tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

ASRock is more confusing to be honest - and they rando change the names of shit

[shell void]

i can get used to any uefi skin after a couple days

[pure garnet]

this was ~6 years ago where i knew about as much about computers as the tiktok comment section

blower vega owner 💪

[topaz veldt]

the prob isn't the appearance the prob is you search and the term is labeled different

[pure garnet]

i still dunno what gdm is called in the asus bios

[shell void]

i ran into that problem

MSI literally just calls it geardown

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s like udiv or something i think

on the x870 it’s plain as day

[topaz veldt]

ADDR_CMD_MODE

[pure garnet]

i just need to find the setting that makes sleep operational

[shell void]

the chad "Geardown Mode" versus the loser "ADDR_CMD_MODE"

[topaz veldt]

The fun part is it actually works on ASUS

[shell void]

works here too

it didnt work on my b650e-e lmao

[merry stirrup]

i think you set it to BUF which is also wild and cryptic

i often think of that mac quote

[topaz veldt]

Dunno I am the only one actually running strong Gear 2 'round here

🙂

[shell void]

enjoying that sweet 64GB/s of read bandwidth and 32GB/s of write bandwidth per ccd on your 8000cl32 config

mogged by 6400 on intel

[merry stirrup]

“Fork in the asus bios would be named ‘4 pronged eating utensil’” - mac

[topaz veldt]

I dunno I am at 106 GB/s read

8000 CL32 sleepers

[merry stirrup]

this is true with tREFI

[pure garnet]

8000 on my 4 dimmer

[topaz veldt]

No time for this 8000 CL38 business

[shell void]

i need my gnr-w cpu and 8800cl36 1.1v mrdimms but lippy is being slow

[pure garnet]

all i gotta do is up the voltages and im there

[topaz veldt]

do et

[pure garnet]

i got headroom i’m still at 1.35

[topaz veldt]

See if you can stabilize 8000 CL32

with big trefi

[pure garnet]

big amd or like

register limit

[topaz veldt]

at least 131071 intel

[pure garnet]

when the ryzen system finishes karhu i’ll get on it

[topaz veldt]

what dimm kit will you do it on

[pure garnet]

https://a.co/d/1ZOyQKX

[topaz veldt]

yeah not happenin lil bro

the 24's don't like tight

8000 CL30/32 is really only stable on H16A

I mean maybe if you had some god bin with like 1.7V

My setup doing 8000 CL32 will not run on any of my 48GB kits

[pure garnet]

i doubt the a die i have on hand is doing 8000c38 at a reasonable voltage

nevermind cl32

[topaz veldt]

well thats the point 😛

I need someone else running gear 2 shit bigly so I can compare

[shell void]

you gotta talk to other apex/ocf arrowlake users

amd cant do cool memory stuff

[topaz veldt]

oh i wont go for 8000 CL32 on Intel

[pure garnet]

or that random guy with the tomahawk

[topaz veldt]

thats on my AMDrizzle

My intel is running 8800 CL36

Hoping I can stabilize 9000 on next CPU

[pure garnet]

wouldn’t be surprised if my 265k also lost the imc lottery

[shell void]

i am just so bored of amd memory tuning because the cores communicate with the controller via telegraph

[pure garnet]

get out the patriot kit

[topaz veldt]

its good for some fps

[shell void]

i wish we could see what ryzen x3d would perform like with the same packaging as intel

even their next packaging tech for zen 6 is still budget cope

[fringe vigil]

[pure garnet]

if nova lake large cache is as good as the x3d i’m set

final fantasy performance and a good memory controller?

[steel stream]

BLLC 🙏

[topaz veldt]

adds 20 more ns

[steel stream]

nah bro it's gonna be a perfect CPU don't worry (I will hype NVL till it comes out then switch to Zen6)

[shell void]

who do you think you are, me?

[topaz veldt]

there is only room for one michael

[pure garnet]

michael strat

[steel stream]

I'm just talking to the man in the (LG C4 perfect gloss) mirror

[pure garnet]

actually michael just got his idea from pat gelsinger

hype up 14a then ship arrowlake on n3b

[shell void]

going from 8p16e intel monolithic to 8p16e tsmc lego wasnt interesting to me

i wanted to try amd again since my last go was ryzen 1000

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-girl-bye-pish-posh-meh-please-gif-11083180992484586633

[shell void]

tsmc n6 soc & intel 22ffl base tile -> intel 18a soc & intel 3 base tile 🤞

hopefully we can get latency lower

[steel stream]

nah I don't blame you at all

valid af move

[topaz veldt]

the gods have taken care of michael with like 8 bad mobos or something

[shell void]

two bad mobos that were both asus 🔥

[topaz veldt]

and a bad nvme

[pure garnet]

the lego chip is nice outside of my niche game that relies on the cache entirely

[steel stream]

and a bad monitor

[topaz veldt]

and a car fire

[shell void]

ive been quite unlucky with used parts

my open box 7900xtx was artifacting on the desktop and i returned it next day

[pure garnet]

the amazon warehouse box of doom

[topaz veldt]

its not luck, you've been taken care of by the gods

[shell void]

used x99-a-ii: unreliable
open box b650e-e: destructive
open box 7900xtx: artifacting
used 990 pro 4tb: exploded

no more used hardware unless it's old and niche

[topaz veldt]

and dude hasn't even done 8000 CL32 - this sounds like a serious skill issue

[pure garnet]

maybe that’s why my tomahawk sucks

did i send you the listing

[topaz veldt]

its all because you hyped ARL

[pure garnet]

michael cursed my new in box ebay listing with his vibes

[shell void]

hey now i wouldnt even call it hype, i told you all exactly how it would perform outside of games to a frickin T

i just didnt foresee it chugging in games without a lot of handholding

[topaz veldt]

You told us where to have the party and then didn't show up

[floral spear]

I just got blue light glasses, idk if it's an inside joke

[steel stream]

it is

[topaz veldt]

I am tired

[floral spear]

Hi tired I'm dad

[fringe vigil]

who is you handlebars you new

[shell void]

huh

[topaz veldt]

what

[fringe vigil]

hes your daddy

[shell void]

i rest my case

senor snail

47K when?

[topaz veldt]

I had like 46,600 the other day outside of benchmate

[shell void]

[topaz veldt]

then i got annoyed with it and unpluged it and haven't touched it since

[shell void]

xd

you arent having fun being a beta tester?

[topaz veldt]

its more that the shit doesn't make sense

[shell void]

that 1.2v bug is so strange

something like that would annoy me

[topaz veldt]

mine doens't have the bug

[shell void]

oh i thought you said it did

[topaz veldt]

nah - i shared that there is a bug, but i set e core volts to 1.25 and no whea

[shell void]

glorious

time to crank 1.35v to try to get 5.2

[topaz veldt]

that'dbe great if it were stable at 5.0

[shell void]

xd

[topaz veldt]

there's a fucked up relationship between d2d/ngu/cores and ram on ARL

[shell void]

yeah idk you might need like 1.3v for 5.0 on one of your Ecore clusters which is annoying

[topaz veldt]

people say you have to slow down ngu/d2d if ram is over X

its stupid

[shell void]

i havent heard that

[topaz veldt]

I can run 50.33 e core if I leave RAM at 6400

[shell void]

my only other friend with a full tuned arrowlake setup is running this

[topaz veldt]

yeah they have some freak CPU

I can't even run 9000 CL42

[shell void]

idk maybe theyre running like 1.55vccsa xd

[topaz veldt]

i have tried 1.5 sa

[shell void]

[fringe vigil]

snail fancies her

[topaz veldt]

she won't let me sleep

[hoary hatch]

I wonder how close 265k can get on clocks

[fringe vigil]

yh i can tell

[floral spear]

Ever tried Japanese BBQ?

[topaz veldt]

probably?

[fringe vigil]

he wants to take you out to one

[floral spear]

How is it? Just out of curiosity

[topaz veldt]

well i woudl imagine japanese bbq is a lot like korean bbq

especially since korean bbq utilizes wagyu, etc.

[fringe vigil]

why you asking him

[shell void]

you must investigate

[heavy mantle]

close

not quite similar as you would think but close

[pure garnet]

my cpu gonna explode if i give it +50mhz

[oak vector]

Damn 285k mc goes hard

[willow ruin]

Is an official Steam Link brand new still viable for anything? I recall they actually were, but I'm not sure - someone local selling one brand new for $20

[edgy laurel]

they were $5 brand new in 2017

[thick frost]

i have a steam link and steam controller and all it does is wirelessly take the feed from ur steam on ur running pc and put it to the steam link

[edgy laurel]

if you want a box to plug into a TV and stream 1080p games

but you can just use the Steamlink app on many smart TV's and streaming boxes

and get the same experience

[thick frost]

except probably better lol

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/kpCC6_3UT1g

[willow ruin]

My experience with attempting that back in the day with Moonlight and all that, was that the hardware was vastly superior to a smart TV with the app, but it's been years.

[edgy laurel]

Yeah hell, a modern Roku or Google TV streamer box is far more powerful

plus Wifi6/6e, 4K streaming..

[willow ruin]

Roku didn't / doesn't support Steamlink

That was my original attempt back in the day

[edgy laurel]

can you install Moonlight?

[willow ruin]

No idea, I haven't touched this in a minute, was just scrolling market plae and got excited haha

[edgy laurel]

I wouldn't be

[willow ruin]

Don't even need it, just thought they liquidated all the hardware years ago and they were hard to come by

Despite the selloff, they were once super sought after for game streaming outside of an Nvidia shield.

[edgy laurel]

I've got one collecting dust

played Witcher 3 for the first time all the way through on my couch using it

over wifi..

[willow ruin]

My last apartment had one proper PC, and no solid host for anything on the other end.

So no gaming in the bedroom, but no longer a problem, and that hardware has aged, so hell with it.

[edgy laurel]

i remember playing with Moonlight on a really old Chromecast

one of the first or second gen "pucks"

it wasn't great

wonder if the current gen 4K capable Google TV Streamer is any better (they dropped the Chromecast name)

[wise bear]

Dude I'm gonna be grump if ups fucks me on next-day air & makes it the end of the week

[topaz veldt]

I have one of those original steam gaming streaming things

[wise bear]

what, the littple puck you plug into your pc and it just sits on lan?

[edgy laurel]

plug into tv

giving them away 7-8 years ago

[wise bear]

tv thats right

[vagrant robin]

how do i know if i have bottleneck?

[turbid locust]

Scrapyard wars finale kinda pissing me off

Haven’t finished yet but so I’m holding my opinion for a sec lol

[edgy laurel]

sigh

[vagrant robin]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

alright... what hardware

grumbe grumble.. this question...

[vagrant robin]

5700g and rx 6750XT

24gb 3600mhz ddr4

[edgy laurel]

1080p, i'm assuming

[vagrant robin]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

24GB?

[vagrant robin]

my dad built it and gave it to me

[vagrant robin]

yeah, he ordered 2x8gb but he got one 8 and one 16

[edgy laurel]

Is your GPU at 90-100% usage and max clockspeeds in games?

[vagrant robin]

no

i think the issue is with the cpu cus i can play forza at 100 fps with extreme graphics

but fortnite runs 160 in game, with performance mode all low

[edgy laurel]

Its going to vary greatly from game to game with hardware like that

can simply use PresentMon to check

[vagrant robin]

how do i get it

[thick frost]

Spot the difference between these 2 hard drives

It may take a second. The differences are very small

[edgy laurel]

by Googling it and downloading it

[turbid locust]

ok the team I thought should win, won, but it shouldn’t have been that close

[edgy laurel]

how we find and acquire any software these days

most useful tool for beginners getting into PC's.

[vagrant robin]

ok

[turbid locust]

like how are you gonna call one teams gaming experience “unplayable” and simultaneously give it like 6’s and 7’s across the board lmfao

[edgy laurel]

while playing, is the GPU Busy line lagging below the frametime line while playing? Ideally they'd be overlapping

[vagrant robin]

wdym, u talkin bout presentmon?

[edgy laurel]

yes

[vagrant robin]

still downloading

[edgy laurel]

getting it is one thing, knowing how to use it is another

[vagrant robin]

ok i opened, what now

[edgy laurel]

Are you able to read thigns, or do you need a step by step. I'm watching something at the moment so.. yeah

If you can read, https://www.xda-developers.com/5-reasons-intel-presentmon-is-the-best-tool-for-checking-exactly-what-your-gaming-pcs-bottleneck-is/

[vagrant robin]

ok

[vagrant robin]

all good bro

[young void]

Chungussss

[edgy laurel]

its a performance monitor. runs in an overlay on top of the game, or a window you can put on another monitor if you have one (if you configure it that way). should only be observed while IN the game, not alt-tabbed out of it

[vagrant robin]

thanks man

[edgy laurel]

the GPU Busy/Frametime graph is key

article gives CLEAR examples of un-ideal CPU limited scenarios, and ideal GPU limited scenarios

effectively the GPU shouldn't be waiting on the CPU to processes information, or frames

if it is, its "bottlenecked" by the CPU and not giving you its full performance

very simple article

and illustrates the point perfectly

[edgy laurel]

aww shit, starting it now

[pure garnet]

yeah the ||game streaming not working at all entirely should've dropped them to a 1 or something||

that's the gamble

[merry stirrup]

its the cpu, half cache over 5600/5700x

and ram, hybrid channel sucks

[edgy laurel]

wrong graph

Frame Time and GPU Busy

[vagrant robin]

aah mb

[edgy laurel]

you read the article, right?

[vagrant robin]

yeah

the 5th point, it mentions cod bo6

bro they're not the same level

[edgy laurel]

ya, thats what was expected

[vagrant robin]

me too

[edgy laurel]

GPU is sitting around waiting for something to do

[vagrant robin]

after i read the article

[edgy laurel]

ideally those two lines would be following eachother

[vagrant robin]

so i should change the cpu to a cpu that matches the gpu?

[edgy laurel]

but in your case GPU Busy is far below

[vagrant robin]

yeah same ms

[edgy laurel]

so the GPU is waiting on something, in most cases the CPU

a faster GPU would likely help, even like a 5600

[vagrant robin]

so 5600 is faster than a 5700g

[merry stirrup]

yes

[vagrant robin]

thats why im getting bottleneck

[arctic bronze]

yeah, but 5700g has its uses in other applications

I use a 5700g in my NAS for the 2 extra cores, 4 more threads and the igpu

[vagrant robin]

i want a cpu to get like 200 stables on fortnite

[arctic bronze]

whats ur gpu

[vagrant robin]

i mean i already got the rx 6750xt and with a 5700x3d i can get 400 in game but its kinda expensive

[edgy laurel]

can't say for 100% certainty without sitting in front of the system for myself and evaluating it but there is a very good chance that CPU is holding you back

5700x3D prices are trash right now

[arctic bronze]

ur better off enabling PBO

[edgy laurel]

if you can even buy it anymore

[arctic bronze]

what cooler are you running

[edgy laurel]

PCPP has zero listings in the US

[arctic bronze]

@vagrant robin

[arctic bronze]

thats crazy

[vagrant robin]

stock

:((((

[edgy laurel]

about time, keep people from using it as an option to stick with AM4

[vagrant robin]

actually im using a jonsbo cr-1200

but i think its the same right?

[arctic bronze]

can you afford this? https://a.co/d/9Udszdj

[vagrant robin]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/RIX1KWIfmi8

[arctic bronze]

I mean, if it was cheaper, its a valid thing to go to for those not wanting a full system upgrade as its an x3d chip

[vagrant robin]

[arctic bronze]

@vagrant robin this is the amd stock cooler

[vagrant robin]

yeah i know

so the amd stock is better than the jonsbo?

[arctic bronze]

most likely not

amd stock cooler is doodoo

[vagrant robin]

ah ok

so what cpu should i get

i was thinking 5600x

[edgy laurel]

or a 5600

[arctic bronze]

yeah you can, but ur better off with a platform upgrade if you can afford it tbh

[vagrant robin]

to am5?

[arctic bronze]

yeah

[vagrant robin]

its kinda expensive am5 cpu, i was thinking about it but i just need a cpu that runs fortnite like 250 stables fps in game

[frank zealot]

What the fuck warship

[arctic bronze]

well to go am5, you need a new cpu, motherboard and ram

you cant use ur current stuff

[vagrant robin]

yeah i just bought the pc like 6 months ago

i was looking for something budget but good

[arctic bronze]

how much did you pay

[vagrant robin]

900 usd

[arctic bronze]

you got scammed

:(

[vagrant robin]

why

[arctic bronze]

900 is way too much for a 5700g build

[vagrant robin]

but what else is the scam

[arctic bronze]

the pc, you paid too much for it

[vagrant robin]

i have a b550m ds3h ac

[arctic bronze]

what gpu did it come with

[vagrant robin]

my dad bought it like a month later

[arctic bronze]

yeah, 900 for no gpu, they basically robbed you

[vagrant robin]

no

900 with gpu

[arctic bronze]

what did you pay for the pc

[edgy laurel]

you know when this thing started, i thouht Lukes setup was gonna be great

but it was overly complicated

[vagrant robin]

That 900 aprox

It was 500 with no gpu

[arctic bronze]

ok 500 is much better lol

[vagrant robin]

Yeahh lmao

So for 250 ingame a 5600x would work?

Or do i get a 5700x or a 5800x

[arctic bronze]

well, ur gpu will affect that mainly

[vagrant robin]

Wdym

This is my build

[arctic bronze]

looks good

[frank zealot]

@edgy laurel sometimes marketplace gear is rough

And I get the argument that 3.1 > 5.1 in a relatively small room

Unless you are using small speakers like pc surround

[wise bear]

😭

I paid $40 for next-day air

THANKS NEWEGG

[turbid locust]

Almost as bad as floppa paying $100 for next day just for it to take 4 days

[wise bear]

[hoary hatch]

This is why I don't pay for expedited shipping, it's never worth it

[turbid locust]

I do, just selectively

If I pay extra on Amazon, Amazon is gonna have that shit on my doorstep

If I pay extra on Newegg… 🤷‍♂️

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[vocal plume]

I cant tell if your camera is just grainy as hell or if your room has a cloud trapped in it.....

[hoary hatch]

Fr if I ordered a 5090 it would take a week to arrive and then I'd probably put off installing it in my PC for another week

[vagrant robin]

No bro I have a Samsung a53

That’s why is grainy lol

[hoary hatch]

My OLED monitor was sitting downstairs for days before I brought it upstairs and unboxed it

[vocal plume]

Nah i cant do that XD

As soon as it arrives it gets put to use

[hoary hatch]

Setting up new tech is usually a weekend activity

[turbid locust]

lmao no

[random flame]

Damn... I found you elsewhere in a guy I've known a while.

[turbid locust]

I drove 2 hours one way for my 5090 and had it installed the same night

[hoary hatch]

I have basically unlimited patience

[slim solstice]

Says the one who blocked me for pinging him

[wise bear]

[pure garnet]

yeah the $2.99 on amazon is basically guaranteed

[turbid locust]

Helps that I live in the same city as a massive fulfillment center lol

I can basically overnight anything currently in stock at that center

[pure garnet]

yeah i have one too now

i got 7800 stable on my x3d so if sleep works every day this week i’ll probably play board switcharoo again

[brisk jolt]

I took a 1.5 hr trip to and back and installed my 5090 in like 5 mins lol

so basically took me 2 hrs

[turbid locust]

I drove directly from work too lmao

I didn’t end up getting home with it till like 10-11pm

[pure garnet]

i haven’t ever bought a gpu from a retail store in person before

i did drive an hour each way for my switch 2 though

[turbid locust]

I think that was my first time doing that tbh

[pure garnet]

the switch 2 purchase was fueled out of awful decisions

[turbid locust]

My 5090 was only my 2nd new gpu ever

[pure garnet]

i got it from walmart, slept like 2h that night , walmart cancelled, so i went and camped a gamestop before they opened

they had 4 units in the store and me and some other guy bought 2 at open

[turbid locust]

I don’t think I’d willingly pay for a Nintendo console

[brisk jolt]

same

[turbid locust]

Nintendo IP’s are just… not good enough to justify their scumbaggary

[brisk jolt]

selling last 2 gens of hardware for next gen’s prices

[pure garnet]

i like the games and i’ll get ~8 years out of it so

price didn’t offend me

[random flame]

I would only do it for their old consoles... Out of a yard sale or something.

[turbid locust]

I like Pokemon but I’m not paying that much

[pure garnet]

i have a ps5 i use less than my switch 2 as well

[turbid locust]

And the last handful of Pokemon games have ran like shit/buggy af

[pure garnet]

i usually get used stuff but i’m gonna stay away from ebay motherboards for awhile

my tomahawk was “new” but still has been disappointing

[turbid locust]

For me to buy something new it either has to be an insane deal or something kinda niche I can’t really search for

Like the odds of me finding someone selling the exact bin of ram I want lol

[pure garnet]

i usually go new when my used thing dies prematurely

like when my 3080 died i bought the 4070 new

[turbid locust]

I’ve never had anything die on me thankfully

[arctic bronze]

why a 4070? no performance uplift?

[arctic bronze]

iv had ram die, its so bs

[pure garnet]

because my options were the 4070 for $599 or the 7900xt for $750

[turbid locust]

between a working PC and not, 4070.

[arctic bronze]

i mean fair

[pure garnet]

and a radeon for $750 isn’t something i could stomach

[arctic bronze]

that also fair, I wasnt judging, just asking lol

[turbid locust]

After I paid $800 for my XTX I went “I can’t imagine paying over $1000 for a gpu, that’s probably my limit. People paying for 4090’s are nuts.”…

[pure garnet]

the only reason i’m still not on the 4070 is bc mike gave me a deal, i have no use for my faster card really

[turbid locust]

and here we are

[brisk jolt]

we now have like 3 5070Ti in TC2 and like, 5 5090s here

[arctic bronze]

lol

[pure garnet]

5 5090s on one guy

[brisk jolt]

in terms of users

[pure garnet]

i think a 5090 would kinda impair my pc experience at the moment

[turbid locust]

Only reason Guilty isn’t on a 5090 yet is cause the 5090 TUF went OOS when it dropped to $1999 lol

[pure garnet]

big old die i’d imagine can’t scale well at minimal use

i run my 5070ti <50% util in games typically

[turbid locust]

Dude I have a 5090 for a global 138fps cap lmao

[brisk jolt]

in terms of total 5090s here snail is basically half of them

[pure garnet]

i play ff at a capped 120

[brisk jolt]

stick some iron in ur mouth and get a 4k240

[pure garnet]

but i have a baby sized room so im concerned about heat output

[turbid locust]

The only game I run an unlimited framerate on anymore is CS2

[turbid locust]

As soon as there’s a 42” OLED TV that can do 4K240 you got it

[pure garnet]

last time i played cs i got called a bunch of nono words

[arctic bronze]

my dorm has my main pc, my homelab, my ai server and a mini pc in it XD

[turbid locust]

Standard CS players lmao

Not justifying it, but yeah…

[pure garnet]

yes but are those all at full tilt

i think a 600w card in a 10x10 room when i can’t run my ac is gonna be miserable

[arctic bronze]

they are goin for a while

plus 24/7 opperation

[pure garnet]

it already hits 78f in here

[brisk jolt]

ok this fuckass hdmi cable is ass

[arctic bronze]

spread accross the systems, they have a 4080, 3090, 3060ti and a 3060

[pure garnet]

so like a combined 800w if they’re all at full tilt

but ai isn’t maxing the core out unless it’s completely changed

[brisk jolt]

i can shove a 5090 9070xt and b580 in my tiny ass room in this stupidly humid country

sauna

[pure garnet]

yeah i just don’t think it’s worth the 2k for me

like i’d love the performance in theory but i also barely play games

room sucks/im moving/i wont use it

[turbid locust]

I think with upcoming games I’ll be even more happy with mine

I was happy at $2449, but extra happy at $1999

[brisk jolt]

im excited for that 007 game xd

[pure garnet]

in new place we will have a basement just for gaming spots so i can go 6090 or whatever if i feel like it

[turbid locust]

Driving back to Microcenter 3 days after buying my 5090 to get a better model for cheaper was kinda funny

Got a $485 refund and borderlands 4

[arctic bronze]

more like 1088watts

[pure grail]

dropped another 2% this month maybe i should start looking for a new one

[arctic bronze]

yeaahh

[frosty ore]

Guys for a budget 200$ Gpu what should I look for?

[frank cypress]

what's ur options

[frosty ore]

Something like 200$

[frank cypress]

bruh

[frosty ore]

I mean a GPU would suffice since I don’t even got nun

[frank cypress]

something that is $200 for me might not be $200 for you

[frosty ore]

oh well

Shit

[frank cypress]

go look what is $200 and present some

thats why I asked

[proud quest]

Bluetooth is set as hidden on my windows 11 how do I unhide it

[hot rivet]

i was offered a MSI GE66 RAIDER 12 UGS (I7-12th gen + rtx3070TI) used in good condition for around 800USD, is this a good deal ?

[livid flame]

Nope

Not unless it’s a 12900k is it even worth considering.. even then I still wouldn’t

You could get a 9060xt 16gb, am5 mobo, 7500f and 32gb of ram for probably the same price or less. And it will be better

Yeah same price

[lethal sigil]

gonna install windows for the first time on my new PC, ive heard that when using just 1 ssd, u should create a partition. my question is how big should the partition be? sry if its dumb its my first time

[frank bear]

No need. Just use the default partition scheme.

[lethal sigil]

what does that mean

no partition?

[frank bear]

As in when windows asks what disk to install to, just choose the SSD, and then hit finish or install. No need for custom partitioning.

[lethal sigil]

ok got it

[stable turret]

After struggling quite a bit with brand new 9070XT 16GB steel legend for $600 and used 4070ti super for $650 in my local area (mainland China) I went nvidia

did i make the correct decision?

i can still return it at this point

[brisk jolt]

yes u did make the correct

[pulsar carbon]

Haven't posted here before, just lurking here and there. Now I've got a quick question to the LTSC people in here: As support for win 10 goes bye bye I wanted to go towards either Win 10 IoT LTSC or Win 11 IoT LTSC. I've been using Win 11 at work and found it pretty underwhelming. Which one of these two should I pick for my rig at home (I do a moderate amount of gaming, 3D CAD design, and your typical productivity stuff)

[shell void]

you should get used to w11 if you’re not going to switch to linux

rtx 5000 is the last nvidia generation that will work in windows 10

drivers released after october 2026 will be windows 11 only

[pulsar carbon]

due to Fusion 360 being pretty baked into my workflow I kinda have to stay on windows for now, as much as I'd like to go to team linux. (I hate switching around operating systems)

[shell void]

you could keep using windows 10 for another year or two without much issue, but it’d be like snoozing your morning alarm

[pulsar carbon]

I mean LTSC does get security updates till like 2032 or sth

[shell void]

yes but like i said you get no more nvidia driver updates after 2026

[vocal plume]

vm

[shell void]

games and other software will start to demand that you’re on a newer version of windows

you can stay on w10 until that happens or you can just rip off the bandaid now

[pulsar carbon]

currently on AMD and not planning to go Nvidia if they keep doing their whole AI bs in the future. I guess win 11 iot ltsc has longer support

[shell void]

of course there is no option to choose “they have improved over time”

☠️

bless my favorite amd shill channel

[livid flame]

I mean they couldn’t get worse than February

[edgy laurel]

considerably better

[vagrant cargo]

so im curious i need to stop noise getting in and out of my room but have a room for rent im in, i know you can get clip on panels and sound stuff for desks, any tech that could help? i wanna get into streaming amongst other stuff but i can hear noise from outside my window and from other people i live in even the next door neighbours in their house

[shell void]

yeah january to around may was absolutely awful

they’re massively improved since then

but of course tom didn’t list that option because it doesn’t fit his narrative

[brisk jolt]

biased af poll

1 and 2 is the same fucking thing

[vocal plume]

Acoustic paneling and super thick curtains for your window

[shell void]

🗣️

[edgy laurel]

You don't, not in a rental.

[shell void]

all he had to do was:
1: they’ve gotten worse
2. they’ve gotten better
3. i haven’t noticed a change
4. i don’t have a nvidia gpu

[edgy laurel]

Acoustic paneling doesn't prevent sound from escaping at all, simply cuts down on reflections from within the room.

[devout ridge]

Depending on the type of paneling, it will prevent some sound escape

[brisk jolt]

“RDNA 5 is gonna be a game changer”

RDNA5% marketshare

[shell void]

radeon went from 8% to 6% in one quarter which is so rough

i don’t want radeon to disappear, but deception and shilling isn’t the answer

[brisk jolt]

watch him glaze rdna5 just for it to get the zen +5% curse

rdna +5%

AMD time and time again have shown that they themselves are capable of missing every opportuntiy

[shell void]

they just have too much pride to sell products with a low profit margin in order to steal marketshare

so radeon will continue living in the dumps in terms of sales unless they offer something that’s genuinely better than geforce

instead of “this is a good enough alternative for a little less”

[brisk jolt]

9070xt would be a great product for US consumers if it was actually at $600 and not fucking around at 5070Ti prices

AMD has hidden talent- They themselves are keeping it hidden

[green marsh]

well damn. Last week friday someone stole my dad's bag with his phone. On saturday i ordered a identical replacement phone. Yesterday i set it up for dad. Today dad calls me that police found the phone. Next level surprised, i guess i will abuse the 14 day return window and will return the phone after i clean it to defaults (obviously only after dad confirms the stolen phone works fine)

[livid flame]

I have no real affinity to actual Nvidia or AMD products. I just go price/performance when I buy. Thats meant I’ve only ever owned 1 Intel cpu, a 4770k. And I swing from Nvidia to AMD gpu. Last Nvidia being a 1060 6gb.

I object to overpaying in this day and age for Nvidia. Just depends when I buy tbh for what I will get

[vocal plume]

Ive learned a very valuable lesson over the years. Never buy new, and always buy a generation behind

[livid flame]

If I bought today instead of 2 years ago, I’d probably end up going for a 5070 or 5070ti at a push tbh. Still amd cpu for my price point to performance

When I bought 2 years ago, I got a 7800x3d and 7800xt. Sure I knew I was over killing on the cpu. Want this rig to be the kids rig afterwards that can be upgraded for a further 5 or so years. The 7800xt was just good price to performance tbh.

People with a strong affinity for the name and not a product are just weird

[vocal plume]

Im still rocking a 5700x, and the cpu before that was a r5 3600

[edgy laurel]

except, what if you want new and fast

How do you get 5090 performance used and last generation

[vocal plume]

I mean, sure, but when you can get like 90% or more performance for a good chunk of change less, it makes sense to save a bit of money

[vocal plume]

Used 4090

[edgy laurel]

So, you can't

[vocal plume]

Still gonna be expensive, but not as costly as 5090

[livid flame]

The more you buy the more you save

[edgy laurel]

and not nearly as fast

[shell void]

5090 is 40-100% faster than a 4090 depending on the game/workload so like spark said that’s not possible

and used 4000 series pricing is pretty bad as a whole

[vocal plume]

I dont see the appeal of spending over 1000usd for a gpu

[livid flame]

Might have to one day

[vocal plume]

Yea I'll just rob a store at that point lol

[shell void]

i also buy the best product at the time regardless of brand which is why i flip between intel and amd cpus

[livid flame]

I had a toss up between buy a 7800xt or 7900xtx and I said yknow what. I’m not spending £900 I will spend £450 instead.

[shell void]

i’ve only given radeon one try because they usually don’t have a viable offering :(

[livid flame]

I could have got something in between but the fact I didn’t, means I don’t need it

And in reality I play osrs 90% of the time. I could just use my fkn igpu 😂

[vocal plume]

I mean i got my 3080ti used a few years ago for 500usd

[livid flame]

I was considering doing that used

[vocal plume]

It came basically brand new in box without a speck of dust on it too

[livid flame]

I went with the 16gb vram. Like I say I wanted a pc that will last for my kids longer than I’d normally expect to have a pc for

It was a gamble tbh

Will let you know in 7.5 years if it paid off

[vocal plume]

I game at 1080p so vram isnt really a concern for me anyway

[livid flame]

I switched back to 1080p from 1440p tbh

Just not good for esports and makes osrs less straining on my eyes

Once I get another pc and this is solely for the kids I will give them a 1440p monitor tbh

[shell void]

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[shell void]

higher resolution is always better for every application assuming the other aspects of the display are the same or better

[vocal plume]

I prefer a higher refresh rate especially at 24inches.

[livid flame]

Well it’s not better for fps gaming using low dpi or for osrs fixed mode

[vocal plume]

1080p looks amazing

[livid flame]

Like hats off to those playing osrs fixed on 4k. Thats some unreal eyes they got

Shorter a click speed but visually it’s so aggressive how small it is

[vocal plume]

aggressive how small it is

[shell void]

it is better for fps games assuming the refresh rate and other aspects are the same

[brisk jolt]

consistent 30% diff everywhere, and in video editing the better dual encoders smoke the 4090

[vocal plume]

Still over 1.5k for a new gpu

I could buy a used car for that much

[brisk jolt]

and the 4090 sellers are trying to still get their cards for msrp

[livid flame]

Thanks to 24gb and at home AI

[vocal plume]

3090 is the play if you want vram

[brisk jolt]

objectively the 5090 has 5% better price:performance if you can get one for 2k not that im telling u to

ah yes 2090

[vocal plume]

Shhhhhhhh

[livid flame]

3090 is. But supply won’t last forever

People won’t let them go, next best alternative? 4090

[brisk jolt]

cards also wont work forever and atp its like 5 years+

[livid flame]

Honestly if I had 1.5k to spend on a gpu, I’d buy a used 4090

[brisk jolt]

this tbh

[shell void]

it would be really hard for me to justify buying a 4090 for gaming because the 5070Ti and 5080 are half the price or less, and they’re not that much slower

[livid flame]

It’s another grand in the uk for a 5090 or around same price for 5080

[vocal plume]

My 3080ti is still kicking along just fine

[brisk jolt]

either that or a 5080 super tbh

[shell void]

5080 is arguably the better card for gaming because of MFG

especially on 1080/1440 high refresh displays

[livid flame]

I’m taking the financial decision out of it and just going fuck it. This is what I got, what I can get, why not

[vocal plume]

Frame gen....

[livid flame]

Yeah but Michael in esports so I’m not really caring about mfg

[brisk jolt]

5080 most optimal 1440p card behind 5090 (for 4k)

minmaxxed 1440p

[livid flame]

As an all rounder, if I bought a card today. 5070ti at price to performance for sure

[vocal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-patrick-gross-disgust-nasty-gif-17702536

[livid flame]

I use frame gen on some single players when I play tbh.

If I didn’t want to compromise I’d have spent more

[vocal plume]

I refuse to touch frame gen

[edgy laurel]

As a 1080p gamer, this isn't an insult but you really don't have the experience of how these new technologies work on high end hardware in applications where they're beneficial.

[livid flame]

I’d refuse to touch frame gen only in a 5090 at 1080/1440

But that’s because I’d be a snob paying 3k

[vocal plume]

Sure, but I'm saying that if you are literally just gaming, there are a shit ton of options that aren't gonna cost you a kidney

[livid flame]

I’ve used them on higher hardware. I just don’t need it so I don’t buy it myself.

[edgy laurel]

Point was missed. Anyway..

[vocal plume]

Hell I do video editing just fine on a 3080ti

[brisk jolt]

pov 2060 user on their way to complain that UE5 runs terribly (8 yo entry lvl card)

[livid flame]

Like not using frame gen on4k is kind of silly

[vocal plume]

I get your point.

[brisk jolt]

ur expectation and other ppl expectations are completely different

[livid flame]

It’s about what you’re happy with

[shell void]

most definitely

[vocal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[edgy laurel]

Latest AAA titles, max settings, 4k. When thats what you're into, you get to play with various upscaling and frame gen tools and really learn where they work well, and where they don't.

[shell void]

MFG is magical on 240Hz+ displays

[livid flame]

Like pubg at 1440p was great because for distance, I didn’t keep scoping in and out to see enemies. At 1080p, I HAVE to do that. However the better control I have for aim at 1080p with Lower dpi outweighs what I would call the benefit of further detail for the esports scenario

[shell void]

at 120/144Hz only 2x FG is viable so 4090 > 5080 in that case

but on 240Hz+ i’d take a 5080

[vocal plume]

I guess. Ive never seen the point in going that insane when 1440p is all youd ever really need at most on a standard desktop monitor. I could see 4k on a TV or something yea

[livid flame]

See I’ve used 240hz before but not 360hz. Is it actually wildly better? Is it actually game changing like 60 to 120?

[vocal plume]

No

[livid flame]

Because I’ve always called 360hz just a scam to sell mfg

But I’ve never seen if it is actually worth it

[vocal plume]

The only reason youd really want anything over 240hz is for even less latency, but if you turn on mfg then there's literally no point as it just adds latency again

[livid flame]

That would be for esports. Sure. However for single player and visually attractive games. That don’t matter

I assume most people getting 360hz 4k monitors don’t care entirely at all if much about latency

[edgy laurel]

those don't exist.. yet

4K240 for now

[vocal plume]

Let's be real, you arent going to notice any difference over 240hz unless you are in the top 1% of professional esports players

[livid flame]

I see. Can’t wait to see how that comes.

Yeah I can’t see any pro using 4k 360hz at 720p res

Or even 1080p if they’re playing some crap like valorant

[vocal plume]

At this point, monitor manufacturers push it because bigger number = better to the average consumer

[livid flame]

Like why tf is anyone buying a 360hx monitor

Surely that can’t look good in 1080p

[vocal plume]

........?

Idk what resolution has to do with it "looking good" at higher refresh rates

[livid flame]

Well the base resolution of the monitor is 4k

[shell void]

it’s not at all a scam

[livid flame]

You’re then taking that 4k and downing it to 1080p. It never looks as good as native

[shell void]

people that say it’s pointless are either making claims with zero experience, or they have a deficiency of some sort (not derogatory and not bait)

[vocal plume]

OH you mean the ones that can be changed on the fly

[shell void]

50% refresh rate increases are very easily noticeable

[livid flame]

That answers that question then.

[vocal plume]

99% of people aren't going to notice or care

[shell void]

please do not spread misinformation

[livid flame]

Might have to try and get hold of a 360hz monitor some day just see how 1080p scales on that display. As I can only find native 4k for the 360/1080p

[vocal plume]

How is that misinformation?

[shell void]

this stuff has been studied and the information is available for free online

1440p and 144Hz is not the beginning of diminishing returns, not even close

i have tested this personally and know it to be true

[livid flame]

Tbh I don’t notice any difference between 120-180 but do at 240 with the exception of FPS games when I can tell

[vocal plume]

I said 240hz, not 144hz.

[livid flame]

Doesn’t mean everyone’s the same but I’d assume you get to a high point and go “welp, see nothing here”.

[shell void]

eventually yeah but we’re not up there yet

[hoary hatch]

You're not even blocked lmao

I've got a 240hz and 165hz 1440p side by side and the difference is night and day

Although it helps that the 240hz is OLED with incredible response time

[vocal plume]

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/447532-should-i-buy-a-240hz-or-360hz-monitor

[hoary hatch]

240hz 1440p oled

[shell void]

i think a lot of people see that 240Hz eliminates the stuttery look, but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect motion

[hoary hatch]

Oh they weren't asking they were posting a forum post

I mean 360hz is pretty banger but it usually costs more money

[vocal plume]

You mean most people, because unless you have some serious sensitivity the those extra 2ms then it seriously does not matter

[vocal plume]

Im proving a point at this rate

Because apparently its "misinformation"

[shell void]

it’s impossible for you to prove your point because it’s not backed up by any science

you are free to disagree with facts if you want to

i don’t want to clog this channel
with circular arguments

[vocal plume]

It seems you do not want to have a rational discussion and I am not continuing this. Everything I am finding points to it being pointless.

[shell void]

@steel stream it’s iphone day big bro

also caleb is back yay
https://youtu.be/FABNBYGWqwQ?si=FPsT3GoU84jmBB6Y

$65,000 in legal fees later digital trends will finally leave them alone

[scarlet iron]

I went from a 144hz to a 240hz and the difference is very noticeable but the difference might be because of the panel type as I went from an LCD to OLED

[vocal plume]

Nice.

@scarlet iron what monitor did you purchase

[scarlet iron]

Aorus FO27Q2

Got it for the thunderbolt + kvm support on the monitor

[hoary hatch]

It's misinformation

[scarlet iron]

Was a great deal for 440€ for a brand new one

[vocal plume]

Jesus christ no, it isnt. You tell me how much of a difference youd see if you went from 240 to 360hz. Tell me, do those 2 extra ms make a difference if you are anything other than a professional esports player

[scarlet iron]

Well, not really brand new was open box but it was only used for 7 hours lol

[vocal plume]

Thats the best way to do it

[scarlet iron]

Brand new for me due to low usage

[vocal plume]

Got a good deal on a laptop like that a few years ago

[scarlet iron]

Not sure is it thunderbolt might just be type-c + dp or wtv

[scarlet iron]

I got 4 laptops as all of them were a good deal

I'm maybe getting a 5th one soon

[vocal plume]

Lol

Now stack em up inside that empty case and use that as a DIY homelab

[scarlet iron]

Huawei Matebook 14
i5 10210U MX350 130€
Acer Nitro 5 AN517-51
i5 9300H Gtx 1650 120€
Acer Nitro 5
R5 5600h Rtx 3050 Ti 300€
Acer Swift 14 GO OLED
R7 7840U for 330€

I got the Rtx 3050 Ti laptop for my girlfriend as a minor upgrade over her Lenovo gaming laptop which has exact same specs

[shell void]

i’ll take one off your hands

[scarlet iron]

But the Lenovo one constantly overheats even with new paste and the heat dissipation is awful

[shell void]

my macbook doesn’t run wizard101 well

[vocal plume]

Oof

[pure garnet]

i went lcd to lcd 144 240 and it was night and day because my eyes work

[scarlet iron]

She likes watching movies and other stuff in bed but the bottom of the laptop gets so hot that she has to put it down

The Acer Nitro 5 in other hand has excellent heat dissipation even when the laptop is fully stressed out the laptop itself stays very cool

[vocal plume]

Ive used 240hz monitors before for quite some time when I was staying with a friend, I need to get myself one eventually

[scarlet iron]

Yum

Only game I even hit 240fps is fortnite and indie titles

Other games I play either have an FPS lock like Dead by Daylight or I just like to crank the settings to max

[vocal plume]

My old ass msi laptop does the same. Gtx 1060 3g and an i7 6700hq and the bottom of that thing got almost burning hot if you used it on your lap

[scarlet iron]

I benchmarked the laptop and the Acer's bottom was almost cold during a stress test

Lowkey it shocked me

Also another improvement is USB slots on the left side of the laptop for a mouse

For some reason with the lenovo laptop there's only usb slots on the right side

So she has to loop the mouse cord through the laptop for her mouse to be usable

[vocal plume]

Thats evil

[brisk jolt]

No, anything above 240 is diminishing returns tbh

[scarlet iron]

Although one thing I really don't like about the laptop is the trackpad being on the left side for some fuckass reason

And the edges are kinda sharp so it can make playing with the keyboard kinda uncomfortable

[vocal plume]

this is what I have been saying for the past 30 minutes but nooooooooo its "misinformation"

[edgy laurel]

the trackpad is centered with the keyboard

its not offset in relation to what people want when typing for thumb use

[devout ridge]

numpad on a laptop is so silly

[scarlet iron]

Yeah, centered with half of the keyboard

[devout ridge]

centered with the actual keyboard part, not the numpad

[scarlet iron]

They completely missed the numpad there

[edgy laurel]

no, its centered with the whole keyboard

[brisk jolt]

If we're talking about a real jump typically at this area you want around x2 refresh rate increase. If you're going from 165/180 to 360, sure. But at 240 I'd rather make the jump to 480.

[vocal plume]

I'll take that over the tiny ones gaming laptops like to give you

[edgy laurel]

the numpad being there shouldn't affect how the trackpad is centered with the keyboard, and it doesn't

[scarlet iron]

Atleast the trackpad can be disabled with the F row keys

[vocal plume]

Even then, its realistically not going to be that noticeable. Most people are never gonna notice an extra millisecond or 2

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yas-wwe-scream-gif-17625417

[brisk jolt]

if its 240hz any other panel to OLED then sure its justifiable tbh

ahem zowie monitors being overpriced overrated slop

[vocal plume]

OLED is in a league of its own where maybe just maybe there is some wiggle room to be had there

[shell void]

going from 240Hz to 390Hz was a night and day smoothness improvement for me which makes sense given the current understanding of human vision

[brisk jolt]

anything oled is worth it

[vocal plume]

OLEDs are sexy though

[shell void]

it’s a near doubling of refresh rate which is very easy to notice

[brisk jolt]

give 4k400hz oled then we're talking

[shell void]

that would be so awesomesauce

[vocal plume]

CRT

[scarlet iron]

Ay caramba speakers on the bottom

[shell void]

i’m not sure if i’d rather have 5K240 or 4K480, it would take a lot of time for me to decide

[vocal plume]

[shell void]

5K is an obvious upgrade but so is 480Hz

[scarlet iron]

4k to 5k cannot be that massive of an upgrade

[shell void]

unfortunately it is

[hoary hatch]

Retina

[scarlet iron]

Would you even have any game that can even push 4k480 or 5k240 that isn't an indie title or csgo/valorant

[brisk jolt]

Id rather take the doubling of refresh rate unless the 5k is a bigger display being a debating point'

[hoary hatch]

I'd take higher res

[shell void]

yeah

but if someone only plays indie titles or esports then that’s valid

you don’t have to be able to achieve max framerate in all demanding games in order to enjoy a better display

[vocal plume]

Same. I want that eye candy

[steel stream]

I'd take 5K240

[scarlet iron]

Getting a 5k240hz monitor just to play Stardew Valley

[vocal plume]

Terraria

[edgy laurel]

Plex people, change your passwords. https://forums.plex.tv/t/important-notice-of-security-incident/930523

[scarlet iron]

Any sort of pixel game

[shell void]

buddy spark is gonna be waiting eons for 42” 8K

[vocal plume]

RTX Minecraft with 8k texture pack

[edgy laurel]

In no hurry

[vocal plume]

Watch your pc melt itself

[shell void]

is stardew valley like animal crossing, but with gameboy pokemon graphics?

i’ve never watched gameplay of SDV

[scarlet iron]

Stardew Valley is more so inspired by Harvest Moon not Animal Crossing

I do recommend Stardew Valley it's very addictive

I got like 600hrs+ combined on pc and switch

[vocal plume]

SDV is even more addictive with friends

[scarlet iron]

Also has mod support so gameplay can never get boring

There's even a baldurs gate 3 mod which the baldurs gate 3 devs have endorsed it

Adds the baldurs gate 3 locations and characters to the game

[vocal plume]

Wait

[scarlet iron]

It's addictive either way

[vocal plume]

The whole map gets an overhaul?

[scarlet iron]

Yeah there's alot of mods which overhaul the whole map and even expand it vastly

[vocal plume]

Dam

I need to look into modding it then

[scarlet iron]

Stardew Valley mods are comparable to Minecraft mods I'd say

Both have very similar mod/mod scenes

[vocal plume]

create 6.0 in SDV

[scarlet iron]

There's over 25k mods for Stardew Valley on nexusmods

[vocal plume]

Jeebus

[frank zealot]

zero surprise

a game that popular that supports modding will go nuts

I mean, there are thousands and thousands of mods for FFXIV that DOESN'T EVEN SUPPORT MODDING

(technically)

[scarlet iron]

How do u mod then

[scarlet iron]

Ough only 1.9k mods in nexusmods

Do xiv modders use a dif site then

[frank zealot]

most don't use nexus

[frank zealot]

http://xivmodarchive.com/

and there's even more beyond that

[pure garnet]

yeah there’s like 45 mod websites for xiv

and about 300 paid mod shops

[hoary hatch]

Ugh

B770 rumors are back

[spare valve]

whats a good 2k oled monitor 240hz?

[hoary hatch]

Hm
I'm not aware of any 1080p OLEDs

[edgy laurel]

neither am I

[hoary hatch]

Perhaps you should look at miniLED

[pure garnet]

then there’s nintendo

720p oled for maximum screen door

[scarlet iron]

Vibrater

[spare valve]

mb i use 2k for 1440p thats what i meant

[hoary hatch]

Oh
Yeah bro should get a switch oled

[hoary hatch]

Why would you use an incorrect term to describe 1440p?

[hoary hatch]

Wait isn't the switch hardware 720p

[spare valve]

🤓 im sorry

[scarlet iron]

Nerd

[hoary hatch]

2k isn't the same as 1440p

2k literally means 1080p

[spare valve]

if your not goign to answer my question just stop talking

[hoary hatch]

It's like if you asked for a 4k monitor but actually wanted a 1440p ultrawide

[pure garnet]

i want a display with only 2000 total pixels

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[hoary hatch]

Now this is a cash money idea

[vocal plume]

Ya know stuff like that makes people not want to help you

[spare valve]

yeah but what is his point of continiously telling me how i used the wrong term ( he probably even know what i meant by 2k as im not the only person using the term)

[scarlet iron]

Almost everyone uses 2k as 1440p

[wise bear]

my guy hes just informing you

[vocal plume]

erm acktshually its 2.5k for 1440p

[scarlet iron]

Except the 1% of giga nerds ofc

[wise bear]

have you considered that stubbornness isn't a good trait

lol get shipped

[vocal plume]

What in the hell

Thanosed

[vocal plume]

I hope not

[scarlet iron]

Repeated the same message too many times

[wise bear]

people angry for no reason will always be funny to me

[vocal plume]

A n g o r

[wise bear]

"ree im not getting the answer i specifically want from humans" have you tried a search engine

[oak vector]

😔

[vocal plume]

I mean, wrong terminology is wrong terminology.

[oak vector]

“Wow someone didn’t agree to my pre conformed bias when I asked a seemingly objective question wanting an answer but then proceeded to correct them anyway”

Damn mr dot got muted already
what he do 😭

[vocal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/delicatekestis-wahhh-sobbing-emoji-crying-gif-17237760601848548369

[scarlet iron]

He repeated the dot too many times

[wise bear]

automuted lmaoooo

[scarlet iron]

If you repeat the same message 3-4 times you get automuted for a few minutes

[vocal plume]

Warshipped himself in the foot

[heavy mantle]

hello

what should i eat for breakfast?

[scarlet iron]

Balls

[heavy mantle]

i just woke up

[heavy mantle]

yummy

[edgy laurel]

relevant https://linustechtips.com/topic/691408-2k-does-not-mean-2560×1440/

Helpful to understand how we got here.

I didn't mean to reply to you directly, dammit discord

[topaz veldt]

2K is 2560

[edgy laurel]

stop

[topaz veldt]

Imagine trying to explain to people 5120x1440

[vocal plume]

Lol

[topaz veldt]

"so it's 4K then?"

[pure garnet]

my 5k ultrawide fr

[vocal plume]

30:9

[edgy laurel]

the problem is peoples insistence on using the xK names

[pure garnet]

my tv is 1k

[merry stirrup]

speaking of

i bought my sister a 4K tv yesterday

because her cats broke hers

[edgy laurel]

also 5nail, if you care, change your plex password. stuff taken was hashed but can never be too careful https://forums.plex.tv/t/important-notice-of-security-incident/930523

So, AMD enabled FSR4 in "most" FSR3.1 games?

[merry stirrup]

now they have to port it to more than 4 cards

[edgy laurel]

more games than I thought with FSR4 support https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/fidelityfx/supported-games.html#fsr4-item-e0753f72ea-tab

[pure garnet]

isn’t it hardware backed now

[edgy laurel]

oh, I gues thats with the new driver

[merry stirrup]

allegedly their own source code points to them porting it to 7000 series

[pure garnet]

gtx 1080ti owners may need to finally accept their ewaste is donezo

[spare valve]

im back

so does anyone have some reccomendations for an OLED monitor with a refresh rate of 240 hertz and a screen resolution of 2560 by 1440 and a screen size of 27 inch

[wise bear]

have you tried putting that search crteria intooo, idk, pcpartpicker?

[edgy laurel]

I'm not sure what models are available using the latest (that you can buy) WOLED panels, but the QD-OLED models are all using the same panel. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&F=612140000,711200000&D=240000&P=9&sort=price&page=1

MSI's offerings are popular and pretty drama free

[frank zealot]

One thing I notice, nobody ordered anything from Amazon or similar:

On day 1 or 2, they could have ordered cheap HDMI type cables and Speaker Wire from amazon and had it in hand before the end of the challenge....

I wonder if online ordering is against the rules

[edgy laurel]

Just don't expect me to explain the difference between these three. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BR7scf,HL4Pxr,qPYfrH/

[frank zealot]

"We're making a tiny change that will probably matter somewhere, but we're not going to explain it anywhere, so good fuckin' luck people!"

[edgy laurel]

Probably. I simply cannot be bothered to dig deeper. All that really matters is the panel itself is the same

[pure garnet]

i feel like it’d be against the spirit of the rules but we also had no computers this go around

[edgy laurel]

the QPX probably has a built in KVM, if that matters

[young void]

Whats a kvm sparks?

[edgy laurel]

plug in two PC's, share peripherals

[pure garnet]

kernel virtual machine surely

[young void]

Kinda neats

[spare valve]

i dont know why you keep on reacting to my questions instead of helping me, i prefer answers from people on discord. So i ask people on discord.

[wise bear]

🙄

[pure garnet]

(it’s actually keyboard video mouse in that context)

[young void]

Due to recent expierences anything but the alienware should be great if within spec

[spare valve]

thanks

[spare valve]

im watching a video rn where one panel is glossy and another one is matt, is that still the case or should i not bother

[edgy laurel]

touchy topic around here

[young void]

Matt pic 1 glossy pic 2 and 3

I personally like the matte but the glossy should have slightly better clarity

[frank zealot]

Why? They were allowed to use phone, laptops, etc. and do all sorts of online

Can't see why amazon would be a bad thing for the challenge

[spare valve]

yeah glossy has better quality doesnt it

[edgy laurel]

clarity

[young void]

I mean i hear its more lit vs dark room type deal but honestly both are stunning

[pure garnet]

amazon to me doesn’t feel very scrapyard

[pure garnet]

but “only small things” would be a fair compromise i think

[spare valve]

yeah ill go with glossy then is that wled or qd oled

[frank zealot]

you can't buy a full PC off amazon and win the challenge, it just wouldn't work
You don't have the budget, but accessories would make life way easier

[young void]

Mat left on samsung g8 oled 4k, glossy right on alienware 4k oled. 240hz .03ms yada yada rada rada

[slim solstice]

Hi

[frank zealot]

Such as:
Buying a TV Wall Mount for 40 bucks to avoid some crazy jank cut up shelving TV Stands

[frank zealot]

every single part of that statement made perfect sense

[pure garnet]

the crazy tv stands were good for content

[green marsh]

damn, the cheapest way to get the Bambu A1 Combo 3D printer is... to order it from the manufacturers EU store

[frank zealot]

that was pretty hilarious

[green marsh]

484 euros from there, locally they are sold for 600-800 euros 😄

[pure garnet]

when they got the sharpies out that was also funny

[frank zealot]

I did feel bad about the failed 3D Print. That kinda sucked ass

[pure garnet]

i guess amazon would be fine since they 3d printed a lot between both teams this go around

[frank zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Universal-Adjustable-Projection-MOUNT-VP01W/dp/B01013QA86

Dan would have lost about 3 fewer years of his life

[shell void]

ultra 3 finally exists for realskies

[pure garnet]

i need michael to start gassing up zen 6 so nova lake is what he buys fr

[frank zealot]

Zen 6 leaks haven't started anywhere that i've seen yet, but i'm sure we'll be seein plenty of gas ther

[pure garnet]

i’m curious if arrow lake refresh will be seen slightly better if 200s is on by default

[steel stream]

somebody tell random

[shell void]

fr i gotta show him

[whole coral]

Mmmm coffee

Just black coffee. No sugar

[cerulean cosmos]

How would one manually ping their own router and get info back in a readable form? Just kinda want to build my knowledge on the networking side of things.

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

if this is a basic home setup with a single router, thats likely your default gateway

ipconfig / all and find the IP for it

then ping it

[cerulean cosmos]

Ok thanks

[fringe vigil]

Why yall not playing hollow knight

[spare valve]

https://titan-army.com/nl/products/titan-army-g27t8t-gaming-monitor?ref=TECHLESS is this a crazy deal!?

[devout ridge]

check my activity

[fringe vigil]

What activity

[devout ridge]

my game activity on my profile

[merry stirrup]

no game

[devout ridge]

oh damn did i disable it

[pure garnet]

[devout ridge]

i'm playing skong

[merry stirrup]

ur a skong

[fringe vigil]

Oh where are you now

[steel stream]

it's ok

[edgy laurel]

not when there is an MSI for the same price

in the link I sent you

[spare valve]

oh i though 360hz for 500 is pretty good

[merry stirrup]

i paid that

[edgy laurel]

oh its 360hz.. thats different

[cerulean cosmos]

What if I wanted to send a custom packet?

[edgy laurel]

I wouldn't buy a Titan Army product, but you do you

[edgy laurel]

maybe something like PingPlotter would be easier to visualize things

[cerulean cosmos]

Ok tysm

[spare valve]

i mean 240hz is more than enough so if you say msi has better quality then i will just go with a 240hz

[hoary hatch]

Never even heard of titan army

[shell void]

i have

titan army and innocn are both subsidiaries of a big chinese company

titan army, innocn, and KTC offer banger cheap monitors

[merry stirrup]

this is true my gf has a ktc monitor i think

[cerulean cosmos]

$350 is wild

[spare valve]

what monitor do you have?

[merry stirrup]

pgo27fv i think

[spare valve]

its 600 for me, is it even worth it like what games do you even get 360fps

[fringe vigil]

Whachu talking bout

[spare valve]

?

[fringe vigil]

360fps

[steel stream]

CS2 and minecraft probably

[spare valve]

what do you mean

[cerulean cosmos]

So what would something like "telnet yahoo.com 80" do?

As an example

[merry stirrup]

i paid 550 for it i would get something by LG or similar, asrock OSD isnt great

[shell void]

this is getting silly

it's like he's a satire channel

[merry stirrup]

💀 its over

why does every person on xianyu with an mpower also have a 14600KF

[steel stream]

dawg no one from an OEM is going "No LOL"

[merry stirrup]

these value goblins bro i dont want your shit cpu with the board

[shell void]

guys my source said "INTEL SUCKS! XDD" "amd 4life <3"

you have to believe me

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup I haven’t found the EVC but I also didn’t look super hard so

[merry stirrup]

AUGH

mkay

[cerulean cosmos]

Who in their right mind would actually put a bowling ball on a shelf above their bed

Apparently one of my dumbass friends

[random flame]

@fierce shell @midnight basalt
I wanted to show you guys this last night, but couldn't while links were broken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deKfNQ5yVxo

[midnight basalt]

That is a surprisingly clean looking speed benchy.

[green marsh]

i will be happy with my dumbed down printer (A1 Combo) if i buy it later. I just fear i will have hard time making models for it 😄

[random flame]

I'm honestly surprised they just went with the bed moving around at stupid high speeds instead of the heads.

[wise bear]

less mass

[midnight basalt]

probably very benchy specific as they know the print will be low mass wouldn't work on bigger designs probably

[heavy mantle]

not ur mom

[wise bear]

My mom is a jar of ash.

[heavy mantle]

oh

😭

[wise bear]

yeah checkmate mf

[random flame]

I've had half the thought that if it didn't remain at a specific temperature the whole time, it would be either hard to remove or potentially launch the whole thing off the bed to who knows where.

[heavy mantle]

so it is your mom

[wise bear]

what, the jar of ash? yes.

[pale grove]

mmm pizzer

[heavy mantle]

yess

alr i sound too much of an asshole rn mb

[merry stirrup]

keyboard