tech-chat-2

[undone quest]

yeahh

[green marsh]

well not all of their lineup, just most of their home & small business lineup. Some models stay, but we are getting to $1k models

[brave panther]

how much money are you looking to spend

[wise bear]

all the money in the world

[undone quest]

ik n i do wanna do self hosting stuf.. but idk if ill have fun for a couple months n then give up on it all lol

[topaz veldt]

it'd be smarter to buy a 2nd hand dell SFF with an i5 for plex/jelly fin

[wise bear]

It'd be way smarter to buy me a meal from Wendy's

God a frosty sounds so good rn

[undone quest]

I mean im at uni studying CS n im not rly worried about money cuz i have some savings or i could jst pick up some part time work if I rly wanted 2 but I stress about wasting money on stuf that I dont need lol

[green marsh]

DS225+ has J4125 and just 2GB RAM (expandable to 6GB). And costs $340, for a lame 2 bay NAS. Not even sure J4125 would have good enough IGP for Jellyfin transcoding

[topaz veldt]

personally would not get ANY CPU without quicksync to do transcoding

[green marsh]

in comparison DXP2800 from Ugreen is $297 and has N100 with 8GB RAM 🤷‍♂️

[wise bear]

ugreens little nas solutions are like, becoming really popular

[green marsh]

try their system, then if you don't like it, install TrueNAS/OMV or ZimaOS

[undone quest]

im guessing this is the like h.264 transcoding stuf yh? i heard i can jst get my pc 2 do the transcoding n store the files on the NAS or smt like that

but it didnt sound as convenient or as good as jst getting a NAS that could do the transcoding

[undone quest]

they seem rly sick 😭 i wanttt onee

[topaz veldt]

yeah host the content on the NAS and do whatever from PC/etc.

[undone quest]

yeahh i was looking at that too tbf

[brave panther]

and i bet cheaper ones can be found

[undone quest]

I jst thought that im gonna have this NAS for years so spending more on getting a cool ugreen nas or smt like that might be alr

n i mean ill be taking it 2 and from uni n the small size will be nice for that 2

[green marsh]

No hotswap bays /s

[undone quest]

yeah the hotswap bays r so fkin sick 😭

[topaz veldt]

and completely useless

[brave panther]

then proliant ml30 gen 9 for 50$

[topaz veldt]

there is really no need for anything at home to be hot swap

[fringe vigil]

hi

[undone quest]

true.. looks sick tho

[undone quest]

hallo

[brave panther]

*monkey paw curles
USB is no longer hot swap

[undone quest]

is N100 based still alr tho? i was considering getting this UGREEN one if i wanted 2 go ugreen https://amzn.eu/d/jb8OCk2

[nova trout]

Corsair rma should’ve been here a week ago but memphis customs decided to hold it for five days

A week no psu

[turbid locust]

life

[green marsh]

N100 is very good low power cpu. More than enough for NAS plus few docker containers. Only big limitation is single channel RAM, 16GB ( not sure about 32GB modules)

[nova trout]

99.9994% of our imports are never checked
My Corsair shipment must be dangerous

[undone quest]

probably fine for anything ide wanna do then cheers

[nova trout]

[undone quest]

should i jst buy a nice nas n like 16tb hdds n sell my friends a cloud storage subscription till i make my money back? 😂

stonks

[nova trout]

[brave panther]

max ram is 16gb

[green marsh]

You can never be sure if spec max ram is because of an actual technical limit or just 'max possible at time of writing the specs'. I bet i7-920 still says 24GB max

[brave panther]

it could very well be a hardcoded limit to enahnce "market separation"

just like ecc support is

[random flame]

Okay... What is this?
https://www.impactlab.com/2025/04/27/protoclone-the-most-anatomically-accurate-android-yet-from-clone-robotics/

That is insane of a design!

[brave panther]

thingamabob

[fringe vigil]

[brave panther]

first thought: Westworld

[green marsh]

https://diycraic.com/2024/12/27/intel-n100-mini-pc-32gb-ram-as-a-home-server/

Crucial DDR5 32GB worked for this guy with N100

So maybe DDR5 versions with right modules do work

[brave panther]

Now we need to test with 48gb module lmao

[frank zealot]

as long as it's purely a file server and not taking any cpu load lol

that chip is weak AF

[green marsh]

Compared to what synology uses it is a Ferrari

[frank zealot]

an N100? maybe the N305 is

[green marsh]

And for what people want of nas, it is more than enough. Trancoding is done by IGP, for everything else typical on NAS including some normal docker containers, it will be bored by doing nothing

[green marsh]

Synology uses j4125 and lower

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna5-gpus-reportedly-get-transformer-codenames-alpha-trion-ultra-magnus-orion-pax

[frank zealot]

I never said synology was good, just that calling the n100 a ferari was a bit over the top

the N305 with 8 cores might actually be tho

[shell void]

frivolous

[random flame]

Oh I already mentioned that.

[shell void]

the Nvidia GeForce RTX 6090 will annihilate "Alpha" Trion

[random flame]

Dammit, can't remember where though.

[frank zealot]

the 4090 probably will still, too

[steel stream]

teaser for FSR5, DLSS "Transformer" and now Transformer names

smoking that insane pack

[pallid viper]

hey all, im helping build a pc for a mate of mine, he already has one so we are looking to reuse the psu and storage, he wants a new case for some reason ... here is the link, what are your thoughts? thanks
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j9yRWc

[steel stream]

also my b

[frank zealot]

AMD hasn't shown any amount of swing needed to get their GPUs from mid/upper-mid tier up to high end.

And I don't think that's changing in one generation.

[shell void]

navi 48 is just not big

of course a 357mm rdna4 gpu is not going to clash with the 750mm goliath that is the gb202

[random flame]

From what I've heard so far, AMD's flagship will not be for consumers.

The next one I mean.

[frank zealot]

It'd be fuckin' baller if AMD Dropped a GPU that could compete with a 5090, but... I don't see it happening

[leaden dawn]

Gamer

[random flame]

So if it somehow beats even a 4090 performance-wise... We're not getting it anyway.

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/radost-smich-haha-meme-gif-9636605697543791702

[frank zealot]

sure we can, just pay 4K

[shell void]

if they launch a full size rdna5 gpu then it should be able to easily surpass the 4090 and probably the 5090 too

[edgy laurel]

I’ve seen it enough that I’ve finally googled it. I thought it was a typo for too long. Why have we replaced ass with “ahh”. Fucking dumb.

[shell void]

rdna4's performance per die area is pretty good

well for raster and basic rt anyway

[random flame]

It was, yeah, just that they didn't want to do the full big die.

So we technically never got a 9090.

Or even a 9080 XT.

[shell void]

the list of people that will buy a $2000 radeon gpu when their featureset is still in its infancy is quite small

[random flame]

Pretty much.

[frank zealot]

well, doubling the die of a 9070 XT would likely up the tbp to 450-500ish watts?
Which is doable, but... oof

[random flame]

It was surprising they had a test mule at all with the full size Big Navi die.

[pure garnet]

people on tiktok self censor

[shell void]

in 10 years people will look back and laugh about how we called 600w gpus power hogs

[frank zealot]

maybe? But... at a certain point, we're gonna be getting to a level where US Breakers are gonna be a concern for PCs....

[shell void]

roadmaps of future tsmc process nodes and cooling techniques to help scale up to like 4KW for cpus and gpus were posted online a bit ago

power usage will only continue to go up exponentially

[random flame]

I would like to hope that 10 years later, we get gpus more efficient than the ones now that can hit flagship performance, or at least have other means of doing so without requiring more than 180w.

[shell void]

they will be both more efficient and also produce more heat

[frank zealot]

not everyone's gonna have 2-3 breakers at a desk to run a single gaming pc

[shell void]

wattage isnt going to go down

[shell void]

yeah i think that having a high powered desktop is going to become niche

things will scale up so much that it wont be practical for normal people anymore

[random flame]

I'd also hope by then both Intel and Samsung have their collective crap together to be able to get their bleeding edge nodes going or at least optimize their current ones they've been trying to make work at the least.

[shell void]

gb202 (5090) and tu102 (2080ti) are both ~750mm and both run at a similar voltage, but 5090 is 600W and 2080Ti is 250W

nvidia isnt cranking voltage on newer gpus to get more performance out

there's just more power density every generation

[random flame]

As of now though, I'm starting to feel like bleeding edge is... Not entirely what the consumer market even needs anymore.

If any at all, we just need more affordable tech that has performance within reason and new standards set.

[frank zealot]

Hmmmm, Jakkuh's no longer at LTT...

I wonder what that means for Linus' test whole-house UPS that's in his basement?

[charred osprey]

jakkuh sent the first message in announcements in 2017

[frank zealot]

Well, he did start the server, so

[shell void]

scale up scale out scale up scale out

[charred osprey]

i dont even know who jakkuh is tbh

[brisk eagle]

Another one gone??

[frank zealot]

jake tivy

[shell void]

gigawatt gpu centers coming soon 🔥

[leaden dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-what-wtf-wait-a-minute-gif-17393240580727231365

[frank zealot]

he was on camera doing tons of stuff at Linus' house regularly

[random flame]

In my opinion, even just for Intel to survive, they should really consider repurposing any of their older nodes for embedded chip designs.

[shell void]

scale up scale out scale up scale out

power usage is only going up, not down

[frank zealot]

this guy

[shell void]

18A hasnt ever been delayed afaik

clearwater forest and pantherlake are launching on schedule

all the news articles calling it dead or saying that they have horrendous yields are fake news

[random flame]

I don't think it's dead at all.

I just mean in general.

[steel stream]

I believe in 18A supremacy 🙏

[shell void]

but true 18A is just the start

[random flame]

I'm also going to continue to stand by this opinion.

[shell void]

18A gets them to performance parity with TSMC and is going to be mainly used for internal products

we need 14A and future processes to cook

[brave panther]

beloved 14+++++++

[shell void]

intel does keep their old nodes cranking

for base tiles or just producing older cpus for oems

[random flame]

Sure, but which ones exactly?

[shell void]

intel 7 is practically maxed out 24/7

[random flame]

And for how much do they charge per wafer?
That's what I've long been curious of.

[shell void]

intel 14 was tweaked to make 22ffl which is used for base tiles

i think they use their really old stuff for basic embedded devices for companies like you said

[steel stream]

I believe

[random flame]

How old we talking?

[shell void]

truthfully idk i havent looked into their small customers

hopefully 18A products sell well and 14A's dev & launch go smoothly

i dont follow samsung stuff at all, i should look into that

[steel stream]

from what I have heard from Navy (i think) they are not doing well at all

[fringe vigil]

hi hi hi

[random flame]

Samsung's got loads of problems and they already are at 2 and 1.8 nm.

[shell void]

the only new samsung deal that i know about is tesla buying out a future 3nm fab

[low sorrel]

He quit?

[random flame]

In fact, whenever I thinks of fabs with yield issues, Samsung is the first one to come to mind.

[steel stream]

iirc yields are not good

[shell void]

people do say that, but samsung had no issue pumping out so much rtx 3000 supply that nvidia purposefully throttled it

and a lot of rtx 3000 used bigger than usual dies

[frank zealot]

His account isn't orange anymore, and Infra is now owner....

Bur ltt doesn't state why people leave

[shell void]

i dont trust news articles when it comes to semiconductor stuff anymore

[random flame]

And that's with their custom 8n process.

[charred osprey]

whos infra

[frank zealot]

Infrastructure

[random flame]

It worked out there, yeah, even if the chips themselves were just... Okay quality-wise. Their yields weren't that great, but not so bad. Though I've only heard that the newer nodes were a struggle of a sell to potential partners.

The yield issues were just not good enough for partners then.

[low sorrel]

No more cat pics :(

[fringe vigil]

thats right so shut yo ass up

[pallid marsh]

https://youtu.be/VvI0TtwsqX0?feature=shared I love a good angry rant video

[topaz veldt]

@fringe vigil https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=qQvIAs-nPSo&si=oymmoG9hPywl8CR7

[fringe vigil]

TJ been making songs since the 60s wow

[edgy laurel]

what an awful product

unbelievable matte

by design

[pallid marsh]

And soon many software bugs and a terrible display for $2k

[edgy laurel]

more than plenty

you do you

its not too little, which is all the matters

stop overthinking the simplest part of building a PC

its not

everyone seems to make it out to be like rocket science but it just isn't

squirt some paste on, screw down the cooler and you're done

[fringe vigil]

shrimpy

[low sorrel]

Is that your cat

[shell void]

yeah thatll work

[fringe vigil]

100 percent

[violet wyvern]

Guys, I am looking for a case
Black with RGB fans
Under £100 (must be on pcpp)
ATX Mid prefferably but an mATX would also be fine so long as its a bit cheaper

[fringe vigil]

bro loves big

[cerulean cosmos]

idk man

[pallid marsh]

yeah thats luna

too much is better then too little

[shell void]

bro the original application was completely fine xd

this new one you did is also fine

screw the cooler on

[wise bear]

ram in the wrong slots

[shell void]

true factual information, screw the cooler on after you put your dimms in slots 2 and 4

[edgy laurel]

have you gone to PCPP, selected ATX midtower, set your budget and looked yourself?

[wise bear]

but guilty that's so HARD

you can't possibly expect someone to be that competent these days

who

[edgy laurel]

no one is talking to you lol

[violet wyvern]

yes, I have, however I don't know whats good/not, I haven't built a pc in several years and I don't really want to spend 5 hours watching reviews when I could ask here and spend a 10th of that

[low sorrel]

Oh it's yours then it's stupid and a idiot12323

[edgy laurel]

well i'd probably get a Lancool 206 or 207 https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/XfcgXL,zysV3C/

[jaunty horizon]

thats pretty cool man

[edgy laurel]

No, no one replied to you here.

Peyton was talking to me

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tale-shrimp-shrimp-shark-tale-nadianagrande-desperate-ranting-gif-899907485534333356

[pure garnet]

@shell void im not getting 200fps locked in wow i need a 9950x3d

[pallid marsh]

[low sorrel]

Anyways have you tried the new squad update

You don't have Parkinson's

[pallid marsh]

not yet

[low sorrel]

I just killed a full squad with one mag of ppsh

Because I was in the right spot at the right time

[pallid marsh]

commie gun

[low sorrel]

Someone got my hat :(

Otherwise I would using the wonderful sks

Also a commie gun

[pallid marsh]

you see the china man hat gets a extra tandem but only has a pistol

[edgy laurel]

Oh, thats not euros.. in that case... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/VVXJ7P,XfcgXL,zysV3C/

[low sorrel]

Yeah I played it during the playtest

[pallid marsh]

[low sorrel]

I still would rather have a SMAW

[low sorrel]

Remember to clear cache btw

My game was crashing before I did that

[pallid marsh]

well i have a good pc i dont need that

[low sorrel]

Hey my PC is fine after I decided to not run 1:1 4000mhz

Man why best buy reject me for jobs

[pallid marsh]

idk

[low sorrel]

It's because I'm Asian isn't

Even though odds are they're also Asian

[fringe vigil]

one of the best canadian shows ever

look at him

im finished loool

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/settle-down-calm-you-need-gif-18215045

[pallid marsh]

@low sorrel you never told me you where on canadian tv

[fringe vigil]

snoop dog came in season 12

[vestal granite]

its true

[fringe vigil]

such a good season aswell

[devout ridge]

My computer crashed with no BSOD playing slime rancher 2, weird

[fringe vigil]

why do some Canadians sound american then they sound irish

[vestal granite]

the irish

[fringe vigil]

they say things like aboot

[wise bear]

@edgy laurel
yes/no on the new gen oled?
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Upscaling-Filmmaker-Orchestra-OLED42C5PUA/dp/B0DYQMWSKG

[fringe vigil]

💀

[edgy laurel]

C5 is nice for 99% of people

[pallid marsh]

only 42 inches?

[vestal granite]

canada is just ireland + england + france + denmark all combined into a little calzone of accents

[wise bear]

It's for the desk lmao

[pallid marsh]

ah

[polar prawn]

idk I have a C2 and wish I went with a smaller screen

[edgy laurel]

Ya I mean, I have a C2 on my desk. Lotta people here have C4's, thats just the latest 2025 model

[wise bear]

i was considering that and a 5070ti as an early christmas present to myself

[edgy laurel]

C4's are a better deal, usually

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-goddamn-right-breaking-bad-youre-right-walter-white-gif-15742143

[pallid marsh]

isnt the c4 and c5 really similar

[edgy laurel]

they're all really similar

(within the C series)

[polar prawn]

do any have black frame insertion other than the CX

[fringe vigil]

similar but c5 has a slight edge

[edgy laurel]

marginal update year after year, nothing major

[pallid marsh]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c4-oled-vs-lg-c5-oled/49541/88602

[fringe vigil]

in terms of hdr brightness sdr, colors

[polar prawn]

I wish I went with the CX for bfi

[fringe vigil]

i cant wait to get my C5

[young void]

Hrmm

[edgy laurel]

jorj has to keep repeating it to himself to make himself feel better

[polar prawn]

and I’d have saved some money too

[fringe vigil]

shush

youre sooo

ugh

[edgy laurel]

anyway @wise bear yes LG C series are popular choices for desktop use if you have the room

[fringe vigil]

its literally tested facts

[wise bear]

hokey dokey!

ty for your trusted input

[pallid marsh]

huge upgrade @fringe vigil 😛 0.1ms

[young void]

Show pics when you get it ❤️

[fringe vigil]

guilty has c2 generations behind

[fringe vigil]

who cares about stutter lol

[polar prawn]

idk I just got the 5070 ti for mine and I’d say go 1440p if you wanna get a GPU this year

[edgy laurel]

and you have none

[fringe vigil]

yeah will soon though

[young void]

Was curious what jorj has now

[wise bear]

dude im already past 1440p,

[edgy laurel]

we'll believe it when we see it.

[pallid marsh]

c4 is better at reflected light

[low sorrel]

Yeah I'm famous bro

[polar prawn]

5070 ti doesn’t seem cut out for my C2

[low sorrel]

That's what she said

[wise bear]

Most of the games I play use dlss & I'm coming off a 2080ti soooooo

[edgy laurel]

4K is a very big step up

[fringe vigil]

sure ill send you confirmation

[frank cypress]

its time for a 5090

[fringe vigil]

or pic

[young void]

4k G80SD oled, vs alienware AW2725Q 4k oled (died so fast), vs lg 4k oled 32GS95UE-B.AUS, vs 1440p non oled basic acer

[wise bear]

nooooooo im not blowing 2 grand on a card

[frank cypress]

think of the value

[polar prawn]

than stick with 1440p for another year

[edgy laurel]

I had a 3090 for 3440x1440. moving to 4k, the 3090 was not cuttin it

[low sorrel]

More then 2 grand

[pallid marsh]

WTF LG why is the downgrade our tvs

[frank cypress]

the more you buy the more you save

[wise bear]

yeah ok but these iras gotta last me

I'm much more happy to pay 750 for a 5070ti

[pallid marsh]

not going to wait for the new super cards?

[polar prawn]

are you more over 1440p or 60fps

[wise bear]

Oh there's gonna be a super variant?

[frank cypress]

probably

[pallid marsh]

more vram bb

[wise bear]

hmmm

[frank cypress]

3gb ics vs 2gb ics iirc

[wise bear]

I will wait until black friday

[frank cypress]

or at least rumored to have that

[pallid marsh]

https://www.techpowerup.com/338440/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-planned-with-24-gb-of-gddr7-memory

[edgy laurel]

any other fan header, or buy a splitter

[wise bear]

24gb on a 5070 for me would go wild

[frank cypress]

this would be good if I didnt already have the 4000 ada sff

😔

[wise bear]

god I could load an entire dcs map into vram

[polar prawn]

I’m thinking I’m going to return the 5070 ti

[low sorrel]

5090 ti super when

[wise bear]

bring back titan series

but better

[polar prawn]

16GB is a wall in the tomb raider game @ 4k

[pallid marsh]

5080 super better match or beat the 4090 in raster

[polar prawn]

i go from 50fps at 1440p to 5 at 4k

[wise bear]

use dlss more nerd

[frank cypress]

doesnt sound right

also resolution doesnt affect texture resolution no?

[polar prawn]

if I turn path tracing on to medium, it wouldn’t run well enough to matter anyways but it still is hitting a vram wall, the game crashes half the time and gives me a VRAM warning before I press apply

[edgy laurel]

talk to @steel stream. rocking 5070Ti @ 4K

Michael did before, as did Mac

[polar prawn]

no but it does affect how many objects are loaded into memory at once and such

textures are just the big memory hog

[frank cypress]

no..? thats still controlled by LODs, culling distances etc no?

[polar prawn]

which normally change based on resolution

[cerulean cosmos]

https://youtu.be/yn6bSm9HXFg?si=AaIs47y_RurYZVDC

[polar prawn]

well LODs can work in screen space and look up textures based on how many pixels some mesh takes up on screen so a higher resolution means it normally takes up more pixels and keeps a higher quality texture in memory

[frank cypress]

oh I guess it can cause mipmapping to bias towards higher quality yeah

[vagrant cargo]

tbh i think the vram on 5080 could of been higher not too high but better than what it has

[frank cypress]

COULDVE

[vagrant cargo]

this makes me wonder if the super version will have better vram

tbh i find it funny how with the 3000 line vram was higher on some cards than the same cards under the 5000 line

[frank cypress]

some...? literally just the 3060

[fringe vigil]

14 HOURS TILL SILKSONG

[frank cypress]

but its only because nvidia wanted to originally put 6gb on the 3060

[vagrant cargo]

5090 is 32gb so honestly im confused why they didnt try to put 24gb on the 5080

[pure garnet]

because that's not how the die is setup

[young void]

So they can sell you it again in ti form near christmas ofc or a super refresh if you would

[pure garnet]

you can have either 32gb or 16gb

or now 24/48 with the 3gb modules

[frank cypress]

well 24gb with 3gb chips work no?

[brisk eagle]

Upsell obv
So the ai companies only buy out the 5090s

[frank cypress]

yer but that wasnt available before so

[young void]

Like so

[pallid marsh]

peronsally i think $1,000 dollar gpus should only have 8gb of vram non ones needs 16b

[young void]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080-super.c4302

[cloud vigil]

they should make a 5090Ti Super that has 65,535 shaders and 96GB of VRAM and costs $3.49 plus tax

[brisk eagle]

I would like my gpus to have 32b idk if 16b is enough nowadays

[vagrant cargo]

eh some games now are asking for 8gb vram as a minimum

[frank cypress]

what do you even do that needs 32gb of vram

[brisk eagle]

No 32b not gb

[frank cypress]

32gb of vram is obscene for most consumers

[brisk eagle]

Bytes

[frank cypress]

oh 32 whole bytes mb

[young void]

Anyhow tainting tc2 with such silly questions tiskkk

[frank cypress]

[young void]

[cloud vigil]

same thing that the 1080Ti was doing with 11GB in 2018. it's not about the meta, it's about future proofing

[vagrant cargo]

exactly

[brisk eagle]

8gb of storage will be enough that anyone will ever need

[vagrant cargo]

fact of the matter is if any of amds upcoming gpus what are extremely close to 5080 level have 24gb nvidia is kind of screwed

[frank cypress]

32gb for 8k textures that will get mushed by denoising

[cloud vigil]

my HD7970 from 2011 has an ENORMOUS 3GB that was larger than any game at the time could fill. nowadays that's not enough to run any AAA titles, although smaller games work really well on it

[frank cypress]

[frank cypress]

lol no

[cloud vigil]

the 7900XTX is 5080-level and has 24GB VRAM, just not the RT

[frank cypress]

even if amd cards are faster it doesnt matter

[shell void]

no

[low sorrel]

4080

[frank cypress]

amd cards aren't even feature parity with nvidia cards

I literally will never buy an amd card because it doesnt support what I use my pc for

[turbid locust]

more vram doesn’t fix power inefficiency and worse features lol

[shell void]

amd will have to beat nvidia for several generations in a row before marketshare has a meaningful shift

as it stands nvidia will probably have like 97% share by the time that rdna5 launches lmao

[frank cypress]

hell it isn't even beating nvidia in terms of value rn imo

[pallid marsh]

5080 is a 4080 super duper

[cloud vigil]

5080 is ~12% faster than the 7900XTX on average, and the gap becomes narrower if we ignore RT. I count that as being "close enough"

[frank cypress]

9070xts are like... $1000 cad, vs a 1.1k 5070ti

the latter being a no brainer

[shell void]

that's cool and all but new games force RT and require good upscaling and/or framegen to get a decent framerate

which the XTX cannot offer

[pallid marsh]

bf6 has no rt

[cloud vigil]

my 4080 Super is on the overclocking leaderboards for the 5080, that's just how it is

[vagrant cargo]

not really games arent been optimised aswell as they used to be so 8gb is now the minimum requirement on some newer games from this year , im calling it now but i dont think thats gonna improve for awhile wouldnt be suprised if games come out in the future what require 12gb as a minimum

[low sorrel]

Hey they're 850 open box

[frank cypress]

I think they're arguing that amd has literally demonstrated what they were saying and it didnt make a meaningful difference anyways

[brisk eagle]

It was a line (from Apple iirc?)
Not 8gb per game
8gb total over everything

[vagrant cargo]

yeah but thats a exception realistically, also did they say it never will have it or it was not in the beta?

[shell void]

probably sooner considering they went from 92 to 94 in one quarter

[turbid locust]

The only thing AMD offers is raster performance per dollar, and even then, the 5070Ti is giving the 9070XT a run for its money value wise.

[cloud vigil]

"8GB of VRAM should be enough" don't make me tap the sign

[turbid locust]

With that being said I do not fuck with Nvidia being a monopoly and their business practices

[shell void]

if youre a linux daily driver or you only play older games then radeon is cool, but otherwise they arent competing

hence their <6% marketshare

[turbid locust]

Is this market share of all GPUs ever or gaming

[vagrant cargo]

tbh half the features nvidia has software are pointless

[cloud vigil]

anyone who's ever played kkrieger.exe knows that games shouldn't really need more than 5GB or so, but here we are

[frank cypress]

lol

[shell void]

just graphics cards

[turbid locust]

Wonder what the split is for gaming PCs

[shell void]

well it'd be pretty much the same

[low sorrel]

Or extremely cpu heavy games

[shell void]

the 94% figure is for graphics cards as a whole, for SIs and DIY

[frank cypress]

not having cuda already makes amd gpus worthless to me

[low sorrel]

I wonder what the split is for DIY

[vagrant cargo]

tell me who do you know using filters and features like that that nvidia offers software wise?

[frank cypress]

and i mean that quite literally

[vagrant cargo]

hell i dont even use nvidia to adjust my settings in game i do it on a game to game basis by my self

[low sorrel]

Maybe 20%?

[vagrant cargo]

last time i used nvidias thing for that the game ran like crap

[cloud vigil]

I'm really curious how AMD's next gen cards are gonna work, because they're gonna give up on Navi and base the new cards on CDNA, which should be a lot more CUDA-like

[frank cypress]

I dont play games for the most part buddy

[vagrant cargo]

and im using a 5080

[shell void]

almost all gamers that have RTX cards use DLSS to some extent

this is fact not opinion

[frank cypress]

I use super resolution iirc

[vagrant cargo]

yeah but thats dlss im on about the visual filters

[shell void]

idk what filters u mean

[cloud vigil]

DLSS is a "nice to have" but not supported enough to make it a dealbreaker for me

[vagrant cargo]

tbh be great if they could do good frame rates without needing ai

[edgy laurel]

wat

[frank cypress]

wat

[edgy laurel]

1080p gamers be like

[shell void]

dlss has been added to pretty much every AAA game since 2020 man

[low sorrel]

I don't remember the last time I bought a new game and it didn't have dlss

[shell void]

if you only play old games then sure you wont have it

[cloud vigil]

the thing with frame gen is it allows devs to stop optimizing the CPU side, because 2x framegen will allow a game to run at "120FPS" while the game only ticks at 60hz

[frank cypress]

and if you only play old games you wouldnt need it

[edgy laurel]

DLSS SR != DLSS FG

[frank cypress]

[vagrant cargo]

i miss when gpus could do a high fps without software

[shell void]

rasterization is software trickery too big bro

[edgy laurel]

you realize how silly this sounds, if you take a step back.. right?

[shell void]

it's all math and pixels, none of it is analog

[vagrant cargo]

i miss my 1060 gpu i had

[frank cypress]

lmaoooooo

[wraith steeple]

TG Discord Dropped

[vagrant cargo]

that lasted me a good 15 years

with pretty good fps

[cloud vigil]

also FSR exists. not saying it's good, but it's definitely there, and definitely compatible

[frank cypress]

pascal isn't even 15 years old

[low sorrel]

When was 2016 15 years ago

[vagrant cargo]

even on newer games at the time

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[frank cypress]

the fuck?

[shell void]

it wasnt worthwhile until FSR 4 launched which is only practically usable on RDNA 4

[edgy laurel]

anyway, back to actually using my computer. its silly in here

[shell void]

XESS made FSR obsolete almost immediately

[vagrant cargo]

got about 60 on most games but saying that i ran most games on high i think i just had a really good cpu and gpu combination cant recall the cpu i had

[cloud vigil]

that too

[shell void]

and then lossless scaling stepped in to give radeon users framegen because they were abandoned

[vagrant cargo]

that was on a prebuilt pc but i changed the gpu

[shell void]

afmf and fsr framegen are so frickin bad

as is all of fsr pre version 4

[vagrant cargo]

that was i must of got that pc back around 2010

[shell void]

intel and random indie devs are keeping radeon cards alive because amd doesnt

[vagrant cargo]

might of been around 2011 or 2012 actually

cant fully remember im old and the years have been shooting by too much

[frank cypress]

what about the turding and ampere users 😔

[shell void]

xess 2.1 to your rescue

or lsfg

[frank cypress]

dude pascal isn't even 15 years old

[low sorrel]

Hot take fsr 2 and 3 are fine

[frank cypress]

what are you waffling about man

[vagrant cargo]

when does amd or intel announce their next gpus?

[cloud vigil]

1060 was released 9 years ago

[shell void]

i cannot legally give medical advice but i think you should consider consulting an optometrist

[frank cypress]

im going to say it

pascal is extremely glazed

sure, it was a massive leap when it came out

[vagrant cargo]

im getting my gpus and my pc builds ive owned mixed up

[frank cypress]

but it did not hold up at all imo

[cloud vigil]

better than nothing IMO, but definitely not perfect

[vagrant cargo]

i have owned 3 in total

[edgy laurel]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna5-gpus-reportedly-get-transformer-codenames-alpha-trion-ultra-magnus-orion-pax 2026

[shell void]

rtx 3000 was objectively the biggest gen over gen performance and value upgrade, any other stance is opinion based

[frank cypress]

the 1080ti was matched by the 3060 (a now 5yo low end card)

[vagrant cargo]

i recall i did have a 1060 gigabyte windforce card

[frank cypress]

and turing held up better because of dlss

[low sorrel]

I am legally blind and colorblind

[shell void]

you cant slip your turding cards under the door before it closes bro

[cloud vigil]

counterpoint; RTX 4000 bumped clock speeds so high that RTX 3000's only advantage is its VRAM

[vagrant cargo]

i did also own a 8gb gpu at one point but i cant remember which one

[frank cypress]

I mean admittedly turing isn't great nowadays either

[cloud vigil]

4070TiS can trade blows with a 3090 as long as it's not a very VRAM-intense task

[frank cypress]

30 series is as old as anyone should get

[shell void]

yeah but 20 -> 30 was the biggest performance per dollar improvement that nvidia has offered in like 20 years

specifically the 3080

3060 12gb and 3060ti were also great though

[frank cypress]

when will we get a similarly large die for cheap 😔

sick of the small ad103 and gb203

[cloud vigil]

samsung silicon freaky as hell

[frank cypress]

I dont care that its dense its too small

[shell void]

5090s are occasionally obtainable for msrp big bro

$2000 5090 is a good deal

[low sorrel]

My phone says 0%

[frank cypress]

I am not Jeff bezos 🙏

[low sorrel]

Send help

[vagrant cargo]

i managed to get my 5080 under msrp through pure luck

[shell void]

you can justify it for your work 🙏

[frank cypress]

it is though

[frank cypress]

the 4000 ada will be good enough till rubin

[cloud vigil]

sending you this picture of an isopod to waste 1% of your battery

[vagrant cargo]

before they released i managed to win one in a competion i entered that raffle like thing in total i spend 20 pound

[shell void]

fair enough

[frank cypress]

even though the big dies got me a Lil freaky

[vagrant cargo]

i won the gpu , so i spent 20 pound on a 5080 gpu

[shell void]

youre probably enjoying your eco tuned 13900ks and sff ada barely producing any heat

[frank cypress]

its been a lifesaver this summer

last summer I was running a stock 13700k and a 3090 + 4070ti

it was actual death

[shell void]

your new setup is probably less than half that heat output xd

[frank cypress]

oh way less

[vagrant cargo]

guys i have a question? whats the best and most silent airflow stuff i can buy for my pc build, im gonna be upgrading my pc case and maybe my base cooler and fans

[frank cypress]

I remember the old setup would do almost a kw with both the cpu and gpus going at it

[oak vector]

Helo

[shell void]

get any decent pwm fan and run them at a static low speed like 600-1200rpm depending on your room's noise floor

[devout ridge]

fans you turn the speed down on

[vagrant cargo]

my pc isnt loud i just want complete silence im also building a super silent pc keyboard

[frank cypress]

it was absolutely fucking disgusting

[shell void]

arctic p12 pro is a good value fan

[shell void]

☠️

[frank cypress]

930w, as read off of the UPS with only the pc connected

[oak vector]

I wouldn’t even hit 300w full load

[shell void]

i hover around 1KW with my current setup maxed out

one pc + one monitor

[frank cypress]

worth it for the big die energy

optimal pc setup

[oak vector]

Two pc two monitor gang

[shell void]

that's with the frickin 9800x3d so itll be interesting once i get my hands on 16p32e novalake

[oak vector]

64 threads!?

[frank cypress]

novalake and zen6 both look really good

but i dont think im gonna upgrade to either

[shell void]

if you dont really do cpu rendering then that's valid

but if you do then flagship NVL is going to have more than twice the power of your 13900k

[frank cypress]

not much anymore

[shell void]

52c52t

[frank cypress]

like ill do a test render in arnold (and im using VRAY atm too) once and a while but

im gonna be switching to UE5 going forward

[vagrant cargo]

ive entered a raffle and spent a max of 3 pound on tickets to win a 5090 gaming pc wwhat has 4tb ssd im keeping my ram sticks and putting in the new pc if i win it because well the company i ordered my ram from accidentally sent me extra and didnt charge me as one didnt arrive on time i never told them they done that

so free ram

[shell void]

my beloved

[shell void]

elf shawty

[oak vector]

16 + 32 is 48 😔

[shell void]

+4 lpe

in the soc chiplet

zen 6 will be 26c52t, 12+12+2

novalake is 24+24+4

[frank cypress]

wait 26?

where did the extra 2 come from

[shell void]

little cores in the soc just like intel

[frank cypress]

oh wicked

[vagrant cargo]

https://compcitygiveaways.co.uk/the-abyss-rog-rtx-5090-9800x3d-gaming-pc-10-pc-instant-wins-extras/

[frank cypress]

same concept as the lpe cores?

[vagrant cargo]

this is the pc i entered for

only thing thats crap compared to my build atm is the ram

[shell void]

idk what capabilities they have other than they do support smt

[frank cypress]

oh interesting

[shell void]

theyre probably just even more densely compacted zen 6 cores that run at low clocks

no l3 cache maybe

[frank cypress]

hmm, so ZenC basically?

[vagrant cargo]

my build atm is intel and nvidia build wise

anyways with aio cooling i have one question how often do you need to change liquid or dont you?

[frank cypress]

you dont

[shell void]

thats the assumption, but presumably even more compact

[vagrant cargo]

tbh personally ive always used old school airflow

[frank cypress]

:O

[shell void]

if we're allowed to then id probably disable the LP cores in whatever cpu i buy

i dont care about low load efficiency enough to risk scheduling issues

[vagrant cargo]

one case that interests me is the one with the long thin cylinder like fans i can recall the name

they also have a case whats mostly mesh so theres alot of ways air can get in and out

[steady hawk]

Trying to put my power strip plug into a cable management box but it won't fit because the coaxial cables coming out of the end I opened it up, and I was going to just put it onto the side in the box but I'm thinking I can just rip it off from the solder. Any suggestions I'm not an electrician I just want to be safe

[frank cypress]

tbh novalake as a whole seems like a nightmare from that perspective to me

[devout ridge]

the PSU manual

[vagrant cargo]

it was covered on short curcuit back during computex im gonna look through the videos to find it

[shell void]

yeah three different core types across three different chiplets will be interesting

at least intel uses 21st century chiplet packaging

[frank cypress]

you got 3 core types, two across two different chips then the last on the soc or whatever

[devout ridge]

Almost none of them come with a physical manual, google the manual

[frank cypress]

not to mention windows handles anything over 32c like shit afaik

I am really interested and hopeful for novalake though

[shell void]

i think it's 64t so 52c52t should be fine

[frank cypress]

oh that sounds right

[shell void]

or better yet 48c48t with LPE disabled

[frank cypress]

here's to hoping 100k r23

[vagrant cargo]

any pc cases you guys seen you like? i did see a all in one gaming pc that had a great case i do wish they sold the case seperately though

[devout ridge]

T1 v2.1

[vagrant cargo]

id buy the case, also i need to weigh my pc at one point to see if the new desk im aiming to buy can hold the pc on the desk

[shell void]

inshallah

[devout ridge]

most desks have like a 200lb weight rating, how heavy is your PC

[vagrant cargo]

it feels heavy too me sometimes i need to weigh it

[devout ridge]

200lbs heavy?

[vagrant cargo]

i know the case is the corsair 4000d airflow

[frank cypress]

are you running full custom loop

[vagrant cargo]

i cant remember some of the stuff i got in my pc when i build stuff i need to start writing stuff down for future reference

[vagrant cargo]

my pc atm is fully airflow based

[frank cypress]

thats not that heavy then

[vagrant cargo]

i can probably get behind using aio but i will never fully watercool a pc

i dunno im a bit cautious around water near my pc let alone inside it

[frank cypress]

wait till you get a super tower or a custom loop

[devout ridge]

i'm gonna shove a shit load of water cooling into my T1 and have the heaviest 9.95L pc in existence

[vagrant cargo]

i did use to own a pc tower that wasnt tall but extremely wide i liked that case i wish i could remember the name of it

was a chungus of a case

[broken sparrow]

What are your specs 😛

[devout ridge]

7800x3d, 2x48 6000mt/s cl30, 4080S

[vagrant cargo]

that pc case was heavy like stupidly heavy

[frank cypress]

fully seal it off to make it fully submerged and fill the full 9.95l

[vagrant cargo]

even when empty it was hard to move about

[topaz veldt]

And his brother Mike Jones

[vagrant cargo]

i do know im planning on maybe finding a pc case with build area i can easily slide 5 hard drives into ontop of my setup i want in the future

[frank cypress]

@topaz veldt https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1n6tcp4/reupload_my_gpu_collection_nvidia_amdati/

[broken sparrow]

2x 48 for what 😭🙏🏼

[vagrant cargo]

tbh main thing i want tech wise is a pc case where its not glass on side but a giant led display

[frank cypress]

when are we getting the 5nail collection version of this

[shell void]

aura

[devout ridge]

big number good

[vagrant cargo]

what isnt transparent

[frank cypress]

inshallah

big number good indeed

[broken sparrow]

Watch me get 4x 48

[wraith steeple]

آمين

[shell void]

mashallah would be more appropriate

[broken sparrow]

😛

[topaz veldt]

@fringe vigil https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuUB9eqEAU&si=7GQsCsV09hIxpBnA

[frank cypress]

inshallah is god willing right?

[devout ridge]

only 2 dimm slots on ITX boards

[frank cypress]

cant remember what mashallah means

[topaz veldt]

I seen it

[frank cypress]

god fucking dammit samsung autocorrect

[wraith steeple]

Wait till he hears about 2x64GB

[topaz veldt]

Marshall's is a budget conscience shopping outlet store

[devout ridge]

did exist when i built
my PC

otherwise i would have

[frank cypress]

[topaz veldt]

2x48GB 6400 club

[devout ridge]

i think my 7800x3d would cry

[shell void]

yah

[shell void]

nah u got it no worries go for it

i hope there are good 32GB 1R dimms by the time that novalake launches

[vagrant cargo]

i almost brought a hyte y70 with touch screen a week ago

but in the end i dont like the postioning of the i/o

[frank cypress]

lol best buy left a pc on bios

time to feed it 6 gazillion v vcore

[frank zealot]

okay MSI:

XMP and EXPO in the same bios? lol

[frank cypress]

oh wait I just realized that's msi

im so used to the shitty bios my x570 boards had that I didnt realize

[vagrant cargo]

are starforge cases alright?

[shell void]

oh man it’s a 14900k

[vagrant cargo]

my girlfriend said she brought one a week ago

and ive considered looking at them

[shell void]

you could nuke it pretty easily if it’s on an old bios revision

[frank cypress]

give me funny numbers to put in

[shell void]

nawww don’t do it xd

[vagrant cargo]

how much did she spend on a case https://starforgesystems.com/products/frieren-case-bundle

[shell void]

[frank cypress]

xd yeah no i dont want to get in trouble

but it would be really funny

[vagrant cargo]

like good lord max ive ever spend on a case is below 135

[frank cypress]

I should just underclock it to hell

set it to 1ghz across pcore ecore and cache

[edgy laurel]

no one buys this stuff

[shell void]

id be down to spend up to around $500 on a premium case but that's not really a market that exists anymore

most cases entered the race to the bottom of pricing, and anything higher priced is boutique

[frank cypress]

real

[vagrant cargo]

my girlfriend did apparently she brought it last week and it hasnt arrived yet, tbh not sure how long they take to ship them

[frank cypress]

well tbh I like fractal still

ive had two of their cases and they've both been pretty ok, albeit a bit pricey for the north

[edgy laurel]

$400 US on a $100 fishtank with a skin on it

yikes

[frank cypress]

I dont think it is well done either

feels really lazy to me

[vagrant cargo]

she saw a cinnonroll plushie what was super pricey and guess who brought it her

my poor wallet

tbh she wanted me to buy her a 5090 and i laughed and said no ,

tbh i dont think she needs a 5090 based on the fact she plays older mmos and some indie games

the 5090 would be overkill

[frank zealot]

not bad for a USB Drive Copy

[frank cypress]

wait thats fast as hell, how?

[frank zealot]

10gbps NVME USB Dock

[frank cypress]

my t7 shield maxes out at like 40mb/s 🥀

[frank zealot]

Orico USB NVME Dock

[frank cypress]

I see

[shell void]

ballin

[vagrant cargo]

im curious is there any pc cases what are linked to stuff like akira? or junji ito / horror stuff

i want full tower tbh i mostly want a neo tokyo case

[frank zealot]

junji ito is a little niche for it

[frank cypress]

👀

[frank zealot]

someone did this with an oddball design, spraypaint and stickers:

[frank cypress]

I kinda dig it a lil

[frank zealot]

it's very fitting for akira

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[shell void]

four rgb dimms always looks cool

[vagrant cargo]

is some of that case open?

[shell void]

it kills me that it's horrible for overclocking potential

i want cool looking ram that performs well too >:(

[frank cypress]

what about the dummy dimms?

[shell void]

i havent seen tests of them

[frank zealot]

that case is an antec torque

[shell void]

itd be interesting to see how they affect things in a z890 hero

[frank zealot]

there are various similarly styled cases, such as the K1 Pangolin and plenty of others

[frank cypress]

I dont think they really exist for ddr5

corsair made some for ddr4 but didnt seem to continue it for ddr5

[shell void]

i mean theyre going to make your memory hotter because it blocks airflow, but i wonder how they affect the peak obtainable clockspeed

[shell void]

i think v color and corsair do make ddr5 dummies

[frank cypress]

oh they do now? rad

oh yes they do

[wraith steeple]

Corsair has been for a while

[vagrant cargo]

i think case wise my last tower case i had

[wraith steeple]

I remember seeing dummy DDR4s

[vagrant cargo]

i cant recall it had a logo silver and blue or blue and white

it said MG on the case if i recall

[frank cypress]

they have for a long time for ddr4, but ddr5 is fairly recent i think

[shell void]

rgb ecc udimm when?

[vagrant cargo]

probably a company that doesnt exsist now

[frank cypress]

I remember checking like... a year ago, and they didnt exist

[shell void]

what if i want 2x24GB 6400cl52 ecc jedec for my u9 385k on a w880 board but i also want rgb

someone make it happen

[frank cypress]

metallic gear probably

they were owned by phantek anyways

[shell void]

the phanteks fall from glory will be studied for generations

[vagrant cargo]

i remember the tower case was stupidly tall

its funny i had my first pc case wise fat and deep and very wide so lots of unused space inside

[frank zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/ATX-Gaming-Case-Computer-Tempered/dp/B093ZWV7W2?th=1
Seems overpriced, but kinda cool lookin

[vagrant cargo]

then one thats too tall then the one thats just about right the corsair 4000d airflow

[frank cypress]

doesnt have the aura of the overpriced tank case

@frank zealot is your ssd still dead?

[frank zealot]

one yes, one came back

[frank cypress]

o_0

man that's scary

[vagrant cargo]

Dual Chamber pc case is what i might go for when i do change my case tbh i like my 4000d airflow pc case i might just stick with corsair and that line but the upgraded ones

[frank zealot]

the work SSD was dead dead, even a dock in another PC didn't recognize it

mine at home eventually came back, after powering off the PC for a while

[frank cypress]

coincidence or the windows update?

[frank zealot]

no way to tell, as far as I can tell

[frank cypress]

[oak vector]

Idk my next case is gonna be small and it’s gonna have walnut wood on it

Or. I’m gonna laser cut it from the ground up

[frank zealot]

but very coincidental

[frank cypress]

ive been holding off just in case

[frank zealot]

when I reinstalled windows, that exact update was sitting there to be installed

[frank cypress]

hmm

[frank zealot]

my home drive was a WD SN750, so a good drive ... fuck editing

[frank cypress]

wait

I think my windows drive is a sn750

[vagrant cargo]

if i dont win that pc in that competition and i just change a few things in my pc i might go for the CORSAIR 6500D AIRFLOW Mid-Tower case

[steel stream]

explode?

[frank zealot]

looking at the wrong SN750

SN 750 = DRAM + Triton MP28 controller

SN750 SE = HMB + Phison

[steel stream]

so it's like an iPhone? SE is the shitty one?

[frank zealot]

clearly

[frank cypress]

2 practically new 4tb drives for 100 cad, not bad

[turbid locust]

damn get me the hookup

Mac “needs” a NAS

[frank zealot]

OH, they bumped the SE up to PCIE 4, while the reg 750 was PCIE 3

[frank cypress]

some dude off Facebook

[steel stream]

oh that's nice I suppose

[turbid locust]

lol

[frank cypress]

I just need some hard drives cause my 2tb ssd is getting a Lil full

[steel stream]

gotta fill it all up with 50 + mbps 4K movies

[frank cypress]

I want to offload my older projects and shit onto the hard drives till I get the nas up and running

[turbid locust]

real

[vagrant cargo]

im curious guys Rail Fan Mounting systems how much easier would you say those make maintaing a pc like cleanliness is

[frank zealot]

like, the long grooves, vs holes?

[vagrant cargo]

Corsair 9000D RGB Airflow Super Full-Tower PC Case

[frank zealot]

oh, the knock off caselabs from Corsair?

[vagrant cargo]

wise im considering getting that over the dual chamber pc case i mentioned

[steel stream]

dream

[vagrant cargo]

i know im defintly sticking to using corsair cases

i love my 4000d airflow case

[steel stream]

but honestly, could probs get for cheaper from serverpartdeals

[frank zealot]

actually a bit higher there
but a more reliable seller

[steel stream]

interesting

[vagrant cargo]

im curious did corsair at computex announce any new cases? to go after the 9000d or the 6500D AIRFLOW

[frank zealot]

iirc those are both fairly new

[vagrant cargo]

tbh im very close to buying the 9000d at the moment looks neat and tbh i just like cases that massive

also the rail system looks super handy

[frank cypress]

waste of money if you aren't going custom loop

[vagrant cargo]

im aiming at aio or airflow

most likely aio

[frank zealot]

or building a whole diorama inside the case

[vagrant cargo]

as i do wanna try aio

[frank zealot]

waste of money on that case then

[steel stream]

try aio?

[frank cypress]

or that too, sure

[wraith steeple]

[vagrant cargo]

never done one before mostly only airflow on the 3 to 4 pc cases ive owned since i was 11

[frank cypress]

but tbh id still rather get a normal midtower and get a mora or smth

[frank zealot]

dude, I'ma build in the 9000D and then put a full lego star wars battle scene in it

[vagrant cargo]

my first pc was a prebuilt in a mirco case

when i was in college apart of my it and media course first eyar of college we learnt to build pc

[frank cypress]

the expensive parts will be the Lego and not the pc parts loooool

[vagrant cargo]

since then my last 2 pc i have built my self

[wraith steeple]

Mine was from when AT was still a thing

[frank zealot]

that's fine and all, but getting a case that's 2.5 times the size of a normal PC case just to use an AIO is dumb

[vagrant cargo]

the last one took me ages which is my current because of covid and other stuff i was quite broke for a year or 2 after covid

mostly the company i used to work for i realised they werent paying me correctly

[frank zealot]

unless you plan to raise hampsters in the bottom of the case

[vagrant cargo]

so i quit a year ago and moved to a new area

is there any cases with a rail system you guys recommend for aio?

[steel stream]

saw this at Target the other day, collapses into a book sized package so you can put on a shelf, took all my willpower not to buy

[frank cypress]

man thats sick as fuck

[frank zealot]

why the obsession with the rail system?

[vagrant cargo]

i kind of since ive seen a few videos with rail system cases in them really like them

[steel stream]

what's the case worm has

[vagrant cargo]

its handy and also everytime i screwed stuff in to my current pc a screw would fall under motherboard or in a hard to reach place in the case

[steel stream]

the lego lord of the ring stuff is awesome

[vagrant cargo]

for example one screw fell out and was hiding in a hard to reach place at corner of my fan

[frank zealot]

get a better screwdriver

[vagrant cargo]

i have ltt stuff

the smaller one and the big one tbh

[frank zealot]

get magnetic screws

[frank cypress]

ive been trying to keep myself away from lego because I used to love that shit and I dont need another money pit hobby

[vagrant cargo]

i aim planning on getting a precision screw driver

[frank cypress]

but man is the new stuff awesome

[steel stream]

I think Lian Li 217 has a rail system

[vagrant cargo]

i also have a pen with mini screw driver in it

or screw head

[vagrant cargo]

i want the lego gameboy

[steel stream]

what I would give for this

[vagrant cargo]

be sick if we got lego of other consoles but fall size that be awesome

lego full sized ps1

i want that if they ever make one

[frank cypress]

sauron minifig goes hard

[steel stream]

yeah here we go lian li 217

[steel stream]

luckily I do have this, so I've got a few cool sets

[frank cypress]

damn they really captured the likeness of the delorean well

kinda amazing to me

[steel stream]

the power of smooth chrome pieces

[vagrant cargo]

howls moving castle as a lego big replica would be awesome

[steel stream]

I need a Godzilla lego

or a jaeger from Pacific Rim

[frank cypress]

Cherno alpha as a set 🙏

[steel stream]

that would be sick lol

make it fully posable too, lego can do it

I forgot that they made the Ornithopter from Dune

[heavy mantle]

i bet you pull sm

[steel stream]

holy shit this is awesome

[steel stream]

I don't have it with me at college :(

I also need to buy another Back to the future poster, I ripped my other one

[frank cypress]

omg wally

[vagrant cargo]

that seems alright how easy is it for the side panels to come out though i dont want to move it and the panels just fall out

[steel stream]

probs fine

[young void]

Front comes off

[steel stream]

honestly should have spent all my pc upgrade money on lego tbh

[young void]

And the tops its noicee, thought I broke it at first and then was like ohhh intended feature lol

[vagrant cargo]

wait if lian li 217 is recommended to have its psu in the side

instead of back how does the cable for the psu plug get out of the case?

[turbid locust]

Probably an extension like they do in the A3

[pure garnet]

i got a bench drive mac for when i get a china apex for the 13700k

256gb ewaste ssd i got for free 🔥

[turbid locust]

swag 🔥

[pure garnet]

first time i've ever owned a silicon power

i hope it works tho i got it because the windows install on an old laptop died entirely

[turbid locust]

I swear I bought a cheap bench NVMe somewhere but I CANNOT find it

It’s like a 256GB or some shit I think but I have no idea where it is

[pure garnet]

i have a few of those kicking around

didn't think to use them honestly

[turbid locust]

I need one for the home server I’m gonna build

[pure garnet]

is that with the 7700x

[shell void]

@merry stirrup has the 5070ti changed your life?

[vagrant cargo]

are alot of pc cases doing the no screws or things to tighten and secure the side panels?

[edgy laurel]

various methods have been used for years. captive thumbscrews, fancy levers. yes

[indigo walrus]

Some do. Some don't. Some even require a screwdriver in 2025.

[edgy laurel]

hell Apple was doing it in the 90's

[wise bear]

hello pls select level for me

literally anyone

[edgy laurel]

ready or not?

[wise bear]

[edgy laurel]

google lens

[steel stream]

ides of march

[edgy laurel]

valley of the dolls

(because it sounds creepy)

[steel stream]

the game is so unnerving to play, stresses me out but is fun

[merry stirrup]

i want a 5090

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-i-did-saw-that-coming-saw-it-coming-foresight-gif-14337702585479083289

also stop mr. 1440p

[shell void]

the pipeline is so real

[edgy laurel]

couldn't even use it

[merry stirrup]

i dont get 360 frames

[shell void]

once you get a taste of the blackwell greatness you want more

[merry stirrup]

still gpu bound

[steel stream]

I want a 4000 sff blackwell pro

[frank cypress]

the 5070ti to 5090 gateway is real

[merry stirrup]

i think i just like fast computer

[frank cypress]

so did the other two

[steel stream]

I will not fall victim to the 5090 pipeline

[frank cypress]

real shi

[merry stirrup]

id say the most lifechanging part of the 70ti is the heat my computer puts off

its not always at max tdp in every game (even like 150w in bloons on the 800xt iirc)

[frank cypress]

none compared to the 3080

crying baby vs thermonuclear bomb

[merry stirrup]

well even the 800xt which is my baseline cause its a faster video card

800xt is more efficient and a little faster but

[shell void]

no dlss no talk

[merry stirrup]

yeah still not great

[vagrant cargo]

hmmmmm im considering going for a Antec Flux Pro case

for one i love where the i/o is compared to the lian li 217

[vagrant cargo]

the main thing im curious about would the antec 900 be good over the flux pro

because with the 900 they got the io area at top can be removed making putting in radiators easier

or holding stuff in

with my hand

[edgy laurel]

did you just say the Antec 900

... like.. the gamer case to have of 2009

i/o area.. radiators.. my dude that case is 16+ years old

no, it would be horrible today

[shell void]

makin good use of that 13900ks

[merry stirrup]

yes

[shell void]

avoiding amdip in bloons

[edgy laurel]

🤮

nothing about that is good "for radiators"

[low sorrel]

that is the most 2000s pc i've ever seen

[shell void]

it’s crazy what they used to charge a lot for

[vapid belfry]

Hey Floppa

So I just got my new 1440p UW monitor but now my games stutter like crazy

What am I doing wrong here

[vagrant cargo]

they remade it it was shown of at computex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20BGBiv7Qw0

tbh i kind of like the look of it

tbh i like the look of the radiator they shown in this video with the adjustable screen connected to it

im gonna research noise levels for antec radiators

and see if that new one has released yet

tbh if i go aio that sort of thing would be neat

tbh i dont see the point in having each middle bit of a aio radiator having its own screen i rather just have one so im mostly likely buying that

ok so i watched another video release for the aio with screen should be september to next month

[brisk jolt]

how original

[vagrant cargo]

tbh if i want a screen attached to it i rather not have the middle of the aio been a screen

at least with antecs Vortex View its adjustale

so tilt and swivel then tighten

actually that system is similar to my mini projects tripod stand in a way

[brisk jolt]

apparently disabling my igpu causes random crashes

well, not crashes but freezes

[fervent scaffold]

Makes me giggle

[shell void]

265k the value goat 🗣️

[hoary hatch]

Buy 285k from best buy

Stick sandy bridge core i3 in box

Return it

[heavy mantle]

yes sir

[edgy laurel]

good luck

not something people really publish since they don't make any noise

[pure garnet]

fr

esp if you got it from newegg on august 25th

[vagrant cargo]

even if i win that new pc i entered a competition for i dont like the case it comes in

i will buy the antex flow pro

case wise i really like

[languid nimbus]

That's uhh

[languid nimbus]

Cool

[vagrant cargo]

love postioning of everything only thing i might have issues is with is the side panels not been secured super well

[languid nimbus]

Guys is there any good 30$ cases

[hoary hatch]

Realistically, no

[edgy laurel]

not new

[hoary hatch]

If you want a $30 case find a $10 or free case on marketplace

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/dread-gif-9297534368979050018

[wise bear]

guys i want a $5 case with argb pls find for me

guys pick my ram

[languid nimbus]

DIY it

[vagrant cargo]

you know i have never seen the point in rgb on cases

[languid nimbus]

Download the RAM

[vagrant cargo]

i never use it

[wise bear]

guys is this build good (not going to build it)

[vagrant cargo]

only rgb on my pc build atm is my motherboard

[edgy laurel]

says the guy who wants a case full of screens

[languid nimbus]

It is good

[brisk jolt]

guys rate my build (filled with fuckass expensive unifans and a fuckass 5080 in a fuckass O11)

I say its bad and “OH YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE 9070XT GLAZERS ARENT YA”

[vagrant cargo]

yeah but with screens you can have themes using a whole screen as a side panel over glass to customise a pc case and its theme but with rgb all you can do is chance colours

[languid nimbus]

Too broke for a 5080 so can't be me 🔥

[vagrant cargo]

i rather have a big screen i can use to change a cases theme over changing colours

[brisk jolt]

i said to some kid and showed him a b580 and he said “ur one of those people who think the 9070xt is goated arent ya”

[languid nimbus]

Ill just do a cardboard box with a fan blowing cool air into it

[vagrant cargo]

tbh im personally waiting for the day we have pc cases where the whole side panel are screens

there was one in the past but it was transparent

[edgy laurel]

what makes you think thats something that will happen

[vagrant cargo]

and i didnt like how that looked

[hoary hatch]

Yeah your epyc 92 core will work fine with checks list the used GTX 650 you found in the Wendy's dumpster

[languid nimbus]

Not bad

[vagrant cargo]

honestly given how insane some pc cases look sometimes theres a good chance it could happen one day

i dont think we will get a whole side panel but something like half the side panel been a screen