tech-chat-2

[idle lodge]

just a malformed kernel upgrade, I dont think it was corruption since I only reflashed my emmc and not nvme ssd

[warped mountain]

Based on what exactly lol? You rage baiting again huh?

[wise bear]

Have you considered maybe that your drivetrain has issues because you drive a lot

[teal orbit]

only gmc owners would send a picture of 10 mpg and describe it with the word "good"

[wise bear]

My sister's buying a yukon and I'm just like "aight have fun spending half your budget in gas on your trips"

[warped mountain]

No unfortunately I bought this bad boy brand new off the lot and the issue started right around 1,000 miles on the first trip

[wise bear]

so.. why didn't you take it back to the dealer

[merry stirrup]

1.7 volts

[teal orbit]

dang $3.3 / gal is more than it is here for 91 octane

[pure garnet]

i miss the asus bios

[merry stirrup]

its so good man

[warped mountain]

I have... they have now gotten into a fight with general motors it's been off the road for 170 days and I bought this truck in January

and apparently GM refuses to pay the dealership with they are demanding and refuses to authorize the transmission replacement
the dealership refuses to replace an engine and then come back and have to do a transmission.

[merry stirrup]

i forgot i even had this board tbh then found it in a box

[pure garnet]

msi board didn’t ship so it’s likely i’ll just be home for it

[idle lodge]

there are certain models of EVs from BYU that can do 15-20 kwh/ 100km which on paper is good but the problem is unless you are in a dense urban area ev charging stations are seldom

[pure garnet]

uncommon slow shipping W

[merry stirrup]

im testin ur 3700x next

[warped mountain]

Only 18 cents of that is tax so I guess it's just what it costs, it's a LCOL so idk

[pure garnet]

my msi turkey plush is gonna be fire

[merry stirrup]

cutest lil mf in all the land

[warped mountain]

Last night I was forced to watch wild robot.... It was a shockingly good movie

[merry stirrup]

almost all of my nights consist of fucking with a computer

these thangs is fun

[pure garnet]

i have to be up at 6am so i’m just debating if i wanna be dumb or not

they’re playing the great gatsby at 12am outside

[merry stirrup]

oh lord

[pure garnet]

but that would leave me like ~4h of sleep

[merry stirrup]

hit that up

kyoko buy me some more bdie to bin cause mine isnt incredible

[steel stream]

i get why they did it but man that movie feels like a fever dream

[merry stirrup]

i cant get 4600 to pass man

[warped mountain]

Look at how long it holds the gears at 12% throttle...

[topaz veldt]

the coefficient is always too large

[teal orbit]

What are you calculating

[merry stirrup]

ycruncher, so pi

[teal orbit]

oh

that's still cool

[merry stirrup]

yah just kinda disappointing

[topaz veldt]

pi is 3.14 duh

[warped mountain]

It should be shifting at 1800 RPM or less.... 🫤

[merry stirrup]

im gonna keep fuckin with it until i get 4600 and hopefully 4800 orking

[teal orbit]

that seems like quite a quick acceleration to demand

[topaz veldt]

transmissions are adaptive

my 8 speed ZF does not shift at 1800 rpm

[teal orbit]

Does it shift faster when you accelerate slower than that

[topaz veldt]

hes talking about where in the rpm range it shifts not how fast it shifts

but its entirely adaptive its not some universal thing

[teal orbit]

I meant earlier not faster

[warped mountain]

No that's 10% throttle

[topaz veldt]

there are extremely nuanced alogrithms in modern ECU tuning

[teal orbit]

What if you accelerate even slower

:track

[hoary hatch]

Interesting

The Corsair crystal 570X has one of the best USB 3 19 pin cables I've ever used

[merry stirrup]

best of the worst connector = still bad

[steel stream]

my pathfinder SUV is the exact same as a 911 turbo trust

[warped mountain]

Not even remotely, we went from directly behind a car to probably 8 to 10 car lengths over the length of the video we're not even able to keep up with traffic at that acceleration rate.

[steel stream]

I'm ready to race

boogity boogity boogity let's go racing

[warped mountain]

You can't, anything under 10% throttle input it will upshift and then slow down while you're on the gas. (Because the factory map thinks the truck is able to make substantially more torque than it actually is)

[steel stream]

isn't your transmission fucked

[teal orbit]

I'm guessing that's the cause

otherwise refer to the magical idea of "closed loop fueling"

[warped mountain]

Nearly 4 inch stroke, 1,800RPM should be keeping up with traffic with ease, like it did fresh off the lot.

[topaz veldt]

stroke has nothing to do with anything at all

[warped mountain]

It struggles even at WOT 😭. Here I have my trims

[warped mountain]

Torque off idle.

[topaz veldt]

Additionally, that vehicle has cylinder deactivation - its not nearly as simple as what you're claiming

[teal orbit]

if your engine is deactivating cylinders at acceleration from idle you've got problems

[topaz veldt]

This is just short term and long term FUEL trims, nothing to do with transmission behavior adaptation

[warped mountain]

And when you watch the live data you can actually see the engine try to make 500 lb to torque and then get commanded to back down at wide open throttle to 260lb-ft input because anything over 100 RPM of transmission slip and it commands power back all the way down to 50% throttle.

[warped mountain]

It does not

[teal orbit]

They responded to me mentioning the closed loop fueling buzzword

[topaz veldt]

it does

[warped mountain]

They were saying it's the magical closed loop.

[topaz veldt]

what

[topaz veldt]

its not a buzzword...

[teal orbit]

because that would fix it if it was just the "factory map" being off, I was kinda just joking

[warped mountain]

I does not have any form of cylinder deactivation.

[topaz veldt]

But it does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djR6jTcFhag&t=592s

[warped mountain]

Explain. Because I know it doesn't

[topaz veldt]

It does

[warped mountain]

Proof?

[topaz veldt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gmcsierra/comments/1nwzli7/any_specific_brand_for_dfm_delete_2025_gmc_sierra/

lol

[teal orbit]

Somebody please just send the engine model code

[warped mountain]

Well 5.3 definitely doesn't have nearly a 4-in stroke

[topaz veldt]

what on earth are you hung up about the geometry for

@edgy laurel you gotta see this shit

[pure garnet]

what’s the nits to stroke ratio

[teal orbit]

integrate over the luminance of the air fuel mixture during combustion

[topaz veldt]

I am not even saying cylinder deactivation is your issue, but it does have it, and it does complicate things

[warped mountain]

And I wouldn't ever buy that overpriced POS 5.3 ... It's more expensive than the competition, makes less power, has a torque issue and they intentionally give it a small Cam that doesn't breathe up top to justify the $2,500 up charge for the 6.2 .... which is the most expensive engine upgrade in the half ton lineup... remember $2,500 ON TOP OF the $2,000 of charge to get a 5.3 instead of the 4 banger. 💀💀💀

And the 8 speed 💀

[teal orbit]

just get the 4banger :gigachad:

[topaz veldt]

this dude is out there

@warped mountain how many engines have you tuned?

[warped mountain]

Yeah it's really disgraceful what GM has done. The 5.3 was absolutely amazing in 2007 but it's gained very little power since then where is the trucks have gained nearly 30% in weight.

[warped mountain]

I don't have that engine either 😁

[teal orbit]

I have only badly un-tuned one (1) engine so far

[pure garnet]

the buick 3800 doesn’t have dfm so he probably has that

[warped mountain]

People buy these because they don't have it.

[topaz veldt]

I make 361 rwhp per liter, and this dude does this on every single topic

[warped mountain]

Dont talk trash, 3800 is a 400,000 mile GOAT, the transmission take the cars off the road ( assuming the intake manifold's been repaired 😅

[topaz veldt]

Like every. single. fucking. topic. is some nuanced special case "no one can understand the issues I have"

Knows everything about everything but has all the question

[teal orbit]

idek what is going on everyone is crazy

[warped mountain]

You still can't figure out what GM engine has NEVER came with DFM??

[hoary hatch]

Ruh roh

[merry stirrup]

raggy

[hoary hatch]

Power but no boot

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-fire-mood-scream-gif-12489711

[hoary hatch]

Oh I got bios'd

[topaz veldt]

I am not here to play "guess what finger I am holildng up behind my back" -- 2025 GMD Denalis have DFM

[merry stirrup]

always blame ram

[hoary hatch]

Wait that's windows
The fuck

[merry stirrup]

its like dns for computers...wait

[hoary hatch]

I assume XMP failed?

[warped mountain]

Not when they are L8T 's 🤡 that's what happens when you argue from a position of ignorance.

All you got to do is ask questions 💀💀💀

[hoary hatch]

I'm gonna riot

[topaz veldt]

I am not posting 1% fuel trims like there's some fucking problem lol

[steel stream]

jedec warrior

[warped mountain]

"Knows everything about everything but has all the question"

Huh that's awful kettle black no??

[topaz veldt]

Go enjoy your broken car that the dealer can't say is broken lol

[hoary hatch]

Maybe I inverted my stick order

[steel stream]

what is kettle black

[merry stirrup]

shoulda got an overpriced oc board

[topaz veldt]

Next week on KoolCordell: my toaster makes my toast darker than it says it should

[warped mountain]

Never said they were. I was showing that wasn't the issue. It's the transmission forcing power back down.

The transmission is forcing gearhold as well until it reaches its Target PSI in order to upshift.

[topaz veldt]

Then why haven't you fixed it

[pure garnet]

i get in my car and it drives

[warped mountain]

Oh no dealer has verified that it's broken, they just refuse to replace the engine because it's burning oil until after GM authorizes a transmission cuz they're not going to do it twice.

Especially with transmissions having an 8-month lead time 😭.

[teal orbit]

Found On Road Dead

[topaz veldt]

Good buy

[pure garnet]

i don’t own a ford

[warped mountain]

Because GM is currently trying to figure out how they're going to replace all these valve bodies from trucks that engage reverse at 70 mph and lock the rear wheels...

[topaz veldt]

The 4" stroke is really important here

[teal orbit]

What do you own

[hoary hatch]

I think my BIOS full reset

[merry stirrup]

probably

[pure garnet]

general motor

[topaz veldt]

lol

[teal orbit]

oh

[hoary hatch]

May as well update my bios if I have to reconfigure everything

[teal orbit]

Genuinely Messed up

I don't know

[merry stirrup]

12 tRRD_L (as to be safe since you have an 8k kit)
8 tRRD_S
49152 tREFI
32 tFAW

[hoary hatch]

Oh my, do I have physical clear CMOS button in rear IO

[steel stream]

oh good heavens! What a truly great gift from our lord

[teal orbit]

TOYOTA 1UR-FE

[hoary hatch]

What are the odds I tapped that during the motherboard install

[steel stream]

honestly pretty high

[hoary hatch]

I'm not asking what you're doing tonight, smh

[steel stream]

@merry stirrup I feel like you would be the type of guy to be into yo-yoing or card tricks

[steel stream]

ohhhhh shit my bad, nah like 50/50

[warped mountain]

Yep, GM knew about the 6.2 L issue in 2011 and has now just announced that it will cost him over 1 billion dollars.. 6.2 are problematic because they left trash in the engine and unfortunately these L8T engines are also known to have trash in them and that was what leads to the oil burning.

My issue is exasperated because my transmission pump was affected by the alignment issue, which is what the issue WAS, we can see it in the live data it takes over 15 seconds from a full torque load to hit full PSI.

Compared to another truck on the lot that does it in 4 seconds.

Since the transmission will not command a shift until there is sufficient PSI to conduct the shift that's why you have the issue that we have with the mpg.

[merry stirrup]

no just computers we've been over this

[warped mountain]

Yeah torque off idle.

[steel stream]

damn

[merry stirrup]

i like nature i like cars i like driving and racing

[steel stream]

none of those are yo-yoing or card tricks

[topaz veldt]

no

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately not

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[pure garnet]

i like magic does that count as a card trick

[merry stirrup]

guns are cool

[steel stream]

yeah i'll count that

[merry stirrup]

i played magic once does that count

[pure garnet]

yeah

[steel stream]

eh

[merry stirrup]

and some game called doomlings or something

also a card game

[steel stream]

yeah idk what that is

[merry stirrup]

FUCKCKK

okay well asus prime RTX 5070ti for sale, 650$

[steel stream]

now instead of having one shitty dragon on my GPU I can have two

[teal orbit]

my car makes clunking noises when I steer while its cold am I gonna die tomorrow

[merry stirrup]

that is a beautiful gpu

[pure garnet]

lucky pulled a baddie before you don’t be mad at him

[steel stream]

i've got you beat

[warped mountain]

Yep I put an order in for a Ford.

[teal orbit]

Give me a brake

[merry stirrup]

i would pay like 850$ for this

[teal orbit]

Just not that one

[steel stream]

you can have that one, my car didn't want it anymore

[pure garnet]

i’m pretty sure that’s the price on amazon rn

[merry stirrup]

youre dicking me down

[steel stream]

@edgy laurel

[merry stirrup]

okay well ill wait till employment and sell the other one and buy that

[warped mountain]

Considered RAM, but they're charging prices like the truck's brand new when it's actually from 2014 so that doesn't make any sense.

[merry stirrup]

please put that in the screenshots folder that would be hilarious

i didnt even process that i say things like that irl

obviously only to my homies lets be clear

[edgy laurel]

done. perfection.

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[steel stream]

nice

[topaz veldt]

That's nothing

[steel stream]

you probs said that to your boss

[warped mountain]

Crazy going from a top trim every option loaded Denali to this.

[merry stirrup]

💀

[steel stream]

https://youtu.be/eU5oe1HK2QA watched this last night with my roommate

[teal orbit]

How about this

[steel stream]

oh yeah that's not good lol

[warped mountain]

Umm yes... That's how bore to stroke works lol.

[lethal topaz]

does this have the 10 speed

[warped mountain]

Yes

[steel stream]

This is the same guy behind DankPods, but now this channel is just full of car gore

[lethal topaz]

what year?

[topaz veldt]

I have a 3.4" stroke and make more torque off idle, who gives a shit?

[warped mountain]

The Ford I ordered in the new 2026 color?

[lethal topaz]

oh they may have fixed it

[topaz veldt]

lol nope

Ford 10 speed is just as fucked

[lethal topaz]

well they patched with a bandaid

[warped mountain]

Awesome, this is a truck.

[merry stirrup]

ur a patched bandaid

[topaz veldt]

Prove it

[merry stirrup]

this is literally the weirdest bsod message ive seen

[topaz veldt]

Only trucks have stroke

[lethal topaz]

the 10 speeds are so fucked especially 2019-2023

[topaz veldt]

yuppppp

[pure garnet]

made of glass

[topaz veldt]

Its almost like domestic transmissions are shit

[teal orbit]

wouldn't both bore and stroke generally increase torque, as they both increase displacement

[lethal topaz]

and fire the guy who put that 10 speed in a fucking mustang

[warped mountain]

Yeah, but they don't back power down, or engage reverse on the highway .. they just slip, and you go get it replaced.

GM has the better physical design, Ford has the better tuning, and a gear hold mode to stop the excessive downshifting the GM's do.

[topaz veldt]

I have no idea why the dude is quoting stroke alone as if it is some sort of bellweather - compression, timing, cylinder pressure

[warped mountain]

Prove what?? That longer stroke makes more torque at a lower engine speed.

[steel stream]

i have never seen an underflow message, not even in my comp sci classes

[topaz veldt]

Yes they do - all modern ECUs are torque demand, Ford 10 speeds regulate power as well

[merry stirrup]

idk what an underflow even implies

[topaz veldt]

prove its a truck

[merry stirrup]

"yo shit too slow"

[steel stream]

value got too low in the register to do math maybe?

[merry stirrup]

ohh

https://tenor.com/view/frogs-gif-6645093505866891991

[lethal topaz]

you multiply cursed energy against itself to create positive energy

[warped mountain]

Yes, but it depends where in the RPM band. Big bore Short stroke is going to want to rev and make torque up top.

Long stroke narrow bore is a down low kid. It's square vs under/over square.

[teal orbit]

number too low and it wraps around to be very large positive number

some number...

[brisk jolt]

so think of it like 50 series hotspot temp

[merry stirrup]

do we know what voltage samsung bdie requires a maxmem

[warped mountain]

Ford does NOT close the throttle to 50% at customer commanded WOT to stop throwing a CEL.

It just slips and throws the CEL. Since you know that means it's broken.

[steel stream]

your best bet is asking this in a mirror

[merry stirrup]

this is real

[steel stream]

no one here can help you my friend I am sorry

[brisk jolt]

no sensor=255c ig

[merry stirrup]

there is a sensor and the card can see it

[topaz veldt]

OK bro is now a ford ecu tuner

[merry stirrup]

we cannot see the sensor its hidden to the user

the card knows how hot it is

everywhere

[steel stream]

there is no sensor in 50 series, there is no war in ba sing se

[hoary hatch]

Unlimited or Intel default

[merry stirrup]

extreme

[topaz veldt]

This is how ALL FUCKING ECUS WORK TODAY

[merry stirrup]

lets not remove all limits and just mostly remove
them thanks

[hoary hatch]

Wait really

[brisk jolt]

you know you want 4096w

[hoary hatch]

Bro wants me to throttle

[merry stirrup]

250ww is a lot of power

a 265K isnt hitting that on stock

[brisk jolt]

flop’s 13900 IMC situation

[topaz veldt]

Guess what? My BMW closes the throttle when the TCU senses too much torque too GASP omg its almost like its an algorithm

[teal orbit]

i think that's right at tdp?

[merry stirrup]

yes

[topaz veldt]

Maybe if the stroke was 4" it'd work

[steel stream]

fuck you bud I can't do math and using algorithms makes me feel not included /s

[merry stirrup]

so one would theorize that unless carter dailies cinebench and ycruncher that 250w is ok

[teal orbit]

I daily furmark so I'd be OK too

[topaz veldt]

its just hilarious to see the dudes laptop/tablet/cell phone logic applied to tuning

[hoary hatch]

So Intel default

[teal orbit]

It's not raptor so I don't think it'd be absurd even at unlimited

[brisk jolt]

i saw laptop, thought of cordell being a nuke and here he is typing

[teal orbit]

My 13700k draws like 320w in prime95 when set to unlimited

[merry stirrup]

[teal orbit]

But my 265k is fine

[merry stirrup]

its not, you have to be kinda trying

[topaz veldt]

which one of these tubes is the 4" stroke tube

[warped mountain]

To HALF? no bro. At 2500RPM?? Yeah, not up top 💀💀.

[lethal topaz]

the one in my ass

[topaz veldt]

Yes. At any point. Its called torque management. You have no idea what you're talking about

[hoary hatch]

Ugh

I have to Google 200s boost settings

[merry stirrup]

my r23 unlocked power draw

[merry stirrup]

3.2 on ngu and d2d, yw

[warped mountain]

GASP this is continuously. Literally they're backing down the throttle to hold the transmission at 150 RPM slip because at 250RPM it throws a check engine light...

I've had it slip at 150 RPM for over a minute straight while wide open throttle trying to pull a hill and watch the transmission go from 120° to 265

[brisk jolt]

ngl I’d be down to get a manual GR corolla/yaris for a funny fun first car

[lethal topaz]

also ford doesnt make an I6? what is this image from

[brisk jolt]

3 cylinder pocket rocket

[teal orbit]

expensive af though, isn't it

[half hinge]

my pc parts are almost all here 🤩 just the CPU cooler and PSU left

[lethal topaz]

i dont think theres anyone that wouldnt share this sentiment

[half hinge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CB9MSJ5N is this a good psu?

[lethal topaz]

gr corolla is goated and everyone knows it

[warped mountain]

He said to the mechanic with 16 years of experience ...

[brisk jolt]

car pricing here in sgp alr fucked up

[hoary hatch]

Wtf gboard

[topaz veldt]

Mechanics don't tune goober

[hoary hatch]

@merry stirrup ring clock?

[warped mountain]

No bro, that's NOT what's happening.

[teal orbit]

wish I had an s2000

[brittle trellis]

Your insurance would fuck you hard having that as a first car

[lethal topaz]

just move to new hampshire

[brittle trellis]

A new driver should not be driving a GR anything

[lethal topaz]

thats all they have going for them is no required insurance

[warped mountain]

No but mechanics know that when you say "what's the 4-in stroke tube??" that you're being a 🤡

[brisk jolt]

true
its between a pocket rocket or still a reliable toyota or maybe a civic

[topaz veldt]

Yeah dude the guy at pep boys knows engine building

[brittle trellis]

Mate you are absolutely clueless sometimes

[topaz veldt]

Which one of these wires is the 4" stroke wire

[brittle trellis]

Just get a normal corolla hybrid If you insist on buying something new/newish

[teal orbit]

everyone just shut up and buy a haltech ecu and cry as you learn how to tune everything from scratch

[topaz veldt]

I run motec

[brisk jolt]

nah if im going down the corolla path im going used

[steel stream]

yall think they hate on the grinch all year round in whoville or only at christmas

[hoary hatch]

Floppa died

[warped mountain]

About what exactly. Snail is trolling again, trying to rage bait and feel superior 🤷. But he forgot to ask questions, proved he was an idiot arguing from ignorance, and is now retaliating.

[teal orbit]

Wtf based

[brittle trellis]

Why cry? Their knowledge base is great and they'll even help if you call them

[topaz veldt]

But I have no clue what I am doing with engines

[teal orbit]

because tuning is hard as shit

[topaz veldt]

I have a 2.9L making over 1048 rwhp lol

[warped mountain]

Who that's exactly that you are talking about??

[teal orbit]

me neither, i'm trying to help my college's formula sae team and we have a motec m130

[warped mountain]

See lol Snail is just rage trolling. ... I hope ... Maybe he is actually that dense.

[topaz veldt]

Yes I am really dense I don't know anything

[brittle trellis]

I sense a skill issue

[merry stirrup]

auto it should figure itself out i dont think 200S affects ring

[topaz veldt]

I got the dev licensing 🙂

[brisk jolt]

I honestly wouldnt focus on the engine at all- I’d be focusing on the suspension and underbody- Theres basically nowhere in singapore where you’d take advantage of more horses

[warped mountain]

Admitting it is the first step to overcoming it 🫂 I'm here for your bro if you want to talk or maybe learn some things

[merry stirrup]

i was getting a plate of food sorry

[teal orbit]

that is correct because i can't get the skill until doing it to learn

[topaz veldt]

you are so out of your league little dude

[teal orbit]

we have a dev license but don't know where it is or what computer it's on

[steel stream]

you must be on call 24/7 here we know you don't have a j*b

[brisk jolt]

say it out loud dont censor

[brittle trellis]

Buy me an R3 and I'll teach myself and then teach you 😉

[warped mountain]

Says the guy who asked "what is the 4 inch stroke wire" unironically... Kay

[half hinge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CB9MSJ5N is this a good psu? 🙏

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel he thinks I am serious

[brittle trellis]

Hint: it wasn't unironic

[teal orbit]

try motec m130 because that's what we have

[dapper junco]

yea its fine

[brisk jolt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview#gid=1973454078 go check urself

[lethal topaz]

didnt realize my 7 year old bluetooth adapter on my mobo supports LDAC

[half hinge]

great thanks!

[topaz veldt]

I am still learning engines forgive me

[brittle trellis]

I'd rather die than learn motec

[teal orbit]

is it bad??

[topaz veldt]

The fun part is that I have an adapter harness to go between motec and link

[teal orbit]

i watch the haltech tutorials and then read the help pages in motec to translate

[brittle trellis]

Ah I see your issue here, it's a BMW

[warped mountain]

I assume you are at this point, then go LOL just kidding when you realized you were outclassed.

"It definitely has DFM 😵‍💫😵‍💫"

🤣🤣 Bro didn't even bother to Google, just went on a bender then changed gears to attack mode 💀💀💀

[topaz veldt]

I am outclassed? lord almighty

[brittle trellis]

Please stop digging your grave deeper

[topaz veldt]

I think I found the name for my boat

[teal orbit]

is it bad or good when the machined mating surface looks like carbon fiber

[warped mountain]

You were ADAMANT that it had dfm. You have still yet to admit you were wrong, because you ASSumed. Without asking

[teal orbit]

bro ASS-umed

[edgy laurel]

I have not been paying attention

[steel stream]

don't start

[teal orbit]

me neither

[steel stream]

run GFUilty run

[edgy laurel]

I’m not, getting in bed

[topaz veldt]

because all you said was you have a 2025 Denali. That's it. I am not here to play games.

Also I don't actually give a shit, DFM is not the issue

I was making the point that there are way more variables involved than "torque"

And you're arguing with someone who has built multiple 8 second vehicles from engine to ECU to tune

[merry stirrup]

just listened to buildzoid have a stroke trying to find am4 d4 info

[teal orbit]

everyone talks about whether torque vs power is better but no one asks how the poor dude "mechanical work" is feeling

[warped mountain]

No no I actually NEVER said that. You assumed that.

[topaz veldt]

You literally said "I ordered this car in January its a full trim Denali" LOL yes you did

Given its 2025, January is 2025. You have a 2025 Denali, which, does have DFM

[warped mountain]

No I said I took delivery

[topaz veldt]

I don't care lol

[steel stream]

i am currently looking at r/flashlights

[steel stream]

digornio?

[topaz veldt]

You didn't provide and engine code goober

Good luck with your new truck which is also known to have transmission issues, maybe you can teach those engineers too

[warped mountain]

Dude, this is what I am talking about you're so double down you didn't even read.

L8T does not have dfm and never has!

Wanna go back to class on that one?

[steel stream]

if they're anything like the engineers I see in my classes they def need some more schooling

[topaz veldt]

What part of "You never said what engine your vehicle has" doesn't make sense?

[warped mountain]

Actually yes I did I even replied to you, you chose to ignore it because that meant that you were wrong and you just couldn't handle that that's the behavior that I'm seeing out of you why don't you go ahead and go back to blocking me and you can move on with your life.

[topaz veldt]

Maybe I ignored it because I have you on block, and welcome back. You're the only person on it lol.

[topaz veldt]

Enjoy your fucked up car that you know everything about lol

[warped mountain]

Here you go receipts

#tech-chat-2 message

Lol what a 🤡

[steel stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/1osfk3q/finally_some_fog_out_couldnt_stop_myself_from/

[topaz veldt]

Why do I engage this goofball

[warped mountain]

Ran his mouth that whole time and was dead wrong, flexed irrelevant shit, and was still wrong, was given the engine code, and ... Yep STILL wrong

[teal orbit]

just buy a J35, it has VCM

argument solved

[warped mountain]

Lol, it's tragic at this point

[topaz veldt]

I am actually ZF8HP swapping my E34

[steel stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/1p3z6z5/wanted_a_silver_flashlight_but_im_broke/ I found ET

[warped mountain]

And just like always goes on the personal attack like "oh you must work at pep boys" nah bro, Master mechanic 16 years, don't even play with me.

[teal orbit]

oh

[warped mountain]

Any who. Technology is amazing!

[teal orbit]

i can't say the engine might not kill itself

[topaz veldt]

what engine

[teal orbit]

J35 with vcm

just don't look at the recent service bulletins from like 6 months ago

[topaz veldt]

I dOnT hAvE vCm!11

[teal orbit]

my mom has it

[topaz veldt]

yeah all that business is bad news

I always code anything like that out

[warped mountain]

Yeah just like how L8T have DFM/AFM right lol

[topaz veldt]

If you want to see an exercise in futility, check out BMW ESYS

[brittle trellis]

If you want to see an exercise in futility, check out BMW

[topaz veldt]

Not even close

@brittle trellis I assure you my 1000 hp car has had less maintenance than your daily driver

[brittle trellis]

yours has maintenance?

[topaz veldt]

yeah sometimes i put gas in it

[brittle trellis]

[brittle trellis]

How many factory issues were fixed when you built the engine?

[warped mountain]

Oh 🤬 he's a BNW owner 😭 and not JUST a BMW owner .. one of THOSE BMW owners. 😵‍💫

[teal orbit]

Oh 🤬 he's a BNW owner 😭 and not JUST a BMW owner .. one of THOSE BMW owners. 😵‍💫

[hoary hatch]

Hmm idk if I'm feeling these vibes anymore

[teal orbit]

is this built in ecu modding?

[topaz veldt]

No joke I had a car with the same base engine (less all the horsepower) and I put 275k miles on that car, its like the chevy 350 of BMW... I replaced spark plugs and belts... like, totally.

[brittle trellis]

Only 275k miles?

[warped mountain]

It's okay tho ... L8T gotta have DFM since Snail said so ... I'll let the engineers know at GM that built it 🤣🤣

[topaz veldt]

@brittle trellis I currently have 4 BMWs 2015+ and literally have had no issues

[teal orbit]

bros still on that

[teal orbit]

B58 is cheating though

[topaz veldt]

I had an E46 I took to 350k miles - I lent it to my sister and the rad expansion tank cracked, no coolant for like 20 miles... and it STILL didn't die lol.

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[topaz veldt]

My B58 is stock

[teal orbit]

the b58 is too reliable and doesn't fit in with the 'bmw is unreliable' narrative

[topaz veldt]

You gotta realize this dude deliberated laptops for 9 weeks

[topaz veldt]

I have an N55 too, no issues there

[viscid canyon]

Heyy so i just upgraded from am4 to am5 and theres nothing displaying after i leave the bios screen? Does anyone know this issue?

[teal orbit]

that's what i would've done

nothing wrong with a little decision paralysis

[warped mountain]

It's literally hilarious to me. The guy that was all 😵‍💫just use Google😵‍💫 didn't bother to Google

[topaz veldt]

@teal orbit I actually have an N26, N55s, had an S55, B58 now, and then a bunch of S50/S52s with boost and literally flawless

[brittle trellis]

Imagine needing 6.6 litres

[topaz veldt]

Yeah i am so dumb

[warped mountain]

Lol 5-7th is also nine weeks. Bro forgot to use his fingers to count

[topaz veldt]

Ha omg look how dumb i am

what an idiot I didn't know his VIN number dumb me

[warped mountain]

🤣🤣 this is literally hilarious because he has me blocked and I'm giving him every opportunity to be like "oops I made a mistake, I'm sorry" and he just keeps going on and on 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[topaz veldt]

and still get smoked by a 2.9L

[warped mountain]

Here you go snail, receipts

#tech-chat-2 message

[topaz veldt]

Its like every control unit modding

body , tcu, etc

When I put BBK on my car it brakes horrrribly

[lethal topaz]

you should buy a thermaltake core p3 and turn ur pc into a coffee table

[teal orbit]

i need a bmw

[topaz veldt]

it felt like master/slave cyl mismatch for BBK piston count

[warped mountain]

E39 M5

[steel stream]

it is acceptable

[topaz veldt]

but you actually have to go into ESYS and code the car to have different dimension brakes, it actually adjusts valving int he brake module to account for caliper piston displacement

[brittle trellis]

6.6 litres just to get 629nm torque at 4000rpm

[steel stream]

i need a 911 Carrera

[topaz veldt]

no

[lethal topaz]

996 generation is only like 20k

[topaz veldt]

There's a reason

[brittle trellis]

Less torque than a twin turbo 1VD

[lethal topaz]

first water cooled engine😃

[teal orbit]

i only use freedom unit torques

[hoary hatch]

Uh, no

[hoary hatch]

Ugh maybe

[warped mountain]

Bear in mind it is the continuous rating.
In light duty vehicles they are not rated for continuous use, meaning you can't hold them at peak horsepower, or peak torque indefinitely.
Hell even the factory Diesel's going to power back down after 30 seconds of full power.

[steel stream]

996 is the generation from my birth year but man those headlights are FUGLY

[hoary hatch]

I did order that other case

[lethal topaz]

okay but then look at the rear

[topaz veldt]

my 996 tt leaked at the IMS... my 997 had issues out the ass

[lethal topaz]

yeah you fix IMS bearing immediately and boom you have a 911

believe it or not a 911 still drives like a 911... no matter the generation

[brittle trellis]

Sucks to suck. Toyota's twin turbo 1VD produces 650nm at 1600 and carrys it through to 2800 and will do it all day every day

[topaz veldt]

I was looking at a 992 turbo s and kinda glad i didn't... though some days of regret

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah wwe bios updating

[lethal topaz]

okay then get a thermaltake core p3 and put your pc on the wall

[warped mountain]

Buy yeah the torque isn't very good, they gave it a baby cam they have a real cam version of it that makes over 500 pound feet of torque call the L8P

[topaz veldt]

well after the IMS I had literally every other issue a 996 TT in yellow would have

It was possibly the most clapped out 996 TT, but I thought I could bring it back

[lethal topaz]

well theres your problem

[steel stream]

well damn I quite liked the 997 and that sucks to hear lol

[topaz veldt]

It had all the coolant leaks you read about

[warped mountain]

Whoops too fast with the fingers

[hoary hatch]

@floppa 265k package 82W in HFW

[topaz veldt]

Did you ever see my 997?

[hoary hatch]

What did I do

[steel stream]

maybe once?

[topaz veldt]

I have like 3 photos ever - one is parked in my old garage with all the plastic windows and GT3 wing

[lethal topaz]

wait what tax bracket are you in

[warped mountain]

It's a diesel, it will slam into its EGT limits at 1600RPM when siting loaded at full fuel.

[topaz veldt]

A piece of a bridge in philly fell off and hit the windshield - bent the a pillar, broke the windshield, and broke the passenger side window - so I said fuck it we now have a track car

[topaz veldt]

the one morons get who don't know anything

[steel stream]

well damn lol

[brittle trellis]

America's inability to tune a diesel properly shall not be projected onto Toyota engines

[topaz veldt]

Yeah.... insurance totalled it out because of the extend of damage on the body

[brittle trellis]

The new 3.3 litre V6 diesel does 700nm

[warped mountain]

Ahh gif didn't gif 💀here is a normal.one

[topaz veldt]

I bought it back and put lexan windows in it

[steel stream]

got it

[topaz veldt]

Then I I uh

oil+coolant at pocono

bumped a guard rail but sent the front strut through the tower. I had enough lol

[steel stream]

911 is just my dream car, but i gotta have 5nail level money for that one

[topaz veldt]

and that was the last porsche I had

[steel stream]

rip

[topaz veldt]

Buuuuuut before I bought my boat I was looking at that 2021 it hink 911 Turbo S

[warped mountain]

Your talking about this engine??

[steel stream]

yah i remember, boat was better move tbh

[topaz veldt]

but it didn't work out and I am mostly ok with that

[brittle trellis]

So you have one that make a little more than the number I found? Well done, it's still shit numbers for a 6.6 litre

[topaz veldt]

yeah i think so

[steel stream]

you've had nice cars for a while now, boat is more fun for whole family

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats the thing that made it easy for my wife - we can all go on a boat

my kids still have not been in my green or red cars

[brittle trellis]

Petrol pickups shouldn't exist, fight me

[topaz veldt]

eh i have had a couple - good for moving shit

[steel stream]

ik the green one, i don't think I've seen the red one

[topaz veldt]

but i have also had a couple F250s 6.0s also

[warped mountain]

Yeah, its a gasoline engine that's normally aspirated.

[topaz veldt]

my red one is my E30 M3 swap

[brittle trellis]

dumb vehicle that shouldn't exist

[topaz veldt]

E30, w/ M3 swap

[warped mountain]

Here is out idea of a diesel... It's the lowest power in class. But also 6.6

[topaz veldt]

as opposed to E30 M3... which I did have and sold foolishly

[warped mountain]

$20k to replace fuel injectors when you get shitty fuel (not covered under warranty) a long block is $35,000, AND it's double per mile in maintenance.

[brittle trellis]

now THAT is a pickup engine.... Make a smaller version and put it in the current petrol models

[brittle trellis]

Sucks to suck

[topaz veldt]

Its funny how domestic boring vehicles have more issues than BMWs

yet everyone bashes BMWs

[brittle trellis]

Doesn't cost 20k to replace injectors on a 1VD

[topaz veldt]

My buddy was over with his procharged S550 Mustang and its got some terrible transmission noise on the stupid 10 speed

[brittle trellis]

the whole engine doesn't even cost that much

[teal orbit]

american cars moment?

[brittle trellis]

I can get a new long block 1VD for like 20k NZD

[topaz veldt]

I can get an N55 long block for that

[brittle trellis]

And also bad fuel fucking things is covered by insurance here usually

[topaz veldt]

diesel is always a wildcard here in the US

[brittle trellis]

if America didn't suck ya'll would have Toyota diesels

[topaz veldt]

all the modern diesels have incredibly hilarious lubrication issues

[topaz veldt]

no we'd have BWM diesels

[steel stream]

it's because we locked up Diddy! Our foremost expert!

[topaz veldt]

"i just keep a lot of baby oil around"

[brittle trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/pernalonga-meme-pernalonga-no-no-não-nao-gif-27211143

[topaz veldt]

They are kind of sick

[steel stream]

"it's totally for the cars man"

[topaz veldt]

I almost bought my wife an X5 35d

[brittle trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/pernalonga-meme-pernalonga-no-no-não-nao-gif-27211143

[topaz veldt]

I bet you guys can't see your exhaust valves from your fender well

[steel stream]

Oh shit, my grandpa is visiting from germany this week and told me a story. Some guy near him bought a super nice mercedes (2nd hand) for maybe 70-80k euro, but kept having braking issues. He took it to the shop, and found that that someone replaced the brakepads with carved pieces of wood

[brittle trellis]

Why does your car have a hole in it

[steel stream]

i gotta see if he has a photo or smth, but crazy work

[topaz veldt]

speed holes

[brittle trellis]

Smh this man is still living in the past with his non-electronic wastegates

[topaz veldt]

My wastegates almost don't even do anything lol

[wraith steeple]

[teal orbit]

why turbo, just build bigger engine

20L V12 DOHC

[warped mountain]

Unfortunately that's the realities of diesel in the USA

"regular $2.70/gallon Diesel $3.04 (this is very tight between the 2, normally diesel would be $3.51)

to recoup $15,000 upfront cost it would take 187,000 miles at 16,000lbs (typical max load for SRW's due to payload) gas getting 7 MPG, diesel getting 10MPG

Running empty take 938,000 miles to break even... gas getting 16 mpg diesel getting 19.9 mpg

Now let's be clear we're not including DEF, we're not including the more expensive maintenance per mile, or anything else. We are also assuming that diesel fuel is only 11% more expensive, not the usual 20% it is"

[warped mountain]

This is a top tier comment fr

[topaz veldt]

always turbo

[lethal topaz]

diesel used to be cheaper before states realized they could increase the price of it to ease road taxes on consumers

[warped mountain]

Here it is taxed the exact same. It's STILL more expensive.

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/good-burger-some-of-these-gif-12933391

[topaz veldt]

I may have had my tank dipped a few times in my life

[lethal topaz]

go behind the local wendys and steal their fryer grease lol

[warped mountain]

Nice, the long blocks with no labor is $19-$25k for one that has a REAL (not 90 day) warranty! The rest is labor

[topaz veldt]

i had a friend in the bmw scene doing that - constant filter changes

[lethal topaz]

yeah sounds about right

was the filters cheaper than the miles he got out of it?

[warped mountain]

You refine it first, running straight used vegetable oil is a pain, unless old school non turbo idi.

[topaz veldt]

i dunno - it didn't last long - he was from upstate ny, came down here like once doing it

He filtered it and all but it doesn't really matter, its gross

simmer on low until reduced

[half hinge]

Hey monitor-heads, is this a good price and good display??
https://www.amazon.com/KOORUI-Mini-LED-Computer-Adjustable-DisplayPort/dp/B0FDGLD4X3/

[turbid locust]

it's a monitor for sure

realistically can you spend more

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH/ cause this mf would change your life

I know it's kind of an ask to almost double your monitor budget

but thats at least 4x the monitor the one you linked is

[ember hill]

give me a good opinion for me to make it better a 7800x3d b650 asus tuf motherboard 32gb of trident z5 5060 8gb hyte y60 1000W power supply a 2tb m.2 and a msi mag core liquid a13 360 aio this is for my next streaming build and the one i stream on right now is 7 or 8 years old

[merry stirrup]

5060 8gb and a 7800x3d

[ember hill]

yea

[merry stirrup]

clearly a useful allocation of your budget

i am actually done responding at this point i read the rest of the message its equally bad

[ember hill]

what u mean

[merry stirrup]

you dont want to know

[ember hill]

tell me

[merry stirrup]

homie, the crack youre smoking to pick those parts must be some fucking heisenberg shit

[ember hill]

why u say that

[low sorrel]

hear me out https://www.ebay.com/itm/277040332428?toolid=10001&customid=af5fc838c97a11f097502a3b3b97d4ce0INT

[merry stirrup]

why wouldnt i

[ember hill]

just tell me why those are the wrong combo of parts

[half hinge]

WTF OLED FOR 400?!?!?

[merry stirrup]

run me through the thought process on the gpu, cpu, power supply choices

[low sorrel]

yeah welcome to 2025

[merry stirrup]

no explain your thought process so i dont have to be as mean

[low sorrel]

380 oled at costco

[brisk jolt]

it goes something the lines of "ooga booga"

[ember hill]

i just want u to be completely honest

[half hinge]

4k gaming 😂 get me out of here 😂 do you think my $700 NVIDIA GPU can run 4k at 160Hz 😂 😂 😂 /s

[merry stirrup]

just tell me your budget for the pc nad where you live

the budget in your native currency

[low sorrel]

a 5070ti would do 4k fine

[merry stirrup]

yes

[merry stirrup]

@steel stream source

@pure garnet too

[brisk jolt]

our only specimen going against was Mac

5070ti to 5090 bcs bf6

[low sorrel]

I'm 50/50 for going for this on a 3060

[merry stirrup]

mf i need a dollar amount and a country

[ember hill]

the us and trying to keep it around 1600 max

[merry stirrup]

thank you

[half hinge]

seriously? i was under the impression it wouldn't 4k 160fps at max settings (without MFG)

[hoary hatch]

Sold out

[merry stirrup]

will come back

[half hinge]

Damn it

[half hinge]

Yay

[low sorrel]

depends on the game

[turbid locust]

DLSS makes 4K free, even without frame gen

[pure garnet]

well step one for 4k in general is give up on maxing every slider brainrot

[half hinge]

AAA in 2025

[low sorrel]

but sidenote max settings are a scam

[pure garnet]

but yeah i’ve had no issues

[low sorrel]

dlss quality

like a normal human being

[half hinge]

Well... i've always been more of a 1440p guy anyways.. you guys reckon 4k is worth it?

[brisk jolt]

use 4k DLSS balanced and it still looks good

[low sorrel]

im going be on dlss performance 💀

[half hinge]

Nooooooo how could you take this away from me Costco

[brisk jolt]

haha miniled ahahaha sit down ahahahaha /j

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r6Lyv4

enjoy

[turbid locust]

Been on 4K for awhile personally.

[brisk jolt]

i havent checked up on 4k monitor prices esp woled ones

[hoary hatch]

4K FSR3 performance + FSR frame gen

[turbid locust]

im on a 5090 now but my 7900XTX and 5070Ti were doing fine

[low sorrel]

bout 1k

for woled

[half hinge]

is it good? i have some benefits other than just gaming to getting a 4k display but i'm not convinced that it would run super well

[brisk jolt]

im not in the united states of america/usb

[merry stirrup]

usb

[low sorrel]

nevermind i lied

[turbid locust]

any game with upscaling nowadays if you can run 1440p well, you can run 4K well.

[pure garnet]

i think within like 30 minutes of owning a 4k monitor i was sold on it

[turbid locust]

1440p is just DLSS Quality at 4K

[brisk jolt]

i just realised if i got a 32' monitor my table would have no space for my cup

[half hinge]

is DLSS quality that good?

[merry stirrup]

yes

[low sorrel]

yes

[turbid locust]

I literally cant tell the difference between Quality and native

[low sorrel]

nearly impossible to tell from TAA

[half hinge]

i'm sold, what's 4k OLED prices looking like

[pure garnet]

32 foot monitor is crazy

[low sorrel]

too much

[brisk jolt]

ikr

[turbid locust]

expensive lol

[half hinge]

Never mind I'm no longer sold

[turbid locust]

I bought a TV instead

[half hinge]

Take me back to $380 OLED please

[low sorrel]

heyyy this exists and it's within your orginal budget https://www.ebay.com/itm/277040332428?toolid=10001&customid=af5fc838c97a11f097502a3b3b97d4ce0INT

[half hinge]

You guys think it'll come back? Black Friday is literally this week

[low sorrel]

no

[pure garnet]

i wouldn’t buy a 1440p oled

triangle pixels leads to extra funky text

[low sorrel]

@pallid marsh

is this true?

[half hinge]

I hate refurbished because I like losing money

I might look into it yeah, thanks

[low sorrel]

so kyoko appoxmenity how bright would 1700 nits be at night with my blackout curtians down

[topaz veldt]

its like BAM bright

like.. WHOA BAM pow

its like 4" stroke of brightness

[low sorrel]

so counter strike flashbangs become irl flashbangs

[warped mountain]

Lol bro is Soo cooked

Well done

[low sorrel]

excuse me it can draw 210w?

thats more then my 3060

[topaz veldt]

like close your eyes

and then open them.... into the core of the sun

[low sorrel]

aight so sounds like something ill do once then never again?

cool so it arrives between now and never

[topaz veldt]

lol

like my 5090 tuf oc

[hoary hatch]

The Costco one? Unlikely

[half hinge]

[hoary hatch]

Just the way Costco stocks stuff....I don't think they're getting more

[topaz veldt]

yeah Costco is rough for predicting inventory

they might just have a big lot of an item and then when its gone its gone

[hoary hatch]

Pretty much mean it's never coming back

[low sorrel]

theres also this https://www.ebay.com/itm/306538374343?

[half hinge]

that does look nice

that's more than the damn 4k monitor 😭 and it's still refurb

[merry stirrup]

saw this gem

fclk is the interconnect betwween your cpu and gpu clearly

[low sorrel]

i thought it was bclk and was like i mean kinda

but uhh fclk...

[pallid marsh]

I haven't noticed

[half hinge]

do i need to worry about GPU sag with a 5070 ti? (PNY OC)

[merry stirrup]

is it sagging?

[low sorrel]

@shell void valorant been going

[merry stirrup]

but you probably wont have to no

but i would spend the 8$ on a gpu sag bracket to be smart

[low sorrel]

lego

lego lego lego lego lego lego lego lego

[pallid marsh]

I use a shoelace to hold up my GPU

[merry stirrup]

i use vertical gpu

[low sorrel]

i used hopes and prayers for a month

[merry stirrup]

no sag evar

[low sorrel]

i left the gpu screw out

[merry stirrup]

bruh

[low sorrel]

thinking of which

is that why my old motherboard died an early death?

[slim solstice]

I don't have gpu

[slim solstice]

I think the only thing that would have happened is your pcie slot being ripped off or one of the legs came up from the stress

[vestal granite]

literally cannot win with Windows

[lethal topaz]

Losedows

[vestal granite]

i either use linux on desktop and get destroyed by every possible problem on the planet or i use windows and my network driver stops working randomly and i have to go into device manager and disable -> enable it

[lethal topaz]

you dont have control panel pinned to taskbar yet?

[topaz veldt]

is it intel i225

[vestal granite]

how would i go about figuring that out

[merry stirrup]

look at the name in device manager

[topaz veldt]

what board is it

[vestal granite]

B550-A Pro

[topaz veldt]

looks like realtek

Inte i225v whatever had funky issues

[ripe flicker]

rate my case, it's tecware timber M

[merry stirrup]

a north clone/10

[vestal granite]

its just so annoying because its other machines on my network aswell so i feel like its just some stupid shit from my ISP router

but only windows machines

[topaz veldt]

oh

weird

[ripe flicker]

tbf it's cheaper

[topaz veldt]

set your IPs to manual?

[vestal granite]

tried that, also disabled IPv6

[topaz veldt]

when it happens can you ping the router/anything

[vestal granite]

it disconnects from the network entirely

and this is on ethernet

[topaz veldt]

like cable unpugged

[vestal granite]

yeah like cable unplugged little globe

[topaz veldt]

that just mneans no internet

does the link light stay lit

when it happens next ping your gateway

[vestal granite]

ill check next time it happens (i can make it happen by opening a steam game and closing it a few times so 1 sec)

[merry stirrup]

god damn

now thats an apex

[vestal granite]

event viewer whenever the issue appears always sends just this:

its just weird to me that its happening on only windows devices on my network with different network cards and different ethernet cables and sometimes on wireless connections. so i can only chalk it up to a ISP router issue and hope to eventually find a random setting somewhere in control panel that fixes it because if it works on linux then its probably a setting somewhere that windows doesnt have set by default

[half hinge]

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4ZD-Monitor-Compatible-Zero-Bright-Dot/dp/B0DQVP7TNH This looks really good but it's only HDR 400?

[minor herald]

it is for the apu's

[half hinge]

OH WAIT IT'S TRUE BLACK 400

[low sorrel]

oled can't get as bright as mini leds

[half hinge]

anyone got recommendations for good graphics?

game recommendations

[merry stirrup]

isnt that like an oled thing inherently

[half hinge]

i mean it's an oled monitor

[merry stirrup]

yeah thts what im saying

[half hinge]

Oh

[merry stirrup]

meow

[half hinge]

just realized the other one wasn't OLED. i'll definitely look into that.

Is OLED so much better than Mini-LED? I was under the impression that Mini-LED was "the OLED killer"

[low sorrel]

@steel stream

[low sorrel]

response times

[half hinge]

Oh I'm not a pro gamer I don't need 1ms response times 😭 unless it's adding a second of input lag is it really that bad?

[merry stirrup]

allows a display to feel smoother than the refresh would seem

[half hinge]

Oh I hadn't thought of that

[merry stirrup]

its not 1ms, its like 0.05ms

[half hinge]

between 1ms to 0.03ms... that much of a diff?

[merry stirrup]

well your 1ms monitor is not 1ms

[half hinge]

Oh yes I heard about the two different response times or whatever it was

[merry stirrup]

your lcd monitor (and probably oleds) measure pixel response times via changing colors from 1 tone of gray to another, this is called G2G

[low sorrel]

my "1ms" monitor is more like 10ms

[merry stirrup]

yah

while oleds are generally under 1ms at all times p sure

i was talking about it before really thinking about it when i got my oled

[low sorrel]

yeah

floppa now you make me wanna cough up the extra gundred for an oeld

[merry stirrup]

worth

[low sorrel]

but not 4k

and no 1700 nit sustained brightness in a 50% window

[merry stirrup]

L+ratio+perfect blacks+360hz

[low sorrel]

let me know when it's 259.99

[half hinge]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/306538374343 you guys reckon this is good? never bought anything refurbished before

[merry stirrup]

yes

prolyl jsut fine, ebay has excellent buyer protection

[low sorrel]

floppa have you ever had a game freeze for 40 secodns when you alt tab in borderless windowed

[merry stirrup]

no

[low sorrel]

it happens once or twice a week and it's mildly annoying

also have you ever had discord split in two with the top half frozen and the bottom half working specifcally when you alt tab a borderless windowed game

[idle lodge]

better than amazon lol

[half hinge]

so reluctant to shell out so much money on a monitor after buying a new PC. maybe next year.

[idle lodge]

wait until you find a monitor you like new/open box on Ebay, usually they are minimally used if you look for the ones in excellent condition, you can save more compared to new in box

thats how I got mine

[low sorrel]

have you ever had the rest of your pc go down to one fps expect for your game when you alt tab in borderless windowed

i think i notice a theme with my problems

[half hinge]

this one is refurbished. it's a great price for an OLED but it's just a lot of money still

[idle lodge]

yeah OLEDs are pricey, but I think its worth it since its no match vs LCD, but if you want there are definitely good LCDs out there

[half hinge]

i already have a decent LCD monitor. just want an upgrade and the old one can become my secondary

[idle lodge]

sounds good, best of luck on that

[half hinge]

Guys I could get an OLED monitor for 274.99 but it'd take forever to ship

[low sorrel]

WHERE

LINK

[low sorrel]

gimme link

i want it

[half hinge]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256810177459709.html with USBF58 for $58 off

I'm not sure about Aliexpress but I've heard good things at least in the MK hobby

[low sorrel]

I trust aliexpress for many things but me personally uhh

monitors isn't one

[fervent plover]

yeah no

dont buy monitors from aliexpress

great for cpus, ram, sometimes cheap motherboards but not much else in the pc world

peripherals are also good tho

[brittle trellis]

Yeahhhh totalllyyyy QD OLED..... Definitely not the cheapest IPS panel available

[indigo walrus]

Well, uh, you get what you pay for, after all. 🤷 But I personally wouldn't risk it.

[merry stirrup]

it probably is oled but i wouldnt trust firmware or warranhty

[green marsh]

damn you amazon

could have saved few more euros 😄

[teal hound]

chat is this real

[lethal topaz]

no

[livid flame]

Well it is real

You might receive a brick in the post or an empty box

Or just a 1050 in a 4090 shroud

[minor herald]

they saying they sold 100,000?

[fringe shadow]

You'll get the shroud, another GPU in the shroud or the GPU without the VRAM or the die

If it's coming out of china a lot of these are people reselling husks or GPUs that have been picked clean by people making customs for AI stuff

Gamers Nexus did a cool documentary about it, and I live in China lol

[ripe flicker]

hi would it better if I invest on a 5070/5070ti instead of trying to upgrade to am5?

[burnt socket]

how do you access discord?

[fringe shadow]

Not in China rn, home for holidays but I just use a VPS

Everyone does, it's not hard

[burnt socket]

oh

[minor herald]

what you got now?

[burnt socket]

depends which component is dragging your performance

[oak vector]

Better than North Korea so there’s that

[fringe shadow]

Comparing China to North Korea is hilarious.

[oak vector]

Depends
What cpu do you have rn

[fringe shadow]

China sucks in a lot of ways but it's basically the same as everywhere else

[oak vector]

I really wanna go there ngl

[fringe shadow]

It's cool, I'm moving to the U.S. soon and I'm pretty happy to be doing so.

[oak vector]

Ooo nice

[devout ridge]

where in the US?

[fringe shadow]

China's getting stricter and current tensions are too high

[burnt socket]

bro its such a nice place for vacation

[fringe shadow]

Chicago

[devout ridge]

get a gun

[fringe shadow]

?

[burnt socket]

LOL

[devout ridge]

you need a gun for chicago

[fringe shadow]

No you don't, I've lived in the U.S. before

[devout ridge]

for personal safety

there’s the US, then there’s chicago

[fringe shadow]

It is hilarious to try and paint an entire city under one kind of vibe

[oak vector]

Congrats!!

[fringe shadow]

Chicago is perfectly safe for the most part as long as you're not an idiot

[devout ridge]

it’s chicago, they painted it themselves

[fringe shadow]

I'm going to be working in media though, more likely I get taken out by Supreme Leader Tangerine

[shell void]

[livid flame]

You living in East Korea I see

[fringe shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[minor herald]

https://tenor.com/iJUev6sU3Yz.gif

[turbid locust]

waddup biatches

[minor herald]

https://tenor.com/vRX1bNpcNZN.gif

[dense bramble]

Ordered a tandem oled monitor from LG, and it gets here Wednesday, thing is I play VR, and it usually shows up on the main display as a preview, so would I just turn it off whenever I play VR?

[burnt socket]

whats with the trend of oled i dont get it 😭

[shell void]

it looks good

[dense bramble]

^

Infinite contrast, instant pixel response times

Tried a g7 last week, didn't like it because VA panel and it was way too big for my desk too

Plus, it was my first and last curved monitor lol

[brisk jolt]

that monitor looks like it has more scoliosis than normal

[dense bramble]

Lmao

It looked alright in games, but washed out on the desktop, so I returned it to microcenter

[brisk jolt]

welcome back to gold

[edgy laurel]

looks like a 10y/o IPS to me

yikes. that black level and washed out backlight

[shell void]

i just can’t respect people that don’t have wisdom teeth

[brisk jolt]

No 4K
No OLED
No HDR

Its a 0/10

[brisk jolt]

all my friends w/o wisdom teeth all seem immature as fk

like one of them was watching youtube shorts on the school PC

[shell void]

many such cases

[brisk jolt]

and I was thinking “I can call this guy my friend?”

[burnt socket]

would still have ips

scared of burn in

[brisk jolt]

we get it u dont have balls

[dense bramble]

Currently have an ips and it's great

[shell void]

that’s okay you can be scared and we’ll enjoy the good image quality

[dense bramble]

Still want to try something new though

Got a 32 inch 1440p 165hz ultra gear as my main monitor

[edgy laurel]

32" 1440p has to go

[brisk jolt]

Im waiting for that 4K 32” 240hz glossy tandem to upgrade

Then Ill also do a table swap

[dense bramble]

That's why my next one is a tandem oled 1440p at 27 inches

Second monitor is an Acer predator 1080p 240hz from 4 years ago and is still going strong

[brisk jolt]

Its already on the market btw

[dense bramble]

Ordered and coming tomorrow

[burnt socket]

people on a tight budget will never ever gonna see oled as their monitor in the first place

[brisk jolt]

n1

[dense bramble]

The LG ultra gear

[brisk jolt]

there was recently a msi QHD 240hz OLED for sub $400 USD so…..

[dense bramble]

Certain People complained about the matte coating

[brisk jolt]

that argument is shrinking day by day

[dense bramble]

But I don't really care I'm used to it already

[brisk jolt]

light dispersement sucks with matte

[dense bramble]

If I don't end up liking it, then at least I ordered it on Amazon so returns aren't too hard

And will wait for the Asus tandem true glossy

So annoying that it's not on us Amazon yet

[burnt socket]

way too expensive

[dense bramble]

What do you recommend to do for vrr flicker, just turn it off altogether? Because I don't mind the latency hit for normal v-sync

[burnt socket]

for my market about 1200 USD and above

[dense bramble]

Fair enough

[burnt socket]

thats why ips are very favourable

[dense bramble]

That sucks though, but it is getting more accessible as time goes on

Saw this while at microcenter lol

[brisk jolt]

i recently sold this off

But I didnt notice the IO shield being slightly rusted

[dense bramble]

Oof, damn

[brisk jolt]

the IO shield is shit- the white paint/coating isnt strong

[dense bramble]

That's why stainless io shields are important

[brisk jolt]

buyer asked for a solution and j told him i can help him repaint the IO shield with anti rust paint

bcs in SGP its hella humid

and that doesnt go well with shit that isnt rust resistant

[dense bramble]

Ahh

[burnt socket]

hatsune miku x asus is the least expecting collab i swear

[burnt socket]

even this is almost 700 usd

[dense bramble]

One I got is 550

[burnt socket]

i have an ips for 250 bucks

[shell void]

found another 2x24 kit for $260 so mi amigo ordered it

bros upgrading from an i7 8700 and gtx 1070 to a u7 265k and 5070ti

[burnt socket]

tradeoff is adaptive sync throwing out this

[edgy laurel]

what is the problem with this exactly?

[burnt socket]

'selected display is not validated as G-SYNC compatible'

[edgy laurel]

So?

[burnt socket]

yes g-sync will work due to adaptive sync,

but the rest of the series of my monitors have g-sync

[edgy laurel]

Thats not mattered in many years

[burnt socket]

it just bothers my mind for some reason

anyways yes it doesnt matter, as long as it has the option to

[fringe vigil]

Bros still talking about that monitor

[turbid locust]

Non G-sync displays don’t work with Nvidia GPUs, Guilty.

[edgy laurel]

you're cooked @fringe vigil https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/64gb-of-ddr5-memory-now-costs-more-than-an-entire-ps5-even-after-a-discount-trident-z5-neo-kit-jumps-to-usd600-due-to-dram-shortage-and-its-expected-to-get-worse-into-2026

[frank zealot]

bruh:

REFURB FOR 5K

[burnt socket]

crazy

[edgy laurel]

your name/location is on that

[frank zealot]

holy fuckballs... And the 7500$ version has 192GB / RAM

[frank zealot]

nbd honestly

[edgy laurel]

lol ok then!

[burnt socket]

it ain't even cl26 ram

or cl30

[frank zealot]

the city's roughly 4 sq miles, and has over 85K inhabitants lol

[edgy laurel]

to be fair, i did set the minimum to 6000

butwhothefuckcaresaboutanythingslower

[frank zealot]

anyone trying to run 4 sticks of DDR5?

[shell void]

omg we share a name

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-40k-spacemarine2-heresy-heretic-gif-15781539930698202487

[shell void]

i’m gonna try again when i install my 1.6TB P5800X just for funsies

[frank zealot]

you, me, and about 3/4 of a million of our closest american friends

[shell void]

4x32GB 2R is literally the worst possible memory config so it’ll be cool if i can get it stable at 6000

[edgy laurel]

you really want a hedt platform don't you

[brisk jolt]

new vs old cable

[fringe vigil]

So next year they’ll be cheaper

[shell void]

yes but threadripper sucks

for general use anyway

i miss practical hedt

[edgy laurel]

i think you might think differently if it was just 1/3 of the cost

[burnt socket]

at least you can afford a chungus gpu

😔

[frank zealot]

if they released a 48 PCIE Lane HEDT setup?

That'd be amazing for home HEDT

[topaz veldt]

Intel offers a cool thing that AMD doesn't in regard to the bigger CPUs

[frank zealot]

100+ is absolutely bonkers stupid

[shell void]

i don’t think that would matter tbh

i’d rather pay the current price and have a better product

[edgy laurel]

did you read the headline

[topaz veldt]

AMD should do something like this with TR/TR Pro

[frank zealot]

How long until GDDR starts getting boned by this?

[topaz veldt]

IMHO its here

[edgy laurel]

is it not?

[topaz veldt]

Big GDDR VRAM devices... gone

[shell void]

WE need the Xeon 6 HEDT CPU with 48 Redwood Cove+ Pcores in one Tile

[topaz veldt]

But if they want to get back into HEDT and not just be wide many core "compile" boxes... they should devise a way like SST-PP to go down to like 12 cores but 5 GHz type shit

So I can be like hey I want to game today.... 12-16 cores, 5-6 GHz with boost

[shell void]

they’re unlocked bro do whatever you want :p

[topaz veldt]

TR?

There are no proffiles like what Intel has

[edgy laurel]

Isn't that what Game Mode in Ryzen Master was trying to accomplish

[shell void]

you replied to a comment about xeon 6 hedt