#tech-chat-2

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topaz veldt
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My sister had a 700 sq ft condo that was $1.8M

lone scarab
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was thinking of buying one but also thing of getting outta this country šŸ’”šŸ’”šŸ’”

whole coral
keen wigeon
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I may or may not have fried the receiver with hose because I saw a spider.

topaz veldt
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Mark I want like... an amp w/ a receiver built in that I can just stream to

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I want simple

merry stirrup
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good morning

keen wigeon
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same, thats all it was.

topaz veldt
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sup flops

topaz veldt
whole coral
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The bathroom wasn’t actually part of the renovation. The bathroom happened earlier

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But living room, kitchen, bedrooms and hallway yes it was renovated

topaz veldt
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I did a like 600 sq ft kitchen remodel

whole coral
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I feel like the kitchen is the most expensive part of the renovation

topaz veldt
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yeah it was not cheap

topaz veldt
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my prob is that these outdoor speaker systems are daisy chain

keen wigeon
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now it is the champagne of beers

whole coral
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Damnnn that’s nice

topaz veldt
keen wigeon
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ah, I really just need to sorta deal with being able to network it up and be able to run the projector off from it

topaz veldt
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Much to Guiltys hatred I put a tv over the fireplace

whole coral
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A fireplace lol

topaz veldt
keen wigeon
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damn son that's fancy pants.

topaz veldt
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but it'll work and apparently its RJ45 for wired lan so I am thinking of putting the amp/receiver thing in the server rack

whole coral
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The kitchen in this home. Small

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I like it though

lone scarab
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its fine

keen wigeon
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home assistant + face recognition : you return home sad faced and it plays bittersweet symphony. You return happy and it plays all I do is win

whole coral
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The tall ceiling is definitely a perk though

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Ceiling height is about 12 feet

topaz veldt
keen wigeon
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you also got them corn flakes

topaz veldt
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I am kind of over high ceilings

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everything fucking echoes

whole coral
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Actually max ceiling height is 14-15 feet

keen wigeon
whole coral
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Tall ceilings are nice for this though

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Skylights. Love it.

wise bear
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ugh I love those vaulted ceilings

keen wigeon
wise bear
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If I ever do my barn cabin I will demand vaulted ceilings and skylights

keen wigeon
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we have a giant ceiling in our entryway that goes way up

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I don't service the fire alarm up there. I call in sexy firemen and they do it for me

lone scarab
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😨

whole coral
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Vaulted ceilings for the win

topaz veldt
steel stream
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No TV over fireplace šŸ™

whole coral
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Damn nice tree

topaz veldt
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fake tree that year lol

whole coral
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Oh lmao

wise bear
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I'm more looking at that fireplace tbh

lone scarab
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gigantosaurus

wise bear
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is it gas or wood?

topaz veldt
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that one is wood

wise bear
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Yessss

whole coral
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Classic

topaz veldt
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have 2 wood and one gas

wise bear
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I want fireplaces to become more commonplace again, especially wood-burning ones

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I love chimneys on houses, it's such a funky little bit of character

lone scarab
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dont expect santa

wise bear
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I'm my own santa

lone scarab
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saton

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peynta

whole coral
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Ngl I thought the windows in this home were single pane but as I looked closer it’s double pane

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Makes sense though. Winters here can get pretty cold

lone scarab
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double pane perfecto

livid flame
whole coral
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Triple pane windows exist but more expensive

wise bear
wise bear
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them and their gross healthcare

livid flame
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You mean peintiwr

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The healthcare is fine

wise bear
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Nnnnno

livid flame
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If you want better just pay for it

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Same surgeons etc it’s just queue skipping and you can choose

whole coral
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Even double pane windows couldn’t prevent this

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It was like -9F (-23C) outside. Very cold

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Ice formed inside the home on the windows

wise bear
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dude the "pay for private" cost in the uk is more than most monthly bulk-coverage healthcare plans here

livid flame
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It’s double pane on wood. That’s the problem

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Oh it’s expensive

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I get small amounts of stuff from work. It’s not much but helps with some stuff

livid flame
wise bear
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I'll keep milking insurance until I have enough of my medication saved up to last a couple years at a minimum and then I'll consider hopping countries

whole coral
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I always feel like the cold air comes into my bedroom from that window even if it’s closed

livid flame
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Wood is a bitch to seal tbh and breakdown quicker

light wigeon
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guyz peyton is typing

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omfg

livid flame
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Yeah our bathroom and kitchen is wood, rest of the house plastic. You feel the difference

whole coral
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Yeah

wise bear
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also uk trans healthcare barely exists tbh, there's a several-years-long waitlist for anything under the NHS and any third-party clinics or GPs are ungodly expensive

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so.. uk healthcare is no bueno

whole coral
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Also this bedroom doesn’t get a lot of airflow anyways from the furnace so I have to leave the door open to get warm air inside this room

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Yeah it’s not great

oak vector
wise bear
whole coral
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This bedroom in the winter can be like 60F while the rest of the home is up near 70F

wise bear
oak vector
wise bear
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I bet at least half was anesthesia

oak vector
wise bear
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I think an uninsured top surgery in the states runs like.. idk, $10k in full probably?

oak vector
whole coral
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So glad I have health insurance from my mom

wise bear
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This is going to sound gross but like

whole coral
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She works in the healthcare industry

wise bear
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ftm top surgery is like scooping ice cream out of the bucket

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(not really but it's funny in my head)

oak vector
lone scarab
lone scarab
merry stirrup
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my overclocking friends arent awake yet :(

oak vector
lone scarab
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i overclock clock

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my clock is 2x faster

wise bear
merry stirrup
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what if you wanna be a guy with insane knockers tho

lone scarab
wise bear
pale grove
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then it would be mtf

merry stirrup
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i said

lone scarab
leaden dawn
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FtF+DLC

merry stirrup
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a guy. with huge knockers.

oak vector
lone scarab
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like

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onlyfat

lone scarab
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translucent

wise bear
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Wut

lone scarab
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salted or unsalted pistachio?

pale grove
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salted peanuts

lone scarab
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how many bricks does your house have

oak vector
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1

lone scarab
lone scarab
pale grove
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at least 27

lone scarab
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ok wtf

lone scarab
pale grove
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I live in an apartment

wise bear
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Salted almonds are pretty dope tbh

pale grove
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so many bricks

lone scarab
lone scarab
pale grove
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brick by brick

lone scarab
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😭 😭

wise bear
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You should try them tbh, there's tons of different flavors

lone scarab
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tbh

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will check

young void
merry stirrup
young void
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Just browsing and comparing with snails ill check the msi soon to

merry stirrup
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max allowed swing is +- 300mV

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my bad, its more than that

young void
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Seems alright

merry stirrup
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should be good. i've had weird things happen tho using like extensions on my 24 pin etc

raven citrus
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how can i undervolt the hell out of my 2060

young void
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It avgd out to 12 after few mins

merry stirrup
lone scarab
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"rain expected to stop soon"
it has been more than a week since it last rained

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what is my weather app upto bro

frank zealot
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Tier A 1200W - 140

merry stirrup
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gud

frank zealot
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that's a damned solid price

merry stirrup
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damn you can get some b650 boards with a shitty kit of ddr5 rn

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for 0 extra cost, payin 99$ for a new b650+16gb d5? not bad

frank zealot
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Aorus Elite V2 is only 136 after discount

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that's also solid for the price

merry stirrup
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yeah

frank zealot
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(no RAM tho)

merry stirrup
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the ram is shit but if you need the ram thats a good prtice on that 99$ thing

frank zealot
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shows 110 for me

merry stirrup
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oh prolly was that and im stupid

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also not bad

young void
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Also sorry for lack of screenies dont run disc on my pc often

wise bear
merry stirrup
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damn i idnt know things were broken

young void
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Luckily feeling better just alittle bit of congestion now and occasional pressure in my ears but feeling a tonnn betterbless

merry stirrup
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yuhh

young void
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The msi

frank zealot
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Chat, sell me on a direction to fuck around with:

PFSense vs OPNSense

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I'm looking at building a router out of spare parts from work, and deciding which platform to use

hoary hatch
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Probably opnsense but PFSense is fine so meh

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I use PFSense and never bothered testing out opnsense cause my PFSense setup "just works"

young void
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Any free titles that crash ya snails?

frank zealot
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and do I do the router bare metal, or do I do a proxmox vm

hoary hatch
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Bare metal

frank zealot
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okay, 6500T is is for the cpu

hoary hatch
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Why are you copying my router

frank zealot
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and I think I can have 9 NICs in the box

frank zealot
fringe vigil
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baby if I had one wish, we would be best friends, love will never enddd

hoary hatch
fringe vigil
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Navy do you have oled

hoary hatch
fringe vigil
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Tv monitor

hoary hatch
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Or TV

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TV monitor
Kill me

fringe vigil
young void
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Lol

hoary hatch
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I use a 27" QD-OLED monitor

fringe vigil
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27 inch

hoary hatch
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My household also has a 65" LG OLED C9

fringe vigil
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need bigger ngl

hoary hatch
fringe vigil
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That’s already out isn’t it

hoary hatch
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Naw

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Samsung was demoing the panels earlier this year

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But I haven't seen a monitor using it yet

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Unless I completely missed something

frank zealot
hoary hatch
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But I'd expect monitors to be showing that panel at CES 2026

frank zealot
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lower power CPU for a router is a perfectly reasonable direction

hoary hatch
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Lol there's no real world difference I was just noting it's not technically the same CPU

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I tried to get my hands on a 7700T for free but that fell through

frank zealot
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the only difference is that the T Chip is like 15 or 20w tops? (Not that it'll ever get that high)

hoary hatch
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I thought 35W TDP

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Vs 65W

pure garnet
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intel says 35w max

frank zealot
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yup 35

pure garnet
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my thinkcenter has a 65w brick for the whole thing

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so it still makes a difference

hoary hatch
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My router has a 500W gold fully modular SFX-L PSU because it's very necessary for my 50W cpu

fringe vigil
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Why don’t you like the tv oleds

hoary hatch
frank zealot
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I got one of these, that I'm turning into the router.

Reason: Two low-profile PCIE Slots means I can add 8 extra NIC Ports

fringe vigil
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42

frank zealot
hoary hatch
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Okay 42" is too big for my desk

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Also there are some games that I appreciate 240hz in

frank zealot
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42" is pretty big for a desktop monitor in general, unless your desk is REALLY deep

merry stirrup
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ive got thousands of these mfs at work

frank zealot
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add some 4 port PCIE NICs

merry stirrup
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id need some good networking to make it better than my included one

pure garnet
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i need better access points before i ever think about building a router

frank zealot
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I use a Surfboard Modem, and an ASUS Router currently.

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I'm considering upgrading to the PFSense box + a ded AP. (Or just turning the ASUS into an AP)

hoary hatch
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There's a picture of what is currently my router

pure garnet
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i have a dummy ont so i use my google stuff as router+ap

hoary hatch
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I think I was running high Sierra or Mojave when that picture was taken

pure garnet
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moved to wired backhaul but the aps are only good for 450-500 or so

frank zealot
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(I just ordered a 4 port 2.5gbit NIC to add to this box, I'll probably have it tomrorrow or Wed.)

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4x 2.5 gbit ports PCIE
4x 1gbit ports PCIE
1x onboard 1gbit port

hoary hatch
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Oh wow can I really get 6 ports in a single full height card

merry stirrup
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damn that is a squeeze

frank zealot
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apparently yes

hoary hatch
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I don't use mine for switching tho

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2.5GbE wan and 2.5GbE LAN that goes to a 2.5GbE unmanaged switch

frank zealot
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I want fewer parts if I can

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so by adding ports, no more switches

hoary hatch
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Lmao

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I have 4 switches in use?

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Dual 2.5GbE switches, dual gigabit switches

frank zealot
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If I can get cabling over to my bedroom PC, I'll need a switch there, but.... I want as few as possible

hoary hatch
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Actually might be back down to a single gigabit switch

merry stirrup
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are they stupid switches

hoary hatch
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Yep

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All unmanaged

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Cheap and fool proof to setup

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Although the 2.5gbe switches weren't that cheap...

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But I'm still using the switch I bought sophomore year

frank zealot
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This is a sick setup:
Ikea Fjallbo

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you can add on the rails and just install 19" Rack hardware

gilded quail
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That's kinda sick

frank zealot
merry stirrup
hoary hatch
merry stirrup
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man :(

hoary hatch
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Look it was largely to connect stuff like various consoles to Ethernet, etc

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Or running one cable back to a room and having a few devices on it

frank zealot
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so a friend is looking to unload her xbox one....

This is tempting

merry stirrup
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ive got two, 3 switches? only one is commonly in use

hoary hatch
merry stirrup
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thats fair

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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i got +.24 bps w/out any clock increase or change

pure garnet
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i saw your ping and then had about 30 other things occur inbetween processing so i didn’t notice which part got overclocked

merry stirrup
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look at the Effectives

merry stirrup
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grilled image but you should be able to kinda make it out

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theyre locked at the proper freq instead of freaking out

pure garnet
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oh yeah nice

merry stirrup
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disable pcore density throttling at the bottom of cpu configuration

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and maybe CEP, i did it at the same time lol

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you need to cold boot once for it to activate so let the pc turn on after you apply that then psu off and such

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should significantly help eff clock

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id only get swings of 5-15mhz across all cores on avg instead of like 300+

pure garnet
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i'll look later

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rn i haven't done much ocf with the ocf

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need to finish the d2d thing im sleeping on it

slim pebble
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stark sphinx
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Man i love being so heavily Gpu limited that upgrading to an Ryzen 7 7800x3d gives me basically no performance improvements 99% of the time.

merry stirrup
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poor budget allocation says what?

frank zealot
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that sounds like bad planning on your part

stark sphinx
gilded quail
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Powerful card is not the same as good budget allocation

merry stirrup
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poor budget allocation says what?

gilded quail
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Thinking otherwise just proves the point

merry stirrup
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probably couldve had an XTX and a 9700x or 7700x

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or even a 5070ti, depending on when you put it together

stark sphinx
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But i am happy about the extra m2 slot i now have

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Now my second operating System drive doesn't have to go through the chipset anymore

whole coral
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Edge computing. Cool.

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Always thought that processing data closer to the end user was better than processing it at a centralized data center

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
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sure and mine is too but in reality its one computer

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just depends on when you spent the money on upgrades most recently

whole coral
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20% to predicted 50% from 2024 to 2029. Decent growth.

stark sphinx
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Anyway i still need to tweak my case fan curves a little. Whole thing is a bit too loud for my taste

hollow garden
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yo

merry stirrup
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meow

hollow garden
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lemme ss rq

merry stirrup
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yur

hollow garden
merry stirrup
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at least its a custom rig

dusty lotus
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bro bought on cex

hollow garden
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im changing operating system

merry stirrup
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it definitely wont support XMP, if you were the guy asking earlier

hollow garden
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no, but i do need tpm2.0

dusty lotus
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you dont

hollow garden
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if so ill change motherboard

hollow garden
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its a req

dusty lotus
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8th gen has tpm2 built in

hollow garden
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this pc im selling to a mate

dusty lotus
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and i have a secondary pc with a 9100 and it has tpm2

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tbf its a repurposed office pc

hollow garden
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Would you say that pc is worth the 170 tho

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with 32gb ram and its a full build

low sorrel
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dusty lotus
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170 uk dollars

hollow garden
stark sphinx
dusty lotus
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i paid 100 eur for this office pc with just the cpu and original 8gb of ram

hollow garden
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This is what im planning on upgrading too

dusty lotus
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turned into a low end gaming pc with a gpu and ram

merry stirrup
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100$ is a bit mouch for a 9700K

hollow garden
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just less than 360 total for a total cost of 530

merry stirrup
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why are you getting a K, can you get a 9700 or similar instead for cheaper?

hollow garden
dusty lotus
hollow garden
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same price

merry stirrup
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uhhh

merry stirrup
dusty lotus
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hold on i calculated that wrong

merry stirrup
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youre like years wrong on that data my boy

dusty lotus
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wrong direction

merry stirrup
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lol

dusty lotus
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excuse

merry stirrup
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you better hope cex loves you and gives you a Z board with it

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cause then youll actually be able to overclock it

hollow garden
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RTX 2080 TI 11GB £255-£270
RTX 3060 12GB £200-£220
RTX 3060 TI 8GB £200-£245
RTX 3070 8GB £230-£270
RTX 3070 TI 8GB £250-£280
RTX 3080 10gb £320-340

RTX 4060 8GB £185-£220
RTX 4060 TI 8GB £250-£270

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that was my graphics card options

merry stirrup
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if you had to pick at the 250$ option id geta 2080ti

dusty lotus
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repurposed office pc and it runs games well

hollow garden
merry stirrup
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i think it should be a little faster than the 3070, but it has more vram

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so thats cooler

hollow garden
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the 2080 ti is the same as the rtx 3070

dusty lotus
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1650 with just 4gb running many games fine

hollow garden
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3070 ti is a little faster like 15%

merry stirrup
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and then save up 60-70$ for a 1080p 144hz monitor

merry stirrup
hollow garden
merry stirrup
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going to 1440p in the future will

hollow garden
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i play warzone on 1080p low settings and some on medium

merry stirrup
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you dont have to do that anymore

hollow garden
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when i played with the gtx 1080 8gb i used 4gb vram

drifting glade
merry stirrup
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the whole point of a gpu upgrade is so it doesnt run as poorly anymore my boy

dusty lotus
merry stirrup
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you got scammed

dusty lotus
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nah it was like 250-300 new when it released

hollow garden
merry stirrup
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150fps on a 60hz monitor

dusty lotus
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this monitor has features many dont

merry stirrup
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like?

hollow garden
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i just plug in and play

merry stirrup
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hz=how much fps your monitor can display

hollow garden
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thats why my game feels like ass

merry stirrup
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if you dont have a monitor with 120hz refresh, you dont see 120 frames per seocond

hollow garden
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so if i want to paly 144fps i want a 144hz montiro

dusty lotus
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it has 30w usbc charging, dp passthrough, a LIGHT SENSOR, factory calibrated and verified 100% srgb coverage, true 8bit, ips and various other features

merry stirrup
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yes, and theyre really not that expensive right now

hollow garden
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ahhh

merry stirrup
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in my area commonly for literally 30-60$

hollow garden
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i got 2 60hz monitors rn lol costed me 20 quid each

dusty lotus
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its an office monitor on steroids

merry stirrup
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get a new 144hz 1080p for cheap and sell one of your old ones for 20$

dusty lotus
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its no gaming

merry stirrup
dusty lotus
merry stirrup
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i paid 160$ for my S2716DG

dusty lotus
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brand new

hollow garden
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so i should get the rtx 3070 ti with the i7 9700k with a 144hz monitor and cap my fps to 144?

merry stirrup
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no reason to cap fps but the rest of that sounds good

hoary hatch
dusty lotus
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only thing it doesnt have is speakers

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other than that its a great non gaming monitor

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price doesnt matter much

merry stirrup
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what

hoary hatch
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I lied, it was $240

hollow garden
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only reason im going with the i7 9700k as the motherboard im getting inthis pc is lga 1151, and this is the second best lga 1151 cpu below the i9 9900k

dusty lotus
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tbf i paid like 1200 eur for my main

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
hollow garden
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and the i9 9900k is like 160

merry stirrup
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paying for hyperthreading in the big 25 would be sad

hollow garden
merry stirrup
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yippie!

hoary hatch
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Damn that is painful

hollow garden
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60 quid extra for same performance

merry stirrup
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i paid 550$ for my monitor tbh

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however its da 1440p 360 oled

edgy laurel
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no comment

dusty lotus
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my main dropped to 999 when i bought it and its 1200 again

stark sphinx
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Is it a good time that my monitor cost me almost 400 euro?

merry stirrup
hollow garden
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so the end specs of my new pc will be

Intel i7 9700K
RTX 3070 TI 8gb
32GB DDR4 3200mhz
250gb ssd
1tb harddrive

all for as low as £460 after i trade in the GTX 1660 TI and the i5 8400

dusty lotus
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guess my monitor on the price

edgy laurel
hollow garden
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and the extra i get for the trade in ill get the 144hz monitor

merry stirrup
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this sounds like a fire plan

edgy laurel
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in hindsight its insane what I paid for PG348Q in 2016

merry stirrup
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even if you only got the 144hz monitor youd think you got a new pc

stark sphinx
shell void
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speaking of 1440 oled; TFTCentral posted their review of the PG27AQWP-W (1440p540Hz glossy WOLED) today, and as expected it is the new motion lovers’ dream monitor

merry stirrup
hollow garden
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for 170 total i will upgrade in the future

shell void
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brightest oled monitor in sdr and hdr for both greyscale and colors

merry stirrup
fringe vigil
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Are nanocells still good

hollow garden
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the exact pc im getting but im paying around 100 less by getitng the 170 prebuild and upgrading the graphics card and cpu

merry stirrup
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michael i finally made the 265k fast

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
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compared to max tune 13900KS which was 1.25

dusty lotus
edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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hear me out i list my oled for 400$, go back to the s27 and buy that later

hollow garden
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200hz for 84 quid

merry stirrup
# hollow garden

seems cheap as shit, doesnt even matter if its good (like min maxed) for someone like you, go for it

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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if one of them is IPS, get that one

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if theyre both VA, i probably wouldnt buy either

shell void
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im expecting $1300

merry stirrup
hollow garden
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there we go 144hz for £60

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0.5ms responce time

low sorrel
merry stirrup
stark sphinx
merry stirrup
#

ooh get the dell one if its IPS

#

85$ for 200HZ id get that

edgy laurel
#

$1300 for 1440p is bought by your esports team for you territory

dusty lotus
#

wow lg discontinued my monitor already

merry stirrup
fringe vigil
#

Dutch sybau and go back to tahiti

hollow garden
merry stirrup
#

i better get some slop behind the fucking ihop for that price michael

hollow garden
#

for the dell

dusty lotus
merry stirrup
low sorrel
fringe vigil
merry stirrup
shell void
#

if you want the best motion lover monitor in existence then don’t show up to the store with empty pockets Shrug2

hollow garden
merry stirrup
low sorrel
fringe vigil
merry stirrup
#

but i wouldnt buy the same monitor i have id go for the asus one or whatever

#

its only like 50$ more

#

has a gooder osd

low sorrel
dusty lotus
#

hear me out, 4k is the best gaming res

merry stirrup
#

hear me out, probably, but im not buying a 4k display

hollow garden
merry stirrup
#

he doesnt know

#

respectfully

stark sphinx
pure garnet
#

27ā€ 1080p is rough

fringe vigil
hollow garden
fringe vigil
#

Ass picture quality

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

so what

clear pasture
#

uh what is a generic billboard device that i can eject

fringe vigil
#

What’s your budget

pure garnet
#

24ā€ is right there and won’t sear your eyes out

merry stirrup
hollow garden
shell void
merry stirrup
#

and in the UK

devout ridge
shell void
#

2160p 240Hz is the sweetspot out of what’s available today

fringe vigil
#

Westie go with it buddy you’ll be okay

merry stirrup
hollow garden
#

24 inch is 20 quid less

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
fringe vigil
#

bec why would I help him with a 100 budget

pure garnet
#

24 inch 1080p is better

low sorrel
#

Dual mode 4k 240hx best change my mind

merry stirrup
#

i went like 34ish and 8 like 4 games in a row yesterday

fringe vigil
#

They’re all shit for that price

low sorrel
merry stirrup
fringe vigil
#

Okay buddy

merry stirrup
#

you refuse to accept anything but the best as purchasable

#

the best in a specific price point has to exist

dusty lotus
merry stirrup
#

yeah i feel like it would be a hassle

shell void
#

1440p 540Hz and 2160p 240Hz are equivalents in terms of pixels per second, they’re the two highest specs ATM

#

you pick based on whether youd rather have better frames or more frames

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

pixels per second makes no sense on measuring a displays functionality

dusty lotus
#

i like 4k

shell void
#

sure it does

merry stirrup
#

1x1 @ 1 billion hz

#

its useless for the rest of the sentence though

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
#

you could have the entire sentence make sense by leaving that part out

#

"buy based on you want more hz or res"

shell void
#

everything in computing is a matter of is bandwidth and latency, resolution is bandwidth, and refresh rate is latency

merry stirrup
#

pixels per second is irrelevant and just sounds confusing

dusty lotus
#

im fine with my games dropping below 120 on 4k than having an extremely smooth motion with visible pixels

low sorrel
shell void
#

2160p 240Hz and 1440p540Hz are equivalents but maxed into different trees

merry stirrup
#

yeah thats great why not just say that

stark sphinx
dusty lotus
#

apple stuck on 60hz šŸ‘¹

merry stirrup
shell void
#

studio display needs an update so bad šŸ„€

merry stirrup
#

i dont think a normal person could give me a reasonable definition to hz

low sorrel
#

I hate valorant

#

How did I lose a game when I was 38-21

dusty lotus
#

display xdr may have high ppi and 5k but 60hz bro at least tell lg to give you 5k 120hz panels

#

feeling like 120hz is slowly becoming the new 60hz

shell void
#

it is

devout ridge
#

the point is high color accuracy, not high refresh rate

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

lol

#

16gb the new 8gb and so on

shell void
#

apple won’t put out a new 60Hz mac monitor

low sorrel
devout ridge
stark sphinx
#

Did 1 of you see any 8k monitors recently?

merry stirrup
# low sorrel 32gb the new 16gb

yeah, we're now in the weird in between part where the market wants to decide if 24gb sticks are too weird to put into computers

devout ridge
dusty lotus
#

oled when its both color accurate and high refresh rate

edgy laurel
#

inb4 Pro Display XDR2 uses a different mechanism for the stand and its $1000 again

shell void
#

that would be based

dusty lotus
devout ridge
low sorrel
low sorrel
#

It looked the same as 4k icl

devout ridge
# dusty lotus bs

tf are you talking about ā€œbsā€, it’s been third party verified

dusty lotus
#

i have 98.5% dci p3 coverage

shell void
#

the ipad pro oled is apple’s best display, and the macbook pro is getting oled in the 2026 m6 model

#

there’s nothing exceptional about their current 60Hz IPS panels, they’re just outdated

stark sphinx
#

I haven't seen any 8k monitor irl but would like to

dusty lotus
#

8k is extremely useless these days

low sorrel
devout ridge
#

i’m not saying the display xdr is worth its price, but it has its uses

dusty lotus
#

youd be fine with 4k

shell void
#

their next desktop monitors will still be LCD though because current 24.5-32ā€ OLED panels can’t get bright enough to meet their latest standards

devout ridge
#

4k is more than enough for anything short of VR

#

i want more 8k displays in VR headsets

low sorrel
dusty lotus
low sorrel
#

I see the screen dora effect so much

shell void
stark sphinx
devout ridge
shell void
#

apple wants 1000nits fullscreen on everything new, and none of the current OLED techs can do that with 220ppi at 24-32ā€

dusty lotus
#

id be fine with miniled but many monitors use shitty ones with low amount of dimming zones

stark sphinx
dusty lotus
#

oled is fine for now, windows hdr sucks but videos are vivid

devout ridge
#

wasn’t there a monitor that used essentially a lower resolution monochromatic screen as the backlight?

merry stirrup
#

bro my 8k c38 kit was 240$ a couple days ago and now im finding 6k c30 for that price

dusty lotus
#

a monochromatic oled as backlight would be cool though

devout ridge
#

I might be misremembering though

dusty lotus
#

has to be oled

#

how else do you make light without leds

shell void
#

you might be thinking about dual layer lcd

#

they use a half resolution monochromatic lcd panel to filter the backlight before hitting the main rgb lcd panel

#

it murders efficiency so you don’t see it in normie products

stark sphinx
#

Also i want an big e-ink Monitor to game on just for the meme

devout ridge
dusty lotus
#

speaking of eink

#

i want it to advance

stark sphinx
fringe vigil
devout ridge
dusty lotus
#

i like that ghosting effect of eink

devout ridge
#

eink gaming feels like constantly being concussed

dusty lotus
#

only if e ink became cheaper

devout ridge
#

i wish color e-ink displays for wall art was more of a thing

stark sphinx
#

I dont want an einkaufen monitor for daily use. I want 1 just to troll people

dusty lotus
#

einkaufen

merry stirrup
#

why did german mode activate

devout ridge
#

eink wall poster would be great

fringe vigil
#

I have a plan

dusty lotus
#

what about microled

merry stirrup
stark sphinx
dusty lotus
fringe vigil
#

Dutch hosea was one of the best characters too

merry stirrup
#

MY BAD

#

colour headass

dusty lotus
merry stirrup
#

(my discord is set to international to make the time of messages 24hrs)

fringe vigil
#

Lennys death pissed me off

#

He was a g

dusty lotus
#

charles

fringe vigil
#

Charles never died

dusty lotus
#

thats the w

stark sphinx
#

Side question. Was 60hz always the standard refresh rate for TVs?

fringe vigil
#

Mary Beth

dusty lotus
#

60hz was standard generally in other regions such as the us

stark sphinx
#

Cuz i am wondering why TVs get 60hz as an standard when for the longest time there was to my knowledge no 60fps content for them

#

I probably just have my history wrong

low sorrel
#

Wasn't something something Ac power

dusty lotus
#

that too

#

europe uses 50hz ac

fringe vigil
dusty lotus
#

as far as i am aware

fringe vigil
#

he’s a rat

dusty lotus
stark sphinx
#

I can

fringe vigil
#

Who says that

edgy laurel
#

The NTSC field refresh frequency in the black-and-white system originally exactly matched the nominal 60 Hz frequency of alternating current power used in the United States. Matching the field refresh rate to the power source avoided intermodulation (also called beating), which produces rolling bars on the screen. Synchronization of the refresh rate to the power incidentally helped kinescope cameras record early live television broadcasts, as it was very simple to synchronize a film camera to capture one frame of video on each film frame by using the alternating current frequency to set the speed of the synchronous AC motor-drive camera. This, as mentioned, is how the NTSC field refresh frequency worked in the original black-and-white system; when color was added to the system, however, the refresh frequency was shifted slightly downward by 0.1%, to approximately 59.94 Hz, to eliminate stationary dot patterns in the difference frequency between the sound and color carriers (as explained below in § Color encoding). By the time the frame rate changed to accommodate color, it was nearly as easy to trigger the camera shutter from the video signal itself.

fringe vigil
#

If only arthur didn’t go to see Thomas downes and be a jerk to him

low sorrel
#

Yeah what he said

fringe vigil
#

His fault bitch ass

whole coral
#

Yooo first signs of winter

dusty lotus
#

ill be ass to strauss on my 2nd playthrough

whole coral
#

31F at night? Yes please

fringe vigil
#

Good

whole coral
#

31F in Celsius is -0.5C

fringe vigil
#

also what happened to strauss when he was shunned

dusty lotus
#

thank you for converting it for the rest of the world

whole coral
#

It’s gonna be cold enough to snow lol. No moisture though

#

December is when I should expect my first measurable snowfall

topaz veldt
#

Alright ya'll ASUS 5090 TUF OC is in the mail

dusty lotus
#

asus tuc

topaz veldt
#

Should I buy another one in miami lol

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
stark sphinx
merry stirrup
stark sphinx
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

i am also thinking im not suit for work today

#

im gonna work my second half of the day from work

topaz veldt
#

sick?

merry stirrup
#

tes

low sorrel
#

Who is tes

merry stirrup
#

the elder scrolls

stark sphinx
merry stirrup
stark sphinx
#

Maybe i should play some more demanding games so my cpu gets something to do

merry stirrup
#

rust

#

tarkov likes x3d

stark sphinx
#

Right now i am playing Honkai Star Rail and have an hard time getting CPU usage over 10%

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

the 265k ends up similarly

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup how is your shit last i focused in the other DIMMs were broken

merry stirrup
#

got said gskills, their pcb is better, ill probably be able to restabilize 9133 in the case (still dont know why it wouldnt tbh) but im at 9k c38 rn

#

38-52-16-50-56

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

never did 9133 when i put it in the case, either set of dimms

topaz veldt
#

Ohhhh

merry stirrup
#

does/did 9133 on bench and consistently, idk why it doesnt in the case

topaz veldt
#

I thought 9133 was like... all buttoned up and I was sad

#

Now I feel less sad

merry stirrup
#

i wasnt able to boot 9266 on the klevvs in the case

#

i was able to on the gskills

#

=9133 probably stabilizable again i just need to do things

merry stirrup
#

a whole 133 mhz

#

if i end up not being able to stabilize

#

not super deep but i am going to try

topaz veldt
#

Word I feel you

merry stirrup
#

im just trying to look in a ceritified good tune that i can use for gaming/general flexing as i setup the min max config

topaz veldt
#

I know everyone is like "watercool the DIMMs" but its so hard in a reasonable case

fringe vigil
#

Snail wasup

topaz veldt
#

hi jorj

merry stirrup
#

im going to run my gskills naked eventually but for like the first couple days maybe ill leave their spreader on still lol

#

c38 9000 takes not a lot of voltage but its not a small amount

topaz veldt
#

whats it taking?

merry stirrup
#

i think its on 1.52 or 1.55 rn

topaz veldt
#

yeah thats about what I ended up on vdd

merry stirrup
#

so, decent dimms

topaz veldt
#

what vddq?

merry stirrup
#

1.4, havent played w/it (much) and it works at 9k so not gonna mess wit it for getting a high end tune done

fringe vigil
#

hi

merry stirrup
#

@topaz veldt does your apex have the power density throttle option?

#

also, theres a 200$ brand new 265k on marketplace i may buy for the sake of delid/just science

topaz veldt
#

ASUS has uhhh TVB?

merry stirrup
#

we have that too

#

wonder if it just doesnt exist, it causes my eff clocks (even when power unlocked) to just be terrible though

#

often dropping below 5ghz during prime, etc

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

cpu or mem vddq cause i was talking about mem

topaz veldt
#

hmmm

#

I don't see anything anywhere about "power density"

merry stirrup
#

hmmm interesting

#

ill show you when im home, i go on break/work from home for rest of the day in 30 minutes

#

do your effective clocks in ycruncher=set/reported clocks?

#

or does it fluctuate a lot

topaz veldt
#

This is one of my other 5090 master ices

pure garnet
#

my 8600 was 1.35 same as my 9000

merry stirrup
#

mem vddq shouldnt have a huge impact from what i grasp based on this board, but, it is a signaling voltage

topaz veldt
#

my ASUS 5090 TUF that was being weird was hanging around 11.8-11.9v

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

like its different for sure but 11.8 is still well within atx spec

topaz veldt
#

Well its not ATX power

merry stirrup
#

i mean no, but its all we have to go off of, i dont htink the pcie voltage tolerances are public

topaz veldt
#

this is the ATX +12v

merry stirrup
#

its allegedly larger than the atx spec for 24 pin

topaz veldt
#

But yeah I dunno - ASUS 5090 TUF OC was hitting as low as 11.6 under load

merry stirrup
#

that is pretty bad and where id be worried cause thats the bottom of the atx spec

topaz veldt
#

I have no idea if its an "issue" but something I noticed

merry stirrup
#

yeah

#

different ā„¢

topaz veldt
#

and when I put an air cooled 5090 Master in the same system same 12vhpwr cable, etc., it was 12.1-12.2

#

(and not crashing and being a POS)

merry stirrup
#

figured you guys might also think its cool

topaz veldt
shell void
#

i will be intercepting the package

topaz veldt
#

have fun

pure garnet
#

11.6 in hwinfo?

#

it might’ve been falling under that

#

like how hwinfo couldn’t catch what bz measured on raptor

topaz veldt
#

Maybe if @turbid locust is around later he can fire up Furmark and check hwinfo 12vhpwr reporting

hoary hatch
fringe vigil
#

whos on arc raiders

merry stirrup
hoary hatch
#

Also 4k monitors fetched a nice premium
Gaming monitors of that era were often TN and thus compromised

#

My dells had decent panels, plentiful I/O, nice build quality, and were very reliable

merry stirrup
#

lies

#

(my s27 dell is great)

#

although i think it’s dying slowly

#

every once and a while it’ll put the middle row of pixels on the far right of the screen

hoary hatch
#

My sister has reported that one of my U2414Hs has begun flickering on occasion

hoary hatch
#

Nearly 10 years later

#

I'll accept 10 years out of those

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
#

slow death

#

for the last year of my ownership my 3008wfp had a single pixel wide yellow line down the middle

#

would be there on wakeup/powerup and fade after a few hours

merry stirrup
#

@topaz veldt

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

mkay

green marsh
#

someone is gifting a Core 2 Quad PC, but this is one of the cases i never seen before

#

found the model, internals are ewww

merry stirrup
#

i feel like i’ve seen that orange logo vefore

edgy laurel
green marsh
#

yeah, but exterior looks interesting, so industrial šŸ˜„

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup oh

merry stirrup
#

turn it off and cold boot if you haven’t

#

i got a quite large ycruncher speed increase

topaz veldt
#

Ok let me see

#

I have stock clocks fwiw

merry stirrup
#

even on stock

#

i was only hitting 5 out of 5.2ghz on my effective clocks for pcores on avg across like an hour of yc

edgy laurel
#

@green marsh what you want is a Dell T320 chassis

#

the "fuck your RGB" tower

green marsh
#

nah, i don't want any new cases

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

yepppppp

#

tell me i don’t know the sauce fr šŸ™„

topaz veldt
#

I should OC the CPU again

#

what are you running now?

merry stirrup
#

nothing but +200mhz e rn

topaz veldt
#

any voltage added there?

merry stirrup
#

5.2 all core (stock) 4.8e

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
merry stirrup
#

i did 3 hours on +50 before flipping that setting

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
#

like if a main battle tank was a case

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

what’s your bits per second in ycruncher usually?

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

I use the cable that came with my rm1000e

edgy laurel
#

how early were you playing with Ubiquiti gear

#

I bought one of the first AP's

#

the controller software had to be installed on a machine and it was all done in Java

pure garnet
topaz veldt
topaz veldt
#

need someone with a 600W load

#

@merry stirrup what are you running for NGU and D2D?

merry stirrup
#

where’s homie miguel

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

I am just using 200S, 3.2 GHz each

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

you need to test for us

topaz veldt
#

hit me

pure garnet
#

if you sleep with a d2d >30 on both mine and floppas machine it will fail yc/p95 large on resume

topaz veldt
#

oh i saw that ping

pure garnet
#

but pass fine before

topaz veldt
#

Here's the prob - I don't sleep

merry stirrup
#

me neither but it’s worth it for the write up

#

sample size so asrock can maybe fix it for us

pure garnet
#

can you sleep it once for science so i can email asrock

topaz veldt
#

well wouldn't 200S have issues then?

merry stirrup
#

allegedly!

topaz veldt
#

Sure... let me find out how to sleep properly

merry stirrup
#

this is what we’re finding out. 3/3 chips so far error out

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

i just hit sleep in windows and insta resume it

topaz veldt
#

what is the bench specifically you want me to do

edgy laurel
#

Start > Power > sleep

merry stirrup
#

it should be under power

merry stirrup
#

either failed for us

pure garnet
#

p95 large is what i've used but it happens on vt3 too

topaz veldt
#

OK i have prime95 from benchmate

#

good enough?

edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

should be

merry stirrup
#

p sure that’s pi prime

topaz veldt
#

oh yeah its not

#

grumble grumble

merry stirrup
#

you can use ycruncher it’s fine

topaz veldt
#

wtf is with ycrunch 0.7 vs 0.8

merry stirrup
#

2.5b would fail

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

yeah the scores are totally diff

merry stirrup
#

i’m pretty sure you have to sub runs on .8 now

topaz veldt
#

which do you run?

fringe vigil
merry stirrup
#

.8

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

that will probably fail

#

if not try going to 5b. but yc failed instantly for me

topaz veldt
#

OK so let me run before sleep, then after

merry stirrup
#

granted i used the program and not they benchmate

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

this is ddr5-8000 intel 200s mode

merry stirrup
#

happened on 3 widely different systems

#

all unfortunately asrock though

topaz veldt
#

but all asrock?

pure garnet
#

no gigabyte too

topaz veldt
#

ah interesting

merry stirrup
#

OH right

#

i forgot you had a giga board before this one

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

shit lived in the foreground

pure garnet
#

if it happens with 200s then like

topaz veldt
#

ok sleeping now goodnight

pure garnet
#

it's 100% an intel bug but idk who to email

merry stirrup
#

sleep tight

#

idk asrock so they fix it and don’t tell anyone else

#

let’s goo

pure garnet
#

presumably someone at asrock can also tell the right people at intel

merry stirrup
#

yeah

topaz veldt
#

hi what day is it

merry stirrup
#

michigan

#

i hope it fails

#

please be a microcode issue

edgy laurel
#

asrock fixed something? huh

merry stirrup
#

no we hope they will šŸ’€

edgy laurel
#

oh. yeah so do all Ryzen 9000 series owners

#

good luck with that

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

well i’ve seen them explode on msi too

topaz veldt
#

lol i went to sleep it did not crasha nd my score is better

merry stirrup
#

interesting!

pure garnet
#

huh

steel stream
merry stirrup
#

maybe the bench version matters? let me try that

pure garnet
#

you have 200s mode on? not just manual 32/32?

civic reef
#

Downloading a 270MB driver at 20 KB/S because Nahimic doesn't like my audio driver not being up to date

edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

is it something with vccsa then huh

civic reef
#

Apparently this PC wasn't even using Realtek drivers

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

So is ASUS back to being the better choice

merry stirrup
#

conveniently we’re talking about you kinda

civic reef
#

Uninstalled the current ones and installing Realtek's newest at a blistering 20 KB/s

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
civic reef
pure garnet
#

lemme boot 200s

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
# civic reef Well, I kinda need to update because I need to use Nahimic

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merry stirrup
#

alright sleep tight computer

topaz veldt
#

good night fella

merry stirrup
#

arise my child

#

RIIIISEEEEE

topaz veldt
#

hello - welcome to today, you are new

civic reef
# edgy laurel I doubt that, tbh

Thing was refusing to load, kept saying I need to restart my PC
Restarted, nothing
Deleted, reinstalled, nothing
Now I am just downloading drivers

merry stirrup
#

i wait for benchmate to be happy

#

i run da benchmark

#

instant fail.

#

maybe 200s does somethin here

#

i go try now

green marsh
#

also RIP my P67 board, it released some magic smoke today. It powers up after that, but it always ends up with code 55 (no RAM)

merry stirrup
#

the computer immediately feels like shit when it wakes up, too

pure garnet
#

i have 0 clue if my cpu is even stable in 200s mode so i gotta run prime for a bit before i sleep

merry stirrup
#

my cpu is, i also don’t get full 200S boost tho

topaz veldt
#

It... should be? Isn't 200S like.... gimp mode

topaz veldt
#

I should read about 200S I thought it was like remedial OC

pure garnet
#

i haven't tried it since i had the 3 broken xmp profiles kit

merry stirrup
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always a brick

topaz veldt
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here's whats funny

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I am on 9000 CL42 kit the only XMP in it is 9000 or 6400

merry stirrup
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oh yeah also. sleeping triggers the aon cold boot bug

topaz veldt
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and somehow it comes up with some 8000 profile

fringe vigil
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me waiting for help in ts

steel stream
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what do you wish jorj

fringe vigil
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i need a genie

steel stream
pure garnet
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sleeping it now