tech-chat-2

[edgy laurel]

probably 1080p

wait, i can't read

[brisk jolt]

gotta love the fact elian has been spreading misinformation in tc1

[edgy laurel]

as far as the limiting factor, that depends on how the game is setup

you crank Fortnite at 4K with everything on you can be sure a 4090+ will be the limit

[edgy laurel]

trouble is, many people there will just believe him

since they also don't know any better

[brisk jolt]

dude is a 30yo man spreading propaganda

and bad advice

[shell void]

even at 1080p it’s brutal with the settings cranked

[edgy laurel]

ya, i just don't want people to think no matter what you're always CPU limited. the game has some intense effects if you really push it

all the UE5 goodies

and still no DLSS, is that right?

[shell void]

god bless their performance rendering mode

[shell void]

it does have dlss but i dont remember if they’ve updated it from dlss 2 to dlss 4 yet

probably not

[brisk jolt]

im sure you can override it

[edgy laurel]

Oh thats what it was, I recall something about it missing or being a really old version

trouble with NVApp overrides is the DLL's don't get updated.

you'd have to use something like DLSS Swapper but its a multiplayer gae so

that might cause an issue

[shell void]

it’s shocking to me that fortnite takes so long to update features like that with how large their budget is

and how many players they get

[edgy laurel]

i think thats why

keep things stable for as long as possible

[wheat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gta-5-gta-laggy-laggy-gta-gta-meme-gif-10502586781716230489

[brisk jolt]

cant wait for my igpu to get fsr 4 to run at again 15 fps

[edgy laurel]

for their playerbase on mostly lower end rigs

a theory, anyway

[shell void]

maybe they’ll surprise us and be one of the first with reflex 2

[wheat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[edgy laurel]

is The Finals still the only retail title with Reflex 2?

[shell void]

afaik reflex 2 is not publicly available in any game yet

[edgy laurel]

haven't heard much talk about it lately

[brisk jolt]

istg did reflex 2 get sent to the dumpster or smth

[shell void]

the finals and valorant were the two games that creators were allowed to demo it with back in january

[edgy laurel]

lol the internet right now

[topaz veldt]

I have not heard about The Finals since Dr. Disrespect stopped playing

[wheat shore]

RIP reflex 2

[edgy laurel]

Its a slept on MP title

[wheat shore]

I thought people stopped watching disrespect after... yeah...

[edgy laurel]

Embark knows how to make UE5 play well

[topaz veldt]

When ever has that been true

[edgy laurel]

with that and Arc Raiders coming soon

[topaz veldt]

I would say no, people still watch him

[wheat shore]

fair nuff

[fringe vigil]

If you can’t play gta 5 smoothly at this point idk for you

[wheat shore]

imagine the grass in gta 6 tho lol

thats gonna be a heart attack

[fringe vigil]

Gonna be normal

[topaz veldt]

entire ZTT discord is upset with you

[fringe vigil]

who

[topaz veldt]

exactly

Jorj did you see the guy in here yesterday legitimately upset that Fanatec isn't providing support for his 15 year old steering wheel

[wheat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-pursuit-gif-23305748

cant he just use the wheel as regular or with older drivers?

[fringe vigil]

naw

[topaz veldt]

It was sad

[wheat shore]

did yall tell him just to use older drivers?

[topaz veldt]

It wasn't a driver issue

dude wants them to fix some centering issue on a 15 year old device

[wheat shore]

ohhhh

rest in peace to all the people who try to get repairs outside of waranty

speaking of wheels im thinking of getting the moza r3

[fringe vigil]

that’s funny

[wheat shore]

either that or if i want to cheap out a bit i might go with the g25

[brisk jolt]

im copping one next week

good luck to my table tho xd

[wheat shore]

thats the reason i was gonna try to do something older because im not sure my table will hold up that much

but then again i could just lower the ffb

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna get a new table to go with it

I'd need a friend's help to do so tho, for the monitor arms

[topaz veldt]

How are the moza devices?

[brisk jolt]

I need to disassemble and when the new table is assembled, put the thing back on

[wheat shore]

aparrently good enough that the no hesi server is saying "you should not buy belt driven wheels anymore"

but ive seen really good reviews on the r3

[topaz veldt]

Ohhh are they belt drive

Hm most seem to be direct drive

[wheat shore]

oh no theyre dd

i ment people in no hesi said you shouldnt go back to belt driven because the r3 is dead cheap

[keen plaza]

Ok so this is kinda a weird one so idk if y'all can help, but does anyone have any idea as to why signal RGB or why possibly my PC doesn't want to do white led? I want to have white as a color but it keeps changing to red or if I can get close to white, I have to have the brightness super low which I don't want either.

Like look, this clearly isn't purple, and yet it went back to red? I'm confused.

[brisk jolt]

are ur fans supported by the rgb program

if not it might get fucked up

[keen plaza]

Lemme check

[topaz veldt]

Hit ups SignalRGB Discord - they've seen it all, they are helpful

[edgy laurel]

also keep in mind it may just be a hardware limitation

[keen plaza]

Sadly no, these fans are thermalright ring argb fans but not on the list, only montech type ring fans as far as I can see.

[edgy laurel]

the fans themselves will not be if connected to 3-pin ARGB of the motherboard

the ARGB controller of the motherboard will, however

[shell void]

i had a hang nail on my left pinky toe this morning

please pray for me

[edgy laurel]

rip that bitch off

towards you

[steel stream]

may god have mercy on your soul

[fringe vigil]

Tf

[edgy laurel]

also I can't think of a time I got a hangnail on my toes

[shell void]

i did this morning

[edgy laurel]

day is ruined

[shell void]

i will persevere through these challenging times with the support of my friends here in tech chat 2

[fringe vigil]

youre crusty if that happens to you

[keen plaza]

So you're saying I need a controller? Bc I don't have one

[edgy laurel]

for ARGB at all you need a controller, something to interface with the fans

either the one built into your motherboard, or a standalone one

assuming these are "standard" 3-pin ARGB devices

[keen plaza]

I plugged the fans into the argb plug in the motherboard

[edgy laurel]

ok, so the built in ARGB controller. That will show up as a device in Signal

[keen plaza]

Yes but it still shows this.

Which was the auto placed one that it did itself.

[edgy laurel]

Understand that the ARGB connection is not a "smart" connection, the board just sees ARGB devices it doesn't know what they are

it just sends out ARGB signaling

your fans aren't going to just show up there by make/model

[topaz veldt]

TFW when you are one of 3 people on an email with a big time CEO regarding our AI/ML GPU deployment strategies 💪

[edgy laurel]

time to impress

[keen plaza]

So buy a controller I'm guessing?

[edgy laurel]

sigh

signalrgb discord

[keen plaza]

Ikik,

I can put up a PC pretty decently but when it comes to fancy effects and stuff, I become dumb as a rock.

[topaz veldt]

I opened the email and was like ah what's the question here we just spo-... oh shit

[topaz veldt]

RGB and software ecosystem can be finicky. I am using Corsair Commander XT for a hub for RGB control because I know it works well with Signal, but hit up their discord and ask

[keen plaza]

Yeah it's being a lil annoying

So the signal RGB discord a member told me that it was bc not enough power through all fans and so I need to split em, problem is I only have one 3 pin connector

[topaz veldt]

Yeah, so buy a controller

or RGB hub if you just want them all sync'd

[edgy laurel]

yeah your channel has available LED's, but power may be an issue

[topaz veldt]

the # of LEDs is not accounting for power/etc. its accounting for addressability

[edgy laurel]

i know thats why I said power may be an issue

[topaz veldt]

That was for OP

[edgy laurel]

oh

my board has 3 channels of 80

[keen plaza]

Most likely this I'll need, I have 12 fans

[topaz veldt]

Yep - there are plenty on Amazon w/ SATA power

[keen plaza]

Good

Thank you for the help.

[edgy laurel]

powered ARGB hub

[stable turret]

what about frame warp?

[shell void]

reflex 2 is frame warp

[topaz veldt]

So who has bought BL4?

[edgy laurel]

Mac

[hoary hatch]

@shell void oh shit they're real

[topaz veldt]

is that it lol

[shell void]

clean

[edgy laurel]

only person i've seen post about it

[shell void]

it’ll be cool to see the 64GB version of that using two BMG-G31s

[hoary hatch]

🤔🤔🤔

That would make more sense than B770 at this point

[oak vector]

How much is it?

[edgy laurel]

$70 base

expected for high budget AAA titles

[oak vector]

If that’s usd
Then that’s hella unfortunate for me 😔

[edgy laurel]

it is, yes

[brisk jolt]

he got it for free xd

[sharp heart]

how much were these going for again?

[hoary hatch]

Redditor didn't reveal the price he acquired them at

But I think $1000-$1200

[sharp heart]

[sharp heart]

?

[fringe vigil]

so what

[sharp heart]

leave me alone

[fringe vigil]

looool

[sharp heart]

you must be fun

[topaz veldt]

relax ya'll

[fringe vigil]

Ikr

[bronze mango]

I did not just get an ad for crypto gaming 😭

What has society come to

[turbid locust]

Cool and fun but quite difficult to run

[bronze mango]

Literally some fake ass mf pretending to love crypto gaming

[turbid locust]

I need DLSS Performance and Frame Gen to hit my framerate cap

[brisk jolt]

that is actually crazy tf

[turbid locust]

yeah…

[sharp heart]

dlss performance

[turbid locust]

Looks great at 4K

But considering that means it’s rendering at 1080p and I still wasn’t getting 100fps before frame gen…

[sharp heart]

have you considered nvidia multi super duper framegen for your problems?

5070 = 4090

[turbid locust]

Luckily don’t need more than 2x but 3x would probably save someone’s experience on a 5070

[edgy laurel]

So good

[bronze mango]

Gotta use a physx card

[sharp heart]

what are you even running the game on if i may ask?

[edgy laurel]

here we go

[turbid locust]

14900k/5090

[sharp heart]

OH GOD

[turbid locust]

LMAO

yeah the game is… kinda brutal.

[sharp heart]

yeah i can tell...

[turbid locust]

BUT I will say BL3 also ran like shit on launch and they ended up making it run like less shit after awhile

[sharp heart]

ue5 + bad optimization + denuvo is a good combo i think

[turbid locust]

Denuvo and symbiote lmao

[bronze mango]

That's the issue

[sharp heart]

nono stop speaking

[bronze mango]

Too slow for modern gaming

[sharp heart]

with every sentence, the situation looks more dire

[turbid locust]

real

[brisk jolt]

not achieving 100 fps on a 5090 with DLSS performance is shameful

[devout ridge]

Depends on the game and resolution

if it's a 4k AAA game with RT, yeah you're probably not gonna get 100fps

[brisk jolt]

its BL4

[turbid locust]

Not even maxed out either. I turned settings down to Very High and High to see if it was graphics settings and… it barely gained performance.

[sharp heart]

you see, if you had been a better customer for nvidia and gotten an RTX Pro 6000, you might have gotten good fps

[turbid locust]

Rendering at 1080p on a 5090 tho?

[sharp heart]

the more you spend the more you save or w/e jensen said

[devout ridge]

If you have it set to DLSS performance mode, yeah not getting 100fps is rough

[turbid locust]

Yeah that’s what we’re talking about lol

[sharp heart]

is the 100fps mark including fake frames or not?

[devout ridge]

is it RT high, or PT

[turbid locust]

Not

[devout ridge]

Yeah they're just talking DLSS Upscaling, not FG

[turbid locust]

Idk I didn’t look too much into the RT settings tbh. I just know it’s forced.

[devout ridge]

If it's forced it's RT then, not PT

[turbid locust]

I get like 85-90 fps before frame gen.

[devout ridge]

no dev in their right mind would force PT

[bronze mango]

Why would you force either?

[turbid locust]

Frame gen 2x gets me to my 138fps fps cap

[bronze mango]

That's already a dev out of their right mind

[sharp heart]

that's sad

[turbid locust]

RT is becoming the default lighting engine and it makes sense

[devout ridge]

If you require RT you can better optimize it

[pure garnet]

rt lets you skip baked lighting

[bronze mango]

I high-key hate rt being on

[pure garnet]

and rn it’s generally fairly performant

[devout ridge]

That way you don't have to optimize Raster and RT lighting

[bronze mango]

Baked lighting looks better tbh

[devout ridge]

RT has the potential to be more performant than Raster if done well

[brisk jolt]

reminds me that one guy on the 5080 in 1440p ultra settings got like 40 fps xd

[bronze mango]

And for reflections, rt lighting has a delay generally that makes it annoying and yucky feeling

Rt makes 100 fps feel like 30 at times

[devout ridge]

Never experienced that

And i use RT almost universally

[brisk jolt]

erm, source trust me bro?

[turbid locust]

Doom TDA forces RT and runs completely fine

[bronze mango]

Most games have the reflection update at a lower rate than the game fps

[sharp heart]

must be low 1% no?

[wraith steeple]

[bronze mango]

No, it's the fact that your reflection are usually literally at that lower fps

[devout ridge]

That would be a poor implementation of RT if that existed

[bronze mango]

That's how most games do it

Including cyberpunk

[sharp heart]

idk for cyberpunk, all i noticed was that the reflections took a while to update after stopping motion

[bronze mango]

I can't play cyberpunk with rt on because the delayed reflections updating at a lower fps than the game makes it feel yucky and yncanny

It feels console like even at a high fps

[sharp heart]

the human eye cant see past 30fps

[bronze mango]

If that was true I'd love raytracing in games

But in reality it ends up feeling more fatiguing and looking less immersive

Makes good screenshots

But if I wanted to just get an image and not a game I'd make a render

Genuinely, forcing it to be on it evil

[sharp heart]

yeah even light implementations shouldnt be forced upon the player

light as in lightweight

[bronze mango]

Because it's a bad tech with more cons than pros. It's issues don't really boil down to performance, so GPUs getting faster doesn't fix the issue.

[turbid locust]

I think if you’re gonna force RT then you gotta optimize it

Otherwise give people a toggle

[bronze mango]

But like I said, even when performance is good, I can't handle the way the reflections delay and are out of phase with the image

It bugs anyone who is very observant and will add more mental fatigue to play the game to anyone in general because of that.

[brisk jolt]

pov hes raytracing with a rx 6800 with FSR 3 fg

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[bronze mango]

Again, it's an issue with the tech, not the performance

I would be fine with 60fps even in cyberpunk if my reflections updated in phase with the image and at the same rate

[turbid locust]

[pure garnet]

rasterized lighting has been forced on for decades

[bronze mango]

Because it works

It won't cause you a headache

[merry stirrup]

only one way to transition

[wise bear]

😏

[turbid locust]

Peyton no lmao

[brisk jolt]

he might be raytracing on a RX6800 with FSR3.0 FG and AFMF enabled for that 100 fps raytraced experience ngl

[bronze mango]

I don't use fsr

I dislike it too.

[wise bear]

dlss/aa ftw

[bronze mango]

My complaints are with the inherently behaviors of the technology. No need to fight a straw man.

[turbid locust]

Counter argument: ya momma

[bronze mango]

It's not even an argument

It's just a tech with issues

[wise bear]

thats..

thats the joke bio

[turbid locust]

God I hope GTA 6 is more optimized than BL4

[brisk jolt]

idk, ive never had issues running raytracing on the 5070ti, 5080 nor 5090

especially with what ur describing

[merry stirrup]

everything during its early conception is going to have issues. the push toward rt is not going to stop and it will eventually replace raster as a whole

[granite dirge]

Isn't just. A bio oc .. caffeinated status.

[devout ridge]

caffeine is more so removing the power limit

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats fair

caffiene stops your body from making the tired

[devout ridge]

caffeine doesn’t give you energy, but it does prevent you from feeling tired

[merry stirrup]

it doesnt make you faster

thats just crack

[brisk jolt]

i thought caffeine just blocks the tired chemical

[devout ridge]

Correct

[brisk jolt]

or brain signal

[merry stirrup]

i thought it stopped it from being made

no thats ibuprofen

my bad

[devout ridge]

It blocks the receptor for adenosine

[merry stirrup]

i locked in im sorry

[devout ridge]

the adenosine (sleepy chemical), is still there, it’s just unable to bind to the neurons

caffeine binds to those receptors, but not well enough for it to be active

[granite dirge]

im trying to work on neatening up my setup and removing a usb charger, from the wall is there a usb hub that i could do using usb 3.0 from the back of my pc, through like, a 20 or so foot wire, to like a 3 port usb hub, that i could plug in a usb to micro usb cable to charge my keyboard, a usb to usb c, to be able to use my xbox series controller on pc (my bluetooth adapter is finicky) and a port to charge my hyper x wireless headphones? not sure on what all the cables/ hubs i should get are....

[devout ridge]

you’d need an active optical cable

[granite dirge]

huh?

[devout ridge]

20ft is well and above the usb 3.0 spec

[wise bear]

wat

[granite dirge]

whats an optical cable?

[devout ridge]

uses fiber optic for longer transmission distances

[wise bear]

optical data cable

you can also just get an active (repeater) usb3 cable..

[granite dirge]

im already lost....

[wise bear]

https://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-Active-Extension-Meters-Repeater/dp/B087LSFS6R

[granite dirge]

so get that, cable from back of pc, to the hub, any reccomendations for hubs?

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Transfer-Ultra-Slim-Charging-Supported/dp/B07L32B9C2/ref=sr_1_3

[pure garnet]

i own one like that and it works perfectly fine

[granite dirge]

and then what cable do i need as usb c, to normal usb to use a xbox controller?

i see listings for data, charging, fast charging, i dunno

[pure garnet]

usb c to normal usb a yeah

[frank zealot]

I would 110% send that to the news

[wise bear]

hes not pulled over theres no reds&blues

also they dont pull people over like that in the middle of the street side-by-side

[merry stirrup]

youre assuming the image is saying hes being pulled over

[devout ridge]

they’re saying that they have been pulled over for texting and driving before

[merry stirrup]

hes saying hes been pulled over in the past for texting at the wheel

[wise bear]

OH I SEE

[merry stirrup]

YES

[shell void]

oh boy we can see our ram temperatures by using a display that will increase ram temperatures!

[merry stirrup]

that looks terrible what if its eink and draws no power then what mike

[wise bear]

how are you gonna even see the display..

[merry stirrup]

gonna buy it? huh huh?

[frank zealot]

then you need lights shining at it to be able to read it lol

[wise bear]

are frivilous displays the new rgb

[merry stirrup]

yes

[wise bear]

i hate kids

they caused this

somehow

[merry stirrup]

i wwant a 5070ti with a screen

[wise bear]

no floppa

your mac signed card is enough

yop

[frank zealot]

https://youtu.be/36u782fl0dM

[wise bear]

NO NO NO NO NO

I want to die

[merry stirrup]

all the metrics all the logging

fuck you warship piece of shit bawt

[wise bear]

all the display overhead..

[merry stirrup]

thats the purpose of a fast computer

[frank zealot]

I think it's funny when the LCD Control software for all the displays had the "IDLE" CPU Usage at around 30% lol

[devout ridge]

finally a reason for multi GPU

[wise bear]

YEAH because half of those displays are USB

ugh i fucking hate it

[frank zealot]

80%+ lol

[devout ridge]

GPU 1 for gaming, GPU 2/3 for all the internal screens

[merry stirrup]

yesssss

i like this.

[wise bear]

god stop giving floppa ideas

[merry stirrup]

digital signage cards in my consumer rig

[devout ridge]

GPU0 for internal screens too

Use all the graphical power available

[granite dirge]

i think i figured it out

pc to https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087LSFS6R/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3TG9YEWX61L6A&th=1 to https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L32B9C2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ&th=1 to https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPCK3RSP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ&th=1 and http://amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCJE1RE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AKXVBT49GGF3B&th=1

to my xbox series controller, my corsair k63, and my hyperx headphones

[merry stirrup]

what is the ghoal here

im lost

[wise bear]

ghoul

[merry stirrup]

gob

[wise bear]

bob

[merry stirrup]

hollon 4:44 is on

[granite dirge]

to not use the ikea power puck, i have plugged in the wall contantly, to charge my keyboard, and to have easier charging for the headset, and not have to deal with cable clutter on the floor of a 16 foot usb c to c, cable to use the xbox series controller cause the bluetooth dongle is super finicky, so i figured this would be a neat and tidy solution to all those,?

[merry stirrup]

seems legit

[brisk jolt]

yo add more screens I can almost see the computer components

[merry stirrup]

where is the apple music quality settings

i can count the bitrate i am hearing

[frank zealot]

make sure you buy a Lian Li Edge PSU for extra USB 2 headers

[merry stirrup]

i found it

[merry stirrup]

just use crappy hubs

[frank zealot]

Have you not seen the "screen on the glass panel" mod?

you can get both

[shell void]

285K supremacy

[topaz veldt]

You actually think a squad car laptop could play hell divers 2?

[devout ridge]

game streaming service

[low sorrel]

Define play

[topaz veldt]

installed on a squad car laptop?

This is kind of funny

[devout ridge]

really incompetent IT team

[topaz veldt]

They purchase deployed systems

[devout ridge]

really persistent cop gamer

[topaz veldt]

My friend is a contractor - they aren't like... admins of a laptop using a cell modem lol

they're not even "online"

for obvious reasons

[devout ridge]

so that they're essentially pseudo airgapped i presume

[topaz veldt]

they're always-on VPN'd

[devout ridge]

also how many friends in odd places do you have

[topaz veldt]

I am a former gov't contractor...

[devout ridge]

I swear in every convo you're like "oh yeah i got a friend that does that"

That makes sense

[topaz veldt]

Those laptops also log everything

There were/are many cases of jealous ex's who are cops looking up addresses of people their wives/girlfriends are with...

[devout ridge]

I really hope that wasn't retroactively added years ago

[topaz veldt]

What do you mean

[devout ridge]

That it was always a thing, and that it wasn't added in response to a tragic event

[topaz veldt]

I mean as technology progressed people abused it, yes. I doubt it was in play from the start.

[frank zealot]

fucking hell I hate windows:

One of our PCs is running as a digital billboard, and for some reason it randomly locks the screen every 3ish days.

But it's set to never do that, and there is nothing in the event viewer saying it's locking / screensaver / whatever.

I know it was running fine yesterday morning (9-10AM ish, I checked) and then in the afternoon it was locked

[devout ridge]

Why run digital signage on windows

[frank zealot]

the only system events are all the perfectly normal "windows is doing whatever it's doing in the background"

sometimes it gets used to do other things and it's just easier

I just do not grok why it's randomly locking without any logging in the system event viewer

[wise bear]

& generally over their own band of 4g/5g :D

i think its called firstnet or something

[modest laurel]

Peeps, are amd GPU considered not budget friendly anymore?

[devout ridge]

Still more budget friendly than NVIDIA

[edgy laurel]

depends on the card, and what you consider "budget"

[frank zealot]

there are no budget friendly GPUs today, save maybe the ARC B580

[modest laurel]

Relatively still make sense to buy, fps per dollar

[modest laurel]

Just saw short abwt this Intel being a budget friendly GPU makers now

[frank cypress]

let's goooo i got a same day doctor appointment

💪 💪 💪

[low sorrel]

Wtf

[modest laurel]

Which is kinda unheard and very surprising

[frank zealot]

intel's the only GPU Manuf that makes a useful GPU under 300 bucks

[low sorrel]

That's like winning the lottery

[frank cypress]

was really worried id have to wait over the weekend

[low sorrel]

Why you need doctor

[modest laurel]

AMD don't make those anymore?

[frank zealot]

nope, the 9060 non-xt is 300 bucks and is pretty crap

the only things they've made in the last 5 years under 300 bucks were the 6500 and 6400, both of which were absolute trash tier

[median granite]

what cpu pairs best with a 9070xt?

[wise bear]

hey google can you answer this dude's question

[frank zealot]

new? 7700x or 9700x probably

[median granite]

im getting a range of answers

[frank zealot]

because there is no one answer

[median granite]

so i wanted to get an opinion here thats all

[wise bear]

because there's a literal range of cpus

[median granite]

im aware I just wanted another opnion

[wise bear]

I'm with tk, go 7700x

[low sorrel]

Basically anything in the 3 years

[frank zealot]

you don't need an x3d chip to match the 9070, so save the money there

[median granite]

ah i see okay thanks

[shell void]

what are you using the PC for, what refresh rate is your monitor, and what country do you live in?

[median granite]

mainly gaming, 240hz screen but also vr sim racing, i live in the uk

[wise bear]

also what's your bank info and we need your social ID number

[lone scarab]

also your personal information as well

[wise bear]

yeah we need your address and closest hospital

[frank zealot]

(on an AMD GPU, it should be gaming, because productivity ain't the strong suit)

[wise bear]

and your preferred food of choice

[lone scarab]

if possible tell us your wifi pass

[low sorrel]

Mother's maiden name

[shell void]

for high refresh gaming and VR SIM you would benefit greatly from the 9800X3D if you can safely afford it

[frank zealot]

AYCE Korean BBQ

[wise bear]

I just like food

[low sorrel]

Whatever's cheap

[wise bear]

pls share food with

[median granite]

yeah that does go a bit out my budget is there anything else?

[lone scarab]

i love whatever has no seafood in it

[wise bear]

plebian

[lone scarab]

dont be mad

[low sorrel]

What why you hate seafood

[brisk jolt]

threadripper 9995WX

[wise bear]

fish is delish

[frank zealot]

9700x is the step down from 9800x3d

[wise bear]

crab is tasty af

[lone scarab]

i just dont like fish and talking about crabs and shrimps, i dont feel like trying them out.

[wise bear]

OH COME ON WARSHIP

[brisk jolt]

lmao

[median granite]

that one seems a bit more do able

[lone scarab]

i will update you if there is any cjange in my preferances

[brisk jolt]

nice try peyton

[shell void]

i would check if there are any good combo deals on the i5 14600K or U7 265K, and if not then pick a 9600X or 7700X depending on which is cheaper

[low sorrel]

Peyton do I get onigiri or sushi

[frank cypress]

crab <3333

[wise bear]

I'm gonna headbutt warship's server and call it an overacheiving fuckwit

[frank zealot]

onigiri is more of a 'on the go' kinda food

[wraith steeple]

I am happy to say that things have been resolved for the TG DeltaMate ordeal

[wise bear]

onigiri lets goooo

[lone scarab]

also i didnt like mcdonalds

[wise bear]

get wendys

[lone scarab]

fries were too slaty and meal was just overpriced

[frank cypress]

oh so you're gonna be receiving one after all?

[lone scarab]

i better eat greek gyros

[frank zealot]

yeeroos are the bestest

[low sorrel]

Don't diss mc fries

[wise bear]

greek/mediterranian cuisine is so fucking fire

[lone scarab]

well

[lone scarab]

ikr

[wise bear]

dude all fast food fries are meant to be salty that's their entire point

[wraith steeple]

Yep they asked if I was willing to wait 2-3 weeks for restock and I basically said "hell yeah!"

[brisk jolt]

2-3 weeks of pain

[lone scarab]

well i dont like them being too salty

[frank cypress]

oh lit

[frank zealot]

ask for no salt

[frank cypress]

glad they made it right

[wise bear]

get on spironolactone and you can eat all the salt you want

[brisk jolt]

add sugar to counteract the salt

[wise bear]

its like floppa said
"There's only one way to transition"

[frank zealot]

more pickles?

[wise bear]

transition to a salt-heavy diet with Spiro

It's a better way to eat

[wraith steeple]

TBF Thermal Grizzly is a small company after all. All that matters to me is we are still getting the block yoooo

[wise bear]

This is such a stupid fucking bit on my part

[wraith steeple]

[median granite]

thank you I will have a look, would a B650-plus mobo work well or should I get something a little bit better

[frank zealot]

a decent B650 is all you need really

[frank cypress]

https://videocardz.com/newz/v-color-announces-xfinity-ddr5-memory-with-built-in-oled-display-up-to-9000mt-s-on-intel-and-amd-platforms

[wise bear]

its so stupid

comcast is so going to send them a C&D lmaooo

[edgy laurel]

only a matter of time

[low sorrel]

Why

[wise bear]

please tech industry just bring back the days of beige/black, bland af cases that are actually fucking functional

[merry stirrup]

I think im going to make some moves on this work TV thats broken

for mi mdare

[wise bear]

hell yea

what a good son

[merry stirrup]

the backlight and panel flash so that means they both work

so theres something wrong with one of the boards

and guess what i noticed on the power board

[low sorrel]

Wot

[wise bear]

burnt component?

[wise bear]

oh what a surprise /s

[merry stirrup]

makes me thing this 40$ power board is the culprit

[wise bear]

potentially

[merry stirrup]

and a 4k hdr tv for 40$ is kinda meta

ill multi meter and verify, there should be one on site if not ill tkae the board home

[low sorrel]

What tv is it?

[merry stirrup]

TCL 55S517

[wise bear]

control board is only $50, too

[merry stirrup]

yeah

the psu makes a noise when i plug it in

its like it wants to die

[wise bear]

oh yeah those caps are probably dried tf out

[merry stirrup]

my thoughts

[frank zealot]

I support functionality, but I prefer a good grey

[merry stirrup]

and the fact itll sometimes light up the backlight and panel so i can see really makes me think its just this board

[wise bear]

I'm okay with wood accents but please stop with the fucking fishtank cases they're so goddamn stupid

[frank zealot]

But what "functionality" does a modern case need today?

non NVME Drives are way less common... uhhh what else needs to go into a case?

[wise bear]

literally smaller cases pls

[frank zealot]

tell that to GPU Manufs

[low sorrel]

Actually a pretty good TV

[wise bear]

methinks its unsmoothed power to the transformer from the dried out caps causing coil whine

[merry stirrup]

for 50$ cant be mad

[merry stirrup]

it didnt sound like this when we p ut it in iis all i know

[shell void]

that thing is not doing hdr twin https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/5-series-2018

it’s 300nits and has no local dimming

[merry stirrup]

its for my mom she doesnt care

[low sorrel]

I mean you can put a 5090 into pretty small cases

[merry stirrup]

shes on a 55 inch 1080p tv

[wise bear]

get that queen an upgrade

[merry stirrup]

but noted i wont try hdr

[pure garnet]

40 inch 1080 tv 🔥🔥🔥

i got it for free though so i can’t complain

[merry stirrup]

i think im going to call my investigation complete and buy a new power board

ill leave this one out

puttin it back together

[low sorrel]

I have a 50in 1080 tv

[wise bear]

50" 4k 2 feet away

totally gonna need glasses by the end of the year lmao

[pure garnet]

i already need glasses but i just don’t wear them so 1080p doesn’t bother me

built in fsr

[low sorrel]

So it looks like ass

[brisk jolt]

oh god thats like 10 ppi or smth

[wise bear]

40

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/EoSoElmw--M?si=TujvuTJbPdbkVZ0N

[brisk jolt]

5090 dlss performance not getting 100 fps as quoted by mac

[frank zealot]

If you look at:

ATX Board Height (305mm)

• AIO Rad Clearance (60mm)
• PSU Thickness (85mm)

That's 450mm tall

Add some height for feet, case parts / walls etc?

that's easily clearing 500mm tall minimum So about 20" Tall

Then for length?
GPU Length (325mm)

• Front AIO Clearance (60mm)
• Various case clearance specs, etc. You're again clearing 400mm easily so 16+ inches front to back.

GPU Height can easily be 135mm +

So adding cable space behind the mobo tray, you're looking at 175mm+ wide case? So, 7-8 inch minimum.

so a standard ATX Case that support most hardware would be at a minimum:

L x W x H = 16"+ x 7"+ x 20"

[wise bear]

ok so lets just ditch atx

[brisk jolt]

lets all collectively use corsair sfx psus now

[frank zealot]

it would only shorten a case by a couple inches, the rest of the dimensions would stay the same

to support modern 3 fan chonker GPUs, cases need to be fat fuckers

[wise bear]

gross

[frank zealot]

Never said you had to like it, that's just what the current state of parts is

[low sorrel]

Let's all move to matx

[fringe vigil]

wasup

[wise bear]

not u

[fringe vigil]

peyton still mad

[frank zealot]

#tech-chat-2 message

[wise bear]

I'm not mad, I just think you're gross is all

[fringe vigil]

HOW BRUH

[wise bear]

We already went over this last time so let's jsut move on ok

[frank zealot]

jorj's self reflection skill is a negative number

[fringe vigil]

dont make dumass accusations bish

[wise bear]

I'm not a politician so I can't really do that

[fringe vigil]

u mad bro

[frank zealot]

no jorj, you sound mad

[wise bear]

[fringe vigil]

nope nope andddddd nope

[frank zealot]

oh so he does put the effort in to click and read my messages still, despite blocking me

[shell void]

didn’t even break 60fps 1% low at 1080p lolololol

[fringe vigil]

bruh aint heard abouyt bl4 once

[shell void]

is the game using pathtracing at max settings or something

[vestal granite]

bro do they actually just not know xfinity is already a thing

my immediate instinct was that it was the company xfinity making memory

[brisk jolt]

Game name: Borderlands 4
Community name: Stutterlands 4

[edgy laurel]

Randy said you need an SSD

its a factor in the hitching

no shit, Randy. its 2025

[sly moon]

I am seeing a bunch of 50 series cards and 90 series cards on Clearance, that's weird

[merry stirrup]

buy them all

leave the 90s tho

[sly moon]

The 5060 tis 8gb are under msrp

[frank zealot]

Guilty, Michael, I'm rolling:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/315156776951036/

[fervent scaffold]

Because nobody wants them lol

[sly moon]

5070s are still over it seems

[frank zealot]

8gb cards are ass tier, and nobody should buy them

[brisk jolt]

tell me whoever has some form of knowledge will willingly buy a 5060ti 8gb (unless benchmarker)

[sly moon]

which is probs why they are under msrp and honestly still too much

[frank zealot]

Someone really wanted those extra 5 fps, but not enough VRAM?

[fervent scaffold]

I just finished another build and he got a 5070ti for a really reasonable price as far as im aware

[sly moon]

Cheapest 5070 non open box is 578 us

[merry stirrup]

not bad

[fervent scaffold]

New from amazon

[merry stirrup]

5070tis should be 750 rn

[fervent scaffold]

I think thats what he paid for a Gigabyte wind force card

[merry stirrup]

they r

[sly moon]

There is a single 9070xt for 650 US
that's the cheapest none open box

[merry stirrup]

yes

i have asus

[brisk jolt]

“PCs can be faster than PS5s”

“But is your PC faster?”
“Well, kinda”
1080p low because of insufficient vram

[fervent scaffold]

I overpaid out the ass for my 5070ti

[wise bear]

one whole sus

[sly moon]

852.16 Us 5070 ti

[wise bear]

lmao i got mine for 750

[frank zealot]

MICROCENTER, BRUH

Wat you doin?! This ain't right

[fervent scaffold]

Because im dumb and wanted the vanguard card to match my mobo

[sly moon]

1156 Us 5080

[merry stirrup]

microcenter sells my mouse which is wild

[merry stirrup]

where?

like where are you

[sly moon]

Canada

[merry stirrup]

dont translate to usd but that sounds better

[sly moon]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/clearance?id_category=915&s=&a=0&b=0&order=product.price.asc

[merry stirrup]

but that is indeed absurd

[fervent scaffold]

Am I wrong for thinking a 7800x3d is slightly overkill for a 5070ti build

[edgy laurel]

i'd love to see what 1080p + DLSS-P + 4x FG looks and feels like on a 5060Ti 8GB

[edgy laurel]

no

[sly moon]

the cheapest is 1,089 cad aka 787 us

[edgy laurel]

er, yes, you're wrong

[merry stirrup]

this one yeah

my ks holds me back in like 2 titles

[fervent scaffold]

He wanted a 9800x3d but i convinced him to save some money and go down to a 7800x3d

[merry stirrup]

fi you can afford either of them just get the new one

[fervent scaffold]

I mean considering what he uses it for

[merry stirrup]

unless its like a bazillion dollars more

[brisk jolt]

half a tb, 16gb ddr5, and a 14700 operating at an astounishing 1.5ghz

[merry stirrup]

astoundishing

astonishing and astounding together

[edgy laurel]

I said this the other day but if you can get the new one without sacrificing elsewhere, do that. If not, don't overspend on the CPU. @fervent scaffold

[sly moon]

I think I can wait 2 -3 more years for a 9070 xt ngl

[low sorrel]

What happen

[brisk jolt]

i am at a loss for words

14700 at 1.5 ghz

[merry stirrup]

mister doesnt know the cpus have turbo boost

thats the base clock, something you will never ever ever see even in normal operation

[fervent scaffold]

I ended up picking the microcenter bundle for him with the 7800x3d and asus tuf b850

[edgy laurel]

Will play games for a number of years just fine

[low sorrel]

Let's all move to 5090 fes

[fervent scaffold]

Considering he mostly plays rust, I agree, lol

[low sorrel]

People still play rust?

[fervent scaffold]

Its all he plays really, i never see him on anything else even tho he says otherwise

[brisk jolt]

idk ive never played rust

[fervent scaffold]

Ive never played it either

I just know its not a super demanding game

[sly moon]

They really should be lower at this point but my card is doing well and the only reason I'd upgrade is to upgrade my monitor so I can wait

[merry stirrup]

mmmm 1440p 360hz oled

[sly moon]

I am fine with a 240hz honestly

[merry stirrup]

not true

[brisk jolt]

ew 1440p 240

Either QHD360/UHD240 or go home

[low sorrel]

I'll go home with my wallet

[sly moon]

I don't see the value in 360hz ngl, I am happy to learn

[merry stirrup]

idk look smoov

[sly moon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I need to see side by side

[brisk jolt]

360hz is smoother than 240 but going 240>360 isnt that big

[sly moon]

cause rn I've only seen oled tvs in person and wasn't impressed

[low sorrel]

I would rather have 4k 144 then 1440 360

[brisk jolt]

180 and lower to 360 is optimal

[sly moon]

I'd have to upscale for 4k tho

[brisk jolt]

hell nah im not taking anything below 240 like icl

in the sub 150s is criminal for me now

[low sorrel]

Ok 165hz 4k

[brisk jolt]

240

[low sorrel]

I turned off 120hz on my phone to save battery

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ae85-ae86-gif-9107564014946155462

120hz to 60hz experiencr

dude spent so much time debating on the motherboard for his “woodgrain” build it turned out to be generic af

[low sorrel]

I turned on 120hz on my phone again and I can barely tell the difference

[brisk jolt]

overpriced asus x670e proart

[fervent scaffold]

What about the colorful 7800x3d build i just finished for my sisters boyfriend

I hate it tbh

[brisk jolt]

those fans are poisonous

[fervent scaffold]

I hate fish tank cases

I also hate bottom fans

[merry stirrup]

its missing something

those fans are also like 30 cents per

[fervent scaffold]

5070ti in the mail

[merry stirrup]

gud

[fervent scaffold]

In like a week

[merry stirrup]

make it faster

[brisk jolt]

bleh

[shell void]

how do they expect people to play this game?

use minimum settings or cope with 45fps

[edgy laurel]

Clearly expect people to make full use of upscaling and frame gen, honestly

[wraith steeple]

How is TC2 this lovely whatever time it is?

[brisk jolt]

awake at 2am

[merry stirrup]

its 11:13 am

i want to go home early today at work even though i have been often

[whole coral]

It’s 2:13 PM here

[merry stirrup]

do i send it y/n

[brisk jolt]

im on the opposite timezone

[merry stirrup]

singapore yea

[devout ridge]

i have a migraine

[whole coral]

Such a beautiful day today. Going for a walk

[merry stirrup]

had a singaporean friend named nazri he was cool

[whole coral]

Low humidity. Comfortable temps

[shell void]

i love playing at 720p with 50ms of input delay 🔥

it takes me back to the xbox 360 days

[edgy laurel]

yeah man, its not good. i'd say i'm holding off playing due to that but its really just a backlog issue

[frank zealot]

... okay Nintendo, I know you've done some absolutely bonkers left field moves before, but...

Lemme just say that this was NOT going to make my bingo card....

[shell void]

yeah people can play the game like two gpu generations from now :p

[merry stirrup]

borderlands 2 is my favorite game of all time and i dont think i played through 3 more than once or twice

i have like 2000 hours in bl2

[pure garnet]

that's low fr

[merry stirrup]

not really for a single player game

[frank zealot]

my FO4 logged time is terrifying

[merry stirrup]

fallout is fire

fonv fo4 fo3 all pretty good video games

[pure garnet]

i think pre sequel was the only borderlands i played for awhile

[merry stirrup]

pre sequel was also goated but not great

[pure garnet]

sleep broke on the x3d

[merry stirrup]

i just didnt like most of the gvault hunters

[pure garnet]

guess i’m keeping the intel setup

[merry stirrup]

BACK TO INTEL

[pure garnet]

nah i purposefully didn’t swap it around

till it could do it for 2 weeks straight

and it failed

[merry stirrup]

bros smart

[shell void]

would you guys rather have GoodTop or Xtreme AI Top?

[pure garnet]

it takes me like 2-3 hours to rebuild 2 h5 flows so

i didn’t wanna do it till i was sure

[merry stirrup]

good top but real or extreme ai top

idk i think im taking the ai top

why is there thousands of people watching ebay live streams

[shell void]

that is a valid choice my friend

[merry stirrup]

🤝

[shell void]

cute

[merry stirrup]

how many dolans tho

i'll take an almost racist 10g switch if its cheap enough

[shell void]

it’s not necessarily cheap

$190 through amazon

[merry stirrup]

is that even a good price hollon

[shell void]

it’s typical

[brisk jolt]

im taking the AI bottom

[shell void]

[whole coral]

Awesome

[merry stirrup]

yea

aliexpress confirms

[pure garnet]

ebay live what?

[topaz veldt]

so this is hilarious...

[merry stirrup]

thats what im SAYING bro

[merry stirrup]

jesus fuck

for 2 months of that fee you can buy a 5090

and you can find the rest of the hardware behind a business

[topaz veldt]

heres the thing

[merry stirrup]

24 month contract?

[merry stirrup]

lol

[topaz veldt]

how are they running a 5090 anywhere near useful in PCIe 3.0

[merry stirrup]

😭 pain

[topaz veldt]

Does it even work?

[merry stirrup]

wonder waht 5090s theyd be if they can fit in a real server

[fringe vigil]

Does usa have dominoes

[merry stirrup]

some shitter blower cards? esp if theres 2

[topaz veldt]

I suspect these are like white box servers with no chassis

[merry stirrup]

ah

[topaz veldt]

i just wouldn't think 5090 would even play nice at 3.0

[merry stirrup]

i dont think it loses a bunch of performance but im not sure how bandwidth intensive real workloads are vs gaming

[young void]

Its not to bad, not great but usually the cheapo route should only lose 5% ish give or take

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pci-express-scaling/3.html

This is a fair representation

[frank zealot]

people are running plenty of 5000 series on PCIE 3, because they don't know how to build computers.

So the card will work fine.

As for performance it's gonna depend on how I/O heavy the work is. (If most of the work is loading up the VRAM and letting it number crunch? I'd expect little performance hit there.)

[low sorrel]

I mean theres probably a subset on a old AM4 board that upgraded to a 5800x3d and a 50 series GPU

[pure garnet]

yeah the b350 self torture setup

[frank zealot]

I mean, I've seen plenty of B450 + 5600 boards getting upgraded to 5000's

[young void]

Happens

[frank zealot]

people still buy B450 for some unknown reason

[young void]

Cheap AI/server rigs

[pure garnet]

i remember the b450 tomahawk max being put in almost every build list

[wraith steeple]

Internet is down

[shell void]

joever

[low sorrel]

cheap

I can get them for like 40 bucks locally

[green marsh]

the brand names are unghinged

[green marsh]

because B450 MAX boards were one of the better cheap boards of it's time. It had very good VRM (better than many X470), good feature set etc

[lone scarab]

nice name

[lone scarab]

if i ever go to mcdonalds

[green marsh]

still nothing is as disturbing as X370 BTC board

[merry stirrup]

why would someone pick ryzen as their mining platform during x370 lol

[green marsh]

it has a whole 1 RAM slot

[merry stirrup]

lol

[green marsh]

i think these came with those A9 CPUs, the pre-Ryzen AM4

[merry stirrup]

ohh okie

makes more sense

[green marsh]

this guy has an A6-9500 in it

[merry stirrup]

youd always just see pentiums

[fringe vigil]

what up what up

[low sorrel]

Didn't miners usally use core 2 duos and shit

[merry stirrup]

whatever they could get their grubby hands on, but there was no core 2 mining boards

usuaully 6/7/8/9th gen pentium based

[merry stirrup]

so not ideal, usually only one pcie slot

[green marsh]

(those "usb" are PCIe x1)

[stable turret]

i can get ATX b450 boards under $30, and 3600x at $40 in a huge quantity, and they are more than usable for regular office suite.

[stable turret]

im trypophobic just by looking at the board

[green marsh]

the other end of stupid miner board is this

[low sorrel]

so turns out i accidentally disabled automatic software updates on my phone

so now im like 10 verisions behind

[merry stirrup]

can you jailbreak it or is it android

[pallid marsh]

Dumbass

[merry stirrup]

ig can you root it then

[stable turret]

on the positive side, at least you are not gonna be 11 versions behind.

[green marsh]

or he can just upgrade

[low sorrel]

Knox

[low sorrel]

says the combat engie that got less radios then the hat

[bronze mango]

1 ram slot and 2 24 pin power lol

[merry stirrup]

whats hta

[low sorrel]

basically you root you fucked

[pallid marsh]

Hey I got more armored vehicles then the hat

[merry stirrup]

freedom or something idk

[low sorrel]

we got the same amount

[merry stirrup]

(0)

[frank zealot]

Here's something from another circle of mine that also applies to gamer nerds:

[pallid marsh]

You killed light skinned cars that any riflemen could mag dump and kill

[merry stirrup]

no man the rtx 5060 is overpriced cause i only hgave 80$ for a gpu

now i have to get a chinese rx 590

[low sorrel]

nuh uh i shot a heli out of the air

[merry stirrup]

smh no competent 80$ gpus what has this world become

[merry stirrup]

i miss the 1080Ti

[pallid marsh]

A grenadier or heavy mg could do that

[low sorrel]

40mm does nothing to helis

5.56 does more damage lol

[pallid marsh]

You can one shot the tail rotor

Source I've done it 😎

[low sorrel]

nope you need 4

welcome to squad

[pallid marsh]

I've done it with one

[low sorrel]

is that google ai

[low sorrel]

oh if you hit it in the right place it's almost a one shot

tail roter probably had a little bit of damage

[pallid marsh]

Ofc

[low sorrel]

coopa

explain why a tandem does more damage to a heli then a heat round

and a frag round does even less

[pallid marsh]

Two explosions

[low sorrel]

i saw that

[stable turret]

im currently selling my gtx 1080 at $80

[low sorrel]

so why does a frag round do even less

[frank zealot]

holy shitballs, this is awesome:

[topaz veldt]

There's a LOT of moving large datasets into vRAM from disk, RAG data acces, etc.

I knew I kept this XSPC D5 Vario around for a reason @wraith steeple

[edgy laurel]

hole-e-fuck

[pallid marsh]

Balancing? Since frags are more plentiful and cheap

[stable turret]

prob not durable and plastic is not a good material for a PC case

[frank zealot]

Sure, but even PCIE Gen 3 can move 32GB of data in around 1 second, so that's still not terrible

[low sorrel]

frags are the same as heat rounds in cost

[pallid marsh]

Oh

[frank zealot]

that's.... that's where you went? okay, sure

[pallid marsh]

Ew $80 for a card losing game ready drivers

[frank zealot]

that's so fuckin' dedicated

[topaz veldt]

Yeah though its not 1 and done. The GPU is capable of 1,792 GB/s. Terrible configuration.

[topaz veldt]

I have never seen a single 5090 running on PCIe 3.0 lol

[stable turret]

just sold it

[topaz veldt]

People don't realize a lego box is a static nightmare lol - fun project but not practical

[frank zealot]

Neither have I, lol. I can't imagine there's anyone buyone one dumb enough to actually put it in gen 3

[topaz veldt]

There's a company selling it was my point

[frank zealot]

I mean, if anyone's dumb enough to spend 900 a month with a 2yr contract on a box they could buy 2-3 times over for that price?

They deserve what they get

[topaz veldt]

I bet thats not how you felt about NZXT renting people PCs 😉

[stable turret]

question, im using a pcie gen 3 as well for my rtx 4070 ti super. how much of a performance gain can i expect if i upgrade ot a board that supports pcie 4.0 x16, 5%?

[frank zealot]

this company explicitly lists what you get.

NZXT didn't do that as well. Which makes a difference.

[topaz veldt]

@frank zealot in fact.... lol

[frank zealot]

yeah, fuck NZXT for a list of reasons

[topaz veldt]

Nah dude the people get what they deserve

[pure garnet]

sounds like rent a center

[topaz veldt]

They could build the PC for the rental price 3 times over

[frank zealot]

it was worse:

Rent a center, you at least rented to own that overpriced crap.

You NEVER owned the NZXT PC

[topaz veldt]

But they get what they deserve

[frank zealot]

if you don't do your homework, sometimes that do happen

[topaz veldt]

You didn't say that then, though;

[pallid marsh]

But nzxt owned your data you didn't delete once you returned your PC

[frank zealot]

oops, I accidentally managed to put 120AC through the contacts on the mobo!!! my bad!

[topaz veldt]

Its not rocket science to pay like $90/mo on a 4060 PC that you can own it in 12 months

But you faulted NZXT not the consumer back then, just saying, oh well receipts are weird

[green marsh]

i killed my Pi 1 with 12V through power pins on GPIO (thus going around the protection fuse)

[frank zealot]

NZXT had shit advertising and plenty of fault in it, too.
Just not all of it.

[topaz veldt]

No math is simple

[fringe vigil]

Snail snail

[topaz veldt]

$1000 PC vs 24 x $80 payments... its not hard

[low sorrel]

i killed my schools pi by mixing up the breadboard cables

[topaz veldt]

jorj jorj

[topaz veldt]

Yep people don't realize GPIO is raw

[green marsh]

ordered myself this btw for like 36 euros on amazon.de https://eu.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-nexode-x-100w-mini-gan-charger

a lot smaller than the Apple charger

[topaz veldt]

yeah i have bunches of those, but from anker

[wise bear]

yeah its on sale in the states too, thought about grabbing a pair of em

[green marsh]

this is a 140W version there, 100W is even smaller

[low sorrel]

the 65w one with the screen is TINY

[green marsh]

100W is about the same size

[frank zealot]

yes and no:

Rent to not-own is a pretty common practice in the business world. Renting Servers to not own them is super normal
It's much less common in the consumer side. (Leasing Cars is about the only thing I can think of where you pay monthly and never own it as a consumer.)

[whole coral]

Looks nice

[topaz veldt]

I refuse your silly argument. $80/mo for 24 months and return the PC is not rocket science. You condemned the seller there. This latest instance you condemned the renter. Its ok, but its obvious and simple.

[low sorrel]

i was talking about this one

i picked it up for 20 bucks on a few months ago

[green marsh]

even if i use it only for 100W, it is still worth it because of size, and i can still use it to charge other stuff, just slowly if i use the mac at same time

160W version is even crazier, but meh, didn't want to pay double

[low sorrel]

Do it no balls

[green marsh]

the 100W model in hand is the crazy part

65W

[green marsh]

160W is much taller

[low sorrel]

Holy shit that's dirt cheap in canada

47 euros

[green marsh]

Nexode X is what i bought

Pro = aluminum, X = plastic housing

[sharp heart]

smol

[green marsh]

but also X should be "newer"

but the source for the metal casing might be a lie 😄

It is plastic that looks like aluminum.

[green marsh]

https://www.amazon.ca/UGREEN-Charger-Compact-Foldable-MacBook/dp/B0CMQL9D5Q/

few CAD more

[pallid marsh]

58 tabs...

[green marsh]

i have too much too, can't be bothered to close old tabs on phone

[pallid marsh]

I close my tabs

[low sorrel]

Actually less there's a coupon

69.99 (nice)

[whole coral]

11K! Impressive

[low sorrel]

Hey ugreen I think this might a bit overkill

[whole coral]

This is an official 11K score from a retail iPhone 17 Pro Max unit

[green marsh]

you don't want one charger to power your 100W macbook, your 70W display etc ?

[low sorrel]

Ok how are using the other 330w

[vale cosmos]

4 120W ports? then a 20w usb a?

[green marsh]

second computer

[low sorrel]

Still 160w left including another display

[vale cosmos]

egpu/laptop with dgpu?!

[green marsh]

LOL, kinda true tho

[merry stirrup]

that is a price

[pure garnet]

if you meant 8.0 dollars i’m interested

[wraith steeple]

[whole coral]

Ok so this seems to be outperforming snapdragon 8 Elite for CPU performance

[pallid marsh]

They sell a add on mag safe battery that makes it cost as much as the iPhone 17 pro and the same thickness

You just get less cameras and gpu over the now same priced iPhone 17 pro

So bully anyone you see with the mag safe iPhone air

[low sorrel]

(steals the battery)

How is my phone almost dead I only downloaded like 10gb of software updates and updated 10 times

[sharp heart]

something something take away things, say it's a feature and then sell the solution to the thing you took away

[topaz veldt]

now I just need meh fittings

[frank zealot]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/hyte-warns-thicc-q80-trio-customers-to-uninstall-aio-cooler-immediately-company-says-it-has-identified-coolant-leakage-issue-caused-by-fragile-internal-component

wow, that's not a good sign for a cooler

[merry stirrup]

"uninstall immediately" wow

[topaz veldt]

yeah because its fucking ass, also

lol

[low sorrel]

At least they are recalling it

[green marsh]

well it leaks. You don't want a leaky AIO

[low sorrel]

Also I don't think I've every seen that for a cooler

Remove immediately

[merry stirrup]

i dont think ive seen a company recall every single one of their aios

[sharp heart]

can they not mention what the actual faulty part is?

[merry stirrup]

usually only batches or whatever

[low sorrel]

I mean they are recalling batches

Just all the batches

[merry stirrup]

lol

that tells me that nobody messed up but hyte

[green marsh]

technically Arctic recalled the liquid freezer 2 revision 4 i think? but they also allowed you to self-top-up the coolant

[merry stirrup]

oh i see

[green marsh]

https://www.arctic.de/en/lf-service-kit

In certain units, the gaskets were not sufficiently vulcanized causing a chemical reaction to occur between the copper cold plate and the gasket. This reaction may lead to sulfur residue and copper plate deposits. If this has happened, it can lead to a reduction in cooling performance and potential loss of cooling liquid.

[merry stirrup]

ah

[low sorrel]

Wait is that why my LF2 died?

[merry stirrup]

perhaps

[green marsh]

no idea how yours died. This was causing a chemical reaction due the gasket

and few other products should have been recalled for similar gunk buildup reason (Enermax TR4 coolers for example)

[frank zealot]

it's internal to the device, so it may not be a usefully named part, and they do state it's not user servicable

[green marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHdEqWpexH0

[low sorrel]

The cooler pump started having bubbles and then eventually it died

[merry stirrup]

bubbles does sound like leak or liquid loss

[low sorrel]

I mean it could be sublimation I think?

[merry stirrup]

something like that

where the lqiuid goes thru the tubes naturally yeah

[low sorrel]

What's it called when water over time evaporates through tubes

[merry stirrup]

i think it might be permeation

yes

[low sorrel]

What's sublimation