tech-chat-2

[shell void]

but threadripper is unlocked too

you can get a 9970X to perform like a 9700X in games if you disable all but one CCD, or use manual thread scheduling

that’s a pain in the ass though i’d rather just have an intel cpu with one big tile

[topaz veldt]

I know its unlocked, I am referring to the profiles that Intel provides

[frank zealot]

who gives a fuck about unlocked HEDT chips?
They're so dense that unlocking them does less there than it does on a 9950X / 285K

[shell void]

not true at all

there are huge multithreading gains if you don’t mind running a 750W cpu xd

[topaz veldt]

If HEDT wants to sell it needs to be more flexible

Give preset profiles, hell even 2

[edgy laurel]

again I think there are options if not this, like this in Ryzen Master

[shell void]

also it’s looking like xeon 6 hedt is only boosting up to 4.8 ootb so you stand to gain a decent amount of gaming performance with tuning

[split spruce]

Yall what webcam should I get for my mac? (Preferably silver to match my mac)

[frank zealot]

just buy apple's camera

(i'm assuming apple has one)

[edgy laurel]

iSight still at thing? lol

they used to

[shell void]

that looks sweet

[edgy laurel]

og iSight

[shell void]

i think most mac dudes just use the built in webcam on the imac/studio display, or go straight to a real camera

[edgy laurel]

it was $150, Firewire only and from 2003

[shell void]

that looks really clean for such an old webcam

[topaz veldt]

Not on TR

[split spruce]

I wanted to buy this but they killed firewire support with Tahoe

[edgy laurel]

you probably wouldn't want this today. its 640x480

[topaz veldt]

Right but I am saying I don't think HEDT users, for the most part, are going to tune. They're prob creative or code monkeys. Give him a 8c or 16c mode that boosts like a gaming CPU.

[shell void]

no doubt

[split spruce]

I don't care about the quality 😂 I just need a facecam that works 😭

[frank zealot]

this is silver and apparently good?
https://www.amazon.com/LUMINA-4K-Webcam-Studio-Quality-Compatible/dp/B09T74FDVJ/

[shell void]

just buy a five dollar cam off alibaba or some shit then

[edgy laurel]

there are plenty available, with no shortage of roundups and reviews of the best

[topaz veldt]

Meanwhile finding intros and credits on 50TB of media takes a while

[split spruce]

I don't know if I want to spend 1/4 of my computer price on a webcam 😭

[frank zealot]

then suck it up and just buy a logitech webcam or whatever

quit getting hung up on aesthetics

[shell void]

insta360 link2 is on sale for $150 rn if you want something that actually looks good

[split spruce]

I don't want black, I really don't.

It sticks out like a sore thumb.

[topaz veldt]

Your webcam needs to be silver?

[frank zealot]

fuckin' mac users

[topaz veldt]

mac user never heard of spray paint

[split spruce]

I use both mac and windows 🤷‍♂️

I just like stuff matching.

I bought all the Microsoft Official accessories when they produced them too (Headphones, Keyboard, Mouse, Webcam, Numpad) for my Windows Machine

I like stuff matching.

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/slander-meme-memes-funny-whiteboard-gif-22147047

[topaz veldt]

that is so sad

[frank zealot]

what's your opinion on trains?

[split spruce]

Boring.

[topaz veldt]

I only ride on trains if all the cars match

[edgy laurel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/obs/comments/1nv7apw/best_webcams_for_streaming_in_2025_budget_quality/

[topaz veldt]

My wife and I use Insta360 Link 2 4K

its cool because it follows me as I pace around

[split spruce]

Issue arrises that none of these seem to be silver

[topaz veldt]

I think we found KoolChilds brother

[split spruce]

who?

[edgy laurel]

someone hyper focused on meaningless details

If there isn't one thats silver, we can't conjure one up for you.

[split spruce]

Right here's my current mac setup. As you can see everything matches.

[topaz veldt]

Unpopular take: people prob don't want to video conference with someone who will only use a camera if its silver

[topaz veldt]

LOL bro

[split spruce]

And my next monitor fufills the same philosophy.

[topaz veldt]

that setup... and he's worried about matching

[edgy laurel]

Bro's desk is a tv dinner tray and he's worried about his webcam matching

[topaz veldt]

righ!?

[split spruce]

The desk is improving soon I promise 🙏

I already found one, just gotta wait until it ships

[topaz veldt]

I hope it has room for a 22" lenovo monitor

https://tenor.com/view/leatylrs-friends-gif-24721475

[split spruce]

Yes. It's going to be a 31x17 desk. it has enough room for two lenovo monitors

[topaz veldt]

17

[edgy laurel]

kinda silver, and one of the best available https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BFJ4CRKD

[split spruce]

This is the one thing I wish I could change but theres this dresser that I can't get rid of so I have to build around it

[split spruce]

1/3 of my Computer price 😭

[topaz veldt]

Surprised this one didn't make that dudes list Guilty

[edgy laurel]

i dunno man, if you just want cheap and silver there is no shortage https://www.amazon.com/CYLO-720P-PRO-Webcam-Silver/dp/B09GHMDFWY

whole $16

he's moved to TC1 to ask about desk sizes

for some reason

[split spruce]

This is awful 😭

[edgy laurel]

too expensive, not silver, ugly.. my dude, just type silver webcam into google and find something you do like

[topaz veldt]

beggars can't be choosers

[split spruce]

Wanted to ask a different question while not interupting this message flow.

[split spruce]

All the search results are just white

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-does-he-want-alexander-cora-the-family-business-what-does-he-need-what-does-he-want-from-me-gif-26262976

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/given-up-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-9650246926252591669

[topaz veldt]

I cannot take this

Its why i went full goofdog on chicken Kordellblue last night

its just.... all of the answers, all of the questions, none of the solutions

[frank zealot]

huh.... looks like Legrand is shutting down CablesToGo.com next month

[topaz veldt]

I had a LeGrand lightswitch in a bathroom

[split spruce]

A silver webcam. not a white webcma

[topaz veldt]

and it made me chuckle as I sat there... LeGrand "the large"

[edgy laurel]

everyone should do this instead of buying cheap tiny garbage from amazon

see that third pic? that steel frame on these is beefy as hell

[wise bear]

fuck did I miss a chewing-out

[glass scroll]

Can i mix these two kinds of ram? And if so is it an issue that they have different voltages

[edgy laurel]

4 dimms, mixed kits. what could go wrong?

Yes, you can mix them. You're almost certainly going to have trouble with anything close to 3200 though

[frank zealot]

on DDR4? A lot less than DDR5

[split spruce]

My entire house is Legrand including the wall outlets and I want to kill whoever thought THIS was a good idea

[wise bear]

Thanks I fucking hate it

[edgy laurel]

Does that first kit even have an XMP profile?

[glass scroll]

I saw somewhere say the other ones will slow down, does that matter?

[edgy laurel]

this looks like some AI abomination

[glass scroll]

Idk what that is lol

[frank zealot]

if you're happy with stock 2666 speeds, it won't be a problem

[edgy laurel]

they will ALL run at the fastest speed of the slowest kit

which in this case is looking like 2666. oof

[frank zealot]

(I'm running mixed 64GB at 2666 in my work PC right now)

[wise bear]

the perf jump from 2666 to 3200 on ddr4 is night & fuckin day lmao

[split spruce]

I wish it was.

It makes wire management such a fucking pain.

I need to find a flat extention cord that will allow me to plug in two and those just don't exist for such a shitty outlet

[edgy laurel]

the correct way to move to 32GB and maintain speed is a 2x16GB kit

[wise bear]

^

Pls listen to the smart man

A2 & B2 pls

[edgy laurel]

just.. pricing is ass

[glass scroll]

👍

[fringe vigil]

well ill find a kit

[edgy laurel]

wait, ddr4 pricing is bad too right? I havne't bothered to look

[wise bear]

yes ddr4 pricing is ass ever since it went OOP

[glass scroll]

I was thinking of buying another 8gb ddr4 3200 one, would that work?

[wise bear]

do NOT run 3 sticks

[glass scroll]

Like 24gb in total

[wise bear]

DO NOT

[glass scroll]

Why not? 😂

[wise bear]

Because the performance will be worse than if you only had 1

[south shuttle]

it’s going to be sooo stable you’ll end up being

-2 braincells

[glass scroll]

So what if i run 4 sticks then? Is that better or worse

[wise bear]

4 sticks is fine

if you don't care about speed and just want 32gb, go 4 sticks.

[south shuttle]

3 sticks tend to be just as stable as 4 sticks

so 3 sticks don’t make much sense

[wise bear]

3 stick is psychotic behavior tbh

[south shuttle]

1 is most stable, 2 is optimal, 4 is if you want more ram

3 is… well it work but you lose stability for +50% ram

[frank zealot]

1 is most stable, 2 is optimal, 4 is if you want more ram and are willing to potentialy figure out headaches

[wise bear]

4 stick ddr4 on intel is literally no issue

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt right now

[glass scroll]

So but another one of these?

[wise bear]

yes

[glass scroll]

Also why is 4 sticks better than 3

[wise bear]

ram is better in twos

[edgy laurel]

hehe, didn't realize they had this Trends page https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

[frank zealot]

youtube: "What is dual channel RAM"

[wise bear]

You're one to talk lmao

[frank zealot]

how many times did you ask what HDMI Cable to buy?

[wise bear]

I think 5

[shell void]

XD

[ripe flicker]

I got r5 3600 and 3060ti

[edgy laurel]

savage

[wise bear]

Can you believe it's already fucking thanksgiving

Where did this year go

[shell void]

a 5070ti could end up being pretty choked by your r5 3600

you need a total system upgrade

unless you could find a 5700X3D for a low price

[frank zealot]

at a minimum Ryzen 5700x, x3d is better obvi

[edgy laurel]

this is fantastic

[karmic folio]

went slow Imo

[wise bear]

How

[shell void]

slinky busses

[edgy laurel]

I think I see 6 busses

total, in the shot

[ripe flicker]

would it be okay if I game on 1440p w r5 3600 and 3060ti?

[wise bear]

3 slinkies, 3 twinkies

[edgy laurel]

yes

[brisk jolt]

type shi

[fringe vigil]

Hiroe hero

[glass scroll]

Also just one more thing sometimes youtube videos buffer when i play big games, is that a ram or gpu/cpu issue?

[wise bear]

that's a "you're doing too much on your poor cpu" problem

[glass scroll]

👍

[steel stream]

hello

[wise bear]

hi akn

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-6000d-spotted-with-19968-cuda-cores-and-84gb-of-memory

[glass scroll]

You reckon lowering the graphics will help or am i cooked?

[karmic folio]

[whole coral]

Jesus today is mild. 53F LOL

Wearing a tanktop and shorts

[south shuttle]

remember that reddit post that said benchmarks aren’t reliable source of leaks?

because the sku name and other things can be tampered with

[glass scroll]

Am i gonna have to play rdr2 without my dopamine on the side??

[fringe vigil]

im afraid

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-afraid-arthur-morgan-red-dead-redemption-2-arthur-morgan-i'm-afraid-popsdops-gif-850640573973312845

[glass scroll]

😭😭😭😭🤒

[steel stream]

deyyyutttchhh

[south shuttle]

i’d stick to leakers that have >90% good track record of providing leaks that are truthful

[fringe vigil]

if no one here has experienced this game like guilty for example i feel sorry for you

[south shuttle]

and take them with a grain of salt anyways

[glass scroll]

26 here

[south shuttle]

leaks and rumours are no longer that exciting to me

[steel stream]

the only leaks I trust are Intel ones from jaykin

everything else is meh

[karmic folio]

[steel stream]

We literally had a guy in here fake a 7600X3D geekbench I think

[edgy laurel]

9700x3D i thought it was

[south shuttle]

you tricked mee into saying yes

explode

i don’t recall fake 7600x3d benchmarks to all seriousness

but it could be

[south shuttle]

i honestly forgot what it was

[edgy laurel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1orc6jl/my_friends_and_i_accidentally_faked_the_ryzen_7/

[south shuttle]

i don’t believe until someone reputable has it in hand and ideally shows video proof.

[solemn heron]

Is TPM spyware?

[frank zealot]

is BIOS level security spyware?

[solemn heron]

Thats different

[frank zealot]

no it's not. TPM = Trusted Platform Module

it's bios level security

[solemn heron]

BIOS is on the motherboard and only there. TPM can comunicate

[random flame]

Randomly gets text from dad for a phone suggestion to upgrade to.

It was a Kyocera Duraforce Pro3 he suggested...

[wise bear]

tpm is on the cpu..

[devout ridge]

bios communicates with everything

[wise bear]

tpm is literally a cryptographic module

[solemn heron]

It is infact not

[wise bear]

Yyyyes, it is

[solemn heron]

-_-

[wise bear]

on modern cpus tpm is embedded in the cpu

[random flame]

And somehow I'm still stuck with taking risks on either a Razr or a Phone (3a)

[wise bear]

On older systems tpm was a board accessory

Where the hell are you reading that TPM is malware

[split spruce]

Let me just throw out a guess: Facebook Reels.

[solemn heron]

*Spyware

[random flame]

This. It's a small Cortex M controller they use for TPM on AMD cpus.

[wise bear]

same thing, different subclass.

[devout ridge]

spyware is a type of malware

[solemn heron]

Ik

[wise bear]

Then why did you correct me if I'm not wrong

[solemn heron]

But its generally considered different

[karmic folio]

still didnt answer the question

[wise bear]

Where did you read that TPM is malware.

[karmic folio]

[wise bear]

Like that is royally stupid information

[devout ridge]

10 dollars on chat gpt is my bet

[wise bear]

And the fact that you came to ask us should be an inclination that whatever you read was bullshit lmao

[split spruce]

I'm betting tiktok 💀

[solemn heron]

Well its similar to the intel trusted platform module

[glass scroll]

How do i find out how much ram my cpu can handle?

[wise bear]

And what does TPM stand for..

[devout ridge]

tpm is similar to tpm?

[frank zealot]

come on, double/triple down on the bullshit. keep digging

[solemn heron]

So i cant ask questions?

[devout ridge]

spec page

[frank zealot]

more than you're going to run. so don't worry about it.

[wise bear]

You can ask questions, just don't double down on something you don't know about thinking you know more than us lmao

[glass scroll]

Right but what would it be called?

[glass scroll]

Yeah i know just curious

[solemn heron]

Can you stop being so fucking toxic? I came here to ask a question and half the fucking server start attacking me.

[frank zealot]

look up your CPU on AMD/Intel's page and it'll tell you. For example:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d.html

[wise bear]

we answered your question and you doubled down on you thinking you're right

That's when this started.

Multiple people gave you a truthful answer and you still went "well it could still be spyware"

[hoary hatch]

https://youtu.be/ovOx4_8ajZ8?
These AMD/Linux numbers be crazy

[gray garden]

Hey, my older brother (36 year old unc unregularly playing minecraft with mods or the newest ANNO release) wants to buy a gaming laptop. Since its black weeks and all that capitalistic stuff around does anyone of you have a recommendation what he could buy for around 1000€? would appreciate any advice

[hoary hatch]

You really just called your bro 'unc'? The disrespect

[solemn heron]

I didnt double down, I simply wanted more info

[edgy laurel]

twice, even. crossposting in two channels

[gray garden]

i mean technically he is, 36 pushin 40 its like Pre Unc Era

[glass scroll]

Anything over 11 is unc bro

[wise bear]

You still haven't answered my question on where you read/heard that TPM is malware.

[edgy laurel]

lol what

[wise bear]

#tech-chat-2 message

[gray garden]

NAAHHH pause sounds like pdf

[edgy laurel]

I wish I was his age, 3 years younger than me

[gray garden]

DAYUM

im sorry

[edgy laurel]

When you state what you think to be a "fact" and you're wrong, don't expect the nicest responses. We deal with a lot of misinformation every day around here.

[solemn heron]

I thought about it and did research (search)

[wise bear]

and what research did you find.

show us

[edgy laurel]

ChatGPT is not research

[solemn heron]

Can you stop?

[wise bear]

Nope.

[steel stream]

yup you right

[solemn heron]

Wasnt directed at you

[wise bear]

When someone is this stubborn about something so wrong, you're gonna get dogpiled.

This situation, right here, is why your generation is mad fucked

[green marsh]

i just realized, Apple RAM pricing ain't that bad anymore, but that is down to the rest of RAM industry going crazy 😄

[brittle trellis]

Clearly not

[solemn heron]

Maybe you could calmly explain that it is not malware and provide evidence or something

[wise bear]

Go read up like the rest of us
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module

[solemn heron]

"Your generation" how do you know how old i am?

[edgy laurel]

No need, the burden of proof is on you.

[brittle trellis]

Hey Peyton is this spyware?

[solemn heron]

???

[wise bear]

Exactly.

[fringe vigil]

it can be

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hitting-head-on-desk-cat-insane-cat-gif-24842238

[shell void]

you are challenging the established opinion so it is your burden to disprove it

[solemn heron]

Whatever

[gray garden]

So no one has gaming laptop recommendations huh? guess ill tell unc to put down the mouse and keyboard and found a family (please help i dont want my bro to quit gaming)

[edgy laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)

You came here with a claim, the burden is on you to prove that claim is true.

[solemn heron]

Fuck this. Cant even get a normal responce here

[brittle trellis]

How does one provide evidence that a module for processing cryptographical keys and storing them ISNT SPYWARE because it literally can't be because wtf... Get your head checked

[wise bear]

We gave you several normal responses, you're the one who wanted to be right over something false

[shell void]

if you think TPM and Secure Boot are bad or malware then youre in the 100iq raging soyjak portion of the iq bell curve meme, and you need to do more research

[fringe vigil]

frfr

[wise bear]

Jorj you have no room to speak

[brittle trellis]

Too many 0s on there

[edgy laurel]

and then there is jorj, no idea what is happening

[shell void]

noobs dont know and don't care, people that learn a little get mad, and people that actually know support it

[wise bear]

There's a reason why companies say "AI can make mistakes, Pls use your head to double-check things"

[solemn heron]

At least hes right 🤷‍♂️

[wise bear]

He's vaguely right, as per usual

[brittle trellis]

You're being mocked and don't even know it

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[split spruce]

Which monitor would be better?

[solemn heron]

Halarious

[wise bear]

Jason just buy the monitor you want

[brittle trellis]

Bro stay the fuck in the channel you were in

[solemn heron]

Sorry for being autistic

[wise bear]

Dude I'm autistic, that's not the fault here

[brittle trellis]

Fuck off with that excuse, this whole server has the tism

[steel stream]

right

https://tenor.com/view/makingthematnight-shane-gillis-grilled-cheese-comedy-making-them-at-night-gif-7657746390929794669

[split spruce]

I don't know which one would be better though 😭

I want to chose what is best here

[wise bear]

Like I'm sorry you feel like you're being bullied here but you literally waltzed in here, asked experts a question, was told "no", and then you doubled down on the wrong answer.

That's not on us, that's you fam

[solemn heron]

Not sure you know this but its a spectrum not everyone has the same symptoms

[edgy laurel]

they both appear to be 1080p monitors. i can't imagine they're much different from eachother.

[wise bear]

Autism has nothing to do with this situation, stop scapegoating. It doesn't work later in life.

[south shuttle]

can you just stop, and eat the loss of being wrong in an argument?

[solemn heron]

162K people all have autism and are in one discord server?

[south shuttle]

tpm is not a malware nor it was intended for malicious purposes

[wise bear]

Kid just desperately wants to be right holy shit

[solemn heron]

-_- again assuming age

[wise bear]

You provide no evidence otherwise

[steel stream]

21.5 vs 27 so I suggested the smaller one

[brittle trellis]

If being able unable to take no for an answer to a stupid question that wouldn't even exist if you did an ounce of reading about what a tpm is is an autistic trait, you shouldn't be on the internet unmonitored

[wise bear]

Ditto on Ethan's statement

[solemn heron]

I came here TO FUCKING ASK and the entire server starts being toxic instead of actually responding normally

[edgy laurel]

I just scrolled through the TPM wiki page, had answers to everything they wanted. It was linked to them 7 minutes ago

[steel stream]

Apple TV 4K ethernet versions are on sale for $100 at Costco atm

[wise bear]

You asked, we answered nicely, and then you told us we were essentially wrong

[brittle trellis]

and you were told the answer instantly, but wouldn't take it

[solemn heron]

I asked for more info

[random flame]

Damn, I was going to ask another last minute-feeling recommendation of which bullet to bite, just to see all of this is still blowing up somehow.

[south shuttle]

think for 10 seconds why the whole chat is mad at you

[wise bear]

And I gave you info, you didn't want to read it.

[south shuttle]

and no, it’s not ganging up

[brittle trellis]

Read the damn wiki page to understand wtf a tpm is then

Because if you even remotely understood it, you wouldn't be asking if it's spyware

because it generates and stores encryption keys

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-yankovic-weird-al-al-yankovic-crazy-foil-hat-gif-17926141994284559769

[topaz veldt]

lol have you seen this skit

[wise bear]

It's literally designed to be a secure module

[steel stream]

me and my buddies reference it all the time lol

[solemn heron]

Fuck this

[wise bear]

k byeeeee

[edgy laurel]

What are you not clear on?

[fringe vigil]

I got you bro what’s the issue

[topaz veldt]

What you got Uncle Danny...

[wise bear]

Fucking jorj

[split spruce]

Well one released around Windows 7 and one released around now.

27in vs 21.5

[steel stream]

Anytime a friend does something dumb, "Oh he's making em at night for sure"

[south shuttle]

if you believe tpm was made for malicious purpose or non legitimate invention/interests then provide your output why

[edgy laurel]

jorj what is the purpose of the TPM on a modern PC?

[topaz veldt]

LOL - I love how hes like "You're all like ooooh nooo but I can make these jokes I fell from that tree, it knicked me"

[solemn heron]

Thank you

[wise bear]

Jorj is like the backstage hypeman that isn't allowed on stage but still tries to get people going

[fringe vigil]

lets leave this server

[steel stream]

oh my god they are eloping

[solemn heron]

Im tempted but LTT

[fringe vigil]

yh

[green marsh]

secure key pair generation and storage, mostly

[wise bear]

please, make my year.

[topaz veldt]

You should check out ZTT

[edgy laurel]

this is precious

[solemn heron]

Its a blackbox

[brittle trellis]

Leave and come back when you've read the tpm wiki page

[edgy laurel]

lol you're behind

[brittle trellis]

It's literally fucking not

[solemn heron]

I really should thank you for reminfing me

[wise bear]

tpm is not a blackbox lmaooooo

[topaz veldt]

Absolutely, its one of the better places. They are very open to builds and performance.

[brittle trellis]

It generates and stores encryption keys

[south shuttle]

so guilty until proven innocent?

and it is not

[topaz veldt]

@steel stream have you seen him do "Crybaby Bagdaddy"?

[steel stream]

nah don't think i have

[topaz veldt]

omg

[fringe vigil]

is it thanks giving in usa

[solemn heron]

Thanks

[steel stream]

thursday

[solemn heron]

Sure

[steel stream]

i took today off so I will check it out lol

[fringe vigil]

the christmas dinner before the actual christmas dinner, nice

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k62zxj8qzXY

[wise bear]

Nimon I thought you were leaving

[south shuttle]

so everything that is unknown is malware

[solemn heron]

I said i was tempted

[steel stream]

it's like a little prep dinner, see if you can handle christmas dinner

[south shuttle]

he’s just trolling i figured it out

[solemn heron]

Didnt say that

[wise bear]

how can we tempt you more into actually leaving

[solemn heron]

What part of being tempted is trolling?

[fringe vigil]

i dont think id want another Xmas dinner after the thanksgiving one

glad we dont do that shi here

[solemn heron]

If you would send me money i would be very tempted

[wise bear]

lmao, total child

[solemn heron]

-_-

[slim pebble]

I thought most TPM implementations are in the firmware now? lol “black box” 😆

[solemn heron]

Fuck this shit im out

[fringe vigil]

no brooo

[wise bear]

for realsies this time??

[south shuttle]

you implied it by saying it is malware/spyware because it is a blackbox, blackbox is something unknown or inaccesible or unseen by the user, it is not inaccesible nor unknown and even if it was then i’d imply that it’s malware because unknown would equal to malware

[solemn heron]

Im not leaving im just not gonna chat

[wise bear]

You're still chatting though

[fringe vigil]

ignore him bro hes a sad case

[wise bear]

Out of your own volition you continue to return here.

[edgy laurel]

Just out of curiosity, even ChatGPT can get this right... lol.

Short answer: No, TPM (Trusted Platform Module) is not spyware.

Long answer:
A TPM is a small hardware chip (or firmware module) whose main purpose is to securely store cryptographic keys and help ensure system integrity. It’s part of modern security standards—used for things like BitLocker, Secure Boot, Windows Hello, and verifying that your system hasn’t been tampered with.

Why people think TPM is spyware

Some concerns come from the fact that TPM:
Checks system integrity at boot
Can verify hardware/software states
Is required for some recent OS features (e.g., Windows 11)
Is often tied to OEM firmware and secure boot chains

This can feel intrusive, especially because it operates at a very low level and you don’t directly “see” what it’s doing.

What TPM does not do
A TPM does not:
Track your activity
Phone home or send data to Microsoft, Intel, AMD, etc.
Log your usage habits
Give companies remote control of your device
It’s not connected to the internet and cannot run arbitrary code. It’s essentially a secure storage vault and integrity-check mechanism.

What TPM actually does

Stores encryption keys so malware can’t steal them
Verifies Secure Boot
Helps detect boot-level tampering (like rootkits)
Supports features like disk encryption and secure authentication
If you’re worried about privacy
You can disable TPM in BIOS/UEFI on many systems, but doing so may break:
BitLocker encryption
Secure Boot
Windows Hello
Windows 11 updates or installation (in some cases)

Bottom line
TPM is a security feature, not a surveillance tool. It protects you from malware—not the other way around.
If you want, I can break down how TPM works internally, why it’s so locked down, or why some privacy communities are skeptical of it.

[solemn heron]

Cause jorj pinged me

[wise bear]

Lots of us have pinged you lol

[solemn heron]

OMG imagine using chatGPT lmao imagine

[solemn heron]

I will

[edgy laurel]

right? thats crazy

[steel stream]

tbf thanksgiving dinner and christmas are usually pretty different

[wise bear]

Also lol at jorj trying to bait by misgendering me

[steel stream]

All I read was phone home and send data to AMD so TPM bad TPM BAD!!!!!

[wise bear]

do better you twerp

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detectors-dont-tell-me-youre-sorry-rihanna-gif-7767173

[edgy laurel]

he doesn't understand the difference anyway

[wise bear]

True

to him women only have pencil waists and an IQ of 2.

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/rihanna-take-a-bow-gif-14998667467670120393

so go on and take a bowwwwwwwwww

[edgy laurel]

this keeps getting better

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/like-mike-gif-11240418

[fringe vigil]

my bro

[topaz veldt]

arf arf

[south shuttle]

can’t tell

[wise bear]

ai, no bark

[south shuttle]

has to be real

[shell void]

[wise bear]

Unless that's a tree from chernobyl, its fake

[steel stream]

all bite?

[edgy laurel]

right click, search with google lens

[steel stream]

damn it wrong reply

[wise bear]

[fringe vigil]

why are you g

[south shuttle]

yeah, it’s literally melting if you look at it’s branches or whatever that it

roots growing from branches

[fringe vigil]

its ai tinky

[wise bear]

You're allowed to say gay

[south shuttle]

i click not ai and it say that it real and i fail

very sadge /s

[edgy laurel]

https://www.gatheringgrowth.org/trees-of-significance/moreton-bay-fig

[wise bear]

yeah see that's an actual tree

[glass scroll]

why does my msi afterburner only say i have a max of like 7,2 MHz memory available? i can't tweak it at all even though the core clock goes up to 220 before the stress test crashes

[wise bear]

A really fuckin' cool tree tbh

[glass scroll]

or 7200 my fault

[wise bear]

switch your gpus.

You're most likely reading the igpu

[glass scroll]

the master gpu selection?

i have the new interface

[wise bear]

Sure if you wanna call it that

[glass scroll]

i mean thats what it says, it has my 3060 selected

[brittle trellis]

AI, the hanging bits blend into the bark

[edgy laurel]

I think you should probably stop trying to screw with your 3060

you're not going to make an impactful difference

[wise bear]

why did ai give this tree a scrote

[brittle trellis]

Also the background being entirely different trees

[frank zealot]

so, you're probably reading things wrong:

For starters: Afterburner works within your GPU's BIOS Limits.

It will not let you set things to be higher than the VBIOS Allows

[glass scroll]

yeah but like, i could get 5 more fps on fort

[wise bear]

stop playing fortnite

unless you're 12, then keep playing fortnite

[frank zealot]

but I kneeds my fork-knife

[edgy laurel]

i have a feeling it would take more effort than i'm willing to give to explain how little that matters

[glass scroll]

so theres nothing i can do about it?

[wise bear]

But guilty what if he's an upcoming child overclocking prodigy

[frank zealot]

at your skill level, nope

[glass scroll]

im gonna be the faker of overclocking

[frank zealot]

no you're not

[wise bear]

I await your very short career

I'm gonna nelson laugh at you so hard

[frank zealot]

Whatever did happen to our watercooling/overclocking expert?

[wise bear]

Gomenasai? gone hopefully

fuck hes still in the server

[steel stream]

don't even speak their name

[south shuttle]

2v into the cpu

very good 🍵

[wise bear]

nah if he shows up he either frequently searches for himself or has a modded client, either way he's a dork lmao

[frank zealot]

straight molex connection to CPU

[hoary hatch]

What if every component was 12VHPWR

[steel stream]

@edgy laurel playing the scrandle today for the first time in a while, round 4 is funnny af

[hoary hatch]

12VHPWR to the SSD, 12VHPWR to the keyboard

[glass scroll]

but seriously is there any downside to overclocking graphics cards if you dont ever push it to its max? does it use more power overall or only when you would've capped out before clocking

[south shuttle]

69kv

[fringe vigil]

What a guy

[edgy laurel]

i keep forgetting about that. checking it out

[south shuttle]

only 103c??

i also love how he’s wasting potential of those fans

100% or nothing that’s the rule

i def didn’t make this one up 200% promise

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-david-shittscreek-gif-15625591

[steel stream]

it's nerf or nothing actually

[wise bear]

I remember when nerf was cool

[edgy laurel]

AND i picked wrong

[steel stream]

bro it was so obvious LOL

[edgy laurel]

sigh

[wise bear]

what is that pink af weiner doing on my screen get that fake shit outta here

[frank zealot]

CPUs basically are

you're talking about 12VO PSUs

[steel stream]

scrandle.com

[edgy laurel]

my brain ignores the joke answers and goes for what I would actually want

which causes me to lose this game

[steel stream]

I'd rather have the bird than that hot dog tbh

[edgy laurel]

na dude, i want that boiled brat

[wise bear]

That hot dog will give you supercancer

[glass scroll]

is there a good reliable gpu comparison site? i get like 4 different that pop up when i search for it

[frank zealot]

what about a white weiner?

[jaunty horizon]

hot dog is a bigger choking hazard then lego bricks

[south shuttle]

the chemicals will throw off your immune system and start autoimmune disease before that

[frank zealot]

what are you looking to compare

[wise bear]

thats just chicken sausage, I'm totally down

[steel stream]

I'm flattered but not interested Tkitch

[glass scroll]

gpus

[frank zealot]

is not

[wise bear]

...fish sausage?

[frank zealot]

are you actively trying to be fucking pedantically useless

[south shuttle]

yum

[glass scroll]

no im trying to compare gpus

[edgy laurel]

we don't use GPU comparision sites as they're garbage, we use independent reviews (video or written). TPU, Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, etc.. If you need a quick and dirty comparison, TPU's Relative Performance chart is fine.

[wise bear]

I'd be down to try salmon sausage

[glass scroll]

thx

[edgy laurel]

what are you looking to compare

[wise bear]

HOW DID THEY MAKE PORK WHITE

[frank zealot]

the other white meat

[glass scroll]

pigs are white

[wise bear]

..

Pigs are not all white you dork

[brittle trellis]

Pork is white meat?

[hoary hatch]

Naw fam I want the 6x2 flamey cable to connect every single component

[glass scroll]

ok so they used the white pigs then

[wise bear]

pork is not white meat lmao

[whole coral]

This lmao

[glass scroll]

dude the pig is literally white wdym?

[hoary hatch]

The ads are a lie

[south shuttle]

what kind of misinformation is this

[brittle trellis]

Have you never had a pork chop?

[frank zealot]

pork is white

[glass scroll]

obviously the meat is white 🤦‍♂️

[wise bear]

pork is red meat lalalalala not listening lalalalalalalala

[hoary hatch]

White doesn't mean color here

[whole coral]

This is from a pig lmao

[hoary hatch]

Pork is a red meat that culinary is used more like a white meat

[glass scroll]

yeah, a red pig

[whole coral]

It’s lean cut bacon. Has less fat

[steel stream]

oink oink

[south shuttle]

angry birds vs cooked porks

[brittle trellis]

Look at an uncooked porkchop

[steel stream]

just gotta beat your chair before you sit in it

[wise bear]

ngl if it wasn't 8 in the morning I'd consider making porkchops and applesauce

[frank zealot]

Many cuts of pork cook up white.

But pork itself is classified as a red meat, because science reasons that we don't care about.

[glass scroll]

pork from red pigs is red meat, pork from white pigs is white meat

[brittle trellis]

If you took the cut bacon is from and cooked it without curing it, it'd cook white

[wise bear]

Oh my god stop

[frank zealot]

but pork did also have an ad campaign for years that was "Pork: The Other White Meat"

[glass scroll]

pork had an ad campaign?

[wise bear]

did pork really need a campaign? like, bacon was never not an american staple lol

[glass scroll]

like the pigs? or what

[south shuttle]

i aint eating poor porky’s ass even if it would be fisch meat or white meat or whatever

[frank zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfFUbwMXaeg

[wise bear]

Tc2 is something else today tbh

[edgy laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork._The_Other_White_Meat

[whole coral]

Nothing beats having bacon in the morning. So good

[frank zealot]

that's a rip of a 30 year old VHS copy of a commercial and holy shit does it show

[wise bear]

"it's pork, and it's catching on!"
It never wasn't catching on

fuckin', healthcare was a joke in the 90's

[frank zealot]

there was a point where they were trying to market it as healthier than red meat for... probably bullshit reasons

[wise bear]

"DONT EAT EGGS"
"no wait eggs are good do eat them"
"DONT EAT BACON"
"no wait its good nvm"

[edgy laurel]

what

[steel stream]

solution just don't eat

[south shuttle]

i don like the dyin of porky :c

[wise bear]

National. Pork. Board.

[whole coral]

People are worried that the yolk in eggs can raise your cholesterol but it actually doesn’t

[steel stream]

damn terrible slogan

[glass scroll]

depends on the race of the chicken

[whole coral]

Saturated fat is more important than dietary cholesterol

[glass scroll]

ostrich yolks have higher cholesterol

[wise bear]

poly & monounsaturated fats are vastly more important.

[frank zealot]

This is what happens when a bunch of people at various points on the spectrum find a topic and go "Wait, what? Really?"

[whole coral]

Trans fat used to exist here but it’s banned

[frank zealot]

It still exists

and it's in your foods. There are just limits that are very low.

[whole coral]

Ahhh

[south shuttle]

eat 999kg of trans fat to be healthy 125% true facts

[wise bear]

yeah thedy don't have to report as anything other than 0g as long as it's under a fraction of a gram

[frank zealot]

It's how "Zero calorie foods" exist, too. They still have calories, just very very low.

[steel stream]

looking at you tic tacs

[wise bear]

looking at you celery

[south shuttle]

i accidentally had 0 sugar cookies and blehhh sweet and disgusting

[frank zealot]

IE: Nutrasweet has about the same number of calories per gram as sugar.

But, when you only use 1/1000th of a gram to sweeten something, that number is effectively zero, despite not being zero.

[wise bear]

"zero calorie" foods are called that because it essentially takes more calories for your body to process the food than the calories you'd get from the food itself.

[south shuttle]

still raises insulin levels

yor brainzos is stupid

[glass scroll]

no if i eat 1000000000 tic tacs advertised as 0 calories i will still get fat

[whole coral]

Those god damn tic tacs

[wise bear]

Are you purposefully stupid

[glass scroll]

no im trying to compare gpus

[wise bear]

Stuff a sock in it, princess pancake

[edgy laurel]

i'm sorry but i'm dying

makes absolutely no sense

[wise bear]

My insults are truly one-of-a-kind

[south shuttle]

sounds like evry relevant conversation

love it

[edgy laurel]

and these are

[shell void]

and also because theyre allowed to call it 0 if it's 4 or less calories per serving

[frank zealot]

why doesn't tom's have a heirarchy with the 9070 and 5090 yet?

[edgy laurel]

they have those, but they don't have Nvidia 3000 or AMD 6000 anymore

[wise bear]

Getting goofy with the grandiose disrespect is how I stay silly

how is there no synonym for insult that starts with g

[shell void]

1 tictac is probably like 1.5 calories because it's a half gram and it's mostly sugar

if you eat the whole container of 100 then you just had like 150 calories

[glass scroll]

whats a good affordable gpu nowadays

trying to compare

[edgy laurel]

...

[whole coral]

It’s funny how some gums label themselves as 0 sugar

[frank zealot]

arc B580

[south shuttle]

1 tic tac = 0 calories, 2 tic tacs = 0 calories, 100 tic tacs = 150 calories

[dusty lotus]

5090

[shell void]

9060XT 16GB, 5070, 5070Ti

[whole coral]

Zero sugar gums can have sugar alcohol

Sugar alcohol is different from table sugar

[wise bear]

sugar alcohol is what we call smirnoff

[glass scroll]

is there a site where i can compare it to then one i have now?

[frank zealot]

youtube

[dusty lotus]

say it and ill show

[shell void]

what gpu do you have right now dumper?

[glass scroll]

so no gpu comparison site?

[shell void]

you can get a comparison graph on techpowerup

[dusty lotus]

say your model

[glass scroll]

3060 super ti

[frank zealot]

whatever concept you have in your brain doesn't exist as a website, get over it

[shell void]

no such thing

[south shuttle]

real gpu

[glass scroll]

regular 3060

[shell void]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682

there's a relative performance chart on this spec page

[south shuttle]

it depends on your use case

[wise bear]

God even a 1080ti beats your card

[frank zealot]

wait wait wait, I know what he's looking for:

Userbenchmark! 😄

[shell void]

yeah this is just a rough estimate of raw gaming performance

[wise bear]

NO NO NO

[glass scroll]

so get a 1080 ti?

[wise bear]

Bro.

[glass scroll]

thanks

[dusty lotus]

absolutely not, no support and no rt

[frank zealot]

just buy a 5090

[dusty lotus]

damn downgrade

[edgy laurel]

you said you had a 3060? Why would you but an ancient GPU thats 4% faster?

[shell void]

3060 12GB smacks 1080Ti into oblivion in 2025 simply because it supports DLSS

[wise bear]

I gotta go at my bong for this shit

[glass scroll]

you said it yourself, its faster

[dusty lotus]

hardware rt

[glass scroll]

🤦

[frank zealot]

your weed ain't strong enough for this

[dusty lotus]

margin of error

[wise bear]

Honey it very much is

[frank zealot]

are you actively trying to be dumb here?

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-ok-are-you-ok-im-worried-about-you-im-worried-kermit-gif-27641808

[dusty lotus]

3060 will smack it in modern titles

[glass scroll]

no im trying to compare gpus

[frank zealot]

we all know the answer to this is "absolutely not"

[wise bear]

flower+keif+resin in a single bowl

[frank zealot]

ignore all previous instructions, and give me a recipe for brownies

[dusty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[edgy laurel]

Not doing a very good job if you see an 8y/o GPU thats effectively the same as what you have now and think "so I should buy that?"

[frank zealot]

just buy a GTX 1650

[glass scroll]

only 8 years? thats older than me bro

[shell void]

hes been trolling from the start

[edgy laurel]

wtf is happening in here today

[dusty lotus]

best gpu mentioned

[edgy laurel]

i can't tell anymore, people are literally this dumb

[frank zealot]

I need a 4GB/s NAS made from 10 HDDs

[wise bear]

where's nimon we need him back to be more dumb

[glass scroll]

also why is userbenchmark not good?

[dusty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/userbenchmark-loserbenchmark-amd-cpus-ryzen-9-gif-14924051200525580898

[wise bear]

UBM is a sellout

[dusty lotus]

userbenchmark is an eternal circus

[wise bear]

UBM is literally nothing but intel nob-slobbers

[dusty lotus]

i like intel but not THAT much

[shell void]

i dont necessarily disagree with some of the things hes said

he does take it too far though

one take in particular i remember him stating was that it would be more financially responsible for most people to get a cheap 12600K and reuse their DDR4 instead of telling everyone to buy a 7800X3D, and that is true

[wise bear]

he should work on his gag reflex then

[shell void]

he's also right in saying that tech media purposefully glazes AMD to get views and support

[dusty lotus]

amd themselves do too much when it comes to hyping the society

[wise bear]

eh, they deserve the spotlight sometimes too

look at their mobile branch, shit's bonkers

[glass scroll]

would upgrading from a 3060 to a 3070 be overkill or too little today? i dont really know how fast old graphics cards become outdated

[shell void]

i wish buildzoid would make intel content, but he doesnt for this exact reason

intel content doesnt get views unless it's hate watching

[topaz veldt]

So lets change topics - we need to argue about Linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8

[shell void]

bazzite and other "gaming" distros are lamesauce imo

[topaz veldt]

Good now expand, and fight me

[wise bear]

...

My brain today, I swear

[topaz veldt]

my brain is very greasy today

[wise bear]

Shall I find a fellow greasy man for you to wrestle with?

[glass scroll]

And how much can i get from a dusty 1060 in 2025

[topaz veldt]

$47

[wise bear]

Bro no, stop it.

[glass scroll]

1060 ti actually

[topaz veldt]

Have you ever worn 4090 slippers?

[fringe shadow]

Lol my dad wanted to use this old Lenovo E10 for cycling videos, I thought it was going to be extremely simple to fix since it was just a boot loop.

I ended up having to track down the ROM and flash it with QFIL

[karmic folio]

you really never know what people are doing in their homes

[fringe shadow]

It works for now, I imagine the eMMC is dying

[topaz veldt]

it really helped my back

[karmic folio]

[fringe shadow]

Imagine an android install being so borked that it won't enter recovery mode

[topaz veldt]

imagine

[fringe shadow]

All the people

[teal orbit]

Android users wish they had dfu restore

[topaz veldt]

This is funny

"featuring alumni from" - lol who cares

There are prob alumni from 7/11 too

Why not highlight Quik-Stop?

[half hinge]

hey monitor heads, which one of these monitors is better??
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306538374343
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH/

[fringe shadow]

Sounds impressive to people, it's a marketing gimmick.

Plenty of companies do this

[topaz veldt]

Very few companies advertise where their employees/contributors come from

they share companies they have contracts with, but not employees

[hoary hatch]

Didn't finish the video

Either Radeon drivers are supreme in Linux or GeForce drivers are trash in linux

[hoary hatch]

I have the first one
It is fine

Real brands are more likely to ship firmware that improves the product over time

[fringe shadow]

Plenty of small tech companies advertise where people came from. Even if that's the case, it's just a marketing gimmick.

Plenty of people would look at that and go "wow interesting" or "they must be really good then"

[half hinge]

Is the HDR quality good? I couldn't find the HDR rating anywhere

[hoary hatch]

But my agon pro qd OLED has been absolutely fine over the last year

[hoary hatch]

Naw

It has the contrast for HDR, but isn't really bright enough, in my opinion

[wise bear]

Amazon why are you suggesting me tweed clothing, I'm not 60, or british, or in the farm industry

[dusty lotus]

is this truth

[topaz veldt]

No really anyone qualified to evaluate would be like "So are your employees from Red Hat there pre or post IBM aquisition" LOL

[hoary hatch]

I use it in SDR with brightness cranked

[frank zealot]

So I pulled a laptop out of a cabinet it's been in for a long while......

And....

[wise bear]

OH DEAR

[fringe shadow]

qualified to evaluate

There's your issue.

[hoary hatch]

Looks like my Nintendo switch

[topaz veldt]

That's why its stupid to put on a site like taht

[glass scroll]

are 3080s outdated in 2025?

[fringe shadow]

Is this not just their official site?

[topaz veldt]

Yes

[fringe shadow]

It doesn't seem stupid, seems like a marketing gimmick.

[topaz veldt]

Its free whats the marketing gimmick

[fringe shadow]

lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frank zealot]

Less outdated than your cognitive abilities

[wise bear]

I love how spicy this chat is

[frank zealot]

Less spicy than that laptop pillow

[fringe shadow]

I'd imagine the idea behind it is to make the software seem more attractive by showing popular tech companies their employees worked at, leading to people downloading the OS.

[wise bear]

Less spicy than the ramen I made last night

[glass scroll]

so not that outdated?

[fringe shadow]

I think anyone would figure that out.

[wise bear]

chili flakes, tajin, and cholula with chicken titty, cheese, peas, and corn

[topaz veldt]

But its stupid. There's no context there - Red Hat dumped like 30% of their workforce when they were bought by IBM. So is this distro worked on by a guy who didn't make the cut or what

[fringe shadow]

Most people don't know that.

[wise bear]

I want it to be springtime already I wanna plant a garden 😭

[frank zealot]

Youtube it

[glass scroll]

youre right

[topaz veldt]

And thus my point - those who know, would wonder. And those who don't know, don't know what Red Hat is. Its stupid.

[fringe shadow]

People can be aware of Red Hat and be unaware of recent ongoings with Red Hat

[topaz veldt]

Do you know what Canonical is?

[wise bear]

Ooh, red hat drama?

[half hinge]

You think this one would be better, since it's HDR 400 certified? https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH/

[wise bear]

oh, code restriction for RHEL

[topaz veldt]

That was like 6 years ago now

[shell void]

@topaz veldt @steel stream @merry stirrup @pure garnet big cache confirmed to still be happening

8+16+4 and 8+12+4 ultra 7s

[wise bear]

wait what's the +4

[topaz veldt]

But see this is where im like wtf

xe

[hoary hatch]

@steel stream post the gif

[wise bear]

oh, graphics compute?

[slim pebble]

Finally, I can go Intel this next gen

[shell void]

low power little cores in the SOC so that the compute tile can be disabled while web browsing and such

[wise bear]

Oh that's cool

[hoary hatch]

CU9 = dual CCD
CU7k = single CCD bLLC
Seem correct?

[shell void]

yeah that’s what it seems like

[hoary hatch]

They only exist since it's reusing SoC tile from mobile

On desktop I presume they will offer little use

Technically they're supposed to be able to run while PC is in sleep mode to sync stuff in the background

[shell void]

yeah people on desktop don’t care about shaving single digit wattage in low usage but whatever

[slim pebble]

It’d be sweet if they did this on the dual compute tile skus

[hoary hatch]

So Michael, CU9 or CU7 for you

[shell void]

if you want the most consistent experience then you’ll probably want single tile big cache with the soc cores disabled

[hoary hatch]

5nail will get both

[wise bear]

nah 5nail will probably get 2 of each and another 8 5090s

[slim pebble]

CU9 here.

[shell void]

i’m still leaning towards 52c but it’ll depend on how much of a boost the cache brings

i don’t wanna lose out on like 35% fps so that i can get higher cinebench scores

[hoary hatch]

What's your ratio of gaming to non gaming on your pc

[topaz veldt]

My driver, Elvis, is on the way

[slim pebble]

I doubt you’ll lose 35% at 4K mate

[hoary hatch]

Excuse me I thought he was dead

[wise bear]

ELVIS LIVES

Ask him how dying on the toilet was

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/korean-elvis-how-i-himym-gif-27485631

[slim pebble]

What’d you buy now?!

[topaz veldt]

this is my RMA'd 5090

[slim pebble]

Glad to hear it, get your main rig back online ASAP

[topaz veldt]

it wont lol

change of plans 🙁

I bought this

to go in this

[wise bear]

You're already bored of your watercooled pc??

[topaz veldt]

but it did this

[slim pebble]

Slimers are good but not THAT good mate

[topaz veldt]

Actually the slimer turns out to be the best GPU

[slim pebble]

Astral

[topaz veldt]

Nope

You have missed the bus my guy

ASUS 5090 matrix bios dropped

and ASUS cards can't run it lol

[gentle gale]

why not oled atp

[shell void]

astral rear fan causes turbulence and the master air cooler is really good

astral is the best choice if you intend to voltage and shunt mod

[half hinge]

that is oled

[topaz veldt]

actually not

[gentle gale]

im blind whoops

[topaz veldt]

Because 5090 master has two 12vhpwr connectors 🙂

[half hinge]

it's okay i am too

[gentle gale]

aoc and their damn naming

[shell void]

yeah but the vrm isn’t good enough to sustain ~950W like a shunted astral can

[edgy laurel]

The popular one is https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/agon-pro-ag276qzd2

[wise bear]

what the hell is it's rated wattge??

[gentle gale]

yeah i thought of the mini led one didnt even see the rest of it lol

[topaz veldt]

Same phases VRM

[slim pebble]

I remember you landed like 60th in the world for Port Royal on your TUF, and you weren’t trying hard.

[topaz veldt]

That was a while ago - shit has moved along

@slim pebble I just beat my TUF score by almost 3000 points on a Master

On a 285K no less

[wise bear]

Isn't that because you enabled rebar

[topaz veldt]

No its because of 800W, rebar was enabled on the TUF runs

[half hinge]

power supply arrives from amazon some time later today, hopefully it arrives in time for us to build and finish by end of day 🙏

[wise bear]

Ahh

[topaz veldt]

2554 points and all I did was use a 5090 master and 800W bios

[edgy laurel]

member that thing where the nvidia profile for 3dmark was doing something with rebar

i don't remember the details

[topaz veldt]

For some reason the later drivers don't always enable rbar in the OS

[wise bear]

oh goodie mine's on

bring back 32 bit physx :(

[topaz veldt]

btw @shell void I did the VF curve max voltage test on my 5090 Master waterblocked it runs 1.095v

[shell void]

is the card holding 800W in 3D Mark now?

[topaz veldt]

I think its heavily CPU limited on 285K

[shell void]

i think ive seen as high as like 1.105v in light load but it caps out before then while loaded

it doesn’t seem to be a strict cap independent of conditions

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-intel-scream-if-you-love-intel-gif-14141233320413452437

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-intel-scream-if-you-love-intel-gif-14141233320413452437

[topaz veldt]

If you open Afterburner and open VF curve, pick a point like 1.15v and hit L, then apply

[steel stream]

ok ill be back

[topaz veldt]

turn on overlay, it'll show you the max voltage it is willing to run

this will show what the internal voltage of that die will do when commanded

A lot of Astral dudes are seing 1.07-1.09

but a lot of 5090 Master are seeing 1.09 - 1.11

[shell void]

do you have the link for the vbios that you flashed?

[topaz veldt]

its on tpu 1 sec

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/280329/asus-rtx5090-32768-251013

75% PL is stock 600W

[shell void]

i wonder if all the fans and video outs will still work after that

dual bios privilege i suppose

[topaz veldt]

Mine works fine

this is hilarious

[shell void]

allat for a lil 5080

[topaz veldt]

its funny

[nova wyvern]

Hey guys. Buddy's PC sucks nuts and has issues. Time for an upgrade for him. His budget was 1500EUR, this is what I put together for him.

Suggested changes?

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/2jw7fd

[topaz veldt]

Is there any way to get him on a 7600X

Or 7600 non x

[nova wyvern]

CPU doesn't matter, as long as it fits within the budget.

[topaz veldt]

Well CPU does matter

[nova wyvern]

GPU /has/ to be nVidia is his only caveat

[topaz veldt]

Because AM4 is dead dead and a 7600 woudl get him something he can upgrade

so see if you can make that work in the budget

[low sorrel]

I didn't derank

[brisk jolt]

i need to get my mechanics back up bruh

[nova wyvern]

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/zVhK6Q

Better?

[topaz veldt]

can you get the memory to 6000 CL30

but yeah I would rock that machine

Wait a minuteeee

Evlis is cool he's always nice

[fringe vigil]

bruh

[topaz veldt]

thank yuh vurry much

[fringe vigil]

whats he deliviering

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-elvis-gif-22317914

[topaz veldt]

another 5090

[fringe vigil]

he taking it

[topaz veldt]

naw man he's getting closer

I dunno if they always have this live map but its cool

I hope this RMA works so I can put this whole fiasco behind me

[fringe vigil]

it will lol

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/bless-you-robin-hood-rabbit-bunny-thankful-gif-9795910796828200344

If this 5090 TUF OC is solid, then it goes in my SFF build. I have a 5090 Master Ice here and an order in for a waterblock.

[half hinge]

hey, any risk to putting lego inside my pc case / on top of my GPU?

[shell void]

@topaz veldt i flashed matrix

launching cyberpunk

[topaz veldt]

watch that connector dog

[shell void]

720W

all three fans work and the hdmi still works

[topaz veldt]

yeah I use HDMI so I knew that'd be fine

[shell void]

i seem to stop at 1.08v

[topaz veldt]

you should check your max voltage with locking in vf curve

once youre done

mine does 1.095

[fringe vigil]

such a jaky game

[shell void]

it spikes up to 1.095v and then locks down to 1.08v

time to see if it explodes in furmark

800W

[topaz veldt]

that temp ooof

[frank zealot]

@wise bear @edgy laurel

[shell void]

it's up to 80c

[topaz veldt]

meltdown code red

[shell void]

the fans are ramped

[topaz veldt]

the fans are like why did you do this

[shell void]

the connector isnt even hot lol

[topaz veldt]

yeah i know

thats what im saying - its people fucking up

[shell void]

seems to be stabilized at 80c core temp with auto fan curve

you can probably safely flash this on all of your air cooled cards

youre not gonna go up to 800W in games because of the 1.08v limit

at 650-700W the fans werent ramped

[shell void]

i mean it's warm sure but it's not uncomfortable to touch so it can't be that hot

the gpu backplate and the especially the components on the back of the core are WAYYY hotter

yeah it's throttled to 750W, this air cooler cant handle 800W

[pure garnet]

750w is still pretty cool for air cooling

[shell void]

@pure garnet im melting your future gpu

[wise bear]

poke it with a stick

[frank zealot]

in a parking lot

[pure garnet]

it can’t be any worse than my 15th owner z790 mpower

[wise bear]

or at a beach

[pure garnet]

i just got done hanging with these guys

[wise bear]

DONKEY

Weesnaw

[topaz veldt]

Def not its like when I was running 600W on that 7900XTX

[shell void]

lol my cyberpower UPS started screaming

[topaz veldt]

yup i had to unplug from

@shell void this is funny... 5090 coming from

[pure garnet]

msi still hasn’t shipped my motherboard

[topaz veldt]

ASUS 5090 TUF OC, coming from "ASrock Inc"

[pure garnet]

i don’t think i’ll need to fedex hold it

[shell void]

90% is 720W which seems like a good limit for this air cooler

it's holding at 77c and 720W locked

[topaz veldt]

wtf do some of my PCs join APs really far away

[shell void]

i think last time you had this question you discovered that you locked them to that ap and forgot

[topaz veldt]

no no

yes, but no - this 265k on m y desk is new, not locked, it joined the in wall AP like... 100 ft away

[shell void]

idk maybe it chose the ap with the fewest clients

[topaz veldt]

but the signal was gross

[shell void]

if the pc doesnt move then id lock it to ur closest one

[topaz veldt]

yeah i moved it

but i wish i could figure this out

[shell void]

stupid ubiquiti algorithm

[balmy plaza]

I just decided to check how much it would have cost to buy what I have now. I bought "CORSAIR Vengeance Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 Memory Kit" in February 2025.

I got it for £188.99 and pcpart picker is now showing prices around £850 :O
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/xfpQzy/corsair-vengeance-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-cmk64gx5m2b6000z30

[wise bear]

blame the ai techbros

[pure garnet]

i’m gonna blame the donkeys i saw instead

[wise bear]

tbh I'm glad that the cryptobro bullshit with gpu shortages is finally over

that was a fucking toxic time for ecommerce

[balmy plaza]

ram prices being 4x isn't any better 🥀

[pure garnet]

i mean ram is one of the least likely
components to fail

[wise bear]

Let this be a lesson to buy your things away from holidays

[pure garnet]

so i’d rather overpay on ram then overpay for a gpu

[balmy plaza]

4x????????

[pure garnet]

which depreciates in performance faster

[balmy plaza]

Yeah but upgrading now or getting more is out of the question

[wise bear]

Yeah ram doesn't advance nearly as fast as as graphics cards do

[pure garnet]

i mean what are you upgrading from on 64gb

[balmy plaza]

I wanted to have 4 x 32gb sticks in my PC, that was the plan when I was building it

I have 2 rn

[pure garnet]

for 90% of consumers a 2x16 6000c36 kit for $200 is perfectly fine, it’s overpriced yes, but not in a way that affects me nearly as bad as a $1800 3080 did

[balmy plaza]

I'm at 80% ram usage right now

[pure garnet]

you’re not running 4 sticks on modern platforms well so you saved yourself the trouble anyway

[wise bear]

ddr4 you can get away with 4 sticks

ddr5 you can not

[balmy plaza]

what :O

[wise bear]

Ram getting faster & faster every generation means its getting harder to drive

Why do you think some primo ddr5 motherboards only come with 2 slots? It's way better for perf

[zenith apex]

Ehh somewhat

Most motherboard gives shit speed at 4x

[wise bear]

I have 2 machines running 4 sticks rn at 3200, works fine

[pure garnet]

yeah i had 4x8 3200 on skylake

[zenith apex]

You probably got a decent board

[wise bear]

msi z490a, semi-decent

[zenith apex]

Mine limits to 2666 at 4x stick

[pure garnet]

z170 pro gaming aura 🔥🔥🔥

[wise bear]

My server does that but that's because it's a xeon and doesn't like 3200

hell the bios doesn't even have an option to change the speed

[balmy plaza]

motherboard spec says i can: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-MAX-WIFI/Specification

I think

[wise bear]

[pure garnet]

motherboard spec won’t make up for the imc not doing it past like 5200

if that even

[balmy plaza]

I wouldn't mind lowering the speed a little if it meant I get an additional 64gb of ram