tech-chat-2

[turbid locust]

your cpu will idle at like 5W if actually idle

[steel stream]

wallpaper engine :(

[turbid locust]

and wallpaper engine is probably 70W of that 80

70W for moving wallpaper lmao

I tried wallpaper engine once and almost instantly refunded it cause the anime filter didn’t work

[steel stream]

I'm not looking at my wallpaper enough to have it be something that crazy

[turbid locust]

this review sums my experience up

[steel stream]

you want an anime wallpaper so badddddd

[turbid locust]

I want raptorlake die shots

not bouncing anime tiddies

priorities bro

[shell void]

im a multitasker

[steel stream]

no fritzchens fritz?

[pure garnet]

i might need to set a fan curve

800rpm static is giving me 80c in games atm

[shell void]

im trying out apple music and it's still not a viable spotify alternative for people that are often using windows

[turbid locust]

80c is fine

[shell void]

this windows app is hot garbage

[turbid locust]

REAL

[shell void]

80c is just normal 7800x3d behavior

[pure garnet]

at like 50w on a 360 aio it's just wild

[turbid locust]

but Spotify’s windows app is also dogshit

[pure garnet]

it was like 65c on the d15s

[wraith steeple]

AM5 being AM5

[turbid locust]

I use YouTube music on pc in a browser tab

[shell void]

i have no problem with this

[turbid locust]

bugged out for me constantly when I was using it

[steel stream]

yeah it's not the greatest, but I like my AM

[shell void]

the lossless is cool but the windows app is legitimately garbage

i know theyre not a pro-windows company but geez

[turbid locust]

like almost daily had to sign out and sign back in to stop the fuckin thing from skipping through my entire library on its own

[shell void]

i just ported my spotify library over and downloaded it in lossless

[steel stream]

what are your qualms with it? I haven't used spotify pc in ages so I am curious

[shell void]

it's super sluggish, and i have to relaunch the app everytime i change output devices

the ui is also ugly and unintuitive

but the sluggishness and needing to reboot are bothering me most

[steel stream]

yeah the app relaunching is so assssssss

[shell void]

i had to relaunch after signing in too lol

and then relaunch after signing in a second time to authorize this pc

every time the app launches it takes like 10 seconds for my playlists to pop in

and then in iOS you have to go in your general settings app to change apple music settings which makes no sense

[turbid locust]

browser Apple Music was alright but still not good

[steel stream]

this was a recent change, i think when iOS 26 public beta came out it got super slow

but yeah, it's not great

[shell void]

basically
pros: audio quality
cons: using it sucks

[wraith steeple]

Been using YT music lately

[steel stream]

so worth it 🗣️ (Spotify just got 24bit 44.1KHz)

[shell void]

yeah i dont think im gonna switch over to AM

the 320Kbps in Spotify doesnt bother me anyway because music is usually background noise

[steel stream]

one of the big reasons I got Apple Music is because back then I could bind shuffling my playlist to the triple back tap or action button and that was just a neat thing for me

but wait, what about Dolby Atmos music? michael you are missing out on that /s

[shell void]

but AM has this 🗣️

everytime i see that cover art i think of the edit of Tim's (monitors unboxed) face on it

i cant unsee this

yeah i just clicked pause on that song and it took like 3 seconds to pause

this isnt usable

just tried to drag it and it stuttered

[steel stream]

ok I haven't seen that happen to me yet

[shell void]

well that's a shame i wanted to give it a second chance and it flopped face first

[steel stream]

typical Apple program

[shell void]

meh oh well ill just cancel the 3 month trial near the end

[steel stream]

just gaslight yourself into liking it over the next 3 months

[shrewd gale]

yeah i have wallpaper engine on 😭

[steel stream]

@turbid locust bro what is this dude doing

[shrewd gale]

that one guy crossing the twin towers on a tightrope:

[pure garnet]

im convinced the pre installed corsair thermal paste is awful

[wraith steeple]

Having an existential crisis and contemplating life choices

As with wondering how he got to this point

...

Bro in the pic really is me FR

[steel stream]

he just keeps jumping off and going for some skatepark like 500 meters below him

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

thuggin

[wraith steeple]

Has anyone ever been so sleep deprived that you feel like that you're not physically there

Or can't tell if you're awake, hallucinating, or dreaming?

[edgy laurel]

only after not sleeping, which is incredibly rare

[fervent elm]

Mm disassociation

[young void]

Yolo, mans about to send it

[turbid locust]

I’ve been so sleep deprived I felt hungover before

[random flame]

Oh no, but would you wish you were dreaming if you saw a robot do this?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-0aZ2TmrsX8

[scarlet iron]

Moshi moshi femboy-san

[whole coral]

Nope

I have had sleep paralysis though

Sleep paralysis is terrifying.

[fringe vigil]

tf

[heavy mantle]

I need ya wisdom @young void

[young void]

Ohmmm

Voost rava

Mayhaps

[heavy mantle]

So i instated the waterblock on my 2080ti, and when i came to run it, it didn’t boot, well i did a couple should i say didnt do stuff, it has a 240mm aio on it and i didnt plug the pump in nor the fans on the pump, tho the fan on the gpu itself i didnt plug plug in, so you think the card didnt boot as it got hot super fast and thats why or is it done for,

Thanks!

[young void]

Could be id certainly power the pump and fans give another try

[heavy mantle]

Ah you think thats the case?

[young void]

If cpu fan/pump header isnt populated that'll give a warning sometimes so possible

[heavy mantle]

I mean the system on my test bench did turn on, thats a big jumo from other dead cards i tried on it and the system didnt turn on

Ohh

And it would shut itself off so it would not die then

[young void]

Curious but worth messing with

[heavy mantle]

Ok ok thankss

[rotund rock]

where is yes

[fringe vigil]

Loool

[young void]

Wishing lucks waterss

🍀 🐛

[young void]

Show more details mayhaps

Or your logged in under a non admin account if multiple users maybe

Also myte find it under windows defender under its blocked list

Also could right click and run as admin if on an applicable acc. i believe in youu

[rigid orchid]

Is it safe to leave a tv at 100% brightness?

[fringe vigil]

not if oled

[rigid orchid]

For qled?

[fringe vigil]

fine

[edgy laurel]

its not safe to turn it on

my OLED has been at 100% pixel brightness now for 11k hours

[shell void]

this is really just confirming my anti-dGPU in laptops bias

big APU reigns supreme

[steel stream]

panther lake will save us all

[shell void]

intel had to go ahead and tease me with the possibility of intel+nvidia laptop APUs

[steel stream]

yeah I am really curious what that partnership will bring

Xe APUs for battery life, NVIDIA APUs for performance?

[shell void]

me and the homies picking up titan lake + feynman apu laptops

[steel stream]

🗣️ 🔥

[shell void]

[steel stream]

As long as Xe stays in some way (which i am sure it will) I am happy

[shell void]

i put my b580 back in its box because it was a redundant bowl

i no longer have Xe in service

[steel stream]

I've got my iGPU and an A380 in use right now

my brother still has not swapped out the B580 for the 4070 so I can't use it in my homelab

can't wait for NVL so I can put A380, B580 and ARL all in one system, trifecta of Xe archs

[shell void]

the celestial alchemist battlemage

[steel stream]

already just sounds baller af

if only they didn't axe deep link hyper encode

[indigo walrus]

This is why I leave my TVs off after I purchase them. They can't wear out or burn-in if they're off.

[edgy laurel]

Yup, if you're at all worried about burn in or degredation, better to just keep it off.

Only logical move

update, we did just hit 12k hours

[shell void]

that c2 is grey in the beard

[steel stream]

it's time to put down old yeller

[edgy laurel]

still feels new

[steel stream]

hopefully we get a 42" tandem soon

[pure garnet]

that is where i keep my a750 too

[fringe vigil]

mafia

[steel stream]

to keep it in pristine conidition surely

[pure garnet]

yeah i bought it just to play with and support the future ones

[hoary hatch]

Y'all's are arc h8rs

I use Intel graphics all day every day 💪

[steel stream]

the true king

[hoary hatch]

(UHD 770)

[pure garnet]

well yeah

[steel stream]

I've got UHD 770 in my truenas if that counts

[hoary hatch]

I lied
It's Intel iris Xe eligible

[steel stream]

huh

[hoary hatch]

I love using Excel on Intel Iris Xe Graphics eligible

1265U

[steel stream]

@turbid locust they need hall of meat in skate

[steel stream]

one of the experiences of all time

[fringe vigil]

diablo free weekend

[topaz veldt]

oh nice

[fringe vigil]

and pga tour ive downloaded it

[topaz veldt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-compares-core-ultra-200s-cpus-with-amd-ryzen-9000x3d-in-new-presentation

[livid flame]

Nah Intel has to be having a wind up

[merry stirrup]

MEOW

[fringe vigil]

nya

[brisk eagle]

how does the laptop 5050 outperform the desktop 5050

[livid flame]

1080p gaming resolution used and saying starfield is on par with the multiple Ryzen CPUs including the x3d and that it’s better than it also.

These are new graphs, not before release. It’s just barefaced lies 😂

[shell void]

5050 mobile is a better gpu than 5050 desktop sadly

[pure garnet]

you understand how cpu benches work right

why would they not test at 1080p

[shell void]

5050 mobile can get 8GB of GDDR7 whereas 5050 desktop is always G6

[brisk eagle]

the 5050 is truly something

[shell void]

if youre testing a 115W mobile 5050 then it can tie or beat the desktop variant

[livid flame]

I’m surprised they used 1080p tbh. I expected them to try and use a higher resolution to skew the results

[shell void]

idk why they bothered launching the 5050 desktop to the diy market

[livid flame]

But nah man. Those graphs are just barefaced lies.

[shell void]

it's barely cheaper than a 5060 but significantly slower and puts out a similar amount of heat

[livid flame]

Can’t throw out perfectly good silicon

Gotta make ewaste instead

[topaz veldt]

So I have a dude interested in this batch of RAM at over $4600 but he wants to meet vs. ship

[hoary hatch]

Should have been G7 and 75W limited

[whole lake]

.

[rich idol]

Any recommended PSU manufacturers? A friend of mine recommends SilverStone but i've also heard Corsair is alright

[hoary hatch]

They both make great, fine, and awful PSUs

[rich idol]

oh boy

[hoary hatch]

Always buy PSU by the specific model, not manufacturer

(that goes for any product, most companies are able to turn out absolute garbage and spectacular products)

[silver compass]

Depends on the model

Go on the psu tier list, corsair's rm-e psu's are b+ but their rm-x are A

[rich idol]

I was looking at the SilverStone HELA 1200R, but 1200 watts is overkill for my build so i stepped down to the SilverStone HELA 850R, i assume they're equivalents with different wattage since they're both called "HELA"

[silver compass]

Whats ur build?

Do u have a pc part picker list

[rich idol]

If you're referring to cultists.network psu tier list the 1200 watt HELA was listed there "gold"

Some of the parts will likely change, mainly the storage https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LMR_1/saved/jxzbkL

[wise bear]

I'm kinda disappointed in daves hot chicken tbh

like, the breading is okay and the crunchiness is good, but it's so greasy

Fries are pretty banger though, so's the coleslaw

[silver compass]

I reccomend u go for a 1000 watt here

The middle ground

Like a rm1000x

[rich idol]

the wattage calculators i've used say this build will use anywhere between 750 or 800 watts, figued 850 would be fine, as from what i can tell the wattage calculators count how much watt will be consumed if you absolutely max out the hardware

[silver compass]

I mean, a 7900 xtx does need a 850 watt psu minimum

[rich idol]

I'll probably be doing 1080p gaming at a capped 60fps

[silver compass]

I reccomend u get the 1000 watt, because I have a 750 watt psu with a 14900kf and a 4070s, defo not the best

[silver compass]

Then why get a 7900 xtx and 9800x3d? Is it going to be for work?

[wise bear]

That's plenty..

Dude if you're gonna give advice can you at least have it be good advice

[silver compass]

Doesn't explain me crashing in most of my games

[wise bear]

Dude doesn't need a 1kw psu

[rich idol]

because AAA companies stopped caring about game optimisation

[silver compass]

Oh fair enough

[pure garnet]

buying an xtx in 2025 is a choice

[rich idol]

I have a GTX 1080 Ti, most new game i couldn't run even if i wanted to

[pure garnet]

if you want radeon the 9070xt is right there

i’d get a 5070ti though personally

[silver compass]

400+ watts for the same performance as a 5070 ti

[pure garnet]

the xtx can’t actually run games at the settings the 24gn of vram would make a difference in

[rich idol]

Nvidia prices are actually batshit insane, i ain't paying for that

[pure garnet]

you paying $100 more for the xtx?

the 5070ti is $750, the xtx you linked is 870

[silver compass]

Its basically the best amd build u can get in 2025 why not spend 60 more dollars on 1kw

[pure garnet]

the barrage of ewaste ssds is also an interesting pick but i figure you have those already

[silver compass]

Its over 1000$ in my country

[edgy laurel]

oh no. those are my favorite 😆

[silver compass]

Nvidia prices are horrible here man

[wise bear]

might not be where they're at

[silver compass]

Safe to say it probably is

[pure garnet]

if you link a us list one is safe to assume it's us pricing

[wise bear]

Christ I wish you'd've stayed muted

[edgy laurel]

nv2 on the list.. excellent

[silver compass]

My pc part picker list is a us list, doesnt mean im from the us

[rich idol]

I do not have US pricing, i just used PC part picker to be able to share part list with non-scandinavian people

[silver compass]

My point

[edgy laurel]

wait hold up why is there a 9800x3D paired with those parts LMAO

[pure garnet]

list that keeps on giving

bin everything but the ram, cpu, and cpu cooler

[rich idol]

i said the storage was going to change most likely

[edgy laurel]

that RAM kit is absurd

2x32GB 6000CL30 w/ RGB is like $200, not $300

[rich idol]

my retailer of choice doesn't carry the non-rgb version

[silver compass]

1300 usd on a 5070 ti, put me out of this misery

[wise bear]

sooooo find a different model

[rich idol]

In an ideal world i could make a PC with similar specs at my local retailr with zero rgb

[silver compass]

First one that came up on google

[wise bear]

and that's your generation's problem.

[edgy laurel]

oh there are two people here, not sure who's list i'm looking at then

[rich idol]

only alternatives were these eyesores

[edgy laurel]

a-fucking-men

[pure garnet]

lmr has the list

the other one is just here to yap

[edgy laurel]

whoever listed the PCPP link didn't use the tools on PCPP to find something cheaper

[silver compass]

The 3rd one is 1600 usd 😔

[pure garnet]

30 seconds on amazon

i didn't even scroll

[rich idol]

I just put together the part picker list to share with people outside my region

[silver compass]

Ordering from Amazon isnt usually good, they jack up the delivery prices

Also that's 1000 dollars

[rich idol]

I'm not ordering from amazon, i'm ordering from a local retailer

[pure garnet]

we can't do anything without actual pricing or something to look at

the list is awful but any rec is wasted by obscuring it with pcpp

[rich idol]

All i did was ask for a PSU recommendation

I'm just gonna head out, i lost track of time, i have work in 3 hours and i haven't slept

[wise bear]

corsair rme 850w (2025 model)

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/0w6wUqWU3yU?si=T2ADjneijZmwAtmv

I love a trailer that shows you basically nothing but gets you really intrigued

[whole coral]

https://x.com/applesclubs/status/1971984200430694405?s=46

Apple Club (@applesclubs)

iPhone Packaging Boxes

2007: iPhone (1st Gen)
2025: iPhone 17 Pro

Which packaging do you like more — classic or modern?

X · Sep 27, 2025, 5:04 PM

[hoary hatch]

You can just turn off RGB

[devout ridge]

visually the new packaging is better, feature wise and what is included, the old packaging is miles better

[topaz veldt]

so what is it

[topaz veldt]

looks good

Its crazy sometimes how wide the stage is on my MBP speakers

[clear radish]

Hai 5mall5nail5

[topaz veldt]

whats up

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/4-non-blondes-whats-up-whats-going-on-gif-6696958339434307724

[topaz veldt]

Just ordered a replacement door for my bbq grill because my kiddo drove a 20 lb RC into it at like 20 mph

$300 down the drain

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel Cleetus put out a cool helicopter vid

[slim pebble]

I hope the RC is all right

[topaz veldt]

RC is fine lol

my $4500 barbeque grill though...

[slim pebble]

Poor kid probably felt bad enough! 😆

[topaz veldt]

lol he def didn't flinch

[lone scarab]

isnt that a bit overpriced for a bbq grill

[topaz veldt]

its a big grill

[lone scarab]

crazy

big family?

[topaz veldt]

normal family

[lone scarab]

oh wow

looks great

[indigo walrus]

I'm on my way over. Save a borger and half a cob.

[topaz veldt]

lol don't expect that, its from a few weeks ago

[indigo walrus]

What if I told you... I have a time machine?

[low sorrel]

why didn't you buy bitcoin

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-fair-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20762776

[thick frost]

old hardware can be complicated when your profession is in new hardware lol

my first time installing 95 (granted I’ve installed 98,me, and 2K)

[topaz veldt]

not even from floppy?

[tawny summit]

Ugh, I forgot how sordid laptop shopping is...

not that I'm helping myself much because my needs are weird

but still

and then there are these things

but really most thin-n-lites today (or since 2023) are gonna be a step up from what I currently got, which is this:

[thick frost]

God they still made dual core i5s in 2018

[tawny summit]

Right?

Transitioning to M1 is what got everyone else to shape up.

honestly if it wasn't for the fact that my workplace requires apps that are Windows--only

I'd have gone for a used or refurb M2 Pro MBP.

[lone scarab]

cant u install windows on mac

[tawny summit]

I ain't got time for dat

even if WinARM has been shown to run surprisingly well on Apple chips

I do know what I want, at least:

• minimum 16GB of RAM
• upgradable SSD slot
• minimum 13-inch IPS or OLED display
• 10 hours battery life ceiling (realistically even 7 hours is good for me)
• enough GPU to run every Trackmania title at 60fps medium
• thin and light
• minimum 720p webcam

but honestly that Chuwi laptop do be looking nice

[lone scarab]

check battery life

check it in yt review

[tawny summit]

Yup, searching them now

China OEM/ODM stuff might have some underrated answers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsesRhZuE_c

[wraith steeple]

أهلا وسهلا بحياتي

[rich idol]

Anyone know of any good GPU benchmark sites? Im currently using geekbench but that only shows OpenCL and Vulkan performance, but not DirectX, and idk if any of those are comparable to DirectX

[thick frost]

mmmm crunchy (this it working normally)

[south shuttle]

is it about to explode

[orchid frost]

Can somebody build me the BEST 1200$ pc they can build please- it's needed for gaming (DayZ MAX settings + discord screen sharing etc.- recording and clipping) (prefer Nvidia and a fish tank case)

[minor herald]

your in USA?

[orchid frost]

Yes 🖐️

[edgy laurel]

Gotta watch the second half, fell asleep

[thick frost]

We’re officially computing

I’m honestly surprised to cpu hasn’t killed itself as it has a heatsink but no fan

[rich idol]

Any good gpu benchmark sites you lot can recommend? I've only heard bad things about userbenchmark

[topaz veldt]

was a good one

[lone scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-rads-radiation-counter-gif-6369229076219259168

[dull bough]

TPU GPU database has a decent relative Performance Chart

[wraith steeple]

Internet Exploder 4

[thick frost]

What CD drive could possibly need a heat spreader and a thermal pad

8x speed Creative CD drive

Factory bodge wires, it’s so mid 90s

[gusty quartz]

95?

[thick frost]

ye

[gusty quartz]

I can’t remember, does opera still work on 95?

[thick frost]

Idk

[topaz veldt]

lasers get hot

[thick frost]

But it’s not on the laser

[topaz veldt]

is it on an opamp

[thick frost]

perhaps

[topaz veldt]

also that copper looks like shielding material

[thick frost]

Idk it looked like a thermal pad was under it and it was on a chip

One other chip had a thermal pad that just connects to the chassis

[livid flame]

Design taken straight out of that Alien ship that landed at roswell

[thick frost]

No idea what that means

[brittle trellis]

Someone needs to watch the X files, smh

[cerulean cosmos]

turgbo mode go vrum cpu clock go ⬆️

[livid flame]

You…. Don’t know about how we got all our technology?

[topaz veldt]

lol @edgy laurel my wife...

[livid flame]

That’s peak snobbery.

[topaz veldt]

She is flying down for 4 days to FL place and forgot the ones here, I can't blame her

[frank zealot]

The USA drawn from memory.

[livid flame]

Heh. I see trump by proxy is buying EA. Nice.

[topaz veldt]

make games good again

[livid flame]

That son in law doing him a solid

[fringe vigil]

What’s she texting you on chat gpt?

[steel stream]

nah bro that's teams

[fringe vigil]

Why she on teams

[steel stream]

to keep it professional duh

[fringe vigil]

That’s so not professional

[steel stream]

wdym

[edgy laurel]

this is one impressive wall pc

[livid flame]

Where’s the tanks

[brisk jolt]

holy

[steel stream]

damn, needs a a MORA

[livid flame]

That will impress me more

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-comedy-central-keegan-aaron-skit-gif-4842542

[steel stream]

bro it's one giant distro plate that shit is so impressive

that's gotta be custom

[edgy laurel]

willing to bet with all the liquid held in that distro plate + the rads, an additional res is unnecessary

[livid flame]

It’s cool and all

[edgy laurel]

looks like a project in which they did their homework

[livid flame]

I just know some crazy Mofo doing that’s gonna have like a 50l reservoir because they can

[steel stream]

yeah def enough liquid

[edgy laurel]

those o-rings lol

can you even call them that anymore

[livid flame]

I guess you have to just call them rubber seals

[pure garnet]

no ram block

[livid flame]

Imagine redoing that

[edgy laurel]

its a lot of work for parts that eventually you'll want to upgrade

[wise bear]

pls do not put def in your loop

[edgy laurel]

why I like watching these sorta builds from afar

[edgy laurel]

Oh, smart.

The GPU is held in place with 3D printed components (asa) and those can be remade to put a new card where it needs to be to match up with the distro. I'm also using short sections of soft tubing between the components and the distro so there is some wiggle room for adjustments. I don't think a future upgrade will be too bad

[steel stream]

this is a one and done

[steel stream]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[edgy laurel]

[steel stream]

yeah that's pretty dang smart

[shell void]

intel keynote on october 9th at semicon west

[steel stream]

fuckers got to go on a 18A tour without me

[shell void]

probably pantherlake launch and foundry news

[steel stream]

yeah

marked on my calendar already

[shell void]

supply drop inbound

[pure garnet]

what’s with all the budget fans

[shell void]

zen 4 user says what

[pure garnet]

arrow lake 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[steel stream]

the lebron of cpus 🙏

jk that'll be nvl

[brisk jolt]

wallahi p14 pros still havent dropped here

[pure garnet]

the tomahawk is a better rage baiter than michael

[livid flame]

“Our next generation of Intel chips on our new platform will include a 1050ti APU”

[steel stream]

what are all the fans for

[shell void]

i’m still rocking the old p14s

i have to consume you know

[pure garnet]

i need a reverse blade a14x25g2 chromax in like a decade

[steel stream]

oh fair

[shell void]

worse fan than p14 pro btw 🥀

[pure garnet]

sounds better tho

i have all my artic stuff in the h5 and all my nice stuff in the hyte

[steel stream]

I need some new noctuas for my AIO, but I don't think they have chromax a14x25g2

[brisk jolt]

a fourteen x twenty five g2 (tier 2 esports)

[pure garnet]

i have a 360 so i’m just using a12x25s

[shell void]

oh no

[steel stream]

420 🥀

[pure garnet]

my fishbowl too small for that

[topaz veldt]

Dude stop. I have already been eyeing up CNC routers.

[topaz veldt]

yayyyyyy air drop mid fans

[edgy laurel]

i'm just noticing how the gpu and motherboard compartment still get airflow in and out. well thought out

[thick frost]

⬇️

[wraith steeple]

This is running on empty

Foooood review

[topaz veldt]

I am currently wussing out and not drilling and tapping this distro plate my self. mailing it back to the guy who makes it for modification. I drilled/cut acrylic like 15 years ago and it was a disaster so until I have my own router for it, wimp mode.

[wraith steeple]

5nail

What is even going on in WCE?

[frank zealot]

drilling acrylic is very VERY easy to fuck up

[topaz veldt]

yep

[topaz veldt]

dude I dunno I ducked for a bit lol

[frank zealot]

And when you do fuck it up, it most likely destroys the entire piece you're working on

[topaz veldt]

exactly

I have a legit mill drill, but I don't feel like experimenting on a finished part

I dunno if this is cast or extruded which changes how it machines/drills a lot

[wraith steeple]

I see. I'm looking through it and seeing something about wood work and Designing..... I guess

Bro..... We have been getting some interesting folks lately

[cerulean cosmos]

💀

[topaz veldt]

bro wants a wall mount PC but was all "its a secret someone help me in private" and then posts literally parts screwed to wood like who cares bro buy a circular saw go to town

[topaz veldt]

I have been helping that guy Sae in DMs with his project

[thick frost]

That was the point of the turbo button, to downclock the chip

[frank zealot]

If you want a dope wall mounted PC:

Buy the 1600$ Bykski PC Mount and wall mount that fucker.

It looks awesome, but it's absolutely NOT worth the pricetag lol

[topaz veldt]

Nah that's not for me

I would draw something up and have my buddy laser cut it

[frank zealot]

https://www.bykski.us/collections/chassis/products/bykski-b-wctp-x-elevated-performance-water-cooling-showcase-station-support-for-dual-480mm-radiators-and-equipped-with-dual-advanced-pump-system

Like 1000% this looks awesome, but how the fuck is this 1600 bucks?

[wraith steeple]

5nail, we had someone use Mayhems Part 2 Blitz as their coolant one time.....

[topaz veldt]

The... cleaning solution?

[wraith steeple]

Yes

I wish I was joking

[topaz veldt]

my my

[frank zealot]

It's a steal! Buy 6!

[empty apex]

Anyone have and or use the TONOR TD510 if so thoughts and is it worth buying?

[thick frost]

It’s like when I got $20 off my Yeston 7800 XT

[frank zealot]

.... wtf? NVidia GPUs below MSRP?
What the hell is the world coming to, I haven't see this since... the 10? 20? series?

[steel stream]

life is good

[turbid locust]

on god

[turbid locust]

offloading for super refresh I’m assuming

brb trading my 5090 for a 5080 Super

[frank zealot]

I wouldn't expect a super refresh for.... at least 2-3 months, if not longer

[edgy laurel]

nope, but after 30 seconds of googling and clicking around, it seems like a lot of people have with plenty of written and video reviews

[turbid locust]

Which.. checks out entirely

[frank zealot]

but the last 2 gens of cards didn't do it for super releases, they stayed full price

[empty apex]

Ya I was just seeing if anyone had personal experience not just bought it or was sent it to make a review video and then not actually use it

[shell void]

art

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-word-gif-711844034390741016

[steel stream]

PTL?

Looks like less filler tiles

[turbid locust]

ASS

[steel stream]

unless that bottom left tile is a huge piece of filler

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperor's-new-groove-whoa-whoa-now-hold-on-gif-9462234456499179835

[turbid locust]

xbeezy

[steel stream]

Mac that kind of posting is only tolerated in TC1

[turbid locust]

tiddies.

[steel stream]

@ mod

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

I need >32” 4K 240Hz OLEDs to exist

[steel stream]

tandem OLED LG C series 🙏

[wraith steeple]

I mean there's a reason why we don't recommend this stuff (also please to anyone reading this, don't use it for your loop). Because the shit that's in it is aggressive as hell and most folks don't really know how to mix it properly (even with the pH testers supplied with them)

[turbid locust]

considering hooking my 27” 1440p 240hz OLED panel to play competitive games but idk how much I’d want to move it out of the way every time I wanted to play something chill lol

The size downgrade tho is gonna be rough

I need like… 38” 16:9 4K 240hz

[shell void]

yeh it’s pantherlake

[turbid locust]

I think the only thing about upgrading my display is… finding out what the fuck to do with the C4 lol

[steel stream]

yeah I just wouldn't play competitive games often enough to make that viable

[steel stream]

bedroom TV

[turbid locust]

bedroom TV is not OLED but it’s like a 55” 4K

[steel stream]

upgrades

I'd take a 42" OLED over some 55"

[turbid locust]

Not with how far it is from my head lol

[frank zealot]

Awww, my local MC is out of both models of 16GB 5060 TI that were 380$

[steel stream]

Imma try out LLMs on my B580 first before buying one of those

[turbid locust]

I mainly play competitive games lol that’s my issue

[steel stream]

You don't have bedside binoculars?

[frank zealot]

it would have been for another work build that's being bandied about

[frank zealot]

I can touch the 42? 43? inch 4K next to my bed >.>

[steel stream]

I need a bedroom TV, can't look at my C4 when in bed

[turbid locust]

i hold my own on the C4 but like yk

[frank zealot]

the bedroom TV was a 24" 1080p Samsung monitor that had headphone out that ran to a soundbar.

It got upgraded to the 4K instead lol

[merry stirrup]

my sister is a 4k tv gamer

a 42 inch 4k tv gamer just like yall

[frank zealot]

and the soundbar got upgraded to HDMI input off the mini pc

[merry stirrup]

like at her desk and stuff and allat

[steel stream]

get a really really fancy monitor arm

[merry stirrup]

just got her computer yesterday

[steel stream]

based

[turbid locust]

my desk isn’t monitor arm friendly

[merry stirrup]

monitor arm costs as much as the display

[steel stream]

yeah it's not great

[steel stream]

I tried to mount a mic arm on my desk but no great options

[turbid locust]

yeah

I think I set the 27” 1440p 240hz back up on my desk, try it for a bit, and determine if I want 240Hz that bad

Idk if I do but

[steel stream]

yeah pull a Michael and go back to the monitor life

[topaz veldt]

honestly I just flush with distilled

[turbid locust]

I think I’ll have a really hard time with the size difference but

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[turbid locust]

The 321UPX looks nice but

32 inches man

also like almost a grand

[steel stream]

size does matter

[turbid locust]

I think my desk is just comedically large for anything under 42” lol

[steel stream]

yeah we now have huge desks that make smaller monitors not a great experience lol

[turbid locust]

just need a 240hz LG C series bruh

[steel stream]

2-3 years is my guess

[topaz veldt]

Interesting

[turbid locust]

idk if I ever see it happening

[topaz veldt]

how big is your table top

[turbid locust]

big

like 72”x40”

[steel stream]

display tech is only getting better, LG G series is already tandem and 165Hz, it'll just take a while before we see it in C series

[turbid locust]

79”x40”*

[wraith steeple]

Same here. DW flush is more than enough TBH

I leave that vinegar in the kitchen where it belongs

[topaz veldt]

yeah fuck all that

[steel stream]

Hisense is also at 165 at 4K, and I think they have a 1080p higher refresh mode

[topaz veldt]

240 hz or bust honestly

for a TV 144 is fine, but for my main jam naw

[merry stirrup]

360 (i get 240 in most games anyways tho)

[turbid locust]

I just had such little issue going back to 144 from 240 idk if I want it that bad

[steel stream]

yeah like 280 Hz in 1080p, getting there slowly

[topaz veldt]

240 OLED is whats up

[turbid locust]

I kinda wanna full send 360hz but 1440p 🤢

[topaz veldt]

1440p no

[steel stream]

if you're gonna do that at least go for the 500Hz model

[hoary hatch]

Oh so EA is acquired
What are the chances of mass effect 5 making it to market now?

[pure garnet]

yeah this res isn’t the move

[brisk jolt]

nah gang u gotta get 480hz or above atp

[pure garnet]

4k and 5090 is what i need

[brisk jolt]

360hz is not full send

[livid flame]

Less so.

[brisk jolt]

I have one requirement, I just need 4K

[pure garnet]

4k240 woled is my next stop

[livid flame]

Jared Kushner bought it. It’s make EA great again. Not make good games again.

It’s going to be MORE DLC on release and higher prices.

But you don’t have to worry. The sale isn’t expected until 2027

[hoary hatch]

So we got a year and change to release ME5

[livid flame]

It’s going to be exactly the same scenario as Blizzard Activision.

Quantity and margin, not quality.

[steel stream]

I love money

[livid flame]

In 2027 EA games will only be sold on Origin

[edgy laurel]

Origin, a name i haven't heard in years. didn't that die?

[pure garnet]

it became the ea app

same accounts and everything

[hoary hatch]

I still call it origin

[livid flame]

Same

[hoary hatch]

Or I think of it as origin anyways

[livid flame]

It’s the same thing with a different skin

It’s shite. Have to use it for one of the games my kids likes

[merry stirrup]

so basically only reason no karhu 2 is the guy cant make copy protection

[pure garnet]

degrading the customer experience by zoning in on pirates

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-gif-21856831

[steel stream]

you should make karhu 2

[pure garnet]

masterful gambit

[merry stirrup]

the craziest part tho is that im being deadass 😭

[pure garnet]

90% of his announcements are about pirates or copy protection

[steel stream]

Does the first one have copy protection?

I am not up to date on karhu lore

[pure garnet]

it does but it doesn’t at the same time

[merry stirrup]

yes and its shit but also it collects telementary on users without telling you and thats kinda weird

[pure garnet]

supposedly it’s opt in

[steel stream]

oh nice

[pure garnet]

idk where you opt in though

[merry stirrup]

it doesnt verify really if you get a valid license file in a random uhhhh os or something itll stay activated

[merry stirrup]

i think it is i just hardly ever click around in karhu

i just clickt he start button

[pure garnet]

okay yeah it is on the about tab

[steel stream]

same

[merry stirrup]

mkay slightly better

i guess like results like this

it letrs you know where the general avg is going to be or what the peak is

[pure garnet]

why are people using the windows 7 rng on a 9950x3d

[merry stirrup]

but why this info isnt public so we can see? idk

[merry stirrup]

its fastr according to the guy

[south shuttle]

so you can download malware and support the creators of the malware

[steel stream]

man I paid for this

[merry stirrup]

i mean the fact its opt in makes it fine we just didnt remember if that was a thing or not

i didnt even think bro really would collect telementary 💀

it would be great if it was a public db

[pure garnet]

it’s just when you see him ranting about piracy and then he had a database of tests it was like “wtf”

[merry stirrup]

cause it looks like bro has it setup for that already

[merry stirrup]

yeah deadass you dont just pull that out of the blue 😭

[steel stream]

what does he need it for

does he like email people with good bins and ask to buy their CPU or smth

[pure garnet]

yeah he wants to buy my 7800x3d fr

[merry stirrup]

probably for stuff like above for broad comparisons

but again it would be cool if we knew what was faster and meta too

bro's gonna get ultimate oc sauce and gatekeep it from everyone

[pure garnet]

unless vddio has some weird relationship with vddq my tomahawk just hates this 8000 kit i have

i can't even boot 7600 reliably anymore

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

i should try slamming the vddq later for giggles

maybe 1.35/1.35 ram with 1.45v vddio just isn't a functional pairing

[steel stream]

He'd open it up for the public, but he hasn't figured out how to monetize it and have piracy protection

[merry stirrup]

DEADASS

[pure garnet]

akn have you seen how you join the discord

[steel stream]

Guys please don't take screenshots of the Excel :(

[pure garnet]

it's crazy

[steel stream]

nah I have not

[merry stirrup]

yeah id get killed if i invited someone with my link

[pure garnet]

nah the link died already

[merry stirrup]

(they just disable it after 1 person uses it)

[pure garnet]

you have to request an invite using your karhu license email

[steel stream]

hah nice

[pure garnet]

and then you will be emailed an invite that works for 1 person for a 2 hour window

[steel stream]

oh so if I miss the email I am screwed

[merry stirrup]

presumably theyd see you havent joined so no but

[pure garnet]

If you are unable to join the Discord via this automated flow, please reply to this email and we will invite you manually (ignore the sender address being "no-reply").

[merry stirrup]

hed make you pay 5$ for a retry

[steel stream]

i didn't know Karhu was like this

[low sorrel]

^

[steel stream]

I just wanted the ram stability program

[pure garnet]

last time i buy a test program i think

[merry stirrup]

yeah its sad cause that was my program to glaze

mike tryna get me to buy ram test pro

man i dont even want that on the internet

[steel stream]

imma just keep using karhu but crazy man

[merry stirrup]

yeah fr

lil wild but he already has my passwords what can i do

[low sorrel]

I am so confused

[steel stream]

already has my CC info and all that oh well

[merry stirrup]

tldr
karhu2 is plagued with delays cause bro cant make an antipiracy solution (and other stuff im sure but he really yaps about this)
takes telementary but doesnt make the useful data he gets public

i mean thats a pretty okay job

[steel stream]

3000 a month damn

maybe I should make karhu 2

[low sorrel]

I mean only 36000 per year

[merry stirrup]

unless bro just does kkarhu and nothing else that is a decent amount of money unless im wild

[steel stream]

yeah but hopefully it would be like a side hustle ya know

[merry stirrup]

if bro has been working on karhu2 for like 3 years full time idk man

[pure garnet]

it's going up in price with karhu 2 iirc as well

[low sorrel]

Floppa when karhu2

[merry stirrup]

unknown

[steel stream]

greed

[merry stirrup]

mybad 7 years

[low sorrel]

Bro is Mr 100

[merry stirrup]

yeah if its been 7 years of dev time and this is his fulltime job idk what to tell you

[merry stirrup]

screenshot from site

[steel stream]

PirateSoftware but for ram testing

[pure garnet]

yeah theres no shot i'd ever screenshot my about tab

[merry stirrup]

fr 😭

[fringe vigil]

Anyone else just causally spend 60 on jeans bruh

[merry stirrup]

altho its good software theres just

[frank zealot]

which about tab?

[steel stream]

no i get my jeans from costco

[merry stirrup]

karhu

[fringe vigil]

Is that poor usa store

[merry stirrup]

its just wack man

[fringe vigil]

only kidding

[steel stream]

it was like $15-20 maybe

[frank zealot]

since there's nothing interesting on it lol

[low sorrel]

Oh steam fall sale in 45mins

[pure garnet]

costco clothes meta

[fringe vigil]

Fr??

[steel stream]

I need me a pair of Carhartt work pants and a jacket

[merry stirrup]

name and license #

[frank zealot]

I wear dickies pants to work

[merry stirrup]

i wear no pants to work. we are not the same.

[steel stream]

Trying to get one of the Carhartt detroit duck jackets rn

[frank zealot]

Bruh, I saw a license plate at Microcenter last week....
it was arguably nsfw lol

[merry stirrup]

💀

[frank zealot]

DM'd lol

[steel stream]

there's a really cool Lockheed martin carhartt jacket nearby me but it's going for $350 lol

[frank zealot]

akn i'ma send it to you, too lol

[shell void]

my aunt came across one that was "ALLINHIM"

she sent me a pic a few days ago

[steel stream]

pretty cool

[merry stirrup]

mmmmmmmmm

that is drip

[frank zealot]

carrhart is awesome, but oof, the pricetag

[steel stream]

Yeah I sadly will be getting the non lockheed version I don't have $350 to spend on drip

That jacket is like 100-120$ normally

[merry stirrup]

could be something a flopper gets

[pure garnet]

i got my carhartt shirts for like 20 bucks damn

[hoary hatch]

It's a fashion brand now

[merry stirrup]

i cant revert the past but i can look at the drip

[low sorrel]

What was it?

[torpid blaze]

werent they work clothing back then

[merry stirrup]

it was a silly

[cerulean cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-laugh-gif-21799013

every page is fcked

[topaz veldt]

k

[cerulean cosmos]

these people need to hire real web devs, this is a school for christs sake

[rigid orchid]

@steel stream I was gonna get a shield pro, but the fire cube at 89 usd was too tempting for me lol. Since that also has ai upscaling and hdr youtube

[frank cypress]

Lockheed Martin carhartt is fucking dope

not three fitty dope but definitely dope

[low sorrel]

That is drip

[rigid orchid]

Fire cube 3rd gen would be better than a fire stick right?

I'd go for an ugoos amb6+ but it's a bit pricey now and my bedroom setup isn't high end enough to fully utilize it lol

[frank cypress]

https://3dvf.com/en/donald-trump-announces-100-tariffs-on-films-made-outside-the-usa/

what does this even mean

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

[brisk jolt]

it means it doesnt do jackshit for people who sail the seas

[topaz veldt]

What do you m ean?

[shell void]

how do you enforce a tariff on digital media

[inland wind]

You make it more expensive to show the movies in the cinemas , buy licenses and go through the certification processes

[edgy laurel]

what movies, though. who makes that call, based on what

article nails most of the complications.

There are also no details on what would be considered a “film made outside of the United States.” A fully foreign production would obviously be targeted, but what about co-productions? Or films produced by an American company abroad, such as Illumination, which is based in California but makes its films at Illumination Studios Paris in France? What about American films shot abroad? Or American films whose visual effects are outsourced to studios outside the USA—for example, in Canada, France, New Zealand, or the United Kingdom?

[inland wind]

It’s the same way with the “made in the US” stuff. It’s all scam

[fervent elm]

Interesting https://share.google/Tcne4Q3y6FDv8qYYJ

[brisk jolt]

thats…
the problem…

trump left his brain somewhere in the past and lost it permanently

[frank zealot]

something something... AI.... something something

[random flame]

This is going to get confusing fast.

[south shuttle]

yes

tbh this will only encourage people to pirate more

if they somehow manage to enforce it

[inland wind]

Netflix has 300 million subscribers. Be so fr with me rn

[frank zealot]

Common IT Request:

"Can you install XXXXXX Software on the computer?"

me: .... That's just a website, it's not software on the computer

[gentle urchin]

in EU Netflix needs to have at least 30% EU stuff on the streaming platform.

[inland wind]

Admittedly yall send fines left and right

So it better have the shows I want if I’m paying

[cinder basalt]

Hey guys, I am considering buying a laser printer and I have had great experience with my HP laser printer that is dying after 15 years. But I dunno the details of the HP instant ink model, anyone can tell me what it is about and the issues with it?

[inland wind]

Yeah they’ve gone to shit. Most HPs come with a subscription these days

Get a brother honestly

[south shuttle]

try looking for a printer that doesn’t require proprietary ink or atleast printer that doesn’t permanently disable itself and void warranty if you try diffent ink cartridge

[livid flame]

Can’t wait to see the next administration undoing tariffs. Gonna be hella fun.

[inland wind]

If you print a lot it’s worth getting one with an ink tank too

[cinder basalt]

so if I install after merket toner it stops working???

[inland wind]

Yeah

[south shuttle]

yes some manufacturers do that

[inland wind]

They’ve got chips in the cartridges now

[cinder basalt]

Is teh Brother brand good and does it allow after market toner?

[frank zealot]

So, for a printer at home, unless you super duper need a color printer?

DO NOT BUY COLOR

And for the love of god, DO NOT BUY INKJET EVER.

[inland wind]

They usually do and brothers are amazing

[frank zealot]

generally yes and yes

[cinder basalt]

learned this around 20 years ago with my 3rd printer

[frank zealot]

For around 120 USD you can get a Brother personal laser with a NIC on it for easy network printing

[inland wind]

Ive got a 20 year old brother still up and running

[frank zealot]

I think mine's around 8? Because I had a printer I "borrowed" from work previously until it died

[cinder basalt]

Thinking of gettign this one then https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MFG57ZK

[inland wind]

This. But these days they sometimes come with some smart features. If you can, get the one without anything smart

[inland wind]

Middle of the line brother. Google the model and “known issues” and if nothing pops up it’s your choice

[frank zealot]

should be fine, but it doesn't have ethernet, only wifi

[inland wind]

Slay. Love to see an office king

[random flame]

Uuuhhh question... Why not get inkjet though?
Very few even get laserjet anyway (if that's the point you're making) and inkjet is still as good as laserjet print-wise, which... Fortunately hasn't regressed technologically, unlike optical drive tech nowadays.

[cinder basalt]

don't have ethernet at my home office because Mexico's internet installers suck

[frank zealot]

whole list of reasons, starting with ink is garbage

[random flame]

I don't see how, but okay.

[inland wind]

Want an Ethernet advice too while we’re at it?

[cinder basalt]

the heads of the printer, if not used often, dry up and leave teh printer in a non-usable state

[cinder basalt]

I know etehrnet... problem is need to stop being lazy AF

[random flame]

Now that is a clearer reason given.

[frank zealot]

1. cost per page will be a fraction of the price on laser

2. laser toner doesn't dry out in 60 days, ink frequently does

3. aftermarket is easier on laser than inkjet

[inland wind]

Honestly just got a decent cat5 and throw the bitch under your corner thingy

Floor cabling!

[frank zealot]

inkjet printers are for making the manufs money, not for convenience at home

[cinder basalt]

back in my high-school years you could get refilled cartriges cheap and easy... note to all this is in Mexico

[inland wind]

No no it really was better for everyone back in the day

[livid flame]

Put a tariff on it

[frank zealot]

most companies have gotten way better at blocking this over the last 5-10ish years

[cinder basalt]

I'm 41 so makes sense

[random flame]

Well then the next question is what good affordable laserjet printers are worth getting?
The reason I'd want to know this is just in case I have to give out this recommendation later in way of considering it myself.

[livid flame]

How much do you print?

[inland wind]

Anything brother

[frank zealot]

#tech-chat-2 message

[inland wind]

Like I’d not get anything but brothers these days

[random flame]

Any specific model names from Brother to watch for?

[frank zealot]

they change every year or two? so no lol

[random flame]

Damn, okay.

[inland wind]

They’re all surprisingly decent. You won’t see a problem normally

Just come and pick the cheapest to your size specs

[frank zealot]

like, the starter cartridge that comes with a laser printer will print 500+ pages typically.

Which is usually more than a full inkjet cart

[inland wind]

If you’re feeling fancy, pick up the second hand one broken and fix it, they’re really easy to fix

Well okay moderately easy

But you’d get a thousand dollar machine for 300

[random flame]

Hmmm that reminds me of something 3d-printing related, in terms of someone using inkjet carts modded into a printer to multi-color prints... That makes me wonder if that's even feasible with laserjet .

[frank zealot]

Whenever you hear someone say "I want to buy a printer so I can print pictures"

Tell them straight up: You'll get cheaper, and better prints at Walgreens than you will out of your home printer.

[random flame]

There's a sound statement I've actually heard before.

[inland wind]

Actually prefer cvs

Red is calming

[frank zealot]

take your pic, but whatever your local shop is, their prints are hands-down better

and anything up to a 5x7 are dirt cheap at those shops

[random flame]

Agreed.

[frank zealot]

8x10 and up get more expensive, but most people aren't printing that big

[cinder basalt]

I need one 'cus my wife's a teacher and often has to fight with the office people to get copies or prints

[inland wind]

Actually no. Hunt down a weird «100 for 10 » discounts and boom you get cheap fucking prints

[cinder basalt]

also... this way I can start scanning my mom's old photos

[thick frost]

ah she’s mint

[inland wind]

Okay while you’re here

DONT pay for any scanning software. There are open source ones

[cinder basalt]

Do color laser printer still exists or did I had a wild dream at some point

[random flame]

What's a good recommendation?

[cinder basalt]

Oh you got a the cup holder thingy... nice!!!

[frank zealot]

they do, but you're looking at 700-1300$ for a full toner refill
(unless it's super low end and crap)

[cinder basalt]

software developer here... I rather use GNU than official ones

[inland wind]

Naps is okay

[random flame]

Well I looked them up. Apparently they do still.

Brother's of course comes up first.

[frank zealot]

here's what each color can cost

[cinder basalt]

ooh god no!!!!

[random flame]

O

[cinder basalt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNQFCPZY

[random flame]

Oh damn, that would definitely make my mom recoil.

[inland wind]

There’s a subscription on HPs that limits you to N pages a month

[merry stirrup]

for me its just "i need admin perms to do this" its quite silly

[frank zealot]

yup, some are cheaper, but remember:

That's 1500 pages at 4-5% coverage per page (roughly standard text)

If you print images and such, that number will crash like a jet

[cinder basalt]

Elementary school teachers don't need detail, they need the thing to print in mass

[random flame]

Welp, still waiting on the day we can just... Print paper stuff with a 3d printer instead as a print head mod. I bet such already exists too and does near similar print qualities.

[merry stirrup]

elementary teachers dont pay for the printer ink

[frank zealot]

which is why they usually do B&W cuz cheap

[merry stirrup]

^

[frank zealot]

don't say that many do

[cinder basalt]

Their husbands do (aka me)

[merry stirrup]

no they dont

[frank zealot]

schools are REALLY bad at supplying classrooms

[merry stirrup]

if your school is making you pay for your ink you should quit

[cinder basalt]

the school makes it a drag out of asking for copies or prints

[vale cosmos]

quitting unfortunately isn't always an option lol

[frank zealot]

aare you telling 2/3 of the US' teachers to quit?

[whole lake]

i wanna turn my windows 11 24h2 into win7 frutiger aero completely (almost)
can any kind soul list me the tools and tweaks for achieving the same?

p.s. emphasis on 24h2 cuz there are some compatibility issues

[merry stirrup]

i dont think 2/3 of the teachers in the states pay for their own ink lmao

[cinder basalt]

Not making her pay, just makign her fill in forms and ask the reason and after some days, they give her the copy permision or printing eprmission

[merry stirrup]

yes because 2/3 of the teachers in the states will print 300 copies+ a week out of their own pocket

[frank zealot]

do you know any elementary / middle school teachers

[random flame]

Nor the kids' school supplies either.

And there are parents who for whatever reason think they should.

[cinder basalt]

I rather do this than what she has to deal with.. bureaucracy

[random flame]

When that's virtually impossible for most of them to afford outright.

[merry stirrup]

if this is like, printing a document once a day to sign something for school or similar thats different, not when its the worksheets lol

[vale cosmos]

i doubt 2/3 have to use there own printer. i do know some schools local to me have been started limiting printing, but i can't imagine 2/3rds

[merry stirrup]

im talking like a broad majority of printed work that teachers use is printed on mass by the school off the curriculum like weeks in advance

signing a document or making a quick print to give a student an extra copy is different

[merry stirrup]

imagine doing this to a normal desk printer

youd go through as many printers as you would ink carts

[cinder basalt]

problem is that sometimes curriculum needs changing mid week and you ain't got time to make a requisition for a print job... this is the problem often faced here

[merry stirrup]

i mean yeah that will certainly fuck you up but usually theres some form of in school copier you can use to print 30 or 40 copies pretty quickly and out of the schools pocket

[inland wind]

Absolutely no they’re not

[cinder basalt]

with the advent of learning platforms, this is reduced a lot (this is mostly in private schools)

[frank zealot]

optimist?

[merry stirrup]

no i went to school

shocking i know

[frank zealot]

were you a teacher?

[merry stirrup]

did IT on the side and delt with their printers 👍

[inland wind]

Im sorry, its just not true. Not only do teachers print most of the materials by themselves, but most US based teachers are limited to a certain amount of pages a year and after that they have to pay. My school had parent buy paper and refill the cartridges

[cinder basalt]

those things get more use than... a wallmart shopping cart

[merry stirrup]

no teacher there had a printer (that wasnt the schools like a big konica minolta) in their classroom

the 3 other schools i went to growing up were the same

none of them private or even close to well funded 👍

[frank zealot]

I can confirm most of this because friends who are teachers have confirmed these exact things.

[cinder basalt]

not all schools do this here in Mexico but the one my wife works at yes

[merry stirrup]

it is a common practice

if your teacher is printing thousands of copies a month out of their own pocket, gift them an ink cart

[cinder basalt]

which, if your partner can buy you a printer to avoid it... it's better

[inland wind]

We do

We do gift them cartridges and paper and printers

[vale cosmos]

at my schools it's always was one of the 3 foot tall massive printers that all the teachers use with a few having personal printers because they would print more than allowed by the admins

[merry stirrup]

^

[cinder basalt]

my wife often prints/copies 30 to 50 pages a month

[inland wind]

My middle school teacher got a new printer combo when we started middle school

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats not too bad lol

imagine havbing to pay for one of the big copiers or something

[inland wind]

Don’t have to imagine

[cinder basalt]

this is why I want a midrange one

[vale cosmos]

post covid my teachers got limited to 200 pages a year 😭😭

admin didn't want to pay for printing, "we could just be all digital"

[cinder basalt]

that's nothing!!!

[merry stirrup]

if your school is forcing each teacher to buy a three thousand dollar copier, something is probably wrong

how do first year teachers get by?

[cinder basalt]

if you class room is 30 kids... you're screwed by mid year

[inland wind]

Printers are 120 bucks. It’s not forcing, it’s paying so your kids can get a decently printed copy of the material

[merry stirrup]

a real business copier is not 120$

[inland wind]

Who said teachers get business copiers

[frank zealot]

who is saying that teachers are buying office scale copiers?

[vale cosmos]

every student had chromebook's in middle/high school and every elementary school class had a set of chromebooks. but definitely bad for handwriting

[inland wind]

They get the one decent printer scanner copy

[merry stirrup]

teachers who dont want to rebuy their printer every year and for some reason also have to print every document out of their own pocket

although these two are cheaper

[frank zealot]

Brother makes perfectly servicable copiers at 200-300 bucks

[vale cosmos]

i love the ricoh i have at my work, can print 600 pages very quickly

[pure garnet]

what school are we working at that doesn’t have a copier

[vale cosmos]

the stapler fails sometimes though which is annoying

[merry stirrup]

we use konica minoltas (a various stack) and theyre all just ok

[random flame]

Sounds very bad, especially without proper graphics tablets or hybrid screens. And even then, that's no true replacement for paper and pencil either.

[merry stirrup]

this is what im saying dude

[inland wind]

Most

[merry stirrup]

youre gaslighting me

i went to a school with less than 300 students k-12 and there was 3

[pure garnet]

when i was in school my teacher would unironically walk off to make copies of an assignment sometimes

[merry stirrup]

yes

[vale cosmos]

there all the 2-in-1 with pens, but still yea quite terrible

[frank zealot]

for a normal classroom, either of these would last years:

[inland wind]

I am absolutely not. The printer we got is still in that school

I’ve been there this year

[merry stirrup]

and im sure its totally the only one the teacher can use

totally

[vale cosmos]

saying most schools is wild i would reckon over half have a copier

[frank zealot]

Flop, why does it feel like you're taking this exceptionally personally?

[inland wind]

Im not sure what you’re implying. Some printers are absolutely school sponsored

[random flame]

Oh geez...

[inland wind]

But it’s a school dude. Imagine one printer failing and stalling all of the school prints

[merry stirrup]

because its absurd to say that 2/3 or more of the schools teachers in the states have to print every single one of the documents they use in class out of their own pocket

[frank zealot]

I mean, nearly every school will have a copier?

Cuz it's required for various things. What scale it is will depend on the school itself

[merry stirrup]

or even a large majority of the documents they use

[cinder basalt]

but the usage is very limited

[inland wind]

Who’s talking about the US?

And the 2/3?

[frank zealot]

who said they print everything out of pocket?

They/do/ absolutely print a lot of stuff out of pocket though

[merry stirrup]

that is thousands of documents a year and hundreds if not thousands of dollars of ink

[merry stirrup]

this is what ive been saying the whole time 😭

[frank zealot]

no it's not

[merry stirrup]

are you trolling me

it was like the first clarification that i made

[random flame]

Could never have these back when I used to go to school. Then again, a private school would have less printers overall and just either one or two office copiers in one room, or just go through a local print shop to have everything done or something.

[cinder basalt]

Did I just start WW3... the printer wars?

[inland wind]

Harsh reality sadly is that teachers do pay for a lot of printing out of pocket.

Thats what I’ve been saying. Buying a copier combo is a real thing that people do for their class rooms

[inland wind]

No! Class consciousness needs to be enforced

[frank zealot]

yeah, and it's not one doc a day typically

[merry stirrup]

your teacher may have to print the 40 teacher parent consent forms to watch a pg13 movie out of their own pocket but not the worksheets they use in class

[frank zealot]

most teacher do print at least a good portion of worksheets themselves

[inland wind]

This

[merry stirrup]

they may photocopy a page out of a textbook to use in class but generally the worksheets are ordered things

[frank zealot]

schools absolutely do not print all the classroom material themselves

[cinder basalt]

I'll say what my wife does... every student has a family email where this forms are sent to and the family needs to print them, sign them, and give them to the teacher.

[merry stirrup]

absolutely not thats what im saying

[cinder basalt]

or the school admin, this way they avoid havignt eachers print this stuff

[merry stirrup]

but like. saying your math teacher prints their own worksheets when theyve been ordering the same curriculum for 5+ years

[inland wind]

Dude I legit bough a printer for my physics teacher

It was a class effort

[frank zealot]

shrugs I'm out, i'm done with this convo

[inland wind]

Im not sure why you insists thy don’t. They absolutely do

[merry stirrup]

im not saying at eacher doesnt print a lot out of their own pocket but in the perspective of a teacher and how much they handle printed documents a lot of them the school pays for 😭

[cinder basalt]

modern teachign platforms like Blackboard have made this irrelevant

although it's only efasible for private schools here

[inland wind]

If you are not familiar with that practice I’m sorry you had to experience it that way

[merry stirrup]

idk what we used for math over my school years it was mostly online tho yeah

[inland wind]

No but you are. That is simply not true for a lot of schools

[merry stirrup]

although a lot of textbook or worksheet based stuff

like 50/50

[inland wind]

I’d like to say especially non-US schools

[pure garnet]

my uni made all the math worksheets and just printed them in bulk

for the whole department

[merry stirrup]

yeah sounds about right

[inland wind]

That’s a good uni. Mine doesn’t do that

My other uni doesn’t do that

Only the textbooks are printed that way

[pure garnet]

we didn't have textbooks

[merry stirrup]

ours were online

[low sorrel]

my school had like 20

[pure garnet]

they made the notes as well and just made them guided

we'd fill them out during lectures

[merry stirrup]

ez

[pure garnet]

i went to a private school for elementary that was k-8, my final year they had 8 8th graders

[merry stirrup]

LOL

last time i went to one of the graduations at my first school it was something like 17 graduating students out of 30

[low sorrel]

My old school had 400 8th graders lol

yo what tiny ass towns are yall from

[merry stirrup]

tiny ass tounds

[pure garnet]

when i xfered to public i had like

the usual several hundred per grade

[merry stirrup]

there was less than a thousand people in my entire town 💀

[pure garnet]

but i went to private for k-5 bc the local school sucked or something idk

[merry stirrup]

ah

[cinder basalt]

Here in Mexico it's common for kids to be sent to private school because the public system is bad AF.

[low sorrel]

dude that was like half of my highschool

[inland wind]

Honestly I’m from a top 150 school

[low sorrel]

nerd

[inland wind]

Countrywide

[inland wind]

Absolutely. Gay too

[merry stirrup]

yeah exactly

[inland wind]

And we still were weirdly underfunded

[vale cosmos]

half of that was my graduating class 😭😭 and we were the smaller high school

[merry stirrup]

yeah my graduating class was probably 100 people

[inland wind]

Same

Probably kinda less

60 I’d be surprised

[vale cosmos]

the most recent class from my high school was 700?

[inland wind]

Texas schools

[low sorrel]

our school was stupidly funded for tech and music and had like no funding for anything else

[low sorrel]

Mine was 300?

more then 300 less then 400

[inland wind]

What country though?

[low sorrel]

canada