tech-chat-2

[warped mountain]

I love the tow hitch 🤘

[edgy laurel]

i think someone just slammed a minivan

for reasons

[edgy laurel]

oh, one of those

[frank zealot]

pointlessly excessive speaker wall? lol yup

[warped mountain]

Yess! I miss being able to feel my music 😭 3500RMS on a long travel sub is an experience... Especially in a extended cab ranger 😍

[edgy laurel]

a niche of automotive stuff i'm not too into but yeah i'm sure that'll wake the neighborhood!

https://tenor.com/view/hairtrick-d4s-down4sound-car-audio-sundow-audio-gif-17875195

[warped mountain]

It was LOUD, like open the window and you could do a hair trick. Though that was more because the Cab space was so small so the percentage of air being moved by the woofer was quite High. It couldn't do it when I upgraded to the Silverado 😩

[frank zealot]

3 rows of quad 10" and 2 quad 12"?

Yeah, you'll hear that several blocks over

[steel stream]

bro this chess analyst been typing for a while

[modern coral]

Nerds, got a question, if I have two identical builds (assume overkill on all metrics with FRESH windows installs) except RAM.

Build A has 16GB of RAM
Build B has 128GB of RAM

Will Windows 11 (fresh install) idle with more RAM used (in terms of GB not percent) for build B?

-Typing for a while because I got a phone call in the middle of it...

[edgy laurel]

yes

[frank zealot]

16 vs 128gb? yes windows will allocate more RAM

[modern coral]

What will it max out at? Assume 1TB RAM.

[warped mountain]

When doing HBA should I just stick to SATA or would SAS make sense?

[frank zealot]

no fucking clue, it doesn't matter

[frank zealot]

SATA

[edgy laurel]

what? Build B has 128GB, what are you asking exactly?

[modern coral]

will there be a difference between 128GB and 1TB.

[edgy laurel]

probably, these aren't questions people usually have

[frank zealot]

considering no home platforms support 1TB RAM, who TF cares?

[modern coral]

i know i am writing a memo about this...

[steel stream]

1TB of ram just to put it in windows

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

[steel stream]

memo or manifesto

[edgy laurel]

just asking hypotheticals is fine I guess

Windows does a lot in the background to shuffle things around

[modern coral]

could be manifesto if i dont get my work PC that I am trying to make points for to get more RAM added to it...

We are getting new computers and they are shafting us with 8GB of RAM.

[frank zealot]

uhhhh

[edgy laurel]

8GB of RAM is unacceptable in 2025

[modern coral]

i know

[edgy laurel]

who are you trying to convince?

[modern coral]

COO of company who controls budget.

[frank zealot]

trying to make a point about 8GB by referencing 1TB is stupid.

Tell them that 16GB is baseline today, and 32GB is recc'd.

Are you in charge of IT?

[edgy laurel]

surprising 8GB is even sold anymore outside of the UBER cheap stuff

[modern coral]

I am wanting 32, we are on 16 now...

they are giving us great CPUs compared to what we have now (The new one will be Intel 14900f's.)

[edgy laurel]

this sounds like a war crime

[modern coral]

no I am an analyst

[frank zealot]

..... 14900f w 8GB RAM? What the actual fuck

[modern coral]

im not the one who designed their stupid budget for this

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

[steel stream]

yeah start writing the manifesto instead

[modern coral]

I think they are hoping these will be "AI capable or whatever" and someone told the moron in charge the CPU is what matters

[frank zealot]

Start by talking to the IT guy first.

[modern coral]

we dont have one

[edgy laurel]

8GB is going to severely hamstring that system from even running a browser and some Office applications at the same time. Windows 11 in stock form does not play nicely with that little wiggle room.

[frank zealot]

Who is specing out the PCs?

and what GPU is gonna be in them?

[edgy laurel]

critical question, given the CPU choice and mention of AI

[warped mountain]

Damn I can't QUITE get her to fit 😭

[frank zealot]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when the GPU has as much RAM as the PC

[edgy laurel]

man these are captioned and everything

[dusty lotus]

stock w11 uses around 4-5gb on idle with 8, same as with 16 and further

i have tried using it with 4gb before and it was ok

should probably retest it

[warped mountain]

Yeah, I'm hoping to find a case that I can stick in the bottom of this closet

[modern coral]

RTX PRO 4000 Blackwell

[frank zealot]

whoever is speccing that PC deserves to be fired

[pure garnet]

how in the hell are people putting that in a machine with 8gb ram

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-oh-no-scared-stunned-jaw-dropped-gif-16022254

[edgy laurel]

A browser with a few tabs and some other lighter productivity apps and you're going to be swapping all the time. Not to mention what is likely going to be single channel RAM. Ugh this is painful to even type out

[warped mountain]

A NAS case

[wise bear]

only exists to pick up soccer moms who like fast & furious

[edgy laurel]

i kinda like that choice lol

[frank zealot]

out of a cannon, at a castle wall

[dusty lotus]

"unused ram is useless ram" when the cpu usage spikes up from memory compression

[modern coral]

guys dont shoot me, i am just as upset lol hence why im writing a letter...

[dusty lotus]

for the most stable experience dual channel 16gb is ideal

[wise bear]

[wise bear]

eww, 32gb at a minimum pls

[pure garnet]

16gb is the minimum not ideal

[frank zealot]

1500$ GPUs

Hamstrung by not putting in another 50$ of RAM

[pure garnet]

it's not ddr3 anymore

[wise bear]

we ain't in windows 7 no more

[edgy laurel]

ngl i feel like this would be an easy case to make in writing

[steel needle]

yo is a 1k pc build actually viable in 2025

[modern coral]

i am asking for 2x32. and hopefully they will settle and get us 2x16

[dusty lotus]

few apps and edge open

[pure garnet]

yeah that's not selling us on ideal here

[dusty lotus]

ideal

[frank zealot]

depends on what you want out of it.

You can build a reasonable PC on 600-700 now, if you try

[merry stirrup]

this is my work machine i have nothing intense open

[dusty lotus]

my main has 32gb anyway

[pure garnet]

job

[edgy laurel]

2x16 should be the base spec for DDR5. Then again memory prices are INSANE right now.

[merry stirrup]

8gb would explode

[wise bear]

:3

[dusty lotus]

thats it im turning on my 3rd pc with 4gb

[steel needle]

i wanna play pc games again, mainly kinda higher in demand games that are coming out, and also use it for music production

[pure garnet]

why you have a pile of ewaste

[merry stirrup]

is this a shit standards contest

[pure garnet]

probably

gonna start hearing about how 4th gen intel is viable still in a bit

[topaz veldt]

I am selfishly loving it

[edgy laurel]

The same 2x16GB DDR5 6000CL30 kit I bought in 2022 for $260 is currently $280 on Newegg in 2025.

[topaz veldt]

Bro I bought a 6000 CL30 kit for like $115 a few months ago its like $200 now

[frank zealot]

at 1K$ you can build a 5060 TI 16GB PC (maybe a 5070 if you skimp elsewhere)
with solid overall specs.

[wise bear]

im so glad I got my 5070ti for msrp

[edgy laurel]

i'm just glad i'm not in the market ,really blows for those people.

[wise bear]

gobbless newegg

[topaz veldt]

Yeah - though do you remember when DDR5 launched?

[frank zealot]

RAM increases have gotten stupid bad

[edgy laurel]

thats what i'm talking about. We're back to those prices

wait, LAUNCHED, no

[steel needle]

what about say if i wanted like amd for the gpu? what card would u recommend

[topaz veldt]

Not quite - I remember when it was like 2020 and building a 7950X3D and 32GB was like $600

[edgy laurel]

like before October 2022 I was not paying attention to DDR5 prices

[frank zealot]

DDR5 is getting close to the launch price of CUDIMMS

[topaz veldt]

sorry 7950X in like 2022

[merry stirrup]

except for the memory i cant link here thats oddly good priced

8k cudimm 32gb for 160$

[edgy laurel]

i remember you and I bought basically identical G.Skill kits (you had the RGB version)

and paid like $20 more

[topaz veldt]

Yah, but I was standing in Micro Center before I had a system that used DDR5 and I swear it was $700

[frank zealot]

I would hands-down say get a 5060 TI 16GB over a 9060XT 16GB

But, if you really want AMD, it's either a 9060 XT 16GB or a 9070 (non-XT) with some skimping

[edgy laurel]

for 32GB?

[topaz veldt]

ya

[edgy laurel]

pain

[dusty lotus]

works fine

[merry stirrup]

until you do anything

[edgy laurel]

fine is variable

[dusty lotus]

single channel because it has 2 4gb sticks

[pure garnet]

single channel
2 sticks

[merry stirrup]

4gb * 2 = 8

[edgy laurel]

if you had another identical system with 32GB i'm sure there would be a massive difference

[merry stirrup]

how does this end up being 4

[steel needle]

i asked earlier abt amd earlier cuz i heard abt like nvidia not being the best option nowadays but ig thats changed, is it a good time now to be building a pc also or gpu shortage and other factors still fucking us over?

[pure garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kjMtPJ

[topaz veldt]

I can'd do MC but I swear I was in-store and it was like $500-700 for DDR5 5600 or osmething and I was like "lol this will never catch on"

[edgy laurel]

ok so yeah this is about what we paid.

[frank zealot]

GPUs are MSRP.

RAM is currently expensive AF tho

[edgy laurel]

maybe it wasn't 32GB

[topaz veldt]

no it def was

[dusty lotus]

taking one stick results in the fucking 4gb and i said 2 4gb sticks didnt i?

[topaz veldt]

I was window shopping and was like naaaah

[edgy laurel]

Hm

[frank zealot]

Also, anyone saying that NVidia isn't the best option is shilling another brand.

NVidia currently has all the best GPU Tech at its disposal.

[pure garnet]

bro i don't keep mental inventory of other people's ewaste pcs

[steel needle]

i seen that for ram im like why is it 200 dollars for 2 x 16 gb 😭

[pure garnet]

i just found it funny you said 2 sticks single channel

[frank zealot]

AI makin shit expensive

[edgy laurel]

it didn't hit me until today when I looked at that PCPP price history graph

[steel needle]

another added reason to the list of why AI sucks

[topaz veldt]

yeah - its going to be like this for about 2 years I'd say

[dusty lotus]

this wouldve been sufficient when this pc came out (2013)

[edgy laurel]

fuuuck

[warped mountain]

16GB isn't enough ...

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/v-color-manta-xfinity-rgb-32gb-ddr5-8000-cas-latency-cl38-memory-black-gold/p/

[pure garnet]

sanest thing kool has said

[merry stirrup]

I WISH i could link it

[steel needle]

but shit tho @frank zealot @pure garnet thanks for the help yall

[edgy laurel]

floppa like idgaf, i overclock

[topaz veldt]

yeas!

Actually Guilty whats wild is you get 8800 48GB for less than 32GB 6000

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/v-color-manta-xfinity-rgb-32gb-ddr5-8000-cas-latency-cl38-memory-black-gold/p

/0RN-00MB-000G4

[topaz veldt]

$/GB

[merry stirrup]

just combine the link man

[pure garnet]

lmfao

[edgy laurel]

whhhhhy

[topaz veldt]

popularity

[steel needle]

i really been out the loop for 5 years abt pc hardware and so when the time came to think abt upgrading, i just got no idea what im doing no more 😭

[warped mountain]

I would start at 32GB, and consider 64 depending on how often you like to upgrade, but that's just me .

[merry stirrup]

Z890 only, nobody knows that they can just buy that and clock it to ryzen timings

means allat shit ends up being insanely cheap

[edgy laurel]

Huh, fair. I did want to look at 48 or 64GB when Zen6 comes

[topaz veldt]

Thats how I was running 96GB 6400 Cl32 before er'one

[merry stirrup]

like 8k cudimms for 160$, literally cheaper than a 2x16gb kit otherwise

you cannot get cheaper ram or better ram

[topaz veldt]

which ones

[pure garnet]

this says $290 for me

[merry stirrup]

Vcolor

[merry stirrup]

DID THEY FIX IT

god damnit i shouldve bought them

it was 160$ earlier theres screenshots

[edgy laurel]

this says 404 not found for me

[pure garnet]

you gotta combo the links

because the filer gets mad

[merry stirrup]

oh actually its because

[edgy laurel]

oh

[merry stirrup]

the newegg official sold out

[edgy laurel]

HA, i see why

[topaz veldt]

Its $289 now

[frank zealot]

the world is fuckin' bonkers:

[merry stirrup]

which was 160

theres other stuff hollon

[dusty lotus]

i put back the other 4gb stick and fascinating it uses less than 3gb on a fresh start

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/v-color-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr5-6400-pc5-51200-cas-latency-cl32-memory-desktop-memory-black/p/
0RN-00MB-000U7?Item=0RN-00MB-000U7

thats a decent deal but not CKD sadly

[pure garnet]

filter bypass!!!

[merry stirrup]

this stuff doesnt show on PCPP

https://www.newegg.com/v-color-manta-xfinity-rgb-32gb-ddr5-8000-cas-latency-cl38-memory-white-silver/p/
0RN-00MB-000H7?Item=0RN-00MB-000H7

200$ CKD!!!

[pure garnet]

is that a die

[dusty lotus]

it immediately became much more responsive after putting the other 4gb

[topaz veldt]

Tons of RAM not on PCPP

[merry stirrup]

200$ CKD BUY BUY BUY

[steel stream]

@ mod

[edgy laurel]

i'd hope so! lol

[pure garnet]

any pc with 8gb of ram isn't worth using anyway

[merry stirrup]

scroll down here we go

you can add it to cart at 160 that way

[edgy laurel]

wait are you just testing in a VM?

[frank zealot]

oh my god the dumb filter bypass has done so many stupid things

[merry stirrup]

160 is literally the best deal on ram in a long time and we're during a shortage

[dusty lotus]

no its a physical pc

i have 3 that i use

[topaz veldt]

There is so much wrong with this

[merry stirrup]

yep but if its CKD and works

damn i think im gonna pick this up

[edgy laurel]

Um

[topaz veldt]

LOL like its offensive and confusing

[pure garnet]

oh which link

[merry stirrup]

most recent

[edgy laurel]

Comcast, you there?

[pure garnet]

okay

[topaz veldt]

I guess I am glad I have so many ram kits laying around

[merry stirrup]

why am i being scammed

bro im buying it while its in my cart at 160

[edgy laurel]

the only thing you don't probably have copies of laying around are motherboards

[topaz veldt]

Not any more lol

[pure garnet]

the white one?

[topaz veldt]

I was in a bad place w/ mobos not long ago

[merry stirrup]

it still show sit for me so idk

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

just dm me the link twin

[steel stream]

see idk if this means shortage or surplus for you it could be either or

[warped mountain]

None of that pricing looks crazy to me 🫤

[topaz veldt]

This was a weird time

[turbid locust]

need me some H24M fr

[wise bear]

16gb for $100 isn't wild to you??

[edgy laurel]

the box is so big

[steel stream]

i swear you already had some

[topaz veldt]

How can you not love this?

[warped mountain]

Did you look at my order screen shots

[turbid locust]

naw

[wise bear]

yeah you bought some wildly shit ram.

[turbid locust]

I just have funny H16A kits

[wise bear]

but then again you're kinda dumb so it tracks

[steel stream]

wait who else in here is running H24M kits

[dusty lotus]

did my message even send

[pure garnet]

me

[steel stream]

I know I am

[topaz veldt]

Nah its an illusion

[pure garnet]

yeah i wasn't wrong

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[warped mountain]

$140 for 6GB DDR3 and $200 for 16GB DDR4

[pure garnet]

haswell ewaste

[edgy laurel]

I just meant it seemed really thick

[dusty lotus]

haswell has questionable idle efficiency

[wise bear]

I appreciate that you don't refute the statements on your lack of intelligence

[topaz veldt]

It was like board + 1/2" underneath for the cables and shit

[merry stirrup]

www.newegg.com/v-color-48gb-ddr5-8400/p/
0RN-00MB-000N3

cheaper per gb (48GB) cudimm 8400 275$

[warped mountain]

Wym?

[topaz veldt]

its choad board effect

[wise bear]

bro

You continue to amaze me day after day

[warped mountain]

Assuming 450 height (closet tapers inward at top)
I have 370 wide x 315 depth x 450 tall to play with.

The node 804 (344 x 307 x 389 mm) won't fit unless I sit it on its face?? The N5 won't fit in any orientation. Any other good 10 drive NAS case that might fit? I don't normally shop on size lol

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-praying-garden-grace-glory-gif-9363012925023976842

[wise bear]

fuck you warship

Don't use fucking hard drives in a mobile trailer

[steel stream]

fractal define 7 xl

[topaz veldt]

When I worked at $DOD we were literally designing a SAN that went on airplanes for R&D datarecording.

It didn't work.

[wise bear]

@warped mountain do you type with only your index fingers

[warped mountain]

???? Wym ?? Where you here last night for like 4hrs?

[warped mountain]

I'm on my phone, so thumbs

[wise bear]

Doesn't answer my question

[wise bear]

bruhhh

[topaz veldt]

Guys I am looking for a cell phone with extremely low latency keyboard input

[warped mountain]

Case dimensions (LxWxH)
604 x 240 x 566 mm

[wise bear]

guys im looking for a router that also acts as a personal companion

[topaz veldt]

It was cool - we contracted a hard disk manufacturer to build ruggedized SAS drives that were actually RAID1 in one device

[warped mountain]

... "So thumbs"

[wise bear]

on a physical keyboard, fuckface 😭

[edgy laurel]

ok ok

[warped mountain]

Oh u didn't say that, no I use all my fingers

[topaz veldt]

All 3 of my fingers

https://tenor.com/view/et-extra-terrestrial-henry-thomas-elliot-alien-gif-4436482

[wise bear]

it's that banned pesticide he keeps huffing

[spiral quarry]

👀

[warped mountain]

It's too big sadly

[wise bear]

make a goddamn flash nas

[steel stream]

oh, bummer

[wise bear]

stop wasting our time with your insane, stupid concepts

[topaz veldt]

Needs 64+ TB usable

[wise bear]

ok so get a bunch of sata ssds

[topaz veldt]

Needs 4 GB/s writes

[dusty lotus]

the i3 despite being 35w idles at 8w where all of that is literally consumed by the rest of the die and not cores

[wise bear]

suck my ass, use an external drive

[topaz veldt]

needs redundancy

needs expandability

[wise bear]

4GB/s writes my ass

[topaz veldt]

has no network tho

[wise bear]

my ass or his server

[topaz veldt]

he has no network, needs 4GB/s

its all wifi or something

[pure garnet]

my camper needs a 100gbit lan

[topaz veldt]

the goalpost was like ABEC 7 on ice

[merry stirrup]

8 thousand dollar switch in a van

[wise bear]

ok so fuck you and use 2.5g

[topaz veldt]

2.5 Gbps is only 0.250 GB/s

[wise bear]

cry i guess

[topaz veldt]

SOLVE MY PROBLEMS I MAKE

[wise bear]

actually

5nail how fast are external scsi cards

[steel stream]

yo when are you getting Arc Raiders

[warped mountain]

PAUSE .. the group as a whole said flash was dumb, snail said it wouldn't work until you spend $50,000 at least. And said flash had some major drawbacks. That was from 7-11 last night.

[warped mountain]

Actually I said reads ... Not writes.

[topaz veldt]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

[merry stirrup]

bro im debating on buying CUDIMMS

[wise bear]

Hey, dipwad- you're not getting your 4GB/s writes over a network. I don't care what logic you try to come up with.

[turbid locust]

they’re kinda cool man

[steel stream]

:(

[turbid locust]

they just… boot high freq lmao

[wise bear]

the ones used for like, disk shelfs

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel mm that window open weather

[pure garnet]

floppas trying to convince me to buy them too

[warped mountain]

No it wasn't stop making crap up

[merry stirrup]

275$

[turbid locust]

I just don’t want to spend $300 on 8800 c42 rn H24M

[merry stirrup]

my adie posted 9k first try manj

[steel stream]

floppa go buy your phone

[merry stirrup]

275$ 8400 h24m

or 200$ 8000 h16a

[turbid locust]

We’ll see what mine do

[topaz veldt]

this?

[wise bear]

YEAH

[topaz veldt]

like $27

[wise bear]

no how FAST

[turbid locust]

oops 5nail I almost leaked the sauce

[topaz veldt]

Oh.... uhhh... fast

[merry stirrup]

suddenly a Z890 owner i see

[topaz veldt]

PCIe 4.0 x 16 if you can afford it

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-water-thirsty-fumbling-gif-10195256

[wise bear]

@warped mountain you might get your DAS after all

[turbid locust]

floppa stfu

[edgy laurel]

its officially hit us

[merry stirrup]

guess someone got jealous

[steel stream]

wait is Mac buying Z890

[turbid locust]

Of you? LOOOOOOL

enjoy my hand-me-down GPU dumbass

[topaz veldt]

Love it - I was on the beach Sunday it was 95F, home today and its 40F.

[topaz veldt]

Its like ass pennies

[wise bear]

direct attach jbod of sata ssds via pcie 8x

[merry stirrup]

bro if you make your family pay msrp for hand me down products you are not a good family member

[green marsh]

people are so bad with their computers. Sure, it is a 13 year old macbook pro for 50 euros, but what happened to the feets of it ?

[warped mountain]

NO ONE SAID WRITES!!! And I was gonna do copper connection, but people had a meltdown.

So they said to do it over wifi, and that 500MB/s is fast enough when you are moving 2TB at a time. And the goal is 15 minutes max. Idk the math doesn't make sense to me but hey I've never built a NAS so maybe they're smarter than me.

They say the fast read speeds aren't necessary on a NAS.

[merry stirrup]

(thanks again tho LOL)

[edgy laurel]

TBH it was much nicer over the weekend. The temp drop started yesterday

[turbid locust]

oh when it’s floppa runs 9k it’s fuck you but when it’s buying gpu it’s family ok

[wise bear]

YOU ARE NOT getting 500MB/s over fucking wifi

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[steel stream]

I am sensing some tension

[edgy laurel]

Peyton is fired up

[merry stirrup]

what did you buy?

[pure garnet]

bro at this point i wanna just see the nas he builds

[merry stirrup]

did you go to micro and get an apex?

[wise bear]

I'm home with my bong again after a week and this person makes me so mad

[green marsh]

also can't decide if this is too much or too little this guy asks 😄

[turbid locust]

Dw about it

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I know - so I beached the boat (intentionally) to go check out this area and uh... tides and shit, and I think I almost had a heat stroke

[merry stirrup]

460$ apex is pretty good man it enticed me

[turbid locust]

motherfucker are you in my DMs

[merry stirrup]

allegedly it was 400$ elsewhere

[green marsh]

2600x, vega 64, 16GB RAM, 250GB SSD, EVGA 850W, Fractal Define C, 200 euros 😄

[warped mountain]

Wait why not? 7 does 2.5GB/s

[pure garnet]

yo mac apex

W purchase

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust this guy is gonna pay $460

[turbid locust]

lol

[wise bear]

gigaBIT
NOT
gigaBYTE

[edgy laurel]

LOL, jeeze. Family onboard? you get yourself stuck ona sandbar or something?

[merry stirrup]

you gotta know that we have similar ideas

[green marsh]

link speed. With ideal conditions etc. Realistically you are looking at gigabit tops

[merry stirrup]

bro we literally do the same shit with our computers quite often

[steel stream]

i am talking floppa and mac

[merry stirrup]

mac is a G id never truly be mean to him

[steel stream]

@turbid locust wtf did you buy

[merry stirrup]

rage bait however....

[merry stirrup]

he probably bought snails apex for cheep

[turbid locust]

you know what’s funnier than a $460 z890 Apex

[merry stirrup]

as to join the Z890 crowd

[topaz veldt]

Yeah 2 kids and wife. We wanted to see this old building. I was going to just anchor in like 3 ft of water but my daughter wouldn't get off the boat lol. All was good, we had water, but I had to push a fucking huge boat by myself with my wife fucking with throttle on trimmed up engines. It was a shit show and I was fucking exhausted.

[merry stirrup]

a 260$ apex?

[steel stream]

I imagine you two like those dogs that are separated by a fence, and then when the fence opens they just chill out

[merry stirrup]

ah it was the 400$ microcenter in box

my ocf was cheaper

[edgy laurel]

damn, they might have to temporarily revoke your florida man card for that little episode

[turbid locust]

$368 new z890 apex lmao

[merry stirrup]

oh it was new? i thought it was in box, thats fire

[turbid locust]

ya new lol

[merry stirrup]

also 265K? or waiting

[topaz veldt]

Everything was by the book... except the tide/current on this side of the beach went down more than I thought it would. I am still sore.

[turbid locust]

yeah I’m grabbing the 265K bundle and selling the board

[young void]

throws chairr

[merry stirrup]

thats fire

[merry stirrup]

well now our 1v1v1 has changed into a 1v1v1v1

[fringe vigil]

Snail I wish nvidia would hurry up and send me cables

[warped mountain]

"Higher Speeds: WiFi 7 offers theoretical speeds up to 46 Gbps, compared to WiFi 6’s 9.6 Gbps. That’s a huge jump, but keep in mind these are best-case scenarios, which most environments won’t achieve either. "

And 40Gbps is 5GB/s. A 40Gbps link gives 3.6GB/s real world.

500MB/s is 4Gbps ...

[merry stirrup]

@steel stream

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel have you heard of "Power Poles"?

[turbid locust]

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[pure garnet]

bro said this like i don't have completely different memory ics and 0 experience

[green marsh]

and you still don't understand how wifi works it seems

[edgy laurel]

no but i gotta go afk and deal with some last minute work shit, i'll be back

[steel stream]

int it 1v1v1v1v1 with Navy

[merry stirrup]

do not make me buy h24m

[merry stirrup]

no i was telling you to buy an oc board

[pure garnet]

you know what ennui says

no balls

[merry stirrup]

none oc board buyers dont count, my condolences

[steel stream]

hrnng

[turbid locust]

the real question is will my ram hold up

[merry stirrup]

the godbins?

[steel stream]

the macbins?

[wise bear]

you said you wanted a 4 gigaBYTE/s connection to your server

[merry stirrup]

bro my 4800 h16a greenies did 8600

[turbid locust]

beta PCB

[merry stirrup]

.

[pure garnet]

i really just need to find out what subtimings do on intel

[merry stirrup]

anything with a CKD is going to be good

[pure garnet]

then i'll start touching levers

[merry stirrup]

you can read their function that just doesnt help

[pure garnet]

the ocf seems smart but these still seem high

[green marsh]

6GHz will be useless anywhere but in the room with wifi AP. 5GHz you will be lucky to get an 80MHz channel. And boom, you are down to gigabit link at best, which gets cut down to 50-70% for actual transfer speed, so you are down to 500-700Mbps at best. And that is with one client, with right antenna setup

[turbid locust]

my god bins don’t have CKD

[merry stirrup]

tRDRD_SG= read to read same group

[merry stirrup]

i was talkin bout the new ones you have allegedly

[turbid locust]

huh

I don’t have any new ram

[merry stirrup]

you said "we'll see what mine do"

[pure garnet]

do you have the apex yet mac or are you picking it up soon

[warped mountain]

I'm showing real world tests in laptops at 3500 MBits on wifi 7. So close enough ~437 MB/s.

[merry stirrup]

dont gaslight me now

[turbid locust]

I was debating on the H24M 8800 c42 kit

[merry stirrup]

ohhh get the 275$ kit

[pure garnet]

at 370 for an apex i regret this minion ass board

[merry stirrup]

we'd have to go to mc bro

[green marsh]

again, you talk about ideal conditions

[wise bear]

yoooooo satisfactory is on consoles now

[pure garnet]

who's we, mac would do me a favor i bet

[merry stirrup]

id have snail do it

[warped mountain]

Whatever USB4 is. So 40Gbps

[merry stirrup]

or ill hit up brutus (if you know, you know) and ask him to do a homie favor again

[wise bear]

why can't you be happy with 2.5g

[pure garnet]

i mean it's whatever now im already on da minion but

[warped mountain]

Considering the max distance we'd be from the Wi-Fi router is 10 ft and in the actual same room I don't think that it matters..

[pure garnet]

apex would've been my pick

[merry stirrup]

yeah im not changing oc boards

[steel stream]

et tu?

[merry stirrup]

and you? im lost

[pure garnet]

gonna start calling my pc king bob with the yellow paint

[green marsh]

and do you live somewhere where nobody else is using wifi in 30 meter distance and you are the only user on the wifi network ?

[turbid locust]

I reserved the only one in stock and I doubt they’ll have more

[pure garnet]

et tu, brute is what ceaser said when he got stabbed

[merry stirrup]

OHHH

im slow

[pure garnet]

🙏 have fun with the apex

sell jerry your 14900k for profit

[steel stream]

intel-chat-2

[young void]

[wise bear]

jfc I've gone from pirating sims 4 et al to spending $400+ on dlc

[green marsh]

here is your reality

[merry stirrup]

macintosh has made a point that if im spending 275 for the 8 400 vcolors

that i should just get the 8800 gskills

[pure garnet]

do you have an a die kit you haven't mauled

[merry stirrup]

my gskill adie is stock still

[merry stirrup]

but y

[pure garnet]

half curious on getting some a die but

[warped mountain]

Look I wanted to do a storage device that had the capability to move data over USB4 like I currently do now because I find that my Samsung t7 (which can do 1,050 MB/s) is too slow.

My USB 4 enclosures do 3.6 GB/s with lexar NM790 (4TB) in them.

I was told it's not how you build redundant storage, and that it was not allowed to have capacity for direct connect.

A typical 3-day loadout is about 300GB. I was then told that I'm not allowed to watch my media at original 4K HDR 10-bit format, and that I need to transcode it down to 1080p 7 Mbps ... 🫤

[pure garnet]

i gotta look at pricing

[merry stirrup]

200$ ck a die man

literally the best youre going to get for your money

[pure garnet]

i am a gskill shill

[merry stirrup]

yeah but its 8k rated and doesnt look terrible

[pure garnet]

after the patriot incident im waiting for you to crash test it first

[merry stirrup]

otherwise youre paying like 80$ more at minimum

[pure garnet]

what speed guarantees h16a

[merry stirrup]

i think above 7200

7600+=h16a

theres a 7200 patriot kit if you want to gamble

but 7200 can be micron even

[wise bear]

So what you really need to do is to have a workstation style pc with all-flash storage over pcie, one of the highest-spec intel/amd server cpus out there, a ton of ram, and your gpu in it. use proxmox

good luck spending over 10 grand

[green marsh]

my only Patriot product death was 128GB Patriot Torqx from like 2009 or 2010

[warped mountain]

30 m is like 4.5 of my truck right? So no, maybe 1 truck length like 24ft I guess.

[pure garnet]

g skill godbins are $315

[merry stirrup]

c26's?

[pure garnet]

[pure garnet]

ye

[merry stirrup]

atp the vcolor or gskills no inbetween then

[pure garnet]

vcolor is 260

[merry stirrup]

200

[pure garnet]

not a lot cheaper

not for 6000cl26

[warped mountain]

Yeah that's why I wanted the option to direct connect. Snail said that's not possible, and then said I needed to spend $50,000 if I wanted that kind of transfer speed. I guess he does the stuff for a living?

[pure garnet]

yeah thats a diff kit

[merry stirrup]

its in ur dms tho

[topaz veldt]

I have heard mid things about vcolor tho

I know the DIMMs are all the same but

[warped mountain]

Or .... You know use USB4 for the transfer rather than wifi 🫤

[merry stirrup]

oh youre talking godbin v godbin i see ok

[pure garnet]

if i got a die i may as well just get those but

[wise bear]

so you've solved it then

[pure garnet]

i'll see how im feeling when i get paid for the strix

it's not like im on a bad kit of memory rn

[warped mountain]

Everyone said you can't do redundant storage with a direct connect it has to be network attached 🫤

[pure garnet]

i just have to go to home depot and buy some fan brackets

[wise bear]

so use 2.5g and be happy

[warped mountain]

Okay ... I already said we will do wifi if direct connect isn't allowed ... Idk why people are having a meltdown yet again...

[lethal topaz]

i am finally transcoding all my old game recordings. i have like 6tb that will be transcoded down to ~200-300gb

[warped mountain]

Soo back to a NAS case, no idea why everybody started having a meltdown yet again 🙄🙄

[wise bear]

because your desires are infuriating

[warped mountain]

Assuming 450 height (closet tapers inward at top)
I have 370 wide x 315 depth x 450 tall to play with.

The node 804 (344 x 307 x 389 mm) won't fit unless I sit it on its face?? The N5 won't fit in any orientation. Any other good 10 drive NAS case that might fit? I don't normally shop on size lol

Define R7 XL has been suggested but it's too big

[warped mountain]

What 🤬 desires??

I'm literally trying to build what was suggested last night and y'all are sitting here having a fit and like "oh well you can't do this, you can't do that... FINE you told me I couldn't do it last night... And I MOVED ON... no idea why you need to bring it back up when I've already moved forward.

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-l-don't-care-didn't-ask-stay-mad-gif-1713657854833113217

[warped mountain]

Anywho .. why are you the first person to protest HDD and suggest SDD .. what do you know that snail doesn't?

[wise bear]

because I'm not a sadist and I don't want you to lose a bunch of hard drives for an on-the-road mobile deployment

[warped mountain]

Ok, Snail said explicitly not to use flash. Do you know why he would say that?

[topaz veldt]

I have already explained why you cannot afford to use flash

[warped mountain]

Ethan (who did the part picker list 🤘) that I needed to make sure that I shut it off before moving.

[wise bear]

I was the one who screamed that at you

[wise bear]

well, we both did

[topaz veldt]

You cannot, should not, run flash storage in parity based arrays - I dunno how else to say it

[warped mountain]

I wanted to build a flash array. I asked that here at the beginning. (Note a number of things have already been stated that don't need restated. Posting for transparency)

#tech-chat-2 message

[hoary hatch]

whats happening

mac wants a real memory controller?

[steel stream]

yeah pretty much

[warped mountain]

Yes that's what I told Peyton, is that is what you said

[hoary hatch]

he needs to downgrade to 5070ti again
it would be so peak

[steel stream]

he wants the taiwanese lego CPU

[steel stream]

or we all just upgrade to 5090 🤔

[warped mountain]

So no flash for technical reasons. Peyton said it's better for reliability.

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hitting-head-on-desk-cat-insane-cat-gif-24842238

[hoary hatch]

my financial advisor (gf) said this is not recommend (you better fucking not spend $2400 on a gpu)

oh is it Laptop NAS time again?

[warped mountain]

So now we have one person saying yes one person saying no. I thought we had this all sorted out last night ... and today we're just doing the final pieces so I can put my order in.

[steel stream]

sometimes you gotta follow your heart and not listen to the financial advisor

[pure garnet]

someone needs to buy a z890 aorus tachyon ice so we can have every xoc board covered

oh and i guess an msi unify x

[topaz veldt]

I already stated - you are not building a flash array with parity without massive issues, highlighted those - you said you want to have your game library on the storage but said you'll have no network and it'd be wireless... you would need to run iSCSI to present physical block devices to a machine with, and that will not work with wireless. There's liek 900 facets of why you are not going to be able to do these things and this is just HARDWARE talk, you don't have the OS/filesystem/network knowledge to make it work. I don't think anyone here is bored/underpaid enough to be your personal storage architect and since you've been posting these things you still have not come to the table with any learned information, in fact, just more questions, "Why would Snail say..."

[hoary hatch]

civ 7 is fucking weird

[warped mountain]

No, I was finalizing my order and apparently a massive issue that I haven't considered has came up..

[topaz veldt]

Final order? What parts are you buying lol

[steel stream]

is that benjamin franklin

[hoary hatch]

and roman empire lmao

[topaz veldt]

it is - I played for like 20 mins

[merry stirrup]

buy an oc motherboard (and you too akn) and join the battle of arl users

[pure garnet]

one tachyon one unify x

[merry stirrup]

everyone but snail is on a 265k

[steel stream]

checks out

[pure garnet]

pick amongst yourselves so they're all covered

[merry stirrup]

mhm mhm

itx boards dont count for our purposes, fuck you

[hoary hatch]

i tried disabling XeSS with my NV GPU installed and the game crashed

[warped mountain]

I was challenging Peyton to State his stance and justify why his advice directly contradicted yours.

I had already accepted that we're going to have to do hard drives, and I presume map a network drive

[hoary hatch]

I'd pay like $100 for a remake of Civ V with modern graphics and multi threading (turn times get ass in late game)

[wise bear]

xfinity bein' good to me today

[pure garnet]

who wants the north ram slots

[topaz veldt]

99% of games will not let you build a library off a mapped network drive. Enter iSCSI. You have literally done ZERO maybe less-than-zero, research.

[lethal topaz]

is this copper?

[merry stirrup]

so check if quantum finally made it to you

[merry stirrup]

yes

[merry stirrup]

100$ a month 3gbit sequential @wise bear

[topaz veldt]

Peyton is recommending SSDs because of no moving parts - but Peyton isn't considering the wear of a parity based RAID on NAND, as I have already explained to you multiple times

[warped mountain]

#tech-chat-2 message

[merry stirrup]

you live near me it should be priced the same

[topaz veldt]

Where is the 64TB of storage?

[lethal topaz]

2 ping is criminal

[warped mountain]

Steam used to let me .. is this new???

[steel stream]

would

[warped mountain]

I was sorting that out today. That's why I started by asking if I should trust refurb considering what history with them has been terrible. I was told yes don't worry about it and here is a provider that does direct warranty in-house not through a third party.

[wise bear]

fuck you I'll get ziply eventually

[hoary hatch]

Actually Ziply sent a notification our rates were increasing from $80/month to $95/month for 2gig
told my gf we should just down grade to 1gig. Called them to downgrade and they offered us 6 months of 2gig at $75/month

[pure garnet]

alright akn takes the tachyon

that leaves mr search engine with the unify x

[steel stream]

i mean i won't buy it but I would

[topaz veldt]

What?

[merry stirrup]

akn its 700$ choose wisely

[hoary hatch]

planning to move in the next 6 months anyways

[wise bear]

see if you can just get a year-long locked price

[hoary hatch]

only jorj calls me engine

[steel stream]

I am not buying a new mobo so TC2 can play Power Rangers

[merry stirrup]

PLEASE

[pure garnet]

what would you like me to call you

[topaz veldt]

You buy new disks if you have 64TB of data you care about. What operating system are you running this on? What filesystem?

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-meg-z890-unify-x-atx-motherboard-intel-z890-lga-1851/p/N82E16813144683? @hoary hatch k thanks

[topaz veldt]

Steam will let you mount a library over SMB but it'll take you minutes to launch a game. Other launchers will not.

[steel stream]

darn

[hoary hatch]

navy, navycobra

[pure garnet]

[merry stirrup]

i played games over a nas share thru steam

[steel stream]

ok carter

[hoary hatch]

mods set this display name so I can troll people

[merry stirrup]

it was not actually that bad

[topaz veldt]

not over wifi

[hoary hatch]

this works too

[merry stirrup]

no not over wifi but it worked over lan just fine

[topaz veldt]

Try launching Arc Raiders or something modern over NAS lol

[steel stream]

sweet navy

[warped mountain]

See and that's what I'm talking about. #tech-chat-2 message the response is shortly after.

[steel stream]

I can't man

[pure garnet]

sell the soundbar and buy the tachyon

[topaz veldt]

I am not doom scrolling Discord, what is the question

[hoary hatch]

although maybe I should just reset the display name to actual profile name. life would be simpler

[pure garnet]

it is your destiny

[merry stirrup]

its fine its fine its fine its just battle of apex vs ocf i guess

[steel stream]

I need more drives and a new nas case

[warped mountain]

So for games I should probably stick a 8 TB in one of my usb4 enclosures and just use it as a game drive? Of buy that new crucial thing?

[merry stirrup]

2v2 ocf and apex

[pure garnet]

1.5 on the ocf lets be real

[steel stream]

Also no one is interested in this soundbar in the slightest

[merry stirrup]

1.5v2

[pure garnet]

i got no clue what im doing

[merry stirrup]

im just saying i still have the fastest memory

[hoary hatch]

hate to be michael, but no 10gig for 500 dabloons?

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[merry stirrup]

you are the guy who chose it

[shell void]

none of the oc boards have 10gb unfortunately

[pure garnet]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-aorus-tachyon-ice-z890-a-tachyon-ice-extended-atx-intel-z890-motherboard-lga-1851/p/N82E16813145589

[hoary hatch]

why do I get msi

[steel stream]

fastest memory
has the most experience overclocking

[merry stirrup]

buy tachyon

[topaz veldt]

What are you "RAID 6" ing with?

[hoary hatch]

i was on the phone with insurance someone loop me in

[merry stirrup]

THIS DOESNT CORRELATE

[hoary hatch]

gigabyte bios still hideous?

[merry stirrup]

no actually i dont think its bad this gen

[pure garnet]

it's one of the menus of all time

[merry stirrup]

kyo isnt a fan

[pure garnet]

everything is dumped into one giant page

[merry stirrup]

classic shove everything into a menu

[hoary hatch]

I enjoy the z890 tomahawk UEFI

[merry stirrup]

wait carter

[pure garnet]

so you'd like the unify then

[hoary hatch]

it is probably fine

[merry stirrup]

be our oddity

buy ck dimms and see how high you can clock on a 4 dimmer

[hoary hatch]

i own a motherboard I am not changing my motherboard

[steel stream]

I guess you have a toma hawk too huh?

[merry stirrup]

see this is easier then

[fringe vigil]

I got fired

[merry stirrup]

200$ h16a ckd sticks

[pure garnet]

from what

[fringe vigil]

burger king

[steel stream]

they just lost their greatest employee

fly high jorj, fly high

[hoary hatch]

do i ping mods for this

[frank zealot]

@edgy laurel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHVlElySNKQ

Tryx turned their fancy AIO Block with waterfall screen into an open loop block

[steel stream]

make sure to ping them like 6-7 times

[hoary hatch]

kirashi, akn deserves a 1hr mute for that

[fringe vigil]

Hawk tuah

[steel stream]

thank you jorj

[fringe vigil]

What’s so bad about it

[steel stream]

at least someone around here gets me

[fringe vigil]

Nogger ice cream

[merry stirrup]

SOTP

[fringe vigil]

You sent it not me

[karmic folio]

hawk 2 uhh

[hoary hatch]

jorj you found the line and just decided to investigate what is on the other side

[merry stirrup]

this is like the 6th time ive seen "nogger" ice cream mentioned and it CANNOT be because it tastes good

[warped mountain]

Never mind it was by Corsair and they only go up to 4TB https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/data-storage/cssd-ex400u4tb/ex400u-4tb-usb4-external-ssd-cssd-ex400u4tb , I imagine building my own would make more sense with my u green TB4 enclosure ($76) and a GOOD m.2 that can sustain full speed during 80% write (Samsung or WD? ... Should I move up to PCI Express 5 will they maintain USB 4 speeds longer at less heat?)

[steel stream]

it's actually not bad

[merry stirrup]

im sure it tastes like ice cream

but theres an underlying meaning here

[warped mountain]

-Happy Federal holiday. Should I be as concerned about refurbished drives as I am? I've just had very bad luck with them. Is is worth paying 2x for new? Raid 6 setup.

-if you buy from a reputable seller like server part deals? It's not bad.

Especially if you setup monitoring to alert you when a disk fails

-Can you give me some reputables? I know some people on eBay are like "oh yeah it has a warranty but it's through all state"... Which yeah I know they do warranties, but I'd rather the person that sold it to me be responsible for it.

-serverpartdeals.com is arguably the best

[steel stream]

tastes like the chocolate versions of those strawberry shortcake bars

[topaz veldt]

"What are you going to run RAID6 on"

[warped mountain]

Like hard drives, isnt that what you said to do?

[topaz veldt]

So do you think you just like... plug hard drives into a box and it just... RAID6?

Again, back to the research thing.....

[dusty lotus]

honest opinion about those

[wise bear]

[warped mountain]

Ohh, idk yet. I can see if that motherboard selected supports Raid 6

[merry stirrup]

i fw it

[wise bear]

wireless peripheral gang lets gooooo

[warped mountain]

But probably like truenas (I feel like you were asking me what software I was going to run to control the hardware) and just follow a tutorial it's not like my setup is going to be crazy unique.

[wise bear]

your setup is insanely unique

[warped mountain]

At least it's not QLC

[karmic folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/guilds/375436620578684930/users/100389857209094144/avatars/a_04724bdea05f1ecffdeef9cc8ec69013.gif?size=1024&animated=true

[topaz veldt]

Everytime you ask this dude even a minute detail, there's answers like "this isn't a big deal" - yet there are so many questions

[warped mountain]

A media server?

[steel stream]

where has the time gone, I used to be able to get refurbed drives for $8/TB

[warped mountain]

Since games are going on an external. I thought all launchers allowed you to do like steam but I guess not.

[wise bear]

I left my cable for the wired version 3 hours away and I REALLY wanted a wireless upgrade in the logitech ecosystem, sooooooooo

[frank zealot]

jayz2 just looked at a new CPU Block, and you might like it.

[wise bear]

put games on an internal drive you fucking DORK

[karmic folio]

Bro bought headphones instead of a cable

[wise bear]

:3

$280 headphones instead of a $30 cable

[karmic folio]

$30 for a cable

[warped mountain]

512GB isn't big enough for that ...

[topaz veldt]

32GB of RAM isn't going to be enough for 64TB of ZFS space lol

[steel stream]

you NEED Sennheiser HD6XXs

[wise bear]

that'll be next round

[warped mountain]

And, I want to be able to use my game library on multiple machines so it just makes sense to do external USB 4 it's plenty fast enough for games.

[whole coral]

Welp. I pissed off my mom lmao

[wise bear]

you make me want to ingest gasoline.

[warped mountain]

Maybe Ethan was thinking plex build? I mean most of the content will be media based but obviously like I'm going to have light system image backups and other stuff on there.

[warped mountain]

Sometimes you want a thin and light igpu gaming experience, other times you want a 4090 experience.

[steel stream]

oh damn

i am learning a lot

[frank zealot]

you really strive to not make any sense whatsoever, don't you?

Ando, why you deleting all your messages, that's weird

[warped mountain]

He said build this, it will do what u need. 🤷 I was originally planning on just running basic Windows OS and marking the drives to share 😅 like I did back with windows 7 🤣. But I knew better than that .

[wise bear]

Stop touching computers

[merry stirrup]

NO

[wise bear]

no floppa you're ok

[warped mountain]

I'm not deleting anything

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-fake-news-gif-7518179235283302919

[frank zealot]

What part of your fucking name is Ando?

[wise bear]

I love tc2 💕

[topaz veldt]

You should really do research. Also if you need 64TB of usable space in ZFS you actually need 80TB usable because you will have severe performance degradation over 80% utilization

[warped mountain]

Wym? Sometimes I want a game on the go when I have time. What I don't want to do is lug around 10 lb in my bag all day. (4090)

[warped mountain]

Oh okay, I though you said "and" but with a typo

[merry stirrup]

guys the tachyon can clock ram

wow a fuckin banger sub i didnt see this

wow wait actually

the tachyon is the d5 wr freq holder

as of 3 days ago

6605MHz

oh there was a comp on he third i think

or just a cute meet

[warped mountain]

First I gotta figure out this NAS case thing so we know how many hard drive slots we have so we know what our options are. I've already been told to stick to SATA, don't go SAS.

[wise bear]

Around and around and around and around and around a--

[frank zealot]

part of me wants to make a joke about IDE

[wise bear]

[frank zealot]

anyways, time for me to take my senior citizen arse out to axe throwing

[wise bear]

merry axe throwing

[warped mountain]

Need a NAS case
Assuming 450mm height (closet tapers inward at top) (17.7 Inch)

I have 370 wide (14.5 inches) x 315 depth (12.4 inches) x 450 tall (17.7 inches) to play with.

The node 804 (344 x 307 x 389 mm) won't fit unless I sit it on its face?? I presume that would be a bad idea 😅

[pure garnet]

you may find chatgpt better for this questions

[arctic bronze]

just get a server rack setup

[pure garnet]

server rack in the camper would go crazy

[frank zealot]

ouch this hurts:

[warped mountain]

?? You got to start with the case when you know you have limited space availability.

Case compatibility will tell you how many hard drive slots you have.... which will tell you the capacity that you can use.... , then you go from there choosing CPU, motherboard, Ram and power supply. Based on needs for the software you are gonna run

[arctic bronze]

I say that as Iv seen how much storage you have talked about, so ur pushing the limits of a conventual nas

[arctic bronze]

would be dope if you can cool and fit it lmao

[frank zealot]

Jonsbo N4

[warped mountain]

#tech-chat-2 message

Do they make one that can fit in this space??

[arctic bronze]

most likely

[frank zealot]

Jonsbo N5 for 12 drives:

[wise bear]

jonsbo my love

[steel stream]

i've got the money for the case not the drives

[arctic bronze]

@warped mountain check this rack: https://a.co/d/9XD4xuK

you can get a rack mounted chassis to throw in there

with networking

[warped mountain]

I could do one above the inverter 😅 I could also do one in this closet but then I would have nowhere for all my LTT shirts 💀💀💀

[arctic bronze]

just get the shorter options then

https://a.co/d/9i2kXNg

[warped mountain]

The node 804 (344 x 307 x 389 mm) won't fit unless I sit it on its face?? The N5 won't fit in any orientation. Any other good 10 drive NAS case that might fit?

[warped mountain]

That DOES fit, limited to 6 drives, that should work right? Snail said 80 useable, 4*191 MB/s (exos) 764MB/s theoretical sustained, so loading it won't be too slow 🤘, 400 might be a little low it might be a little high depending on file size but I think that would be the average to do a full transfer.

[warped mountain]

Aww it's too big, 27 wide, 17 tall, and 14 deep max.

[warped mountain]

Still too big sadly, that would be baller though!

[rotund meadow]

So I have a ryzen 5 3600 a b450 elite and i just got a 2080 ti is a 550w enough

[hoary hatch]

if you already have all the parts just try it

[warped mountain]

Any other NAS cases y'all can think of? Or doesn't look like it's just going to have to be that N4

[arctic bronze]

there is other options, thats just one I found

[pure garnet]

yeah probably

[merry stirrup]

yes

is it a good 550w tho, cause those are few and far between

[young void]

Happens, at least im quick to catch it now 😅

[pure garnet]

if you have a bunch of rgb ssds its kinda tight

[dusty lotus]

rgb psu

[merry stirrup]

if you remember the CXF line from corsair that was my secret goat

[pure garnet]

yeah i was gonna say im pretty sure the rgb psu was actually pretty good

[merry stirrup]

when they announced that it was going EOL it was really cheap

and it was a B tier unit or something

so youre getting a CX650F for like 60$

[merry stirrup]

yeah

see its my actual secret goat

[pure garnet]

my grandma uses my cx650 gray label

[merry stirrup]

the one good CX unit LOL

[pure garnet]

what an interesting combo of hardware

[merry stirrup]

shit bro

i need a psu

[merry stirrup]

i love that the 6700k is delidded and she doesnt even have a gpu

[pure garnet]

i'll throw the maybe broken maybe not superflower in with the mpower

[merry stirrup]

roulette with one of like 10 mpowers in the states i like this

oh you mean for the trade i was like bro do not blow it up please

[pure garnet]

well no you'd be the one spinning that wheel

we have no proof it was broken but it just happened to be in every pc of mine that broke

[merry stirrup]

i hate reading that

[pure garnet]

tbf 13700k died on it's own and then the 12900ks was fine

the b650e-f + 7800x3d was fine

[merry stirrup]

allegedly

[pure garnet]

so that implies the tomahawk was the issue

[merry stirrup]

that does end up making it a goodish deal

you got any other garbage ewaste hw?

[pure garnet]

of what variety

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

i have an a750 and a 6700 xt

and the z790 tomahawk

[merry stirrup]

hmmmmmmmmm

6700xt sounds like hell but an a750 also sounds like hell

[pure garnet]

i have the 4070 too but that's worth more than an matx board to me

[merry stirrup]

so much more

my homie needs a dgpu for his little brothers machine

[pure garnet]

i have a 2070 super actually

[merry stirrup]

how did you forget

[pure garnet]

lot of shit in my closet

[merry stirrup]

ok fair

what model?

[pure garnet]

one the evga xc ones, it has a backplate

[merry stirrup]

not that bad i guess then

[grizzled lily]

Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 A-RGB $112 vs Corsair titan 360 rx $127, Both white? which one should I get?

[pure garnet]

you gotta contact discord support man

you're still tagged as a spammer

[neat root]

The LF3 Pro is better in every aspect, just mind the thick Radiator

[merry stirrup]

the very thick*

[neat root]

What case you got Synth?

[grizzled lily]

the phantek xt pro ultra should handle it?

[neat root]

Thats the perfect case for it

No problem, would fill it with P14 Pro's while youre at it

[grizzled lily]

thx

[proven cairn]

My toe hitted the door 🙁

Also hey chat

[warped mountain]

Damn no 10 bays, unless they were released in the last year because GPT 5 is only good till September of 2024

[hoary hatch]

Koolcordell is what happens when tech chat 1 is allowed to roam free in tech chat 2

[warped mountain]

What lol I asked if there was a website where I could search by exterior dimensions and there isn't so kind of the only real option is chat GPT unless I want to spend 20 hours looking at case specification sheets

Oh shoot I forgot to put my message 🤣 does anybody have any experience with any of these listed?

So USB 2 right?

[merry stirrup]

how many pins

blue generally means USB 3

[warped mountain]

It's plugged in right now so I can't check

YAY my other HP flip is here 😬...

[edgy laurel]

another laptop for reasons

i'm beginning to think you just have an obsession with file transfers

[topaz veldt]

its absurd lol

oh

[brisk jolt]

they have obsession with complicating simple sh*t

“how many signals do I need to cut across 6 lanes? None? Ok I turn left now, good luck everybody!”

[warped mountain]

. No this is the one that I ordered before I found out that I could get the same thing for 500 bucks locally.. I told my friend to RTS it for a refund, but I guess she wasn't home.

All right final components selections!

5 28TB drives. Capacity for 8 . ZFS what's 1GB per TB useable right?

It was supposed to be ordered by noon it is now five which means I have now been doing the final component selection for 7 hours 😭

[warped mountain]

Whoops, do I go with the 128, or the 96GB with faster timings?

It's the k series i5 245k I think

[turbid locust]

isn’t this literally meant to be a server or some shit

Why the fuck would you care about timings? Like they even matter anyways

[low sorrel]

is this the guy who wants 4GB/s

[warped mountain]

Well I didn't know if arrow lake cared about timings

[brisk jolt]

this is a server not a overclocking PC

[warped mountain]

So, knowing that I will have to replace the entire kit. Would you buy the 96 gig to have proper sized RAM for your array today.. or the 128 kit? assuming that we never go over 64 gigs per stick

[brisk jolt]

utility over speed

[warped mountain]

Okay, I'll bet on RAM getting cheap again in the future before I expand it!

It is time 😈

[west coyote]

building my first pccc

[topaz veldt]

nice good luck

[west coyote]

ASUS Prime GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB GDDR7 Graphics Card

ASUS TUF Gaming B650-PLUS WIFI Motherboard

Vetroo 1000W Black Power Supply (ATX 3.1, 80 Plus Gold, Full Modular)

STREBITO Small Precision Screwdriver Set (64-piece Electronics Repair Kit)

Thermaltake View 270 Plus TG ARGB Black Mid Tower E-ATX Case

CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz CL36

ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE Blackout Dual-Tower Air CPU Cooler Good or bad pc build for gaming

[topaz veldt]

I would not recommend that memory

I also do not see the CPU

[west coyote]

oh

[magic cedar]

Hello Folks was stupid and installed a third m2 on my rog Maximus Hero z790 after booting and a Test i noticed that my 5090 went from 600w at 100% to only 450ish at 100% removed the m2 but the Problem persists any ideas how to fix it? Allready tried to f5 in BIOS with no successI guess its the pcie lanes that got Split but dont See the Option to change it Back to 16

[west coyote]

ryzen 5 9600x

[topaz veldt]

don't go over 6000 M/Ts memory

[west coyote]

what memory

[topaz veldt]

any you can find that is 2x16GB but 6000 CL30 or CL32

[west coyote]

why not go over 6000?

[topaz veldt]

Because AMD AM5 CPUs really do not go over 6000 without custom OC and even then, not all can do 6400 like you selected

There is about a 0.25% difference between 6000 CL32/CL32 and 6400 CL36, except that the 6400 CL36 may not even run

[west coyote]

it said my build was compatible

[turbid locust]

if you install that ram and enable expo the computer will function yes

[topaz veldt]

Do you want the advice or nah?

[turbid locust]

Just slower than a 6000 kit

[topaz veldt]

There is a high probability that the CPU will not like running 6400 1:1, so we do not recommend over 6000

[oak vector]

What’s the difference between mt/s and mhz

[topaz veldt]

One applies to memory and one sort of doesn't but people use it anyway

[proven cairn]

Hey chat

[oak vector]

Is 6000mt/s the same as 6000mhz or am I silly

[topaz veldt]

At the end of the day, yes.

[proven cairn]

Mt/s is what people mean when they say mhz when talking about ram

[topaz veldt]

But one is transactions into/out of memory per second and the other is "frequency measured in hertz"

[oak vector]

google gave me some excellent ai slop that kinda contradicted itself

[topaz veldt]

No its correct

One is transfers/transactions and the hertz is cycles

and then they are talking about the "double data rate" that occurs where as 6000 "MHz" memory is really a mem clock of 3000

[low sorrel]

^

[topaz veldt]

Its ultiimately the same scale so it just works either way

[oak vector]

Im still confused but its okay lmao
Appreciate the input

[topaz veldt]

6000 CL30 or CL32, not 6400 anything is recommended

[warped mountain]

#tech-chat-1 message

Lol I put it in the wrong chat

[proven cairn]

Ram prices mog bitcoin

[warped mountain]

FACTS my most expensive component 😭

[proven cairn]

Beat the snp500 i think

What’s the snp500

[floral spear]

Happy 11/11

[merry stirrup]

ddr send commands on rising and falling edge of each clock

[whole coral]

Aurora borealis! Just took this photo

Wish the damn trees weren’t there

[oak vector]

thx flopa 🙏

[fringe vigil]

u study math

[warped mountain]

Ye

[fringe vigil]

i thought you were working

[warped mountain]

I am also

Very very busy boy

[fringe vigil]

no like a full time not partime every college guy has one well some

[warped mountain]

Ya Part-time, comes to 75 scheduled hours a week between school and work. 😭. But hey it's worth it in the long run ... I think

[vagrant cargo]

so what panel is the new sony monitor using?

its 240 hertz qhd

im assuming oled

[dapper junco]

Press release stated its IPS

https://blog.playstation.com/2025/11/11/first-look-at-playstations-27-gaming-monitor/

[vagrant cargo]

is it me or is it odd sony chose 1440p not 4k

given that ps5 can do 4k wait it can do 4k cant it?

[graceful marten]

are you sure it aint just light pollution?

[dapper junco]

Yep, it can do 4k 120hz

[vagrant cargo]

weird sony chose to cap the monitor at 1440p then

[dapper junco]

but from the press release they are aiming this to desktop users

[whole coral]

It’s not light pollution

[dapper junco]

so I can somewhat understand the choice to go with 1440p, especially at the 27 inch size

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/aurora-borealis-steamed-hams-the-simpsons-simpsons-super-intendent-chalmers-gif-26950836

[fringe vigil]

what is that thing under the c5 and can u hide it

[dapper junco]

Which thing? the tiny chin?

[dapper junco]

Ah, bluetooth/ir receiver for the remote

[fringe vigil]

can u remove it

[dapper junco]

You can't
also if you remove it there's a chance that the remote will straight up not working soooooo

[fringe vigil]

do i need the remote, ill just be using it for my pc

[merry stirrup]

you cant remove it bro

[dapper junco]

Yea, the problem is you can't really remove it

it also houses the physical power button, which you need if you don't want to use the remote

[warped mountain]

Where can I find what kind of drive this is? samsung mzvl8512hFLU-00bh1

[fringe vigil]

oh opk

[warped mountain]

I googled and couldn't find anything concrete

[dusty lotus]

it cannot

it can do 4k display but youre not playing at 4k ever

at most thats extremely upscaled

1440 seems like a wise choice

[merry stirrup]

i love 60fps sometimes at 1440p sometimes

[dapper junco]

Have you tried searching for the samsung pm9c1?

[warped mountain]

I did, there seems to be a number of different versions of it. That's why I hit my dead end

[indigo walrus]

If you want to switch inputs, you'll likely need the remote. Many TV's either have unintuitive or non-exitent physical controls on the TV itself these days, which means you're screwed if you lose the remote.

[fringe vigil]

naww i wont need too

[indigo walrus]

So... how will you change the TV to the HDMI input you connect your computer to then? More importantly, why would you not want the remote control? The TV comes with one...

[fringe vigil]

display port*

[dapper junco]

TPU database said it uses the same controller as the dramless HMB 990 evo and evo plus. What other drives have you seen being linked to this one?

[indigo walrus]

Not sure how you'll do that. I cannot find evidence of the 42" LG C5 having a DisplayPort connection...

[dapper junco]

jorj moment

[indigo walrus]

Yup. The Quick Start guide only shows HDMI for a video input. 🤷

[warped mountain]

I saw the a b and c and one of them only writes at 2500, the other ones have more reasonable performance in the 5000 range that's why I was like okay is this a qlc version or what

[dusty lotus]

the ps is like my main pc, 4k with extreme upscaling

[dapper junco]

Here's the input snap from rtings' review

[fringe vigil]

wait what

oh, so why do i use display port on my monitor

[indigo walrus]

Because your monitor and GPU... have DisplayPort? It's standard on almost all GPUs and most monitors today.

[fringe vigil]

yh

but whats the difference

[indigo walrus]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/hdmi-vs-displayport

[dapper junco]

For me its because of VRR support on non g sync compatible monitors

[merry stirrup]

hurray!

[dapper junco]

On high refresh rate monitors, the most common version of DP supports higher refresh rate than the most common supported HDMI version
DP 1.4 vs HDMI 2.0

[fringe vigil]

hm

lam do you have oled

[dapper junco]

Technically, my laptop comes with a oled monitor

[dusty lotus]

hdmi is paid, dp is free

[fringe vigil]

hdmi 2.1 comes with gpu buddy

and monitors

[indigo walrus]

It costs the manufacturer to implement HDMI. Implementing DisplayPort is free to the manufacturer.

[brisk jolt]

I think he meant the royalties or smth

[fringe vigil]

ah

[shell void]

im late to noticing that buildzoid uploaded

[topaz veldt]

It's fine

[merry stirrup]

WHAt

MEMORY?!

[pure garnet]

with the force bro

[merry stirrup]

OHHH

[topaz veldt]

wat

[warped mountain]

Sorry got distracted benchmarking the new laptop. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/topgear1224/saved/2PGkgs
Everything look good here?

[hoary hatch]

Chat I'm starting to think GN has lost the plot

[warped mountain]

Shit I need more SATA power connectors

[hoary hatch]

What happened to air cooler reviews

[warped mountain]

I presume molex to SATA is still frowned upon?

[hoary hatch]

There's always fucking something

[warped mountain]

Yeah I was about to click buy, then I looked at the resource manager and realized I only had six, technically okay right now but when I go to 8 drives I'm going to need at least eight

[topaz veldt]

No dude... secret service.. CIA... secret squirrel shit

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup someone in the gigabyte owners thread can't get 7600 stable on their 245k

talk about bad bin

[hoary hatch]

My dog could get 7600 stable

[graceful marten]

I'm trying to decide if I should go 1440p or still 1080p with the 9060xt and 7600x

I can get a pretty banging 1080p monitor for the same price of a mid tier 1440p