tech-chat-2

[shell void]

translation: “you are going to have the coolest and most based pc in the server”

[merry stirrup]

why havent i seen anyone running a 9950x3d and ecc

[merry stirrup]

[topaz veldt]

yes, its called server market

[dawn plover]

because X3D is a gaming CPU

[pure garnet]

do they make 1dpc w980 boards

[merry stirrup]

that changes nothing'

there is no consumer market for ecc memory

you can buy it as a consumer but nobody wants to

[topaz veldt]

DDR5 also has some level of ECC

[merry stirrup]

on die blah blah

[pure garnet]

floppa i got a ram fan bracket on the way

[merry stirrup]

lonk? i need one

[pure garnet]

no more 1.35v only land

[dawn plover]

hmm I would've thought like professional use cases, home servers and whatnot

[pure garnet]

https://a.co/d/c4VfNqJ

[merry stirrup]

i mean some people do thaT

optimaled airflows

[pure garnet]

gonna just mount it to the aio fans i have rn

[dawn plover]

obviously nobody would buy ECC for a regular gaming PC

[merry stirrup]

even for home serving stuff you dont see it often, and if you do its usually DDR4 ECC cause its already cheap

[pure garnet]

the average home lab consists of a bunch of ebay stuff

[merry stirrup]

yah

i had a DDR4 ecc homeserver and none of the reasons were for ECC

[devout ridge]

yep

ebay cheaper for the same shit

[topaz veldt]

I mean no one is buying new server gear for a home lab

[merry stirrup]

my server is an HP Z2 SFF G5

[devout ridge]

i have a custom built 4u i use as my NAS, an R630, and an R730

[pure garnet]

well we know of one person who would

high performance camper

[merry stirrup]

yeah well i have a brick

[topaz veldt]

I have too many servers to list

[pure garnet]

L

[merry stirrup]

i used to do something like that but mine only had a 4690 or somethinf and it sucked

now i have a Xeon W-1250P

basically a 10400 with high tdp and base clock

[pure garnet]

mine has a 7500t

[devout ridge]

a problem i wish i had

[pure garnet]

it will be replaced by the 12900ks eventually

[topaz veldt]

its not good

[merry stirrup]

the 13900ks might do something at some point or itll go into girlfrined pc

probs girlfriend pc

[pure garnet]

basically once i run out of stuff to do with alder it’s going into a nas

[merry stirrup]

type shit

ill get my 10700 back after the mpower trade goes thru so

i can use that as my "nas"

i care more about my amp servers running ok

[pure garnet]

yeah i’m just waiting on the cpu tray

rn that cpu is in a ring box

[merry stirrup]

that is

incrdedible

i have one of the best ryzen 5 1400 (at least the imc) just sitting on a shelf in no box or anything

[odd sable]

R/Homelabsales for even cheaper

[pure garnet]

i had nowhere to put it so it’s in my parents bedroom

i think i have my sisters 7600x box so i might just use that tray and get that stuff sent out sooner if i can find a box at work

[merry stirrup]

mkay ill have to take the mpower to work again

and find the useful accessories

[pure garnet]

i better have the european union regulatory notice 🥀

[merry stirrup]

im so deadass

i threw it away yesterday night

[steel stream]

damn

[merry stirrup]

i was like "if hes fuming about this its my bad"

shes

bees

[merry stirrup]

it cannot be this useful

you can get your coloring books elsewhere

[steel stream]

bees

[merry stirrup]

bees

how does degredation even happen

electron migration or something

okay yeah thats actually right

[steel stream]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

thats crazy

[steel stream]

voltage and current is crazy

[pure garnet]

i will just have to use my tomahawks

[merry stirrup]

so my 13900KS is physically degraded somewhere in the steps to the memory controller

[pure garnet]

realistically i was just expecting the board and the doohickey

[merry stirrup]

yeah and an antenna

does it even have wifi wait

[pure garnet]

it do

[merry stirrup]

oh ok yeah you can have an antenna shawty

[hoary hatch]

Okay so what z890 boards are we all using

[pure garnet]

sign the antenna

[merry stirrup]

me and kyo are twinning on z890 OCF

macintosh has a Z890 apex

snail has a Z890 apex

[hoary hatch]

Me = tomahawk
Akn = Nova
Flops = ocf
Max = apex
Kyo = ocf

[merry stirrup]

michael cant comprehend arrowlake

akn has big nova, the atx one

[steel stream]

I'm on a Nova

the 🐐

[hoary hatch]

5nail has expensive bin, he doesn't count

[merry stirrup]

snail doesnt have expensive bin

he had to buy 2 chips to do the same memory speed as me

[hoary hatch]

16 e core bin*

[topaz veldt]

I am Z890i Nova and Apex

[merry stirrup]

oh he also has 265k

[hoary hatch]

Shiz

[pure garnet]

i need to sell my master

[shell void]

a little birdy has informed me that amd isnt getting avx10 support until zen 7 jajajajaja

[steel stream]

I started an ARL revelation

[merry stirrup]

thats cray

[pure garnet]

someone else buy arrowlake

[shell void]

meanwhile nova lake has that and is coming out late next year

not surprising because amd never does anything first

[merry stirrup]

you are literally right

you got 8k and so did carter within minutes

[steel stream]

nah bro we are getting the matrix engine

[hoary hatch]

Intel e-dram goated

[spiral hedge]

cant decide between the 5070ti & 9070 xt... I've watched countless videos, read countless forums but it all still comes down to DLSS/FSR. FSR 4 support doesn't seem that abundant and it doesn't even rival nvidia's latest DLSS 4. There's $150 difference between the two, which do I go for?

[pure garnet]

i got 8k after i returned the fraudbin

[topaz veldt]

Who else here has 285k?

[merry stirrup]

my shit exploded and i bought z890 within 24 hours

[pure garnet]

imo 5070ti unless you run linux

[shell void]

5070Ti if you respect your time and sanity

[wise bear]

5070ti ftw

[merry stirrup]

5070ti because i hate amd

[steel stream]

I think you are the only one

[topaz veldt]

that is wild

[pure garnet]

the central computers listing went crazy

i wanted a 285k but it's like 2x cost for 4 e cores

[shell void]

(i experience chromium hardware accel bugs daily on my 5090 but it's okay we dont talk about that)

[steel stream]

265K at launch was the move fr fr

[merry stirrup]

i was really trying to do it

but im already an K+ into Z890

[steel stream]

same, discord gets fucked

[merry stirrup]

never had those isuses

[topaz veldt]

mid spec

[pure garnet]

budget build

[merry stirrup]

ur pc is just named the CPU? lame

FloppaPC my goat

[topaz veldt]

Yes - because I have many

[pure garnet]

i don't really name my windows machines

[merry stirrup]

mods ban this man

[shell void]

the temptation to reinstall windows 10 grows daily

[merry stirrup]

eliminate kyoko

[pure garnet]

i am never going to ssh into a windows box to care

[shell void]

i dont either

[merry stirrup]

bro its so bad on arl

[pure garnet]

and even then i just have a static local ip for my linux ones

[merry stirrup]

i had a heart attack because kyoko was getting like 30% faster yc results on w11

on the full fat os

[pure garnet]

bro was getting mac bin flashbacks

[merry stirrup]

i actually thought i was cooked

had to bust out the whole suite of tests

[shell void]

that's unfortunate

i dont have phone cores in my cpu so that's not really a concern

[turbid locust]

Made it back with 22 mins to spare before I have to leave for work

[pure garnet]

thats enough time to look at the board a couple times

[shell void]

ZENBOOK

[merry stirrup]

my favorite cpu

[merry stirrup]

why do you have antiquated hw in use

[pure garnet]

maybe i trade my 7800x3d into newegg for a new 265k

[shell void]

$270? JAJAJAJAJA

[pure garnet]

surely it does 9200 this time

[merry stirrup]

ignore my last daily was 2 gens old

[steel stream]

woah woah woah

[merry stirrup]

hes mad he cant comprehend d2d fabric

[topaz veldt]

thats how much I paid for my 7800X3D

[pure garnet]

good guy amd competing with the $220 cpu

[merry stirrup]

it has vcache and its only 15% better?

am i missing something

[steel stream]

gotta pay for that vcache

[merry stirrup]

does it have zen 4c cores or something bro

[pure garnet]

since when is final fantasy xiv an esports game

[steel stream]

6 tiny little baby cores (idk if they are 4c)

[grizzled lily]

oh you want smoke with 9950x3d😤😤

[pure garnet]

can i go pro then

[shell void]

little cores that cant run avx512 or avx10 🥀

arctic wolves will save us

[merry stirrup]

where do i see my end note

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-nathan-fillion-gif-4809231

yeah that is sadly true

[merry stirrup]

this is extremely true

[shell void]

y cruncher scores on the 52c novalake cpu r gonna be fun

[merry stirrup]

avx512 diff in action on ryzen

7900x3d beats 430w 13900KS

[shell void]

is 9950x3d y cruncher king?

[merry stirrup]

yah

well maybe 9950x

[young void]

[steel stream]

gonna demolish

[steel stream]

I'm like 90% sure Imma buy the 52 core sku

[merry stirrup]

its def a lil faster

[shell void]

i wonder if zoid will get around to buying an arrowlake platform now that he's back

[pure garnet]

i will buy 2 nova lake platforms

52 core jedec ecc server and big cache gaming 🔥

[odd sable]

Notable that 4c and 4 have the same IPC afaik, just different layout, and 4c doesn't clock as high

[merry stirrup]

but i think its mostly mem diff here

[steel stream]

I am also thinking about that but I need to score that internship money first

[pure garnet]

yeah real i gotta get a j*b

[shell void]

amdbros saying that compact cores have the same ipc is mega cope

[merry stirrup]

so its still worse, i dont think it has zen 4c, i just didnt know the gaming increase isnt that large

[shell void]

they have halved L3 cache

[merry stirrup]

^

[steel stream]

I want to buy NVL + 6080 so 2xNVL would be crazy

[merry stirrup]

@shell void

[odd sable]

That's part of the ccx, not the core, but generally cpus with 4c have less cache

[shell void]

i do not frick with compact cores

so much larger than intel's Ecores and theyre wimpy

[odd sable]

Also, IPC is something you can measure independent of the rest of the CPU, I didn't say that the whole CPU was equal

When in doubt about IPC, consult the tables

[shell void]

i havent looked into specint z4c benchmarks but i doubt it's equivalent to z4

clock normalized of course

[odd sable]

The tables
https://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf

[turbid locust]

The $719.99 sticker on my Apex makes me chuckle

[odd sable]

There are IPC measurements for basically every uarch

[pure garnet]

yeah you got the z890 discount

asrock wanted $599 for the ocf

[odd sable]

When I say IPC, I more accurately mean reciprocal throughput on those tables

[dry temple]

Anyone got any value chair recomendations. Or is the ikea markus the goat? Its on sale now for sub 200€

[brisk jolt]

My riser’s lowk fucked up

[merry stirrup]

deadass?

[pure garnet]

yeah at msrp

[merry stirrup]

wild bro

50% off oc board while its still on gen

[brisk jolt]

Shit just freezes at random in valorant- and freezes while restarting

[merry stirrup]

its like z590 but even better oml

[graceful marten]

Its actually crazy that Chatgpt still do not know about 9060 XT at all, it either thinks it is a 7900xt or a 4060 ti 🫩

[brisk jolt]

DIY vertical GPU

[graceful marten]

why

[pure garnet]

i have the 2070 super on my desk

i will box it up later when i take it my job

[merry stirrup]

should i power on the mpower oone time for you

[brisk jolt]

Because… the riser isnt working as intended and Im using another incompatible with the mount

[merry stirrup]

if i do its going to be on a 20 year old power supply (not lying) so choose wisely

[graceful marten]

put it in the normal way instead

[pure garnet]

i doubt it died in the 2 weeks it's been unplugged

[merry stirrup]

this is real

[brisk jolt]

nah… this looks cool lowk

[merry stirrup]

i havent even taken the CPU out

i dont want to lowkey but im not giving you a 13900KS

[pure garnet]

that would be an expensive socket cover

[graceful marten]

it looks like 24/7 anxiety

[merry stirrup]

yeah a pre delidded pre exploded somewhat binned 13900KS as a socket cover

[brisk jolt]

Its pressing against the glass lmao

[graceful marten]

oh god

are the bottom fans even doing anything?

[merry stirrup]

probably not

[graceful marten]

damn

[pure garnet]

2070 super is a cute card

[merry stirrup]

i actually dont hate it even still

ive had more 2070 supers than any other gpu by a very wide margin

[pure garnet]

it has rgb so it should please the teenager it's going to

[merry stirrup]

hurray!!!

[pure garnet]

do you need the retail box or can i just bubble wrap it

[merry stirrup]

dude if it

[pure garnet]

the retail box is gigantic

[merry stirrup]

powers on that would be cool

[pure garnet]

okay word

[merry stirrup]

if its not functional space used in the box i dont want it

[pure garnet]

like the box is deadass probably the size of the 5090 master box

[merry stirrup]

fat box of hw and packaging nothing else thanks

[merry stirrup]

jfc thank you evga 😭

[steel stream]

wait floppa are you buying a 2070s from kyoko?

[pure garnet]

worlds most convoluted trade

[merry stirrup]

hes taking my mpower to blow up the 12900KS

[merry stirrup]

yeah atp im just asking him to throw in his ewaste

[steel stream]

turding :(

[merry stirrup]

not for me i dont care!

15 year old lil bro

[pure garnet]

yeah floppa just insta reselling it

[steel stream]

who are you, Ennui?

[merry stirrup]

going to my irl homies lil bro

[steel stream]

ah

[merry stirrup]

yes actually

[merry stirrup]

yeah he doesnt need a real gpu

5300G individual

[merry stirrup]

my homie paid for it before i even decided

[steel stream]

damn

[merry stirrup]

which is why i said youre a lucky floppa

cause he forced me to do the trade 😭

[pure garnet]

lmfao

[merry stirrup]

but i get profit off the mpower and i dont feel bad for scamming mac totally

(i didnt scam mac but a "100$" mpower is funny)

[pure garnet]

doohickey 🔥

[merry stirrup]

the doohickey is so fun

never liked a post readout more than that one

[pure garnet]

how long is the cable for the doohickey

[merry stirrup]

fucking extremely

[pure garnet]

my 2nd pc is on the floor

[merry stirrup]

this is not a leave it in the case scenario

[pure garnet]

oh word

[merry stirrup]

quite long its nice

i was able to route it stupidly though my d31 and i still had enough cable to put it on my desk

[pure garnet]

yeah i'll probably just pop a pcie slot open and

let it wrap around

[frank zealot]

I'm kinda impressed that I used a drill to open up the end of a PCIE 1x slot

[merry stirrup]

its literally the most useful oc feature a board could have

i dont have to fold myself like a freak (under my desk) to press or short the power pins

clear cmos on there to its peak

[merry stirrup]

we know theres nothing wrong with it but it is still quite odd

ive never had the need to do that

[frank zealot]

the gbit NIC I installed wasn't 1x, it was x4

[merry stirrup]

how the hell

[frank zealot]

idk why, but it was

[merry stirrup]

whys it need so many gbits bro

quite strange lmao

[frank zealot]

yus

so I opened up the slot, and quickly tested and it seems to be running fine

[merry stirrup]

meh if it works it twerks

quite incredible

a hard mod of interesting sorts

[frank zealot]

I just wish any short PCIE slots came with an open end

it's not like it'd change any fucking costs

[dark prism]

#1438219980893061202

[frank zealot]

Hey, I wanna build a PC, pls help...

[devout ridge]

Hey I wanna build a pc pls help...*

[topaz veldt]

Dream PC

[turbid locust]

AYO?

The only game I want in that I’ve already bought but lol

[pure garnet]

you need an ea copy to go with your steam copy

[merry stirrup]

damn it cali computers for not having this offer

i coulda had borderlands 4 and been disappointed

[pure garnet]

i made out like a bandit with mine

bf6 phantom + ac shadows expensive + star wars outlaws gold

[topaz veldt]

Bro the intel deals are so good

[merry stirrup]

10$ ifixit kit on newegg

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQykvrAR_po

[pure garnet]

sold out already i thought

[merry stirrup]

i love this guy

[merry stirrup]

idk the app gave me a noti (that i didnt agree to)

[pure garnet]

yeah the coupon dead

[merry stirrup]

damn that blows

[pure garnet]

who wants to wake up early for this one

[merry stirrup]

is that good

oh actually yeah its not bad

[turbid locust]

I might grab Dying Light, I liked one of the games before

[merry stirrup]

9600x 215$ w a free bequiet cooler

not bad

[brisk jolt]

I might go for the lianli multi directional vertical mount ngl

[merry stirrup]

i like my vertical gpu it looks cool

but its only cool cause it was free

and it works at pcie gen5 allegedly i dont have it set to pcie 5 lol

[brisk jolt]

My normal riser cable is fucked

[pure garnet]

i run mine at gen 5 and it does

[merry stirrup]

fire

[brisk jolt]

I can do a knockoff multi directionsl facing upward with the FormD riser lmao

Granted has its own risks, went to put it back to horizontal

[merry stirrup]

these are my facorite bad laptops

[topaz veldt]

Weird I do not remember buying

[pure garnet]

valve announced the steam cube

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

[merry stirrup]

yooo yoo yoo

[topaz veldt]

Estimated repair date on my 5090 TUF OC of 11-18, I feel like it has bad VRAM

[merry stirrup]

mmm nevermind

[topaz veldt]

DisplayPort 1.4. HDMI 2.0.

wtf pos

[merry stirrup]

3584 cores

[topaz veldt]

They could have done something cool

[pure garnet]

only gigabit ethernet 🥱

[merry stirrup]

its like a 50% faster gpu than the ps5

[pure garnet]

my rv is faster than that

[merry stirrup]

with a worse/equal cpu

and quite bad ram

[pure garnet]

no that cpu is gonna be better

ps5 is zen 2 and cut cache

[edgy laurel]

genuinely curious if they were even able to replicate it

[merry stirrup]

oh i thought ps5 was tolerable my bad

[topaz veldt]

I hope so - I mean I was able to on multiple machines. The most telling wtfery other than crashing was pre-loading shaders in COD - it took like 10-15 mins on that GPU. If I swapped in another 5090, cleared shaders, it took like 90 secs.

to me that sounds like VRAM or something

[edgy laurel]

and thats against the companies. I get the opinion that they don't do a whole lot of reading of the description of the problem and sometimes the time it would take to show a problem

[topaz veldt]

so my secret with RMA is do the online shit and tell them whatever, but then I print out bulleted list of "How it fails/How to reproduce:"

and its in there as a paper with a paper screenshot of whatever error, etc.

They can ignore it, but its right there

[pure garnet]

i sent evga screenshots of my gpu artifacting and they just skipped all the intermediary stuff

[topaz veldt]

There used to be a tool like memtest86 but for VRAM

[edgy laurel]

there was an AMD tool

but it was for certain cards

[topaz veldt]

yeah and it only worked up to like 8GB

[edgy laurel]

it could even tell you which module was bad, IIRC

[topaz veldt]

yup

[edgy laurel]

random would know

[merry stirrup]

nvidia MODS/MATS

i dont think youll find a version that works on 50 series cards leaked yet though but you never know

[topaz veldt]

right

[merry stirrup]

thats a real internal nvidia tool thats used for memory testing

[topaz veldt]

I took photos of the card before I mailed it in

[edgy laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=esORhmH_DzA

[merry stirrup]

apparently it at least works on 4090s

[edgy laurel]

weird, so in chrome it translated it

[topaz veldt]

Should be able to tell if any modules are different

[merry stirrup]

well you got samsung memory so maybe theyll be cool and rpelace it with hynix

[topaz veldt]

whom knows

Is there any issue with Samsung

[merry stirrup]

i mean its based off ddr5 memory, what vendor clocks the best rn

[topaz veldt]

I know there is some speed

I should have got pics of the back

Ah I did

[dense hatch]

hi guys where can i get tech support for this kind of issue

[topaz veldt]

oh boy

download Crystal Disk Info

[vagrant cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3ru09HTng

[merry stirrup]

not any real issues if that was what youre asking

[dense hatch]

ill try i guess?

[merry stirrup]

youll just clock faster on hynix more than likely

[topaz veldt]

just wondering if failure frequency is higher

[merry stirrup]

i dont think so

[topaz veldt]

truth is you just max out vram slider anyway

[vagrant cargo]

wel well i heard deckard for awhile so its nice to see a physical version

[edgy laurel]

assuming this is a laptop

@dense hatch

[merry stirrup]

yah but vram straps, blah

[dense hatch]

yes

[merry stirrup]

vendor to vendor the straps are different, basically mem timings on a gpu, theyre prebaked for the memory manu

[dense hatch]

theres 10 different websites to download it from, is this safe

[merry stirrup]

the RX 570 memory strap method was to copy the strap for lower memory freqs (and therefore its lower timings) and copy them to the high strap

[edgy laurel]

crystaldiskinfo is the default tool for reading diagnostic information. you'll want to do that and show the results here.

[merry stirrup]

so yeah ive changed timings on even my gpus before

[dense hatch]

alr thanks ill just download the first result ig

[edgy laurel]

however that error you're getting is from this app, which I also have

the error is telling you to open it

it may also have useful information

[dense hatch]

why is it just anime girls.. 😭

[dense hatch]

no option to download anything that looks like that

my options are pick an anime girl or pick smth that looks like its out of 1995

[edgy laurel]

ok back up, you're confused

[dense hatch]

nope, this was the first page

[merry stirrup]

"the error youre getting is from a different app"

[dense hatch]

hol on lemme try different websites

[merry stirrup]

bro read his message

💀 😭

[edgy laurel]

You received an error from an already installed application on your PC called Intel Optane Memory and Storage Management. I have this app too, for the same reason you do. Nothing to download, you're already running it.

[merry stirrup]

youre doin too much hes saying not to download cdi rn

[edgy laurel]

That app literally tells you in the error you posted to open it for more information.

[dense hatch]

oh

alr well

[edgy laurel]

However

[dense hatch]

"no valid disk pairs in your system"

[edgy laurel]

I don't know what thats going to tell you about this issue, and most people here all know that CrystalDiskInfo is the default go-to for drive diagnostics. That would have to be downloaded, and its available without anime girls if you just scroll down.

[dense hatch]

ok i did diagnostics

[dense hatch]

what does that mean?

[edgy laurel]

https://crystalmark.info/en/download/

[pure garnet]

download the anime girl edition if you're cool

[dense hatch]

im no gooner

[edgy laurel]

it means for some reason you have that software but you don't actually have an Optane pair setup for whatever reason.

[topaz veldt]

I dunno if I can wait until after 11-18 for this GPU

[dense hatch]

im downloading from that link rn

would that help or do i need to do smth else

[edgy laurel]

No, it won't help, only why we're telling you to download it

[dense hatch]

aight well its downloaded

do i scan smth from that too?

[edgy laurel]

run it, select the correct drive and send a screenshot

how many drives do you have in this system anyway?

[dense hatch]

if you had the intelligence of an average human, i'd be a goldfish in this scenario. how do i run it and how do i select a drive?

[edgy laurel]

did you download the installer or the .zip?

[dense hatch]

installer

then ran the mexe

.exe*

should i just stream?

[edgy laurel]

so run it. double click, go through the installer

its like any other application

[dense hatch]

i did

it shows 52°C

[edgy laurel]

picture

[dense hatch]

96% smth smth and critial error somewhere

[wise bear]

cats are such wonderful creatures

[dense hatch]

doesnt allow screenshots for some reason

1 sec

[edgy laurel]

Win+Shift+S

[edgy laurel]

ladies and gentleman we finally got there lol

[dense hatch]

i think the stuff at the top might be a bit personal info

[edgy laurel]

and its a whole lot of nothing

[dense hatch]

remind me why i got a kernel ram issue shutdown

[wise bear]

not at all lmao

[dense hatch]

black screen, not even blue, and i KEEP GETTING THE WARNING MESSAGE

[edgy laurel]

i have no idea

[dense hatch]

dude

its scary idfk whats going on 😭

[wise bear]

turn off your overclock
or
your ram is bad

[edgy laurel]

I wonder why that Intel Optane software is installed at all, unless the failed drive was the optane memory module

[dense hatch]

im on laptop, so uhh yeahg

[edgy laurel]

and thats why it can't find a pair

[dense hatch]

i only now agreed to the user agreement btw

[dense hatch]

didnt even know it existed

[wise bear]

I really wish I had gotten optane when it was out

[edgy laurel]

thats my laptop now. 500GB main SSD and a 32GB Optane Memory module "paired"

[dense hatch]

it just says im not optane ready

[edgy laurel]

yeah then without digging further i dunno

CrystalDiskInfo isn't showing a problem with the single drive it can see

[dense hatch]

so peak

[leaden dawn]

Emmc? 💀

[vagrant cargo]

god the new steam controller looks awful to hold

[edgy laurel]

what?

[leaden dawn]

30gb

[merry stirrup]

that is a like decade old screenshot from the official site

[edgy laurel]

i don't understand

thats a screenshot from their website i just grabbed to show him what to download

[leaden dawn]

Oh. OK then.

[dense hatch]

is my laptop cooked as far as you can tell?

[merry stirrup]

seems fine

[edgy laurel]

quite the opposite, I don't see anything wrong with it

[merry stirrup]

uninstall intel app so the errors go away and just ignore it

[edgy laurel]

at least thats drive related

[dense hatch]

is it not pairing an issue..?

[merry stirrup]

disable windows notifications if you feel so inclined

[dense hatch]

or is it normal

[merry stirrup]

is it actively working rn

[edgy laurel]

can just uninstall that Intel app

[dense hatch]

as an application its running right now

[merry stirrup]

is the computer on

[dense hatch]

yes

[merry stirrup]

in the operating system, and working

[edgy laurel]

floppa what I don't know and not sure if we're going to find out is if there was a pair with a small Optane module and that disappeared

[dense hatch]

idk man it says my storage is ok but my memory is screwed

[merry stirrup]

maybe w11 update nuked the driver for it

[edgy laurel]

what is saying your memory is screwed

[dense hatch]

the shutdowns

[merry stirrup]

blue screen

[dense hatch]

"your computer encountered a critical error and needs to restart"

[merry stirrup]

yeah bsod

[dense hatch]

BLACK screen*

[merry stirrup]

shut up

[edgy laurel]

i'm can't speak to that, didn't know anythign about that. thought we were helping with the Intel error messages

[dense hatch]

meow

[merry stirrup]

judging by the intel error and memory management error

[dense hatch]

idk if its different i didnt mean to offend or annoy

[merry stirrup]

and that its a laptop

my only guess is that it maybe shook loose the ram and optane module

[dense hatch]

i mean the battery linked to the motherboard is barely connected, does that affect anything

[merry stirrup]

not after power on

at least if this is like idela scenarios like its plugged in or something

[edgy laurel]

been poking around inside the laptop?

[merry stirrup]

no youre fine lol

[dense hatch]

some guy told me to clear MPAC or smth, i think it was bios idk the acronyms

[merry stirrup]

cmos

mpac is so far away from that that im worried im wrong

[dense hatch]

i disconnected a circular battery and now its hanging on by dear life after i reconnected it

[edgy laurel]

wonder if there was something Optane related in the BIOS and the cmos clear wiped it

[dense hatch]

no cmos is right i remember now

[merry stirrup]

perhaps

[dense hatch]

i did that AFTER these problems began tho

[edgy laurel]

ah

[merry stirrup]

imo if the computer is working and boots to the OS, id disrgeard it and uninstall the app

optane deciding not to work one day is not the end of the world

[edgy laurel]

ya, uninstall the Intel optane app

[merry stirrup]

you end up with an imperceptibly slower computer its not that deep

[edgy laurel]

its clearly not serving a purpose right now anyway

[merry stirrup]

ya

[dense hatch]

yueah but my gameplay isnt choppy, but it does have 3-5 seconds of pure freezing sometimes

thats when i get that message from intel again

[edgy laurel]

ok gotta stop jumping to completely different things lol

[jaunty horizon]

Can anyone help me? I am trying to build my first ever pc i need helping picking the parts

[merry stirrup]

reseat evetything is all we can say for a laptop lowkey

[dense hatch]

i thought its related to memory issues

[edgy laurel]

#1106613567966429224

[jaunty horizon]

did

[merry stirrup]

reseat, reinstall windows, replace the ram

run OCCT memory with nothing else overnight and see if you come back to memory errors

somewhat quickest way to diagnose if your ram is erroring

[dense hatch]

no mone to replace ram

that stuffs expensive!1!!

[pure garnet]

job :/

[merry stirrup]

ddr4 sodimms are some of the cheapest things out

[merry stirrup]

no working computer!!

[dense hatch]

no one is accepting me :(

[pure garnet]

https://jobs.mchire.com

[merry stirrup]

youre geniunely paying like 10$ a stick

i have 2x 16GB DDR4 sodimms if your ram is actually bad

[dense hatch]

im in DE

[edgy laurel]

you've got that link on speed dial

[pure garnet]

it was $16 for 16gb yesterday

[pure garnet]

it's seared into my head because it's so memorable

i just type it out by hand every time

[dense hatch]

uhhh 10 dollars? it showed me 60 euros minimum cheapest

[edgy laurel]

speaking of is it a current meme for people to censor the word job

[pure garnet]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

huh

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup im gonna get one of these for the mpower

[dense hatch]

kyoko i applied to ALDIS and they didnt want me

[wise bear]

dont it has an std

[pure garnet]

oh yeah

[dense hatch]

no job is a guarantee, so im not paying 120 euros for new RAM

[edgy laurel]

RVS are worse

[dense hatch]

idk whats rvs

[edgy laurel]

(i don't either)

[topaz veldt]

lol

[pure garnet]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/227072584883

25 euro brother

[wise bear]

respiratory synctical virus you fucking nerds

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-boy-aborddelimpala-the-boys-words-up-gif-26118496

[dense hatch]

scusi

he has 1 on stock 🥀

[wise bear]

pays to have some medical knowledge

[heavy mantle]

okay dr house

[pure garnet]

you only need 1

it's a 2x8 kit

[dense hatch]

1 sec

[wise bear]

It's sometimes lupus

[edgy laurel]

would you travel all the way to to Petra in Jordan and dress up as Indiana just for this picture?

[wise bear]

either 5nail or jorj would

[edgy laurel]

ngl i might

[wise bear]

[edgy laurel]

but i don't like standing out

[wise bear]

Same, lemme just blend into the crowd

[merry stirrup]

i will hurt

[dense hatch]

@pure garnet

oops wrong guy

this was the cheapest option

[dense hatch]

WHERE ARE YOU FINDING THOSE

[merry stirrup]

ebay.de

[dense hatch]

scam, theyre not showing up for me

[merry stirrup]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/357887695311?

[edgy laurel]

thats not what a sca.. nevermind

[pure garnet]

are you sure you went to the right aldi for the interview

[dense hatch]

not even an interview jsut straight up rejection

they said they were looking for new workers

they still are. that was 6 months ago.

[merry stirrup]

good deals

[vestal granite]

valve deckard looks too good to be true but its valve so its probably not good enough to be true they'll be cancelling it next week

[edgy laurel]

did you show up to an interview in cutoff jorts and a tanktop or something?

[dense hatch]

hol on "timein507" boutta look him up

[dense hatch]

there wasnt even an interview

[edgy laurel]

that wasn't the point lol

[merry stirrup]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/227072584883?

[serene sonnet]

Dropping by for my by montly questions, I have a USB flash drive that I long ago said is long gone because windows wouldn't recognize it at all, on 2 different systems and my Xbox, confirmed my suspicions, Linux kernel on a live boot won't even recognize the usb flash drive being plugged in. When it's this bad, it's basically over as far as an end user can go, right?

[pure garnet]

ankle length jorts are meta

[edgy laurel]

thats confusing my poor brain

[merry stirrup]

those are just jeans

[wise bear]

[wise bear]

girl, stop

[merry stirrup]

okay my bad the aladdin fit

[dense hatch]

bru

[edgy laurel]

if gparted can do nothing with it, its probably a lost cause

[wise bear]

Please shoot me if I'm ever caught wearing that

[dense hatch]

yeah im not gonna be able to fix it am i

[pure garnet]

i’ve never owned a pair in my life but they’re ridiculous to look at

[dense hatch]

gonna beg my friend in bosnia for new ram when i meet him on holidays

[wise bear]

its like leg skirts

[edgy laurel]

i'm getting jynco vibes but shorter

[serene sonnet]

Can't touch it with gparted if the kernel doesn't even recognize it being plugged in 😅

[merry stirrup]

see id wear jyncos happily not those

[merry stirrup]

okay not that baggy but close

[edgy laurel]

that was a time

[merry stirrup]

i wear pretty baggy jeans often

[edgy laurel]

that I did not participate in

[merry stirrup]

although black

[topaz veldt]

me either

[serene sonnet]

And this is why I dislike USB drives

[merry stirrup]

and not linux

[dense hatch]

do i need to do anything if im changing ram?

[merry stirrup]

what

[merry stirrup]

nah youre good broski

[edgy laurel]

if you have one thing fail and that turns you off of all of said thing forever, life is going to get difficult lol

[merry stirrup]

take it out plop it in, works

[dense hatch]

like i just turn off my pc, disassemble the back, just swap the ram out, and i dont have to boot or download or reset nothing?

[merry stirrup]

no

[dense hatch]

thx

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-rollerblade-matrix-gif-9813173044290140999

[merry stirrup]

no

[merry stirrup]

this is how i pull up to the function

[dense hatch]

this gif is loading like a printer from the 1970s

ok thanks for everything

im gonna go now im probably gonna dunk my laptop in water soon

[merry stirrup]

we wont help you fix it that time

[dense hatch]

thanks

[merry stirrup]

meow

[serene sonnet]

It's my third USB flash drive that failed, in order SanDisk 16GB, Kingston datatraveler 16GB, PNY 64GB. I mean they just aren't good for my use case, semi frequently accessed and written to, they are great for small file moving, Linux live boots install media, toolkits, but not for my use case from personal experience, or I just had bad luck in the silicone lottery.

[merry stirrup]

silicon

its not that deep but all i can imagine reading "silicone lottery" is cutting open a bunch of tubes of silicone hoping for something else

[serene sonnet]

My bad, auto correct isn't familiar with correct spellings on non English language, Ty for correcting tho

[merry stirrup]

silicone is that rubbery stuff you can pump out, silicon the chip

[serene sonnet]

Yeah gotcha, it was a genuine error

[merry stirrup]

meow

[edgy laurel]

thats what I immediately imagine

[wraith steeple]

My life is already on hard mode

[pure garnet]

flash drives aren’t really for heavy writes

[dense hatch]

@merry stirrup

[pure garnet]

same as sd cards

[dense hatch]

you have sent that message more times than ive chatted here

[merry stirrup]

yeah ive been here a couple years

[serene sonnet]

Yeah, I was younger when these happened, nowadays I use more standard things like HDDs or SSDs, though usually for bulk storage HDDs

[dense hatch]

ive been here for 2.5 and you still got more in 1 specific kind of message

[merry stirrup]

4 months will be 4 years

[merry stirrup]

yeah i dont come here when i only need help though im just a loser with no life

[young void]

Anddd my modest means lawyer doesn't do trials and the only other one isnt available till nearly February

What is lifeee

[dense hatch]

hey, cant blame me for not understanding tech

[wise bear]

my guy some of us have been here for years

[dense hatch]

im gonna ignore that

[young void]

Im simply a ghost in sheet

[merry stirrup]

i can

[young void]

[dense hatch]

wheres my fault in not comprehending the magic you guys do

[merry stirrup]

hurrr

[edgy laurel]

I feel like if the old channels I was in weren't hidden this number would be a lot bigger

[dense hatch]

this is NOT math

[merry stirrup]

clearly you should know

[dense hatch]

bruh

[wraith steeple]

[young void]

Silly geese

[dense hatch]

i sed

[wraith steeple]

What's mine? I can't see it via mobile and can't use the rig ATM

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

fuckin nerd

[devout ridge]

i feel inadequate

[merry stirrup]

good

[fringe vigil]

Yo my guy troll boy

[edgy laurel]

i remember when i think it was pc-hardware was shuttered, my post count went from like 90k to 4k

[dense hatch]

hi jorj

[merry stirrup]

dayumn

[dense hatch]

im sorry, i dont remember you

[turbid locust]

can you check mine? It doesn’t show total on mobile lol

[wraith steeple]

Welp it's going to stagnate a good bit pretty soon since IRL is hitting me like a semi truck on a Texas highway

[edgy laurel]

this should go well

[edgy laurel]

80k

[merry stirrup]

fuck man

[turbid locust]

lol

[merry stirrup]

this is real

[dense hatch]

80k messages in 3.5 years

[turbid locust]

ok

[dense hatch]

63 messages a day

everyday

[low sorrel]

same

[dense hatch]

around 100~

100 messages a day is pretty high

[low sorrel]

ok im not that high

[edgy laurel]

thats gotta be a lie, jerry

[merry stirrup]

yooo mini dominators

[edgy laurel]

these are adorable

[merry stirrup]

3/4 of my messagess are one word and shitposts

another 3/4 (somehow) is ram

[dense hatch]

@topaz veldt

YOU HAVE

181 MESSAGES A DAY

[turbid locust]

ok?

[wraith steeple]

Over 26K from the span of 4 years (when I First originally joined)

[topaz veldt]

no one cares about forums

[wraith steeple]

[dense hatch]

impressively high numbers, i dont interact that much with servers

[edgy laurel]

and they bitches

[turbid locust]

ok.

[merry stirrup]

3.5 years for me

[dense hatch]

ok.

[merry stirrup]

we just meow

the ehomies. where else can i talk about ddr5 and 4 overclocking so mcuh

[dense hatch]

the 500 messages of just meow:

[edgy laurel]

forums 4 lyfe

[topaz veldt]

I am thinking fireplace weather

[young void]

But cocoa

[dense hatch]

have you ever smelled like a chain smoker for a week

[topaz veldt]

no

[dense hatch]

thats what its like to make a campfire :D

[edgy laurel]

woodfire smells completely different

[topaz veldt]

I guess if you smoke campfires

[dense hatch]

i must be using rotten wood then

[wraith steeple]

Having grown up with smokers I can confirm

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[dense hatch]

oh

[merry stirrup]

👍

campfire= pleasant

[dense hatch]

dont let the mods see chat rn

[merry stirrup]

tobacco= y must you do this to me im like 7 mom roll the window down

[edgy laurel]

One of the best smells is on a crisp fall day and catching the scent of fires in the air

[wraith steeple]

I've had some in my family start smoking at the age of 9 and 10

[dense hatch]

this is like watching kurzgesagt go from making videos about science to videos about drugs, just like how the chat is going from pc to weed

[young void]

My dad in the old red camaro like

[merry stirrup]

exactly

[topaz veldt]

we get this at like 5PM each evening for the last day or two

[merry stirrup]

real

my neighbors have a wood stove its pleasant

[topaz veldt]

My wife wanted to stay in FL but i was like nah we're going back to that crisp air

[merry stirrup]

they HAVE to be making bread with it, it smells heavenly at 8pm usually

like i start floaating out the window type shit

toward afformentioned smell

[whole coral]

I love fall

[topaz veldt]

I keep my window cracked this tiem of year its so nice

[whole coral]

It’s so nice today. Currently 45F

[merry stirrup]

bro

[topaz veldt]

50F here

[merry stirrup]

i would. but outside our back door (my room is above it)

theres a bush that attracts wasps somehow

so i have my window fucking sealed shut

[topaz veldt]

Damn

[merry stirrup]

its terrible

i look out my window and deadass see like 6 on the outside of it

after like 5 of them got in i was done

[topaz veldt]

My wife is going to the hardscape place on Saturday to drop off a check 😐

[merry stirrup]

its annoying dogfighting with a wasp at 2am just so i can go to bed

[merry stirrup]

minus all the racks

[topaz veldt]

wot

[merry stirrup]

dropping off monies

[topaz veldt]

yeah 🙁

[merry stirrup]

[topaz veldt]

she snuck in an upgrade that was like 30% more expensive on the whole project

[merry stirrup]

augh

[topaz veldt]

I can't give her a hard time I spend such stupid money

[edgy laurel]

its the best. shame it goes by so fast and then we're just a frozen wasteland

[topaz veldt]

A frozen OC wasteland

[edgy laurel]

truuuuue

[merry stirrup]

🙏

i was running 1.7 mvdd/no fan cause of how cold it was

[topaz veldt]

I picked up corian counter tops from a friend

My plan was to make a nice AF benchtop out in the shed before the cold hits

Dunno if I will have time

but basically a nice kithcen counter type top with a base so I can setup an OC workshop out there

[edgy laurel]

wait, were people talking about this and I missed it. https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

[topaz veldt]

yes

[pure garnet]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

oh

[topaz veldt]

specs kinda ass

[merry stirrup]

yeah we kinda dis;like it

[edgy laurel]

28CU

[merry stirrup]

it allegedly uses mini SD as storage

[edgy laurel]

bah

[pure garnet]

it's like a 7600m mobile

[merry stirrup]

quite ass

[pure garnet]

[merry stirrup]

7600mobile mobile

[edgy laurel]

can't they make CPU thats reasonable but with the GPU from the 395 Plus/max thing

[pure garnet]

im gonna smack your gpu against my desk

[edgy laurel]

8060S i believe

[merry stirrup]

hey man its tylers gpu

[pure garnet]

i'll boot it before i pack it up

[vestal granite]

whys it ass

[merry stirrup]

something about valve and nintendo not liking on gen hw cause its expensiv

[edgy laurel]

and a normal amount of RAM/VRAM

[merry stirrup]

(theyre cheap and cant design a product efficiently enough to hit good budget targets)

[edgy laurel]

like strix halo as it is is too expensive

[vestal granite]

valve does not have budget targets

[pure garnet]

nintendo doesn't do products at a loss

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[vale cosmos]

does mini sd still exist??

[edgy laurel]

but a more reasonable CPU compbined with just the graphics portion of strix halo and like 32/48GB of shared memory

[merry stirrup]

30w 6 core cpu 🤑

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately

its going to work as a gaming rig on release my issue is that its not going to last very long as one

[edgy laurel]

wanna see a teardown. looking for one if it exists

[merry stirrup]

at least for the modern gaming purposes i feel like a lot of people will buy it for

8GB vram and 16GB system ram kind of useless

[vale cosmos]

can you even get a mini sd thats bigger than 16gb? am i confused here?

[edgy laurel]

they're specifically targeting normal, casual gamers.

so its all intended

[merry stirrup]

i think you are im lost

theres 1tb mini SD cards

[vale cosmos]

do you mean micro sd?

[merry stirrup]

i assume that the steam machine uses an internal NVME (hopefully, fuck) and the user expandable option is micro sd

[merry stirrup]

yes is that not hte same thing

[edgy laurel]

I can't say i've ever used minisd

[vale cosmos]

no mini sd is this weird middle child

[merry stirrup]

fuck you both,, when i google mini sd i only get micro sd results

[vale cosmos]

lmao i was so confused

[merry stirrup]

😭

[edgy laurel]

kept saying mini and tbh i was confused as I didn't realize that existed

never encountered anything that used it

[merry stirrup]

yeah honestly i thought that was the same thing as micro

me neither, google thinks i meant microsd which i did lol

[low sorrel]

wtf is mini sd

that existed?

[merry stirrup]

truly didnt know either

[edgy laurel]

interesting

[vale cosmos]

i thought it died in the like 2010s

[edgy laurel]

The SD Association (SDA) adopted miniSD later that year as a small-form-factor extension to the SD card standard, intended primarily for use in mobile phones. However, the format was largely phased out by 2008 following the introduction of the even smaller microSD card

[sturdy yoke]

theres no point in miniSD so they killed it, kinda like the old vcr tapes for cam corders

[merry stirrup]

i mean clearly lol

[low sorrel]

you know you didn't catch on when you don't even have your own wikipedia article and in the one your mentioned in you have a (now obsolete)

[edgy laurel]

wait, the Steam Machine says MicroSD so why are we even talking about this

[sturdy yoke]

tism lol

[little geyser]

whhy do i smell that valve is about to turbo dunk on both playstation and meta

[merry stirrup]

i said minisd thinking it was the same

[little geyser]

xbox is just a non factor since its basically just moving towards being a branded mini PC at this point

[vale cosmos]

and i was really confused

[edgy laurel]

oh

MS is clearly moving towards turning Xbox into a brand and not just a physical device you buy

[low sorrel]

when we get macro sd cards

[vale cosmos]

likely wont, good for enthustiasts, but linux is still a turn off for alot of consumers

[edgy laurel]

which is fine, you do you

[vale cosmos]

CF express!

[little geyser]

idk man, with the way console pricing is going i can see the steam machine being competitive

[merry stirrup]

the second they insist on my pc really being called an xbox is when im gonna swap

[little geyser]

and meta has had no competition outside of china for years

[low sorrel]

wait what it uses nvme?

[edgy laurel]

you missed the era of CF

[merry stirrup]

CF express is like old old

yeah i love it

imo theyre very cool and basically as small as removable storage mediums need to be

[low sorrel]

honestly i don't understand microsd cards instead of normal sd cards for like 99% of things

[little geyser]

like steam OS linux really isnt a conventional linux experience, now its basically just console equivilent

[wraith steeple]

In the retro computing scene, CF was a popular alternative for storage for 386/486 and early Pentium builds

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[vale cosmos]

youll see cf express cards in video cameras and such. my black magic couldn't do 4k to an sd card

[merry stirrup]

still is, i see CF to IDE all the time

[turbid locust]

literally pre configured arch but okay

[merry stirrup]

or in ipods

[little geyser]

yes, but in terms of user experience?

dont try tell me that using steam OS is the same as using arch for the average consumer

[edgy laurel]

The intended experience

[little geyser]

becuase you know that is a load of bollocks

[keen wigeon]

breaking into the console market as a newcomer is going to be ultra difficult considering PS/Xbox owns it. Look at what happened to any other console. They turned into a dumpster fire.

[turbid locust]

If you want to do literally anything outside of steam, yes

[keen wigeon]

Steam machines were already a thing and they died in the womb

[vale cosmos]

this isnt quite true. i had some friends who did run into some problems and needed to go to me for help

[little geyser]

yes, but do you need to do anything outside of steam for a steam machine?

[merry stirrup]

bro respectfully microsoft is no longer in the convo imo

[low sorrel]

To be honest I will never only use linux until EVERY game i want to play is on linux

[vale cosmos]

they are saying its a computer??

[low sorrel]

I don't care that I can play like 90% of my games

[little geyser]

the video literally was angling it at he console market from what i saw

[turbid locust]

Real

[low sorrel]

im not moving OS's to lose 10% of the games i wanna play

[merry stirrup]

youre paying 2TB nvme drive prices (say for a ps5) for 1TB expansion

they used to be well over 200$ too

that is the cost of a gaming computer

[low sorrel]

can't you diy it?

[merry stirrup]

theres just no fuckin way man

[little geyser]

its a 'gaming PC' yet every single peice of parketing, including the controller they are advertising it with is angling it as a playstation competitor

[merry stirrup]

yes no kinda

theres adaptors, they only work with specific SSDs and specific versions of that ssd

[little geyser]

it is a gaming PC in so far as you can use it as a PC if you want, which is the way consoles are going anyway

[turbid locust]

see @edgy laurel ‘s screenshot lmao

[keen wigeon]

hopefully Valve is able to pull this off

[merry stirrup]

theyre also detectable and allegedly bannable

[turbid locust]

new pfp almost didn’t recognize you

[vale cosmos]

yea that was my point lol

[merry stirrup]

basically microsoft is a terrible company and wants the lock every consumer into a new proprietary tech each gen

[edgy laurel]

Y'all can just scroll through here to see how they're angling it. https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

[little geyser]

what screenshots?

[edgy laurel]

#tech-chat-2 message

[turbid locust]

The one he sent about 4 seconds ago

[keen wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-commentary-lets-go-strategy-gif-13609518

[turbid locust]

Nice DNS dumbass

[edgy laurel]

its all on the page, linked above

[keen wigeon]

steamdeck is a hit within a niche community compared to the console market. Let's see how it plays out.

[merry stirrup]

youre the resident evil guy

[vale cosmos]

no they are advertising it as a computer

[little geyser]

your trying to tell me that isnt trying to angle it as a console alternative that can also be used as a PC

[low sorrel]

lol

[merry stirrup]

hey so also used as a pc still means its a computer bro

[edgy laurel]

console peasants learn they can get into PC gaming (as many want to do) with a simple box that they're used to, this may be a hit

[merry stirrup]

have we lost the plot

[little geyser]

like that "your games on the big screen" is literally the first thing on the page

[turbid locust]

aight go video edit on an Xbox idgaf

[merry stirrup]

😭

[sturdy yoke]

m.2 per chance?

[keen wigeon]

the biggest barrier is multiplayer and anti-cheat

[low sorrel]

fun fact I was in a discord call with a couple of people who were playing resident evil and thats how they figured out my name

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[keen wigeon]

if you can't get multiplayer, it will flop as a mass market console

[little geyser]

literally the way xbox is going, they are starting to just rebrand things and make it a hybrid console PC experience with the xbox pc app and the xbox ally

[keen wigeon]

but still a neat little box

[merry stirrup]

xbox things right here

[little geyser]

most games are crossplay now anyway

[little geyser]

wow, you scrolled half way down the page

[edgy laurel]

Surely multiplayer works find in many cases. There are notable outliers but thats not going to be a barrier forever if Valve has any say

[keen wigeon]

that's not what I mean

[merry stirrup]

yeah because its apart of the marketing

[vale cosmos]

fine its a pc with good controller support

[merry stirrup]

unlike you i have the capability of reading more than the headline

[turbid locust]

so Xbox can put the Xbox app on a pc and it’s a pc, but Steam can’t put Steam OS on a pc and it be a pc?

[merry stirrup]

maybe i want to know about the product im shit talking

maybe just maybe

[keen wigeon]

But BF6? If steam cant get buy in from big titles this can absolutely be a hit!

[little geyser]

your literally looking at this from the perspective of PC, you are so focussed on the word computer that you think that they are actually trying to sell their main audience, PC gamers a PC but worse

[topaz veldt]

Has anyone been playing BF6 much

[keen wigeon]

yeah I play it quite a bit

[turbid locust]

I did a bit and want to play more but I got distracted with work and Arc Raiders lol

[topaz veldt]

What GPU?

[little geyser]

that target just wouldnt work

[keen wigeon]

whatever is in the PS5

[topaz veldt]

ah damnit, i have a quesh for 5090 PC players

[frank zealot]

New GPU Sag Bracket?

[keen wigeon]

I don't bother with PC, if I can console it it happens

[merry stirrup]

its a mainstream pc thats designed to get console gamers into pc and pc gaming in a somewhat easy, familiar way lol

[keen wigeon]

I have it on PC, and played on 5090

[turbid locust]

Mark being a console gamer is a cerebral flashbang

[keen wigeon]

I don't have to deal with fuckery

[merry stirrup]

if the fact that it is also a computer isnt important i dont think a lot of people are going to buy it then

[topaz veldt]

so like... playing it for maybe 10 - 30 mins, alt-tab into Discord, and my mouse becomes a weird swirly tool to fuck up whatever 2D image is in discord/chrome

[little geyser]

its a PC that is designed to meet the form factor, ease of use, requirements and probably be close to the price point that console gamers expect. it is designed to compete with that marketspace

[merry stirrup]

im not buying a 500$ box that only plays video games

[turbid locust]

My brother in Christ you ARE the fuckery

[keen wigeon]

I haven't had that but my framerate drops to 25 after 15 minutes