tech-chat-2

[frank zealot]

Guess what I did

[merry stirrup]

my boy ggood

[wise bear]

did you finally use the potty on your own??

[low sorrel]

you bulit it?

[frank zealot]

I only made a little mess on the seat!

[wise bear]

omfg you are never using my bathroom

[low sorrel]

better then my damn niece

[frank zealot]

If you wanna set up a joke, don't be upset when I follow through lol

[frank zealot]

Anyways, guess what I did 😛

[wise bear]

whAT

[low sorrel]

you burned a orphanage???

[frank zealot]

I wiped 5 lenovo tiny PCs

[merry stirrup]

CLUSTER CLUSTER

[wise bear]

👀

[merry stirrup]

every blue screen while remote ocing is kinda scary

[frank zealot]

The Phantom Spirit 120 is the followup to the PA120SE, right?

[merry stirrup]

i dont imagine theyll perform any different just get whats cheaper

[frank zealot]

They're about the same

[merry stirrup]

id say since its a work computer to get aftermarket paste like duronaut or something

[heavy mantle]

i found the perfect case to plop my x299 mobo in

[frank zealot]

I've got MX-6 in my parts bin here

[merry stirrup]

probably good enough

[heavy mantle]

cooler master cosmo ||

is there an eatx mobo for x299??

[topaz veldt]

Alright... vertical mount bracket modified to fit atop the fan + rad

[merry stirrup]

it supa died again

ill take a 15s run tho

at least its only at 1.3v while its just sitting doing nothing

[thick frost]

that’s fun

Ha

Automodded

[green marsh]

i use A: for hard drives

[low sorrel]

DAMN YOU WARSHIPPPPPPPPPPPp

[topaz veldt]

Why I gotta make everything hard

[frank zealot]

not enough P's

[low sorrel]

thats what she said

[topaz veldt]

fixeded

[frank zealot]

do you have a non-textured bed plate for your printer?

[edgy laurel]

No visible cables or tubes.

Inb4 Jerry zooms in and circles something

[merry stirrup]

WRONGGGG

[edgy laurel]

I didn’t claim it, the op did

[merry stirrup]

whats that

smh shit computer

[edgy laurel]

But that wasn’t supposed to be the point!

[merry stirrup]

smh

[edgy laurel]

(also the GPU block RGB cable)

[merry stirrup]

yeah lol

it does look very good

i dont like those fans with the displays theyre useless

there is nothing beneficial or cool to putting them in the rig other than the fact that theyre fans

[meager siren]

Clean

[edgy laurel]

Screens on screens

[merry stirrup]

and seemingly have TN displays? why the viewing angles so bad on that exhausting set

[edgy laurel]

Wouldn’t surprise me

[merry stirrup]

and i bet theyre 200$ a pack

[meager siren]

Btw I think I found out why I’m dumb. It’s bc I’m an apple user and always been told “it just works” by Tim jobs

[merry stirrup]

ok

the day you get bored and never talk again will be a normal day

and probably this day

[meager siren]

I joined yesterday

[merry stirrup]

ok

[meager siren]

but seriously I’m trying to learn more

[merry stirrup]

discords full of people who dont know more than you or hardly know more than you are probably not the best means of doing so

blind leading the blind

lead by the deaf and blind

[brisk jolt]

how it feels like seeing elian give advice:

[frank cypress]

any meowers in the chat

[merry stirrup]

MEOWWW

[frank cypress]

MEOOOOOWWWWW

[merry stirrup]

🤝 i got a new ycruncher 1b today'

i think that puts me top 19

[frank cypress]

leggoooo

[merry stirrup]

yeah top 18 is only 7ms away tho 😭

[pure garnet]

the steam deck ui is not happy at 4k

[merry stirrup]

steam big picture on da tv?

[pure garnet]

steam deck docked on the tv

[merry stirrup]

ah

[pure garnet]

rtings just slaughtered the score it got but i don’t really care about hdr/local dimming

turned on dolby vision for a second just because i could bc its not samsung then set my apple tv to force sdr anyway

[merry stirrup]

local dimming kinda big to me

[pure garnet]

local dimming is non existent at 43in until you spend baller amounts of money

[merry stirrup]

that is so real carry on

[pure garnet]

i picked up a tcl s5 for $170 and it's currently a gigantic leap over my old one so

if i end up wanting an oled down the road i'll get hdr/dimming

[merry stirrup]

idk i like my oled tv i just wish the burnin-not-burnin wasnt as bad

or had some way i could flash the firmware/whatever it'd be called and fix it myself

[merry stirrup]

but it was 100$

[pure garnet]

my local fbm is cooked and i slept on the s90d deal that ran

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[pure garnet]

at sub 200 to my door im quite happy with this though

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

[pure garnet]

i can watch a dark scene without black crush so

solid upgrade on that front

[merry stirrup]

quite incredible i bet

[pure garnet]

i also no longer needed my rca to 3.5mm adapter

[teal orbit]

miniLED master race

[granite dirge]

i just came up with a really bad idea for the human race

zyns but replace whars in the zyns with pre work out

[low sorrel]

ok you want me too?

[merry stirrup]

even here smh

[pure garnet]

does anyone know where you can get agesa change logs from

[low sorrel]

https://sellout.woot.com/offers/msi-mpg-b650-edge-wifi-motherboard-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_3_2 ooo deal

[low sorrel]

no clue

[merry stirrup]

good news im buying ewaste

[pure garnet]

that looks like literal waste floppa

someone in tc1 would post that

[merry stirrup]

basically

100$ am4 based rig tho easy for flippin

RX 580 hopefully 8gb, misc ryzen 3, misc ddr4

[pure garnet]

is it a good sign when msi pulls a shitton of bioses

[turbid locust]

Acquiring Xbox Series X Friday 🫡

$300

[merry stirrup]

oo not bad

[turbid locust]

I refuse to buy one new cause 500-600 for a console is unacceptable lmfao

[low sorrel]

oo

[turbid locust]

Thank god for single mothers on Facebook

[pure garnet]

bro they’re going up in price too

they want like $680 or something now

[turbid locust]

This will be my GTA 6 machine as well

[turbid locust]

wtaf

[shell void]

thatll be a splendid 720p experience

[turbid locust]

well yk if it’s not coming to pc then it’s either 720p experience or no experience

[pure garnet]

i am blindly updating my x870 tomahawks bios in hope it’ll delete 2 of the dimm slots off the board

[shell void]

ps5 pro or ps6 will be the best way to play gta until it's ported

[turbid locust]

Yeah but like where am I finding one of those for $300

[merry stirrup]

LMAOO

[turbid locust]

I just need something to get by till pc release lol

[pure garnet]

i’m just play gta 6 on the base ps5

i already own one

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-gif-3515684064707868771

[merry stirrup]

@shell void rate ewaste

[pure garnet]

a girl can try

[turbid locust]

I haven’t owned a console since I got my PS4 in like 2016 ish

And I haven’t see that PS4 in 4 years

[shell void]

do i see a FX-era amd stock cooler and a msi armor gpu covered in cigarette tar?

[merry stirrup]

yes but surprisingly its ryzen

[hoary hatch]

It's so much tar

[pure garnet]

literally looks like a pc someone would post on tc1

[merry stirrup]

and yes it pains me to say that it is an msi armor card

my least favorite aib model ever. period.

[shell void]

and then say it's absolutely bullshit that they struggle to run 2025 AAA games

[merry stirrup]

BRO I WAS SAYIN THIS EARLIER

[pure garnet]

are you buying it for the parts or the high you’ll get from all the tar

[turbid locust]

I don’t think you can get high from the tar

[turbid locust]

just cancer

[merry stirrup]

both its like the kief at the bottom of the grinder

[merry stirrup]

8 year old dgpu not running game=game is bad

[shell void]

my entry level gpu from 2016 cant run the game at 1080p60fps with max settings!?!!?!

[merry stirrup]

5 year old dgpu for recommened=game is bad

[brave panther]

oxygen not included

[shell void]

sorry low end not entry level but whatever

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[shell void]

he can play overwatch 2, valorant, roblox, wizard101, minecraft, and gta 5 legacy

[merry stirrup]

8 year old graphics card that lacks full dx12 support may struggle to run modern video games

[shell void]

that's all a man needs for real

[merry stirrup]

fr anything faster is useless

[turbid locust]

Same folks that were saying “BuT mUh PhYsX!1!!!!1!!1” with 50 series

[vapid belfry]

@edgy laurel Just caught it on my laptop super slow speeds, good to know that it's my actual internet and not just my PC

[brave panther]

almost 100h into this run

[turbid locust]

Honestly idk if it’ll be that bad

GTA 5 was nerfed on PS3 and Xbox 360 but that’s cause that game came out 8 years after release

For Series and PS5 it’ll only be 5ish/6

[shell void]

the 6 year old zen 2 + rdna 2 console when you pop in the AAAA game with complex physics and traced lighting:

[pure garnet]

trying 8000 on the tomahawk again for cope

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[shell void]

fr

[turbid locust]

What are they equivalent to? Like a 6700XT?

[pure garnet]

wait that posted scarily fast

did am5 lock in or something

[turbid locust]

MCR retrain trolling fs

[shell void]

the shader count is inbetween 6700xt and 6800, but it has power constraints

[pure garnet]

nah that's off rn

i uh forgot to install stress tests on my bench setup

so im just kinda rolling with it while i download everything

[turbid locust]

Hmmmmm. Idk I think a 6700XT could handle GTA 6 with upscaling and settings adjustments… probably.

Rage engine is known for being somewhat forgiving

[merry stirrup]

😭do you want a sauce os

[shell void]

720p minimum settings upscaled to 2160p at 60fps in the performance mode probably

[pure garnet]

i wouldn't mind

if this is stable this would be a comfy daily though

[turbid locust]

Would be sad but I’d still be excited to play

And it would only make the PC version that much better for me tbh

[shell void]

then the pc version drops and makes every gpu weaker than a 6090 look like a piece of shit

[turbid locust]

Nah no way lol

[pure garnet]

do i run aida for jokes or just go right into useful tests

[brave panther]

non xt with lower clocks

[turbid locust]

I theorize 4080+ level cards run the game very well especially with upscaling

[teal orbit]

go right into useful tests like cinebench r23

[pure garnet]

that’s your favorite game

[teal orbit]

Nope

[shell void]

cant wait to load into gta 6 on my 32" 5K 240Hz RGB OLED monitor and my RTX 6090 only to play for one night and then get bored

[teal orbit]

Need

[pure garnet]

wow sub 60 with svm on

[turbid locust]

lol if GTA 6 Online is anything like GTA 5 online it will have me hooked

[teal orbit]

what exactly is RGB oled, isn't that worse for burn in

[shell void]

gta online was dead for me almost instantly

[pure garnet]

where read bandwidth go

[shell void]

i got unsolicited money drops on xbox 360, moved to xbox one and made a new account, got another unsolicited money drop, moved to pc and made a new account, got another unsolicited money drop lol

[pure garnet]

this is like half my intel speed

[shell void]

funny thing is that write bandwidth is a lie too

2000FCLK is 64GB/s read and 32GB/s write on single ccd parts

[pure garnet]

💀

[merry stirrup]

you shouldnt expect more than this

63gb/s at 1950fclk sounds right

[shell void]

hey chin up bro you can get 70GB and 35GB at 2200FCLK

[merry stirrup]

peak is ~70gb/s and you have to push really hard for that

[pure garnet]

you know damn well this shit aint booting 2200 fclk

i got karhu running for a serious test now

[merry stirrup]

this is however one of the best aida results for latency ive seen on a real computer

[pure garnet]

with cache enabled the pc is slow now, go figure

[merry stirrup]

for ryzen****

[pure garnet]

yeah im deadass stunned by 58ns

[merry stirrup]

58ns is real good

my ks config got sub 50 and i just about creamed my pants

[pure garnet]

getting about 240mb/s in karhu rn

[merry stirrup]

iirc 280 is the max for single ccd ryzen in karhu

[shell void]

i think the fake aida latency booster toggle is enabled if youre getting 58

[shell void]

latency killer in the bios

[pure garnet]

i didn't enable that so unless that's default

i updated my bios, turned pbo on, typed in the memory settings and rebooted into windows

[shell void]

it might be now

[merry stirrup]

s eems like its actually ~250

so 240 is good yeah

[pure garnet]

i saw that guy in the karhu server and i don't get the point of that setup

[shell void]

8100 is ugly to me

i would just run 8000 with 2200fclk

[pure garnet]

isn't 2/3/1 stinky too

[merry stirrup]

2/3/1 i think is default

[pure garnet]

but the zoid says if you're tuning ram you have no reason not to set the nitro settings

[merry stirrup]

sometimes lower no post

[pure garnet]

also isn't that a zen 5 thing

[merry stirrup]

min maxed pretty hard

[shell void]

oh you know maybe it's just always on with zen 4 and they only give zen 5 users a toggle

[pure garnet]

The Latency Killer function will soon be available for all MSI AM5 series motherboards and is compatible with all Ryzen 9000 series processors.

[merry stirrup]

from doms setup, iirc its something stupid like 1.7-1.8vdd

[pure garnet]

i was under the impression something changed with zen 5 that improved real world perf

[shell void]

that is what they say

but the old code gets lower aida latency results

[pure garnet]

but hurt aida, so they made a toggle to make aida faster but slow down chip in real world

[shell void]

maybe ryzen 7000 just doesnt get a choice

[pure garnet]

i don't think ryzen 7000 has the new logic

i think we're just stuck in the old logic

imma let karhu run for awhile though, i kinda wanna stabilize this

[shell void]

it is time for you to graduate to clamchowder and ramtestpro

[merry stirrup]

ramtestpro seems sketch to me

[shell void]

i got the same vibe for no reason other than it's russian xd

but i tried it and it was fine

[merry stirrup]

well its also entirely closed source

just like the new tm5 which i also dont like

altho i think old tm5 was closed source too i dont remember

[shell void]

karhu is closed as well

[merry stirrup]

idk buying a ram testing program from "pcstonks.ru" is probably it

ive seen one maybe two people in hwbot vouch for it

[pure garnet]

karhu at least has like a gazillion users

[merry stirrup]

yeah at least enough for the dev to post results from thousands of pcs

[pure garnet]

it's kinda weird he has that data imo but

[merry stirrup]

i think its user submitted and not from us

[pure garnet]

not like he doesn't already have my paypal acc name

[merry stirrup]

real

[pure garnet]

did you read the piracy rant

[merry stirrup]

yeah the whole thing

😭 like 6 minutes of reading of bro just cryin cause piracy

i hope we get karhu v2 beta soon like he was talking about

[shell void]

i kinda regret buying karhu

[merry stirrup]

do u not like it?

[merry stirrup]

agreed tho idk if this is user submitted atp 💀

thats a lot of results

[shell void]

it's just an unnecessary purchase and id rather not have given him money and my info

y cruncher is fine

[merry stirrup]

very true

with recent things coming up about my generation of cpus tho id rather not stress test ram while forcing my cpu to draw a constant 300w

i like my fragile clock tree just the way it is

[teal orbit]

Should I take a chance trying to use this old PSU that is deafeningly loud for my router PC while I wait for RMA

[shell void]

coward

i left my pc pegged at 1000W for like 16 hours one time

[pure garnet]

i feel like it is not user submitted considering he knew exactly how many pcs used the stolen copy of karhu

[teal orbit]

I don't know if this old PSU would explode

[pure garnet]

no way you sleep in that room

[shell void]

ac overpowers it

[pure garnet]

do you sleep with hearing protection on

[shell void]

no

wearing earbuds while sleeping is uncomfortable

[pure garnet]

i meant more like the hunting headphones

[merry stirrup]

yes but at the same time i already do a lot more benching than you

ive left yc going for 12 hours but doing it needlessly is what i dont like

[teal orbit]

Imagine not having a separate room dedicated to your pc

[pure garnet]

michael getting ready to use the power of a small building to test his ram oc

[merry stirrup]

LMAO

[pure garnet]

those should come with delta fans

[merry stirrup]

this is real

is there a telementary tab? i forget

[shell void]

maxing out a 120v 20a circuit for 24 hours to improve my cas latency by 2 points

[merry stirrup]

like in the about or options panel

[shell void]

one day for sure

[pure garnet]

the 58ns config is 17 min strong in karhu, is it time to post on reddit

that's about 2 minutes longer than their average stability test

[merry stirrup]

must be stable

something something cope use your pc at what its stable in only your wokrload at

[pure garnet]

i saw a post that was like yeah i've ran like 5 minutes of occt i don't have time for an hour but only ea games crash so it's fine

[merry stirrup]

something something cope ycruncher doesnt matter youre not doing a yc workload

[shell void]

stuffing the pc in an air conditioned closet so that i can blast 8000rpm fans

[merry stirrup]

LOL

if you dont have time to stress test i suggest you dont overclock

[shell void]

i dont understand why these people oc at all

[merry stirrup]

or do it at moments of downtime in ur day

[shell void]

it's fine to not have time, just run a stock 9800x3d with jedec ram

[merry stirrup]

like sleeping or going to work

if youre concious during the period you sit down and stress your desktop for daily use, im sorry

[shell void]

i was using my pc during my 28 hour karhu run because it was fine for web browsing and such

[pure garnet]

i mean that's what im doing rn but i have 2 pcs

[merry stirrup]

my bench os doesnt have internet lol

[pure garnet]

if my 7800x3d is 8000 stable then tomorrow it's going back into my daily for now

[shell void]

the lion tests and benches on his main OS install

[merry stirrup]

the lion refuses to give up points due to daily os overhead

[shell void]

the cub is compensating

[merry stirrup]

says the one whos daily is w11 iot ltsc

full fat windows 11 daily cause the lion is not concerned about overhead in daily operation

[shell void]

yeah there's no performance diff

it just feels cool to run a niche version of windows

[merry stirrup]

i like the lack of telementary and cleaned start menu by default tho

[pure garnet]

i use ltsc because seeing phone link in my right click context menu pisses me off

[merry stirrup]

saves a lot of right clicking and unpinning

[pure garnet]

yeah basically that

[merry stirrup]

somethign something chris titus script tho

[pure garnet]

i'd rather reinstall the ms store and a few things i use

[merry stirrup]

i dont like any debloat scripts they all scare me

[pure garnet]

instead of having to uninstall everything but the few things i use

[shell void]

im shocked windows just let me uninstall edge with 0 backlash

[pure garnet]

yeah it's required in eu but got ported to ltsc for some reason

it's awesomesauce

[merry stirrup]

i did that and it killed windows search

[shell void]

it's still workin fine for me

[merry stirrup]

i did it like a year ago tbf

never tried again

[pure garnet]

oh on ltsc we can just remove it in control panel or whatever

the edge system component is split off

[merry stirrup]

ahh i typically run pro so yeah makes sensse

[topaz veldt]

@wraith steeple modmymods is out of Rochester, NY?

[shell void]

oh no it begins

just saw my first big stink bug

i battle these mfs every year when it starts getting cold

the only thing i dont love about autumn

[merry stirrup]

i wonder if he considers the fact some people could/will share keys

[pure garnet]

19 minutes at 1.5v and she was donezo

code aB is back @shell void

think the board just barely wants to do it

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt cleets video today.. i just imagine that whole ending is what happens at your house with your son lmao

[merry stirrup]

the cosmic rays

why would they do this

[pure garnet]

i need to try cudimm pcb fr

[merry stirrup]

i want to try at least a better pcb

allegedly greenies have clocked highest on both platforms so i may wanna try some modern greenies

[topaz veldt]

lol im solo with the kids this week - haven't seen the vid yet

[edgy laurel]

him and his son, an RC car as big as the kid, and a ramp. You know

[topaz veldt]

oh yes - definitely. How much shit broke? My new thing is to get our Kraton 6S up to like 20 MPH and go up this giant oak tree we have

[edgy laurel]

nothing, but the closest near miss of RC car to kids head you're likely to see lol

"I don't know if I should post this"

its really just the last 4 minutes of the normal video today.

how did we survive childhood

[topaz veldt]

rofl - oh don't I know it. I use a FlySky Noble NB4+ on our big cars so that I can turn the power down easily - set it to like 20% on 6S and my sons friend just drilled my kid right in the shins. These cars weigh like 15 lbs and have monster torque.

[edgy laurel]

right in the shins i'd expect it to just floor the kid lol

[topaz veldt]

well it like... more "bulldozed" - he couldn't even fall over because it was just like pushing him because the kid didn't know to let go of the f'ing trigger. My son couldn't fall back or forward lol. Poor dude. He was a good sport about it though.

[edgy laurel]

ROUGH lol

[topaz veldt]

Nothing beats the time I was driving my Mojave 6s and my son was racing it on his bike. We're ripping down the driveway doing like 20 mph and Its far enough I can't tell depth. I thought I was behind my son. Cut the wheel to turn around and ended up taking the front wheel of his bike out from under him. Face first into the street. Sigh.

[fringe vigil]

you drive snail?

[edgy laurel]

Oh no!

[topaz veldt]

yeah dad of the year there

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-evans-yeesh-clap-oh-yeah-yup-gif-7324663

[topaz veldt]

we have a long, long driveway so the shame was mostly concealed but the wildlife heard

[fringe vigil]

america houses always have big driveways lol

[topaz veldt]

not always

I can get up to like 85 mph on my driveway before its really unsafe

[slim pebble]

I hope someone got a new bike

[edgy laurel]

generalizing again, it doesn't work in america

[fringe vigil]

ill literally look at the cheapest house in usa and it prob looks like a mansion compared to houses here

[topaz veldt]

bike was fine actually - i think his shifter took a hit, i bought a new one and rebuilt that

[topaz veldt]

I highly doubt that lil bro

[edgy laurel]

extremely far off

[topaz veldt]

My son says "Dad lets see how fast we can get this time!" when we're all in the car and my wife is like "ON THE DRIVEWAY!?"

I was like well theres no reason we can't speed on the driveway. "YES THERE IS. ITS A DRIVEWAY."

[serene grove]

How would i fix rust taking up all my vram

[topaz veldt]

winzip

or WD40

[edgy laurel]

a wire wheel?

[topaz veldt]

rofl great minds

wear goggles

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/blendtec-blender-will-it-blend-dont-breathe-this-smoke-gif-23488626

[thick frost]

Samsung Electro-Mechanics

[slim pebble]

Did your UPS complain?

[low sorrel]

i have broken 10k notfications on discord

should i rread them

[shell void]

naw it doesnt care when i go over 1K

[frank cypress]

3080 is squarely mid end territory today

maybe even upper low end cause no FG (ig lossless scaling exists but)

[merry stirrup]

and is beat by several cards that arent much more

[pure garnet]

an insane amount of voltage is needed to boot 7800c34

[merry stirrup]

what is that voltage

[pure garnet]

1.65v is the first number i've tried that doesn't instantly die

[merry stirrup]

jesus

[pure garnet]

1.5v for c36 btw

[merry stirrup]

r ur dimms trash or something? what bin? just normal 6kc30?

[pure garnet]

h24m 6400 32-39-39-102 1.35v i think

[merry stirrup]

1.45 i reckon

oop

damn thats kinda wild i didnt think my 7k dimms would be much better

i can do 7800c34 at something like 1.55

[pure garnet]

16a is better at dropping cl

[merry stirrup]

yeah it scales better

[pure garnet]

im not dailying this voltage so i'll take a screenshot for the bit then i'll go get my nicer kit

[merry stirrup]

real shit

[topaz veldt]

🤷‍♂️

[pure garnet]

i'll run aida for love the game real fast

another 58 @merry stirrup

[topaz veldt]

single ccd life

[pure garnet]

stinky island processor matching stock monolithic xmp or whatever

[shell void]

heck yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwQHRtrmmK8

[pure garnet]

yeah memory bandwidth of walking there and back

[topaz veldt]

latency low tho

[shell void]

(it's actually like 77ns and aida lies)

[pure garnet]

i don't have a zen 5 chip brochacho

no latency killing here 😎

[shell void]

yeah aida still lies

if you download clam and run it youll get like 76ns

[topaz veldt]

is still not 58 😛

58 would be like 14900K on 8800 CL32

[pure garnet]

oh interesting

[merry stirrup]

i get 52.something ns on my 7600 tuned config what

[shell void]

ramtestpro also shows your real latency and bandwidth

[topaz veldt]

is bug

[shell void]

it doesnt lie and tell you that you have 90GB/s+ write on a 9800x3d lol

[merry stirrup]

its repeatable many times and persists thru bios updates. i dont think so

[topaz veldt]

yes, repeatable defect

[merry stirrup]

a repeatable defect that effects every single one of intels cpus compatible with ddr5?

[shell void]

aida numbers are entirely fake but you can compare aida to aida while tuning for fun

[topaz veldt]

I have had like 47ns, repeated, and trust, its not 47ns

There's some fun bios/agesa bugs too that make it report repeatedly low

[shell void]

werent people able to get aida to show like 32ns on 9900k

[merry stirrup]

yes

[topaz veldt]

dom, etc., all reference clam and ram test pro anymore

[merry stirrup]

well duh, its aida, but if its repeatable across multiple boards of mine and scales differently with X config

[topaz veldt]

yeah i foolishly thought i had some freak with my 7950X3D

[merry stirrup]

my aida results are consistent across the same tune on my edge and 790e

[shell void]

ryzen is actually real world lower latency than arrowlake though somehow

[merry stirrup]

they change if i change the timings

[topaz veldt]

but its inaccurate - you can run shit in the background and make it go even lower sometimes

[shell void]

idk how intel mucked up the d2d fabric so badly if that's the case

[merry stirrup]

well no shit its aida lmao its going to be inaccurate

[shell void]

silicon interposer should be faster

[merry stirrup]

if we want valid latency tests we should be using imlc or clam

[topaz veldt]

no like inaccurate i can kick of aida and at the same time kill a process and it will make up a number

its really only useful for bandwidth estimates

[merry stirrup]

ive had that happen on bad oses but on my ram tune os my aida results are always within a ns or two of eachother

[shell void]

well the fabric used for arrowlake is the first gen from meteorlake so hopefully novalake is lower latency

[merry stirrup]

its not accurate but my aida results arent inconsistent

[pure garnet]

they run it at like 2.4ghz stock

[shell void]

even when max tuned it's still slower than max tune ryzen which confuses me

[topaz veldt]

thats like saying "my car does the same mph every time in 5th gear at 3000 RPM" - thats fine, but the speedometer is wrong

[merry stirrup]

?

[topaz veldt]

?

[merry stirrup]

im saying closing or restarting aida or closing X process doesnt change my aida result

[topaz veldt]

its a glitch dude its not literally that, theres shit going on that will rando make my 9950X3D say like .... 52ns

[merry stirrup]

it does, within a few NS, but never any more than that, i dont see 10ns shifts with a retest or system restart

[shell void]

at least youre getting 140GB/s to make up for it being like 5-10ns slower, but raptorlake can do that and have the lowest latency

[pure garnet]

yeah but on raptor you get the cursed imc at high freq

[topaz veldt]

140 GBs?

[shell void]

well it's more like 130 at 8600 isnt it

[topaz veldt]

140 GB/s is like 8800-9000

8600 is like 127

[pure garnet]

trying gdm off for jokes

[topaz veldt]

if its not GDM Off stable its not stable

[pure garnet]

maybe i can get 56ns in aida (real)

[merry stirrup]

max 8k bw is 128GB/s

[topaz veldt]

yeah with extremely tight everything and goodness

[merry stirrup]

well yeah thats theoretical

[topaz veldt]

most 8000 daily tunes will be like 122-125

[merry stirrup]

thats like obtained via math

[topaz veldt]

8400-8600 around 127

I am just talking "actually have done it"

[shell void]

the lion cranks vccsa and vimc and then replaces his 14900k in two years

[merry stirrup]

i get 121GB/s on my 7600 config which is the theoretical max

[topaz veldt]

140 is that dream number

[merry stirrup]

well, close to

[pure garnet]

gdm off was no boot i think i cursed myself

i’ll investigate further shortly

[topaz veldt]

And then I fire up a 6248R xeon box and it does like 210 GB/s on DDR4 lol

[shell void]

dont you have some 8000mt/s xeon servers at work?

that's gotta be your fastest mem speed

[topaz veldt]

@merry stirrup here's one - this is not real

[topaz veldt]

nah because its too limiting still

[merry stirrup]

on an entirly different platform with bios settings that can lower aida latency

[shell void]

too small capacity?

[merry stirrup]

that are designed to lower aida latency*

[topaz veldt]

ya max of 512

[shell void]

107GB/s write 🔥 (not physically possible)

[frank cypress]

[merry stirrup]

im not syaing my results are real latency, however, invalidating them despite them being consistent across 2 boards isnt fair lol

[shell void]

?

[frank cypress]

[topaz veldt]

like sorry but 7950X3D is not doing 57

[steel stream]

hmm

[topaz veldt]

here's bw for 8200

vs 8400

[shell void]

shutterstock

[topaz veldt]

@shell void for funsies

[shell void]

skylake neva die

80ns on dual slow xeons with jedec ram is further proof that aida is a meme

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[fringe vigil]

snails the one on the right

tipp

[topaz veldt]

just the

Michael I think the MRDIMMs at 8000 are like... CL46 or CL52 or something hilarious

but 8 or 12 channel 8000 has to be insane bandwidth

I should order one for "research" purposes

[shell void]

it’s way lower than you’d expect

[topaz veldt]

do you have any references?

has to be like 250GB/s or more

I would hope over 300

[shell void]

the 8800 ones are cl36 1.1v xddd

https://www.crucial.com/memory/server-ddr5/mtc40f4086s1hc88xd1r?

it’s basically two 4400 dimms stitched together so they inherit the latency of 4400 jedec

the 12800mt/s gen 2 mrdimms will be cl58 1.1v

[topaz veldt]

lol yeah but those aren't in service yet on any of my platofrms its all mrdimm 8000

[shell void]

i’m not sure who would have posted test results, maybe phoronix

[pure garnet]

odds 8000 xmp boots

[topaz veldt]

I am going to try the 1715 beta bios people are on about and see if 8200 is stable

maybe i'll bios switch it so i can keep my 8000 CL32 1603 or whatever

[fervent elm]

Aughh whyy https://share.google/qvcNtJsee5tILUvnC

[merry stirrup]

why must we do this

they made it not oem only wow

[pure garnet]

i don’t think the 8000 pcb is any magic sauce floppa

[merry stirrup]

doesn’t work(

but also pcb quality probably won’t help if it’s your imc that’s the problem

[pure garnet]

well it failed xmp but manual appears to boot

still slamming vddio though

lemme try rebooting to get this out of the way

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[pure garnet]

time to run the joke bench

59ns!!!!

these dimms are ice cold

35c

[merry stirrup]

the lion ignores the weird memory gap between 4 and 12

[pure garnet]

yeah it ab'd now

[merry stirrup]

i’ve seen a lot of people say their better pcbs run way cooler

[pure garnet]

guess i need an mpower

[merry stirrup]

i don’t think it’s because of the pcb cause some people even say that like one of their dimms is significantly warmer

i’m thinkin bad or different temp sensors

[topaz veldt]

yayyy

[merry stirrup]

b850 mpower does look really good

i like the nvme slot right by the ram

on z790mpower that area looks very weird

like they wanted to put an nvme there but they decided nah

[topaz veldt]

x870e apex bios switch is in wtf spot

[merry stirrup]

i forget high end asus gets manual bios switch

[edgy laurel]

i have this, it nice

[merry stirrup]

it’s cool looking it just makes that area look better esp for matx oc boards

[pure garnet]

til apex is dual bios

[pure garnet]

low low price of $600

[merry stirrup]

it’s still neat. all the other dual bios is automatic

[pure garnet]

im still getting sub 60 aida

meme number but funny how consistent it is no matter the setup

[merry stirrup]

run clam from 131072kb onward

[pure garnet]

no im running karhu bc this is actual tune attempt now

[merry stirrup]

oop my bad

eight k?

[pure garnet]

7.8k cope

didn't even make it out of the chair

[wraith steeple]

Sorry for late reply, yes they're based in NY

[pure garnet]

1.35v was too low for 7800c36

[topaz veldt]

My order shipped today, will be here tomorrow

[wraith steeple]

Let's goooooo

[topaz veldt]

thats just the HK block

I have to wait until mario is back from vacation for him to modify my plate

[steel stream]

Is he in another castle or something?

[topaz veldt]

yes

[steel stream]

bummer

[topaz veldt]

with luigio

[steel stream]

with peach?

@shell void don't you have these?

https://ebay.us/m/kzkHmt

[topaz veldt]

I should really sell my 5x Dell R740s

what the ass

[steel stream]

empty space is good space right?

[topaz veldt]

That's two CPUs

[steel stream]

oh

[topaz veldt]

Second heatsink is active so weird

[shell void]

i have the pooron version

lsx ii LT

[steel stream]

I am trying to find any sort of replacements for the damaged cone

cause like $350 + parts would be a steal

[shell void]

theyre dead jim

[steel stream]

shhh shhhhhh shhhhhh

[pure garnet]

michael i need another $40 fan

[vestal granite]

glue 20 arctic p12s together to make one giant barrel of airflow

[pure garnet]

5 a12x25s cost more than my tv

[vestal granite]

its much harder to make a fan than it is to make a TV

[wise bear]

well, no

3d printer? fan ezpz

[vestal granite]

you mean to tell me that creating vibrant images out of millions of microscopic lights is harder than making plastic spin in a direction?

preposterous

[shell void]

you need to sell all of your noctuas and replace them with lianli sl infinity fans

[pure garnet]

i’m going to throw this board in the bin shortly

how does my crap kit preform better than my good kit

[edgy laurel]

@low sorrel what is this starting grid

[pallid marsh]

https://www.techradar.com/pro/asus-just-launched-another-162-inch-4k-micro-led-monitor-yes-a-monitor-not-a-tv-and-its-almost-as-big-as-a-wall 162 inch monitor

[frank zealot]

That's a 13.5' diagonal

What the actual fuck

We now know what Linus' next tv is

[edgy laurel]

not a good tv

not nearly as bright as he's been working with

[pure garnet]

does the ppi not suck at that size

or does it balance out from you having to sit a room away

[frank zealot]

It's still 4k

[edgy laurel]

i mean, you'd be very far away, not sure it would matter

[shell void]

ppi is irrelevant if you can adjust viewing distance

all that actually matters is resolution and ppd

[frank zealot]

And on a 13' TV you can easily adjust

[turbid locust]

need me 5K 240Hz LG C7

plz LG 🙏🏼

[shell void]

that would be the coolest of beans

[turbid locust]

Reminder I had a basically 0 PPI buff going from 27” 1440p to 42” 4K

[edgy laurel]

i can't see them doin 5K TV's anytime soon

unless it becomes a broadcast standard

[turbid locust]

8K then yolo

[shell void]

but you got a way deeper desk and a higher resolution so it still looks a lot nicer

[pure garnet]

i just went from 39 1080 to 43 4k and the resolution is way more noticeable than i expected even without glasses

[ripe needle]

Are there any good alternatives to fiber optic?

[shell void]

for what purpose

[turbid locust]

Copper

[ripe needle]

I just moved and i cant get fiber optic where i live

[edgy laurel]

fiber optic what

[ripe needle]

The internet

[shell void]

if you cant get fiber then cable internet is the next best option if your cable provider has reliable service

[turbid locust]

The good alternative is whatever Internet is available lmao

[edgy laurel]

this depends entirely on whats available in your area, which we don't know

[pure garnet]

just check what providers work in the area

[ripe needle]

I dont have cable provider 😭

[shell void]

if your cable provider is super slow or unreliable then your third best option is 5G home internet from verizon

fourth option tmobile home internet

[indigo walrus]

So... what options do you have then? We don't know where you live (and you shouldn't share your location with strangers), so ultimately you'll need to look at the options available at your address...

[turbid locust]

bro ask what your neighbors have ffs

[edgy laurel]

Ok, who does provide internet in your area? Talk to them

[ripe needle]

Thats what i was looking into

[ripe needle]

No clue i just got here yo

[ripe needle]

Anything but that

[shell void]

if you dont mind CGNAT (you dont get a static public ipv4 address so hosting services is annoying) then tmobile home internet is chill

[turbid locust]

anything but help yourself

[shell void]

you can get up to around 1000 down and 100 up

[edgy laurel]

michael..

[ripe needle]

They have tmobile

[shell void]

?

[turbid locust]

“Internet providers in city you live in”

[edgy laurel]

lol you just switched languages

[turbid locust]

It’s not hard

[pure garnet]

i think if we’re defining an isp we probably don’t have to worry about needing self hosting stuff

[shell void]

tldr in the usa:

1. fiber
2. cable
3. verizon 5g home
4. tmobile 5g home
5. starlink

[edgy laurel]

this

[whole coral]

2 GHz. Interesting

Should improve direct to cell performance

[shell void]

i need muh fiber

the isp planning to serve my city eventually needs to hurry up

[whole coral]

I’ve seen T-Mobile satellite speedtesting and its not too impressive

2 Mbps download and like 0.5 Mbps upload

Better than nothing though

[shell void]

worse than DSL

[arctic bronze]

thats basically nothing

[pure garnet]

i’ve been raging at my board but it’s my fault for typing in a primary wrong

maybe i’m the problem

[whole coral]

Also this happened today lol

I asked the builder and he said they are preparing to put up fiber on the poles

[arctic bronze]

you already posted about this

[shell void]

hell yeah

[whole coral]

They need to hurry up

He says they will start in 3 months

[shell void]

supposedly gonetspeed is great, but they use CGNAT by default

you can call and pay $15/month for your own ipv4

[ripe needle]

Bro smth crazy just happened

[whole coral]

I think GoNetSpeed will finish by late 2026

[ripe needle]

There was some fair thats been going on all week

[whole coral]

They will go neighborhood by neighborhood. I don’t think it will be fast

[ripe needle]

And there was an active shooting 😭

No one was hurt but still its crazy to me

America

[frank cypress]

lentils or black beans

[whole coral]

I hope they go down my neighborhood. I’m in a decently dense area of the city so it’s a good possibility

[shell void]

ive never had lentils

[frank cypress]

they have the fiber you need

[shell void]

their service isnt really any better than the ISP offering you 2.5Gbps fiber right now, but maybe itll start a price war

[whole coral]

It absolutely will

Also no contracts

2 gig from Cox is $150 a month. From the new ISP it’s $65 a month (first year promo though)

[shell void]

a different city in my state has gonetspeed, i checked their pricing and it's $85 temporarily and $105 after one year for their 2gig plan

-$10 after autopay discounts and such

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[whole coral]

Also there’s still people on coax in this city. So they will definitely be upgrading more people to fiber just to prevent churn

[shell void]

i never have twin

[frank cypress]

its why he needs fiber

[whole coral]

I need more fiber tbh

Black beans = awesome fiber

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/not-the-same-we-are-not-the-same-not-the-same-as-we-were-different-winter-gif-12189139

[whole coral]

Black beans taste surprisingly good. At first I thought they looked disgusting lol

Brown beans are nice too

[low sorrel]

did you not watch quali

[thick frost]

ba ba

[hoary hatch]

I just ate lentil soup

[low sorrel]

wtf is a lentil

[hoary hatch]

Legume

[low sorrel]

wtf iis legumme

[hoary hatch]

Plants

[edgy laurel]

thats what I was talking about

[low sorrel]

oh

why did max have to take sainz pole

[brisk jolt]

because ferrari disasterclass

[wise bear]

fewwawi

[topaz veldt]

so tired

[wise bear]

So go sleep

[turbid locust]

The Xbox doesn’t have wifi 6 wtf

[pure garnet]

it doesn’t???

[topaz veldt]

HA

[wise bear]

GO SLEEP

[topaz veldt]

I am convinced the only thing with Wifi 6 is Macbooks

[wise bear]

I will woman at you until you go to bed

[topaz veldt]

I don't listen to anyone so save it

[topaz veldt]

ah shit actually

i need to 3d print some shit

[wise bear]

god dammit

I give up

Time for coffee.

[pure garnet]

apparently they added it in a hardware revision

[wise bear]

NICE

if only it was 6e

[turbid locust]

hmmm I’ll have to check when I get it I guess

Not like Microsoft downloads will even be remotely fast enough to use my bandwidth

[topaz veldt]

I think I might buy a cnc router

[turbid locust]

sick

[wise bear]

get a pocketnc

[topaz veldt]

my mill has been down for eons and i dont even remember what i need to put it back together

[wise bear]

https://www.pentamachine.com/all-products/p/pocket-nc-v2-50chb-or-chk

[topaz veldt]

I want to make distro plates

[topaz veldt]

yeah I know an RC/small engine guy that uses this, but I need bigger x/y travel

[turbid locust]

was excited for about 4ms until I saw price

[pure garnet]

woah that’s a little baby one

i use a 96x48” at work

[topaz veldt]

I want a highly accurate like 24x24

[pure garnet]

idk anything about the multi axis ones

[topaz veldt]

I just need x/y 24" and like 3" of Z

[pure garnet]

avid might make a kit?

[wise bear]

mill yourself a homebrew rotary for a scooter

cmon, doit

[pure garnet]

i use an avidcnc pro and with the sensors it’s pretty easy to run

oh they do actually

https://www.avidcnc.com/benchtop-pro-2424-2-x-2-cnc-machine-p-1332.html

[topaz veldt]

avid shit is like... stupid

[thick frost]

GONG

[topaz veldt]

they're benchtop shit is like $8k

[fringe vigil]

hi

[wise bear]

nuh uh

[topaz veldt]

I had done a DIY plasma cutter

[thick frost]

Are old pcbs actually just that thin

the glow is the rgb from my computer lmao

[wise bear]

fewer layers, less dense

[thick frost]

It’s funky lookin lol

[wise bear]

its an old pcb

[thick frost]

It do be that

Creative sound blaster awe32 from 1995

[wise bear]

with an ide controller and edo ram buffer

all on an isa bus

[thick frost]

The ide thingy is for the expansion card

[wise bear]

Wiiild

[thick frost]

It has a separate upgrade module, I don’t know what it does and it goes for $60 so no thanks

Now we got all the sound buffer🔥

Original ram from my Mac se before I upgraded it, that’s real 512kb right there

[languid nimbus]

I just told a dude who had bios issues to use a USB thumb drive with a cable from USB A to C to download a new bios on his phone to thumb drive and then plug the thumb drive into the PC. Somehow it works

[pure garnet]

the u in usb stands for universal

[languid nimbus]

I actually that wouldn't work lol but I guess DIYing the issue worked

[vagrant cargo]

i miss old nvidia and how they would increase vram as a card got higher in the series

compared to what we got now where we see most of them have either 8gb or 12gb max

[pure garnet]

5090 - 32
5080 - 16
5070ti - 16
5070 - 12
5060ti - 16/8
5060 - 8

[vagrant cargo]

i personally think the 5070 should of been the gpu with 16gb vram

[pure garnet]

did you not check your own point?

[vagrant cargo]

tbh i get gpus mixed up

ive owned too many my mind is mush

the main thing with 5000 what i find odd is having 5080 at 16 vram

24 would of made sense for it and made it a ton better

its alright atm but could of been perfection

[pure garnet]

to do what with

[brisk jolt]

5080 is lowk underpowered to use 24 for gaming

20 wouldve been the sweet spot for a 5080

[pure garnet]

how are you putting 20 on it

[brisk jolt]

its based on bit bus

super refresh is just using 3gb modules without changing jackshit

[pure garnet]

ik

that's why im asking how we're geting to 20

[brisk jolt]

what i meant is original design, smth like a 320 bit bus wouldve been better suited

but ofc that gives them less reason to do a refresh

[topaz veldt]

Like it nor not Nvidia did it exactly right

5080 users settle with 16GB or they jump an insane amount more to the 5090

Now, "right" depends on your perspective

[thick frost]

gwafiks

[topaz veldt]

ok

[livid flame]

That’s one hell of a graphics chip

Reminds me of the days of doom and duke nukem 3d on floppies

[topaz veldt]

thats precisely when its from

[livid flame]

I don’t. It performs lesser than a 4090 with 24gb and it’s not much better performing than a 4080 that a user should need the extra ram at the performance point

I agree with snail here. If you need the vram of a 5090, you need the processing power too. So you buy that

[strange ginkgo]

at least not yet. having less vram just limits the options what can be done with the card

[livid flame]

16gb is fine

It’s a consumer gpu designed for gaming

[strange ginkgo]

and game requirements go up

[pure garnet]

it’s always ai bros that want 40gb on the $300 gaming card

[livid flame]

If you need more than 16gb for your game requirements then you need a 5090 then

Because that means you want ultra 4k

Entry level 4k for 5080. High end 1440p

[topaz veldt]

I appreciate people thinking 16GB is limiting but its really not, and then the next thing people say is "yeah but in 5 years..." right so like if you expect to play 4K on ultra in 5 years you prob also expect to buy another GPU

For today +1-3 years its a more than enoughu

[livid flame]

Game requirements haven’t gone up a lot at all.

Not on vram

Sure you’ve got more games around 10-12gb usage but if you’ve got 16gb and complaining you’re genuinely a fool

[vagrant cargo]

so im curiously do we know or have enough from leaks and other stuff to show what upgrades the supers will have im assuming mostly in memory

is whats getting upgraded

[livid flame]

I mean a good 4k oled monitor is probably what. £800-£1000? A decent 1440p ips is around £200? So if you’re prepared to spend 4x more on a monitor to go to the next tier of visuals you should be going 2x/2.5x more expensive from 5080 to 5090

That’s just the jump in price you pay

[cloud vigil]

yeah, as a person whos 4080 is overclocked to be faster than a 5080, it's good for 1440p ultra >100fps

[strange ginkgo]

actually i do expect my GPU to last longer than 5 years. the price has gone up a lot and there is no sign of consumer friendly pricing in the future

before i upgraded in 2023 i was still using gtx 960

[cloud vigil]

I'm even an AI person and this GPU is plenty. There isn't much that a 24GB LLM CAN do and a 16GB LLM CAN'T do

and if you're really a hardcore AIbro: two 5060Ti 16GBs are cheaper than a 5090 (although that will be slower)

[vagrant cargo]

before i upgraded my pc setup a few years ago i was using im pretty sure the 3070

i then upgraded to the 4080 super

[livid flame]

My 7800xt 16gb will last 5 years

Just might have to reduce my expectations

So why shouldn’t you?

[topaz veldt]

I don't think someone who comes from a 960 is spending $1200-1500 on a GPU

[vagrant cargo]

my current gpu is the 5080

i have the palit gaming pro oc

tbh ive noticed with the last 2 gpus i owned im just always going palit

[cloud vigil]

I mean, I had an RX6600 in my PC for a while before the 4080 arrived and that was usable for 180hz QHD gaming in most games, and in indie titles it could actually run at the full framerate

[livid flame]

Problem with a lot of people in the pc community is they now have the entitled woke expectation of a console gamer

[cloud vigil]

I have my 4080S running at 160W (1/2 stock TDP) because it's quieter and it's only a ~10% to ~20% performance loss

[topaz veldt]

I think people are too quick to dismiss Geforce Now

[livid flame]

I will buy whatever tbh

I’m a price point buyer

I know I can buy better performing… but I don’t actually need it

[cloud vigil]

quad SLI B580s in this club

[livid flame]

I’d love a 5090 but fuck man. For 2k I’ve got the rest of my build. And tbh, I don’t play games that will ever stretch it. When I do, it’s odd occasion.

[cloud vigil]

we're pushing as many bluescreens-per-watt as we can

[livid flame]

I mean I use 1.6gb ram playing osrs.

Might aswell just use an rx 580

My kid plays Fortnite native. He don’t need no 5080 or 5090 for that

[cloud vigil]

thing is, there's a HUGE difference between "can play all games at max settings" and "can play most games at max settings, and the others are tolerable". One will require a 5080-type GPU, the other just needs a 9060XT or even an RX7600 or something.

hell, integrated graphics will be good enough for a solid 1/2 of indie titles.

[livid flame]

Tbh if I was buying now I’d get a 5070ti

When I was buying for that same price point it was a 7900xt.

Like no one making a jump from a 7800xt to 7900xt for £300-350

But you’d make that jump from a 5060ti to 5070ti in a heartbeat tbh

[fervent elm]

9070xt perchance

[merry stirrup]

am4 shitter guy responded to me

best day evar

some b350 board.
ryzen 3 something
rx 580
shitter mixed ddr4
unknown psu
unknown storage

[sick wadi]

Sounds great, how much he asking lol

[merry stirrup]

hunnid

good price

[low sorrel]

yeah good riice

[sick wadi]

Indeed

[low sorrel]

holy shit i need a new keeyyboard

[merry stirrup]

worth 200 if i wanna just flip it after i clean it

at least if i flip ill list for 250

easy racks i dont mind that

[orchid frost]

Is this a good PC? https://www.ubereats.com/store-browse-uuid/c2c29ba1-e685-55d8-974b-5bdf63042598/d09d49b3-2e37-517e-8dab-c24dec8fbc75/7d2a3153-3605-5fd1-b043-a0baa54925ab/d097a466-99ee-5653-817d-0428c2b0994f?storeInfoHeader=true

[green marsh]

qwen2.5-coder:14b (9GB model for 16GB card) vs :32b (20GB model for 24GB card) 😛

or deepseek-r1:14B vs :32B (same file sizes)

[livid flame]

You can buy a pc on uber eats? Including ibuypowers poorly assembled old stock? Worlds wild now

[thick frost]

Naturally

[green marsh]

to be honest, if i was going real hard on AI models, i would just get the 128GB version of framework desktop

it can run the large 70B models to my knowledge, and while $2400 ain't cheap, it is not as problematic as other options

[cloud vigil]

or even just DDR5 it tbh. It'll take a while and it'll pull a lot of power 🤣

oh, what about something like the ryzen 8600G? give that DDR5-8600 and an iGPU overclock and it might haul

[cloud vigil]

this still wins though (except in price)

[green marsh]

afaik you can assign 112 of 128GB as VRAM, and it being unified LPDDR5X-8000 memory, it won't be that slow. And it will certainly be cheaper than getting four 3090's (which is still going to be only 96GB VRAM and use way more power)

[livid flame]

Did someone just try to phish? And not for food?

[cloud vigil]

even better, it's not just LPDDR5X-8000, it's QUAD CHANNEL (aka 256-bit) so you get ~256GB/s memory bandwidth

[vagrant cargo]

apparently the monitor ive pre-ordered what im waiting for release for isnt the only 4k monitor that isnt oled that can do a dual mode

there is a ips one that can do so and another lcd mini led monitor

or ips i need to look at it

[opaque spindle]

Is around 75-80 temp normal for 9600x running at 100%/doing cinebench?

[orchid frost]

Is it 😭

Good 😭😭😭😭

[livid flame]

Yup

[opaque spindle]

is 900 score on cinebench multicore good for 9600x?

[brisk jolt]

go check benchmark results on sites

or go ask AI idk

[opaque spindle]

so 400 score less which I mean isn't bad

I had some stuff open I think

[minor herald]

95C is thermal limit

[minor herald]

its the worse score i seen if your meaning R24 allcore

[opaque spindle]

I mean 2024

[minor herald]

yep worse score by a bit

[livid flame]

That can’t be multi core surely

[minor herald]

a good one is up around 1200 in allcore

[livid flame]

Below 1k is not where I’d expect it

[minor herald]

the lowset i seen is 991 out of 20

[minor herald]

you runninig it at 65 mode?

or 105 mode?

[minor herald]

dose r24 care about fucked memory settings?

since the worse score i can find has bad memory/kind of bad cooler and its still a still 10% higehr

[opaque spindle]

I think 65 version

[minor herald]

that makes sense limiting power to 88W over 142W dose affect a bit in allcore

[minor herald]

if you like to tune it #overclocking

[opaque spindle]

yea 65

[minor herald]

ok want to tune it

[opaque spindle]

I mean it works fine in gaming so idk

[minor herald]

whats the memory tab showing?

[opaque spindle]

I do got a 850w supply

[opaque spindle]

just ram stuff

[whole coral]

Bro you have got to be kidding me

[minor herald]

we can do better

[whole coral]

It seems like my address isn’t eligible for the fiber rollout

I wonder why

[minor herald]

RIP still going to be stuck at 50mbit/s

[opaque spindle]

yea I got like 80mbs

[whole coral]

I already have fiber lol. I’m not too mad but it’s still annoying

[opaque spindle]

can get max 100 here 🙏

[whole coral]

300 Mbps symmetrical. Could get 2 gig symmetrical

[minor herald]

wow you ping so good

[whole coral]

I can get 3 ms ping to my ISP office

[opaque spindle]

OC?

[opaque spindle]

💔

[minor herald]

welp fixing the bad memory timings/tuninig the PB2 partimiers

[whole coral]

Yuck

[opaque spindle]

you can change CL timing?

[minor herald]

i be shocked if we cant get it to 28

but it dose not help

[shell void]

from gonetspeed?

they seem to prioritize people that don’t already have the option of fiber

based on what they’ve said in interviews that i’ve watched

[opaque spindle]

damn didn't know that. didn't reasearch anything about overclocking stuff

knowing my luck I'd fry it

[minor herald]

unless ou do somtihng like set 1.9V you will not

[minor herald]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
https://zentimings.com/ for ram
for cpu https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/qikcbd/zen_3_pbo_curve_optimiser_tweaking_guide/

buildzoid easy timings offen around 10% faster then xmp

[shell void]

6000cl36-36-36 is probably not hynix memory

[topaz veldt]

micronian

[whole coral]

Hmmm

I see

[turbid locust]

5nail did you see my ping yesterday

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure

[turbid locust]

I got a haircut

[opaque spindle]

Thanks

[topaz veldt]

You are an absolute equivacator @turbid locust

[turbid locust]

Equivocator*

[shell void]

stand for the pledge of allegiance worms

[turbid locust]

rahhhh what the fuck is an efficient gaming cpu

[shell void]

buddy ripped the usb hood off

[torpid blaze]

I hate math until its about financing my computer/interests

[green marsh]

i managed to do that too, but on vertical USB 3.0 header. In any case, you still got a second one

[green marsh]

there is a second reinforced one next to to the 24-pin

(and yeah, i hate the 3.0 header, it is a stupid design where you can easily pull the plastic off

(or break the pin too)

[shell void]

yeah ive broken one too, it’s a stupid connector

[green marsh]

i have broken one pin in one connector (long time ago) and pulled off the whole plastic on another (but pushed it back no problem, should glue it tho)

[edgy laurel]

[edgy laurel]

you already know

so memory nerds, whats the deal with this new standard AMD seems to be backing?

yay? nay?

[edgy laurel]

someone needs to take that account away from you

[topaz veldt]

Lol local bro you can never take it away

[edgy laurel]

oh no

[turbid locust]

I’m unaware. TLDR?

[topaz veldt]

I'll just do more locally

[edgy laurel]

New patent floating around, "HB-DIMM" https://forum.level1techs.com/t/amds-answer-to-mrdimm-and-lp-camm2-hb-dimm/237528
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1noia4l/amd_patents_new_improved_ram_architecture_as_ddr5/

"Each HB-DIMM boasts multiple DRAM chips connected to data buffer chips, which transmit data at twice the current speeds. It practically doubles the data rate to 12.8 Gbps on the memory bus, twice the current native 6.4 Gbps speeds"

patent https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US462838503&_cid=P11-MF91MU-45154-1

[turbid locust]

Looks pretty cool ngl

If it’s OC-able I’ll have fun with it

[edgy laurel]

btw i know you were talking about a new game, the bf6 campaign trailer dropped yesterday #gaming message

[shell void]

if it’s meant to compete against mrdimm then it’s a nothingburger to consumers

[topaz veldt]

please be good, please be good

[turbid locust]

TIL; my phone can record 4K120 lol

[shell void]

new qualcomm laptop cpu with 18 cores