tech-chat-2

[shell void]

friggin sweet 🔥 (im not buying it)

[pure garnet]

the 9950x3d calls to me still

[shell void]

my m1 pro is my last macbook ever probably

i just hate being limited to macos or virtual machines

[pure garnet]

my macbook is cool aside from anytime i try to use it for more than web browsing

[shell void]

fr glorified chromebook

[pure garnet]

i plugged in a flash drive with a dirty bit set or whatever it's called for ntfs and it just hardlocked that part of the kernel

diskutil and diskutility would just never load

[steel stream]

PTL please come quick

[shell void]

16" 3840x2400 240Hz OLED
100WH battery
Ultra X9 388H w/ LPDDR5X 9600MT/s

so optimal

[steel stream]

need me an 18A wafer

[shell void]

i need the one that pat gripped while saying papa's here

[steel stream]

I'd pay like a million dollars

[shell void]

mashallah

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pat-gelsinger-papa-computer-chip-gif-4422124117738847315

[shell void]

precisely

[fringe vigil]

astrufigullah

[topaz veldt]

End game

[steel stream]

nice low end build you got there

[edgy laurel]

Oh yeah, forgot about that

[fringe vigil]

looks g

[edgy laurel]

And just think how easy it’ll be in three weeks when you buy a new part to fit it in

[steel stream]

happy to see a price like that in 2025

[topaz veldt]

That's why it's soft tubed!

[edgy laurel]

I know what’s what I’m saying!

[fringe vigil]

whys your pc all girly snail

[topaz veldt]

I'm so excited

[fringe vigil]

nuketown on b06 is called boo town now lol

[steel stream]

JRUZE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥

[shell void]

it looks so much better with the white 24 pin

it looks spectacular

[fringe vigil]

short for ruzzito

jk

[topaz veldt]

You're such an incitor

[stable turret]

the literally most popular game on the human earth just got the largest upgrade ever. lemme test how much performance uplift it got for the RTX graphics cards.

[shell void]

i just hold you to the same standards as the devil on your shoulder

[steel stream]

I always forget Valorant is a thing

[shell void]

snail getting white or silver ram heatspreaders when?

[steel stream]

i told him he needs to block the dimms

[shell void]

true

he needs to be able to run 1.85v daily

[topaz veldt]

I dunno how I'd block the ram from a tubing perspective honestly

This is working pretty well!

[shell void]

i forgot the apex comes with that

stealth ram cooling

nestled right next to that beautiful new 24 pin cable

[topaz veldt]

lol

[scarlet iron]

What was updated?

Dlss?

[whole coral]

@shell void lmaoooo there it is. The price wars have started

2 gigabit went from $150 a month to $115 a month

Absolutely not done going down yet

[shell void]

that's still more than GNS charges

[whole coral]

$50 more a month yeah lmao

[stable turret]

vandal recoil changes

[whole coral]

It’s gonna 100% go down more

[fringe vigil]

95/m lmaooo

[whole coral]

1 gig used to be $110 a month

[scarlet iron]

And that's supposed to uplift performance on RTX gpu's?

Valorant optimization is very interesting

Chinese game development is built different

[whole coral]

Also “no annual contract or cancellation fees”

[stable turret]

utterly insane optimization from valorant that boosts 5ms input latency (CPU + GPU) with NVIDIA reflex 2 + boost enabled as shown on the top left counter

[stable turret]

i dunno, prob many more optimizations done under the roof

and even potatoes can run this game

[shell void]

valorant got optimized a lil when they moved it to ue5

it's stupidly easy to run

just have an i7 8700K or R5 5600 or better and youre fine

[stable turret]

pretty much all of my CS2 friends switched and went to play valorant, which shows how popular this game has become

[pure garnet]

not even

linus played it at like 144 on haswell

[slim pebble]

That is fire now BTW. Almost makes me wish I had gone 285K and Apex or Extreme. The boards are just beautiful

[pure garnet]

honestly he does fit you

[fringe vigil]

who?

[topaz veldt]

Its a solid workstation for sure - here's hoping my new cooling solution lets me bump some settings

[stable turret]

i wanna get the same t-shirt the man wearing on the right. does LTT sell it?

[odd sable]

nshitia probably sells then nshitia shirt

[fringe vigil]

what a nvidia fanboy

[edgy laurel]

youtube possibly down

at least video playback

[halcyon plover]

Guys i have question i wona start coding Im fully new and i wona learn how to code pls help me WHat is thee best site to learn how to code

[fringe vigil]

it is

mines really bad

[edgy laurel]

according to the last 60 seconds of googling, Nvidia does not sell retail clothing to the public officially

[wind cove]

I’m actually watching a YouTube video right now

[wind cove]

I think it’s fully buffered to the end of the video already though

[steel stream]

yup

[edgy laurel]

some videos work

most don't seem to

[steel stream]

shoutout to ebay

[steel stream]

I think harvard has lots of free coding courses

[fringe vigil]

literally my screen

[edgy laurel]

yeah i'm sure there is plenty of stuff you can buy, just not direct from Nvidia

[halcyon plover]

TY evry one

[wind cove]

@fringe vigil goth era

[fringe vigil]

yhh

[wind cove]

Oh there it goes. It’s buffering buffering buffering.

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[wind cove]

Different video

F

[fringe vigil]

UGH

[edgy laurel]

i don't expect it to last long

[wind cove]

It looks like the whole thing is not down. It looks like it’s just the actual video files that aren’t being accessed properly.

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[wind cove]

Thumbnails and stuff are still loading

[edgy laurel]

you can still search and navigate the site

[fringe vigil]

yt BISH ASS

[edgy laurel]

oof

[wind cove]

I can’t even imagine doing a livestream on YouTube right now when these things happen. Bad times.

[edgy laurel]

tbh, this isn't that common

and I watch way too much youtube

[wind cove]

it’s back

spoke too soon

it served me an ad and then did the wheel of waiting

[edgy laurel]

lol yeah, i found one video that played and then nothing else did

[frail marlin]

why does my 5070 not show any instability with 4200 mhz memory overclock?

[wind cove]

it looks like anything that was live before the outage is still alive

[frail marlin]

i did multiple stresstest+benchmarks and no issues at all even the temps are fine around 70c

[edgy laurel]

play a game

[drifting garden]

Anyone wanna check my post in #1027757333117415424

@edgy laurel I Definetly remember you

Lmaooo remember me

[devout ridge]

Don't ping people to help with your threads, it's rude

[frail marlin]

🫖 🍵 🍵

[shell void]

arent you the forever builder

[drifting garden]

Didn’t ping him to help me for my thread

I pinged him because I swear I remember him can you read

Mb that was mean but srsly read bro

[devout ridge]

that was a roller coaster of emotions

[drifting garden]

Yeah shi happens

[edgy laurel]

9800x3D / 4080 microstutter.

Come back when you've reinstalled windows, just the GPU driver and just the game in question. I can't get involved before that.

[drifting garden]

Thanks

Also you do remember me don’t you

You helped me a ton bro your a real one

[stable turret]

youtube is down?

[edgy laurel]

anyone else can help, but i've seen that problem too many times and its just a waste of time to try and troubleshoot remotely

yes, youtube is down

[stable turret]

lemme guess, cuz of it being ECC?

[whole coral]

Hello?

This is happening for some reason

[frail marlin]

whats ecc

[edgy laurel]

https://downdetector.com/status/youtube/

[whole coral]

Ohhhh shit

[edgy laurel]

man that number is getting so big so quick

[whole coral]

Jesus Christ

[stable turret]

ECC memories dont usually crash or go unstable it couldn't maintain the memory speed, it simply drops the performance due to error corrections. so you need to run benchmarks verifying you are gaining performance before overclock it further

lol youtube sucks time to switch to bilibili

[frail marlin]

still nothing

[grave lion]

odd, works for me

[devout ridge]

It's not entirely down

[grave lion]

whats down

[topaz veldt]

Oh no not my YouTube

[grave lion]

where else can I watch people put 1030s on budget builds???

[stable turret]

i can still watch videos after refreshing the same page for rouhgly 10 times

[topaz veldt]

Maybe cloudflare again?

It's more than one service

[edgy laurel]

youtube is the only thing spiking on downdetector at least

[devout ridge]

It's not entirely down

[edgy laurel]

well

[devout ridge]

Google is as well

[grave lion]

oh, yeah shes down rip

[stable turret]

at least we can still use bing

[topaz veldt]

Nah

[shell void]

oh dang i thought it was me lmao

[grave lion]

cant watch my favorite video of someone making a tierlist of tierlists

[stable turret]

or bing videos

[shell void]

i updated my drivers, rebooted my pc, and added some voltage to everything

[edgy laurel]

yeah but like.. relatively

[shell void]

i shouldve known better, my tunes are infallible

[stable turret]

at least valorant isn't down, so i guess the issue isn't that severe

[grave lion]

thank the heavens!

[shell void]

who is queueing valorant with me? (american servers)

[fringe vigil]

Uh?..

[topaz veldt]

Look at Google services also

[stable turret]

sry i play in the mainland china server

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/brindis-xi-jinping-gif-26069380

[grave lion]

It’s been 5 minutes without YouTube, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today trying to watch a video but YouTube was down, I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few minutes. I couldn’t focus on anything today, I am so worried I even thought of giving up completely. I am nothing without YouTube, it is my life, it is my destiny. Without YouTube, I wouldn’t be able to do anything. YouTube is the best thing ever made and I can’t get rid of my addiction to it — it’s the best platform in existence. I can’t stop trembling and crying, I am very worried. I can’t watch my favorite creators, I can’t see new uploads, I’m trembling more than ever. Shivering in fear of losing my watch streak and recommendations. I am so scared that I might lose my mind and go insane. I want YouTube back.

wow. that was quick.

[stable turret]

that video is kinda boring. i was expecting to see some GN drama and how it caused LMG employees leaving

[pure garnet]

fr?

[stable turret]

however there was none so i clicked away

[shell void]

they nerfed basically every agent so i wanna try playing again

they also made spraying with rifles more viable so that it's more of a gun centric game now

instead of conveniently timing agent ability dumps

[pure garnet]

i can get on if you wanna play

just watching tv rn

[shell void]

yuh get on

[pure garnet]

damn mac asleep

lemme go grab a drink while patch downloads

[stable turret]

yeh its more like cs2 now i would say after a few games

[pure garnet]

this game sucks

[stable turret]

the most clownish anticheat system i had seen

[shell void]

at least it mostly works

ive never run into an obvious cheater in valorant

i saw hundreds in csgo

[pure garnet]

i couldnt tell anyway with all the abilities

[stable turret]

yeh i had seen obviously less cheaters in valorant compared to other first person shooter games

its just too invasive for my system

i guess severe problems come with aggressive measures?

[shell void]

the only two realistic options are invasive anticheat or a big price to entry

[pure garnet]

or what korea does

1 acc per person per life

[shell void]

i wouldnt mind GTA 6 being like $300 so that the number of cheaters is substantially reduced

[stable turret]

its hard to enforce one account system across the world thouhg i would say

[shell void]

pricing singleplayer and online separately could work

$80 single player and another $120 to access online lol

[pure garnet]

i got the game open michael

if you wish to communicate via voice i am ready

[shell void]

spectacular

[topaz veldt]

You guys playing BF4.2?

[merry stirrup]

REAL

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/valorant-bsite-vct-bind-spam-gif-1550168617042115072

[grave lion]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-damn-dayum-dayum-bird-gif-16011785186066468032

[merry stirrup]

DAMNATION

[grave lion]

DAYYYYMN

[merry stirrup]

this makes me want to test my quadro p620 in gaming

or trying to use 2 of them for gaming

[grave lion]

makes me want to SLI a xtx and 9070xt

[merry stirrup]

makes me want to explode

[grave lion]

makes me want to implode

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-gif-9435864923799777590

[grave lion]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[merry stirrup]

good evening chat

my new motherboard gets here tomorrow

[grave lion]

I built an abomination over the weekend

but it posted first try so im not ashamed

[pure garnet]

macpower

[grave lion]

[merry stirrup]

the peak of china board

[grave lion]

makes me want to puke

[pure garnet]

valorant just made my pc hit the apex pause switch

guess we're going back to cl30 and 2000fclk

[frail marlin]

i did benchmarks i see no difference in the scores
do i need specific benchmarks like meant to fully take all of my vram or is any gpu benchmark enough

[merry stirrup]

ryzen chips doing 24 hours of stress tests and then crashing when a particle effect and sound load at the same time

[pure garnet]

it just froze at jedec

okay!

[merry stirrup]

amd is flawless kyo

[merry stirrup]

lacks ram fan 0/10

[grave lion]

needs more fans imo

[merry stirrup]

needs at least 1 ram fan and not 4 dimms of whatever ram that is

[grave lion]

but it fits 13 tubs of yogurt

so who cares

[merry stirrup]

valid measurement method

[grave lion]

ok theres a good reason for that amount

[merry stirrup]

ok i believe you

[grave lion]

1. I got it for half off
2. I got it running full speed

[merry stirrup]

okay so theres

not a reason

[grave lion]

trust

also if I only had 2 itd look bad next to the 13 tubs of yogurt

[merry stirrup]

buy a board with only 2 slots

[grave lion]

I need less yogurt

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup rate the tune

[grave lion]

but in reality tho im just waiting to buy 2 higher speed sticks considering I spent like a grand re-building it already

[pure garnet]

if it crashes in val again im buying a 9950x3d

[merry stirrup]

6/19 scls and the rrds are so abhorrent, 10/10

[topaz veldt]

oh shit lol my 285K is still running JEDEC

[shell void]

optimal

[topaz veldt]

now i have to actually tune it

[merry stirrup]

i think i replace every fan in my computer with a p12 max

[topaz veldt]

i kind of like just making parts

[merry stirrup]

what do we think

[topaz veldt]

I won't put any more Arctics in my builds

[merry stirrup]

kvm that bitch for me

[shell void]

ok kyoko's pc just turned off while trying to play valorant with pbo disabled and default jedec memory

[topaz veldt]

oh thats fun - gigabyte board?

[shell void]

dragon

[topaz veldt]

Ah, hm

[vagrant cargo]

i heard there was intel news or something revealed today?

[merry stirrup]

y not

[shell void]

p12 max is obsoleted

[merry stirrup]

p12 pro i meant my bad

[shell void]

p12 pro >

[merry stirrup]

the new one™

and what do we think of a xeon w-1250 taking over for x99 server

[pure garnet]

apparently my 7800x3d is just straight dying floppa

at default settings it's freezing in valorant

[vagrant cargo]

also saw images of that cooler master case with a stand for a figure with lights apparently there is a version of it where behind the figure could be a led display?

[merry stirrup]

does it fail stresses?

[pure grail]

fate sign to buy 9800x3d

[topaz veldt]

I have another one clicking now, that makes 2 or 3

[pure garnet]

idk we didn't get that far yet

we were trying to play valorant

[topaz veldt]

maybe your 7800X3D is shedding its tophat inside

[pure garnet]

the cache is falling off fr

[merry stirrup]

whats a similar price ish fan (idk like 30% more per fan is fine) thats better?

[shell void]

it's a sign to daily drive the 265k instead

it justworksTM

[merry stirrup]

maybe look and see if your board is making it blow up or somethting idk lol

bros got the bulged cpu

[topaz veldt]

bequiet has good stuff

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-wave-whale-beluga-gif-4088357967626536008

What hump?

[merry stirrup]

💀

[topaz veldt]

Did you see HW Canucks new aio reviews?

I am intrigued by the fans on the Corsair Nautilus

[merry stirrup]

hear me out 3 on the rad

[merry stirrup]

y not the lianli

[shell void]

they dont exist

[merry stirrup]

are you telling me to buy p12 pros and just rma them if they click

i ran my 11700k on 1 fan on the 280 aio because the other one was clicking

[shell void]

lian li, phanteks, noctua, havn, and arctic make the best fans

theyre all expensive aside from arctic

[merry stirrup]

ok ill just buy a 5 pack

10$ delivery is an L

[topaz veldt]

T30s are so good

[merry stirrup]

i can only get p14's or p12 pro argbs delivered tomorrow

60$ for 6 of them is close to just buying a new aio

[topaz veldt]

lol

that new corsair that looks good is $89

[merry stirrup]

exactly

i can go to bb and pick that up rn or get 6 fans

[topaz veldt]

they have a non rgb for every cheaper

[merry stirrup]

not at my store but

[topaz veldt]

im gonna order the non rgb to try o ut

[merry stirrup]

i could order it

L shipping times, i dont want to have to re-open my pc after thursday

[topaz veldt]

i know the feeling

this white build has needed a million little things

[merry stirrup]

yeah and i dont even care if it looks great

if im going to rebuild the whole pc tomorrow i dont want to have to put in a new aio on monday

[topaz veldt]

yup

flops where you live

[merry stirrup]

oregon

[topaz veldt]

west coast right

[merry stirrup]

yea

y

[topaz veldt]

i have like 5 spare AIOs

but too far from you to get there

[merry stirrup]

for cheaply yea

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[pure garnet]

yeah i use it in my build

i like it so far, pumps quiet

i don't use the fans though bc i had a12s

[merry stirrup]

i can do shipping ig if its somethin nice

can get shipping label thru work theyd just take it out of my next check so not a prob

going to be real idk what to do next with the daily

[topaz veldt]

it would take like... a week though

[merry stirrup]

cheap aio is cheap aio

cost of aio goes into labor putting it into my computer LMAO

[topaz veldt]

Does anyone here have NF-A14x25 G2s?

[merry stirrup]

that is what i am currently dealing w

so tthats why a new aio is on the list

or i can just wait till i do dd w/mycro or similar

[edgy laurel]

til thermalright straight up lifted the deepcool block design

[merry stirrup]

lol

[shell void]

40 minutes later kyoko and i can finally play valorant (she switched to the u7 265k pc)

[pure garnet]

40 minutes into the valorant call and we just now get into a game

[stable turret]

yeh you can do ethereum mining which heavily relies on VRAM effective speed to see the net improvement of your overclocking.

[merry stirrup]

ryezn

[merry stirrup]

did you think i had a deepcool aio until now

[pure garnet]

having 2 pcs is so useful bro

[merry stirrup]

i have the 3600 + rtx 4k pc behindd me does that count

[edgy laurel]

tbh i dont' recall what cooler you had

[pure garnet]

p95 hasn't errored yet

idk what could be wrong with it

[merry stirrup]

somethin somethin ryzen fclk when you play a game

do other ue5 titles do it?

[pure garnet]

it's all at floppa

idk we haven't gone that far

i tried jedec ram, and now optimized defaults

[merry stirrup]

😭

[slate forum]

I still have a deepcool cooler in my PC lol

[edgy laurel]

same

[merry stirrup]

can get this tomorrow if i want to amazon something

i think i might just go to best buy tomorrow and buy the naut

[edgy laurel]

atmos, aye?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

if my cpu is actually dead 9800x3d for 460 or 9950x3d for 650

i have it running stresses rn to make sure it is though

[merry stirrup]

9800x3d and then wait for nvl and buy top end sku

[slate forum]

I'd probably go with the 98

[merry stirrup]

or both 9950x3d and top end nvl

[slim pebble]

9800X3D if you just game, 9950X3D only if you need to do any work that wont work fine on an 8 core. An 8 core can do 99% of everything perfectly fine.

[pure garnet]

rn i usually do the stuff on the 265k but

having the 1 computer for builds would be cool

[shell void]

52 core novalake is too juicy to pass up, idgaf if it's not gaming meta

[slate forum]

I am still rocking the 5800X3D and it's doing great work

[slim pebble]

Even if only 16 of those are p-cores, the 52 core NVL is going to be fire.

I assume the ecores are going to be as good or better than ARL, which are pretty good.

[slim pebble]

Don’t pretend you won’t buy one 5nail5. Or two to get a god bin 😄

[pure garnet]

1 game in and michaels mouse died

like gone dead

[frank zealot]

fuck, I forgot I have a CPU Frame >.<
Is it worth it to test another 265K in my board to see if the silicon's better?

[shell void]

false alarm

it could be my chinese usb switch but i replugged and it's fine

[pure garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683114178084339737/1423377185003274281/tenor.gif

i may not be a smart person i've been running p95 small to test issues occuring at 1t loads

[brisk jolt]

the lion waits and does not concern himself with his 9800x3d and assrock combo

[steel stream]

kaboom

[frank zealot]

fuckity: Do I tear apart this PC and test the second chip. >.<

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-26895027

[frank zealot]

mostly it's the fact it's got a frame on the CPU, and replacing that is annoying

[zenith fog]

9800x3d and 4070ti super build

[pure garnet]

that seems fine tbh

[zenith fog]

3800

[frank zealot]

at a loss? lolwut

[zenith fog]

How

[pure garnet]

i looked at the specs not the price

myb

[zenith fog]

There’s only about maybe 2k worth of parts lol

[frank zealot]

they're both good parts, just not 4K good lol

[merry stirrup]

yes and sauce for putting it on is finger tight btw

i know you dont care about mem freq but seems tobe the best overall

[frank zealot]

well, my RAM ran at 8000 MT/s stock voltage (with super shit timings)

which I thought was hilarious

[merry stirrup]

like this

[merry stirrup]

mhmm all a die does 8k it seems

[frank zealot]

not that, this:

fuckit, I'ma do the thing.

Wish me few complications

[slim pebble]

It’s not bad, just make sure you tighten each a little at a time, and only half turn past “tight”. Any T30 Torx should work.

[frank zealot]

it's not hard just annoying

[slim pebble]

It does nothing for AMD, but I loathe thermal paste mess.

[frank zealot]

and I may be doing it twice

[merry stirrup]

same thing

[slim pebble]

That’s like one-wipe with an alcohol soaked paper towel, no mess, no paste in the cracks.

[merry stirrup]

that’s just example photo

[brisk jolt]

“im selling at a loss”
“your loss*”

[shell void]

it looks coo

[merry stirrup]

calm luh puter

[slim pebble]

It’s just stupid easy to clean.

[shell void]

it would look sweet with a lapped ihs

[brisk jolt]

Yeah the paste just goes into those littlr crevices without it

[slim pebble]

The little thermal paste GUARDS (ok warship?) you can buy for the standard ILM don’t work as well, they’re messier.

These things will stick to the block and come off, getting paste where you don’t want it.

[zenith fog]

Exactly

[pure garnet]

okay apparently vanguard corrupted itself and that just hard locked the pc

that was cheaper than buying a new cpu at least

spoke too soon

[frank zealot]

@steel stream what are the odds two 265k's get the exact same rating in the asrock bios

[hoary hatch]

What's the torque spec tho

[wise bear]

500 ft/lb

[minor herald]

there not realy a point of LM on the IHS

IHS is allread the bottle neck not the TIM

like lapping the ihs or swaping to after market one that 2mm thiner are some options that are larger thermal gains then LM

[slim pebble]

I’m talking about just not making a mess with regular thermal paste

[minor herald]

no point then

[slim pebble]

I’m not using lm (yet) that’ll be when I try to delid

[minor herald]

https://tenor.com/bXFVN.gif

[minor herald]

no joke cpu/mobo still works with out cleenin

[brisk jolt]

average riot experience

[pure garnet]

nah it was misinfo i spread

my pc still fucked i'll go grab a 9800x3d in the morrow

[brisk jolt]

[topaz veldt]

I wouldn't bother honestly

[topaz veldt]

You should see the torque on the crank bolt on my engine(s)

[pure garnet]

6800 1:1 godbin please best buy

[shell void]

6600 gdm off & 2200fclk for sure

[stable turret]

time to run 3dmark

[topaz veldt]

have you?

[stable turret]

yeh i did and posted the result here before

[topaz veldt]

Record holder

[stable turret]

no

[pure garnet]

at 1.1v soc

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup my usb is dropping out in safe mode

[merry stirrup]

this is fire

try a bios reflash?

[pure garnet]

im going to best buy at open

i'll do it with the new cpu at jedec

[shell void]

idk seems like a single point of failure to me brother snail

[topaz veldt]

nah.. here look

Module 1 and Module 2 are "A-side" and "B-side"

[pure garnet]

are you implying i should buy the seasonic vertex px 1200w?

is the leadex se killing my cpus

[topaz veldt]

BUT... if you hit a bug... like we did... and the two stop orchestrating failover to one another, every server in the chassis is in the splash zone

Another other other issue is that you will notice that there are only so many ports into those IFM modules

[shell void]

this is genius cisco design

[topaz veldt]

That means that NVMeoF, ethernet, FC, etc. traffic is all aggregated

[shell void]

one part of one of my servers has an issue so now the whole rack is down

[topaz veldt]

so as the platforms go on, we now have Xeon 6 in these which can have like multiple 100 Gbps NICs... but guess what? I only have like 200 Gbps of connectivity to each chassis

I can populate more ports on those modules... but that means I can have fewer chassis per Fabric Interconnect

so now I am balancing port density and IO... and its chasing your tail

If I go rack mount, yes, I have to have the teams cable shit, and there are some inherent boot issues/changes, but now every 1U of compute will have dedicated bandwidth to the leaf switch

But I am constantly trying to meet business unit needs/wants while also making sure the architecture/infrastructure isn't handicapped somewhere in the near future

[shell void]

do they have you on a shoe string budget

[topaz veldt]

I mean... we're always trying to spend as little as possible, but they have an understanding of what it costs to do this shit

The compute platform we're looking at is $30M

The problem is it fundamentally changes how we do stuff in some regards

[shell void]

do you think this will be required soon

with how I/O demands have been scaling quickly

[topaz veldt]

yes

but its also software driven, too

We need to get off some software due to license and fuckery

[shell void]

whenever i look at how businesses get screwed by license pricing schemes i get angry

[topaz veldt]

So the new platform is notably faster (even with the same CPUs/mem) and it will be a new software platform

[topaz veldt]

Broadcom

[shell void]

are they especially bad?

or good

[topaz veldt]

horrible

VMware under Dell was reasonable - we're basically being extorted

[shell void]

i havent looked deeply into it, ive just heard of core-based licensing and im like wtf

[topaz veldt]

put it this way - $30M project will save us money

[shell void]

that's lame because they make frickin awesome switch chips

[topaz veldt]

eh

they are just a holdings company - they buy everyone

This is what i'll be buying like 300 of

[shell void]

tomahawk is so op

i cannot fathom one chip handling 1.6TbE

i think this is the newest jawn

[topaz veldt]

The sick part is that I'll be able to cable 25-100 Gbps per port directly to the leafs, no IFM/FEX bullshit

so NVMeoF and all that fun shit is full blast

[topaz veldt]

we have 400 Gbps (maybe 800 Gbps) stuff from "Mellanox"

[shell void]

im having to google shiz as you say it because i never hear these terms

[shell void]

i would assume that mellanox is the goat because of nvidia buying them

i know a lot of home labbers shill mellanox nics

[topaz veldt]

yessir

homelabbers are using mellanox like connectx3 and 4

[wicked urchin]

tbf: it was already kinda the goat before nvidia buying them

[topaz veldt]

thats well before nvidia

[shell void]

those are so frickin old

[topaz veldt]

yup

but look up like connectX-6

prob still $300-400 on ebay

[wicked urchin]

connectx4 is still up to 50gbits iirc

[shell void]

less than i thought actually

[topaz veldt]

thats QSFP+

single port QSFP+ is not very useful, hence the price

[shell void]

would that not be kosher for a dude that just wants a couple devices on 100Gb?

[wicked urchin]

you can still get a CRS504-4XQ-IN and be fine

[topaz veldt]

then why not just get a 25 Gbps NIC for $20

[wicked urchin]

because then you dont have 100gbits?

[shell void]

25Gb is snail mail speed you must understand brother

[topaz veldt]

that card above won't give you 100 Gbps

it'll give you multiple 25 Gbps in one port

[shell void]

that's a mean heatsink for a single port nic

[topaz veldt]

for 100 Gbps you need QSFP-DD

[topaz veldt]

Yeah these are what I have

[wicked urchin]

i thought that just does LAG and you essentially have a 100gbits connection with some overhead?

[shell void]

ASTAGHFIRULLAH

[topaz veldt]

No you have 4 x 25 Gbps but you have only singular 25 Gbps streams per MAC

[shell void]

i wouldnt expect leading edge tech to be assembled in India

[topaz veldt]

lowest bidder

[wise bear]

expect the unexpected

[wicked urchin]

ok thats actually not that great

i mean depends on your applications of course

for many situations thats completely fine

but if you want to transfer stuff at 100gbit speed, its definitely shit

[topaz veldt]

for MPIO its fine, but then also you get into topology reasons why you don't want 4x25 Gbps out a single port

[shell void]

i wonder if we'll start seeing 25gbase-t and 40gbase-t equipment now that realtek made a 10gbase-t nic that only puts out 2W of heat

i hope not tbh

[wicked urchin]

i dont think so

[wise bear]

2w 10g nic? damb

[shell void]

yeah rtl8127

super tiny chip that doesnt even need a heatspreader, it's starting to pop up in some new motherboards

that tiny little dude there

[wise bear]

aww, its so cute

[pure garnet]

yeah imma still use the old 20w intel one bro

just because it says intel

[shell void]

Asus B850M-Ace and Aorus X870E Master X3D have it, probably other boards too but i havent looked

i expect most of the z890 refresh boards to use it

[pure garnet]

my 1995 x540-t2 will not leave its post

[shell void]

i should check if my x540 screams like the x550s do

i dont remember it doing it

[pure garnet]

i reinstalled everything but my operating system so tommorow starts my zen 5 journey

[wicked urchin]

thats awesome, cant wait for that to become widely available

[shell void]

time to get 15% more fps in a tavern full of catgirls in ffxiv

[pure garnet]

hell yeah brother

those catgirls will be rizzed by my 2400 fclk god sample

[shell void]

my keeb is being a little funky too so it's probably the chineseum usb switch

[pure garnet]

do i just buy all 3 they have and return the 2 that aren’t the best

i’m going right at open

[shell void]

yeah we've essentially reached endgame for rj45 which is nice

most good boards are going to have builtin low power 10gb so it wont be something to think about anymore

[wicked urchin]

tp link has a pretty affordable rj45 10gbit switch available too, so this really is bringing 10gbit to the mainstream

[brisk jolt]

gang i just came outta a networking class

i looked away for a minute and the lecturer fucking jumped 3 steps

[wicked urchin]

and i predict thats gonna be enough then for another 10 years at least, before theres movement for more. similar to gigabit.

cant even imagine home users coming close to maxing out 10gbit for a long time

[teal orbit]

any of you guys have experience shopping for kvm switches? I need something that supports 3 monitors and 2 computers, not really sure how to choose among the thousands of junk under $100 on aliexpress

[wicked urchin]

if you want to have a reliable premium product without tons of stupid issues and edge-cases: level1 tech has you covered. i personally use an atens switch, but while high quality and reliable, they are quite outdated feature-wise unfortunately

[teal orbit]

i think i heard of them, but the only thing i saw was like $750

this pc only needs 1080p144 😭

do you know what kind of issues and edge cases we would run into?

[pure garnet]

i bought a cheap one and it was doa

[teal orbit]

did you buy another cheap one that wasnt doa

[pure garnet]

no i went for the usb switch only method

[teal orbit]

this is supposed to be for the computers at a school club and we are poor

the threadripper computer that runs airflow simulations has to share monitors with a regular workstation

[wicked urchin]

mostly usb wonkiness with some devices and problems with screens not waking up from sleep, that kinda things are pretty common.

if you dont have much of a budget and dont have high requirements, you can just buy the cheapo ones on amazon and give it a shot. send it back if it doesnt work as expected. you can get some decent ones for under 100 dollars and they mostly work fine.

[teal orbit]

that's fair

i would've thought the usb would be the least likely thing to break given it's a lot easier to make wires for than display... but oh well

[wicked urchin]

youd think so, but switching usb devices back and forth between computers and them reliably discovering them without crashes isnt as trivial as youd think. you can get fiber optics hdmi and displayport cables, plug them in, works like a charm. fiber optics usb cables? oh boy, thats a MASSIVE can of worms with more problems than i have time to list

[versed crow]

how does it have a tracking number if it hasnt been posted? im assuming not posted means item is still with the seller

[fervent elm]

I have a better question, why did you buy a gt210

[lone scarab]

why do you have money

[brisk jolt]

when you register something the code is generated

so its likely already registered to be shipped

[hidden birch]

Is Adaptive Sync a type of VRR? I'm going to upgrade my display to an OLED in a bit and that display features Adaptive Sync

[dapper junco]

Yep, it's VESA name for the VRR protocol on displayport

both nvidia and amd support this type of VRR, of course through displayport connection only

[hidden birch]

Nice, thank you!

[livid flame]

There’s a lot of high quality corn out there to max it out.

[lone scarab]

love watching corn

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-brainwormism-gif-3108294868786947348

[devout ridge]

i need 10gbit for my linux ISOs

[vocal plume]

If i cant download my linux ISOs within seconds I dont want it

[shell void]

man linux iso downloads are slow

you guys must be downloading like ten at one time to utilize a decent amount of bandwidth

[vocal plume]

I only keep the ISOs i need at least so downloading won't be a problem after the first time

[devout ridge]

that’s why you torrent them

[oak vector]

we love Linux isos

[livid flame]

That’s why he needs 10gbit internet

[wise bear]

[topaz veldt]

Guys I have to say... I think this white build might be my favorite from a design/layout/customization perspective

[wise bear]

It do be perty

[topaz veldt]

but all of the ARGB cables and fan cables and shit are all tucked and routed hidden

now I just need to get all the air out of this MF

[livid flame]

Use an air extracting vacuum

[topaz veldt]

I vacuum filled it

You can't extract air from it, it will extract coolant as well

[livid flame]

Sure you can. We just need to invent it first

[topaz veldt]

but when there are such firm soft lines and distro plate and radiator capacity you need a serious vacuum pump to make it anywhere near airless

[livid flame]

Whoever invents that machine will be rich. I believe in you snail.

[topaz veldt]

I wish the GPU was white, but whatever

lol EOL - duh

Should say "Never worked ever"

@shell void you are very critical of my almost white build, what are decent white DIMMs out there

[fringe vigil]

Snail

g

[steel stream]

Can we not put politics in TC2 please

[heavy mantle]

yess

its funny how that was a discussion yesterday and my entire youtube feed is all about it lmao

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[topaz veldt]

you first

[strange ginkgo]

if i mount a drive as a folder in windows
is there a way to view how full the drive is?

[steel stream]

just right-click then properties no?

[topaz veldt]

Disk Management

[steel stream]

that too

[wise bear]

you should be mapping it as a network drive

not just mounting a fileshare

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-proart-8k-pa32kcx-display-launches-this-month-worlds-first-8k-hdr-mini-led

[edgy laurel]

wanna see what Apple comes up with for the next Pro Display XDR

[frank zealot]

okay 8k 32" is.... overkill

[steel stream]

bare minimum tbh

[edgy laurel]

na, the density is fantastic

except when you try to run adobe programs

[topaz veldt]

lol

I was just going to say...

[frank zealot]

do those actually ever run?

[edgy laurel]

cause you know you'll be at like 300% scaling.. or more

[topaz veldt]

and still can't see

[strange ginkgo]

wouldn't that also use a drive letter?

[frank zealot]

okay, and?

Do you use all 26 drive letters?

[steel stream]

I'm out of drive letters

[wise bear]

yes?

[edgy laurel]

so the Dell UP3218K has been available for years, i wonder how those people who bought it have faired

[frank zealot]

I actually did that once, it was hilarious

[edgy laurel]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1324922-REG/dell_up3218k_ultrasharp_32_ultra.html

[strange ginkgo]

yeah thats what I'm worried about thats why i want to mount them in folder to begin with

[wise bear]

????????

[frank zealot]

What the fuck are you mapping to use two dozen drives

[wise bear]

stop storage pooling on windows you lunatic

[topaz veldt]

Why are you using mount points lol

[steel stream]

why are they all moons

[wise bear]

Autism, that's why

My whole network is spacey-themed

[edgy laurel]

gotta have a theme

thats as good as any

[frank zealot]

I love how that's a perfectly cogent response for nearly anything someone could ask

[steel stream]

sweet

[wise bear]

✨ autism ✨

[steel stream]

Local Disk and New Volume 💪

[oak vector]

🔥

[strange ginkgo]

well you get the idea

[wise bear]

OH THATS RIGHT I forgot DNF is like, megaweird

[oak vector]

“Why is your whole bedroom raaf themed Billy”
Uhh I like planes :3

[frank zealot]

if all of those are individually connected, I feel sorry for your build

[wise bear]

hardware init on post must be miserable

[edgy laurel]

i love how they're wedged in there

between the brackets

[strange ginkgo]

via usb yeah

[topaz veldt]

This is just pointless

[oak vector]

Jbod?

[wise bear]

VIA USB

[edgy laurel]

USB??

[wise bear]

WHAT

[oak vector]

omfg

[frank zealot]

no, individual drives

[wise bear]

Why does this anger me

[topaz veldt]

JBOD is individual drives

[edgy laurel]

so each one us connected via a SATA to USB adapter?

[wise bear]

storage pooling over usb what the fuck

[strange ginkgo]

at's all direct attached storage

not a nas

[oak vector]

I think im gonna napalm this guys house

[wise bear]

dude just build a fucking nas

[topaz veldt]

JBOD isn't a NAS

[frank zealot]

that'd make too much sense

[oak vector]

Not with that attitude

[wise bear]

jbod is just a bunch of disks :3

[oak vector]

So true queen :3

They’re just lil guys
Spinny spinny

[frank zealot]

That's.... that's a hell of a setup I gotta say

points for creativity? I guess?

[merry stirrup]

i think i’m gonna watch scarface at work

[steel stream]

Nice "deal" (it's always been priced 254.99)

[pure garnet]

the back of my 7800x3d is all discolored

was it about to explode 😭

[teal orbit]

who uses jbod instead of just making a bunch of separate shares for each drive

[topaz veldt]

they naturally have variations in color

[teal orbit]

paying for less redundancy

[steel stream]

send a picture of it

[pure garnet]

i’ll try and get a pic in better lighting once i get the new cpu in

but at an angle there’s a brown spot

[shell void]

maybe your cranked vddio did damage it

[pure garnet]

the 1.65v incident

[shell void]

almost white xdddd

[pure garnet]

or the 1.3v soc incident

[topaz veldt]

I ran 1.35 vsoc for a long time

in my beast of a 7950X3D man oh man

6800 1:1

[shell void]

32GB high speed dimms are coming out now which i’m interested in

[topaz veldt]

what we talking about high speed

[pure garnet]

surely this is my 9800x3d

[topaz veldt]

In stock now?

[shell void]

mhm

[topaz veldt]

Do they have XMP

[shell void]

idk if they’re good i just saw them

[wise bear]

better idea

[topaz veldt]

V-Color is hit and miss unfortunately

[wise bear]

Find heat spreaders you really like, paint white, put on any dimm that's stupid fast

Problem solved

[topaz veldt]

the prob is the RGB element is not universal

[wise bear]

True.

[topaz veldt]

I want to pick up like 8000 - 8400 DIMMs in white

[wise bear]

god that's so stupid fast

[topaz veldt]

well im running 9000 CKs right now lol]

[shell void]

they’re glazing gigabyte a lot in the details

[topaz veldt]

ROFL OLED display on DIMMs oh ffs

[shell void]

make an offer is funny to me, has anyone tried haggling with newegg?

[topaz veldt]

I just want basic ass white DIMMs

[steel stream]

i think people have said that it just never works out, even if it is like one cent below the asking price

[dim crag]

hi chat kind of a stupid question but I have an old dell OptiPlex 790 with i3-2120, 16GB RAM, Intel HD 2000. And i got like 60$ for birthday money so is it worth buying an AMD Radeon RX 6300 low-profile gpu An external 1tb ssd or save up? I mostly play older games (CS2, Portal, Half-Life, GTA V, etc.)

[wise bear]

2nd gen core omg

just get a new pc tbh

[dim crag]

yeah ik its hot grabage at this point but its all i got

[dim crag]

yeah i cant lol

[pure garnet]

save up

[dim crag]

ok

[wise bear]

winter is coming, prepare the snow shovel

[pure garnet]

get a cheap ssd if you’re on a hard drive

[wise bear]

^

[pure garnet]

otherwise save up

[dim crag]

yeah ok thanks guys

[wise bear]

good luck

[shell void]

there are only a few options for white and/or silver from what i see

royals with the lighting set to white could be cool

[topaz veldt]

royals... hm

[merry stirrup]

the tg elites

my bad extreems like mike sent

[wise bear]

gm flooper

[merry stirrup]

good morning

[arctic bronze]

😛

[pure garnet]

it defaults to 5600mt/s at 2000 fclk @shell void

[shell void]

time to see if you can play valorant with no pbo and 5600 jedec

[pure garnet]

actually with pbo and jedec it’s chilling

[heavy mantle]

you just woke up

[shell void]

instantly +200 -40 and then never stress test

[heavy mantle]

wait i forgot not everyone is in texas

[arctic bronze]

I woke up 2 hours ago at 8am

[heavy mantle]

even tho plsu or minus one hour form me so like either 11 or 9 holy

[pure garnet]

trying to clean it’s dead brother is awful

[heavy mantle]

i woke up at 6:30 cuz my danm sisters needed something as a joke brah

[arctic bronze]

Lol

[heavy mantle]

what-

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d died yday

[wise bear]

😔

[merry stirrup]

DAMN

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-alone-gif-19479028

[pure garnet]

time to see if we do 6600 2200 fclk

[arctic bronze]

ZAMN 😛😛😛😛

[pure garnet]

i’ve unlocked a new error on my post code lmfao

okay we don’t have the bin of the gods

[arctic bronze]

You have the bin of the bin (trash)

[steel stream]

Guys do I buy godzilla merch or the Jonsbo N5

[arctic bronze]

Jonsbo

[shell void]

chin up sister 6600 2200 is like 1/150

[frank zealot]

N5 hands down

[pure garnet]

it would’ve been awesome sauce

[granite dirge]

I'm so excited. Got past the phone interview and have a in person interview tomorrow for Ikea!

[pure garnet]

am i crazy or is that bandwidth super low @shell void

[topaz veldt]

trefi of 12000 and CL 52 lol

[pure garnet]

yeah i left everything at auto to see if it would boot 6400

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats going to result in low throughput

[pure garnet]

i should probably put real timings in

[topaz veldt]

regardless of M/Ts

I would find 6400 CL32 EXPO kit primaries and put those in, 1.4v, and 65535 trefi and go from there

[pure garnet]

i have some

i can't run max refi yet though, haven't found a fan mount online

i don't own a 3d printer to make one like you have

[steel stream]

whoopsie turns out I've had the wrong phone number in my Newegg account for a long time

[pure garnet]

best buy employee wanted me to pay for cpu installation

[steel stream]

what did you tell them

[arctic bronze]

Tf, why lmao

[steel stream]

BestBuy knows best

[pure garnet]

i just said no thanks

but if i’m there 5 minutes after opening to buy a cpu you’d figure i know what i want

[topaz veldt]

6400 CL32 65535 should be completely doable

[pure garnet]

with no fan over it?

yeah that made a difference

[topaz veldt]

just go to 65535

[frank zealot]

Oh, oh no, I just discovered something terrible...

Boston has a Bottomless Shabu Wagyu place.

I'm in fuckin' danger.

[wise bear]

annual membership fee

[signal parrot]

90 minute limit bruh

[heavy mantle]

you want more?

i mean its expensive and i see your point

but like holy 90 mins thats like 3/4 of a uni lecture

[signal parrot]

when im going out with friends we easily stay 2-3 hours or more. just makes me feel rushed and i aint like that

[heavy mantle]

ohh

i thought the premise of people going there is shoving as much meat down there thoughts as possible to get use of there money

[steel stream]

2-3 hours damn

[steel stream]

yeah

[heavy mantle]

max i take to eat is idk 30-40 mins, and 1 to 1:30 hours if am watching a video plus going to the bathroom or soemthing

[frank zealot]

optional, it saves you 7 bucks when you go lol

[signal parrot]

we arent going out often so its more of a catch up aswell. so main meal + a few rounds of drinks.

[frank zealot]

I hope you tip well, because you're costing your server money

[heavy mantle]

usally tipping is 15% of the meal being paid

[signal parrot]

servers are paid here but also yes we do tip. also they arent paid per amount of spend per their table

i aint from the usa

[heavy mantle]

well for me it is atleast

[frank zealot]

if you're in america, that's kinda a weak tip

[heavy mantle]

...

[merry stirrup]

dawg im 19 i get shitty service anywhere

[heavy mantle]

honestly

i might never tip , tip culture is ridiculous

[wise bear]

i tipped the waitress at ta ra rin like 30%

[pure garnet]

tips being a % of an order makes no sense to me

but i just don't go to sit down places to avoid dealing with it

[steel stream]

I typically do 18-20% if I am at a sit down place

[heavy mantle]

it kinda feels like your giving them a donation of sort

[pure garnet]

what difference does the 10 dollar chicker finger and the 30 dollar steak cost you work wise when they're both 1 trip

[heavy mantle]

and plus am not tipping more for shity services

[wise bear]

we wouldn't have tip culture in america if companies paid their employees livable wages but teehee gotta stay cheap for max y-o-y revenue

[heavy mantle]

or for normal thing sthat requires minimal effort

[steel stream]

if it's a sitdown I tip, standing order maybe, kiosk hell nah

[frank zealot]

yawn

[heavy mantle]

they do you no service basically

okay side convo for a bit

[frank zealot]

Tell me you've never worked a service job without telling me you've never worked a service job

[heavy mantle]

i was thinking of getting a 420 rad on the 10980

10980xe*

[frank zealot]

Probably more rad than it needs, but it's not especially excessive

[heavy mantle]

am trying to push 4.8 on all cores

so yeah it kinda needs it, but i am thinking of a delid plus liquid metal on it

[frank zealot]

how many watts are you pushing, that's really what matters.

Also: how good is your block and microfin coverage

[heavy mantle]

its not going to be a walk int he park but ill try

[heavy mantle]

the cpu isnt here until nov 10

[frank zealot]

a bigger rad won't help if you're not running it on a good block

[heavy mantle]

so am asuming form what i seen from others around idk 250wish maybe more

[heavy mantle]

or instead get an aio of the same size to handle that effort as am not too comfy with doing costume loops yet

[frank zealot]

you're not going to find many good AIO's for that socket

x299 is a weird shape and most AIO's don't support it

[heavy mantle]

shoot

[frank zealot]

it's not LGA1200, it's a bigger socket, so you need something built for it

[pure garnet]

that still didn’t explain why the tip is an arbitrary percentage

[heavy mantle]

well am either forced to learn todo a loop or find a rare x299 one

[pure garnet]

if i’m going somewhere as a single person ordering a single item

how is it more work per cost?

[frank zealot]

I can't be arsed at this point. I don't want to deal with this.

[pure garnet]

?

it's not some trick question i literally just don't get the logic

[heavy mantle]

okay so they do exsists just need a mounting brakcets for it

[pure garnet]

is there more work involved in asking the chef for a steak over the tendies

[heavy mantle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/336180506882?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-166974-028196-7&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=336180506882&targetid=2275367127251&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9028313&poi=&campaignid=22804398616&mkgroupid=183108416112&rlsatarget=pla-2275367127251&abcId=10387475&merchantid=101729145&geoid=9028313&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22804398616&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh-66j4sy55Zeud-nyF6KrjR6&gclid=CjwKCAjwr8LHBhBKEiwAy47uUiSRpRBoy5ceCQtnxvhIuRX8uhtbSLGk338dlDTLH_WFWA-lUCsaEhoCoK4QAvD_BwE

[pure garnet]

then say that

[steel stream]

wait whoops

[pure garnet]

curse u akn

[steel stream]

I misread your message, give me one second

[heavy mantle]

so this might be the best bang for the buck for my situation

and from the artic freeze's website they do state x299 combatibilty so i might go with it then

[signal parrot]

average american being confronted with american tipping culture

[heavy mantle]

its only 70 bucks so its not expensive too and wayy less handle than the costume loop

[frank zealot]

incorrect, I just have limited capacity to deal with people being intentionally obtuse

[heavy mantle]

i dont think he was arguing about that btw

[pure garnet]

im actually asking

but this interaction has told me that servers just want a giant cut for no reason

[wise bear]

because they're painfully underpaid

[frank zealot]

how much do you think servers get paid an hour

[pure garnet]

but again how does this tie into a fixed percentage

[wise bear]

wym fixed percentage, where's that coming from

[pure garnet]

them making $2.13/hr before comp doesn't change my question on why am i expected to tip 15% instead of just a reasonable amount

[wise bear]

it's just a default suggested value..

[pure garnet]

because the cost of the item isn't dictating the amount of service im receiving

[heavy mantle]

okay so lets see 350 usd for cpu, about 80 for he mobo, i already have the gpu case fans psu and storage from random stuff i have around, andddd 70 for the aio, so thats like 150 plus 350 so 500 in all its not expensive really oh wow

[wise bear]

tip more, tip less, there's no law stating you have to tip a distinct percentage

at least to my knowledge

[pure garnet]

like im not against tipping people i just don't get why people expect a percentage (that keeps growing) over just like

if you're there about an hour leaving an hour of a normal wage seems fair

[steel stream]

tips are usually also shared between back and front of house, so the chefs do get a portion of it

[wise bear]

thats why I always tip direct to the person

[hoary hatch]

I hope the Applebee's chef isn't struggling 🥺

[heavy mantle]

what about droping 1 mill like the beats you are?

[wise bear]

chefs get paid way more than servers

[heavy mantle]

nuke that place

[wise bear]

applebabble

[frank zealot]

what is an hour of normal wage

[steel stream]

oh so you are saying that you don't understand why we don't pay the servers for their time, instead of the fixed percentage

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/microwave-amazed-stunned-cooking-dumbfounded-gif-14084774

[pure garnet]

yeah

[heavy mantle]

not a single time in my life have iever heard or seen a single person wanting to go to apple bees man

[hoary hatch]

Applebee's "chef"

[steel stream]

Applebees head chef Mike, aged 17 is high as kite every shift

[wise bear]

oh you mean the microwave?

[pure garnet]

like i’m fine with leaving like 15 bucks i just don’t get why we push for percentages

[hoary hatch]

Yes

If Applebee's is feeling fancy they'll upgrade the chef to an air fryer

[wise bear]

or an actual fryer

[frank zealot]

If you're at a Chili's? That's probably fine.

If you're at somewhere nice? you're an asshole

[wise bear]

don't be the dingleberry that leaves a fake bill only for it to be christian propaganda

[frank zealot]

If I was a server getting those, I'd be lighting those people on fire

[wise bear]

I will deck you

[hoary hatch]

What if it's Nvidia propaganda

[shell void]

you need to leave a $50 bill for the waiter that brought your plates and filled up your water one time

[pure garnet]

well i wouldn’t be going to like the ritz anyway

[wise bear]

you put on the ritz, you don't go to it

duhh

[hoary hatch]

Ugh why doesn't every restaurant just give me a pitcher of ice water when I sit down

Having to wait for someone to fill my water every 5 minutes is so annoying

[pure garnet]

i don’t think i’ve gone to like an actual “fancy” restaurant in a long time

[frank zealot]

15 bucks is perfectly reasonable on a 60-80 dollar tab.

It's overkill on 30, but also woefully weak on 120+

[pure garnet]

yeah i’m talking about like

[steel stream]

how can it be propaganda? It's our savior Nvidia 🙏

[pure garnet]

cheaper sit down places

[wise bear]

Nbibla

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/aew-roh-mark-pro-wrestling-undisputed-kingdom-gif-15675633974125546778

[heavy mantle]

that happned to me back in 2015 lmfao

[wise bear]

we love mark here

[frank zealot]

so you're still talking about percentages without actually trying to talk about percentages

[heavy mantle]

i was at costco

[steel stream]

Me when I haven't heard back from the NVIDIA internships I applied to

[wise bear]

I genuinely hate purposefully cheap people who pull shit like that

[heavy mantle]

omg warship

[heavy mantle]

yeah

[pure garnet]

i’ve gotten a few of those on campus

[wise bear]

WILL PUNCH

[heavy mantle]

it was at costco when the lady giving out these bills was talkign about failed ar school guy and she was handing these bills out lmao

[frank zealot]

If I go spend 20 bucks at somewhere and get a burger and soda?

I'm not tipping 15 bucks

But if I buy a 50$ Steak plus some other shit, I'm certainly tipping a lot more than I did on a 20 buck meal.

[wise bear]

that makes me ree so hard i swear to fuck

[heavy mantle]

i think i still had the bill

its like a 1 trilion dollar or smthn

i just used it to play monoply lol

[shell void]

i luv this design

[steel stream]

bare minimum res for 32" tbh

[frank zealot]

it comes witt the visor?

why is my keyboard being so shitty? I may hav to replace it. fuck 😕

[merry stirrup]

muh power is almost here

its being delivered to work so i'll be able to inspect the socket

[pure garnet]

i think i have a 1.3v soc 6400 chip

[merry stirrup]

that mf said he mightve put the socket cover on

[frank zealot]

fuckkyou eyboard why n''tyou fckkypiwi'm yping.

[merry stirrup]

the new one? LOL

[pure garnet]

so better than macs but worse than michaels

yeah unless my timings are cooked

1.25 boots but now that i set timings it's karhu keepfest

[shell void]

1.3vsoc 6400 not worth, your 2133fclk stability will probably be flakey

[pure garnet]

i'm just seeing if it'll do it before i load my 6000 2000 profile i just remade

i don't think i entered anything stupid

[shell void]

this is what i run on a-die, im still not really familiar with m-die because i only played with it for a couple hours and failed

[merry stirrup]

apparently mdie is just bad on zen4 btw and does 100ns trfc

[pure garnet]

that’s h16m

[merry stirrup]

yes thats what i meant

[pure garnet]

i thought the 160ns floor was an h24m quirk

[topaz veldt]

h24m

[merry stirrup]

why must i get so much conflicting info hold on let me go look around more

[pure garnet]

gonna try a lower vsoc again

1.27 time

[merry stirrup]

i cant find anything that confirms its h24m it seems like its h16m

[pure garnet]

i can drop my trfc and not post if you'd like

[merry stirrup]

bz didnt run 100ns on h24m on any of his videos it looks like

[pure garnet]

the lowest timing bz rec's for h24m is 512 trfc at 6000

at 6400 it's 544 and 672 for all the relevant gear 2 speeds

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats not 100ns

[pure garnet]

okay yeah it needs 1.3v for 6400

[merry stirrup]

apparently on h16m it only floors at 160ns on zen4