#tech-chat-2

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topaz veldt
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I told Guilty I wasn't doing this

pure garnet
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yeah but the heart wants an astral white

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and you did just sell that ram to cover it

topaz veldt
shell void
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ehhhhh

wraith steeple
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I see that the Heatkiller 5090 TUF is in the production phase. Oh man my beloved Heatkiller or DeltaMate. Decisions, Decisions

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
slim solstice
pure garnet
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you’d get a 285k that makes my 265k look good somehow

topaz veldt
shell void
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you so totally need a W890 PC snail, start stocking your piggy bank now

pure garnet
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i don’t think i was

topaz veldt
slim solstice
topaz veldt
wraith steeple
topaz veldt
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My issue is the TUF OC is the only one in stock and its $3k now

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I got my original TUF OC for like $2800, the non-OC is $1999

wraith steeple
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Later in Q4 2025 or Q1 2026 of I had to guess

topaz veldt
wraith steeple
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That's the thing about HK, as much as I love to shill for their products..... They are known for releasing newer blocks for cards that are halfway through them being current gen

topaz veldt
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Wow... and the 5090 Master ice price is... up

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it was like $2700 - 2800, now back to $2999

shell void
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$2000 cpu, $700-1000 board, $1000 ram

topaz veldt
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but prob eatx

wraith steeple
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Optimus is still radio silent. They showed off an Astral Prototype that threw quite a few folks off from an LTT video of all sources

topaz veldt
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I like EK (I know, I know)

shell void
topaz veldt
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but I don't like the EK Astral block

topaz veldt
shell void
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idk we shall see

topaz veldt
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If I buy a white 5090 Astral I need sell a 5090 Ice because it wouldn't have a PC to go into

shell void
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it would be cool if they try to be more aggressive with pricing

topaz veldt
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W890 would be a big commit

shell void
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maybe we'd see some normal sized boards if they went for more consumer adoption

topaz veldt
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Dozens of cores but at what cost, and we know single thread gonna be mid

shell void
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id like to see how the 1t would be

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it's redwood cove+ cores on intel 3 which are basically just raptorlake P cores ported to a better node and optimized

topaz veldt
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If the P cores are more like RPL than ARL I'd be interested

shell void
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they can do up to 48 cores per ccd, and they have SMT

topaz veldt
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is that threads?

shell void
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they went up to 128 cores but that's triple ccd

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they can do 48c96t in one ccd

topaz veldt
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ah

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how many channel memory?

merry stirrup
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why are we calling intel compute clusters ccds

shell void
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quad channel for W890 and eight channel for W890E

merry stirrup
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dont you dare diss intel that way

topaz veldt
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hmm

shell void
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idk if theyll enable MRDIMM support on the cheaper quad channel HEDT cpus

topaz veldt
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I feel like the (now) HEDT stuff is a bad buy for me

shell void
topaz veldt
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For the flip game I bet W890 will be hard to sell

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What if there's a high spec 285K sitting in an Amazon order though

shell void
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youll get a 5.7P 5.1E chip for sure

topaz veldt
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doubt

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then I am stuck with 2 lame 285Ks lol

cerulean cosmos
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Whatever you do never remove the toys from the server room

cerulean cosmos
shell void
topaz veldt
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im already concerned about the $13k I have tied up in GPUs

shell void
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well if the last two gens are anything to go by it's almost impossible to lose badly when reselling 90s

topaz veldt
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the prob is those wtf Asus $1999s

shell void
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even though 4090 blew 3090 away people still continued to pay stupid money for 3090

topaz veldt
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Like what if they all come to the table with $1999 NIB cards 6 months before 6000 series

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and I am stuck holding 4-5 5090s I paid $3k+ for

shell void
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ive thought about that too, but people were able to sell 4090s for $2200 well after the 5090 launched

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and newegg was offering $1600 for trade in xd

topaz veldt
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Yah but the 4090 TUFs never did like $1400

shell void
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werent they only like $1600

topaz veldt
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$1800

shell void
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i say only but that's half of what we paid for our 5090 master

topaz veldt
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I only lost like $100 on my TUF OC

shell void
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idk we'll see, hopefully you dont lose a bunch

topaz veldt
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Its a gamble

shell void
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if the stock situation is like the 50 series launch then there'll probably be a window where you can fleece somebody desperate

topaz veldt
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I just want to lose like $100-200 per lol

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OK this is nice

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Rather than go to 25 Gbps....

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I have 4 VLANs for iSCSI MPIO

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let's see what 4 x 10 Gbps does on the storage first, if it goes > 2.2 GB/s then we know 25 Gbps is worth it

shell void
topaz veldt
shell void
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oh you have dual wan

topaz veldt
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I am not interested in the LAN speed for WAN speed

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yeah dual wan here - my wife and I have separate ISP

shell void
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well yeah i know, i have 10gb with only 300 down on a good day xd

topaz veldt
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Yeah I have the all-flash array in a new Cisco C240 M5 (new to me) so I want to see if 25 Gbps works more better

shell void
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i assumed youd be running dual wan for failover, not segregating ms snail

topaz veldt
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so her subnet goes out the comcast gateway and mine goes out fios, if one goes down they route thru the same

shell void
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oh cool

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she just doesnt deserve modern upload speed i see

topaz veldt
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She really only just uses teams

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whereas I host shit and my server shit is on FIOS

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I'll generate kickstart images and shit and shoot them over to the DC, etc.

shell void
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πŸ₯€

topaz veldt
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But I'll need like 10 NICs and a switch and I am lazy

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I am doing 2.2 GB/s with 2-path 10 Gbps MPIO iSCSI

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so if I add 2 more links... maybe I don't really need 25 Gbps

shell void
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four 10gb links? we have 40gbase-t at home Clueless

topaz veldt
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4 x 10 Gbps MPIO is more better than a singel 40 Gbps

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due to queuing

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If 4 x 10 Gbps MPIO is > 2.2 GB/s benchmark, then I will consider ripping it out for 25 Gbps

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2 x 25 Gbps vs 4 x 10 Gbps

shell void
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eh your mpio setup seems to be working well, id take the lazy route if it was me

topaz veldt
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yah but i need 12 ports instead of 6

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so its just more shit

shell void
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keep your dual link setup, you dont need more than 17.6Gbps, that's just greedy

topaz veldt
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lol

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if the array doesn't do more with 4 links t hen there's no point

shell void
merry stirrup
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rgb network switch certainly required

shell void
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essential

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if it only adds cents to the cost then why not, it's cool

topaz veldt
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prob more than a used arista

merry stirrup
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real

shell void
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bigass switches like this scare me tho

topaz veldt
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y

merry stirrup
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if anything that should be piece of mind

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look at it bro

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if that doesnt look like reliable idk what does

whole coral
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Yeah that looks nice

merry stirrup
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big ol box with redudant psu

teal orbit
topaz veldt
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she'll be a screamer but i was able to turn the fans down

merry stirrup
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yeah with allat i can see

topaz veldt
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annoyingly the used ones with fans that are "back to front" (what I need) are more $

merry stirrup
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5 tiny 40mm screamers you cant change out at minimum

topaz veldt
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They're 40mms but like 4 fans deep too lol

merry stirrup
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well. probaly wont change out

whole coral
merry stirrup
whole coral
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I assume those are 100G ports

teal orbit
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Does arista have licensing drama like Brocade, HP, Dell, Cisco

topaz veldt
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there is no licensing on arista

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its why i use them

merry stirrup
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buy and use

teal orbit
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Maybe I need some arista switches

topaz veldt
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well.. there can be some but not for 99.9% of features

teal orbit
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do they get firmware updates too

topaz veldt
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you need support (or someone with an enterprise account)

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but also switch firmware is like.... never

bronze mango
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Licensing drama doesn't matter if you don't have a license bigbrain

granite dirge
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im not sure should i go original japanese dub or english dub for a 2nd paythrough of yakuza 0

topaz veldt
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alright now I just have to put another NIC in the flash box

wise bear
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She livesssss

torpid blaze
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Japanese dub and english sub frfr

shell void
frank zealot
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Other than the two temporary sata drives, this is immaculate cabling I just finished

brave panther
strange ginkgo
frank zealot
turbid locust
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I be poppin percs

frank zealot
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At most: The Samsung SATA may stay, since it has a clean install point. But I have zero need to leave those drives otherwise.

strange ginkgo
merry stirrup
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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EVERY day

pure garnet
turbid locust
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(I’ve played it twice since I got it)

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and now that gamepass $30 a month probably gonna cancel it unless something I wanna play comes up lol

steel stream
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I went to play PS5 today and couch gaming is great, but I immediately missed my C4 and 5070 Ti lol

frank zealot
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holy shit, I just kicked off a 14 hour print on my 3d printer.

It's using less than 17g of filament for the entire print.

3D Printers be weird, yo

novel storm
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is a Zotac GTX 1650 Ryzen 2700x 500 GB SSD With 32 GB RAM full pc, for $270 a good deal?

edgy laurel
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make it $250 and you've got a deal

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(i have no idea how much that old stuff should cost)

novel storm
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the case is quite ugly, but i could always just swap it out

frank cypress
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all ewaste tier nowadays

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literally nothing in that pc is worth savalging soooo

arctic bronze
edgy laurel
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2700x served me well

arctic bronze
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a full system for that low of a price is a good deal honestly

edgy laurel
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2017-2020

frank cypress
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as in past tense

edgy laurel
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I mean yeah if its just for gaming, a used PS5 will perform quite a bit better

frank cypress
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1650 super is also kinda eughhhhhg

wheat void
arctic bronze
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it can do way more than just game tho, its a pretty killer deal tbh

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its not gonna set any records or anything but its not a bad buy

frank cypress
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I dont think its a killer deal

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its mediocre at best

wheat void
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totally viable lab

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or home theatre

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workbench etc

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remote endpoint

fringe vigil
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wheat void
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it sounds way better over fm radio than hifi

fervent elm
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Crunchy early 2000s mp3 havent aged well

edgy laurel
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that song is.. meh

rich idol
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What on earth does guru3D recommended mean and is it something i should think about?

edgy laurel
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it means what it says. they tested it and recommend it

rich idol
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but what the heck is it?

edgy laurel
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um

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i don't know what you mean

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who is Guru3D?

rich idol
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yes

fringe vigil
edgy laurel
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one of hundreds of groups that test and review hardware

fringe vigil
rich idol
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ngl, with that logo i thought it was some software i should use

whole coral
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Lmao. So overkill

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
whole coral
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Coherent optics isn’t even used in access networks. Usually meant for long haul only

fervent elm
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One of those undersea cables?

shell void
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right now most ISPs are using one XGSPON (10Gbps) uplink to serve 32-128 houses

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i think Nokia has showed off 25g, 50g, and 100g pon in demos

whole coral
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100G PON is Coherent I believe

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Distance up to 80 km with the right split ratio

whole coral
edgy laurel
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Coherent optics, a technology that has been widely used in long-haul and metropolitan networks, has now been fine-tuned for access networks like CPON.

topaz veldt
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god damnit - I forgot going to a cisco server I'd need so many cisco coded optics

whole coral
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Nice

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Absolutely see rural areas benefitting from this

fringe vigil
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sybau

fervent elm
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<@&750150305383186585> scam

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Elong muskrat crypto scams deserve to get snitched on

fringe vigil
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hes done it in gaming too lol

pure garnet
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damn discord pre filters them now too

fringe vigil
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they never reply in dms these scammer guys idk why

vestal elbow
# edgy laurel https://youtu.be/ANbyXGc0z4U Better. Especially when the band starts up.

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pure garnet
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prolly a bot

whole coral
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I actually am unsure if ONU’s/ONT’s will need to be changed for CPON. I assume they will need to be changed

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ONT’s from GPON to 50G PON would be IM-DD

leaden dawn
whole coral
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Intensity Modulation Direct Detection

fringe vigil
edgy laurel
vestal elbow
# edgy laurel wow, forgot they did this

The official music video for "Afterlife" from the Netflix series Devil May Cry

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fringe vigil
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rako just joined in my conversation

brittle trellis
topaz veldt
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Looking at this Ghost of Yotei game... the visuals are.. .meh

frank zealot
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Fbm never disappoints

vagrant cargo
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ok guys tech wise whats your big dream for me mine is van life but with a full pc set up

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and hopefully a shower in the van which is possibly but you need a massive one the issue is with set ups like that is the generators

steel stream
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I need to find a better way to get game captures, sony makes these look like shit

edgy laurel
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i guess i don't know what they're supposed to look like

steel stream
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or I just need a PS5 pro I guess

edgy laurel
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definitely the solution

steel stream
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Time to drop my GPU money on a console!

shell void
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how many of us will buy a PS6 GTA 6 Special Edition console after GTA 6's PC release gets delayed until late 2028?

steel stream
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i will play it on my launch model PS5

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Jorj and Mac will probably do that though

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to put like Jorj would "Need to see them strip club shawtys"

shell void
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Macintosh is gonna play it on the XSX he bought from a single mother on facebook

steel stream
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true

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jorj will do whatever it takes for GTA6

pure garnet
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i will be base model ps5 as well

steel stream
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I used my launch model PS4 till I got my launch model PS5, I will do the same with my PS5

turbid locust
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@merry stirrup found the EVC

edgy laurel
granite dirge
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aparently the postal service has the methods to travel packages at aproximately 3 times the speed of sound ... or their sysytem is drunk,.
BROCKTON MA DISTRIBUTION CENTER
October 2, 2025, 8:02 pm
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility
JACKSONVILLE FL DISTRIBUTION CENTER
October 2, 2025, 7:27 pm
Departed USPS Regional Facility
PHILADELPHIA PA DISTRIBUTION CENTER
October 2, 2025, 4:57 am

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traveling to brockton from jacksonville , is aprox, 1150miles, at 35 mins is aprox, 2300mph, which is just under, 3 times the speed of sound...

brittle trellis
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Have you accounted for timezones?

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iirc the listed time is the time where it's scanned

hoary hatch
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I choose to believe the USPS operates rockets

turbid locust
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Those states are in the same timezone

brittle trellis
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welp

indigo walrus
brittle trellis
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FedEx has the option to choose what time it's displayed in

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Something probably caused the Jacksonville tracking update to delay somehow

hoary hatch
brittle trellis
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Someone forgot to press a button somewhere

hoary hatch
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Instead FedEx defaults to "our truck took a week long detour in Idaho"

granite dirge
indigo walrus
granite dirge
brittle trellis
granite dirge
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i mean i guess per this tracking number from the usps, my skateboard is the fastest skateboard in history,

indigo walrus
granite dirge
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kirashi... its not overnight shipping

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it started... on 9/30 in MN,

indigo walrus
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Remove the word "overnight" and the same logic applies. Shipping companies use whatever their computers spit out when it comes to routing.

granite dirge
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but what does not apply is traveling near 3 times the speed of sound ... which is what has me laughing lol

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as well as this is going by the united states postal service, not fedex or ups,

fervent scaffold
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EVGA GeForce GTX 1080ti FTW3

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That is all

merry stirrup
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i get paids like 2-4 days from now so

brisk jolt
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mf still glazing a basically dead card

fervent scaffold
merry stirrup
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faster than light?

fervent scaffold
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For the loss

brisk jolt
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fat tucklerling

merry stirrup
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creative

fervent scaffold
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Very

merry stirrup
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something something evga legendary something something doesnt matter they made shitty cards something something

brisk jolt
fervent scaffold
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Buddy keeps egging me to play this Delta Force game

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All I read about it is chinese hacks

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Still downloading it tho

fervent scaffold
merry stirrup
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augh didnt embed i got baited

fervent scaffold
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I hope I dont get in trouble for that video somehow

brisk jolt
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the asus astral is the FTL3

edgy laurel
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i hope you do

brisk jolt
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the ventus is the FTL9

fervent scaffold
brisk jolt
fervent scaffold
lone scarab
fervent scaffold
lone scarab
proven reef
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grandpa inheritance litt

fervent scaffold
proven reef
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OH

lone scarab
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ok but why is instagram becoming snapchat

proven reef
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WRONG ASS TIMING

proven reef
lone scarab
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mind your language or i curse you with

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𓆸 𓆹 𓆼 π“‡Š π“‡š 𓇕 𓋇 𓁙 ֍ 𓁋 𓆰 𓆱 𓇬 𓇣 𓇑𓆙𓆗𓅃𓁉

fervent scaffold
frank cypress
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it's alive again

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still missing something PepeWhy

lone scarab
proven reef
frank cypress
fervent scaffold
frank cypress
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turing forever

proven reef
fervent scaffold
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I thought they stopped at 5900x3d

wheat void
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gamers

frank cypress
proven reef
proven reef
fervent scaffold
lone scarab
fervent scaffold
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5800x3d

frank cypress
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5950x came out before that...

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hell, we have had so many products after the fact too

fervent scaffold
frank cypress
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5700x3d, 5600x3d, 5500x3d, 5800xt, 5900xt

wheat void
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they dont game so good so dw

frank cypress
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like, AMD keeps putting out more am4 garbo

wheat void
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for the money anyway

frank cypress
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blame lisa su

frank cypress
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also, free cpu is a free cpu

wheat void
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nah hear me out

frank cypress
wheat void
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shader recompilation? real time strategy?

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npc wars? absolute meta

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slay queen

frank cypress
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focusing on my personal growth >>>

wheat void
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crush them sandwich chiplets between your 32 threads

fervent scaffold
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I prefer my dying cpu

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And I only prefer it because I got a crazy good deal on my mobo

frank cypress
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oh bruh

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my keyboard is dying

fervent scaffold
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I5 14600k speedrun

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Low end death

proven reef
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Honestly single monitor is so clean

proven reef
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I'm planning to bulid one soon cuz grandpa inheritance kicked in

indigo walrus
# lone scarab ok but why is instagram becoming snapchat

Um, because after VINE died, all the other Social Media platforms realized that they could have capitalized on extremely short form video sharing much more than VINE ever got the chance to, and thus... everyone and their dog must offer short form dopamine producing addictive video publishing.

fervent scaffold
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Send PC noodles

vestal granite
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i will die on the hill of musicly being horrible i never understood the appeal at all

fervent scaffold
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I wanna see your PC with its side panel off 😩

proven reef
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Musicly was very toxic and predatory and it was horrible all around

vestal granite
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tiktok the dances are fine like i get it people are dancing for fun but lip syncing was stupid

lone scarab
proven reef
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Musicly rebranded and cleaned up

indigo walrus
# lone scarab i am talking about the map thing

Ah, that was not clear in your original message. Context is very important. Anywho, no idea. I find it strange that all these apps want to compete with... IDK - real GPS / mapping services? It's weird.

lone scarab
proven reef
lone scarab
lone scarab
proven reef
lone scarab
proven reef
lone scarab
proven reef
proven reef
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If you never want to be dead

lone scarab
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inspirational

proven reef
lone scarab
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i laugh hard

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u are funi

merry stirrup
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i got anthrax on

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not the chemical but the equally bad band

proven reef
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So that's why you drink and gamble so you never have to text her when your in shambles

proven reef
lone scarab
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who is she

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i want him πŸ˜›

proven reef
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Get an rtx 5080 unless her name is sadie

lone scarab
proven reef
lone scarab
proven reef
lone scarab
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ok bro

cerulean cosmos
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Bogos binted?

indigo walrus
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I was going to print photos? When? What photos? If I said so, I legit don't remember.

cerulean cosmos
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Bogos binted

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πŸ‘½

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Heh

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If no one gets it I will be sad

fervent scaffold
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I love this unit 😩

lone scarab
green marsh
pallid marsh
cobalt stone
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9060xt or 5060 ti both 16gb for a 7500f for 1080p?

karmic folio
compact tree
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i currently got a gtx 1660 and i am looking to upgrade to a gpu with pcie gen4 (egpu) and looking at the prices i can get a 3060 12gb for 190-200€, 3060 ti 8gb for 200€, 6700xt 12gb for 210€, 3070 8gb for 240€, 6800 16gb for 260€, 6800 for 270€, 4060 8gb for 300€, 5060 for 325€, 9060xt 16gb for 360€, 6800xt 16gb for 350€ which one is the best looking at absolute performance, which one is the best value. I don't use raytracing and the gpu is connected via a usb4 pcie gen4x4 link effectively limited to around 38,5 Gbit/s

hidden birch
compact tree
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to use the full bandwith i need a gpu with pcie gen4 and i am using this chance to upgrade. i will most likely only use the gpu for the next 3-4 years

tawdry hound
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you can even do 1440p at like 60 fps

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but yeah, get the 5060 ti one

severe vapor
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guys
are onboard audio likely to fail and sometime deliever sound from one ear?
i got an issue and i can't even trigger it to adress if it's coming from my headset or my motherboard

cobalt stone
tawdry hound
cobalt stone
shell void
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some goodies in the EA today

stable turret
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what's the optimal number of case fans that i should i have for my PC? the more the better?

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i heard someone said that more fans would result in lower RPM which leads to lower noise level?

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or is it a diminishing return or turning point when it comes to the number of case fans?

devout ridge
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more the better

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basically just install as many as your case supports

stable turret
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i see, i will try it then.

edgy laurel
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The case chosen will have fan locations, simply aim to fill them

stable turret
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yeh i have some empty fan slots

edgy laurel
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there is no optimal number of fans

stable turret
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just wondering if i should fill them all up with 120mm or 140mm fans

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it currently offers 4 additional 120mm fan slot + 1 additional 140mm fan slot

edgy laurel
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You tell us. Is everything stayin cool, quiet and performing like it should with what you have? No? Then maybe think about what the problem is. If its simply addin more fans, then there you go.

stable turret
#

2 on the side, 2 on the top and one in the front

edgy laurel
#

What you don't do is just plug in fans and let them do what they want on default curves

stable turret
edgy laurel
#

Where you put them depends on the style of case

edgy laurel
#

almost never is, unless you live in a sauna and have a well sealed case

devout ridge
#

that is probably a cooler mounting issue

stable turret
#

thermal paste is already applied properly and its not a mounting error. i think its just simply the IHS heat transfer limitation

edgy laurel
#

fix your cooler mounting

devout ridge
#

if the cooler ain't warm, but your CPU is, your cooler ain't mounted correctly

stable turret
#

i will not try to fix the mouting or bother repasting it

stable turret
#

since i know as a matter of fact i did them correctly.

devout ridge
#

then enjoy your spicy CPU temps

edgy laurel
#

No offense but if you're in here asking about number of case fans, i'm not sure you're an expert on this lol

stable turret
#

prob just due to poor CPU hardware design which results in the high heat spot

devout ridge
#

That is an issue for some chips, but it ain't enough of an issue to push you to 105c

edgy laurel
#

ya, 105c screams mounting issue or if an AIO, a dead pump

#

or I guess a not properly configured/plugged in pump

stable turret
#

i mean i can improve the cooling with a 360mm AIO, however just dont bother to upgrade anymore

#

i will try adding more case fans to see if it improves by a few degrees

devout ridge
#

what kind of cooler do you have now

edgy laurel
#

yeah case fans is never going to be the solution to this

stable turret
#

deepcool assassin III, 20W thermal paste, mounted properly, 5800x, 1.37V, Prime95

#

at a package power of 180W

#

i guess thats just the cooling limit from an aircooling system, for a single die processor

#

nothing much to improve here unless upgrading to a 360mm AIO

edgy laurel
#

5800x (owned one since new) is a spicy chip to cool but 105c is well past normal for even stock

devout ridge
#

yeah a dual tower cooler should not have your CPU running at 105C

stable turret
#

4.45Ghz full core, 1.37V, 180W+ in power

#

single die, nothing much to improve here with aircooling.

edgy laurel
#

180W seems a bit high.. are you sure?

stable turret
#

100%

edgy laurel
#

then again, prime95..

devout ridge
#

stock settings max drawn power is 142w

stable turret
#

nobody said its stock setting

devout ridge
#

run it at stock and see what temp you're at

stable turret
#

under 80 probably

edgy laurel
#

had to go dig into hwbot and pull up my old 5800x

devout ridge
#

so you're running at less than stock boost speed with your "overclock"?

stable turret
edgy laurel
#

granted, thats on a 360 but 146W peak in Cinebench

stable turret
#

or OCCT AVX512?

edgy laurel
#

no need, that system is 5 years old and lives with Eco mode on now lol

#

its retired πŸ˜†

stable turret
#

then its very unlikely you can push to 180w i think

edgy laurel
#

the point is im' not sure why you'd want to

stable turret
#

maximum full core performance

devout ridge
#

to get back to the original point, more case fans ain't gonna reduce your temps any noticeable amount

edgy laurel
#

are you breaking a 15834 in Cinebench?

devout ridge
#

once airflow gets to a point, you're limited by the cooler itself

edgy laurel
#

at 105c,you're throttling

stable turret
#

and more importantly, a good bin

edgy laurel
#

no it doesn't.. oh boy

stable turret
edgy laurel
#

holy shit ok

topaz veldt
#

lol what crispy mcfish bullshit did I walk into

stable turret
#

i gtg, not here to teach somebody how to properly overclock i guess

edgy laurel
#

HA

stable turret
#

with PBO you have hardcoded thermal limit, and after reaching the set temp you will get thermal throttled.

edgy laurel
#

kid's 5800x overheating, asking if he needs more case fans and now he's an overclocking expert

topaz veldt
#

liquid hydrogen bro

edgy laurel
#

I showed him a CO tuned 5800x and hes now saying he can't beat my amateur score without XOC 🀣

stable turret
#

i bypassed PBO completely, and overclocked with a diffferent method. it doesn't thermal throttle at all even reaching 115C. it just shuts the PC off after 116C

topaz veldt
#

LOL

devout ridge
#

what the fuck

edgy laurel
#

Guys clueless

stable turret
#

no throttle at all + a larger thermal headroom

topaz veldt
#

Yes, 115C, no thermal throttle at all

#

sometimes I run my CPU at 230C

stable turret
#

yeh i could reach 115C with no prob a few days back on 1.43V

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however it would shut off my PC soon after

devout ridge
#

i personally run my CPU at 250C so i can get a good sear on my filet mignon

stable turret
#

i love overclocking on my ASUS

devout ridge
#

silicon degradation? never heard of it

topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

someone has tried it

#

if it’s a cold piece of ahi tuna the cooling might not be horrible for 2-3 seconds

topaz veldt
#

Welp, happy Friday everyone - crazy thermal claims wasn't on my bingo card but hey

devout ridge
#

sub ambient cooling cheat code

edgy laurel
#

but hey, maybe he'll solve it with some case fans

stable turret
#

does it look thermal throttle to you?

#

check out the power as well

#

too many amateurs here talking about overclocking just after watching a few tech tips

#

hahahaha.

stable turret
edgy laurel
#

better add some case fans!

topaz veldt
#

Amateurs but you're playing with a nearly stock all core 5800X that runs too hot ggs bro

stable turret
#

you guys all look funny i guess after i posted the image

#

gotta go

topaz veldt
stable turret
#

still not throtteld at 105C, 180W constant

edgy laurel
#

not a single benchmark in sight

stable turret
#

its not gonna throttle at all even above 110C, with my setup

topaz veldt
#

Bro acts like we don't know what manual OC is

stable turret
#

xd, just accept the truth of what i said i guess

edgy laurel
#

run Cinebench

stable turret
#

didnt claim anything but "it wont throttle with my setup even after reaching above 100C or 110C"

devout ridge
stable turret
#

dont change my statement or add anything else

stable turret
#

i gotta go and there is no point adding more evidence to support my argument

devout ridge
#

bye!

#

β€˜twas quite amusing to experience this

stable turret
#

my suggestion, act a bit more mature, and if you really wanna learn overclocking, go to an actual overclocking community instead of flexing your hardware spec here

#

it really offers no point

topaz veldt
stable turret
#

neither constructive to my original question nor helpful overall to everyone else here

edgy laurel
#

why is 4.45Ghz all core even impressive

topaz veldt
#

its not

#

its like 100 MHz

#

@stable turret please, teach us amateurs about OC

edgy laurel
#

that was such a bizarre interaction

#

started out as a "hey my cpu is overheating and should I add case fans" and morphed into "i'm an overclocking expert I don't need any help from YOU"

stable turret
stable turret
#

nothing to impress here, just to prove my innocence after the ridicules from you guys

#

the only ones acting immature here is not me, just saying.

edgy laurel
frank zealot
#

this existing is absolutely wild

frank zealot
stable turret
pure garnet
#

throwing 200w at a 5800x to gain 100mhz is quite the flex here

topaz veldt
stable turret
#

at least lots better than you now

edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

also why are you running an avx512 test on a cpu that can’t do avx512

#

professional overclocker

pure garnet
#

that didn’t answer my question at all

topaz veldt
stable turret
plucky niche
#

dawg why did I had a random panic attack ;-;

pure garnet
stable turret
plucky niche
topaz veldt
# stable turret i can read

When I go into the office I make sure to call everyone who has worked on things for 20 years amateurs because I found out about voltage control 20 days ago

stable turret
edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

this is the 2nd time this month someone who’s got like 100mhz out of a cpu acting like a god

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

it booted so it’s stable fr

pure garnet
stable turret
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

please

topaz veldt
#

thats a lot of typing for no screen shots

stable turret
#

and the gap between us is only gonna grow larger everyday since then

stable turret
#

though its still possible that you can get as good as where im currently standing now

#

but not with your current attitude i would say

edgy laurel
#

the hubris is astounding

pure garnet
#

i wish i had the ego this guy does

topaz veldt
#

Bros only posts on Overclocking is about ETH mining

#

He's not on hwbot, OCN, etc.

edgy laurel
#

so unbelievably proud of an accomplishment without a single ounce of proof

topaz veldt
#

Its a troll

edgy laurel
#

i don't think so, I think he's actually that clueless. learned everything he thinks he's learned in a bubble

#

and no one has ever told him he's wrong

topaz veldt
#

then why not share a single thing outside of OCCT lol

pure garnet
#

a misconfigured occt test too

topaz veldt
#

cringe af

pure garnet
#

2.5 minutes elapsed

topaz veldt
#

rofl

#

He's talking to his girlfriend right now

gentle urchin
topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

there's no way anyone is actually that arrogant

topaz veldt
#

If you are going to call everyone amateurs because you run a 4.4 GHz all core 5800X at least submit a benchmark some place

#

It is - its a troll

devout ridge
#

you see, the key to big OCs is the case fans

topaz veldt
#

I agree

#

most hardcore OC'ers use cases, and thus case fans

gentle urchin
pure garnet
#

i’d like to thank my 5 pack of p12 pros for getting me the world record

topaz veldt
#

I am going to go run a 14 sec 1/4 mile and then tell everyone to respect me

pure garnet
#

just extrapolate from an 1/8th and run a world record mile

devout ridge
#

world record marathon*

#

i wonder if he's busy juicing his chip to 200w for a -10% uplift in clock speed

fiery token
#

Hello!

I have a HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF equipped with i5-4570 CPU, 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz, and 500 GB HDD. I am wondering what are the possible upgrade paths that I could do with the current specs that I have? I am hoping I can get some recommendations. (Note: I don't have enough budget for a latest generation build so this is my current plan for my system)

pure garnet
#

i would get an ssd and maybe 16gb of ram if it’s cheap but otherwise just save for new hardware

#

a 4790 isn’t a meaningful upgrade for its cost and you’re stuck with old stuff either way

frank zealot
#

But honestly a better bet at this point would be finding a box on FB Marketplace or similar, and spending the 200-300 on a ryzen 3000 or intel 10th gen box.

#

that would be a huge upgrade

turbid locust
frank zealot
# fiery token Ok thanks

but if it were me, I'd save the upgrade money and start looking for a deal on a newer used box on a marketplace

#

going from 4th gen to either 10th/11th gen or Ryzen 3000 would be a monstrously huge upgrade

brisk jolt
frank zealot
turbid locust
#

Back when hardware actually had OC headroom was pretty cool

#

What was that generation of Intel where you could basically turn an i5 into an i7 by blocking some contact pads on the cpu? KEKW

brisk jolt
#

i heard proper OC gave like 30% performance or something which is crazy compared to today’s measly like 10% xd

turbid locust
#

You can barely get 5% out of some CPUs nowadays

shell void
pure garnet
#

with some amd chips you used to be able to just unlock cores they fused off

brisk jolt
shell void
#

5960x only ran at 3-3.2GHz out of box, and you could run it up to 4.4-4.8GHz depending on cooling and lottery

#

add on memory and you could easily get more than 50% in games

turbid locust
#

Ram OC is the only form of OC worth putting effort into for daily use nowadays

arctic bronze
turbid locust
arctic bronze
turbid locust
#

You don’t see as much average fps gaines on X3D chips but you still see massive 1% low gains

arctic bronze
#

oh neat

brisk jolt
arctic bronze
turbid locust
#

I think it’s probably from where vcache was such an advantage that full ram OC’d vanilla chips weren’t keeping up with stock X3D, that people decided it didn’t matter for X3D cause it would always be better

#

But that’s just speculation

brisk jolt
#

i think i have a friend who bought china components, 7800x3d with 5600MTs and i think C46 which is diabolically slow

devout ridge
#

5600 CL46 is criminal

turbid locust
#

CL matters less than people think ngl

devout ridge
#

matters for 1% lows

turbid locust
#

CL timing is basically just a binning indicator

brisk jolt
#

but its 5600 at fucking CL46 lmfao

turbid locust
stable turret
#

I use gentoo and Linux from scratch btw

pure garnet
#

β€œnoticeably on par”

turbid locust
shell void
#

jedec timings, but with just trefi changed to 65535 performed the same as 6000cl30 xmp in my testing xd

turbid locust
arctic bronze
brisk jolt
#

i mean he still gets 1000 fps in valorant so he doesnt care, i dont really give a fuck

pure garnet
#

i run just expo on my sisters 7600x but i’ve never used expo or xmp on my am5 system

turbid locust
#

laughs in global 138fps cap

pure garnet
#

i’ve always had tuned memory

arctic bronze
#

:O

shell void
#

i’m interested in the 8000cl56 and 8800cl62 jedec cudimms coming in the next couple of years

pure garnet
#

i need a 5090 for monster hunter wilds

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

i’m having to play at like dlss balanced mix of high/med for 90fps in combat

pure garnet
arctic bronze
pure garnet
#

have you seen how it runs

arctic bronze
pure garnet
#

poorly

arctic bronze
#

never heard of it tbh

brisk jolt
stable turret
#

What point do I need to prove

turbid locust
#

lol

stable turret
#

Just matter of facts btw

turbid locust
#

nah btw

stable turret
#

Plain cold hard truth

turbid locust
#

fr fr no cap btw

pure garnet
#

fax no printer

brisk jolt
#

I have no idea what that guy said, but im pretty sure its half-assed shittalk

brisk jolt
#

i rmb one time he said something stupid as fuck I was like …. and just closed discord….

arctic bronze
#

rage bait them

#

then do a 180

brisk jolt
#

I mean, they really belong in TC1

arctic bronze
#

we are classy here in tc2

brisk jolt
#

TC1 peeps ask the most diabolical questions that make me go β€œwhat the fuck”

stable turret
#

Regular discord user grouping people by channels

arctic bronze
#

unlike the tc1 barbarians

brisk jolt
#

his responses are…. questionable

#

he’s kinda extra tbh

arctic bronze
turbid locust
stable turret
brisk jolt
#

i promise you, you got nothing compared to the mentally disabled menace called β€œElian”

pure garnet
arctic bronze
#

I just search "green role" and they are all so funny

arctic bronze
pure garnet
#

elian blocked like half the channel

arctic bronze
#

y

pure garnet
#

and announced it every time he did

arctic bronze
#

y^2

pure garnet
#

i don’t think a reasonable explanation exists

#

he blocked guilty of all people

arctic bronze
#

lol

#

really?

#

crazy

brisk jolt
#

he basically blocked everyone in tc2 with a functional brain

topaz veldt
#

oh nice, I bring good news

turbid locust
#

yo

topaz veldt
#

Its good news for me

#

not for anyone else

#

I was going to move my server shit to 25 Gbps interfaces and switch

arctic bronze
#

yeh

topaz veldt
#

Instead - I added two more 10 Gbps paths to my ESXi hosts and flash array

#

so now I have 4 x 10 Gbps MPIO on all devices

arctic bronze
#

lol nice

topaz veldt
#

This is from a VM running

arctic bronze
#

fancy

turbid locust
#

swag

topaz veldt
#

I never really considered adding more paths

arctic bronze
turbid locust
#

Huh

arctic bronze
turbid locust
#

This is so sad. Alexa, play β€œpretty boy swag” by Soulja Boy Tell Em’

arctic bronze
arctic bronze
#

its through a 10gig connection

turbid locust
#

MSI where is my Mpower

arctic bronze
arctic bronze
topaz veldt
arctic bronze
#

its a harddrive array with SSD cashing

topaz veldt
#

You would need to present block storage out of it

arctic bronze
#

yeah

#

also im getting destroyed rn

topaz veldt
#

ew

arctic bronze
topaz veldt
#

I think I'll take almost 4 GB/s NAS/SAN

arctic bronze
#

ok it finished

#

I got massacred

topaz veldt
#

Yes but I doubt your NAS was like $6000

#

so maybe you win

arctic bronze
#

yeah not even close XD

#

I paid like 1k for it all

topaz veldt
#

ya

arctic bronze
#

and my Hard drives are mixed capacity

#

bc they was just random drives layin around

#

1x 4tb
2x 2tb
1x 1tb

#

then a 250gig gen 3 nvme and a 16gig intel optane (bc it was funny)

topaz veldt
#

the SSD caching doesn't really work, obviously

arctic bronze
#

I also have high compression on

topaz veldt
#

compression almost useless on things like h264/h265

#

modern compression algos, like lz4, on modern CPUs, are almost zero impact though

arctic bronze
topaz veldt
arctic bronze
#

Oh i see, discord didnt update for that last comment

topaz veldt
#

the compression happens at the block level, but an h264 file on disk is already compressed

arctic bronze
#

Yeah, i also have a 5700g with PBO enabled

topaz veldt
#

word

#

yeah OP nas CPU

#

I am actually thinking of buying smaller CPUs for my TrueNAS box

arctic bronze
hoary hatch
#

If I was buying a CPU for my nas I'd probably get 12400

topaz veldt
#

I have intel Gold 6142 x 2 in this

arctic bronze
#

I went amd bc i already had a spare x570 laying around

topaz veldt
#

its way too many cores and 2.6 GHz base freq - good for a hypervisor but storage node eh

arctic bronze
topaz veldt
#

I want to go with 6144's I think

hoary hatch
topaz veldt
#

8 cores but 3.6 GHz base

hoary hatch
#

5700x
MPG X570 gaming edge wifi
A750

#

A 4tb nvme cache drive that never gets used to its full potential so we should really swap it with a 1-2tb from a desktop

arctic bronze
#

Cables are a mess, but thats bc the case has no cable management πŸ˜”

But this is my Nas/homelab combo

green marsh
hoary hatch
#

I don't think I have any current config pics of mine

#

Like I got one with the old gpu

topaz veldt
#

Would anyone be interested in a Unifi 24 port Pro Max 2.5 Gbps switch

shell void
#

free?

topaz veldt
#

no

hoary hatch
#

I'll pay $1

topaz veldt
#

but discounted - I need more ports

hoary hatch
#

Okay you drive a hard bargain 🐌

$5. Final offer

topaz veldt
#

I am thinking of buying the 48 port version

#

I could buy a 2nd 24 port I suppose

green marsh
hoary hatch
topaz veldt
hoary hatch
#

Snail you should send all of us one of those for Christmas

#

Santa snail

topaz veldt
#

lol

#

Shit actually

#

I should get a Pro XG 24

#

8x 2.5 Gbps, 16x 10 Gbase-T, 2x 25G SFP28

hoary hatch
#

I still want a unifi router eventually

green marsh
hoary hatch
#

But my PFSense box is still kicking

shell void
hoary hatch
topaz veldt
green marsh
shell void
#

bare minimum

#

you need 32 10gb poe ports

arctic bronze
hoary hatch
#

DDR4? Why would you want ewaste

topaz veldt
#

I literally have nothing 10gbaseT tho

green marsh
shell void
#

you will soon

#

new boards are coming with RTL8127

topaz veldt
#

Is my NIC on my Apex 2.5 only or can it do 5 Gbps

green marsh
shell void
#

5 iirc

topaz veldt
#

ah it is

#

so if I went with a Pro XG jawn I'd get 5 Gbps

shell void
#

2025-26+ boards have realtek 10gb and i imagine that’ll be standard for a while

brave panther
#

5g base t is a wierd ass standard

shell void
#

yeah i feel like nobody used it :p

topaz veldt
#

wtf is Pro HD

#

This would work

#

I could move 10 devices off of the Pro Max whatever

#

get 5/10 + POE

#

uplink to Arista core @ 10 Gbps

#

Yeah, this makes the most sense

shell void
topaz veldt
#

OK Pro HD is 2.5 and Pro XG is 10

shell void
#

pro, pro hd, pro max, pro xgs, pro poe, pro xg poe

topaz veldt
#

hence the X

shell void
#

who can keep track of this

topaz veldt
#

The XG APs have 10 Gbps links while Pro have 2.5

shell void
#

10Gb uplink for my ubiquiti AP that tops out at like 1.6Gbps anyway

topaz veldt
#

right

#

its why I stuck 2.5

green marsh
# arctic bronze Thats a nice build

it's just power hungry unfortunately. I need to decide if i want to restructure away from 2950x/X399/128GB RAM; on one side it will be hard to sell locally (and impossible to ship elsewhere), on other side i will cut a lot of idle power usage if i switch from it. Also 2950x is kinda weak by now

topaz veldt
#

but if I got the XG Pro 10 port I could at least handle 10 Gbps APs and 5 Gbps desktops

#

This all comes up because I want another 1 Gbps POE port because I am doing a raspi print server in another part of the house

shell void
#

i wonder if we’ll see 640MHz wifi channels with a wifi 7 revision

topaz veldt
#

I want to feel my wifi

shell void
#

wifi 7e or something

brisk jolt
#

iirc wifi8 will just be wifi7 with better range

shell void
#

that’s already a part of wifi 7 if you mean AFC

topaz veldt
#

Dude this is insane

shell void
#

insane cheap or insane overpriced

topaz veldt
#

cheap for someone to start

shell void
topaz veldt
#

well starting 10 gbps

shell void
#

who has 7 SFP NICs in PCs around the house

topaz veldt
#

for labbers i mean

#

not like... my first house switch

shell void
#

yeah it is cheap for an aggregation switch for someone that has a bunch of other switches already

#

but it’s kinda useless to someone as a first switch

#

i think it’s an arby’s day for sure

#

i didn’t know that DACs can be this long

#

i thought they were only used as little patch cables

green marsh
wise bear
#

you know you have rain when you suddenly no longer get push notifications

merry stirrup
#

what

#

oh

#

its early give me a minute to warm up

wise bear
#

lmao

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

gotta b uy another floppa domain

topaz veldt
#

y

merry stirrup
#

the funsies

topaz veldt
#

i h ad a durian base domain for a while

merry stirrup
#

i dont even remember my og domain lmaoo

#

it was something off cf

brave panther
brisk jolt
brave panther
#

Not dac

topaz veldt
brave panther
topaz veldt
#

Also not sure you're getting a Cisco 10 Gbps switch for $249

#

That isn't like 10+ years old

brave panther
#

Merakis are cheap af but they require yearly licensing

topaz veldt
#

Also not $250

#

8 ports of 10 Gbps SFP+ for $250 new is insane

brave panther
#

Yea not new

wise bear
#

wow guys im so popular danica patrick added me on discord

#

do you think im gonna get free godaddy credits

merry stirrup
#

i hope so

rich idol
#

Should it be fine to pair a 1080p and 1440p monitor together or will there be some messed up UI scale mumbo jumbo between them?

merry stirrup
#

yes its fine no mumbo jumbo

#

windows isnt that stupid but it also has no idea how to use redstone

rich idol
#

Neither do I

merry stirrup
#

same bro

#

shits too fuckin hard

rich idol
#

I dont really know if I want a 1440p monitor so my friend recommended just get one of each, compare them and then return the one I dont like

brave panther
rich idol
#

Too big

merry stirrup
#

NOT true

#

i was like you then i got a 27 inch 1440p and man

rich idol
#

I can't fit 2 27 inch screens on my desk

brave panther
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I use 32 inch 4k one at work and even that isn't too big

brisk jolt
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anything is possible if you have the balls to

brave panther
rich idol
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I found two 25 inch displays, one is 1080 and the other is 1440

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Same manufacturer

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Their specs are so close the only difference is the resolution and the 1080p one has a USB hub

brave panther
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How big is your desk

rich idol
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I dont know exactly and I'm not home rn so I can't measure

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Its the same length and width as the ikea Alex desk if I recall correctly

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132x58 cm

storm finch
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Windows terminal experience is pretty fucking shit

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this is like.. every other day.

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and it takes 1 sec to load the profiles for some reason.

merry stirrup
rich idol
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Lord flopp

green marsh
merry stirrup
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and excute the script like a person who uses the windows powershell

wise bear
merry stirrup
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.\script.ps1

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cd oh-my-posh

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just because its not a 1:1 linux clone doesnt mean its shit

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however its pretty shit yeah

wise bear
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its not bad

merry stirrup
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its fine i mean you just have cmd and powershell

wise bear
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& wsl

storm finch
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id use wsl but afaik IO to the windows drive is pretty shit

wise bear
edgy laurel