tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

i can't put that on a $3k gpu

[shell void]

yeah it's not nice looking at all

it performs well but it wouldnt make me happy

[pure garnet]

looks like a 5060 block

[topaz veldt]

TG announced they have one coming but its at the literal end of their list

[pure garnet]

is there any real benefit to putting the master on water

i thought the cooler was good and it’s not like it can handle the 1000w bios

[shell void]

it looks cool and you stop cooking your ram

[topaz veldt]

I might need to physically

[shell void]

that would be nice

i cant find the news post about it

[topaz veldt]

@slim pebble I was cleaning up a workbench in my garage along with my detail cabinet and found 3 bottles of EK clear lol

[slim pebble]

Nice, I actually bought a few from Titan rig when I broke down my loop for cleaning a few weeks ago

Had to clean the block fins, etc

[granite dirge]

eBay is insane if I had won a auction for 3000$ usd and need to pay tax on that ... I'm not paying 101$ shipping .

Like it's a 1:500 board. Sure but 101$ shipping is a hard pass.

[fringe vigil]

don’t clown react me

[steel stream]

idk if I am paying that much for a board, shipping that is <4% of the final cost is that big a deal for me

as well as ensuring that it is shipped properly

[granite dirge]

A skateboard costs 17$ to ship cross country with ups ..

[pure garnet]

if i’m buying a signed limited time thing id expect it crated tbh

[steel stream]

Yeah that's my thoughts too, I would pay extra for premium shipping/handling as well as packaging material

[granite dirge]

I mean given a skateboard is 8.5x32 I don't think anyone is crating that

In inches.

[pure garnet]

i know 32x32 from work got crated once

i’d imagine if they’re willing to pay ups is willing to do it

[nova trout]

It’s not 4500
It’s 4600
Sun tzu art of auction

[merry stirrup]

wtf is the difference between the er and urgent care

this is easily the first time i’ve been to the doctor in 10 years

[orchid kernel]

anyone good with memory overclocks

[granite dirge]

I can answer this I work in insurance

Er is emergency care urgent care is things your PCP can do but you need faster than a primary care visit

[steel stream]

Our current expert seems to be at the urgent care

[topaz veldt]

Doh

[granite dirge]

Like... Say you needed something lanced. You can go to a pcp or urgent care cause an emergency room is overkill for that level of care.

[frank cypress]

hmmmmm

[granite dirge]

Also urgent care is cheaper usually than emergency room

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/whyareyoublue-walterwhite-breakingbad-blue-jesse-gif-12242572209403578115

[orchid kernel]

chatgpt is telling my to fuck with my voltages and that's where i stop myself from making a poor choice

[frank cypress]

40 cad 1tb drives feels... kinda not bad?

[steel stream]

please do not use chatgpt for overclocking

Go to forums

[orchid kernel]

yeah i was just using to to diagnose a quick problem

[granite dirge]

Please do not use chat gpt period.

[frank cypress]

let it happen

it will be funny

I need this entertainment akn

[shell void]

primary care doctor: longer term less serious problems and checkups
urgent care: moderate problems
emergency room: im going to die

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/tame-impala-currents-tame-impala-eventually-gif-10889314917520098134

[shell void]

that's how theyre supposed to be used anyway

[orchid kernel]

the xmp profile im using is unstable on a brand new 14900k and i really have no idea why.

[shell void]

a lot of people go to the ER and say they have the flu or something else unserious and it pisses the staff off

[frank cypress]

what profile

how much ram are you running

details

[steel stream]

are you running 4 or 2 sticks

[orchid kernel]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BJ7X9P1W

[topaz veldt]

And dried out. Thought I did duronaut apparently not

[orchid kernel]

ive never fucked with memory overclocking other than just hitting the xmp so i have no idea what im doing

but OCCT is reporting that it's unstable

[granite dirge]

And then they complain to me at my job as to why we didn't cover it

[orchid kernel]

damn that kit is expensive, $50 more than what i bought it for a year ago

[orchid kernel]

just 2

[frank cypress]

suzi

did you buy the intel skateboard

[pure garnet]

you might have the worst binned imc i’ve seen for a 14900k if it can’t do 6400

i’d try reseating ram/update bios if need be but

oof

[frank cypress]

throw it away at that point

[pure garnet]

fr

[frank cypress]

[low sorrel]

ER: I am going to die
urgent care: i'm not gonna die but...
PCP: anything else

[pure garnet]

i need a z790 tachyon for my 12900ks

[frank cypress]

no balls

[orchid kernel]

you think so?

it was a warranty replacement for my old one which killed itself

[pure garnet]

yeah no i’m good rn, i just got fleeced $80 for 2 noctua fans

[orchid kernel]

i promise i didnt just get a new 14900k because i wanted one

[frank cypress]

honestly.... they're kinda worth

[pure garnet]

yeah i’ll have 5 of them in my case on wednesday

and then 2 bequiet 140mms

[frank cypress]

I went through a couple phases, started with ofc im buying novtua, then I went like fuck no they're so overpriced and now im back to they're kinda worth....

[orchid kernel]

you dont think it could be anything else

[frank cypress]

its what bad fans will do to a mofo

[frank cypress]

lmaoooo

[pure garnet]

do you use the stock ilm or a third party bracket

[low sorrel]

i hate you

[orchid kernel]

not sure what this means sorry

[low sorrel]

isn't the duunning kruuger effect not a thing

[orchid kernel]

the extent of my overclocking knowledge is pretty limited

[pure garnet]

did you replace the way the cpu is installed to the board

or do you have the lever still

[steel stream]

i've never heard that before

[orchid kernel]

the lever is there

[pure garnet]

you could try re installing and checking for bent pins

[orchid kernel]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios

[orchid kernel]

pretty sure nothing is physically damaged, i installed it like 20 minutes ago

[low sorrel]

my overclocking knowledge is just @ floppa

[granite dirge]

Your not the only one and so do I

I'm also actively looking for a less stressful job

[pure garnet]

try tightening the cooler down some more but aside from bad contact if it’s previously stable then i think it’s the cpu

[turbid locust]

what board we running

[pure garnet]

z790 aorus elite apparently

[orchid kernel]

its stable without xmp enabled

and i havent crashed or anything yet its just occt telling me its instable

[pure garnet]

yeah but if it’s failing stress tests it’s unstable

[orchid kernel]

iirc i had similar issues with my previous 14900k and xmp as well

can i try to run it at like 6000 or something?

[pure garnet]

are you on the latest bios

[topaz veldt]

Wooo! FL house taxes not going up

[orchid kernel]

updated it 20 minutes ago as well

[pure garnet]

that’s bizarre

[granite dirge]

Word

[steel stream]

Nice!

[orchid kernel]

im honestly fine not running the kit at its top speed its just that stock it's 4800mhz which is pretty slow for ddr5 afaik

[topaz veldt]

Hotly debated topic down there the board met last night and agreed on a policy

[pure garnet]

you could try 6000 30 38 38 76 at the same voltages yeah

[orchid kernel]

ive never fucked with that is it pretty straightforward

like setting the timings

[pure garnet]

yeah on my z890 board they’re just down the list

[orchid kernel]

this exact config would be fine for my kit?

[pure garnet]

should be

[orchid kernel]

could it literally just be the kit itself

[pure garnet]

you could also just load xmp and set the speed to 6000 after

that’s easier but only a bit slower

[orchid kernel]

Its a bit hard to see, but can I literally just put that second line from auto -> 6000

Without fucking with anything else

[pure garnet]

yes

[orchid kernel]

Cool

Kinda forgot they made this shit a lot simpler since when I used to be super into it back in 2017

[orchid kernel]

This wouldnt work on my kit since its CL32 right?

[pure garnet]

when you go down on speed you can usually go down on cl

tras might’ve needed to be higher since it’s 102 on yours but it probably would’ve worked

[orchid kernel]

gonna pretend i know what that means 😅

[pure garnet]

it was the last timing in the list

[orchid kernel]

6000 appears to be stable

gonna leave it going for 10 mins

[granite dirge]

Gonna drop this gem of the evening and hope you all have a wonderful night https://youtu.be/McOtbbyU8Qs?si=v4Mhy0ELfuiDNQGH

[pure garnet]

let it go the hour

[orchid kernel]

my pcores are only getting as high as 81 degrees might fuck around and find out

they can probably handle 59 or 58 at least

question is do i wanna find out in 12 months that i need another warranty replacement

[pure garnet]

i would personally go the other way

i’d run like 5.5 and minimize voltages

so i don’t need another one in 6 months

[orchid kernel]

surely the 4th microcode update fixed it right

[shell void]

unlikely

[orchid kernel]

i could atleast try 6133 on the ram ig

[shell void]

even 5.7GHz with hyperthreading enabled is asking a lot from the average 14900k that isnt delidded

that'll be like 345W in cinebench r23

[orchid kernel]

really?

i had my old one running at 60 lol

[shell void]

probs unstable asf

[orchid kernel]

maybe thats why it killed itself

[pure garnet]

and how long did the old one last

[orchid kernel]

11 months

[pure garnet]

michael would you eco numbers work on the 13700k

[shell void]

i recommend disabling hyperthreading and then undervolting it, but you are free to play with it how youd like

[pure garnet]

might just slap those in next time i update bios

[orchid kernel]

it was stable at 60 when i set it up

[pure garnet]

how did you stability test it

[floral spear]

I got a very stupid idea that's been brewing in my brain

[orchid kernel]

occt and cinebench

[floral spear]

260hz Monitors

[wraith steeple]

KPx moment

[shell void]

sure why not

13700k is just a shit bin 13900k

[pure garnet]

it’s what 4.8p core?

i don’t have e cores enabled

[shell void]

my 14900k didnt scale much below 4.8P 3.9E 3.9R but you should play around with it in XTU to see how yours behaves

[pure garnet]

tbh i just want something that keeps voltages low

i’m not worried about power draw too much since they’re only using it for 1T

our design program is old and doesn’t scale at all

[orchid kernel]

is there practically that much FPS difference between a 5.9 and 4.9 14900k?

in my case with a 3080

[shell void]

yeah if youre cpu limited in the games that you play then that's a pretty substantial clockspeed loss

i ran 5.7P 4.5E 4.5R with hyperthreading disabled for my daily performance config

i just liked to mess around with lower clocks to see the efficiency gains

[pure garnet]

@shell void it’s over i just shattered my magic john

[shell void]

8c8t 4.8GHz is going to sip power at low volt

and annihilate the 2700k

[pure garnet]

phone slipped mid buildzoid rant and now my corner is cooked

[shell void]

maybe a flat 5.0 just for the satisfying number

[shell void]

is there a new BZ vid?

[wraith steeple]

Must be an older video

He hasn't uploaded a vid in months

[pure garnet]

no i’m watching the 13th gen memory controller rant

back floor at work is solid concrete and it fell face first so i knew it was cooked

[shell void]

is the phone halal? just the protector got cooked?

[pure garnet]

it looks fine but i didn’t pull protector off yet

i have the spare from the 2 pack in my room when i get home

[pure garnet]

phone is fine i took it off

gonna just leave phone in back till end of evening

[shell void]

🙏

[frank cypress]

blessed settings

switched back to them after I realized I was using the 5.3ghz p cores profile I had from floppa

now vray is not making my room hot af

[shell void]

mashallah

[wraith steeple]

ما شاء الله

[fringe vigil]

just convert at this point

[wraith steeple]

[fringe vigil]

astrafigullah

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

i need a photo of pat gelsinger in a taqiyah

[wraith steeple]

أستغفر الله العظيم

Well anyways

[fringe vigil]

are u arabic bass

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nod-catnod-yes-vibe-gif-21529329

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream gonna check out The Studio

maybe it'll hit for me more than Severance

[fringe vigil]

i need to watch that

i heard its really good

[edgy laurel]

trailer seems like it is https://youtu.be/EIQuE7JGXU8

[steel stream]

it's a pretty good comedy

[edgy laurel]

wait is there some meta stuff happening

[steel stream]

i haven't watched an AppleTV show I haven't liked

[steel stream]

yeah lol, it's pretty good

[edgy laurel]

ha ok

[steel stream]

I also highly recommend the Naked Gun 2025, that shit was funny

[edgy laurel]

oh I saw that available, i'll grab it

seth mcfarlane produced

[steel stream]

oh didn't know that, neat

[royal shale]

so i wanna try out linux on my main pc, and i have a third avaible nvme slot i coul put a 2tb ssd for linux, i already have a 2tb windows boot drive and 1tb other nvme ssd drive where i store like games and other stuff, having a b650 aorus ultra, would it be a hasle having two different os with two different ssds and the third drive be like a ocmmon drive both os can see and read? would i lose files? of course i think i’d have to reformst in some other way the 1tb non-boot drive to make linux and windows see it easily, will it be as simple as pressing 1 or 2 on the keyboard when turning on the pc to select which os? just so i can transition from windows to linux while also keeping non-linux compatible apps functional (like fusion 360)

[edgy laurel]

you're talking about two different physical boot drives with two different OSes

[royal shale]

yeah but on the same motherboard and system

[edgy laurel]

apps installed on one will not run on the other

also they're completely different architectures

[royal shale]

i know, what i mean is making the 1tb nvme act like a “thumb drive” one that you’d unplug while on windows, reboot, go into linux and plug back in

[edgy laurel]

Personal opinion, dual booting is never worth it. Try out linux in a VM or another PC entirely

[edgy laurel]

that sounds like a royal pain in the ass, but your apps will still not work

[royal shale]

apps would be both installed on windows and linux, and i don’t mean disconnecting the nvme everytime i reboot to go to the other os, i mean that whicever os i am running, they cna see the data of the nvme, like a “nas” would act but instead of being network attached, it’s just a third non-boot drive

[edgy laurel]

I don't know why people haven't embraced VM's. For everythign but gaming, exlcusive mode in something as simple as VirtualBox its almost seamless

and its FAR less of a pain in the ass

[royal shale]

last time i tried it was such a hassle to make stuff work, like tou can’t access files directly, or access hardware peripherals

[edgy laurel]

you'll have to jump through some hoops to mount NTFS drives in Linux if you feel like you absolutely have to be able to retreive files on it

running software on it is obviously not happening

I don't know if you can mount ext4 or whatever filesystem you choose in LInux on Windows, would have to spend some time on google when you decide

WSL may help

[royal shale]

i want the 1tb to be a drive that can be shared by both, while apps and programs would be on each respective os drive, stuff like videos or games i could put temporarily on the 1tb one then copy into the os drive i’m booted into currently for fast transition of files between OSes

[edgy laurel]

then the above applies

if its NTFS, you'll need to mount it in Linux for it to be accessible

or vice versa

You've set out on a path with a plan to make your life as difficult as possible

when we have modern options that negate the need for any of it

I simply have two PC's on my desk, one windows the other linux

if you don't, then at least a NAS to make sharing files easier

good luck

[royal shale]

i don’t want to move to linux completely especially since i’ve got a lot of files

and running linux baremetal but on another drive wouldn’t give more performance?

[edgy laurel]

important "files" should be on another drive anyway, or a NAS

as for performance.. depends on what you're doing for how much that matters

[royal shale]

i fear a linux vm would fuck something up, or would it not? got a ryzen 5 7600x, a rx 7600 8gb, 32gb of ram and that b650i aorus ultra

i’d love to test put the various games i plsy on linux, but also fear the whole having to go to a command line because “this app is not supported on linux” and having to go around hoops to make it work

[edgy laurel]

you're not gaming in a VM, so if that was the goal forget about it

at least not with virtualbox

[turbid reef]

I’m planning to buy the first-generation Apex Pro Mini Wireless and wanted to confirm: does this keyboard have SOCD or rapid trigger or whatever its called

[topaz veldt]

It's not bad these days at all

[turbid locust]

need to play skate

[edgy laurel]

is that this? https://steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-pro

[turbid reef]

yep

[edgy laurel]

did you scroll down..?

[turbid reef]

i dont have that

[pure garnet]

ntfs3 is upstream, should just work for r/w now

[turbid reef]

thats the product but the image when i scroll down is what i dont have ;-;

[edgy laurel]

https://steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-pro?keyboardLanguage=english&keyboardSize=mini&connectivityType=wireless

use their site, find the product you do have then read the features/specs

[turbid reef]

ah this one has it

[edgy laurel]

manufacturers website should always be the first stop if you want details about a product

[low sorrel]

Honestly just buy an chinese keyboard from taobao or aliexpress

[turbid reef]

hoenstly i could but im worried it might be bad

[low sorrel]

or amazon

[low sorrel]

reviews

[turbid reef]

breaks fast or comes with some sort of malware on their software

[turbid reef]

i saw this one https://www.amazon.ae/EPOMAKER-HE-Adjustable-Actuation-Lighthouse/dp/B0F214M2GP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=13CG35YZVGDCA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JufOJR63d4U80vL3zrDQyhQJNsUWGTRsz_-2d9HS00fEqORnkht9e9hYGhFmrPzcdwLEuFo9YhnimfR1ES21mitzNahiBxS14qqJPlVk3uGCJKn2DBCsJlW_XglvXGcgjJmJlXKpWgP7cKvGUsrGloAlEcHucz8Hav8eB4CghQ7J8gSyBz3JJgpf42_j4qOBl4bKTXfmsoKE-oBpGkSwBaB0MiA1x3ZaLYQFyHAd2VxKfA0J8uwL7vNxvixpcsFCFLwnoiVSzPEHuQYWB26_yrQ18CFadVon7NKfpLuARoU.XuXzy6NjHU0vMo7W2_hWl-JlPQ-ivQg8NiJCfTdtF5c&dib_tag=se&keywords=aula%2Bhero%2B68%2Bhe&qid=1758327532&sprefix=aula%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.b4f74a7b-9d54-420b-9003-7e54957e6f89&th=1

[low sorrel]

epomaker is decent

their software sucks ass

good keyboard ass software

try to find something with VIA

probably costs more

[turbid reef]

any examples

nothing too expensive 😅

[low sorrel]

i know some models without VIA

but i haven't looked to hard because i don't care about hall effect

[turbid reef]

isnt hall effect better than mechanical?

i aint smart with keyboards ngl

[low sorrel]

not by anything that matters

[turbid reef]

but i heard they are the fastest and low resistance

right now i have the logitech g213

[low sorrel]

unless you are trying to go pro it doesn't even matter

[turbid reef]

they keys arnt the best ngl

[turbid reef]

not pro but id like to get good xD

[low sorrel]

what layout you looking for

[turbid reef]

ahh QWERTY if thats what u mean

[low sorrel]

no like

65%

75%

[turbid reef]

ah

initially i wanted full size cause i need the function keys and arrows for some software but i lost hope as all the full size ones with HE are expensive so rn anything is fine bigger the better tho

[low sorrel]

thats what she said

[turbid reef]

😅

[turbid locust]

I want to go back to a 75% but I don’t want to pay for another Hall effect board lol

Plus I like Wootings implementation a lot so I’d want an 80HE

[pure garnet]

i had a tkl, got crazy into mechanical keyboards, ended up back on tkl

[low sorrel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009774823873.html?

[pure garnet]

holy

cut everything after the .html off

[low sorrel]

yeah yeahh

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008874862212.html?

[turbid reef]

ooooo and they are affordable

[turbid locust]

I want to mod my 60HE

[low sorrel]

no clue if this is anygood but KNOB https://redragonshop.com/products/eisa-k686-he?aff=4359

[topaz veldt]

Found out today my 4 year old is 97th percentile height

[pure garnet]

rotary encoder is gonna be useless like 95% of the time

[turbid reef]

this looks good imma think about it

[low sorrel]

idc KNOB

[low sorrel]

theres also a pro of this https://redragonshop.com/products/eisa-k686-pro-se?_pos=2&_fid=48e04e339&_ss=c

whats the difference? idfk

wait it's gasket mounted???

[pure garnet]

does that keyboard come pre sticky or is that for the user to make happen

[hoary hatch]

better have that factory goo

[low sorrel]

sir it's reddragon

what do you expect

[pure garnet]

okay but the board looks like

....that

[topaz veldt]

I think I have seen that brand at micro center

[pure garnet]

they make a lot of cheap stuff

[low sorrel]

never mind this isn't hall effect

so the normal one is hall effect

but the pro isn't?

[low sorrel]

because they are at microcenter

[steel stream]

bro its so epic!

[low sorrel]

me personally

i'm never buying that

[low sorrel]

hey akn

wanna play helldivers?

[sick fox]

Any drive recommendations? I've been using HGST all my life, but they are more or less not available anymore and its basically just WD drives anyway. My drives is coming up on 90000 hours and I thought I should get a new storage drive. Mostly cause mine is getting full.

By storage: Movies and Anime mostly, but also weekly Macrium incremental backups of system drive (2TB max, currently at 300GB total)

[steel stream]

I can do one dive sure

[low sorrel]

game crashed

[steel stream]

NICE

whoops caps lock

[low sorrel]

whats your thoughts on the ptt key

[edgy laurel]

damn, you calling him out for hot mic'ing? lmao

[steel stream]

shhh

[steel stream]

i had to go find my mic from the bottom clutches of hell (my desk drawers)

[low sorrel]

why don't you juust have your mic set up all the time

[devout ridge]

it get in the way

[steel stream]

lazy

also wtf is going on

[steel stream]

yeah

the struggles of having a 42" monitor

[fringe vigil]

What game you playing

[steel stream]

helldivers

2

[fringe vigil]

What nvidia gpu is equivalent to 9060xt

[shell void]

5060ti is slightly more powerful

[calm socket]

So I've been reading about USB the past few days.

Specifically USB-C.

[topaz veldt]

dude i think i figured out why I could not hit my clocks any longer on 285k

[calm socket]

It makes me wonder why they made certain decisions in regards to the pin layout.

[shell void]

are you free from 4.9GHz Ecore hell?

wat happen

[topaz veldt]

not yet - but i have a theory, its called Kpx

[frank zealot]

Bruh

[topaz veldt]

I did NOT realize I never changed out the paste on this build

its been KPx since I built it

look how it breaks down and hardens

[shell void]

[calm socket]

Why the separate ground pins instead of just making the retention springs ground pins?

[shell void]

isn’t that meant only for XOC because it has terrible lifespan

[topaz veldt]

shielding

[topaz veldt]

yessss

I had been playing around with it an TG Extreme and I guess i never changed it

I swore it was duronaut, but uh

Explains why my temps were so high

[pure garnet]

is the blue a performance thing or do they dye it to look cool

[calm socket]

In what regard? The ground pins and shield are electrically connected anyway.

[topaz veldt]

Yes and if you did away with the ground pins you'd have no consistent shielding

[topaz veldt]

just dye

[calm socket]

How so? The retention springs are basically just big unconnected pins perpendicular to the rest; I'm not sure how making those the grounds would make it less consistent, unless I'm missing something.

[slim pebble]

I just tried Duronaut, it’s messy but performs well enough.

[topaz veldt]

it could be easier to apply imho

[topaz veldt]

if you've designed anything, spring loaded things are not good for grounding

[slim pebble]

I hope you can hit 5GHz, I’ve heard of people disabling all but one p-core and still running stupid fast in games at 5+ GHz ecore

[shell void]

the return of the king once you get the loop running

[topaz veldt]

I was running 50.16 or 50.33 on E cores, and then it like... stopped working and my temps were higher than I recall. And now breaking it down for custom loop I realize I am on like year old Kpx

[topaz veldt]

rofl hardly

[calm socket]

Wait, aren't the pins already on springs, though?

[topaz veldt]

In a USB-c connector?

[calm socket]

Yeah. I thought they were.

Or like, they are springy. Like the pins in an LGA socket.

[topaz veldt]

no

[slim pebble]

My loop is ridiculously better than the AIO mate, night and day. Even better with the two SLC rads you told me to buy.

[topaz veldt]

I picked up two XR5s

[slim pebble]

Try Duronaut this time!

[low sorrel]

my airpods pro 2 arrrived and i've been clicking the case open for 20 minuttes streight

[slim pebble]

PS: and a contact frame too. FFS. 😃

[topaz veldt]

yep

[topaz veldt]

I didn't intend to keep KPx I just forgot

[topaz veldt]

I dunno if 1851 matters, i do have one

[calm socket]

Alright, well that's question #1. #2 is that while I get while the grounding pins are all on the ends so that they're likely to establish contact first, why are the live power pins not all clustered in the dead center then, to minimize chances of them contacting before the grounds do?

[slim pebble]

Unfortunately ARL still bends a little and makes worse contact

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/arrow-lake-cpus-can-still-get-bendy-despite-revamped-socket-specialized-contact-frame-flattens-chip-claims-to-lower-temperatures-by-up-to-6c

[last mauve]

yes.

The retention springs and ground pins (which are indeed weakly sprung) are separate so that they can be made of different materials. The retention springs can be made of a more durable material while the pins can be made of a lower resistance material.

[calm socket]

Ah, I guess that makes sense.

[calm socket]

I didn't even consider they'd be made of different materials. I figured they'd want the whole plug to be made of as few different metals as possible to save on BoM.

[topaz veldt]

I have the TR one some where

[slim pebble]

One more thing to get lower temps

[topaz veldt]

I had read reviews and it was a net zero

my 285K bin is kind of ass

[last mauve]

I mean, cheap cables might still do that but they'd fail compliance testing

[calm socket]

What about the live power pins, then? Why have those on A4/A9/B4/B9 instead of all together at A6/A7/B6/B7? Since they're all electrically connected anyway.

[topaz veldt]

heat?

[calm socket]

... Huh, I guess that'd make sense. I'd have figured since the effective cross-section of the material would be the same either way, the heat wouldn't be a factor, but I guess that does make things more spread out and easier to dissipate.

[untold otter]

Would anyone have any reccomendations for a custom watercooling loop?
I am planning to have one in the future. and I was wondering what is available

[topaz veldt]

USB-C is supporting 240W through that cable, so distributing it as best as possible is key

[calm socket]

And I presume that simply fusing the 6/7 pins together on each side to increase the total cross-section of the power transfer pins wouldn't lower the generated heat enough to offset it all being concentrated in the center.

[slim pebble]

It’s more of a “over long time it bends” thing

[topaz veldt]

no and in fact I dunno the standard but maybe having those separated is required for current sensing or something

[calm socket]

Hm, noted. And I presume each ground or live power pin being directly opposite another of the same is to prevent any potential shorting issues, such as if a pin gets misaligned and touches a pin it shouldn't?

[steel stream]

probably

[calm socket]

Right. Only because I'm toying around with what a 90° rotationally-agnostic connector might look like, as a thought exercise.

Years ago, I'd saw a Europlug power strip that was just a grid of prongs called the Rozetkus, and it had inspired me. I always wondered if something similar could be done with USB, where a computer's IO could just be a grid of identical ports. USB-C felt like it was halfway there, but I wondered if there could've been a companion plug--something electrically identical to USB-C (and so convertible via a simple passive adapter), but a different shape for different use cases.

USB-C for thinner applications such as phones, and a square connector for applications where maximizing the amount of I/O per surface area would be desired.

[steel stream]

https://youtu.be/sQ56ve39l2I?si=lVjsIzhJEmEm52fg big news

[calm socket]

Good lord, it's the iPhone 6 all over again...

[steel stream]

wow, ceramic shield 2 is good, barely any scratches at level 7

[south shuttle]

you wouldn’t want jerry to handle a samsung A series phone

they’re kinda bendy and do snap in half

[devout ridge]

at best just as good as what we have right now, at worst it's astronomically worse

also there's isn't just one method of data transmission, you the different USB specs, PCIE, NVMe, SATA, Ethernet, etc

[steel stream]

Jerry got the phone to snap after 215 lbs of force down the middle

this is how he had to do it lol

he couldn't get it with his hands

[calm socket]

Alternate modes, yes. I'm aware the port can even do analog signals when used as an audio jack, for instance.

[south shuttle]

tbh i bend tested a borked a52s 5g and it didn’t withstand well

probably worse than iphone 6 (though i’ve never bend tested any other phone than the a52s 🤣 )

the battery degraded and touch screen was non functional

surprisingly the motherboard survived intact

[calm socket]

Well, one thing I thought was that if the distance between ports on a grid was standardized (like how you'll see those Macbook I/O extenders that have two Thunderbolt plugs side by side at a specific distance), you could do things like make cords and peripherals that take up variable numbers of ports for when power and/or data needs are too much for a single plug.

[calm socket]

(I hate that comic...)

[steel stream]

it is the truth

[calm socket]

To an extent, but if we took it as gospel, we wouldn't have things like DisplayPort since HDMI already existed.

[calm socket]

I feel like overreliance on "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" leads to complacency. No harm in brainstorming.

[steel stream]

I mean yeah we still need innovation

[calm socket]

And like, don't get me wrong, I'm glad that USB is converging towards the singular USB-C connector.

Considering... y'know, the mess we had beforehand.

[gloomy vault]

tf??

dang i gotta work out

[steel stream]

or just become a farmer like jerry

[calm socket]

But I do wonder if USB-C is indeed the end-all-be-all for every single use case and if there isn't room for a companion plug--a hypothetical USB-D--better optimized for non-mobile scenarios while still incorporating the improvements USB-C made over the myriad A/B variants.

[gentle urchin]

Micro-USB 3.0

[calm socket]

Oh yeah, Micro 3.x is a goddamn nightmare of a design.

But yeah, that's what had me brainstorming.

"What meaningful improvements could we make after USB4?"

"Replacing the rigid A/B dichotomy with a C/D one--both bidirectional and ultimately interchangeable, but optimized for different scenarios?"

Like, one thing I thought was that USB-C currently has room opposite the unshielded Rx/Tx pair for USB 2.0 (A6/A7), which is currently unused in today's spec. I thought, if we had variable-size plugs that took up multiple ports, both for this hypothetical USB-D grid form-factor but also establishing that "row of multiple plugs" you sometimes see with USB-C laptop I/O docks as a standardized part of the spec, could those currently-unused B6/B7 pins be used to synchronize the ports and have them act as one big one electrically?

[teal orbit]

hmm but I can't imagine it being as bad as lga1700. My 265k system with liquid freezer 2 runs almost 30 degrees cooler than my 13700k system with liquid freezer 3 and I think some of that difference isn't because of a cooler bottleneck

[calm socket]

I dunno, that's all been on my mind lately.

[edgy laurel]

https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB-IF_Member_Agreement_080618.pdf

[south shuttle]

i kinda wish phones would get more round again

[calm socket]

Hey, I'm no OEM, I'm just a guy from Jersey.

[brisk jolt]

same

all i can do is just brisk walk fast lmfao

[frank zealot]

216lbs? Damn

That actually impressive

[shell void]

this is such a simple setup but it looks cool to me

[pure garnet]

fire

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

the dim glow in the dark is fire

i am mr connected

[oak vector]

so rest assured, we'll probably be fine with the durability then

[proven reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297900088261083208/1330989445779951800/caption.gif

[hoary hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451826588183691274/1295815125298839683/sneak-cat.gif

[proven reef]

Give me that fucking dog

[shell void]

if only LG made a monitor of that form factor that was glossy and 120Hz+

it fits nicely next to a 42” oled

[topaz veldt]

Getting there

[wraith steeple]

[brisk jolt]

where is there

[topaz veldt]

Custom loop 285k

[brisk jolt]

Oh its over there

[vestal granite]

buffalo wild wings (i know its 12AM leave me alone) i will say is a lot better than i remembered it being the last time i had it in maybe 2013 but i think wingstop is better

i think the order right now for me is zaxbys > popeyes > hooters wings > kfc > wingstop > buffalo wild wings > applebees > the pizza places

[wraith steeple]

Radikult distro looking

[topaz veldt]

Drain location sucks. Gonna have to send it back to Mario for modifications

[brisk jolt]

wingstop below kfc is wild no

[topaz veldt]

@wraith steeple

[vestal granite]

no cause kfc has pickle on their chicken sandwich

[brisk jolt]

KFC’s chicken is as dry as the sahara desert

[wraith steeple]

HAAAAAWWWTTTT

[vestal granite]

no see youre thinking in terms of chicken but im thinking in terms of chicken sandwich

[wraith steeple]

[brisk jolt]

oh bassbone and the 5nail shall i get myself some pro 3s later

its temptin

[merry stirrup]

hi chat

[brisk jolt]

hi flops

[merry stirrup]

what board what kit

[merry stirrup]

oh idk it was just the closest hospital my sister took me

[low sorrel]

so did you die

[vestal raft]

Do y’all think 1080p is that bad?

[low sorrel]

i mean i wouldn't buy a 1080p monitor tthese days

[vestal raft]

Hm

[whole coral]

Only 3 more days until I see the cardiologist. Can these days go by quicker

Feeling concerned

[low sorrel]

you'll be fine

[brisk jolt]

1440p monitors are cheap so theres little justification to 1080p now

[vestal raft]

So if I wanted a higher refresh rate monitor should I go for a higher refresh rate eith like 1440p?

[ocean moon]

Depends on the display size but I would try to get 1440p if I could

[whole coral]

I felt chest pressure when I was in the car

[low sorrel]

no one in the history of the world has ever died from heart issues

[whole coral]

My head felt weird

[indigo walrus]

Context? 1080p monitor? 1080p capable video recording device? 1080p YouTube / Netflix stream?

[low sorrel]

see that is something i would go to the er for @merry stirrup

[low sorrel]

kirashi

you have a subie?

[vestal raft]

Fps mostly so I don’t really play those graphic demanding games but it would definitely be nice to have a 1440p

[brisk jolt]

people die when they are killed

[vestal raft]

Graphic demanding like those story games etc

[whole coral]

I made my mom pull over. Thankfully the chest pressure did go away and my heart stabilized but still scary

[brisk jolt]

1440p is sharper thats what ill say

[indigo walrus]

This still doesn't have context... but I assume you're referring to a monitor. If so, 1440p is a game changer if you do a mix of gaming and productivity work. I prefer 27" 1440p@60Hz over 27" 1080p@ 144Hz, for example. But really, it depends on what you do on your computer. If you play action games, then going for more Hz makes more sense.

[oak vector]

It might just be me…
But ios26 has made my battery life significantly better???
Or maybe it’s just restarting my phone that helped idk

[low sorrel]

hell 4k isn't THAT much more anymore

[arctic bronze]

1440p is the best for high fps and good looks if you have the gpu to power it

[brisk jolt]

5090 9800x3d

[vestal raft]

I have a 4070 with a 7600

[indigo walrus]

Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Depends on who's asking about my SubUwU...

[oak vector]

I have a 32inch 1440p and I’ve gotten into music production recently
It’s so good

[arctic bronze]

so medium settings 1440p for modern games

[low sorrel]

ok...

[oak vector]

I’d actually like a 16:10 monitor as my main but

[arctic bronze]

for high refresh rate

[brisk jolt]

stutterlands 4: come out bro we wont jump you

[indigo walrus]

Why does ye be asking? I can't help you with blown head gaskets because my car doesn't have that problem.

[arctic bronze]

it curb stomps a 5090 lmao

[low sorrel]

ok so you don't own a subaru then

[brisk jolt]

subie on fbm

“hows those headgaskets? 2k”

[oak vector]

Do we have an idea when the 5000 series refreshes will release 🥹

[arctic bronze]

step 1: take off head
step 2: remove old head gasket
step 3: clean head
step 4: install new head gasket
step 5: install head

[indigo walrus]

Nah, I just own one with other problems, after they fixed the explodey head gasket issue with their engines.

[arctic bronze]

ez pz

[oak vector]

😭

[arctic bronze]

lmao

[brisk jolt]

eg6 on fbm
“dude ill trade you my lawnmower for that piece of shit”

[vestal raft]

I click on your YouTube ylu live in van??

[arctic bronze]

kaboom car

[brisk jolt]

kaboom?
yes rico kaboom

[arctic bronze]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-26895027

[indigo walrus]

Across the water. But close enough.

[low sorrel]

since when was 4k 144hz under 300 bucks https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xr2WGX/samsung-odyssey-g7-280-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-ls28bg702enxgo

[vestal raft]

Vancouver island?

[low sorrel]

i know it's 28in but like

[arctic bronze]

van down by the river

[oak vector]

My ex bf is hella gay
He also owns a Subaru 😭

[vestal raft]

I live in Vancouver

[oak vector]

😔

[arctic bronze]

bomb on wheels

[low sorrel]

so your asian

[oak vector]

LOLLL

[vestal raft]

Nah

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bunta-fujiwara-aura-initial-d-fourth-stage-gif-26134905

[low sorrel]

ok so your white

[vestal raft]

No

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-car-explosion-explode-fire-gif-14275311

[oak vector]

that made me actually laugh lmfaooo

[low sorrel]

so your not from vancouver

[arctic bronze]

lmao

[vestal raft]

It’s a curve ball I guess

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ae86-gif-14374590

yes rico kaboom

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-tony-stark-iron-man-explosion-gif-15636965

[low sorrel]

no wonnder the engine blew it's at 12000rpm

[arctic bronze]

it didnt have a turbo sticker 😔

[brisk jolt]

that engine was supposed to go to 11k

[topaz veldt]

I wsh there was a decent 5090 master block

[heavy mantle]

Be the change you want to be

[topaz veldt]

im trying

[heavy mantle]

Oo

[topaz veldt]

you see i got started on my stupid 285k loop?

[heavy mantle]

How far are you from completion?

[topaz veldt]

i need some parts

[heavy mantle]

Ohh yeah the one you cant get 4.9ghz above i think?

[topaz veldt]

and i think im going to send my distro plate back to the guy who makes it to have him modify a part

so prob a couple weeks

[heavy mantle]

Oh yeah that sound funs

I have made plans to do something like this

But instead i got an m3 laptop lmao

[topaz veldt]

You can see the drain at the bottom bottom

but I want that on the "back" its useless there

[heavy mantle]

Oh like reversing it?

It would cleaner too

[topaz veldt]

just instead of the G1/4 thats at the bottom below the shortest bottom hose, move it to the back side

[heavy mantle]

Ohhh

[topaz veldt]

I can't really fit a drain where it is

[heavy mantle]

Did you do the entire design of the build on a pc before hand or did ya just do it raw dog it lol

[topaz veldt]

what do you mean

[heavy mantle]

Like the entire costume loop design did you do it on some cad program before hand to have an overall overview of what the build would look like or you just went in without doing that

[topaz veldt]

oh, no not at all this is basic shit - its all soft tube and its almost identical to my black PC

[heavy mantle]

Ah ok lol

[topaz veldt]

Making the left one look more like the right one

[fervent elm]

3kw psu bruh https://share.google/yl7S9Ob9vhgsr2ZFu

[heavy mantle]

Ahh the black one is the 4090 one rigth

[topaz veldt]

no they are both 5090s now

That's the white one prior to this afternoon

[heavy mantle]

Oh what happened to the 4090 one

[topaz veldt]

I sold all my 4090s but one

[heavy mantle]

The special one

Hopefully its the asus one right

[topaz veldt]

nah its a gigabyte aero

[heavy mantle]

Ah ok

I was thinking for the hobby build i was building for the x299 right

Should i do the costume loop connecting everything or have like the cpu aio and gpu aio separate?

[wraith steeple]

I do wonder

With how often I do WCing stuff, this wouldn't feel too alien

[heavy mantle]

Oh

Am coming from a preceptive point of view, i took ts like idk last two semesters or so so i was wondering for what i should pick out of the two

[tight cipher]

is 9070xt worth 794 usd used? I live in norway and a new one is 904 usd

[pure garnet]

how much is a 5070ti in comparison

[green marsh]

AM4 CPU pricing locally is hilarious.
5700X locally is 130-140 used
5700X from EU Aliexpress seller is 115 euros

[tight cipher]

1155 usd for 5070 ti

or 1000 usd used

[brisk jolt]

uh those prices are abysmal lol

id say the 9070xt for 794 is worth ig but try nego to 750

[tight cipher]

Welcome to Norway lol

[brisk jolt]

thats like…. 30% tax

[low sorrel]

yeah

welcome to the eu

[low sorrel]

setsuna are you singapore

[tight cipher]

We are not a part of the EU

[low sorrel]

close enough

[fervent elm]

Most of europe has a 20-30% VAT

[low sorrel]

EEA eu same thing

[tight cipher]

we have 25% vat

[gloomy vault]

yea he is

[gloomy vault]

can i claim the 30% upon leaving europe at the airport as a tourist?

[tight cipher]

I believe so

[brisk jolt]

no im singaporean

[gloomy vault]

-30% is wild

[brisk jolt]

@gloomy vault i think i should go cop pro 3s rn

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[gloomy vault]

you want? i free rn i wanna check out the 17’s

[brisk jolt]

wya rn

[low sorrel]

are you going to watch your f1 race in like 2 weeks

[brisk jolt]

i at paya lebar rn bro

[tight cipher]

I'm in China now, and a new card is 673 usd. But I risk losing it in the customs :/

[gloomy vault]

home i can get to orchard in 45

[brisk jolt]

i just bought shoes and some pants lmao

[gloomy vault]

wtf

[brisk jolt]

Uh go out night can?

[gloomy vault]

sure

[brisk jolt]

cuz like

i wanna go home shower and eat brunch b4 going out

[gloomy vault]

i need study for GCSE’s soooo

at night is preferred

[brisk jolt]

get yo ass studying rn

[low sorrel]

no be a bumm

[gloomy vault]

practical in 2 weeks 💔 💔

[brisk jolt]

sybau

[gloomy vault]

im blowing up the chemistry lab

[brisk jolt]

its ok bro i studied for my ite theories 2 days before their respective exams

[gloomy vault]

bleach + ammonia

[brisk jolt]

cb i alr spent $220 today on these lmfao

[gloomy vault]

im just gonna leave the bunsen burner on and not light it

[brisk jolt]

heart pain

[gloomy vault]

on pants???

wtf??

[brisk jolt]

2 shoes and 2 pants

[gloomy vault]

shoes i can understand but pants??

[brisk jolt]

my slippers are worn and my shoes are starting to tear

[brisk jolt]

both dumbass

combined effort

[gloomy vault]

i got my adidas stan smiths for $20 in italy on black friday

like what shoes you be buying

[brisk jolt]

it look like im in italy?

[gloomy vault]

you can be

[brisk jolt]

i have no passport with me

[gloomy vault]

scoot flies to germany

you can walk down to italy

a person who thinks all the time

[brisk jolt]

i slap ur ass flying to italy

u dont think all the time

u think once every blue moon

[gloomy vault]

i sleep all the time 💔 💔

[gloomy vault]

noob

[brisk jolt]

my passport in tampines

yw go steal back for me?

[gloomy vault]

tampines 😔 😔

[green marsh]

my last passport expired like 2 decades ago. Had no use for one since then

[gloomy vault]

you likely live in a huge country right

you have much to still discover

[brisk jolt]

it might be time to start selling stocks

[gloomy vault]

i can walk across my country in 1 day

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[gloomy vault]

ya sell intel

b4 they drop again

[brisk jolt]

they dropped 3% ytd

[gloomy vault]

dropping as we speak btw

[carmine pike]

could someone help me real quick in tech chat 1 please?

[green marsh]

i live in EU. Schengen area means all i need to travel is my ID, no need for passport

[gloomy vault]

dang yeah eu is nice

[carmine pike]

yes and no

[green marsh]

my country is rather small, only 49k km2

[brisk jolt]

the market isnt even open rn

[gloomy vault]

what time is it

2am new york

[brisk jolt]

dude its a weekend

[gloomy vault]

oop

[green marsh]

it's weekend, it won't open till monday

[gloomy vault]

yeah im fucking high

[carmine pike]

what thermal paste do you guys recommend?

[green marsh]

the differences are minimal, in 2-3 degrees range. So i just use MX-4 for everything

[gloomy vault]

mines 700+ km^2

😔

[brisk jolt]

our expressway is like 65km long only

not even triple digit

[gloomy vault]

yeah thats why service 858 can blast through half the country in 20 mins

airport to woodlands in 20 mins is wild work

esp when the mrt takes more than twice that

[carmine pike]

would MX-6 work the same it seems MX-4 isnt available

nvm

[gloomy vault]

temperature difference between pastes from reputable brands isnt high

[carmine pike]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-MX-4-2019-Performance-Durability/dp/B07L9BDY3T

[gloomy vault]

just get whichever is cheapest

[carmine pike]

this right?

[gloomy vault]

yea thats mx4

[brisk jolt]

60km in 20 mins is 180km/hr are u okay

[gloomy vault]

60km is the whole route

[brisk jolt]

ah yes go twice the speed limit as a BUS

[gloomy vault]

eh wait maybe not 20 mins

[brisk jolt]

funny ah

[gloomy vault]

i’ll time it next time but 858 is fucking fast

[brisk jolt]

@gloomy vault can go tmr instead

i gg wl tmr

[gloomy vault]

wtf is wl

woodlands

[brisk jolt]

yes

[gloomy vault]

apple store at orchard bro

[brisk jolt]

yea im going to some race room with friends first

so much effort to go out again tdy

[gloomy vault]

o

[brisk jolt]

so tmr

[gloomy vault]

okok tmr

[brisk jolt]

i become agnes tachyon bro my legs dont wanna do jackshit

[slim pebble]

Beautiful so far

[merry stirrup]

@turbid locust are u awwake idk what time it is there

[heavy mantle]

2

Am

[primal aurora]

For motherboards Brands I only know 4

• msi
• gigabyte
• asus
• ASRock
  Is there any other brand that is worth learning about?

[low sorrel]

you get out of ER yet?

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah i’m chillin

i got out at like 1

maybe 1:20

[honest harbor]

What’s the best value /
Performance gen 5 2T SSD

[merry stirrup]

gen 5 = \ = value

[gloomy vault]

tmr we go sim lim

i need RMA my 990 pro

[brisk jolt]

ccb we going woodlands at 1pm

[gloomy vault]

woodlands for what

[gloomy vault]

[brisk jolt]

try simracing

[gloomy vault]

i meet u woodlands aft your thing

🙀

until what time

[brisk jolt]

idk maybe like 4

[gloomy vault]

💀

[brisk jolt]

or might not go at all idk

[gloomy vault]

u lmk

or i meet u rochor @5pm

or smt like that

[spare tinsel]

whats this rma you speak of

[frank cypress]

a date????

😳

[viscid silo]

Wut the

[gloomy vault]

warranty

[gloomy vault]

😭 😭

[shell void]

that’s what you think buddy

ive successfully intel pilled the monitor enthusiasts discord server

they renamed #pc-hardware to #nova-lake-waiting-room

https://tenor.com/view/avaneesh-gif-27698935

[brisk jolt]

waiting for z990i U7 into a formd t1 titanium

[loud depot]

@merry stirrup sim left the server?

[dull bough]

rip sim

[fringe vigil]

sim simma who got the keys to my beamer left?

[shell void]

this is exactly why i don’t love ordering expensive things online

[fringe vigil]

I don’t get it

Oh

I can order it fine

[shell void]

right

that’s why you still haven’t ordered your 42 c5

[fringe vigil]

I’m going to so

[shell void]

@edgy laurel 👁️

this video scratches three itches that ive had simultaneously

ive wanted to see how the VRM on the TRX50 Aero holds up with a 64 core, ive wanted to see Optimum play with Threadripper 9000, and ive wanted to see how the Phanteks Evolv handles a hot PC

[vital crane]

Okay so your card is a Nitro+. And 95C Hotspot is definitely not normal as theyre known to have the best stock cooling with beefy heatsinks

[shell void]

😻

[edgy laurel]

I just came to link this! Will watch shortly

[turbid locust]

No I actually went to sleep at a decent hour for once.

[small cypress]

how will this even work theres no sli for new gpus anymore

[shell void]

you dont need sli to use multi gpu for work

[small cypress]

i get theres lossless scaling but idk how far youll go with that

[shell void]

multi gpu for gaming is dead, but very much alive for work

[small cypress]

fr? thats crazy

[edgy laurel]

Yes (this just came up yesterday) #tech-chat-2 message

many software applications that can be GPU accelerated or run entirely on GPU's can address more than one at a time. computational fluid dynamics, 3D rendering, LLM's, simulations, protein folding, medical imagery, etc...

without the need for SLI/NVLink bridges

[arctic bronze]

yeah, would be cool if they found a way to use it for gaming

[shell void]

you can use a second GPU for lossless scaling frame generation, but DLSS FG is better

[edgy laurel]

Thats in workstations. In true enterprise datacenters, NVLink is still alive and well. NVLink 5.0 offers 1800GB/s of totaly bandwidth between GPU's https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-gb200-nvl72-delivers-trillion-parameter-llm-training-and-real-time-inference/

[brisk jolt]

lowk not wrong with how stutterlands 4 turned out

[arctic bronze]

lmao

[turbid locust]

These kids don’t remember why SLI gaming died

[edgy laurel]

you can tell you never used SLI/Crossfire back in the day if you're looking for it to solve stuttering 🤣

[edgy laurel]

haha exactly

[brisk jolt]

yeah i aint grow up around compooters

[edgy laurel]

defined the word microstuttering

[turbid locust]

SLI died because performance didn’t scale that well and it wasn’t worth spending money on in the later stages

[oak vector]

“wow look at the frame rate”
looks at frame time graph

[edgy laurel]

it rarely scaled well, depeneded entirely on the specific game developer

[shell void]

average framerate did scale well if the dev implemented it well, but yeah it did add microstutter

and devs arent interested in spending countless hours optimizing sli for 0.0001% of their users

iirc GTA 5 legacy has nearly 100% sli scaling

[oak vector]

😍

[edgy laurel]

oddly, DICE and Battlefield team really took advantage of it. One of the few games that could load up both cards to 100% with no issues

[turbid locust]

I remember people running SLI 980Ti’s for GTA 5

[shell void]

yessir the 5960x + triple 980ti dream

kinda funny but sad that triple 980ti sli wouldve been cheaper than my 5090 master

[edgy laurel]

BF3 was the reason I got a second HD6970 for Crossfire. 2560x1600 was a beast back then

though adding a second GPU for SLI/Crossfire after the fact was never the answer..

usuaully worth just getting a new single GPU

[oak vector]

I read that as 5950x lmao
I forgor there’s a similarly named i7

[shell void]

i have my 5960x in a case on my desk bro please dont forget the legend

[edgy laurel]

also

[green marsh]

i have an itch to build in A3-mATX, but can't justify doing another build

[oak vector]

sigh

[turbid locust]

This case is great

[green marsh]

this and AP201, unfortunately i have lot of ATX boards and just one mATX

and that mATX is X99

[shell void]

you must do a Lianli A3 + MSI B850 MPower build brother droid

it's absolutely paramount

[turbid locust]

B850 Mpower making me nervous

I may impulse buy one off Xianyu

[shell void]

this is a good candle stand

[green marsh]

don't have money, plus i already got a AM5 system

[green marsh]

ewww gigabit

[shell void]

the bottom switch is 10gb

the top one is used for my tvs and smart speakers

[green marsh]

i already moved my 8 & 16 port gigabit switches to storage box. Upgraded everything else to 2.5 gigabit (with 1 or 2 10gbe ports on each, yes, the cheap china switches)

only one 10gbe device for now, which is my server

[shell void]

a perfect opportunity to sell the B650E-F to move into an A3+B850 MPower

[green marsh]

don';t have money for that anyway

[brisk jolt]

MPower

[shell void]

[green marsh]

brother is getting married, so some of my money goes to him, and i can't take out investments just to get not needed parts now

[shell void]

that is reasonable

[small cypress]

im turning this into a gif

[small cypress]

here you go

[topaz veldt]

m bishes

[edgy laurel]

i feel like the M is upside down

[shell void]

@edgy laurel this new autodrive is trying to get me into trouble

[shell void]

that will match your iphone 17 pro max in cosmic orange

[edgy laurel]

lmao yeah lets just stop here

[shell void]

let's just park right infront of gangoons

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683114178084339737/1412171520532418680/4e3eb6cd9a5b3e06dd484fb74836febef84fb1d82eb1646110056573c80c708f.gif

[nova trout]

What could it be I repasted a month ago this is some weird mind trickery

[vital crane]

That is a strong sign of a dying GPU

There's a chance the thermal controller is on a runaway

[nova trout]

But people in other server told me pc components don’t just die

[vital crane]

Well this one started overheating and cooked itself

[nova trout]

[vital crane]

To the point it can't control its thermal headroom anymore

[nova trout]

Too broke to get a new gpu

[vital crane]

Id start looking into a replacement. A used budget one will do

[nova trout]

What if I continue using this until it gives out

Any side issue

[vital crane]

With how many driver timeouts youre likely getting, not worth the risk as it blow something

Melt the power connectors or fry something

[nova trout]

Whats driver timeout

[nova trout]

Roger

[vital crane]

Basically as you had it, the driver kept freezing up, expecting a response from the graphics chip and not getting any

[nova trout]

Oh you mean my former posts ?

[vital crane]

Yep

Thats what driver timeout means

[nova trout]

That was either bad cpu or mother board I bought new kit
I’m not getting that with new kit

[vital crane]

Could be board. CPU has nothing to do with it

But now with the alarmingly high temps, its likely the GPU will die soon

[nova trout]

Asrock x570 pro4
And ye I believe its the board too

It got to a point it would light up for a second and did

[vital crane]

What's your case anyway?

[vital crane]

And what about the fan curves on the Nitro?

[vital crane]

Thats a short.

...and it could explain your GPU thermals

See when the system is running in unstable configuration like yours, CPU and GPU could run in odd states, sometimes reporting odd thermals

[nova trout]

Corsair 275 but I’m getting new one I just found out my motherboard standoffs were misaligned and all the time the asrock x570 was held down under some pressure
I learned recently board is supposed to sit flush on them not tension down
Also former board only used six screws new one used nine so I had a feeling something is not right after the tension effect on new one I guess I didn’t think its not normal with old one

[nova trout]

I have it on high performance bios setting
It has dual bios

[nova trout]

A short on the board somewhere you mean ?

[vital crane]

Crank it down to power saving or default

[vital crane]

Between the RAM stick and the slot. Your pins are arcing

[nova trout]

Ok but I read high performance cools better

[vital crane]

Not when your thermals are on a runaway. Try power saving. Maybe it wont overload it as much

[nova trout]

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8g-gddr6

[vital crane]

Or set to Silent yeah

[nova trout]

Ye by silent I figured less fans running

[vital crane]

Actually hold on...

Yours is a 5700XT... Navi silicon

Notorious for running hot

Its normal to see on these 90 to 100 unfortunately

[nova trout]

💀

Every place said 95c hotspot

[nova trout]

They should put that on the box

I feel deceived

[vital crane]

AMD rated them 110 max

So 92 to 95 is... iffy but... still survivable

[nova trout]

Okie dokie

I repasted with amx4 but now I have tf2 I might redo it with it

It came with my cpu cooler

Peerless assassin 120se

[vital crane]

Try, but don't expect miracles

Hate to say it, she aknt going cooler than 90C under usage

[edgy laurel]

few seconds of googling tells us 90C+ is normal for the hotspot sensor

[vital crane]

True but prolonged running above 90 could cause more damage

[edgy laurel]

if you're lucky, a little less

[edgy laurel]

according to who

[vital crane]

You'd expect it to be spiking sometimes to 90, not constantly running at 90

[nova trout]

I bought this from microcenter but returned it for financial reasons might get supers when they come out
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-prime-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-gddr7-pci-express-5-0-graphics-card-black/JJGGLHJX5W

[edgy laurel]

I'd expect whatever is considered normal amongs users

[vital crane]

No. Thats how you kill your GPUs lifespan

[edgy laurel]

Show me the datasheet

[nova trout]

Actually it was this

https://www.microcenter.com/product/691225/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-windforce-sff-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card

[vital crane]

All you need to know is the 5700XT is Navi silicon

And even AMD rated it 110 C max

[edgy laurel]

you're making things up because "90c" sounds scary to you

[vital crane]

WELL YEAH????

THAT IS NOT NORMAL

[edgy laurel]

ok.. thats all we need to know

[shell void]

it is

[edgy laurel]

this is hotspot, not average core

[vital crane]

90c is scary because it speeds up degradation

[shell void]

amd gpus run hot, this is not news

[vital crane]

Hotspot should be in spikes... not permanently at 92 c

[edgy laurel]

you're not working off of data for the particular part, you're makin general assumptions and misleading the user (who, btw, its a clown and has 90% of the active users of this channel blocked for trying to talk sense into them)

[proven reef]

7900xt vs 9070xt same price 20 and 16 gb vram varients

[green marsh]

then don't use anything made since ~2018 or so. Because nearly everything runs at 90C now

[shell void]

my 6900xt would go up to 110c hotspot right out of the box :p

[green marsh]

NVIDIA starts slowing down the boosting at 83-84C core, which is nearly 100C hotspot

[vital crane]

90c+ accelerates wear on core and VRAM... its iffy but because of such high rating by AMD on the 5700XT... its somewhat manageable

[edgy laurel]

well keep in mind this is hotspot, not core

[shell void]

well it's probably a hotspot in the core

[vital crane]

True but.... prolonged periods isnt healthy....

[vital crane]

Yeah according to what I deducted...

[shell void]

it's not a problem though

92c isnt even a high hotspot for a radeon gpu, a lot of them will do 100-110c

[brisk jolt]

same iq as elian

room temperature iq in celcius

[vital crane]

You'd expect a Nitro+ to be cooled better though no?

[edgy laurel]

Really? my old 3090 ran 92c VRAM junction temps for its whole life, and is doing so today with the new owner. You're working off of someone telling you once for one specific part 90c was bad and applying it to all things, without research

[brisk jolt]

a nitro+ dont do jackshit lmfao

[vital crane]

Its called asking the internet, dumbass

[brisk jolt]

oh no my 9800x3d is 95c with a LP cooler whatever am i going to do

[vital crane]

They're apparently meant to have better cooling

[vital crane]

Thats not the CPU you idiot

[green marsh]

wait till some starts not understanding that temperature and heat aren't the same thing 🙂

[brisk jolt]

apparently doesnt translate directly

[vital crane]

We're talking about GPUs

[shell void]

and it seems that they do because 92c hotspot isnt high for a 5700xt

[brisk jolt]

who the fuck are you to call me idiot im stating an example

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-25608859

Echo and Elian are made for eachother, it seems

[vital crane]

They have higher temp ratings than other cards though I think

[brisk jolt]

literally

room temp iq ppl 1 for 1 bundle

[edgy laurel]

you're generalizing, again