tech-chat-2

[vestal granite]

yes you can dont listen to kyoko you can absolutely be mad about that

[pure garnet]

fr

why didn’t my 980ti have 22gb memory bro

[vocal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-quit-linus-tech-tips-ltt-linus-gif-25154720

[wise bear]

trump being a minecraft admin was hilarious

[pure garnet]

i want nvidia to strap $300 of vram to my 60 class card so it’s a $600 product that lasts slightly longer

[vocal plume]

Did he ban the villagers for being different

[wise bear]

he banned biden for xraying

[vocal plume]

The funny thing is they made a 12gb 60 class card for 30 series

[pure garnet]

well yeah because that’s how the bus was for that die

[vocal plume]

[pure garnet]

it was either 6 or 12 and 6 wasn’t enough

[vocal plume]

Didn't stop them from flooding the market with 6gb versions

[pure garnet]

there wasn’t a desktop 6gb model

[vocal plume]

Sorry that was the 3050.

[pure garnet]

the 3050 6gb is a 75w card so it’s more more for optiplexes and the like

doesn’t require external power

it’s not a great card but it has a niche

[heavy mantle]

The yeston one is so pretty

I mean its like a miniature 980ti with rtx

And slot powered

[pure garnet]

the 6gb is closer to a 970

[heavy mantle]

What

No? The 970 had 4

The 980ti had 6

[pure garnet]

the 8gb 3050 isn’t slot powered and performs similar to a 980ti

[heavy mantle]

And am pretty sure the 3050 lp the 6 gig one is a mobile die on a desktop pcb

[pure garnet]

the 6gb 3050 in slot powered and is a different die/slower so it performs more like a 970 in raster

[heavy mantle]

Hm yeah

But still bonker card for like a mini mini pc

Am just waiting till yeston or some other company to do the 5050 the same single slot design

And do the mobile die on desktop pcb route too

[shell void]

a slot powered 5050 with 12GB of GDDR7 would be cool

[heavy mantle]

I think they would do that but under the quadro series or ehatever they changed it

Like the a2000 but more vram and slot powered

[shell void]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-pro-2000-blackwell.c4330

[heavy mantle]

Opp

[shell void]

this is a slot powered 5060Ti 16GB

[heavy mantle]

Yeah so just slightly shave off the specs and make it idk rtx blackwell 1000 or something

[shell void]

now i wanna see a slot powered 5060Ti 24GB

[heavy mantle]

Huh

Why did that messge get flaged?

Oh that was a typo lmao

[heavy mantle]

I think there was rumours about smthn like thag

[brave panther]

i will prob buy
by "i" i mean my corpo will pay for it

i just need to convince hp to have it as a option when configuring z2 workstations

[topaz veldt]

how much-eth

[topaz veldt]

hrm

[slim solstice]

Server gpu?

[slim solstice]

Bros thinking to buy the gpu for his server

[brave panther]

workstation gpu

for cad and shit like that

[slim solstice]

How much vram?

[brave panther]

16

[slim solstice]

And some chineese people have found a way to add more ram to a gpu

[slim solstice]

Theres a server gpu that has 80gb I think

It does cost the cheapest mercedes

Or a tesla model 3

Wtf there's one with 288gb of vram

[brave panther]

you do not get it do you
you buy it bc it is certified for program you run

you do not need 80gb of vram for CAD

[slim solstice]

I know that

Also what's the minimum requirement for cad?

Im getting a free licence for a school tornament

It's called stem racing

[brave panther]

which one?

[slim solstice]

Sponsored by f1 themselves

[slim solstice]

Idk cuz it's a nationwide program I guess the cheapest one

You design a f1 car and then race it with other people

Is ddr3 fine for cad?

[brave panther]

cheapest is CAD aka "cardboard aided design"

[pure garnet]

you can run cad on whatever you have the patience to sit through

[brave panther]

cad is not that intensive, renedering of a object is

[frank zealot]

okay, this is super fuckin' niche, but also really pretty:
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-24-281-352r

2560x1920 res

[brave panther]

i think minisforum also have something like that

[wise bear]

needs a better resolution

[frank zealot]

I think it's pretty solid for a portable display

[frank zealot]

that's super different

[slim solstice]

2015 macbook pro running an optimised version of windows it's a core,i5 with 8gb ddr3 and a 256 gb samsung ssd partitioned equally for macos and windows dualboot

[slim solstice]

Is the lenovo one better?

It comes with more tools but it's 2k dollars

[frank zealot]

do you mean asus?

[slim solstice]

No lenovo

[frank zealot]

if you mean lenovo:
What lenovo

[brave panther]

next step is to put a ultrabook motherboard in it and make a laptop like that

[slim solstice]

Lenovo yoga book 9

[brave panther]

bezzel in the middle, same as minisforum display

[frank zealot]

that's a very very very different product

[slim solstice]

It comes with more shit tho

[slim solstice]

Same form factor tho

[frank zealot]

yes, but also probably not oled

[slim solstice]

It's oled.

[brave panther]

2x 13.3" OLED displays

[slim solstice]

Oh and the detachable keyboard if you put it on the laptop you get the keyboard in top and a virtual touchpad on the bottom and some notes thingy

And it comes with a cover that is also a stand

[frank zealot]

I mean, I don't know anything about the lenovo device, but it's also not a portable monitor, so IDK how exactly to compare

[slim solstice]

And im pretty sure if you put the keyboard in the bottom the screen will extend till the screen

[slim solstice]

Why carry 2 items when you can carry one

Woah you can play games with it using touch controls on the bottom side of the display

[frank zealot]

anyone buying a 1500$ folding portable oled monitor isn't going to be on a laptop using the hella-restricted hardware of something in a tablet formfactor

[tiny warren]

can anyone check https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1433160632651485244

[merry stirrup]

checked, looks stupid, no

a driver reinstall will reset in game settings is all i got

[frank zealot]

oh, huh:
https://www.techradar.com/pro/live/microsoft-down-major-outage-hits-azure-365-and-more-even-minecraft-affected

[low sorrel]

Please teams be down please teams be down

[frank zealot]

so far teams is up for me

sorry

[low sorrel]

Nooooo

[merry stirrup]

yeah teams is not down

[frank zealot]

Business Central, however, is hosed

(I don't use it, but I was getting questions about it)

[low sorrel]

Wait is PowerPoint down please be down

[frank zealot]

AWS may be having issues today, too.
But that may be MS dependencies instead:
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/live/aws-outage-october-2025

(isn't the cloud a fucking wonderful thing?)

[low sorrel]

We love the cloud

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-cloud-jon-lajoie-league-microsoft-pointing-gif-15424999

[lone scarab]

tf is google updater

shit started using 100% of my drive

game crashed and pc froze

usually its epic but it was google this time surprisingly

[frank zealot]

apply some lateral thought process to this phrase, and you will find your answer

[lone scarab]

i think google play

i dont use chrome

[slim solstice]

Oh man no wonder my dad's so stressed

[lone scarab]

but it didnt have to use 100% of my disc bro 😭

[slim solstice]

Servicenow has a lot of stuff in aws

[slim solstice]

Hello your computer has virus

[frank zealot]

a lot of things do, regularly. you just don't always notice.

[lone scarab]

how do i redeem the virus

[slim solstice]

You need to buy 50 giftcards from wallmart

And then you need to scratch the codes and tell me them

[lone scarab]

not so terrible that my whole pc freezes

[slim solstice]

Make sure to buy the 50 dolaar dollars ones

[lone scarab]

its just google updater and epic

never saw any other application affecting performance so much that i had to open task manager to check

[lone scarab]

oh

will i receive a call from josh from microsoft?

[slim solstice]

I have never heard a thing called google updater so get that shit destroyed and install avast free antivirus to destroy it completely then uninstall it if you value ur performance by the 1%

[slim solstice]

No it will be from alex

[lone scarab]

its updater for google play

[primal marlin]

Can i delete my "Program Files" and my "Program Files (x86) if i moved them to another drive I got them all on my windows drive and I want all my games to be on my 2tb ssd my F drive
Or will it break the pc or smth

[slim solstice]

Ohh

[lone scarab]

bro just told me to delete legit thing and install some malware installing antimalware

[slim solstice]

Are u still using the programs

[low sorrel]

why do you have google play on your pc

[lone scarab]

🙏

[lone scarab]

clash of clans

[slim solstice]

I have been using svrst free antivirus since 2017

[frank zealot]

What do you mean by "You moved them to another drive"

[lone scarab]

dont be mad i dont play

[slim solstice]

It's trustworthy and some websites use it

[primal marlin]

so i dragged them to my drive

so copy and pasted

[lone scarab]

oh ok

[primal marlin]

so i have the smae files in my C drive and my F drive

[lone scarab]

🙏

[slim solstice]

Do not delete them if you don't want a bad time

[green marsh]

so you never installed Google Chrome on your PC ever

[slim solstice]

I have

[frank zealot]

yeah, no, that'll be a sure fire way to blow your windows install the fuck up

[green marsh]

Then you have Google Updater

[slim solstice]

Infact like 10 times

[primal marlin]

wdym

[slim solstice]

Never seen it

[primal marlin]

how do i make sure my games are only on my F drive

[lone scarab]

its in task manager while updating anything related to google?

[slim solstice]

It just says update available

[frank zealot]

you can't just copy/paste system files to another location and nuke the originals.

[primal marlin]

I dont want them on my c drive

[lone scarab]

google aint updating all the time

[frank zealot]

too bad, they live there.

[lone scarab]

ok

[primal marlin]

I mean like

[lone scarab]

idk my google play updates on its own

[primal marlin]

I dont want all my games to go to my c drive

[slim solstice]

Delete the games form ur c drive if it's a cloud game then install to the desired direcotory

[slim solstice]

Why am I getting indian dad vibes form you

[frank zealot]

so, when you install games, tell them to install elsewhere

[primal marlin]

im 17 and british 😭

[frank zealot]

are you using steam?

[primal marlin]

oh

I think I know why nothing is downloading into my F drive

[frank zealot]

bri'ish

[merry stirrup]

he steals his games of course

[primal marlin]

theres nothing in there

[slim solstice]

F drive is usually a cd drive

Do you have a cd drive

[primal marlin]

no

[frank zealot]

are you high?

[slim solstice]

What?

[frank zealot]

drive letters are "not usually" anything.

[green marsh]

it's an executable, which at every logon and at 23:07 checks if your chrome can be updated, and if it can, it will. You probably have a fast internet, so you don't see it; on mom's 15Mbps internet it takes a while to download Chrome, so you can see it hogging the internet connection

[slim solstice]

Ok cuz all the pcs I got have the drive as f

[frank zealot]

are you installing the games from steam? or something else

[slim solstice]

Ic ic

I have 200mbps on a good day at the right time

[primal marlin]

IT was lunar client

but it wouldn't let me swap it over i think i figured out why im testing smth

[slim solstice]

Have a nice time in hell moving that

[merry stirrup]

so many

i’m trying to consolidate as much as i can

[frank zealot]

wait, let me do one more thing just out of spite:

[merry stirrup]

i don’t data hoard i mean i have 1.5tb storage and a 100gb file share

[primal marlin]

how much storage have you got bro what

[slim solstice]

Oh my god

[tiny warren]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1433160632651485244 please help

[merry stirrup]

no

[slim solstice]

What the hell

It's storage heaven

[frank zealot]

There ya go. H: Drive

[slim solstice]

Why do you have two usb drivrs that are either running Linux or macos or are corrupted and fucked

[frank zealot]

5.5TB SSDs, and a 4TB USB HDD

There's another 20TB HDD in another room

[slim solstice]

20 tb?

[slim solstice]

There's a 20tb one now

[slim solstice]

How big is ur linar client install

[green marsh]

i prefer to set my spare drives as A: and B:, for fun

[primal marlin]

2tb 100%

[primal marlin]

its all the mods i add

Because I'll have mods for 1.8.9 1.21+ etc so

[green marsh]

i mean, who has floppy drives these drives, there is no reason to avoid A: and B:

[frank zealot]

at one point I wanted to try to build a multi-TB USB Thumb Drive RAID, but it didn't work out

[slim solstice]

Sadge

[primal marlin]

is the "Power On Hours" does that mean how long my pc hjas been on

[slim solstice]

How long the drive has been on

[frank zealot]

how long that drive has been run

[slim solstice]

Jinx hehe

[green marsh]

also switch raw values to decimal, will make more sense

[primal marlin]

where

[green marsh]

for an SSD, power on hours do not mean much, data written is more important

[green marsh]

will look like this then

[primal marlin]

ight ty

[primal marlin]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-5G-YuanLey-NIC-Controller-Low-Profile/dp/B0F13BQ7MG?crid=LXT9ZTAY1VFW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Gw0q2NqHci0iFi7if95IX8-hheLE0syQAE4xSNP1qbpjKHcnPwSYTt6EQGllFaXnf90tUqNufh1UHdqgTvLYa2c8kORf6mAQfpVF68kSymUlbumgZ-uWPEnJL6Xo1uZWI7EfW0LPP0x6_TzE4Cfy82uaL3tISPwRIWY6FW5rnFwG0LHpuWosjkbvpUNE0UsIgHvr6ppbVaVrrYocXtUqxC-GI08j27Q3-VoR09kYrsg.XhUcDvj4D_9RkTCh5Wfn3gk6PJqwL5DFQWG3pu9bMTQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=pcie%2Bethernet%2Badapter&qid=1761764610&sprefix=pcie%2Bethern%2Caps%2C1264&sr=8-11&th=1

is this a good Pcie ethernet adapter

my ethernet port is broke i think

[gloomy vault]

yea

ethernet adapters dont stray far apart if youre only using it for a network connection

[green marsh]

if i have to guess, 512GB SSDs would probably have 300 TBW usually, so that Kingston drive is 1/3 used

[primal marlin]

Will I see a difference if I use a usb to ethernet adapter compared to a pcie

[green marsh]

Realtek or Intel 2.5Gbe is probably no difference

[green marsh]

PCIe one will have lower CPU usage

[merry stirrup]

explosions

[gloomy vault]

yea the one in the amazon listing claims to be a realtek so it will be fine

i personally use a mellanox though

[green marsh]

that was obvious, RTL8125B is realtek chip. For sub-50 euros, you can get Realtek 10Gbe on Aliexpress

[primal marlin]

do i just remove the 2nd one down

[gloomy vault]

you can get X540-T2's for like $15 lmao

[primal marlin]

and then plug in

[green marsh]

power usage and ASPM difference

[merry stirrup]

how many watts

is it small enough to fit on one hand

[gloomy vault]

if youre just using it for an internet connection is it really an issue

[green marsh]

you plug it into this and remove the bracket for that slot, 2nd down from the GPU

[gloomy vault]

obviously you have to check pcie lane compatibility though

[primal marlin]

ye ight ty

[gloomy vault]

x540-t2's are x8

[green marsh]

X540-T2 was making a lot of heat in my home server

[primal marlin]

what even is this

[gloomy vault]

yea theyre pretty meh but theyre cheap though so

[green marsh]

vs

€46.21 to be precise

[gloomy vault]

some slots are marketed as X16 but only function electrically at x4

so you have to check

[primal marlin]

where

[merry stirrup]

he doesnt

[primal marlin]

oh

[merry stirrup]

in this case since he only has an x1

just make sure you get an x1 card

[green marsh]

also the 8125 card is x1

[gloomy vault]

yea its an x1 so any open slot works

[topaz veldt]

I am a little sad

[merry stirrup]

yo shit explode?

[topaz veldt]

nah, I de-hard tubed my GPU today

[gloomy vault]

connectx-3's are really cheap too

like $15 too lmao

[merry stirrup]

ahh

[topaz veldt]

EPDM'd so I can swap CPUs easier

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[tiny warren]

can anyone help me When gpu is a bit solicitated it gives black screen no signal

[merry stirrup]

makes sense its smarter

solicitated

[tiny warren]

can anyone help me

[primal marlin]

I have a question some of yall in here said my "stand off screws" broke my ethernet if i bought that Pcie ethernet adapter would it still not work or will it bc idk if its standoff screws or my ethernet port since it doesnt even pick up the ethernet in device manager or anything

[gloomy vault]

connectx-3 pro for like $15
connectx-4 100g for like $60

[topaz veldt]

Little more industrial look also

[gloomy vault]

they deffo work too my friend resells them lmao

[green marsh]

i have one in my server, but still, if someone wants new new and not used stock, 8127 is an option.
Also 15 euros ? Pffft. See my Ali coupon magic back in mid-2024

[gloomy vault]

buys them for $15 sells them for $40

[gloomy vault]

yea esp if they only have an open x1

[primal marlin]

anyone got any idea?

[green marsh]

they mean your motherboard got shorted where the ethernet chip was, probably killing the chip. But the ethernet card will be connected to PCIe slot, it will have nothing with the original network chip

[primal marlin]

oh ight ty

[gloomy vault]

my bad about USD$13 converted without a voucher

[primal marlin]

all i need is a black Pcie card idc about the rest

[gloomy vault]

with a voucher theyre like $3

[primal marlin]

and it needs to be "small"

[green marsh]

also i ordered one with 1 meter cable and they sent one with 3 meter one

[gloomy vault]

nice them mellanox nics are amazing

might get a connectx-4 just for the win11 driver support ngl

[tiny warren]

can anyone help me When gpu is a bit solicitated it gives black screen no signal

[green marsh]

i still wonder why do i do dumb Ali purchases

[gloomy vault]

cuz its cheap as shit

x99 build for like $100

[green marsh]

1.5 euros this power/reset button thingy

[gloomy vault]

sketchy parts but nonetheless

[slim solstice]

Is that a tpm module

[gloomy vault]

fpanel button

so he dosent need to short pins

[slim solstice]

What's that

Ohh ic ic

[wise bear]

the front panel buttons

[slim solstice]

Yeah I see

[gloomy vault]

yea aliexpress does wonders

5*8g TF7 for $1

[green marsh]

this, but on single PCB

[gloomy vault]

i have this lmao

[green marsh]

also still can't believe i managed to get DDR4-3466 working on 2950x

[gloomy vault]

silicon lottery on imc ig

[tiny warren]

can anyone help me When gpu is a bit solicitated it gives black screen no signal

[gloomy vault]

you can post it in https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424 or just go to a dedicated support server

[green marsh]

ironically, no. With b-die, it was unstable above DDR4-3000

[tiny warren]

like

[gloomy vault]

dang and with some other kit of ram it runs stable on anta777?

is it on like some horrible timings

[green marsh]

3200CL16 kit at 3466CL16

[gloomy vault]

thats good for x399

[low sorrel]

is this budget @merry stirrup

[gloomy vault]

still too expensive for me to blow up without a warranty lmao

[merry stirrup]

no

[merry stirrup]

not particularly insane

[gloomy vault]

X299's are way cheaper with the 7980XE

[merry stirrup]

bdie is just heavy on the imc

[random flame]

Of course he chooses to try saying it that way. Lmao.

[merry stirrup]

compared to mfr or whateve rit is you have

[gloomy vault]

o didnt know that i dont own b die unfortunately

i own a kit of CJR

and a crap ton of E die

[merry stirrup]

i have a lot of ddr4 surprisingly

i have micron rev d garbage
some rev.e
some rev.b
some djr
some cjr
and some bdie

[topaz veldt]

Anyone active have a 5090 here?

oh, doh - never mind lol

[merry stirrup]

no we're poor

[topaz veldt]

oh stop lol

[merry stirrup]

anyone else here with 9133 mem?

oh nevermind hehehe

[merry stirrup]

its TRUE

[vocal plume]

holy shit floopie and floppa

[gloomy vault]

i daily a kit of 4400C20 CJR on 4200C16

[merry stirrup]

(i totally dont spend 5090 money basically every month on pc parts)

[vocal plume]

siblings

[merry stirrup]

is it the neo forza shit

[random flame]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[gloomy vault]

nope

[merry stirrup]

what is

[gloomy vault]

some chinese brand lmao

[topaz veldt]

I need someone to run Furmark to sanity check something

[merry stirrup]

what do you know about a 3400 bin

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/169/1536045773/F4-3400C16D-16GSXW-EOL

[merry stirrup]

ahh

[topaz veldt]

I just re-PTM'd my 5090 TUF OC while I had it apart. In that fiasco over the weekend I put duronaut on it

[gloomy vault]

this looks like shit ngl

[merry stirrup]

wdym its bdie

[topaz veldt]

uhh?

[vagrant cargo]

Just looked it up me not been able to see my advanced recovery menu and also bios is down to my projector I think my new 4k 32 inch monitor arrives tomorrow or Thursday hopefully

[gloomy vault]

probably b die considering 3400 c16

[topaz veldt]

3400 CL16 looks like shit?

[merry stirrup]

3400 flat 16's even 😭

[gloomy vault]

the camo thing

[merry stirrup]

oh it looks fine irl

more white than grey

[topaz veldt]

16's was always the differentiator for B-die on Gskill. My buddy had 16-19-19 and was listing it as B die

[gloomy vault]

seems really tacky

[merry stirrup]

it just depends on the speed and such

theres 3200 16 shit that is definitely not bdie

but 3200 c14 is bdie

[topaz veldt]

well 16-19-19 from Gskill isn't bdie

that was always the thing

[merry stirrup]

any odd bin you see is probably bdie

3333, 3400,3466

[topaz veldt]

I guess this is working well - I was a little concerned by the rate at which the temps got to 50C initially

[green marsh]

for "enable XMP profile, change the clock from 3200 to 3466" it is a good result. Haven't touched any voltages etc

[merry stirrup]

60c seems good

[merry stirrup]

i would be more concerned that you havent touched any voltages

[topaz veldt]

Yeah its fine - I just didn't remember it going like a rocket from 28C to 48C

[merry stirrup]

especially on old fragile amd

vsoc prolly like 1.35 or some bullshit

[merry stirrup]

ah

probably something to do with its phase change properties

[green marsh]

if it dies, it dies. It is a 2950x 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant cargo]

Personally pc wise I want to see more themed pc cases sold separately from pre builts abd also and also I want i stead of glass on side of pc case to hsve one big led screen that isnt transparent connect that to wallpaper engine or put gifs or images on it and Instantly can theme my pc tbh been considering with my new hyte y70 case making the screen on it also down the side but bigger

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

[green marsh]

but let me boot and see if i can see these

[slim pebble]

I get to about 61 an hour into playing Expedition 33

[merry stirrup]

why yo shit look weird

this guys a linux enjoyer

[slim pebble]

Linux.

[merry stirrup]

fake task manager individual

[gloomy vault]

i dont see my pc anyways its in a different room

[slim pebble]

Mission Control app

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats not really a parallel - I am trying to see how fast it ramps in Furmark, but I have the other system

[merry stirrup]

this all i got

[pure garnet]

need 285k

[merry stirrup]

i thought you said

[pure garnet]

20 cores is simply not enough

[merry stirrup]

yesterday

[pure garnet]

yeah im not buying one

[gloomy vault]

vanilla shit

[pure garnet]

a girl can dream though

[gloomy vault]

on a crappy laptop till my 13900K gets back

[merry stirrup]

DID IT EXPLODE

[pure garnet]

why did you shut off the e cores

[gloomy vault]

yup!

my 13900K has blown up

[merry stirrup]

why must you leave it on stock settings

[gloomy vault]

nah i did vccio at like some stupid voltage

[merry stirrup]

oh you like really killed it

[gloomy vault]

and killed the mem controller

[pure garnet]

turning the 10 core chip into a dual core is quite the choice

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah i cooked mine earlier

[topaz veldt]

Am I doing this right?

[merry stirrup]

1.6v vddio

[gloomy vault]

cuz its thermal paste is doo doo

[gloomy vault]

yea and intel is ghosting me 😭

[merry stirrup]

or it was 1.55 tx that did it

[merry stirrup]

lol ur getting a replacement

[gloomy vault]

i might just get a 14900KS

[pure garnet]

floppa saw me kill my cpu and had to twin

now he done stole my whole pc

[topaz veldt]

I am thinking of getting another 14900K/KS ans Z790 Apex

[merry stirrup]

i still have mpower

[gloomy vault]

yea theyre really check now

[merry stirrup]

cheap? no

[gloomy vault]

i can find the apex encore for like $450

[merry stirrup]

both of those things are like 500 bones

[green marsh]

if VDDCR_SOC is SOC Voltage, then it is 1.12V

[gloomy vault]

i mean for what they are

[merry stirrup]

crazy

[gloomy vault]

oyea arent you running the taichi OCF that board is sick

[merry stirrup]

up to like i think its 1.25 is fine if you ever want to try and give it more juice

[pure garnet]

offended

[merry stirrup]

yeah

9133MT/s C42

[pure garnet]

imagine

[merry stirrup]

imagine

[gloomy vault]

yea fuck trade ins theyre worse than lowballers

[pure garnet]

looks wrong seeing it so low

[gloomy vault]

dang wtf they aint them new ram things that have the clock driver built in right

[green marsh]

trade-in was never worth the used market value, ever

[pure garnet]

do you think they'll check @merry stirrup

[shell void]

direct die 14900ks calls to you

[pure garnet]

selling my valorant unstable 7800x3d to newegg to bin a new 265k

master gambit

[slim pebble]

You already sold the best 14900K bin most people will ever see 😆

[low sorrel]

How unstable exactly

[topaz veldt]

I know, stop reminding me

[topaz veldt]

You ever know an alcoholic single mother from the Hamptons?

[pure garnet]

tbh i haven’t tested it outside of the tomahawk

but with my tomahawk and that cpu it was not stable

wasn’t failing stresses but was failing being a computer

[low sorrel]

Can I buy it instead :p

[pure garnet]

i mean

yeah i guess so

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt did you play the BR at all?

I watched Shroud play for like 15 minutes. Maybe not enough time but man, I try not to make these sorta comparisons but it sure felt like a slower movement Warzone with tanks.

[low sorrel]

Oh wait I forgot about shipping and tax

Nevermind

That's probably like only 100 bucks less then like getting it from AliExpress

Oh not even its like 250 usd from aliexpress

[low sorrel]

That's exactly what it is

[topaz veldt]

Not I have not

Its ESPECIALLY slower than Warzone my dude

Right now from what I have seen its only Duos and Quads

So until they get solos I am out, but that said, the movement in BF6 is slow the game play is generally slower, I know thats OK and different, but in BR that doesn't really jive

Is this a Windows 25H2 thing? I do slideshow to not burn in... this is nice

@merry stirrup I am literally watching the PTM7950 cure/setup

I turn fans and pumps down to like 600 RPM and watching Furmark hit 70

let it ride there for like 5 mins

then i blast fans and pumps to 100% and bring it down to 55C

then do it again and brings it down to 52C

and then 48C....

[edgy laurel]

Changing to the next wallpaper in slideshow mode? I think thats been a thing forever

[topaz veldt]

so weird I never noticed it

[edgy laurel]

yeah it definitely has been, I feel like I recall using that in Vista lol

[topaz veldt]

ok thats offensive now

[edgy laurel]

haha

[edgy laurel]

Yeah.. which.. I have a hard time seeing who the playerbase of that will be long term

the BF hardcores don't necessarily want a BR

[pure garnet]

isn't the br setup to almost force you to buy the game

[topaz veldt]

And the BR'ers don't want BF6 gameplay

[pure garnet]

like all the weapon unlocks are really awful until you buy the game to do other modes

[topaz veldt]

thats every BR

[edgy laurel]

some people are really upset that they put a bunch of seasonal objectives in that can only be completed in the BR

[topaz veldt]

IMHO BF6 needs to figure out what its trying to be

[edgy laurel]

watching Shroud trying to slide cancel around was painful

[random flame]

Oi, @odd sable, ya saw this recently?
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/removing-obfuscation-in-java-edition

[odd sable]

yes

[edgy laurel]

is that link not loading for anyone else? i'm blaming the MS outages

[random flame]

I'm honestly surprised they just did that.

[topaz veldt]

no load here

eventually loaded

[odd sable]

TLDR: they aren't going to be obfuscating the jar anymore, helps modders mostly

[random flame]

Yeah... Which is surprising, since I never expected MS to be that open with such an idea.

Though then again, they have bugrock, so...

[topaz veldt]

I have avoided MC Java Edition entirely because my son wants 1471489124124 mods and I don't feel like learning another thing

[random flame]

Lmao!

[topaz veldt]

(he's 7 and won't be able to sort it out just yet)

[odd sable]

it just now got to happen, doesn't mean they didn't want to have it happen before

[edgy laurel]

its a slippery slope, but there are "packs"

[topaz veldt]

I know I know but

let me share with you where we've already gone

[odd sable]

its not that bad

[topaz veldt]

it is

[edgy laurel]

trust me it is if you're completely unfamililar

[odd sable]

note: i mod MCJE, as in, i write mods for it

[random flame]

I'm sure they wanted it to for a long time, but just never really got there till now.,

[topaz veldt]

You're not 7 😉

[edgy laurel]

I get told to just download Curseforge

[odd sable]

imagine downloading mods

just make them yourself, ez

[random flame]

I mean, they even gave modders obsfucation mappings before, so it was a sign they wanted to go that direction.

[topaz veldt]

the problem is he runs on servers so it persists across devices... this is where we've got to

Sooo now explain to him why XYZ can't play MC Java

[random flame]

And one that particularly hard too from what I can tell.
That certain Vulkan render mod... For NeoForge of all things.

[topaz veldt]

"Billy said he can't join the server with me" .... "OK try now, the container needed an update..."

[random flame]

For the longest time, I never even could imagine anyone making one for anything Forge based.

[random flame]

That's... A ton of allocated memory to each of those. Damn.

[brave panther]

i never had such issue, but my server was vanilla paper mc

[topaz veldt]

yeah you never had to orchestrate like 5-6 7 y/o's and their parents joining from ipads, MBPs, PCs, and Xbox lol

[brave panther]

yea fuck that, java on pc only

[odd sable]

does bedrock run on mac?

[topaz veldt]

The 60-ish GB is because I don't put a reservation/limit on the non-java containers

[odd sable]

i thought only MCJE ran on mac

[topaz veldt]

ipad

[random flame]

Hmmm...

[topaz veldt]

so now, enter the confusion

[odd sable]

MBPs
i assumed macbook pro with this

[topaz veldt]

"Wait I need Java? or I need bedrock on my Apple?"

OK so is it an ipad or a macbook

"uh its an ipad" "ok you can play in the servers for Bedrock"

[random flame]

Well, at least 5nail has an excuse for this. Lol.

[brave panther]

iwatch

[topaz veldt]

My son: "But dad I just made a thing in the java one, can Bill play?" "No bud, Bill has an ipad..."

[odd sable]

and now i wanna just go back into my hole of making things appear on screen

[topaz veldt]

Random but say what you will about EK... their fucking distro plates bleed so much faster than others

[random flame]

Mmm... I have no real say about their plates myself, so I'll take your word for it.

[odd sable]

FWIW, im part of the Neo team, soooooo some bias exists

[random flame]

Ah.

Meanwhile, I only recently decided to at least dabble a bit to understand mods and their inner workings because maybe I might try it if anything.
Catch is, Iiiii don't know which one to start with: Forge, Neo, Fabric, or Quilt.
Sure as hell can't just go jumping into something like Spigot, Paper, or such, but I'm not entirely sure which one's worth learning with first.

[odd sable]

Spigot/Paper are server-side plugin things

[low sorrel]

Fabric my goat

[odd sable]

for Forge/Neo, 1.20.1 and below use Forge, 1.21.1 and above use Neo
Quilt is basically dead too afaik

[random flame]

Wellchuffed stands by that kind of statement too. Lmao.

[odd sable]

Fabric, its a thing

i dont have much comment on Fabric, but ive also not used it much

[random flame]

Oh, they are? That's news to me.

[odd sable]

i might be wrong, i dont pay much attention to Fabric or Quilt

[low sorrel]

Fabric is lightweight forge with less mods

[odd sable]

the most ive used Fabric for is Cinnabar, which touches a system that is minimally modified by Neo, and what parts of it are touched, is largely my own doing

[odd sable]

no its not

Fabric is an entirely different loader, and does a lot of things very differently

[low sorrel]

Lightweight *compared to forge

[wraith steeple]

[odd sable]

yesn't, its more complicated than that

[random flame]

Hmmm...

[topaz veldt]

ya'll are speaking some other shit

[random flame]

Pretty sure that is the case.

Both Forge and Fabric are rather similar in terms of resource usage really.

[frank zealot]

FINALLY:
The vendor figured out how to put a static IP on their own fucking boxes to get them internet on the DMZ.

(Like I fucking told them they had to do all along)

[random flame]

The difference is the level of modification either one allows from what I've ever heard and Fabric just goes... Deeper than Forge does, or at least that's what I recall being told about it.

Does it make it better? Not necessarily?

[odd sable]

both allow you to do coremods

and Neo actually does source patching, while fabric doesnt

[frank zealot]

one of these fuckin' things, so there's no useful human interface to do shit, and they had to flash the firmware to fix the settings:

[odd sable]

so if anything, Neo is the one that goes deeper

however, most mods that do very heavy coremodding are done on fabric, because generally the modloader itself is touching less stuff

[random flame]

It's comparable to basically Vulkan vs OGL. The former is powerful and taps hardware better than the latter, but incredibly complex because of the level it's at and always in your face about it, while the latter is great for a lot of things and easier, even if it can't do as much as the former.

You can do a lot with either one and get great performance out of both. It's just the level you want to do it at and what you need.

[heavy mantle]

This is so cute 😂

I think I interrupted the convo mb

[random flame]

Is it the same comparison? Also... Not really? But... It's kind of what I understood for a while.

[odd sable]

afaik, the loaders aren't particularly different (in terms of resource usage)
the API/frameworks built on top are, but what Neo does is because mods need to cooperate with eachother, and needs to exist when you have hundreds of mods in play

[random flame]

Well it is an adorable interruption admittedly.

[odd sable]

OpenGL ... easier
its not easier, not when you try and get it to run on everything

its easier to get it to work on your machine, harder to get it to work on everyone else's machine

[random flame]

That honestly sounds like a lot of programs though when you start out. It works on your own well, but then it's strange entanglement of confusion for everyone else's setups.

[odd sable]

FWIW, this is a real function in MC, sacrificeShaderToOpenGlAndAmd

that should give you a clue about the bullshit that is getting OpenGL to work right

[random flame]

B o i .

[odd sable]

and in case you think im joking, heres the mojmap file, go ahead and search for that
https://piston-data.mojang.com/v1/objects/7e62354a697f95cf5e7d5981face0583676a9ef7/client.txt

GraphicsWorkarounds is also a class that exists

and theres also needsMesaWorkaround

some of the things OpenGL drivers do and dont do is wild, and absolutely not easier than VK

[random flame]

m a n . . .

Okay... Sooo anyway (just not to get sidetracked...)

I know you already mentioned the ones above, but lets say going off of builds now where Mojang is removing all obfuscation and I decide to do something on the current versions, for someone learning to mod would you recommend standard Forge, NeoForge, or Fabric for that?

[odd sable]

dont use LForge, consider it dead for new versions

theres a reason Neo forked from it

between Neo and Fabric, both are fine

in either case, you know Java already, right?

[random flame]

Mmmmm I'm going say yesn't... Since in some limited sense I can understand what some functions are supposed to do, but of course I was not really learning Java before specifically.

[odd sable]

do you know any programming language?

[random flame]

It was C, C++, and Lua that I was learning in fact... And still haven't touched base with that in a while either.

[odd sable]

if you can write C++, you can learn the differences to Java as you go

the main thing is that you need to know how to program in the first place

too many people try to learn how to program with Java by modding MC, and thats a bad idea

[random flame]

Even as a tiny side project that does very little in game at all?

[slim pebble]

That’s a really good loop temp!

[wise bear]

w h a t.

fuck you ea

[pure garnet]

i love mtx

it brings me joy paying more money for my $70 game

[odd sable]

maybe it depends on what you want to do

simple things area easy enough to do, but MC is not an easy codebase to work with

and neither modloader does much to help that

[random flame]

Fair point.

[odd sable]

The 💰 intent 💰 is 💰 to 💰 provide 💰 players 💰 with 💰 a 💰 sense 💰 of 💰 pride 💰 and 💰 accomplishment 💰 for 💰 unlocking 💰 different 💰 heroes.

im not going to put the full quote, because wall of text, but still, point made

[whole coral]

My god. Black River, Jamaica is destroyed

[spiral quarry]

good old EA move lol

[wise bear]

turns out its just for the free-to-play thing

I thought it was part of bf6

[topaz veldt]

ya

[green marsh]

also BF always had boost packs which makes you gain XP faster. But that's about the maximum they sell you

[merry stirrup]

no lol

[merry stirrup]

no theyre 2 year old a die

[merry stirrup]

lol thats honestly kinda neat

just had to replace 6 kiosks at work

annoyingness

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-spongebob-gif-4342001532833315013

[topaz veldt]

It really is

@fringe vigil

[shell void]

pp

[shell void]

goofy lookin puter

[merry stirrup]

yeah but thats not the worst part

the sysadmin before me/my boss filled them all with resin

[brave panther]

lmao why

water resistance?

[merry stirrup]

dude

your guess is as good as mine

[brave panther]

did they also fill ports with resin?

[merry stirrup]

theres no water in the warehouse (none thats a problem) and if there is we have so many more problems than the computers

[merry stirrup]

no but i have already broke a tool trying to open one

and i even googled it, im doing it right

i even threw the fucker on the ground like 3 times

[fringe vigil]

Nice fans

I like pahntkes

[topaz veldt]

I'm replacing all 9800X3D fans with G2s

[wraith steeple]

[spiral quarry]

👀 noctua

[steel stream]

like in the build?

[slim pebble]

Does it help to stress a new PTM application like this, or is it something you are just testing?

[pure garnet]

ptm takes a couple heatcycles to fully settle

so it gets better after you break it in

[merry stirrup]

no but doing the heat cycles earlier is always cool

[topaz veldt]

It does help, it will happen naturally, but I don't want to wait

[steel stream]

nice

[topaz veldt]

hm?

[steel stream]

nvm, long day

[topaz veldt]

Right after PTM7950 on my 5090 TUF OC today, I launched furmark and hit went like.... 29C..... 42C..46C...56C...62C....

Now after cycling it a few times at like 65-70C, it's doing this

you can see how it just gradually rises into 52C vs spiking hardcore

thats the PTM7950 flowed out vs not

[wise bear]

[topaz veldt]

EPDM er'where

[wise bear]

epdm best soft tubing

[topaz veldt]

Honestly for maintenance I don't regret

[wise bear]

isn't epdm the same stuff they use in automotive tubing

[topaz veldt]

sometimes, not always

[edgy laurel]

this is satisfying as hell (can't link just the video) https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/1oiy0we/this_robot_drawing_an_engine_blueprint/

[wise bear]

hwat

I'm assuming this is a misreport

[pure garnet]

iirc boost clocks count as >100% or something

[wise bear]

huh, neat

[slim pebble]

Nice! All soft tubing now

[topaz veldt]

except for rad to distro

[slim pebble]

Enjoy being able to take it apart some without draining everything

[topaz veldt]

yeah mostly

@edgy laurel OK I have the coolest setup...

9950X3D mode - USB DAC, superlight 2, neo65 in wireless (dongle) mode, 321URX HDMI1

Macbook Pro mode - BT AudioEngine HD6 (no switch needed, always active), MX Master 4, neo65 BT mode, 321URX USB-C

[edgy laurel]

so you just switch the keyboard mode with a switch on it?

[topaz veldt]

Switch KB (FN+Esc) and switch monitor to USB-C

[edgy laurel]

Huh, I wonder if you can switch inputs with this software.. https://www.msi.com/support/technical_details/MNT_SW_MSI_Preloaded_Software

[topaz veldt]

USB-C does PD so just one cable into MBP

[merry stirrup]

made an oopsies

[edgy laurel]

but then how would you switch back again nevermind..

[topaz veldt]

You can but I don't like shit running like that

[edgy laurel]

yeah thats fair, I wouldn't either

[topaz veldt]

switching the monitor input is pretty simple

[edgy laurel]

but thats slick. now you just need to introduce a second monitor like its 2025 😆

[topaz veldt]

lol i have 3 monitors on this desk

I prob have borderline adhd so one monitor is more than enough

[pure garnet]

it'll probably still work unless im missing the obvious capacitor missing

[merry stirrup]

you are

shits broken broken

[pure garnet]

can you circle it im stupid

[pure garnet]

nvm i found it

[merry stirrup]

no you’re bo to blind

[pure garnet]

this?

[edgy laurel]

if people ping me and I have to alt-tab out of something to see discord i'd go mad

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

get out the iron bro

[merry stirrup]

i’m not doing allat

i don’t even know where it went

[topaz veldt]

I just disable notifications

[merry stirrup]

i dropped it taking it out of the slot a whole like 8 inches and it popped off somewhere

[pure garnet]

is that the 9133 sticks

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

oof

[topaz veldt]

wompity

[merry stirrup]

it’s just a die it’s nothing insane i swear lol

[topaz veldt]

Well I'll have you know my 6000 CL26 A-Die doesn't do 9000 so

[pure garnet]

if it was the god bin sticks i'd be crying

[merry stirrup]

i’m sure i’ll be okay

plenty of 9K adie results

[pure garnet]

i got my screenshot

it died the second i hit start in karhu

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-shy-kermit-terrified-scared-gif-3186014724530266078

[merry stirrup]

yeah, 9133 hasn’t decided to work since i put it in the case so i figured i maybe rocked the dimms and i gave em a clean and must’ve caught it with the paper towel or it broke off when it fell

[wraith steeple]

[tiny warren]

I got big bit problem When my gpu is forced by graphic intense games my pc turns black with no signal and won t go away except u forcefully shut down

[topaz veldt]

There are plenty of Koenigseggs posted on instagram but none of them are min

[pure garnet]

none of us own computers here

[merry stirrup]

snail i promise it will be fine quit being negative about everything 😭💀

i will bezos bin to do 9133 again, i dont care

[topaz veldt]

So... I have the fastest memory again in LTT, thanks!

[tiny warren]

I got big bit problem When my gpu is forced by graphic intense games my pc turns black with no signal and won t go away except u forcefully shut down how to fix

[pure garnet]

floppa will just go to best buy™ and get more a die

[merry stirrup]

no best buy™ adie is 200$ i discussed this already smh

[pure garnet]

buy another computer

[tiny warren]

that s what i did

[pure garnet]

return it then

[tiny warren]

i did with components

i don t buy prebuilds

[pure garnet]

sounds like user error

[shell void]

until i slam 1.75vdd to run 6400cl24

(i will not be doing that)

[tiny warren]

when u tweak ur own handmade pc is smth else

[merry stirrup]

you are welcome for making an honest mistake brother snail

[tiny warren]

no need to buy a pre build pc tweak it and u get performance as an handmade pc

[shell void]

you wouldnt happen to need memory now would you

[pure garnet]

it doesn't sound the performance of yours is that fire champ if it aint working

[merry stirrup]

is it 8K+ and gskill?

and adie

[shell void]

yes no no

[pure garnet]

that patriot scam kit will still be unstable in the ocf bro

[merry stirrup]

yeah i don’t want it

[tiny warren]

pleaseh help https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1433239809605894256

[merry stirrup]

it’s not a die

[shell void]

hey now man i reliably post 8000cl36 1.4vdd on it

i think urs was just borked

[pure garnet]

michael if i lived anywhere closer to you

i would stop by, put it in my ocf, and show you it not working

not a single xmp profile on mine could pass karhu

[shell void]

ill have you know this specific kit was recommended to me by an intel shill overclocker that dailies a 285k on an ocf

[merry stirrup]

jesus why is adie priced the same as h24

[pure garnet]

first time opening pcpp this week?

ram prices went sky high

[merry stirrup]

alright scam kit or gskill

[shell void]

i have good adie but it's 2r and you cant have it

[hoary hatch]

Which ones the scam kit

[merry stirrup]

top

[pure garnet]

gskill (im a gskill shill)

[hoary hatch]

That's my ram

[merry stirrup]

it works right

[shell void]

yeah carter has been running that on his z890 tomahawk for a while xd

[merry stirrup]

wait guys think about it

ram is commonly not working

bezos binning is going to work great.

[hoary hatch]

$30 less when I got it

But mines been fine

[merry stirrup]

10$ more on amazon what an L

[hoary hatch]

Too much effort

[pure garnet]

doesn't brother krum have patriot xtreme

[merry stirrup]

best buy wouldn’t do me this way

[shell void]

this is the kit that kyoko doubts

[pure garnet]

justbuy it from b&h closed everytime you want to order

[merry stirrup]

well if someone is gonna try to profit off it and say they have the fastest memory

[pure garnet]

well at minimum my kit was not it

[merry stirrup]

bro i can’t amazon prime it

alright new option

can i prime the gskills

[pure garnet]

u should get godbins smile

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DD2HV83N

[merry stirrup]

i can in fact prime the gskills

[pure garnet]

gskill twins?

yours is binned worse than mine tho!!!!

[merry stirrup]

godbins are only binned on tcl it’s not that impressive

[hoary hatch]

Yep. Was a good price too.

[pure garnet]

i have those timings at 1.35v on m die

[merry stirrup]

you can have godbins and have a kit that still sucks at trcd

[merry stirrup]

if it’s mdie i’m ending it

like h16m

[pure garnet]

i don't think h16m does 8000

i thought it fell over and died at like 6800

[merry stirrup]

barely

i saw someone doing a z890 mdie 8k setup

[pure garnet]

i mean it is a 1.45v profile

[merry stirrup]

he said it barely got to 8k but it works at 8k

[wraith steeple]

I'm doing an LGR thing soon

[merry stirrup]

do i get the white dimms or the black dimms for the dimms that are going to be naked anyways

[pure garnet]

whatevers cheaper

[merry stirrup]

(pcb is black on both)

[pure garnet]

i have black if you wanna twin for a bit though

[merry stirrup]

same price but can’t prime the white so

freaking 240$

[pure garnet]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F4M6C65N i have these

[merry stirrup]

yeah it’s the same price so i’m considering it but idk

[pure garnet]

no it's 270

i impluse bought ram at a good time

[merry stirrup]

30 whole dollars

[pure garnet]

damn i shoulda went lower on mpower if you got motion like that

[pure garnet]

you can't buy this kit anymore btw

@merry stirrup im thinking of buy a 225f for my master but if it has a better imc than my 265k i'd cry

6+4 cpu

[tiny warren]

i need help please someone come https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1433239809605894256

[pure garnet]

buy new pc bro u broke it

[merry stirrup]

locked cpu can’t change sa

[pure garnet]

yeah it'd just be to have it working

it's $170 on amazon

or i could just sell the master and put the 12900ks back in

12900ks + 4070 is a respectable pairing for a 2nd pc

[merry stirrup]

there’s no cpu working at 9k+ at like, 1v sa

[pure garnet]

the tpu review sample might

[merry stirrup]

that’s true actually

[pure garnet]

homie got that sp98 just sitting there

[merry stirrup]

so mdie or adie final verdict

[pure garnet]

h24m? i don't think you'd care for it that much

you need a ton of voltage to drop cl and it doesn't really seem to clock that much higher anymore

[merry stirrup]

i was told it tops out higher and may be lighter on imc

but idk

i’ll see i’ll just buy the gskill stuff

the h16a

[pure garnet]

wait is there no voltage 8000 kits for a die

that's wild

[merry stirrup]

no low voltage

mdie kits have higher tcl typically tho

40 or 42

[pure garnet]

i have cl38 at 1.35v

so in theory it's of the better h24m kits

the only thing above it is 8200c40 1.35v on pcpp

[merry stirrup]

aight it’s on the way

[shell void]

idk why youd want adie for arrowlake anyway

who cares if youre getting 170ns trfc instead of 120ns

[merry stirrup]

me

[shell void]

you can delay it hella

[merry stirrup]

i just bought adie

[shell void]

131k go brrrr

[merry stirrup]

that requires naked dimms with a fan/low volts like 1.4 w fan

snail was having problems at like 46c

my nakeds don’t get up that high but that’s pretty low

[shell void]

time to pickup a $1 aliexpress metal bracket to mount a 120mm fan directly ontop of the ram

[merry stirrup]

link

[shell void]

the one i bought isnt stocked anymore https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804339070598.html

youre prolly looking at $2-5 now instead of $1 because of the removal of de minimis

i got mine mid 2024

[pure garnet]

buying waterblock to run register limit refi

the ocf is smart enough to set trefi high on xmp so im kinda impressed with that

[hoary hatch]

@merry stirrup is my 1.45V kit gonna die

[pure garnet]

wdym

if you're just running xmp the trefi is so low you could probably run a hair dryer over the sticks and it'd still pass karhu

[hoary hatch]

Words

I know what all those words mean

[merry stirrup]

no. some wouldn’t pass xmp apparently. no different than corsair

[hoary hatch]

Yes running 1.45v 8200 CL38 XMP with Intel 200S manual settings

[pure garnet]

i sent a die away for free right in the memory price crisis

[merry stirrup]

coulda sold it to me for a million dollars

[pure garnet]

i should've sent off the other h24m kit in hindsight

bro a die and 12700k would've made a free mpower i missed out

[hoary hatch]

I shoulda bought the cheapest 64gb kit I could find before the ram price bs

[merry stirrup]

you have 48 tho you’re fine

[pure garnet]

at the same time i also sent like 1.75vdd into the first h24m kit i have so i don't trust it for 24/7 wife pc operation

[merry stirrup]

i bought another 22 lol

*32

[pure garnet]

h11a

[merry stirrup]

i hope the new pcb and higher bin will give me above 9133

but i would be happy if 9133 wanted to work again lol

[pure garnet]

i should try 10000 g4

[merry stirrup]

sad cause i don’t know if cleaning my sticks and the slot helped now

[pure garnet]

since gear 2 8600 is probably my best stable bet

[merry stirrup]

i kinda do, it wouldn’t boot 9266 in the second slot

i cleaned the dimms and slot and it booted with 1 dimm at 9266 but i cant test two

sadge

seems it’s all signal integrity though so i hope better pcb will help

[pure garnet]

did you peel the memory oc shield off yet

[merry stirrup]

no i’m not gonna yet

don’t entice me

[merry stirrup]

idk if 10k g4 is gonna be faster lol

i’m not sure

[pure garnet]

faster no but

it looks cool

[merry stirrup]

i did see ryzen chips do 10K so i feel as though we should have no worries

/j

[pseudo bane]

am i going insane but does upgrading to win 11 fuck everything OC wise?

[shell void]

no

[merry stirrup]

no it doesn’t do anything oc wise

w11 can’t make your oc unstable unless you were unstable to begin with

[pseudo bane]

my optimizations are gone, not it thermal throttles

[merry stirrup]

what

[shell void]

what do you have again? 13600k or somethin?

[pseudo bane]

the OC was bullet proof, negative offset of 0.05, max p core ratio of 5.1

[pseudo bane]

12900k

[pure garnet]

negative offset of 0.05?

[merry stirrup]

is 5.1 all core even faster than stock

[pseudo bane]

it doesn't even respect the cache frequency I set it to

[merry stirrup]

5 millivolt offset

[pure garnet]

i thought 5.2 was stock

[merry stirrup]

disable virtualization

[merry stirrup]

try reinstalling

[pseudo bane]

VBS?

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pseudo bane]

that's couple of cores

[fringe vigil]

yo eva

[pseudo bane]

hello jorj

[pure garnet]

granted i had the ks but no mine just did 5227 on every p core

with the 5.5 2c boost or whatever

[merry stirrup]

damn that is wild

alder lake was crap

[pure garnet]

i never tried actually overclocking that chip but my 13700k was only 100mhz faster

[pseudo bane]

shit though, I don't understand how it can just instantly rocket into thermal throttling

very wird

weird*

I just repasted it just now as well

[pure garnet]

do you have a pl2 set

[pseudo bane]

like pl2 voltage?

[pure garnet]

wattage

[pseudo bane]

Shit Id have to double check in bios

[pure garnet]

just open hwinfo

[pseudo bane]

unless there's a faster way with XTU?

which value specifically

[pure garnet]

pl2

[pseudo bane]

limits removed on mine

[pure garnet]

well yeah that's why it's throttling then

it will pull as much power as it can

[pseudo bane]

which setting in the bios would change the limit?

apologies for all the questions, I've been out of the hobby for a while

[merry stirrup]

i think the KS is 5.6 all core

[pseudo bane]

I really regret buying asus, their bios sucks ass man 😭

why is everything renamed to some random BS

[pure garnet]

long duration power limit or something

it should just be labeled pl2

[topaz veldt]

@merry stirrup why not measure capacitance on a neighboring cap and then pull one off a sacrificial memory kit and spend the $50 on a hot air setup

[pseudo bane]

it won't be labelled as PL2 because asus

[pure garnet]

i would check but my asus board is in my closet

long duration package power limit

[topaz veldt]

It's the long duration package limit

[pure garnet]

253w is a good number, 241w is stock for that chip

[merry stirrup]

i just spent 240$

[pure garnet]

okay but do 5nails thing anyway it's way cooler

i'll pay for the mpower rn fr fr

[merry stirrup]

i can see

to me it compromises the sticks anyways having to do repairs on them

[topaz veldt]

Nah not at all

They were soldered prior

[merry stirrup]

i’ll play with my new sticks tomorrow and at some point i’ll try to fix the 9133 certified

[shell void]

i wonder if X970E boards will still be using the same Promontory 21 chipset as X670E

[topaz veldt]

Yup

[pure garnet]

it's amd bro it will be

they'll find a way to release 14 more am4 cpus too

[topaz veldt]

Nothing new

[pure garnet]

3.2ghz 5200x3d

[merry stirrup]

i like this

[fringe vigil]

my name jeff

[merry stirrup]

(please stop)

[topaz veldt]

3MB cache 7325X3D

[merry stirrup]

if i don’t do it i will send them to you and you can profit off semi binned a die

[topaz veldt]

It's 1/2 CCD

[pseudo bane]

Fucking asus man

[merry stirrup]

binned enough to do 9133 42 anyways

[shell void]

95% of overclockers prefer asus uefi

[merry stirrup]

yes

[topaz veldt]

I'm not into it but I have a lot of random caps in boxes of RAM so I just fix em

[pseudo bane]

I prefer gigglebytes

[pure garnet]

insane

[merry stirrup]

fair

[pseudo bane]

Back when i was tweaking with my 11600k

[shell void]

asus pisses me off too tbh i like the new msi uefi