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i'm not doing anything to reload x4, it just does it
oh yeah
what are you playing
Destiny Rising
is that a new destiny game
yes, the mobile game
ew why
because its good
is it?
man I miss this game
Are you using touch controls
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Haxor
officially supported and encouraged by the developer, using their own emulator
My dumbass thought this was the iOS swipe up to go home thing
4K 120 w/ RTX HDR working
yeh i hope it works well
I'm terrified
At least it's free, but Jesus Fuck that's stupid
He took it out for some reason
Why? That one I can't answer
personally when i open power supplies its with extreme caution on my floor next to my steel wool, kindling, and isopropyl alcohol
Lol
like with this
Now this is kinda tempting
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission
any idea why some microsoft pages such as this one load like this? improperly?
Submit suspected malware or incorrectly detected files for analysis. Submitted files will be added to or removed from antimalware definitions based on the analysis results.
I was able to get it to load properly using a VM + VPN in the vm, idk why it does this
this page loads find on my phone on the same network as well
yes and yes
even in the VM didn't work off the bat, had to get a free vpn inside the vm
even firefox
the only 4:3 square flat panel that’s ips
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HYDwrH/nec-monitor-md213mg
1500p 4:3 is crazy
holy rectangle
Aren't those monitors in particular fairly popular in East Asia?
The nec or my viewsonic
The NEC above
Idk
I gotta rewatch the good f&fs
Ive learned about cars since
WHAT
Youve only seen a bad one
It went off a cliff after tokyo drift
what
that was more of a comedy show tbh
those 2 mfs have shit in their contracts requiring that they dont lose
i hope they fix the imc aswell
I remember this case, for me it was hard to build in
And I believe it had 6-7 drive bays with plastic sleds
I assume this is mostly a secondary monitor
Nobody is genuinely using this as a main monitor right 😭
12ms gtg it should be a put in storage and only use if I absolutely need to
fps players thinking 4:3 will make them more pro
Stretched resolution is really sweet for fps games though
found one
What did you find?
What... a shit s how.
I was shipping a few things yesterday and my stupid printer decided to not print, whatever
classic printer things
yeah well, I had already printed a UPS label for today out, so it was the top item on the printer... went to mail back my Radikult Distro Plate.... put the wrong label on it. ECS Tuning is getting m y god damned distro plate.
oh boy
I'm sure if you contact ECS it can be worked out lol
Yeah hopefully - first going to try and contact Pirate Ship, I did the label thru there
Its not due for delivery until tomorrow, I think I can reroute
I am solo with the kids this week lol - its showi ng
sup
I've never seen a fast and furious movie
Except for the really bad one
Oh cool - powercli gallery is fucked up because of Broadcom takeover
I reccomend the first few up to Tokyo drift at least
you need to relax with part 3 of the cheap muscle car challenge
where jackstand finds yet another way to cheat the system
I saw it lol
and gets called out on it hard
I was distracted but it was about the nitrous setup
ya lol
what was the cheat
not necessarily a cheat, I guess. but the kit was twice the price of the others kits, overbudget on one part
either way, the banter and mr. sam catching strays had me giggling
too funny
isnt nitrous being phased out in favor of compressed o2 injection?
no
There's like one dude on 1320 video who has an insane compressed air setup, but it runs for like 4 seconds and has huge, huge, huge tanks on board its not really a t hing
hmm ok
my father has been talking to me abt one of his coworkers cars, apparently the thing has a turbo that's bigger than my head
says it pulls over 1400 hp if i remember
I think i've seen that
might have even been posted here
The mines
your moms house
Deliberately cutting the network is a felony I believe
That's why I accidentally do so
To make people go outside
If it’s accidental then it wouldn’t be as bad since it’s not malicious
I do it maliciously by accident
And I'm gonna do it again
Just as accidentally
And even more maliciously
Cutting a single home line is certainly not as bad as cutting a major network route.
Inb4 you cut a subsea cable
in your guys opinion what is the all around best gpu, or does it differ with different components
The biostar 6950xt
Still on top

how?
Cause biostar stays winning
what did they do to it
what leaderboard is that
this isn't a matter of opinion
There is just one best. period.
RTX Blackwell 6000 pro
He's right, you know
so unless you have more context than just "best"..
I am correct though
ig but still scrw you
don't shoot the messenger
I didn't do nothing wrong
(out of the available consumer products in America)
RTX 5090 is the most powerful
RTX 5080 is the most efficient
RTX 5070 Ti is the best value
lol
the dog is living a better life than me
Currently running my oled at 75% but 100% looks a lot better.. Should be fine right?
now thats customer service
ew, 100% or nothing
might as well turn it off (we're talking about brightness.. yes?)
Yea
Read some stuff saying 75% is best for burn in mitigation etc
But I also want to experience the monitor to the fullest
i knew this would be a "but i heard" situation
you do you. seems pretty pointless to me to buy a display that already isn't crazy bright to begin with and then turn the brightness down
it's all or nothing
but what do I know
Aww that's cute as fuck
you've learned nothing after your 12,000 hours
nah i agree, i just wanted a second opinion
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When did 5090 come out
Screen time feature on a tv is so weird like idc
1998
Jan 30th 2025
Won’t see 6090 till 2027 thanks for the late release
What happened to them releasing sept October
5090 for lyfe
That slight manuever from the 4090 to 5090 cost them 51 years
Fire strike 6950 graphics score
is lyfe a 2 year span until 6090
yes
5090 is g
My guess would be earlier, NV likes money. 60 series should follow a year after the Super cards no?
hi jorj
What job title. U need to have to work on the design n function of the new nvidia cards
rlly ah
i might get a 3090 to shunt mod next 🤑
bro finna be stuck outside begging for me to paynow again
bro i fucking work with some slow fuck today
wtf actual baby in the channel
We've had younger, sadly.
1 man police roadblock bro
fucker keep going inside use phone
ever seen 8 year old on discord?
that is to be determined
no thankfully
Who’s that g
I think ASIC Design engineer, Hardware Design Verification engineer, Hardware physical design
I think ech0 is like, 14? That's the youngest regular I can think of off my head
same but ik there are many
you would say that
yes
So pc masters basically
how was the experience
no nova lake big cache + 6090 upgade?
live video of what you did to ur z790 asus mobo
hes 14????
wtf
I think so??
?
he got banned after a couple minutes of being in the VC because he was 7 :p
eh, these are actual engineers
@tepid lichen how old are you again we forgor
this got really fuckin weird
ya im on my 4th Z790
oh wow hes very smart
😂😂
definitely novalake
i just dont know if ill want to sell my 5090 right away
You applied for all these iternships at nvidia??
gotta see the wiz 101 perf
Yeah I've applied for 5 so far, and a handful at Intel
bro took job application way too seriously
serious q do you know what you’re doing!
8 cores -> 52 (48) cores will be fire
Cus if they interview you are you going to know what to say
keep going, you'll get there
Jorj that's a big question from you considering your lack of knowledge on.. well, anything
i gave up
i feel that
respect
what qualifications do you even need to apply
I haven't done a lot of actual architecture design, but I have a decent grasp of VLSI and VHDL, and some ASIC stuff
like educaional background i presume?
well he has a degree in pcs
i mean he said it was a serious question
Most of my physical experience is in analog design for circuits
yea or what course entitles you to have a chance of application
he knows to go to miami
My first Intel since the 8000 series. Im doing the same.
Personal contraceptives? God I hope so.
dad
when she says its an hour drive to her house but you respond “ill be there in 2”
hours?
Computer Engineering or Electrical Engineering, any sort of hardware related courses
wait no, Alonso is only like 5 years older than me
applying with my it degree just to clog up the system
dang you didnt try alderlake or raptorlake?
am sure you can find all of that within a google search along the lines of what type of internship you want plus requirements at whatever company
novalake will technically be my first intel chip
wtf
fake intel fans in this channel
i've only owned intel cpus
the only recent intel gen i haven't owned is 14th gen
im not counting the shitty intel chip in the 2015 mac 
my old lappy had amd cpu
i've had alder raptor and arrow
10th gen goes hard
intel was a total monopoly for like 20 years so it blows my mind to hear about people in here never having used an intel cpu
technically I had a 11th gen work laptop xd
I've had 4th gen, 7th gen, 11th gen, 12th and now ARL
y'all are like 20y/o. unless you were building PC's before you were 15, most people went AMD 5 years ago
btw the collage you went to did they offer any advantages for getting more internships than others , am talking about collages like A&M or whatnot
ive used fx 6300, r5 1600, and r7 9800x3d
everything before and in-between was Intel
the only reason i started with ryzen was because the reddit psyop convinced me to get a haswell tier glue processor because it was cheaper
im ngl when I looked at the intel chip bundle prices compared to AMD back then, the intel ones were pretty shit considering I was jst trynna get into PC gaming atp
Yeah we got tons of career fairs and stuff, as well as opportunities in clubs to network with people
if i ponied up for like an 8400 i could've just skipped the zen 2 "upgrade" entirely and been on with my day
my first gaming pc was a fx 6300 in a gigabyte matx board with 16gb of ram and a zotac 750ti
i had office pcs and laptops before that tho, ive been playing with computers for almost 20 years
yeah but most people, not all people.
of course there will be some playing with PC's before they were 15
I had a 5800X3D during Alderlake, then a 7950X3D during raptor lake
point is, i can certainly see how people who got into PC's in the last 5 years would never have had anything enthusiast Intel
Hopefully that’s going to change and Intel will release a chip so good it will rival a TR
my 5800x3d didn't get a fair shot because my board sucked so bad i wanted off it
the cursed gigabyte itx board 🔥
built my first PC in 2023 and still went Intel 💪
intel gpu
got two of those too
ooo i think we already did our career fair and stuff but thats cool
most i would see in the network departments here is mostly just with cisco and the likes of them
clubs are the best way imo, they will have speakers that are usually from the clubs, so it is super easy to network and they are more willing to give out opportunities to members in the club
Is NVL going to use TSMC N3 silicon or are they making their own with 18A?
yeah for next am prlly going to join more clubs as once i see myself competent of working with the materials and projects they do ill join them
N2 is the current rumor I think
clubs and projects are the way to go
michael can fact check me, but I am pretty sure NVL will be N2, as 18A is being used for Xeon and Panther Lake
I'm just going to assume you tagged the wrong person cause fuck if I know! 😆
people are great
i mean
isnt on that like idk maybesomewhat done thru baseclock oc?
bclk does exist if they wanna fry it
You should know this by now, you are in this chat enough
I try very hard to ignore all that mumbo jumbo
it's not mumbo jumbo, it's nonsense that means something to crazy people
all these number and letter combinations. I have no idea what any of them mean or their significance
the numbers mason
exactly
when i was in a computer hardware course we had to take a computer apart in groups and put them back together
you’d not be surprised by how many people put the ram in the dvd bay
14
nice pfp
ty
this is how everyone reacts its kinda alarming
Lmao
if I had a kid at 25 then... shit
is that too late or too young for you?
well, I don't but.. thats probably to young. too much to do out there
I see, was asking bc im wanting to see what some ppl thing is the right age to start a family
25 too young
I will be 22 when I graduate college, to have a kid 3 years after that would be insane
same and ill turn 22 next month XD
i got the rest of this semester which im half way through and the next semester
Try having a kid who’s 25.😂
holy unc
GAHHHHHH damn
must have been so sad when you had to put down your pet dinosaur
I was a teenage parent 😂. He turned out all right.
I can say I always had the energy for sleepless nights and keeping up with a young kiddo.
@slim pebble I am solo with the kids for the week - last night I was distracted and mailed my distro block to the wrong place by putting the wrong label on lol
damn
Ouch, you know where it’s going so you can fix it at least.
fortunately was able to intervept it
Your new whiteout build looks great so far, can’t wait to see the thermals when it’s done.
Young? Not really 18-20 is young 25 and above is normal
what
once i am done playing "explore the nation" with the distro plate lol
so nice of you to give your distro plate a paid vacation
snail have u been Italy
Okay
I have
Where
I've been to Rome and Venice
I didn’t like Rome
It was cool
the gl83a keeps getting image persistence after like 30 minutes of use
i think i’m gonna have to replace it
sensory overload
yeah that's too much even for me
thats to the point of maybe a little embarrassing to have to explain to other people
this is good. /r/highqualitygifs
easy way to get labeled as a nerd in a bad way
and to think that GIF comes from Spy Kids
something for the parents to watch and just go "holy shit" after sitting through nonsense for an hour
This is like... borderline sad
If it makes them happy, all that matters I guess
those must be some tired eyes
Imagine a flight sim on that rig
looking to upgrade my pc but keep some of my drives from old pc. running 3 nvme atm. 2 are in a raid config. is i posible to move them and the data to the new pc or am i guna have to reformat them?
real
zen4 lookin' hot with them golden ccds
All new design!
innovation
Zen 3 is sleek and professional, Zen 4 is all about showing off
means to an end.. means to an end
People make fun of Jufes, but he’s definitely not wrong about this.
Infinity Fabric
I thought you were gonna type out "If it ain't broke don't fix it"
Anyone play golf with friends
I've gone golfing with friends
relevant? nope
had nothing in favorites that was so we just went with the vibe choice
Anyone got like any clue why my R7 7700, 2x16GB, RTX 4060 system has lag issues on firefox youtube playback when tabbed into a game on my main monitor, currently issues with CS2. Where should I start looking? Is my GPU the issue here because it's used a lot, but this wasn't an issue in my R5 5600x system, or is the nvidia app paired with the recording just more taxing than shadowplay used to be?
(ignore my MC server)
java app running and wondering about FPS smoothness?
it was prob one swing
When your GPU is being maxed out, youtube either lags like shit or downgrades the video playback quality from my exprience.
it doesn't statistically look to be impacting, but ig I should try without server running
both
is this issue just because my old PC kinda limited the GPU so it didn't max out perhaps? or does this boil down to windows 11?
this boils down to you doing a fucking lot
check hwinfo or some overlay to see if ur gpu is being maxed out
I mean it's not being completely stuck 100%
because ur atp just automatically shifting the blame to microsoft for no reason at all lmfao
3d is, hence why it's causing jankery
i didnt even see his pic lol
I mean it's kinda the difference I have between these 2 systems, the OS
sux to be you with a 4060 user with a 115w power draw 
yeah you’re just out of gpu
115w is nothing xd
you can disable hardware acceleration in firefox or cap the framerate
hardware is peaked out
"Guys its win11 i swear"
kids these days, fast to blame the wrong thing and refusal to do any sort of research
i play my games with a capped framerate so i can watch tv shows on my side monitor
bill gates threatened to shoot my dog if i didn’t upgrade to 11
dont you mean kristi noem
nah it was a personal matter
guys, it's just immature to clank down on me, it's a genuine learning moment I must've not maxed out my GPU on old PC
dis the part where u go into a bar and kill 3 of their employees inside with a pencil
sorry for asking ig, but I will look at just not having the videos be hardware accelerated
Dogs being alive is a personal matter to Noem 
you can reduce gpu usage without hurting latency by enabling VRR/Gsync, enable Vsync in CS2, and turn down your graphics settings in CS2
or… just tune the CS graphical settings down
guys, which monitor do you recommend for cs with a budget of 150€?
michael i gotta buy a new monitor later
cs kids are pouring in oh no
should i jump to 4k or just grab a cheap side monitor
CS and valorant kids are the same thing just different flavours
the gl83a develops image retention if i leave something up for 5 minutes now
unusable
ew
i think 4k240hz monitors still cost more than you’re willing to spend, and the w-oled options are all 32”
if 4k240 is like $900 still then probably yeah
i was thinking of getting that miniled 1440p display
miniled gaming monitors are a meme don’t bother
I mean yeah that's probably what I will end up doing, just sucks my new system can't handle it, wanted to check if there was a bug or something known with the factors that actually have changed with my system. I have studied computers in school and I'm not dumb, just did a lapse of judgement and didn't consider GPU being an issue, but the difference is my current system can actually max it out probably.
miniLED monitors rn are still a complete joke tbh
smeary motion, blooming, poor uniformity, forced dynamic contrast post processing,
yada yada
so cheap ips side panel sounds like the move then
probs
Do not connect me to them CS kids 😭
even valorant can be somewhat GPU eating if you just turn every graphical setting to the max lmfao
yeah smuckers oled is still 900
I mean, I don't play valorant, but like the real issue is probably my current PC actually letting my GPU max out, and thus the bottleneck which kinda should've been obvious, just needed a second look at the issue tbh.
do you know if being below native refresh rate can cause it more often or am i falling for boomer ai slop
i usually do my homework on the other pc so it’s pinned at 60hz
cause what more often?
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using the new 4th gen 1440p280hz woled panel
though this actually did get me wondering about putting the GPU back in my old system, I want to see if my suspicion is right, it's really fun to just tinker around, but also going to try not running my server, because honestly task manager is not the most reliable and might not be reflecting my actual usage on that certain task
being unemployed after graduation really does give one a lot of time to tinker with meaningless stuff 💀
image persistence
the moodle ux is currently burnt into my side monitor
new drivers ready
I like my grape monitors

mouth breathers
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and a new NVApp update
god finally
Yay I love getting ads for AI dating apps on YT
is 850w enough for a 5080 (corsair rm850x)
yes
ofc
thanks
More than enough
Very good unit also. IS it 2024?
I actually did a check on this, this was my old PC, however it was running a lighter game on the CPU, but still maxing GPU that does have the lag issue on the newer system still but no issues on the older system. I will have to check my software differences like web browser or potential settings, it may be possible that my old PC that is actually on chrome is using CPU encoding for the web browser without me knowing. Thanks for the input though, I'd have to keep looking on my new system on solutions
yup i made sure its 2024
the one with the compact 600w 16 pin right
display but flickers or just flickers without display tho?
No display on the monitor
But the built in flickers
It's 2015 one not the silicon one
This one
@brisk jolt since you also looked some at my original problem, my old PC did have hardware acceleration on chrome so they used the same thing for playback, yet one was smoother. Know about any known bugs? Couldn't really find any issues that were that similar to my case when googling because obviously I'm not some kid that went here with 0 research like some assumed, I just need a new view at my issue
yeah ig that makes sense, most cases that's the reaction when you write a lot of text about the issue 😆
Help pls
I haven't seen an ad on YouTube in forever with premium
no bueno
and you never will
What
if i'm at my parents place and my dad has Youtube on the TV, ads start playing.. and they just accept it
it was right there Guilty
Well minus the ones that are built into videos... The Perkins builder brothers are really getting daring with them.
dammit, didn't think of that one
I did just recently use...
is the adapter known to work? also tried unplugging a few times, both VGA end and HDMI end, I have aone that was crazy spotty
Ok so turns out apple as the sob they are won't supply enough power to the hdmi port so i ahev decided.
MDP to dp on monitor
For mac
I will say.. having gone 24 hours in one playthrough and still not 100 in kh2 final mix... I don't think I'll end up finishing it.
The audio desync in some areas is bad .
Pc and console to the splitter and then hdmi to vga and then vga to the monitor
Ouch, the TV ads are crazy long too
ah yeah, that could do it
actual boomers, just accustomed to there being "commercials" on TV
Plus I'm not down with the remaining.. 30 bosses 4 tournaments ,1 collectible ,30 or so items to synthesise and all the gosh darned mini games.
I just can't bring myself to pay for YT
Yeah so I'm using the MDP to dp cable that my dad's company gave. The MDP cable is plugged into the tb2 port
And that's not even counting all the gummi missions.
I can honestly be fine with some ads, but youtube TV ads are another level
Just get an adblocker mate. But idk if it works 😊
I mostly watch YT on my iPad
i'll gladly pay for not dealing with adblockers for youtube. what a headache
i also watch way too much youtube and don't pay for cable TV
so i justify it
I also don't have to pay for spotify
i think it works out
I pay for Apple Music and Prime, those are my subscriptions
i forget about Prime.. thats how they get ya
Ive got prime, netflix, and disney+/hulu/hbo combo deal
paying for streaming 👎
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ASRock motherboards have been killing AMD CPUs all year, and in particular, the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPUs. The mystery has been unsolved for 9 months now (and remains unsolved), but ASRock and AMD are both investigating, as are we. In theory, they should find an answer before ...
ah fuck I still have to fix my F1 movie damn it
This probably pains him
Wendel maybe, who seems to have some sort of good relationship with Asrock
I'm not actually expecting a ton from this video. Steve was talking on /r/AMD last week about this upcoming video and it sure didn't sound like they had anything concrete
the quote I remember was AMD has the resources to figure this out, Asrock probably has the resources to figure this out. But no one is doing it.
Is there any conclusion as to what's causing it
Like I said, i doubt it. Video is 16 minutes old
and 50+ minutes long
hopefully something but as of last week it didn't sound like they knew of any smoking gun
Tbh, it's possibly just reddit hysteria again.
whats wild is how jank GN storage is for their raw footage
techtubers couldn’t even figure out that voltage spikes = degradation on raptorlake so i’m not expecting fruitful investigation
is it bad? I didn't get to it
can't possibly be any worse than what Jay came up with
Reddit is worse. They misidentify issues in ways that make no sense and get shit locked down for everyone with their complaining
Mfs wouldn't shut up about their smooth brain soc voltage bs and now it's locked to a low limit
When it did nothing
That was the Level1 vid - bro is running like a chenbro host with freenas/truenas with failed disks
1.3vsoc isn’t low xd
(until the other day it seems)
was that the existing setup they were going to replace?
buddy wants 35W SOC to run 200MHz more on memory for no reason
Jays was low end but at least it, presumably, didn't house his whole business in a degraded state
Yeah
And scales to more than that
well at least there is that...
IMHO 1.3vsoc is a scapegoat
if AMD locked it then surely AMD investigated it and isn’t just going off of what random kids on reddit said
I ran 1.3 vsoc on a 7950X for like eons without a single issue, I was running 6400-6800 1:1
I've heard from numerous Youtubers even large ones that they don't keep shit after its edited and uploaded.
It wasn't even an issue. Reddit just bitched about the real issue not being the issue because they wanted it to be their smooth brain theory.
Yeah thats fine but this was his A-reel "needs to be edited yet" shit lol
oh
i mean didn’t the 7800x3ds largely stop exploding after the voltage clamp
Steve was like "A lot of my investigation/interviews that only I am privy to ard on this"
Cool so replace your fucking failed disks my lord
The whole basis of reddits theory was "old io die was only safe at 1.3v or under so new one being allowed to go higher must be issue"
dudes with turd bins r mad that they can’t slam 1.4vsoc to get 3200UCLK to work anymore
that last part is funny given.. yeah
@shell void who gains from some metric that doesn't even cause issues being locked down because some kids on reddit wanted to larp about identifying an issue?
Nobody
i highly doubt AMD locked it solely because kids on reddit said to
They did so for pr
you could just run the old microcode to test the theory if you want
Steve joked "Yeaaaaah 'zpool status... degraded' so..." and Wendell was like yeah I am here to fix that today
Same reason they have their boosting algo act so cautious with vrms temps
I have a theory....
a game theory?
Not because amd doesn't get that MOSFETs on a vrm aren't a CPU and don't have the same thermal range, but because it shuts kids on reddit up.
their boosting is too aggressive IMO because it scares me to see 1.45-1.53vcore out of the box on R9s
Have we considered pins making contact and shorting or otherwise oxidization/resistance build up ON the pad/pin interface?
Response it very long but this is the summary from Gemini https://g.co/gemini/share/6084ff29ef8c
I just talked a storage team down from chasing ghosts
"We see ATS Heartbeat SCSI sense codes in logs"
OK ... how often? "Like... a lot.... 15 in the last hour"
so you see 15 heartbeat IOs failed/dropped out of..... bazillions?
"Yes! This could be a huge issue!"
These dudes chase like 0 - .5 dropped packets per minute
perspective is key
imagine this but they're customers
This is exactly where I am going
stop dropping my packets bozo
and trying to explain that a few dropped packets here and there isn't an outage
Dumb consumers ruin tech tbh
"Yes but we had a datastore go offline"
Implement some error correction systems and its no issue
So you have 15 dropped packets across 1000+ ESXi hosts and one LUN went offline and you think its a prolific error we need to make a config change for?
are we still ranting that amd won’t let us blow up our chips with 1.5v vsoc
shit happens
tangentially
Can I state something else that is seemingly lost on people?
honestly that Gemini summary is pretty good.
but i need 3300uclk on my salvation army 7700x bro
AMD provides AGESA which can be thought of as like firmware for the CPU...
The MB manufacturers do not code/modify/etc. the AGESA - they don't have the ability
i’ll boot that 6800 setup socket smoke be dammed
What's wild about the people who karened that shit into being locked down, is they didn't realize the issue was on the main core die, was caused by it drawing a ton of current and dying and melting the socket, and had nothing to even do with the die that's using that voltage
ASRock vs. ASUS "BIOS" is just software that works around the framework of AGESA
VSOC: Despite ASRock's denial, BIOS 3.25 did change the SOC voltage behavior. The later BIOS 3.40 further contradicted ASRock's original stance by explicitly adding a fixed voltage setting and adjusting VDDCR SOC parameters to enhance CPU stability
You can change voltage
bro i'm on like 2.x
wasnt it expo that set the weird voltages on zen 4
but you can't like "change voltage bad"
with no plans to change unless I have to
Its just like how you can't make a B58 run 85 psi of boost - the hardware is, ultimately, limited
like you’d have a crap ram kit that just set 1.4 down the line
updoot IMMEDIATELY
The BIOS updates do two things - A) it updates AGESA B) it sets defaults
considering sleep is working reliably on my tomahawk im not updating the bios till zen 6 x3d or something major changes
That's nothing - my Apex boards
did you actually run each one though
Anyone know if the G502X is worth upgrading to? I have the G502 Hero and it's basically on it's last leg, should I upgrade to the 502X or just get a new 502 Hero?
yes
i was doing that shit every week it seemed like
you get real tired of setting it back up again
Its kind of an OCD thing for me
ohh ok ok i see, yeah that I totally get
logically why do you need them all saved locally and meticulously organized? no one knows but i understand if its a thing you wanna do lol
Well when I flash my settings (from txt file, not CMO) and its LESS stable I go backward
Want to know the even more insane part/
Dual BIOS - so I save the tune to CMO, flash the BIOS to the version that CMO file came from, apply it to secondary
then I update primary BIOS, which results to defaults, and then apply settings again by reading a txt file (should not apply via CMO in case they change the file layout)
but that way I can flip the switch and go back
I hate hp
just out of curiosity can you explain this CMO? and how you manage settings with a text file?
I canceled a print and now it's permanently stuck in my notifications on my phone because they instead had their app tell my phone it's canceled because no paper
i'm always weary of reapplying settings across versions.
ASUS Strix/etc. support dumping settings to TXT or CMO
When it's canceled because I hit the cancel button
TXT is what it sounds like - CMO is a "BIOS Save Game"
but CMO from 1605 should not be applied to 1715 because the actual fields can change, enter TXT file
Ohh, ok so thats what I needed. Yeah the "save profile" feature I can dump to a USB drive
ya and it saves in two formats
and that right there has been my worry
fields changing, options being added/removed
oh shit ok you're like really crazy with it, had no idea
after you tune memory and shit for like.... 48 hours
and the board will accept just the txt file?
oh
CMO is a binary file that you can upload but only if you are SURE the BIOS hasn't changed fields/etc.
so like when I'm real lazy and take pictures of the screen with my phone but more.. elegant
More documented because there could be some tertiary menu I forgot to screenshot, etc.
always is..
my board won't report any changes i made in the amd common bios area
the screenshot feature in the BIOS is an option too
so i have 2 profiles on the board so i don't have to dig through it again for my nitro settings
yeah that screen won't show up for me in the changes list
but the board does dump that to a text file, so at least you get that
I dump the CMO and TXT just in case
frankly, even better than the screenshot method. i wonder if I can do that
Yeah its way better than screenshot
I'd have to look
Don't ahve to like scroll the window or sub menu
i've used the screenshot before but it's kinda a pain
Can also CTRL+F the TXT
I do screenshots only to share on forums/etc.
My career has made me borderline insane with firmware/settings/scripting
understandable
"We think we saw this in ESXi 8.0 Update 2b"
"no, we didn't"
Enter my insane tracking of every device firmware version, BIOS, settings, config, ansible runbooks, kickstart files... lol
@edgy laurel you know what bugs me about ASRock though/
I like... couldn't not think about it
Like did they do some sort of regression testing/
prior to 2.13 is 2.09, and its pulled
why did it go pulled 2.09, 2.13 to 2.17 and then back to 2.15
Did a dev pull 2.13 or 2.09 (which is pulled) to derive 2.15?
AHHHH I CANT SLEEP
msi does that too
this is what keeps you up at night
they pulled like 3 bioses in a row for my tomahawk
you have no idea
that doesn't make any sense, i can't say i've seen that
i've seen releases pulled and just missing but not like that..
like maybe they pulled 2.15 then added it back later but at the top of the list?
I dunno
"Hmmm I wonder what either of these would do?"
i started alice in boredeland
i'm so far behind. 2.06 beta still.
To be honest, this looks less painful than what I and my cybersecurity class have to deal with for an exam, which involves trying to make a "web UI" version of ClamAV attempt to scan 200 files for one that's sus, but you can't do all of them at once or even drag n' drop.
is this a good 1440p build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/798fwY
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, Radeon RX 9060 XT, Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower
yes probably
So you either do all of them one at a time or you figure out a good terminal automation command to upload all of them in sequence to be checked in order to find the infected file's hash value... Which is also not guaranteed to work because also the host for that "ClamAV-Web" is also weirdly touchy, so it gets frustrating to even get it to connect.
ok is the psu good
And before you wonder "well why not just install ClamAV directly to the local environment", various permissions for doing so was disabled in the environment, so even that was a no go.
it's fine
ok
B+ rated, not a fire hazard
so how is everyone at the moment
cat in the hat
maybe W890 will actually launch?
intel i5 2400
MSI MPG 274URDFW E16M considering cancelling my order for mine i heard there is 2 monitors like it? and at better prices is this true?
considering cancelling pre-orders because the release of the monitors in the uk is all over the place, websites say october but no exact date or week
ha @edgy laurel I forgot I had this script running -- the datahoarder in me
Aren’t the ultra light mice better for everything?
are you pulling down BIOSes for boards you don't even own?
because their FTP is laid out by socket lol
ohh
only useful slide
EXPO is 1.19
only thing you need to know
So if tuning your shit, vsoc on ASRock is 1.19 "default"
not default default
but normal people default
I wouldn't know, i just like the amount of buttons on the G502, but the actual button mechanism sucks, i heard the G502X has better buttons
I'm open to equivalent mice, i just don't know what to look for
you find the other buttons comfortable to use?
might be the first person i've met that uses them
No idea. I've used my G502X for longer than most mice, and I used to switch a lot.
I mean, i don't use the DPI buttons all that much but i use the forward and back buttons, i like binding minor actions to them in games
In Halo i use them for grenades, in PAYDAY i use them for grenades and weapon bipods
i think i use all the buttons except for the dpi up and down buttons
is that your main piece
I have a 502X on my rig, but my kid bought a superlight pro X on his and I really like it.
It’s like 50 grams, really responsive.
yeah man, though like with anything textured plastic.. the palm area is starting to get shiny
once that bothers me enough i'll probably get another one
have you tried a s uperlight
imagine not having a monitor screen on your mouse, big L. Friendly Regards, Microsoft Sidewinder.
My old steelseries mouse had an LCD but all it could do was display black and white images
Microsoft sidewinder can only display the chosen DPI in black text on red background, pretty sure 
I remember when i was a kid i really wanted a Mad Catz R.A.T. mouse
It had an unecessary record button for recording your macros on the fly also
Obivously you record your macros in the mouse software
I jumped & layed down mid air & aimed with 1 button press on Battlefield
I thought this was the coolest thing since like sliced bread when i was a kid, i've still never seen one in person
I see Turbo Teen.
My Microsoft Sidewinder keyboard prerecord buttons, I just use to flame the enemy team
"Nice try" on 1 press hotkey after I killed someone 
skoda
Oh, I saw someone on LAN with that mouse
I liked my bigger fan = better, El diablo case on LAN, blind the enemy with LEDs before it was cool. 
at least there was a physical button to turn of the LEDs, & also a physical button to turn of the fans/change fan speeds.
Does modern cases have a button to turn off all the LEDs in the PC? I don't think so. 
I miss my first PC case
My first desktop PC was a sleeper, it had like an old solid steel case that was so strong you could sit on it
Best cases
had a floppy drive too, but wasn't plugged in
The biggest issue is that we couldn't find any modern fans that fit it, so we had to use old fans my friend had lying around so it sounded like a jet plane every time it was under the slightest load
I have a video lying around of me starting it up
exactly, only bad thing about old cases
120mm does not fit by standard
How are the whole like mice with the holes feel compared to the mice without them on the hand. I'm debating on getting a wireless one but I'm not sure. As I don't really need a lot when it comes to a mouse just wireless with decent range, right left and the a forward and back button and. Ascroll wheel.
Also there is no built in dust filter, gotta buy & mod them there urself onto the fans
i miss that case so much, i returned it to my friend when i got my second desktop and he's since gotten rid of it
My second case was this
ngl, i miss cases that supported internal CD ROMs
It has a whole ass GTX 770
I reused the GTX 770 on my second desktop cause i was unemployed and my whole PC was funded by grandma
My 3rd desktop which is still the one i use today has a GTX 1080 Ti
Nvidia Uploaded this video themselfs to their website once upon a time 
Man, this looks as dated as.. well.. the date on the video
Oh shit i remember the GPU hair dryer skit
I love the missing I-frames
Random Interwebs image find.... Vaguely interesting:
Are all motherboard VRMs the same?
The short answer is no.
VRM power stages generally come in three types: P-PAK (Discrete MOSFETs), DrMOS (Driver + MOSFETs), and SPS (Smart Power Stage).
P-PAK is usually found on entry-level boards, offering the lowest efficiency, weaker transients, and limited current support, though it is the cheapest.
DrMOS integrates components into a single package, greatly improving efficiency, transients, and current handling, but at a higher cost.
SPS adds calibrated current sensing on top of DrMOS, allowing better phase balancing, lower heat, and the highest current support with the lowest transients, but it is also the most expensive.
This is why two boards with the same “8-phase VRM” design can still differ greatly depending on component quality. For most builds, the best value comes from pairing your CPU with a VRM that can handle its power needs efficiently, while the highest-end VRMs only matter when pushing top-tier CPUs under heavy load.
Is the existence of different VRMs exciting or surprising? Not in the slightest.
Is the idea that the "good" vrm's can do more than double the power delivery of the crap ones a little surprising?
To me, a lil bit.
is it fair to assume these non p-pak vrms are less prone to coil whine
DrMOS is clearly the best because they're a doctor
Did your mom send you this one on facebook?
LOL nah. Mitch is was one of my all time favorite comedians.
George carlin's easily my top 3
Oh they're great too. Especially when it comes to political / societal satire.
Right??
Would you expect high-end GPUs to use ppak vrm's? Cuz those still whine frequently
also Dennis Leary
With the the sheer volume of power modern GPUs can do yeah I'd say so
"I'm high as a kite, and my teeth are green! Merry Fuckin' Christmas!"
you think thats loud, you should hear my little ai server XD
this with fans not at 100%
thats my point
iv heard them too
my GPU capable servers are something with their noise
mine are loud, just not server rack loud (I would not use it if it was) XD
i have noise racks for a reason
I dont have a reason to have a stupid amount of compute rn. I do have a rack computer but it has no use rn besdies networking configuring
Is powercolor a good GPU brand?
not seen u here for such a long time
That’s a lot of noctua but peaceful hum lol.
i like notua ippc fans
um that doesnt seem right.
that is my server pc, it has a single minecraft server running, no one on it currently.
I have Fan Control, Parsec, MC Server Soft(MC Server manager thingy) HWmonitor, Task Manager and Ryzen Master open, (I just opened ryzen master to set the speed to 3.8GHz and the voltage to 1.25V to try and cool it down a little and it did, but its still running at 60c
thats on you, ive been moderately active
well not here
Part of me is thinking about getting the gen2 fans but I’ll wait lol
New build is gonna be noctua though
get the gen3s?
Let the white name speak 🗣️🗣️
i have 5 a12x25s in my system and they're nice
us pricing is kinda cooked rn though, they're like $40/fan
lol price will be cooked for some time.
i kind of want the noctua 5090 gpu
wait was it 5080 or 5090 i cant recall
either way it from testing i saw on youtube is so quite
kind of want one to test it
sybau
alright who let the kids out
You mean who let them in.
TC2 is inside, while TC1 is insideout.
straw being a bish ass
And you’re just meeting him in the middle, right?
Anyway, @merry stirrup keep your eyes out https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/3N0dQKZ3oV
Would be sick if they are all i7 8700 pcs
sounds good
Floopa would lose it at my work
I don't know the first thing about it, but our depot/service desk people have like 3 - 4 5' tall bins filled with like 10th gen shit
10th Gen 
skylake 4eva
10th Gen is modern thanks to Intel rebadged 10400
i love me some 14nm waste
Well the 10th is mixed with 11th gen
They buy exclusively all i9s
And now they're in a scrap pile on the loading dock
why did they do that?
im assuming intel is just back on that old socket now?
For bank IT work?
They released the brand new core 5 120
Its a 10400 with a new box
Are they also dells that throttle so hard it performs like a i7
Uhh?
Didn't you work for bank transactions or something
Oh
They only buy i9/equiv or the Max/ultra mbp
I work in the medical side of IT
like clinics and drug stores
under a single company
My mom works at a hospital and they changed from 3 major apps at the same time and are now fucked because the software company over promised
we work with a software company that is incompetent and we have weekly outages since their entire software is from the 70s thats been kept up with mediocre patches
The hospital also went without power for a few hours because the generators couldn't communicate with some servers or something
lol
Then a few days later they had my dad that's the hospital plumber baby sit the generators
Looks like he is holding in his pee
Snail have u ever met celebrity
For the girls in front
yeah
You just had to be there coopa
Who
ur mom
Himself
Ima celeb
caleb
Bob Dole
Tf is that
Hi I'm Bob Dole
that sure is a person, and a person I know not of
what happened to his thumb
He gave the thumbs up for like 102 years
Back in his day they did thumb promises not pinky promises
it takes its toll
too many thumb wars
bro todays youth surrender in even a thumb war
lmao
"who are you?"
I said, "Sup Bob"
What the sigma happened to your thumb
"Your're"
What’s usa senate
You are thumb?
your are thumb*
Wait second r
XD
Its where grown adults go to play thumb war
USA gov so evil n corrupt
Yeah we should really lock our citizens in their houses and arrest them for posting online
The usa gov should gift me a vacation house for the summer
you and like 70M people think that
No only me
whats goin on?
Snail
hi
Never mind
ok
So what did ASRock do now
nothing different
GN just needs money so they made an hour long video about "the same old thing"
Sorry they only pay for rich people to get their beach homes rebuilt after natural disasters
sigh
So I'll miss nothing by skipping a 51:32 rant on ASRock
Actually the rich people are preventing any people from rebuilding their houses in California
It's basically a long video showing what they tested as a tool for other people to find out what's wrong
I used to watch all of Gordon’s shows
and then concluded that vsoc is like 1.19v and ..... that isn't whats ruining CPUs
now it can be played in discord
now I need to see the original
My costco sold out in less than a day
https://www.theverge.com/games/787849/lego-nintendo-game-boy-review
how many terabytes is practical per SSD?
depends
that is such a vague question
am i missing a significant amount of context?
no i guess i'm just being vague
consumer drives max out at 8tb
I was thinking of having 1 TB for my OS disk, and then i was thinking of having 2 to 3 additional SSDs for other storage like games and photographs and video footage for my eiditing side gig or such and such
I was wrong, there are technically some 16tb models
i was also thinking of having a large HDD for "dead storage" basically data i won't access every day
Ultra 5 225F is $174 on Amazon
is a scratch disk still a thing for video editing
i have no idea actually
It was last time i edited a full length video cause i was using like.. adobe premiere from 2012
but now i've moved on to Dacinci resolve which stores almost no data in the project file
I think your best price per gig is in the 2tb realm
i see
i use a 2tb for OS + photo library
never heard of this
A scratch disk is a portion of a computer's hard drive or SSD used by applications like Adobe Photoshop as temporary storage for data that doesn't fit in the system's RAM that explains why 10+ GB does goes into the eather when i launch photoshop and comes back when i close it
discord nitro knockoff
Discord stole their idea fr
interesting
800$ on ebay damn
sas tho
seagate brand SSDs give me the heeby jeebies
How do i check the max config of a chipset? I'm not sure if the motherboard i picked out can have all its M.2 and S-ATA ports used silmultaneously, at least i was told that could be something to consider
The motherboard specifications page on the manufacturer website should say. Or check the manual.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HvNKwY first time putting together a list by myself, anything I should change? I already have the cpu and monitor. I also already have the ram, but its just the normal green, which I dont think would look very good.
Part List - Intel Core i5-7500, Radeon RX 6600, Okinos Aqua 3 MicroATX Mini Tower





