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patina is good
quality went down faster then blockbuster stock
no i don't wanna buy ddr5
so fucking expensive
the clothes and shoes I wear must be in top physical condition all the time I will accept no less
diskpart
michigan clothing brand known for being durable and mostly worn by people in the trades
well until recently
googled it and looks like something a 50 year old dad would wear
won’t lie the mpower doohickey is peak
which one
having the post code right where i can read it 
idk first image on google
These where kinda neat
the fan bug is back
yeah fair enough
p12 pros at 100% signal is disgusting
Now I see it on baristas
I've got one of these
23c on the cpu at least
bro why the fuck is this computer so fucking loud i hate this fucking ventus 3060
apparently these are incredible and I want to try them
fuck this im undervolting
Bro has ventus 3060, laugh at him
buy my 4070
it's cool and hip as the kids would say
so i can buy an 8700g
I have the gaming x version of the 3060 and its super quiet
Certainly unique worth a try should you findem. Kinda odd for my area, Safeway hadem
ok it's idling at like 60c
Ouch
paste is probably dryer then your moms coffin
Now its sitting and looking pretty under my 3090 fe
My parents are alive
not for long
Bruh
i wonder what it gets to if i download furmark
did the fans kinda like rattle?
ok we over 80c now
I need a way to make the video encoding of youtube lighter
My Imac struggles badly with 144P youtube but can play higher def downloaded content easily
first bit is youtube, second bit is downloaded as an example
Yes
fantastic idea
no it’s from 2006 or earlier
the 2007 imac was a metal chassis
I aint a mac user so i didnt know that but the look fits early 2000s theme 10000%
2006
correct
Older than most of LTTs audience
i hear the fan rubbing against the metal heatsink
I am 1 year older than a 2006 iMac
Reminds me of this
🐒
so i kinda already blew up my i9 a little @merry stirrup
Charge ya phone nerd
I own many computers older than me
I'm too lazy

:D
config of depression and doom
kaboom
i kinda kaboomed it a bit already
🥱
1.45v sa shaved some life off
Why you yawning? Are you tired?
lame coolers and fans
weren't you buying a motherboard earlier
-1% battery ☺️
Be Quiet is... Lame?
are you just replacing the entire pc at this point
🥱
PC of theseus
silent wings 3 is kinda a broke move
Thats it, im ulting ur balls
Nah I'm just adding a cooler
Since it doesn't have a rear one and the fans on the 207 is annoying
and these were unc when i got them
A real one buys the G2 in chromax
ong
if it fit in my case i would have one
I've got a normal G2 just sitting around doing nothing atm
ill give you 5 bucks
very very tempting
i think I'll decline for now, but I'll let know if I ever need some money
another g5
maybe for Saint patricks day
honestly i haven’t been using my tcl as much so i don’t regret not buying the oled
yeah i've been busy so the G5 has been dormant
i still use it but when i was watching dexter i’d use it like 3-4 hours a day
now i have basically like 5 hours a week max
MSI what the fuck bro
bro if I get the Halloween lucky instead of the Christmas one idgaf
lmfao they packed a turkey in yours and had recall it
yeah dude idgaf deadass
wasn’t it supposed to come like tomorrow
stuffing the turkey
Goddamn
to be honest mines cute but the quality is dogshit
what if they gave you the wrong mobo
i wouldn’t pay anything for it
now we're talking
and they want $20 for it alone
If they give me the wrong one I’m keeping it based off that email
i'd punt that fucker into the stratosphere
Cause shits shipped already
i own 4 msi motherboard
soon to be 5
Look bro they really are focused more on the Free Dragon Plushie they're sending instead of the warranty you don't get it
i mean punt the dragon not the mobo
Their branding IS their concern
can they do anything if they sent you the wrong mobo and then sent you the right one
I'm going to own another Msi mobo
mac if you open the box and see a b850 mlg edition what do you do
other than ask nicely
The PC of Theseus is coming along well
The PC of Theseus
the all mighty chancla destroyed your pc
Was it involved in a car accident cuz tf
give me fall back, i don’t want winter
what state?
NC
oh damn
it’s so icy
how do people drive in the snow there
if yall don’t hear from me it’s cause i’m in a ditch
I can't imagine very well
my tires are bald as fuck
it'll be a smooth ride into that ditch at least
indeed
at least hit a sick drift
what kind of offering do i give to save me from the ditch goblin
your GPU
This happened a long time ago
@merry stirrup what is pcie express counter errors
I am hoping that someone could take pity on us mere mortals and help us in understanding PCI Error counters, specifically what is potentially problematic and what is normal, I have two gaming PC's in the house, one is mine and the other is my grandson's, both have AMD cpu's (5700X3d and 9800X3d)...
real
Oh my god there’s probably people here that don’t know what this is from

i don't
garbage
eh you might be boomer’d out of this one
i remember the video but not the name of it
knowing that video probably separates early Gen Z from late Gen Z
grandfathered out one could say
Yes
unless its a vine
y'all were too young
nostalgic vine complilations are the greatest thing on youtube

I remember those too
shh no you don't
im at 8000 instead of 8200 in 3dmark
i think we take this as an W?
huh
btw pc so unstable it took like 8 tries to get discord open
app kept crashing from bad ram
careful with that ram bro you could afford a house with it
I hate that I know what happens to the remote
I want to say his wow subscription got canceled, feels right
yeah
I wonder at what point a fan is really needed for me, since I’ve got higher ambient temps
im in nc too wtf
Lmao wtf is this meme
Lmao
No this was early YouTube
I need to plug in ethernet now
Gimme that
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/researcher-finds-undocumented-microphone-and-major-security-flaws-in-sipeed-nanokvm NanoKVMs shipped with microphones, I never would have seen this coming (I saw this coming)
This is a TV btw so it looks like shit
I saw a youtuber who liked these
I think it was hardware haven?
lot of people were on the hype train of them
i want a kvm switch ngl
gotta plan for when i get another pc
well, another platform
Is b450 too old for the r5 5600? Im thinking whether to get a b550 or a b450
Its a bad tv
bad is an understatement
Only display in my living room
It isn’t too old
Tho you may need a bios upgrade to support it, whichll require a 3000 series cpu
If you can just get a b550, get that lol
don't buy am4 in 2025
Eh
I think it has its uses.
I have an r5 5600 and I’m pretty content with it so 🙏
wouldn’t mind going am5
But I wouldn’t call am4 entirely obsolete either lol
having something now doesn’t mean it’s worth buying again
Making a secondary pc for my 1660super and it says here the r5 5600 is a good fit for it.
Do you guys have any 650w psu recommendations?
why the hell are you wasting money on a system to build around a 1660 super 😭
Its a secondary pc ok its for my parents house
you’re so right
lipstick on a pig
Let’s play my fav game
Amateur who knows nothing tries to not blow up their pc
it’s really not a bad cpu 💔
You’ve got a 245k?

I don’t get hate on most pc parts tbf
For the right user and right price, most parts can be justified imo (with some exceptions)

am4 is a dead 5 year old platform we are not unironically defending buying into it in the big 25
I hold my point 
Right price/right user, most parts are justifiable
Used parts sourced? Guys balling
It’s not just blanket
It’s really case by case 
uh huh
yeah man lemme get scammed on ebay ddr4 and have 0 chance of reusing any of it
am4 is a decade old next year 🔥
hell yeah
People buy worse laptops for double the cost of what this guy wants to build
that is not great justification here
people buy cheap european cars that blow up in a month
Ya can’t complain about what he’s going to be using if it’s better than the majority of what home users have
Dismissing it makes ya look like a snob
I mean, thats not wrong either. Lol.
i would rather be a snob then recommend people buy stuff that is well past being worth it
ddr4 is not much cheaper than ddr5
you are just shafting yourself
100$ makes a difference at any reasonable budget
Hii aria 🫶
Hilo
And lacking an overall perspective ngl….
You get a good second hand deal, I’d take that happily
Not everything has to be bought new
😭
Tbh im kinda considering an lga 1700 build
Probably a 13th or 14th gen 600k
you can get an arrow lake bundle for pretty cheap, just wait on those to come back
I’m almost considering a 5800x3d
But
Pricy.
I think it’s just worth me saving for an am5 upgrade lol
newegg had board + cpu combos for like $350
Im going itx so cant take advantage of that
new build with a 5800x3d?!
No…
Upgrading my current rig lol
Surprisingly not that bad nowadays
again I don’t think 5800x3d is a smart move for me
Cos I’ll still be stuck on am4
I’m better going am5
But that doesn’t suit everyone obviously
how much radioactive material do yall reckon i can have near my pc before i start having problems?!
id imagine a gpu upgrade would make more sense if anything, i mean unless you rocking like a 1600 or something
I have a 5600 with a 4060ti 8gb rn.
oh damn
yea i would just uh not do anything until ai pops
im rocking a 3600 and 5600xt right now lmao, i was guessing youd be in a similar place
ouchie
a gpu to get a noticeable difference in comparison to the 4060ti at 1440p is probably gonna be pricy lmao
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RTXcdb
Isnt a lot more than an atx sinilarly
But
Eh
Other priorities for now
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Cooler Master MasterBox NR200 Mini ITX Desktop
Haha
Slightly above :3
its not too bad, certainly showing its age however
Ddr5 is quite expensive and hard to get for me rn lmao 😭
I used to have a 2060 as well
im getting a 3900x for like $20 in a few weeks which will give me a bit more headroom in solidworks
20 bucks aint bad
i really dont know what expect performance wise, its not really faster, just more cores, but good enough deal that i imagine its an upgrade for cheap
at 20 bucks even if all it does is buff task manager why not
that's like the cost of a fortnite bundle or some other in game junk
Rip pc
Crashed at 4.6ghz
How would you recommend doing it :>
Static I have a rough idea
PBO, I got no clue what all those buttons mean
i haven't had am4 in like 5 years but this looks right https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/qik4t3/zen_3_pbo_and_curve_optimizer/
Tbh a 5600 and 1660 would more than do me for a second pc
My main game runs on a potato
It probably doesn’t even use half of 1 7800x3d core to run at peak
my 2nd pc rn is a 12900ks/4070
My second pc is some 13th gen work laptop

PBO is doing pbo things I think
Boosting precisely?
Man. Dead Intel platform 💀
My best static oc (with no effort) was 4.55
Score to beat is 11307mc
i paid $0 for the board it's on
Doesn’t matter
lmaooo
i mean i have a 7800x3d/x870 board in my closet too
playing with the ewaste bin is better than being stuck with it
me too ❤️
It’s actually pretty nice…..
It performs better in mc than my main rig 🥺
besides whatever thinkpad i have under my bed, and my i7 3770/GTX 950 system that a friend has atm
ive had no issues with it for my school work
I have an AMD phenom 1090t with a uh.. I think it’s a gtx 770
works great on wired power too
I was gonna make it into a crappy mc rig and osrs rig 2 years ago. Then I couldn’t be bothered and it’s gathering dust and moisture in the shed
Been in storage for about 11 years now, maybe 12
i don't think that hardware is worth the energy cost to run it for those tasks
I have a gtx 960, and gtx 970 lying around
I gave my sister an i3 8100 and a gtx 1650 super optiplex for her bday 🙏
It would get osrs at 60fps. However i really couldn’t be f’d with the damaged motherboard
so would a smartphone
Power surge in it when I was running as a second rig damaged usb and cmos
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWQj3y this guy certianly is not worth running besides when my friend wanted to place MC like 5 years ago
Part List - Intel Core i7-3770, GeForce GTX 950, Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower
i have an fx platform lying around here somewhere that survived a pcie card being installed into a pci slot
I just realized
all those old PCs I considered totaled
have like over 100gb in ddr3 memory kekw
It’s still worthless
i mean its ddr3
I hate this 9800x3d and idk if this assrock board is also at fault so i also hate it 
my 3770 runs at a blazing 4.2 ghz lol, its lovely
I think the 12gb ddr2 is worth around £5 in my old rig
i think you just have the turd bin
godbin but wrong side
if i can get a board which supports like 20 sticks it'll be nice
Will swap for 7800x3d. Deal? 
@turbid locust i've been using this mpower for 1 day and im already back to voltage hell
this platfrom is crap man
z790 mpower?
yeah
good to know
idk man, i got some servers with 128 and 256 gb of ddr3 and they are anything but nice 💀
trying to get 7200 on the alder lake is a war
my next upgrade’s basically just a case upgrade, and getting more RAM+SSD
I mean if it’s taking up space I’m always happy to help
ram+ssd is just preparations
An Intel platform is crap? 
I won't really have a heavy use case lol just a NAS and maybe if I wanna do VMs or smth
Lmfao I love that
3x 65” C2s
for ram yeah
That is nuts lmao
i'd take lga 1700 over am4 as a daily any day of the week if i had to
but for tuning this platform is shit
I mean. I guess spending $1000 on parts to use Intel over AM4 for its life time seems like a great value proposition
LOL
i don't get the point here
am i supposed to have bought the 3 generations of chips that lost to haswell-e in a row and claimed to have "saved" money?
And with DDR5 going sky high I can see why people want to keep spending money on dead intel platforms every 2 to 3 years
but between raptor and zen 3 in 2025 i'm taking raptor
granted i'd take neither but if i had to
I’d also do the same tbh, raptor over zen 3
Unless we’re talking X3D and only gaming for Z3
People get all bogged down on the numbers and %s that don’t impact the overall experience
I guess that’s why those who bought AMD during bulldozer really are the true heroes
Without them - AMD wouldn’t be here right now
the experience of keeping your one haswell-e chip for years and keeping up with amd's offerings for the entirety of a new socket

I can tell ya now. When I saw bulldozer. I bought my first and only Intel CPU 
Was no way I was buying that loaded shite
U guys got any recommendations for a cooler for the 5600x
Anything with a metal heatsink and a fan
im pretty sure a thick enough slice of ham could cool that chip
Find a bit of copper from zalman in the 00s and glue it on. Good to go
the cheapest peerless assassin variant if you need a brand name
a pot of water
Mini 90?
you can cook urself some noodles while ur at it
Can low profile fans work?
yes
What’s a low profile fan these days? Slim?
i'd assume 92mm
checks out
Im treating it like my 9800x3d lol im too paranoid with cpu temps
you dont need to be
i got 7200 working, trying to force it into 7600 now
More blades than Wolverine
9800x3d can also be cooled by axp90-47 assuming ur just gaming
1.37v tx save me
and in the case of shaders just undervolt that thing or smth
One of those big desk fans work well too
I literally don’t change tx on z890 lmao
Big desk fan + any block of metal
i had it too high
Don’t forget zip ties
i fried a bit of the chip but it hasn't seemed to matter yet
not like it matters this chip is just for fun
z890 Apex defaults to 1.1v and it just works
still overkill
In all seriousness kyoko is right. Should get peerless assassin 120 or Thermalright spirit- any spirit kind does
Cheap and easy
the cheapest thermalright with 2 stacks and you're done
Ok so I have the: r5 5600x, msi mpg b550 gaming plus, 2x 8gb gskill trident z, and a msi mag a750gl gold psu and a wd green sn3000. I feel like some of these are overkill
Mini 120 is only like a couple bucks off 120 so just get 120
you can probably cheap out on the board and psu
just get the cheapest thermalright cooler bruh the 5600x will still be chilling
i've got an odd question. i currently use a DisplayPort for my primary monitor (4k 240hz) and an HDMI for my second monitor (4k 60hz)..
I purchased a new DisplayPort cable to use with the 2nd monitor and replaced the HDMI. However, when I connected it and began using my computer, i noticed something strange.
My primary monitor would only go to 240hz while on 1440p, and if it was on 4k it would only go to 60hz. When I changed the cables back to what they were before, my primary monitor allowed the use of 4k 240hz again...
what happened? I have a 9800x3d and a 4090.
Everyone told me 240mm aio’s aren’t much better than decent air coolers
which game? it highly depends tbh
I changed my air cooler for 240mm aio. 6 to 8c lower temps 
That psu is b tier. I was looking at the tier list while looking for cheap psus
that tells me almost nothing
the displayport cable you bought sucks shit because it doesnt support 4k240
you could get an a550bn for like $60 and it'd work fine
Legit?
Check version of new cable
a 5600x and a 1660 super are not power heavy components
ik someone who built themselves a PC with a 4790k and a 2080ti bruh
you're effectively building a gaming laptop
Im just after psus that have nice longevity and good tiers. But sure ill take that into consideration
47xx series goated
I should have held onto my 4770k rather than got a 1700x tbh
However damn the multi core upgrade was unreal
Idk tho about its 80+ bronze
Bronze is fine
And it looks a little too cheap
Remember in the olympics it’s gold, silver, bronze. 2nd loser isn’t so bad
brother you are building a box of scrap
there is 0 point in buying some overkill unit for it
we are not protecting a 5090 here
Fair enough
Nothing can protect a 5090 
my 9mm can
not a 45 hater but if you need bigger than 9mm you just suck
yes i use my 5090 to watch youtube and play valorant for the past week
2 world wars
most of all I used it to study on word documents
I’d deffo use it for crypto mining
Nothing says $$$ like shunt mod crypto 5090
crypto mining would pretty much earn negative money
it's the cable that came with the monitor. i'm currently running 4k at 240hz with it?
i guess i dont understand. i bought an asus pg32ucdp and it's the asus branded cable that came with it
wouldn't you underclock and undervolt
performative matcha
lmao whut
racist
💀
I plead nuh uh
it was part of a voucher set
fair enough
and i was like: I dont wanna drink coffee since i wanna sleep later
you do know matcha has a similar amount if not more caffeine than coffee?!
varies pretty wildly, 38-177mg of caffeine in one cup of matcha usually
no i dont
1 cup of coffee is usually 95mg of caffeine
whatever man im already outside
lol
I love slamming down like 3 coffees in the morning
also I thought the amount of caffeine was like half of that
Ehh I forget it depends on roast
Bean type
Barista
Sigh
alot of factors lol
water temp, water ratio, extraction time, pressure, grind size, bean
probably others as well
Hey guys, so this is my pc case atm, and I’m wondering should I get some more intake fans to go at the top, as this is how my air goes into my pc.
Don’t ask about the cable management- yes I need to fix it - and I know I need to dust it a bit.
3 intake 1 out is okay, if your temps are not sky high then don't change anything
My temps don’t get too high but do put about 80 on the cpu sometimes
Even though I got dual cpu fan.
80 is fine
what cpu lol
Hi do y'all think my CPU will bottleneck? I got a 9070xt with a 5 7600X3D
youre fine bro its a 7600x3d
........no
not at all
Ryzen 9 5950x
sounds like a pretty normal temp then lmao
Fair enough
So don’t worry much about getting the extra fans? However was still thinking about it maybe just for a cooler system in general
what is a cooler system for
youre not wrong. more fans is more cool, but if its not too hot then more cool is useless
thats what we're getting at here
more fans is not going to help your cpu not hit 80 degrees realistically
nor is 80 degrees a problemk
flopa
I might go intel for my next cpu
14600kf looking real yummy ngl
and it'll be a decent bit cheaper overall, cos I can just use the ram i have rn
id consider an 8 core like 13700K/F instead depending on how much $
rn i could probably get 2 14600kfs for the price of a 13700kf
I love australia
damn
for whatever reason
13th gen i7s have like no stock
or if there is, it's stupidly expensive
you are in fact correct
Guys does using external monitor for my gaming laptop make a massive diff in fps?
since my laptop doesn't have the optimus switch thing
depending on if it has a mux switch yes, but you can test yourself lol
it doesn't
then yes you are going to be losiing some amount of performance
😔
instead of the intel one
i meant
I was planning to go 9700x but 14600kf looks better lols
test if you lose fps lol 😭
realistically 9700x prolly gonna be better for you but buying ddr5 sucks
yeahhhh 💔
i want the 8000 one
@topaz veldt istg if you throw my valorant game smh
I need 64GB DDR4 
Cyperpunk Edgerunners mentioned 🫡
holy blursed @turbid locust @pure garnet
good thing they have a skylake stock cooler on standby
apparently thats their 3rd day of doing this for bench
"stock cooler" and then thats the bench image bro id cry laughing at the sub
I have to be getting trolled atp
I should not be able to queue into or against people I cant duo with
just got done with my first game of ranked valorant guys
oh what a coincidence mac just got out of a ranked game too
Meanwhile @low sorrel is the same rank as me queuing into golds
I mean this shit aint even fun no more
i dislike games that do it
I got one game off diamond and i got put into ball crushing factory queue
LOL
My last game vs Jerry's last game. We're the same rank.
tbf he had a rough game but like just look at the ranks
I should not have to fight mfs I cannot duo with
sshe take my money
while im in neeeeed
4 people in that lobby the game straight up would not let me queue a match with
valorant isnt too much fun without teammates its not great
I mean even if you do have a duo it just like
Finds three paraplegics to put on your team so like
sorry I’m obviously a lil salty rn lol
plat vs asc is diabolical
but I went 0-3 tn queuing against people 2-4 ranks higher than me the whole time so
one of those matches I did play like dogshit but like
dude lol
mac arent you playing on a 42”
mhm
jesus
What’s fucked up is I don’t think it’d make a difference if I put the 27” 1440p 240hz on the desk lmao
I have a 27” QHD 360hz and ion play the game enough
Proper playtime I’d probably be plat
as expected, the typical scaremongering vs reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUqyyAs5TE
My original review (titled, "A RISC-V Stick-on"):
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDd6d0Vmy0
- Blog: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/sipeed-nanokvm-risc-v-stick-on
Here's the article everyone's been linking for the past few days: https://telefoncek.si/2025/02/2025-02-10-hidden-microphone-on-nanokvm/
And a few good discu...
nothing further
you could probably go higher
it's just hard to get past plat if you're employed
I’ve got studies, jobs, family and friend sidequests
I at best would only go 1/1 KD in diamond
So I really dont think I could push past plat 2
oh no wonder I had basically zero comms that game
if you really grinded you can reach ascendant
I solo'd into two duos lmfao
but I firmly believe ascendant and above is just unemployment
p much
as of rn Im giving advice to my friend who’s peak diamond, currently P2
I hit diamond 1 a millennia ago but been casually in plat since
I stopped taking the game seriously for a long time
now I kinda do wanna grind again and just.... this lol
if you’ve got a full time job or studying+Part-time alot Plat is really your permanent playground
maybe Diamond if you’re really good getting high MMR
but consistentcy is a problem for us
This one friend I have peak ascendant has hella good deadzoning and tap reaction time
my mechanics have always been worse than my awareness/decision-making but like
Im not a player im the coach 
this act has been my best mechanically by a mile and... still stuck lol
To be fair, we are employed
I was averaging a 30% headshot this act until the last few matches lol
That peak asc friend isnt, but his mechanics are actually hella indicating that its not just playtime
Genuinely if I were to 1v1 him in skirmish I’d get 0-10’d
My best performances say if Im not opping/judging is like… 20%.
Pls lmk if i should make a post in the tech support thing instead
Hi im trying to get a cpu to have lower temps when testing multicore in cinebench r23, its a 9950x3d and ccd0 (vcache one) is reaching max 87 degrees and ccd1 is reaching max 95.4. I have ccd0 offset to -5 and ccd1 offset currently at -12. The cooler is a 420mm aio arctic liquid freezer and the cinebench score is consistently above 44k. Am i doing something wrong
No it is not my pc and yes i have never touched overclocking or undervolting. I had the x3d turbo thing enabled in bios and was confused why only 8 cores were showing up for like 20 minutes
I threw we lost
This is normal and expected
So what your saying is that you're not diamond? And have 1k hours in val like that fade
Nah as soon as it limited my resolution I was out
finals week seems to have impacted the ltt server
It's also 337 am est
also a couple channels i visit are pretty inactive
like battlestations and networking
Ok, thank you. Should i continue undervolting ccd1? Also is there a way to have it throttle earlier than 95°?
lol finally get a plat/diamond lobby and get absolutely railed
running us down like we're shit
game is so good dude
Why would you do that?
realest question ever asked
My Minecraft bedrock updated and I can’t fix the 50% loading stuck bug
Tried every thing I could find on Google had to go to work.
This is gonna do my nut in tonight trying to sort
Idk i started asking chatgpt how to navigate this bios and get back the 8 cores and i ended up trying to undervolt it and i should have been asleep almost 2 hours ago
what do you mean get back the 8 cores
Gigabyte has something like "x3d turbo" in the bios and turns out that enabling it just means itll only use the ccd with the v cache and thats why the cinebench score was so much worse than what i was seeing online
right
Idk it started yapping about undervolting to keep it cooler and i was like you know what yeah sounds fun but turns out it does not keep it cooler
Don't use that mode
Yeah i realized lol
So when you talk undervolting there are two real topics - volts/boost, and heat
by default if you undervolt you are telling (asking) the CPU to run its PBO/boost algortihm with less voltage
So it does reduce heat because maybe you are saying "instead of default 1.3v to do X frequency, try 1.275v"
So yes it does keep heat down but not how you expect
It keeps heat down and so the CPU ends up boosting more/higher
you have a 420mm AIO why are you worried about heat?
Just installed it ive only ever used air and between the cinebench score and the llm sounding the alarm about 95 degrees because it was insisting 89 is the limit for anything with x3d in the name - i was yeah haha
The TJMax is 95C for 9950X3D
It will literally boost until it hits 95C
by default, with ordinary cooling, the CPU will boost up and keep going until it hits 95C
The only way to keep it from hitting 95C is with really, really good cooling
OR, limiting it with a PBO temp mode
If you go into your BIOS and enable PBO you should see something like PBO Level 1 90C, Level 2 85C, etc.
Yeah i have the pbo limit set to motherboard rn but honestly seems like theres no reason to try and prevent it from going to tjmax
thats different
The PBO Limits Mobo is just power limits
but yes, there is really no reason to try and limit the temps unless you were in a SFF PC or something
What is your R23 score?
It was at 45198 on the most recent run
Yep, that's ideal
Do nothing from here
What did you see PBO curve optimizer to
(That's the like -20, -15, etc.)
-5 ccd0 -15 ccd1
Is there any reason you did CO differnt on CCDs?
Any reason i did anything tonight after seeing if the cooler was working was because chatgpt told me to
Also because i checked and undervolting cant cook it
Are you giving me permission to do -15 ccd0 because the ai was like nah dont do that every time i asked
No
What?
set it to -20 all core
Pog
The AI

If you have left PBO Boost Frequency Override to 0 or default, try -20 to -30 and see what's stable
You can actually override the maximum PBO boost, then you will start to have to dial back CO
Woahh its peaking 2° colder both ccds
should also hit the same or better R23 score
Should i be tracking the frequencies now that the temperatures peaked lower?
what do you mean - seeing how they improve?
I wouldn't bother j ust go by benchmark scores
45802 at the end of the 10 min test
Now i guess i do minus another 5 and try it again?
R23 is not the best test for stability
If it runs its likely stable enough
but you should try OCCT for stability
The "problem" with PBO/CO undervolting is that you actually have stability issues at idle ,not load
so its when the CPU transitions from doing work to chilling out, the volts drop too much and the system crashes
So fixed all-core workload is usually fine, its light single core/transient workload that suffers
So like right after i run occt it might crash?
Yep
so.. imho, for r ight now... push negative core offset until its unstable
so maybe set it to like -30 all core, run R23, if it passes, go -35 etc
go to where it breaks, then dial it back
but you can go nuts and do per-core CO
but you will need core cycler to test cores individually
word
Thank you so much for all your help @topaz veldt !
no problem
i just witnessed this while playing ac evo lmfao
witnessed what
u helpin polo
oh
every now and then I'll have a bunch of shit open, like a lazy amount of crap, outlook, adobe stuff, chrome, blah blah, fire up a game, alt+tab leave shit open, etc., and the system is a little ... hitchy. I am so not used to 8 cores lol.
true, ive felt the limit of those 8 cores before
probably not as intense as yours but still
why do the FPS I enjoy the most just have the most doom and despair as systems
I’m really debating getting rid of this 9800x3d for the 9950x3d
I dont feel its worth the money and effort just to reroll the same chip’s IMC
it’s not like they bin em
depends on the system - 9950X3D needs more cooling
Im considering a whole CPU and Mobo overhaul since Im changing case anyway
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, GeForce RTX 5090
this is the lil rig I am on right now
I have that urge to build a loop but I remember how that shit went last time
shits like basically impossible without a watercooling oriented case
yeah you really need a case thats meant for it
like where the actual fuck do people mount pumps and shit
blocks are expensive asf tho and nobody is buying that shit used
I have a HK 1851 block unused
exactly lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CKVNfd This is what im planning rn
Part List - Intel Core Ultra 7 265K
yeah naw dude
but like the appeal of a watercooled system tho
If I didn’t fuck with my system so much I’d probably do it
maintenance sounds miserable for anyone that touches their system more than twice a year
I change platforms like I change clothes
Speaking of which, I havent bought clothes in like, 1.5 years
my fashion sense so shit
like I’d want quick disconnects and shit
watercooling gets expensive fast
oof
Were saying "Fixed by 930AM 12/9"
so I was planning on going to the office
Around 9PM she lit back up, whew
oh 5nail did you see my email from MSI
I did not
lol daffuq
I’m like almost willing to bet it’s the wrong plushie or some shit lmao
Honestly, dont know what motherboard I'd wanna go for to replace the asrock https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nnBKyW
Part List - AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, GeForce RTX 5090, HAVN HS420 VGPU ATX Mid Tower
I thought I was gonna get it anyway cause it already said arriving by Thursday but it hasn’t moved in 3 days so doubt it
yeah the prob got it before it went too far
Would’ve been cool to accidentally get 2 lol
ugh is the 5090 Master back to $3349?!
dude every 5090 is up
hilarious
cheapest is like $2700 rn
5090s are OOS here man
yeah it was short pickens here
Zotac solids went back up a whole $600 here
I got my 5090 Master (latest) for like $2650
I bought a 5090 at the correct time
TUFs are 3K again
ya
5090s fr being our best purchases before this all went down
I’m expecting 6090 to be unobtainium for like a year
we are back to building a PC being a focused sniping hobby
tragic
when I got into PCs, many moons ago, my mom could like go to the store and pick a part up
Would line up since the whole RAM thing’s expected to last till 2028, prob settling around 2029 and thats assuming the situation doesnt worsen
I’m just saying because of the recent rumor that Nvidia won’t be including VRAM on the PCBs going to their board partners anymore lol
you could just go to any old store and get your shitty Pentium 2
Im lazy to fold my sim, Im just gonna YT with it still out
Regardless of the state of DRAM rn
Micro Center sold all their stupid AIOs and are now down to ONLY Astrals lol. I remember when you couldn't get teh Astral
wtf is AI BOX
lmfao
Looking at the astral now, I really think the 4th fan looks so funky
its weird, and noisy
but when I was hunting in Feb/March the Astral was the desired model and it was unpossible. Now its all that is in stock lol
Astrals here were going for $4.2k new
Now its all OOS
Only 5090 model I can see on this website is the 5090 Zotac AIO and the Astral BTF which is OOs
OOF
Cheapest 5090 here is between the Zotac solid and MSI gaming trio, 3.6k
man oh man
GGs 
Mine was slightly higher, pre-taxxed
I bought it for the SFF build and it didn't fit
so its been in box for a couple weeks
My Alphacool block for it supposed to come tomorrow
Im extremely tempted to get a 5070Ti prime for my SFF- And yet Im lowkey unwilling to
Theres no 5090 I can fit in here, except for the ventus
Even then its quite the tight fit
which case?
i cant even find a ventus rn
I still dont get why 5090 TUFs here always went for near astral pricing
yeah me either
same here - 5090 TUF OC here is $2999
I camped out at MC and paid like $2850 in March
tough, my only choice is indeed 5070Ti prime, I wouldnt want to go the 5080 route
When I went the 5090 route it lasted less than a month 
There's also ways around it
i wasn't that interested in the game generally so i was just like "meh done"
Fair
Worst part is I cant even fit the 9070XT into the T1
Yeah I have a custom powder coated white Fractal Terra sitting here
because it can't really fit any good GPUs
Im between revamping my current build or doing a ARL ITX and just slapping my B580 inside
bleh
What’re your thoughts
B580 is so underwhelming
exactly why Im against the ARL part
Would it fit an FE 5090?
I think it would but I don't count them
Trying to get hold of one be hard as nails too
That,and they have a rash of issues
I like the design. The ventilation on the shroud is great. Just needed a bigger heatsink and yeah, that multi pcb is ass
Has anyone waterblocked an FE?
yes, with EK blocks
Look forward to see the damage on that PCIe pcb in a year or 2 then
I’d wanna add gpu supports in for that pcb
High probability of coil whine and quite loud- though impressive they did that cooling with 2 slots
also the angled connector I’ve head have caused some incompatibility with some 12vhpwr cables
holy x3d glaze
I mean
It's a solid piece of tech tbf
but
sometimes the shit that sellers say about pc parts omfg... just goes on and on and on
If they make gpus x3d then they’re onto a marketing winner
as a professional idiot I have calculated that this is indeed my best option for my revamp
Are shotguns even worth using
WHAT is with the obsession and the b850m power
I swear im seeing it everywhere lmao
mATX is popular right now, and the MPower is a cheap board that’s good at memory overclocking
i caved btw
am buying 1 from china and getting 9950x3d
into hs420 they go
its like 3-4 people hyper obsessed with RAM tuning in this channel, thats about it
ahh yep that makes sense now.
sometimes i forget
tc2 moment
the three tech servers that i’m active in have people interested in it
the other two servers being normie servers
i was just explaining to some uncs yesterday that EPS is rated to safely handle 384W
they were sketched out by the 2xEPS to 1x12v-2x6 cable that came with their PSU
reposting this triple 65" C2 setup because its hilarious
genious solution for the HUD elements being so far out of your FoV
just capture them with OBS and blow them up on another screen lmao
looks extremely uncomfortable
(some games have ultrawide HUD adjustability)
Large monitors makes you suck at fps games
see I think that looks supremely comfortable
Theres a reason why most, if not all progamers play with relatively normal\small sized monitors, with some of em even using windowed mode
if you don’t adjust viewing distance sure
Yeah, ofc
if they’re the same refresh rate and you can adjust viewing distance then it’s fine
but that setup looks extraordinarily uncomfortable
thats correct, but at the same time for "fun" casual gaming, you can still top leaderboard in a game like battlefield with ease. been doing it since BFBC2 and thats all that matters
people who suck, suck. the display ain't fixing that
I remember bumping up the size of my monitor when I was somewhat active in the cs scene back in the days, and I just instantly started playing worse. Took absolutely ages to get used to playing with it, and I ended up going back to the size I was used to because I kept missing visual cues
For casual its fine 
luckily not all "FPS" games are competitive twitch shooters
Right now I'm on 2x 55" TVs as I dont chase the fps ranks anymore
Dont have that redbull reflex aim anymore
Speaking of ram btw
Looks like AMD is enabling tRFC2 and tRFCsb in the new agesa
Small but measurable gains apparently, havent looked much into it
Im rn between the evolv x2 or the hs420 ngl
its gorgeous
you doing custom loop?
HS420 is gigantic and will be mostly empty if you’re not
Evolv X2 in white looks pretty nice and it’s meant for an AIO build
im lowk down to get a evolv x2 bcs it has less width
Not true
It's me that makes me suck at fps games, actually
same
Thats why I play on a diffferent level
Everyone is trying for KDR, I am trying for weird or exhausting KDR
Say what you want about EK, but even they managed to put out more blocks without quality issues than TG 😐
bada-ba-ba-baaaa, I've woken up
Why tf are they taking orders for a product that doesn't have production finalised
That hurts my neckmeat just looking at it
Neckmeat
but I love it
I think I'd be alright at it considering I use trackIR and that involves swinging the head around
yeah
I don't have the real estate to roll a 3x1 display setup these days
I could but damn would that take up most of my cave
I've thought about going back up to 3 displays
because if I have a game open, and jellyfin fulllscreened, how will I read discord chat?
Not everyone is as cavernous as you, navy
lol
I have a desk

my office is packed with gear already
I have a shared multi office living room
if anything the tertiary would be 1080p 24"
That is also a film development lab
You have an interesting house
Anyways our forecast was downgraded from 1.3 inches of rain today to 0.9 inches
First floor is kitchen and garage, second floor is bedrooms, 3rd floor is a giant open space
Actually 3rd floor has about a third sectioned off as another bedroom, but we use it for storage and my GFs office since she works from home
The rest of the 3rd floor is living room plus desks for my roommate and myself plus space for all the hobbies
The 3rd floor bathroom is full of film chemicals
I just got 3 telegram bots messaging me within the span of a minute asking "What's your mood like?"
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I don't wanna be popular 😭
I wish robots loved me
I'm glad they don't
Although I'm always nice to my Google speakers in case they rise up against humanity
Must be kind to our future robot overlords
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home theater being a tv and couch lol it is not impressive
Damn Mark, not even a universal remote? Shame
well there's an apple tv remote if that helps
the point of triple screen gaming is filling in peripheal vision, you don't really turn your head and look at the side displays directly.
and an xbox I haven't turned on in a long ass time
It has great HDMI CEC implementation
it does. they annoy me because it loses audio connection from time to time
mostly in video apps like netflix and whatnot. damn drm
We use the PS5 for Plex and blu ray
Well just Blu-ray now
Apple tv will become the new Plex device
Uhhh LG Plex app and PS5 Plex app were both flawed in different ways
LG app is laggy and unusable
Dialogue was unintelligible with the PS5 app
Plex is flawed overall but it works. Shit drives me insane with the "we are completely based off from open source, community build code. Also here are a bunch of paid services and none of our community members will ever see a dime"
I use my plex server to horde random, niche TV shows that no one cares about
@merry stirrup how do you have nothing on your steam wishlist wtf
Plex is not perfect by any means, but their software is still better than jellyfin imo
i use mine as a “will purchase” list
Yes, it's really "save for later"
jellyfin could be better... they all have issues.
@edgy laurel unhide your wishlist >:C
I'd rather that crappletv have a USB port I can attach a storage device to
🙂
Wtfffffff
im pretty sure on mine it’s just power and hdmi
yeah 🙁
they did during the first gen ones
they used to have a lightning port for debug
LOL
Yeah I guess controllers would just connect via Bluetooth
