tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

don’t go into debt for video games

[civic reef]

I am not an adult with bills

[merry stirrup]

(although we are waiting for the refresh)

[topaz veldt]

If you check the RAM stuff you will see guys running faster on 265s

[civic reef]

I still have some money leftover from each payment not including daily school allowance which I save

[merry stirrup]

yeah i saw a couple 9400 results

idk if thats an imc thing tho i think we'll have to figure it out

[topaz veldt]

Yeah for some reason the architecture of the missing tiles on 265 let it run higher freq

[merry stirrup]

interesting

[pure garnet]

yeah 1.5 didn’t do anything floppa

i need to mess with the actual voltages probably

[merry stirrup]

stewpid

[topaz veldt]

I think if I had nudie DIMMs I could run higher

[merry stirrup]

real board time /j

[civic reef]

It's a 121 down payment, then 25 dollars a month, leaves 5 dollars minus allowance savings, I am still in the green relatively

[merry stirrup]

just peachy

[topaz veldt]

I am also wondering the diff on 16 vs 24

I am going to swap RAM from X870E Apex and load your timings

[merry stirrup]

okie

[thick goblet]

Hey, I'm just wondering why my PC shuts down and my fans just go nuts whenever I'm playing for like 15 minutes

it also says that my cpu fans arent spinning

[merry stirrup]

well are your cpu fans spinning

[thick goblet]

I have nzxt cooling - so probably no

[merry stirrup]

so are you actually going to answer my question or tell me something youre assuming

look at your computer do your fans spin on the cpu cooler when you do anything

[pure garnet]

the imc just straight up ignored my primaries lmfao

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

booted in caca timings

[merry stirrup]

different z890 experiences for everyone

8200 40-54 isnt that bad in all reality

[pure garnet]

i put in vdd to shoot for 36

[thick goblet]

i dont have cpu fan

[merry stirrup]

oh bruh

[pure garnet]

i put in 36-48-48-128

it booted that instead

[frank zealot]

IDK what exactly these control, but they be bougie as fuck

[thick goblet]

are these normal when im idle

[wise bear]

yes

[pure garnet]

new record for arrow lake

[thick goblet]

my pc is literally in my window and its still overheating

ive cleaned it

updated drivers, thermal paste

[frank zealot]

when is it overheating

[pure garnet]

can you try to be funny

30c, no fan

[thick goblet]

whenever I'm playing a game like arma 3 (modded)

[frank zealot]

what is your CPU and what is your cooler

also: define overheating

what temps are you hitting

[thick goblet]

screen goes black, fans go crazy

[merry stirrup]

no when i had thermal paste in my dimm slot i failed 7800

[frank zealot]

that doesn't always mean overheating

[thick goblet]

could it be my psu

[merry stirrup]

i have him ignored its not worth it

[frank zealot]

could be any number of things

[pure garnet]

i think these sticks just aren’t 8200 champions

it’s my 6400 1.35v kit

[merry stirrup]

well ur at 36-48

[frank zealot]

Step 1: Download and install HWInfo64

Step 2: Download Cinebench R23

Step 3: Run HWInfo Sensors and watch CPU Temps while running Cinebench Multi-Core test for a full run

[merry stirrup]

did you try 38-48 or 36-50?

[pure garnet]

trying 38 rn

[thick goblet]

alright thanks

[pure garnet]

38 made it further

probably need more vdd for 36

[merry stirrup]

tcl usually needs 100mv for bigger steps

[pure garnet]

i’m on h24m so dropping cl probably not worth

iirc the steps get wider

[merry stirrup]

another 20 minutes and we're good

[topaz veldt]

@merry stirrupthere is something fundamentally different between h16m and h24m in power

[merry stirrup]

h16a not m

[topaz veldt]

thats what i meant

[merry stirrup]

hm okay ig ill have to buy myself a kit here soon

[topaz veldt]

ah wait nm

it didnt save my freq

[merry stirrup]

can you see if ur h16a tops out at a lower stable(at least enough to make an assumption) than h24m on the same chip/board

[topaz veldt]

yeah trying now

[merry stirrup]

people sayin that to me online

ex i can do 9133 rn so maybe h24m can do 9400

[topaz veldt]

its possible

[merry stirrup]

i can see that being true i just want to know before i go buy h24 😭

im not going to buy a somewhat worse ic if it doesnt do anything better than h16a

[topaz veldt]

yeah im not totally convinced on h24m

but also we're apples to orange a bit because 265k vs 285k

[merry stirrup]

its definitely better if you need a daily that has more capcity than 32gb

[topaz veldt]

yeah at the sake of lower bw

[merry stirrup]

yeah but at the same time if it applies to a 285k id assume the same would apply to a 265k

not comparing against but you have more means of data for me

[topaz veldt]

i just tried to boot my h16a 9133 with your settings and it wont post

[merry stirrup]

😭 oh boy

[topaz veldt]

could be my dimms tho

[merry stirrup]

thats fair

you have no idea how excited i was today to wake up and see my mem test still running @ 9133

[topaz veldt]

oh i know it lol i have thad those moments

one thing you're in for is when you tune ring/ngu/d2d

it kinda fucks up mem oc

[merry stirrup]

im going to reset my profile to do t hat and then try and combine

like u would gpu clocking

[turbid locust]

H24M can’t do as low timings afaik but generally can achieve similar speeds between both ICs iirc

[topaz veldt]

yeah - theres that cold boot d2d setting in asus which helps me

[merry stirrup]

when i get about to do ing it

[merry stirrup]

same in here, just named different, freakin asrock

[topaz veldt]

oh ok

[merry stirrup]

asrock says my cpu is an 83 btw

[topaz veldt]

yeah its not the same scale

because my 265k in this was like an sp60 or something

the SP is not equal across models

[merry stirrup]

yeah and brandos

[topaz veldt]

yeah brands especially

[merry stirrup]

although i hope i have a decent chip

i forgot to look at vid. next time im in bios ill ss it

[topaz veldt]

asus has a 9000 a-die preset, trying that

[merry stirrup]

dude asrock is nuts

theres an 8800 preset and thats the lowest it goes

8800 up to 9600 g2 presets

[topaz veldt]

asus has a 9600 lol

[pure garnet]

i don’t think i even have presets

[merry stirrup]

gigabutt

[pure garnet]

clutches my 10gb nic

[merry stirrup]

ive got a weird 5gbit thing

oh, this board has dual bios and its user switchable

my reaction upon learning that was audible

[pure garnet]

i don’t know the actual intended consumer of the master but why would i buy the aorus elite for like $50 less

[merry stirrup]

lol

[topaz veldt]

yeah my kit doesnt like 9000

[merry stirrup]

damnnn

[topaz veldt]

fails in 5 secs

[merry stirrup]

thats sadness

[turbid locust]

god kit?

[merry stirrup]

h24s

[pure garnet]

i need a 1dpc board on one of my platforms this is dire

[topaz veldt]

nah

[turbid locust]

oh lol

[topaz veldt]

my h24m's run 9133. my h16a 6000 cl26 kit doesnt like 9000

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-gif-9435864923799777590

[turbid locust]

wtf

[merry stirrup]

@turbid locust

[raven citrus]

Damnit

[turbid locust]

you know my rule

it’s not real until 12 hours Karhu

[merry stirrup]

ive had the board for 18 bro

[pure garnet]

can you send me the 4.1.7 tc

i spent like 40 minutes on the asrock web page and got rate limited before i found it

[merry stirrup]

& this

[turbid locust]

kek

[merry stirrup]

so funny story thats a kvm and idk if we gettin that far

[pure garnet]

later/sometime

[merry stirrup]

this allegedly has file transfer

[turbid locust]

Whenever MSI actually decides to release the B850M Mpower… 10K soon…

[merry stirrup]

no let me use my new thing

[pure garnet]

i’m about to shut my pc off and leave for work so

[turbid locust]

assuming my H16A kit plays nicer than 5nail’s

[topaz veldt]

@pure garnet i DM'd can send asrock tc

[merry stirrup]

oh ok cool cause no yueah the file transfer does not work

[pure garnet]

everyone playing with 9000 meanwhile im doing z790 apex numbers

[merry stirrup]

nah even ive seen z790 apex at 8600

[pure garnet]

maybe i sell the 4070 for an ocf

[merry stirrup]

329 is a good price bro i wont hold you

[pure garnet]

🥀 265k+6700xt

[merry stirrup]

sell the 6700xt and pay the difference out of pocket it will not be that large

[pure garnet]

who tf wants a 6700xt

[merry stirrup]

then sell old board

[merry stirrup]

budget newbs

[pure garnet]

also no box for it

i used my 6700xt box to ship my 3080

[merry stirrup]

face book marketplace list for 180$

call it good

[pure garnet]

i’ll just list both

whichever sells sells ig

[merry stirrup]

whatever sells first

i fw this idea

[pure garnet]

go to sleep tomahawk and it bugs out

maybe i save up for an x870e apex instead lmfao

[merry stirrup]

theres a gene in hwbot for 400$

[heavy spire]

Oh nice, looks like you got a solid start with those sticks

[merry stirrup]

in my opinion thats cooler and its cheaper, so

[pure garnet]

that doesn’t seem like much of a deal

[merry stirrup]

its an apex but small

and a rare af board

[pure garnet]

we’ll see if it keeps acting up

if it do maybe i just return x3d and buy z890 apex for $600

[merry stirrup]

my bad its eu anyways

[pure garnet]

450 euro

i doubt it’s even cheaper then yeah

[steel stream]

RIP, G5 was meant to come today but now it's coming on the 31st

[merry stirrup]

nah

[pure garnet]

~520+ international shipping

+customs

[merry stirrup]

i thoughttt it was in the statess im sorry

i cconsidered that with a 9800x3d tho

[pure garnet]

assuming there’s no am5 ocf

[merry stirrup]

nah

actually yes there is

[topaz veldt]

they were like $700

[merry stirrup]

my point^

[topaz veldt]

X870E Apex is bangin

[merry stirrup]

and only like athousand of them or something

not many made for sure lol

[topaz veldt]

They said theres so few Genes but somehow ebay china has like 9999

[merry stirrup]

lol

[topaz veldt]

all the DDR5 waterblocks suck

[merry stirrup]

i havent looked into any since i dont custom wc yet

[wraith steeple]

Oh the TUF blocks from HK finally dropped

[topaz veldt]

Not sure on the looks

[pure garnet]

x870e apex is kinda appealing but ocf is cheaper so makes more sense

guess i have to decide if the x3d is worth over 265k

[wraith steeple]

Oh damn it doesn't have the six ports like the EU exclusive AIB blocks have

[merry stirrup]

furthering

[wraith steeple]

That stings a bit. I wonder if it's due to the design

[merry stirrup]

oh my god look at my 12v rail

[topaz veldt]

end ports are great for horizontal mount

[pure garnet]

do you have a car battery

[merry stirrup]

bro what the fuck

[topaz veldt]

uhhh lol

[pure garnet]

that has to be a misreport right

[topaz veldt]

turn your alternator off

[merry stirrup]

well im going to assume so

[pure garnet]

2v swings 💀

[topaz veldt]

i dunno i'd get a MM on that one

[merry stirrup]

5v at .5v wouldnt allow the system to turn on

[topaz veldt]

no wonder it runs so well lol

[merry stirrup]

lol yeah i will when im hopme

idgaf ill run it till im home i have a warranty

wasnt me i didnt do anything

[pure garnet]

14v is the sauce

[topaz veldt]

bro got lithium ion upgrade

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately this thing sucks and doesnt have 2 voltage readouts for 12v

so we wont know until im home lol

2 hours

[heavy spire]

Prob lacks support for that mb, most of those values are wack

[merry stirrup]

yeah lets hope bro

[pure garnet]

floppa coming home to a pile of ash

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

i’m waiting till you get home before i think about the ocf

[merry stirrup]

lol yeah ill mm it then

[topaz veldt]

ocf for which

[merry stirrup]

guys theres other ocfs that dont do that

lord maybe i should turn this off

[topaz veldt]

or maybe its hwinfo version

[merry stirrup]

true hollon

[topaz veldt]

but yeah maybe shut 'er down for now

[heavy spire]

Yeh, your hwinfo is almost 2 years old

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[heavy spire]

7.69 is like december 2023 or something

[topaz veldt]

you can see 12v from BIOS also yah?

[merry stirrup]

oh true lets do that

yeah i think im fine

reasonable! i feel better now lol

[heavy spire]

Odd numbered hwinfo versions are beta versions aswell iirc

[merry stirrup]

okaaay back to stress testing this

[topaz veldt]

floppa waht gpu is in there

[merry stirrup]

5070ti, why?

[topaz veldt]

So... i ran my 9000 tune for like 7 hours last night in karhu

thats usually stable

Fire up BF6.... directx crashes

[merry stirrup]

oh interesting

[topaz veldt]

try and play a game after all of this

[merry stirrup]

okie

[topaz veldt]

my CPU is 100% stock settings

[merry stirrup]

i assume its no different than fabric so that makes sense to be honest with you

amd cpus have the hardest time maintaining stability when in game

[heavy spire]

3D apps can cause extra stress, definitely worth testing out yeh

[topaz veldt]

yeah the dynamics can be rough

[merry stirrup]

non variable loads are easy for the fabric to handle

[merry stirrup]

this does not mean stress test with video games whoever else comes by and reads this

[topaz veldt]

BF6 is especially hard on shit I have found - trying Warzone now

[heavy spire]

Running large FFTs + 3D workload is a nice way to figure out if your fclk is stable on AMD, shit just breaks down after a few minutes if its not

[merry stirrup]

test speed is getting to a decent spot finally

[topaz veldt]

warzone is fine so far

[merry stirrup]

what do i get for lunch today

i had chicken sandwich yesterday

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-freddy-got-fingered-sandwich-eating-high-gif-15279185

[turbid locust]

exclusively testing my ram tunes with Valorant now

[pallid marsh]

@low sorrel found that out last night playing BF6 with his 4000 ram

[merry stirrup]

😭

[heavy spire]

KGuiX is nice if you want to keep track of that without mousing over it

[merry stirrup]

i know, kgui broke a while ago on this os so i dont care

bench os gets neglected due to lack of web browser or internet, i dont care to update anything on it besides benchmate

[topaz veldt]

I just bench in production

[pure garnet]

leaning toward z890

[merry stirrup]

now that its validated not to allow 14v on the 12v rail to turn on

im gonna get home and mm it and its gonna be 14v

[green marsh]

as DE prices threadripper combos are absurd low, i decided to put in my spare GPU into it. Very unbalanced, 2950x + x399 taichi + 64GB RAM + RX580 8GB 😄

[merry stirrup]

so good sofar

[merry stirrup]

makes a big difference for hwbot scores and since i actually care it maatters to me

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I just prefer to hwbot on the machines I run, it makes more realistic for me

Like my cars - I could go all out and have a crazy track car out of my green car, but I want to still be able to drive it to the grocery store

[merry stirrup]

yeah i am more into the comp side of it

[raven citrus]

how overclock intergrated graphics

[merry stirrup]

you dont

[raven citrus]

i must get more gaming performance

[topaz veldt]

lol my igpu did whack shit when I was leaning on the CPU

[merry stirrup]

do you also think that overclocking is going to give you 60fps in every game

[pure garnet]

the best overclock for integrated graphics is buying a gpu

[raven citrus]

1% lows increase by having a set mhz

[raven citrus]

l a p t o p

[merry stirrup]

wow a discernable amount of performance cause youre limited via memory bandwidth

[merry stirrup]

buy a new laptop then

[pure garnet]

https://jobs.mchire.com

[raven citrus]

the gpu core clock keeps dipping low

[merry stirrup]

thats called a power limit

[pure garnet]

you got like a 30w power budget it’s just not gonna go anywhere

[merry stirrup]

my condolences

[raven citrus]

thermals arent limited so im wondering if there is away to possibly push it

[merry stirrup]

a very small chance

what chip is it

[raven citrus]

its a ryzen 7 5700u

[merry stirrup]

yeah i think ur stuck at 25w

[raven citrus]

undervolt maybe?

[merry stirrup]

cant do that either

[raven citrus]

damnit 💔

[frank zealot]

laptop cpu's you don't get to mess with generally.

[raven citrus]

oh well its fast enough otherwise

it was in a electronic recyling bin because the screens broke

[frank zealot]

unless you pick up a super-enthusiast tier laptop, you're not gonna get to mess with it much

[thick goblet]

I’m thinking it’s my psu, is this normal? The one cable isn’t connected to the others

[merry stirrup]

yes thats normal

[frank zealot]

yes that's normal

those are 6+2 8 pins

[thick goblet]

Alright

[frank zealot]

because some GPUs use 6 pin:

[thick goblet]

Whenever I play a game that requires power, it just goes black and my fans go full boost mode after like 15 minutes

[frank zealot]

did you do the cinebench test like I told you to

[thick goblet]

Have I over clocked my pc and that it has affected it

[thick goblet]

I had to go to the store

Im just cleaning my pc

[frank zealot]

stop asking questions until you've done the troubleshooting you've been told to

nobody can try to riddle out your problems without more info, and that info comes from troubleshooting

[topaz veldt]

@merry stirrup so G.Skill doesn't use any pads/putty between PMIC and heatsink....

[merry stirrup]

this is true

[pure garnet]

my ripjaws just had foam

[topaz veldt]

So in my X870E Apex the mem doesn't go over like 42C, despite 8000 CL32 w/ 1.6vdd 1.56 vddq

[merry stirrup]

well the dimms draw probably no more than 5.5w in an x870 system

[topaz veldt]

6.0 - 6.6W

[merry stirrup]

interesting

[topaz veldt]

He's got a T30 point at him though

[pure garnet]

bz said it was like 10c cooler on amd at some point

just baby imc moment

[topaz veldt]

now to find some ram blocks that won't leak all over my system

[heavy spire]

Will be fun when AMD moves over to a new IMC next gen, a lot of people will find themselves scratching their heads wondering why stuff isnt stable with their old settings

Assuming the new one is an actual IMC that is

[pure garnet]

or won’t boot even

[heavy spire]

Or 2x IMCs like its rumored

[raven citrus]

guys where do i download ram

[pallid marsh]

Get the weeb block

[merry stirrup]

bestbuy

[raven citrus]

also @merry stirrup should i buy a screen replacement for this laptop since it was literally free

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-cl-w271-pl12sw-a/p/1YF-001G-002F8?item=9SIA8EFF219076&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-_-liquid %2F water cooling-_-thermaltake-_-9SIA8EFF219076&source=region&srsltid=AfmBOoraUkGy3AcLhKWgHQ2I7ATuVuwtXoLmviWszMalO2IFrGjN6Xn9OVU

buy this and put it on mem only

[pure garnet]

you sponsored or something

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats why i only get free garbage

[raven citrus]

love free garbage too

[merry stirrup]

my garbage is better than yours, L

[topaz veldt]

thats fake cooling

[thick goblet]

before and after

[raven citrus]

okay i dont get this why is it that when i have my laptop plugged into a external display i loose half o f my fps

[merry stirrup]

mux

[frank zealot]

find the temperatures

not the speeds

[pure garnet]

isn’t it like a vega 8

it probably barely has enough eus for the displays

[heavy spire]

Different resolution?

[raven citrus]

its the same resolution

[frank zealot]

does your laptop have one or two gpu's?

[raven citrus]

Radeon Graphics 512SP

[pure garnet]

it’s a 5700u igpu

[merry stirrup]

so one

[raven citrus]

yes

[heavy spire]

Do you run both displays at the same time?

[raven citrus]

yes but its running as same display

like mirroring

[pure garnet]

you’re wasting gpu use to do that

[raven citrus]

so how should i do it then because the actual screen on the laptop is broken

[pure garnet]

show only on 2

[merry stirrup]

"show only on screen X"

or unplug the display fron the laptop

[heavy spire]

Idk what the power budget is on that thing, but sounds like it doesnt have enough to run both at the same time without sacrificing performance

[merry stirrup]

probably not btw

[merry stirrup]

25w

[raven citrus]

its a lenovo ideapad 3 slim

[pure garnet]

it’s got 8 cus either way it’s not going anywhere

[raven citrus]

and i literally got it from a electronic recylying bin

[merry stirrup]

i wonder hwy

[heavy spire]

Right, so if it takes 5-10w to run one display you'll just lose performance

[raven citrus]

screen was broke 💔

its a external powered display

[low sorrel]

shush

[merry stirrup]

face palm

[low sorrel]

also my keyboard finally came this shit was so much heavier then i thought

[raven citrus]

okay running the second display only increased my fps from 30-35 to 35-40

[frank zealot]

I've got a dumb question:

If the onboard screen is dead, how do you know that plugging in the external costgs you half the fps?

[low sorrel]

it's 5 fucking pounds

[raven citrus]

so made some difference

[thick goblet]

my bad

[pure garnet]

brass weight ?

[raven citrus]

half of the screen is dead

so the left half of it kinda works but barely

[merry stirrup]

what type of dead

[raven citrus]

lemem just send a video

[low sorrel]

it's 6063 aluimum chassis apparienty

like fully

[merry stirrup]

broken or just not showing anythigng

[pure garnet]

floppa i’m thinking return 9800x3d

[merry stirrup]

OCF OCF OCF

[pure garnet]

and buy the ocf yeah

[merry stirrup]

oh my god we're gonna twin so hard

[pure garnet]

because that’s still like +$120 in pocket

[merry stirrup]

same case board and cpu

jerry muted for the morbillionth time

[frank zealot]

your CPU is capping at 44c, that's not overheating at all.

What's your score on cinebench multi?

[raven citrus]

i mean the battery on this thing istill amazing and it runs like it was barely used

[pure garnet]

i lose some final fantasy performance but i wanted a new board for zen 6/nova lake anyway

[topaz veldt]

yeah get the ocf

[topaz veldt]

will be cool to get more people on 1dpc arl

[merry stirrup]

oh its broken broken

[pure garnet]

i just need floppa to verify his 12v is 12v and not a car battery

[merry stirrup]

i did in bios we're fine

just 2 year old hwinfo

[pure garnet]

should i just order it then

[merry stirrup]

i enjoy it heavily yes

[raven citrus]

love logitech macros not saving across the mouse bu just saves to the pc 💔

[pure garnet]

oh fuck i have to overnight it

[raven citrus]

macro

[pure garnet]

or else my stupid return date

[merry stirrup]

prime

[raven citrus]

holy laptop fans are louder than i thought

[pure garnet]

tuesday

[merry stirrup]

holy L

ig u payin more from central then

[raven citrus]

its litearlly cpu bottlenecked are you kiddin gme

[merry stirrup]

https://www.centralcomputer.com/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19212469917&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy7K9i9C9kAMVKRqtBh0CxQeiEAAYASAAEgL2j_D_BwE

still 329 my g

[pure garnet]

maybe i shouldn’t order this in private browsing

[merry stirrup]

dont youll have a me scenario where you have to buy it twice

make an account before you buy it lol

[raven citrus]

how the hell is a 5700u holding back its own intergrated graphics

[merry stirrup]

twenty five watts

[raven citrus]

the cpu isnt under full loda

[merry stirrup]

bro

the cpu and igpu are apart of the same power limit

[raven citrus]

ts pmo 💔

[heavy spire]

Is it plugged in btw?

[merry stirrup]

me asking users why their keyboard isnt working

[heavy spire]

[raven citrus]

yes its plugged in

[merry stirrup]

more no's than yes

[pure garnet]

bro floppa

[merry stirrup]

whatup g

[pure garnet]

overnight is 85 fucking dollars

[raven citrus]

floppa are you i.t help desk employee?

[merry stirrup]

doesnt that just make it the same as amazon

well, 20$ more than amazon

[topaz veldt]

why do you need it overnight

[merry stirrup]

return date on his 98 shiz

[granite dirge]

I'm so excited. The job I wanted sent me a job offer

[merry stirrup]

all the above

[raven citrus]

what degree you got?

[merry stirrup]

hard knox

[topaz veldt]

its called money degree

[pure garnet]

wait

i have a z890 i dont need it overnight

[merry stirrup]

🤯

[topaz veldt]

right

you're literally on a z890

[merry stirrup]

thats what i was thinking but i didnt want to call you stupid

[pure garnet]

too much ryzen

[merry stirrup]

head hurt

[merry stirrup]

nothing

[raven citrus]

hmm could i use ryzen master to undervolt my cpu on this laptop maybe

[merry stirrup]

whoever told you that you need to slave away yo life in college for random certs is unfortunately wrong

[raven citrus]

im just going for a two year degree thats it

[merry stirrup]

helpful but ultimately not the decision maker

[pure garnet]

ordered

[topaz veldt]

I am so excited

[merry stirrup]

all it took was me buying the big boy board first

[granite dirge]

And the job was hiring per the interview at 21. And their giving me even more than that..compared to the job I quit on the 7th I'm only down 26 cents a hour.. it's no longer working from home but it also is moving around so I'll lose some weight so that's nice.

[merry stirrup]

and a couple screenshots of 9133

[heavy spire]

Time to replace that 8 in 8200 with a 9

[pure garnet]

fr

[merry stirrup]

329 is simply an amazing deal for an ocf

[pure garnet]

i got 2 day bc it was only 10 bucks more

[merry stirrup]

oh not bad

[pure garnet]

overnight was the price of a small child

[topaz veldt]

what state?

[merry stirrup]

only 25$ more from me but thats cause i live right next to them

[pure garnet]

sc

[merry stirrup]

DAMN

[topaz veldt]

just sayin

[merry stirrup]

i like the idea of ocf vs apex in the ltt circle that sounds fun

[raven citrus]

and ryzen master no work 💔

[merry stirrup]

@shell void you and snail w/apex me and kyoko w/ocf are you down

[pure garnet]

my first real motherboard

they grow up so fast

[merry stirrup]

i dont intend on stopping

[raven citrus]

whats the first platform yall overclocked on

[merry stirrup]

lga 775

[raven citrus]

what cpu

[merry stirrup]

q6600

[pure garnet]

i got my 6700k to 5ghz

[topaz veldt]

we only have one apex tho

[raven citrus]

insane

[pure garnet]

delidded it too

[topaz veldt]

we need more apex

[raven citrus]

hwo much perfromance lift you get from that

[merry stirrup]

i told mike to buy one

[pure garnet]

yeah the rest of are on handout priced apexes

[topaz veldt]

bro won't even buy intel

[merry stirrup]

me and kyo cant ball as hard as yall so we have to buy ocf lol

[merry stirrup]

trust

[pure garnet]

eating like a 30% gaming perf penalty for the hobby

i’ll be the h24m trooper at least

[merry stirrup]

thats fair i want to see if urs does 9k+

[frank zealot]

Seems like it's running slower than expected

[pure garnet]

it’s 8000cl38 1.35v so

it should? unless the ic can’t

[merry stirrup]

yeah it should

[thick goblet]

do i just buy a new one

[merry stirrup]

i was told 9266+

[topaz veldt]

OK beginning to think its just BF6 is buggy

[frank zealot]

I wouldn't

[heavy spire]

Might be running some eco settings maybe

[frank zealot]

Maybe

[frank zealot]

Your cpu is capping at 3.4xx ghz instead of 3.9. That'll make a big difference in performance

[pure garnet]

i paid 360 in total @merry stirrup

[merry stirrup]

less than i did

had to pay 50$ shipping to overnight the 265k and ocf

but thats less proportionately i think

[thick goblet]

i asked chat gpt now, he said to download AMD Ryzen Master and disable Eco Mode or 65 W

[frank zealot]

Now go download and run Furmark. See if your gpu goes stupid.

[thick goblet]

and check bios

[thick goblet]

alright

[merry stirrup]

so when, monday?

[pure garnet]

i ordered 2 day so in theory monday or Tuesday yeah

[merry stirrup]

okie ill try and collect info 4 u

@topaz veldt changed more stuff and dimm pd went up slightly

[pure garnet]

i’ll go return 9800x3d when i wake up tomorrow before work

then just run the master @ xmp + refi till ocf comes

[merry stirrup]

so valid

then resell master and save for apex or sumn

re buy am5 but big

[pure garnet]

i don’t think resale on master is gonna be great

[topaz veldt]

warning... z890 resale blows

[raven citrus]

should it even be possible to just turn off the amd platform security processor

[pure garnet]

yeah i don’t think id get more than like 180 for it

[dim charm]

guys can someone help me pick a cpu between these 2 options?

[topaz veldt]

if it even sells 🙁

[pure garnet]

it’s been 250ish several times new and still barely sold

i may just keep it

if i ever need a cheap pc for something that’s a board and ram ready to go

[topaz veldt]

build a plex server

[pure garnet]

already have one

[topaz veldt]

but does it have quicksync

[pure garnet]

yep! 7500t

can do 4k transcodes fine

[dim charm]

someone help

[pure garnet]

you didn’t post either option

[dim charm]

Intel i7-7700 or AMD A10-9700

[raven citrus]

death is better imo

[heavy spire]

7700 if I really had to choose between em.

[raven citrus]

honestly i would say go for the am4 chip

[pure garnet]

if you don’t own buy neither

[heavy spire]

Why?

[topaz veldt]

Uh... disagree

Oh theres a new nvidia driver, lets see

[wraith steeple]

[steel stream]

BF6?

[topaz veldt]

BONE. What RAM blocks to get that are actual watercooling

[topaz veldt]

ya - crashes at menu

[frank zealot]

AM4 can be upgraded to a useful chip, the 7700 is basically maxed out

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/fff-gif-9556322350636244694

[thick goblet]

before and while playing the game that reboots my pc

I'll try furmark now

[frank zealot]

they're both ancient chips and terrible values to buy today, but the A10 will be on a board you can upgrade at least?

[frank zealot]

your CPU temps aren't the problem

[heavy spire]

Fair point, but the 9700 itself is absolutely terrible

[thick goblet]

whats the problem

that they're capped?

[frank zealot]

if it's not the CPU, it's probably GPU related.

Did you run furmark yet?

[thick goblet]

I'm downloading

[frank zealot]

oh yeah

the 7700 isn't much better tho

[wraith steeple]

The ones from Icemancooler have been pretty popular for DDR5

[pure garnet]

i misspelt one of the words in my address i hate it here

like it’s an obvious phone typo but i sent a cs message

[merry stirrup]

wait for the tracking and change the delivery as it shows up

[wraith steeple]

Though Icemancooler unfortunately is only available on sites like ali and taobao

[merry stirrup]

UPS should allow you to do that

[pure garnet]

considering it’s 4:30est i don’t think it’s going out today

[merry stirrup]

prolly not

[heavy spire]

Yeah, they are both kind of bad these days, but one of them is bulldozer\excavator levels of 4c\4t crap

[merry stirrup]

wait no its not dawg its 1:30

[pure garnet]

ryzen got me geeked

[merry stirrup]

theyre cali based broski it probably will go out today

just watch for when the tracking is avaiable and change it

you might need the UPS plus, but its like, 7$

[raven citrus]

whats yall prefered system benchmark

[merry stirrup]

ycruncher

but thats not a system benchmark its just a benchmark

[pure garnet]

i sent a cs ticket maybe they’ll catch it

hopium fr

[merry stirrup]

[pure garnet]

cirlce 😣

[merry stirrup]

AUGHHH

it might get auto corrected if that st doesng exist

[raven citrus]

wel whats a good benchmark to compare my gpu to other same versions of my gpu

[pure garnet]

it autocorrects to my address on google

i’m just paranoid

[topaz veldt]

Do you know if we can get them in the US easily

[frank zealot]

how long did you run it

[merry stirrup]

its okie broski

[thick goblet]

5 minutes

or until the benchmark was done

[pure garnet]

my ocf going into the barrens of ups

[frank zealot]

go run it for at least 10-15, since that's how long it took for your games to crash

[thick goblet]

alright

[merry stirrup]

445 MB/s test speed, incredible

i have no interconnect changes so im p sure thats good af

[pure garnet]

how does it feel not having to worry about termination timings

[wraith steeple]

Sadly the only good US retailer (NC FrozenCPU location under the last regime) that had them bit the dust not too long ago. Though not sure how TaoBao and Ali are

[merry stirrup]

a lot better. although. for max mem speed ill still need to

im sure i have at least 1 or 2 more ratios before im topped out theyll just require a lot more effort

9400 i think is my target for peak daily

wat is u targeting

my goal was 8600 but i flew right past that within minutes of turning it on after cleaning the ram slots

[wraith steeple]

@merry stirrup how is AliExpress ATM?

[merry stirrup]

for stuff like dd blocks?

[fringe vigil]

sup

[merry stirrup]

bad

[thick goblet]

The thing happened around 4 minutes in. The screen went black and fans went full boost mode

[merry stirrup]

i dont think i was even able to find the iceman dd 1700 as of recent

[pure garnet]

∞

[merry stirrup]

tariffs made a lot of etailers there not want to sell to US

[topaz veldt]

you just gotta actually use the system though - I had 9133 go for a few hours on Karhu but it was unstable overall. 9000 is 12 hours stable but BF6 is being lame.

[merry stirrup]

i will at some point

you realise that this is more fun than gaming to me right? 💀

[wraith steeple]

sigh
Yeah...... I feared that was the case

[pure garnet]

i’d be fine with even just like 8600 daily but having some screenies at aura speeds is worth

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

i cant post anything "crazy", 9266 is my g2 max posted so far

[topaz veldt]

yah but you said 'daily'

[merry stirrup]

ill make it work trust

the system will be used

[topaz veldt]

I mean as long as daily is more than calc.exe lol

[merry stirrup]

discord and cinebench

[pure garnet]

all u need

[frank zealot]

then it's a GPU problem.
You can try DDU to see if it's a bad driver install, and/or try different versions.

But it may also be hardware

[merry stirrup]

idk whether to run yc or karhu first tbh

[frank zealot]

furmark! 😄

[merry stirrup]

im doing karhu but i want to do yc instead but its too late

[merry stirrup]

the most useful utility in the furmark suite is cpu burner

[thick goblet]

I had the same issue back in july, then it got fixed and when i updated my drivers it reappeared

[frank zealot]

Prime95 Small

[thick goblet]

but thank you so much, I'll try

[pure garnet]

who is nickshih and why is it in the manual like 5 times

[merry stirrup]

BRO THATS WHAT IM WONDERING

"nick shih oc profile" option

it only says auto or ln2 extreme boom explode mode or something

also when you get your board

[pure garnet]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DxwbTwv0ST0

[merry stirrup]

look at the ln2 switch and ensure its not on

[pure garnet]

ah

[merry stirrup]

mine was in fact on

which makes sense its an ln2 board but it really shouldnt be by default 😭

[pure garnet]

does it have one of those freeze pc ones too

like snail had bumped on accident

[merry stirrup]

nah but a safemode and retry button

[topaz veldt]

ya'll dunno nickshih?

[merry stirrup]

however however

i have a gripe with the board especially for kvm oc

there is no clear cmos header

[pure garnet]

ivy bridge is before my time

[merry stirrup]

i have to do some insane fuck shit to get something to work remotely

w/the oclp header

connect cables to safe boot button and the gnd

[pure garnet]

DO NOT remove this Memory OC Shield (patent pending) from the motherboard.
Removing this may affect memory overclocking performance and stability.

[merry stirrup]

youll need to use some extra cables

[raven citrus]

is the amd apu tuner safe

[merry stirrup]

and you need adaptors for it to work cause theyre 2mm pitch and not 2.5mm pitch

turns out kvm oc isnt a normal usecase

[topaz veldt]

lol

you could also get fancy with a raspi

[merry stirrup]

this is cheaper

[pure garnet]

what is it with getting to work costing me money

yesterday i had to buy a car battery and now i have another motherboard

[merry stirrup]

im thinking of just pulling the cmos and hoping that when the system is off it isnt powered by the psu

so a long power off=cmos clear while remotely

but my adaptors for the ocp header will be here tomorrow

[topaz veldt]

you can pull the battery yah

save profiles

[merry stirrup]

so hopefully i can use that to trigger a safeboot when i need

[topaz veldt]

you could also just solder to the CMOS button pads

[merry stirrup]

otherwise my next plan of adding one is way less pretty

[merry stirrup]

yeah this is next

but the issue is that its on the rear io and not on the board (like by the dimms) itself

[topaz veldt]

yah just have to take the cover off usually

[merry stirrup]

yeah

gonna be a whole thing

that is the next option tho

i dont have a board preheater and this board will soak away all heat i put into it so id need to get one

so im hoping just using the fancy oc header works

[merry stirrup]

yeah

splave said he might take his off at some point so maybe ill wait to do it

[pure garnet]

sauce sticker

[merry stirrup]

it has to be good because they couldve just put caps there

[topaz veldt]

the button is likely through hole, just solder to the backside pins

doesn't need to be robust

[merry stirrup]

im gonna see if it is but the style of button is interesting so it might not be

[topaz veldt]

either way you're just surface soldering

[merry stirrup]

oh its super easy

i see the leads

[merry stirrup]

oh theres an oc shield on the back too

this makes sense but surprsing

[pure garnet]

i wonder what it actually does

[brave panther]

is it just rf tape

[merry stirrup]

i think so but it has to be grounded somehow

which is what im wondering how

i assume its just an exposed bit under it but idk

[brave panther]

prob a pad and tape uses conductive adhesive for that section

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[brave panther]

i would be interested if layer of kapton tape, then this tape (with grounding) would do the same thing

[merry stirrup]

someone find out

[shell void]

are u enjoying the platform so far after one day flopper?

[merry stirrup]

absolutely

i have held off on trying to play with the cores too much as im already disappointed though

i wont spill anything till i get an core oc dialed in

[shell void]

the clocks do be lower, but the core performance is still better

lion cove on top 🗣️

[merry stirrup]

i enjoyed it so hard kyoko bought one

[pure garnet]

i’ve been apathetic to my 9800x3d since the day it arrived

it wasn’t worth $480

[merry stirrup]

so hating ryzen isnt a thing that disappears slowly

or at all its just persistent

[shell void]

if i had gotten a dud sample then i probably wouldve returned my r7

[pure garnet]

i mean it’s a good chip but like

[shell void]

hard to give up a golden sample tho

[pure garnet]

the ocf was like

$160 or more less after tax?

and i can play with 9000 instead of 6400

[merry stirrup]

and just look at this thing

[shell void]

if it wasnt yellow it would be so heat

[merry stirrup]

it looks a lot better in person i will say

[pure garnet]

yeah but that’s where the y40 cheat code kicks in

[brave panther]

hp ram?

[merry stirrup]

but im happy that my gpu will cover all the yellow

[pure garnet]

we won’t see it behind the gpu

[merry stirrup]

adie, yes

[merry stirrup]

EXACTLY

[shell void]

why couldnt they have just done gold like this 🥀

[merry stirrup]

u a g for telling me and convincing me to buy a y40

[merry stirrup]

my favorite

[merry stirrup]

this does look a lot nicer but i dont hate the ocf

the ocf and its buttons and such make it very unique

[pure garnet]

ln2 mode will look very pretty though the glass

[pure garnet]

you get refurb too or new

[merry stirrup]

refurb

yours was fine i trust itll be fine

i dont really care what my computer looks like anyways i think its just convieniently going to look good

going great still

i never even fathomed over 9k

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I dunno if I wanna fuck with this

[merry stirrup]

yeesh

[topaz veldt]

these ram blocks are all soldered

[pallid marsh]

I would assume a man like yourself owns an ultra sonic cleaner

[plain kettle]

ts enough thermal paste?

too much?

[merry stirrup]

looks like paste

[frank zealot]

add some more. Extra is not a problem

[plain kettle]

are you sure

idk if my nh d15 is broken

I have a peerless assassin but I'd rather use the noctua

[frank zealot]

https://youtu.be/t52UW5bXkbs?si=ZUZmpsPnsG7Td2R8

how TF do you break a heatsink

[plain kettle]

Ask ups

[pallid marsh]

Unless you physically damaged it it can't break

[plain kettle]

I unbent it, it should be fine

I think

[pallid marsh]

It's fine as long as the cold plate isn't scratched to hell it will work

[frank zealot]

that's impressively fucked up

[plain kettle]

do I add more, I have enough for one more blob of those

[fringe vigil]

Is that a dead bug

[plain kettle]

Where

[fringe vigil]

On the cpu

[frank zealot]

paste is cheap, add more and buy another tube on your next online order

[pallid marsh]

The paste do look like a dead bug

[frank zealot]

ignore jorj, he's useless

[fringe vigil]

You squished it

[plain kettle]

2 bugs now

[merry stirrup]

looks fine

[plain kettle]

It was doing 94c

[merry stirrup]

its a 5950x...

[plain kettle]

but it was pulling 200w

[merry stirrup]

exactly

[plain kettle]

so idk, ambient is 25

[merry stirrup]

200w on a 5950x is very hard to cool and 94c should be anything but unexpected

[plain kettle]

yeah man idk it's my first time having a heater as a cpu

[merry stirrup]

200w is a lot of watts

[pallid marsh]

Why pump that much power into it

[merry stirrup]

especially for chips plagued with power density issues

@topaz veldt your sticks are def better than mine but no surprise btw

cant do 52 trcd at 9133

[frank zealot]

AMD's pretend line: 105w TDP lol

[topaz veldt]

whatcha mean

[merry stirrup]

.

tried it, errored in like 5 minutes

54 work

[topaz veldt]

thats where the volts come in

[merry stirrup]

i was told by a couple people h16a trcd doesnt scale with volts very well

[topaz veldt]

maybe not

[merry stirrup]

past 1.5 really, anyways

but we'll see now that i have a consistent testing platform

[merry stirrup]

rlly only tcl and trfc

[plain kettle]

Does anyone know which way these go

[heavy spire]

From my exp you might be able to stabilize a somewhat unstable trcd if you pump like 0.3v more into it, but it doesnt really do all that much yeh

[merry stirrup]

the manual

[merry stirrup]

we'll see im not too sad about it cause its 2 ticks but i am all for the minmax

[plain kettle]

It was on the PC already

[merry stirrup]

google "noctua cooler manual"

[plain kettle]

the manual has this other thing for am4

[heavy spire]

What sticks do you have btw?

[merry stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/KLEVV-2x16GB-7000MHz-Desktop-KD5AGUA80-70B360S/dp/B0C6LM4XR4

[heavy spire]

Ah ok

[merry stirrup]

idk if theyre good but essencore (klevv) is owned by the same people who own hynix

so i dont imagine theyre that bad but theyre def not like gskill 8k 36 1.4's

[heavy spire]

Yeh, basically Hynix's inhouse brand

[plain kettle]

I'm gonna guess the 3 stands for am3 and the 4 for am4

and hope I'm right

[merry stirrup]

theyre sticks/10

they dont perform poorly or particularly well theyre just adie

ig 9133 is a bit on the higher side for adie but

[heavy spire]

I mean, running 9133 isnt bad at all

[merry stirrup]

yeah my greenies stop at 86

[fringe vigil]

omg

[merry stirrup]

i dont have neough adie to say if youre lying or not

[low sorrel]

you get ocf?

[merry stirrup]

but my current data is in agreement

[merry stirrup]

yeah mane

[heavy spire]

I've seen people buy several a-dies hoping to get ones that run high speeds

[merry stirrup]

ive got 3 kits i can play with and ig thats a large enough sample size to play with

ill see what does 9k and what doesnt

a low end to middling range of adie in my possession

4800 greenies, 6000 c30 generic, and my 7k c36's

idk why but my ocf wont boot above 48tcl which could be limiting the results a little

[heavy spire]

[merry stirrup]

not that youd ever daily anything at 9k or otherwise with >48tcl

but it is weird cause i feel like thats the main limiter for stuff like this

[heavy spire]

Tried like cl60 or something high like that?

[merry stirrup]

nah but like 50-54 dont work

and 48 will post right up on the otherwise same settings

[low sorrel]

short right shift is fucking me up everytime i wanna hit right shift i hit up arrow

[merry stirrup]

speaking of arrow buy arrowlake

[heavy spire]

Maybe theres some memory hole

Idk, sounds weird. Could be asrock jank

[merry stirrup]

possible. ill try higher when this profile hits 3hrs

[heavy spire]

Must say, you've had a solid start with that board

[merry stirrup]

im at about 23 hours with it so far

and about 20 hours with it being able to turn on (aka built lol)

so id say so too

i am not done and wont be until i swap off z890

[merry stirrup]

ive spent a good 20/20 hours overclocking on it

[merry stirrup]

do you know the arl safe sa for daily? at least what we've decided as a community

[heavy spire]

Nice nice, keep up the good work.

[stoic crater]

rate custom about:newtab css

[heavy spire]

For arl? Barely done any arl OC so got no idea what people consider safe these days

[merry stirrup]

noted

i was on 1.5 for my first 9133 valid but michael here seemed skeptical so i dropped down to 1.4 and it seems to be working still

[heavy spire]

1.45v-ish is what I remember most people sticking to

[merry stirrup]

1.4 would be on the lower side i’ve seen for +9K

[merry stirrup]

so i don’t think i’ll minimize it more yeah

[stoic crater]

I don't think I am mentally advanced enough for this server

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

you guys scare me

I just wanna share some surface level stuff yall out here doing who knows what

[merry stirrup]

overclock.

[stoic crater]

yea but you got the voltage, clock speed for each core, and all other whipped out right there ready to modify at a moment's notice

[merry stirrup]

just monitoring. i don’t like doing any oc changes in os

[merry stirrup]

so long as you have a platform that gives repeatable results none of this is advanced more than 5th grade science

[shell void]

#tech-chat-1 is the more noobish channel

[merry stirrup]

make change. note result. change more based off result

doing it at all is one thing but doing it efficiently is different

[shell void]

remember there was a whole show about deciding whether a random person was smarter than a 5th grader

simple concepts are black magic to most normies

[merry stirrup]

fair

[heavy spire]

They turned it into a game as well

[merry stirrup]

when you do stuff like this it makes everything easy

the issue is making sure that it actually does what you put down consistently

[whole coral]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lowvoltage/s/TCq1Su8O99

lol. This isn’t new tech

Still cool to see though

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt new vid, mullet 2.0 lookin' mean

[pure garnet]

i have now been charged for the ocf @merry stirrup

[shell void]

i scrolled down after opening that post, and i saw this nightmare

[merry stirrup]

yoooo

it’s happening we’re all evolving

besides michael stuck in the past on a 4 dimm

[topaz veldt]

imagine

[topaz veldt]

oh nice - will check it out after Trunk or Treat

[merry stirrup]

i truly couldn’t

my last 3 boards have been 2 dimm

smh smh smh smh

[topaz veldt]

welp, cool. DDU'd and everything. Reinstalled BF6.

[merry stirrup]

(it doesn’t matter i’ve been thru 3 boards in 6 months)

[merry stirrup]

damn, happens on jedec?

[topaz veldt]

this is on X870E Apex which was untouched

[merry stirrup]

oh shiz

[shell void]

dont bully me

[merry stirrup]

maybe bf6 just buggy and not extremely sensitive

[pure garnet]

you need ocf michael

[merry stirrup]

329 broski

[pure garnet]

and 270k refresh

[merry stirrup]

chump change for a flopper like you

[shell void]

ill bench against any of you in games

[merry stirrup]

bench memory controller

[shell void]

i mean my controllers are running at higher clock than yours

[merry stirrup]

80 gigabyte enjoyer

[pure garnet]

it shipped

i’m scared to open the address

[merry stirrup]

ok now hurry and change the address lol

it’s ups right? you can change it after the fact

[whole coral]

Bruhhh

[leaden dawn]

Intolerant gaming

[pure garnet]

it cost me 17 dollars to fix it

😭

[dawn plover]

So I am getting a computer for Christmas I get to pick up parts and everything the only thing I was limited by is it being a business computer but aside from that everything else I got. (Here's what I got so far tell me if I need to change or improve anything)

[Image below]

[merry stirrup]

lmaoo lesson learned

[pure garnet]

btw central computers completely fucked my address

[edgy laurel]

don't buy any of that new from amazon

[merry stirrup]

this is terrible

[pure garnet]

it wasn’t actually gonna arrive if i didn’t override

it went to “MY UNIT” with no other address information

[merry stirrup]

600$ on a 10 year old cpu bro

[shell void]

i havent seen such a horrifying list in a while

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

shoutout the random noctua fan

[merry stirrup]

that he can’t even plug in btw

or put anywhere

[dawn plover]

If anyone has spare time can they find me a business computer that would be decent to turn to a gaming computer cuz I'm limited to that for my PC? 😅🙏

[gentle gale]

just get used parts or something

[edgy laurel]

go on your local used marketplace and buy someones gaming PC from the last 5 years. don't buy that garbage

[merry stirrup]

this is a terrible build. sit down with and convince them not to force you to buy a 20 year old office pc

even at 600$ brand new you can do better

[pure garnet]

alright now that i’ve like

that shipping feee

[merry stirrup]

i’m home and i get to look at my pretty ocf more

[pure garnet]

i dread driving home because i have my moms subaru

i don’t drive a car with disc brakes

[merry stirrup]

this is also a very arbitrary limitation that doesn’t even make any sense

[dawn plover]

Well I would like to go to a marketplace or something like that and pick up a PC but Facebook marketplace isn't an option plus my mom is one of those people who only get stuff from Amazon! 😅

[merry stirrup]

office pcs do not last any longer

[edgy laurel]

then buy a PS5

[merry stirrup]

you can get better from amazon

that’s a 500$ or 600$ list i assure you that you can get something am4 for that price brand new

[pure garnet]

buy this it’s basically equivalent in games and isn’t a giant tower

the 780m is a great igpu

https://a.co/d/ei7BScD one for 400 even

[merry stirrup]

enough money for games left over

[dawn plover]

I already tried that trying to get a mini PC but she won't go for that either it's just a normal business PC and on modifying it after I get it 😅

[merry stirrup]

i don’t get that

[edgy laurel]

that doesn't make any sense

[pure garnet]

this thing is going to be better than your list for 400

[merry stirrup]

respectfully i don’t see what much more we can do so if that’s end of story im sorry thats what you have to deal with at the end of the day

[dawn plover]

I know but this is the hand I've been dealt I can only play cards for so long. Got to make use of what I can get 😅

[merry stirrup]

it’s a terrible computer that’s hardly worth half of what it’s listed for

there’s no way in good consciousness i’d say to buy it even for someone’s grandma even if it is someone’s grandma

[edgy laurel]

not to mention such old parts bought new is a HORRIBLE way to spend your, or her, money

[merry stirrup]

literally

even if it’s about being reliable it’s not

it’s less reliable than new computers that are made from off the shelf components

[edgy laurel]

those miniPC's are sweet for what they are. basically a laptop without a screen

[merry stirrup]

it’s a 10 year old prebuilt desktop that they stopped making the same 10 years ago

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel last night

[pure garnet]

yeah the 7840hs is genuinely really good

[merry stirrup]

it’s not even brand new

so even if that’s their argument it’s still not right

[edgy laurel]

nice. this picture bothers me that you leveled it with the street and not the building LMAO

[dull turtle]

nightstandlab or whatever you geeks call it

[dawn plover]

So what do I do or what business computer should I be looking for cuz I'm kind of in a tough spot and I don't really know much about computers just know how to make gaming with graphics cards and stuff!

[merry stirrup]

what the hell is that power supply

and how are you somehow more pale than your night stand

normally i’m not one to comment but my lord

(none of this is serious, swear)

but that power supply is scary

[pure garnet]

okay now that i’ve cried at the ocf shipping pricing

[dull turtle]

ah contrast is a bit off but yes i am naturally pale

[pure garnet]

yay ln2 1dpc board!!!

[merry stirrup]

it’s ok it’s not as bad as my 5070ti

[dull turtle]

i dont get whats wrong with the psu though