#tech-chat-2

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minor herald
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how stable?

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you cant overclock igpu with msi afterberern

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most laptop dont let you mess with the bios

south shuttle
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yeah, big earnings surprise

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i’m going to regret for so long i sold my intel shares at like $21

lone scarab
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crazy

proven saddle
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Massive?

lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
south shuttle
proven saddle
south shuttle
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ah yes “550w” psu and 12v rail is 408w

lone scarab
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linus would eat it

lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
proven saddle
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Use the dark force of the psus

lone scarab
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yeeeeah

proven saddle
lone scarab
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w psu

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im invested

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might as well use it for my laptop

proven saddle
lone scarab
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feel the power of mars

proven saddle
lone scarab
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🔥🔥🔥

proven saddle
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Very light

lone scarab
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yeah

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no useless stuff

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just explosives 🔥🔥

proven saddle
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No need for extra safety fetures

lone scarab
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death guranteed

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lethal certified

proven saddle
lone scarab
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bomb scenario

proven saddle
proven saddle
lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
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dond

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i hungri

proven saddle
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Worth the value

lone scarab
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i need eat fud

proven saddle
lone scarab
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pls donet

proven saddle
lone scarab
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i ned moni 4 fud

lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
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doner kebab nacho

proven saddle
proven saddle
lone scarab
lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
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skil less

proven saddle
lone scarab
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unskilfull

lone scarab
proven saddle
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You just do something bad with frame

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And then colors

lone scarab
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moni or no moni?
moni good
no moni no good

proven saddle
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^-^

proven saddle
lone scarab
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rich gib moni
pur go awe

lone scarab
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i sell organs

proven saddle
proven saddle
lone scarab
proven saddle
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He. Has itx so expensive

lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
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i kid

proven saddle
lone scarab
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i no sel orgen

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i jox

proven saddle
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I work

lone scarab
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pur gui

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jobed

proven saddle
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Help family like vin diewel told

lone scarab
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imagin no unemploy

lone scarab
proven saddle
lone scarab
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sensor kuss word

proven saddle
lone scarab
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sel kebeb

proven saddle
lone scarab
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turki

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do turk ppl eat turki? 😅🤣

proven saddle
lone scarab
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nub

proven saddle
lone scarab
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i turki enemi

proven saddle
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Greg?

lone scarab
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ye

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it grec no greg

pale grove
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ok greg

lone scarab
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gof

proven saddle
lone scarab
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ye grec

green marsh
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i guess there is not much point in trying to sell my TR parts

oak vector
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I wanna sell my 4060ti 8gb r5 5600 rig
I wouldn’t mind a complete overhaul
But I don’t have the money for that without selling

shell void
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🙏

gloomy vault
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the cpus too arent worth that much

topaz veldt
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I'm so pumped for you

shell void
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the arrowlake games have begun

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flopper versus the snail

topaz veldt
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Lol

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Two different CPUs for now

topaz veldt
shell void
topaz veldt
steel stream
topaz veldt
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lol

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I keep looking at it and the plumbing is just not great

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and it takes away the easiness of removing the CPU cooler

steel stream
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so worth it for like +200 MHz trust

topaz veldt
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I suspect it would not be +200

steel stream
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fine ok, 201

shell void
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it probably wouldn’t increase frequency at all

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he’d just be able to run like 1.8v with 262k trefi

green marsh
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like stupid pricing

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if i could sell the board and the cpu each for $200+, i would do it gladly. But while shipping within EU is reasonable (12-14 euros via DPD), anywhere else the shipping fees skyrocket

frank zealot
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at least the taichi looks cool?

proven saddle
steel stream
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motherboard

frank zealot
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it wasn't subtle

frank zealot
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at least do 4x16

green marsh
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right now it again sits with 4x16GB

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sadly it doesn't work with 32GB modules (i tried 4x32GB)

frank zealot
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awwwww

proven saddle
frank zealot
proven saddle
frank zealot
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what the fuck does that even mean

proven saddle
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Ye gears look look cool

plucky ginkgo
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any black atx case recommendations?

edgy laurel
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lol

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considering nearly every case is available in black... try to come up with at least one more specific requirement

shell void
proven cairn
edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
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Please let me know, must have missed it

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
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All you asked for was "black case recommendations" with no other context

plucky ginkgo
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yeah fair enough

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what about under 100 pounds

proven cairn
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What you want it to look like

plucky ginkgo
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that’s why i’m asking for recommendations

proven cairn
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V100 for Fishtank, 903 Max for normal case

edgy laurel
proven cairn
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Kolink Peak Meshbay

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Mb

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Meshroom are the itx guys

plucky ginkgo
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er no but i will

plucky ginkgo
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and ehat brand is 903 max

proven cairn
proven cairn
plucky ginkgo
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is it under 100 pounds?

proven cairn
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Yes

plucky ginkgo
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lemme see

proven cairn
proven cairn
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The Unity Peak is the fishtank

proven cairn
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Stop being stupid

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
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i don’t like either 😭 lemme look at pc part picker

proven cairn
edgy laurel
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Everything is dogshit with zero explanation and recommending cheap chineseum knockoffs

proven cairn
edgy laurel
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Please, stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

wise bear
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Ooh, morning entertainment

proven cairn
wise bear
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sub sit the fuck down

proven cairn
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Nah

edgy laurel
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Atomic has went from zero to holy shit don't listen to a thing this clown says

edgy laurel
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Anyway, @plucky ginkgo there are plenty of quality built options. Don't buy cheap knockoffs

frank zealot
# proven cairn

have you considered that maybe not just trolling is a better way to be?

frank zealot
frank zealot
proven cairn
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It is based and cool

plucky ginkgo
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atx

frank zealot
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glass panels or metal

plucky ginkgo
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er

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idk whats the difference

frank zealot
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what's the difference between glass and metal?

plucky ginkgo
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as in what difference does it make

edgy laurel
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window or solid metal side panel

plucky ginkgo
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is one more expensive/high quality thats what i mean

wise bear
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YOOO these bone conduction headphones are fucking cool

plucky ginkgo
frank zealot
proven cairn
wise bear
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Nnno, these dont

proven cairn
wise bear
proven cairn
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Send video of them conducting

frank zealot
plucky ginkgo
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window or mesh

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
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i wanna see components

edgy laurel
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ok, lol

frank zealot
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Fractal North: Can be glass or mesh, and is a really slick looking case

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
proven cairn
frank zealot
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Do you want a fishtank style? Traditional style?

Do you plan to air cool, AIO? Other?

plucky ginkgo
frank zealot
golden hawk
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I've got a pc with a 7800x3D and an rx6800, which I use primarily for VR and Unity game development. I'm already happy with the performance, but I want to be able to use a tool called Bakery that unfortunately only works on nvidia GPUs. If I wanna keep at least the same performance and amount of VRAM that I already have, what's my best option for swapping to nvidia, and what does that look like in terms of price?

proven cairn
frank zealot
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like, come the fuck on, this is just an absolute snoozefest

frank zealot
edgy laurel
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generic black box and its somehow incredible, while everything else is "dogshit". don't interact with this clown

proven cairn
wise bear
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literal child thinking hes cool

frank zealot
edgy laurel
golden hawk
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Doesn't take long for messages to get buried here nowadays, huh ._.

plucky ginkgo
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its between the frame 4000d and the h7 flow

plucky ginkgo
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lemme look at some vids

edgy laurel
proven cairn
wise bear
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At least people actually find me funny

golden hawk
frank zealot
edgy laurel
proven cairn
frank zealot
edgy laurel
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i sent pcpp links

golden hawk
proven cairn
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Can probably get at least 300 for the 6800

proven cairn
frank zealot
frank zealot
proven cairn
frank zealot
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he specifically said he wants at least the same amount of VRAM, so only 16+ GB Cards

proven cairn
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He wants the same performance too though

frank zealot
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so, he needs two things:
16+ GB VRAM
6800 (or better) performance

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Everything I listed does that

proven cairn
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It does??

plucky ginkgo
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ima get the h5 flow

frank zealot
edgy laurel
wise bear
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if you're gonna be a shithead, have more material than 3 images and some lame-ass snapbacks

golden hawk
shell void
frank zealot
# proven cairn

memeing doesn't change the fact you're failing at basic reading

plucky ginkgo
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thank you

proven cairn
frank zealot
wise bear
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I'd love to add a gag order on you tbh

proven cairn
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Ok buddy

frank zealot
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As for the 5000 series? It's the dominant GPU series currently, there's nothing wrong with it

wise bear
green marsh
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my brain still can't get over the fact that the minisforum mini PC won't post with no CMOS battery, or with CMOS batter under 2.6V. So stupid

golden hawk
wise bear
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no?

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it's also pretty fuckin' powerful

frank zealot
golden hawk
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I remember that being a whole drama thing when it came out

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Fair enough

warm trench
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wsp gng

proven cairn
proven cairn
warm trench
shell void
proven cairn
frank zealot
golden hawk
proven cairn
frank zealot
golden hawk
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Bet then, 5060 TI 16GB it is

wise bear
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cuda my love 💕

proven cairn
warm trench
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hmm

proven cairn
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Cuda is for nerds

warm trench
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hows life going with everyone

wise bear
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calling me a nerd is like calling the ground dirty

proven cairn
frank zealot
proven cairn
warm trench
frank zealot
wise bear
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Sister doesn't game, 2 of my exes don't game, several friends don't game..

proven cairn
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Everyone under 18 games

wise bear
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God you're fucking stupid

merry stirrup
warm trench
merry stirrup
proven cairn
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Lemme get on an alt rq

warm trench
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i actually wanna build a phone

proven cairn
wise bear
proven cairn
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I actually have 0 alts

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That’s a complete lie

warm trench
edgy laurel
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(not Peyton, but @proven cairn )

warm trench
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holy

warm trench
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will i see someone getting banned

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right in front of my eyes

wise bear
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hopefully

frank zealot
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entirely possible, kid's been being a shit all morning

warm trench
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hmm

edgy laurel
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Hopefully muted so people can get back to getting solid help and not derailed constantly with bad advice.

warm trench
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atomic sub now hope for you

frank zealot
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and like, not even for quality trolling, it's really just basic 4chan level meme trash

frank zealot
warm trench
wise bear
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it comes tomorrow, I'm so fucking stoked

proven cairn
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Which Ryzen AI 9 has the 8060S

edgy laurel
wise bear
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BASED TYSM

edgy laurel
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Armory Crate uninstall tool and the goated G-Helper replacement

warm trench
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is there some channel where i can find ppl i can work with?

warm trench
wise bear
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@merry stirrup if you find ram perf for a 9700x that's not stupidly marked up pls ping/message because I'll probably get it on the fuckin' spot

proven cairn
warm trench
wise bear
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oh hey it happened

warm trench
frank zealot
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Thank you mod!

wise bear
edgy laurel
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Fantastic!

warm trench
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oh he got muted

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can i put gif here?

merry stirrup
frank zealot
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gifs are fine, but spamming them can get you in trouble

merry stirrup
wise bear
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WEH.

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ok, 6kcl30 it is

merry stirrup
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and anything over 6k on ryzen defaults in 2:1

edgy laurel
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unless you want to tinker, not really worth it

merry stirrup
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yeah basically

wise bear
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duly noted

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I'll save the tinkering for my servers

merry stirrup
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i woouldnt get a kit over 6K but i would try to get over 6K

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xmp just working is a nice feature

edgy laurel
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there is always 6000CL28 or 26 😆

edgy laurel
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aka mo money

pure garnet
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buying the godbin kit to run at expo should be illegal

wise bear
merry stirrup
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and tcl does nothing

wise bear
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fucking ai dorks causing ram prices to increase

topaz veldt
pure garnet
wise bear
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Some people are not smart

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
shell void
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z890 ocf my beloved

topaz veldt
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what memory?

pure garnet
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floppa went from fighting demons for 8k to 9133 already

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ocf is a real board

topaz veldt
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9133 CL48 but yeah

merry stirrup
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klevv 7K 36 1.4v

topaz veldt
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testing m/ts

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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my kit isn’t good so i don’t expect to be able to tighten well

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h24m will be better

topaz veldt
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Right now my room is 68F and I am battlling SPD temps w/ fan

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at 9000 CL40 1.5v

edgy laurel
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can the Asrock intel team go help the AMD team

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so they can stop killing chips

plucky ginkgo
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are thermalright fans reliable?

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18 pounds for a 5 pack of pwm fans seems TOO good to be true

shell void
edgy laurel
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probably not wrong

topaz veldt
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@merry stirrup this is where I am at

warm trench
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hmm

plucky ginkgo
topaz veldt
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praying 53.8C doesn't become 54C

merry stirrup
wise bear
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Someone call for a pack of fans?

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
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thx

topaz veldt
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Spent the last 30 mins looking at ram waterblocks and they all kind of suck

warm trench
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im bored as hell

edgy laurel
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for affordable 5-packs

lone scarab
plucky ginkgo
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im picky and need matching fans is the arctic freezer 36 good

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
dapper junco
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Yea, its fine

wise bear
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yall this is tc2, take the cat memes to tc1 pls

warm trench
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i have a crazy ambitious idea

edgy laurel
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Can we not start spamming cat pictures please?

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not the place for it

warm trench
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btw guys

edgy laurel
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...

wise bear
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nice bait

warm trench
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i have very lessbraincells

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so pls dont send paragraphs

topaz veldt
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<@&750150305383186585> shit posting galore

warm trench
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who?

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who galore?

wise bear
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yeah and i think this neverever dude is atomicsub's alt

warm trench
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why do i be him?

topaz veldt
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oct 24 join and already spamming

warm trench
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come on guys

wise bear
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nah fuck off

warm trench
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why should I be atomic sub?

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chat inactivity gone

plucky ginkgo
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are air coolers actually loud

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and also are dual tower air coolers louder

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than single tower

edgy laurel
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"air coolers" make no noise, fans do if you let them

topaz veldt
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eek

edgy laurel
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the amount of noise fans make is entirely controlled by you, the user

plucky ginkgo
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btw i have a decent amount of budget left do i get the arctic fans or the thermalright fans

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i can afford either and its not a HUGE price gap

edgy laurel
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in that situation, Arctic 100%

plucky ginkgo
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ok

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wait

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someone in the

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zach tech turf server

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told me that top fans with an air cooler can make temps worse

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let me go find it rq and copy the exact message

edgy laurel
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an exhause on the top at the rear is fine, just don't put an exhaust in front of the air cooler

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no need, we know exactly what they're saying but its more nuanced than what you're describing

plucky ginkgo
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''When u mount fans on top for exhaust on an aircooler, the air coming from front has to effectively do a 90 degree momentum shift which reduces its overall speed, which can harm temps at times, its better for the air to enter from front and leave through the back''

fringe vigil
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bish

edgy laurel
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Looking at the two top fans

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the left one is fine, probably not doing much but not hurting much either.

wise bear
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Nice paintbrush

edgy laurel
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the right one is pulling air away from what would go through the air cooler.

edgy laurel
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should be pretty simple to understand looking at it

plucky ginkgo
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wait how tf is air coming out from the middle of the cpu cooler lol

edgy laurel
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its.. what

wise bear
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sides aren't blocked

edgy laurel
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those arrows are just showing air movement direction

plucky ginkgo
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in that picture theres an arrow coming directly from the heatsink

wise bear
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its going through a fan showing flow direction

edgy laurel
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again, simply air movement direction

plucky ginkgo
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ah ok

dapper junco
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thats just the length of the arrow

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but yea, the heatsink fins can be opened on the side as well

wise bear
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Can it be tomorrow already, I wanna play with my new laptop

dapper junco
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so air from the first cpu cooler fan can just.. spill out

edgy laurel
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don't get too worried, it was just the fastest image i could find to illustrate your question on google images

dapper junco
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Yep

plucky ginkgo
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one more thing

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about the case i went with

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havent bought yet as in the one that earlier i said i would go with

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i watched some videos and apparently the psu needs to be facing up and thats bad?

pure garnet
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it’s not ideal but it won’t matter much

edgy laurel
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dunno why the fan would need to face up

dapper junco
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You mean the H5 flow? I'm pretty sure you have to let it face down

plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
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btw, here is your case. in this example the user has both top fans exhausting which.. real world isn't the end of the world but its not exactly "ideal" either.

plucky ginkgo
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that like it wont fit the other way round

pure garnet
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you want the fan facing down, it’s an intake fan

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the psu sucks air in and exhausts it out the rear of the unit

plucky ginkgo
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is what im saying

dapper junco
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You can, pretty sure the top has some dust filters

pure garnet
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the bottom is solid metal so

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it’ll just suck air from the case, not ideal but it’ll work

edgy laurel
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TPU shows it facing up too. might need to look in the manual

wise bear
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how is it that 2x48 kits are the same cost of 2x32

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what is this

pure garnet
dapper junco
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wait that case has a solid bottom?
hmmm

wise bear
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thats dope tbh

edgy laurel
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what the fuck

wise bear
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no stupid bottom dust filter to clean

topaz veldt
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lol flow

edgy laurel
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oh well, face it up I guess

wise bear
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I actually run all my psus fan-up if it's a bottom-mounted case

edgy laurel
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its ventilated up there

wise bear
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no its not bad wtf

edgy laurel
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no

dapper junco
pure garnet
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it’s fine

wise bear
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stop listening to youtube

pure garnet
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oh warship just

wise bear
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use cognitive reasoning

topaz veldt
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its also a power supply..

wise bear
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^

plucky ginkgo
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but doesnt the psu have warm air

topaz veldt
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the warm air exhausts thru the back

dapper junco
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in that case (pun half intended), warm air is better than no air

plucky ginkgo
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so its blowing warm air into the gpu?

wise bear
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what, no

topaz veldt
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the PSU fan is an "intake"

pure garnet
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it’s an intake fan

edgy laurel
wise bear
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^

dapper junco
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no, its sucking air from inside the case and blowing it out through the back. The PSU fan is an intake, it sucks in air to cool the PCB itself

topaz veldt
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we need one more

plucky ginkgo
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should i place fans on the psu shroud or no?

plucky ginkgo
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does doing so interfere with that process

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
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so no fans?

edgy laurel
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No fans on the PSU shroud

pure garnet
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3 intake in the front and an exhaust in the rear is all that case needs really

edgy laurel
wise bear
plucky ginkgo
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but will gpu temps be an issue

pure garnet
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doubt it

dapper junco
pure garnet
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it’s a box with a lot of holes

edgy laurel
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if its a bad GPU, maybe, but that won't be down to the case

plucky ginkgo
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its an asus prime rx 9060 xt

edgy laurel
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its a 9060, it'll be fine

pure garnet
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that doesn’t pull enough power for the case to really hurt temps

plucky ginkgo
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ok ty

edgy laurel
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hell the psu basement is ventilated from the rear too. no worries at all

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yeah sorry for the flashbang

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fookin white cases

wise bear
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MY EYES

pure garnet
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my eyes as i sit in a dimly lit cave

wise bear
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samesies

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well I suppose that's a great way to test local dimming on my tv

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(it works great, thank you)

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((ow, my eyes))

edgy laurel
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looking at this case, I can't understand why the bottom area where the PSU sits is solid..

pure garnet
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i don’t have local dimming

edgy laurel
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but whatever

pure garnet
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it’s nzxt

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the same minds created the s340 and h510

topaz veldt
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h510 lol

edgy laurel
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its got ventilation everywhere else

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

pure garnet
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when i moved to the meshify i think i dropped like 20c or something because my aio could actually use air

edgy laurel
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I still have an H210i sitting on my floor under my desk. I really need to throw it away. Quite possibly the worst ITX only case in existence from a efficient use of space perspective.

wise bear
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oh god the h210

pure garnet
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the itx atx box

edgy laurel
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yeah, its massive and ITX only

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the GPU room alone is laughable

dapper junco
pure garnet
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i threw away my o11 mini a week ago

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it never got a fair chance at life but i have no use for an sfx only psu box

wise bear
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I think nzxt marketing execs were doing a bit too much coke when they greenlit the H210

edgy laurel
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look at the GPU breathing room for only a 2-slot card

wise bear
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omg its 10 years ago

plucky ginkgo
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wait but will fans on the psu shroud make genuinely zero positive difference to temps because its a 5 pack and i would still spend an extra 5 pounds on an extra fan if it does make a difference

pure garnet
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yeah

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you’d either spite the psu or the gpu with the fans

edgy laurel
pure garnet
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air needs to go this way

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fans on the shroud would just block one path

wise bear
pure garnet
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“honeywell” on amazon

edgy laurel
wise bear
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hmmhmmhmm

pure garnet
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ltt sells official but i got the cheap gamble stuff and its been fine

devout ridge
wise bear
#

TG's got a 40x50mm pad for $14, I'll just get that methinks popcat

#

that'll be plenty for a mobile die

pure garnet
#

yeah i had a ton left over when i did my gpu and cpu in mine

wise bear
#

I've been placing so many amazon orders that amazon and my bank just did fuckin' security checks kek

plucky ginkgo
#

also for the like 2 seperate cables going out of the gpu do i need cable extensions?

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do yk what i mean

edgy laurel
plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
#

sure

plucky ginkgo
#

but

#

does it require cable extensions

#

and/or a specific type of psu

devout ridge
#

only if the cable doesn’t reach far enough

#

specific type of psu, no

edgy laurel
#

to use seperate cables, you simply need a PSU that has at least two PCIe cables

wraith steeple
plucky ginkgo
edgy laurel
#

you won't need extensions with that case, everything is really close

#

you look up the PSU's specs on the manufacturers page, or you list the PSU and we do it

devout ridge
plucky ginkgo
#

nzxt c750 gold 2022

#

its 75 quid 750w and A tier on the tier list

devout ridge
#

it has two pcie power cables

edgy laurel
#

it says there are 6x PCie 8-pin connectors, so that'll be more than one cable

wraith steeple
#

How's TC2?

edgy laurel
#

now that the trolls have either been muted or left, great

merry stirrup
#

yippie

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im excited to try my new kvm

#

gotta get 9133 dialed in

frank zealot
#

Guilty: "Here's half a dozen objectively excellent cases that perform well and aren't excessively expensive"
Troll: "They're all garbage"
Guilty: .....
Troll: "This case is based!" <Posts the most boring looking plain black box I've seen in ages>

merry stirrup
#

😭

frank zealot
#

like, is this not the most boring case you've seen in years?

merry stirrup
#

looks similar to my d31, so, yes, it is

dapper junco
frank zealot
#

the LanCool cases are very reasonably priced, too

#

and they're absolutely awesome cases

merry stirrup
#

i bought a y40 to twin with kyoko

wise bear
#

ew, fishtank

frank zealot
#

my new work PC is in a fishtank. Suck it 😛

wise bear
#

REEEEE

dapper junco
merry stirrup
warm trench
#

m

merry stirrup
#

cause the gpus is vertical it blocks the ugly on the ocf

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so its 9133 mt/s without being ugly

warm trench
#

hmm

merry stirrup
frank zealot
merry stirrup
#

well the y40 only allows vertical 💀

dapper junco
pure garnet
#

buying an ocf to twin with floppa (misinfo)

devout ridge
#

buying more 2690v4's to twin with floppa

wise bear
pure garnet
#

what’s with the yoda on the box

wise bear
#

idk

frank zealot
wise bear
#

I also nabbed the lf3 pro 280mm popcat

wise bear
#

and I've got an asus matx b850 and a 9700x coming sunday

#

all thats left is ram tbh

green marsh
# frank zealot My real question here: What moron put in 8x8gb sticks into a board?

the sad part when i think about is that it makes no economical sense even for AI tasks. 3090's go for around 600 euros here. with x399 taichi's four x16 slots (some run at x8, but whatever), that is still only 4*24=96GB VRAM, for 2400 euros, plus the platform i own, plus the cost of the power supply to power all that. Versus the 1979 euros for the Framework Ryzen AI Max+ 395 - 128GB motherboard with LPDDR5x-8000, from which you can also allocate 96GB to the GPU. At more than 400 euros cheaper, plus it also uses less power 🤷‍♂️

wraith steeple
merry stirrup
pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

so??

pure garnet
#

i don’t got the snail gold chest

merry stirrup
#

that is a factor i suppose

wise bear
#

damn, usbc out here being baller

frank zealot
#

new usb stuff is fuckin' epic

#

Ive gotten nearly 1GB/s from a usb ssd

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

act broke to stay rich

wise bear
#

yeah like I'm not even upset that the laptop i got only has 1tb, I can use my 2tb external as a game library and be fuckin' set

frank zealot
#

I got this off a USB NVME Dock

green marsh
wise bear
arctic bronze
green marsh
wise bear
frank zealot
wise bear
#

usbc based

shell void
green marsh
wraith steeple
frank zealot
frank zealot
green marsh
wise bear
#

Now this is a product title. two words.

frank zealot
wise bear
#

oh

frank zealot
#

(I've yet to read or watch that in any way, but the title alone will never fail to make me laugh)

wise bear
#

what's up with her knee, it looks malformed

frank zealot
#

bad painting

wise bear
#

someone forgot about layering in krita

frank zealot
#

prolly

#

okay, if any hummingbirds lived around me, i'd consider putting one of these on the porch:

pure garnet
#

impressed that they got 9 volumes so far out of that

frank zealot
wise bear
#

More 2.5g \o/

frank zealot
#

(thank you wikipedia)

#

moar speed!

wise bear
#

MOREEEE

wise bear
arctic bronze
#

5mph but i have 1000whp

merry stirrup
#

kvm work

#

its very shit with tailscale

#

in the mean time i just fuckin port forwarded it idgaf

#

prayge @topaz veldt @shell void

arctic bronze
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

gonna get it more locked in and then leave it alone

#

i was not expecting it to do more than 8600 if you want my entire opinion

arctic bronze
#

Floppa is typing

#

Floppa has spoken

merry stirrup
#

this is true

arctic bronze
#

Floppa has agreed

warm trench
#

hmm

topaz veldt
#

so now I am playing min voltage game to keep temps down to keep refresh at 131k

merry stirrup
#

what temp do you die at?

topaz veldt
#

like 53.5c

merry stirrup
#

oh i dont even hit that

#

i think the play is naked dimms dawg

topaz veldt
#

maybe it is

#

also I have tiny asus fan

#

I might need to go back to D30 big dog

merry stirrup
#

after 6 hours my max temp was 38.3c

warm trench
#

hmm

topaz veldt
#

lolwat

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

that seems suspiciously low

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
arctic bronze
warm trench
arctic bronze
#

Stop

merry stirrup
#

@topaz veldt whats ur like rough dimm power draw

#

6-6.5w?

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

ah okie

#

kvm too convinient bro

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

yea wild

topaz veldt
#

maybe 16 vs 24?

merry stirrup
#

thats what im thinkin

topaz veldt
#

I have my 6000 CL26s here...

merry stirrup
#

but also naked dimms are generally better at cooling than any stock heatsink

#

or really any heatsink at all on a 2dimm

#

cause the heatsinks get too wide for air to go thru

topaz veldt
#

ya

merry stirrup
#

y i run naked stuff and took the leds off

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

I was out running an errand and thought maybe i'll get a 6000 cl30 kit for my 9800x3d and take that 6000 cl26 48GB out of that

merry stirrup
#

that is smart

#

worst case if you somehow notice a difference just oc the fuck out the shitter kit

topaz veldt
#

In my 285k now are the 9000 cu dimms

merry stirrup
#

ah

topaz veldt
#

oh... i wonder....

#

does CK add any power

merry stirrup
#

it would make sense

#

temp also adds power so that could be the .750w disparity

topaz veldt
#

yeah

merry stirrup
#

yeah my dimms dont even hit 7w so thats interesting

#

i already love this platform

topaz veldt
#

what is your SA

#

literally all my shit is auto other than VDD and VDDQ on DIMM

merry stirrup
#

1.5 cause i read that its ok and plenty o people on the forums doing it

#

(thats auto)

#

i put vdd2 on 1.4 instead of auto 1.5 tho cause that just felt too high for the memory controller

shell void
#

1.5VCCSA? DANger

topaz veldt
#

What does ASUS call vdd2

merry stirrup
#

yeah arl is weird and people like veii seem to say its okie

#

i think maybe IMC? idk

pure garnet
topaz veldt
#

I have Memory Controller V

merry stirrup
#

might be it

topaz veldt
#

I run auto there also

#

Or no I had it 1.47

merry stirrup
#

sounds about right

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

1.47sa

civic reef
#

121 down payment, then 25 a month for 11 months..

#

I wish RAM kits weren't so egregiously overpriced

#

Total is 403 btw, this is pre-tax

pure garnet
#

please don’t finance computer parts

topaz veldt
#

CL40 is like 8000 CL30

merry stirrup
#

yea thats the goal ill see how much vdd i have to ram into them later for that

#

rn i want to lower vccsa cause michael is kinda right

topaz veldt
#

which

merry stirrup
#

meant sa

topaz veldt
#

i am on ....

merry stirrup
#

i just knocked down further to 1.4

topaz veldt
#

auto

merry stirrup
#

i dont gfet a vccsa readout for some reason

topaz veldt
#

this is out of the EC sensor

merry stirrup
#

oh ok

topaz veldt
#

no sorry

#

I dropped refresh down to 65535

pure garnet
merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

does it just crank the shit out of it for 9000

merry stirrup
#

maybe

topaz veldt
#

nah it always does like 1.4+

merry stirrup
#

i just havent tried lower

pure garnet
#

mine is doing 1.3v on auto

merry stirrup
#

at nine?

pure garnet
#

no

#

idk what voltage i need to set to boot nine

#

im still at 8200

merry stirrup
#

im unsure of whats safe atm

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup its significantly cooler at 65535 refresh

merry stirrup
#

illl swap to 131 and confirm

pure garnet
topaz veldt
#

6W vs 6.7W

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

it bounces 6.0-6.3W

pure garnet
#

i tried all auto timings last time

merry stirrup
#

just like 48-58-58-86

#

my board wont boot a tcl higher than 48 its weird idk

#

not that its really a problem but its weird

merry stirrup
#

with spikes to 6.7X

pure garnet
topaz veldt
#

I just moved vddq to 1.4

merry stirrup
#

my board wont boot high mem freq unless vddq_mem is 1.4 or below

topaz veldt
#

really?

merry stirrup
#

so yes the signaling part of the signaling voltage is very important

pure garnet
#

it hasn’t shut off yet but it also hasn’t booted yet

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

Like you mean DRAM VDDQ?

merry stirrup
#

yes mem not mrc

topaz veldt
#

that's wild

merry stirrup
#

idk if its normal or not

topaz veldt
#

maybe just an ASRock thing

merry stirrup
#

im not sure yeah

topaz veldt
#

Apex ships with presets like 1.55/1.55

merry stirrup
#

and the hopefully bugged pmic readout

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

it doesnt seem to affect me but its something to note

pure garnet
#

okay safe mode kicked in

merry stirrup
#

okay try 84

pure garnet
#

i think i have to play with voltages on this board

topaz veldt
#

what board is that kyoko

merry stirrup
#

at least figure out max post

pure garnet
#

z890 master

topaz veldt
#

ah

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

even if you try and do 1.4 vddq?

pure garnet
#

yeah

merry stirrup
#

wack

#

ig 4 dimmer things

topaz veldt
#

yeah

pure garnet
#

i did 48-58-58-86 1.4q 1.6vdd

merry stirrup
#

woah 1.6 is too high

dull anvil
#

Ay I got a silly but interesting question

topaz veldt
#

whoa

#

yeah do like 1.5 max

merry stirrup
#

1.5 bro 1.5

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

signal integrity degrades as voltage goes up

dull anvil
#

What if u put like a really new gpu chip on a very old gpu pcb

topaz veldt
#

1.65 is like glory run territory

pure garnet
dull anvil
#

Ok bye

#

Wait wait actually

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

no its not dangerous but it wont be reliable there

dull anvil
#

What if u get like a regular gpu chip and solder it to a laptop gpu connections

merry stirrup
#

yeah

autumn rain
merry stirrup
#

compared to my other SS it doesnt seem like refi influenced t he temp at all for me

merry stirrup
#

the closest thing we have to "very old pcb w/ very new core" is the 4090 to 5090 mod that is probably maybe fake

dull anvil
merry stirrup
#

gt 1010 is a real chip

topaz veldt
#

Should I buy another set of ram to strip down

merry stirrup
#

i think yes naked dimms are great

dull anvil
frank zealot
autumn rain
scarlet iron
#

Is Micron's die's good for overclocking for ddr5

merry stirrup
#

lol no

dull anvil
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
scarlet iron
#

guh

dull anvil
#

Ong there was like 0 info on it when I searched it up last time but ok

merry stirrup
#

dawg theres countless videos on people ordering one

dull anvil
#

Now I see

scarlet iron
#

there's Crucial pro overclocking kit for 93€ brand new which is a rly good price

merry stirrup
#

thats not good for overclocking sadly

dull anvil
frank zealot
merry stirrup
#

like at all

dull anvil
#

No I know it’s real now

merry stirrup
#

93 euro is definitely close to a die prices

#

where do you live cat man

scarlet iron
#

the kit is 6000cl36 so I'm wondering would it be possible to tighten the timings to around CL28

frank zealot
#

Rec Res: 640x480

ROFL

merry stirrup
#

absolutely not

scarlet iron
topaz veldt
#

Of course my son is playing on the 9800X3D right now so I can't steal that ram

scarlet iron
frank zealot
#

GPU's built to game back in 1996

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
frank zealot
#

FFS: I was gaming at 800x600 or 1024 back in the late 90's.

merry stirrup
#

lmao

scarlet iron
merry stirrup
#

bare minimum ytou can expect to oc ok

scarlet iron
#

ough 30€ more expensive

merry stirrup
#

try to find oem hynix dimms

#

if ur serious about wanting to oc anyways theyll be cheaper and should be as good/better

#

my greenies do 8600

topaz veldt
#

where you get em

merry stirrup
#

work

karmic folio
#

Thief

scarlet iron
#

how did it jump from 90€ to 337€

topaz veldt
#

all my work RAM is ECC LOL

pure garnet
#

why are you buying ram on aliexpress

scarlet iron
#

cuz of Kingbank

merry stirrup
#

kingbank stuff actually usually good

#

lowbin but its in fact what it says it is

scarlet iron
#

I have DDR4 kingbanks in my current system

frank zealot
#

DDR5 has been going up in price, but not that much lolol

merry stirrup
#

@topaz veldt cookin away still

#

and same low temps

#

38.5c is more believable to say now that im 15 minutes in and only at 37 lol

topaz veldt
#

thats insane

#

mine are 50C what fan do you have over them

merry stirrup
#

noctua redux thing

#

got it for 4$ at goodwill

topaz veldt
#

ok yeah i think I need more legit fan

merry stirrup
#

probably

#

apex fan is cute but tiny

topaz veldt
#

i honestly don't feel it moving much

merry stirrup
#

yeah i stick my hand under the noctua and i get a pretty decent blast of air

#

+nakeds=dubs

scarlet iron
#

why is it that every kingbank listing I check on aliexpress it jumps from listing price of 100€ to 340€ when I click on it

topaz veldt
#

im going to crank rad fans

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

the ocf came with jack and shit

pure garnet
#

asrock:/

merry stirrup
#

2 thermal temp probes that theres only headers for on the bottom of the board

#

so i cant put it by the ram chips

#

whats the point what am i measuring down there

pure garnet
#

i got probes too but i didn’t see where they connect

merry stirrup
#

and the headers are right next to eachother

#

and the cables are super short

topaz veldt
#

rad fans are bringing it down ish

#

or keeping it in check

civic reef
topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup i kind of don't want to strip these CK DIMMs

#

I just errored

merry stirrup
#

thats valid, theyre like 400$ sticks

pure garnet
#

trying 1.5 for 8600 but i doubt this makes any difference

merry stirrup
civic reef
merry stirrup
#

@topaz veldt also does this mean the ocf technically beats the apex LOL

civic reef
#

Thus the financing

pure garnet
#

yeah that’s kinda my point