tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

there was no 1st gen e3 xeons

[molten iron]

I don’t think $300 for slight performance upgrade is worth it.

I bought the 9800x3d and I love it.

[merry stirrup]

1st gen xeons were X 56XX

[green marsh]

difference is that Haswell-E on both desktop and Xeon part had DDR4, which is confusing

[heavy mantle]

intrexti

[odd sable]

oh, they skipped v4, thats why

[heavy mantle]

iinteresting

[merry stirrup]

v4 wasnt skipped, thats broadwell

[timid rover]

no

[heavy mantle]

tho i ne

[merry stirrup]

i have a 2690 v4 in my server wdym lol

[odd sable]

do v4 e3s exist?

[heavy mantle]

omg my keyboard wth

[timid rover]

v4 on x99 is mostly than lga 1150

[merry stirrup]

yeah 1285 v4

[green marsh]

well, they weren't called v1, but they are in all form or shape v1 😄 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/52275/intel-xeon-processor-e31260l-8m-cache-2-40-ghz/specifications.html

[timid rover]

yes

[merry stirrup]

well no v=v1

[odd sable]

k, i stand corrected

[timid rover]

iris pro p6300, which is better than hd p4600

[rich idol]

Just wondering if its worth the upgrade, I haven't even opened my 9800x3d yet, still waiting for the some of the other parts to arrive

[merry stirrup]

well its broradwell

its iris graphics cause its a 5775c or similar

[green marsh]

that is up to you to decide

[odd sable]

i have a 9950x3d, though it runs linux and not windows, so, may not be exactly representative if the benchmark can even be run

[pure garnet]

if your workload benefits from cores it's worth it

[merry stirrup]

might be on to something

[pure garnet]

if you don't use them they're not going to be worth it

[heavy mantle]

pfft the only mobo i have rn without a use is the b150 mobo i have in it, and like ehh i dont want to try mutants again🫥

[green marsh]

talking about that, i remember how fast Intel dropped their CPUs with those Radeon GPU cores. Wondering if they will be as brutal to the Intel+Nvidia CPU combos

[merry stirrup]

i try to explain ram to people like this and they dont understand

[pure garnet]

or people mad that windows caches stuff in ram

[merry stirrup]

"but but chrome uses 83mb more ram"

WHO CARES

[merry stirrup]

😭 fr

[pure garnet]

the linux community is bad for that too

"oh bro kde is so bloated it uses 2gb at idle" brother you have 48gb of ram

[merry stirrup]

im all for optimized programs but there is a point of diminishing returns where youre just wasting time optimizing for KB of memory usage

[green marsh]

meanwhile LM Studio loads up a model and 40-70GB of RAM is gone /s

[odd sable]

only 48GB?

[merry stirrup]

if your ram is not maxxed out you dont have anything to worry about its that simple

[merry stirrup]

literally 😭 focus on the weakest link

[pure garnet]

sorry i’m a 1r coper

i use 2x24

[odd sable]

the way RAM was meant to be used

[green marsh]

my RAM sizes in various sytems here:
128GB x 2, 64GB x 2, 32GB x 1, 16GB x 5 😄 (i mean i have that many computers with that amount of RAM)

[merry stirrup]

damn right

[edgy laurel]

9800x3D and 9950x3D? Well, one has twice the cores. Logic tells us that in heavily mutli-threaded operations, the 9950x3D could potentially be up to twice as fast. What application will you be using? You can browse through a review and even pick specific things. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d/

[odd sable]

alternatively,

[merry stirrup]

the whole point is for it to be full

[mellow scaffold]

Yo does anyone know of M.2 Slot keyed B+M, that supports pcie X4

[merry stirrup]

no lol

[pure garnet]

bloat

[merry stirrup]

never seen a dual keyed slot out in the wild tbh

[odd sable]

i find the reaction to a game using all available RAM kinda dumb too, like, yes, its caching assets, you want it to do that

[merry stirrup]

EXACTLY

[green marsh]

SSDs are keyed B+M, not M.2 slots

[steel stream]

unused ram is bad ram

[merry stirrup]

yes

[odd sable]

its not a memory leak, its the game utilizing your system...

[merry stirrup]

why im not too pressed about 32gb still

i use a good amount of ram but i dont hit 30gb+ that often atm

meaning, no reason to upgrade capacity and i should just focus speed

[raven citrus]

make a 30gb page file

[merry stirrup]

i have no page file

[odd sable]

ive OOMed 32GB enough that i run 64GB+ in general

and i dont mean just "used most-all of it" i mean had things start acting weird or actually fail to work because OOM

[merry stirrup]

this is valid

[odd sable]

and/or locked up the system

[merry stirrup]

yeah i deal with this at work all the time lol

[odd sable]

this is my work machine

i have that kind of issue but with 64GB at work

[merry stirrup]

just depends on the user here

[green marsh]

still feels weird to run 128GB RAM with 3900X, but it is not economically reasonable to switch to 5950x/5900xt and it's not like i can use that RAM on anything else. Also it is only 3600CL18 🤷‍♂️

[pure garnet]

do you even need the 5950x in that system

[green marsh]

no, it is just a backup 'server/PC' as it is not really worth to sell the parts

[rich idol]

Affinity Photo, Capture One, Davinci Resolve, Blender

[edgy laurel]

Now you know what to look for

[hoary hatch]

The fancy GPU tile is still TSMC

[fringe vigil]

What’s the one song that’s played in the office when Jim and Pam get married

[hoary hatch]

I am assuming PCH is N6 and N6 is probably the cheapest modern node?

[fringe vigil]

yhh

[modest gazelle]

Hello there, I got a free 2013 MACBOOK AIR but it stays at 800MHz (CPU) and thus is super slow
any idea why?

[hoary hatch]

It is a 2013 MacBook air

[edgy laurel]

first defining what "it" means

[modest gazelle]

the CPU won't clock above 700MHz

instead of the base 1.4 GHz or 2.00 GHz boost clock

[merry stirrup]

throttling

really hard it seems lol

[modest gazelle]

yeah but it's not even hot or anything

[edgy laurel]

yeah, just monitor more than just clockspeed and you should see whats happening

[modest gazelle]

?

[edgy laurel]

monitor stats

temps

[hoary hatch]

It's a 2013 MacBook air

[modest gazelle]

temps are cold 40°C cpu

[steel stream]

gotta take what you can get

[hoary hatch]

Are you checking the clock speed in a workload or is the laptop completely idle

[merry stirrup]

they do not run natively at 700mhz

[pure garnet]

when the xps powery deliver stuff failed the cpu got locked to 800mhz

might be a similar issue

[merry stirrup]

sounds probable

[hoary hatch]

It's a 12 year old MacBook that is probably heavily used

[turbid locust]

Forgot how nice the G305 feels ngl

[pure garnet]

“powery deliver” just take my computer away

[modest gazelle]

any cases, it doesn't change at all

[low sorrel]

It's not bit perfect

[modest gazelle]

not at all, it's in a nice condition and only 250 battery cycles

[merry stirrup]

nice condition implies it works

[modest gazelle]

xps povery deliver?

[modest gazelle]

cosmetically

[merry stirrup]

poverty delivery

[modest gazelle]

lol

[pure garnet]

power delivery

[modest gazelle]

i resetted the pram, it now goes to 2ghza

[merry stirrup]

ah yes my pram

[hoary hatch]

Oh it's haswell

[modest gazelle]

it's super snappy now

[merry stirrup]

how could i forget

[fringe vigil]

Kodak no floking

[pure garnet]

it’s a thing on the macbooks

[modest gazelle]

?

[hoary hatch]

Original battery?

[merry stirrup]

how did you not know this arent you the resident intel guy

[modest gazelle]

i don't know it was given by a mother to me

[merry stirrup]

i know lol it’s just weird. like nvram, i think those are the same

[hoary hatch]

I was thinking maybe ivy bridge

[pure garnet]

they are

[merry stirrup]

non volatile ram and persistent ram

[hoary hatch]

Or Sandy bridge

[fringe vigil]

https://youtu.be/UE_-obgiWm0?si=Egeuh92YzPH3seot

[hoary hatch]

Whichever was 22nm

[merry stirrup]

neither of those clock to 800mhz base

haswell is 22nm i think bro

[modest gazelle]

i need to boot to mac to see if the battery is original

[low sorrel]

Oooo good deal
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/mAuTmphiHQ

[modest gazelle]

i'm on windows 11 (ext ssd) for now

the original mac is under a password

[merry stirrup]

haswell is 22nm

ivy is also 22nm ok my bad

[modest gazelle]

battery show 19% wear level under windows but I don't thin the person got it changed... i will open it now

[pure garnet]

flops don’t know the tick tock design

[merry stirrup]

@hoary hatch why was haswell so much more efficient

[merry stirrup]

haswell should’ve been a tick, not another 22nm tho right

assuming tick is the good one

[pure garnet]

broadwell was supposed to be the first 14nm desktop

then it failed there and skylake came out on 14nm

[merry stirrup]

mmmm mmm

[pure garnet]

haswell refresh was the first oh shoot gap launch

[hoary hatch]

It was new architecture

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

[pure garnet]

tock was new process iirc

[hoary hatch]

Well it was the first 14nm desktop technically

[pure garnet]

it fell apart so long ago i may be misinfo

[merry stirrup]

it is indeed

[hoary hatch]

Just a super narrow release

[merry stirrup]

C cpus were odd tho

C=cache i assume too

[edgy laurel]

reset*

[hoary hatch]

Broadwell laptop chips did have a normal enough market release

[edgy laurel]

(sorry that bugs me)

[merry stirrup]

and broadwell server was great

[modest gazelle]

battery is made by simplo

[edgy laurel]

if I hear one more person in a game say "headshotted" i'm going to lose it

[modest gazelle]

so OEM for apple, it's original but i don't if original to this laptop

[hoary hatch]

The core designs were significantly simpler

Raptor cove and lion cove are massive compared to haswell core

[merry stirrup]

mkay i’ll take that

very interesting thank you

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-any-haircut-recommendations-low-taper-fade-you-know-what-else-is-massive-gif-3708438262570242561

[modest gazelle]

what surprises me: the battery isn't pregnant

[hoary hatch]

More complexity = more transistors = more power

[merry stirrup]

why did we move away from fivr after haswell?

[modest gazelle]

it was 0% but now it's charging

[edgy laurel]

is this who it looks like?

[fringe vigil]

Yall ready for bf6

[edgy laurel]

no

[fringe vigil]

wtf why

[steel stream]

some bird man yeah

[edgy laurel]

wait..

[merry stirrup]

this is implying transistor count didn’t increase much?

or just smarter overall design

[hoary hatch]

Hm?

I don't think Skylake was a radical core redesign on haswell

[languid nimbus]

2 days til my birthday

[hoary hatch]

Skylake years focused on pushing core count and more clocks

They did have higher IPC

[merry stirrup]

only took 4 years

[hoary hatch]

But golden cove in 12th gen was a big jump

[modest gazelle]

anyway it's a i5-4260U - 4 GB DDR3 (soldered on) - 120 GB Sandisk SSD laptop but to run basic tasks it'll do

i clean the lid and back and keyboard but they were rather clean

but it works, and free

[hoary hatch]

If I had to guess, I'd suspect a future Intel unified core looks more like an E core than a P core

[steel stream]

<3 E-cores

[frank zealot]

holy shit, I think I found a justification for a R5 5500

"please take our e-waste off our hands"

[south shuttle]

too high price

[merry stirrup]

o clock it

[rich idol]

i got a 5600G on my current rig

[modest gazelle]

ok guys before I let you

i wanna talk about this 2013 macbook air ONE LAST TIME with you

the SSD is original and there's the HOUR WORK count on it

[rich idol]

uh oh

[modest gazelle]

guess how many hours that MBA 2013 was used

i'll pay one allopass to the person the closest

[pure garnet]

tf is an allopass

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[rich idol]

my thoughts exactly

[modest gazelle]

it used to be a payment method on internet by geting a number given on a paid phone call

[pure garnet]

going with like 5k power on hours i guess

[modest gazelle]

that kids would do in the back of their parents, cf: you get nothing, just try to guess the amount of hours of that 2013 macbook air

[frank zealot]

well, if it'd been running 24/7 that'd be a little under 100k hours

But that's unreasonable, so I'll say 30k

[modest gazelle]

you guys aren't ready

i can provide photo if you need

you're all so far

[fringe vigil]

Come on bud

I am

Show the photos

[turbid locust]

at least 30 mins power on time

[frank zealot]

hopefully the number's under 20 so jorj can count high enough

[modest gazelle]

lol

[random flame]

Iii'm just gonna continue watching a vid about every Atari console launch, thanks.

[modest gazelle]

yes of course, that'd be sad

11343 power ons

856 power on hours

[topaz veldt]

@slim pebble

[modest gazelle]

prettiiii

[frank zealot]

das shiny

[frank zealot]

that's got to be a fuckup, that can't be right

each power on was run for less than 5 minutes?

[modest gazelle]

she told me her kid barely used it

i have a macbook ssd in my desktop pc that I used as swap

[frank zealot]

but that math isn't mathing

nobody's going to use a computer for less than 5 minutes

[modest gazelle]

the amount of hours was normal

[frank zealot]

800 hours in 12 years? not really

[modest gazelle]

i guess you never saw many people pc's numbers

i've seen that countless times

[frank zealot]

its a hdd, 2+ minutes of that is turning on

[modest gazelle]

see

[frank zealot]

see you proving me right? yes I do

[modest gazelle]

nah, it proves neither

why would the ssd give false numbers

[frank zealot]

that's over 2 hours per power on, not sub 5 minutes

that's reasonable

[modest gazelle]

yeah but I've doing most of the use of that ssd, i got it from the macbook air of someone that only lasted 2 years before it died

it had only 300 hours use in 2 ytears

wait i'm gonna try updating crystaldisk info

it's an oldversion maybe it gives bad numbers!!

[frank zealot]

sub 5 minutes per power on doesn't make sense

and no amount of mental gymnastics on your part is going to make that make sense

[modest gazelle]

wait until i boot under mac os, we will the amount of battery cycles

and will now if it goes with the amout of hours on the ssd

i need to reinstall mac os

latest CDI still gives 856 hours

[wise bear]

[odd sable]

that is what the SMART data is reporting though

[modest gazelle]

average macbook air battery cycle give 7 hours

[flint citrus]

guys will a gen5 5090 work on a gen 4 gpu slot or will it ruin performance by a lot

[modest gazelle]

we should see.. 122 cycles, i'll report once i'm under macOS with coconut battery

[odd sable]

the raw SMART data,
0x09 is the power on hours, and thats value is 0x358
0x0C is the power on count, with a value of 0x2C4F

[frank zealot]

performance will be hit, yes, but not crippled.

But what are you running for a CPU that's gen4?

cuz if your CPU is only gen 4? That's probably going to be your bottleneck

[flint citrus]

i jsuted wanted to see i am getting 5060 ti and i want to upgrade to high end so i wanted to see if it good and cpu is the 7800x3d

[frank zealot]

7800x3d is gen5

[odd sable]

the 7800x3d is gen5

[modest gazelle]

which translates to?

[frank zealot]

unless you're on A620 or A840

[flint citrus]

i know

i am on b650

[frail marlin]

is it a good idea to upgrade from a 3060 to a 5070 or should i look for a different card

[frank zealot]

so why the hell are you asking about gen 4?

[odd sable]

its just hex, google can do it for you

[flint citrus]

the mobo has a gen 4 gpu slot

[frank zealot]

what board? most B650 are gen 5

[flint citrus]

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/

[odd sable]

huh, it does

[frank zealot]

that sucks for you, yup it's gen 4

[flint citrus]

it came in the 7800x3d bundle

[odd sable]

i wouldn't worry about it too much, so long as its running at x16 (which on that board, it always will)

[flint citrus]

ok will it be good board to upgrade to high end gpu in future

[odd sable]

usually PCIe generation isn't the bottleneck

[frank zealot]

Gen 4 will limit a 5090 some, but anything lower will basically ignore it

[odd sable]

it can be when comboed with lower width too

[flint citrus]

ok

[odd sable]

pcie 4.0 may not be a big problem, but 4.0x8 could be (vs 5.0x16)

[flint citrus]

should i upgrade my mobo in future or keep this one

[frank zealot]

4x8 would cripple a 5090

[odd sable]

hence the 6500xt being such a problem being an x4 card in the first place

[frank zealot]

Are you actually going to buy a 5090 or just dreaming about it

[modest gazelle]

booting high sierra from usb on the 2013 macbook air... with a 5400tpm WD HDD... painfully slow

[flint citrus]

I am planing on getting used one in future @frank zealot

[thick frost]

dual core i5 with spinning rust

yerp

[frank zealot]

So, mostly dreaming. What GPU do you plan to run for the next few years until that's feasible?

[modest gazelle]

ok

reaching the amount of battery cycles... calculated 112 ... truth is :

509 cycles...

[flint citrus]

5060 ti

[modest gazelle]

509 cycles and 856 power on hours... impossible

[frank zealot]

a 5060 TI won't notice at all

[flint citrus]

ok

[frank zealot]

and your CPU is stupidly overpowered for aa 5060 lol

make sure it's at least the 16GB version

[flint citrus]

yea it came with mobo adn ram bundle and it was a good deal so i got a godo cpu

[frank zealot]

just don't get the 8gb card

[wise bear]

all this for $140.. good legal weed is getting cheap

[flint citrus]

ok

[modest gazelle]

i'm disappointed... 500 cycles for 856 power on hours truly is not mathing.

[low sorrel]

that seems overpriced

[merry stirrup]

worlds first giving birth live stream

[low sorrel]

pretty sure it's alot less in canada

[wise bear]

wtf

[low sorrel]

yeah i saw that

[merry stirrup]

"yo chat what do we name it"
😭

[steel stream]

W BABY

[merry stirrup]

chat was spamming "push" 😭

[topaz veldt]

Here we go. If you know you know.

[wise bear]

well yeah its nationally legal, the taxes on mine alone was $24

[low sorrel]

W BABY

[steel stream]

POG BABY POG

[merry stirrup]

W BABY

[wise bear]

sorry, what

[merry stirrup]

imagine

[merry stirrup]

hm

L baby?

[low sorrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1o148pq/fandy_becomes_the_first_streamer_to_give_birth/

[wise bear]

birthing livestream??

what the shit

[low sorrel]

tagged World of Warcraft stream btw

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[frank zealot]

the internet was a mistake

[merry stirrup]

wow was gettting viewers that day

[frank zealot]

okay, Today's LTT Video is gonna have a different viewer base

[frank cypress]

no way

[wise bear]

I mean

at least its not what I thought it'd be

[merry stirrup]

you guys clearly didnt watch my birth in 06 on channel 12

[wise bear]

I was expecting stirrups and everything

[steel stream]

wat

[merry stirrup]

LMAO

[low sorrel]

yeah i thought it was that when i read it at first

[frank zealot]

I wonder how many thirst comments linus is gonna get on today's video and then get shadowbanned

[wise bear]

wut

[frank cypress]

im out of the loop

what is happening?

[wise bear]

oh its tynan underwater & shirtless

[low sorrel]

what

[frank zealot]

it's a video about an in-pool speaker

and linus spends a lotta time in the pool shirtless

[frank cypress]

uh huh

[frank zealot]

so I'm imaging they're gonna have.... comments

[low sorrel]

the audio sounds so tinny on that video

sounds like it was shot on a phone or something

ohhhhhh it's probably because they can't have the mic on linus

[frank zealot]

I doubt their microphones are designed to work in water

[wise bear]

MEH

[pure garnet]

06????!

[merry stirrup]

yes dude

[wise bear]

flooper's like, 19

[low sorrel]

06? i thought you were like 5 years older then me

only 2 what a baby

[merry stirrup]

no man im not unc how many times we been through this

[frank zealot]

shakes cane at floppa

[pure garnet]

bro flops like my sisters age that’s crazy

[merry stirrup]

my goal today is to beat my tile frenzy score

its really annoying to cclick more than 132 times in 30 seconds though

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup you should ask him this #tech-chat-2 message

[merry stirrup]

i have a wife

[low sorrel]

huh

[frank zealot]

0.o

[wise bear]

[merry stirrup]

not fr my wife but a girlfriend lmao 😭

taking me of all people serious, fr guys? 💀

[low sorrel]

@pallid marsh i've got a new target for you instead

[merry stirrup]

problem is that coopa is probably unc

[low sorrel]

hes like 25 i think

[merry stirrup]

what if kyokos sister dont like dudes huh huh

[low sorrel]

uhhh skill issue

[wise bear]

not really, a lot of guys suck

[pure garnet]

i don’t wanna be shit talking but

nah i’ll actually just stay quiet on it

moondrop box cool tho

[low sorrel]

you can't say that and then not tell us

[wise bear]

ill take the heat kyo dw

[pure garnet]

my sister isn’t the brightest that’s the takeaway

[wise bear]

Oh nvm I don't want none of that

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

she’s supposedly dating some dude in tusnia that doesn’t own any form of a camera

[wise bear]

Oh dear.

[low sorrel]

damn

[pure garnet]

she don’t have my social security number so all is well on my end

[low sorrel]

oh dear

[wise bear]

I thought kyo was gonna side w/ me tbh

[merry stirrup]

never giggled harder

[frank zealot]

uhhhhhhh

[wise bear]

look we're all stupid at some point with shit like this

[frank zealot]

Why you lettin her get catfished like that

[wise bear]

that too, yeah

[low sorrel]

that raised a red flag for me faster then the marshals after grojeans 2020 bahrain gp crash

[pure garnet]

we have all attempted to say something

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/red-flag-running-red-flag-dustin-poynter-relationships-susan-b-anthony-gif-6761938210596355322

[young void]

There are many fish in the sea most alive past 05 with some sort of cam

But alas may she learn with minimal pain xD

[wise bear]

tusnian catfish though

[low sorrel]

minus her identity

[wise bear]

tusnia of all places

[young void]

My mom told me she was talking to Johnny depp once and I had to be like maaaa are you fr rn

[steel stream]

wat

[young void]

XD she learned eventually but ridiculous

[steel stream]

heard it's tasty

[wise bear]

[merry stirrup]

#resurrect king von

[low sorrel]

isn't catfish actually tasty

[wise bear]

#Pey4Pres

[young void]

Fatty feesh

[merry stirrup]

sister said tastes like chicken

[wise bear]

I don't think I've had catfish yet tbh

[young void]

Wrap with some butter and potatoes over a fire

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von---armed-%26-dangerous-gif-14036418018113420066

[merry stirrup]

she went to new orleans for work i bet it was cool af

[wise bear]

i want fire roasted corn on the cob tbh

but NOOOOOO its not corn season anymore

we can genetically modify apples to not brown but we can't genetically modify corn to grow year-round

[frank zealot]

okay this is hilarious

[low sorrel]

am i the only one who can eat tomoates normally but hates tomato and egg stirfry

[young void]

My apartments giving out free corn one day a week its kinda weird but neat I guess

[wise bear]

wtf im so down

[frank zealot]

mmmm fire roasted corn

[young void]

My brother snagged a bag the other day xD

[low sorrel]

thats kinda weird but like free corn

[young void]

Right thats where im at lol

If I get sick in the next few weeks ill be suspicious

Guinee pig the low-income houses

[wise bear]

sterilize by cooking, duhh

[young void]

Squints wonder if Monsanto is testing a new thing

No one just gives out free corn

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[wise bear]

2008 called it wants it's fear-mongering from glen beck back

[low sorrel]

they put microchips in the corn

[low sorrel]

hey thats when i was born

[frank zealot]

Rush Limby?

[young void]

Im still eating it lol but curious non the less

[low sorrel]

anyways i watched the video it's actualyl kinda interesting

[frank zealot]

it is interesting

but I expect the deviants to be out in force

[young void]

Gets crushed by demon hunters playing as demon hunters in fortnite, savage

[low sorrel]

also sidenote i just realized you could probably share those headphones and it not being nasty

[frank zealot]

if they actually fit your friends right

[green marsh]

when decades ago my dad was playing some version of need for speed (or was it GTA3 ? Can't remember) and he was going like 40km/h 😄

[frank zealot]

rofl

[young void]

So how is tc2 today?

I miss anything wild

[fringe vigil]

hi

[frank zealot]

https://youtu.be/qPdJqlEiMhk?t=361

That's a fuckton of putty

[low sorrel]

did you see this worm

[frank zealot]

I guess spoiler: If you've got an Aorus 50 series? hope you never have to repaste/repad

[young void]

Dude must've been new or the machine was off or something not sure how gigabyte does it but id hope thats an irregularitie

[frank zealot]

the putty? that's factory

[wise bear]

why pad when putty

[young void]

If they're all like that not sure it'd thermal transfer appropriately but mayhaps

[frank zealot]

pads don't accidentally leak out of the heatsink?

[wise bear]

twas sarcasm, friend

[frank zealot]

lolol

[wise bear]

I know very well that pads are superior (and perform better)

[rich idol]

anyone here good with headphones? I wanna get new headphones for my next PC but idk what brands or models are consider good, i was thinking of getting a closed-back pair for gaming, and an open-back pair for video editing/audio mixing and music listening

[frank zealot]

but check that time stamp, holy shit it's ugly

[young void]

They've been into the kpops lately

[frank zealot]

trying too hard, as an artform

[low sorrel]

what your budget

[young void]

Oh thats not what I thought it was

What the frig Jerry lol

[low sorrel]

i was very confused when you said that you would show the missus

[south shuttle]

quantity over quality always right

[frank zealot]

part of me wants to toss one of those cards in an ultrasonic bath of ISO

[rich idol]

I mean i wanted one jack-of-all-trades headset originally, but form what i could tell there isn't really any headphones that are good at everything

[young void]

I thought it was the fortnite thing got yours and tk post mixed

Yours is cursed lol

[steel stream]

you could technically just use open back for both

[wise bear]

light it on fire too for good measure

[low sorrel]

the internet was a mistake

[rich idol]

I was thinking around 800 USD total

[wise bear]

??????????????

[rich idol]

Im concerned about sound leakage when gaming with VC

[topaz veldt]

@slim pebble

[wise bear]

"sound leakage" yeah ok somebodys been on the audiophile forum too much

[low sorrel]

ain't nobody hearing that siht

[young void]

The dripppp

[steel stream]

unless they are cranked to an unsafe limit

[topaz veldt]

now to send out for laser cutting

[steel stream]

5nail bin GPU

[low sorrel]

peyton I was playing ron with open backs when i was playing with you did you hear anything?

[wise bear]

no

[low sorrel]

exactly

[wise bear]

then again i could barely hear you either because you don't know proper mic distancing :u

[low sorrel]

THE MIC WAS ON THE FLOOR

[wise bear]

UH HUH

[low sorrel]

MY MIC ARM BROKE OK

[wise bear]

UH HUH

[turbid locust]

Clicked the wrong button in our scheduling program and fucked up next weeks entire schedule

[wise bear]

LOL

[turbid locust]

this is not lit

[frank zealot]

yeah, trying too hard as an artform

[wise bear]

ctrl z

[low sorrel]

litttt

alt f4

[turbid locust]

program is terrible this doesn’t work

[rich idol]

never mind

[turbid locust]

There’s no undo button

[shell void]

you’re so cooked it’s unreal gg

[low sorrel]

so what did you learn

Wtf all microcenter bundles have no ram now

Only motherboard and CPU

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-star-wars-darth-vader-gif-8348766

and probs the same price too right

[merry stirrup]

getting close

[low sorrel]

I think slightly less 450 for the 7800x3d

350 for the 7600x3d

[slim pebble]

I love the snail! lol that’s great.

[merry stirrup]

😭

[low sorrel]

Is this kovvaks or smtg

[merry stirrup]

yes

[low sorrel]

You know what you should be playing instead of kovvaks ready or not

[steel stream]

I would but I have exam tomorrow

[low sorrel]

Wait akn you have RoN?

[merry stirrup]

nuhuh im working

[steel stream]

yes

[low sorrel]

Why are on kovvaks

[steel stream]

what game did we play together I forgot

[low sorrel]

Hd2

[steel stream]

that's right

[low sorrel]

Hold up we have Peyton, Mac me, floppa and you with RoN

That means we have a full lobby

[merry stirrup]

cause you dont have to lockin for tht

[low sorrel]

And you think we were locked in for RoN?

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream I assume they don't mean what I think they mean with RoN

[steel stream]

sadly not

[steel stream]

could be the move

[edgy laurel]

i'm just going to keep thinking thats what it means, more interesting

and yeah that would be a sick day 1 team

[low sorrel]

What do you think it is?

Rise of nations?

[edgy laurel]

no

[low sorrel]

What is it

[fringe vigil]

[vagrant cargo]

Ok guys I need tips or adive aka ideas for my set up the image is a mess as im still moving stuff about ok so im gonna get a l shaped desk and get a thin media central for bottom of bed, Instead of a 4k projector im just considering getting my self a cheap 4k oled tv so when im in bed I can watch a film and right next to ut is my pc set up, question however should I have the pc on the left side or the right side of my desk? And any tips for whag desk you think will go well here personally media centre wise I dont want drawers near floor as its gonna be a struggle to open it

[wise bear]

is your room usually dark

if so, just get a semi-decent projector

trust fam

[vagrant cargo]

No i have govee lights , I currently have a hd projector trouble is its short throw alot so I have to have a furniture shelf behind me for now so I can use projector on the wall , issue is however it supposedly does 1080p but I assume its 720p need to check and only does 70 hertz

4k projectors or the ones I want that are actually 4k not those false 4k ones where its actually just 1080p

[wise bear]

i mean you could either buy a decent projector or spend 2x the cost on an oled

[vagrant cargo]

Depends really where you buy the tv in uk some 4k tvs always on sale

[grave lion]

@fringe vigil

[wise bear]

wait did you get ron

[fringe vigil]

can I help you sir?

[pure garnet]

i can’t get a tv over like 50 inches so my options were either $200 or $700

[grave lion]

I miss you jorj

[wise bear]

now kiss

[vagrant cargo]

Tbh in a room the size im in 50 inch might be a bit ridiculous

[grave lion]

at a family reunion?

[wise bear]

jorj has family?? I thought he was just an anomaly

[vagrant cargo]

Saying that though if the media cente is jusy tall enough I could have a at home cinema set up just using a 50 inch tv and some audiophile grade headphones

[whole coral]

Yummy drink

[grave lion]

Jorj is my long lost twin

[pure garnet]

headphones with a tv?

[vagrant cargo]

Like my dan clark e3s or even use my focal bathy MG headphones wired or in bluetooth

[vagrant cargo]

The walls in the house im renting a room in arent great for keeping noise in or out so speakers and a sound bar are a no go

[wise bear]

lameeeeeeeee

[whole coral]

So glad I’m not lactose intolerant. I love dairy food tbh

[wise bear]

jsut buy your own house ezpz

[whole coral]

Ice cream, cheese, clam chowder, etc

[pure garnet]

i need to reposition my speakers so they’re in front of my air conditioner

otherwise at night i can barely hear the television

[vagrant cargo]

Tbh one of the Tennants eveey few days blasts really loud edm music and is starting to get on my last god dam nerve its either that or he is playing guitar or drums

[wise bear]

dude if I ever become lactose intolerant I will become very depressed

[pure garnet]

my sleep schedule is fried so i usually just watch like 3h of tv before bed

[pure garnet]

you can become tolerant again by just mega dosing lactose

your body just learns to get used to it

[whole coral]

Some people are naturally lactose tolerant because of a genetic mutation

[whole coral]

I think 30% of adults are lactase persistent

[wise bear]

as you suffer with the asshole of mt vesuvius

[pure garnet]

yeah take a week off work but

it would work if you keep at it

[wise bear]

a week

[odd sable]

i mean, or dont, your choice

[wise bear]

I think I would rather perish than go through that form of intestinal hell

[whole coral]

This is interesting

[pure garnet]

1 week of torture vs eternal ice cream

[wise bear]

I don't even eat that much ice cream 'cause it makes me fat :(

[whole coral]

I guess being able to drink milk was beneficial in times of famine. Natural selection so to speak

[whole coral]

Omg I love ice cream

Chocolate ice cream… yummy

[topaz veldt]

This will be me tomorrow 🙁 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPdJqlEiMhk

[wise bear]

waterpik with warmed iso alch

[vagrant cargo]

For me its mess about on my phone browse youtube or lose track of time playing a game and a few times recently ive done so until 4am now on aome days last 2 week ive only done one full day shift once at my second job which is my kitchen one, so this week i dont start until 5pm so I can stop in bed until 12 if I want to and just get ready before 3pm to head to work

[vagrant cargo]

Is there any really good 4k gaming monitors non oled at 42 inch and maybe mini led? Under 1200 pound tbh most likely just getting a 32 inch BenQ Mobiuz EX321UX

[candid tartan]

Boys, can I ask you something

[vagrant cargo]

So that maybe one 27 inch monitor on the side and then a 42 to 50 inch oled for films in front of my of my bed

[vagrant cargo]

Sure go ahead

[candid tartan]

Am I in a bad spot ?

[frank zealot]

Ultrasonic Bucket full of ISO

[vagrant cargo]

Wallpaper engine or normal wallpaper?

[candid tartan]

Does that with and without Wallpaper engine

Caused by me trying to load up FH5, RX6800xt

[vagrant cargo]

Took me a second to realise those things werent apart of the wallpaper? Did you have issues like that before hand with the monitor your using

[candid tartan]

I just got a new paper weight didnt I ?

No, it came after I moved, I left the GPU

[vagrant cargo]

Wait that monitor looks nice what type of monitor is it like the colour on the bottom

[pure garnet]

that looks like gpu artifacting more than the monitor

[candid tartan]

It is on both monitors

[pure garnet]

then yeah it’s the gpu

[candid tartan]

the monitor is a cheap ass G27 AOC

it's not even IPS

[vagrant cargo]

I wish qe got more monitors in other colours other than white and black

[frank zealot]

That's GPU Artifacting

[steel stream]

SOL

[frank zealot]

Possibly VRAM or other issues, you're in it deep

[steel stream]

can try DDU but might be over

[candid tartan]

So time to fork out the money for a 5080 ?

[topaz veldt]

I am thinking of skipping ultra sonic - huge fire hazard

[vagrant cargo]

Tbh Im making a exception for the mobiuz monitor I ordered but I normally dont like white monitors, in my opinion they should offer monitors in different colours so people can get the monitor they want in the colour they want

[frank zealot]

It's not Space Invaders, but it's absolutely a gpu issue

[steel stream]

5nail good new for your kids, A minecraft movie 2 coming out in 2027

[topaz veldt]

DUDE. My son kept saying "Minecraft 2" I am like bro there is no Minecraft 2

[candid tartan]

Just repaint them LTT has a full Tutorial

[frank zealot]

that just makes it more fun

[steel stream]

He's a prophet!

[frank zealot]

does bedrock count as minecraft 2?

[vagrant cargo]

What card did your current gou compete with in today's market? Because I would say get a 5070 ti if that exists im not sure or a 9700 xt

[steel stream]

The Mine-siah!

[vagrant cargo]

Well once ive reorganised my set up snd plugged my projector and stuff in thats what im gonna do

[candid tartan]

Idk, back when it came out it was against a 3080

[vagrant cargo]

Also I ordered my monitor the 32 inch one and it got delayed delivery wise by a week and a half , im this close to shoving my head in a oven and screaming

[frank zealot]

what's your budget for a gpu

[vagrant cargo]

Everytime ive gone to go for a monitor this year either delayed, no reviews, no offical release dates given or the monitor was garbage

[candid tartan]

No more than 1000-1200

[frank zealot]

at that pricepoint, it's a 5080

[candid tartan]

I need it mainly for word

And some exel

[frank zealot]

sorry, you need a 5090 for excel

[vagrant cargo]

Get a 5080 or or buy a super cheat one that can still do 1440p at 4k using upscaling or lossless scaling software on steam

Then get a 5080 super

[candid tartan]

In all honesty I'm thinking of 9070

[frank zealot]

9070XT is pretty awesome for the price, but all in all: NVidia's better

[steel stream]

you have the money for a 5080, get a 5080

[candid tartan]

They are about 600 Euro, and I get to save

[steel stream]

at least get a 5070 Ti

[shell void]

5070Ti is the entry level to a good GPU

[vagrant cargo]

Amd will most likely release a card what beats 9070 in a few months im assuming the supers release in February as when palit released the card I have it was in February of this year and I swear to jeebuz it was only a few weeks ago but its so many months ago

[candid tartan]

I like Nvidia for their features, just not that they always skimp out on vram

[vagrant cargo]

Same hopefully the supers fix that

[steel stream]

you get 16gb which is the same as the 9070

[frank zealot]

nope, Don't expect a new AMD release to beat it for at least 1-1.5 years

[vagrant cargo]

Well the leaks show they most likely will

What are the 5080 cards set to jump to vram wise anyways?

[candid tartan]

Yeah, but for a 5070ti I need 200 more Euros as compared to a 9070

[frank zealot]

16 --> 24

[vagrant cargo]

Tbh I wish I waited for the super gpus to release instead of getting a 5080 near release

[wise bear]

my pmc daily respecs all skills into strength

[candid tartan]

And lets be honest, for excel, word and Counter strike, I can save if I do t ball on a 5080

[flint citrus]

good build? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nYDHC8

[candid tartan]

Trash

7800x3d with a 5060 ?

[wise bear]

who pairs a 7800x3d with a 5060 what

[vagrant cargo]

With the 4000 line I went from I think sbout a 3070 or one of its variants to the 4080 super and it felt so dam good

[frank zealot]

he has dreams of buying a 5090 used in the "future"

[wise bear]

yeah ok

[candid tartan]

What do you use it for ?

[merry stirrup]

yes (it is opposite day)

[frank zealot]

Hate to tell you this, nobody's gonna say it's a good build, because it's so absurdly lopsided

But I told you that earlier

[steel stream]

not really

equivalent of a ferrari body and then the engine from my neighbors john deere

[candid tartan]

I once comited such a crime, I built a ryzen 7 7800x3 with a rx7700xt. BUT I CAN explain

[vagrant cargo]

Well I went from 4080 super to 5080 I use my pc build for gaming and work stuff and just browsing the internet however my pc can handle it since I have 4 sticks of ram and 4tb ssd amongst a 1200 power supply, actually come to think of it main thing I might need to update in my pc is airflow to aio cooling and maybe a new cpu

Im currently using the i7-13700k

[candid tartan]

Bro only plays sports and casual games, so I though a beefy cpu will keep him for many years, as upgrading the gpu for someone who doesn't know PC parts is easier then cpu

[flint citrus]

is it because cpu is better then the gpu

[candid tartan]

Well, I use it for uhh, youtube. and Adobe reader

[candid tartan]

Brother, yes but also if you want to. Just buy it, your money your mistakes

[steel stream]

you also have a $100 cooler when you could get the same performance with a $30

[vagrant cargo]

Tbh when it comes to some types of pc stuff im alright parts not as much escpially ehen it comes to cou

[flint citrus]

the cpu come in the bundle which good deal

[candid tartan]

No one in their right mind would put a 7800x3d with a 5060

[frank zealot]

like beyond reasonably better

[vagrant cargo]

Also guys what cpu can I change my intellect i7-13700k to? I want it for gaming also has to have WiFi 7 , and good or audiophile level like built in sound stuff if not im just gonna use my audiophile dac and other stuff for my pc however they are somewhere in my room in a cupboard somewhere I have to dig through stuff to find them

[frank zealot]

that's CAD, so it's only 70ish

[flint citrus]

the build is the same price with the 7600x so i got bundle with better cpu same price

[steel stream]

ah

[vagrant cargo]

Wait will I be able to remove my cpu from my motherboard and replace with a new one or would I need a new motherboard ontop of cpu?

[candid tartan]

Honestly, I think it's just a kid, wanting a build. So honestly, if all you wanna do is roblox, msfs, I doubt he will want it all running 4k maxed out

So yeah, go on just buy it

[frank zealot]

typically you can move a CPU to a new board

[vagrant cargo]

Well im getting a new cpu so im more curious if I will need a new motherboard ontop of a new cpu, tbh most likely gonna buy one anyways

[frank zealot]

depends on what you have

[steel stream]

WiFi 7 is a motherboard feature not a CPu

[candid tartan]

I took a look at that build, it's just dumb @flint citrus

[steel stream]

you would have to buy either a Z890, and only certain AM5 boards have WiFi 7

[vagrant cargo]

How old years wise z790aorus elite ax?

[steel stream]

which cpu are you buying

[frank zealot]

Z790 is 13th/14th gen (and also 12th)

[vagrant cargo]

Depends which is intels current best one what plays nice with aio cooling snd 4 sticks of ram

[frank zealot]

that's a really dumb way to buy anything

[steel stream]

none of them play nice with 4 sticks of ram

[frank zealot]

D4 boards do lol

cackles

[candid tartan]

Can zI throw my dead gpu at someone I dont like ?

[vagrant cargo]

I actually got the 2 extra ram by mistake my ram delivery didnt arrive for 2 weeks so the company just sent me another when I said I hadn't recieved my ram yet so I got 4 of the same ram

[frank zealot]

what RAM

[final flint]

My 7900 xt has a hotspot of around 85 to 90 with core temp of 65 is the hotspot temp a issue

[vagrant cargo]

Sell it for parts

[frank zealot]

no it's not

[steel stream]

no that is fine

[frank zealot]

no it's fine

[vagrant cargo]

I cant recall the name its g skill ram i think

[final flint]

Ok thanks

[candid tartan]

But that isn't fun

[frank zealot]

that's not helpful. Ask when you have access to parts and can tell us what you have

[vagrant cargo]

I just realised I need a duster for my pc my current one isnt working and I need to give my pc a quick clean

[frank zealot]

you can't just ask vague hypotheticals and get useful answers, you have to ask specific questions to get good answers

[vagrant cargo]

Any you guys recommend

[candid tartan]

Was the switch worth it ?

So I can feel atleast some what better, I went from fractal Design to this NZXT H6

[vestal granite]

which ones the new one

the left one is cooler

but it's your PC

[pure garnet]

left one presumably

[candid tartan]

Left one is the new case

I must say though, Fractal Design Quality is better then NZXT

[vestal granite]

yes

nzxt more about the looks

[frank zealot]

bruh:
Dude's fish committed credit card fraud on stream
https://www.pcgamer.com/youtubers-pet-fish-commit-credit-card-fraud-on-stream/

[candid tartan]

Now I can continue crying that I am left without a GPU for weeks

[wise bear]

weird question but is vodka & v8 a thing

[wraith steeple]

Laine's work in FD's manuals are second to none

[frank zealot]

along with some other stuff, that's a bloody mary

[wise bear]

Oh I thought that was tequila & clamato

[frank zealot]

Ingredients
1 1/2 ounces vodka
3 ounces tomato juice, store-bought or homemade
1/2 ounce freshly squeezed lemon juice
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 dash hot sauce, or to taste
1 pinch celery salt
1 pinch freshly ground black pepper
1/4 teaspoon prepared horseradish, or to taste, optional
Lemon wedge, for garnish
Celery stalk, or pickle spear, for garnish

[wise bear]

wtf I could legit make a bloody mary rn

[frank zealot]

the ingredients aren't especially exotic

[wise bear]

No I just

The most fancy drink I've ever had was a mai thai

I have no idea when it comes to mixing drinks

[vagrant cargo]

The older case looks nicer it depends aswell which is better for you airflow or aio wise

[wise bear]

HOLY SHIT

[vagrant cargo]

https://amzn.eu/d/bpgafed

[wise bear]

i want 3.

[vagrant cargo]

This is my ram i have 2 pairs of this

[frank zealot]

You don't need 128gb RAM

Sell 64GB of it

[pure garnet]

4 sticks of ddr5 dual rank? good luck lol

[vagrant cargo]

Funny thing i didnt pay for 128gb ram I got it for free

Well I got the spare 2 for free

[frank zealot]

But, do you want your RAM to run as slow a molasses in february?

[vestal granite]

bloody mary

[grave lion]

I mean you can but not sure how much damage that'd do long term to the vehicle

[vestal granite]

its ethanol or something

[wraith steeple]

Memory control be like:

[pure garnet]

you’d probably going to be stuck at the default 3600 unless you mess with it or got insanely lucky with imc quality

[wise bear]

I feel like it would run normally if it was high enough proof

[grave lion]

ever clear 😂

[wise bear]

just, less hp

[vestal granite]

corn makes ethanol and I think vodka is corn too or something right

[frank zealot]

running 4 sticks, you'll be stuck running it SUPER slow

[grave lion]

[wise bear]

yes im now just learning this at 30 years of age

i thought whiskey was corn

[wraith steeple]

Mainstream DDR5 based boards should just have two dimms at this point
Edit: fuck off, autocorrect

[wise bear]

isnt vodka potatoes

[frank zealot]

some yes, it can be potatoes, grain, or other things.

Just a clear neutral spirit.

[brave panther]

bourbon is >50% corn

[odd sable]

4 can be fine
4 high density, more likely to be a problem

[grave lion]

Linus Moonshine Tips

[vestal granite]

while we've gots some alcohol people here I have a question

[frank zealot]

4 can be fine if someone's willing to spent hours tweaking settings

[brave panther]

vodka is just ethanol with as little flavour possible

[vestal granite]

I had a thing it was a mixed drink with like citrus and ginger and some kind of liquor idk what else, i think it was whiteish in color any idea what that's called

[odd sable]

or it can nearly just work too

[wise bear]

ephanawl

[odd sable]

i say nearly because i did have to change one setting for it to work

[frank zealot]

that's like 500 different drinks

[odd sable]

but it wasn't hours of tinkering

[vestal granite]

god damn it thats my problem

[wise bear]

ask ai

[wraith steeple]

I'm just glad that 2x64GB kits are now a thing

[frank zealot]

Citrus and Ginger are both super common drink ingredients

[odd sable]

yea, i just bought one of those

[wraith steeple]

The ones from crucial?

[vestal granite]

yeah that's the issue that I have trying to figure out what it was

[frank zealot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cocktails/comments/1dmvrmy/third_wave_swizzle/

[odd sable]

yea, i went with the 5600 ones because it was cheaper, and the perf difference wont be that massive for me

[wise bear]

a "third-wave swizzle" sounds like a swanky way of the germans are rising again

[grave lion]

[pure garnet]

by the time you need a lot of ram doesn’t the speed not really matter as much

[odd sable]

2 dimm is a better idea if you can do it, but 4 dimm doesn't immediately explode, at least not always

[odd sable]

having the RAM is generally more important than having it be fast, yes

[frank zealot]

4 doesn't explode, but it's unlikely to run faster than JEDEC without a lot of tweaking on most boards

[odd sable]

because not having it forces you to use something far far slower (swap)

[wise bear]

((pagefile))

[frank zealot]

(And 4 sticks JEDEC on many platforms is 3600MT/s)

[pure garnet]

michael tried to do 4 sticks on his 9800x3d and it wasn’t happy at all and he has a pretty good imc

[wraith steeple]

Yeh. I've thought of getting those myself at some point since honestly, the 5600 ones are perfectly fine as those extra MHz on others on the market aren't really doing anything

[pure garnet]

i haven’t tried 4 sticks but 96gb of ram is completely useless for me atm

kernel builds are the most demanding thing i’ve packaged and that only used like 20gb

[odd sable]

my 7950x ran 4x16@6400, so it can be possible ¯_(ツ)_/¯

no idea how that scales with denser DIMMs

i dont have 4x32 or 4x64 to try with, only 2x32 and 2x64

[frank zealot]

but was that XMP, or did you figure out the setting with trial and error

[odd sable]

EXPO, with only modified setting being FCLK

[pure garnet]

dual rank is harder on the imc

[frank zealot]

Gear 2 or 4?

[odd sable]

well, EXPO+mhz

2 iirc

[pure garnet]

so 4x2r is basically worse case scenario

[odd sable]

yes, im aware

[frank zealot]

here's AMD JEDEC specs:

[odd sable]

ive shown this before, this should answer most questions

[brave panther]

yikes 3600

[pure garnet]

what’s your fclk at

[odd sable]

2200

3200uclk

[pure garnet]

yeah you have a way better soc then i do

[odd sable]

oh, and thats a really early bios too

[pure garnet]

my chip can’t stabilize 6400 with 2 sticks at 2133fclk

i can run 2133 with 6000 though

[odd sable]

note the bios date, that was very shortly after zen4 launch

[brave panther]

i dont know why my laptop reports 2x dimms as quad channel

[frank zealot]

dual rank maybe?

[odd sable]

because DDR5 is "2 channel" per DIMM

[shell void]

dual rank gang

[odd sable]

FWIW, i ran this system at 6000 normally, rated for the DIMMs

[brave panther]

why doesent desktop report it like that then?

[odd sable]

that was mostly just me seeing what i could get to work, and it pulled off 6400

[odd sable]

no idea, but desktop does the same thing

DDR4 has 1x64bit channel per DIMM, DDR5 has 2x32bit (iirc its 1x64 and 2x32 at least)

[pure garnet]

no wall of 1s smh

[odd sable]

if it wasn't for that being my main system, id try pushing it again, but meh

[shell void]

cant run SD1 with dual rank twin

[pure garnet]

i know twin

[odd sable]

CBA, it runs 2x64@5600 now

[pure garnet]

i forgot i had my pc volume cranked last night and karhu errored at like 1am

worlds worst alarm clock

[shell void]

nightmare fuel

[brave panther]

aw yep

[pure garnet]

it echoed through my room

i’m just gonna give up on gear 2 it’s not worth it

6000/2133 is fine

[shell void]

this is true factual information

[odd sable]

wouldn't you want 6000:2000?

[shell void]

not worth going for peak gear 2 on a 4 dimmer imo

[odd sable]

for, 3:3:2 ratio

[pure garnet]

no you leave the latency island at that speed

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/s/oIzFx0GeNk

[pure garnet]

i think it’s my cpu more than the board honestly

since i needed to downgrade agesa + slam vddio for it to post reliably

bz and a lot of people on reddit didn’t need insane vddio

[odd sable]

latency is slightly better at 3000:3000:2000 than 3000:3000:2100?

[pure garnet]

i’m at 2133

[wraith steeple]

@odd sable oh shit! That Crucial Pro kit we were talking about earlier saw a hefty price increase

[odd sable]

it did?

[shell void]

the lion may just buy ecc next time and retire from memory tuning because he is bored of it

[odd sable]

huh, yea, $342, i just got it for $300

[pure garnet]

the problem with memory tuning is some component is always taking turns being the problem

[shell void]

well i already have a good 2x24 kit so not now, but perhaps with ddr6

[pure garnet]

and i don’t wanna buy more hardware

[odd sable]

oh, i was reading that wrong anyway

i was looking at 2000 vs 2033, not 2000 vs 2133

[shell void]

y u lookin at crucial pro? it's buns

[low sorrel]

I wanna go fry some vodka

[odd sable]

because its cheap, and if you just need RAM its fine

[pure garnet]

the tomahawk is at least nicer than the strix i replaced it with but otherwise im not buying an apex

[pure garnet]

iirc they’re talking 2x64 kits

[wise bear]

shush, child

[vestal granite]

freeze vodka, batter it, deep fry. vodka sticks

[shell void]

v-color sells 6400mt/s jedec udimms and ecc udimms in all sizes if you wanna be a naked jedec warrior

[odd sable]

and yea, this is for 2x64GB kits

[shell void]

i think they even have 2x64 6400cl52

[odd sable]

and what do those cost?

[shell void]

all hynix memory

[shell void]

a trillion dollars

[wraith steeple]

Ehhh that 800 extra megas isn't doing anything for what I do

[low sorrel]

Awww

[wise bear]

you're not old enough to alcohol

dont drink until you're legally allowed

[vestal granite]

in some parts of the US he is I think

[pure garnet]

everytime i’ve drank alcohol i’ve just found it to taste not great

[wise bear]

jerry is canadian

[vestal granite]

oh

[pure garnet]

i bought a 12 pack of busch apple and got through like a can and a half before giving it away

[vestal granite]

my condolences

[wise bear]

lil fuckin hoser

[pure garnet]

and i had some rum that was mid too

[shell void]

the holy grail for Arrow Lake workstations:

[vestal granite]

don't get apple flavored alcoholic anything ever

[shell void]

don't ask what they cost, it's a silly amount

[pure garnet]

can i put 4 of those in my master

or do i need w890

[shell void]

ecc only works on w880

[wise bear]

unless its smirnoff and you pair it with apple juice (trust)

[odd sable]

ill take two (in my ADL workstation)

[shell void]

idk if gigabyte will let you run them with ecc disabled on their z890 boards

[pure garnet]

the only ethanol i plan on purchasing in the near future is rubbing alcohol and gasoline so i’ll keep it in mind

[vestal granite]

you can mix apple in but if its apple flavored it's gonna be a stomach ache

[pure garnet]

i also hate coffee

[vestal granite]

I also hate you

[pure garnet]

even when drowned in milk i can still taste the evil

[pure garnet]

you suck!

[vestal granite]

well I don't hate coffee at least

[shell void]

id be interested in seeing if theyll pass stress tests without tinkering

[vestal granite]

people who hate coffee are the devil I hear

[pure garnet]

it’s not my fault it doesn’t taste great

[shell void]

theyre only 2R but ADL has the worst DDR5 memory controllers

[odd sable]

said machine is running 2x32@4400JEDEC, so, probably not

[shell void]

my 14900K box is also running 2x32 4400 because i dont care

i have it running as 8c8t downclocked too :p

[pure garnet]

i got 6400 stable on my 12900ks but anything higher wasn’t happening yet

i didn’t wanna get out the z790 or buy a 1dpc board

[shell void]

z790 apex encore just to barely run 7200 on a 12900ks

[pure garnet]

it would be fly

[low sorrel]

Coffee is ass

Tea is so much better

[pure garnet]

i liked my 12900ks but my 265k is just better in every way so i have no use for it

[odd sable]

get yo' bri'ish ass outta here

[shell void]

yeah that's a slaughter

12900K is a great CPU but Arrowlake walks it

[low sorrel]

You know what that's the 3rd time this week I've been called british

[pure garnet]

also they cost me roughly the same price

the 265k is a crazy value cpu rn

[odd sable]

well, who the fuck else likes tea?

[shell void]

did you get your 12900ks during that unusually low priced sale

[low sorrel]

The chinese

[pure garnet]

yeah

[shell void]

like $120 or something

[pure garnet]

no it was $240

[shell void]

o

[low sorrel]

The turke

[pure garnet]

i got it before the 13700k went off for rma

[low sorrel]

The Indians

The Japanese

[pure garnet]

i ended up just keeping all the extra stuff i bought because it was nicer and i wasn’t really thinking straight

[low sorrel]

The irish

[pure garnet]

so i bought a board + cpu + ram for +16gb and -2% loss in gaming performance

genius purchase 🔥

[low sorrel]

W

[wraith steeple]

Literally all of us folks who hail from the east

[odd sable]

microcenter bundle, or?

[pure garnet]

no just a fool on amazon

my 13700k died before the news broke about degradation

so i tried new ram then copium bought a new board before figuring out it was the cpu

then i just never returned the ram and board i didnt need when i got the new cpu

[odd sable]

ahh

[teal orbit]

you're supposed to get conditioned into liking the taste

[shell void]

stockholms beverage

[teal orbit]

I imagine its the same with non alcoholic beer

[gentle urchin]

nicer

[pure garnet]

suffering for the fun of it

[wraith steeple]

I'm very hard-line with how I like my food and drinks

[teal orbit]

No it removes the fun of it

That's the point

The fun of the not fun perhaps

[wise bear]

wtf vodka and v8 with a little tabasco is amazing

[shell void]

i turned the fans down to 450rpm in my 2nd pc because i realized that it's dumb to have them going at 1400rpm 24/7

[wise bear]

@frank zealot u da best

[frank zealot]

I pretend to be

[brave panther]

beer always tastes like shit, idk why people like it

[wise bear]

i put a lil dill in it and its like alcoholic tomato soup

[wraith steeple]

Yes!

[frank zealot]

that's a choice lol

[shell void]

this is one of the most sinful peripherals that ive seen

[teal orbit]

What the duck

[wise bear]

You expect any different from a woman who dips pizza in applesauce?

[frank zealot]

no, not really

[wise bear]

Exactly

[teal orbit]

Does taste obey the law of superposition

[brave panther]

only alcohol that tastes halfway deacent is apple cider or sweet aromatic wine

[gentle urchin]

Tsk, 10,2% beer ftw

[frank zealot]

I do cook pork loin in applesauce

[wise bear]

as you should

pork & apples go great together

[gentle urchin]

Dry Red Wine* Cabernet Sauvignon

[wraith steeple]

حرام

[frank zealot]

https://wccftech.com/msi-rtx-5090-melts-twice-user-reports-connector-melting-with-msis-yellow-tip-adapter/

[fair wraith]

Anyone know what I can do with this?

[vagrant cargo]

Do I need tk change my thermal paste on this?

[wise bear]

look the pizza+applesauce thing is just something you have to try for yourself