#tech-chat-2

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echo hedge
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uh oh

turbid locust
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Guys, ya boi is committing to a somewhat jank NAS but we gonna make it work

pure garnet
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hdv nas?

gentle gale
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quite overpriced for a lunar lake device but i guess it works

turbid locust
warped mountain
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Yeah technically, but the HP refirb has to go back anyways and it showed me what my actual real world usage will be ...

Still deciding is having a "just works" Chromebook from Apple is worth it. Next week I will put it through its paces, there are definitely some nice to haves .. but to be fai,r at its weight, I feel like you could easily get a 16.

But yeah here was my favorite "hand feel" at Micro Center #tech-chat-2 message

echo hedge
wise bear
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its about 30%~ under the desktop variant but it's still baller af because modern dlss transformer model

arctic bronze
wise bear
# echo hedge

We went over this yesterday and I don't give a fucking tit

echo hedge
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well, thats good

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as long as u enjoy it, thats what matters

pure garnet
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the heatsink gas supershocked

gentle gale
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there's no other option anyways

pure garnet
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what are we even saying

turbid locust
wise bear
echo hedge
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im on a g513qe atm

gentle gale
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neither razer nor hp make 5070ti 14" laptops

pure garnet
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i have a g14 2023 and it works fine

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ptm'd gpu and cpu and temps are fine

gentle gale
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lenovo gave up on the 14" model entirely

pure garnet
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it's really that easy

warped mountain
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I'm looking for a good media device that I can also DD. This HP Flip Ultra is known as one of the best 2 in 1 and it's not bad but I need a more powerful screen. I also, although I do like the keyboard even though mine's broken, find myself just using the touch screen.

wise bear
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why do you need a 2-in-1

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they're generally underspecc'd compared to a traditional laptop

warped mountain
gentle gale
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if you want the super bright screen why not just get the macbook pro 🤷‍♂️

do you need any windows software i forgot

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you've been at this for days

pure garnet
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@turbid locust do you remember roughly how many frames you get at 4k in bf6

warped mountain
wise bear
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"wuhh obscure outlook feature"

pure garnet
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the 5090 pipeline is calling to me

echo hedge
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just buy a super computer

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thatll do what u need, surely

gentle gale
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though the ob goes on sale quite often

turbid locust
gentle gale
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for $2000 just get the yoga pro 9i with the tandem oled screen

pure garnet
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i get like 4k120 on the 5070ti

gentle gale
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or... the macbook pro if you want better batteryblife

warped mountain
wise bear
pure garnet
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destiny is the only game that's really been rough

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i was dropping to 80fps last night which is wild

shell void
echo hedge
pure garnet
echo hedge
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destiny 2 im clocking about 5k hours on atm

pure garnet
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6090+nova lake cannot come soon enough

warped mountain
# wise bear why do you need a 2-in-1

Tent mode, especially on my shallow desk. That's why I said if this is the best two in one experience, and the reflections on the OLED because it doesn't get bright enough are bugging me, then might as well go tablet

shell void
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you can buy my 5090 for like $1500 whenever i upgrade

echo hedge
pure garnet
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it worked out i got the 5070ti since the 4070 wouldn't be great for 4k

shell void
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5070Ti pretty cozy for 2160p

gentle gale
echo hedge
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i feel like i should be gaming at more than 1080p on a system running a 9070xt lol

pure garnet
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damn asus didn't give me the nits

warped mountain
gentle gale
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i guarantee you will be satisfied by the mbp display lol

shell void
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1080p is retro

pure garnet
echo hedge
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am i gonna be able to see the difference tho

shell void
echo hedge
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like my eyes are fucked, i have to squint to see certain things, so am i really gonna be able to tell

pure garnet
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it was glaringly obvious the second i turned on the monitor

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and i wear glasses

echo hedge
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same

warped mountain
echo hedge
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someone suggest a 27" 1440p monitor for me please, has to be 27" so it looks nice next to my current 1080p samsung

shell void
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my vision is -1.50 (20/150) and it's still blatantly obvious without my glasses so idk what people are talking about

pure garnet
# echo hedge someone suggest a 27" 1440p monitor for me please, has to be 27" so it looks nic...
gentle gale
warped mountain
echo hedge
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i currently have a samsung ls27ag32x, no idea if thats good or not

warped mountain
shell void
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how many nitters u got bro?

steel stream
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800 :(

pure garnet
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but i also just don't use my laptop with the sun directly beaming it

warped mountain
gentle gale
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are you exclusively watching these sort of scenes

pure garnet
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2023 g14 has a nice chasis though

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not too gamery for lectures

wise bear
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Oh my fucking god py_disappoint

You will never get a perfect laptop, stop making it our fucking problem

echo hedge
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is getting an oled monitor worth it

shell void
wise bear
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Life is literally full of comprimises

steel stream
gentle gale
steel stream
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I got a call on friday confirming it

turbid locust
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@pure garnet 100fps in the range at 4K Native Max

gentle gale
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i was considering a 2022 g14 but never got it

pure garnet
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oh word that's a lot better

shell void
pure garnet
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i'm at dlss balanced rn

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lemme boot it up and do native

shell void
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matte 1080p IPS is caveman technology

echo hedge
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i cant find my current monitor online anywhere

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its just showing similar monitors

steel stream
turbid locust
pure garnet
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are you just in the range

steel stream
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what game is this?

echo hedge
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samsung ls27ag32x

someone find me a product page please

pure garnet
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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Oof 290 gals @ $5.80

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4090 fill up

wise bear
steel stream
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woof

pure garnet
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oh maybe im super cpu bound then

turbid locust
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with... a 9800X3D?

warped mountain
# gentle gale are you exclusively watching these sort of scenes

It pulled me out of the immersion.

And everybody says that this is the best micro LED screen, obviously my 9i had one of the best micro LED screens as well. When I was at Micro Center the only non OLED screen that impressed me was the Titan HX mini LED.

Other than that it would have to be OLED. Which lines up every screen that I was like oh that looks really nice in person was OLED. Now I just need to get one bright enough to overcome that glare I posted. And that's not even like direct sunlight the sun's coming in through the window and then reflecting off the walls.

Here is direct sunlight 😬

echo hedge
pure garnet
turbid locust
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oh

pure garnet
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my tomahawk was cooked and i didn't wanna spend even more on am5

gentle gale
warped mountain
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And shaded sunlight

wise bear
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thats not shaded.

topaz veldt
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Is this chaos still unfolding?

pure garnet
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max 4k native i get about 60fps

wise bear
warped mountain
pure garnet
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i wasn't at max before and i was getting 100 so i was confused

steel stream
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Micro LED? I don't think we have that out yet

heavy spire
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MicroLED is still up in the 100"+ size iirc

steel stream
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yeah

warped mountain
fair wraith
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Is there any laptop that has actually noticeable protection from glare

warped mountain
lavish ridge
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how much would it bhe for a decent pc and what cpu and gpu should i get?

echo hedge
echo hedge
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thanks, i used 60% of my brain cells

turbid locust
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From a mf that went 5070Ti to 5090

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I think you just turn on DLSS Balanced and call it a day

topaz veldt
gentle gale
turbid locust
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5nail I bought NAS storage

pure garnet
steel stream
wise bear
turbid locust
topaz veldt
steel stream
turbid locust
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Two 4TB actually

topaz veldt
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I think someone pinged me about nas shit but I was out

steel stream
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fair enough

turbid locust
topaz veldt
warped mountain
# wise bear you have had SEVERAL GOOD LAPTOPS

9i - too heavy not enough battery life so you have to carry around the charger which means 10 lb in the backpack total.

**MBP ** - ehh just the blooming. Everything else is just Mac OS, with the stutters and everything like that when fast swapping apps. The price makes it hard to justify with the very limited useability....
Hell yesterday I was like oh let me just download this free app from the app store to go ahead and unzip this file... No no you have to pay for the premium version to unzip this ... Okay .. let me just go online and download one from Google... Oh they are app store versions that also require a monthly subscription or one time fee 🫤 what the actual 🤬 is this bullshit!

Flip Ultra - hard to make a final decision, with the buggy keyboard and the insanely loud coil whine (I believe unique to refurb), but screen is decent but no HDR calibrations so the colors are wrong, really proves OLED will be the display technology I'm looking for because of the zero bloom. Obviously the qlc SSD continues to cause issues, even when running Windows updates where it just gets overwhelmed and sits at 5 kilobits per second for 40 minutes at a time with 5 second response time..

I DO like using it in vertical tablet form, there have been some little bugs with the software like inability to wake it up in tent mode, but yeah .

turbid locust
warped mountain
topaz veldt
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This is too much

warped mountain
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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I think I've been on discord for like 2 hours in the last 3 or 4 days and it's just constant laptop shit

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Yeah no SMR

lavish ridge
soft jackal
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ruh roh raggy

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my gpu tweaking on some shit

echo hedge
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anyone here played elden ring?

warped mountain
topaz veldt
mint tide
lavish ridge
pure garnet
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swapped to a better gpu and a cheaper psu, added ram

turbid locust
lavish ridge
warped mountain
turbid locust
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So I’m just going to do two 4TB in raid 0 cause it’s lowkey just a fun project and I don’t really have anything important to really store lol

topaz veldt
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I want to put a smol syno down here for 2 or 3 cams

turbid locust
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Or whatever the ZFS equivalent of Raid 0 is

topaz veldt
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That's just a stripe

turbid locust
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Yeah that

warped mountain
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So the only concern you guys have with the surface is the price, correct? So I can start digging into reviews.

topaz veldt
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Double failure rate

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Now we're in fucking surfaces?

warped mountain
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No other crazy Surface Lore I need to know about?

turbid locust
topaz veldt
steel stream
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Mac be a man and just run 1 drive

pure garnet
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no journaling, no redundancy, just all skill

warped mountain
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Here is how I use it at home, that's why I'm thinking tablet or two in one because otherwise the keyboard is in the way.

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Video starts on the side of my face for reference

turbid locust
warped mountain
turbid locust
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but yeah 7700x is being banished to Truenas Scale box

pure garnet
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that's where am5 belongs

warped mountain
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Sometimes I'll put it up on the ledge next to the bed, but because of the handles, the laptops can't really do that

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Handle I'm talking about

warped mountain
pure garnet
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why do you need 3 laptops

warped mountain
mint tide
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can 3pin fans go to 4pin mobo headers?

warped mountain
warped mountain
warped mountain
mint tide
warped mountain
warped mountain
# pure garnet why do you need 3 laptops

Basically I'm only adding one, the 9i is retiring to what it should have been from the beginning which is just home use. The iPad is getting replaced, and then a new laptop to take the 9i daily driving spot

warped mountain
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Then after that build a simple NAS for this NIGHTMARE 💀💀

karmic folio
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how much money do you have @warped mountain

echo hedge
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bro could buy a girlfriend with all this laptop money

fringe vigil
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Oh wait spoke to soon

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It crashed lol

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now what kordell

merry stirrup
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just saw a ford rio with a bunch of floppa stickers

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enough to make a grown floppa cry

fringe vigil
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im updating bios

hoary hatch
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why

fringe vigil
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are u here

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dm if so

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which ones the one for bios, the driver tab or the BIOS tab

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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kordell im updating bios

warped mountain
warped mountain
# fringe vigil now what kordell

Disconnect the power ends of the cable to the GPU. So remove the end from the power supply remove the end from the GPU and if you're using an adapter unplug that as well and take close up pictures.

warped mountain
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Basically we know it reduced power it was 100% stable when we increase the power of stable for a while and then it crashed..

Power is going to be the issue if it's a resolvable issue on the user side. You'll probably have to use your phone camera to get really up close shots you're looking for any signs overheating or color change

young void
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Silly jorjs

echo hedge
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i say u give the pc a bath, then get in and have a cry with the pc

fringe vigil
fair wraith
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Does anyone know of a video where a 5080 is tested in 4k without frame gen I can't seem to find one

young void
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Diagnosing pcs can be pretty meh sometimes

wise bear
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ja vol

young void
warped mountain
young void
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@fringe vigil what'd sparks suggest im sure he's told ya something?

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He's usually pro lurker for helping

warped mountain
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Also if it was a colonel issue you would have been crashing at 40% power as well on the GPU nothing indicates that a bios flash is going to help you

young void
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I mean also $100 or so psu alot easier to cope vs another 4090

fair wraith
young void
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Same thing applies ❤️, my mistake for the typo though

fringe vigil
young void
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I mean if cant imagine him having anything new for ya unfortunately:/

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Butt for $100 replacement psu, or maybe a $100 gpu for quick diagnosing if no tech shops nearby myte be a thing i know it sucks

fair wraith
young void
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What title that is odd?

fair wraith
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Cyberpunk 🥀

gilded quail
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I doubt it ngl

fringe vigil
young void
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If you shutdown the pc completely, do you have a bios switch in your card? Lil silent/turbo or gaming etc switch

gilded quail
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That doesn't seem right for cyberpunk

young void
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Does sound weird for a demo title

fair wraith
fringe vigil
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kordell im not sure what else to do now

gilded quail
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I would get you results on my rig but the 5080 just got packaged up to sell

fair wraith
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Here's the video it's the first test he does

young void
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Yeah that looks about right

fair wraith
gilded quail
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Nah went to Linux so swapping to amd instead

fair wraith
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Amd gpu?

gilded quail
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Yeah

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Better driver support for Linux

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Nvidia hates us

topaz veldt
fair wraith
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Cool

young void
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They love me specifically lol

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||jokes||

fair wraith
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Lol

gilded quail
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The verdict is in: Nvidia will still love you if you were a worm

wise bear
young void
topaz veldt
fair wraith
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Can someone explain something for me

young void
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Maybes

fair wraith
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I kinda know what dlss is but not much of what Ray tracing is

topaz veldt
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I'm so glad I'm distracted this weekend otherwise I dunno if I could take TC2 just being a laptop video dump of random thought stream

gilded quail
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ray tracing is essentially just realistic reflections (this is by far the loosest explanation)

young void
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The complex rendering of light beams (or traces if one would) there's alot to it myte take some digging up

fair wraith
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Cool

fringe vigil
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does this do anything

wise bear
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its fine

warped mountain
fair wraith
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For some reason in the video the game looks more yellowish but idk why I've seen some where cyberpunk is more dark and the lights are brighter in game

gilded quail
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We love type c

young void
wise bear
warped mountain
fair wraith
topaz veldt
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Btw @fringe vigil If your GPU is stabled at lower power limit it does NOT mean it's a power issue. My one 5090 was more stable at lower power limit, but I moved it between 4 different PCs all with 1500W PSUs and it crashed at stock power limit. Lowering power limit lowers clocks, if the GPU is degraded it'll work power limited and it's not a PSU issue at all

warped mountain
fringe vigil
young void
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So snails verdict is gpu is dooky

topaz veldt
warped mountain
fringe vigil
young void
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Very possible been the 50/50suspect for myself and the other gentleman in tech support

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Juan or the other

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
indigo walrus
young void
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I choose youuu kirashii

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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my poor 4090, now i have to buy a whole new gpu

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im not made of money

warped mountain
topaz veldt
warped mountain
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Or you go pay $4 for a new GPU, then blow it up/ have issues with it too 💀💀💀

young void
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Snails was just an oddity

fringe vigil
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does founders ediition have warranty

topaz veldt
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@fringe vigil I tested it in 4 builds and tested some other 5090s in that build it came from, the problem followed the GPU

gilded quail
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most gpus should have 1 year limited warranty

indigo walrus
# fringe vigil does founders ediition have warranty

Most new products have some kind of warranty. Check the documentation to confirm what yours has. Usually at least 1 year. Sometimes 2. Credit cards sometimes double the manufacturer warranty, but the process to actually claim this through your credit card issuer is often a nightmare.

gilded quail
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Unless you buy from some shady dealer or used

warped mountain
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Me RN 💀 maybe I should have gotten the $800 4TB upgrade

teal orbit
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that's certainly a lot cheaper than $800 though

gilded quail
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ugreen my beloved

warped mountain
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True

warped mountain
fringe vigil
young void
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Myte be alittle over usually a 3 year warranty for the fe but youd need your receipt I think* worth checking

gilded quail
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This includes 4090 founders

fringe vigil
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So shall I send it to them mfs

gilded quail
indigo walrus
fringe vigil
gilded quail
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But good to be certain its the gpu first

indigo walrus
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I'm with others here; it sounds like it's the GPU or PSU - easiest way to test this would be swapping your GPU into another known-good working computer, or putting a different Power Supply (of equivalent wattage) into your PC and seeing if the problem goes away.

shell void
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i have returned from my pilgrimage to gualmar with a couple of boxes of jalapeño kraft

fringe vigil
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as for the psu I honestly don’t know, there’s no way to test

topaz veldt
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@fringe vigil what're the symptoms

fringe vigil
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Gpu shuts down and BSOD - black screen whenever I launch a game, or in premier pro

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Sometimes when browsing to but lot less common

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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The cable?

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What u want me to check

warped mountain
warped mountain
fringe vigil
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WTF GUYS

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my 12 vhr pin thing looks messed up

wise bear
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jorj's gpu melted rip

fringe vigil
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MFFF

topaz veldt
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Take a pic jorj

fringe vigil
warped mountain
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Thinking MAYBE, I was saying there was going to be problems without actually testing it.. this is how bad the reflections are in the sun is completely behind the building...

fringe vigil
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Wait so could it be my 12 pin cable thing

warped mountain
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And that's max brightness and HDR on

wise bear
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that actually mega sucks jorj im sorry

fringe vigil
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I can’t get the picture to focus

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The bottom pins look so messed up

mint tide
indigo walrus
warped mountain
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If you put a piece of paper behind it or put it flat on a table you should be able to get it to focus

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Hell, if you stick the actual cable through your fingers and just have the connector on the front, it'll also focus

fringe vigil
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OH NOOOOOOO

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It’s melted through

warped mountain
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Yep

fringe vigil
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look

warped mountain
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Knew it when it was stable at 40%

fringe vigil
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Let me show you

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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Oh shit

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I can’t take a good picture

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How to do macro camera

warped mountain
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The MAC does have the advantage here. But definitely not immune to the distraction reflections.

warped mountain
fringe vigil
warped mountain
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Also... How can I stop the damn Mac Pro from sleeping?? I just needed to sit here and finish this file transfer and it keeps going to sleep and breaking the connection

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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LOOOOOK

warped mountain
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Get closer, it will automatically switch cameras in automatic mode

warped mountain
gilded quail
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spicy cable

warped mountain
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No but for real on Windows I just tell it not to sleep how do I make the mack not sleep??

fringe vigil
leaden dawn
fringe vigil
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MFF

warped mountain
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Which makes sense for why all of a sudden happened and then why it kept getting worse

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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I knew I should have not returned the Corsair one

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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When all this melting was happening

fringe vigil
leaden dawn
warped mountain
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So if it's just the cable you can replace just the cable.... Now take a close up shot of the connector on your GPU

gilded quail
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time to order a new squid

warped mountain
indigo walrus
# fringe vigil How to do macro camera

Tap on the area of the thing you want to focus on. Sometimes you need to be a minimum distance from the object for it to focus. If it still won't focus, call Apple and demand they fix their product that's advertised to "just work." Then get told "you're using it wrong" and hung up on.

fringe vigil
warped mountain
warped mountain
fringe vigil
warped mountain
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Try and get those 4 pins in a single shot,

fringe vigil
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Ain’t that dust

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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Shitttt

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I hate nvidia

warped mountain
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These all appear to be hot spots and discoloration of the plastic and they are all isolated to I believe the positive side of the connector which would make sense because you had excessive resistance.

fringe vigil
warped mountain
fringe vigil
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How the hell do I get this fixed

warped mountain
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Can you confirm with your eyes?

warped mountain
hoary hatch
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does jorj have a melty

fringe vigil
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How much it costs

warped mountain
warped mountain
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You could try to reach out to Nvidia and say hey my power adapter melted but they're probably going to say it's customer induced damage.

fringe vigil
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NOOOOOO

warped mountain
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But I would definitely try to use official means of support before going with a third party because then you will have no support because then it's considered modified.

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This is day 2 with Mac 🫤 and as far as I can tell there's no way to force it to stay awake 👀

leaden dawn
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I saw a medium article. They vibe code now it seems. Got sent to https: //setapp/ when I tried to click that link. Their actual website and toolset gives me vibecoded vibes

warped mountain
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It needs to stay awake for 4 hours to complete this download.

leaden dawn
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Love the internet

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
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Mine is melted and fcked

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Will Nvidia compensate me

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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Mfs

warped mountain
# fringe vigil Will Nvidia compensate me

All you can do is call and say hey it melted is there any program in place to fix this. If they say no then the answer is no like I said if it was plugged in correctly it would have melted. So they do have the right as the company that's warranting it to tell you no that it's customer induced

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Butt it can't hurt to try the worst sense you can get is no and then you know you have to come up with another solution

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But again the good news is because you have a modular power supply you can just have Corsair send you a new cable you may have to pay for it, and thankfully because they use massive solder pads and not individual pads you should be able to get it fixed fairly easily by somebody that does small electronic repair.

fringe vigil
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wtf is my solution, MY MONEY down the drain

indigo walrus
# warped mountain When inserted completely out of 90° angle they have no issues and because that's...

Oh I'm aware... unfortunately, having the connector plugged in and NOT bent even just 1 degree is not feasible in real-world situations. Unless you have one of Corsair's 800D or 9000D mega size cases, the 12VHPWR connector will be bent somewhat after being plugged in. The laws of gravity and physics dictate this. All design flaws are avoidable... if a company is willing to spend the resources to test their designs in as many scenarios as possible.

warped mountain
# fringe vigil wtf is my solution, MY MONEY down the drain

#1 call Nvidia and try to start a warranty claim for the multi connector.

#2 if Nvidia says no reach out to a electronic repair shop and somebody should be able to solder it for you fairly simply. You will want to source a high quality 12 volt connector to replace it.

#1/2 call Corsair to order a new 12 volt high power cable for your power supply

#3 Enjoy your now fully functioning GPU

fringe vigil
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I don’t want no repair shop to do it I want nvidia to do it

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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I’m suing Nvidia

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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I would pay it

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It’s cheaper than buying a new gpu

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What’s nvidia contact number

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It’s not customer induced damage bec it’s nvidias damage flaw

warped mountain
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Oh MY GODDD. ....... You CAN'T wtf is this bullshit?????

merry stirrup
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i don’t think a 4090 is out of warranty atp though

warped mountain
fringe vigil
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Dude it’s always been straight loaded lol

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If they say no, then im screwed Basicslly?

warped mountain
warped mountain
# fringe vigil If they say no, then im screwed Basicslly?

Well if they say no to the warranty you can ask them if they're willing to repair it... They don't offer any repair services then your option is to go to literally any electronics repair person.. you could actually solder it yourself I'm just not going to tell you to...

warped mountain
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The good news is... It is highly unlikely that your actual GPU is damaged 🤘💪

fringe vigil
#

Why not fix it for a short sum of money, idc if it’s 200 I’d pay it

leaden dawn
indigo walrus
warped mountain
warped mountain
leaden dawn
#

I know weird proposal and all but can you do that on a not Mac?

hoary hatch
#

thats a....nvm

leaden dawn
#

Idk how difficult it is to install another OS on one of them, probably more work than its worth but

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

Can you just call nvidia and speak to them mfs

#

Or do I have to email

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

Surely you can call customer support

warped mountain
leaden dawn
fringe vigil
warped mountain
#

If you have a thinning like that doesn't get hot you can actually combine that with doing nothing when the screen closes and it'll download in your backpack 💪

leaden dawn
#

I was personally thinking Linux but whatever works. All I know windows might be better

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

Live chat with them mfs ? Or open ticket

#

Nah I wanna ask them over the phone

warped mountain
warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

Pu55ys

warped mountain
#

Very common nowadays and you can also not tell the accent of the person on the other line when they're chatting... You know America's political environment is kind of crazy so I recognize for security reasons why they would want that

leaden dawn
#

Amazon like

fringe vigil
#

Nvidia UK they’re all English

leaden dawn
#

I felt bad for them ngl

warped mountain
#

You think it's safe to use that outlet?

#

This is why I was like I need good battery life in general... That's the closest plug

brittle mortar
oak vector
#

I both love and equally hate them Fr

brittle mortar
warped mountain
#

I had to change to 150% scaling due to screen door effect. 🫤 There is no sun right now, look you can see me 🫣

leaden dawn
#

Everyone sucks nowadays

indigo walrus
# brittle mortar We can all agree apple sucks

Eh, I wouldn't go that far - I've seen people who live into their ecosystem (usually because they have the money) and really enjoy their products. After all, the best system is the one that let's you get the shit done that you need to do. But some of the "locked down" design choices software vendors impose on users make me want to scream. This applies to Apple, Samsung, LG, all automotive manufacturers, and pretty much anything with a computerized component in them. It feels like few manufacturers actually know what good design looks like.

leaden dawn
#

Only thing I can rely on is open source and even then there's vibe coding to worry about with some projects now. Like KeepassXC.

warped mountain
#

Okay Soo I know people are going to get mad when I ask this but.. three of my downloads have had corrupted bits in them.. Mac wouldn't have anything to do with that would they? cuz that's what I downloaded them on.

I mean maybe it could be because it kept cycling on and off the Wi-Fi??

brittle mortar
indigo walrus
#

Unihertz phones run Android, so they too suffer from poor design. That said, it's easier to sideload / modify Android so there is that going for it. 👍

warped mountain
# indigo walrus Eh, I wouldn't go that far - I've seen people who live into their ecosystem (usu...

Yes there are a number of things that are very much user friendly like being able to extend your screen with just and iPad nearby.. being able to quickly and easily transfer your phone over.. being able to start something on your phone and then finish it on your computer...
the problem is I looked into completely replacing my ecosystem.. even with me being actually reasonable on the products I was choosing... $7,000 ....

brittle mortar
leaden dawn
#

Yeeeeah. Once you are in its hard to get out. Part of why I left apple besides initial price, openness of the platform/ecosystem and not having USB C iphones before dropping the mini lineup

#

Like if I'm gonna be forced to get a phone larger than I'm comfortable with I may as well try android again

leaden dawn
#

Try 4.7". I'm on 6.3" now

brittle mortar
leaden dawn
#

I miss it

brittle mortar
#

If my main monitor is 49,and my phone is 6.8,then i dont want 4.7 or 6.3

#

And also,i love having a headphone jack sd slot and dual physical sim. Ir blaster, projector, and more

leaden dawn
#

Also miss these.

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But literally Samsung was the last one to make phones like that and they kinda stopped what.. 5 years ago now?

brittle mortar
leaden dawn
#

I never liked them for their software and preinstalled garbage but I did like the hardware on the flagship side. J3 was all I owned though and it may as well be e-waste far as I'm concerned

brittle mortar
#

Now i got this 3cm phone and 696 grams of weight ~805 after the case.

leaden dawn
#

Pixel 9 case makes this thing feel so much bigger than it is, and it's already big

#

😔

leaden dawn
#

6.3"

brittle mortar
#

Tiny

leaden dawn
#

Big for me and wanting a phone e for what a phone is for

#

Good battery life at least, and I can run grapene on it

leaden dawn
#

That's like a pound of battery strapped to a phone wtf

#

That sounds so heavy

brittle mortar
fringe vigil
#

Does 5090 have 12 pin cable melting problem too??

brittle mortar
leaden dawn
#

Like I want to be able to text comfortably with one hand, I don't get why everyone wants one to watch Netflix, I only do that when I'm doing the dishes or smth

echo hedge
brittle mortar
leaden dawn
#

Me neither technically

echo hedge
#

call it the jorjpu

leaden dawn
#

But everyone and their mom does so that's my example

warped mountain
#

Yeah ... Here is your "eco system" upgrade .... And you'll need cloud storage

brittle mortar
#

Can i upgrade my gpu some day

echo hedge
echo hedge
warped mountain
echo hedge
#

@fringe vigil lets see what melted lol

brittle mortar
fringe vigil
#

What’s why you buy a better 12 pin cable form Corsair

brittle mortar
#

980 Ti stays with 2500k

fringe vigil
echo hedge
#

uhh where

fringe vigil
#

Scroll up

warped mountain
leaden dawn
#

Meanwhile my ecosystem:

brittle mortar
#

gtx 460 stays with 9100f

warped mountain
#

Come on now lol

echo hedge
#

that doesnt look melted to me

#

@fringe vigil what card is it

warped mountain
young void
#

Oh damns

#

That'll do it glad it auto shutdown and bsod vs the latter

echo hedge
#

has he tried a new cabke

#

i feel like this is just a cable defect

young void
#

No but would likely be the answer, id replace the whole psu but personal pref

echo hedge
#

i mean im pretty sure he is using corsair extensions, should try with the manafacturers cable

young void
#

Manuafactuer adapter is recommended

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

in this pic i cant see any damage to the connector, i really dont think that top right pin is pitted etc etc, i think its just a mark from where the cable melted

young void
#

Worth clamping and checking

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

none of them pins are black

young void
#

Poor jorjs he is like the one person youd not want to have these struggles xD

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

im just glad to not be reading about laptops...

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

no thats from the heat coming from the cable... if u use a new cable, and dont have side loading, will be fin

#

fine*

warped mountain
#

And the plastic is also no longer correct because once it melts it deforms so you will continue to have problems with that as well.

young void
#

Only one way to knowww for certain

echo hedge
#

that plastic isnt deformed at all, if anything its scorched at most

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

its compleltey gone pulse are u blind

brave panther
young void
#

Plus a baur vid

echo hedge
#

that gpu is not cooked lmao

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

the coneector slot thing

echo hedge
#

and kordell cant even pick a fucking laptop

fringe vigil
#

but tbh its more the cable imo

echo hedge
#

try a new cable, whats the worse that could happen?

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

it either, A, doesnt work, like it doesnt now. Or B, works.

warped mountain
echo hedge
proven cairn
#

🥀

young void
#

But for jorjs sake idk maybe just replacing it

warped mountain
young void
#

If it was sparks or snails id tellem to just toss on a new cable/psu and clamp it for sanity

#

But jorjs id hate to havem have a fire or smth

pure garnet
young void
#

Leave it unattended

echo hedge
#

do whatever 🤷‍♂️ not my card so idgaf

gilded quail
#

Playing with literal fire is a way to get burnt

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

wtfff

#

are you sure

pure garnet
#

just rma the card jorj

echo hedge
#

now ur being a bit ott @warped mountain

young void
#

We just want whats best for you jorjs rma is best

fringe vigil
#

whats rma

gilded quail
#

What I linked earlier

echo hedge
#

its not gonna fucking blow up its not RTX 4090 North Korea Edition

brave panther
gilded quail
#

My brother in christ I've seen 3090s spark up

fringe vigil
echo hedge
#

the discolouration is metal residue from the friction from the cable

warped mountain
# echo hedge now ur being a bit ott <@309107412600881153>

Not really, you melt the connector, the positive, you begin to have a short between positive and negative however it's not strong enough to cause overcurrent protection it's isolated to just that one and all the sudden you're putting 100 amps through what 14 gauge cable, now you have flames,

granted the likelihood of a power supply staying on long enough in that situation to cause a house fire is fairly low.. well you can definitely have a little fire in your computer.

young void
#

Just depends is all

warped mountain
echo hedge
#

they wont

brave panther
fringe vigil
#

chat to a mf agent who will say no

warped mountain
pure garnet
#

jorj you send for repair and they fix it

echo hedge
pure garnet
#

it’s not a return return

fringe vigil
brave panther
gilded quail
#

You won't know unless you try

warped mountain
echo hedge
fringe vigil
#

okay so shall i tell that agent mf i wanna send it you to fix

pure garnet
#

literally yeah

fringe vigil
#

and give it me back in 2 working days cus i wanna play golf with friends

pure garnet
#

“card is having issues and crashing in every game with a power limit above 40%”

gilded quail
#

4090 for golf with friends

brave panther
pure garnet
#

all you gotta tell them

warped mountain
#

#tech-chat-2 message

#1 call Nvidia and try to start a warranty claim for the multi connector.

#2 if Nvidia says no reach out to a electronic repair shop and somebody should be able to solder it for you fairly simply. You will want to source a high quality 12 volt connector to replace it.

#1/2 call Corsair to order a new 12 volt high power cable for your power supply

#3 Enjoy your now fully functioning GPU

fringe vigil
echo hedge
young void
#

Idk what northwest repair charges but good work

pure garnet
#

the pins getting darker isn’t something i’d worry about

#

is the plastic damaged?

echo hedge
#

ur port is literally fine, this is a burnt out port, urs is nothing like it

fringe vigil
young void
gilded quail
#

Me personally I'd reach out to rma just in case they take it. Not worth risking an expensive card. If they don't then go the route of the replacement cable and hope.

brave panther
fringe vigil
#

i dont understand why i shouldnt try another 12 pin, i didnt think it would cause fire

warped mountain
# brave panther i remember you from y day

Well that was because I couldn't figure what I wanted to do... whether or not I wanted a render box for premiere Pro, and whether or not I want to transcoding to be able to have access to my library at full quality anywhere in the world.

low arrow
#

im new to building pcs do all of these parts work together?

gilded quail
#

Why?

pure garnet
fringe vigil
warped mountain
echo hedge
#

bro just sit and watch it like a hawk, if u see anything concerning, rip out the power cord

low arrow
fringe vigil
echo hedge
#

Return Merchandise Authorization

frank zealot
#

What happens when people want to think they're smart?

This happens.

fringe vigil
#

gimi my money back then

turbid locust
#

boys

fringe vigil
#

tf i return it for free?

turbid locust
#

how we doing

young void
#

They replace it typically and jorjs 4090 melted his cable, im doin hbu?

echo hedge
pure garnet
#

i’m chilling mac how are you

gilded quail
fringe vigil
# gilded quail

sir, if i tell them about the melted cnnector and discoloration thery wont, kyoko said dont mention that

echo hedge
#

@fringe vigil how old is the car

warped mountain
# fringe vigil it will cause fire according to kordell lol

I did not say it WILL cause a fire I said it COULD cause a fire and that's a risk that you're taking by doing that....
so if you understand that risk and you accept that risk I mean that's completely up to you you're going to do whatever you want to do..
just understand that actions have consequences.

echo hedge
#

card*

fringe vigil
pure garnet
#

we got like 30 different extremes here

#

an rma isn’t a return, it’s a repair request, just open one

steel stream
echo hedge
young void
#

Worst case they say nahh

gilded quail
#

You're being stubborn. You won't know the answer unless you do the work on your end. There's no point in risking your 4090 getting worse if it's acceptable for repair/replacement now.

frank zealot
turbid locust
#

I’m drinking fourloko and building a NAS

pure garnet
#

ideal combo

echo hedge
gilded quail
young void
steel stream
young void
#

Acdc blasting or?

#

Oyyy

turbid locust
frank zealot
turbid locust
#

I saw them at Walmart and was like YOOOOO

young void
#

Shmammmered

gilded quail
turbid locust
#

Is a 7700x overkill for a NAS? yes. Is it funny to banish this garbage chip to a NAS? Yes.

frank zealot
echo hedge
#

"It does not cover:

Damage due to misuse, accident, modification, installation or software issues."

#

that is from nvidia, jorjs card could be cooked due to misuse, meaning it is not eligble fo rma

gilded quail
#

I've seen cases of rma replacement due to cable fires

warped mountain
gilded quail
#

So point being you won't know unless you try

echo hedge
turbid locust
#

jorj is one of the beings of all time

brave panther
warped mountain
#

All you can do is ask, again the worst they can say is no... I would be honest with them though .. because if you're not and then they go oh we're not fixing this you have to pay for both directions shipping.

They aren't just swapping cards without looking at them

frank zealot
gilded quail
#

Ts giving me brain damage. Gonna go be productive.

warped mountain
young void
#

He's just alittle fish in a big pond ya know... the ocean

echo hedge
#

All it takes is a quick google search to discover they dont offer a repair service at a fee, if its not covered by rma, they return the card as is

warped mountain
#

Yoo WTF.. even with me telling it not to go to sleep and setting the brightness to only 50% the screen still dims on its own to minimum brightness... And then it still turned off its screen just now 🫤

SOOO even when you tell Apple that you would like the option to do what they gave you... They just go no we're not doing that??? WTF!

young void
#

Theres no shawtyyys at nvidia ~jorj

echo hedge
#

i say jorj should take the 4090 for a bath to stop it from setting on fire

echo hedge
#

just wrap the pc in a fire blanket

brave panther
#

submerge the pc in transformer oil

fringe vigil
#

okay so be honest tell them everything or lie

echo hedge
fringe vigil
echo hedge
#

ur not covered by rma

turbid locust
#

DeepCool AK620 Mounting system vs Questionably Successful 22 y/o man drinking Four Loko. Who wins?

fringe vigil
echo hedge
#

so either take it to a local repair shop, or jut use another cabke

young void
echo hedge
#

ORRRR, sell it on fb market place as working

warped mountain
#

I'm getting WRECKED by mosquito rn 🫤

echo hedge
#

and then buy a new card

warped mountain
#

Because "open until 8" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone apparently...

fringe vigil
brittle mortar
turbid locust
proven cairn
#

Is deepcool still sanctioned?

rotund rock
#

i might get an oled monitor soon to replace this

steel stream
echo hedge
#

@brittle mortar u wanted an upgrade, u wanna buy a working 4090?

brittle mortar
echo hedge
#

i heard that @fringe vigil has a pretty good deal going

#

comes with a free cable

brittle mortar
fringe vigil
brave panther
#

when i have a rma i have my sister deliver it to the shop i bought it from
works every time KEKW (i had shit rma-d that had lightning damage)

topaz veldt
#

I had to.

young void
#

Yooo whats the red/pink snailss

fringe vigil
#

worm dm

echo hedge
warped mountain
warped mountain
brittle mortar
amber girder
#

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/memory/ddr4-desktop-memory/106591-kf432c16bb2ak2-16

Is this good ram chat? I’m thinking of getting this kit x2 to have 32gb (4x8) but advertised speed states 3200mhz yet details say overclocking from 2666MT/s

Kingston FURY BEAST RGB Black 16GB (2x8GB) PC4-25600 (3200MHz) DDR4, CL 16-18-18, 1.35V, Dual Channel Kit, Non-ECC, Intel XMP 2.0 at Scorptec.com.au, the online Gaming PC, server computer and technology experts. Fast delivery to Australia.

echo hedge
brittle mortar
warped mountain
brittle mortar
#

Why is it going back to the 50s.

#

Go away summer.

brittle mortar
amber girder
brittle mortar
#

And by January well,

proven cairn
brittle mortar
#

Probably -10

warped mountain
#

Not too bad, considering max Brightness

proven cairn
#

Js get ddr5 bro

brittle mortar
amber girder
#

Oh just get a new mobo + cpu too 😓😓

topaz veldt
proven cairn
#

Micron needs to lock in and make some DDR4

warped mountain
proven cairn
#

Prices are crazy fr

steel stream
amber girder
#

I obviously didn’t anticipate ramaggedon but I just upgraded to a r7 5700x3d lmfao

brave panther
amber girder
#

I’m neva gonna let you go am4

winged sonnet
#

I need the 5070ti 😫😫

brittle mortar
#

Im focused on get new cpu

amber girder
#

I also just bought a 4080 couple months ago 😓😓 should I have opted for a 50 series? I purposefully went old gen…

brave panther
topaz veldt
winged sonnet
brittle mortar
winged sonnet
#

9800 x3d *

brittle mortar
amber girder
#

First time in my life disassembling and repasting a gpu and I decided to practice with the 4080 😅

steel stream
#

5070 Ti is aight

winged sonnet
#

Now I need to stack for the gpu it’s actually a solid 50 series

proven cairn
turbid locust
winged sonnet
amber girder
fringe vigil
#

crazy

amber girder
#

Thankfully I found a disassembly vid of my exact card

brittle mortar
warped mountain
#

Ugh these mosquitoes!

amber girder
turbid locust
brittle mortar
steel stream
turbid locust
#

most cards can be repasted by removing like 6 screws

warped mountain
edgy laurel
turbid locust
steel stream
#

ok not bad

#

wait no that's not great

proven cairn
#

Buy barracuda

steel stream
#

i got 12TB for like 90 last year

turbid locust
#

new?

brittle mortar
steel stream
#

refurb

turbid locust
#

yeah these are new lol

proven cairn
#

Barracuda is the worst model right?

fringe vigil
#

5090 ordered

brittle mortar
fringe vigil
#

tuf

brittle mortar
#

Jealous

proven cairn
#

Tuf is short for The Ultimate Force, Asus is cringe

steel stream
pallid marsh
#

And my $610 9070xt is coming on Wednesday

proven cairn
#

What model? The Pulse?

pallid marsh
#

The ASRock challanger

turbid locust
proven cairn
#

Ok

steel stream
# turbid locust If I decide to go bigger then I’ll probably go refurb 8TB’s but <:pepoJuice:6700...
steel stream
edgy laurel
warped mountain
#

Download on the go setup .... What will over heat SSD, or MBP?

brittle mortar
#

my Hdd i got 16tb,2tb

fringe vigil
#

nvidia can kiss my ahh

steel stream
turbid locust
#

lol we ball

steel stream
#

maybe i purchase a little drive or two or three

warped mountain
warped mountain
turbid locust
#

I’m not sure how Truenas Scale handles adding drives later but we ball

brittle mortar
warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

3090 was the best gpu i ever owned

steel stream
brittle mortar
#

For me,best was 3090 Ti

turbid locust
steel stream
#

anyways I am balling

turbid locust
#

lol bro

brittle mortar
#

Windows 7

steel stream
turbid locust
#

hmmmm

steel stream
warped mountain
#

Damn, they locked everything and I have to pee... Do I drive to the circle k and then come back?

#

I need their wifi, I have to redownload everything from yesterday because there was corrupted bits in it.....

steel stream
#

whtwhos wifi do you need?

warped mountain
turbid locust
steel stream
#

yah

warped mountain
#

It says they were supposed to be open till 8:00 but then they close the library at 4:00 and normally I just sit in the foyer until closing time.. open campus police came by locked everything and said no you got to go and asked what can I still be on campus and he's like I don't really care but because they locked everything... That's why I'm getting destroyed by mosquitoes

#

Ofc when I looked online it was like oh yeah the campus hours are 2:00 to 8:00 but then apparently in the library is only supposed to open 2 to 4:00 but apparently it was open like at 10:00 a.m. this morning so I could have came this morning but I didn't know 🫤

wise bear
#

@hoary hatch is the sunset pink/orange af for you too rn?

fringe vigil
#

nvidia are the gift that keeps on giving tf u mean

warped mountain
#

Technically there is one spot in the back parking lot where the Wi-Fi extends out because one of the ap is set wrong, but it's 100mbps service .. and i have 126GB to go 😭

warped mountain
fringe vigil
hoary hatch
warped mountain
#

Well if you include steam it's like 500GB to go tonight

warped mountain
fringe vigil
#

what should i put for subject

hoary hatch
#

Okay it's particularly colorful right now but I've seen many a colorful sunset in HB

warped mountain
#

Does random OLED need more than a 5050?

young void
#

1080 no, for 4k probs not sure tbh

wise bear
warped mountain
#

(3200 x 2000)

wise bear
#

deadass might move

fringe vigil
#

is your laptop i5 kordell hp flip book]

warped mountain
#

With this CPU
Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 285H Processor (E-cores up to 4.50 GHz, P-cores up to 5.40 GHz with Turbo Boost, 16 Cores, 16 Threads, 24 MB Cache)

warped mountain
warped mountain
hoary hatch
#

Maybe that's been canned

#

Mother fucker it's already under construction

wise bear
young void
#

Hillsboro also seems to be in the maybe plans for next 5-10 years

hoary hatch
#

Part of me wants Intel to implode ever more for better housing prices

wise bear
#

my cap's 2500/mo and my options run aplenty

hoary hatch
#

I'm struggling to find something suitable in that price range

#

*for 3 people who have acquired years worth of crap

#

Although a shorter house would have less space wasted on stairs and hallways

wise bear
#

I might bump it to 3k/mo because there's some REALLY nice places

fringe vigil
wise bear
#

I'm good with a townhouse apartment or a condo or w/e honestly

hoary hatch
#

We're at $3100/month? Planning to move in Q1

#

Uhh it's like 30XX close to 3100

warped mountain
#

Hmm 64 GB? I don't think that's necessary.. everything here is like a force upgrade, so it forces the GPU changes

young void
#

Im happy in my spot for now but bigger space and house is definitely in the need with 7 people

hoary hatch
#

No we might be more like $3200 hmm

#

Anyways, I'd love to have moved now but people be traveling through January so it just wasn't feasible

warped mountain
hoary hatch
#

I'm actually hoping to increase my commute

#

I wouldn't mind up to 30 minutes

fringe vigil
wise bear
fringe vigil
hoary hatch
warped mountain
# hoary hatch We're at $3100/month? Planning to move in Q1

Nice, net $7,200, so my budget is $1,800. Leaves 360 for utilities before hitting that 30% cap.

Can't wait until 2030 when I graduate and that number starts to grow. It's pretty hard out here to rent for 1800 if I'm honest. You can do 250 square foot micro studio for like $1,150 after fees. One bedroom 450 sqft looking at $1,600. It's funny you get so much better value though if you can afford $2500 because the luxury rentals can't move up in price 🤣.

hoary hatch
#

Oh right next to the Columbia employee store, nice

brisk jolt
warped mountain
wise bear
fringe vigil
hoary hatch
wise bear
#

WITH a garage

hoary hatch
#

(it's like $30 is fine)

warped mountain
# wise bear 👀 https://www.zillow.com/apartments/portland-or/renew-at-cornell/5XjL5N/

That is such a good price for the square footage! Pure were like $3 per square foot. If you want one that has like a connection to the public transport light rail it's $4 a square foot... Sigh. I miss $12 a square foot was the norm. You can still get it but you have to move into a two bedroom and the way it works here is all roommates have to qualify for full rent so unless you're bringing in low qualify you at 7500 a month, each roommate, or they won't allow you to rent it.

leaden dawn
fringe vigil
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this mf

brisk jolt
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more than 1

warped mountain
# wise bear $2500/mo in portlandia

I'll probably be like 3,000 here. Maybe $3,500.

They run into issues once they hit 3,000 though because of mortgage for an average home here is $3,400 a month so...

wise bear
leaden dawn
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Gotta love linear script based support. Watch them transfer and ask you again

turbid locust
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updating board bios for NAS cause it was a July 2024 bios DANger

fringe vigil
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wtf do i say

warped mountain
warped mountain
wise bear
steel stream
turbid locust
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I just want this to be solid

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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I am going to enable PBO but only because I want to power limit it

warped mountain
turbid locust
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unless I can just turn on eco mode

indigo walrus
# wise bear $2500/mo in portlandia

So like... $3200 CAD 😬🤮 tis an okay layout though. Only thing I would change is extend the bathroom on the right into where the washer / dryer are, moving them plus the hot water tank into a close directly to the right of the entry hallway, then turn the clothes closet into a small office / den. We have similar layouts that waste space up here. Not everyone wants a walk in closet. They're a huge waste of space.

hoary hatch
wise bear
leaden dawn
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I wonder how old my nas boards bios is

warped mountain
wise bear
hoary hatch
turbid locust
hoary hatch
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Guest room

wise bear
hoary hatch
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I'd like to buy something in 2027 or 2028

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Mac how middle of nowhere are you

wise bear
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I'll sell my podunk trailer and relocate

fringe vigil
turbid locust
warped mountain
wise bear
turbid locust
leaden dawn
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Your kinda people OMEGALUL

wise bear
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jfc mac 😂

turbid locust
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I try my best man

wise bear
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you try a little too hard

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you don't have to be so pc lmao

warped mountain
# hoary hatch I'd like to buy something in 2027 or 2028

My goal is 2032 at the latest, gives me just enough time to pay the mortgage off, well it'll be paid off 5 years after the technical retirement age.

But I'm going to set it up on the 30 but I'll pay it like a 15. That's way it's paid off 10 years before retirement

edgy laurel
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nice, mac

turbid locust
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Guilty stfu SteveNotLikeThis

steel stream
wise bear
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"you kind of people"

turbid locust
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IM THREE FOURLOCOS IN

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you have to forgive me

leaden dawn
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I'm still giggling that was great

steel stream
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wait you've had 3???