tech-chat-2

[rotund elk]

I know about that i have to call the isp to ask how i should do then if they can like connect it together from there end and I don't have to get expensive switches and stuff

[fringe vigil]

if you fcked with enzo at this point in the game its over for you

[topaz veldt]

a residential ISP is not installing fiber switches

[pure garnet]

isp will probably just have a contract for the building, no?

no switches needed or joined connections or weird vlan stuff

[topaz veldt]

they'll have a dmarc and then do separate runs

[brave panther]

magic

[frank zealot]

I played WC 1 and 2 on my 286

[rotund elk]

It is seperate runs now to the street somwmehow its 8 cables

[vestal granite]

yeah so the blue things arent the fibers actually thats the sheathing stuff

[brave panther]

ew mm

[vestal granite]

it goes around the fiber

[topaz veldt]

yeaaah

its just not happening

they are going to have to provide some level of QoS to each residence, they can't just... put a switch

So from liability, accountability, and quality its just not happening

If you are lucky you can get a contract with an ISP to discount if you provide the whole building connections

[vestal granite]

but if you contact them to ask they will sell you something to solve your problem i bet

[pure garnet]

yeah my building is setup exactly how 5nail is talking about, central box, 4 individual boxes and then an ont to run cat into the home

[frank zealot]

That fiber room would give me nightmares

[brave panther]

QOS?
on residential lmao

[topaz veldt]

Yes - its oftentimes the phone, also

[brave panther]

voip sure, just mark the packet with qos tag

[vestal granite]

is this gonna be a whole thing i dont have popcorn ready

[brave panther]

the funny thing is that one of our ISP CPE's is just a switch

[fringe vigil]

snail when we play warzone

[indigo walrus]

I would STRONGLY not recommend this. If you're providing the internet as a "free" inclusion (that you've baked into the rent price), this looks great on paper... until that one tenant decides to perform illegal activities on the connection that YOU will be liable for because it's in YOUR name...

If you still want to "include" internet in the rent, the only thing I'd maybe do is install a few WiFi Access Points in common areas that are connected back to an internet connection you control so you can offer "free speed-limited WiFi" to your tenants. If they need more speed or wired connections, they can still sign up for a dedicated residential ISP account / plan for their rental unit.

[onyx raft]

could you add a 'clause' for that + can't the request be tracked to a specific device by either the building router or the renter's routers?

oh

nvm that was dumb

[novel storm]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-Ryzen-7-9700X-Radeon-RX-7800-XT-Gaming-PC-Ryzen-7-9700X-32GB-DDR5-1TB-SSD-Windows-11/15743755942?wmlspartner=imp_1986006&clickid=TWv17zUF7xycTSQUq6T0OTFaUkpzcHVXW1kV080&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_TWv17zUF7xycTSQUq6T0OTFaUkpzcHVXW1kV080&veh=aff&affiliates_ad_id=1167790&campaign_id=9383&sharedid= is this a good pc?

[rotund elk]

Ah wifi Mesh

[topaz veldt]

Well so is mine but it doesn't have my neighbors on it

[cerulean cosmos]

no

you are bad at asking questions

[novel storm]

breh

[topaz veldt]

Or do what any other place would do... get a contract for the building that is a promotional price or... simply credit them for internet.

but don't play ISP

You also get in the game of outages, replacing equipment, "its slow and I need it for work I work from home" its insane to even consider, personally

[indigo walrus]

The ISP won't care about any clauses you impose downstream - as far as the ISP is concerned, YOU are the LEGAL account holder and thus are responsible for following their ToS. (Which coincidentally might actually prohibit you from providing shared WiFi based access in the first place, too.)

[indigo walrus]

No, it's shipped and sold from a third party whose website I cannot find anywhere on the internet. They also sell on Shein so um... absolutely not. If anything breaks or goes wrong, you'll likely get ZERO support.

[novel storm]

hm

ok

[topaz veldt]

Would you all be happy with this using Unifi U7 Pro and U7 Pro Wall APs?

[indigo walrus]

Impossible to say without knowing what the ISP is supposed to be providing, the distance from your AP's, the client device, firewall rules, and how heavily loaded / used the network currently is.

[topaz veldt]

this is LAN

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[topaz veldt]

layer 2 access

[indigo walrus]

Ah, see that would be very helpful to include in your question! Still, does your LAN have 10Gig connectivity? (I assume so, given the upload speed...) And between what devices is this test being run? (Specs can affect speeds.)

[topaz veldt]

2.5 Gbps to the APs

[brave panther]

3ms ping on lan
simply unacceptable

[topaz veldt]

this is a macbook pro like 30' away from the nearest AP

[indigo walrus]

In that case, yes, I'd consider this very good for a WiFi speedtest within the LAN. Unless I needed more speed, gigabit is plenty good for everyday tasks.

[topaz veldt]

I want moar!

[brave panther]

wigig moment

[topaz veldt]

I guess I can't complain there are 45 devices on wifi

[brave panther]

how many are connected to that particular ap

[topaz veldt]

17

pretty good distribution

[brave panther]

what bandwidth do you have 6ghz set to? 160mhz?

i am looking at these ap's https://www.omadanetworks.com/us/business-networking/omada-wifi-ceiling-mount/eap772/

[topaz veldt]

160

actually one device has 320

[brave panther]

try to see if you notice any diffrence on speed

and theoretically range at 320 should be worse

[topaz veldt]

range is not a big issue here though

im gonna try 320 on all of them

[merry stirrup]

meow

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[topaz veldt]

these are only 2x2 mimo

[shell void]

320MHz ftw (with one or two APs total)

160 is probably better if you have several so there is less or preferably no overlap

iirc 6GHz in the USA only has space for two non-overlapping 320MHz channels

[turbid locust]

9800X3D may get returned

Think I would rather have the $500 and just cope on Z790 for awhile

[fringe vigil]

where things went bad

[pure garnet]

intel bros

e core 🔥🔥🔥

[turbid locust]

Memetel

[topaz veldt]

how did Cyber Punk 2077 become so referred to

its not even that good of a game

[pure garnet]

because it gets all the nvidia tech demo stuff asap

artstyle also works great for showcasing rt

[shell void]

thats cap

kill corpo rats 🗣️

[turbid locust]

what

[shell void]

cookin

yeah i would just keep the 14900k 100%

[pure garnet]

considering you were not reusing the hdv for zen 6 i’ve been in keep 14900k camp

[shell void]

a 14900k with tuned high speed memory is more than adequate for a 144Hz display, and it's better than the 9800x3d for everything else

[turbid locust]

I dont trust this at all btw. I saw errors 2 hours in at 8000

[topaz veldt]

weird

[ripe flicker]

ohmydays my keyboard..

[shell void]

ill probably end up giving my 9800x3d to my dad where he will use it at stock with 2x32 4800 jedec for a long time

[turbid locust]

dropped the 9800X3D back to 2000 FCLK again and it’s seemingly happy now again so

[shell void]

he's still rocking a 10900f

[turbid locust]

I guess the 13 hours of Karhu and 10 hours of linpack I did at 2133 was a troll

[ripe flicker]

what do I have to download again? to resolve this problem..

[pure garnet]

didn’t he have your zen 1 setup before that

[topaz veldt]

thats so meh

[shell void]

yah

[pure garnet]

does he only play peggle

[shell void]

he plays clash of clans and war friends

on my alienware aw3423dwf

with a 10900f and gtx 1070

[turbid locust]

I get trolled it is what it is

[topaz veldt]

poor mac

[shell void]

6400 just isnt meant to be bro

[topaz veldt]

what 1:1 settings are you after, i'll test my 9800X3D

[shell void]

if youre at 1.28vsoc after minimizing then it's ego clocking

go for gear 2 or concede and minimize vsoc at 6000

[pure garnet]

6200 not worth?

[shell void]

single ccd chips have like ddr5 4400 bandwidth lmao

the real world difference between running 3000uclk and 3200uclk is essentially nothing

we just run 6400 because it looks cooler in screenshots

[pure garnet]

i am 5 hours deep into my xmp karhu test

max memory temp of 54c so far

[shell void]

you need the DDR Wind Blade

absolute game changer for sure

[pure garnet]

i’ll set it up eventually

i’ll probably order meshify once i get my ram refund

[shell void]

hopefully that doesnt have the signature fractal design front intake turbulence whistle

[pure garnet]

master computer user bending case during mobo swap

[edgy laurel]

Was ist das?

[shell void]

intake obstructions causing turbulence that sounds like whirring or whistling depending on the fan used and the rpm

it happens on meshify 2 and north

i think there have been reports of turbulence in the terra as well

[hoary hatch]

Finished Horizon: Zero Dawn playthrough on pc

Very fun and even though I don't have the remaster it's still gorgeous

Now I must suffer and wait for steam autumn sale to get forbidden west

[edgy laurel]

was very strange to me that they did a remaster seemingly so soon, but I need to remind myself it came out in 2017.

PC just got it much later

[hoary hatch]

I booted up forbidden west on PS5 today

1. fidelity mode feels so bad. If that's 30fps, that's a rough 30fps
2. balanced is FSR or some other temporal thing, looks pretty bad
3. performance mode feels good enough but it doesn't look as good as HZD does on PC
4. I fucking hate using a controller in this game

[fringe vigil]

story?

[pure garnet]

that's why im gonna get it on amazon

so they pay return shipping if it sucks

[buoyant hedge]

Here's the more "annoying' part of the R5 5500: If you're using a budget GPU that runs on PCI-E 4.0x4 (or maybe even x8), you'll actually be running those at PCI-E 3.0x4 or x8, so you'd literally be cutting the bandwidth in half since PCI-E4x4 is equivalent to PCI-E 3x8, and Gen4x8 = Gen3x16.

[pure garnet]

the 5500 has half the cache which regresses to basically zen 2 perf

the chip is just a colossal waste of money

[buoyant hedge]

A 12400F is only like $30 more and is better in every way. Also LGA 1700 is (arguably) less dead than AM4 since with the right board you can get a 14700K or 14900K, which outperforms everything on AM4.

[pure garnet]

okay after 5.5h i going to try using my computer

being on alder lake and half refresh rate is getting annoying

[pure garnet]

if i shut off vt-d i’ll be sub 70ns i think @shell void

[crimson widget]

Is this area more than 3 slots? I am thinking of buying a 5070 ti and I am wondering if it will block my other pcle lanes

[pure garnet]

that area is like 4

[crimson widget]

it looks pretty spacey to me

[topaz veldt]

nah

[pure garnet]

i just got 70.1

[topaz veldt]

vt-d doesn't do much - i disable it so core isolation/mem integrity goes away

[crimson widget]

I remember some motherboards used to do the pcle lanes one after another, but it seems like mobo companies seems to account for the fact that gpus are getting giant?

[pure garnet]

but rn aida still says hypervisor with hvcs off

[shell void]

did you turn this off after reinstalling windows?

[pure garnet]

yeah

i need to turn secure boot back on so i'll dig through the bios for vt-d anyway

[serene sonnet]

Yo speaking of 12400, my server plans where someone recommended me a 12400 CPU, the server that would run a few minecraft servers 1-2 modded and some vanilla, max players would probably be 10. And probably some other smaller stuff like webserver and what not I want to lab with. Instead of going the i5 12400, I looked at amd ryzen 5 7600 and it ended up being similar pricing (and newer playform) would the be a dumb move for my application

[pure garnet]

well i guess vtd is stuck on

i disabled it in the bios, it is still on

[limpid nacelle]

Hello guys, I recently upgraded from a 1660 super to a RTX 5060 ti (16gb version), I can say I saw a pretty good leap in performance, but I feel it too little, maybe I don’t have any optimisation? Since I am also considering to go to 1440p, any settings recommendations will be noted.

[pure garnet]

yeah first thing on reddit people are doing is flashing modded bioses, i am not doing that lol

[steel stream]

yeah, switching from playing PS5 games on a 4K 55" from 12' away, to playing on my 42" C4 was quite the shock

It did not look anywhere near as good lol

I still need forbidden west for my PC

[serene sonnet]

Comparing the CPUs on paper, the amd one looks to reach better scores both single and multi core. But perhaps it would be harder to cool or use more power (possibly due to how the 7000 series act) despite having the same tdp?

[steel stream]

if you can afford it I would go for 7600

[pure garnet]

power is power, unless you plan on hosting jellyfin get whatever you find better

[serene sonnet]

Why would it change if I plan on hosting jellyfin, because it’s something I’ve been wanting to try

[pure garnet]

intel igpus have quicksync

[serene sonnet]

Realistically with the price the i5 12400 is at, going all new platform is no joke quite similar in price

[pure garnet]

which is basically the best you can do for transcoding or video editing

[turbid locust]

what? no there’s a noticeable performance difference lol

[serene sonnet]

Yeah that probably really tops the basic integrated graphics the amd CPU offers

[pure garnet]

well it also tops nvenc with an external card

[steel stream]

it blows them out of the water

[serene sonnet]

Oh holy shit, that’s crazy then

[pure garnet]

that’s why old intel desktop is meta for jellyfin servers

[shell void]

6% higher imc clock aint doin nothin man

[pure garnet]

basically anything skylake and newer? is plug and play on linux

[topaz veldt]

I wish I could run 8000 CL30 without 1.67v

[turbid locust]

realistically I just stay on 14900k lol

[shell void]

maybe if youre comparing 6000cl26 to 6400cl26 because youre lowering latency by doing that

[onyx raft]

awoogah

[shell void]

🙏

[serene sonnet]

I might just look at the 12400 anyway then because if I want to try running jellyfin, it sure sounds like I’d want that

[pure garnet]

i need a z890 apex to shut off vtd fr

[turbid locust]

Idk I just like to run my ram at the bleeding edge

This all started when I found out my 5600x could do 4000c16 on stock voltages lmao

I blame that chip

[serene sonnet]

Is there any other recommendations for a fitting CPU for my application or is the 12400 really just the best at that price point?

(Other intel cpu that is)

[steel stream]

I would try and go for a 12700 if you could but idk anything about prices

[shell void]

same but 2000fclk is 64GB/s read and 32GB/s write lmao

[turbid locust]

real

[pure garnet]

i forgot i have an adult imc now

no more baby bandwidth

[crimson widget]

Does the PNY one have smaller fans or am I tripping?

[serene sonnet]

Well it’s about $100 more (converted from SEK)

[crimson widget]

3 slot rather than 2, but shorter and smaller fans
what do I make out of this

[shell void]

praise god

[pure garnet]

i ran aida like 4 times hoping for a 69.8ns screenshot but

no luck

just had to complain

we are so back

[turbid locust]

I haven’t ran Aida in a bajillion years

I care about ram bandwidth about as much as I care about core count

[pure garnet]

the only "useful" part of it is the latency screenshot

[serene sonnet]

Would that extra price be worth the extra cores and such?

Idk how much my application would realistically use as I haven’t really tried it on a strong system

[steel stream]

nah, how much is something like a 13600 or 14600

[pure garnet]

2 p cores is not worth $100 imo

[steel stream]

yeah

[serene sonnet]

The 13600 doesn’t seem to be sold, and the 14600 (k version) seems to be roughly 10 more, a bit more for the non k it seems

[steel stream]

compared to 12400 or 12700

[merry stirrup]

goppa is back home

[serene sonnet]

12400

[steel stream]

go for 14600 then

[pure garnet]

wb

[steel stream]

14600k

[serene sonnet]

How much more expensive would that technically be to run 24/7

Isn’t it quite power hungry?

[pure garnet]

are you running it at 100% load 24/7

power limit is 182w but realistically you won't pull that 90% of the time

[serene sonnet]

Nah lol, just thinking the idle draw

[pure garnet]

oh it'll be like nothing then

14600k is monolithic

couple watts

[serene sonnet]

Oh wait, do I need ddr5 for those?

[pure garnet]

you can get ddr4 boards

it's like ~10% perf penalty but cheaper

[serene sonnet]

Though ddr4 seems unwise at this point possibly, though if I want larger quantities

[steel stream]

for a server it's nothing crazy

[serene sonnet]

@steel stream @pure garnet realistically, this could maybe be it? https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/RL26HW

Just a quick list, didn’t pay too much attention to components

[pure garnet]

yeah that’s solid

[serene sonnet]

How are the rep for the 14th gen CPUs nowadays tho?

Are they reliable to have in a server?

[merry stirrup]

not great for that but for different reasons

ecores kinda poo in a server

[serene sonnet]

Then this build is ass wtf, intel does fake cores? (I’m not up to date)

Or well more fake than anything I’ve used it sounds like

[shell void]

naw twin just disable the efficiency cores and then youre cruising

[edgy laurel]

fake?

[serene sonnet]

Okay not the right word, I just read what it actually was, and it’s like low power cores, and I mean it doesn’t seem that bad, just maybe not fit for my application

[hoary hatch]

I played the base game on PS4 many years ago
Replayed base game + dlc (first time) on PC recently. 10/10 story you should play it

[turbid locust]

spot the difference

[hoary hatch]

It was I think 40% off during steam summer sale, I expect the same for the autumn sale. I play to pick it up

[turbid locust]

@shell void is this a bandwidth diff or corecount diff or both? lol. Both have been running for roughly the same amount of time but ones double the coverage

[steel stream]

Zero Dawn is so good

one of my top 5 games for sure

[merry stirrup]

the intel memory controller

[hoary hatch]

Yeah I am tempted to NG+ while I wait for the autumn sale

[shell void]

i have no idea tbh, i think bandwidth is a good educated guess

[hoary hatch]

But I should probably do other things instead of playing games

[shell void]

youre moving more data in the same amount of time

[merry stirrup]

bandwidth and cores yeah

it’s why yo dimms get warmer on intel

[steel stream]

nuh uh uh

[merry stirrup]

just utilized more

[pure garnet]

common intel memory controller victory

[oak vector]

hmmmm

[hoary hatch]

But actually I probably should

[oak vector]

modern intel mem controllers are pretty good yeah

[topaz veldt]

my son wants me to setup a minecraft java server

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-mood-me-face-gif-7842240

[arctic bronze]

that wont take long

like 5 min

[topaz veldt]

its not that

its that he'll have like 5 MC bedrocks

and now a java one

[arctic bronze]

oh lmao

[pure garnet]

wow

[arctic bronze]

he wants infinite servers lmao

[fringe vigil]

mc boring

[pure garnet]

how do you handle other people connecting the server

i had my friends go through a cloudflare tunnel

[arctic bronze]

portforwarding/domain

[steel stream]

yeah I need to do some more work, I did my homework but I need to update my resume which is hell

[topaz veldt]

hes young so we don't

[topaz veldt]

he has all these different modes/worlds

[oak vector]

goat

[pure garnet]

that still exposes my residential ip

[arctic bronze]

thats why you use a domain

[arctic bronze]

lmao

[topaz veldt]

domain resolves

[pure garnet]

which would still point to the ip

[topaz veldt]

but who cares about your IP

[arctic bronze]

not a big issue

[pure garnet]

i just wanted to avoid the people that scan for residential ranges to mess with worlds

[topaz veldt]

if someone sends you a link to something and they host it, they have your IP

[oak vector]

what kinda of hardware are you running
also, are you using any management software like mcserversoft or crafty controller? or do you just do files and folders, no fancy front end

[arctic bronze]

if ur super worried about it, seperate the server to a vlan

[topaz veldt]

I am using AMP. I have monster servers.

but java is single thready

[arctic bronze]

never heard of it

[oak vector]

mhmmm

[oak vector]

never used amp, but, cool

[arctic bronze]

world gen will use as much cpu as you can give it tho

[indigo walrus]

If you use Minecraft's built-in whitelisting system, nobody but users you whitelist can connect...

[indigo walrus]

AMP is love; is life. ❤️ Made by the same people behind the super popular (at the time) MCMyAdmin console.

[brisk jolt]

what tf they gonna do with the ip- drive to ur location? tell ur ip in binary?

[arctic bronze]

uh, what

[topaz veldt]

we have all the CPUs and RAM

[arctic bronze]

i assume you gotta pay for the licences

[pure garnet]

idc about the ip itself being broadcast i was just too lazy to whitelist people everytime someone wanted to join

[arctic bronze]

it looks to be one of those large scale deployment softwares

[topaz veldt]

AMP?

[steel stream]

I don't think 5nail is messing around with anything outside of vanilla rn

[oak vector]

not a fan of it being paid, but looks pretty good

[arctic bronze]

thats a you issue then

[topaz veldt]

well he wants mods... so thats why he wants java

[edgy laurel]

akn i'm not gonna let it go until you watch that video

[indigo walrus]

It's like, $15 CAD for lifetime access to Standard edition. https://cubecoders.com/AMP

[steel stream]

I stand corrected

[arctic bronze]

its a guess, as iv not heard of it until now lol

[steel stream]

what mods?

[arctic bronze]

oh damn

[topaz veldt]

he watches this dude on youtube, one was like "random spawn when you break a block" mod

[arctic bronze]

they are all cheap

[oak vector]

pretty reasonable pricing if you have a wide variety of games and wanna be the cool friend who always hosts the servers 💪

[topaz veldt]

I have "AMP Advanced"

[indigo walrus]

Yup. So long as you're not running it commercially (for which you need a monthly Enterprise license) they don't really care how you operate things. And they're VERY active in their Discord.

[arctic bronze]

thats dope af

[steel stream]

be prepared, so many mods for minecraft and dealing with all the different versions can be fun

[arctic bronze]

tbh, thats like the best deal

[oak vector]

I actually love game server deployment idk why.
Setting it all up, and watching it all work and seeing people use it.

[topaz veldt]

thats why i was face palming

[arctic bronze]

whats the difference between enterprise and non?

[topaz veldt]

I used to run a like top 20 Team Fortress server lol

[indigo walrus]

It says on the page I linked... Same page where you got your screenshot.

[steel stream]

another issue is that you might have mods that are both client and server

[oak vector]

how's the single core perf on your servers?

[arctic bronze]

I was looking right as I said that lmao, i didnt see it XD

[topaz veldt]

This one is xeon 6248R

[oak vector]

yeah^^^
easiest way is to create a curseforge pack
and send the link, so people download curseforge, and just install and go.

[topaz veldt]

yeah dude it is going to be a mess

[steel stream]

godspeed soldier, godspeed 🫡

[arctic bronze]

so enterprise is basically like Alternos to where ppl can buy/rent servers for their games?

[turbid locust]

I don’t even have HWinfo open to see temps cause I ran it as a joke

[topaz veldt]

Dunno why java version does this

[oak vector]

what's the sort of age bracket? like are these kids who wouldn't know how to save an image from chrome, or are they more competent than that

[topaz veldt]

My son is just 7, but he's very intelligent

but yeah its going to be ... interesting

[indigo walrus]

Sleep mode is a setting you can configure in AMP's management panel. MC Servers go to "sleep" after X minutes when nobody's logged onto the server by default to save on resource usage, but you should be able to disable that.

[oak vector]

aw cute.
I love that haha, chad dad fr

[topaz veldt]

we don't need none of that shit

[topaz veldt]

lil bro plays on a 9800X3D/5090

[arctic bronze]

you should teach him computer stuff

[arctic bronze]

dude is spoiled XD

[oak vector]

LOL
i love that

[topaz veldt]

there we go

[arctic bronze]

I wonder how fast it wakes up

[topaz veldt]

pretty much instantly

[arctic bronze]

awesome

[topaz veldt]

jvm prob just stays in ram

[arctic bronze]

ah, is it ram heavy?

[topaz veldt]

well its how jvm works

[indigo walrus]

In about 10-15 seconds.

[oak vector]

sc perf for the xeon chip you mentioned looks pretty decent @topaz veldt , especially for a 24c chip. obviously you would've been better getting like 9000 ryzen or smth, but if you can justify the price and the expandability then go for it

[arctic bronze]

i see, also, does the enterprise work to where ppl can rent/buy game servers from your systems?

[dim bronze]

just installed sea of thieves and i had to do the most optimizations

[topaz veldt]

yah i only use enterprise stuff as servers for out of band, etc.

[dim bronze]

for my game to look like sheit and to push out 30-70 fps

its very inconsistent

[arctic bronze]

upgrade

[indigo walrus]

That's what it's designed for, yes. Enterprise integrates with the WHMCS billing system, same one used by thousands of Webhosting providers globally. (Usually those that offer CPanel based shared / reseller hosting.)

[topaz veldt]

basement setup

[arctic bronze]

thats really cool

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[dim bronze]

but this is my upgrade 🙃

[oak vector]

ohhh I remember you
that is gorgeous

[dim bronze]

radeon 780M graphics

[arctic bronze]

why did you get that over a dgpu?

[dim bronze]

well it was a cheap pick

my budget was limited

[pure garnet]

70 fps on a laptop igpu sounds solid tbh

[dim bronze]

mini pc but ig

[arctic bronze]

its a laptop igpu

[pure garnet]

well yeah those are just laptop chips in a box

[dim bronze]

that needs external monitors

well you could also do that with a laptop

[topaz veldt]

16 vCPU and 64GB of RAM should be OK to start

I wonder if AMP is smart enough to run these MC containers on different threads

blah, have to allocate java instance memory manually

[oak vector]

from what it looks like probably

[topaz veldt]

alrighty

[arctic bronze]

any computer can use external monitors

[arctic bronze]

you doin modded or vanilla?

[dim bronze]

yeah

so im still stuck with the curse of laptops

[topaz veldt]

ultimately modded, once i learn how to do it

[arctic bronze]

its super easy, use curseforge to get ur mod packs, then just move the files over to the server

[topaz veldt]

it being in containers is a pita

[arctic bronze]

lmao

I find it to be easier to host a windows vm for modded mc tbh

I can just install cursed forge for obtaining my mod packs for any type of modded server

neoforge, cursed forge, paper, etc

[hoary hatch]

Heh
I've pirated some portion of anandtech

Idk what this contains I found it on archive.org so hopefully it's safe but I expect the entirely of anandtech to be several hundred gigs

[topaz veldt]

yea but that'd defeat the purpose of AMP

[arctic bronze]

ik

[topaz veldt]

considering its mostly HTML with JPEGs, 94GB of compressed text and then compressed images, is huge

[vestal granite]

i think wikipedia is about that size so what has more, anandtech or wikipedia

[topaz veldt]

yah i have a copy of wikipedia also

it was bigger, like 200GB or something

[vestal granite]

2 anandtechs is roughly equivalent to one wikipedia

[topaz veldt]

@hoary hatch where'd you find the archive?

[turbid locust]

What level of data hoarder do you have to be to have a copy of Wikipedia lol

[topaz veldt]

master tier lvl 99

[steel stream]

some people are obsessed with doing that idk why

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust I mean

[vestal granite]

have to ID verify to access wikipedia in some countries these days

[oak vector]

how many tb is that 😔

[vestal granite]

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Wikimedia-Foundation-and-another-v-Secretary-of-State-for-Science-Innovation-and-Technology.pdf

UK judiciary using wordpress will never not be hilarious to me

[topaz veldt]

it has its benefits

[turbid locust]

I’m suspicious of my Intel rig rn

[mild anvil]

Looking to buy a new tv, deciding which one is so hard... I kind of narrowed it down to a c4, c5 or a samsung S90d

maybe

[turbid locust]

Do you intend to actually use it as a TV? Or a monitor? lol

[mild anvil]

tv, mostly, howver I will experiment with it as a monitor as well.

I plan to put it on a rolling tv stand of some sort

so I can just roll it into my office (where my pc is) if I feel like it

[steel stream]

TV for HDR movies and stuff?

[turbid locust]

Several of us daily C series LG TVs as monitors. I really like my C4

[steel stream]

C4-5 as a monitor is great, however if you plan to mostly do movie watching with HDR content I would recommend S90D

[mild anvil]

my pc montor is only 60hrtz. so this would be the first display I own that can handle anything more. ( not counting things like my phone)

[mild anvil]

yea, see, my last tv was this ancient samsung, a 720p plasma. lol

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[mild anvil]

I dont even watch much movies/tv anymore because I cant really take the res anymore. I only watch on my pc monitor, which is fine I guess, but not really immersive. sometimes I will watch things on my ipad, which is the largest HDR capable thing I have right now.

[brisk jolt]

when you know ur intel rig is gonna fuck something up you just dont have the evidence to prove it

same situation as I stare down my assrock x870 board

[turbid locust]

well like I mean I tried to manually tune for 8000 several times with no luck

[brisk jolt]

I cant even do 6400 C30 smh

[turbid locust]

I buy a 8200c38 kit as a joke and it’s just… running?

[brisk jolt]

I might need to loosen smth to do 6400

or add more voltage

[turbid locust]

on Intel?

[brisk jolt]

AMD

[steel stream]

if you plan to do mostly HDR movies and content consumption, S90D, but if it's going to be more mixed usage C5. I own both S90D and C4 and movies are way better on S90d

[turbid locust]

oh probably just IMC

[brisk jolt]

I dont think if I got an intel system (265k) it would be this shit

[turbid locust]

Solid chance your cpu just… doesn’t do 6400 1:1

[brisk jolt]

6400C30 1.5v didnt work as intended

[turbid locust]

Did you test with 1.3vsoc

[oak vector]

rate my fat bun bun. she is 9 pounds

[brisk jolt]

i tried with 1.26, needed to head out so I just reset to expo and went out lmfao

[turbid locust]

Dude my 9800X3D needs like 1.275-1.28 for 6400 1:1

Your chip either can’t do it or needs almost 1.3

[brisk jolt]

wasnt urs like CL26 as well

[mild anvil]

well, I figure the main thing other than movies I will be doing is playing the switch 2, once I get one I mean. and an occasional pc game, though I dont consider myself much of a pc gamer.

[turbid locust]

nah that test was cl36

[steel stream]

S90D still imo

[brisk jolt]

It did boot to windows but the OS kept blacking out like crazy lmfao

[turbid locust]

Purposely loose to only test IMC

[brisk jolt]

icic

[mild anvil]

how do you feel about its a ability to handle lower bitrate content, things with some compression artifacts and such? I hear the LGs handle that better, but is it that noticeable?

[turbid locust]

Now it’s just unhappy about FCLK lol

[pure garnet]

cudimm pcb is different maybe? easier to train terminations

[turbid locust]

has to be something like that idk

[mild anvil]

also, for the samsung, which display type did you end up with? I know different regions are getting different pannels.

[steel stream]

S90D panels vary by size not by region iirc, also it handles lower bitrate content ok

but I don't deal with a lot of lower bitrate stuff, all my home media is pretty high quality

[mild anvil]

most of mine would be too, its just one of those things that would annoy me on the few things I watch that do.

[steel stream]

seems fine, everything I've watched so far has been good

[shell void]

52c novalake confirmed

[turbid locust]

nuh uh

54c Zen 6 confirmed

[pure garnet]

52 core nova lake will do quite nicely as an upgrade from my 265k

[turbid locust]

Intel just be allergic to using the same socket for more than 2 gens

[pure garnet]

i’d rather them not be limited by old boards

[turbid locust]

cope

[pure garnet]

how many lga1700 boards again

[turbid locust]

that’s different

there’s a difference between me seeking out a specific platform to play with vs having to buy a new board every fuckin generation lol

[pure garnet]

the only socket that's kinda bs to me was 1151-2 but z170 boards weren't built for the 9900k

but if there's a meaningful reason to need a newer socket i'd rather they take it

am5 would be way better to cool if we ditched the 40mm ihs

[turbid locust]

the meaningful reason is more money

[pure garnet]

my master is gonna be a 1 cpu only though this bios kinda sucks

not enough to replace it but i think i'll avoid gigabyte again

[turbid locust]

I liked AM4 gigabyte bios

[pure garnet]

the layout is kinda weird to me but fine

but the vt-d sending doing nothing and the persistent voltages/timings really irk me

[steel stream]

in your dreams

[pure garnet]

the master is up to $599 again

if anyone pays $600 for this they're getting scammed 😭

[turbid locust]

I just don’t know how anyone can justify that platform at all

When raptor exists and is cheap af rn

[shell void]

i seek forgiveness from God for my passing up of the $350 Z890 OCF that was available one month ago

astaghfirullah

[turbid locust]

people were snagging $170 14600K’s lmao

new

[pure garnet]

for me it was purely the bundle + i know z790 wouldn't get me ram i wanted

[turbid locust]

Based on what you’ve told me neither does z890

[pure garnet]

nah gskill kit did 6h karhu

im gaming on it rn

[shell void]

hardware unboxed was getting cooked on twitter because they were telling people to not buy the $150 14600K that came with Battlefield 6

[turbid locust]

At what

[pure garnet]

8000c38 1.35v

with raised trefi

[turbid locust]

fucking crazy deal btw

If you wanted BF6 that’s a $90 14600k

[shell void]

yeah it’s never before seen value

[pure garnet]

i should get my premium code tomorrow

[turbid locust]

and like the whole “oh dead platform no upgradability” argument doesn’t stand cause… intel

[shell void]

$80 14600K stomps on $330 9700X

[pure garnet]

how often is the average pc buyer realistically upgrading same socket anyway

[turbid locust]

MANY people did on AM4

[pure garnet]

i swear like 90% of the people in here have zen 2/zen 3 or lga 1200 and older

yeah but if you got an 8700k the first time you had the faster part till zen 3

[turbid locust]

budget ballers dude

[pure garnet]

am4 was like that new boots thing

you can either buy 3 mediocre cpus or 1 good one

[turbid locust]

dude that pieced together a Zen+ build 5 years ago to play games has an insane upgrade path nowadays

Even zen 2 to 3 is a decent upgrade

[fringe vigil]

look at the graphics

[shell void]

yeah bro he could upgrade to an outdated and mediocre reforming ryzen 5000 cpu on his 7 year old platform

[turbid locust]

I think you guys aren’t recognizing the value of a drop in upgrade for people on a tight budget

[shell void]

or he could get the $80 14600K xdddd

[turbid locust]

• board + ram + cooler probably

[shell void]

he can carry over his ddr4 and get a cheap board

[turbid locust]

vs $100 5600x lmao

[pure garnet]

i went zen+ -> zen 2 -> zen 3 x3d which is exactly why i feel like it was stupid

because if i just saved up for a decent intel chip i'd have spent less and still gotten the 13700k when i did

[turbid locust]

every Gen like this yeah its gonna not look as nice

for people that skip generations it’s nice

like me, for people on AM5, going Zen 4 to Zen 6 is gonna be a nice uplift man

[shell void]

platform longevity is just a way for lisa to milk the wallets of people who suffer from fomo and drop in a new cpu every year

[turbid locust]

Idk how you guys are trying to say a multi generation socket is a bad thing lmfao

[brisk jolt]

Technically its also more “eco friendly”

[pure garnet]

i don't think it's a bad thing in theory but i don't want bad boards holding back a future part

if novalake 52 core is real and requires better power delivery than a b860 board has, then it shouldn't hamstring it

[turbid locust]

What do you mean by bad board though

[pure garnet]

like b350 and the zen 3 tdp jumps on the higher end parts

[turbid locust]

is this just not nearsightedness by Intel lmao

[shell void]

lisa su’s financial submissives lining up to give her $500 for one 70mm chiplet every year

[turbid locust]

listen, I’m a hater on everything that’s not in my main rig

[pure garnet]

i want a monolithic x3d on n2

[turbid locust]

Yeah and I want 10 billion fuckin dollars

[pure garnet]

you gonna get the mac bin money

half of it will be fake

[hoary hatch]

Archive.org

[shell void]

i think im the opposite

i was glazing zen 5 while using the 14900K

[young void]

New g8 4k oled did not disappoint this one was used but still had the new screen film on it and all the plastics

[hoary hatch]

I hope it's the full thing but I swear I heard somewhere that the full site is ~300gb

[turbid locust]

Half the shit I talk here is ragebait

[frank cypress]

grass is always greener on the other side type shi

[turbid locust]

I had never said AMDip in my entire life until I bought a 14900k

[young void]

Intel 14th gen is just butter

[gentle urchin]

AMD fell of when they launched Zen.
Bulldozer forever.

[hoary hatch]

https://archive.org/download/anandtech

[shell void]

you had to experience using the last real processor

[turbid locust]

ain’t nothing about it being a good cpu

[hoary hatch]

Mac had 11900K?

[turbid locust]

Ragebait is just funny

still don’t believe this is real

[shell void]

ascension

you’re on the cusp of having a real computer

[turbid locust]

Turns out the solution to my problems was spending more money? who knew

[brisk jolt]

“The client has purchased all the necessary components and wants you to install them”

Bios Chip
w h a t

fuckass module

[turbid locust]

what

[brisk jolt]

The lecturer had some powerpoint slide with questions, and that was deadass one of them

[edgy laurel]

warshipped over my circle j comment, but y'all are competing for the largest one in history

[brisk jolt]

It was a list of shit u install, but whys “bios chip” there

[turbid locust]

what

[charred osprey]

i thought a person called bios chip messaged what to tc2 lmfao

[frank zealot]

can we just start a "Fuck ZTT" CJ instead?

[edgy laurel]

all this "real computer" talk its so cute

[charred osprey]

i love ztt

[turbid locust]

you know it’s a joke right? Lol

[frank zealot]

You'd better mean Zip Tie Tuning

[young void]

Macs finally got good specs im letting live it

[hoary hatch]

Hence circlej.... something

[edgy laurel]

spend more time actually using your real computers instead of staring at stability tests and useless numbers, then we'll talk

[charred osprey]

tf wrong with zachs tech tutorial unboxing review fsomething

[frank zealot]

Zach is what's wrong with ZTT lol

[charred osprey]

whats wrong with zach.

[turbid locust]

Hey man if that’s how I enjoy my real computer then that’s my provocative alright?

[hoary hatch]

And this is why I've yet to tune my arrow lake system cause I'm too busy just using the damn thing

Also my skills are inadequate

[edgy laurel]

*prerogative

[hoary hatch]

Nobody knows what it means but it's provocative

[frank cypress]

the real stability test was the friends we made along the way

[frank zealot]

for starters his wannabe fanboys have tried to brigade this server multiple times.

They're just really bad at it.

[turbid locust]

oh you’re right

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/casual-gif-25732693

[turbid locust]

rare Mac vocabulary fail

[charred osprey]

...and that reflects on zach?

[frank cypress]

reflects on the audience he targets

[charred osprey]

half his fanbase are 12 year olds, zach makes content, people watch them and get a little too obsessed

[frank zealot]

he charges for build lists

[ripe flicker]

do I just need to get a flash drive and download windows installer in it?

[frank cypress]

personalized?

[charred osprey]

he makes losses on builds that he sells (some)

[young void]

Non the less glad you won some silicon lottery, took awhile

[frank cypress]

if it personalized I get it

[frank zealot]

you run the installer and it installs it to the USB

[hoary hatch]

I just know ZTTs website is a meme
But apparently his community maintains a good PSU list

[edgy laurel]

you've not explained what you're trying to do.. but if its install Windows then you download and run the Media Creation Tool with a USB stick inserted.

[turbid locust]

Zach used to promote a paid service to convince your parents to buy you a pc. That’s all I need to know about the guy.

[charred osprey]

this is just an entirely different point as to what you said first... theres no reason to hate zach or his content

[hoary hatch]

Iirc it's $250 for basically something on pcpp front page? Idk

[devout ridge]

Wdym? They clearly explained it 3.5 hours ago

you should obviously just know the issue they had 3.5 hours ago

[edgy laurel]

making the same cheap PC over and over?

[frank cypress]

bruh

[frank zealot]

so not liking someone because of something they do?

wut?

[ripe flicker]

im getting a flash drive rn im js tryna understand on what to do next w this

[pure garnet]

reinstall windows

[turbid locust]

if you don’t have a 5090 your pc fuckin SUCKS!

[frank zealot]

make a windows install usb first

[hoary hatch]

If you need an actually personalized PC, I bet Pugetsystems has a sales department

[charred osprey]

your point on disliking zach was because his fans come here and annoy people lol

[frank zealot]

was point one, then I listed another

[brisk jolt]

so my pc currently sucks

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chosen-jesus-point-look-up-smiling-gif-1939873255476969076

[frank zealot]

having more than one reason is allowed

[brisk jolt]

@turbid locust My PC sucks but my room doesnt then

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wink-gotcha-you-tube-thanks-gif-19039548

[arctic bronze]

ur vacuum sucks

[brisk jolt]

no my vaccum blows as well

[ripe flicker]

do I have to wipe out my flash drive to install windows installer? or could I js keep some files

[frank zealot]

it will wipe the drive

[ripe flicker]

oh

[arctic bronze]

oh yeah, you know what else blows? the wind

[ripe flicker]

damn I'll need to get a new flash drive

[frank zealot]

no you can't not wipe the drive

[frank zealot]

and t-shirt launchers

[arctic bronze]

no, they launch t shirts

[frank zealot]

using air

[arctic bronze]

no, magic

[arctic bronze]

im above them

[turbid locust]

your mo-

[ripe flicker]

will this work?

[brisk jolt]

DNA (did not attempt)

[arctic bronze]

my motherboard does not blow, my fans do

[fringe vigil]

My pc was running gta 5 modded at 5 fps I was so pissed then I realised it was using my iGPU

[ripe flicker]

im just looking at local shops

[devout ridge]

Yes

[frank zealot]

yes

[arctic bronze]

did not ask

[turbid locust]

jorj…

[pure garnet]

intel and nvidia is the endgame combo

[fringe vigil]

I didn’t know

[ripe flicker]

will a 2gb drive work?

[devout ridge]

No

[fringe vigil]

why was it using that it’s stupid

[turbid locust]

it’s really not but

[brisk jolt]

jorj disasterclass

[fringe vigil]

It should always use my 4090

[arctic bronze]

ur igpu is better

[ripe flicker]

how much storage do I need for windows installer?

[fringe vigil]

But it’s all fixed now and fps is glorious

[arctic bronze]

4090 is for chumps, explosions and low fps noobs

[devout ridge]

Minimum 8Gb

[ripe flicker]

fr?

[devout ridge]

What do you think

[brisk jolt]

8gb is what they reco, realistically its 5gb

[gentle urchin]

I like the AMD E-240 processor. Beast of it's time. ~100 in multi-core score for GeekBench 6 & ~100 in multi-thread Cinebench R23

[devout ridge]

you ever found a 5gb usb drive?

[turbid locust]

if you don’t have the same amount of VRAM as system ram wtf you doing

[ripe flicker]

oki thanksss

[brisk jolt]

if you have a 1gb usb drive just download 5 parts of it

[devout ridge]

windows doesn't like that

[arctic bronze]

I have the same ram capasity as my cpu cashe

[turbid locust]

oof?

[brisk jolt]

i have the same amount of vram as my ram

the vram is faster (7 vs 5)

higher number better

[gentle urchin]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost

[ripe flicker]

8gb is minimum but why is 16gb recommended?

[devout ridge]

8gb is both the minimum and recommended

[frank cypress]

true

[ripe flicker]

oh cool

[frank cypress]

they were at siggraph

[young void]

Also new monitor is noiceeee really hoping it last longer then the alienware

[steel stream]

nice nice

[shell void]

that is awesomesauce brother worm

[steel stream]

enjoy it worm, well deserved

[young void]

[turbid locust]

@shell void is the tune you gave me for the 14900k ideal or is it an efficiency tune

basically am I getting full performance

[shell void]

nearly

[turbid locust]

I want to make sure it doesn’t… off itself… but I also want the perf lol

I think I forgot to set load line

[shell void]

if you want more benchmark performance then you could try to run 5.7P 4.5E with HT enabled

[turbid locust]

All I care about is gaming perf

[shell void]

it’s gonna be 320W+ tho

[young void]

Intel eatsss

[shell void]

then ditto but keep HT disabled

i dailied 5.7P 4.5E with HT off

[vestal granite]

whats that

[pure garnet]

you guys have ht toggles?

[vestal granite]

what are these numbers

[turbid locust]

My main priorities are:

1. cpu not dying
2. Gaming perf
3. Efficiency

In that order lol

[pure garnet]

i wish i had 5.7ghz

i only get 5.2 in games

[shell void]

i think 5.6 4.4 is a great spot to daily which is why i suggested it

this is really easy and fun to check for yourself with XTU though

testing 5.7/4.5, 5.6/4.4, 5.2/4.2, 4.8/3.9, etc in real time with cinebench and games and then stress testing

[turbid locust]

Whatever’s best in gaming

I need to dial loadline tho

Still seeing 1.5v VID idle spikes is scary

[shell void]

yeah that would stress me out

mine didn’t ever go that high

[pure garnet]

i'm using 0.8/1.12 llc6 i think?

[turbid locust]

I’m not on latest bios but I think I’m updated enough

lol AM5 rig froze again as soon as I slammed primaries

Either it doesn’t like my god kit or it doesn’t like slammed primaries I literally can’t tell

[pure garnet]

try loading expo ig

isn't that slammed as well

[turbid locust]

yeah but 6000

[pure garnet]

or do they only bin for tcl in the profile

[turbid locust]

well now that 8200 is… seemingly stable on z790… I think 9800X3D is just gonna go back to Bezos

[pure garnet]

i'm not saying i'll always only buy g skill kits but it seems i'm 2/2 on quality from them

my 6400 kit was quite the overclocker

[shell void]

i’m goin thru screenshots

[pure garnet]

i'm just leaving my trident z in rainbow puke because they don't work with windows dynamic lighting

[shell void]

idk if the voltage reading on my system was a lie because of LLC tweaks or whatever, but i didn’t see over 1.37v

when i pushed the LF3 240mm to its limit 🥀

[turbid locust]

right now highest I’ve seen is 1.386v on this current boot but it’s only done Karhu lol

I’m pretty sure I just completely forgot to set loadline when I swapped to this board

[pure garnet]

damn i remember when you first got the taichi

bro is raptor tuning unc

[shell void]

i was in the frontlines teaching myself how to make my i9 behave

[pure garnet]

do you still have the 5600kit in that pc

[shell void]

yah i put that back in it after trying 4x32 on my 9800x3d

it runs at 4400 jedec

[turbid locust]

I own three 4 dimm boards anymore and two of those are AM4

and only 1 of those 3 ram OC okay enough

[pure garnet]

i don't own any 2 dimm boards

i say next time i'll get a ram oc board but we'll see

[turbid locust]

my last 3 mobo purchases have all been 1dpc

[vestal granite]

i have a confession tech-chat-2 and im not proud of it

when i get frozen ice cream i put it in a cup not a bowl and then i pour water into the cup to make like a ice cream soup just a little bit u know like not that much water

[pure garnet]

not like i really had many options

[shell void]

dudes in china claim to have new in box z790 tachyon boards and i keep looking at them every now n then

[pure garnet]

i'd get an ebay apex before a tachyon personally

[turbid locust]

AM5 1dpc board options fucking suck

it’s HDV, ITX, or Apex. That’s fucking it.

[pure garnet]

you can also just get z790 tachyon for 365 on newegg rn

[shell void]

you literally have the x870e apex encore wym

[pure garnet]

i think if i bought the apex to fix sleep mode i'd get bashed in the head

[turbid locust]

when the next step up is +$500 it fucking sucks

$140 HDV, $250-300 ITX, $750 Apex. Are we gonna entertain that?

[shell void]

x870e taichi ocf, b650e tachyon, x870 tachyon

b850 mpower

[turbid locust]

Are those even actually available

yeah fuck no lmao

[brisk jolt]

coloured flavoured milk

[pure garnet]

apex for an 8 core feels so bad im ngl

[vestal granite]

thats what im sayin like this coffee ice cream i water it down and now i just have like coffee flavored milkshake thing

[turbid locust]

Motherboard that costs more than the flagship cpu it can socket also feels like shit

[shell void]

it kills me that there’s no z890 apex encore 🥀

[thick frost]

power button is so small on my case that I can’t even find it a lot of the time

[shell void]

Z990 Apex and U9 495K ftw

[vestal granite]

just never turn off your PC

[pure garnet]

i think that'll all be out after i move so yeah i could swing that

[turbid locust]

Have you tried using your eyes

[pure garnet]

495k and 6090

[thick frost]

ohhh mate I never thought of that…

[topaz veldt]

I would never

[shell void]

52 core novalake and a 6090 is going to feel so fricking cool to own

[turbid locust]

giant fucking power button pal idfk

[thick frost]

ah see that’s the joke

[topaz veldt]

Wire your power button to the wall switch

[thick frost]

it’s comically large

[pure garnet]

i use my motherboard power button whenever i have the side panel off

[turbid locust]

fuck I got ragebaited

[pure garnet]

makes me feel high class

[thick frost]

I was making a joke not tryna rage bait

Like is there a case with a bigger power button than this lol

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt did you hear about my Intel rig lmao

[vestal granite]

power on AC -> wire a lightswitch to toggle an outlet in your office

[shell void]

i really want a 6090FE but 5090FE is still practically unobtanium today

[pure garnet]

how much were the cudimms

[shell void]

i don’t have high hopes for a 6090FE

[pure garnet]

i need to find the limits of the 4 dimmer

[turbid locust]

$200 bones

[pure garnet]

oh that is cheaper than my udimms

[turbid locust]

v-color 8200c38

[shell void]

ram roulette

[pure garnet]

yeah i think i'll keep the g skills

i'll get the broken cudimms somehow

i probably paid extra for the 1.35v bin but whatever

[thick frost]

We’ve been getting quite a few fe 5070,80, and 90s at work since they’re actually apparently reasonably priced

[turbid locust]

There’s an H24M option at 8000c38 for $270

I wonder how much these scale

do we think I’ll be able to get away with 8200c34 or something

The bin is 8200 38-48-48 1.45v

[merry stirrup]

at high volts yeah prolly

[turbid locust]

these heatspreaders are kinda thicc I can’t imagine they’re getting much airflow.

[vestal granite]

i like how the australian outlets have switches on all of them i think the US could use that cause like our plug is kind of sketchy and that would make it less sketchy super easily u know

[turbid locust]

SPDs are hitting like 56C at XMP, no gpu load, and side panel off

[pure garnet]

is that with ram fan?

[turbid locust]

I mean I’ll crank the fan idgaf this pure wings 3 is pretty quiet

[turbid locust]

yeah

[pure garnet]

that's what i got with no ram fan on the tridents 1.35v

[turbid locust]

My ambient temp is also probably a little higher than yours

[pure garnet]

uhhh it was 76f in my room during 85% of the test

i can't run my ac during the day

[turbid locust]

That room has mid ventilation and I have two rigs running stress tests rn

[vestal granite]

the time of day that you would most want to run the AC

[brisk jolt]

Try 35c during daytime

Its fucking HOT

so goddamn humid

[turbid locust]

Weather has been nice here for once

[vestal granite]

35c is 95f

[turbid locust]

Yeah it was that temp here for like 2-3 weeks basically straight during July

Like 60-70% humidity

Miserable

[vestal granite]

here its pretty chilly like mid 80s fahrenheit 90% humidity usually

[pure garnet]

yeah well $8 a kw

[vestal granite]

oh holy guacamole

[turbid locust]

where the fuck

shawty I thought you were in the states

[pure garnet]

i am

[vestal granite]

where is it $8 a kw, guam?

[turbid locust]

where the fuck is power that expensive

[vestal granite]

you live in an island of hawaii where the power is delivered by battery?

[pure garnet]

what they do is from 3-6pm they monitor the power draw and bill us $8/kw for the highest use in that time frame per cycle

[turbid locust]

dude power is like 12 CENTS per kWh here

[pure garnet]

8c off peak

$8 on peak :3

[turbid locust]

wtf

[vestal granite]

wait wait wait is it $8/kW or $8/kWh

[pure garnet]

kW

[brisk jolt]

dudes blasting the AC at 16c Im not believing that

[vestal granite]

okay so like at 4PM if you draw 2000W peak it costs $16 at end of month for that draw

[turbid locust]

wait what’s the diff how many kWh in KW

[pure garnet]

if at the end of the month we used 8kw during that time on the highest day we're billed $64 extra

[vestal granite]

makes more sense

[turbid locust]

idk atp id rather be broke than hot

[vestal granite]

just steal electricity

[pure garnet]

if i lived solo i would

i'm moving out in june of next year

[vestal granite]

thats cool probably

[pure garnet]

moving away from the evil power company too

[vestal granite]

i had a power company the Tennessee Valley Authority or TVA which is also a villain in a superhero television show Loki the TVA time valley authority or something

well they werent really the power company per say they were just like they figure out the power and then the local power companies in different cities handle charging you money

[pure garnet]

mine's the state owned power company

[turbid locust]

I wonder how much of this sudden stability on my Intel rig is just Asus black magic fuckery

[pure garnet]

it's one of the settings named like cubic_modem_power_bpass

[turbid locust]

Because this board has two XMP options even if your kit only has one profile. XMP 1 is the profile + “asus assisted settings” or some bullshit, and XMP 2 is just default settings according to the SPD

I chose XMP 1

[merry stirrup]

never gets old

[pure garnet]

oh yeah i remember that

i thought it just messes with subtimings a bit

[turbid locust]

I figured it messed with terminations

I think the most interesting part is that it’s running 1.424v IMC and 1.25v SA

[merry stirrup]

dayum

[turbid locust]

when I was manually tuning, higher SA seemed to help more than IMC

[merry stirrup]

(totally fine)

[merry stirrup]

yeah seems like there was a range that vdd2 was okay and sa mattered a lot more

[turbid locust]

1.3V SA seemed to always help though

[merry stirrup]

this is what ive done sofar

[pure garnet]

people say up to 1.45v is safe on arl but

i dropped my d2d to 30 instead of 32 because i don't wanna blow this thing up

[turbid locust]

I like the notes

[merry stirrup]

"HEAT?"

"pain"

[turbid locust]

mhm lol

[pure garnet]

what made you go for 8000 40

[merry stirrup]

random settings i saw online with similar configs prolly

[turbid locust]

Flopper save your effort for Mpower

I want to see you get it stable

[merry stirrup]

im sure theyre similar enough for my efforts to be valid

[turbid locust]

Did we ever agree on a price for just the mpower lol

[merry stirrup]

105.blahh blah whatever

[pure garnet]

you guys bill by cents?

[merry stirrup]

it was 4 meme

[turbid locust]

I sold him the 5070Ti for $694.20

[pure garnet]

okay but that like makes sense

if michael told me 603.58 i wouldve thought he was crazy

[merry stirrup]

800$ for both

but i bought the 5070ti first and it was gonna be for 700$

[brisk jolt]

I’d like to get rid of my x870 SL 9800x3d and ram for $694.20 as well some day (nvr happening)

[turbid locust]

selling Mpower for <50% of what I paid

[pure garnet]

i’m ditching tommy + a die + 7800x3d for 375

[turbid locust]

good deal

[shell void]

giving somebody a good price feels good

[merry stirrup]

my girl is currently on a 5500

[brisk jolt]

i agree somehow

[merry stirrup]

(although it is a hw record config so its not that bad)

[turbid locust]

lol

[merry stirrup]

4.7ghz isnt that bad

[turbid locust]

get your girl a $70 14600k lol

[pure garnet]

hw record 5500 is wild

[merry stirrup]

yeah im gonna get her some rando chip

[merry stirrup]

hey man it does 4.7 dailyable

and is on 4000mhz ram

[shell void]

pho real

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[pure garnet]

and does it still perform like zen 2

[shell void]

$150 14600K with ddr4

[merry stirrup]

yes its terrible but its a surprisngly okay zen2 experience

[shell void]

zen 2 without dips and high idle

[merry stirrup]

i do not fuck wwith ddr4

i fw bdie and rev e

it will be a ddr5 config on the edge or a different board like steel legend

[turbid locust]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-14th-gen-core-i5-14600k-raptor-lake-lga-1700-desktop-cpu-processor/p/N82E16819118470 randomly slightly more expensive than people said but

$190 and comes with BF6

[merry stirrup]

their math is that it came with another game and bf6

but it actually only comes with bf6

[turbid locust]

Ah

[pure garnet]

no it was actually 150 dollars a couple days ago

[turbid locust]

Oh yeah at B&H but OOS now I think

and I’m not sure it came with BF6

[gentle lynx]

for the same price which is better to get an a750 or a rtx 2060 6g (both used, has warranty)?

[pure garnet]

are those the only options

[brisk jolt]

A750 is 20% faster in raster but with potential driver hiccups
2060 has DLSS4 to make up

[pure garnet]

6gb vram is like waste tier tho

[brisk jolt]

i dont think he’s playing any UE5 shit with a 2060 in the first place

[main bear]

Doesn't matter. 6gb is not much

[pure garnet]

6gb was tough in rainbow six years ago

basically any game now is gonna use over 6gb

[turbid locust]

Certain games will eat 16GB nowadays

I was hitting vram limits in Indiana Jones with the 5070Ti

BZs 14900k

brutal

[brisk jolt]

Now you eat indiana jones for lunch

Wait that doesnt sound right-

[turbid locust]

Just found out you can favorite emojis on discord

[nova trout]

Ye

[hoary hatch]

Fr
Definitely available for $150 w/ BF6 last week

[hoary hatch]

Excuse me WHAT

[turbid locust]

YEAH DUDE LMAO

[hoary hatch]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

[turbid locust]

DONT HATE

[ripe flicker]

finally got to the first step on fixing my pc

[hoary hatch]

I didn't see the fucking top text

[ripe flicker]

wouldn't be hard fixing this right?

[hoary hatch]

@turbid locust you can also favorite gifs

[pure garnet]

you're gonna just reinstall windows

[turbid locust]

See I did know that

[ripe flicker]

cool

[turbid locust]

I just didn’t know you could favorite emojis

I’ve been just using my recents

[pure garnet]

8200 on the 14900k

that 9800x3d is getting shot back to bezos fr

[turbid locust]

It feels dystopian

[nova trout]

That’s the only way

[pure garnet]

oh and you're on an atx board

[turbid locust]

I spent like a month trying to get anything over 7600 stable

[merry stirrup]

you can disable it in server settings

[pure garnet]

yeah you're setup man

[turbid locust]

I’m on the China apex

[pure garnet]

dude said board says 8200? im doing 8200

[nova trout]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3YRWc share your thoughts if you like

[turbid locust]

Well like at first I got 8000 stable for like 3.5 hours with my other kit

[pure garnet]

i should pick one up for my 13700k

[turbid locust]

I stopped it, went “alright going for 8200 now” and never had anything go past 1 hr ever again

[merry stirrup]

lmao

i want to remount but at the same time i don’t expect it to do anything

[pure garnet]

i'm still on not on a contact frame

[turbid locust]

they’re lowkey affordable

[pure garnet]

what site was it again

[turbid locust]

Superbuy

[pure garnet]

no the actual listing

[merry stirrup]

i am but with LM

[pure garnet]

wasn't it like gofeesh or something

[merry stirrup]

goofish

[turbid locust]

uhhhh it was either goofish or xianu or whatever it is

[merry stirrup]

xianyu

[pure garnet]

i'm getting blocked by some app prompt

[merry stirrup]

started laughing hysterically

[turbid locust]

Xianyu

That’s where mine was from, proxy by superbuy

board was like $170, and then shipping was $50

[pure garnet]

i guess i need to make an account or something

[turbid locust]

Took just under 3 weeks from paying for the board to on my doorstep

[pure garnet]

z790 apex encore is like $450

so that's way better value

[turbid locust]

yup

Even if I didn’t sell the mpower I’m still under the cost of what people are wanting for Apex’s

Everywhere I saw them listed they were 500+

[merry stirrup]

literally

i’ll be in 305$ on 2 z790 2 dimm boards

[turbid locust]

Floppa are you covering shipping again

[pure garnet]

well then

[turbid locust]

it was really convenient for me

[merry stirrup]

heah i’ll get ground shipping thru work thats easy and no prob

[pure garnet]

fire timings

[merry stirrup]

let me be first in line for future hw plox