tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

i need a 47000 nit display with dolby vision to sit in lecture and browse reddit

[warped mountain]

Hey now! It works fine but it's plugged in as long as you make sure the charger is in an area where it can breathe and not overheat, I actually love gaming on it it's amazing!

[wise bear]

usb 4 exists, we already went over the egpu thing, and tb5 you're not gonna fuckin' saturate.

[warped mountain]

They're on blowout sale right now at all the retailers for like half off!

[proven cairn]

Ok

I lk want one for the tb5

[wise bear]

you're not "overloading' or saturating anything to it's "full potential", you're literally just babbling about your inability to understand laptops and just want to spend money on the most expensive thing with the bigest numbers because you think it's going to be the bee's knees

[warped mountain]

It's some junk for this stupid CIS class! All I have to do is survive this semester and I should never have a problem again because I'm just going to use Google docs for everything cuz it just makes more sense!

[pure garnet]

yeah excel 101 isn’t gonna notice

[merry stirrup]

if youre on am5 yes

[warped mountain]

Battery life is very low! And you know it gets super hot and that was my biggest complaint about the G14 I just kind of dealt with it!

I need 10 hours actually unplugged from the walk with constant use. People list YouTube playback as 8 hours on the g14 5070ti at 200 nits.

And it's $2,400

The MBP M4 pro is $1,800.

Literally

[wise bear]

doubt.

[brittle trellis]

I highly doubt you're away from a power source for 10 hours

[proven cairn]

Bro call the cops 😭

[vale cosmos]

and you didn't like report them??

[brittle trellis]

Every educational facility I've ever been in has had plugs fucking everywhere

[warped mountain]

I used external 3.2 gen 2 enclosure and put PCI Express 4 m.2's in them and I hit every single port with the largest crystal dismark I could and the SSD concurrently and watched it in Windows resource manager and I did not experience any bottlenecks.

[pure garnet]

i used to plug my g14 in to play magic arena during downtime

most powerful game that 4050 ever saw

[warped mountain]

No it's for watching movies.

[vale cosmos]

you haven't seen my uni😭 why are the only outlets 30 feet in the air in one of my lecture halls

[merry stirrup]

blind them with the power of the sun

[pure garnet]

i drive a low car and every night i’m tempted to buy one of those giant flashlights and mount it in the trunk of my car

[brittle trellis]

If they built a lecture hall without plugs every couple meters under the seats they need to be shot

[warped mountain]

Is that in the 1500 nit sustained display mode?

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[wise bear]

plugs at EVERY DESK

[vale cosmos]

oops i don't have a single lecture hall with that this semester

[pure garnet]

okay but like realistically even if you can charge during a lunch break once a day you’d be fine with most laptops

you don’t need to plug it in every second unless you got the big chungus laptop

[warped mountain]

Cool cool. Especially with the tiny internal SSD I move a lot of data really quickly.

I know right now I have to be careful with my thunderbolt ports because I only have one controller for two ports and I can't actually utilize more than one port of bandwidth at a time.

I have like 20 TB of external M.2's that are enclosure limited 💀💀

[vale cosmos]

bold to assume i get a lunch break😭 (we fortunately have outlets on edge of rooms)

[pure garnet]

you make your schedule

[warped mountain]

Yes ... There are no damn outlets anywhere it's super annoying!

[vale cosmos]

hard disagree when they only have 1 section of the courses i need

[brittle trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[warped mountain]

If your landlord does it it's conversion and it can only be brought in civil court you are not allowed to charge them with theft they could literally take your car and it's still under the same classification you cannot charge them with Grand theft Auto...

To say that I'm displeased as a massive understatement I'm currently going through a nasty legal battle over it

(she stole over $20,000 of my stuff! literally anything that had resale value she just went in and took because she got mad when I told her that she was required by law to give a 30 day notice and the police told her the same thing when she started driving my shit out the door and I called them on her.)

[gentle gale]

your landlord stole your g14?

and you didn't report it to someone

[warped mountain]

They're only on the outside edges and we're always in the inside and then at my desk which is 7 hours for work there's no plugs. Well technically there's a plug but I need like an extension cord to get to it because it's all the way like 10 ft behind me. And then it's a "trip hazard" 💀💀💀

[gentle gale]

like uh the cops or some shit

[vale cosmos]

um wat. your landlord doesn't get the right to rob you because you rent from them??

[brittle trellis]

During my electrical course.... The one time a power plug was too far away and there were no unused extension cords I just went into one of the workshop rooms, grabbed one of each plug end and got a few metres of flexible cable and made one

[brittle trellis]

Sounds like a major fucking skill issue there bud

Grab some tape and stick it to the floor, slap them if they still call it a trip hazard

[lethal topaz]

the "ewaste" shelf grows

[vale cosmos]

i often have to leave my bag in a corner or sit at the end of a row of my laptop needs charging. i've been unluckily with rooms and had none with integrated outlets

[warped mountain]

The electric plugs in lecture that are built like that.. sometimes they'll have them.. but they'll all be disabled or broken... It's so dumb .. I literally hate it here

even in the library there's no plugs anywhere on any of the upper floors there's plugs along one single wall with the offices in the ground floor where they call the "tech bar" that's it...

[vale cosmos]

L university tbh

[shell void]

i see that youre hoarding antiquated hardware

[warped mountain]

I literally don't get a lunch break I go from 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. with no brakes it's really bad 😭

[lethal topaz]

thats actually the board on top of the box

[pure garnet]

call osha

[brittle trellis]

Sounds illegal

[vale cosmos]

if it's classes and not work it's perfectly legal

[gentle gale]

sounds like someone didn't schedule their classes properly

[warped mountain]

No it was reported to the cops, but because they're your landlord... it counts as "conversion" which is a civil matter ... you cannot place any criminal charges on your landlord when they take your stuff!

[brittle trellis]

sounds like a buncha BS

[vale cosmos]

that simply isn't true?!

[gentle gale]

do you live in like north korea or some shit lol

[warped mountain]

It's "conversion" not theft. I'm just as shocked as you were I even got a lawyer over it and they were like yeah I know that's how it works if they're your landlord you can't charge them with stuff when they take your belongings...

[brittle trellis]

Either you're not telling us certain details or you didn't explain it to the cops or lawyers very well

[gentle gale]

^

[warped mountain]

SAME.. or you're sitting on just a chair with no desk because it's the only plug in the whole room 💀

[warped mountain]

Welcome to work that starts 6 minutes after your classes end 💀

[brittle trellis]

That'd only be a situation if you owe them an unreasonable amount of rent

They can't just take your things because you happen to pay to live in their house

[vale cosmos]

update your availability 😭

[vestal granite]

yeah landlords aren't even allowed in the house without notice pretty sure

[vale cosmos]

if you work anywhere remotely near a university your manager should understand how school works

[warped mountain]

No no it is!

I literally had to file a lawsuit I literally showed the cops the video. I said look this is where it was and we just came back here's the video of us walking back into this house and it's gone!

(We knew she was pissed and acting reckless, she literally threatened a dangerous felon that was out on parole was going to move in and straight have told me "I hope that you can sleep well at night cuz I told you no guns are allowed here")

and the PD were like .. we can't place any charges or you have to go through civil court.. but we will include the concern in our report...

[vale cosmos]

that varies from place to place and lease terms afaik

[vestal granite]

I don't think it varies

[brittle trellis]

Difference between renting a whole house and renting part of one

[warped mountain]

No explained everything to the cop who had been out there earlier to tell her that she was not allowed to just pull my shit out of the house and that she needed to follow the proper regulations of the city if she wanted to provide me with a 30-day notice she needed to do so.

That pissed her off and she went absolutely ballistic and I was like I got to get out of here because she's already starting to lie about things and I'm not trying to play this game with her..

It's been all day with my buddy had him come back to the house with me had him take a video because I was like scared for my life and everything walked through the house found a bunch of stuff messed up and my shit was gone.

Called the cops and they literally said well because it's your landlord we cannot charge them with that they can only be charged with conversion of property and conversion is a civil matter..

[warped mountain]

Even if you owe them rent they're still not allowed to take your property it still counts as an illegal conversion.

[vale cosmos]

conversion is when they legally acquire it and then use it for the wrong purpose or don't return it not just stealing straight up

[wise bear]

theft is a felony when it exceeds $500 you dingus

[warped mountain]

Correct it's conversion which has penalties in fines and they'll see the responsible to pay you the market value of the assets that they stole...

But you cannot criminally charge them with theft. Even if you have literally like a ring camera in the room clearly showing that they stole your shit you still can't charge them with theft

It's dumb as fuck

Maybe it's just an AZ thing

[dawn plover]

wtf is "conversion"?

[wise bear]

that's.. not a thing anywhere

[vestal granite]

if u owe them rent they can't just yoink shit, they would have to make a civil case no?

[vale cosmos]

most states have their own laws about it

[warped mountain]

Nope, but if they break that ... again it counts as a civil issue you can call the cops all you want they can't do anything.

Which is exactly what she did she said she would be there Tuesday knowing that I'd be at school Monday and I was like hold on let me get this paperwork to serve her explaining to her that she's required to give me 30 day notice

and you can imagine my shock when I pull up to Park and two seconds later she shows up to the house and starts going through it and throwing my shit out...

[warped mountain]

Yeah if I want less hours. We close at 7

[hoary hatch]

I've never heard of it when I lived there

[vale cosmos]

it's still not conversion unless they legally had possession of it at one point??

[warped mountain]

I am AWARE. I went over it with the police and the police supervisor and the lawyers when it's your landlord it's conversion of ownership.

[vale cosmos]

that's your choice then 💀

[fringe vigil]

It booted but the screen is froze

[wise bear]

if there was no 24h notice of intent then it's illegal.

[fringe vigil]

Okay it’s fine now

[warped mountain]

It is here! I literally showed the police supervisor proof that it was there when I locked the door my entire GPS tracks for the entire day and proof when we arrived and I had a witness.

[wise bear]

wat

gps on what

[dawn plover]

ok so conversion is when someone borrows something and doesn't return it, for example

[gentle gale]

so theft?

[vale cosmos]

where they had legal possession at one point

[warped mountain]

48 hrs here, but again it's not a criminal offense it's a civil offense. I literally have a 28 page lawsuit against her from all of the crazy ass actions that she took because she said well I don't consider you a tennis so you're not protected by any of that...

And now she's trying to claim that I stole my own shit even though I in court provided the list under perjury of things that were missing that she owed me over a year ago and now she's trying to act like she's the victim...

She's also the same one that texted my ex spouse and told them that they better handle me or things will get ugly...

She also had her son text me and say "hey DJ's (her brother) is coming up with a bunch of guns to handle you so I hope that you're getting your stuff out otherwise it's going to get nasty"

Literally nothing I could do with the PD.. literally with texts!

[gentle gale]

so she threatened you damn

[dawn plover]

the difference (I think?) is that you legally gave it to them at first

[wise bear]

yeah I'm calling mega bullshit.

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-cha--leaving-gif-660543888862848498

[wise bear]

nice lie but threats with intent to harm with a deadly weapon is a crime in any state.

[warped mountain]

I didn't owe her shit! She literally was like oh I'm selling house beyond 7 days and I was like no you need to give a 38 notice and she literally said fuck you I don't have to because you're not a tenant..

Of course Arizona state law I am a tenant and we actually have a rental agreement..
She showed up on Monday to change the locks and pull all my shit out wasn't expecting me to be there then had a big ass meltdown then the cops told her no you're not allowed to do any of this and that's when she decided to steal all my shit to teach me a lesson.

"While he was already told to get out so he should have listened to me and done what I told him I don't know who the fuck he thinks he is it's my fucking house" verbatim to her co workers 💀💀

[raw zinc]

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz (3.60 GHz)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060
Operating System: Windows 11 64 Bit
BIOS Version: 2004
Motherboard: ROG Maximus XI Hero (WIFI)
32 GB of RAM

My PC just randomly freezes at random intervals, some days it doesnt even freeze, no bluescreen or anything its a complete freeze and my screen stays how it is until i restart it? Anyone know why this is happening? I had recently changed my graphics card from my 2070 to my 5060 as my 2070 fried, this is when it started happening again.

[warped mountain]

My Google GPS track and I was with my friend all day but I was literally proving that I did not show up and remove my own property and then call them.

[pure garnet]

use ddu and reinstall the gpu driver

[raw zinc]

okj

[gentle gale]

i feel like you should be speaking to your lawyer again

[wraith steeple]

I'll come back in a little bit later...

[raw zinc]

whats the issue anyways

is it like a corrupt driver

[wraith steeple]

[wise bear]

I don't even think the situation exists

[pure garnet]

that’s just my guess yeah

[wise bear]

like this is some schizo shit

[raw zinc]

do u think its when i changed to my 5060 the 2070 driver didnt erase or something

[warped mountain]

Nope, you want the lawsuit? I was shocked too I literally called the cop and said hey look she's already committed a crime and they're like no that's civil we can't press charges..

Then she lied and I said no I have a witness her there blatantly says that that didn't happen and I said I want her charged with ball statement to law enforcement they said we're not doing all that bullshit this is a civil matter y'all need to handle it like adults..

Bear in mine they told her that she was not allowed to do anything and then she went ahead and did it anyways .. and I called the cops back I was like hey look you literally told her she wasn't allowed to touch into my shit and she did it anyways what are you going to do about it like there's nothing we can do about it..

[pure garnet]

i think the 2070 broke the driver when it died

they use the same driver

ddu cleans everything out

[warped mountain]

Which is exactly why they phrased it as "DJ's coming up to handle you, and I guess he packed up his guns for some reason"

[raw zinc]

nothing missing to check right

[pure garnet]

yah defaults are fine

[wise bear]

you're changing the story now

[dawn plover]

it could be that there's leftovers of the old driver conflicting with the new one

[pure garnet]

clean and do not restart is fine

then you can reinstall driver from the website

[raw zinc]

yeah just through the geforce experience

[pure garnet]

if it lets you, otherwise https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/

[fringe vigil]

Kyoko should I continue with my ddu

[pure garnet]

i would yeah jorj

[fringe vigil]

Hmm

[pure garnet]

i’ve never went into safe mode to run it and i’ve never had issues

so if you can get to windows i’d just run it

[fringe vigil]

https://youtu.be/98DAgw1KcmI?si=W7s1PXZlDRBHeTYK

I’m following this

He goes into safe mode then runs ddu

This is what I tried yesterday but I was soft locked

[pure garnet]

safe mode is best practice but if you just reinstall the driver after windows won’t do anything weird

windows only checks for drivers when you hit check for update or when it detects new hardware

so if you just ddu in normal mode and then install the driver right away windows won’t do anything by itself

[fringe vigil]

I’ll reinstall the driver in safe mod then connect my gpu and see if it works / boots

I have to ddu in safe mode

[pure garnet]

you don’t have to run it in safe mode

i think the windows preview that fixed the safe mode usb issues has other problems

[fringe vigil]

Well I got to cus im locked out of normal mode

[raw zinc]

@pure garnetthanks

hopefully it works is there any way to test it out? like cause a freeze somehow

[pure garnet]

the only thing i could say to do is try and run furmark for a bit

but with a sporadic issue it’ll either just happen or not

[fringe vigil]

Does ddu remove all my files

like my folders and games

[pure garnet]

no it just clears out the gpu stuff

[fringe vigil]

Oh okay

[pure garnet]

you’ll lose your game shadercaches so you’ll have to recompile those next time you play

otherwise it’s just driver files

[fringe vigil]

Okay let me try ddu now

[warped mountain]

No I'm not

[fringe vigil]

I did ddu and now it’s booted normal mode but with my iGPU, should i now connect my GPU and install the drivers??

[warped mountain]

Any who... Back to PC's not crazy landlord

[pure garnet]

you can install the driver before swapping the cable if the cards installed

in fact that’s the order i’d do it in

[warped mountain]

Is the M4 Pro/ 24 worth $360 over m5 /16GB IF I decide to try a Mac (15 day return window)

[fringe vigil]

So can i install it using my igpu and then connect my GPU after

[warped mountain]

The fact that I literally had an anxiety attack of going through those messages to find those for you guys like it's so bad..

[pure garnet]

yeah

[hoary hatch]

Hard for us to decide for you

[fringe vigil]

Talking to me?

[hoary hatch]

We don't know your usage habits or requirements

[pure garnet]

yes

[warped mountain]

Well it'll be my first daily driver Mac since emac

The main reason why I'm taking a chance with it is because I need the battery life and I need the screen and I can't get it any other way

It'll be heavily used for content consumption I think that'll be the most stressful thing it'll go through

depending on its performance I might do some Adobe premiere stuff but it kind of really just depends I do still have the 14900 hx/40 90 available to me.

[hoary hatch]

Sounds like you're fine with the standard m5

[warped mountain]

I don't know if like watching lossless rips is like super stressful for a Mac or not but that's something else it will be doing

[hoary hatch]

Might do isn't the same as "I regularly spend 4 days a day in premiere", just do the M5

[warped mountain]

How will I feel about the CPU performance like when I'm running like 50 or 60 Chrome tabs? The reason why I locked in on the import Pro was because it matches the 14900 HX performance.

[fringe vigil]

Don’t work, it said no nvidia gpu detected the graphics driver not compatible with graphics hardware

[hoary hatch]

I don't have that kind of ADHD so can't tell you how 50 chrome tabs feels

[fringe vigil]

I guess i have to launch with gpu but i hope it booots

[pure garnet]

try moving one of the cables to the gpu rn

[hoary hatch]

If I have more than 6 tabs open I feel distracted and overwhelmed

[warped mountain]

Well I have like 12 and 1/2 TB of footage that needs edited for my YouTube channel... I couldn't do it on the Lenovo because it was during the time that they were having firmware issues so the system would just turn off

So I know that the M5 has a thermal throttle issue because of the single fan and it runs 15 watts more than the M4 with the same cooling solution is that going to become a factor if I start to like really pound on this machine or can Mac just not do things that are intensive enough for it to matter?

[hoary hatch]

But is your job being a YouTuber?

[fringe vigil]

Put cable in gpu and jsut a black screen

[hoary hatch]

For the love of God don't start pounding your machine

[warped mountain]

I know they sound like super loaded answers but I think it are the most blatant way that I can put it cuz I have absolutely no idea!

All I know is my experience with the m1 air 16 gig I was shook about how absolutely terrible the unit was from Apple

[pure garnet]

yeah i guess restart

[hoary hatch]

Tbh I think you're just looking for validation to spend more money
It's not my money so get whichever computer makes you more happy

[warped mountain]

Maybe one day if I can actually stick with editing shit I have really good views it's just I don't upload consistently enough for it to matter..

[pure garnet]

the m4 pro is going to use more power than the base m5 will

since it’s just more die

[hoary hatch]

I wanna more die

[fringe vigil]

It don’t boot, just black screen shit

[pure garnet]

like they’ll probably do similar battery numbers but the “thermal throttle issue” probably doesn’t exist in reality

[warped mountain]

Yeah I did see it would be a little bit less on the battery life... But I'm thinking if I'm doing video playback absolutely pounding on those GPU cores it may be better to just have more cores that can clock lower than to run the M5 cores at Max frequency max power consumption, no?

[pure garnet]

damn, did you try a new psu yet

[hoary hatch]

Yeah I'm highly sus on thermal throttling the base chip

This is an actively cooled machine

[fringe vigil]

It’s not psu surely?

[warped mountain]

I know but when I see a YouTuber that loves to brag about how awesome MacBooks are and why everybody should own them bring up a thermal throttle issue and saying that not only did he see it in synthetic he experienced it while using the device that made me pause..

[pure garnet]

it’s cheaper to try than a new gpu

but i’d try new psu, if same issue -> gpu rma

[hoary hatch]

Also do you make money from video editing? Even if it thermal throttles a little bit, does it actually matter?

[warped mountain]

I think the power envelope went up 30% with the exact same cooling solution.

[hoary hatch]

Yeah but it's still a tiny chip

[warped mountain]

No but if it starts to lug and chug like the m1 air did with four Chrome tabs that's going to be a problem for me..

[warped mountain]

The M4 and M5 have a single fan solution the M4 Pro uses slightly more power but has a dual fan dual heatsink solution

[hoary hatch]

My m1 air doesn't thermal throttle when web browsing

[pure garnet]

doesn’t sound like much to me

[fringe vigil]

What’s a good psu A tier

[hoary hatch]

AX1600i

[pure garnet]

rmx, pure power 12 m / 13 m, montech century

[warped mountain]

Okay so I think it's probably worth to save the $360 on the CPU side...

Does the memory thing matter I know they say Max only need like 4 gigs of RAM or less because they're more efficient but then I know like a bunch of people prove that completely wrong is going up from 16 to 24 worth the $360 up charge?

[fringe vigil]

400 dollar omg

[pure garnet]

you’re uk right

[fringe vigil]

Should i just get the rmx1000

I have the rmx850

[shell void]

itll still be more powerful than the M4 while throttling

[warped mountain]

Also how does a Mac experience CPU overload is it like Windows where things just start locking up and crashing?

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s an a+ platform so

great unit

[hoary hatch]

You could buy a used M3 Pro/Max

[pure garnet]

dude what are you doing on this laptop that you’re worried about overloading it

[hoary hatch]

If you're resource constrained the system just slows down

I'm not convinced you've ever used a computer

[warped mountain]

Yeah I see micro Center has some of those in stock are they any good I think the cheapest model they have was like 1250 for an M4 but then the M5 is 1400

[pure garnet]

aren’t you just using office and chrome

[hoary hatch]

Used

[warped mountain]

I just really don't want something that's just expensive and is just pretty and not useful that's my biggest like worry!

[warped mountain]

I don't buy used

[hoary hatch]

Well you're stuck between a rock and an overpriced place

[fringe vigil]

Even if i get a new psu i still can’t boot using my GPU so what’s the point

[hoary hatch]

Unfortunately, the solution to your problem is more E-cores.

[pure garnet]

the presumption is the gpu would work with the new psu

[warped mountain]

Like it with a PC I know exactly the kind of power that I need and what is and isn't acceptable.

Lunar lake is literally the first time that I've ever gone okay I can take less performance because the battery life makes it worthwhile.

[pure garnet]

if you doesn’t then you return the new psu and rma the gpu

[fringe vigil]

Rma?

[warped mountain]

I'm 3 mi from the micro Center! First time kind of nervous 👉👈

[pure garnet]

it’s a term for getting the card repaired from the manufacturer

[fringe vigil]

My warranty prob expired now

and nvidia will say 200 to fix

[pure garnet]

$200 for a $1600 gpu is a good deal tbh

[warped mountain]

Is there any good way on like the showroom floor to test out the performance differences do I just load up like four 4K YouTube streams hit play on all of them and see if it starts to Chug?

[fringe vigil]

How do i get Nvidia to fix it

[pure garnet]

is it a founders edition

[warped mountain]

Will the 2 fan be quieter?

[fringe vigil]

Yh

[warped mountain]

Sorry just like ahhh

you're paying so much and I don't know what they can and can't do like everything's so relative!

[hoary hatch]

Arcadia, camelback East village, South Scottsdale, or north tempe

[warped mountain]

Like I can look at synthetic benchmarks and compare them to Windows but I'm not running Windows so I don't know what the synthetic benchmark means maybe it's good maybe it's bad 😭

[warped mountain]

Loki thought there was only one...

[pure garnet]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/support/consumer/ open a ticket on this page

[hoary hatch]

I grew up there

[hoary hatch]

The microcenter is in my strip mall

[proven cairn]

You got drivers?

[fringe vigil]

Can you actually use a psu and then return it if you don’t need it

[hoary hatch]

Jorj what happened to your pc

[fringe vigil]

its fcked thats what

i cant boot into windows with my GPU

only from my igpu

can i speak to agents on nvidia and ask them for tech support??

[warped mountain]

And ofc my phone is on e from the drive over 💀💀

[pure garnet]

yeah

[hoary hatch]

Ah I'm back home

Bought several fish and dog collars from that Petco.
Spent half my childhood inside that Costco.

Lol the Conn's is still in business?

Parking there seems worse than when I left

The taco bell used to be top notch

[warped mountain]

Yes conns is still here. The micro Center went in into the spot next to them before the Burlington.

[hoary hatch]

The old sears

The sears has been gone a while

[warped mountain]

Ahh ... Damn it was vacant that long are you sure there's something else didn't move in in the meantime??

[hoary hatch]

Uhhhh

Maybe the Conns for the sears?

[warped mountain]

Sorry voice text has gotten conservatively worse as the Android generations have gone on...

[hoary hatch]

No, no other suite has been there

[warped mountain]

Sigh considerably

Micro to left

[fringe vigil]

my pc booted with gpu wooo

[warped mountain]

Omgzzz what is this place ... It's like a mini Fry's electronics....

Ohhhh noess they have Lenovo full line up on display 👀

I should have brought a chaperone.....

[hoary hatch]

Okay it was sears -> Conn's -> microcenter

[warped mountain]

The micro just opened 2 days ago

Omgzzz they have surface for buisness here 💀💀 even they know snapdragon isn't the pay

It ohhh... I like this form factor

This keyboard is 🗑️

[fringe vigil]

thye still making dell xps 13s lol

[warped mountain]

And the 14 and 16 ... And the 14 premium and 16 premium... All the same keyboard 🤮

Why does this feel like it's priced too low?

[fringe vigil]

dell xps are soo overpriced

which laptop you buying?

[pure garnet]

you’re looking at the plastitron 9000 and wondering why it’s cheap

[warped mountain]

Figuring it out rn 💀

[pure garnet]

it looks like you can snap it in half with one hand

[warped mountain]

Low key fuck with this OLED just dim at 400 nits

🥵🥵 this keyboard 🥵🥵

Crazy deal ... But 👀 she a BIG OL girl

And ofc I'm obsessed with the screen

[fringe vigil]

can build a pc better than that

for that price

[warped mountain]

$3.3k? Idk what is 5090m = 5070TI desktop with extra vRAM?

[fluid flame]

Would y'all say the 5080 is worth it

[warped mountain]

Z 13 .. I know myself too well 💀 immediately I was like 🤤🤤🤤

[fringe vigil]

13 is so small though

[warped mountain]

I want tiny

[fringe vigil]

why

[warped mountain]

Desk is too small for my 15.6

And it's my on the go setup

[fringe vigil]

i like big perosnally for laptops

[pure garnet]

no the 5070ti is $250 less for a 15% slower card

[warped mountain]

These have amazing hand feel if you walk with your laptop open

[south shuttle]

5080 lame

[warped mountain]

That 18 inch Acer 💀

[south shuttle]

1/2 of a 5090 if we overly generalize

[warped mountain]

I have to carry it all damn day 😭

[fringe vigil]

16 is perfect imo

[warped mountain]

Doesn't fit in LTT bag

Hmm I like this ... But I want a better screen, no idea the price.

[fringe vigil]

sounds like a ltt problem

[fluid flame]

I currently have a 9060xt so a upgrade to a 9070xt or 5070 ti wouldnt be worth the frames

[pure garnet]

which would also basically invalidate a 5080 then

[warped mountain]

This SLAPS ... If I could justify its price.

[fluid flame]

Oh dang I thought it was like 4090 performance tho

[pure garnet]

when overclocked if you’re lucky

[warped mountain]

Sigh ... Windows ...

[fluid flame]

Usually not that lucky and if I was going for overclocking I would rather get a 7900xtx

[pure garnet]

i would just keep the 9060 xt tbh

[fluid flame]

Yes I was thinking that with all the leaks

[pure garnet]

a 5070ti is a ~70% faster card in raster though then your current

[fluid flame]

But in my opinion that's the part that's making games barely playable

[pure garnet]

i’d just look at benches

[warped mountain]

The apple area was Soo hard to find 💀💀💀

[steel stream]

goat mentioned

[warped mountain]

Question
Is there a mode to get to 1500 nits in the Mac?

[steel stream]

1600 nights peak while outdoors

[warped mountain]

What is it indoors I have it at Max, is there maybe a extra brightness mode?

[steel stream]

1000 nits

[warped mountain]

The keys are like rattle-y is that just because it a demo or?

[steel stream]

🤷

[warped mountain]

Hmm it's almost like a resistance then fall.

Is that like normal on apple? Doesn't feel premium and smooth like Lenovo/HP?

Was it just the one I tried? Felt like short travel, probably because the initial resistance, then plummets to bottom

[candid kernel]

So I have 8 fans and 3 fans o. The radiator. How can I connect all of their rgb together and control fans speeds with software

[steel stream]

fan hub

[candid kernel]

I bought this but it only lets me control the fans through the controller

[pure garnet]

wiring rgb requires a phd gl

75 different standards

[steel stream]

idk much about RGB

[shell void]

macbook pro does 1000nits+ fullscreen in SDR if that's important to you, but itll slurp your battery

oh i just replied to an old message fire

[pure garnet]

it don't matter he'll be back in 45s

dudes going through a reality dating show to pick a laptop

[cloud vigil]

@shell void I have a uh huge fucking problem

[shell void]

idk how to use computers

[cloud vigil]

so uh some friends of mine were wondering how Passmark actually verifies results

[steel stream]

the laptopelorette

[cloud vigil]

so we tried running this t o see if it would actually go throughhttps://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+9700X3D+8-Core&id=6993

and uh. It did. and now >10 of the major computing outlets have written articles about the 9700X3D even though it isn't real

[shell void]

[cloud vigil]

genuinely unironically feeling like oppenheimer rn

[steel stream]

awesome lol

[shell void]

many such cases of media being dumb

[cloud vigil]

it's literally just a PBO'd 9700X that we modified /proc/cpuinfo on

the passmark shows it was at 5.8GHz 😭

[steel stream]

we do a little bit of trolling

maybe I should do that with intel lol

[cloud vigil]

submit a score from a 285K with 128MB of L3 cache 🤣

[warped mountain]

Why does dell think this is a premium key board, its SOOO mushy 💀

[warped mountain]

How long at Max brightness? 10 hrs of the rates 22?

[pure garnet]

spreading misinfo on accident is based

[warped mountain]

Any difference between these?? Microcenter literally doesn't know and neither do I

[cloud vigil]

even funnier, TPU says "rumours state it will have a 120W TDP and an MSRP of $450" which it says absolutely nowhere

[edgy laurel]

#journalism

[shell void]

as far as im aware there isnt a single reputable AMD leaker that makes public posts like Jayhihn does for Intel

[warped mountain]

Don't worry tried to pick up an Alienware 18 one handed... I pulled my wrist ...

[pure garnet]

peak

[steel stream]

MLID

[shell void]

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-otter-rubbing-eyes-tired-irritated-gif-16638234

[shell void]

if you can sift the malarkey out of what Tom says then yeah he does mention architecture codenames and such

[pure garnet]

michael needs an intel cpu in his daily so bad

[warped mountain]

These any good? They have really nice screens, unknown nits

[pure garnet]

i don't even think nits is a real word anymore

[shell void]

zzzzzz

[pure garnet]

if you get zen 6 over nova lake we're revoking your intel card

[warped mountain]

This store is DARKER than my area I usually use my devices in 💀💀

Hence nits obsession!

[shell void]

im waiting to see zen 5 refresh, arrow lake refresh, and bartlett lake A0 before i consider buying anything

i have no real incentive to buy anything right now

[pure garnet]

bartlett lake is not happening

[shell void]

i will not stand for this, ive had a 14900K and B580 for longer than anyone else in here

[pure garnet]

rumour so long i've blown up my am5 setup in the meantime

[steel stream]

stop usomg your laptop outside

[shell void]

hell my 10900 is still in use daily

[pure garnet]

your dad does NOT count

[steel stream]

is the b580 in use?

[pure garnet]

i got arc before it was cool

[shell void]

nah i deemed it redundant and boxed it back up because 14900k igpu is fine

[pure garnet]

a750 🔥 🔥 🔥 (been boxed for probably a year)

[shell void]

i can cope with 4K 60Hz for the couple of minutes that i spend interacting with that PC every now and then

otherwise it's just headless running jellyfin

[pure garnet]

does that pc even do anything

oh word

my 12900ks sits powered off until i do something on the arrowlake pc that requires me to swap pcs

[warped mountain]

My OFFICE 💀

[steel stream]

turn your damn lights down

[cloud vigil]

I'm gonna increase the generation of my 7800X3D and keep submitting new scores until games journalists actually learn. do you think they'll figure it out by the time they're seeing a Ryzen 11 12800X3D

[warped mountain]

I'm in love .... But I even i cant justify 😭

[pure garnet]

i swear problems are manufactured everytime

[graceful marten]

1520 dollars for a laptop?

I spent like 1100 dollars on a laptop and its useless for me now

[pure garnet]

that’s like standard ultrabook pricing

[burnt socket]

overpriced

[graceful marten]

I regret it SO MUCH

[shell void]

i still have this service running too xd

[graceful marten]

Please REALLY think about if you truly need a laptop or could do with a standalone pc

For the performance, pc is much cheaper

[edgy laurel]

What would those exact specs cost then, out of curiosity

[warped mountain]

On the go. Mini PC is cool but not practical

[graceful marten]

For the normal price, 2100 dollars you could get a really good pc

[edgy laurel]

overpriced =/= too expensive for me

[graceful marten]

Good gpu, cpu, ram, motherboard

[warped mountain]

Whyy can't I have this brightness over an entire laptop screen??

[pure garnet]

so for like 40% more

great selling point 👍

[graceful marten]

Yes but it was on sale

Thats why I said normal price

[edgy laurel]

also why has this guy been talking about laptops screens for what feels like 48 hours

[hoary hatch]

Not everyone is you?

[graceful marten]

thank fuck

[pure garnet]

it’s all about the nits guilty

[hoary hatch]

Different people have different needs holy shit

[pure garnet]

the nits!!!!

[edgy laurel]

you buy a macbook pro and you're done

[cloud vigil]

holy shit you're right wtf

[hoary hatch]

Heat, power

[graceful marten]

you dont have 500000 nits on your laptop screen buddy?

such L screen

[steel stream]

i can't take it anymore man

[cloud vigil]

this guy has been talking about laptops for the entire time that Mamdani has been mayor of NYC

[shell void]

@warped mountain thoughts? https://www.bestbuy.com/product/hp-omnibook-x-flip-copilot-pc-16-3k-oled-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-32gb-memory-2tb-ssd-eclipse-gray/JJGH2Y9TPC/sku/6634397

Ultra 9 288V, 16" 2880x1800 120Hz 2-in-1 touchscreen, 2TB SSD for $999

[graceful marten]

fr?

[edgy laurel]

tbh he was pre-blocked and I just unblocked him because i was tired of not knowing who everyones been talking to for 2 days now lol

[graceful marten]

ouch

[hoary hatch]

288V!!!

[shell void]

serviceable I/O

[hoary hatch]

But it's not panther lake

[graceful marten]

Atleast he got 2 USB A, mine only has one, truly fucking annoying may I add

[shell void]

something like this, but Panther Lake would be my ideal laptop

[hoary hatch]

Where are my nano sheet transistors, Michael?

[shell void]

you expect me to use cores that aren't powered from the backside???

[hoary hatch]

Why is the power delivery still via front side, Michael?

Smh

[shell void]

16 cpu cores and 12 gpu cores is absolutely essential bro

[hoary hatch]

Made in Arizona

[shell void]

this thing is pretty sexy tho

[warped mountain]

I'm literally buying rn 💀💀

[steel stream]

the nits the nits

[edgy laurel]

ok jorj

[hoary hatch]

@warped mountain you can only buy laptops with compute silicon made within 30 miles of your house

[pure garnet]

you’re so right it is

how many nits is the c5?

[shell void]

ive barely seen your journey, but that HP OmniBook seems like a good pick if you dont wanna spend $1500 on a Thinkpad

[hoary hatch]

You bought?!

[shell void]

naw

[burnt socket]

the arc graphics is what makes it overpriced

[hoary hatch]

Stupid finned transistors

[shell void]

finfet in the big 2025 💀

[steel stream]

you put some respect on arc graphics

[edgy laurel]

still not making any sense. whats your number

[warped mountain]

But if I can't use Mac, now you have to sell for 40% of what u paid 💀😭

[warped mountain]

Buttt it would be PERFECT 😭😭

[fringe vigil]

im scared to load a game to see if i actually fixed my pc when ddu

[edgy laurel]

fullscreen HDR? like 220ish

[pure garnet]

220 sounds wrong

[shell void]

no it's very low

42" C-series is super dim compared to the larger flagship OLED models, and in comparison to phones/tablets/laptops

[pure garnet]

isn’t that dimmer than my tcl

[shell void]

yeah

[fringe vigil]

not my birght c5

[steel stream]

even G5 only does 400 full frame

[warped mountain]

I went ultra for two more premium design, check for refurbished, these go to $550 OFTEN, new. You can get the. Non x brand new for $349 same chips.

[pure garnet]

is hdr even worth it on that then

[fringe vigil]

which one is that

[edgy laurel]

fullscreen doesn't matter

[shell void]

this is 55"+

42" C5 is only 150nits fullscreen in HDR lol

42 C2 is like 120

[pure garnet]

is a show not full screen hdr

[steel stream]

nah

unless you are watching smth like the matrix

[edgy laurel]

10% window it whats typically advertised

[pure garnet]

makes 0 sense to me but word then

[warped mountain]

At the Intel or the TSMC, NXP, or Motorola plant? Maybe the Ti plant... All within 30 miles 💀💀

[shell void]

10% window and less is what's most important in HDR

[pure garnet]

i watched dexter new blood with dv on

[steel stream]

this still isn't even fullscreen

[hoary hatch]

Microchip, onsemi

[hoary hatch]

But come on, Intel and TSMC

[edgy laurel]

you're trying to improve the range for elements on screen. those elements aren't always going to take up the whole screen in a shot. usually small %'s and those small images, specular highlights and the like, are what impress you and give the image that "real" look. You know it when you see it. @pure garnet

[hoary hatch]

All the others are child's play

[shell void]

if you pulled up this scene on your 65 G5 and 42 C4 side-by-side then you would be amused by how much brighter the G5 is

[warped mountain]

Microchip is here ... For now, on semi idk

[steel stream]

i have to return S90D before getting G5, otherwise I would do side by side comparison

[hoary hatch]

Onsemi might just be an office there

[shell void]

i thought you already ordered the G5

[topaz veldt]

oh boy

im stuffed

[hoary hatch]

I swear I applied for onsemi internships in tempe

[warped mountain]

Stole type C at micro center to charge my phone 💀💀

[steel stream]

comes monday now

[topaz veldt]

can i share my dinner pics

[steel stream]

I am on day like 82 out of 90 for costco return policy so will return on sunday

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[fringe vigil]

duh

[topaz veldt]

Started out with tuna tartare as promised

[edgy laurel]

Rtings numbers for G5 vs C4 are far more impressive than the actual test images. But specs don't always translate to the real world

[shell void]

🙏

[fringe vigil]

so my c5 is goated for HDR??

[steel stream]

yes it'll be good jorj

[shell void]

65 G5 fucking pummels 42 C4 into the dirt and it's not even remotely close, this isnt a matter of only nerds being able to see the difference

it's immediately obvious

[topaz veldt]

To everyones surprise here I went with filet tonight

[steel stream]

dynamic tone mapping about to go brrr

[edgy laurel]

1. these images don't show that.
2. no one has them side by side so its never as impressive as you think

[shell void]

i hope they put out a new 42" panel and don't just discontinue the size

[steel stream]

I'll do it 🫡

[edgy laurel]

Real world you buy, you use and what it is it is. You're not stacking up multiple next to eachotherin your living room

all of these are impressive on their own

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/javier-bardem-anton-got-it-think-about-it-ok-gif-17428218

[edgy laurel]

except for your crazy year

[steel stream]

looking good

[shell void]

it's not even a little bit close, it's a complete blow out

[steel stream]

i think i will be out of return window when the G6 comes out

[shell void]

it's like comparing a 9800X3D to a 3700X

[warped mountain]

Hold up ... I have an air 13 and a MBP 14 ... The screens look the same brightness.... Is that possible???

[shell void]

or maybe even a 2700X

[devout ridge]

almost like there’s diminishing returns after a certain brightness

because human vision is logarithmic

[hoary hatch]

How's your eyesight

[edgy laurel]

except it isn't. again, maybe if you stick them side by side but thats not realistic. You'd enjoy the content on both equally if you only had one.

[shell void]

yeah most people are going to be satisfied with 500nits for SDR in most indoor conditions

but 4000nits is the target for an outdoor display

[steel stream]

lol when I got the s90d I wish it got brighter lol

[shell void]

for fullscreen SDR

[warped mountain]

I'm POSITIVE. It's not as bright as the Mini LED 18 MSI either

[fringe vigil]

me on the news if i was working at rockstar and being the culprit for releasing the leaks of gta 6

me asf

[warped mountain]

How might is the Mac 24 inch... It's brighter than the pro

[edgy laurel]

you ain't in the bathroom crying over one and not the other. its just silly, thats all.

[shell void]

these images are meaningless

[edgy laurel]

real. world.

[shell void]

RTINGS' real scene test is outdated, and you can't use them in this context anyway

[fringe vigil]

u know c5 blows all them out the water

[edgy laurel]

jorj is so lost

[topaz veldt]

If ya'll haven't had a flaming chocolate sphere with bacardi 151 have you even lived?

[steel stream]

awesome man, i only had ice cream for desert lol #tech-chat-2 message

[shell void]

youll just have to wait for AKN to unbox his G5 and let you know that it's not even in the same stratosphere

ive seen them IRL

[steel stream]

with the images are you not just limited to your display capabilities and the camera it was captured on

i don't get taking pictures of a display to show it

[edgy laurel]

The point is not getting across

[shell void]

yeah that test footage is outdated, and the images cant be used in the context that spark is trying to use them in

idk when theyll be refreshing their real scene test, i remember talking to RTINGS Sam about it in the monitor discord

[shell void]

your point is cope and invalid

[steel stream]

i get your point, either or will make you pretty happy watching (c4 + s90d are both great viewing experiences for me)

[edgy laurel]

G5 is brighter, everyone knows that. that was never in contention. What matters is how much one over the other is going to make to your enjoyment if you only had one.

[pure garnet]

that was my assumption

[shell void]

if you have only ever seen the 42 C4 and will only ever see the 42 C4 then sure itll probably make you happy, especially if you haven't researched display tech

[edgy laurel]

Oh comon..

[shell void]

im happy with mine for the most part but i know it's nowhere near close to perfection

it's two major panel tech improvements behind the G5 and it's obvious in real life when youve seen both of them

[edgy laurel]

when next to eachother or recently viewing both

[warped mountain]

No FR why is this brighter than the MBP 14 ?? By ALOT

[steel stream]

because it's not battery powered

[pure garnet]

are we fr

[shell void]

it's like when you go from struggling to run a game at medium settings on your old gpu, and then when you upgrade youre able to max out the game with room to spare

i run the C4 at 100% brightness 24/7, but i would have to turn the G5 down quite a bit

[warped mountain]

Okay this fucker feels slow AF navigating pages and the computer is laggy.. is the M5 better than this?

It's NOT the Internet connection

[pure garnet]

dude at this point just buy whatever makes you happy

we have spent 2 days in a gauntlet of unreasonable expectations and insanity

[edgy laurel]

can you just summarize all these posts minus the pictures later or something

[pure garnet]

if you like the thinkpad buy the thinkpad

[warped mountain]

I'm looking at the spec is CANT be brighter .. maybe the MBP is in some kind of display mode

[shell void]

it feels laggy because it's a 60Hz panel

[pure garnet]

earlier apparently the m1 doesn't have enough memory bandwidth for chrome tabs

[steel stream]

pshhh as if I am going to not run 100% brightness on my g5

[warped mountain]

Okay I'll ask another way the M4 10 core is CONSIDERABLY slower than the new M5? Or no?

[shell void]

[steel stream]

that thing will sit in a dark room and sear my retinas

[pure garnet]

i don't even run 100% brightness on my low brightness tcl

i think i run like 65 or something

[shell void]

if youre doing work on the GPU or gaming then the M5 is a significant upgrade, but for basic tasks on the CPU you probably wont care

[warped mountain]

No like click and the system mini hangs ... Noticed the same thing on the M1 air I was trying to use .. obviously the m1 was worse than this M4 10 core

In safari

[warped mountain]

Okay based on today, I feel the M4 isn't snappy enough for my use with the system hangs occuring.

That's why I'm like asking

[shell void]

if you want the longest battery life, and a powerful CPU then a 16" MBP with the M4 Pro is the move, but that probably still costs more than you want to spend

and youd probably call the 16" MBP a brick

it's not comfortable to carry around with one hand if that's something you do

[shell void]

inshallah

[warped mountain]

Both 14 and 16 are VERY heavy for size. Considering the can't game at all. I'm after the screen and HOPEFULLY "it just works" experience

[warped mountain]

Yes all the time

[fringe vigil]

mashala

[shell void]

have you looked at Ryzen AI 9 HX370 laptops?

[warped mountain]

Are they any good?

[shell void]

it's what i would pick if i bought an AMD laptop

it has a much more powerful CPU than what's in Lunar Lake, and similar GPU performance

[warped mountain]

Wireless mechanical keyboard is something I never thought I would see

[warped mountain]

But much worse batter life no?

[shell void]

i wouldnt say "much worse", but yeah it won't last as long in menial tasks

[steel stream]

LNL my goat

[shell void]

wasnt your original use for this laptop just note taking in class, or am i remembering wrong? xd

you dont need a powerful cpu for that, but your messages more recently seem like you want one

anyway id go for U7 258V or U9 288V from Intel, and Ryzen HX370 from AMD if you don't want a Macbook

[warped mountain]

Yoo that's like 30% tho

[warped mountain]

Way more. I want an immersive HDR experience even in a bright area

Soo since it's Apple I need to buy a charger right?

[shell void]

macbooks come with chargers

[wraith steeple]

Oh! That's interesting. The socket 3 board I have is from 1999. This was probably targeted towards focus/businesses in industrial settings where legacy hardware was still the go-to for programs and such

[warped mountain]

Yummm I love fast storage! What's USB 4 practical limit?

[wraith steeple]

Especially since this was made when the Pentium IIIs were already out and available to the public at that point

[warped mountain]

10gbps is low key too slow 🫣 if I'm being honest. I love my t7's but damn they CHUG moving 500GB at a time

[shell void]

yeah if youre moving that much data on a regular basis then 10Gb is still snail mail

[warped mountain]

Yeah, I think usb4 is 40gbps? So 4x speed. And I know 10gbps is around 1GB/s reported in windows. So it caps at 4GB/s? Is that what apple has on it? Or are they faster? Do each pot have a dedicated controller? Or is the bandwidth shared?

[edgy laurel]

USB4 3x2 (what that drive supports) is ~4.8GB/s theoretical

and what MBP's support

[warped mountain]

My 9i claims independent TB controllers. But writing TB to TB drive is HALF what they can do solo 😭

[warped mountain]

Is the data rate the same for TB5 on apple?

[edgy laurel]

the fuck are you doing with this laptop that you need to be outside moving multi-gig files between external drives

[warped mountain]

This means they maybe independent controllers, but the link between them is the bottleneck.

[shell void]

thunderbolt 5 is 80Gbps duplex

it can also do 120Gbps one way

[warped mountain]

All my storage is on pcie M.2 in enclosures 😅😅. And I have 2 PCI4 drives in 3.2 gen 2 enclosure with fans 😁

[edgy laurel]

not to storage devices, they aren't asymmetric

[warped mountain]

It's the I need a NAS life, but full SSD NAS are still price prohibitive 🫤

[warped mountain]

So TB 4 and TB5 perform the same if we are talking storage? Is that correct?

[shell void]

no

[edgy laurel]

no, not in the MBP's case

[shell void]

where are you getting a usb80/tb5 compatible external drive anyway

[edgy laurel]

USB4 on the MBP is 40Gb's. USB4 Gen4 can do 80Gb/s but not on that laptop

[warped mountain]

Can you imagine how long it would take to disk write this?? Especially once it started thermal throttle?

[shell void]

oh apparently TB5 external ssd enclosures do exist, but theyre several hundred dollars

[steel stream]

why are you disk writing it

[warped mountain]

I use my t7 NON shield when I do BIG transfers and put a glass of ice water on top of it to keep it cool and at Max performance.

[steel stream]

what the fuck is your use case/ day to day life I can not comprehend this

[edgy laurel]

this combination of all these big needs but the limited knowledge about how any of it works or how to look it up is giving me a headache

all so confusing

[lethal topaz]

this guy is still here?

[devout ridge]

maybe he’s in the spending lots of money frivolously business

[lethal topaz]

gah damn bros committed

[warped mountain]

The shield overheats at 300GB 😭

[warped mountain]

Migrate 8 externals onto it

[edgy laurel]

if he told me he was the guy ingesting all the footage and editing it on a film shot in 12K on a remote island this might make sense

[warped mountain]

Yeah I know I'm not there ... Yet 😈

[graceful marten]

guys if buying a new intake fan, do I need to buy like a filter or mesh or something to stop dust getting in the case? Or can I just buy the fan, mount it and je good to go?

[edgy laurel]

Yes, and yes.

[hoary hatch]

Oh my God he keeps going

[shell void]

even without thermal throttling youre still going to see transfer speeds drop on consumer SSDs when sending large files because the pSLC caches get exhausted

[graceful marten]

hm

so filter yes? 👍

[edgy laurel]

both options are true... but most people's intakes have filters built in. or you just clean your pc like you're going to need to anyway even with a filter

[warped mountain]

So typical week day, honestly I watch movies at work and sign ppl in SUPER cush, and do my homework 3 days a week I'm working on video editing and stuff. But my 9i had the 112c bug and would just BAM off. So i stopped 4 months ago... I have over 15TB of footage to do... It's A LOT.

[edgy laurel]

I can't imagine a modern case requiring you to buy a standalone 120mm filter

[graceful marten]

Fair, someone said I had to use a filter but I wanted to ask some experts, i.e you guys

[shell void]

invest in an electric duster if you wanna keep your pc clean, it's impossible to prevent dust in a typical bedroom

theyre like $50

[graceful marten]

There is a place for a side intake, its a cheap fucking case 😛

[graceful marten]

I should do that yes

[steel stream]

as a fellow student this is insane I am sorry

[warped mountain]

It's all 4k 60 FPS footage 😅 biggest project so far was 6 concurrent streams per frame... The Lenovo was BEGGING for mercy, I had to edit via slide show 💀💀💀

[steel stream]

this is like one of the most niche usecases/set of requirements i've seen

[graceful marten]

Or maybe I dont even need an extra intake, It's directly by the gpu so I guess if you have a bigger gpu it would be needed?

[edgy laurel]

who knows. dunno what case, what GPU, how its performing now or really anything

[warped mountain]

Yeah, I learned that with my POS 8TB 860 QVO... That's why I only PRO now from Samsung. The T7 if you can keep her cool will do a full write at 975MB/s avg speed. I love her 😍

[edgy laurel]

thats on you, or the user to determine

[graceful marten]

true

[warped mountain]

I'm Soo tempted to buy an 8tb external HDD... But I know better 😅 I'll get annoy d by it taking 8 hrs to write.

[graceful marten]

I'll install the gpu, use it for a bit and if it runs warm I'll buy an intake fan and see if it helps, if not... a new case it is

[lethal topaz]

just make a nas and then write speeds arent an issue with zfs cache

[graceful marten]

buy an 8tb m.2 ssd 👍 cheap

[warped mountain]

Can I even saturate 14,100 wire speed on an internal SSD??

[graceful marten]

no clue

I was just joking

[warped mountain]

Over 40% full she slows down at 80% down to 80MB/s 🫤

[graceful marten]

wth

[warped mountain]

I need 48TB of SSD to do that

[lethal topaz]

you can get close on gen 5 m.2

[warped mountain]

That QVO for you!

[graceful marten]

thats horrible

I mean 80mb/s aint horrible, but that it slows down so much with so much storage still left

[hoary hatch]

Some people I feel like to create such a unique set of requirements that there can be no reasonable solution

[graceful marten]

okay

[warped mountain]

Lies I got SOOOO excited 😭

Better than when rockets were $3,200 tho!

[graceful marten]

holy shit

I found some for 250 dollars online

Or well I think they were 8tb, probably shit read speed

[lethal topaz]

you must have been at micro center for hours now why havent you bought what you need and left

[hoary hatch]

Life is brew-tiful

[warped mountain]

Debating putting a gen5 drive in a gen4 slot so it runs at protocol limit all the time 🤔 thoughts?

[hoary hatch]

Stupid

[graceful marten]

dude casually have 12tb of m.2 ssd

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[warped mountain]

Do we have gen 4 drives that run at limit continuously?

[topaz veldt]

ha - you should see my real storage

[hoary hatch]

Oh he wants optane

[warped mountain]

Won't gen 5 ran slower be more resistant to over heating on big writes?

[graceful marten]

it will just be really bad no?

[hoary hatch]

Michael, get this man some optane

[graceful marten]

👀 well show

[hoary hatch]

The PlayStation logo is worth $200 at least

[warped mountain]

I have like 35TB of m.2 laying around 💀💀💀

[graceful marten]

you can change the ssd in a ps5?

[graceful marten]

wtf

[hoary hatch]

It just has an m.2 slot for a second drive

[graceful marten]

Thats actually pretty dope

[topaz veldt]

Prob like 12-20TB of 980 Pro, 990 Pro, SK P41s

[graceful marten]

And let me guess, you HAVE to use their own playstation m.2 like the one on the pic?

[lethal topaz]

holy shit

[graceful marten]

why do I feel like this isnt an optimal way to storage m.2s?

[lethal topaz]

you running pcie raid soon?

[hoary hatch]

It has to meet a certain speed requirement (matching internal drive) to be usable for PS5 games. Slower drives are usable for PS4 games

[topaz veldt]

But here's 200TB of all-flash in my homelab

[hoary hatch]

It is recommended to get a gen 4 TLC drive with low profile heatsink

[graceful marten]

fair enough then, you could get away with a cheaper option for the same speed

[graceful marten]

brother, why?

[warped mountain]

I told YALL I need to build an SSD NAS ! Been like 2+ years it's been needed

[steel stream]

can I store my movie rips on thjere

[hoary hatch]

Yeah just needs to match the internal SSD at 5000 MB/s?

[graceful marten]

200tb, and the dude actually uses 95 of them, crazy

[topaz veldt]

I mean why not

[hoary hatch]

I forget the exact specs

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/yesss-kip-napoleon-dynamite-great-gif-14444905

[warped mountain]

My g14 had an 8tb drive in it btw back in 2023

[topaz veldt]

look at the memory capacity

[hoary hatch]

btw

[graceful marten]

Dope.

[warped mountain]

Perfection!

[graceful marten]

ohhh I read it wrong yes

I read the used as how much you have left

[shell void]

only 1TB of ram seems kinda low for you

[dusty lotus]

who is willing to spend their hard worked money on one of those 720hz asus monitors

[hoary hatch]

My G14 has 1tb Hynix p31 gold and it's fine

[dusty lotus]

720hz is not necessary

[hoary hatch]

Counterstrike people

[hoary hatch]

When has this hobby been about necessary

[graceful marten]

So why would you need that much ram and storage? Is it like mining?

[dusty lotus]

i could do fine with just 120

[hoary hatch]

Cool, other people exist tho

[warped mountain]

My 2023 was drive limited so got first a 4TB Samsung pro ... Then I threw a $1,800 sabernt Rocket into it

[shell void]

i would love 720Hz but 720p is a meme

i already don’t like 1440p because it’s super pixelated

[hoary hatch]

My 2020 G14 lives in a drawer

[warped mountain]

There is a REASON I was pissed it got stolen .. thank fully MOST of the drive was backed up

[hoary hatch]

Perfect for wizard101

[warped mountain]

Micro center refused to sell me the display Razer 14 .. so I spent $400 more and bought a MBP btw

[lethal topaz]

1440p 27in and 1080p 24in is about the same ppi

[shell void]

yeah they’re both super pixelated

[graceful marten]

Hey you can use my 1080p 34 inch tv if you want and I can take your 1440p monitor

fair trade

[hoary hatch]

Define refused?
Typically display models only sell once a product has been discontinued/dropped by the retailer and all other inventory has been depleted.

Like selling the display is "this is the last one and we're not getting anymore"

[warped mountain]

Just need a m.2 for the HP flip (1TB isn't enough) then heading home to ... Umm set up over hotspot... Lol the library is closed at the school 😭. And I canceled my home internet since I am NEVER actually home and they thought 3MBPS for $109 a month was .... Reasonable 😩

[shell void]

“hey i heard you don’t like stubbing your toe, so i figured i would drop a hammer on your toe instead”

[hoary hatch]

Also there may be agreements that certain displays are not to be resold

Especially items marked as non-inventory

[graceful marten]

lmao

[warped mountain]

Yeah they ran out of blade 14's I'm sure they will be getting more and just have it priced at $2,699 instead of the $1,479 it was today.

[graceful marten]

To me it is a fair trade, this tv is fucking dog water

[warped mountain]

Just poking them not upset with micro center.

[graceful marten]

I will switch it out for an msi monitor, 27 inch 1440p I believe

[warped mountain]

Tho this would be the BEST display one to get. It was setup 2 days ago fresh from Razer 😁. That's why I tried to pay the advertised price for it.

[lethal topaz]

anyone seen a tandem oled panel yet?

they sound quite good

[warped mountain]

Yes it's INSANE, at least the Yoga Pro. The Asus(?) one is rated at half brightness. I noted the difference... But it is ME ofc 💀💀💀

[steel stream]

i get one on monday (hopefully)

[lethal topaz]

ayo which one

the gaming monitor or a tv?

[warped mountain]

You can run double brightness same lifespan, or half brightness double lifespan is my understanding

Ohh they are available on gaming monitors too? Not just laptops?

[steel stream]

LG G5

[low sorrel]

HA

[warped mountain]

Which gaming monitors. Might pick one up

[lethal topaz]

fuck yeah

[steel stream]

i hate shipping

[warped mountain]

Don't TV have lag vs a monitor so like PC gaming is bad on them?

Or is that one special?

[steel stream]

nope

latency is great on OLED tvs

me and 3 others here use LG C series 42" OLEDs as pc monitors

[warped mountain]

The like image processor doesn't create lag?

[steel stream]

nope

they have a gaming mode too

[warped mountain]

Idk been a while since I tried. Last time it wasn't useable except for casual gaming

[steel stream]

this G5 will purely be for movies and stuff though

[warped mountain]

Hey so while I wait in the 65 person line 😅 to drop $2,700 does anyone else ear buds create a spot like is like a pimple at the top where they sit?

[steel stream]

gaming on OLED tvs is great

[steel stream]

ty jorj?

[warped mountain]

Dude in front of me is buying ARC limited edition for $250 💪💪💪 go TF off king.

[dry temple]

Planning on getting a "last years model" 65' oled after christmas. Its usualy a good deal

[edgy laurel]

last time this was a problem was like 6+ years ago.

Think you're a little out of date

[warped mountain]

Makes sense most tvs my friends own are 2016-2018 editions

[steel stream]

I would not recommend S90D, i find it to be an annoying TV to use, but it does look good

[dry temple]

Im looking at philips, beacuse ambilight

[warped mountain]

They buy ONLY during black Friday even though I tell them to check model numbers, they don't ....

[lethal topaz]

every year im like yes this oled is good enough for me. i will wait 1 year and buy it. then they come out with insane new innovations

[steel stream]

I got a real good deal on this G5 so I am pretty happy

[lethal topaz]

rn my only oled is an oddessy G8 i got off a recycle pallet

[dry temple]

I got a LG 5'1 suround sound system from 2001 i got second hand for 20$ original purchase price was closer to 2000.

[warped mountain]

I want HDR 1000 OLED SOOO bad! Not HDR black 1000, actually 1000+ nits on OLED

[steel stream]

I've got an LG C4 and an S90D

[dry temple]

So idgf from a sound perspective

[hoary hatch]

Option 1: 9070XT via bezos, delivery 4-8am tomorrow (5% cash back)
Option 2: 5070ti via best buy, pickup tonight (1.5% cash back)

[lethal topaz]

ngl i dont see the appeal of higher brightness, especially since tandem has such good light absorption

[steel stream]

NVIDIA

[steel stream]

makes the image more lifelike

[hoary hatch]

let me see your stock portfolio to verify you are unbiased

[lethal topaz]

really?

[steel stream]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

you're just going to regret buying that AMD card

no cool features

[steel stream]

you gold digger

[lethal topaz]

me when the competitor forgets driver updates are important

[hoary hatch]

RGB

[edgy laurel]

as I said

[steel stream]

having higher peak brightness really pushes the wow factor of day scenes and specular highlights

[hoary hatch]

if it was $749...

[dry temple]

I just orderd a asus tuf rx9070 xt oc

[warped mountain]

Microcenter is Fry's electronics but trendy and literally 1/4 the size.. want a big one!

[hoary hatch]

frys was garbage its final ~5 years

[dry temple]

Im not planing on running ai or rendering allot

[hoary hatch]

although Fry's theming was sick

never made it to the aztec frys

but i went to the golf one a lot

[lethal topaz]

i clearly have a lot to learn

[warped mountain]

W micro center for installing those mini cell towers so the network doesnt crumble

[steel stream]

sadly i can not do a shootout with my G5 and S90D but i can do one with my C4

[warped mountain]

Walmart could learn a thing or 2....

[lethal topaz]

what is a shootout?

[steel stream]

like a drag race, comparison between the two

[dry temple]

What keyboard should I get

[pallid marsh]

Race them in DV movies

[dry temple]

I just want a full size mechanical keyboardist at a good price. Bonus points if it looks cool

Or is laser the new meta

[steel stream]

i think the s90d might win

[hoary hatch]

hm

[steel stream]

team green sir

[hoary hatch]

I've never had a radeon

fire connector seems like a pain to cable manage

*because adapter

but so are multiple 8-pins so I guess it doesn't help me either way

[steel stream]

it's fine

[south shuttle]

i’m team i hope they all go bankrupt

[warped mountain]

Remember it's only going to burn once it's really not a big deal 😅

[steel stream]

woah woah woah man

[south shuttle]

i want to sell my 3090 for $99999

[steel stream]

maybe i think you can

[south shuttle]

first i have to make nvidia, amd and intelgo bankrupt

[steel stream]

not intel por favor

[south shuttle]

snakeoil

[hoary hatch]

I do have a 12V high fire rate native PSU in another system but that one isn't icue compatible

[south shuttle]

intel is intel never changes

[steel stream]

icue compatible PSU? WHat does that even do

[south shuttle]

privacy breach

you also pay for your data collection

[hoary hatch]

fan curve + active power monitoring

shows up in hwinfo too

[south shuttle]

i’ll love digital psu platforms if they don’t turn into a… telemetry, subscribtion or something worse service in 10 years

[warped mountain]

OMFG ... I spent 5 hrs at microcenter 💀💀💀

Good thing it's like 15 miles from my house .. I would never get anything done.

[south shuttle]

how

[steel stream]

ah

[warped mountain]

Idk well part of it was me like trying to decide shit and then I probably spent like 30 minutes charging my phone total

I did realize I'm definitely a OLED mini LED or extremely high-end IPS kind of guy

The only IPS I liked was the z13

Now for the 20-minute drive home...

I do have a theory but I want to test out when I get home because you guys are about to tease me so bad 😭😭

[south shuttle]

@steel stream how unhappy would you be if nvidia, amd and intelium go bankrupt

[pallid marsh]

Just learn macos man

[warped mountain]

I'm apprehensive but very excited to try Mac for the first time since literally I don't know whenever eMac was ... 2003?

[pallid marsh]

Mega nerd alert god damn

[steel stream]

if AMD went bye bye I would not give a shit

[pallid marsh]

But steam deck v2...

[hoary hatch]

it looks so bad to get playable framerates

[steel stream]

5070 ti time

[south shuttle]

amd just doing a reputation divided by 0 when they moved 6000 and vegas to maintenance drivers

[pure garnet]

i’ve had no issues with 4k with my 5070ti

[pure garnet]

eh vega is old

[hoary hatch]

vegas baby

[pallid marsh]

Then 5090 after you feel the let down of the 70ti

[pure garnet]

i’d get rdna1 too

but rdna 2 losing support this early is 💀

[south shuttle]

brand new laptops at retail had vega 7s two years ago

[hoary hatch]

do I spend an extra hundred bucks to get the fancy 5070ti

[pallid marsh]

Or wait for the refresh in a few months

[hoary hatch]

supposedly maybe cancelled

[steel stream]

yes

[hoary hatch]

or will be more expensive cause memory pricing

[pure garnet]

i like my trio but meh

[south shuttle]

if amd drops maintenance support for 6000 in less than two years from now on i’m not willing to purchase any more radeon for the next decade

[pure garnet]

it does look good vertical

[south shuttle]

and nvidia can get bankrupt as well

[pallid marsh]

Mother fucker it better not I'm holding out on the 18gb 5070 super

[pure garnet]

stop holding out for mid

[south shuttle]

it’s still not good

[pallid marsh]

Nah im waiting for a good value 1440p card

[south shuttle]

5070 super won’t be that

from the specs you can tell

[pure garnet]

the 5070ti

[south shuttle]

it’s just nvidia taking the vram from the 5070 and giving it back as a gift 1 year later

and some little but of cores

and seasoning

we won’t get a 4070 super this gen

def not a 3060 ti, 2060 super

absolutely not a pascal

[shell void]

5070Ti gud

[steel stream]

what happened to yours bud

[pure garnet]

it's in my pc

[south shuttle]

it only acceptabel

5090 and 5070 ti ok

the rest is nutrient deficiency

[pure garnet]

yapping for the love of the game

[brisk jolt]

i sold mine long ago

[warped mountain]

This cable means TB 5 right 😜😜

[hoary hatch]

fuck you all

im putting my best buy shoes on

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yas-wwe-scream-gif-17625417

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[warped mountain]

It's not THAT much smaller 🫤🤔 should I have gotten a 13??

[brisk jolt]

ah shit here we go again

[warped mountain]

And it's DOA 💀💀💀

😩WTF is my luck

It's just making noises and not booting 🤦

I may need tech support 👀

Let me try some things

[hoary hatch]

have you plugged it in

[warped mountain]

I have ... That's what worries me

It's making the same noises that my g752 did when the motherboard died 😬

Imma leave it plugged in for a bit. But I doubt it.

$200 I tax 😥 I miss being sales tax free state 🫤

[edgy laurel]

think of how many pictures of random stuff this guys phone has on it

the last two hours alone

in other news, til my GPU's fans take exactly 10W for 100% speed

[steel stream]

hmm good to know

how did you find that out

[sand schooner]

[warped mountain]

Yeah kingpin brought up an overclock stream that like you don't want to just max the fans out because it takes power budget away from the core and my mind was literally 🤯🤯🤯

[edgy laurel]

i don't have a good answer. sometimes you just do dumb shit for no reason and this time it was setting the fans to 100% just to see what it sounded like.

[sand schooner]

Chat i have a small problem on my laptop 😁

[edgy laurel]

Noted the board power was 30W at dead idle. Set them back to 0 and was back at the normal 20W idle

[sand schooner]

May i have help pls

[warped mountain]

Will this surprise me with how responsive it is?

The micro Center guy saw me getting annoyed with the big boy Mac and the lag and said no no don't buy an M5, buy a pro if that's annoying you.

[warped mountain]

I can try, but I need to go somewhere in a second, what's up

[warped mountain]

Oh no this is just what's on my phone my photos I showed you guys is like 590 gigs and then another 300 gigs to videos.

[graceful marten]

Thats on my phone too 😛

49000 pictures and 2800 videos

[sand schooner]

While playing beamng on a heavy map for some reason my gpu and cpu usage dont go over 40-50
And i have my laptop plugged in of course

[warped mountain]

I am not familiar with that game does it have a frame limiter? Can you screenshot your task manager CPU page

[graceful marten]

bottleneck

oh wait laptop

[warped mountain]

Well ya ... But I wanted to find out where and educate 💀

[graceful marten]

In the laptop 👍

[sand schooner]

Let me re open beamng real quick

[warped mountain]

Damn it was like 2003 👀

[warped mountain]

CPU please

[topaz veldt]

What lag lol

[sand schooner]

There you go good sir

[edgy laurel]

start PresentMon, show the overlay while in game

[sand schooner]

.

[edgy laurel]

we see it, nothing to see there apart from you being out of RAM

presentmon will show clockspeeds, temps, usage, and most importantly GPU Busy/Frametime

[warped mountain]

Right click the graph

[warped mountain]

Select logical

But I THINK I already know the actual issue

[warped mountain]

When I'm safari. You click the link the whole system freezes for a moment and then it finally starts movine