tech-chat-2

[arctic bronze]

ye

[brisk jolt]

yes and no

[tall pebble]

Well either, way thanks my head has cleaned up a bit 😛

[tall pebble]

That's why i said "possible"

we don't have too much info now.

[brisk jolt]

the 7600X is by no means a slow CPU, you’d lose out compared to X3D but being on AM5 means you have an opportunity to go to Zen 6

[tall pebble]

or maybe i look it from wrong perspective, most of the time i was always's gpu bound not CPU so there is that.

[tall pebble]

There is also that

[brisk jolt]

If ur literally on anything 7500F and above you’re pretty set

[tall pebble]

I mean, I could return the 9800X3D, get a 7500F from a friend for $20, wait for Zen 6, and then grab the 10800X3D along with a new GPU.

[brisk jolt]

What card are you grabbing

That is not next gen

[tall pebble]

i mean zen 6 releases along UDNA so i meant it as i will get new CPU and New Gpu at the same time

right now i have old 3070 ti

i dont have plans for getting anything currently

[brisk jolt]

what cpu rn or u looking at options

because that GPU is the one suffering way more first than any AM5 cpu except 8000 series

[tall pebble]

if i were to return 9800x3d now, 7700 or 9600x or 7500f from a friend

Though i'm getting a bit lost because of your questions.

[brisk jolt]

me when no pricing info

[tall pebble]

166,47 EUR 7700
20 EUR 7500F
188 EUR 9600x

I bough 9800x3d for 431 EUR

[vagrant cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omDLcfLMYZg

[bitter shuttle]

who even want that

[vagrant cargo]

ok so stuff like this in my opinion could be cool if instead of the thing they used for the keycap thing if it had like proper keycaps and each cap is near to each other and even the gaps between keycaps was the image

so more a compact design

[bitter shuttle]

its js gonna feel like a responsive membrane

[vagrant cargo]

i think the fault here with this product is that plastic thing they used for the keycaps and the split space bar

or the other thing they could of done is have the frame at the top be the display

[bitter shuttle]

if u could use it like a drawing pad it would be nice

[vagrant cargo]

and the inside be just normal mechamical keyboard whats hot swappable

[bitter shuttle]

if its cheaper than a drawing pad

[vagrant cargo]

i just quikcly threw this together but this is the idea i have

so the upper frame on sides of where the keys are and stuff could be a led display

so lets say you want a theme based on the GAME control on the hiss you would have a red and black gif or video based on the games loading screen

[brisk jolt]

yeah 7500f from friend best value

[arctic bronze]

wow, thats a cpu!! :O

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-gif-891552622910302338

[vagrant cargo]

ok so the ds pixel there is keyboards like it this is one of them https://fluxkeyboard.com/?v=7885444af42e

https://finalmouse.com/products/centerpiece-pro

[edgy laurel]

kinda sick, actually.https://youtu.be/dIyG35pW-xI

[vagrant cargo]

i mean if they made a version of this where its silent it would be the perfect keyboard for me

main thing i want though is a pc case like the iBUYPOWER Snowblind S but with the side panel not been transparent

have that on my desk when my new set up is finished next to my 32 inch monitor on my new desk and maybe something like this keyboard my mouse a clip on panel for side of desk to reduce noise or clip on pegbaord for desk and thats my dream setup

tbh though given since i reorganised i can go for a l shaped desk with a built in pegboard

[edgy laurel]

Neither of the switch options are clicks

Clicky*

Linear (silent) or tactile

[arctic bronze]

we need to purge all blue clicky users

[low sorrel]

And your friend instead a billion dollar company gets money

[brisk jolt]

job had one bro

[lone scarab]

one bro had job

[crude ruin]

Who the fuck needs this

[lone scarab]

not me

um hello helene

[crude ruin]

Me neither

[crude ruin]

Hi

[lone scarab]

throw it away

[lone scarab]

hows you

[crude ruin]

No, it's good hardware

[lone scarab]

use it

[crude ruin]

Good enough, got this on my bday a few days ago, I don't fucking know why the picture is flipped

[crude ruin]

I can only afford one SSD 💔

[lone scarab]

ok, so what are you gonna do with this

[lone scarab]

😭

[crude ruin]

They gave me a keychain...

[indigo walrus]

Improves the performance of your system by 9001%

[crude ruin]

Get the rest of the components

[crude ruin]

Fr

[lone scarab]

useful

new attachment unlocked

-5% electricity consumed

keep using the motherboard to unlock more

👌🔥

[crude ruin]

Yep, it probably boosts my performance by like 400%

[rigid orchid]

Probably for local media hoarders lol

[true birch]

Is 8gb VRAM sufficient for gaming Laptops?

[crude ruin]

True, well, sadly I live in the middle of nowhere so I have no easy access to waste computers 💔

[crude ruin]

I game on UHD 620 integrated graphics

[true birch]

I asked cause I got confused with the mixed reviews saying that 8gb graphics is pretty less
Especially for the NVidia 50 series

[pure garnet]

8gb long term isn’t ideal

with gaming laptops you don’t have an option much really

[crude ruin]

Honestly depends on what games you play

[true birch]

I play pixelated indie games mostly

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup tm5 spit out one error in 8 hours do i really care about it?

[pure garnet]

if it’s erroring it’s not stable

[low sorrel]

ugh

[pure garnet]

especially with ram oc when it’s a few corrupted operations from data loss

[lone scarab]

try it out

[pure garnet]

then 8gb of vram will not matter for the useful lifespan of that laptop

[low sorrel]

this is why people hate ram oc

[crude ruin]

Maybe fits in an M.2 slot /s

[true birch]

Lessss go
So 8gb 5060 is fine?
I've got even more reviews that diss the 5060 model

[pure garnet]

5060 mobile should be fine

i don’t think you’d benefit from overpaying for a 5070ti mobile

[true birch]

It's anyway beyond my budget limit
So. I can only dream about it

[pure garnet]

if you’re just playing indies you may honestly just wanna get a laptop with a 780m/980m igpu to save you some money

they’re fairly good (i think roughly 1650 equivalent?) and then you’d be saving a bunch

[true birch]

I have 2 options

1. Ryzen 7+ 6gb 4050 and 140W tgp
2. Intel i7+8gb 5060 and 115W tgp

[pure garnet]

uhhh

5060 would still be faster i think?

[brisk jolt]

you can save money by going for a 5050 laptop, its pretty much the same thing tbh

[low sorrel]

hmmm do i ttry more voltage or lossen timings first

im at 1.62V for dimm

[bitter shuttle]

i think everyone should play indies

[pure garnet]

i have 0 clue about ddr4 voltage ranges but realistically i’d just loosen timings

[true birch]

Well, I was deciding between Asus TUF f16 models
There is a i5+8gb 5050
And a i7+8gb 5060

[pure garnet]

i run cl28 at 1.35v over cl26 at whatever, probably 1.45-1.5v because it just doesn’t matter

[brisk jolt]

unless you do productive intensive stressful work that requires more computing power the i5/u5+5050 is good enough

[low sorrel]

i have no clue what timings to start with considering this was my 3866 oc with just more voltage dumped into it

[true birch]

Uhhhh
I have only coding and indie gaming on my list
I need this to last for 3-4 years at least (through college)

[pure garnet]

if it works like ddr5 just raise the cl

[floral spear]

I love UE5 games

[pure garnet]

but otherwise wait for floppa i’m just guessing with ddr4

[low sorrel]

im reading the ddr4 oc guide and it says that rev e scales linearly with volttage sooooo

[pure garnet]

are you gonna daily it with the sky high voltages or is this for fun

[low sorrel]

hey if i blow it up that means i have an excuse to upgrade

[pure garnet]

fair enough

[low sorrel]

oooooo

imma pretend i didn't see that

ow why is the ram so hot

[slim pebble]

There’s no danger running 1.45v on AM5 is there?

[lone scarab]

10 petabytes of storage

[lone scarab]

some people even want 128gb of vram

8 os fine

[crude ruin]

fr

[lone scarab]

if your budget doesnt allow any higher

[bitter shuttle]

128 gigabyes OF VRAMMMM!!

[brisk jolt]

is this TXR?

[lone scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/samsung-android-gif-26073782

[bitter shuttle]

the hell u on

[lone scarab]

i said thats what some people want

[bitter shuttle]

where u even get it

[lone scarab]

the more you give them, they want even more

[crude ruin]

only? i want a few TB

[lone scarab]

you dont

[bitter shuttle]

buy 3 6000 ada ss

[lone scarab]

yes sure

[crude ruin]

sorry, irony

8 gb is more than enough

or 16

[lone scarab]

i have 4 🥺

[crude ruin]

i have 16 gb "shared gpu memory"

[lone scarab]

my dedicated 4 and shared 16

https://tenor.com/view/haruhi-suzumiya-suzumiya-haruhi-izumi-izumi-konata-gif-24729411

[fervent chasm]

Isn’t this a steal?

$540 for barebones R940

After taxes and shipping

[low sorrel]

WAIT

[fervent chasm]

Switched chats because I forgot tc1 is for normies

[low sorrel]

It's NOT REV E ITS REV B

Or f

Probably f

It's rev f :(((

[leaden dawn]

This whole server is wym lmao. Just cross posting atp.. Like a normie

[stable turret]

macOS vs Linux desktop, which one do you prefer? (i know both of them are worse than Windows 11, however the only two are the only options here for preference)

[vocal plume]

Wym

Linux desktop ftw

KDE plasma my beloved

[stable turret]

as someone who used to daily drive gentoo & linux from scratch. I would say linux desktop is roughly 20 years behind windows

although i still run ubuntu and debian for my servers, i would say linux desktop sucks.

in way too many ways.

[vocal plume]

Like?

[stable turret]

compatibility

barrier of entry

[vocal plume]

Eh

Setup wasnt that hard

[stable turret]

ofc, linux from scratch is easy

[vocal plume]

I need to do more compatibility testing

But all my games run just fine

[stable turret]

yeh, bottle exists, some games run fine

some dont, cuz some developers are actively blocking linux (proton, wine) due to DRM

for example, the latest triple A title, battile field 6

[vocal plume]

Then I simply refuse to play those games. They need us far more than we need them

[stable turret]

also overwatch 2 doesn't work anymore in bottles due to blizzard actively blocking linux

it used to work, until it didnt.

[vocal plume]

Blizzard can burn

Honestly. Wouldn't be any loss.

[stable turret]

autodesk suite & adobe doesn't run well on linux.

just way too many problems over producivity & gaming experience on linux now to consider it is on par with the behemoth windows 11

[vocal plume]

Adobe can also burn XD

There are so many alternatives that can do the same things

[stable turret]

community based software support vs supports backed by the richest companies in the world

[vocal plume]

Yes, and getting away from those companies is the entire point.

I started daily driving Linux a few days ago and I absolutely love it so far.

Its a bit of a learning curve but its been going well so far

[stable turret]

for me, linux desktop just seems lagging behind windows for at least 20 years due to a lack of contributions

i started daily driving linux many years ago

and i persisted for a few years.

[vocal plume]

Windows desktop dissapoints me now

[stable turret]

i stopped, went back to windows, never looked back ever since.

windows was an upgrade to me from linux desktop

[vocal plume]

I don't plan on going back to windows.

[stable turret]

i just didnt want to tinker anymore with my desktop environment with nvidia graphics driver for 10bit color supports.

[vocal plume]

I still have the windows boot drive in my system, but I won't use it unless absolutely necessary.

[vocal plume]

How long ago was this?

Nvidia drivers seem to work just as good now on linux as they do on windows

[stable turret]

i stopped using linux desktop around 2023-2024 i think

i just grew tired of wine.

[vocal plume]

I dont even use wine

Well, unless you count proton

Debian my beloved

[stable turret]

proton, bottles and crossover are just wine with skins.

[vocal plume]

Either way it works fine out of the box for me

Even games with anticheat like rust and crossover work without issue

Im not reinstalling gtaV to find out about that one though XD

[stable turret]

yeh drm generally supports linux i think, unless if the studios trying to actively block linux

[opal jay]

why do some games block linux lol, like whats the point? You'd be getting more users if u dont block it

[stable turret]

the only game that my girlfriend plays is just overwatch 2 and it doesnt work generally meaning a dealbreaker for me.

[stable turret]

anticheat i guess

[south shuttle]

they don’t block linux, they can’t run linux

[stable turret]

not all developers are dedicated/competent enough to support linux

and some just directly block linux due to anticheat concerns.

[south shuttle]

big most people use windows so, most AAA games are windows only

[stable turret]

battlefield 6 actively blocked proton/wine

it could work on linux until they blocked them

[south shuttle]

there were anticheat concerns

yeah, stupid ik

[karmic folio]

why stupid

[karmic folio]

30% more cheaters woohoo

[turbid locust]

Not worth catering to the 0.1%

[karmic folio]

and that lol

rust is on macos tho

[opal jay]

do you guys think 1000$ (expandable) is a good budget for my first gaming pc?

[strange ginkgo]

these days thats just the GPU 🙄

[opal jay]

lol, i still dont know whether to go green or red, i could get nvidia 5060 or rx 7700xt i think? ( forgot the card name)

[strange ginkgo]

rx 7700xt would probably be the better choice because it has 12gb vram

[opal jay]

yea, or i COULD Get a 9060xt since im down to pay more if it means more performance lol

but im not really sure about the difference if its better or worst

[strange ginkgo]

haven't build a PC recently but i think 1000$ would be hard for gaming

i hope the monitor is not included in that

[turbid locust]

$1000 budget isn’t super hard if you’re smart and willing to buy used

You can build a pretty nice machine with $1000

[opal jay]

nothing is included except the pc itself, xd, all 1000 goes to the PC

[lone scarab]

some people dont want to go used or theur country is just shit for having great deals on used stuff

[livid flame]

By making secure boot a requirement?

Or something else

As i would imagine implementing Microsoft developed requirement you wouldn’t want it to run on Linux

[turbid locust]

I mean even buying strictly new you can still to pretty good with $1000

[lone scarab]

yeah

@golden totem what are your specs

your pc's specs

😁😁😁😅😅

[brisk jolt]

Me the very second mentioning 8400f in TC1:

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-seagulls-gif-26846003

[turbid locust]

Can’t say I’d recommend that cpu but

[south shuttle]

me when 7400f outperforms 8600g

[topaz veldt]

I personally think its hilarious that when people want to show their Linux system the first thing they do is post neofetch lol

<@&750150305383186585>

[turbid locust]

@frank zealot This is what I’m talking about. ABL actually does fuck all. This is directly after manual leveling, setting z-offset, and letting it make an ABL mesh.

[topaz veldt]

never ABL

@turbid locust this looks like a Creality?

[turbid locust]

Every fucking time I want to use this printer after not using it for awhile, it takes a fucking day of troubleshooting to get a half decent print

[turbid locust]

Elegoo

[topaz veldt]

So personally... I had nothing but issues with bed leveling UNTIL I removed the PEI sheet and magnet bed

the actual magnet sheet is lumpy

[turbid locust]

I mean I’m gonna just have to get KAMP and Axis twist compensation set up again

That’s the only time I was ever able to get consistent prints out of this printer

[topaz veldt]

The problem is you're trying to accomodate for a flawed bed

I had this same exact issue

I used octopi or whatever and mapped the bed

[turbid locust]

I think one of the axis are twisted from factory lmao

One side always prints shittier than the other

[topaz veldt]

I 1000% bet its your magnetic base

I stopped using the PEI sheet, so hail mary I ripped off the magnet layer off the aluminum plate and then measured it out and it was REMARKABLY better

[turbid locust]

Considering just… getting a better printer lmao

[topaz veldt]

You could but this is $0 and you'd be cruising in 20 mins

I ditched the magnet sticker layer, PEI metal plate, and just got a glass plate from Amazon, done zo never had an issue again

[turbid locust]

Idk man I just have probably a week of troubleshooting this printer

[topaz veldt]

Only a week? I spent prob 3 - 4 months and had like 48 hour prints fail because the thing was so bad

No joke it only dawned on me to rip that layer out almost a year after buying

[turbid locust]

Considering I’ve only done a handful of prints… ugh.

[muted spire]

my ender 3 will occasionally fully ignore the bltouch settings lol

[turbid locust]

I’ve had this printer probably 2 years atp and have maybe done 10 proper prints

[topaz veldt]

"I fixed it..."

not realizing literally none of the base layer was attached

[turbid locust]

I bought an Ender 5 Pro for cheap used but I think the bed has a short. Trying to heat the bed makes the printer shut off.

Had that also probably 8 months to a year and haven’t printed a single thing

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust

Thats like ... as good as I could get it

Then I installed octoprint/octopi whatever and it did a like 50 point bed map, made it better, but was masking the issue

[turbid locust]

My printer does like a 128 point bed map

[topaz veldt]

This is different

The hardware bed maps are not dynamic

[muted spire]

don't forget to clean the bed

[turbid locust]

I did. I just get super disappointed every time I try to use this printer and it makes me basically give up the hobby lmfao.

[muted spire]

adhesion was pretty bad on my textured pei when I let it sit and get dust on it

[topaz veldt]

I totally feel this. Rip the magnet layer out

[turbid locust]

I always clean if I haven’t used it in awhile

[muted spire]

or just do the oldschool thing and use glue lol

[turbid locust]

Glue never worked for me

[muted spire]

watered down pva on glass bed was pretty good

[turbid locust]

I don’t think it’s an adhesion issue it’s literally the printer not using z-offset

[topaz veldt]

Its the magnetic layer

they use a planed aluminum plate

and then on top of it they put a $1.45 chinese sticker magnet

and then on to of that is flexible steel

that cheap magnet sticker has so much run out in both the glue layer and magnet layer

This was the first print after removing the magnet

[turbid locust]

I really dont feel like destroying the bed lmao

[topaz veldt]

Its not destroying

Its literally a sticker

[muted spire]

yeah replacement magnet sheets are on aliexpress for less than $2

[topaz veldt]

Yeah you can either replace it ... or not

https://youtu.be/MWkRE6sSmKs?si=5EQEUkX4mJoy2nm-&t=110

[turbid locust]

so just yoink that sheet off and then slap a new one on?

[topaz veldt]

When i removed that magnet I put a dial indicator on the print head and it was insanely more level

[topaz veldt]

yoink it and put a glass plate on, no sticker

[muted spire]

either replace it or just use clips to hold build plate in

[topaz veldt]

yup

either glass plate or just clip the PEI metal plate back down

that sticker gets air under it and bubbles and... I kind of can't believe they do that on "precision" machines

[muted spire]

FR4 is apparently really good buildplate material

[turbid locust]

i'll steal some clips from work today

[topaz veldt]

I think FR4 is semi consumable though

[topaz veldt]

I use binder clips

[turbid locust]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

Which printer do you have exactly mac

[muted spire]

called bulldog clips in some places

[turbid locust]

Neptune 4 Pro

[topaz veldt]

That's canada trying to sound stronger

[turbid locust]

same one Tkitch has zero issues on apparently

[muted spire]

there may also be a firmware update for it

[turbid locust]

probably but I know I did update it like twice

[topaz veldt]

Yup - I have Creality CR-10 Smart Pro, was like $900+, 7/10 people "I have no issues what so ever... level your bed"

[steel stream]

just one more time bro trust

[turbid locust]

I bought it relatively close to launch tho

[topaz veldt]

Thankfully I have dial indicators and tools and I am like bro this shit is WAVY

[muted spire]

lol

[topaz veldt]

Honestly 3D printer firmware is not something I update often

[turbid locust]

I have a wifi bridge thing on the way so i can use printer via wifi instead of running a ethernet cable across the room

[topaz veldt]

I use an SD card and UPS lol

I have had some 48-60 hour prints and power flips or something

[turbid locust]

i'm on 1.1.3.2

Wait i think i have some binder clips on my work badge lol

i'll do it now yolo idgaf

[topaz veldt]

remember to manually level after

I do the paper slidey trick

[turbid locust]

5nail if this doesnt work you owe me a P1S

[topaz veldt]

I owe you nothin

but make sure to clear any ABL and do a manual level

[turbid locust]

I have silicone spacers in but yk

my history of manually leveling is full of psychotic meltdowns because ill get everything level and then suddenly one corner is off again

repeat for an hour LMAO

[topaz veldt]

baby steps

[turbid locust]

Ok I only have two clips but should be fine I think?

[topaz veldt]

You just need to hold it in place to test

[turbid locust]

I think the last time I manually leveled this bed I was using screw tilt leveling in fluidd

[topaz veldt]

manual leveling is crucial

[frank zealot]

Yeah, my N4 has printed mostly flawlessly since I got it

[turbid locust]

Must be nice. Asshole.

[frank zealot]

Lol

[turbid locust]

I kid I kid

[topaz veldt]

I am prob going to buy the HDS when in stock

my wife wants the laser attachment for her shit

sorry

[frank zealot]

I started a 2.5 day print before leaving work Friday. I'll check on it tomorrow

[topaz veldt]

H2S

[turbid locust]

One day I wouldn’t mind buying a badass flagship printer

Although I do want to mod this Ender 5 Pro into a CoreXY monster one day

[topaz veldt]

My next big investment will be a CNC router

[frank zealot]

Getting a gigantic printer would be neat. Print an entire breastplate in one go

A Mando helmet with no seams

[muted spire]

the orange storm giga, full mando chest piece no seams

[topaz veldt]

I gotta slow my buying a smidge, we got patio quotes back and its going to be just short of $90k

[steel stream]

that's gonna be a nice patio

[topaz veldt]

Yeah like anything the scope is creeping

"Why not add an outdoor kitchen?"

[turbid locust]

LOL

[steel stream]

why not add an outdoor LG G5 83"?

[topaz veldt]

lol im trying - my wife wants like minimal technology out there

[steel stream]

bummer

[topaz veldt]

I definitely secured the Sonance SGS 8.1 w/ DSP

[steel stream]

ok sweet

[steel stream]

yeah that seems super cool

[turbid locust]

5nail this magnetic thing looked pretty flat

[topaz veldt]

I assure you it is not flat - the earth looks flat, too

[turbid locust]

The earth is flat

[topaz veldt]

LOL

Its completely possible your printer is fucked too, but I am telling you that magnetic layer is NOT helping

I originally thought my aluminum bed plate was warped

[turbid locust]

It’s off

It smells good wtf

[topaz veldt]

yeah its the worst stank

[steel stream]

don't huff the printer fumes

[topaz veldt]

its the sticker glue it smells rank af

[turbid locust]

You’re not my dad

[turbid locust]

It doesn’t smell bad

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-okay-then-aight-gif-13383344606577294081

[turbid locust]

Where’s my goo gone bruh

[steel stream]

Mommmmmmm Macs sniffing the printer glue again

[fringe vigil]

Memmmmm

[turbid locust]

Found the goo gone. Look on back: “not for use on aluminum surfaces”. Ffs.

[topaz veldt]

They say my tires are not for street use, too - it doesn't matter

[turbid locust]

Ok but that’s different lmao

That’s DOT bullshit. This could be like “will fuckin eat aluminum” lmao

[vocal plume]

whats wrong with neofetch

[steel stream]

only one way to find out

[hoary hatch]

Oh God what did benchmarking do now

[hoary hatch]

Nothing
It's a bit of fun

[vocal plume]

also ERM ACTCHEWALLY I use fastfetch

[turbid locust]

I can never tell how much friction I’m supposed to have ngl

[hoary hatch]

You're the one who mentioned neofetch bruh

[vocal plume]

wha....?

I only said neofetch because 5nail5 said neofetch

[topaz veldt]

It doesn't matter so long as its the same

[topaz veldt]

Its just a cliche of Linux users

[vocal plume]

fair

[topaz veldt]

fastfetch is deprecated

sorry, i have that backwards

neofetch is deprecated, fastfetch is the NEW HIP AWESOME..... pointless binary

[vocal plume]

its not pointless, it gives me cool ascii art of my distro logo XD

[topaz veldt]

Mhm

[vocal plume]

cant i enjoy the pointless littlethings in life

lmao

[topaz veldt]

You can, but like all Linux shills you feel compelled to let us know how much you're enjoying it 😉

[vestal granite]

i use linux too every day as my cellular telephone uses android

[vocal plume]

oh no........ its happening and i only switched like 2 days ago

https://tenor.com/view/turbo-granny-dandadan-gif-5786579814606811675

[topaz veldt]

Ha - and you already got your fastfetch post done, precisely the cliche

[vestal granite]

its one of those curves where you hate it at first and then hate it as you learn more about it

like linus torvalds is cranky all the time

[topaz veldt]

its just funny to me

[vocal plume]

Also got a screenshot of my DE :p

[turbid locust]

New problem: clips are getting in the way of the extruder housing lmao

[topaz veldt]

very amazing

[vestal granite]

i use default gnome

[topaz veldt]

WHAT

you have to use Wayland omg bro bro FR FR FR

[vestal granite]

you see, the cool thing about gnome is that i can use mouse gestures on my touchpad and theyre useful

[topaz veldt]

my desktop environment is very boring

[vestal granite]

i use the 2 fingers to scroll and the 3 fingers to alt tab

[pure garnet]

i just use default kde

[vestal granite]

i dont like kde but i respect and understand that other people may like kde

[turbid locust]

Wait my printer is trolling

It’s showing it’s doing a 121 point bed mesh but it’s definitely just like not taking those actual points

[topaz veldt]

look how amazing

[vestal granite]

oh right thats the one reason i have to use linux for something work related, printing stuff using linux works so much better cause i use an old printer and i suspect windows would work better at printing on a newer printer

[pure garnet]

rocky 10

damn i’m still on 8

[vestal granite]

i didnt watch rocky 2

[pure garnet]

i don’t like needing to track down extensions for gnome so i just got used to plasma

[vestal granite]

i dont use any of that stuff i dont trust any of it

what gnome extensions i have used are only very few ones that seemed universal enough to never need an update

[topaz veldt]

I just started using it instead of RHEL/OEL - most of my shit is Ubuntu though

[pure garnet]

can’t fault ubuntu for working

[vestal granite]

i use fedora on my laptop because i wanted to try fedora and then i realized that i functionally have no difference except for when i google stuff i have to add "fedora" to the start of the search instead of "ubuntu" or "debian" and anyway im too lazy to swap back right now

[pure garnet]

if i say what distro my desktop is on then it fits the meme

i use debian on my think center though

[topaz veldt]

archa rcha rcahrcharcha rcarch

"I just started using linux 20 mins ago but you have to run arch"

[vestal granite]

when does an arch become a tunnel

these are the questions

[pure garnet]

i just like my rolling release

i liked void but for some reason the mirrors hate my internet and only download at dial up

[turbid locust]

my printer giga trolling

Why is the ABL only applying to the bottom left corner

[vestal granite]

they should make a new form of ragebait and its like seven people all huddled around a computer screen and none of them know what theyre doing at all and they all get progressively more upset and its a really simple fix

[topaz veldt]

because your bottom left corner is out lol

[turbid locust]

no it’s literally not applying shit

[topaz veldt]

good, ABL is terrible

[turbid locust]

ABL is going across the entire bed but it’s not taking as many measurements as it says it’s going to

So it’s only applying the measurements it took based on the 121 point grid

[stable turret]

no, but in case if you need more information

[turbid locust]

How are you gonna boycott a game you can’t buy and play lmao

You clearly aren’t the target audience

[pure garnet]

linux users discovering that games with anti cheat don’t like being ran in an emulated environment

[vocal plume]

Guess i wont give em any money

[pure garnet]

i don’t think they care about the 4 interested parties on linux tbf

[stable turret]

The reason why I dislike/despise steam deck is because it runs on Linux

[pure garnet]

so put windows on it then

[vocal plume]

you can install windows on it.

[pure garnet]

it’s an x86 pc you can do whatever with it

[vocal plume]

they even have windows drivers specifically for it

[stable turret]

The only reason why people choose steam deck is because steamOS

Way more options out there if you are just gonna install windows

[vocal plume]

what....?

no, it isnt

[stable turret]

Ofc it is

[vocal plume]

its also the cheapest yet most competent handheld on the market right now

[stable turret]

I doubt but okay

[pure garnet]

it was $320 a week ago

its contemporaries are all like $800

[vocal plume]

you doubt but dont have any other reasoning other than lInUx B a D

[vestal granite]

nobody cares about OS

nobody is buying an xbox saying oh it runs windows no its an xbox it runs games

as long as the gaming device runs the games they dont care

[stable turret]

In my local availability, steamdeck is way more important with inferior specs than its counterpart

Btw in case if anyone interested

[vocal plume]

then thats a you specific problem

dont blanket state that for everyone else

[stable turret]

We are literally talking about the second largest market in the world

[vestal granite]

yeah but not the 2nd largest market in the world for steam

[stable turret]

US the first, mainland China the second, EU the third.

[dull anvil]

Yall ever heard of ssds having contagious corruption?

[vocal plume]

China isnt thwe whole world though. so no. don't try that shit

[stable turret]

Lmao

[vocal plume]

hwat

[stable turret]

Read my argument

[vocal plume]

Riiiiight, and you think valve or litterally anyone else cares why

[pure garnet]

why would steam be selling direct to taobao

[dull anvil]

My ssd with all my music immediately corrupts any os I install into the system lmao

[stable turret]

I mean, they got no other options, right?

JD? Pinduoduo?

[vocal plume]

thats...... very bad

[vestal granite]

steam decks arent even sold for RMB on steam

[pure garnet]

you just buy it from valve

[stable turret]

Taobao is like the only outlet where people sell products to the end consumer

[vestal granite]

they dont even sell them 1st party to the chinese market

[vocal plume]

then thats a china issue, not a global issue

[stable turret]

This is not how the Chinese market works

[stable turret]

Yeh and still considered one of the largest market

[pure garnet]

anyway for a free market comparison the ally is $649 us vs $399 for the deck

[vocal plume]

Yea and it sucks ass

soooooooooooo
sorry not sorry

[stable turret]

Many large corps would disagree but i guess it’s okay for people to have opinions

[vocal plume]

its not comparable

[vestal granite]

its the largest market but not for every company. steam decks are not being sold in china as much as they are in NA/EU/etc

[stable turret]

Yeh cuz they are not nearly competitive even at MSRP

[pure garnet]

whatever makes you feel better

[vocal plume]

riiiiight and you still haven given any alternatives

[stable turret]

Nothing makes me feel happy cuz I’m not the target audience for handheld. Everything I said is just plain truth

[pure garnet]

no he posted some aliex plastic thing with presumably a 6800u

[vocal plume]

ouch

[pure garnet]

because software support on a console isn’t needed

[stable turret]

16GB RAM + 1TB ssd as well

Half the price as steamdeck

[pure garnet]

a reseller in china for a deck wants profit? not surprising

[vocal plume]

well when your company can use slave labor to undercut the cost of damn near any other market, it sure makes things a whole lot cheaper

[pure garnet]

the steam deck is cheaper in the west which is the majority of valves market

[stable turret]

Lol

[vocal plume]

"lol" no, that isnt funny nor a joke.

[stable turret]

Imagine still talking about slave labouring in China in 2025

Too out of the touch

[wise bear]

Leftover thai for breakfast goes mega hard

[vocal plume]

I'm just pointing out the obvious

[stable turret]

Prob never visited mainland China before

[vocal plume]

I never want to visit china.

[stable turret]

I agree

[vestal granite]

all i know about china is that guangdong peking duck > sichuan peking duck

[stable turret]

I’m from Beijing, China so, I can’t really comment on this

I live just outside of Tiananmen Square

[vestal granite]

yeah you wouldnt know as much as me on this subject i understand

[vestal granite]

whats that

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt I think my printer uses the magnetic sheet for ABL measurements

[wise bear]

bruh what

[stable turret]

A well known tourist place in beijing

[wise bear]

you don't know what tiananmen square is?

[vestal granite]

why do tourists go there is it like a park

like dollywood

[wise bear]

google tiananmen square june 1989

[topaz veldt]

Nah

[stable turret]

I don’t usually go there as well. Simply too crowded with hundreds of thousands visitors

[stable turret]

Popular event I would say

I would like to see it happening in video games

[turbid locust]

nah it's deadass getting zero data

[wise bear]

the fact that pepe doesn't know about this shows that schools are failing kids around the world holy shit

[topaz veldt]

Its possible that the thickness puts the sensor out of range, manually level it up bro

[turbid locust]

I did dude

[stable turret]

At least everyone in China knows about that event

[topaz veldt]

there is no element of a magnetic sheet that ABLs

[turbid locust]

And like it’s printing better than it was but now it’s scraping the bed occasionally

[wise bear]

yeah, bullshit

[topaz veldt]

you need to clear whatever ABL is stored

[turbid locust]

The first layer went down rough ngl

[turbid locust]

Did

[stable turret]

Prob use ChatGPT or Gemini as they are easier to get info

[wise bear]

no, that search result is just fake

[vocal plume]

popular event.....? yes the slaughtering of protesters sure is...... popular

[vestal granite]

but do you know about the great Alvin C. York

[turbid locust]

depression

[stable turret]

I mean, that event is quite debatable and I don’t think the topic is well suited for #tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

way too close to bed

[hoary hatch]

U

[stable turret]

Prob discuss it elsewhere instead

[wise bear]

the dude who shot a bunch of germans on the frontline? yeah

[hoary hatch]

So I am definitely GPU limited

[vestal granite]

but do you know about the great Gatsby (sandwich)

[vocal plume]

its not a debate, it is what happened. just cause your media doesn't want you to know anything doesn't mean this has been recorded and preserved in the rest of the world.

[turbid locust]

14900k performing the same as a 7700x is a little funny

[wise bear]

"popular event" in this case from gomen is just rephrasing of "lots of people know about it"

[hoary hatch]

I wanna see tuned numbers

[stable turret]

i mean, everybody knows what happened. its just up to you on how you interpret the event.

[hoary hatch]

Not that 14900k will suddenly match 9800x3d
But I'd imagine it would beat all the non X3D easily with tuning

[vocal plume]

Ig yea.

[hoary hatch]

Hmm

[vocal plume]

Still don't know what there is to interpret.

[wise bear]

ANYWAYS

[stable turret]

and btw its very well recorded and preserved on the media. we can just do a simple google search to get the same info as you do

[wise bear]

Anyways.

[stable turret]

feel free to discuss it elsewhere, this is tech chat.

[wise bear]

thats not why im telling you to shush, its because yall are misinterpreting each other and taking it wrong. Stop it.

[south nacelle]

So I bought this, and for some reason I'm running into a problem where it thinks the DPI button is stuck about 10s after turning it on or plugging it in. I'm now brutally annoyed cause it's causing me to miss work time while I try everything to fix it.

[vocal plume]

Fine

Peyton what linux distro do you use

[wise bear]

W11

[vocal plume]

[vocal plume]

[vestal granite]

peyton is what we call in the biz a, 'normal person who has to use their machine so it has to be functional'

[vocal plume]

but my machine is functional on linux :((((((((((((

[vestal granite]

windows might suck, it might be horrible, but the one thing we can never take away from windows is that its good at being windows.

[pure garnet]

so run fortnite in it

[wise bear]

windows doesn't even "suck" what

[pure garnet]

or excel 365

[stable turret]

the only reason why im using windows is because "IT JUST WORKS"

[vestal granite]

no it sucks as in like "oh, you" or "aw shucks"

[wise bear]

"i cant change the UI like I can in linux"
Because linux was built for modularity. Windows is not.

[stable turret]

i have encountered way too many instances when things dont work or not working as intended on gentoo

[pure garnet]

it wasn’t even built for modularity the linux desktop is just a mess

[stable turret]

i dont wanna tinker everything over and over again, compiling everything when im just upgrading the kernel.

[pure garnet]

the solution to user apps not working was to ship a distro in a container

[stable turret]

even an 8 core processor runs like shit for compilation

[pure garnet]

i love having a fedora and ubuntu install on my arch setup to run steam

[stable turret]

you have to wait for hours just for compiling some basic programs

[pure garnet]

so don’t use a source based distro 💀

[vestal granite]

i dont update kernel i use it until i get zero day'd but the zero day was more like 240 days

[pure garnet]

you installed the meme distro that compile everything and then are mad at compile times

that checks out for the air cooling professional actually

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt raised Z offset and it seems happier

[stable turret]

i mean, other distros are fine however they are just not designed for the hardcores.

it feels wrong using linux if your not compiling everything including the kernel

[pure garnet]

“hardcores”

[stable turret]

tbh i only two distros (not technically) i considered good are gentoo and LFS (linux from scratch)

you dont really need a package manage ngl

[pure garnet]

you know torvalds uses fedora right

[vocal plume]

Eh I can dual boot if I reaaaaaaally want to run fortnite, but that isnt a problem with linux itself, more of an issue with sweeny being a little bitch about it

[pure garnet]

if you’re gonna be pretentious use something cool like slackware

[stable turret]

this was my old mindset and i kinda threw it away

when i went back to windows 11

nowadays i run mainly debian and ubuntu on my servers and windows on all of my desktops

[vestal granite]

i like package managers they manage the packages that i dont want to manage

[pure garnet]

at the end of the day the software works in windows and doesn’t on linux though

it doesn’t matter how you get there but it’s stuff people actually use

[topaz veldt]

yep

[stable turret]

i think every software can technically work on linux and just depends on how hacky you wanna go. sometimes you need to invent some solutions if there isn't any

if you just want the best premium user experience, just go windows 11

[vestal granite]

yeah if u just run windows in linux then the software will work

[vocal plume]

mmmm yes the premium adware that is win11

[turbid locust]

Ive still yet to see an ad in windows

[vocal plume]

let me rephrase, spyware

[stable turret]

and remember, you can go deep in windows as you if you prefer customizations to some level.

[vestal granite]

its in the start menu if u dont have pro or oem key

candy crush microsoft store app and such

[stable turret]

and windows is free as well to most of the audience here in this server i would expect

[vocal plume]

that and fucking onedrive

[pure garnet]

if you’re using windows 11 home you kinda deserve it

[vocal plume]

onedrive can burn in hell

[vestal granite]

onedrive is goated

[pure garnet]

you can just uninstall one drive and it goes away

[vocal plume]

and then gets reinstalled with the next update

[vestal granite]

listen, pal, my windows key is older than half of this server and its one of my most expensive possessions at MSRP which is what my ancestors paid for it

[vocal plume]

lol

[vestal granite]

disable it in features

[pure garnet]

i’ve never had one drive reinstall itself

i just uninstalled it from control panel

[turbid locust]

I just want speaker stands bro

[vocal plume]

I've had it reinstall several times....

[stable turret]

i personally dislike onedrive due to how it handles small files. icloud imo is just a better option

[vestal granite]

i dont like when i open documents folder and it goes to .../onedrive/documents is all

cause then i dont see my documents i see my onedrive documents

[pure garnet]

windows ltsc exists too

now i use that and dont have to worry about any weird stuff

[vocal plume]

that and for whatever reason some game devs decided that thats a great place to save games......

[pure garnet]

i mean that was decided decades ago

[stable turret]

the thing that annoys me the most is not windows nor onedrive. but this anticheat software from valorant

[vocal plume]

Yes I'm not blaming the devs of yesteryear, I mean the ones that come out today and do that crap

[stable turret]

simply too invasive and it warns me that disabling it from startup would cause severe consequences

for example not allowing me to start the game

[vocal plume]

yea i won't touch valorant with a 20 foot pole

[vestal granite]

your country has a different valorant anticheat logo

i wonder if its the same anticheat

[stable turret]

yeh this is the mainland china version. i have the oversea version downloaded and i think it is slightly better?

[stable turret]

my girlfriend plays it so ive got no other choice

[vestal granite]

riot games dont even open for me anymore, fresh windows install and such just "failed to launch, contact support" or "failed to install a dependency, contact support" and doesnt say what dependency so i cant even manually install it, supposedly its vanguard related

[stable turret]

yeh prob something related to anticheat

[topaz veldt]

Bro I just want a 911 GT2RS

[vestal granite]

contacted support a few weeks ago so hopefully they respond eventually if not i guess oh no i dont have to play riot games anymore

[turbid locust]

word lol

[fleet lily]

How is it that there are next to none benchmarks of retro games? Like ps1 for instance.

[vestal granite]

because they all run at 30fps and any higher the game breaks

physics tied to framerate

[wise bear]

because console games are engineered to maximize the use of the hardware that's given to them, making benchmarks.. kinda pointless?

[fleet lily]

I mean it doesn’t mean there aren’t games that run poorly

[wise bear]

why does there need to be benchmarks of ps1 games

[fleet lily]

Why is there a need for any nechmark for any remotely niche game? For fun

[wise bear]

use your time for something more productive tbh

[vestal granite]

knitting is cool and technically productive because you end up with a produced result

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt yeah coming along much better. Hope it continues to be fine. I have to go to work lol.

[fleet lily]

Ahh, don’t be such a downer.

Why would you ever have any benchmarks then lol.

[wise bear]

benchmarks make sense for differences in hardware

kinda pointless when the hardware is all the same. all you're doing is ranking how "well" games perform in that case

thats not a benchmark, that's a tierlist

[fleet lily]

You forget that you can still compare consoles and ports and such and how they run. Also, people do make benchmarks with only one type of hardware on pc all the time, sometimes for consoles as well.

[pure garnet]

you’re describing digital foundry

[vestal granite]

yeah but on PC hardware you can use that to decide if the performance is acceptable

[brisk jolt]

mfw the game pushes the GPU harder than the benchmark

[fleet lily]

And you cannot do that on console or what are you implying?

[wise bear]

that your idea is silly tbh

[vestal granite]

on console hardware theres no choice so theres no difference that a benchmark will make, the game runs how the game runs. on retro games like you said, they wont have an alternative platform to play it on. on newer games maybe if you were really wanting higher framerate on call of duty but most consoles are gonna run it at the same framerate regardless

benchmarks are best for:

1. comparing how your hardware compares to others (useless on consoles)
2. deciding for or against a hardware purchase/upgrade (useless on consoles)

[pure garnet]

there’s a channel that already covers console ports

[fleet lily]

It’s not useless on consoles though if a game exists on multiple platforms? Also, it’s just interesting seeing how a game performs regardless of any other hardware.

[pure garnet]

it’s digitalfoundry

[fleet lily]

True, but that’s not enough for me I guess

[vestal granite]

you said retro games

[fleet lily]

True but my real point is that I just wanna know how they run? Is that too much to ask for.

[vestal granite]

retro games all run at a locked framerate

[pure garnet]

be the change you wish to see

make those ps1 game fps counter videos

[vestal granite]

itll be real easy just take some stock gameplay footage and then add an overlay that says "24"

[fleet lily]

Actually pretty good advice

[fleet lily]

I’m pretty sure it varies from game to game and which moments in the game

[vestal granite]

depends if youre in europe or the US i think

[fleet lily]

No I mean sometimes there are more intensive scenes and or gameplay sections which make the game run worse.

But maybe most ps1 games ran pretty smooth at like 30 fps or something so idk

[vestal granite]

idk this is why the world needs a hero to benchmark them so we can see if tony hawk pro skater 2 gets fps drops when you do a kickflip

[obtuse radish]

man for whatever reason BF6 wont launch on my computer

splash screen loads then disapears and steam goes from resume to start

[slim pebble]

@topaz veldt did you notice any change in CPU boost behavior between the x670e and x870e Hero boards? (Or the Apex for that matter)

[topaz veldt]

Not that I recall but I don't really watch too closely

[slim pebble]

Having used both, I’ve seen better boost clocks on the X870E, the newer board.

[topaz veldt]

Hm

[slim pebble]

Of course I didn’t think to bench it 😂

[topaz veldt]

I mean its literally the same chipset, really

So i would be surprised if there was tangible differences

I mean... its the same chipset in that its not more featureful on the CPU front

[slim pebble]

Slightly better optimized memory tech

[topaz veldt]

That's a physical circuitry change though

Nothing around the chipset/software/etc.

[shell void]

ive never noticed any change to boosting behavior on either of my am5 boards on like 20 different bios revisions

on lga 1700 it was changing every update xd

[pure garnet]

the voltages changed when i swapped boards but the boosting stayed the same

[merry stirrup]

i never used stock so im not sure how that ends up working

i used stock once and the chip wanted to draw like 200w in dayz

[shell void]

stock was actually better on older bios revisions

because at least it was aggressively undervolted instead of overvolted

but then they started juicing voltage to compensate for peoples' degraded chips

[random flame]

ETAPrime

[topaz veldt]

microcode tho

[shell void]

yeh

[vestal granite]

I may start using an inverse alarm clock method™

[topaz veldt]

I got that club 3d cable

[vestal granite]

have the alarm clock on at all times, then when it's time for me to wake up it turns off

[topaz veldt]

thats called having kids

[shell void]

judgement day

[topaz veldt]

it works - so when I plug it into monitor, I only need that cable inserted into the MBP to enable clamshell mode. Now, I just need to figure out how to best share mouse/keeb

[turbid locust]

Told my roommate “if you hear what sounds like two robots getting freaky upstairs, don’t worry about it. It’s my printer” lmao

[topaz veldt]

I say that to my wife except its when I go into the bathroom and I say "No matter what noises you hear while I am in here do not come in. If I am not out in 30 mins call an ambulance."

[vestal granite]

im not wise enough to have kids yet I need to get my wisdom up and I need to have lore for stories to tell about wacky characters with nicknames like Franky Five Fingers who is a guy my dad used to talk about

franky five fingers stole stuff and he was just real good at stealing stuff

[topaz veldt]

There is a storage dude I work with named Jimmy - during our DR test event he had to keep snapshotting devices 2 times. So, he promptly became Jimmy 2 Snaps

[vestal granite]

he'd walk into the Brandywine Diner (specific because you need to google brandywine diner Schenectady NY to understand the brandywine diner) with all sorts of stolen stuff to sell

[topaz veldt]

Theres a place my wifes upstate NY family goes to called .... "Skanaattaallies" or something

They're from Long Island so they have that NYC/Long Island sound "Ya gotta cam up heyuh and go to Skonatalleeeyys"

[brisk jolt]

Got myself a small ass wheelbase and a heavy ass stand

[topaz veldt]

There are other women out there

[brisk jolt]

Sorry, pardon?

[shell void]

does the monitor have usb ports and kvm functionality?

[vestal granite]

its a sight to behold

[topaz veldt]

yes but I don't like it

[shell void]

i use a cheap chineseum usb switch to share mkb between my two pcs because i use a tv as a monitor

i can double click the scroll wheel on my mouse to switch pcs fast

[topaz veldt]

I've got a KVM under desk but its only a 2 system jawn

I gotta figure it out

OK so next wtf question

[vestal granite]

one story i heard is some guys were running from the police so they ran into the brandywine diner, went into the bathroom, climbed up into the drop ceiling and while the cops were searching the place someone looked up and a cop noticed so he poked a drop ceiling tile with a broom and a guy fell out

real classy establishment

[topaz veldt]

That looks like a nice diner to be honest

Here's a typical diner in NJ

[vestal granite]

well thats nice too

its an actual diner car

[topaz veldt]

No its a shitty building clad in aluminum

[vestal granite]

yeah diners are historically train cars

[topaz veldt]

PA/NJ is famous for diners going out of business and then like a korean bbq place moving in and changing NOTHING about the appearance

[vestal granite]

the diner car of a train but passenger trains went out of fashion so they sold off diner cars and people made restaurants out of them

[topaz veldt]

so now its just a 1950s Rockabilly themes Korean BBQ place

[pure garnet]

i went to nj a bit ago and yeah i ate in a dinner just like that

[topaz veldt]

yup

You kind of have to

we used to have a diner growing up called "The Airplane"

can you guess why?

[vestal granite]

one downside was this abandoned building next to it had like 200 homeless people living in it and thats why the brandywine sort of became a place to sell stolen goods

[topaz veldt]

they're not homeless they're voters

[vestal granite]

maybe

[topaz veldt]

they move easily between jurisdictions where they're needed

[vestal granite]

i dont think they were needed in that neighborhood

[topaz veldt]

SO... hypothetically if I were going to paint the black delrin on top.... how do you think those chrome inserts come out?

[topaz veldt]

that may just be the staging area

[vestal granite]

so i have no idea but what i would do is try to yank the inserts out

[topaz veldt]

Maybe I just leave it

It's delrin so painting it is a pita anyway

[merry stirrup]

so is the cover over the micro channels important? i assume yes but it seems that it doesnt have to be super complex

does it just direct da water? im used to seeing designs with no cover over the microfins

[topaz veldt]

Not at all completely non-functional

[merry stirrup]

ah okay

[topaz veldt]

its actually isolated in acrylic

[merry stirrup]

oh its above them?

[topaz veldt]

yup just takes tearing the block down to get to

[merry stirrup]

i think i see what you mean okie

thats neat

[topaz veldt]

yeah its a dumb stock design but if you're creative you can do stuff

[merry stirrup]

do they advertise that? would be cool

[topaz veldt]

No

People started removing it, but i saw the potential there

[merry stirrup]

ahhhh okay

[vestal granite]

oh youre the snail

[topaz veldt]

I am the snail, its me

[merry stirrup]

this is silly

[topaz veldt]

Laser cut stainless

I can't be like... mickey mouse bro

[merry stirrup]

the thought of seeing a floppa cut this way

[shell void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683114178084339737/1423377185003274281/tenor.gif

[pure garnet]

fr

[shell void]

32x 5.0 lanes and 16x 4.0 lanes will be so juicy

i cant wait to use all of those lanes for nothing

[merry stirrup]

cant wait for them to produce noise for my ram oc cause theres pins on the board

[brisk jolt]

game so stuttery it alr has a discount

[arctic bronze]

100 bucks normal price is criminal

[wise bear]

thats not USD

[brisk jolt]

its in singapore dollars brotha

i fkin whiffed the a twice

[arctic bronze]

3rd times the charm

[wise bear]

lmao sets nice edits

[merry stirrup]

nah u right lol

[topaz veldt]

Air fryers are just ovens with fans

[merry stirrup]

however consider that airfryer is faster than preheating your oven

[topaz veldt]

We call them convection ovens but that wasn't cool so they named them air fryers and yes, cooking in an oven is slower than on the stove top

[arctic bronze]

air fryers are goated

[merry stirrup]

yeah lotsa convection ovens exist

[topaz veldt]

that's my point

[arctic bronze]

yeah?

no, I use both

well stoves

[topaz veldt]

Gas ovens in the US are not common

people are morons and leave the oven on and the pilot was out and their house blows u

[arctic bronze]

I love doing methane checks when my gas is full of methane

https://tenor.com/view/methane-check-bodiggles-explosion-blow-up-bomb-gif-12375984103993060591

[topaz veldt]

well people tend to burn also

[arctic bronze]

?

[topaz veldt]

I guess if that's funny to you

Full of bad takes, too

[arctic bronze]

what

[amber furnace]

can someone recommend a CPU Cooler for a 9600x thats not to expensive, cools good and has Argb?

[arctic bronze]

https://a.co/d/iefVVcl

[merry stirrup]

pa 120 argb

[merry stirrup]

4 heatpipe on modern platform is brave but itll work

[arctic bronze]

its a 9600x, it wont run hot

[amber furnace]

Can i attach any Fan to it

[arctic bronze]

yes

[merry stirrup]

no, but future chips will

[amber furnace]

nice

[arctic bronze]

depends on what gets added

[merry stirrup]

in typical gaming loads maybe probably?

[arctic bronze]

i have 2 of the nonRGB ones and they work great

[merry stirrup]

i do believe it i would just spend the extra 5$ now for a 6 heatpipe model or something

[pure garnet]

i had the non rgb version of that on my 6700k and it stunk

[arctic bronze]

i have the pa 120 too

[pure garnet]

i'd get a pa 120 for the 6 bucks more

[arctic bronze]

both are good coolers

[shell void]

i just realized that a russian channel unboxed and showed off the M5 iPad Pro 2 weeks ago xdddd

[merry stirrup]

lol

[shell void]

i wonder how he got his hands on a QS

[pure garnet]

7600x is on sale for $150

no excuse for am4 anymore fr

[shell void]

solid gpu upgrade in the M5

[amber furnace]

i saw one that shows the temperature same name is it just the same but with a lil screen?

[pure garnet]

my ipad is m1 but i don't use it

[arctic bronze]

what

[merry stirrup]

ma computer?

that is a flavor of touch screen ddevice

[amber furnace]

the Assasin X 120 R Digital ARGB

[merry stirrup]

i would say that its probably not an ipad competitor

[pure garnet]

yeah i can't imagine a heavy ass gaming laptop is a good comparsion to an ipad

[vapid belfry]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/amd-desktop-processors/276628/amd-r5-7600x3d-cpu-gigabyte-b650m-gaming-plus-wifi-motherboard-t-force-32gb-d5-6000mhz-cl30-ram.html
Wowzers time to upgrade I think

[arctic bronze]

i see

[merry stirrup]

two different use cases

[pure garnet]

bro that board has a ps2 port

[merry stirrup]

its 2 times heavier

[pure garnet]

call of ewaste

[merry stirrup]

without even a charger

yeah how else are you getting true nkey rollover

[arctic bronze]

ik

[wise bear]

ewwwwww

[merry stirrup]

im saying an ipad is 2x lighter with a charger than your device without one

[wise bear]

omg the fucking rainbow 7-seg display 🤢

[merry stirrup]

the whole, different use case thing

[pure garnet]

shout to my aorus master for making every debug led orange

[amber furnace]

nice thank you

[pure garnet]

least confusing helper tool

[merry stirrup]

LOL

"oh okay the orange debug led is on"

[wise bear]

my bitch-ass will not up the shut fuck

[merry stirrup]

"orange debug led aorus master"

[pure garnet]

you gotta memorize the placement of the leds im not kidding

[vestal granite]

don't let people enjoy things

[merry stirrup]

yeah my z590 was that way

all of the leds are red for the ezdbug

yeah people have no issues on h310 boards honestly

[pure garnet]

i mean yeah if you're not doing anything to things it'll work

[merry stirrup]

most board problems are due to specific use case things

[pure garnet]

the only time the postcode matters for me is with memory tuning

[merry stirrup]

yusss

[cold orbit]

yall did i cook with this

[merry stirrup]

no

corsair ram, already invalidated

why is there a sata drive

[pure garnet]

$120 for micron

[merry stirrup]

this is pretty bad man

[low sorrel]

floppa do i swap my 32gb of ram to my other b die kit so i can get better y cruncher scores?

[merry stirrup]

duh

[wise bear]

kinda sucks ngl

[cold orbit]

it says 1320$ but there are some thigns that say price unavailable so might be higher

[cold orbit]

huh wuh

[merry stirrup]

its just not great i wont lie to you

[low sorrel]

are you not in the us or something

[wise bear]

why did you get a 1tb sata ssd and a 2tb nvme like you could've bought a 4tb nvme for the price of both of those

[cold orbit]

oh shit okay

[merry stirrup]

ill ask a few questions

why the overpriced ram?
why the sata SSD with an nvme?

he has both

[cold orbit]

yup

[merry stirrup]

the ram is overpriced and not fine

why must you be so confidently wrong when you can go look yourself

[wise bear]

vengeance ram sucks tbh

[merry stirrup]

okay sure everyone go buy fucking 400$ kit of ram

[vestal granite]

cancer is fine I HAVE IT

[merry stirrup]

yeah instead of 80 or 90

[cold orbit]

hold up how do i look that up

[merry stirrup]

spend a whole third more on nothing

[merry stirrup]

im making a you a list g

[wise bear]

[merry stirrup]

9600xt isnt a cpu

[pure garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJFJcx

[merry stirrup]

thanks kyo

[pure garnet]

i left your case since you probably liked that

[merry stirrup]

that board is absurd for a 7600x lol

[acoustic echo]

Is this pc worth 4500sek? 400Eurod

2nd hand

[pure garnet]

counterpoint: i didn't feel like sorting that much

[cold orbit]

i didnt i just asked chatgpt for a decent case that fits everything 💔

[wise bear]

??????

[merry stirrup]

ill do that

[shell void]

the gpu is okay but the rest of it is worthless

[vestal granite]

who am I supposed to be angry at right now

[wise bear]

im angry at everyone dw

[merry stirrup]

why 2 * 2tb drives instead of just a 4tb drive

[pure garnet]

ngl again i kinda just scrolled for cheap ssds

[acoustic echo]

Ive never had pc so its @ss even for a beginner

[pure garnet]

i don't buy anything without dram cache

[topaz veldt]

I am mad at myself for getting the number of fittings i need wrong

[shell void]

the cpu is a 10 year old 4-core, it will stutter in new games

[cold orbit]

wait that looks kinda goated tho

[shell void]

6 cores minimum in 2025

[merry stirrup]

how much money do you want to spend

[wise bear]

I'm buy a gun today

[topaz veldt]

yeeeesh

[low sorrel]

then where are you from

[cold orbit]

preferably like 1150$ but i can go higher with saving

[low sorrel]

your using US pc part picker

[acoustic echo]

My budget is like double that

So 800eur ish?

[cold orbit]

saudi arabia

[cold orbit]

oh shit

[merry stirrup]

how much do you want to spend in your actual currency

[acoustic echo]

I don’t know what to get though I’m literally clueless

IVE played Xbox for my whole life so I know fk all about pcs

[cold orbit]

like 4500 sar but i can go up to 5000

هلا والله!!!

[merry stirrup]

k thanks shawtie

[arctic bronze]

yall gotta speak english here, thats apart of the server rules

[shell void]

@pure garnet wendell got 4x64GB 6000 ycruncher stable on our motherboard

[cold orbit]

alr alr mb i just had to say hi back

[acoustic echo]

CPU: intel i9 10900KF
GPU: Geforce RTX 2070 Super
Ram: 32GB HyperX Fury DDR4
Moderkort: Asus Tuf gaming
Vattenkylning
Lagring:
SSD 1, 500GB
SSD 2, 1TB
M2 disk 2TB (för den okunnige, väldigt snabb disk som i princip eliminerar laddningstider)

[low sorrel]

like a melody

[pure garnet]

ooh

[acoustic echo]

700eur ish

A bit less maybe

[arctic bronze]

na its good, was just letting you know lol

[cold orbit]

oh okay

hell yeah thanks mate

[acoustic echo]

For 650eur is this worth it or na

[pure garnet]

it's better than the last one

you'd probably be happy with it at 1080p

[acoustic echo]

Well for my budget I won’t be able to get something great regardless