tech-chat-2

[bronze mango]

That's how Mafia works

[fervent elm]

Its not connected via pcie
Its built into the cpu
Just cpu-z being odd

[nova trout]

it's hwinfo btw

[fringe vigil]

yh it is but im just better with KBM for aiming

[bronze mango]

https://tenor.com/view/mafia-thats-how-gif-13721956

[fervent elm]

Ah

[fringe vigil]

playing mafia when riding a horse or a car would be horrendous with KBM

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I want to use controller but switching annoys me

[fringe vigil]

which mafia you playing

[topaz veldt]

Mafia Home Town

[fringe vigil]

I can’t wait for mafia 4

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats what im playing

[fringe vigil]

it’s not out yet

[young void]

No u

Jokes

Should be right? Im not in the loops

[fringe vigil]

Mafia the old country is not mafia 4 guys sigh 🤦‍♂️

it’s a prequel, it’s its own game

[young void]

Ive only played ps2 version :/ , looked alot like an early gta 3 👴

[fringe vigil]

That’s the OG mafia

[steel stream]

Enzo Ferrari?

[fringe vigil]

No

[nova trout]

this makes me so happy

old games are so wholesome

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-cars-guido-only-the-ferraris-upset-gif-17689656

[fringe vigil]

lol yeah

[topaz veldt]

im at the quarry

[fringe vigil]

the sulphur mines lmao

In Collezolfo

[topaz veldt]

i am collecting money from dudes

[fringe vigil]

Huh

[topaz veldt]

the dudes are on strike

[fringe vigil]

ohh

[topaz veldt]

Bippo gonna fight

[fringe vigil]

This is sorta mid game

Well kinda

Early to mid

The opera house is the best bit of the game imo wait till you get there

[nova trout]

"pay me or pay doctor to fix broken bones your choice"

[topaz veldt]

THIS IS EARLY

[fringe vigil]

Yeah early lol

[topaz veldt]

sorry caps

[fringe vigil]

succaminchia

do you like Isabella snail

[topaz veldt]

We have already had an affair

[fringe vigil]

Lol who with

[topaz veldt]

she keeps sneaking into my basement

[fringe vigil]

No she doesn’t lol

[young void]

XD

[fringe vigil]

snail makes up his own storylines honestly

[topaz veldt]

she does

[fringe vigil]

bruh where

[topaz veldt]

she can't get enough

[fringe vigil]

🤦‍♂️

[topaz veldt]

people think its animals in the night

[fringe vigil]

I will say one thing though, you’re right, at one point in the game lmao

[topaz veldt]

I know, I wrote that part

[fringe vigil]

Jokes aside that could never happen at the villla lmao, torisi prob got 50 men watching everything

[topaz veldt]

They don't know this dirty dog Enzo

[fringe vigil]

Ohhh

don’t you call enzo a dirty dog

buttana

[topaz veldt]

Jorj you smell bad

[fringe vigil]

Enzo was every respectful throughout the whole game, he didn’t even F in the brothels

[topaz veldt]

quit yappin

[fringe vigil]

Where is that o never seen it

[topaz veldt]

This is Mafia 4

[fringe vigil]

Shut up

[topaz veldt]

lol

[nova trout]

water + blood mixture puddle in fish store is against code

750$ fine for health code violation 385.23

[topaz veldt]

@fringe vigil when you are int eh customs yard with the whiskey did you take out like every guard

[fringe vigil]

yeah only for their loot

But you don’t have to, I think I left some alive

[pure garnet]

i keep seeing ztt on tiktok

snails favorite content creator

[topaz veldt]

I am trying to stash all these dudes lol

[fringe vigil]

Stash?

[topaz veldt]

probably the weakest mods known to man

[topaz veldt]

hide the bodies

[fringe vigil]

bruh

you don’t need to

[pure garnet]

i think the 5090 shelf would rattle them too hard

[fringe vigil]

no one’s gonna find them lol

only hide it if there’s 2 guys patrolling the same area

[topaz veldt]

yeah one dude found one and i had to take him out

[topaz veldt]

thankfully i am banned I can't upset them any longer

[fringe vigil]

Just find the whiskey

it don’t matter whos alive

[topaz veldt]

theres like 8 dudes sleeping behind a crate

gnite gherks

[fringe vigil]

The game gets better, better missions

[topaz veldt]

oh you can skip ride, finally

[fringe vigil]

lol

[topaz veldt]

oh no i just shot my horse

ohhh my poor horse

[sharp phoenix]

mmmmm.......has my CPU voltage been too high this whole time? Just updated my bios

[topaz veldt]

voltage is always high at low load

[sharp phoenix]

I've always heard that exactly 1.4V is the generally highest most people should set it

[topaz veldt]

what CPU

That view is not your CPU voltage at any meaningful point

[sharp phoenix]

3900X. Have a 240 AIO

[topaz veldt]

@fringe vigil this game has some wild glitches - just capped a dude and he flew 50 ft into the air

@fringe vigil how do you get knives to open up boxes

[fringe vigil]

You just press B

[topaz veldt]

my knife broke i guess

[fringe vigil]

Yeah you need a whetstone

to bring the durability back

[topaz veldt]

i dunno wtf to do

how do you use a whetstone

[fringe vigil]

sigh look bottom left

you might have a block thingy

Press d pad left or right

It’ll let you select

Press X to use whetstone

it sharpens the knife

[topaz veldt]

oh you have to equip the knife

and it does it...

[fringe vigil]

well sure

[topaz veldt]

now i have to hide like 30 bodies

I don't like to leave a mess

@fringe vigil does this part get better

kinda boring so far

[fringe vigil]

trust me it’s gonna get better

These missions at the beginning are a little boring

[topaz veldt]

totally boring

stupid game was apparently running in Unreal TSR or whatever

[nova trout]

who's paying these prices

[fringe vigil]

Just enjoy the story, who cares if missions are slow rn

[whole lake]

my OEM Double-shot shine-through ABS ANSI-DE keycaps set has finally arrived 🙌 🙌 ... ||yes u read that right... ANSI-DE||

[pure garnet]

why laser etched?

[whole lake]

are they though?

[pure garnet]

the legends look the part

[whole lake]

what?

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel have you seen The Paper kind of a 20 years later of The Office

[hoary hatch]

Following up on the story from "The Office..."
woah what

[turbid locust]

I watched the first episode and it didn’t really do it for me

Seemed like it was trying too hard

[edgy laurel]

watching the trailer now

the office might be lightning in a bottle, if you know what i mean

so they redid the song, got copies of the characters..

i dunno about this

whoa whoa whoa Oscar?!?

[frank cypress]

@merry stirrup type shi

[pure garnet]

"selling cuz i hate amd atp" lmfao

[viral fjord]

What is this AMD atp?

[turbid locust]

skill issue

[pure garnet]

nah radeon gpus are a skill issue

[viral fjord]

I won't use anything BUT AMD.

[pure garnet]

think i'm gonna try a 7800 setup on the tomahawk before bed

[turbid locust]

I havent had a driver issue in 5 years

between both AMD and Nvidia lmao

[viral fjord]

Nvidia are overpriced and currently have SO many issues

[pure garnet]

quite the take

[turbid locust]

"overpriced" is subjective but yk

[pure garnet]

i would chase 8000 but i kinda don't care since i did it already on arl

[viral fjord]

Show me an Nvidia card, and I can show you one that is just as capable and be half the price.

[pure garnet]

5090

[turbid locust]

shows any CUDA workload

[pure garnet]

or hell 5080 even

[frank cypress]

and amd cards aren't? lmao

[pure garnet]

the 9070xt also isn't half the price of the competing 5070ti, it's like $30 less

[frank cypress]

1k cad 9070xt vs 1.1k 5070ti

[pure garnet]

tiktok slideshow type pc argument

[turbid locust]

choice is clear here lol

[frank cypress]

which the 9070xt is worse pretty much across the board

maybe winning in raster perf but like.... its 2025

[viral fjord]

I have never had an issue with an AMD card, nor have any of my customers. -shrugs- True about the 5090 so far, but at the same time there is no real need for anyone to actually USE a 5090.

[turbid locust]

Doesnt even win raster in every game lol

[pure garnet]

cheapest in stock on pcpp us is a $50 gap between the xt and the ti

[viral fjord]

In real world usage, they are a complete ripoff.

[frank cypress]

and still worse everything else loooool

[frank cypress]

lol no?

[turbid locust]

You dont have a use for a 5090 lol

[viral fjord]

yes.

[pure garnet]

i don't think the fastest card on the market counts as a rip off

[viral fjord]

The human eye canot see anything ober 32 fps.

[frank cypress]

amd cards are completely useless to me - I dont call them a ripoff because I dont get any value from them

[turbid locust]

People that do real compute work as their job has a use for a 5090

[frank cypress]

oh ok good ragebait bro

[turbid locust]

Ok we're ragebaiting now gg

[viral fjord]

Fastest card is not necessary. The human eye can't see the difference.

[frank cypress]

u got me there

[merry stirrup]

ober

[viral fjord]

It's a biological fact

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/rg5joNDekcc.gif

[merry stirrup]

meow meow meow

anyways good evening

[frank cypress]

me when

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/made-up-making-things-up-misinformation-spreading-misinformation-lying-gif-5615616319157116451

[pure garnet]

good evening floppa

i finally own a thermalright product that is decent to me

[turbid locust]

I was gonna argue for AMD cards for the guys sake but now im just gonna call em dogshit and be the biggest Nvidia shill on the planet

[merry stirrup]

💀

[merry stirrup]

my roomamate has had 3 driver craashes today

[pure garnet]

i am quite enjoying my peerless assassin mini because it let me fit a ram fan on my amd setup

[merry stirrup]

1 owner 7800xt already frequently driver creashing

[turbid locust]

I never had issues across RDNA2 or 3 ngl

[brisk jolt]

real

[pure garnet]

my 6700xt was fine aside from the lack of decent compute performance

[merry stirrup]

cards is just buns

[pure garnet]

at the time in stable diffusion it was slower than my mobile 1060 in my laptop

and i had to boot into linux as it didn't work on windows at all

[pure garnet]

why is bro playing honkai: star rail

[brisk jolt]

to see if the egpu was working

i have no other game installed on the laptop

[pure garnet]

firing up the 60fps capped gacha to check if the gpu works

based ngl

[brisk jolt]

the igpu wont be able to reach 60

[pure garnet]

i quit after they demoted fu to standard banner

[brisk jolt]

ill try cyberpunk next time I do ts

[slim pebble]

mic drop

[brisk jolt]

just the typical blind AMD glazer

hating the other side with no exact reason

[nova trout]

solution: don't be a loyal fan.

[frank cypress]

just buy what gives you what you need

[nova trout]

tell em

[frank cypress]

they're too mentally deficient to understand that

[nova trout]

brand loyalty signals low IQ'ism

[frank cypress]

well

I think they're ragebaiting but

[nova trout]

i think it's a mental-associative-bias

i've had relatives like that

they think starbucks is the best coffee ever

they no absolute nothing about coffee, but the way starbucks is presented and treat them and the logo and design therefore starbucks best coffee

intel has blue and white nice logo = intel best

also i remember before ryzen CPUs came out
i7? great! i3 laptop? bad

auto-associative-bias

[pallid marsh]

https://wccftech.com/amd-discontinues-wraith-prism-and-wraith-spire-coolers-for-select-ryzen-5000-7000-and-8000g-processors/ all my homies hate AMD

[frosty prism]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[wispy sequoia]

B580 LE just looks so clean to me. I bought my b580 back when you had to be within 30 seconds of restocks to be able to buy one so I ended up with an AsRock Steel legends which is still great but I kinda wish I had the LE.

[brisk jolt]

Im from singapore and the shop that sold the LEs has tons of them. Bought it for my country’s MSRP, but it has fallen below by about $60 SGD during prime day.

[livid flame]

That’s rubbish. Basically now they ship the worst cooler. I wonder what they use in house to test tbh, as that spire is a bit of a shocker tbh

[bronze mango]

Tbf, that seems to be like 10% of the market for that card at most

Other 10% is enthusiast

80% is somehow 13 year olds that play Fortnite 16 hours a day and act like their hard work paid for the card on reddit

Pc hobby fr has me convinced 90% of the nations wealth is held by 13-16 year olds

[brisk jolt]

Good to know im part of a 0.000000001%

-19 year old
-too busy to play games on the 5090

[turbid locust]

same but 21 lmao

It issss what it issss

my fault for getting a real job

[brisk jolt]

my fault for having to study, work part time, have some responsibilities, and have adhd, a depressed mind

[south shuttle]

-99% rep for amd

[topaz veldt]

Right?

[slim solstice]

The fitness grand pacer test

The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.

[serene tapir]

Hello,
I'm looking for a laptop for uni (need something with long battery life, quiet, but that can still handle moderate coding/simulation workloads, gaming on it isn't much of a concern) and I'm currently hesitating between a MacBook air m4, or an xps 13 (with a core ultra 7 258v)

[livid flame]

I’m looking for the winning lotto numbers if ya can help too

[serene tapir]

It's 76 69 42 91 37

[rocky torrent]

m4

[serene tapir]

And why the MacBook over the xps ?

[rocky torrent]

nicer chassis, display, trackpad and most importantly, doesn't run windows

you also can't get any quieter than fanless

[serene tapir]

I mean, windows wise I'm pretty happy with it on my PC

[rocky torrent]

i joke a bit in regards to windows, but i do think macos will make you change your mind about windows if you take the time to learn it

[serene tapir]

I'm just sightly worried about compatibility tho

[rocky torrent]

compatibility with what?

[serene tapir]

Random open source softwares

[rocky torrent]

any in particular?

[serene tapir]

Not any I have in mind

[rocky torrent]

i'll go out on a limb and say that compatibility won't be an issue for you then

it's pretty rare to find software that won't run

[serene tapir]

I mean, being in physics I'm expecting to get throw at random softwares every now and then
Is there any way to run Linux on m4 silicon btw ?

[rocky torrent]

there's an arch distro called asahi that i believe is fully supported on m1-m3 and partially supported on m4

[serene tapir]

Last time I checked that one it didn't work on m4

[rocky torrent]

yeah you're right actually. nothing for m4 yet

there's parallels and crossover for windows software as well

[serene tapir]

What's that ?

[bronze mango]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Never get a Mac for school unless you're literally in a major where you know you'll never use software beyond a web browser

So unless you're in psychology, skip the software compatibility issues

[serene tapir]

Any laptop recommendations or is the xps nice ?

[bronze mango]

Idk what exactly laptop to get, but I know not to get something where you'll hate life any time a class needs you to use a specific software and at the end of class you're meeting the professor to ask for options because you can't run it.

[serene tapir]

Fair enough

[frosty prism]

I do 2 laptops

Well "laptops"

I have 1 light gaming laptop and 1 windows tablet

[high creek]

I sure hope not

[bronze mango]

Skill issue

[high creek]

I saw that gpuz had a sensor for cpu. Wasn’t disappointed

[devout ridge]

gpuz has a speciality, and it sure ain't the CPU

[high creek]

For sure, but it was cool pressing max temp recorded lol

[green marsh]

sometimes people post disturbing sale photos

[devout ridge]

that poor socket

[livid flame]

Looks well removed

[oak vector]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[oak vector]

bunnies are such silly lil characters

[edgy laurel]

included pin protector

[wraith steeple]

[brisk jolt]

infact also very well cleaned

Finna see someone sell a cooler and a AM4 cpu as a combo (both stuck tgt)

[cerulean cosmos]

You know what ultra / Univision messages/ calls are?

[topaz veldt]

lol i left my work laptop on but off the charger - its dead dead, fine. plug the usb-c cable in. Sitting here like 15 mins... press power... nothing. WTF!

yeah I never plugged the other end of the usb-c cabel in rofl

[cerulean cosmos]

I figured out why I wasn't able to use my other laptop that I got a while back paid $1,000 for that piece of crap but pretty much the little plastic pin inside of it that kept the socket in place so that it would actually make a connection to the charger broke so now it sinks into the computer I'll just probably hot glue it to get the rest of the

[cerulean cosmos]

Info off of it

[wraith steeple]

How's TC2

[frank zealot]

TC2 has no feelings, it is merely a set of paramaters that pseudo-exist on a server somewhere in the cloud

[edgy laurel]

Elian ain't around, we're doing great

[edgy laurel]

#mondays

[wraith steeple]

Ic. Ic. I'm helping someone out in OC channel for WCing stuff ATM

[twilit fox]

@twilit foxHello! I am new here.
My name is Abdun Nafay Rathore, and use "elitehat_developer" as my username. I am insanely passionate about CS & IT.
Can anyone help me get into this server and talk publicly? I would like to talk with others for technology.

[arctic bronze]

Gotta protect the pins

[arctic bronze]

You gotta be a bot bc no one talks like this

Or a kid

[queen yarrow]

Best am4 cpu and some bafoon posts it for sale like this very sad

[arctic bronze]

Its not the best in general but its the best for workstation workloads

[twilit fox]

@arctic bronze I am not a bot, I am a real human but a bit formal, Sorry!

[queen yarrow]

I mean it as most expensive considered top of line

[arctic bronze]

That would be the 5800x3d

[queen yarrow]

Only for gameing tho

5950x is the best for most other things

[arctic bronze]

Eh

[brisk jolt]

got fucked over by the uncle talking while cutting my hair, ends up, the takeout restaurant I was gonna go closed

[edgy laurel]

what the fuck is this sentence

[brisk jolt]

so basically he took too damn fucking long to cut my hair

[livid flame]

Frustration

[wraith steeple]

A Custom Watercooling channel would be lovely, but I highly doubt we'll ever see one be created here

[cerulean cosmos]

Waterboard your PC

[brisk jolt]

thats cool and all but i wanna get a itx board

[cerulean cosmos]

9 out of 10 technicians recommend

[livid flame]

Jay has one of those but I think you gotta pay for his discord

[wraith steeple]

Eh I'm already in a good portion of WCing discord servers. Also was in Jay's for a bit and I don't recall having to pay for access (unless it has changed recently)

[livid flame]

Oh no I am wrong

The JayzTwoCents discord is free

[brisk jolt]

15 mins haircut became 30 mins

[topaz veldt]

your uncle cuts your hair/

[brisk jolt]

Erm, no went to a barbershop operated by an unc

[shell void]

@topaz veldt this block seems op

[livid flame]

With a bowl

[wraith steeple]

Supercool is another one that's been popping recently on r/watercooling. Based out of Thailand too IIRC

[brisk jolt]

Ok I so wanna get a b860i with a 265k build just so I can hold it with the gpu

[shell void]

it do be supercool

[wraith steeple]

Man that stain black Corsair PMMA looks soooooo good

[livid flame]

Why do you want a dead platform?

[wraith steeple]

[cerulean cosmos]

Mfw instead of just directly connecting hdmi to hdmi if somebody decided to use USB c to HDMI for whatever freaking reason

[topaz veldt]

Hard to go wrong w/ direct die

[frank zealot]

why would weird adapters cause more issues than just plugging into the native port?

[cerulean cosmos]

Oh I wonder why connecting USBC from my laptop because I'm building my new pc soon instead of just connecting directly to HDMI with the cable that I have I wonder why it doesn't fucking work

[livid flame]

Well it depends on the laptop

And the cable being used

[shell void]

seems like the EKWB sucks but the rest are fine

[cerulean cosmos]

I don't even know the guy was being very descriptive but pretty much apparently be using USBC to HDMI somehow with an adapter and it was just getting red lines on his screen

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-iceman-cometh-batman-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10776182

[livid flame]

Sounds like the adapter can’t handle the bandwidth

[wraith steeple]

The Iceman DD block is probably the most common one I see

[topaz veldt]

hm not sure

[cerulean cosmos]

Pretty sure this is just the raw output from the usb

He said this only happened after he reset the settings

[livid flame]

Yeah apparently the rating on most adapters is rubbish

A quick google says don’t use them

I’m not sure why you’d do this instead of buying a suitable dock

[brisk jolt]

Theres no real gap to fill between my 7600X and 9800X3D builds, so I’d like to try intel considering they have some bundles that are quite good value rn

[cerulean cosmos]

Answer: don't try intel

[livid flame]

Well Intel works for some situations

[cerulean cosmos]

For gaming wouldn't recommend it

If you're on a budget maybe but if you can afford it definitely go for the amd cpus

[livid flame]

And he’s right, Intel have shot prices through the floor to be as competitive as possible but normally you’ll still pay more than AMD.

[shell void]

setsuna: i already have two am5 builds and i want to play with an intel cpu
chat: buy more amd

[livid flame]

If it’s more than gaming, for a good balance with productivity, it can work as a platform now. Only issue is it’s now confirmed dead. So upgrading is a real drawback compared to AM5 rumoured to go to 2029 for final cpu releases

[shell void]

xd

[delicate vector]

Guys my mouse broke I need a new gaming mouse budget under 100€ any suggestions???

[brisk jolt]

as far as ITX prices and bundles go, AMD’s 9700x and 7700/x lose value wise to the 265k/kf B860I rn

And no, I dont care if its a dead platform xd

[wraith steeple]

Though too bad most of their stuff is on TaoBao exclusively

[livid flame]

Go for it then I say. In the UK it’s about 30% more expensive for Intel still so I’d rarely recommend it for cost.

If you got a super deal, sounds like you’ll make a nice little SFF

[brisk jolt]

Builds gonna have no case, screwing the PSU into the GPU mount and carrying the thing via GPU. Something like what I did here

[shell void]

o_o

[cerulean cosmos]

For second there I somehow thought you had plugged in a GPU to a power extension

Velka 3 rev 3.0 – Velkase https://share.google/vBniZd9H0FmVi7chf

[brisk jolt]

thats the EGPU rn xd

[cerulean cosmos]

4 l case

[livid flame]

That won’t fit bigger than a 4060solo/5060 solo/5700

[brisk jolt]

its not supposed to

[livid flame]

My friend recently put a 5060 solo in it for his esports travelling build

[cerulean cosmos]

Yeah it'd be a pretty nice mobile computer

[brisk jolt]

anything sub 5L ur entering into LP cards

[cerulean cosmos]

I'd actually like to see what you can end up cramming into that thing Maxed out

[livid flame]

Theoretically I could get a 5060ti in it for him but he didn’t want to do the work to get it in

[brisk jolt]

ngl getting the b860i is also a good excuse for me to get cl26 ram

[cerulean cosmos]

(that's what she said)

[frank zealot]

8000+ MT/s RAM

[brisk jolt]

otherwise I’d consider the Z890I nova

[cerulean cosmos]

Couldn't you strip down a 4070 and try to get it in there?

[livid flame]

Putting a 5060ti in a velka 3 means losing around 4cm. Which means forcing the heatsink in (no concern it should go fine tbh) but the biggest problem was he would need to create your own fan/shroud solution.

He didn’t wanna do it, even if he dropped it off at mine and I gave it a go

[cerulean cosmos]

Would 3D printed work?

[livid flame]

MSI do a 202mm 5060ti iirc

He’s more performance than looks. So was just going to string up some decent fans

Use some wood to stabilise

Keep half the shroud and 1 original fan

It was never going to be pretty

[frank zealot]

a 5060 TI can potentially be 16GB, which is better than a 4070

and less work

[livid flame]

Yeah 5060ti msi 16gb is 204mm

[frank zealot]

If you strip down a 4070, you'd still have to figure out proper cooling still, which would get annoying

[livid flame]

Might even be able to just shunt some of the shroud off that and force it in

[delicate vector]

Is this a good mouse for the price?

[livid flame]

You wouldn’t do it to a 4070 anyway.

The pcb on the 5060ti is smaller and easier to work with. Also thermally better for the smaller case

[frank zealot]

mice are SUPER personal preference, it's hard to say for any one person

[cerulean cosmos]

Yeah

[frank zealot]

is it a good mouse? yes
Is it good for you? you'd have to make the call

[edgy laurel]

This

[delicate vector]

Lot of my friends have this one or the normal superlight

They say its great

[frank zealot]

how convenient, then you can ask to try it and decide if you like it

[cerulean cosmos]

Okay so my pla melts at like 200° c and a recommended maximum of 250° c so I should be able to make a custom Shroud for it right if I were to do this

And usually the max that I've seen is like 120° c without a fan or any other type of cooling

[edgy laurel]

I have an MX Master 3 here at work, one of the best mice for office work. It hurts my hand.

[cerulean cosmos]

If they've removed the heat emergency shut off

[frank zealot]

I'm also running a MX Master, and I fuckin' LOVE it (I actually wish it was bigger)

[edgy laurel]

I'm all about mouse comfort. What works for one might not work for someone else.

If it was bigger, it might actually be better for me

[cerulean cosmos]

Dare you to get a trackball

[edgy laurel]

(thats what she said)

[edgy laurel]

no joke, i've been toying with the idea of getting an MX Ergo for a while

I think it would be great for work

[cerulean cosmos]

Lol

So yeah I think a 3D printed shroud would actually work just judging on the heat tolerances

[livid flame]

It will be fine

The issue is the heatsink tbh

[cerulean cosmos]

Did you end up getting it to work?

[frank zealot]

one of these

[livid flame]

I haven’t done it as wasn’t a need to

[edgy laurel]

Its amazing how much twisting my wrist up at that angle makes it feel. Flat against the desk is so unnatural. Just doing that now with my current mouse, my wrist immediately feels better.

[cerulean cosmos]

Can't you just partially chop some of the heat sink off?

[livid flame]

The heatsink looks to be 1-1.5cm too big for a velka3. However I know the velka3, it should just bend to allow it in

Would need to have it all and try it to see if I could make it work. But my friend just went 5060 instead of letting me give it a go

[cerulean cosmos]

How much would a setup like that actually go for cuz I'd love to have a small PC like that

I would assume that'd be pretty portable

[livid flame]

He bought his for £220. Was originally a 10series cpu, upgraded it to 12400f. Originally a Radeon 5700, changed that to 5060. I think all in all he’s spent around £600

[cerulean cosmos]

The 3090 still stacks up right?

[livid flame]

He sold his desktop rig for £450 after all upgrades (3600x/2060s) so he’s only £150ish down and he can take it in a plane when he visits his gf

[brisk jolt]

I too want to build a sub 5L PC

Just for funsies

[livid flame]

Tbh he could just get a free pc off his gf as she’s one of the bigger twitch streamers so he doesn’t have to move around with a pc. I don’t get why he didn’t tbh

[edgy laurel]

Stacks up against what?

[brisk jolt]

He prob isnt that type to ask because he can demand it xd

i cant explain but like ur embarassed to take advantage

[cerulean cosmos]

Could you get a 9800x3d in there?

[livid flame]

I dunno how the set up is in their place. Normally he’s using her setup when we play though tbh

He has way more money than her also, but he’s northern. So he is tight af

[cerulean cosmos]

Okay so yeah

[cerulean cosmos]

I wish there was something kind of like a TeamViewer but more it oriented

[stable turret]

600USD
4070ti super (3 years warranty)
vs
9070XT (3 years warranty)

which one to choose?

mainly plays AAA titles + overwatch 2

[brisk jolt]

whatever is cheaper

[stable turret]

priced the same

[brisk jolt]

9070XT is 10% faster

only situation I’d mainly go nvidia here is for OLED with RTX HDR

[stable turret]

is FSR4 on par with dlss4?

[brisk jolt]

In what sense

if its in visual quality dlss4 still edges out

DLSS4 is also implemented in way more games

[shell void]

4070Ti Super

featureset is more important than 10% more raster performance

[edgy laurel]

close enough for 95% of people not pixel peeping, its just barely in any games

[topaz veldt]

Yeah as having owned the 9070XT Its great in several games, but I'd prob rather have a 4070 Ti Super

[livid flame]

For what reason?

[stable turret]

yeh, i think there are substantially more people recommending me 4070ti super

so i think maybe i should go nvidia on this choice

[frank zealot]

Event Viewer is great, but it also pisses me off

[stable turret]

it seems like,
9070xt vs 4070ti super:
Raster Performance: AMD + 10%
RT: +0%
Adobe AE: -50%
Video Encoding/Decoding: -33%
AI: -33%
DLSS4/FSR4 Supports: -30%
DLSS4/FSR4 Quality: -5%
AUTODESK: -5%?

[topaz veldt]

RT +0% lol what

[stable turret]

is there any comeback from AMD for this comparison?

[brisk jolt]

4070tis still wins over 9070xt in rt

[topaz veldt]

hand over fist

[frank zealot]

If all you care about is gaming, a 9070XT is a solid card.

But if you do anything beyond gaming, NVidia wins

[stable turret]

some people say 4070tis is better at RT, some say 9070xt better at RT, so i used 0% on that particular part

[topaz veldt]

9070XT is in no earth orbit better at RT

[stable turret]

yeh, probably

[shell void]

FSR4 is only available in a handful of multiplayer games which negates its slim performance advantage

[frank zealot]

no, the 9070 XT is not better at RT than a 4070 TI Super

[stable turret]

input latency wise,
NVidia has Reflex Boost (supports multiple titles)
AMd has Antilag 2 (supports 3 titles and doesn't support the ones i play)

at this point, its really hard for me to choose AMD if those two cards are priced similarly...

[frank zealot]

the 9000 XT Series was a MASSIVE LEAP in RT for AMD.

But NVidia already had a huge lead in RT Performance already, so the 9000 series was "catching up" (kinda)

[shell void]

g sync + v sync + reflex for the twin

[stable turret]

and not sure if i missed anything in my previous comparison

[topaz veldt]

There was really only one game I felt played well at 5120x1440 or 4K on my 9070XT and that was COD/Warzone

Every other game I had to turn shit down

[hoary hatch]

Hmm

13600K + Z690 (D4) bundle $150

[teal orbit]

this should be illegal

[shell void]

it’s optimal dude

[wraith steeple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/s/2uSAkmnRJc
Oh boy! Grabs drinks and popcorn p0pe has opened the flood gates of hell that is reddit

[shell void]

v sync works differently when you’re using it in conjunction with variable refresh

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

it just serves as an auto frame limiter to keep you within the VRR window

and reflex keeps your input latency as low as possible

[topaz veldt]

WOW 2.1C WOWOW

[shell void]

coolant temp 7c over ambient? smh

needs more radiator

[topaz veldt]

... it doesn't matter.

GPU before CPU you will have a slightly higher CPU temp, CPU temp before GPU you will have a slightly higher GPU temp. Who cares?

[pure garnet]

i’m 9h into 7800 karhu @shell void

so i think i slam tcl on this speed instead

[wraith steeple]

Yep I respect p0pe (he's one of the admins on WCE) but this is what we mean by "loop order is mostly irrelevant"

[topaz veldt]

Well revered people make silly points

[pure garnet]

why is the cpu temp so high

are threadrippers also “boost to 95c”

oh wait that’s consumer

[shell void]

no ryzen cpus boost to 95c

they boost to a clock target and will go up to 95c if necessary, but will stop before then if the target is reached

[strange ginkgo]

i mean temperature shouldn't be the goal anyway. you want clock speed

[pure garnet]

do the dual ccd chips suck to cool or something

[topaz veldt]

but think of the 2.1C you could improve on

[pure garnet]

because that’s like air cooling numbers

[teal orbit]

waiter! waiter! my CPU runs too fast! make it not use the full temperature range it tolerates

[wraith steeple]

Coolant deltas are the key for good loops

[shell void]

250w is just a lot for two little 70mm chiplets hugging eachother under a blanket

[topaz veldt]

people hone in to the details too much

2 x 480 rads with almost any combination of order and any combination of waterblocks is going to work well

[frank zealot]

do you not see people constanly coming in here saying

"My CPU is at 65c! Is it going to burn out?!?"

[teal orbit]

no because I am willfully ignorant

[strange ginkgo]

thats why i use an external 9 fan radiator

[teal orbit]

the ltt car radiator video was a tutorial

try and get that loop warm

[frank zealot]

LTT needs someone to take Alex's place to do jank cooling nonsense for fun

[topaz veldt]

I also think the script has been lost

[pure garnet]

buy a chiller to use pbo

[topaz veldt]

In my test loop (which has dual 60mm thick 480mm radiators - anything less will have a much bigger negative impact on your CPU as it will start reaching throttle temps) ```

LOL... i mean... wow.

[shell void]

i was reading some threads this morning and saw a guy get an 8c drop on his DD 14900K by switching from parallel to serial

so i guess just get as much rad as possible and run serial but order doesn’t matter much

[topaz veldt]

That's just fundamentals though - parallel loop makes no sense

[teal orbit]

wait so I need to get rid of my IDE drives?

[shell void]

yes

[teal orbit]

dang

maybe my 13700k will finally stop peaking at 90c

[shell void]

yeah who was telling people to do parallel in the first place?

[topaz veldt]

No idea but it was originally a "it looks cool in some configs" thing but yeah it never made sense to me

[devout ridge]

Parallel just halves the flow to each rad

[young void]

What is multicore enhancement for 300 on the board

[frank zealot]

I feel like parallel is just weird.

Just do two loops if that's what you want

[devout ridge]

just run everything in series, problem solved

loop order doesn’t matter either

[topaz veldt]

there's no need to do two loops - just two 360x30 rads and decent fans and success

[frank zealot]

and yet some people still swear it does

[devout ridge]

some people are wrong

[wraith steeple]

Also dual loops are rather inefficient compared to a big loop

[topaz veldt]

Its all over thinking

[frank zealot]

I agree, I'm just sayin'

[devout ridge]

at absolute best, split loops are identical to a big loop, but 99% of the time they’re worse

[ruby locust]

anyone knowledgeable in older thinkpads? im tryna upgrade one for school but i dont know what model i should look for

[teal orbit]

they just call it PL2 or PL1 (cant remember) over here apparently

I should probably set those to the actual TDP someday...

[wraith steeple]

Though honestly, dual loops were mostly for aesthetics more than anything else

[devout ridge]

Please don’t set them to the TDP

[frank zealot]

If you don't want to run CPU into GPU or the reverse?

Just put a rad in the middle:

CPU -> Rad -> GPU -> Rad (with a res in there somewhere)

[pure garnet]

those are 2 different settings boba

[devout ridge]

that doesn’t even matter

[young void]

That'll help to ofc not the same as multicore enhancement pl1 and pl2 control watts but always good to update bios to especially if your amps are crazy high still (bios update a year or so back should've fixed)

[devout ridge]

the difference is so minute you’d never notice

[teal orbit]

one of them was the one I wanted to set, I mean

whichever was the correct one

[pure garnet]

disable mce and set pl2 to 253w

[teal orbit]

its overheating

[devout ridge]

the coolant delta from one part of the loop to another is tiny

[teal orbit]

Refer to my original message

[teal orbit]

I was pretty sure MCE is only an amd thing

it's not a thing on my MSI board

[young void]

Its mostly asus/intel*

[teal orbit]

Idk what it does exactly if not just undo the power limit

[young void]

Msi calls it enhanced turbo in cpu settings

[pure garnet]

yeah the tommy has it

[brisk jolt]

misfiring systemu

https://tenor.com/view/initial-d-misfiring-system-anime-anxious-car-gif-17176707

[pure garnet]

sent crazy voltages

[teal orbit]

oh yeah that's probably especially bad for raptor cove

[wraith steeple]

Lots of folks underestimate the power of convection too

[teal orbit]

I forgot about that.

I should check it

[pure garnet]

did you finally get rid of the 2130 pc

[brisk jolt]

damn thats far into the future

[devout ridge]

convection is nearly meaningless the moment you turn on your fans

[young void]

Just boost the cpu frequency but always good to check and the usual culprit of 12th to 14th gen heats

[teal orbit]

yeah this was a while ago, and also a different pc

that one was replaced with a 265k system

that one doesn't overheat

[young void]

To offs*

4096 lol old bios on this demo

[wraith steeple]

Fair then there's the whole + vs - pressure thing...... That's another thing I often see folks overthink about too (more so in WCing)

[devout ridge]

if you’re watercooling, you should have enough rads where that difference doesn’t matter much

[topaz veldt]

I don't even run side panels so I don't care about pressure - I'd make all my radiators "intake" except it'd blow warmer air on my memory

[shell void]

yeah exhaust rad supremacy unless your ram is watercooled too

[devout ridge]

watercooled ram is so gimmicky

[topaz veldt]

it works

[shell void]

if you’re not into memory overclocking then sure

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[devout ridge]

i refuse to dabble in the black magic

[shell void]

the lion watercools his ram and then dailies 1.85vdd

[topaz veldt]

yeah i mean if you refuse to OC ram then yeah yeah

[devout ridge]

ram OC scares me

[strange ginkgo]

then overclock your ssd

[topaz veldt]

lolwut

[shell void]

solves problem 👍

[devout ridge]

solves problem 👍

[young void]

In modern systems its not so bad just stutters/bsod then clear cmos test new numbers rinse repeat can be fun sometimes doesn't bork windows like it used to as bad. But I get it so no qualms

[shell void]

the person who made that post typed like a gen x father texting

[pure garnet]

Patch notes

• Solved Problem 👍

[devout ridge]

i had better patch notes than that when i managed an mc server for some friends

[teal orbit]

I skipped hyperthreading

[topaz veldt]

I just installed it - it solved problem

[teal orbit]

That's how far it was in the future

[brisk jolt]

New feature: Solved Problem

[wraith steeple]

But there is one thing that always drives me up a wall on r/Watercooling

Regulars here know exactly what I'm referring to

[topaz veldt]

I don't know

[wraith steeple]

Coolants

[topaz veldt]

i still just try and find ekwb clear

[livid flame]

Dunno why that would annoy you. You kinda need coolant.

[wraith steeple]

Oh nonno

[livid flame]

People wanting different colours?

[turbid locust]

did your FanControl not shit itself a day or so ago?

[wraith steeple]

What I mean is folks refusing to use premix coolants

[topaz veldt]

ya i posted about it

[teal orbit]

Sounds like the water pressure is too high if its capable of propelling you up along a wall

[topaz veldt]

you should only use premix, honestly

[devout ridge]

tap water and iodine gets the job done

[wraith steeple]

That's what I'm saying, I've been saying this for years

[turbid locust]

https://music.apple.com/us/album/f-c-p-r-e-m-i-x/493682591?i=493682601

banger

[livid flame]

No no no. You see you can save 20% and fuck it up royally instead of using premix

[devout ridge]

or the people that mix different premixes

[topaz veldt]

I used to do distilled + biocide + silver fittings, and yeah like... it worked, but it was things I had to do and think about and now I don't

[wraith steeple]

Premix coolants are the cheapest thing you can buy for a loop 9.5 times out of 10

[devout ridge]

do silver fittings even make a difference

[pure garnet]

i thought people just used distilled water honestly

[devout ridge]

if you wanna grow things in your loop, sure

[topaz veldt]

yes

[edgy laurel]

remember dropping one of these in the res

[topaz veldt]

I just went fittings

[wraith steeple]

In the early days yes...... But nowadays the premix bottles do the job for you

[frank zealot]

distilled water is only distilled until it's exposed to air.

Then shit gets into it, and it's no longer clean.

[frank zealot]

coil kill?

[edgy laurel]

kill coil lol, yes

[topaz veldt]

yeah the silver coil was just hard to find/get out - doing actual silver fittings was easier

[devout ridge]

what i really dislike is opaque coolants

they always just gunk stuff up

[topaz veldt]

yeah I only run clear now

[teal orbit]

monster energy coolant

[frank zealot]

https://www.primochill.com/products/primochill-anti-microbial-silver-coil
15 bucks now

[topaz veldt]

no dyes at all

[strange ginkgo]

👀 I'm using disstilled water in my loop right now

[devout ridge]

clear coolant, then colored tubes if you really want a colored look

[edgy laurel]

my only personal custom loop was that and distilled water. shit was crystal clear after a year. sold the system after that

[wraith steeple]

I did DW with Mayhems Hades+ and inhibitor+ for a bit and folks often forget how strong that shit is. Even Mick advised people to be careful with these. It's why Mayhems includes pH testers

And you can buy 2 or 3 bottles of premix for how much the additives cost

[topaz veldt]

EK clear is like $20

[edgy laurel]

wut

[wraith steeple]

Mayhems is now charging those additives about $15 each (so $30 for the bundle)

Inhibitor+ and Hades+

TL;DR: if you can afford all these rads, blocks, fittings, etc.... you can afford proper coolants

Coolants (I sound like a broken record, I know) are like the cheapest thing you can buy for a loop

[frank zealot]

I'll just get my girlfriend to make me a kill coil for my loop.

(She makes jewelery out of silver and similar metals)

[pure garnet]

didn’t someone watercool a pc with river water

[frank zealot]

with a pond

[topaz veldt]

god I hope so

My old old house had a spring house on it

[frank zealot]

DIY Perks

[topaz veldt]

At all times the water in the spring house was like 60F

[frank zealot]

but he has budgets that normal humans don't have for doing bizarre projects

[topaz veldt]

If I lived there today I'd do a water/water heat exchanger

[frank zealot]

https://youtu.be/yFswDJPvtPY?si=grxMULHdMijQvvJ_

[edgy laurel]

case in point

[livid flame]

That’s a big phone

[frank zealot]

but honestly, part of me still wants to do this:
https://youtu.be/YfvTjQ9MCwY?si=n2DPOprAkyAN3EJN

[edgy laurel]

I have a problem with him for something very silly

i don't like all the raw metal, specifically brass

[frank zealot]

I know people who can't listen to him because of his voice.

Some people really hate his accent.

[edgy laurel]

stuff comes out with this weird steampunky look that I don't dig sometimes

[livid flame]

Is it worse than Thor?

Would it help if he put +100db of bass on his microphone like Thor?

[frank zealot]

but then he does something bonkers cool like this:

[wise bear]

SHES COMIN' BOYS

[livid flame]

That looks horrific. What is it? A pirates server for their boat?

[wise bear]

no its just a styled pc you nincompoop

[frank zealot]

I question your tastes if you consider that horrific

[livid flame]

Hopefully your mum is in to sign it for you 😉

[wise bear]

My mother is dead.

[livid flame]

Would be a cool coffee machine

Not a PC

Dad then I guess.

[frank zealot]

have you considered quitting while you're behind already?

or do you enjoy eating your kneecaps?

[wise bear]

Dude I'm 30 chill tf out

[livid flame]

I guess don’t call someone a ninconpoop or whatever

[wise bear]

shut it, you delapitated dingleberry

[frank zealot]

sure thing, walnut

[wise bear]

you are but a smear on my toilet paper

[livid flame]

Good thing women don’t poop

[wise bear]

are you quite literally 12

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-what-gif-3377253578893161957

[frank zealot]

being generous

[livid flame]

Do you have a sense of humour or are you always menstruating?

[wise bear]

Sorry, I tend to not like stupid people

[frank zealot]

if this is your idea of humor?
You need to work on that

[wise bear]

lookieeeee :3

[livid flame]

Uhuh. I see. I guess I will just put you on mute. I have no issue with anyone then you come in with an attitude like a German chancellor from 1930

[young void]

50inch at 120hz is noiceee 1080/240hz for some titles is also solids

[wise bear]

right??? that and a 5070ti is gonna run like butter for the shit i play

[frank zealot]

I'd say to mod fallout for higher FPS, but that tends to break shit

[wise bear]

I'm sitting like 3' from it im not setting it to 1080p

[frank zealot]

1080 240 is for couch co-op games with controllers

[wise bear]

wake up, blow $2k, no biggie

[young void]

[young void]

Candy crush has never been so extravagant lol

[frank zealot]

@edgy laurel
My OLED TV shat the bed saturday night.

We were watching some streaming, and suddenly a green line appears on the screen, and then it just no longer turns on

[wise bear]

NOOOOOO

[whole coral]

^^

[frank zealot]

got a warranty call in, and they're coming out Friday

[wise bear]

do the hood taps

[frank zealot]

I tried that, didn't help

[wise bear]

😔

[frank zealot]

if nothing else, I have a manuf warranty, AND the best buy one on top of that

[wraith steeple]

I often use either Aquacomputer DP Ultra, Mayhems X1/XT-1, or Koolance 702/705 (basically whatever happens to be in stock of these three brands mostly) though honestly any clear from known brand is perfectly fine as well I'm just a bit fussy

[frank zealot]

but, since the TV had 3600 hours of runtime before I got it, getting the panel, or entire unit, replaced will be a nice update

[wise bear]

3600 goddamn

[frank zealot]

BB open box

[wise bear]

Oh that'll do it

[frank zealot]

there was absolutely burn in I could see

[edgy laurel]

if you get a new panel out of that, sick

[frank zealot]

the panel doesn't turn on anymore

so that'd be the minimum they need to do to fix it

[wise bear]

I wish it to be wednesday already pls & thank

[frank zealot]

the electronics do turn on, since turning on the TV turns on the soundbar in e-arc

[wise bear]

oh shit even the scalers dead

maybe the internal psu shat the bed?

[slim solstice]

I had the same problem with my tv

[frank zealot]

no, I'm pretty sure it's just the panel

[slim solstice]

The backlights most prob cooked

[wise bear]

its oled

[slim solstice]

How old?

[frank zealot]

it's not the backlight

[slim solstice]

Oh

What if it's a short or smtn

[frank zealot]

I got it in june, but it was open box so it had a metric fuckton of hours

[slim solstice]

Ur panels dead or something shorted or something with ur ribbon cable

[frank zealot]

or you're just throwing darts at a wall at this point

regardless, I'm not fixing it: I'm having someone come out to fix it

that's what the warranty is for

[serene sonnet]

Ordered a cheap untested z390 board for my server last week, as I kinda figured it doesn't power on, soo that's unfortunate

[steel stream]

amen

[edgy laurel]

My C2 still kicking at 12k hours

zero burn in that I can discern

checked with this every 1000 hours or so https://youtu.be/hASLTT4HwBc?si=iSvgq31ItwJPJOri

[steel stream]

pink

yeah all my OLED screens are good so far, I sadly can't see hours on my laptop

[edgy laurel]

the thumbnail is, not the test. cycles through all colors and shades

[shell void]

my 13pm is my only burned oled and i don’t see it most of the time

[steel stream]

don't you have Tik Tok burned into your phone

[shell void]

yeah and the ios keyboard

[steel stream]

nice

[shell void]

and the time and wifi symbol and battery logo

[steel stream]

those I am not surprised about

[wise bear]

You know what I am surprised about?

Walmart brand macaroni salad is actually pretty decent

[brisk jolt]

eat the radioactive shrimp from walmart

[merry stirrup]

yes

[wise bear]

FLOPPA

[merry stirrup]

cesium shrimp

[wise bear]

floppa its ordered

[steel stream]

it's good for you

[merry stirrup]

yippie

[wise bear]

tomorrow I shall own a shiny new gpu

[merry stirrup]

we'll have the same card mine will just draw double the power conveniently

[wise bear]

based newegg having the asus card at msrp

[brisk jolt]

whatcha got

[wise bear]

5070ti

[merry stirrup]

5070ti

[brisk jolt]

damn shes getting 2 5070tis

[merry stirrup]

yes

[wise bear]

*she

[brisk jolt]

i put the hes on instinct xd

[steel stream]

don't forget you also have Macs signature

[wise bear]

yee i ordered a new psu & a 2tb ssd to go w/ it

• a tv

[steel stream]

the holy 5070 Ti

[brisk jolt]

so we shall have 3 5070ti havers here

[steel stream]

balling out

how much was the TV?

[merry stirrup]

and then we'll go to 5090s

[steel stream]

there is no we

[brisk jolt]

6090s*

[wise bear]

amazon.com/dp/B09VCZCR1W?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

[pure garnet]

i can start to see some burn in on a tester on my 15 but it’s not bad

[steel stream]

ok solid

[pure garnet]

my 12pm had a noticeably cooked in home bar though

[merry stirrup]

true ts is powerful

[merry stirrup]

check your mailbox

[merry stirrup]

old news

[steel stream]

It's christmas!!!!!!!

[wise bear]

no we, only oui

[merry stirrup]

🤯

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pipe-bomb-gif-11987700991386067050

[merry stirrup]

LMAO

[wise bear]

omg free pipebomb :DDDD

[merry stirrup]

bonus points if you know the game its from

that model anyways

[pure garnet]

my eyes have built in fsr so my tv being 1080p doesn’t bother me

[merry stirrup]

does built in FSR mean youre just blind

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[pure garnet]

yeah i need glasses but i dont wear them around the house

[frank zealot]

@edgy laurel
https://youtu.be/uriqeyx9t-o?si=Xs3ngshafV3zp9LT

Transmission fluid for a loop you say?

[merry stirrup]

oh okay i guess thats cool ig no need for anti aliasing

[edgy laurel]

I wonder how many 1080p users are out there playing games on FSR Performance

[merry stirrup]

a large amount

[steel stream]

ignorance is bliss

[edgy laurel]

sounds like someone was out of video ideas

[pure garnet]

my tv actually has decent input latency but trying to play things is hard so i don’t usually

[frank zealot]

He set new records on 2 gpu's

[wraith steeple]

He posted this in OC channel here too

[merry stirrup]

not ln2 records

[pure garnet]

yeah he’s in the server

#overclocking message

[merry stirrup]

he set 2 hw records this isnt that impressive

i do this on almost everything i own without exotic cooling methods

[frank zealot]

So instead of mineral oil, you could use Transmission fluid

[spare valve]

best time to buy a used gpu, in terms of time of the year

[merry stirrup]

the time you have enough money to buy the graphics card you want

[frank zealot]

Doesn't exist

[pure garnet]

when you need one

before launch of a new card is possibly good but it’s just gambling

[spare valve]

so no need to wait?

[pure garnet]

we’re not due for new gpus for at least a year

the market won’t change much

[frank zealot]

There's no way to predict what will happen

[frank zealot]

This Christmas we're getting rtx Supers

[spare valve]

i can afford one right now looking at a used 7800xt or should i wait for cyber monday or whatever to get like a 5070/ti for cheap

[merry stirrup]

5070ti for sure

but theres no telling the 5070ti will be cheap during that

[devout ridge]

GPUs usually don’t go on sale during cyber monday

[merry stirrup]

do you get what we mean?

[devout ridge]

pc parts in general don’t really

[frank zealot]

You are unlikely to see a 5070 TI for under 700 even on black Friday

[merry stirrup]

a used 7800xt is like 400, maybe 500. you will NOT get a new 5070ti for that price ever

[pure garnet]

unless the internet review sphere hates it

[frank zealot]

Maybe in 4 years

[spare valve]

yeah im looking to spend more on my cpu 7800x3d as i play 1440p but mostly esport titles so i will benefit more from a better cpu

[pure garnet]

then you get deals like cheap 14th gen/lga1851 bundles

[frank zealot]

No

[merry stirrup]

you dont need more fps if youre already getting 300 lol

[spare valve]

anything in the same price range that is better?>

[frank zealot]

Spend more on gpu than cpu

[spare valve]

i dont get 300 with a 5600 and 4060 ti

[merry stirrup]

buy a 9600x

[wise bear]

buy a burger

[merry stirrup]

and a 5070ti

instead of a 7800x3d and a 7800xt

[spare valve]

thats more money isnt it

[frank zealot]

7700x or 9700x are better than a x3d chip unless you have a 5080+

[topaz veldt]

what'd you get

[merry stirrup]

i think its like a 50$ difference

[spare valve]

how?

[wise bear]

5070ti

[brisk jolt]

buy a sf1000

[topaz veldt]

i have one, its nice

[wise bear]

It's gonna be such a perf bump over my 2080ti

[frank zealot]

Because the cpu spits more frames than the gpu can handle

[pure garnet]

that’s more than a bump

[merry stirrup]

because the non X3D's dont hold back the GPU equivalent of a 9060xt at 1440p lol

[spare valve]

in cpu intensive games it does right

[pure garnet]

if you’re not buying a super high end card you’re better off with a cheaper cpu

[frank zealot]

Not really

[brisk jolt]

no

[merry stirrup]

it just depends on th e game and performance desired

[brisk jolt]

how amusing a 9700x is more expensive than a 7800x3d here in SGP

[frank zealot]

What games do you consider cpu intensive

[spare valve]

fortnite,r6,valorant,cs

[merry stirrup]

none of those are intensive

all of those run at over 300FPS on modern computers

[pure garnet]

x3d+5060 is unironically a reasonable combo for wow

[merry stirrup]

none of those need X3D for you to reach your max potential

[brisk jolt]

gang they all run on potatos

[spare valve]

not with a 5600 and 4060ti!!!

[devout ridge]

not being gpu intensive doesn’t mean it’s cpu intensive

[merry stirrup]

😭

[brisk jolt]

my balls can get 100 fps in those games

[frank zealot]

You don't know what intensive means apparently

[brisk jolt]

rel

[frank zealot]

How many fps do you get now

[merry stirrup]

i legitimately got 300+ frames on an 11700k in valorant theres no way you have performance issues in any of those games

[pure garnet]

i’m pretty sure val gets esport ready fps on a business laptop at this point

[brisk jolt]

ur grandma can probably run valorant

[merry stirrup]

whats your monitor?

[spare valve]

in fortnite around 260ish but drops down to around 180 very easily

[pure garnet]

i’d believe fortnite in non performance mode running poorly though

[spare valve]

240hz 1080p going to 240hz 1440p

[frank zealot]

.... okay and that's holding you back?

[merry stirrup]

do not buy x3d

[spare valve]

no but i just want better performance and also my current build sucks

[brisk jolt]

a X3D chip is useless for ur caliber

[frank zealot]

It really doesn't actually

[merry stirrup]

you will see 0 benefit

the only thing that sucks is the am4 part

and the 5600 is at least passable

[brisk jolt]

an X3D is gonna give you like 2 quadrillion FPS which is money wasted lmao

[spare valve]

how, my ram and motherboard and memory is very old i cant upgrade anything now might aswell get a new pc

[merry stirrup]

this guy hates saving his money

[frank zealot]

You want more numbers for the sake of numbers. It has nothing to do with actually running things better

[merry stirrup]

holy balls lmao

[pure garnet]

this reminds me of when i psu swapped a friends prebuilt because “they cheap out on those”

[brisk jolt]

he is full buying every round in valorant and CS

0 eco rounds

[floral spear]

Sounds to me like this is a #tech-chat-1 problem considering the amount of copium and mental gymnastics he's doing just to upgrade his PC

[pure garnet]

brother needs to watch the war owl economy video

[spare valve]

so what? im asking for advice its my money

[merry stirrup]

seriously like theres no reason where your cpu comes close to your gpu in pricing unless you have the serious racks for a computer/budget isnt really a concern

[merry stirrup]

we gave you the advice you are the one not taking it

[edgy laurel]

Elian alt

[merry stirrup]

if you dont like our advice you are free to go on your own shawty

[brisk jolt]

you dont have a 480hz monitor you dont need X3D

[spare valve]

im just weiging out options and comparing

[frank zealot]

You ask for advice then ignore good advice

[pure garnet]

i wonder how many messages he sees in tc2 at this point

[merry stirrup]

we gave you the options

[frank zealot]

You buying an x3d and a 7800 tier gpu is wasting money

[spare valve]

and what about the 7500f? or is that a little too weak

[pure garnet]

block half the server then continue to talk about mcdonald’s ice cream into the void

[merry stirrup]

perfectly fine

[edgy laurel]

none, i hope

[pure garnet]

that’s hardly an upgrade

[frank cypress]

average person who asks for advice here tbh

[merry stirrup]

from a 5600? its like 30% lol

[brisk jolt]

its good enough for 240hz in those games

[merry stirrup]

same as going to a 5800x3d

[pure garnet]

wait are we going from a 4060ti to a 7800xt

[merry stirrup]

oh i thought you were talking about the cpu, yes. thats his plan

[spare valve]

i was looking at 4070 super aswel

[merry stirrup]

also bad

[floral spear]

Can I just ask what he's playing to be upgrading from 1080p to 1440p?

[merry stirrup]

dude do not buy x3d and just get a good 6 core am5 chip and a 5070ti or 5070

[floral spear]

Hey don't say that I have a 4070 super :(

[pure garnet]

i stand corrected on the 7500f i guess but this entire plan sounds awful

[spare valve]

watching content, rdr2, fortnite,r6 and some cs

[brisk jolt]

every game that does not justify a X3D chip with his setup

[spare valve]

5070 super when its out?

[floral spear]

Sounds like a 1080 type thing to me

[devout ridge]

impossible to say

[merry stirrup]

^

[devout ridge]

we have zero specs or pricing for it

[merry stirrup]

if its 600$ and has 18gb vram its a hit

[spare valve]

no, 1440p is just better to look at wtf

[merry stirrup]

it wont be 600$ tho so who knows

[spare valve]

so whats a good gpu now either used or new idc

[frank zealot]

guesses are xmas-feb/march timeframe

[floral spear]

Not really

[pure garnet]

huh

[merry stirrup]

ive said, alone, 3 times, the couple of options i recommend

5070 or 5070ti without an x3d chip cause thats a waste of money

9070/xt is also fine

[spare valve]

now i have a 240hz va slow gtg monitor and 1080p why would i go for 1080p again? especially at 27 inch its just bad

[wise bear]

go 4k dude

[floral spear]

Sounds like you made a bad financial decision and you want to make it again

[spare valve]

why?

[frank zealot]

it doesn't sound like you have the money to replace everything at once.

Do part of it really well, and then upgrade more later.

Don't half-ass multiple ugprades at once

[pure garnet]

just get a nice monitor now

[floral spear]

Why would you spend money on a 240hz VA "slow gtg" monitor

[pure garnet]

you don’t need an x3d for 1440p fortnite

[spare valve]

3 years ago

[frank zealot]

What monitor is it? I question how slow a 240hz monitor can be

[pure garnet]

why would you care about the gtg marketing anyway

[spare valve]

is 260 euros a good price for a monitor 1440p 260hz?

[frank zealot]

sigh
That's not a question that can be answered

[floral spear]

He's dodging the question

[merry stirrup]

is it a good monitor? it depends

[spare valve]

well i cant really replace my pc its just too outdated, am4 slow ram 500gb ssd

[frank zealot]

it might be good, or it might be terrible

[frank zealot]

facepalm

[merry stirrup]

you cant replace your computer but you can upgrade your computer to a new computer

[floral spear]

3 years ago you could've gotten a HyperX Armada a decent 240hz, an AOC 24G2ZE all for playing comp games

[spare valve]

exactly thats waht im trying to do now

[merry stirrup]

youre not supposed to agree with me

[pure garnet]

i think homie just wants to buy things

[merry stirrup]

slow down, read whats being said to you and dont take it so personal so you actually get the overall point of what were trying to tell you

nobody here is mad at you were just confused at the impeccably stupid route youve chosen to take blindly while making up your reasoning as you go

[spare valve]

i just want to upgrade to future proof, im also getting into singleplayer games so whats wrong if i have the money for a better setup?

[floral spear]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't AM4 CPUs cheap now and still manageable for a few years?

[merry stirrup]

there is no such thing as future proof

[frank zealot]

First off:

List out what your computer is now.
Everything, with parts.

[frank zealot]

future proof doesn't exist

[merry stirrup]

for what hes planning to do, am4 is long in the tooth

[spare valve]

alr 2 minutes

[pure garnet]

yeah cheap 5000x3d route is long gone