tech-chat-2

[frank cypress]

I found out its pcie 3.0 x 1

[rich idol]

[merry stirrup]

pain

[steel stream]

hello

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

[devout ridge]

my new server is on the way

and a steal too, 107usd for all that is wild

[topaz veldt]

Nice! I have an R630 I am throwing out

[devout ridge]

if the shipping wasn't so high, i'd cover shipping and a pack of beer for it

[topaz veldt]

Yeah that's the prob

[devout ridge]

yeah shipping anything that big is guaranteed to be pricy

[topaz veldt]

$100 minimum

[devout ridge]

mhm, which is about the price you can find some R630s for

I'll be using that server to host some MC servers for some friends, and potentially a small SSD NAS

[topaz veldt]

I just got done loading up my new all flash truenas

cisco c240 M5 w/ 24 2.5" bays

16x1.92TB and 8x 3.84TB

[steel stream]

gah damn

[devout ridge]

my next big project will be a gpu server for some more protein folding power

let’s hope i don’t blow my breaker tho…

120v15a doesn’t go very far when you have a bunch of servers running full tilt

i’m already at 500w constant load with no gpus

[topaz veldt]

yeah for GPU you'll want more

[devout ridge]

i think the outlet right outside the room my rack is in is a different breaker

so i may get another UPS and split the load between the two breakers

[wraith steeple]

[devout ridge]

or i see if i can find an electrician willing to install a 240v30a in there

without ripping out walls that is

that’s a later me issue

i was looking at A4000s cause it seems to be the most power i can get in a single slot form factor without breaking the bank

about 800usd per, so not horrible

[topaz veldt]

what server would it go in

[devout ridge]

most likely an R730xd as well

has like 5 full height slots and supports 2x1000w PSUs

[steel stream]

4000 ada was going for that a while back, but it seems it went back up

[topaz veldt]

check out the manual - the Dells require a certain power supply to enable the power ports

[devout ridge]

Will do

when in doubt rtfm

it’ll also be a while till i have the funds to go about purchasing it, so the market may change by then

[topaz veldt]

If you can, get an R750

[devout ridge]

hopefully nvidia releases some new datacenter cards so the older datacenters finally sell off their old cards

[topaz veldt]

PCIe 4.0

[devout ridge]

that’s like 3-4k on the low end

[topaz veldt]

yeah just much more GPU friendly

[devout ridge]

a bit of a jump from the 750usd for the r730

i’ll have to see what i can swing

why exactly is it more gpu friendly?

[topaz veldt]

PCIE 4.0 and the internals support 12vhpwr and EPS

[devout ridge]

i’m not entirely sure protein rendering requires much pcie bandwidth, so i don’t think i’d see a lot of benefit from pcie 4.0, and none of the cards i’m looking at need 12vhpwr

definitely some nice to haves, but isn’t really worth the money for me

[topaz veldt]

word just future proofing

I don't know how the R730s handle high watt cards (or not at all)

[devout ridge]

Definitely something i need to check before i buy anything for it

[topaz veldt]

They're different than desktops - they will ID the card and its not known to the BIOS it'll do weird shit

[devout ridge]

since i’m already getting an r730, i could always get 1 a4000 and see how it plays in the r730

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[steel stream]

@shell void Kef LSX II LT are $600 at costco, worth it?

[topaz veldt]

sometimes when they see PCIe devices they don't know/like they turn the fans to max - its always cute

[devout ridge]

i don’t mind max fans, it’s in a separate room in the far corner of the house

[topaz veldt]

you will mind max fans on an R730

[devout ridge]

my r630 is sitting at max fan rpm
rn without issue

[topaz veldt]

I don't think they're max if you aren't annoyed

check idrac it'll show speed

[devout ridge]

they’re whatever it defaulted to

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats not max fans

[shell void]

ehhh dont u already have the fives bossman?

[topaz veldt]

max fans I mean like 15,000 RPM x 10

[devout ridge]

speaking of, i need to get an idrac license

[steel stream]

yah

[devout ridge]

yeah it might not be max then

[topaz veldt]

def not

[devout ridge]

i’m scared to experience max then

[shell void]

i would just rock with those if you’re happy with em

[topaz veldt]

right - no its legit wtf

[steel stream]

aight sweet, appreciate the input

[devout ridge]

i think there’s some cheap idrac licenses on ebay with thousands of good reviews

i’ll prolly get one of those

[topaz veldt]

yeah they're hacks but whatever

[devout ridge]

if it works it works

[topaz veldt]

yujp

you can also google things on the seas

[devout ridge]

i’d rather spend the like 30usd and have the peace of mind of thousands of positive reviews on a reputable site

[topaz veldt]

well all it is a keygen based on service tag

theres no like.... thing you're buying, they're running a keygen and selling you it

[devout ridge]

i’ll look into the seas then

[fringe vigil]

Hi

[topaz veldt]

I used to have an official dell tool when I managed IT at a place with a zillion Dells because we'd have mainboards swapped and the idrac license would poof

[devout ridge]

speaking of, i need to make sure i pull the tag off the mobo and not the little info pull out thing

[topaz veldt]

ya

I have another tool some place for changing the mobo svc tag

[devout ridge]

let’s hope i have enough paste in my noctua tube for two more CPUs

how many 2.5in sata3 ssds do you think it would take to saturate a 10g link?

if you had to ballpark

[topaz veldt]

depends on config and workload

I j ust did it without issue

[wise bear]

I feel like you could saturate a 10g link with like, 3 in raid0

[topaz veldt]

depends

if its large sequential blocks sure

[devout ridge]

if ever it was lots of data on the link, it would be

[topaz veldt]

if its 4k blocks you'll need many streams

I am thinking its time to move this to 25 Gbps

given it pinned 10 gbps

[devout ridge]

i found a 25g switch for cheap on ebay, and some cheap 25g nics

so i’m tempted to upgrade to 25g within my rack

mostly for fun

NO! my server is coming through fedex…

i swear it said UPS…

i hate fedex with a burning passion

[wise bear]

All of my ebike stuff has come through fedex in several packages, and I can always hear when they/ups/usps stop at my house

I'm in good w/ my delivery people, nothing bad could ever happen

[topaz veldt]

I have a camera at the street

[devout ridge]

fedex has pummeled my last couple large box purchases

they somehow never trip my doorbell camera though

delivery ninjas i guess

[wise bear]

usps does that, they got smart and just started sliding the package like 5' across the porch to my door. Never have they thrown anything, though

Don't blame them for doing it, saves them from climbing a handful of stairs

[topaz veldt]

UPS drives down my long ass driveway and does a like 30 point turn

[devout ridge]

i think fedex hates climbing up my long ass driveway that is sat on a fairly steep hill and takes it out on my packages

[topaz veldt]

Fedex guy backs all the way down

[wise bear]

midnight bike ride tonight lets goooo

[thick frost]

Like every other modern mouse right

The only mouse I have to use left handed

[cloud vigil]

looking at my assortment of SSDs, most of them can read at ~500MB/s and write at ~200MB/s... so reasonably three-ish

[rich idol]

I'm still having trouble picking a motherboard, candidates are ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI, ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming WIFI, ASUS ROG STRIX B850-F GAMING WIFI and Asus ROG STRIX B850-G GAMING WIFI, I'm leaning most towards the first one since it's the cheapest and i like the amount of sata ports available, at this point i'm open to having one of them be picked for me or other options that aren't on my list

[edgy laurel]

Not doing it. If the first one will do what you want, thats perfectly fine.

Given all we know over the past few days, its not going to make a single difference which one you pick

[rich idol]

how so?

[edgy laurel]

you've given no indication that you require anything beyond the basics

[cloud vigil]

realistically, there just isn't much practical difference between motherboards besides the chipset and maybe the size or power delivery

[edgy laurel]

those are all ATX, have the same chipset (really), so all you're left with is less-important "features" and price. power delivery is irrelevant as all of those are more than enough for anything that fits in that socket

[wraith steeple]

FedEx gives me massive anxiety

[slim pebble]

Two schools of thought on motherboards: buy all the cool shit like on-board 5/10G NIC, etc. Then buy it all again next gen motherboard. OR buy a cheap ass motherboard, and buy a 10GBE card, an aqua controller, USB card, etc and take it with you next purchase.

[wraith steeple]

If only TG would allow me to use DHL for the DeltaMate, I would choose it in a heartbeat

Even if it costs an extra premium

[frank zealot]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/pick-up-a-ryzen-9-9950x3d-for-less-than-a-9800x3d-in-this-early-prime-day-deal-bundle-from-msi-tomahawk-motherboard-deal-is-cheaper-with-amds-flagship-than-with-its-top-gaming-cpu

[rich idol]

Originally i had picked the ASUS TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS WIFI, i was told to avoid the A620 chipset and pick B650 or B850 instead, i ended up picking a PCIe 5 gpu, so i started looking at PCIe 5 motherboards, i was also told that ROG was generally better than TUF so i started lookingat ROG motherboards, i would like a motherboard where all the SATA and M.2 ports could be used simultaneously if I decide to expand my storage further down the line, but from what i could tell none of these motherboards support that so i guess that part doesn't matter

[frank zealot]

800$ for a 9950x3d + bitchin mobo

[wise bear]

just because you have a pcie gen 5 card does not mean you need to specifically get a gen5 capable board.

[frank zealot]

Not for gen 5, but because a620 is trash

[wise bear]

^

[rich idol]

yeah that's what i was told, this was before i picked a gen5 card, i started looking at gen5 motherboards on my own cause i just assumed it would be more ideal with a gen5 gpu

[edgy laurel]

ROG/TUF thing, silly for your application. Meaningless comparison, TUF's are more than fine for x50 boards.
A620 thing, good. No one should be buying a 9800x3D and putting it in an A620 board with no PBO.
Storage, well thats as simple as looking at the spec sheets

Gen5 GPU, even if the board has a Gen4 slot it won't make a difference

a few percentage points for a 5090, anything less is nothing

[frank zealot]

At this point in time gen5 offers effectively zero benefits to a normal consumer

[rich idol]

I've been looking at the specs page, but i'm not certain what to look for cause i'm never certain about anything i'm unfamiliar with, i get to the section that says "storage" and then it says someting like "Total supports 4 x M.2 slots* and 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports" usually with a big asterix and then under that it says something about processors and then specs that are completely greek to me

[frank zealot]

So what you get on a ryzen 9000 cpu:

X16 gpu
X4 nvme
(Maybe) second x4 nvme
X4 lanes to chipset

The chipset can go to multiple nvme and pcie slots

[edgy laurel]

Ryzen 9000 chip, so you look at the section that says Ryzen 9000 & 7000. example.

in the above example, and I just pulled one of the listed boards for this, 2x slots connected to the CPU, 2x slots connected to the chipset

so thats your 4x M.2

Ryzen 8000 are lame APU's and can be ignored. 7000/9000 are the full fat desktop chips

of which a 9800x3D is

only 2x sata ports, nice. I want NO sata ports!

I have flippin 8

[rich idol]

What is wrong with sata?

[edgy laurel]

nobody wants to deal with wires

and M.2 SSD's aren't any more expensive than old sata

[rich idol]

so... cable management is the issue?

[edgy laurel]

its not an issue, per say, but why bother with it if there is no benefit

if you need a bunch of spinning HDD's, you build a NAS.

i don't want that crap in my desktop PC

[frank zealot]

It's a 25+ year old spec

[edgy laurel]

(I actually still have 1 SATA SSD in my system... it won't die so I keep using it)

[frank zealot]

The only real use for sata today is a home nas

Or legacy drives you already have

Anyone buying sata today for a primary drive will be mocked mercilessly

[edgy laurel]

the last time I looked at good SATA SSD pricing it was awful

[rich idol]

i have handful of HDDs lying around, though i was thinking of getting like an external HDD dock for those

[edgy laurel]

just becuase you have a pile of HDD's, do you need to use them?

[rich idol]

they have data on them i'd like to retrieve

[edgy laurel]

thats fine, there are cheap docks for that

[rich idol]

that is assuming bitrot hasn't gotten to them already

[edgy laurel]

if you need to plug them in periodically to get things off them

[frank zealot]

Or olug them in and extract the data

How old are they

[rich idol]

around 10 years

probably a little less

[frank zealot]

Been unplugged for how long?

[rich idol]

2017 if i recall

[frank zealot]

Uhhhh they're probably not going to recover easy after 8 years

[rich idol]

ah well

[edgy laurel]

these kinds things are all over amazon https://a.co/d/4f688IF

for cheap

[rich idol]

they're available from the same retailer i'm bying the pc parts for as well

[topaz veldt]

Except when next boards have... 1 PCIe slot

[wise bear]

which is where we're annoyingly trending

[topaz veldt]

yup

or you have a 4 slot GPU and can't even see your PCIe slots

[edgy laurel]

i have 2, my second is not even close to be accessible

[topaz veldt]

yah

[slim pebble]

Don’t look at me, I just buy the top end motherboards 😂

[topaz veldt]

Bro doesn't even have an Apex!

😛 jk

[cerulean cosmos]

how do i do a cold pull on a 3d printer?

i forgor

[topaz veldt]

a what

[cerulean cosmos]

a cold pull

https://all3dp.com/2/3d-printer-clogged-nozzle-how-to-perform-a-cold-atomic-pull

[rich idol]

is it better to spread thermal paste manually before installing the heatsink or let the pressure of the heatsink spread it?

[cerulean cosmos]

you shouldnt use that much but the heatsink will spread it

[rich idol]

gotcha

[cerulean cosmos]

@edgy laurel Here’s how to perform a cold pull:

Remove any filament that’s fed into the extruder. If your printer has a Bowden extruder, remove the PTFE tube from the printhead.
Heat up the hot end to the printing temperature of your chosen cold pull filament.
Feed the cold pull filament through the top of the printhead and into the hot end. Allow some of it to start extruding out of the nozzle.
Cool the hot end while applying constant pressure on the filament strand. Keep pushing the filament gently until it no longer extrudes through the nozzle and you can’t push any more of it through. This ensures the tip of the strand molds to the shape of the nozzle’s interior while cooling.
Allow the hot end to cool to about 90 °C, then pull the filament firmly up and out of the printhead. If your printer has a direct extruder, you may have to loosen the tension on the filament.
Once you’ve pulled the filament out, inspect the tip. If it’s pretty nasty looking and covered with residue, you’ll want to repeat the previous steps until the filament comes out clean.

[edgy laurel]

why

am I being tagged in this lmao

i don't even own a 3d printer

[topaz veldt]

I dunno I have never had to do this - I print a ton

[edgy laurel]

1320 put up the awd/rwd video just now

don't think cleets will be up till tomorrow

it happened this afternoon

he put up the practice from yesterday

[topaz veldt]

just watched

going to finish it in bed

[slim pebble]

My repaired X870E Hero is shipping back now. I’m trying to find the motivation to swap it back in. X670e just “works”.

Plus I get an extra CPU lane drive, so there’s that.

[slim pebble]

What does the newer X870E even have that’s better?

[wise bear]

Hey google..

[dapper junco]

um.

[wise bear]

whart

[slim pebble]

The other board is the X670E hero, same dual promontory.

[dapper junco]

Mandated wifi 7 and usb 4 port apparently
https://www.techspot.com/guides/2901-amd-ryzen-x870-b850-b840-x670-b650-a620-motherboards/

[slim pebble]

And 5GBe, I think that’s it

[wise bear]

870 gets wifi7

[dapper junco]

But they are not required to support usb4

[slim pebble]

Does anyone here actually use USB 4?

[rugged mica]

Hell no

[pure garnet]

no i disabled mine for another nvme

[edgy laurel]

Have had it for 3 years, never used it. Well I used the port to run a display once…

[vale cosmos]

I don't think I own any USB4 devices, closest is my TB4 ports on my laptop, which I haven't used any TB devices either lol

[edgy laurel]

I include TB as the same thing

[slim pebble]

Sadly ASUS doesn’t give you the choice to disable it. If you want a fourth NVME, either run an X670e or bifurcate your GPU lanes.

[rugged mica]

like a project display or a monitor?

[edgy laurel]

Since it is

[pure garnet]

i think msi is the only one that lets you honestly

[rugged mica]

ive seen some people nowadays are able to use usb to power a whole ass monitor now somehow

[edgy laurel]

Briefly ran a secondary display off the IGPU through one of my USB4 ports

[vale cosmos]

USBC PD does a max of 240w? iirc

[pure garnet]

i was looking at x670e hero’s when my board was broken but it decided randomly to behave again so i stopped looking

[topaz veldt]

nitro path

[rugged mica]

zamn

[edgy laurel]

Yo, that compressed air Firebird we were just talking about is at this race I forgot

[slim pebble]

I think only the Tomahawktuah and the MEG. The Carbon doesn’t.

[pure garnet]

odd but not surprising from microstar international

[vale cosmos]

😭 the what

[dapper junco]

Yea, bunch of new laptop uses USB C PD for adapter connectors because of that

[slim pebble]

DDR5 6000 CL26 96GB runs on everything though.

[edgy laurel]

Did he stutter?

[slim pebble]

The Tomahawk, that’s Michael’s name for it.

[vale cosmos]

way better than barrel plugs

[topaz veldt]

oh nice

[rugged mica]

theres a ddr5 now? goddamn 😭

[topaz veldt]

yes but it could be 8000 CL32

[pure garnet]

ddr5 is like half a decade old

[slim pebble]

I wish, dual rank doesn’t do that and I need the capacity

[edgy laurel]

That’s been the norm for a number of years now

[vale cosmos]

💀 do you not follow news

or like current tech?!

[rugged mica]

if i cant afford it

why shud i care

[edgy laurel]

I don’t know I’m enthusiastic about lots of things I can’t afford🤣

[vale cosmos]

i dont have ddr5 and i still know it is a thing 😭

most my computers are DDR3 lol

[slim pebble]

I’ve had Linux kill processes to keep from crashing with 64GB. I need a little more. I definitely can’t run on 48

[rugged mica]

my mains have drr2 and drr3/4 respectively

[vale cosmos]

have you looked at zram?

[rugged mica]

64 gigabytes of ram is absolutely catastrophic

[edgy laurel]

Nothing with DDR2 can possibly offer acceptable performance today

[rugged mica]

HAH

[slim pebble]

That’s with zram unfortunately 😂

[topaz veldt]

People have the 64GB kits running 8000

[vale cosmos]

lol damn

[rugged mica]

have you seen windows 7 and vs2008

windows 7 forever

until somebody makes a new os (wink)

[slim pebble]

Link? I didn’t say I wouldn’t try, just that dual rank doesn’t OC well

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-6344033611487756753

[topaz veldt]

Check threads on OCN

[vale cosmos]

7 was great, but should not be used today 😭

[topaz veldt]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/user-review-the-new-g-skill-ultra-low-latency-2x32gb-ddr5-6000cl26-in-test.1815103/

[rugged mica]

why not

[vale cosmos]

security?! you really shouldn't use it unless its on a purely local connection

[rugged mica]

eh thats sorta true but all i really use on there is google, the internet archive, and chatgpt

most hackers have likely moved to attack windows 10

[slim pebble]

I’ll check it out, I’m betting it works with 1DPC boards like yours but not mine lol

[topaz veldt]

I ran it without issue on X870E Hero also, its the point of Nitro Path

[cerulean cosmos]

It helps clear nozzle clogs and change colors on non multicolor printers

I just had a really good idea pre-packaged petg with nylon cores specifically for cold pulls

Probably a multi-million dollar idea

[wise bear]

nylon takes vastly different temps than petg so.. no?

[slim pebble]

Nice! Which kit?!

[topaz veldt]

2x48GB

[pure garnet]

bro what

[rugged mica]

Hm?

[pure garnet]

you think it’s a good idea to use an unsupported operating system publicly facing on the internet because it’s old enough to not get hacked?

[topaz veldt]

lol

[cerulean cosmos]

That's what I'm saying is the nylon would be able to grip onto the more melted petg and be able to pull it and nylon should be able to withstand the heat right?

[rugged mica]

Nothing can be immune to hacking, but hackers definitely will stop giving a shit over time

[cerulean cosmos]

I would say pretty much exactly the opposite

[pure garnet]

this is one of the takes of all time

you should put an xp system on the network without av

[cerulean cosmos]

Hacking interest will and is going up because there's more vulnerable

^deserves to be on starboard

[slim pebble]

Yeah you run XP on the internet and it gets hit by a blaster bot and compromised in two minutes 😂

[vale cosmos]

my uni which has labs full of centOS machines

[cerulean cosmos]

Imagine this you just came back to your print finishing and you realize that a singular dog hair has landed and shifted a part of the print up and now it's uneven

[cerulean cosmos]

"DEAR GOD..."

[rugged mica]

Yeah yeah, but i'm guessing it would go down specifically for hacking random individuals given theres not a lot of people still on win7

[cerulean cosmos]

Maybe 10 years from now

And you'd be surprised father's work just upgraded from Windows XP

Using physical media like floppy drives discs and tape drives

That's why I have the quote unquote e-waste that I have

Windows 11 is constantly being patched with better security updates but also less programs will be supporting Windows 10 anyway you might as well just go to Windows 11 and get yourself some antivirus and full computer security

"disable your administrator" 🤣

But then again nothing is superior to physical access "if a hacker has physical access to your computer it's not yours anymore" - Chris Bowden

[vale cosmos]

very true

[cerulean cosmos]

Totally don't look up USB rubber ducky

Totally not

[vale cosmos]

this is why i have auto login on my desktop. if someone goes far enough to break in and turn on my pc they can have access to my desktop i reckon

[pure garnet]

mine does as well but that’s still somewhat supported i think

[vale cosmos]

CentOS stream is a thing. centOS 7 and 8 went EOL a few years ago

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-crashout-skeleton-crashout-seizing-shaking-gif-5518380335001291096

[slim pebble]

LOL! Alright that was funny. But no I meant this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(computer_worm)

[gentle urchin]

This is peak hours

[arctic bronze]

its a dead as a

[strange ginkgo]

i respect that decision

[rugged mica]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[strange ginkgo]

well i was usin 8.1 until end 2023 and installed 11 on my new pc

in the end steam support is what breaks an OS

[green marsh]

and browsers

[strange ginkgo]

steam dropped support because chromium dropped support. however the browser still worked and i could also just use firefox. but steam just wont allow the client to start

[green marsh]

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support
FIrefox 115 was the last version, ESR updates ended in August 2025

[strange ginkgo]

but it still works. you shouldnt do online banking but you can use it

[gentle urchin]

Last 4 hours is peak hours

[shell void]

@hoary hatch i looked around, and i didn’t see you at fab 52

52 cores was confirmed earlier, and now the Cougar Cove and Arctic Wolf codenames have been confirmed

Jaykihn my goat doesn’t miss

[green marsh]

so next up is the rumor of murdering of p-cores and going on 100 e-cores ? 😄

[devout ridge]

Intel releases a 192c chip, but it's all E-cores

[neat root]

How is it defined as an E-Core with no other refference within the chip

[devout ridge]

they have different core architecture for Ecore vs Pcore

[neat root]

i see

[shell void]

this is the first time that i’ve been added to a groupchat by a scammer

it’s an 18 person group xd

[topaz veldt]

Lol get involved

[shell void]

i’ll send adeline your number bro

you can get involved

[wraith steeple]

I've had that happen a couple times

[livid flame]

Do you think e-cores could ever actually replace p-cores for mainstream consumer work loads and gaming? Ie. Just changing the architecture

[shell void]

yes

[livid flame]

I think a better question is maybe, is it a hyper threading replacement.

Or a good replacement.

[wise bear]

Gooood morning

[torpid blaze]

Bad evening

Nah im jk good morning

Just at work i cant leave yet cause its raining

[shell void]

it can be both

multithreading increases latency and adds security vulnerabilities that cost money to patch

[wise bear]

Have we done hybrid archs yet? like, p cores are x86 & e cores are arm?

[shell void]

and if they can buff Ecores to be able to run all relevant instruction sets then they could just stop using big cores

a single core type with no multithreading and a lot of cache would be good for consistency

[livid flame]

That sounds like a complicated disaster but I want to see it

[wise bear]

right

[shell void]

pantherlake and novalake support avx10 and avx512 despite being hybrid big little so that’s a step towards this goal

[bronze mango]

That would be pretty terrible

[wise bear]

nuh uh

[bronze mango]

You'd need a layer to translate instructions for every single instruction

[livid flame]

I only wonder as Intel seem to be making a big gamble on their e cores and not using hyper threading. To someone not as well versed, I see the RAM speed making a huge difference so I understand the latency issue. Although I feel unless they can match the amount of ecores with hyper threading it will always fall short

[bronze mango]

And the output of one would need every output to be translated

[wise bear]

microsoft is already working on this with windows on arm

[bronze mango]

Youd end up losing the benefit of either architecture

[shell void]

it’s impossible to beat the performance per area of Ecores by using multithreading on big cores

[livid flame]

That’s why I said unless they can match it.

[wise bear]

sidenote but BASED I GOT THE UPDOOT

[livid flame]

Having say 64 ecores compared to 64 threads sounds like a huge challenge. Not just fitting on die but on thermals and package power.

[bronze mango]

I don't think you get the difference. That's just an os designed to use their instructions. You'd need to then translate every x86 instruction, which would take more instructions than it's worth for every instruction, killing efficiency

Or vice versa

[wise bear]

Yeah, and microsoft is already working on a translation layer for x86 apps on ARM windows

[bronze mango]

Translating them isn't hard, it's just incredibly inefficient

[livid flame]

I know 32 is pretty much top end for threads but 64 won’t be far round the corner. Even then 32 ecores and 16 pcores - say to match AM5 high end. Thats a heck of a lot of cores on one chip

[shell void]

intel has already done more than that

xeon 6 can do up to 48c96t per chiplet

[bronze mango]

You want your code to just be talking in the language of the processor

[shell void]

48 big cores

[livid flame]

Nice. Is the die huge though?

[topaz veldt]

don't be rude

[wraith steeple]

[bronze mango]

You don't want every instruction to be translated

[shell void]

amd just does low core count because they’re cheap fucks

[edgy laurel]

yes, thats the reason

[bronze mango]

At most, you want it translated once

[topaz veldt]

based on how they have had to invent fewer core SKUs I also wonder about yields

[shell void]

that is the exact reason but worded with flagrant language yes

[livid flame]

Cause I couldn’t imagine 48 cores crammed into the space of an AM5 size chip going well for thermals at all

[shell void]

it’s more cost effective to do a bunch of tiny chiplets

[bronze mango]

But for this you'd need to actively have a translation layer for every possible instruction, for every core to core instruction, and every output from the one not native to the os

[topaz veldt]

You just have to use CPU micro juice

[shell void]

the same reason they’ve used the same serdes packaging since zen 2, an amd employee literally referred to it as a “low cost interface” xdd

i use facetious verbiage but it’s reality

[livid flame]

I just see the cost and chip size of Intel CPUs going so high compared to a multithreaded CPU

[shell void]

amd could easily give us a single 24c chiplet instead but it wouldn’t be as profitable

[shell void]

where do you buy your micro juice from?

[bronze mango]

Itd just hurt yields

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/it-aint-my-fault-accident-whoops-my-bad-oh-no-gif-14388691

[bronze mango]

They'd still almost certainly be able to profit

[livid flame]

Probably Micro Juice Center

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaCrQL_8eMY

Jorj's girl

[shell void]

yeah but mama lisa needs 7x profit margin 9800x3ds crammed into containers to please shareholders

[shell void]

[livid flame]

Considering Intel wants more than 7x. Why not

[shell void]

they don’t

[livid flame]

Especially how bankrupt Intel is

[shell void]

265K costs more to produce than 9950X3D and it’s sold for as little as $210 recently

i’m sure they’d love 7x though you’re right

[livid flame]

That’s only because no one bought it

[bronze mango]

I'm sure their profit margin is more than that

[livid flame]

It retailed at more or less the same price originally

[primal wasp]

Worth it?

[shell void]

both companies get annoying once they have the privilege of being greedy and lazy

[wise bear]

stop getting fishtank cases just get a normal black box 😭

[edgy laurel]

How would we know

[shell void]

intel spamming 4 cores was annoying and amd spamming 8 cores is annoying

[edgy laurel]

8, 12 and 16 (which is all that matters to the vast majority of people)

[topaz veldt]

speaking of which

[primal wasp]

Because this is the smart people are and I like the glass style honestly

[topaz veldt]

I am debating on getting new CPUs for this C240 M5

[wise bear]

what is the "smart people"

[shell void]

ah yes just like when intel shills said 4 cores is all anyone needs

[edgy laurel]

how is that related? the uber-nerdy details about per-chiplet core counts vs. core counts of the whole chip don't matter to most anyone.

means to an end again

and the end is all people care about

[turbid locust]

idgaf if it’s put together with dental floss if it’s performant

[edgy laurel]

(most people)

[primal wasp]

Bro this is my 2nd pc I have no ball knowledge every one knows more then I do so yes smart people lol

[wise bear]

ok so dont get a fishtank case and just get a normal black box

[turbid locust]

It’s a case

[granite dirge]

This is PC's there's no balls of your using a ball in a PC there's a bigger problem

[wise bear]

You wanna listen to smart people? listen to me

[shell void]

we all know that cross ccd hurts performance in latency sensitive applications (games) so that argument doesn’t work

it’s just the new age version of “4 cores is fine”

[turbid locust]

hurts? maybe. Makes it bad? no

[shell void]

yes

[edgy laurel]

except it doesn't really. I had a 7900x and games played just fine

[turbid locust]

If that were the case Intel wouldn’t be shitting the bed

If AMD can put chips together with dirt and dental floss and still beat Intel then…

[edgy laurel]

once again have to seperate out the bulk of buyers vs. the extreme minority of super enthusiast

[shell void]

your 6 cores per ccd met the bare minimum required to not need cross ccd and nuke performance so you didn’t notice

[turbid locust]

If it ram oc then we ball woooo

[shell void]

same thing as what i said to spark

it’s been known for years now that multi ccd parts perform better in games when the threads are only scheduled to one ccd

we don’t need to play ignorant xd

[torpid blaze]

I thought the general rule was Ryzen for gaming Intel for productive/general use

[wise bear]

wat

[torpid blaze]

Correct me if im wrong though

[turbid locust]

I’m not playing ignorant I’m just saying who gives a fuck

[edgy laurel]

yeah but one thing being better than the other doesn't mean one of them is "bad".

[torpid blaze]

Thats what people tell me

[edgy laurel]

an extreme minority, which is fine, but this explains why things are done. the majority doesn't really care

[wise bear]

Stop listening to those people

[torpid blaze]

Alr but could you explain it to me

[shell void]

nah you can use either of them for either purpose, but the U7 265K has been an excellent value workstation cpu

[torpid blaze]

But intel should be better at productive use like a workstation right

[turbid locust]

No. Use your prefrontal cortex and research it.

[topaz veldt]

Its cool to be pumped about projects at work again

[wise bear]

My guy..

[shell void]

if your use case can take advantage of intel quicksync then yeah, but in most cases the 9950X/X3D and 285K perform similarly

[gusty quartz]

Amd can be good at productivity too

[topaz veldt]

285K multicore is powerful

[torpid blaze]

Ive heard alot about the 9950x

Really does wonders

[gusty quartz]

It’s not about the brand, it’s about how the processors themselves perform

[torpid blaze]

I guess im just stereotyping the brands atp

😭

[wise bear]

Yes you are

[torpid blaze]

But still ive used both sides none of them have really disappointed me so far

[shell void]

amd and intel have been very closely competitive since 2022

[torpid blaze]

Even the intel i3s for the 10th gen did amazing for me

[shell void]

neither really blows the other one away with few exceptions like being able to use quicksync for some things

[wise bear]

I member when Ryzen 1 first launched..

Thems good days

[torpid blaze]

Better then fx cpu prices 😔💔

Those things are ancient

[shell void]

the zen 1 launch event was max hype but i don’t miss my 1600 at all

[wise bear]

Still have my 8350

[shell void]

that thing was a piece of crap

[torpid blaze]

1000 series should be forgotten

[wise bear]

What no

[torpid blaze]

3000-5000 we're pretty sweet

[wise bear]

Never forget your origins

[gusty quartz]

2000 series was good

[topaz veldt]

285K > 9950X

[torpid blaze]

Ive never seen the 2000 benchmarks but the 3400 did nearly the same as a 2600

Cant wait to finally go up to a 5000 series cpu

[shell void]

if you’re on 10th gen right now then i don’t think it’s worth buying into ryzen 5000

save up for AM5

[torpid blaze]

Nah im on am4 rn i was 10th gen on my laptop

[shell void]

o

[torpid blaze]

I finally let that thing rest in its grave

Its like i can hear its fans failing right now

I was planning to just skip am5 so when am6 is out ill have a sweet budget to experiment with

[wise bear]

I'm still semi-undecided on my next venture when I meander off of 10th gen

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

I just need B850 Mpower

And Zen 6

[shell void]

isn’t the power supposed to be out soon

[turbid locust]

🤷‍♂️

It’s been out since the 17th in China

[wise bear]

but michael, the power was in you all along

[shell void]

you’re right i can feel the power within

[turbid locust]

@shell void people have the B850 Force in hwbot now and while they’re booting to windows at like 12000MTs, I’ve only seen someone with 7800MTs stable lol

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-hell-gif-1773731824984430627

[torpid blaze]

10th gen is around am4 level right

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[turbid locust]

@shell void do we think Zen 6 vanilla is even remotely competitive with Zen5X3D

[shell void]

i hope it will be

[turbid locust]

I could see myself buying vanilla zen 6 on launch to appease myself but yk

[edgy laurel]

don't do it

been there. don't do it

[turbid locust]

[wraith steeple]

[hoary hatch]

That's cause I'm at D1/Fab 25 (cringe, they renamed D1 to Fab 25 🤮)

[turbid locust]

I need to be back in my A3

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-hodl-hodor-gif-11931825

[steel stream]

I emailed Mr Lip about a 18A tour but no response 😢

[turbid locust]

Tired of having this giant 216X on my desk

[hoary hatch]

I'd love to go to fab 52 though

But at the moment I have more tools in D1 than in HVM

[steel stream]

wouldn't we all

[wise bear]

if there's ever a fab69 I demand a video tour

[shell void]

[steel stream]

What Fab is 14A?

[shell void]

i could estimate the core performance, but we’ve seen that doesn’t directly translate to gaming performance

idk if the fabric and core improvements will outweigh the 9800x3d having twice as much cache as a hypothetical 10700x or whatever

i’m still expecting it to be Ryzen 7 480X3D

[steel stream]

Yeah, I would still expect the cache to have a decent lead over it

but who knows, maybe AMD is cooking with their fabric improvements

[shell void]

it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but the better Zen 6 is the better Zen6X3D is

unless you end up buying both you’re gonna have fomo

[shell void]

inshallah

[wise bear]

alasam ealaykum

[shell void]

the lion does not like that the ambient temperature is more than doubling during every day this week

i pack on layers because it’s frosty in the morning and then by 3pm it’s 80 degrees and sunny so i have to peel everything off

[hoary hatch]

It was supposed to be Ohio

But I suspect 14a will end up being D1/Fab 25; or Fab 52/62

[wise bear]

get comedic quick-strip thermal outerwear

[hoary hatch]

Cause we have a few high NA tools up here, but they're meant for development only (pre-production from ASML)

[steel stream]

45F this morning, high of 80. Unacceptable.

[cerulean cosmos]

so rgb mini-led monitors will have more color depth than qd-led?

[tawdry hound]

salam aleykoum wa rahmitullah illa barakato

[edgy laurel]

45 this morning but only 68-70 today. its perfect

[steel stream]

lucky duck]

[wise bear]

tbh arabic is a funky but interesting language

[shell void]

it’s going from 30s to 80 today for me :D

[tawdry hound]

tbf i dont think arabic is a language, but like a base to multiple arabics

[steel stream]

gah damn michael agony

[tawdry hound]

like arabic is the kernel, and everything else is a distro

[shell void]

i have two pairs of socks and a set of long john’s under my work pants i’m chillin

i’ll just have to sneakily peel those off at lunch time

[brisk jolt]

wallahi i wanna get dem airpods pro 3 on sunday

right b4 sch starts again

[wraith steeple]

This. In fact the dialects are so different, some might as well be a different language

[tawdry hound]

tomato in darija (morocco's arabic) is "Maticha" btw

[shell void]

astuggy

[wraith steeple]

Me and my family's native Dialect is basically the hillbilly of Arabic dialects

[hoary hatch]

I would suspect a full HVM ramp for 14a would be AZ fab 62

But we need the customers

Lip Bu needs to go kiss some more ass

[steel stream]

I saw they were talking to Apple, and having them test out 14A

[steel stream]

how do you always have a video playing in every single SS

[edgy laurel]

light mode user and PiP user on phones

what planet do you live on

[hoary hatch]

I am highly addicted to YouTube
But for once it's not Daniel Owen

I have to always be listening to something tbh

[steel stream]

Navy is just a 4th dimensional being

[hoary hatch]

Otherwise the tinnitus is too strong

[edgy laurel]

must be

[steel stream]

valid tbh

[hoary hatch]

I am a mobile accomplisher

This is why I want a foldable

[edgy laurel]

hell you need a foldable

[whole coral]

Ayyy I have tinnitus too

Thankfully it’s not bad

[wise bear]

mine's ringing atm 😔

[shell void]

hey man what’s wrong with pip

[rich idol]

Would i have to delid a CPU to get any real advantage with liquid metal?

[whole coral]

I only hear the ringing when I wear earplugs or when I’m falling asleep/waking up

[shell void]

yes

[steel stream]

yeah

[whole coral]

Otherwise it’s barely perceptible

[wise bear]

You don't need to be messing with liquid metal.

[rich idol]

I wasn't planning on it, i was just curious, i was thinking of either going for Kryonaut or NT-H2

[whole coral]

You know what’s interesting? When I hit my ear the tinnitus actually goes away temporarily

It’s a phenomenon

[wise bear]

temporary overstimuli from the sudden pressure in the ear canal makes your brain focus on that instead of the false noises

[pale beacon]

Have tinnitus since 2001

Fkn 9mm without ear protection

[hoary hatch]

I just am not sold on the durability yet

Also don't like the idea of a $1800+ phone

Tbh I'd probably buy the damage insurance with any kind of fold

[shell void]

i love the design of the fold 7, but i don’t like that the interior display has to be soft plastic instead of glass

[whole coral]

Maybe we can have good treatments for tinnitus in the future

[hoary hatch]

Have you tried one at a best buy or carrier store

[shell void]

yeah

i played with the fold 7 at a verizon store

it’s a beautiful phone and doesn’t feel like it’s going to break

[steel stream]

I just don't trust plastic in my displays

[whole coral]

Maybe we can target this. The DCN

[hoary hatch]

I don't think the inner display feels that bad

[shell void]

i don’t like that it’ll be easily scratchable and screen protector replacement is pain

[steel stream]

can't ever carry pocket sand ever again with a fold

[wise bear]

no its now pocket fent

[steel stream]

oh

[hoary hatch]

I'll keep it in my emotional support jar of iron shavings instead

[steel stream]

yeah that'll probably work

[shell void]

pocket diamond powder

[steel stream]

5nail might have that, I am still on sand sadly

[brisk jolt]

why are you rallying

[steel stream]

who?

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/subaru-rally-wrc-subaru-rally-wrc-racing-gif-16681847

[torpid blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/rally-solberg-aero-motorsport-jump-gif-18033733939375272751

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslide-rally-gif-22976260

[torpid blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/subaru-gc-jump-subaru-gc-rally-wrc-gif-13955568711481566012

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bunta-fujiwara-aura-initial-d-fourth-stage-gif-26134905

[hoary hatch]

He ruined it

[steel stream]

bastard

[torpid blaze]

average touge fan vs average rally enjoyer

[brisk jolt]

both are gud

[cerulean cosmos]

we need a 3d printing channel >:c

[torpid blaze]

yes... i must learn to 3d print completely trivial things for the fun of it

[cerulean cosmos]

calibrating some printers is hard

[torpid blaze]

3d printing is one thing 3d sculpting is another

3d sculpting is its whole league by its own

i wanna make funny meme stuff and decals

thankfully there are 3d printing services nowadays

[cerulean cosmos]

microsoft's 3d paint lets you order 3d objects in solid gold

[torpid blaze]

what

why are we 3d printing with real gold

[cerulean cosmos]

yep

[torpid blaze]

cant you just make a mold

and melt gold

wouldnt that be like way easier

[cerulean cosmos]

i was wrong its 3d viewer

[rich idol]

Is it safe to delete the $Windows.~WS folder? i'm trying to make a window 11 install medium, but the media creation tool won't start, i read on a thread that the files in this folder could be interfering, but i also read it contains update files so i got hesitant with deleting it

[cerulean cosmos]

Okay so are you trying to put it on a USB

[rich idol]

yes

[cerulean cosmos]

Or are you trying to do like optical media?

Oh okay well

Is it a legit version of Windows 11?

[rich idol]

i downloaded it from microsoft.com

[cerulean cosmos]

I meant like is it an actual version of Windows 11 and not some third party

[edgy laurel]

he said he's using the media creation tool

which is from Microsoft

[cerulean cosmos]

True that is his first failure

[wise bear]

no?

[edgy laurel]

what?

[rich idol]

[wise bear]

MCT is a perfectly fine tool to use

[cerulean cosmos]

I mean yeah it's pretty slow though there are other options

[pure garnet]

it was a bit buggy years ago but i wouldn’t write it off entirely because of that

[edgy laurel]

there is rufus.. and its not any faster and WAY more complicated for noobs

[wise bear]

yeah you only get the iso so fast from microsoft's cdn

the installer is the same process, it's just writing the iso contents to the flash drive and making it bootable

[cerulean cosmos]

I mean yeah but pretty much what I meant was is he actually using a version of Windows that's not like how they used to make third party things like the bloatware gold Windows 7 or whatever the hell it's called

[edgy laurel]

I think you're confused with whats going on

[wise bear]

livery wtf are you going on about

[cerulean cosmos]

I know he's saying it's not starting the media creation process

[pure garnet]

rambling for the love of the game

[wise bear]

rambling worse than me 4 beers in

[rich idol]

My current system runs a legit version of winsow 10 pro, i've run the media creation tool on this system before, but today it doesn't want to run

[edgy laurel]

so use another computer

[rich idol]

all the other computers in the house are Macs

[pure garnet]

or you could use rufus

[cerulean cosmos]

Can't you just never mind...

[pure garnet]

it’s a bit more complicated but it’ll work

[wise bear]

its not too complicated, there's just a couple extra things to click on

[edgy laurel]

or just rufus, yes. it can download the necessary files and write to the USB stick just the same.. but a couple more button pushes to do it

[cerulean cosmos]

I'm asking if the version that you're trying to create for your bootable windows media is a legit Windows version is what I was asking

[wise bear]

MCT only comes from one place my dude

[cerulean cosmos]

That much is clear that the answer is yes

You'd be surprised Peyton...

[rich idol]

how would i be able to creatue a illegitimate version of windows with the official media creation tool?

[wise bear]

livery, MCT is the same thing as rufus with less functionality

[pure garnet]

i think he’s a couple beers into this one

[rich idol]

the problem is that the MCT doesn't start, i click it, the windows logo flashes on my screen and then it closes

[cerulean cosmos]

No no I'm not telling him to use Rufus I was just saying that the iso that he got could be the problem

[wise bear]

hes like 16 i fucking hope not

[cerulean cosmos]

But he did say that he got it from the official Microsoft website so I don't know

[edgy laurel]

good thing you'll be wiping that system soon

something is certainly wrong with it

[wise bear]

MCT only pulls the iso from microsoft what the actual fuck are you snorting

[cerulean cosmos]

I'm saying there are illegitimate iso's out there

[rich idol]

is it safe to delte the $Windows.~WS folder or not? that was my actual question

[wise bear]

yes its fine to delete

[rich idol]

thank you

[wise bear]

its just an update cache

[pure garnet]

4 into these then

[cerulean cosmos]

Me no smard💀

[wise bear]

we know

[edgy laurel]

select your USB, then set this to Download. Then click Download.

this will pop up

just keep clicking Continue

oh, 25h2, nice

[cerulean cosmos]

And I really need to calibrate mine

Oh shit I thought it would be more compact than that

[rich idol]

what does the "use the recommended options for this PC" do? is it just language and windows edition?

[wise bear]

yes

[rich idol]

okay

[cerulean cosmos]

Yes

[rich idol]

then i don't need to do this whole song and dance after all

[wise bear]

yw

[rich idol]

thank you

[edgy laurel]

wait, what are you doing

[wise bear]

hes making an installer

[edgy laurel]

i thought it wouldn't start

what changed

[wise bear]

the app wouldn't because of the windows_ws folder at the root of C

Which they now deleted

[cerulean cosmos]

Is it normal for that folder to be like 5 GB?

[wise bear]

yes

[edgy laurel]

missed that, the 16 images of pink moved it out of the way

[cerulean cosmos]

Sorry that was me trying to show that my printer needs calibrated

[wise bear]

Helpin' where I can

[rich idol]

Basically i was looking at a LTT video on installing windows 11, he said to uncheck that box, but if that only impacts langauge and windows version then i already have a windows 11 install medium that will suffice, so i don't need to do this song and dance after all

[wise bear]

yeah just keep doing what you're doing

baaaased lets gooooo

4c4t to 6c12t yayy

[steel stream]

huge

[wise bear]

mega mega stoked

[cerulean cosmos]

What is c/Windows/installer

[steel stream]

my smart mirror should be shipped soonTM

[wise bear]

livery you're killing me here

[cerulean cosmos]

I mean yeah I know what it is I'm just saying

[steel stream]

Also got myself a new jacket, and looking at some new shoes

[topaz veldt]

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/blog/new-minus-pad-extreme-2-minus-pad-high-compression

[wise bear]

I need to get more hoodies since it's finally that season

[cerulean cosmos]

This stupid laptop is like 74 GB out of 77 GB and there's like nothing installed on it

[wise bear]

use wiztree

[cerulean cosmos]

I am

[edgy laurel]

I need a new jacket for this season

[wise bear]

sucks to suck?

[cerulean cosmos]

It seems to all be completely windows

[edgy laurel]

there is, just use wiztree

[wise bear]

I rember it just being windirstat and sometimes waiting for 5 minutes on a drive scan :^)

[edgy laurel]

oh we remember

[wise bear]

oh my god i still have windirstat installed

[edgy laurel]

have you done the basic Disk Cleanup and clicked the clean system files button?

[pure garnet]

windirstat on a hard drive is an experience

[wise bear]

^^^^^^

[rich idol]

jumpscare

[edgy laurel]

everythign I need to know

[rich idol]

so wiztree is a better alternative?

[cerulean cosmos]

It's only going to free up 715 MB

I'm going to try the other options too

[edgy laurel]

but why is it there at all? lol

[cerulean cosmos]

It's a stupid School laptop I can't uninstall it I don't have administrator permissions

[wise bear]

this was actually the icon for an old software I'd use to create custom guns in borderlands 1 on the 360, I'd sell them for microsoft points & just give them to you in-game. That funded like, 20 new games

[edgy laurel]

wiztree is the modern, better version of windirstat. same result, million times faster

[cerulean cosmos]

I don't have the admin password either

[pure garnet]

if it’s not yours, don’t mess with it

[cerulean cosmos]

Trust me they don't give a shit about these laptops

[edgy laurel]

they have 75GB drives?

[rich idol]

noted!

[cerulean cosmos]

Yes

[wise bear]

kinda miss these days tbh

[cerulean cosmos]

For whatever reason there was a 3 GB partition that I deleted

It literally had nothing in it

[wise bear]

fuck you mean you deleted a 3gb partition

stop trying to break windows

[pure garnet]

doing this to your school issued laptop is quite the choice

[rich idol]

i remember when we were given the admin passowrds for our school laptops, we installed steam and mincecraft and the PCs barely even ran minecraft

[edgy laurel]

til minecraft education is a thing

[cerulean cosmos]

I'm not trying to break Windows it was a randomly user made fucking 3 GB partition that literally had no files in it

[wise bear]

a dying thing tbh

[steel stream]

I've got plenty of crewnecks, bought myself a carhartt jacket because my 7 year old Patagonia jacket is giving out

[wise bear]

ah yes fancy clothing brand names I totally know these

[pure garnet]

we didn’t have the admin password but we had a copy of 1.5.2 stashed on the teacher’s files shared to student network share

[rich idol]

it's actually kinda fun to play around with

[pure garnet]

and local multiplayer worked across the entire campus

[wise bear]

isn't a patagonia a type of flower

[cerulean cosmos]

I just had mine hooked up to the ethernet for a while and was planning on hosting like a little school-wide sort of secret Minecraft the server off this shitty little laptop

[edgy laurel]

don't think so

[cerulean cosmos]

I even had mods

[steel stream]

Clothing brand + region of South America

[edgy laurel]

its a place

[cerulean cosmos]

I had like five~six people on it at one point

[rich idol]

I took IT classes so we were given the admin password, that school semester felt like a waste tbh, all we learned was HTML and how to create and manage a Windows Server

[pure garnet]

my senior year of high school i just setup stuff for the game club during one of my classes

[steel stream]

I really liked my Patagonia jacket, but it's a little small and I had it in high school, so it survived some rough moments

[wise bear]

OOGH this reminds me of the days of freshman year in high school when campus internet wasn't VLAN'd out between buildings yet, we'd have halo 2 in the CAD lab and in the library at lunchtime it was awesome

[cerulean cosmos]

The entire user's folder only takes about 5.6 GB

[pure garnet]

the district decided to ball out and buy like 240hz alienware monitors

so i was just putting those together for an hour

[cerulean cosmos]

Sadly I have to keep Microsoft office

[wise bear]

oh my god my dipwad rarted ass was thinking of begonias

[pure garnet]

you should probably leave the things installed you need for school

[rich idol]

I low key considered getting an alienware case, one of the older ones, think it was called Aurora, but tbh i won't be looking at the PC half the time so the looks don't matter, and airflow in that case likely won't be that good since most of the front is covered

[wise bear]

livery stop fucking with your school's laptop

[merry stirrup]

willowtree

[wise bear]

just use the fucking thing like you're supposed to

WILLOWTREE THATS IT

willow was BL1's codename

[merry stirrup]

bl2 is my favorite game of all time and by extension i played a lot of bl1

[cerulean cosmos]

||I already swapped out the ram I'm going to put it back but I put some better ram in it >:>||

[merry stirrup]

if its shit ram id leave it for the next person who gets the laptop

[pure garnet]

it department has to hate hm

[steel stream]

Patagonia and Carhartt are both brands that were made for specifc purposes (Patagonia was for the outdoors and stuff, Carhartt was for tradesmen and stuff) but both have been discovered and taken over by the masses, and I am not helping buying Carhartt

[cerulean cosmos]

I do online

[merry stirrup]

oh lol

[cerulean cosmos]

Yeah that's why they don't give a shit

I'm going to put the old shitty ram back whenever I'm done

I can barely get on the classes without it

[pure garnet]

why not just use your computer

[cerulean cosmos]

I can't

Just not allowed

[wise bear]

take drive from laptop, put in computer

[cerulean cosmos]

Not by the school

[pure garnet]

when i was online for 11th grade i just tossed my school issued laptop in my closet and didn’t touch it till the day i turned it in

[wise bear]

no wait why am i enabling this

[merry stirrup]

same

even in actual school i brought my own laptop

[cerulean cosmos]

I have a free Chromebook from my school for whenever I left I just let me keep it cuz it was one of the old ones I ended up taking a part and now it's just sitting in there multiple pieces

Somehow that thing has a better storage than this

[pure garnet]

i wasn’t that crazy

[merry stirrup]

fuck dealing with tiny 11inch 1336x768 chromebooks

[pure garnet]

i did sign up for a tmobile data trial to get past the wifi filter though

[cerulean cosmos]

I am not allowed to use my personal computer

[merry stirrup]

kick flip it down the stairs and ask it if i can use my own laptop

[cerulean cosmos]

Too distracting apparently

[pure garnet]

carried that little hotspot around and let all the homies connect

[merry stirrup]

and youre not allowed to open their hw. but look what you did

how is this any different lol 💀

[cerulean cosmos]

It's more about what computer I'm using

[pure garnet]

i don’t stop at stop signs but red lights? they mean business

[cerulean cosmos]

More of like the other way around

[merry stirrup]

if you upgraded the ram already they saw that the hw changed

[cerulean cosmos]

Oh also since I put the new ram in it stopped blue screening and that was before I even changed anything with the software that was already installed

Trust me I've looked through it they don't have a view on the computer's hardware or software at all

[pure garnet]

if it was blue screening you should’ve just sent it in to get fixed

[cerulean cosmos]

Well it's been in before and they didn't fix it

So I just decided to fix it myself

[wise bear]

then request a new one

[merry stirrup]

then why does any of their arbitrary rules you choose to follow matter

[wise bear]

livery are you high

[cerulean cosmos]

Well it's not their rules is my parents rules I'm not allowed to use my personal computer

[merry stirrup]

if youre going to break the rules do it right

[pure garnet]

💀💀💀💀

[cerulean cosmos]

I mean yeah slightly ethical rule breaking

Technically what I've done it has improved the computer

I mean I have a backup of the original drive so...

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hitting-head-on-desk-cat-insane-cat-gif-24842238

[cerulean cosmos]

Also it's a shitty HP Notebook 255 G8

[pure garnet]

it could be a macbook pro but you still don’t mess with things that aren’t yours

[cerulean cosmos]

I've had this thing for almost 2 years now

Also whenever I put in a request for a new one they just sent me the same one back

The first reason I actually started changing the softwares because they had these stupid reminder pop-ups that would fuck me up in the middle of a test

Anyway with what's already on there I can't even download the files and forms that I need for school anyway that's why I'm doing this

I've made it from sort of barely useful to actually half decent

Look I know I'm stupid but at least I slightly know what I'm doing

[merry stirrup]

nah im just rawdogging my schools rds server as my main machine clearly

[cerulean cosmos]

LMAO

[merry stirrup]

when i get everyones data deleted its not my fault they should secure it better

[pure garnet]

i do have su access......

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[wise bear]

I sense a bobby drop-tables is going to appear in your school registry

[pure garnet]

i'm like one of 5 people on campus with privileges im sure i'd be in a meeting schedule within 30s if i ever tried to even update something

[cerulean cosmos]

I don't know

[civic reef]

Tomorrow I shall procure the dual tower,,,,,

[cerulean cosmos]

You probably could get away with it (just don't leave your name in there like some idiots)

[merry stirrup]

i am purchasing my new microphone setup next check i refuse to let it wait

[cerulean cosmos]

Lol

[pure garnet]

how do you think credentials work

[wise bear]

lmaooooo

[cerulean cosmos]

Yep

[merry stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/Neat-King-Bee-Microphone-Podcasting/dp/B09KZCNNZ4
i have no idea what interface to purchase

[cerulean cosmos]

Lol

[pure garnet]

it would obviously have my name attached when i log in with my name

[civic reef]

You just worded exactly what I do in a way I didn't think was possible

I am pretty sure it's called impulse buying but to a lesser degree

[merry stirrup]

what

[pure garnet]

is this for lofi ram-oc rages to vibe to

[cerulean cosmos]

I probably still have access to some of my stuff from my other school that I went to

[merry stirrup]

oh i mean ive been planning to buy this mic since xmas...last year

[civic reef]

"Buying xyz next paycheck I refuse to let it wait"

[civic reef]

Oh fair enough

[wise bear]

4 more hours reeee

[merry stirrup]

i just d ont know a lot about XLR interfaces so its pushing me off

i also need to get a bullshit stand

[civic reef]

Nvm in-applicable,,,,,

[merry stirrup]

yes, tune in

[pure garnet]

i have the rgb mic but on a cheap arm

[merry stirrup]

yeah my buddy has one its surprisingly good

i just had to fix it this weekend tho

be gentle on that type c port

[pure garnet]

yeah i left a ton of slack since it's on an arm so

[cerulean cosmos]

Saw a video of someone deleting Swapfile.sys

[pure garnet]

it should be okay

[merry stirrup]

i think im gon get that and a 2i2 and a mic stand

[cerulean cosmos]

Why?

[civic reef]

I use le integrated microphone on my $15 headset

It's actually pretty decent

[merry stirrup]

2i2 only because its red

[edgy laurel]

is it?

[civic reef]

Also what model is this

[merry stirrup]

quadcast s

[civic reef]

Looks pretty decent, good buy tbh

[pure garnet]

i haven't used a headset since this jawn

[edgy laurel]

kyoko say it ain't so

[merry stirrup]

@edgy laurel 2i2 good?

youre this typa nerd youd know probably

[wise bear]

2i2 very good

[merry stirrup]

sounds good i purchase 2i2 and my mocophone

[steel stream]

oh shit Ghost of Yotei is out today

[cerulean cosmos]

What does Winsxs actually contain?

[merry stirrup]

setup files

[edgy laurel]

ya, it'll do the job just fine. My worry is more about suitable headphone output power, since if I used one of those i'd want the realtime sidetone offered by the interface

[wise bear]

livery we are not google 😭

[cerulean cosmos]

Ah

[pure garnet]

i used to just use my imac's internal mic for discord calls and then i got a dedicated mic right after

[cerulean cosmos]

Are you sure about that?

[edgy laurel]

i was going to ask you about that

[merry stirrup]

i will live example you

[steel stream]

Luckily haven't seen any spoilers yet, looks like I have weekend plans now

[cerulean cosmos]

Yes

[wise bear]

I want this but I want the little hammer and plier jaws to be pink

[pure garnet]

hatsune miku

[merry stirrup]

dll and setup files

i see stuff relating to auto cad in here, etc

[cerulean cosmos]

Kaboom?

I see

[wise bear]

I've wanted the leatherman signal for yearrrrs but I can never really justify $140 on a multitool

[cerulean cosmos]

But $150 in of cheese

[edgy laurel]

damn I have a leatherman somewhere.. wish I knew where

[wise bear]

oh based they're made in portland

cost is somewhat justifying itself more

[edgy laurel]

it was a squirt

probably 20 years old

[wise bear]

Dude we don't wanna hear about your first time

[pure garnet]

wait is amd actually trying

[edgy laurel]

shhhh

[wise bear]

Oh I had one of those!!!

[merry stirrup]

the name

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[wise bear]

Dude I love him

[cerulean cosmos]

For whatever reason I actually like updating drivers

[edgy laurel]

this explains a lot

[wise bear]

FUCK YOU MEAN

nah nah elaborate

[edgy laurel]

I don't know, but i knew it would have that reaction so it felt right

[wise bear]

I don't think he's hot, I meant the character

[edgy laurel]

I know

[cerulean cosmos]

Don't hehehe

[wise bear]

I'm just a woman what do you want from me 😔

[steel stream]

the sociopath?

the evil person?

[cerulean cosmos]

Yes

[edgy laurel]

livery you need a keyboard lock

[wise bear]

yeah, tbh the entire movie is a classic

[cerulean cosmos]

Phone

Halp

[edgy laurel]

can only type so much each day, then you're banned

[cerulean cosmos]

Many lag

[wise bear]

@ mod can we mute livery for like 2 hours

[gloomy vault]

i have this somewhere around the house its an army issued one though

[cerulean cosmos]

:(

[edgy laurel]

maybe LTT can do an auto-mute. gets an hour a day then back on mute

[wise bear]

this is very SOG

[pure garnet]

the hour should randomize too

[edgy laurel]

yes

[gloomy vault]

bloody annoying to use though

[wise bear]

yeah i bet w/ gloves on

[pure garnet]

i think today i’ll stop being lazy and install linux

[cerulean cosmos]

I know I'm annoying but it's like one of the only things I'm really interested in doing if I had a car I'd be working on that

[steel stream]

gotta get the hacksmith multitool only like $250

[cerulean cosmos]

It's like the only thing I'd be doing

I don't care if I didn't have parts I'd just be doing it for the hell of it

[merry stirrup]

grosss

[cerulean cosmos]

That's it now you have to deal with the person that just says PC doesn't work hands you their PC and refuses to elaborate

[merry stirrup]

dude thats my entire work day

[pure garnet]

dual boot dear floppa

[merry stirrup]

thats my steam name

just the 2nd half

[steel stream]

god made VMs for a reason

[pure garnet]

that is more work

i’d also have to reenable my igpu

[merry stirrup]

what if you wanted to go to heaven

but god said

Activate Windows
Go to settings to activate Windows

[gloomy vault]

💔

[pure garnet]

oled burn in of the activate windows watermark

[merry stirrup]

my god thats perfect

[pure garnet]

haha warship point and laugh

[merry stirrup]

550$ monitor to have watermark burned in