tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

why own it if you’re gonna just look at it

[low sorrel]

it's like me in extraction shooters

gear fear

[young void]

Steam reviews line up

https://tenor.com/view/monsterinc-monsters-inc-gif-5616105356996190790

[low sorrel]

how is it almost 2026

[undone relic]

Part of a project working on.

Dashboards:
xbox 360 og (blades)
Xbkx 360 Kinect
WiiU
Wii
Ps2 (unofficial)

It’s not perfect designs as these are template’s that’ll improve over time

[young void]

Used to be a cop hmm hmm

[undone relic]

Who did? 👀

[young void]

Curious things jerrys

[low sorrel]

what

im confused

[young void]

Just reading reddit

Dont matter really

[undone relic]

I’m confused too 🤦🏽🤣

[young void]

He's just always got something nice to say toward me so curious

[karmic folio]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExejgyZzlsM2gwN3dpaGEwYTd4aGw1a2FybTI0cTR6bDQ3cjRzb3lkciZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/NfzERYyiWcXU4/giphy.gif

[young void]

Either way I hope the rest of you have a good one few more errands to crush out during these fun timess

[warped mountain]

Xiaomi Mi Box S 3rd gen only mentions google cast, nothing about miracast. Neither Shields either. Both only list Chrome cast.

[quick kernel]

Ooh that’s so cool

[vagrant cargo]

im kind of curious is there any non standing desks that are like steel labs mangus pro ?

so just the amount of options metal, heavy duty and also stuff

tbh i dont need a desk i got a odk im literally just curious

[undone relic]

It’s part of “Game OS”

It’s a app that’s a lib manger and a she’ll replacement, semi os.

The idea is to turn PC’s into games consoles whete users have full controll 👀

So many settings to choose from

Some features inc:

• guide menu
• game store (addons like kodi)
• ach
• api key support for accounts
• auto finds games, apps, Roms and media

[undone relic]

Aye what’s that? 👀

[vagrant cargo]

its a l shaped desk i got from amazon

i got the one without monitor riser basically im gonna get clip on peg board and sound panels what are clip on

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DLB2B98Q/?coliid=I2I24WXS512MNJ&colid=6SRXDSL3J55O&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

im gonna see what its weight is like once its put together because my pc will go ontop

[steel stream]

@edgy laurel plex works for file playback. I am now a Plex lover.

[vagrant cargo]

my plan is desk l shaped pc setup and music setup on desk, then on other side of l shaped desk will be at the end of my bed a media centre with my 4k 65 inch mini led tv

which i got for around 769 pound

[warped mountain]

Any other devices y'all can think of , or have experience with that support Miracast 2.0 (4k60hz) looked into Shield and Mi Box S and neither of them do.

i see Yinker has one, they say low latency but IDK what their definition of "low" is. a lot of cheap ones have audio sync issues as well.

[steel stream]

@shell void I think the Monitor people may be right, idk if Dolby Vision is that good

My standard Interstellar HDR rip with DTM looks fucking awesome

[quick kernel]

Ooh nice

[edgy laurel]

Plex is just the best

[steel stream]

Glad it works, bad part is that I now have to teach my roommates how to use a new app

Roommates or Chimps? the world may never know

[edgy laurel]

Oof 😅

[steel stream]

we have 3 remotes for the TV which I feel like is pretty decent, but they are scared of it

[pallid marsh]

How Asian of you

[merry stirrup]

dont you have to pay for it

[edgy laurel]

yeah, though there used to be a lifetime option. not sure anymore

[merry stirrup]

disappointing

i guess paying for a service is better than like 6

[shell void]

yeah the only time i’ve appreciated it is when watching The Witcher, and Wednesday on Netflix

they do a good job with the DV masters for Netflix Originals

[steel stream]

doesn't seem to be as bright

[shell void]

def won’t be

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt i just started the video. i'm already pissed and no ones left yet. if you ran a 6.20 earlier why you gotta be a little bitch

[steel stream]

even my DV stuff mastered for 4000 nits looks dim

[steel stream]

I guess I need to start mastering my own shit

[merry stirrup]

bro what

[steel stream]

that's right

[merry stirrup]

bro knows a guy with the raws

[low sorrel]

You have to pay for Plex?

[steel stream]

this tron legacy rips looks good though so far

[steel stream]

if you wanna transcode yuh

[warped mountain]

yall good at NAS?

[steel stream]

but you don't want to most times

[edgy laurel]

if you want hardware transcoding, yes. otherwise no

[steel stream]

got some high quality rips going

[merry stirrup]

DAMN all local?

[low sorrel]

You downloading Linux isos?

[merry stirrup]

yeah something like that

oh thats a small b

[steel stream]

yeah small b lol

[low sorrel]

Big b would be wild

[steel stream]

this is just streaming to the firestick rn

[warped mountain]

how much hardware do you need for software encode.

[merry stirrup]

speaking of b's

quantum fiber has made it to my area

[devout ridge]

a cpu

[merry stirrup]

5 gig symmetrical anyone?

[warped mountain]

well yeah lol, but how powerful? i7 920? orrr

[devout ridge]

any cpu will software transcode

as long as it can run x86-64

[merry stirrup]

my bad its 3 gig

[shell void]

pretty cheap

[warped mountain]

sweet I have my X58 1st generation i7 banging around here somewhere, i also have a 1950x rig too

[devout ridge]

it might take a little while to transcode, but it'll do it

[merry stirrup]

cheaper than our copper 2gig

[warped mountain]

oh what do you need for on the fly? if you are going from 4k 150Mb/s to lower shouldnt need much right? or is it more like the hardware converting the formats to one a device can use? i amagine if you are just pulling raw file, there is no CPU load?

[devout ridge]

what kind of file are you streaming where it's 150Mbps?

[warped mountain]

lossless blu-ray

[devout ridge]

If the target device can stream the file directly, there's basically zero CPU load, yeah

[whole coral]

Can’t wait for another 2 gigabit fiber provider next year. Two fiber providers available here next year

[devout ridge]

If it's a different resolution, or if a different format is required, then the CPU has to step in to transcode on the fly

[whole coral]

I wonder if a third fiber provider can enter the city

Market saturation could be a concern though

[warped mountain]

Considering the current solo provider is $105 for 5mbps .., yes that right .. I wish

They really should have a map so you can know where to move to!

[whole coral]

There’s a little over 10,000 homes in this city. 3 fiber providers could work but it would be tight

[warped mountain]

Competition is always good for the consumer . Unless they are illegally price fixing!

[warped mountain]

quick sync worth it or no?

[edgy laurel]

for anthing video related, 1000% yes

[low sorrel]

Do it

[whole coral]

Maybe Verizon could expand to here

It will be very interesting to see where this goes

[warped mountain]

so no zen 5 🙁 darn

[merry stirrup]

we are

[low sorrel]

Actually wait for black friday

That's how I have 2.5gb fiber for 43 cad a month

ISPs actually have black friday deals

[warped mountain]

maybe Ultra 5 225? Could go raptor lake, maybe i3 14100 or i5 14500 (ecc)?

[whole coral]

Also yeah

But if you have too many fiber companies in an area then there’s less take rate

The amount of homes in the area can actually be a limiting factor

[merry stirrup]

i dont think quantum does that ill be fine

gotta schedule it probably next month though cause they dont have any appropriate jtimes rn

[steel stream]

ultra series has a great iGPU with a fantastic media engine

[pure garnet]

a lot of the lga 1851 boards have usb c only for display out though

[whole coral]

So like Company A could take 3,000 homes. Company B could take another 3,000 homes. Company C could take another 3,000 or so

[merry stirrup]

its server

[whole coral]

Was the fiber buildout worth it for just 3,000 homes?

[pure garnet]

still something to be aware of for initial setup

[merry stirrup]

pop in your main rigs gpu for the setup call it good

[warped mountain]

just found out H.266 was a thing lol

[hoary hatch]

Wasn't this just announced

Ehhh maybe that is AV2

[warped mountain]

vcc? 2020 says wikipedia

[merry stirrup]

av2 i think was just announced, and it has a licencing fee or something

[steel stream]

LOL

hey now that our shit is good pay for it

[merry stirrup]

lol

[edgy laurel]

development and existence is one thing, adoption is another.

[merry stirrup]

yeah nobody is going to because of afformentioned licencing fee bruh

oh ok

[pallid marsh]

So Samsung is never going to have it

[edgy laurel]

eh, HEVC is licensed and thats everywhere

[merry stirrup]

apparently its h266 with the fee

and av2 is free so

gg's i guess? 💀

[merry stirrup]

fairs

all my money gotta go to computer itself not computer software

[topaz veldt]

Right? And there's no way that car is in the same class as mullet

[edgy laurel]

I wanted to see them hit the scales afterwards

[proven cairn]

Yes

[whole coral]

Ehhhh.

For a 10,524 home city idk

Two fiber providers is ideal though for sure

If it was like a 50,000-100,000 home city though then yes three fiber providers is easily economical. Quicker return on investment (ROI)

[warped mountain]

6400 memory good for Arrowlake? or can i go lower?

[merry stirrup]

way higher

i think theres a 7200 2x16 kit for as cheap as the other cheapest kits, get thtat

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ThdG3C/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-pvv532g720c34k

[warped mountain]

"Up to DDR5 6400 MT/s"

[merry stirrup]

if you have a z890 motherboard it dont mattah

[pure garnet]

the memory controller is rated for 6400 but 95% of cpus run 8000+

[merry stirrup]

if not z890 then y eah get the 6400 kit

[pure garnet]

mine just barely boots 9000 and floppa dailies 9000 on a better chip

[merry stirrup]

this is true

[merry stirrup]

and thats being generous to the ones that dont

[warped mountain]

B860 has memory overclocking, so go higher?

[merry stirrup]

seems like most top out somewhere in the 8600-9266ish area with non ckd a die

[pure garnet]

whats the use case for this thing

[merry stirrup]

its a server but i mean xmp at 7200 is pretty fool proof

[pure garnet]

yeah i'd just buy a good xmp kit then

[merry stirrup]

im hard pressed in between using my 13900ks as a server or buying a 10400

[pure garnet]

if not jedec ecc on w880?

[merry stirrup]

yeah 2 routes here lol

just normal good xmp or like full actual workstation-ish grade

[merry stirrup]

\13900ks is more expensive but like literally some of the best for server hosting so idk

[pure garnet]

you already have it so

unless you plan on reselling it just repurpose it

[merry stirrup]

yeah but then i cant sell you the board and get a cheapo 12700k for my sister

this is the predicament

i mean i can still buy the 12700k ig but 🙄 you get it

[warped mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGtYMC good start?

[merry stirrup]

can probably find a z890 board on ebay thats itx for same price or less , psu is WILD

whole thing wild hold on

[warped mountain]

why? its only $200, or have PSU fallen from teh 400-500 i got used to 0.0

[merry stirrup]

your system will draw less than 100w more than not

[devout ridge]

how long has it been since you looked at PC parts? 10, 15 years?

[pure garnet]

that psu is probably the weirdest unit i've seen

[warped mountain]

last build was 1950x /1080 ti full setup $6k. woudl be over $15K to do teh same level of components 0.0

[pure garnet]

why is it so low capacity for how overbuilt it is

[whole coral]

I’m kinda glad the monopolistic ISP is finally upgrading their network more in our area

[warped mountain]

ahh yeah i only looking for top efficency,

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhTT6Q

[warped mountain]

yeah i wanted to stay "in teh curve" as much as possible

[whole coral]

I think the city gave them like $40,000,000 in total in the last 20 years of them being a monopoly

[merry stirrup]

you overshot by a fucking light year then

psus are most efficient at 80%(ish) load

[warped mountain]

does that motherboard have Thundrbolt 45/5?

[merry stirrup]

the money you save from efficiency gains on that unit will be made up in 30 years

[pure garnet]

realistically no psu is gonna sit in the best efficiency band during idle

and titanium vs gold is what, 4% more?

[devout ridge]

it has a single TB4

[brittle trellis]

A be quiet 750W for $180 is a horrible deal

[devout ridge]

there aren't any non-apple products with TB5 as of now afaik

[merry stirrup]

why are we lying it has two

[brittle trellis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jfHp99/corsair-rm750e-2025-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020295-na

[devout ridge]

Sorry i was still looking at his original list

[merry stirrup]

oh my bad

[merry stirrup]

works yeah lol

[topaz veldt]

I dunno if they do outside of qualifying...

[amber girder]

Why won’t my non rgb and rgb 2x8 ram kits run together at above 3200mhz I’ve adjusted the fclk too. Tried going at 3466 dram freq + 1733fclk. I’m
Well aware I won’t hit 3600 do I just have to bite the bullet and scale down

[brittle trellis]

HALF the price

[devout ridge]

That is indeed what happens when you mix ram kits

[warped mountain]

i assume since you are recomending it, AsRock is back to its good x79 exstreme 11 days?

[pure garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YcjkVF i'd do something like this personally

[brittle trellis]

Or a slightly better unit with a longer warranty for still less than $120 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPMMnQ/corsair-rm750x-2024-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020285-na

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hqQ2h7

if we are big ballers id buy this as a nas/server

[warped mountain]

ahh im used to non modular 1000w basic gold being $349... lol

[merry stirrup]

the CKD is literally just cause its cheap enough to justify

[devout ridge]

I have at no point recommended anything during the course of this conversation, though floppa has

[brittle trellis]

How the fuck are you used to that

Man hasn't bought computer parts in 15 years

[merry stirrup]

245K is only 20$ more than the 225 or whatever

[warped mountain]

yeah need 4 but obvisouly TB5 is backward compatable

[warped mountain]

i assume since you are recomending it, AsRock is back to its good x79 exstreme 11 days?

[merry stirrup]

yes and that is a good shout

x79 extreme 11 is a great board

[amber girder]

Okay but I did all of the research, they’re the exact same make/model/speeds/timings/clock cycles etc… literally the only difference is one set has rgb and the other doesn’t. Should still be fine at 3200 in your opinion or not worth?

[merry stirrup]

Z890 Nova is a mini version of my board, should do 9K plus

[steel stream]

core ultra my 🐐

[warped mountain]

is there a reason for teh ram downgrade, liek other than value?

[pure garnet]

yeah, 8800 isn't something every chip will do

and i don't take you as a ram tuning type

[merry stirrup]

8400 CKD is only 300 and its 2x24

[steel stream]

wait 8400 for NAS?

[merry stirrup]

may as well bro is a baller shoulda seen the OG list

and ram is so overpriced that high speed kits are as cheap if not cheaper than 6k's

[pure garnet]

8800 xmp is like buying an 8000 kit for raptor lake

it’s hopium

[merry stirrup]

i dont think so

[warped mountain]

would you actually OC it tho? isnt teh point liek stability and efficency?

[merry stirrup]

i am a fucking freak wrong person to ask

245K is better for chances at high mem speed

[warped mountain]

that was umm like right before threadripper 2k came out

[merry stirrup]

locked chips cant change SA or anything

[pure garnet]

personally if i was building a server id just run it at jedec

[brittle trellis]

What is this bastardised list, the ram has RGB and is more expensive per GB and that PSU is questionable (not the quality, but the company behind it)

[merry stirrup]

that is the baller list

montech reputable enough, the psu is good thats what matters

[topaz veldt]

what on earth is going on

[brisk jolt]

[warped mountain]

it was my OG NAS build list board back in teh day because of that built in LSI

[brisk jolt]

good question

[pure garnet]

ah yes $/gb

[merry stirrup]

watching some guy build an overkill nas and encourage it

[pure garnet]

the defining factor of memory quality

[merry stirrup]

fuck w/ it heavy

[pure garnet]

not that i picked that kit because it was the cheapest with good primaries

[warped mountain]

i mean i could do it, and have, but you are right, i wont. and my power is variable soo can cause stable to become unstable

[young void]

[brittle trellis]

You really are old

[topaz veldt]

You should mention bit flip and data corruption and the necessity for ECC

[merry stirrup]

like this is literally a list for you

[warped mountain]

ahhh yeah because bin! better bin becuse power vs ghz

[merry stirrup]

no

[pure garnet]

why are we complaining about the montech then linking an rme btw mr ethan

[topaz veldt]

Thats basically my plex server but its a 265K and Corsair SF1000

[merry stirrup]

because locked chips cant change their sa voltage

[pure garnet]

worse unit moment fr

[merry stirrup]

SA is system agent and very important for memory speeds

[topaz veldt]

[merry stirrup]

id say above 8k w/out changing sa volts is a pipe dream

and even then prolly still nah

[pure garnet]

oh yeah was it 8800 on a 225f

[warped mountain]

my and Linus had teh same "1st balling rig" lol X58 BBY!

[topaz veldt]

Pro tip - if you are building a system to store data don't OC the memory

[merry stirrup]

'no oc it like crazy

[warped mountain]

i think i mentioned that in the first post

[merry stirrup]

PLEASE

[pure garnet]

w880 and 6400 jedec ecc sounds good to me

[merry stirrup]

itx w880 tho? yeesh

[pure garnet]

where’s the w series lover

[topaz veldt]

I'd prob go 6548Y dual with 512GB ECC

[pure garnet]

@shell void come preach your love for jedec ecc

[merry stirrup]

looking at like 700$ for the board

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/pick-me-blake-shelton-the-voice-choose-me-over-here-gif-16888083

[merry stirrup]

man

no tb4 i dont think

[steel stream]

would

[merry stirrup]

YOU WAHT

[warped mountain]

i asked "maybe Ultra 5 225? Could go raptor lake, maybe i3 14100 or i5 14500 (ecc)?" https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/381193840159358976/1437577033847930931

bones for NAS

[topaz veldt]

Why do I believe we're going to hear about NAS for like 8 days now

[merry stirrup]

W680 is still a lot of money

[steel stream]

🪵

[devout ridge]

he likes doing his mad scientist research for several days at a time and making zero decisions

[low sorrel]

Skill issue move to canada

[merry stirrup]

there is no w680 on ebay thats itx

[warped mountain]

no i already have a plan, but just need some guidance. ans a set goal without creep, learned from the laptop "party"

[warped mountain]

ohhh its not like rzn where if it supports you can just chuck it in?

doesnt ddr5 have "ecc lite"

[merry stirrup]

thats on everything though

[pure garnet]

on die ecc doesn't work like real ecc

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

n, still also up to the board

[warped mountain]

my ddr3 1600 woudl like ot talk to you

[pure garnet]

cheapest w880 board i see is $450 so i'd probably just do non ecc

[merry stirrup]

asrock i think is the only manu that bothered with ecc support on am4

[merry stirrup]

everything ddr5 bro

[topaz veldt]

Any NAS that doesn't have OOB access is unserious

[proven cairn]

Hey chat

[warped mountain]

okay so ECC yes or no for NAS?

[merry stirrup]

on consumer boards***

[proven cairn]

Lol oob

What’s oob

[merry stirrup]

its not economical in reality but do whatever you want mane 😭

[topaz veldt]

Memory is not economical right now, but your NAS should not be DDR5

[warped mountain]

hmm, skip intel and go Ryzen for ECC and give up Quick Sync?

[merry stirrup]

your nas should be ddr5 because fast

[proven cairn]

Thanks Sam Altman

[merry stirrup]

sounds like a terrible idea

[proven cairn]

SK Hynix needs to make some more rams

[topaz veldt]

2 channel DDR5 is slower than 12 channel DDR4

[proven cairn]

Ok

[pure garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jKRXjn i would just do this and not worry about ram overclocking

[merry stirrup]

2 channel ddr5 draws less power than anything with 12 channels

[pure garnet]

or swap to the b860 to save another 50

[proven cairn]

No.1 Intel shill

[topaz veldt]

It draws a lot less power when its powered off because of bit flip

[warped mountain]

i was honing in on arrow lake since .. .in therory wont need dGPU for transcode?

[merry stirrup]

yeah id do this

[topaz veldt]

NAS don't transcode

[merry stirrup]

245k tho

20$ more id for memes

[young void]

Out Of Box, maybes

[topaz veldt]

Out of band

[proven cairn]

Ok

[warped mountain]

tripl echannel DDR3 was WILD when ddr fiorst launched and people were still buying single 4GB sticks!

[steel stream]

can't wait to make 265K a nas build fr fr

[topaz veldt]

ok

[warped mountain]

🤬🤬🤬

[low sorrel]

But why tho

[frank zealot]

what? a NAS doesn't transcode

[merry stirrup]

what if i get bored and want to blow up my nas

[warped mountain]

okay let me start over then

[merry stirrup]

what if i upgrade my nas then have an extra rig

[steel stream]

DIMMs aren't waterblocked, lame

[merry stirrup]

id want it to be koverclockable

[young void]

Snails hardware be vast

[warped mountain]

Goal
Hello,
I currently have ~62TB of storage among 25 drives. I want to build a NAS for Christmas to protect my data and have finally all organized.
I would like to have the option to stream to my phone or TV at 200Mb/s bitrate (148 being UHD Blu-ray lossless IIRC), 10-BIT, HDR10/Dolby Vision, H.264/ H.265 wirelessly.
If possible, I would also like to have my Steam, EA, Battle.net, Games stored on the drive, so I don’t have to install/uninstall weekly. I would like to step away from cloud storage eventually. I add 8-16TB per year depending on life.

[turbid locust]

Intel fkin sucks so

[topaz veldt]

Buy a synology or qnap

[steel stream]

you motherfucker

[merry stirrup]

is this pent up rage about eight k

[proven cairn]

Intel GPUs are poggers, B990 when

[young void]

Lol

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/rowley-don't-call-me-dont-come-by-my-house-we’re-done-gif-13830806584161282948

[low sorrel]

I mean it's good value for a nas

[merry stirrup]

im making a meme just for this ufcky ou

[warped mountain]

oh shit really?? cheaper than DITY finally?

[turbid locust]

No this is “Mac makes rage bait comments about hardware he’s currently running”

[proven cairn]

I wasn’t paying attention, it’s for a nas?

[topaz veldt]

No but you don't sound experienced enough to DIY it personally

[steel stream]

phone
200 Mb/s HDR10 DV
:(

[brittle trellis]

That was a joke. Don't buy a Synology or qnap

[turbid locust]

Fuckin Ngreedia

[low sorrel]

Yeah

[proven cairn]

🆗

[merry stirrup]

yeah but you still have shit memory

[warped mountain]

ive built 6 rigs... new to "performance" laptops tho

[turbid locust]

yeah well your cpu is slower so womp womp

[merry stirrup]

no its not man 💀

[pure garnet]

[merry stirrup]

arent you on your 14900k thats at stock settings 💀

[steel stream]

in other words "nuh uh"

[turbid locust]

no why tf would I do that

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[topaz veldt]

10% of success of building a nas is plugging shit in - the other 90% of success is knowing how to set up the data

[warped mountain]

#1 is this achievable? #2 so what do i build? https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/381193840159358976/1437590879891230800

[turbid locust]

TC2 mfs when I don’t want to waste money on a platform that’s slower than previous gen

[frank zealot]

cheaper, no.

Easier in general? yes

[merry stirrup]

i thought you returned the x3d my bad

[low sorrel]

Isn't your 14900k deged?

[turbid locust]

I did

[merry stirrup]

my 13900KS is on the IMC

[turbid locust]

no?

[merry stirrup]

okay then my cpu is faster than yours in games

[warped mountain]

last i looked they were about 4X-8x what they shoudl cost considering closed eco system and hardware

[brittle trellis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/39Q2h7

[merry stirrup]

its faster than my 7600 13900ks 5.9 config

[topaz veldt]

You are like 12-16x more likely to have a worse performing DIY nas than my $800 Synology

[turbid locust]

your gpu isn’t tho so WOMP

[merry stirrup]

yeah but at 1440p theyre pretty close WOMP

[turbid locust]

ur high asf

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[warped mountain]

why we are building it with teh collective input of teh LTT gang

[low sorrel]

He's in the PNW so probably

[steel stream]

we are stupid

[warped mountain]

go small mobo, we need space for drives

[merry stirrup]

im saying if you play X game on our two rigs the performance will be similar because of the resolution difference between the rigs

[topaz veldt]

You act like putting an engine in a car makes it fast. Completely ignoring the fact that it needs to be tuned.

[low sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-stupid-leclerc-gif-24300263

[brittle trellis]

Boy it's a fucking nas, get a bigger case.

[pure garnet]

yeah mac and i are returned 9800x3d twins

[turbid locust]

“My car is actually as fast as yours as long as I’m running an eighth mile and you’re going a half mile”

[merry stirrup]

this might be true

[brittle trellis]

You won't even find a case that uses excess motherboard space for drives

[warped mountain]

right but that diffrent than not having enough engine to start with, that polish, all you need is good bones

[merry stirrup]

youre upset that i can make a valid comparison and say i have a faster gaming cpu

[brisk jolt]

i believe the 5090 would still gap the 5070Ti in most situations

[warped mountain]

limited space for it unleess i want in ON my bed

[turbid locust]

yeah I’m super upset

[merry stirrup]

yes

[topaz veldt]

As someone who has made a career out of cloud-scale storage architecture.... "yeah ok dude'

[merry stirrup]

better explanation above

[low sorrel]

Mac when play val

[brittle trellis]

Skill issue

[turbid locust]

I did quite a bit over the weekend

[warped mountain]

so bad bones ton of polish is better than good bones with polish over time?

[warped mountain]

96sqft issue 😛

[topaz veldt]

I could build a faster/more resilient storage platform on a few Raspis than you can with $1000, yes

[warped mountain]

awesome .... sooooo

[brittle trellis]

The smallest you're getting is a Matx, an ITX only has one pcie slot

[topaz veldt]

Soooo don't DIY a NAS on a budget unless you want to lose data

[brittle trellis]

And you'll be needing an HBA if you want all those drives connected

[low sorrel]

But what if I wanna

[violet pike]

is there a way to filter out cases on pcpartpicker by max case dimensions

[low sorrel]

No

[warped mountain]

okay ill post teh whole thing :? i was trying to break it down into manageable pieces

[warped mountain]

who said budget???

[topaz veldt]

What experience do you have with zfs and linux

[turbid locust]

but yeah as soon as there’s a new cpu worth buying I’ll buy one

[topaz veldt]

You are talking about i5s dude

[merry stirrup]

im just buying stuff for oc

[pure garnet]

did the mpower ever come out in the us

[turbid locust]

until then idgaf I think my computer is fast enough?

[merry stirrup]

nah nah make it faster

[turbid locust]

FUCK no

[low sorrel]

No

[brisk jolt]

at the rate 60 series is coming out, it seems I am very likely to be skipping a perhaps zen +6%

[merry stirrup]

nah i think we have to import it or use b850m force

[warped mountain]

does it need more? sounded liek no from teh feeder questions

[steel stream]

you NEED another 5090

[pure garnet]

yeah i don't regret the ocf then

[pallid marsh]

Only by internal/external volume

[pure garnet]

im not putting that ugly thing in my pc

[low sorrel]

International volume? What's national volume?

[topaz veldt]

There's a reason I am running 6242Rs for my NAS....

[pure garnet]

that makes the ocf look stunning

[merry stirrup]

good luck finding it though, theyre all out of stock

[turbid locust]

floppa flaming me cause I don’t want to play termination RNG simulator

[brittle trellis]

Your enterprise work is blinding you from what a simple home server needs to be

[turbid locust]

like dude didn’t completely give up on RPL and buy ARL

[merry stirrup]

9k worked in a try

[turbid locust]

for the same reason lmao

[warped mountain]

get ready for the wall

[merry stirrup]

my cpu blew up 😭

[pure garnet]

im running xmp on my 2 dimm oc board too it's okay mac

[warped mountain]

sorry in advance

[pallid marsh]

They can't do national yet

[warped mountain]

Hello,
I currently have ~62TB of storage among 25 drives. I want to build a NAS for Christmas to protect my data and have finally all organized.
I would like to have the option to stream to my phone or TV at 200Mb/s bitrate (148 being UHD Blu-ray lossless IIRC), 10-BIT, HDR10/Dolby Vision, H.264/ H.265 wirelessly.
If possible, I would also like to have my Steam, EA, Battle.net, Games stored on the drive, so I don’t have to install/uninstall weekly. I would like to step away from cloud storage eventually. I add 8-16TB per year depending on life.

What RAID level is recommended? Raid6? Software or hardware card (do we still use these I believe LSI cards??)? What OS makes sense?

Would I need transcoding on the fly abilities? How do subtitles work? Are WD Gold 24TB still the gold (lol) standard for speed and reliability? Any other Recommended drives? Maybe Seagate 24TB IronWolf Pro?

Is All SSD an option? What kind of performance hit is the recommended Riad?

I have zero networking at my house currently. Is USB4 transfer an option if I want to quickly transfer 140GB file for use away from home?
Any prebuilt devices that meet this goal? Size is a consideration, secondary is power consumption, I don’t want it so low it can’t do what’s necessary, but also don’t want 7980XE at 365w, if you know what I mean lol.
With a little direction I should be able to build a cart for review. I would like to order this week if possible, so I am not stuck building over winter vacation.

[merry stirrup]

IM TRYING TO RAGE BAIT HERE

[turbid locust]

dw 7600 cracked tune coming soon cause floppa rage bait

[merry stirrup]

dw my 7600 tune still gaps

[topaz veldt]

No its not - I am not ignoring the fact that you can obsess over hardware all you want but if you have ZERO idea about what filesystem and architecture you're running its completely useless -- entire Synology/QNAP

[pure garnet]

smoke his crappy lego son

[warped mountain]

there you goal: Goal, and questions

[topaz veldt]

We're talking about a Network Attached Storage without any network

[turbid locust]

I bought the 14900k to have fun with and then just found out the platform is completely miserable so

[topaz veldt]

Dead on arrival, done

[warped mountain]

well we can build a network. last night brief discussion was NAS is better than DAS long term since NAS can DAS, but DAS cant NAS

[merry stirrup]

[pure garnet]

honestly after i hit 8000 on the tomahawk i kinda lost interest in messing with my stuff as hard

[merry stirrup]

[turbid locust]

dw if this $2K Trump stimmy hits we going X870 + 9800X3D at 8400

[topaz veldt]

You have literally mentioned approximately zero times anything about a filesystem or OS - like bro just google we're not your google

[merry stirrup]

bro this is the realest sentence ive read

[low sorrel]

What do y'all use NASs for

[merry stirrup]

(i would buy nvl)

[steel stream]

me and my roommates are buying a sauna from Costco for our balcony

[pure garnet]

trump stimmy x870e apex and 9800x3d yeah

[young void]

Data ya silly goose

[pure garnet]

i would be chilling

[frank zealot]

linux iso's

[steel stream]

torrenting and Plex

[merry stirrup]

59 45 52 @turbid locust see u then

[edgy laurel]

i don't have any

[low sorrel]

But like just stream movies

[brittle trellis]

You're obsessing over things that don't matter right now.

[warped mountain]

i assume TruNas

[topaz veldt]

OK Ethan

[frank zealot]

you're gonna want HexOS

[topaz veldt]

So you are between NAS and DAS with TrueNAS? Do you understand the conflict here

[edgy laurel]

but when I was 22-23, having a NAS and running XBMC / Subsonic was the coolest shit ever

[warped mountain]

... no one said DAS omgzzz

[merry stirrup]

my 80$ ddr4 server with ECC:

[low sorrel]

No but seriously what's the point just stream movies

[warped mountain]

all i want is NAS with a direct connect option that can do 4GB/s over a wire

[merry stirrup]

the humble broadwell workstation

[brittle trellis]

Give up on the usb transfer thing. Just get a portable SSD for your mobile needs

[frank zealot]

4GB/s? dafuq

[edgy laurel]

if you only knew lol

[merry stirrup]

the next one is only 50$ and STILL supports my sickass ecc

[warped mountain]

all 64+TB 0.0

[brittle trellis]

What in the fuvk

[topaz veldt]

LOL you want 4 Gigabytes per second over a wire?

[merry stirrup]

and its comet lake

[brittle trellis]

Your drives can't even do even remotely near that speed

[steel stream]

5nail I got a quick question for you, do you know why Plex says it can stream in a bitrate higher than the bitrate of the file? Like what's the point in that

[brittle trellis]

What are you smoking

[topaz veldt]

Now you are starting to see the foolery here

[edgy laurel]

This guy and his neverending impossible requirements and no real, professional use case

[low sorrel]

Nah nvme SSD NAS

[warped mountain]

yes you asked wahy NAS without network and i explained last night discussion, ..... i never said "actually lets build a DAS" 😵‍💫

[young void]

Movies, pictures, games just accessing anything something that reminds you of somone ya lost, pic of a dog, video of a family member in their prime who knows, saved password or file for x thing. Ones imagination is the limit

[brittle trellis]

Yes but your foolery wasn't helping and now everyone's confused

[edgy laurel]

he's been smoking it for a week now, its been a trip

[steel stream]

movie streaming is often low quality + you have to pay for it. TrueNas also does my own personal iCloud backup it's pretty nice to have

[warped mountain]

yeah my TB4 can do that rn

[topaz veldt]

You're not building an NVMe "NAS" that does 4 GB/s lol

[topaz veldt]

OK then you have the answers lol

[frank zealot]

are you planning to deploy 50gbps networking?

[topaz veldt]

Wrong

[steel stream]

I want to use it for storage for older games

[low sorrel]

How many photos do y'all take that you need a NAS

[topaz veldt]

with no parity overhead lol

[brittle trellis]

Forget about the network. All that needs a couple cables and a switch

[whole coral]

Gotta get that QSFP and SFP+

[low sorrel]

I have like 50 photos on my phone in total

[merry stirrup]

a 50 gigabit switch bruv

[young void]

My lady has filled google unfortunately so had to move it over i have a few hundred but she has thousandss

[topaz veldt]

What cables do you recommend for 4 GB/s

[dawn plover]

streaming has gone to shit over the last few years

[brittle trellis]

Your drives can't. Your drives won't even saturate a gigabit

[pallid marsh]

If you stalked more people you would have more

[steel stream]

it's super nice for accessing photos and videos across devices easily, otherwise I would need to send emails everytime

[young void]

Like its kinda ridiculous but I get itt

[rocky shoal]

Hey now

[edgy laurel]

what he wants, and what I joked about when I linked over the weekend, is one of those overpriced disk towers that just have a TB plug on the back.

[merry stirrup]

100gbit switches are like thousands of dollars

[warped mountain]

no over a USB cable. not Cat5

[frank zealot]

you don't NAS over USB

[rocky shoal]

They are important

[young void]

Im just the backup guy xD doing my part

[merry stirrup]

the n in nas means network

[edgy laurel]

no one is catching on. he doesn't want a nas

[topaz veldt]

Have you researched... like... at all... about RAID performance

[rocky shoal]

My own personal tech support

[brittle trellis]

As I said, your foolery isn't helping. Try actually helping and explaining things instead of going around in circles mocking them with everything they say

[low sorrel]

Like the only photos I have on my phone is me looking grumpy for no reason at graduation when my friend forced to take photos

[warped mountain]

.... we haven't gotten to drives yet 😈😈

[shell void]

i bet that stuff is so expensive rn

[topaz veldt]

You don't get to use my word and pretend to be a professional Ethanm

[merry stirrup]

it was so bad looking

[shell void]

it was already pricey pre spike

[pallid marsh]

I didn't go to my graduation I just had them mail my shit to me

[frank zealot]

are you going to build on Threadripper / EPYC / XEON with SAS Flash Storage?

[edgy laurel]

explaining things does nothing, he just rants on and on about these unrealistic requirements for no reason. please understand its been a full week, many people have tried to be reasonable.

[topaz veldt]

Have you been here for the last oh... 9 days? This person has wasted, collectively, maybe 90 hours of peoples time and now he wants 62+TB of NAS with no network and 4 GB/s transfers and small and is looking at i5's

[merry stirrup]

https://www.fs.com/products/158185.html?

fire

[low sorrel]

I mean I paid for it might as well go

[whole coral]

QSFP28 for the win

[edgy laurel]

What he wants is this, but maybe with SSD's and TB4.

Just a ton of storage, and a simple TB Type C plug.

[warped mountain]

ohay lets try again slowly for those that are struggling. i am build a (whatever box taht can do what i asked). since wifi is slower than a cable, i would like the option to move 150GB quickly over TB4/USB4. since it will be faster than wifi. @topaz veldt is everyone tracking now?

[brittle trellis]

Quit being an idiot for a moment
Forget about tb4, forget about any USB connection.
Unless you spend 20k on fucking kioxia ssds you're not saturating any high speed connection.

[topaz veldt]

And to pretend that RAID6 doesn't have a DOUBLE WRITE PENALTY

[topaz veldt]

Blocking you bud, enjoy the abyss

[warped mountain]

i totally have teh hardware to do this 😛

[edgy laurel]

i'm sure he'd be ok if it was just striped

[brittle trellis]

You're the one struggling. Stop it.

You won't be using wifi or a USB cable

[whole coral]

The Intelligent PON fiber nodes on the pole has Remote OLT and 2x 100 GbE QSFP28 ports for network uplink

[frank zealot]

you're literally putting together word salad. Nothing you've said is even remotely logical.

Congratulations, you don't know what you're doing.

[topaz veldt]

I don't have the patience for 900 questions with no research and then be told I am struggling

[brittle trellis]

No cable speed is going to matter when you're pulling from a handful of hard drives

[low sorrel]

^

[topaz veldt]

You don't understand that underyling data architecture matters... you are not getting 4 GB/s with TB9 on hard drives.

[frank zealot]

Fun Fact:
A build with 10gbps networking can move 150GB of data in a little over 2 minutes. (Assuming your storage can keep up)

If that's not fast enough, you need to go highly specialized.

Also: No NAS in existence uses USB / Thunderbolt as an interface.

[warped mountain]

we arent doing a 10 gig build in an RV

[frank zealot]

why

[topaz veldt]

Also what an insane baseline requirement - 4 GB/s

[merry stirrup]

so instead were doing 100 gbit in an rv

[brittle trellis]

I very much understand that, and am trying to explain it in a way they might understand better

[frank zealot]

10gbit is actually VERY accessible today. Trying for 50+ is not.

[topaz veldt]

They won't, they don't, and they have spent -1408147147 units of effort in trying to, otherwise we wouldn't be here.. AGAIN. We just did this for laptops for like 7 days

[warped mountain]

we can reed at raw 2.3 GB/s id we use spinning platters

[steel stream]

"Welcome back to Linus Tech Tips, and today we put a whole server rack in my wife's minivan!"

[frank zealot]

how many fucking HDDs do you plan to put into this box?

[topaz veldt]

Except I have buddies with 10 Gbps networking who cannot get anywhere near that in terms of throughput due to inherent design considerations

[warped mountain]

proably 10

[brittle trellis]

What fucking hard drives are reading at 2.3GB/s???

[pure garnet]

why do we need tb4 for a 4k bluray over jellyfin?

[brittle trellis]

Even a sata SSD only does half a gig

[pure garnet]

it's around 128Mbps which is doable even on gigabit

[topaz veldt]

I am glad you are all starting to see the ridiculousness

[pure garnet]

do you think Mbps = MB/s?

[frank zealot]

and you're worried about the 10gb networking being a problem in an RV?

You're so far beyond the fuckin' pale

[whole coral]

Megabits per second is different from Megabytes per second.

[topaz veldt]

6 SATA SSDs in RAID6 do like 200 MB/s

[whole coral]

Gotta know the difference

[low sorrel]

One that the head spins so fast that it turns into a helicopter

[brittle trellis]

*in the best conditions

[pallid marsh]

Good consumer sata ssds are hardly made

[steel stream]

i've been onto this since day 1

[frank zealot]

Kool, stop being stupid, and just buy one of these and call it a fuckin' day for yourself:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1773205-REG/asustor_fs6712x_flashstor_12_pro_12_bay.html

[topaz veldt]

Its exhausting dude

Also dude has zero network and pretends he needs some ultra fast access networked disk storage

[brisk jolt]

10 minutes into class and I wanna get the fk out and get some wa’er

[topaz veldt]

Like ... its constant "Buying my first car I want something with a V12 and gets 30 mpg"

[low sorrel]

Hey I want something with a v12 and 30 mpg

[frank zealot]

Dude "needs" a minimum of 40gbps networking to function.

Dude needs to realize he has no clue what the fuck he's talking about

[low sorrel]

That would be great

[brittle trellis]

man wants a Chiron but needs a corolla

[brisk jolt]

They cant differentiate want and needs

[frank zealot]

I require 50mpg on that vehicle. Make it happen.

[pallid marsh]

That's easy just always drive down hill

[whole coral]

I would love 40 gigabit networking tbh

[topaz veldt]

But then says "Theres no budget" but also "I am looking at i5"

[steel stream]

the moment I saw the immersive Dolby Vision/ HDR mobile experience and nit requirements, the flags got set

[pure garnet]

fuel injectors sending a light mist in the chamber

[low sorrel]

I mean 30mpg isn't impossible with a hybrid

[brittle trellis]

no budget

Lives in a trailer

[brisk jolt]

I think we should get them off at something with a rotary engine… He’ll have plenty of problems

[topaz veldt]

Now you are seeing the light

[wise bear]

Oh god kool is STILL going?

[brittle trellis]

has no network

Thinks setting up a switch and 3 cables is hard

[steel stream]

kool and the gang

[frank zealot]

Talking about 3000$+ of networking gear alone to function

[low sorrel]

I mean Peyton don't you live in trailer

[pallid marsh]

Fancy trailer*

[wise bear]

manufactured home but nicer than an actual trailer

[frank zealot]

now he requires 4GB/s minimum transfer speeds to his NAS on HDDs

[wise bear]

I also have money

[low sorrel]

Aren't you unemployed

[brittle trellis]

For their actual needs that they don't realise yet... A couple hundred dollars in network at most

[frank zealot]

right? a pair of 10gbit nics isn't that complicated, and a small 10gbit switch? ezpz

[topaz veldt]

Why would you build a NAS that can do 4GB/s via some sort of TB4 cable but then is 1 gbps

[wise bear]

more waays to have money than just working

[pallid marsh]

Nah that's you

[frank zealot]

because you have the brainpower to think you need a NAS that does 4GB/s

[topaz veldt]

But you don't need 10 Gbps with like 6 spindles in raidz2... it'll do 200 MB/s

[brittle trellis]

A single gigabit is going to be enough unless they spend mega bucks on drives

[low sorrel]

I got rejected by Burger King

[pallid marsh]

Lmao

[wise bear]

thats sad

[dawn plover]

buy a premade NAS box from like QNAP or something idk

[topaz veldt]

EXACTLY

[frank zealot]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1773205-REG/asustor_fs6712x_flashstor_12_pro_12_bay.html

If you need all the speed? Just fuckin' buy this

[pallid marsh]

Do you have a food handler permit?

[young void]

Been called overqualified to work as a storage unit manager 🙁

Happens

[brittle trellis]

at their supposed storage needs they're gonna have like 6 ~28tb exos from serverpartsdeals or something that shit won't be moving anything at any insane speed

[young void]

Or dude was just trying to say I wasn't a good fit nicely

[low sorrel]

No

My sister said I don't need one for fast food

[pallid marsh]

Maybe they don't like worms

[steel stream]

speaking of, when the did drives get to be $13+ per drive, I swear they were like $8 per TB a while ago

[whole coral]

Ngl I’m gonna go see if I can get networking certifications

Would help me get a job in telecommunications

[topaz veldt]

Again, so now that we've pretended like I am cutting people short... this entire conversation is so insulting and lacks any investment in the context of anything

[brittle trellis]

"overqualified" because you have indicated some desire to find a better job and not stay there forever

[pallid marsh]

Here in the states you do

[low sorrel]

I kinda gave up half way through studying for my CCNA

[young void]

I just needed a 2nd job at the time still do

Not enough hours in the day

[low sorrel]

You just need to be supervised

[pallid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-welcome-to-the-failure-gif-24563965

[young void]

Back then was a night auditor though mehhh days

[topaz veldt]

Cisco Certified Nutella Angler

[low sorrel]

I kinda realized I don't think there's many positions open for a 16 year old with a CCNA

[pallid marsh]

I forgot your not 18

[topaz veldt]

Here's a tip

[brittle trellis]

You won't be 16 by the time you finish that CCNA

[topaz veldt]

Kids out of high school and college with CCNA generally don't make the cut

[warped mountain]

i believe level 1 said it was bottle necked no? 8TB m.2 still the biggest you can get? that will be just enough for 2026 if we are CAREFUL

[low sorrel]

I started studying this time last year lol

[topaz veldt]

Its a nice show of dedication but lacks any practical experience

[low sorrel]

Yeah I realized that part

And I don't exactly want to go into IT or networking

[brittle trellis]

What the fuck are you storing when you live in a trailer?

Someone needs better data management

[topaz veldt]

"Transfer at 4 GB/s"

"No write speed gain" lol

[young void]

At least snails honest

[topaz veldt]

Brutally, but honest

[warped mountain]

i like my trailer, i go camping every weekend and another 4 months out of the year, didn't make sense to rent when you are only there 1/2 the year.

[whole coral]

It’s nice to have knowledge of networking but hands-on work is important

[pure garnet]

dude what are you doing to have 8tb of stuff you need backed up per year

[frank zealot]

10gbit networking is slower than NVME Drives can move data, sure.

What's your point. You don't need faster than that.

[pure garnet]

are you taking a live recording with a gopro all day every day?

[topaz veldt]

I would (and have) hire an enthusiastic homelabber over someone with a CCNA out of highschool/college

[brittle trellis]

Ok, that kind of makes sense.... Sounds like you need a bigger one though.

But still, what in the fuck are you storing? The world's corn archives?

[low sorrel]

Ok what about a homelab and a CCNA

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/misscanon-misscornon-shifty-shifty-eyes-frightened-gif-26273986

[warped mountain]

wifi 7 no? that good for 2.4-3.9 according to revioews.

[topaz veldt]

It'd depend on how complex the homelab is

[frank zealot]

you're 1000% missing the point

What the fuck are you doing that requires 32gb/s of write speeds?!

[brittle trellis]

For the final fucking time, stop it with the wifi and USB bullshit.

[low sorrel]

I wonder if he thinks GB=Gb

[brittle trellis]

No drives you will ever get for any amount you're willing to spend will get even close to saturing a single gigabit connection

[topaz veldt]

like dude doesn't realize I get about 4.0 GB/s write speed on redundant array and it was probably close to $12,000

[frank zealot]

nah, a very reasonable HDD setup can absolutely soak 1gbit.

10gbit is hard tho

nevermind this dreaming of 32gbit

[wise bear]

I have 3 8tb drives in a z1 array and it easily can saturate a 2.5g lan

not hard to produce 250MB/s

[topaz veldt]

bro is talking about 4 GB/s, big G, big B

[brittle trellis]

#tech-chat-2 message

[wise bear]

and if you really need that kind of lightinng fast transfer? make your server into a data ingest station as well and use usb 4 and an external drive

[low sorrel]

They said that about an hour ago

[wise bear]

I know

[frank zealot]

like, for what dumbass is actually talking about:

He needs either Two NASs or a two-tiered NAS.

A big pool of SSD Storage for whatever his supposed 4GB/s needs are. (or are not, because imagination land)

And a separate gigantic pool of HDDs, because apparently he requires half a petabyte of storage, too.

[low sorrel]

Wait if he only wants 10 bays

[whole coral]

500 Terabytes. You don’t need that at all

[low sorrel]

Let's assume he gets 20tn drives

[pure garnet]

yeah but he downloads 8-16gb terabytes of crap every year

[pallid marsh]

If u recall right it's like 28tb he wants

[frank zealot]

he said an 80TB SSD setup was only big enough for one year, so

[low sorrel]

What is that 160tb?

[brittle trellis]

With 6 28tb drives you'll have 112tb of usable space in raidz2

[frank zealot]

140-145 after conversion

[low sorrel]

Close enough

[topaz veldt]

There was also the insane mention of adding like 16TB a year... would love to know what performant system supports expanding an array

[low sorrel]

140/4=35s

[warped mountain]

isnt it 1.1 GB/s max performance from Wendlle review? when each drive can do 7Gb/s

[frank zealot]

10gbit networking caps a little over 1.1GB/s

[low sorrel]

35s is wild for writing over the entire nas lol

[warped mountain]

just 20 years of games, media, photos, go pro footage

[wise bear]

for nvme that's gigaBYTES
for sata that's 6 gigaBITS

[frank zealot]

are you planning to spend 30K building this NAS solution?

[brittle trellis]

Be honest, it's the movies and tv shows. Your personal photos probably don't take up more than a TB and the go pro footage probably isn't much either

[steel stream]

still going

[low sorrel]

How do you even get a TB of photos

[steel stream]

ping me if i miss anything important

[low sorrel]

I have 5gig

[low sorrel]

You set up the g5 yet

[brittle trellis]

By taking them over 20 years and travelling as much as they do

[frank zealot]

I mean, if they're all RAWs or something? maybe?

[pallid marsh]

..oh

[brittle trellis]

I said "don't take up more than a TB" for a reason

[warped mountain]

yeah, idk kinda feel like you are leaving a lot of performance on teh table from that Celeron, no?

[wise bear]

bro.

parity calcs.

[pure garnet]

can someone can just hook this guy up with an enterprise vendor so they’re paid to hear this

[topaz veldt]

Its unserious

[warped mountain]

am i just jaded from my USB4 enclosure with a fast Gen 4 drive in it?

[topaz veldt]

there's no point here, really

[wise bear]

no you're just a moron

[warped mountain]

ive done 3 drive writes on the mac in 3 days 0.0

[wise bear]

uh huh

[brittle trellis]

No you just have absolutely zero clue what you're doing and are in wayyyy over your head

[warped mountain]

ahh

all i know is my t7 at usb3.2 gen 2(?) 10gbps is dog shit slow.

[low sorrel]

Like over the last 10 years I've haven't taken more then 2.5gb of photos and that's with like 90% of these being accidental screenshots

[fringe vigil]

sup

[whole coral]

lol here’s my storage

Paying $9.99 a month for 2 TB of iCloud storage

[fringe vigil]

why

[wise bear]

lol

[frank zealot]

you're high, but whatever

[wise bear]

and I take a lot of personal photos & videos

[graceful marten]

Oh do you now

[wise bear]

[low sorrel]

I think my Google drive is maxed out only because I have 8k raw video on it

[whole coral]

8K Jesus

Storage hog

[pure garnet]

i have 12gb of icloud photos since 2014

[frank zealot]

I maxed one out because I scanned hundreds of pages of game books to JPEGs at 600dpi

[low sorrel]

Jesus

Holy shit it's 5pm

[graceful marten]

I have 110gb of photos and 15gb of videos just on my phone. Not cloud storage either

[frank zealot]

Old game, and a lot of the data was never digitally released, so scanning physical books was the only way to get it

[low sorrel]

I've been walking for 6 hours???

[graceful marten]

wdym? its 2am

[pallid marsh]

Cat photos?

[low sorrel]

Where the fuck am i

[whole coral]

Strong legs lmao

Most I’ve walked in a day is like 10-15 miles

[torpid cargo]

probably more due to the files being transferred rather than the drive itself

[low sorrel]

I probably did a bunch of circles

[wise bear]

Something to that extent

[low sorrel]

Aight fuck this I'm not walking 3 hours back

I'm bussing

[whole coral]

My mom calls me and worries that I’m so far from home but I say to her I will walk back lmao

[pallid marsh]

Most of my photos I have are of my cats

[frank zealot]

I don't doubt it. dude's lost the plot and has no idea what he wants.

He expect to build a NAS that runs at 4GB/s off HDDs and wants it to be USB

[torpid cargo]

yeah, that's just not going to work

[low sorrel]

Tkitch come one why can't you do that

[frank zealot]

because physics

[low sorrel]

Imma be honest I thought he meant 4gb for a ehile

[wise bear]

fisics

[frank zealot]

4gbit would be actually possible

[low sorrel]

If I drop an apple on your head can you do it?

[violet pike]

going for a walk and getting so invested in some debate on your phone that you end up in the middle of nowhere. postmodern horror

[frank zealot]

can't hurt to try

[wise bear]

I'm surprised he wasn't mugged

[low sorrel]

MB can't reach

[torpid cargo]

honestly the usb is more of the issue than the 4GB/s

[low sorrel]

I live in canada

[wise bear]

yeah on the west coast, that means marth and heroine

[low sorrel]

I'm not even technically in the same city

[frank zealot]

you're not getting 4GB from HDDs in RAID Z2

[low sorrel]

I avoided that part

[wise bear]

fair

[frank zealot]

lob it, shorty

[wise bear]

I'm gonna move to portland next year I love it here

[torpid cargo]

well yeah not with raid z2

[merry stirrup]

shawty

[merry stirrup]

oh i get it now

i thought you were just calling him shorty im like bro what

[warped mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/topgear1224/saved/89J9K8 this is teh recomendation? in raid 6? obviously we will be limited to the 10gbps speed of the port. currently 62 Gb of data, so should be okay for a year or so, then do you recommend buying another one?

[merry stirrup]

ass tor nas

[lethal topaz]

this was the best ive ever managed

[whole coral]

27.46 miles damnnn

[pure garnet]

what the hell is that pcpp list

[low sorrel]

My legs hurt now

[whole coral]

Some people run for 27 miles and it’s incredible

[pure garnet]

it just kept scrolling

[lethal topaz]

i think my watch died shortly after that so it may have been slightly more

[whole coral]

The most I’ve run nonstop is 3.5 miles

[wise bear]

ngl I can't wait to get back home tomorrow because it's gonna be nice and I can go bike riding

[frank zealot]

if you need to actually get 1GB/s+ of data transfer?

Yes, something like that will BY FAR be the simplest way to do it.

[lethal topaz]

i couldnt

[whole coral]

Hell some people can do ultramarathons and run 100 miles. How do they do it?

[lethal topaz]

that took me all day of hiking

[steel stream]

yeah

it's pretty sweet

I am watching back to the future rn

[low sorrel]

The real question is how I didn't realize I was going too far when I passed multiple major roads

[lethal topaz]

this was halfway up

[whole coral]

Beautiful

[lethal topaz]

i think i may slightly like the mountains

[whole coral]

The fear of heights and/or space could get to me lmao

I do not like being out in very open outdoor spaces

[frank zealot]

agoraphobia is a thing

[lethal topaz]

this was a different, much easier nearby hike with a way nicer view

[whole coral]

When I’m out in very open wide outdoor spaces it feels like I could fall into the sky

[torpid cargo]

What are you doing that constantly needs the speed?

[frank zealot]

mind you, 10gbit networking can move 1TB of files in ~20 minutes?

And nobody moves files by the terabyte as a regular task.

[warped mountain]

right now i use my 2 USB4 active cooled enclosures with NM790 4tb in them, they real world 2.9-3.8 GB/s. i have my T7 but it over heats and clock down unless i put a glass of water on it. my T7 Shield i cant do anything to keep it cool since it lives in a blanket essentially. real world those do about 880MB/s according to windows. (when cold)

when i move 110GB movies around the T7 take FOREVER 🙁 typically i am putting 4-5 at a time on the drive for on the go viewing. i much prefer the USB4 but that are rather large. hopefully with NAS i can keep most of the stuff that normally on my hard drive and just use the internal SSD's on my machines to write to.

i was serious i have written 2TB to the mac since what ...friday night, and i havent even opened it up today.

[merry stirrup]

mind you this nas talk is still going

[frank zealot]

finally actual information.

And every single thing you just wrote says your "requirements" are absolutely a waste of time.

[warped mountain]

wym?? i was going off of my USB4 enclosure speeds. :/

did i miss something?

[frank zealot]

have you spent any time reading the thousands of lines of responses to you so far?

[merry stirrup]

man plex would blow your mind

[brittle trellis]

When you have a NAS you won't be moving 110gb of movies around beyond the first setup

[frank zealot]

First:
You can watch a 110GB movie off your NAS directly on 1gbit networking with a fuckton of room to spare.

[warped mountain]

i was looking at my ppc NAS builds to see why this one caused rage, but none of teh other ones

[topaz veldt]

Now I just need to get a flight home in time

[lethal topaz]

redirect it to my house ill sign for ya

[merry stirrup]

bestbuy!! @pure garnet

[warped mountain]

well when i leave i will have to still do the writes. when im home no.

[warped mountain]

not off site

[merry stirrup]

plexxxx

[frank zealot]

So, step one:

Stop making up bullshit for speed requirements, and forget about your NVME Enclosure speeds. YOU DO NOT NEED THOSE.

What matters is "How much storage space do you reliably need" ?

[merry stirrup]

jelly finnn

[brittle trellis]

Not even remotely the recommendation.
6 28tb hard drives in a zfs raidz2 pool

[warped mountain]

i have 64TB rigfht now add 8-16 per year.

[frank zealot]

If you're copying movies to a laptop or portable drive, you can copy 500GB in well under 10 minutes.
That's not a bottleneck.

[hoary hatch]

Actually I think he should drop his life savings on nvme gen 5 storage

Or better yet, optane

[merry stirrup]

so get this

[torpid cargo]

optane is slow, it's latency is the only benefit

[lethal topaz]

this is what ive been saying from the start

[young void]

I got like 10 16gb intel optanes lol

[hoary hatch]

Oh does he actually want "speed"
Shame

[frank zealot]

Okay, so, assuming 10 drives, you're gonna want 24-28TB Drives, each. This'll be 200-230TB of disk space

Which will set you back a huuuuuuge penny.

Also, if you're in an TV, you need to remember that your PC Case is gonna be a large brick.

[young void]

For educational purposes ofc

[brittle trellis]

No you won't be. You'll set your shit up properly and only download movies that are transcoded to a quality suitable for the device you'll be watching them on

[hoary hatch]

Optane is just better
Everyone should get an optane

905P for the children this Christmas

[merry stirrup]

why are you more loaded on hardware than me

[warped mountain]

it feels like the t7 take much longer than that right now. maybe i just am in a rush what im doing it so it feel much longer?

[merry stirrup]

im sussed out now

[hoary hatch]

Those things can be had for a few bucks

[merry stirrup]

worm secretly mega rich

[young void]

I just stalk deals kek

[merry stirrup]

no but he has other things too

[frank zealot]

probably. If you wait for the last minute, yeah, it always feels slow

[merry stirrup]

[torpid cargo]

are you going to areas with no network coverage? if not, you can definitely use something like plex

[young void]

Just good at trading things for other things is all

[merry stirrup]

i got a 2013 macbook pro for free recently

[hoary hatch]

16gb optane: between $4 and $10 dollars

[merry stirrup]

i dont have a charger but it does turn on

do i want a charger? no

[brittle trellis]

you will only ever need to download something if you leave your trailer while it's also not connected to the internet

[merry stirrup]

does it need to turn on? no

[young void]

Just lil m10s for linux isos ye

[merry stirrup]

does it look kind of cool when i take it apart?

fuck yeah it does

the wall of shame at work will appreciate that sexy pcb

[merry stirrup]

ive got more useful machines for even that

[warped mountain]

these seem to preform about teh same, any preferance?

[merry stirrup]

a charger is probably more valuable than the hardware inside

[brittle trellis]

Have you listened to a single thing that's been said?

neither of those.

[merry stirrup]

oh youre sayin the optanes my bad worm

[young void]

All good fams

[hoary hatch]

I prefer Seagate because I like danger

[merry stirrup]

cmonnn who doesnt like the look fo this bro

[topaz veldt]

I realized I got the membership thing

[merry stirrup]

yo youre more of a shill than me

[hoary hatch]

I buy from best buy when possible

[topaz veldt]

returns and such are easier

[hoary hatch]

I mean
Optimum purchase

[merry stirrup]

i buy from bestbuy to smite kyoko

[hoary hatch]

Great acquiring

[young void]

Lowkey jealous of ace

[brittle trellis]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/236112931239 6 of these @warped mountain

[merry stirrup]

yeah bein a tech and gettin all that fo free is sick

i can take all those resin pcs home if i want...which i dont...so....

but you get the point i get other neat things

[hoary hatch]

Thank God it arrives before Thanksgiving

[topaz veldt]

ROFL OMG

@merry stirrup @steel stream I just bought another 5090.... and look at this

[merry stirrup]

fuhhhk

it just got there?

[pure garnet]

the funny thing is i also buy a lot of shit from there i just find it funny when you say it so often

[young void]

Oh snap what are they replacing snails?

[merry stirrup]

probably the core

and or power connector

[young void]

Somethinggg

[warped mountain]

yes i often do. espically in the mountains up north, i can go off grid for &-10 dyas at a time before i need to go to toen to get more water.

[merry stirrup]

somethin was wrong with power delivery thats kinda all we presume but that can be anything under the sun

[low sorrel]

I have a charger you want one?

[merry stirrup]

canada

me not canada

[low sorrel]

I'll drive

[warped mountain]

??? https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/381193840159358976/1437610608164868256

[brittle trellis]

You don't need an internet connection to use Plex locally

[merry stirrup]

oh lord

[brittle trellis]

I've been saying for ages in multiple messages, 6 28tb drives

You've seemingly ignored every one of them

[topaz veldt]

I checked it this afternoon while cooking and it was "We have received your RMA and awaiting product" -- ordered new 5090 TUF OC, and now I check and it says "Your product has been received and diagnosed by our repair technician. It is currently in the process of parts replacement." - so they are fixing or replacing it...

[low sorrel]

Why do you need 4gb of speed for that little space

[brittle trellis]

Stop.

[warped mountain]

all of my seagate reconditions have died within 12 months, though those were 1,5 TB maybe better now?

[merry stirrup]

😭

[steel stream]

they knew those fuckers

[brittle trellis]

Skill issue

It's not 1999 anymore

[young void]

Glad theyre fixing it at least

[merry stirrup]

2 5090s otw just tell the wife they sent two by mistake

[steel stream]

2 5090s, a 488, and a partridge in a pear tree this year for 5nails christmas

[topaz veldt]

So here's what I am going to do. I am going to cancel the Best Buy 5090 for now. It will let me put my boat away and I won't need to change plane shit...

[low sorrel]

Give floppa one so the wife doesn't know

[merry stirrup]

i fuck with this

[indigo tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970761617065279538/1437605858635944208/20251110_175152.jpg

[topaz veldt]

she won't care - its that I literally have no where to put the other, other, other, other 5090

[brittle trellis]

They're $370 per drive and 6 will get you 109TB of real world space in a zfs raidz2 pool and can be easily expanded with more of the same drives later when you run out @warped mountain

Also you're in a trailer, give this thing some padding and turn it off when you're on the move

[indigo tree]

I'm gonna put a heatsink on my iPod...pray for me

[warped mountain]

why are they so slow at 190? wont that be noticeable? or no because of our bottleneck?

[topaz veldt]

check out ZFS vdev expansion

[young void]

Yettt

[pure garnet]

does your kid need his own pc now

[topaz veldt]

he sort of has one

[pure garnet]

5090 would go nicely in there

[warped mountain]

2009 .....

[low sorrel]

And then you give me your 5070ti

[brittle trellis]

Boy stop it with the fucking speed thing

[merry stirrup]

you are so funny

[wise bear]

do you understand that the speed is faster when drives are pooled together

[brittle trellis]

You don't need the speed you had with your horribly managed ssds and manual movie moving

[merry stirrup]

the mac bin?

[pure garnet]

if i got a free 5090 i'd send jerry my 5070ti that's more than fair

[brittle trellis]

This is exactly what the Plex server I use runs on

[merry stirrup]

yeah but does your 5070ti say mac

[topaz veldt]

my son has basically taken over the 9800X3D/5090 Master Ice build, but we also have another spare 7800X3D/5090 Master Ice build

[brittle trellis]

Serving many people

[pure garnet]

no but mine isn't an asus prime so it balanced out

[merry stirrup]

(i would do it jerry)

[merry stirrup]

no it doesnt where does it place in nomad

[pure garnet]

is nomad free

[merry stirrup]

yes

[brittle trellis]

@warped mountain making sure you see this one specifically

[warped mountain]

yeah... they cant handle road vibration? i guess i always though you run NAS 24/7 so they can protect your data. but yeah hmm ... never thought of turning it off LOL

[pure garnet]

later im watching youtube

[wise bear]

Jesus fucking christ.

[merry stirrup]

i will not spoil it

[lethal topaz]

why

[brittle trellis]

No hard drive will handle road vibration long term.

[pure garnet]

i can beat that with ease twin

there's 2% to go

[wise bear]

DO NOT EVER run a hard drive array while in motion you fucking rutabega

[young void]

BB offers convenience

[brittle trellis]

in fact NOTHING in your trailer should be powered on when you're moving it

[merry stirrup]

https://www.elmorlabs.com/product/elmorlabs-evc2se/

[pure garnet]

this project gets dumber and funnier every update

[hoary hatch]

Easy to return if there is an issue
Buying in a store is still kinda satisfying, quick time from purchase to opening

[wise bear]

how is this guy this much of a fucking space cadet

[brittle trellis]

Hey now we seem to be kinda making some progress

[pure garnet]

oh my gpu uses 12 pin not usbc thanks for the link though

[lethal topaz]

fair enough, also geek squad protection is hard to argue with

[warped mountain]

yes 4x in that setup so 760 max therotical. the golds were 298 each so 1156, but im sure there is a bottle neck in place to where it wont matter, wasnt dude saying full SSD can only do 200? so idk at this point

[merry stirrup]

you uh

[merry stirrup]

oh my bad

[pure garnet]

[warped mountain]

ahh. okay

[pure garnet]

i will not mess with my gpu because i do not feel like buying another

[wise bear]

fucking shut up with bottlenecks

[merry stirrup]

i have nothing to lose

[pure garnet]

i only have a 50 series card rn because michael went down the pipeline

otherwise i'd be on my 4070

[hoary hatch]

Geek squad what

Do they have riot shields?

[merry stirrup]

LMAO