#tech-chat-2

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warped mountain
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i did actully buy 3. MBP showed me the "right way" now i need a note taking device to pair with it, and considering "downgrading" to m5 mac. woudl love to hear feedback from real world users. i do light "game" on teh mac (assuming mac version avail) but very casual as i have 4090M at home.

topaz veldt
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Rust the game?

pure garnet
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only one with a good release cadence imo

slim pebble
topaz veldt
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bash, perl, and python

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everything else is fake news

steel stream
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C++ and Python is all I need

pure garnet
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just use c bro

steel stream
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I use C a little bit tto

pure garnet
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memory safety is for people who can't afford ecc

topaz veldt
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Also gaming on MacOS is not good

pure garnet
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ignore that it has nothing to do with error correction

topaz veldt
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just use Geforce Now and stop it already

steel stream
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fuck it, everyone has to code in assembly again

pallid marsh
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You guys don't use java?

young void
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Actually dont know much Java but I hear its pretty straight forward

pallid marsh
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I had a highschool class about java and forgot most of it

steel stream
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i don't use java

young void
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Can't say i recall the scratch/game maker classes myself

steel stream
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I don't code, ChatGPT does it for me

warped mountain
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i show they are neck and neck 👀 where did you see that? maybe i got a biased website?

young void
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I mean if the functions correct no qualm

gentle gale
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s11u has tandem?

topaz veldt
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end me

gentle gale
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interesting

warped mountain
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the HDR android app should just be video player like on my s25 Ultra, I also use VLC when needed. plays my .mkv fine

topaz veldt
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I think this dude needs his own channel

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so we can just... not

steel stream
warped mountain
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hmm i dont have any issues watching my 4k lossless (92mbps) HDR10+ content on my S25 Ultra. Doesnt support Dolby vision natively (or maybe at all?) because Samsung wants HDR10+ to win the HDR wars.

fringe vigil
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i love u 4090

warped mountain
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nah, its tablets now and "downgrade to m5" benefits

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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perfect

topaz veldt
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nice dude

warped mountain
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media coinsumption Tablets now

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hmm yeah just wanted to cover all teh details. did TL;DRs now and will just link back to those messages for people to referance.

steel stream
merry stirrup
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LOL

warped mountain
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trying to :/ never bought a tablet before that wasnt just to watch OBD live data in teh car

arctic bronze
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Just watch somw review and comparison videos

pure garnet
steel stream
pure garnet
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if i could get the monkey on a flag or something i'd put it in my room

merry stirrup
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i already got play guy cart man id get another one

steel stream
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it's 8"x8"

odd bison
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what do you guys prefer
watching on 11 inch tablet or
13 inch laptop

pure garnet
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tv 👍

steel stream
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watching on my LG G5 65"

merry stirrup
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core 2 duo gamers rising up fr

steel stream
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i'm not getting 90mbps+ rips for my phone or laptop

pure garnet
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just own a g5, brutal

gentle gale
steel stream
gentle gale
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unless its one of those 2in1s

steel stream
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easy mog

warped mountain
gentle gale
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those are alright

pure garnet
merry stirrup
odd bison
steel stream
steel stream
warped mountain
odd bison
pure garnet
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i want tcl oled so i can have every hdr format

fringe vigil
hoary hatch
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Y'all

warped mountain
odd bison
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i have 8 year old oled tv
idk it has black lines
like patch only visble in white background

hoary hatch
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Idea, hear me out

I put B580 in my main slot, and use 5070ti for lossless scaling

odd bison
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no screen burn in btw

hoary hatch
odd bison
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its a xiaomi 55inch oled from 2018 (android)

warped mountain
pure garnet
odd bison
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95 inch too big for tv?

steel stream
steel stream
fringe vigil
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same as c5 but okay

odd bison
warped mountain
steel stream
fringe vigil
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yh

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only in colors and brightness

steel stream
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so the parts that matter?

topaz veldt
crisp oracle
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Would it be worth getting a 7600x3d when I have a 5800x currently

warped mountain
steel stream
pure garnet
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that’s like a $500-600 cost

crisp oracle
warped mountain
pure garnet
crisp oracle
pure garnet
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so still about 500

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not really worth it

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steel stream
warped mountain
south shuttle
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warped mountain
warm spruce
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How big is the difference on the rx 9060xt and 9070xt

steel stream
jaunty horizon
frank zealot
steel stream
steel stream
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I wouldn't finance a TV

proven saddle
frank zealot
steel stream
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I am Mr. TV

pallid marsh
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You did technically buy 3 TVs

pure garnet
steel stream
frank zealot
steel stream
pure garnet
warped mountain
# hoary hatch What about actually using your computer

All my large files are zip Incase data is lost during a transfer. Everything else is in chrome NGL and watching media. I think the M5 vs M4 pro don't care on that front.

The nearly double memory bandwidth definitely helps with the performance tasks. That's why I was thinking maybe the M5 can keep up with M4 pro? Idk looks like half the raw cine score, and only 25% faster than lunar lake.

frank zealot
pure garnet
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paying 0.06c a month for the next year and a half

steel stream
steel stream
warped mountain
frank zealot
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Snoogans

steel stream
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you don't understand

pure garnet
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pay in 4 on the monster can

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im pretty sure the apple card lets me do like year long installment plans on $20 apple purchases

frank zealot
pure garnet
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$3.25 for the air bumper

frank zealot
warped mountain
# topaz veldt If that's your assessment you're beyond help

No no y'all upset I didn't know what I needed, that's valid I guess.

Now that I do, y'all are just being rude and continue complaining about me not knowing 4GB/s wasn't possible for a home NAS, and that I "can't shut up about laptops"

no duh I didn't have good guidance. Had to learn by doing.

steel stream
south shuttle
pure garnet
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okay it looks like $40 is the minimum to do installments on

south shuttle
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it probably costs them like $10 a case

steel stream
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I liked my silicone 14 pro case, but yeah $$$

south shuttle
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no way the material and processing costs are more

pure garnet
warped mountain
south shuttle
# pure garnet

i don’t support apple’s wireless charging ngl, mostly due to the reason that if apple abandons wired then rest of the industry may over time too

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the efficiency will just not get nearly close to eff of wired

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it’s also slower

pallid marsh
warped mountain
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What benefits other than extra cash in pocket, would I see going down to m5 /16GB from M4 pro/24GB?

steel stream
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When my mom is out of the house and he won't get yelled at

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the akn family men gets yelled at for buying new gadgets

pure garnet
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you know i will be out of the house this weekend, maybe im getting akns new tv

topaz veldt
steel stream
pure garnet
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i think you'd be sleeping in the shed with the hardware purchases you've made

steel stream
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i'd be paying for my own tuition if they knew

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ty mom and dad <3

pallid marsh
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Spoiled shit

steel stream
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I am very fortunate yes

pure garnet
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yo are akn and i debt free grad twins

steel stream
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nah I'll have to take on a little bit of debt

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they're paying for as much as they can, but I will probably end up 10-20k in the hole

pure garnet
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there was enough in my 529 that i can do all 4 years debt free if i stayed at home

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so i've done that

steel stream
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nice

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yeah that's huge

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I could have stayed at home, but I wanted to go to a big school

pallid marsh
pure garnet
wise bear
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Not gonna lie, walmart's got a pretty good cheap/generic brand led ceiling fixture

gentle gale
wise bear
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3 color temps and it's bright as fuck

gentle gale
steel stream
steel stream
pallid marsh
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But computers have no engines

steel stream
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im still at a big10 school so we are chilling

pure garnet
steel stream
pure garnet
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no clubs or anything tho just went to class

steel stream
pure garnet
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i had the option to pick and i dont remember why i actually picked the act

teal orbit
wise bear
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magic pixies

proven saddle
south shuttle
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double, no, triple it!

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until the usb c catches fire ahahha

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realme is pumping some real nuclear reactors

karmic folio
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Wtf is up with the windows media tool

warped mountain
# warped mountain What benefits other than extra cash in pocket, would I see going down to m5 /16G...

Looks like the M5 has a faster SSD (I did notice the M4 pro was a lil porky, not bad just not boom 200GB transfered so fast you can't get activity monitor to launch in time)

With my (some say abusive) chrome tab use with multiple profiles open at once, does the M4 pro raw performance come into play?

The only real like objective thing I can give you (don't really know how to tie benchmark results into performance like i can with windows) is I have gotten the bottom of the laptop very warm, and use about 10-14% battery per hour in my real world use.

pallid marsh
south shuttle
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you can turn case fans into wheels

warped mountain
south shuttle
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which means all pcs are electric engine cars.

pallid marsh
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What if it's a fan less PC?

south shuttle
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take heat from the cpu and turn it into steam machine that moves at whopping 0.001km/h

proven saddle
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Man i need an Fan hub

karmic folio
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man windows fucking blows i cleaned the other disk and it cleaned both

hoary hatch
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Man I need an nvme nas that can do 20GB/s

proven saddle
karmic folio
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why not

warped mountain
proven saddle
karmic folio
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How do I make sure windows does NOT install any shit related to it on any other drives

pure garnet
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take the others out

hoary hatch
karmic folio
karmic folio
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Nothing but i want to install linux on the other ssd

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and windows on one

hoary hatch
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No partition tables?

pure garnet
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if windows is already installed it won’t care

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but if windows isn’t installed remove the linux drive so it doesn’t dump the windows bootloader in the linux esp

proven saddle
karmic folio
karmic folio
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ffs guess i have to open it up

hoary hatch
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You didn't already have an os installed?

karmic folio
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i did lol but i wanted to reinstall just incase

hoary hatch
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My assumption was Linux was installed on one drive and windows put some stuff there since it detected an efi partion

hoary hatch
karmic folio
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no it was windows home probably, on german and i just wasnt bothered to change the language so i installed windows on usb and here i am

odd bison
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anyway to prevent trackpad getting its coating away

warped mountain
# hoary hatch Man I need an nvme nas that can do 20GB/s

we found out the other day over an 18 hour period, that that is not viable in a home environment, you'll need to do a DAS to get TB4 speed which is ~5GB/s therotical. TB5 does not increase data speeds. Full feature USB4 (2.0) can go faster, but full feature v2 USB4 is hard to find. that will get you to 10GB/s of your requested 20GB/s

the other option is to go all Linus house with it and do optic and full commercial grade install Snail (who says he does this for a living) said its about $50,000 in parts. so after labor like $150,000 USD.

hoary hatch
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I always nuke my drive first

karmic folio
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other drive was empty

hoary hatch
odd bison
odd bison
hoary hatch
cold bone
brave panther
proven saddle
karmic folio
odd bison
odd bison
karmic folio
odd bison
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what is cloudflare Situation.

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i dont understand they down?

wise bear
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yeah cloudflare fell over

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physically

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like their entire corporate office

odd bison
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how

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they were at lose?

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omg half of internet runs on them

young void
odd bison
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we are so cooked gng

brave panther
odd bison
young void
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Im out of the loops

proven saddle
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What did i miss?

young void
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Brb grabbing baby from car

odd bison
wise bear
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their entire office did not fall over lmao

proven saddle
young void
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I meant like cyber attack lol ill look it up rq

odd bison
proven saddle
odd bison
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💀

proven saddle
karmic folio
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do i need a pry tool to open up the back side of the laptop tho

proven saddle
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Bio is like 3 but between s and L

cold bone
young void
cold bone
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what if the outage is caused by a truck crashing into it

hoary hatch
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I choose to believe one of the lava lamps exploded

odd bison
warped mountain
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here is what i have found so far

young void
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Dudes probs getting alittle chewed xD

proven saddle
brave panther
odd bison
proven saddle
odd bison
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ones

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odd bison
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are we deadass rn?

proven saddle
proven saddle
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You remember me of someone

odd bison
proven saddle
warped mountain
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and in my actual use, idk what this all correlates to in the m4 pro vs m5 but here is the data from the performance tool think (task manager, but Mac)

pallid marsh
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odd bison
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warped mountain
proven saddle
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so 20 cent per one

warped mountain
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what else do you need?

odd bison
proven saddle
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so like 1.20?

pallid marsh
odd bison
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yes

proven saddle
pallid marsh
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12

proven saddle
pallid marsh
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So $1.75 for 6

odd bison
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bro did not pass high school

pallid marsh
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A baker's dozen is 13

odd bison
proven saddle
odd bison
warped mountain
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here is my battry consumption

proven saddle
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odd bison
proven saddle
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i did Realschule

odd bison
proven saddle
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somehow

proven saddle
odd bison
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wdym?

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8hrs on laptop is god level

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if windows not macs

proven saddle
proven saddle
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only right one

odd bison
proven saddle
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didnt i post that my monitor is slightly damaged?

gentle gale
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even for windows devices

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if this is a gaming laptop though sure i’d say “god level”

odd bison
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its on balanced mode then 8hrs

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if on performance mode than 6hrs

karmic folio
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im gonna try this if it doesnt work, well i'll take the disk out tomorrow

proven saddle
warped mountain
warped mountain
proven saddle
karmic folio
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ok it looks like it didnt put the bootloader on another disk

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thanmk apes

warped mountain
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  • still trying to find out if M5 would be better, i know single core is better, ssd is faster, and it overheats under full loads and has to thermal throttle.

  • what i dont know is WTH all that means to my use cases?
    i dont care about local AI (rn not enough hp to do much, idk what apple plans, dont follow their stuff) .

karmic folio
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holy fuck

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warped mountain
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no one know?

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really??

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warped mountain
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midnight night
warped mountain
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yall said TB5 doesn't improve data transfer speeds .... is this the m5 being in bottle neck? or the TB4 port limit (looks like TB4 limit to me)

karmic folio
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Undecisive final boss

charred osprey
warped mountain
warped mountain
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i am curious why i was told TB5 doesn't matter for transfer speed, digging deeper right now.

proven saddle
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i got this speed on ssd

charred osprey
proven saddle
charred osprey
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??

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doesnt change anything, still terrible

warped mountain
proven saddle
warped mountain
odd sable
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warped mountain
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to go faster needs PCIe lanes

charred osprey
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warped mountain
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traditionally (exclude soldered storage)

proven saddle
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I bought it 5 years ago

topaz veldt
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These clowns pretending to know me

turbid locust
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5nail

proven saddle
turbid locust
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I’m still debating the Bambu

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P1S + AMS 2 combo seems appealing

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Bambu

topaz veldt
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ah

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P1S is nice

turbid locust
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Back ordered till the 28th tho

topaz veldt
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yeah i get ADHD I can't fucking deal witht hat

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I'd rather pay $1000 today than $500 in a million days

turbid locust
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Oh same but like cheapskateness overtakes ADHD for me

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odd sable
topaz veldt
hoary hatch
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Well I bought lossless scaling

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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@hoary hatch I bought a 5090 for plex transcoding

brave panther
turbid locust
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Like I can wait a week if it’s gonna save me $150

brave panther
topaz veldt
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@turbid locust I had a 5090 Astral in cart and checkout and then 5090 Master Ice came in stock ... if it wasn't for that I was going to overpay by $700

turbid locust
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lol

topaz veldt
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I have 108,800 cuda cores and 160GB of VRAM

brave panther
proven saddle
topaz veldt
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well, two are in the mail

pure garnet
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@turbid locust are you keeping the apex

proven saddle
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for specific things?

brave panther
proven saddle
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just asking

turbid locust
topaz veldt
hoary hatch
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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Apex is caviar

pure garnet
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i do not need a 3rd z890 board

proven saddle
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Who got also ADHD?

pure garnet
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probably 90% of every tech server

turbid locust
proven saddle
merry stirrup
brave panther
turbid locust
pure garnet
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i was actually thinking of tossing the z890 master back in my case

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but the ocf has more aura even though the bios is kinda trash

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hoary hatch
topaz veldt
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I am excited to turn power limit off on 265K

hoary hatch
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You absolutely do need a 3rd z890 board

odd sable
pure garnet
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i own 1 265k, 1!!!

merry stirrup
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mac can also solve that

hoary hatch
turbid locust
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Once I get an acceptable tune on the 265K I’ll swap it into the main rig

odd sable
turbid locust
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not a fkin clue what I’m gonna do with the 14900k

pure garnet
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im not buying macs 265k if i bought another 265k i would get one from newegg for $80

merry stirrup
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wat

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80$ 265k

hoary hatch
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Oh floppa we should still tune my 960 for shits and giggles

topaz veldt
hoary hatch
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By we I mean I but I'm also an idiot so I mean we

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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ohh

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trade in my delidded 13900ks

topaz veldt
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Anyone want a 265K + Z890i Nova

brave panther
hoary hatch
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ASRock L

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
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I no longer need QuickSync

pure garnet
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if i got another arrowlake chip i kinda want a 285k

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hoary hatch
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Real

pure garnet
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it's not really worth it but having the 9 looks cooler than the 7

topaz veldt
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285K is good

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been dailying the 285K since my 9950X3D GPU left earth

pallid marsh
topaz veldt
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47K R23 is nice

hoary hatch
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290K Plus + CUDIMM?

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It would be funny if all the leaks were wrong and 290K was 8+32

topaz veldt
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HYPERTHETICALLY... what mITX AM5 board?

hoary hatch
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Hyperthetically

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pure garnet
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okay you can't do trade in towards a 285k for whatever reason

odd sable
pure garnet
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that is very dumb on neweggs part

hoary hatch
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Okay y'all be honest

pure garnet
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oh that's because antonline is the only one with a reasonable price

hoary hatch
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If I can afford it, would it be fun to try a Radeon card

pure garnet
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not really

hoary hatch
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Damn

pure garnet
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it's a gpu just with

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less software support

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that's not horrible

fringe vigil
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can someone explain why the oled look like that

pure garnet
warped mountain
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ahh is this why yall said TB4 vs TB5 didnt matter for data transfer speed?

odd sable
fringe vigil
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wym

warped mountain
odd sable
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oleds in general aren't particularly bright displays

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if the camera has its brightness calibrated for the brighter display, then it'll make the dimmer one look wrong

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that said, OLEDs dont need to get as bright as LCDs to look (to your eye) just as good, because black is actually black

warped mountain
odd sable
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their filming is also shit

fringe vigil
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dumass reviewer

odd sable
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the oled as reflections in the background, while the LCD doesn't, and its not in a dark room

warped mountain
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okay i'M keeping the M4 pro/24 GB. i feel that its worth teh extra $360 for 50% more ram and 17% faster, getting a generation older cores, and no neural cores. the deciding factor NGL was teh TB5

merry stirrup
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rolled

warped mountain
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i wanted to thank everyone for their input, even those that were acting like complete 🤬 and were total 🤬 to me for literally NO reason. Even they were helpful from time to time.

fringe vigil
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did you get 10 core or 12

warped mountain
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what i wanted doesn't exist (kinda... the ipad pro, but iPad OS isnt "there yet" to replace a laptop in actual work, casual yes (but $$))

i wanted to directly thank whomever said to at least try apple. yes it is literally an overgrown chromebook for my needs, but... it has power in reserve and sips power (until you work her ... then she guzzles 30% per hour ..... )

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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12 core cpu and 16 core gpu?

pallid marsh
fringe vigil
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512gb low asf

pallid marsh
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My deck has more storage

warped mountain
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its the scaleability that you CANNOT get on windows. Panther lake wont be there either. (275HX performance, but able to sip like a 256v under light loads?? YEAH RIGHT!)

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fringe vigil
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lol

warped mountain
# pallid marsh Not 1tb?

i REALLY should, I've already written like 8TB to this poor 512GB drive in what 10 days? and 5 of those i didn't even use it

warped mountain
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i saw that the new BO7 boss fight so trash is

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pallid marsh
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512gb can only store like 1/3rd of the songs I have in my Amazon music playlist

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warped mountain
fringe vigil
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can u upgrade ssd on mac

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gentle gale
warped mountain
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however i do need to dig in and see if they preform better do to more actual chips.

i dont like these speeds with TB5 since you you are interal SSD limited unlesss you are doing TB5 to TB5 ... but then you need at least 2 controllers, and i think apple only uses one 🙁

gentle gale
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no unless you want to void warranty

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One thing ...

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Good night everyone

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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yah yah

arctic bronze
fringe vigil
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hows black ops 7

turbid locust
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Not even remotely interested nor do I know anyone even remotely excited about the game

arctic bronze
turbid locust
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Have seen folks online saying it’s the worst cod campaign to date lol

arctic bronze
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besides now

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pure garnet
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im having fun with the multiplayer

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campaign looks awful doubt i'll start it

fringe vigil
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multi looks like bo6 lol

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Ok 👌 🆗️ 👌

pure garnet
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which is a game i didn't own anyway

turbid locust
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From what I’ve seen multi looks better than BO6. But that’s not a high fkin bar that games multiplayer was mid

pure garnet
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i haven't bought a cod since cold war and nobody plays cold war

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so i just grabbed the latest one to shoot people in when im bored

arctic bronze
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bro, they need to fire all the current COD creators and start from scratch, they been releasing doo doo ass dog shit for the past, what, 5 years?

turbid locust
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10

pure garnet
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13

turbid locust
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Cod had a MAJOR fall off after Ghosts imho

arctic bronze
arctic bronze
turbid locust
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AW was the beginning of the end

arctic bronze
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yeah

turbid locust
arctic bronze
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ikr

fringe vigil
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i need a keybaord this size ngl

arctic bronze
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we got drug off and thats it

turbid locust
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Multiplayer was mid but like

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Game was still solid

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Extinction was cool too

arctic bronze
fringe vigil
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yh its good, which ojne

arctic bronze
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I have the hi75

arctic bronze
arctic bronze
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I got it for like 80 bucks after tax

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it was on sell at the time

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then spent that saving on new keycaps

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the keyboard is normally like 100 bucks

fringe vigil
#

i mean its alright like

arctic bronze
#

wdym

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

a little bit small but its okay

arctic bronze
warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

naw

arctic bronze
#

jorj is jorjing it

fringe vigil
#

i thought yours was smaller than that

arctic bronze
fringe vigil
#

then my fault

arctic bronze
#

same size and form factor

warped mountain
arctic bronze
#

its the entire keyboard besides the num pad

arctic bronze
#

Cod is just pumping garbage out now days

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for the past 5 years

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

copy and pasted lol

warped mountain
warped mountain
warped mountain
#

bo7 comes after BO2

arctic bronze
#

no, im talking about bo7 being good lol

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

i heard the campaign is bad

arctic bronze
#

its a poop sandwich vs a shit burrito

arctic bronze
warped mountain
mild sandal
#

Intel...

warped mountain
#

MW4 (?) i was getting total crashes ~20% of teh games (and losing EVERYTHING i grinded for in teh process.....)
bo6 was about 10 %
bo7 was technically 1 in the ~28 hrs played this weekend. (that wasn't network related, i was having packet loss not COD fault)

warped mountain
gentle gale
#

amd would probably just introduce a new apu with some crazy igpu

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like strix halo

warped mountain
#

steam install ate a bunch of that so not bad

warped mountain
# gentle gale like strix halo

assuming they actually work on it, version 2 of this will be WILD. desktop 5070 ti performance from an iGPU?

low key think that what Nvidia wants to shove into intel, not much margin in sub $400 GPUS for them , when gamers dont want 6Gb cards, and you are developing special die to then not sale. much easier to have 2-3 flagship dies that you can cut down and still matain profit.

topaz veldt
#

what game are you trying on mac

brave panther
#

might order one for a "test"

topaz veldt
#

HYPERTHETICALLY should I dump 265K/Z890i for 9800X3D/Strix

radiant egret
#

hey yall im shopping for a gpu again and was wondering between 2 currently, the 9070xt and the 7900xtx was looking at my local micro center and the 9070xt at 579 and the 7900xtx at 699 was wondering if i should just go for the newer card or go for the old tried and true, i play in 240hz 1440p atm

topaz veldt
#

FSR4 and better efficiency

shell void
#

7900xtx for $700 is a scam

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that gpu would have to be like $400 to be a worthwhile purchase

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and only if you mainly play older games

solid pelican
#

is frame gen worth using on a game like arc raiders if i can get 130-160 fps without it

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i just dont know if the latency would suck or not

devout ridge
#

not really

warped mountain
# topaz veldt what game are you trying on mac

sadly cant run 32 bit games :/
american truck simulator, dying light, BO3, CIV vi, plauge inc,metro exodus, Dota 2, cyberpunk (ofc) and proably try the OG cities skylines.
thats all i think i have in my game libraries that are mac compatable.

dusty lotus
# mild sandal Intel...

intel aint doing shit there is a chance we wont ever see a b750 or b770, considering the raise of igpu performance there wont be need for low end gpus anymore

warped mountain
dusty lotus
#

there is more chance the next intel cpus come with nvidia igpus

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so that would probably be the “low end” for geforce

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i may be wrong but thats the most logical explanation

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memory shortage is only a part of this

edgy laurel
#

Dunno where he's getting that but here is a fun fact. Intel CPU's have been packaged with AMD iGPU's before.

dusty lotus
#

the chance is never 0

odd sable
dusty lotus
#

people forgot nvidia invested in intelDANger

odd sable
#

nvidia/intel directly said that maybe not iGPU but more product integration

odd sable
dusty lotus
#

thats where i am getting this from

warped mountain
#

yeah that s what i was talking about here #tech-chat-2 message
"glued together" (intels words) Intel CPU cores with Nvidia GPU cores.

dusty lotus
#

nvidia has been making gpus for 2 decades now they got some insane experience

edgy laurel
#

mostly just on the same substrate if you wanna get technical

young void
pure garnet
#

the mx line is garbage and that’s the smallest gpu they’ve made

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i don’t have a ton of interest in an nvidia igpu

odd sable
#

as a dev, id rather an nvidia potato than an intel potato

pure garnet
#

what does the intel igpu do wrong now

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it works fine on every os i’ve tried

odd sable
#

intel is the single biggest problem for driver bugs, and has been for decades now

warped mountain
warped mountain
young void
#

If it means snappier responses im for it

pure garnet
#

a 5060’s die is almost the entire size of a 265k’s package

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i doubt it would be the same die in chiplet form

warped mountain
odd sable
#

i mean, their Vulkan driver is a lot lot better

warped mountain
odd sable
#

also, Qualcomm is a problem too

warped mountain
dusty lotus
#

nvidia has some of the most flawless experiences

odd sable
#

no?

dusty lotus
#

these gpus just work

odd sable
#

they have an amd64 emulation layer, any app running on a qualcomm CPU gets to use their problematic drivers

odd sable
#

they aren't flawless, they do have issues

dusty lotus
#

absolutely

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i encountered a few

odd sable
#

ive ran into issues with every GPU ive used, every single one

warped mountain
#

swap like a windows page file? so i am out of RAM?

dusty lotus
#

but other than that the gaming and overall experience is smooth

warped mountain
#

cuda is king

dusty lotus
#

keep in mind i have both low and high end

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a 1650 and a 4080s

odd sable
#

i have everything

dusty lotus
#

both run perfectly fine

warped mountain
#

amd will eventually be forced to license CUDA. the momentum is simply too great at this point

dusty lotus
#

for the 1650 the cpu is a bottleneck many times

odd sable
#

GTX 285, GT 710, GTX 780ti, RTX 3090, among many others

dusty lotus
#

i want to buy some ancient out of support gpu

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maybe something like a 480

odd sable
#

i have a GTX 580

dusty lotus
#

some old flagship

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us as kids wouldve wished for one back in the day

fringe vigil
#

Deltarune lol

hoary hatch
warped mountain
turbid locust
warped mountain
#

didnt know they did NAS

dusty lotus
#

id get a 680 tbf

pure garnet
#

if you’re gonna buy ewaste get a 690

#

dual useless gpu is cooler than single useless gpu

dusty lotus
#

dual gpu is useless though

#

id prefer just getting a grand grand grand grandpa of my 4080

pure garnet
#

the entire purchase is useless

odd sable
#

ill have you know, my purchase of an HD 4870 has been very useful

pure garnet
#

there is a reason i tossed my hd 7770 and r9 280x

dusty lotus
#

i love collecting e waste and giving it a new life

odd sable
#

you tossed those?

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my GCN3 cards have also been useful for me

pure garnet
#

yeah

#

i used to use the 7770 for macos and it's long been dropped in that now

odd sable
#

my 780ti too

pure garnet
#

and the 280x was a 300w card to do 1050ti perf

odd sable
#

my GCN1 card idk

warped mountain
#
hoary hatch
odd sable
#

yes

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well, sorta

hoary hatch
#

Not a standard use case

odd sable
#

other way around really, testing my code against the GPUs

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im aware

#

its also not a standard case to have everything

hoary hatch
#

I have all my old cards for purely hoarding reasons

odd sable
#

i mean, i have some cards like that too

#

my Xeon Phi, S7150x2 V340, V540

pure garnet
#

as a main card at least

odd sable
#

i still have my Vega 64

hoary hatch
#

Was it during mining

odd sable
#

i made a profit off my Radeon VII

pure garnet
#

i bought it oblivious for $250 in 2019, i sold it for $250 in 2020

hoary hatch
#

When I retired my GTX960 it was worth about 65$

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So I kept it as backup

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When I retired my 1080ti it was only worth like $180

pure garnet
#

i got a 2060 to replace it because it kept shutting off randomly

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now that lives in my sisters pc

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oh i don’t have my 3080 anymore but it died

#

and i hate ampere so i don’t want another anyway

odd sable
#

what did ampere ever do to you?

pure garnet
#

dying mostly

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then the 4070 i replaced it with used half the power for a better experience

dusty lotus
#

the 1650 i got is a quite capable card

devout ridge
#

not really

indigo walrus
odd sable
#

ive never really cared about the power consumption of my GPUs

dusty lotus
#

best part about it is its the gddr6 version

odd sable
#

mostly because usually each one was higher than the last

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well, usually, not always

dusty lotus
#

and it purely uses pcie power

merry stirrup
#

the cooking continues

odd sable
#

vega was very power hungry

dusty lotus
#

it may be the one of the best pcie power only gpus

odd sable
#

those GPUs were fun to play with PPT on

merry stirrup
#

cpu is cookin away

devout ridge
dusty lotus
odd sable
merry stirrup
#

1650 g6 is a pcie power card of all time yes

merry stirrup
odd sable
#

no, you let me shit on Unity

devout ridge
dusty lotus
#

one of the greatest 50 tier gpus

merry stirrup
#

without DLSS i max my gpu basically everywhere

dusty lotus
merry stirrup
#

265k gud

dusty lotus
#

i wanted to keep this pc age accurate

#

2019-2020 era type thing

dusty lotus
#

even got a hdd for games just like 2019 intended

merry stirrup
#

in 2020 i had 3 ssds and no hdds bro

devout ridge
dusty lotus
#

age accurate entry-low end

merry stirrup
#

aka bad

dusty lotus
#

still capable

#

sometimes i jump on that pc to play some light games and hear the 1650 fans scream

odd sable
#

but why though?

devout ridge
#

though the A2000 is pcie slot power only, and almost 2x the performance of the 1650 even in gaming

dusty lotus
#

fun

odd sable
#

its just a worse experience

dusty lotus
#

just need to appreciate the low end gamers that exist all around the world

odd sable
#

you can do that on fast hardware too

dusty lotus
#

ok

#

i like having more than 1 pc

fringe vigil
#

ok

odd sable
#

so do i

dusty lotus
#

keep in mind i already have a high end build

#

so why not have both low and high end

devout ridge
odd sable
#

lot more than 1, to be accurate

odd sable
edgy laurel
#

jorj just inserting himself into this conversation is comedy

devout ridge
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
odd sable
dusty lotus
devout ridge
#

nothing wrong with having a second shitty PC, but i don't understand why you're pretending like the 1650 is some special card

topaz veldt
dusty lotus
#

it is the g6 model so its cool

devout ridge
#

it's like at best ok

dusty lotus
#

it is ok

devout ridge
#

pretty mediocre across the board

dusty lotus
#

it is a 50 tier after all

devout ridge
#

ok?

#

it's also 6 years old now

turbid locust
young void
#

Keks

topaz veldt
#

This is what happens when there's no new tech

hoary hatch
devout ridge
#

my 1070 sits unused in my NAS

hoary hatch
#

note it is NOT useful for Plex

#

960 + Plex = stutter

topaz veldt
#

Can 5090 transcode in Plex

hoary hatch
#

No

topaz veldt
#

Hmm

hoary hatch
#

My only eggs gpu

topaz veldt
#

Maybe I should have got a 9070 XT for Plex

hoary hatch
#

EVGA*

devout ridge
#

nah, need at least an RTX 6000 pro blackwell for plex transcode

hoary hatch
topaz veldt
#

Hmmmm

#

Are there any blocks for them

young void
#
BYKSKI.US

Built for continuous use, the N-RTXPRO6000-WS-SR water block features a combination of metal and POM, ensuring both safety and longevity. Its stainless steel panel design allows for an ultra-slim profile of the GPU block.The block is made from high-purity copper and is electroplated to avoid oxidation. Its high-flow de

brisk jolt
#

I think my next purchase decision will be a hs420 with like…. basically free x6 p14 pros

young void
#

Oh you gotta get it with a build from them lame, I believe in youuuu snailss

#

Id say alphacool but they have some kinda shipping to the us warning maybe off ebays

brisk jolt
#

I guess having the glass squeezing the 12vhpwr isnt ideal eh

#

both of them fucked each other up lmao

devout ridge
#

water block for the 12vhpwr connector

brisk jolt
#

@topaz veldt Dont you use a white cable 12vhpwr for that watercooled one? Interested to know where that one’s from

hoary hatch
#

Y'all's remember the AMD bike

young void
#

The whatt lol, those are actually kinda sickk

wise bear
#

No but here's my mega autistic marshmallow

young void
#

The flooooof

wise bear
#

He a good boy

#

He hates everyone else

brisk jolt
#

gang how do we feel about P14 pros lookin in a HS420

edgy laurel
steel stream
brisk jolt
edgy laurel
brisk jolt
jaunty horizon
young void
#

No nibbling the beans lol

steel stream
brisk jolt
#

might as well replace the 12vhpwr cable

wise bear
#

gay cable gay cable gay cable

brisk jolt
hoary hatch
brisk jolt
# hoary hatch How

Its highly likely that the shopping platform Im on has good vouchers for 12.12 again, x6 p14 pros are about $100 SGD, with the HAVN HS420 the min spend should be around $400, with a prob $120 off

#

the case is $300 from a retailer, arctic pros x6 would be $100 totalling $400, I'd basically be spending $280 in total

Where if I bought directly from havn, I'd need to account for currency exchange, shipping.

hoary hatch
brisk jolt
hoary hatch
#

Are they RGB or something? That could account for it

#

Hold up $100 Singapore or $100 converted to USD

brisk jolt
#

SG

hoary hatch
#

Damnit why does everyone else use $

brisk jolt
#

As for top and bottom at the back, Ill reuse my normal P14s

livid flame
turbid locust
young void
#

Who knew

devout ridge
warped mountain
#

oh my gawd... that is huge for a tablet thats an ipad 13 next to it 0.0

arctic bronze
white vigil
#

Google Pixel 9 pro is a fucking joke. I have never had battery life this bad since my galaxy s3 😭

frank zealot
wise bear
#

bro I literally made chicken strips with brown gravy and mashed potatoes stop making me more hungry

pallid marsh
low sorrel
wise bear
#

because I wanted something hearty after my near-freezing bike ride

frank zealot
wise bear
white vigil
pallid marsh
#

I should make some homemade fries with the 30 pounds of free potatoes I got from work 🤔

hoary hatch
#

P2S combo $799, eugh

hoary hatch
#

The problem is android apps on a tablet

#

But if you just want a big beautiful screen for Netflix or YouTube, it works

pallid marsh
#

No sain person would buy a new android tablet

hoary hatch
#

Pixels aren't battery champs by any means but they also aren't 2hrs SoT by default

warped mountain
warped mountain
pure garnet
#

"kill dolby vision"

#

you mean save like $6 a tv and hurt user experience?

rich mulch
hoary hatch
#

I mean Google docs and email is probably fine

#

But let's not kid ourselves about the Android tablet software ecosystem

warped mountain
# hoary hatch Smasmug ultra

im thinking the normal s11 for a jaw dropping $550 sale. was gonna cross shop ipad pro 13 because of teh ease to extend screen with mac book... but i cant justify the $1,318 price of it

rich mulch
#

is it that bad? ive app ive used works great on tablet

wise bear
#

oh god mr indecisive is back I'm going to bed

warped mountain
pallid marsh
#

What fucking model is 1318

hoary hatch
#

Not every app is bad on Android tablets, but as a software system, it pales in comparison to iPad support

rich mulch
#

i dont think i can really chime in as a pixel phone tablet watch and buds and they all work great together

hoary hatch
#

My pixel buds a died I'm so sad

#

Or rather the left one is really quiet and I can't make it unquiet

#

They were the only earbuds that reliably stayed in my ears

hoary hatch
hoary hatch
#

You can spec one to like $2k

hoary hatch
rich mulch
#

same here but still

pallid marsh
#

Oh m5 is in it

hoary hatch
#

I've tried IPA but nada

rich mulch
#

how old where they

rich mulch
hoary hatch
wise bear
warped mountain
hoary hatch
#

Hmm

pallid marsh
hoary hatch
#

I don't own H2O2

rich mulch
hoary hatch
wise bear
hoary hatch
#

They didn't come with medium ear tips

pallid marsh
hoary hatch
rich mulch
warped mountain
# hoary hatch They're not good

they seam to work fine especially with one UI. i run some apps in tablet mode on my phone for more features on a single screen.

hoary hatch
pallid marsh
hoary hatch
warped mountain
warped mountain
pallid marsh
warped mountain
shut yarrow
#

thanks

pallid marsh
#

I bet the iPad will get 2-3times longer os updates vs the scamsung

warped mountain
livid flame
#

A tablet for 3k? May aswell just use a velka 3 and attach a portable monitor

gentle gale
warped mountain
pallid marsh
gentle gale
#

their entire s lineup has like 6-7 years of support

livid flame
#

Probably just patchy phone support ported across

#

Fairly standard for iOS also

hoary hatch
#

It's probably 4-5 major OS updates plus a couple extra years security updates

#

5 years of new android versions is fine

pallid marsh
#

Get the Samsung s11 ultra

hoary hatch
#

But they should go backwards on oneUI decisions

warped mountain
gentle gale
#

thats crazy for android

#

i think samsung and google are the only ones that offer 7 years

livid flame
gentle gale
#

everyone else is like 3 or less

pallid marsh
warped mountain
gentle gale
topaz veldt
#

what the heck is going on in here

livid flame
#

iPad 2020 has a headphone jack

#

Might have been the last one

topaz veldt
#

I can finally sleep

livid flame
#

Say hi to the sandman for me

warped mountain
warped mountain
#

iPad 9th Gen has a headphoen jack too

topaz veldt
#

I'd buy an ipad but you have to buy all apple ios stuff

pallid marsh
warped mountain
livid flame
#

Wires man wires.

#

Can’t wait to be unc’d by my son when he realises I still use a wired headset

topaz veldt
#

How possibly could it be $7k

#

i just use wired headphones

livid flame
#

I got Logitech zone 900 for work. Piece of crap I’d never used outside of it… the things still cost over £200

#

Wireless just so much more expensive for no reason and poorer quality.

indigo walrus
pallid marsh
#

$30 can get you weird earbuds so good you would be wasting money trying to get more expensive ones that are just slightly better

livid flame
#

My company has probably spent around £50k+ on them

warped mountain
pallid marsh
#

I hate Logitech for placing screwes UNDER the mouse skates

indigo walrus
livid flame