#tech-chat-2

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merry stirrup
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z590 gigabyte was very good

pseudo bane
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Ez to configure, things are named what they are

pure garnet
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“just dump every setting in one long list”

merry stirrup
pseudo bane
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Ax*

merry stirrup
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i have and had a z590 aorus pro ax and z590 aorus ultra

pure garnet
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i think i’d still put asus on top but i know what asus names stuff usually

merry stirrup
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skipped elite and never bought a master

pseudo bane
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good motherboard

pure garnet
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the asrock bios okay but it’s missing a lot of basic qol

shell void
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msi: gear down mode (enable/disable)

asus: ADDR_CMD_MODE (1/0)

pseudo bane
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I miss that platform, it was really good for memory oc

pure garnet
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if i lived near a microcenter the $460 apex would’ve been a better deal

shell void
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fuck off

merry stirrup
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aorus pro lives in here

merry stirrup
shell void
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buffering my address command mode

merry stirrup
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whatever the fuck that means

pure garnet
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just buy intel

merry stirrup
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4 pronged eating utensils

pure garnet
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no gdm 🔥

shell void
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i dont believe that people actually find asus' easier to use or more intuitive, theyre just used to it, and it's the most popular

merry stirrup
shell void
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they want to be included with the cool kids using apex boards

merry stirrup
pseudo bane
pure garnet
pseudo bane
shell void
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i learned it too but it's not intuitive at all

merry stirrup
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my conclusion here is that xtu is a terrible benchmark

pure garnet
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what cooler are you using

merry stirrup
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i agree

shell void
pseudo bane
merry stirrup
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ycruncher

pseudo bane
pure garnet
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is there thermal paste

merry stirrup
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maybe

pure garnet
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that should not be doing 100c at 241w

pseudo bane
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this setup used to be really really fucking god tier, before I updated to win 11

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I'm definitely blaming win 11 beardLinusKappa

merry stirrup
pseudo bane
pure garnet
merry stirrup
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did you reinstall xtu or anything

pseudo bane
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haunted OS

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no, same XTU'

merry stirrup
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so do it

pseudo bane
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only thing I can think of is maybe it needs an update for intel ME

pure garnet
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dude the superflower was actually the noisest thing in my pc

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im running prime 95 small ffts with the default curve and i can't hear it

pseudo bane
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I do have another aio I can use

fringe vigil
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eva back

pseudo bane
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I've got a thermal right AIO just for this occasion

pure garnet
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@merry stirrup what are your temps on the naut

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wondering if my noctua fans are harming me a lil

pseudo bane
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I don't think the AIO is failing tho

shell void
shell void
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peculiar

pseudo bane
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idk anymore man 😭 this thing is pissing me off

pseudo bane
pure garnet
shell void
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im surprised it let it get up to 106c

pseudo bane
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it's the weirdest fucking thing, vcore is actually setup to what I want it to (about 1.3v under load) and the wattage limit is actually being respected

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what else could cause this issue thinkfused

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I remounted the cooler about an hour ago

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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250 or whayever im at like 86c max package temp

pure garnet
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okay so the issue was i didn’t hook a fan to port 1

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and it wasn’t controlling the fans at all

merry stirrup
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oh ok good

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the nautilus is pretty good so i don’t expect that bad

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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wouldn’t those maybe be better? idk

pure garnet
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i think now that i have rpm control it should be better

merry stirrup
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yeah

pseudo bane
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fuck it

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I'll try to reinstall the pump

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one of the standoffs did come off and I didn't putit back with the tool

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but using my hands instead

merry stirrup
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probably won’t make a difference don’t kill your board over tightening it

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i just don’t think your settings are applying bro use your bios and not xtu

pure garnet
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i had to use pliers to get the naut mounting hardware off my tomahawk

pseudo bane
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that's the only thing I can think of that's wrong with this system

merry stirrup
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xtu could even be overriding your settings

pure garnet
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probably update bios too

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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no default limit sounds really old

pseudo bane
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Actually before I do anythi

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what's a recommended CPU stress test for temps?

pure garnet
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okay it makes noises in prime now i may need to curse this

pure garnet
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so that would work

pseudo bane
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I'm using kombustor CPU burner

pure garnet
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silent preset in bios

merry stirrup
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bro

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something just beeped at me

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did the ocf just beep at me

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i’m so confused

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am i about to blow up 😭

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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it sounded like it could’ve been my ups but it’s not throwing any code so 😭

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the ocf doesn’t have a speaker though there’s no way it’s the ocf

pure garnet
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i love the annoying red led

shell void
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explosion in 15 seconds

pure garnet
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dual bios is cool i guess

merry stirrup
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i wanted new ram anyways so i’m not super mad i killed my dimms i wont lie

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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i have a couple boards with dual bios but it swaps to it whenever it wants and there’s no switch

shell void
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my goat

merry stirrup
shell void
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flopper when will u stop playing in uefi and instead play valorant with us

random flame
merry stirrup
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i have a single dimm

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and it will take me weeks to finish z890

shell void
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we need to run down a 4 man at some point

scarlet iron
merry stirrup
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memory tuning went fast so that’s a plus as long as it works again

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it’s not like z790 8k where it only worked once it literally worked for 2 days just fine

shell void
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i cant wait to see what speeds are hit with generation 2 cudimm running in gear 4 on nova lake

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since that cpu is officially rated for 8000MT/s in 2x1r

merry stirrup
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but z890 cpu min maxing is insane

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have to do core cycler and shit

shell void
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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as i’ve never done it before and this gen seems to like it a lot more

shell void
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ego clocking the lion cove

merry stirrup
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especially on e cores

merry stirrup
shell void
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you will surely not regret 1.45vcore under load

merry stirrup
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it’s ego clocking if i were to set a 60c tvb limit for 5.6 or something

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then a -2 offset past 60c

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cause you can’t stress test the 5.6 period

merry stirrup
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and one of the sensors will say like “vcore 1.52”

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so you freak out a little

shell void
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it's fine the cpu only has to live for like 14 months

merry stirrup
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not how it works with dlvr shits wack

shell void
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just dont pump 1.65vddimc

merry stirrup
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allegedly

merry stirrup
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longest i kept a cpu was 2 years and that’s just cause i was poor and really liked z590

shell void
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youre gonna have no interest in 20 core ultra 200 when 52 core ultra 400 exists :p

merry stirrup
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i will be buying it all

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evil buildzoid

shell void
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arctic wolf awoooo :3

merry stirrup
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you’re just saying things now

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i tapped on your pfp on accident and almost video called you

edgy laurel
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do it

merry stirrup
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i’ll do it to you

gilded quail
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Ring ring hello

merry stirrup
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when you’re least suspecting

edgy laurel
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i'm ready

shell void
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i havent had a webcam setup since i was finishing highschool online during the start of covid

pure garnet
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i used to only set it up for video calls that forced it then unplug it right after

merry stirrup
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i have a whole

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i phone se2 or something as my webcam

gilded quail
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Gotta have the 3 different logitech webcam setup

pure garnet
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i gotta finish this assignment then i can play valorant (do it in its entirety)

merry stirrup
pure garnet
merry stirrup
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now screenshot vcore

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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lmao

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shits terrifying bro

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just like seeing my 12v at 14v

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i thought it was over entirely

pseudo bane
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Ladies and gentlemen, it doesnt boot

merry stirrup
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i can turn a perfectly functioning computer into

not that

indigo tree
pseudo bane
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Haha fuck you im the greatest

indigo tree
pseudo bane
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ami means

gilded quail
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amor - love ami(go/ga) -friend if talking about spanish

gilded quail
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but ami is an abbreviation here

pseudo bane
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okay, atleast I know it's definitely not thyge cooler in this scenario

topaz veldt
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I love how tonight my son plays rocket league for like 1.5 hours on my 285K with RAM at 9000 M/Ts and doesn't give a crap at all lol

merry stirrup
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9000 gaming was great

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i was getting 280fps avg in apex

topaz veldt
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I have never played Aped

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apex*

merry stirrup
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i don’t suggest it

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
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Aped lol

gilded quail
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Ape Escape my beloved

merry stirrup
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maybe tarkov will fw 142gb/s

fleet marsh
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can anyone recommend a good screen display for inside the pc case with decent software that can display temps and resource ? and possibly gifs ????

indigo tree
merry stirrup
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nobody has z890 cause of poor media report but i wonder

shell void
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Codename "Nova Lake-S" (Core Ultra 400S Series)
"Coyote Cove" P-cores + "Arctic Wolf" E-cores
(8P 16E) + (8P 16E) + (4LPE) 72MB L3
(8P 16E) + (4LPE) 144MB L3
(8P 16E) + (4LPE) 36MB L3
(4P 8E) + (4LPE) 20MB L3
AVX10.2 + APX
2x1R 8000MT/s
24x 5.0 CPU + 8x 5.0 Chipset + 16x 4.0 Chipset
4x Xe3p iGPU
Xe4 Media Engine

merry stirrup
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damn i gotta buy 2 top end skus

low sorrel
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finally no more unread pings

merry stirrup
shell void
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inshallah

merry stirrup
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it’s sad 200 series doesn’t have avx 512 tbh

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they seem efficient enough to warrant it

shell void
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had to wait for AVX10.2 for AVX512 to run on hybrid design

merry stirrup
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lmao literally

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fuckin crazy

shell void
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theoretically there should be no reason that 12p0e bartlett lake couldnt run avx512 but i dont think it was ever implemented in raptor cove

merry stirrup
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ycruncher on benchmate memes about it

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“haha your * modern* intel chip doesn’t have avx 512”

fleet marsh
merry stirrup
brisk jolt
merry stirrup
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it’s quite comical

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and it really does matter, my 7900x3d is still faster than my fastest 13900Ks run

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to be fair the 7900x3d was at 8k during that

topaz veldt
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I don't use avx512

merry stirrup
shell void
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poor ol' tsmc n6 soc tile getting slandered because it's hotglued to the ccds

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it's not even that bad

merry stirrup
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lmao

shell void
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the rdna2 igpu in it is a meme, but the memory controllers are fine all things considered

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8000-8600 gear 2 isnt bad

merry stirrup
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the bandwidth in that is bad

shell void
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you just only get one 64/32GB/s link to each CCD

merry stirrup
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yeah

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repurposed pcie interconnect

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working as good as ever

topaz veldt
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I uninstall avx512.msi

merry stirrup
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that sounds like a virus snail

shell void
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msi? DRAGONS?

merry stirrup
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oh my lord i have an msi motherboard

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oh my god i have two. it’s over.

shell void
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my msi boards continue to justworkTM

merry stirrup
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(i’ve owned more msi than any other brand for boards)

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this is my first ever asrock board

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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some of the jank peeks thru the z890 veil

shell void
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asrock: 1/1 work fine
msi: 3/3 worked fine
asus: 0/2 worked fine
gigabyte: 1/1 worked fine

merry stirrup
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if i set timings that dont post

my power button just doesnt work when it turns itself off

shell void
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🔥

vestal granite
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ive never had an issue with any board ever

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must be user error

topaz veldt
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gigabtye x570 master tried to kill me

merry stirrup
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well my z590 pro ax hit like a million degrees on the vrm but didn’t explode

digital plume
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ummm guuys

merry stirrup
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(it had severe power plane issues)

vestal granite
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i havent been killed by a PC yet but air coolers try to kill me by giving me cuts on my fingers

shell void
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why do you have an ibm x58 server board

digital plume
vestal granite
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every air cooler ive ever installed comes with some of my blood preincluded

digital plume
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it has four cores and 16gb of ram

shell void
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why did you purchase this my friend

vestal granite
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especially ones where i gotta lever the fan clips off

digital plume
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even if the latencies are ass

merry stirrup
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not that ass

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you’re choosing the ass

digital plume
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its ddr3 1060 something

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let me do a latency test

merry stirrup
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overclock.

shell void
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latency is probably quite low, but you have abysmal throughput in every metric

merry stirrup
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x58 very clockable

digital plume
shell void
digital plume
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i don't think it supports much overclock

merry stirrup
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oh it’s oem

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alright use setFSB

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i think it’s old enough to use external clock gens

merry stirrup
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pretty sure that dell pc i was fucking with supported set fsb and was x58

shell void
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floppa sees the most niche ibm dual socket x58 server ever and he says BLOW IT UP

merry stirrup
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dude id overclock a brand new in box DMG gameboy

digital plume
merry stirrup
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says the one with it powered on rn

digital plume
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until i don't know put two x5675s and max the memory

digital plume
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free of it's glorious VM server days

merry stirrup
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worlds most efficient office computer

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i have a ricer pc

shell void
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very fair and balanced matchmaking riot games

merry stirrup
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z890 ocf but 265k and single channel memory

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should take out the 5070ti and make it an office pc fr

digital plume
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just six 10k rpm fans

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and two 800 something psus

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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the humble quadro p620

brisk jolt
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im predicting the score to be 3-13

digital plume
merry stirrup
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currently chilling at 16GB DDR5-9000

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this is almost a jedec dual channel ddr5 setup

digital plume
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my 16gb ddr3 1067 smokes your ddr5

merry stirrup
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i think even single channel i still win bro

digital plume
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no shit...

merry stirrup
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youd be surprised hold on damn

digital plume
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my 10th gen i3 gets something like 38 gb/s reads on aida64 memory read

pure garnet
digital plume
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i was lucky to get 14 gb/s reads on this

cloud vigil
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I need the IBM 64GB DDR3 DIMM and I need to install four of them on an i7-4690K

digital plume
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also what the fuck are these timings bro

merry stirrup
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that jedec bro

digital plume
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im greener than grass

cloud vigil
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gonna run my ryzen on DDR5-600 3-3-3-9

digital plume
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its kinda sad if i fill all 16 slots of this server here

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i will be forced to use 800 mhz

merry stirrup
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YO ITS THAY ONE GUYS THING

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we made fun of him

digital plume
merry stirrup
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ddr5 cosplaying as ddr3

shell void
digital plume
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dear god

shell void
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(i played really good on omen)

brisk jolt
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i call bought accounts as well

merry stirrup
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i call racism and cheats whatever one gets proven first

digital plume
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say, how do i make my puny single e5606 work as hard as it can?

merry stirrup
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fuck tou michael

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he wants to blow it up this is his choice

digital plume
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good idea

merry stirrup
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set fsb and find your crystal

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and then intel burn test or linpack

vestal granite
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it will have a 700H/s hashrate on monero algorithm

merry stirrup
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that is mental

vestal granite
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or approximately bad

merry stirrup
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this strawberry pop tart is terrible

vestal granite
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a 5600x gets 5700H/s

merry stirrup
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also approximately bad

digital plume
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what is a monero...

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
vestal granite
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its like bitcoin but the government hides it from you because its too good at its job

digital plume
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it's gonna suffer

edgy laurel
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better if you actually toast them but like.. who does that

merry stirrup
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yeah what the hell

digital plume
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dude just wrap a cheese slice with mustard

merry stirrup
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i’m not standing at my toaster for a whole 2 minutes

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what did you even just say

digital plume
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best snack i've ever concocted

merry stirrup
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moving on

dapper junco
digital plume
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when you ass hungry grab a cheese slice put mustard on it and wrap it like a burrito

merry stirrup
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i am quite happy with the y40

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the plastic parts are so strange to me

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never seen so much plastic on a case

digital plume
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tasted as plasticky as a ford ecosport

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never again

edgy laurel
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what

merry stirrup
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what

digital plume
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you never been in a modern low end ford

dapper junco
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no the ramen part

digital plume
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cheap ramen tastes like plastic with salt water

merry stirrup
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am i in a fever dream

digital plume
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am i doing a good job at making zero sense?

edgy laurel
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Yes. TC1 would love you

merry stirrup
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quite!

digital plume
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fantastic

merry stirrup
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it’s crazy how 1 chat below is entirely different

digital plume
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l4d2 on linux on wine on a playstation 4 loads extremely slowly

cloud vigil
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real tech chat 2 hours

brittle trellis
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Discord users are notoriously shit at changing channels so if you have multiple of one type, the weird shit is usually contained to whatever is first in the list

dapper junco
digital plume
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instant ramen

merry stirrup
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it’s weird to me i like clicking around most of a server

digital plume
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shift esc

merry stirrup
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often you’ll see me in both chats at the same time

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gotta brainrot max

dapper junco
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pot noodle moment

brittle trellis
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I think mobile users are the main problem since it doesn't show them the list unless they want to see it

digital plume
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i'm sure ramen from a shop would be made with actual wheat produce rather than some variant of starch

astral portal
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What is it about Sora 2 and the fact that no mater how hard I try I can't get it not to give me Neko with human ears and not just Neko no human ears?

digital plume
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and chemicals por preservation

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this is truly tech chat 2 peak hours

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sora 2 neko with human ears

merry stirrup
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hi darvan

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this guy is haunting me i swear

dapper junco
merry stirrup
hoary hatch
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Mmm sustenance

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
fringe fossil
merry stirrup
digital plume
hoary hatch
digital plume
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i love dry chicken tho

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that's like the best part of chicken

hoary hatch
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It's thighs

digital plume
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yeah

dapper junco
digital plume
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boil it until it has no soul left

digital plume
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only true way to cook chicken thigh

merry stirrup
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it’s not a bad thing. it allows them to make it look incredible

hoary hatch
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It's not as good as it was on Saturday but c'est la vie

merry stirrup
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it’s just very interesting

digital plume
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how do i fit an rtx a2000 on the rack server

merry stirrup
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looks pretty okay

digital plume
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should i use a riser

merry stirrup
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the back and top panels have crazy molding

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i csnt pop it off rn but

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it looks good in here imo

verbal obsidian
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is this good enough for stability? its been an absolute b trying to get no errors to run my ram at stock

steel stream
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Imma lose my mind

digital plume
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how much easier would computers be if they had something like rack servers do, a light panel diagnostic

dapper junco
steel stream
dapper junco
verbal obsidian
merry stirrup
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hours more

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what do you mean get ram to run at stock

verbal obsidian
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i may run it overnight or during day

merry stirrup
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describe your setup please

digital plume
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it still pisses me off so much

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it has an altitude sensor

verbal obsidian
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12900KF
32GB Corsair Vengeance 6400Mhz Cas36
eVGA 3070
MSI Z790 S Wifi
Coolermaster Pl360 Flux AIO
Phanteks XT Pro Ultra
Corsair RM850

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it has been hardlocking for months at auto voltages

merry stirrup
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and it’s not running at xmp?

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what voltages are you running now? all of them

verbal obsidian
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it is

merry stirrup
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well no you have to change things

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xmp meaning just xmp

verbal obsidian
merry stirrup
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what’s TX?

verbal obsidian
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1.4

merry stirrup
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okay should be okay then

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try not to increase vdd2 much past that if you can

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no more than 1.45 tx

verbal obsidian
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yeah it gave me 1usmus error 15 at just 1.4

fringe vigil
merry stirrup
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yeah fair

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should be ok. sad imc tho

verbal obsidian
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sa is 1.3

merry stirrup
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that’s pretty ok yeah

verbal obsidian
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i know not gonna get over 6400 on this one methinks

merry stirrup
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probably not

verbal obsidian
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ringbus at 4ghz

merry stirrup
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better board combo would help prolly

verbal obsidian
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yeah should have went max a

merry stirrup
verbal obsidian
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some people have hit 4.9 with e cores disabled

merry stirrup
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sounds more like what i’d expect but i didn’t know

verbal obsidian
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the vrms are not great

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had to lower vdd and vddq or else it throws other mem errors

merry stirrup
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a flopper does not reckon that is your problem

verbal obsidian
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from xmp

merry stirrup
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vrm on d5 isn’t on the board

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stick itself

dapper junco
verbal obsidian
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oh i mean the motherboard vrms

fringe vigil
merry stirrup
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yeah but that’s probably not affecting your ram oc or ring

verbal obsidian
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16 phase would be better than 12 though no for more voltage stability or no?

merry stirrup
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12 is more than enough i pwomise

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it’s not really a voltage stability thing more of a vrm efficiency thing

edgy laurel
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what am I supposed to do with my 24???

verbal obsidian
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ok i just built this spring upgraded from a 1st gen i5 lol

merry stirrup
south shuttle
merry stirrup
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which is a 12 phase

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only 10 for cpu

verbal obsidian
south shuttle
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i have some 8-12 phase bois and they’re fien

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also it’s not just the quantity again

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some good quality phases equal to more phases

verbal obsidian
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my evga p55 ftw stayed absolutely constant on voltages

pure garnet
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6400 on alder not working isn't uncommon

edgy laurel
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sometimes I just gaze and and think.. I have no idea why any of this is important but it sure is pretty

pure garnet
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those chips came out when 5600 was expensive

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aren't they useless though

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like my board would only use maybe 8-9 phases

verbal obsidian
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ah well a 14900 will probably be in my future at some point

pure garnet
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i don't think it's worth putting more money into lga 1700

verbal obsidian
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still a lil sus on the microcode

pure garnet
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just turn on xmp, drop the speed to 6000 and rock that

verbal obsidian
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for some reason anything other than 4800 was running worse

frank zealot
verbal obsidian
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there have been a few bios updates though

pure garnet
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do those then try what i said

frank zealot
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Despite that many vrms won't even get all that hot

verbal obsidian
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i am on the newest one now

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should have gone cas 28 or 30 6000

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the limit of this board is 6600

edgy laurel
verbal obsidian
frank zealot
edgy laurel
#

the major heat producers (if you can even call it that in this case), the mosfets are completely covered though yes

pure garnet
#

oh guilty has a taichi too

#

the marble is neat

edgy laurel
#

i thought so too, but its a rare board. i have the black one

pure garnet
frank zealot
#

Asrock makes pretty things

edgy laurel
#

the white marble-look was neat

pure garnet
#

well aside from the bottom half of my board yeah

#

idk what they were thinking with the yellow

frank zealot
verbal obsidian
pure garnet
#

z790 boards can do 6400 fine so yeah just unlucky imc

edgy laurel
frank zealot
native adder
#

Hi guys,

We'll have Black Friday next month, and I was planning on upgrading my 3060TI to a 9060XT (8GB > 16GB), specially because I'm so damn limited in BF6 that if I change anything, I exceed the VRAM limit (I play 1440p).

I have a 5700x with 32GB 3000Mhz in a B450M Steel Legend.

Do you think it is worth the upgrade? Talking about performance-wise, forget the money, as I'll be paying half the price of a new 9060XT because I'll be selling my 3060TI to a buddy.

edgy laurel
#

Erm, in case you aren't aware, just adding a second GPU isn't going to help you

native adder
frank zealot
#

It Def will

edgy laurel
#

why did I read that as they were going to add a 3060Ti. anyway

native adder
#

Even thought it might not be a 50% upgrade, I'm still getting something better compared to the actual GPU... That's what I wanted to confirm with you, the PROS! Thank you!

frank zealot
#

Absolutely not 50%

edgy laurel
native adder
#

Any thoughts? Like 20 - 30% roughly? Still better than the actual one, given the fact that I'll be paying half the price.

pure garnet
native adder
#

++ Will give me more space to change the Textures specially, as I've been limited to playing in Low Textures so far...

edgy laurel
frank zealot
#

18-25% depending on title

pure garnet
verbal obsidian
#

well thanks for answering my questions 😊 helps me quite a bit was a little unsure

pure garnet
#

the yellow is quite the choice

edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

banana mode engaged on the xoc board

edgy laurel
#

if all the yellow was replaced with Taichi gold it would be fine

#

at least you have dual USB3 headers for reasons

pure garnet
#

i wish asrock added dual color power led option

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do you think they'd read my email if i sent one

#

the blinking is annoying

frank zealot
pure garnet
#

i think some of the giant cases have 2 usb 3 ports?

#

like 2 sets*

frank zealot
edgy laurel
#

multiple USB2 headers I can see being useful

frank zealot
#

2 + C is by far the default

frank zealot
#

Free usb 2 header hub

topaz veldt
#

wtf

#

M5 came out?

brisk jolt
#

beamer M5

frank zealot
#

Yup

topaz veldt
#

wtf

#

is it worth it or nah

frank zealot
#

I mean, it's faster, sure, but... is it actually a benefit over the m4?

fringe vigil
#

snail

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

i mean logic says of course not

fringe vigil
#

i have a wedding ugh

topaz veldt
#

is the screen any different

frank zealot
#

Like going from a 13900k to 14900k. Faster? Yup.

Actually that useful a difference? Meh.

fringe vigil
#

rather be at home playing arc raiders

frank zealot
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

Hmmm so no not really

#

I guess wait until M6

edgy laurel
#

display looks nearly identical

#

you just have an M4, not an M4 Pro, right?

topaz veldt
#

I have M4

pure garnet
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

nope

pure garnet
#

pretty neat

edgy laurel
#

no idea what this is

topaz veldt
#

Super awesome

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so like... say you have mkvs and you want to remove all non-english subtitles and audiotracks...

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you setup workflows through webui and it'll remux and save the file out with that

dapper junco
edgy laurel
dapper junco
#

ah 😅

rich idol
#

does removing cmos battery reset all BIOS settings or does it only kill the clock?

pure garnet
#

both

rich idol
#

good

astral portal
pallid marsh
wise bear
#

fuck you mean bi

native adder
#

Anyone else getting this problem?

pallid marsh
brisk jolt
#

no because i update windows like once every like 2 months

pure garnet
#

@merry stirrup yeah i think a die was a good call, 8400c38 at 1.5vdd was insta dying :)

#

sanity testing this for a bit even though it's awful primaries

lone scarab
#

it failed? dont care

#

ignore

native adder
#

It did failed, not planning on doing a full restart because of this weird W11 updates.

#

But will it eventually get fixed somehow?

native adder
#

I mean, formatting the PC, doing a fresh install

lone scarab
#

that update aint even that important bro 🙏

pure garnet
#

didn't they pull that update

lone scarab
#

?

pure garnet
#

one of the recent ones got pulled

lone scarab
#

idk my pc is up to date

#

had it on pendign for last 7 days

#

holy typos

native adder
#

You're right! I was just concerned about being prevented from doing any other updates in the future. I heard 25H2 fixed some "issues". I guess I'll leave it as it is and see how it goes, now everything is running fine, no need to worry.

Is just that it is not normal to fail like this, but I tried so many things and it simply keeps failing

lone scarab
#

proceed to do your stuff

minor herald
vestal granite
#

why not tcl 30

minor herald
# vestal granite why not tcl 30

tcl is dealy in clocks
if you crank mhz it dose not realy change time it takes to do that task
so higher mhz=higher timing in clocks

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at and 8400 42 takes same time as tcl 30 at ddr5 6000

#

but tcl dose not realy matter much vs other timings

vestal granite
#

ok

minor herald
#

where you just joking or did you not understand?

vestal granite
#

you say you wonderi fa anyone going ask why not tcl 30 so i ask why not tcl 30

minor herald
brisk jolt
minor herald
livid flame
brisk jolt
livid flame
#

You upped the game

brisk jolt
#

im just jumping the game way above every component’s grade

merry stirrup
livid flame
#

Nah floppa. I’m with sets, let’s get this down to tcl 2

#

Elon can get it done. I believe.

topaz veldt
#

yawn

fervent elm
pseudo bane
#

@pure garnet @merry stirrup

#

I think it might be a borked aio

#

first time it has ever happened to me

tawdry hound
edgy laurel
# native adder Anyone else getting this problem?

No, my systems are updated well beyond that. Options: Reboot the PC (not shutdown) and try again. Still fails, use something to reset Windows Update (Chris Titus util has a button for it). Still fails, can consider a fresh install. Or, you could just ignore it.

topaz veldt
#

Welp boys, the China tariffs are over

frank zealot
#

1850 for a 9800x3d and 9070 XT GPU

steel stream
#

Todays mission: play as much Arc Raiders as possible while working remote

edgy laurel
#

jealous

steel stream
fringe vigil
#

It’s out today??

#

I thought 31st

steel stream
#

yeah it's the 30th jorj

fringe vigil
#

bruh

#

Everyone’s prob already max level now

steel stream
#

i don't think so

fringe vigil
#

Might get it

steel stream
#

i will def be getting it

edgy laurel
#

the one new map I saw looked sick

shell void
#

i wouldn’t call that over by any means

topaz veldt
#

The overall duties to 47% is not respective of the new, elevated tariffs

shell void
#

let’s go my fent will cost less LETSGO

topaz veldt
#

we have always had tariffs on china

shell void
#

the two that i care about are pork and electronics

#

i want cheaper bacon and monitors

topaz veldt
#

its coming

#

also wtf i just get my bacon from PA

#

Does anyone else Servarr here?

frank zealot
steel stream
fringe vigil
green marsh
topaz veldt
#

Got tired of a million audio tracks and subtitles

green marsh
#

And description says 128GB, but then it is too expensive for 128

topaz veldt
#

so now I kick sabnzbd to a folder that fileflows monitors, strips audio and subtitles, then moves back to completed folder, then radarr movies it to plex library

steel stream
#

oh damn, nice

#

Yeah some of my movies have like 20 subtitle tracks lol

topaz veldt
green marsh
#

Fine for me

topaz veldt
#

it sucks so bad last i checked, maybe I should check it again

topaz veldt
random flame
hoary hatch
#

At least not for decades

topaz veldt
green marsh
#

Can be same, can be different

random flame
# hoary hatch At least not for decades

Still interesting anyone's trying to go at that angle with a process I haven't even heard of before after having Bolt Graphics pop up earlier. Like, when's the last time anyone ever used X-ray's for lithography? It's just kinda surprising really.

topaz veldt
green marsh
topaz veldt
green marsh
random flame
topaz veldt
#

I use overseerr and such

#

so people can just one click bleep bloop

green marsh
topaz veldt
green marsh
#

It has scheduled monitoring, even inotify support i think

topaz veldt
#

I am trying to streamline like radarr brokers the thing, sab gets the thing, puts it in staging, something pulls audio and subtitles, then moves it to the directory radarr was monitoring, radarr moves it to plex library

shell void
random flame
#

Me neither, but it is interesting though that someone using it came out of the woodwork.

#

I actually kinda wanna see just how viable it is later on (if they survive long enough that is, lol).

bronze mango
#

Would I be crazy if I made my PC RGB run on an Arduino?

#

I can get such fine control

hoary hatch
# random flame Still interesting *anyone's* trying to go at that angle with a process I haven't...

Well I don't know the last time lol
In the litho space, ASML of course has a monopoly on EUV. ASML has the lion's share of DUV, with Nikon and Canon having slivers of that market.

I know China is rapidly developing their own litho tech but I don't think it's ready for volume fabrication yet.

Canon is looking into "nano imprint" as an alternative for photolithography, however, this is very much in R&D phase

#

There's a lot of monopolies in this space

#

ASML full monopoly on EUV litho
Japan has an effective monopoly on both the photo resist chemicals & the photo resist coater/developer tools

#

But then the American companies have the largest share of tools; specifically Applied Materials iirc

bronze mango
wise bear
arctic bronze
#

Did you see my bike posting

wise bear
#

I think so? idk i was tired yesterday and kinda zoned out with some halo

#

speaking of-

#

halo infinite hdr with everything cranked is so pretty

modest laurel
#

peeps, anybody knows whether google plays pc run in windows 11?

#

i google it and so far no luck, maybe someone here knows something about it

edgy laurel
#

i can't figure out what "google plays pc run in windows 11" means

modest laurel
#

my bad, Google plays games

#

i can't install a certain game, and can't really find out why on google

edgy laurel
#

Yes, it runs on Windows 11

wise bear
#

best easter egg in halo infinite tbh

#

it plays 8 bit variants of the halo soundtrack

#

my guy got tired playing and took a nap

#

they did decent on this model for the new handgun tbh

#

I love getting to rapid-tap on grunt heads with it

south shuttle
#

LOL

#

pretty sure it'd be cheaper for the us to continue using asml's EUV than developing their own by throwing hundreds of billions at it in order to speed up research

#

asml made sure their tech stays proprietary

brave panther
south shuttle
#

unless i guess they copy asml or break their patents

south shuttle
brave panther
#

same way you pay for asml's develpment

#

do you think it was freebie

south shuttle
#

well, atleast compared to rest of the industry AI

brave panther
south shuttle
#

considering how crucial their systems are they're not making half a trillion each year

charred lava
#

@edgy laurel flagged for being too new a domain

pure garnet
#

too new a domain?

edgy laurel
charred lava
pure garnet
#

interesting that a bot can do that honestly

edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

yeah i guess icann just has an api or something

edgy laurel
#

I get the "why is guilty being warshipped" treatment. something must be up 🤣

random flame
# south shuttle considering how crucial their systems are they're not making half a trillion eac...

I'm just gonna say that if there's anything to prove for them being cheaper, at the least if they think they can be competitive, I would think... Not with bleeding edge products, but for everything else that is supposed to be cheaper, like microcontrollers and such.

They are only just recently popping up now with a tall claim and I don't believe they'll ever get there (at all even in my opinion), but having alternative for simpler process nodes for equally simpler electronic device chips and whatnot... Would be fine to have, at least for those willing to try them out. I'm actually not expecting a ton of ground to be covered from them trying, but it would be interesting to see how far they'd actually get.

#

At the same time, I don't see it as a smart idea to claim they can "compete with ASML", though I wanna see whatever solution they've found in action regardless if they get far enough.

wise bear
#

this is such an op way to drive around lmao

south shuttle
#

tho

heavy mantle
#

like be fr its that ez

random flame
south shuttle
random flame
edgy laurel
south shuttle
#

yeah he wouldn't succeed, i mean what did everyone expect when he asked for tiktok to be sold to them without a reasonable alternative for the company

wise bear
#

giant, fuck-off explosions to flip the mammoths

edgy laurel
random flame
heavy mantle
#

other than media control there is no point tbh

random flame
#

His point was just security, which... Okay, but at that rate just cut them off entirely and deal with everyone being mad about it.

south shuttle
#

honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if the next topic he'll go on would be who owns the moon

#

claims*

random flame
#

Regardless, I don't see him trying to get ASML's trade secrets, rather than just their business getting a branch here at the least if he tried, and I'm still not against Substrate getting out there, even if their chances of being considered a real competitor to ASML is low.

#

I mean, look at China's attempts and they've been really slow, then they tried to shortcut around that by reverse engineering one of ASML's machines that they had... And it hilariously backfired.

#

And thus they had to send it back to the latter to get it fixed. Lmao.

heavy mantle
#

i mean i guess a forging company could possibly start by from the start like the intel 4004 days and try to follow up form there

vocal plume
heavy mantle
#

but by the time they achieve anything remarkable its going to be so out of date its not really a threat to asml for a longggg time

random flame
#

Well as far as the nerds over in the OLC community server see it, x-ray lithography has an extremely high potential for advanced nodes smaller than even EUV, just that... Substrate's new and this kind of process came late, so while EUV is only slowly improving, that's already pretty far ahead.

#

We're at 2 and close to 1.4nm pretty much with it. X-ray out of Substrate as of now... Can accomplish 13nm at the moment.

south shuttle
random flame
#

And that's without filling in the blanks on overall yield quality.

bitter shuttle
#

yeah am gonna do that am near a micro centre rn so will there be any better option there

heavy mantle
heavy mantle
#

and also going smaller and smaller means by the time a hard limit is hit, its then a matter to efficientize the art as how the 14nm on x299 between 7,9,10th gen was

random flame
lunar wedge
random flame
#

In fact, DDR6 and later might even have to move to 2T just to improve overall, so we're very much on the limits and closing fast.

heavy mantle
#

i mean within a matter of 10 years or so i think we would pretty much hit the cealing of how small we get

random flame
#

And theeen the next step will finally be to actually 3d stack stuff with true 2d designs per layer.

steel stream
#

we heard you liked 3D vcache, prepare for 3D CPU

heavy mantle
#

i mean by then its only a matter of perfecting the architecture as i said again, and not a race for how small it can get

#

but idk by then if dutch people will still speak or just turn into fish people hybrid

wise bear
#

iwhbyd really doin wonders this game

pure garnet
random flame
#

I will admit though, the bleeding edge stuff really needs to stay in all the actually bleeding edge sectors only. The trickle down is now really starting to become less financially viable to do at cost and they really need to figure that out, which is why I'm open to x-ray litho if the target is just to make a cheaper process or something.

steel stream
random flame
#

Then again, I'm still waiting for the glass substrate stuff to show us something actually promising.

pure garnet
#

kinda funny

steel stream
pure garnet
#

i haven't really noticed the loss in gaming perf at all

pseudo bane
#

yeahhhh babyyyyyyyy

#

fixed it

pure garnet
#

was it really just the aio?

pseudo bane
#

yep, apparently

#

now I'm in the market for a new Aio

#

my PC looks butt ugly right now

#

fuck man this termalright aio is so loud 😭

autumn rain
#

What size AIO? I’ve had decent luck with NZXT (although they are expensive and the company sucks) and be quiet!

pseudo bane
#

I was with ek

topaz veldt
#

Arc Raiders called me a cheater

steel stream
topaz veldt
pure garnet
topaz veldt
autumn rain
#

I have a be quiet! 280mm Pure Loop 3 and it’s pretty dang silent and it cools very well.

pseudo bane
green marsh
#

sometimes i wonder about people's component picks... this one has a G4560 in this

pseudo bane
#

I'm planning on getthing thermalright grand vision

steel stream
#

I will be playing it later, got busy with work

topaz veldt
#

a silver fox

pure garnet
#

im pushing my cpus glue today

pseudo bane
#

sad about my cr360

pure garnet
pseudo bane
#

it was a really really good aio in terms of performance

#

probably the best performing aio I've ever had

#

it managed to tame 300w no problem

fringe vigil
#

eva

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
#

Also keep in mind its extraction, so like tarkov if you die and don't extract, have to setup a kit again or use the free kit option

#

if you're downed, you can still hit the button for extraction which is a sweet mechanic

green marsh
#

someone is asking 20 euros for the 775 board with worst design + E8400 + 4GB RAM 😄

topaz veldt
#

also cool the has DLSS Transformer setting distinctly

edgy laurel
#

if i recall from the server slam weekend it specifically said DLSS4

#

also its UE5 but probably the best running of any modern UE5 game

topaz veldt
#

So if I am running this Dam level... is this like PvP?

#

like what is this lol

edgy laurel
#

PvPvE. You have quests to complete, a hideout back at base to upgrade and loot to get. When you join a run you have 30-40 minutes to loot and scoot. Other players will be doing the same and you can team up or kill them and take their shit

#

The Arc, the bots, are no pushovers and force you to deal with them or avoid them but you can't ignore them

topaz veldt
#

so if I hear gunfire thats real people or what

edgy laurel
#

most likely

#

and if you see a red flare go up, thats someone that was downed/knocked

topaz veldt
#

ok... so its kind of like... Division multiplayer all the time...ish?

edgy laurel
#

you know i thought about that, its a lot like the Dark Zone yeah

topaz veldt
#

ok i just fell off and died

edgy laurel
#

lol, nice

topaz veldt
#

ffs

#

so I guess I have to surrender?

edgy laurel
#

unless someone happens to come across you and use a defib, yeah. or if you can crawl to an extract in time

#

but neither are likely lol

#

you cant normally res people not on your team, but the defib is an item you can bring in or find and with that you can res other players (not in your squad)

topaz veldt
#

ok, a lot going on with this game

edgy laurel
#

your objective is ultimately just to get in, get loot, get out

topaz veldt
#

Are the lifts where i leave

edgy laurel
#

the crazy shit that happens along the way though

#

yeah

#

and they have timers. as you get nearer to the end of the round they will close till there is just one available

low sorrel
topaz veldt
#

I hear a loud ass banging from above me

edgy laurel
#

someone looting, maybe

#

solo the game is creepy

topaz veldt
#

many shots

edgy laurel
#

you ded

#

the ultimate decision. shoot on sight or try to team up

topaz veldt
#

I guess I need prox chat

edgy laurel
#

if you don't want to talk there is the radial menu with I think G

topaz veldt
#

oh word

#

gotta say

edgy laurel
#

with a bunch of things like "don't shoot" and "team up?" and it says them out like prox chat does, its pretty neat

topaz veldt
#

I dunno wtf im doing yet but the game is well done

edgy laurel
#

why its so hype, its really well put together

topaz veldt
#

wtf does this do

edgy laurel
#

wait till you come across some of the larger Arc bots

edgy laurel
#

that you can periodically claim to craft things

topaz veldt
#

so are these just different maps I can play?

edgy laurel
#

yeah

topaz veldt
#

theres no like... story?

edgy laurel
#

nope

#

other than the cinematics and intro

topaz veldt
#

wow ok that wasn't obvious

edgy laurel
#

try the practice range

#

to get a feel for things

#

oh wait, do you have to do 2 more rounds to unlock it

topaz veldt
#

oh ok

#

so can i only play 6 rounds? whats the 2/6

low sorrel
#

Can you res other players not in your team

edgy laurel
low sorrel
#

Oh man I feel really bad about what I did during the server slam

edgy laurel
low sorrel
#

I had a defib and I didn't figure out how to res other players not in my team

edgy laurel
#

it leads to some crazy situations where you start talking to someone you downed, or that downed you

#

and you decide to team up and extract lol

#

or get double crossed

tiny warren
#

what can be the problem

edgy laurel
#

you tell us

mild sandal
topaz veldt
#

I just blasted a dude and he ran away lol

tiny warren
#

@mild sandal

mild sandal
edgy laurel
tiny warren
low sorrel
#

I don't really like how the free loadout was kinda good

edgy laurel
tiny warren
topaz veldt
#

do people hear me breaching?

edgy laurel
low sorrel
#

Yes

mild sandal
tiny warren
#

no

#

i mean like smth is wrong here but idk why

edgy laurel
#

GTX 970 is from 2014, its 11 years old

steel stream
#

no it's old

tiny warren
#

i used to have arround 400 fps with optimizations

mild sandal
#

I'm sorry what now

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
tiny warren
low sorrel
#

any thing moves gets blasted in arc raiders

topaz veldt
mild sandal
edgy laurel
low sorrel
#

it's a bolty

edgy laurel
#

Ferro?

tiny warren
mild sandal
tiny warren
#

and is not an os problem cuz i did my own os

edgy laurel
#

what does that mean

low sorrel
#

what

tiny warren
low sorrel
#

what do you mean you did an os

tiny warren
#

i created

#

combination of alll os but safe

#

in development

edgy laurel
#

All i'm hearing is a whole lot of "I need help but I already know that the problem isn't this, this or this".

This is not how you get help. And now we're hearing that someone who can't troubleshoot a basic game performance issue apparently has the ability to "create an OS".

This is not going well.

topaz veldt
#

omg

#

someone dove in the elevator with me

edgy laurel
mild sandal
tiny warren
#

no like is strange cuz i had that problem before but now the fix i used then doesn t work anymore

#

and i am asking for help

topaz veldt
mild sandal
#

Wait, how do you even make an os?

edgy laurel
# topaz veldt that was scary af

I just hid in the bushes and rushed in as soon as the doors were closing screaming "don't shoot" in prox chat. Guy probably shit himself

tiny warren
#

file

low sorrel
#

I would've shot to steal the loot

edgy laurel
tiny warren
low sorrel
edgy laurel
#

even if you down him though he'll still extract with it

low sorrel
#

throw nades

teal orbit
edgy laurel
#

you can even call the elevator while downed, which leads to some really cool moments

#

haha i snagged it before you deleted it @topaz veldt

low sorrel
#

i saw that snail

low sorrel
#

same

mild sandal
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

hahaha

topaz veldt
#

Could I have shot him?

low sorrel
#

nah he would've lived

edgy laurel
#

I can see the panic in trying to hit the radial menu

topaz veldt
#

haha yes

low sorrel
#

the ferro is ass at close range

topaz veldt
#

the ferro is ass totally

#

Thats the guy I point blanked with ferro

edgy laurel
#

yeah ferro is like a musket lol

low sorrel
#

ferro is good against arcs

edgy laurel
#

it hits hard though

topaz veldt
#

I either missed or MF was suited up