#tech-chat-2

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brisk jolt
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lowk i might fold for the 007 game next year with a super card if its bundled

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007
0 Kills
0 Deaths
7 Times saved by plot armour

strange ginkgo
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this looks so wrong

verbal orchid
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Can they just make gpus bru

fervent elm
sharp phoenix
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So ever since I plugged my PC into the UPS (Battery side BTW) a few weeks ago or so, it's randomly shut down not once but twice. Is it just my PSU being fucky wucky? Cuz it's literally never been a problem until now. Also the 1 time before it also randomly shut down, but that I'm more convinced was a general power outage since I didn't have the UPS then

cloud vigil
fervent elm
frosty prism
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Das cxl

hollow path
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to test if a noise is coming from my gpu is just unplugging it from the psu enough or do I have to remove the whole thing

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I'm testing which of my components are making a coil whine sound and it could be the mobo or psu

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or gpu

edgy laurel
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you just use your ears

hollow path
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im suspecting the gpu the most

hollow path
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sounds like a faulty or bad bearing

minor herald
strange ginkgo
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I'm trying to make them into a raid but windows refuses to do that with the external drives

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so far nothing i tried worked

wraith steeple
green marsh
strange ginkgo
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storage spaces also refused to to it

green marsh
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yeah, then you can forget windows for this task

strange ginkgo
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mmh but i have to deal with files that are larger than one of the drives...

green marsh
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yeah, then time to set up another computer as NAS based on Linux

strange ginkgo
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if i had another PC available then i could install them internally and windows would also work again

slim solstice
slim solstice
strange ginkgo
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there is no nas

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just USB

verbal orchid
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yo do u guys think i should get those wall panel things

strange ginkgo
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what wall panel things?

verbal orchid
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imma send a pic

slim solstice
verbal orchid
verbal orchid
slim solstice
verbal orchid
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ye ik

slim solstice
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These look like decorative wall panels

verbal orchid
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its for looks

slim solstice
verbal orchid
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just for my setup wall area imma send a pic

strange ginkgo
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i don't like how they look. i wouldn't get them for my room. there must be a cheaper way that looks better

verbal orchid
slim solstice
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I think a darker colour would look good at dark

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Like walnut

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Like whatever fits your room best

verbal orchid
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yuh

slim solstice
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If your desk is dark and your entire pc is Black i would get black

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Setup*

verbal orchid
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or maybe another typa panel but ye prolly sumn dark

slim solstice
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From my pov everything looks black so

verbal orchid
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ye it is

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even my bed is black

fringe vigil
verbal orchid
fringe vigil
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Which one

verbal orchid
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ahh

fringe vigil
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What brand

verbal orchid
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the mouse is razer viper v3 pro and the kb is aula f75 pro

fringe vigil
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Ooo is it expensive

verbal orchid
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the mouse is but the keyboard isnt as much

fringe vigil
verbal orchid
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idk what that is leme see

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ahh

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idk i can send a vid of the sound

edgy laurel
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i don't know what "better" means for a mouse

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or a keyboard, whatever

verbal orchid
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his prolly performs better but mine prolly sounds better

edgy laurel
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performs..?

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its a keyboard

heavy mantle
edgy laurel
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i'm being an ass, the point is general terms like "better" with no qualifications makes no sense.

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better how?

verbal orchid
brisk jolt
verbal orchid
brisk jolt
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yes

steel stream
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Oh shit I did not realize Indiana Jones DLC is out

brisk jolt
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mfw theres a dlc

steel stream
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wait I don't think it's on gamepass

brisk jolt
steel stream
brisk jolt
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i got the base game for free

steel stream
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stupid Xbox

steel stream
brisk jolt
# steel stream how

i bought a 4070 super with the game and I sold the card for the same price I bought it during the shortage

steel stream
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ah

brisk jolt
fringe vigil
verbal orchid
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i sent a vid

verbal orchid
brisk jolt
fringe vigil
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That’s loud buddy

brisk jolt
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i think mines louder xd

fringe vigil
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Why people like loud

brisk jolt
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i have a silent kb

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but my 80he is clacky

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GT80 case with geon raw switches

fringe vigil
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I need silent stealth

brisk jolt
brisk jolt
# wraith steeple https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-vietnam-robin-williams-classic-announcer-rad...

Good morning Night City!
Yesterday's body count lottery rounded out to a solid 'n' sturdy thirty! Ten outta Heywood - thanks to the unabated gang wars! One officer down, so I guess you are all screwed. 'Cause the NCPD will not let that go. Got another blackout in Santo Domingo. Netrunners are at it again, pokin' holes in the power grid. While over in Westbrook, Trauma Team's scrapin' cyberpsycho victims off the pavement. And in Pacifica... Well... Pacifica is still Pacifica.

This has been your man, Stan. Join me in another day in our City of Bugs!

shell void
wraith steeple
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وعليكم السلام رحمه الله ياخي

shell void
verbal orchid
brisk jolt
verbal orchid
brisk jolt
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the best mouse my ass

verbal orchid
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nah

brisk jolt
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cheapass plastic

verbal orchid
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look it up

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it has the best materials and coating

brisk jolt
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im not gonna fill my search history with “razer” in it

verbal orchid
brisk jolt
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u said look it up KEKW

verbal orchid
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ur the one saying its ass without knowing anything abt it

brisk jolt
verbal orchid
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aight boss

wise bear
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razer sucks btw

brisk jolt
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razer sucks balls btw

pure garnet
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i like my viper but synapse is garbage

brisk jolt
shell void
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synapse is annoying but the viper v3 pro is an elite mouse

pure garnet
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the last time i left it installed it bricked my scroll wheel until i reinstalled synapse 3

wraith steeple
verbal orchid
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idk how u guys have issues with it

pure garnet
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probably because every manufacturer’s software sucks

verbal orchid
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tbh tho i dont use synapse for anything

wraith steeple
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SignalRGB has given me the least amount of headaches in terms of RGB software

verbal orchid
wraith steeple
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Yes iCue is dog water

verbal orchid
verbal orchid
pure garnet
frank zealot
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Jesus, this is the nichest of niche that I've seen in years....

hoary hatch
tepid copper
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“Testing”

green marsh
green marsh
# hoary hatch Omelette

i will never understand people eating mushrooms (and fish). Both of those smell horribly (to me)

delicate slate
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i bought new asus monitor but the computer wont recognize what im using and i cant change resolution or display rate, when it was working before and now i cant get it going. i think the display port also isnt working only hdmi

shell void
fringe vigil
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hi

pure garnet
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how is silksong jorj

fringe vigil
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Amazing bro

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I wanna play more rn but I can’t

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Some people already finished the game bruh

pure garnet
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i’ve only beat 2 bosses so far i gotta lock in

fringe vigil
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Bell beast and moss mother??

pure garnet
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yea

fringe vigil
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Yhh

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Wait till you fight that lil bish

devout ridge
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i've beaten like 6/7 bosses

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but now i'm stuck

fringe vigil
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Which area

devout ridge
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||greymoore|| rn (ss spoilers)

fringe vigil
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Yeah I’m not there yet

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I’m at deep docks I think

pure garnet
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i know 1 person in act 2 but idk what zones those are

fringe vigil
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I’m in act 1 but I’m playing slow and trying to explore everything and complete quests

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I found fragments

devout ridge
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Yeah i'm still in act 1 as well

fringe vigil
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Hunters march was such a mf

pure garnet
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i never played the first so i’m just progressing slow in general

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i’m like 3h into the game

pallid cairn
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i just got into act 2, already 10.7h playtime 🙏

tepid copper
fringe vigil
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Don’t forget to save the fleas

pallid cairn
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why would i not save them

fringe vigil
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Cus you’re heartless

brisk jolt
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shall i play the first one first

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aka another collection to the library KEKW

pure garnet
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zotac 5090 in stock for 2k

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the pipeline calls

willow ruin
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Following up on my 5900x temps issue from the other night - what's with this spike to 80c when all I'm doing is YouTube and browsing? Idling at 65c right now (still too high, ambient temp is much better today though), but it just jumps up out of nowhere! Those last two spikes happened while I was typing this, YouTube paused, nothing really going on.

pure garnet
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something is running

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90w for youtube is insane

gentle urchin
green marsh
shell void
willow ruin
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I can definitely play with fan curve, but this PC has performed perfectly since early 2021 when I built it. Overheated CPU 40~ days ago, replaced thermal paste for first time in 5 years, turned it on again, assumed fixed, but first heavy load overheated again.

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And it's like 60F right now in here, and I'm idling at 65-70C

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Which is WAY too high for nothing going on

shell void
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youre at 95W

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your temperatures for that wattage are normal

green marsh
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you can always try to do clean install and/or linux live USB, to check if it is not a random crypto miner addon running in your browser

shell void
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the problem is that your second CCD isnt idling

pure garnet
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yeah the problem is your chip isn't idling properly

willow ruin
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It doesn't ever leave that, 1.4v~ constantly

shell void
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are you using the balanced windows power plan?

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and do you have the latest chipset drivers installed

willow ruin
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Yes, balanced

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Everything latest, bios, chipset, everything

shell void
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weird

green marsh
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are you sure you aren't running some malware ?

willow ruin
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Not 100%, but I'm a programmer, know my way around Windows well, and would be quite surprised.

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I'll try that Linux route, that's a good idea

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I'm also going to reseat the cooler, but I'm not convinced that's the issue, and it's a pain with all my wiring and desk setup, so avoiding that for now haha

pure garnet
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i doubt it's the cooler

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you're just sitting at 100w so it's not gonna be 30c

willow ruin
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(XMP was diabled from BIOS update, I fixed it)

shell void
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yeah those temps seem totally normal for a 5900x at 95w

pure garnet
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like obviously they're different platforms but firefox is using like 20w on my chip

shell void
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the problem is that you’re at 95w in low load which isn’t ideal

willow ruin
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When I game, I'm hitting high 80's

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And overheating

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Helldivers 2, 1440p, 5900x, 3080FE, etc

shell void
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high 80s in the 1.4v range is not unexpected

gentle urchin
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1.337v is always optimal

willow ruin
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Do Windows power plans take effect immediately, or require restart?

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Tried changing it to power saved to see if I can idle the cores.

shell void
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immediate

willow ruin
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Power saving is still hitting 1.45v~

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Temps are staying the same

vestal granite
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occasionally windows will just lose connection to my network even though ethernet is plugged in (and no other device is affected) so I usually had to restart my PC but i didnt want to restart my PC this time and I am happy to announce that disabling my network driver/device and re-enabling it in device manager fixes the problem

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i can safely ignore this problem for a much longer time now

spare tinsel
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i used to have that problem too
although it was a cable issue i think for me
kinda bizarre since it just randomly shows up and disappears

steel stream
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I need a 5090 for Indiana Jones full PT

shell void
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i just realized that dbrand posted their iphone 17 lineup cases early

brisk jolt
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yeah they posted it yesterday

pure garnet
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i need to pickup a magic john switch 2 protector

shell void
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so the renders were spot on

brisk jolt
shell void
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im cool with that, it looks way nicer than the 16 pro

pure garnet
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that is so ulgy

shell void
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that's with the case on not the actual phone

arctic bronze
pure garnet
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maybe it'll look nicer in person

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but that camera bump looks Catuhh

pure grail
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isnt that how most high end phones look now

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cuz u need big fat multi camera to be good

shell void
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i think it's a dramatic upgrade from the 16pm

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the one corner bulging camera design that we've had for years does not look good

pure grail
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i know people use xtra thic cases that made it level with the rest of the back

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probably not too common

shell void
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yeah that’s way nicer looking it’s not even close

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having a clustered bump in one corner is unsightly

willow ruin
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So I rebooted, everything still looks the same.
I went into the plan options (reset to default to be sure), and set the CPU max to 50%, immediately saw the CPU core Voltage drop to 1.0v~ and temps go down.

pure grail
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now its running at 1.8ghz lmoa

willow ruin
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So cooler IS mounted properly 100%

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Yeah >.<

shell void
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do minimum 0% and maximum 100%

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this could be peak

gentle urchin
pure grail
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processor state setting is weird
on my laptop setting it even at 99% itll run it at like 2ghz less than my max

willow ruin
pure garnet
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what's with copyright distinct mario in the listing

brisk jolt
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thats not mario that oiram

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idk what ur sayin man

pure grail
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its obv morio

vestal granite
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thats not mario thats Chris

pale grove
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it's jonathan

vestal granite
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joshua

brisk jolt
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no bro thats tinytron

slim solstice
slim solstice
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New vid? Why was I not noticed? Are we putting the MAJORANA 1 in it?

willow ruin
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Am I correct in that playing a game should use more cores, and reduce the 1.4v on other cores?
I really just want to get back to a place where this PC doesn't pass 85C when gaming. CPU isn't overclocked, Dark Rock Pro 4 is more than enough for it, 7 fans on this case, GPU is cool, etc - it doesn't add up.

slim solstice
willow ruin
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Right now, yeah. but when I DO game, those temps are getting way too high.

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I wouldn't know, but wouldn't be at the top of my list.

steel stream
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what game is this

willow ruin
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Anything. I just booted up Tetris Effect, and I'm at 70C on the menu.

slim solstice
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What if it's not enough paste, forgot to remove the plastic, your cooler is not tight enough, or your pc just can't breathe

willow ruin
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Hell Divers 2 after about 1.5 hours shut down my PC from overheat

slim solstice
willow ruin
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4 year old PC, repasted just a few weeks ago, after first overheating

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Hadn't been repasted in 4.5 years, has been now

slim solstice
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It's the old effect

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Never knew it happened to pc this new

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Wait does Fortnite overheat?

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Did you clear your cache?

willow ruin
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Other than that thermal paste neglect (not even, I got a warning, replaced right off), this PC has been very very well maintained.

slim solstice
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Is microsoft teams in the background?

willow ruin
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I don't allow such trash on my PC

slim solstice
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Have you cleaned your uh cookies?

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Your pc just might be overloaded with cookies

willow ruin
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I even flushed the DNS cache resolver!

slim solstice
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Definitely the old effect

willow ruin
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Alright, way too off script

slim solstice
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Do you have a fast usb or a sad laying around

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Ssd

willow ruin
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I'm going to make a Linux boot later and test some stuff

slim solstice
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Cuz then you can put a fresh copy of windows/windows to go

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On it and check if your install is fucked up or something else

shell void
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the chiller keeps the cpu at -90c 24/7, and they have a god sample 14900k to play with in the next video

gentle urchin
willow ruin
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This is after 1 game (10 min~) of Tetris Effect, 1440p, with power saving plan set to 0% min 100% max.

CPU mad-ish, GPU chillin

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Windows open, room is kind of chilly at about 15C

green marsh
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and in the end we will find out that there is some docker container or oracle database running in the background /s

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what is in the task manager using CPU ?

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cause something is clearly using the CPU

devout ridge
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“idk why my idle temp is so high, oh also btw im folding proteins in the background”

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“oh i have cinebench running on loop”

willow ruin
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Yeah no, none of that nonesense. The only web dev I've done in years is Local, no VM, nothing.

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Oddly, I just played a few more rounds, temps lowered to around 72 from 78, I don't know what's going on.

green marsh
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again, look at task manager what is using CPU

willow ruin
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Same as always, tiny bit from VoiceMeter, very tiny bit from SignalRGB / Spotify / Discord, and now the game itself is using 15%, but that's all of significance.

green marsh
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because something is pushing your CPU to 100W

willow ruin
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It's sitting at 100W always, seemingly.

green marsh
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maybe you enabled PBO in BIOS ?

willow ruin
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It's set to AUTO at the moment, I left it all default after checking.

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I could try turning it off, could be a BIOS bug

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And there it is, first red temp

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Just on the menu, talking here, Spotify playing, that's NOT normal.

shell void
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does ryzen 5000 let you set a negative clockspeed offset in PBO?

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you can on AM5 but i dont know about AM4

willow ruin
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Temps were lower when I was mid-match, now that I'm on the menu (MASSIVE particle creation, possibly CPU generated over GPU?), but still. I even turned down the particle settings from highest months ago, just for streaming clarity.

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I think it has been suggested in articles I read, so likely.

green marsh
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but again, go to a live linux distro and check if the issue is present there too. To rule out your Windows install being the source of the issue

willow ruin
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Also, not sure if this is related, but I notice these spikes where my WIRED controller input doesn't work.

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Like the PC is having a .2 second stroke or something.

green marsh
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maybe you have a broken USB device which constantly connects/disconnects ?

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you just have to do the process of elimination, as it is usual with troubleshooting. Try minimum amount of hardware connected to system, so only keyboard & mouse & monitor. Is the issue still present ?
Try switching OS. Is the issue still present ?
and so on

willow ruin
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I've checked my USB situation thoroughly with softare, nothing happening there.

green marsh
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with software ? Literally disconnect everything manually.

willow ruin
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Oh I know, game dev background, fixed my fair share of bugs. I just can't lock down the behavior, and don't have all the tools I need at the moment to do so (Linux bootable, test machine, etc)

wispy field
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hi

shell void
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maybe -200MHz and -10 on Curve Optimizer

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should lower voltage and temps by a decent bit

turbid locust
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would a power limit not do better in that regard?

willow ruin
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It's definitely raising the temp when I'm idle, and lowering when I'm gaming, that's drunk

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Just played another match, that was immediately after.

green marsh
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you literally have 70-100W on CPU, you have something doing work on it. There is no way around it. Even if you don't see it in the task manager

turbid locust
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buddy installed crypto mining malware

shell void
willow ruin
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Can we cool it with the generic funnies? Not useful, and not applicable.

edgy laurel
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this is why i'm always going on about "idle". people don't know what idle means.

shell void
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dropping from 4.9 to 4.7 will not fucking nuke your performance

edgy laurel
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100W isn't idle

shell void
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for whatever reason his 5900x isnt parking cores correctly and it's sitting at like 1.45v and 100W with only 15% utilization

willow ruin
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For sure, the real quesiton is why the hell I'm always at 100W

edgy laurel
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software

turbid locust
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crypto mining malware

willow ruin
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Also VERY important to note, I've USED this PC for almost 5 years, every day, it's NOW acting up.

edgy laurel
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software comes and goes

willow ruin
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Only thing I've changed as of late, is VoiceMeter routing for my streaming setup

edgy laurel
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task manager is usually pretty good at telling you whats what in about 5 seconds

turbid locust
willow ruin
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And I've done tests with that off

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I fresh installed to Windows 11 about a year ago

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Like full wipe, nothing kept

edgy laurel
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just look at task manager...

turbid locust
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Guilty they did that

shell void
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gemfruit isnt an idiot guys xd

turbid locust
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There’s “nothing”

willow ruin
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What do you want to see? I have shard my task manager a lot

edgy laurel
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doubt it

willow ruin
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It's voice meter, SignalRBG, Discord, Spotify

edgy laurel
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anyway, enjoy

green marsh
edgy laurel
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the other day VM was sucking down processes at "idle"

willow ruin
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No live streams

edgy laurel
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and was clearly the culprit

shell void
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i dont think a 5900x should be stuck at 1.45v and 100w with only 15% utilization

pure garnet
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average pbo voltage

turbid locust
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Michael we both know util % in task manager does mean shit

willow ruin
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I have only recently turned nvidia broadcast back on, and have tested with it off.

turbid locust
willow ruin
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Would booting into safe mode help?

green marsh
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like right now my 9950x is at 14-30W CPU power and 17W SoC power. when i have just discord & hwinfo open

willow ruin
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I'm not trying to not listen to advice, just trying to avoid the low hanging fruit repeats.

shell void
# willow ruin

you were at 31% utilization and 105W in this one which is still wild

green marsh
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also hwinfo itself can cause the higher CPU load by querying it, have you tried how the system behaves when hwinfo is not running ?

shell void
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i dont think this is a case of some programs running in the background and him not seeing it

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his cpu is just putting out hella heat with low utilization for whatever reason

turbid locust
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a cpu doesn’t just arbitrarily decide to pull power

shell void
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i blame this

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a few active cores are running wayyyyy outside of the efficiency window and the rest arent parking correctly

green marsh
# shell void i blame this

that is literally wrong reading by hwinfo, they never had a good reading on this. That voltage changes few hundred times per second

turbid locust
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I need every startup app disabled, a hard restart, and then HWinfo opened after for an opinion pepoJuice

willow ruin
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Alright, I'm going to move this to an actual support topic, didn't expect it to go so deep. Thanks for the input, I'll document it all later.

hoary hatch
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They mostly smell like dirt

bronze mango
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Got to talk to a lot of the engineers at amd a couple days ago and they all seem like such real and inspirational people

hoary hatch
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Or at least the generic button/baby belle mushrooms

hoary hatch
bronze mango
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I'm gonna check if they have any summer or spring internships and apply if they're available

willow ruin
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Woah, MAYBE found something, never seen or heard of this.

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Dell Display and Peripheral manager
When I wiggle the mouse around in a figure 8, it jumps up to 3% and stays at the top of my CPU chart, temps raise about 5-10 degrees.

That has to be a bug, right?

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It's not even on the list until I move my mouse, didn't notice it

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It's a Logitech G502 Lightspeed, without Logitech's software running - SignalRGB handles it. I wonder if that's causing some kind of weird loop or conflict on mouse movement, which would explain why Hell Divers went hot AF (intense game AND constant mouse movement), where as Tetris I play entirely with my controller.

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Everythng else I've been playing is 2D (Slay the Spire), and / or wicked basic.

willow ruin
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Didn't move mouse

slim solstice
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I don't think voicemeeter uses a lot

willow ruin
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Moved mouse

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It's also indsutry leading software, this would be known.

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48C -> 65C literally from a figure 8 momvement with my mouse

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Those are 30 seconds apart

slim solstice
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Can you show us your taskmanager

wise bear
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4k path traced cursor movements lmao

willow ruin
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That Dell shit only appears as I'm moving the mouse

slim solstice
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I think the install is fucked up like on my oc

slim solstice
willow ruin
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My install of what specifically? That's an incredibly vague conclusion

slim solstice
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Your cpu persentage is low but your temps are high

wise bear
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i got a rock

green marsh
willow ruin
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This is not a Dell PC, it's custom built, I just have 2x Dell S2721DGF monitors

wise bear
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so uninstall the dell software

willow ruin
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That's the plan now that I'm seeing this, just thinking out loud.

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Trying not to change more than 1 variable at a time, as that'll lose what caused it.

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Again, chasing shit here, but that 7/9/2025 update aligns with my first overheat and thermal paste reapplication.

slim solstice
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When it's dell, im mostly always never wrong.

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Uninstall it.

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My first pc was a dell laptop when I was 3

slim solstice
# willow ruin

Why do you even need this, does it have kvm shit on it or sum?

willow ruin
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I shouldn't need it at all. The only reason I have it, is because of the two monitors - they have 4x USB ports on them, and I was having an issue where they would be pitch black VERY rarely, and require unplugging and plugging back in - their support had me grab that to fix, but it didn't, still happens time and again.

edgy laurel
shell void
#

it was a good ahh video

edgy laurel
#

you did that on purpose

shell void
#

im looking forward to seeing them test it out on the god sample 14900k

edgy laurel
#

na, 9995WX

green marsh
willow ruin
#

2x display port

willow ruin
#

hdmi to a TV that's rarely on

green marsh
#

Surprisingly, we have also seen this issue connected to gas lift office chairs. When people stand or sit on gas lift chairs, they can generate an EMI spike which is picked up on the video cables, causing a loss of sync. If you have users complaining about displays randomly flickering it could actually be connected to people sitting on gas lift chairs. Again swapping video cables, especially for ones with magnetic ferrite ring on the cable, can eliminate this problem. There is even a white paper about this issue.

gentle urchin
willow ruin
#

It doesn't flicker, it completely has no visual, not even the OSD

#

Requird unplugging and plugging back in, happens anywhere between 30-200 days.

#

After wake only

turbid locust
#

Nvidia GPUs are HDMI… a hellscape

#

I occasionally have to get under my desk and unplug and replug my C4 in because my gpu decided it wasn’t gonna display out to it today

slim solstice
#

Ok i need urgent help. My benq monitor refused to display a output on hdmi on any device or cable. It just says no signal or just freezes

wise bear
#

did you plug into your gpu

edgy laurel
#

sounds like they've tried multiple inputs

edgy laurel
#

Here are your choices. Ensure the display is set to the correct input. Factory reset via the OSD and repeat. If it still won't display anything, its dead.

turbid locust
#

or you just own an Nvidia gpu and it decided to not display out to a single HDMI today

edgy laurel
#

refused to display a output on hdmi on any device or cable.

I'm going to take this to mean multiple input devices and cables have been tried.

#

Isolating the issue to the display

turbid locust
#

Ah

edgy laurel
#

but who knows

turbid locust
#

unplug from wall and plug back in pepoJuice

#

“I need urgent help” doesn’t respond to replies

edgy laurel
#

typical

turbid locust
#

less than one week till BL4

#

just over a week till Skate

#

just over a month till BF6

#

I will actually enjoy gaming again for awhile lol

slim solstice
#

So I tried all of the above before this

#

It display via displayport almost all the things I use are hdmi so

#

I need it

#

And this happened after i connected my homemade speaker to my pi then to my monitor

#

@frosty prism

#

@turbid locust

pallid marsh
#

@everyone

slim solstice
#

Woah

#

You can do that?

#

Oh wait your staff?

pallid marsh
#

...

slim solstice
#

Idk bro

#

I need help but I got mutes

wise bear
#

You should really try google because you're not making any sense

slim solstice
#

I have integrated graphics on all devices

#

I have dp working

wise bear
#

sooo de-integrate them

slim solstice
#

That's expensive and I don't have the slots to do thet

wise bear
#

wym all you need is a saw

slim solstice
#

I think we should isolate it to the monitor

#

Cuz it works fine with a capture card on my phone

#

I think I burnt the resistors and chips dedicated to hdmi by my pi injecting that power

wise bear
#

you probably fried the scaler

slim solstice
#

Whats that and how much is it going to cost

#

Cuz I can get to the Bios on the pi

wise bear
#

its the board that controls your monitor and idk you'd have to search it

slim solstice
#

I can see the bios

wise bear
#

ok so wait now you can magically get to the pi's bios on the monitor what

slim solstice
#

Ya

slim solstice
#

The os does not want to connect to this thing

wise bear
#

dude idk

slim solstice
wise bear
#

ok so that's not how that works

turbid locust
#

12v straight to the port

merry stirrup
#

fuck

#

good morning chat

wise bear
#

hi flippy

turbid locust
#

make sure you download secure boot

merry stirrup
#

i fell asleep on my friends floor with no blanket no pillow no nothing

wise bear
#

what a vibe

merry stirrup
#

so it was a good night

wise bear
#

did you get sloshed

slim solstice
merry stirrup
#

allegedly

turbid locust
#

I didn’t get home till like 3:30am

wise bear
#

I think i passed out at like 1 am

merry stirrup
#

me neither pal

turbid locust
#

Went to a buddies birthday party, had a lot of fun

slim solstice
merry stirrup
#

we got home at 3:30 and started to fall asleep

turbid locust
#

We drank a bit and then I left, got Taco Bell, and went home

#

The Tbell was immaculate

wise bear
#

I think it was like 9 to 1 am a friend and I were just smoking weed and eating pizza

merry stirrup
#

cannot confirm nor deny the series of events

wise bear
#

dude taco bell is always delicious when you're not sober

merry stirrup
#

now i’m in his garage

slim solstice
turbid locust
#

I was basically sober but still lol

wise bear
#

now floppas locked in the closet

merry stirrup
slim solstice
merry stirrup
wise bear
#

thats probably tom cruise having a fit

slim solstice
wise bear
#

dudes been trapped in the closet for decades

#

no its a fucking south park reference

merry stirrup
#

there has been 1 incidence of a plane hitting a fish while flying

wise bear
#

based

slim solstice
wise bear
#

there's been like hundreds of plane impacts with turtles

wise bear
#

look it up

slim solstice
#

K

#

Lmg ®

wise bear
#

Oh fuck I should get a bunch of mcdonalds today if I'm gonna get fucked up again

#

crave burgy,,

slim solstice
#

Me too why did you make me crave 😡

wise bear
#

Munchies are infectious even through digital mediums

slim solstice
#

Small nail when did you get 5090

wise bear
#

wym which one

#

he has like 5

slim solstice
#

5??

#

Bro can I have a 1080 😭

wise bear
#

no

turbid locust
#

we measure how cool you are here by how many 5090s youve owned

turbid locust
#

ive techincally owned 2 lol

slim solstice
turbid locust
#

naw

pure garnet
#

5090 astral white soon 🙏

slim solstice
#

Which one? Manufacturing, gpu sag, melty connect?

pure garnet
#

i will use it to play peggle

slim solstice
turbid locust
#

return

slim solstice
slim solstice
merry stirrup
#

geeked

pallid marsh
#
VideoCardz.com

XFX defends Samsung GDDR6 memory, launches RX 9060 XT V3 models AMD has been using SK Hynix GDDR6 memory exclusively for the first batch of Radeon RX 9000 cards, but the company later started shipping GPU and memory bundles with Samsung chips. Chinese media quickly conducted large-scale comparisons between Hynix and Samsung memory, concluding th...

turbid locust
#

Anyone else's FanControl software break?

#

I got a defender notification saying there was a threat detected, but no actual threat shown in defender settings. Next thing I know FanControl is only detecting my gpu.

spiral quarry
turbid locust
spiral quarry
#

you just gotta find where fan contol is installed on your system.

turbid locust
#

Welp I lost all my curves cause I reinstalled but lol

pure garnet
#

why is marvel rivals getting a ps4 port with a target of 1080p30

spiral quarry
#

lol same here I had to redo all the curves again.

turbid locust
#

Did a windows update break it or?

spiral quarry
#

not sure I haven't updated my system so idk.

#

crowdstrike perhaps?

turbid locust
#

Alright I added the exe as an exception hopefully we’re good now

wise bear
#

probably the software devs didnt get their software signed correctly

wraith steeple
spiral quarry
wise bear
#

some of those were actually malware lmao

hoary hatch
#

I have acquired thermal pads

gentle urchin
hoary hatch
#

why is marvel rivals getting a PS4 port in 2025

spiral quarry
turbid locust
#

sigh it still only sees my gpu...

wise bear
#

At least you don't only see dead people

turbid locust
#

this is annoying

wise bear
#

someone didn't sign a dll~

pure garnet
#

add the entire install folder as an exception

gentle urchin
spiral quarry
pure garnet
turbid locust
#

ok it sees the sensors now but it's still spamming virus detection notis

spiral quarry
#

huh I just noticed D: looks funny lol

wise bear
#

yeah it's a frowny gasp face

gentle urchin
#

C:

wise bear
#

:3

wise bear
#

maybe dont use the software just in case something is you know, actually infected

#

this could be a simple cert not being updated or an actual malicious payload slipped into a release

turbid locust
#

I just want my pc to stfu

wise bear
#

so do what I do and just pin the fans to one speed

turbid locust
#

thats what I do but with fan control

wise bear
#

just.. do it through bios what

turbid locust
#

peyton some of us arent normies that stay on the same bios profile 24/7

wise bear
#

its so easy to just set a fixed speed in bios though

spiral quarry
#

I haven't touched my motherboards bios for the past 3 years.

wise bear
#

i think i touched it 4 months ago

turbid locust
#

also bios UI makes me wanna find out what 12 gauge tastes like

pallid marsh
#

People don't use mobo bios fan controls?

wise bear
#

depends are you after a copper slug or just buckshot

spiral quarry
#

Still running a beta bios that fixed the usb issue on am4 so that is a old old bios.

wise bear
#

buckshot is gonna taste weirdly sweet and the copper slug is gonna just taste like you're eating a tinpot spoon

pallid marsh
spiral quarry
pallid marsh
wise bear
#

probably tastes like a philips screwdriver

slim solstice
pallid marsh
#

ish

wise bear
#

its just a fancy 12ga payload

#

sabot rounds for shotguns are nothing new

pallid marsh
#

The meat tenderizer

wise bear
#

thats gonna fly like shit

pallid marsh
wise bear
#

dude that guy has been reviewing exotic loads for years holy shit

pallid marsh
#

Yeah it's great content

#

So many cool rounds tested on gel,melons,lead plates, soft 3a vest

#

Etc etc

merry stirrup
#

im alive

pallid marsh
#

Shit the AI uprising is here

merry stirrup
#

yea start running

#

i’ll generate so many tokens you won’t know what to do

turbid locust
#

Went upstairs to play games and instead spent the last hour fixing FanControl and remaking all my curves

pure garnet
#

i kinda wanna get my am5 setup out and try and do 8000c38 with gdm off

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
#

I don't even remember doing this lol

topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel we had a party for my daughter today and some siblings came who are friends with my son. One of the kids is a 4th grader. My son took him up to my office to see "his computer" (my white intel build he likes) and the kid lost it. I came up to check on them and another kid that came up and the boy was like "Dude this is a sick build. Don't tell me that's a 5090..." and I was like shocked the kid knew about GPUs. I said it actually it is a 5090, you know about GPUs? He said he watches all these Youtubers build PCs and stuff mainly for Minecraft and Fortnite, etc. He asked his mom to get a picture of it so he could show his dad and friends. I showed him the custom loop 9950X3D build and he was like "thats cool but this white one is just awesome". Now I am concerned which YT'ers he's watching lol. Still, really fun to see the kids get so pumped.

vestal granite
#

i swear trying to print stuff on windows is just infinitely more annoying than printing stuff using a linux machine

#

windows just lies to my face about print queues and doesnt know how to let me print something out if something else is in the queue so i have to either print 30 things at a time or 1 thing at a time, no in between (sometimes I have to change orientation and such and can't print everything all at once)

#

linux? i click print, i change the default if i need to. beautiful. i can print 300 things at a time or i can print 1 thing at a time, or i can add to the print queue whenever and edit it whenever without the OS freaking out on me and spitting out errors that dont exist

#

i say linux its gnome gnome is goated is what

hoary hatch
#

I do love gnome

vestal granite
spare tinsel
#

how much faster is the 5090 compared to the 5080

edgy laurel
#

ecstatic 7, 8, 9 y/o's

edgy laurel
fringe vigil
#

is this what kids are watching these days

#

we have failed society

topaz veldt
pallid marsh
fringe vigil
#

I was watching GTA videos and 50 cent as a kid

#

on YouTube

vestal granite
#

i didnt watch youtube as a kid

fringe vigil
#

ain’t nobody watching pc YouTubers as kid

vestal granite
#

there was some point in my life where i remember someone saying to me "yeah I watch youtube videos for a few hours a day" and I was like bro thats too much youtube and now we're here

pure garnet
vestal granite
#

he'd be unc on arrival

edgy laurel
#

youtube didn't exist when I was a kid

vestal granite
#

we know pop-pop

#

You Can't Say That On Television!

topaz veldt
#

I couldn't unsee it

vestal granite
#

not only does he have mustard on his sweater, he also has 2 shirts on, and he also has not followed the tag's washing protocol or chosen a low quality garment as the collar is baconed out the wazoo

shell void
spare tinsel
#

wowe

#

almost never see vee arr benchmarks though hmmm
like i heard there are some outlier games that are "a lot better"

although tbh i was expecting a bit more than 50% hmmm

pure garnet
#

it’s hard to feed the card

spare tinsel
#

true

#

someone should do a series where they find how much fps the games support

#

something like this

#

which is kind of the whole point really (or lack of increase)

topaz veldt
#

Don't buy 5090s

prime bay
#

Does anyone know what the codes are for a pc (Front panel blinking in a certain pattern) my pc does 2 pauses, then 1

edgy laurel
#

no, its not a standard. not even aware of blink codes on the front of a PC

#

you'd have to provide far more details

prime bay
#

I previously had a b550m pro A that went bad. My cpu a r5 1600af in there looked fine so I got a b550m aorus ax v3 and there's no post, the motherboard doesn't have debug lights so I'm not sure since I don't have the sound thing required but I noticed my front panel lights up in a certain pattern

#

Do I need to provide any further information?

#

Ps(I also tried a r7 5700x I got

nova trout
#

for ecc to work does motherboard have to support it

shell void
#

yes

nova trout
#

is it worth getting it over non-ecc i heard it's a bit slower

#

so by this you can conclude this board doesn't support ecc ram

edgy laurel
#

this guy, with half the server blocked

pure garnet
#

is this like day 4 of iterating over mc bundles

edgy laurel
#

yeah, and listening to no one

teal orbit
#

who

topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel rofl dude George into the curb holy shit

#

That's right rear wiggle is wild lolol

fringe vigil
#

Did you ever complete expedition 33

edgy laurel
#

that was SO good

#

georges face

topaz veldt
#

Dude lolol

#

"it's barely wobbling"

edgy laurel
#

and they don't fix it

topaz veldt
#

Haha

edgy laurel
#

at least not in that ep

topaz veldt
#

"scratch that we don't need the axle shaft it's not as bad as we thought"

edgy laurel
#

gotta watch the turbo F150 video from today. big power

topaz veldt
#

I just did

#

Thing cooks

edgy laurel
#

he's scared of it

topaz veldt
#

Well it's also got some bad noises

edgy laurel
#

i think they fixed that after, something about bell housing studs needing to be shaved

topaz veldt
#

Whenever I see a fast car I want to go out and fire 'er up

edgy laurel
#

he's always getting smoked as his events, i wonder if this will be any different lol

topaz veldt
#

Oh they met with finnegan

edgy laurel
#

haha yeah Finnegan just rocks up

nova trout
topaz veldt
#

Lol new carb but bent axle

#

Also them leaning over the mechanical fan that did absolute chaos to the shroud sketches me out @edgy laurel

fringe vigil
#

yo

topaz veldt
#

Yo

fringe vigil
#

bipo

topaz veldt
#

Bippooo

fringe vigil
#

trouble with the missus?

topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel oh noes they got pulled over

nova trout
#
fringe vigil
#

my cpu

nova trout
#

who is he and what does he do for a living

fringe vigil
#

who me?

nova trout
#

no your cpu

fringe vigil
#

he plays games at high fps + 4K

#

👍

nova trout
#

i'm thinking of 9950 over 9800

fringe vigil
#

for gaming 9800x3d

nova trout
#

similar performance in gaming with 8 more cores if you want to do editing or whatever

fringe vigil
#

i edit absolutely fine with 9800x3d

topaz veldt
nova trout
topaz veldt
#

Bro don't get a 9950X3D

#

Spend the money on a better gpu

nova trout
#

tbh i have a mental problem called "best business deal syndrome" which can be really good sometimes and really bad sometimes

topaz veldt
#

But it's not the best deal

nova trout
#

ye i know i mean along the path of action within that syndrome or disease you land into thoughts like "what if this is better" "should i get that"
you spend 10+ hours on one purcahse decision

#

you lose your sanity

random flame
# nova trout

Well at least the 285k had great lows then, for the Intel fans that care anyway. Lol.

nova trout
#

i shall avoid the intel for the foreseeable future. the intel is not a friend anymore.

#

i shall avoid the AMD gpu for the foreseable future. the AMD gpu is not a friend anymore.

#

amd cpu nvidea gpu

topaz veldt
#

I have all of the CPUs

nova trout
nova trout
topaz veldt
#

285K has its place, 9950X3D has its place, 9800X3D has its place

random flame
#

I'm still sticking with all AMD till Intel deals with their cpu overhead for their gpus, especially before Celestial ones (which they need to do anyway before ever releasing a high end one at all).

#

My next cpu at this stage will either be a 9700X-9900X or I'll wait till Zen 6 ones start dropping or such. From there, I can just keep my 7900XT for the time being.

nova trout
#

"if you wait you will save money on not spending money on an upgrade" - sun tzu art of pc upgrades

pure garnet
#

“i won’t buy ryzen until amd fixes fsr4 support” sounds equally ridiculous

edgy laurel
#

ok i wasn't the only one confused by that statement

#

bro what

topaz veldt
#

It's a lot of questions with a lot of "writing off" of answers

#

Never seen anything quite like it

edgy laurel
#

yeah, with a lot of pre-conceived notions of how things work, while being flat wrong

topaz veldt
#

Yeah agree

turbid locust
#

5nail can we swap on-call weekends

topaz veldt
#

Yesterday or day prior going on about what if games need 10 cores, etc. and we're saying that a 9950X3D using 10 cores would be slower than a 9800X3D using 8 and it was plainly ignored/rejected

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

help a homie out

topaz veldt
#

You don't want me taking on call questions/issues

turbid locust
#

I’m on call next weekend and I just wanna lock in and play borderlands 4 all weekend sadlinus

brave panther
turbid locust
#

Real

pure garnet
#

idk how we got from 7600x3d to 9950x3d in one day

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

Fucking 5700XT and wanting to upgrade to a 9800X3D and x870e board with an $800ish budget and “I’ll upgrade gpu later”

#

Fuck out of here with that dumbass shit

trail estuary
#

Please refrain from posting such messages. (I got warned)

edgy laurel
#

<@&750150305383186585>

random flame
vestal granite
#

we should bring back mini discs and handycams

random flame
random flame
# edgy laurel bro what

Yeeaah I agree, this is a write-off. Also, I had posted that one vid from the Distant Horizons mod dev and the way he put it for render distance specifically is it's not that simple to brute force. This question basically does nothing to the effect to allowing an answer clear enough for anything cpu-related.

random flame
#

In fact, that was something I wanted to do in some capacity, just not straight mini discs outright. In fact, I kinda wanna take it from being just 6.7' to 7' in diameter, use both track-width modulation and multi-level recording to drastically increase it's data capacity and read/write speeds, and then have it as a multi-format type disc that uses the same lasers for the current formats with said methods so it encompass them all for different layers of storage where needed.

topaz veldt
#

Aw man Indiana Order of Giants is not on game pass

turbid locust
#

Wow Epic finally got their shit together huh?

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

I am kind of pumped GFN is going to have 5080s on Sept 10 i think

#

My 9800X3D system was wigging out today... finally updated the x670e hero bios from like 2506 to 3205

#

new chippie drivers also

young void
#

Never hurts to give alittle updatee

topaz veldt
#

yeah so far so good since

#

although its bitching that TPM is not enabled... not sure if thats accurate

young void
#

Mmm should've reset after the first pop-up but myte be worth taking a peak

topaz veldt
#

fuggit we ride

sharp phoenix
#

This cable for my current PSU has 2 8-pin ends on the GPU side but only one 8-pin end on the PSU side. Is it safe to use with my new 6700 XT?

devout ridge
#

no

#

Use two separate 8pin GPU cables

topaz veldt
#

its prob fine but yeah prefer to use non-pigtailies

sharp phoenix
#

Cuz the non-pigtails I have straight up don't fit into my PSU for some fucking reason

devout ridge
#

what

turbid locust
#

that gpu draws like 220W lmao a pigtail is fine

devout ridge
#

are you sure you're plugging in the right side of the cable?

turbid locust
#

yeah.

sharp phoenix
devout ridge
#

picture of both sides of the connector

nova trout
sharp phoenix
#

PSU itself; PSU cable side, GPU cable side

nova trout
#

That’s normal

sharp phoenix
#

Fuck, the PSU image is so blurry X(

nova trout
#

That’s normal

sharp phoenix
#

Anything not normal?

nova trout
#

The not normal is the normal

nova trout
#

6$ for half pound of popcorn

sharp phoenix
#

Well either way, I can tell the part that doesn't fit is the left side of the cable to the left side of the PSU

#

This...is an issue

nova trout
#

2+6 goes to gpu

sharp phoenix
#

I know

#

But the whole 8 piece (not split) doesn't fit

nova trout
#

Can u retake

edgy laurel
indigo walrus
topaz veldt
#

Dunno why COD4 is complaining

nova trout
#

Man 6$ for 6.5 ounces of popcorn
1$ an ounce

#

What is this KEKW KEKW KEKW

topaz veldt
#

They're trying to tell you to eat better

turbid locust
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

trying again

sharp phoenix
topaz veldt
#

Not square on each bottom row end

sharp phoenix
#

Yeah what I eventually realized

indigo walrus
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

Whatcha doing on Cod 4?

nova trout
indigo walrus
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

wat

nova trout
sharp phoenix
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

wait does cod 4 go through that stupid fucking launcher now?

topaz veldt
#

No idea

#

but it threw a message in the main splash page

sharp phoenix
#

Either way, is the pigtail cable actually fine for the XFX QICK 6700 XT then?

edgy laurel
#

Find the cables that came with that PSU

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust the irony is I just upgraded my BIOS, I think things were just squirrelly

edgy laurel
sharp phoenix
#

But I only have 1 total of the pigtail cable, so both GPU ends would be sharing the same PSU end. That's what I'm slightly worried about

turbid locust
#

non issue

pure garnet
#

at 230w it's not gonna matter

edgy laurel
nova trout
pure garnet
nova trout
turbid locust
#

but yeah if its not a standard cable for that PSU... lol

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

lol ffs

pure garnet
#

misinformation nation

turbid locust
#

most informed ZTT viewer

nova trout
topaz veldt
nova trout
#

Someone said it to me here last week

nova trout
sharp phoenix
topaz veldt
#

They don't deliver wattage either

nova trout
topaz veldt
#

Cables provide ampacity, current

nova trout
topaz veldt
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They don't

nova trout
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Stfu you get my point

topaz veldt
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Nope

nova trout
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Rip

topaz veldt
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Pigtailed 8 pin can provide enough current for 200 some odd watts

turbid locust
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im not discussing this shit with people that dont know Ohm's law

pure garnet
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“is that a youtube channel?”

topaz veldt
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I love that Guilty is blocked

nova trout
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Amps volts watts all same what matters is electricity is dangerous

edgy laurel
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I hate it. This guy is on day number 4 of ranting about nonsense and making things up

sharp phoenix
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WILL THE PIGTAIL CABLE WORK? It's the same as I've been using for my 1050 Ti but ofc only 1 of the pigtail ends in that case

pure garnet
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yes

edgy laurel
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...yes

pallid marsh
edgy laurel
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which is which

nova trout
sharp phoenix
nova trout
sharp phoenix
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My main concern for the pigtail is the GPU not getting proper/enough power

turbid locust
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how many people have to tell you it's fine before you understand

nova trout
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Nah bro should ask whatever questions he has

pure garnet
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mac in less this news

nova trout
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Never take people’s “fine” for granted even if they could be right get the evidence and facts

pure garnet
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i grabbed a cooler for my 7800x3d, going for an 8000 setup with gdm off tomorrow

turbid locust
edgy laurel
pure garnet
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my day is too peaceful with 2 intel systems with xmp on

nova trout
turbid locust
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dude just stfu

nova trout
turbid locust
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"get the evidence and facts" i couldnt be FUCKED to be someones god damn search engine

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fuck you

edgy laurel
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precedence for people being muted for continual misinformation

nova trout
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absolute lol

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What a joke ego trip

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Welcome to the blocked list

edgy laurel
nova trout
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Kid got triggered so hard over common sense
The ego is too far up his nose

turbid locust
nova trout
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Don’t want to help someone with their research ? Shut up why be mean and gate keep them ? What a clown

pallid marsh
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Don't feed trolls

edgy laurel
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everyone whos tried to help he's argued with and eventually blocked

turbid locust
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it's not what ChatGPT said so

pallid marsh
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Blocking people is lame

turbid locust
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blocked by someone thats not in the same tax bracket as me oh no

pure garnet
edgy laurel
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lol, a whole page of hidden messages

brave panther
pure garnet
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yeah but that's not as attention grabbing

pallid marsh
pure garnet
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shouting about banishing someone from the privilege of talking to you in a public discord is of upmost importance

turbid locust
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it wouldve been a little more valid if it was the guy asking the question arguing with me

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but no it's some random dude that wasnt even remotely contributing to the conversation lol

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pure garnet
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do you use linkedin frequently

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similar vibes in posts

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again I wish I could filter any message sent by anyone that's not over 21 or employed

nova trout
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pallid marsh
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Old news brother

nova trout
indigo walrus
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Last I had the privilege of having it due to finding a rare working ice cream machine was 2021

nova trout
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I want to see if it’s user feedback

pallid marsh
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It is

nova trout
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1/3 down in multiple cities is a real art

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This is a form of manipulating the masses

indigo walrus
nova trout
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We will never forget his sacrifices

indigo walrus
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Eh, sure, maybe. I'd rather argue that independently owned & operated Gelato shops are the savior of soft ice cream enjoyers. Once you have homemade / mom & pop shop / Italian Gelato, there is no replacement.

nova trout
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Oh 100% that’s why I specified mcdees ice cream enjoyers

indigo walrus
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Yee I hear ya. Mind you, Wendy's Frosty's are a very close second, or a first if you prefer milkshake consistency.

nova trout
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But ye I always go local shops local pizzerias…etc
Franchise is the lowest end of quality and taste

turbid locust
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sonic soft serve underrated

nova trout
pallid marsh
nova trout
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If you want good ice cream get Hagen dazs or Ben and Jerry’s
My local store sells 2 for 8 sometimes with coupons I can get em down to 3/2.5$ each