#tech-chat-2
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it’s almost 100f out and i don’t have a great AC
it's fun having that temp at 600w
spooper!
getting there
steel nomad my favorite video game
next is pushing memory past +2000
woovle groofy bobble bobble
meow
I streamed my overlay to some1 with a 3080, he saw 500w+ 70c and went “wtaf”
does 350 core offset
i heart big chips
at least. hoping 400 without vf curve tweaks seems legit
5070ti easily reaches 3.2
seeing the usefulness of the shunt form?
3.3 is a stretch 
did it for benching 
nowhere near game stable though
scores brother the scores
lay oopy soupy won groove yoyo
6090 4ghz when 
yuge
yeez
gonna just do 500 core offset and see if it’ll run
in theory 500 core offset is 3.3ghz
but nvidia so
gpu boost does what it wants
does NOT do 3.3 lol crashed quickly
somewhere between 400 and 500 are my max for 3dm
goob hovy ong 500 core qwepy vov mew zop
my 5070Ti Aero couldnt hit 3.3
we simply lost the lottery
it’s just voltage
explode
@edgy laurel bf2042?
iirc most mine wouldve gone to was 3270
we’ll see with mine i’m doing basic methods to see where it tops out
400-500, trying 450, if it works trying 475, if not trying 425
so on
seems like it’ll do 450 tho
which is somewhere around 3.25 yeah
steel nomad?
yeah
you'll want to do a custom curve imho
just lazy tuning rn
I know, but that bench shines with a curve
its also extremely frustrating, hate steel nomad
this was the aero tune from bumfuck long ago
i have 300 runs on timespy i’m sure i’ll be stubborn enough to figure it out
200 of which runs are on the same rx 570
i will be using hacks to go past 2000 mem offset so i should place well
rel
what’s odd is that i don’t get a voltage slider
it doesn’t do anything i know but it’s strange
maybe i just have to uncheck and recheck it
does 475 nice
you dont have to do that anymore
the latest beta version of afterburner supports +3000
+430 is really good ngl
oh okay thanks shawty i was just gonna use chheat engine
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/
aero boost clock is alr 2588
prime is 2497
translates to the same boost clock after offsets
my 4080 can only do around 210 stock with no cooling mods or what ever
3.27 is +475 for me
vram can do 2k tho lol
my 5090 having zero oc headroom is a blessing in disguise because i dont ever touch it
i get to just enjoy using the gpu without the devil on my shoulder
lol nice
okay let’s see if it’ll do 3k mem offset
i think that’s 2500mhz on the ram don’t quote me tho
sounds doable
my overclock is superior over everyone elses
+3000 takes you from 28Gbps to 34Gbps
yeah it’s fine
cool so i top out in bench at 475 and 3000
which is about 3.27ghz core
id like to benchmark how impactful +3000MHz vram is on 5090 for vr gaming
5090 absolutely pummels 4090 in VR presumably because of the bandwidth
but that's a whole lotta effort
i think it’s just dragging a slider to the right bro
still effort
no charging my quest 2 for 3 hours, updating it, and then setting up my quest 2 for pcvr is the pain
oh i see
i use it so infrequently that it's always flat dead and spammed with updates
quest to break 8000 begins
11% gain 🔥
who said oc is dead 🔥
oc is dead
my 7673 plants me in the top 1%
so safe to say the 5070ti was not a mac bin @real dirge
WHO WHY
sorry ryan i guess somehow "@mac" meant ryan
@turbid locust your gpu doesnt suck
swag
oh no i woke him
quite indubitably i will shout you out if it makes top 100
lol
lol
im gonna occt the vram and run 350 core then
gonna just do 2500mhz mem offset for daily
Not with the slider but with the actual curve
yea
From 875mv to 1.05v or whatever
cyberpunk was my best gpu stress test
i ended up just running +300 core and no vram offset
That card will eat up 3187Mhz locked no issue
seems like itll do 100mhz higher than that for bench at least
With vram and power slider maxed
mkaaay
i like the sound of this
Did you like my “signature” lmao
yus i took a pic of it
lol
put a line thru the 7 on the next hw you sell me 💀
i think it would look a lil cooler
yeah that wasn’t meant to be a 7 lmao
what IS that
it was supposed to be a cool lil underline
ohhhhh
that I fucked up LMAO
okay makes more sense LOL
sheesh mac signed card
5070Ti Mac edition fr
reverses mac bin properties
that card is instantly worth twice as much now because it's signed by the bigname xocer macse7en
Nah that card is unironically a good bin considering I never benched it LMAO
i’ll let that sharpie ink cook on the backplate forever i don’t wipe it off
free fumes
its good cause he never tested it to let his voodoo magic bad luck make the chip bad
trust his 9800x3d will do 6600mt/s gear 1
steam deck sniffing
took me 5 benches
Looking forward to winter
no more beach vibes?
for OC
create or purchase chiller
im flying down to FL in like 5 weeks
1.9vdd 6400cl22 time
no chiller
in the cold air
no need for weather
weather is more fun, nothing else to do in freezing
sub ambient is an experience
chillers are a joke compared to just putting your pc outside in the northeast winter
I've done sub ambient
i plan to ice bath the 13900Ks
yeah dude like 5 degF > chiller
which is the meta “i’m broke” method
and you do exactly as it sounds
aio radiator into bucket of ice water
we watched biggie cheez salted ice bucket his 7900xtx and direct die 13600k
ooh
it's messy
it’s an experience
I did that in 9th grade lol
do u not get cold winters
which was like... eons ago
not great ones no
dude how old are you
Old enough to have 3 property tax bills
not 40+
best i get is ac+cold winter day
Can you sense when a storms coming cause of arthritis?
box fan aircooling in subzero weather meta
I just picked up a damn near perfect condition 2015 Curved LG OLED 55inch tv lg 55eg9100
No I can just sense newbs
just set aio rad in front of ac on max in winter
for free.
it WILL be cold enough to make condensation beware if you do this 💀
it won’t condensate since the rad is warmer than the AC output air
depending on how good your ac is or how big your room is
Or how good your winter is Floppa
i’ve done it before. it developed water on the rad
making your room freeze just to still be above zero
michigan winters are peak
You're forgetting if we open our windows our rooms hit like 10 degrees lol
just carry the pc and a crappy monitor outside when it's like 5F 🔥
+5000btu air con= a room that is a lot warmer than the air coming out of the ac
at least if an aio rad is literally right in front of it
but thats like 350W of AC vs just opening a window 😉
AC air is at most like 50F
Just drape the rad out the window when its 0-5 deg and buckle up
still colder than just letting the aio hang out of the window where
0-5 has not happened in the duration i’ve lived here
strap some arctic s12038-8k fans to it
I had a 4 x120 with gentle typhoons out the window to get the ice reservoir
that was with like 20/80 coolant mix rofl
arctic liquid freezer III is a goated cooler.
never in my life have i seen evga e-leet
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why does he still have a C4 wtf
because he has a backwards baseball cap
Vetts are cool bro
well I guess I gotta test this cpu huh
I have to pull my board and 7700x out of my A3 first
I’m not swapping to main rig until it sees the bench first
Greg is something
"if there's no oil pressure there's no spraying the pistons to prevent scoring"
Bro if there's no oil pressure your bearings will be tin foil forget the pistons lol
Bearings are so 2024 bro get with the times
Lol
Odds this 9800X3D explodes in my Asrock board on boot?
75%
Rip
how can I start learning python?
Buy a snake and get to know him
khan academy
@topaz veldt the I/O on the Z890 Tachyon is offensive
i feel insulted and i didnt even buy it
I hate that off white
hey at least you have separate PS/2 ports and a proprietary wifi antenna connector
well uh, start by picking an IDE (pycharm, vscode, jupyter, sypder, etc. to name a few)
Dafuq is this
It's not proprietary
moment of truth
it’s not?
welp not a great start
No
Uh oh
6600 does not boot
Well that's not surprising
tbf that wasnt happening
I mean most chips that can do 6400 can post 6600 no?
time to try 6400 1.25vsoc
Bro...no
I’m in windows at 1.3vsoc 6400
Even booting 6600 is unicorn farts
ah
guys what’s the keyboard input that makes an application go to the right screen
TM5 is opening but nowhere on screen
I had that 7950X3D that booted 6800, it was nuts
Windows alt arrow key or something
Like a combo like that
why does league default to medium on a 5070ti
Welp TM5 wouldn’t display right so Karhu it is I guess
Cause league
it wasn't like i was gonna open dota
maybe they don't want to distract players with too much environmental details
i want 1:00:00:00
impressive timings
damn right you will
Asrock timing config
6200 sample in your hands rn
uh
it’s in gods hands now
pytimings or whateever its called
im just gonna get an 8000c36 kit and tune subtimings
just 6000 CL26
100%
Also yeah this. 6000c26 kit is the best 8000 kit
@merry stirrup how’s the benching going?
i wanna be lazy and it's also only 32gb
wdym
i want another h24m
6000c26 H24M exists
do i get the phantom assassin 120 or the arctic 36 cpu cooler
theyre both like similar price
@turbid locust I just realized I can pair my bose headphones to my TV lol
I have both - get the PA120
alright
Bluetooth be like that
I have a kit - do you know if anyone has OC'd much
it never dawned on me
Like how much they scale? I’d assume they do H24M timings but better bin
Same vibe as the H16A
Yeah I see almost zero reference on OCN/etc.
i woudn't an xmp profile that isn't garbage for my platform after like 2 years of manual input as well
the 8000 patriot kit mike has seems perfect for me
then when i have time i can adjust sub timings to get more perf
yeah i used to want that too
What’s the tightest 8000 bin? CL38? 36?
and then i realized the bestest kits XMP/EXPO is just not going to be right
As convenient an 8000 kit may seem I just can’t bring myself to buy one
Must have best bin 
2x24 8000cl36 1.4vdd afaik
and then I had CPUs that really only liked gear 1
i have 0 experience with ram tuning at all on intel so
i wouldn't mind having a decent xmp to fall back on for just gaming in the mean time
its actually more popular/documented
enjoy hell
I would’ve enjoyed raptor a lot more if I was willing to accept sub 8000
yeah i scrolled through ocn and people were doing 9133 fairly often
I would not say 9133 is fairly often at all
you might be seeing the same few people with chillers and shit posting often
probably
Is there an OCN discord and is it active?
im not going for above 8k
I would love an overclocking discord but without the hwbot snobbery
i find hwbot unhelpful in general, too much gate keeping
i might have a buyer for the cursed tomahawk+7800x3d+a die kit combo
Yeah that’s what I mean lol
so i can just wash my hands of this thing
i'll toss the gskill kit into my 12900k pc and let it retire it's life on xmp for all eternity
i wish i could know if theyre good
skull
1 hour until I’m either really happy or really sad
theoretically 8000cl36 1.4vdd is essentially identical to 6000cl26 1.45vdd
so the patriot kit is fantastic value if it's real
is anyone actively testing it
i remember when i used to run occt after work while i ate dinner and just hearing "an error has been detected" blast from my room
13700k cinema
i gave up on it because the x870 tomboyhawktua was throwing a hissy fit about 8000mt/s
lol
gaming
top 1% already
honestly with that cpu actively dying it was honestly still a fairly okay experience
will chill until further modification
it's just phase transistions in ffxiv would make it die for awhile
when will ARL-S be out
sick
ARL-S is 285K
sorry new jawn
all we know is late 2025
i would assume it's soon considering newegg is dumping stock like crazy
265k for 250 is value pick of the month
I thought ARL refresh got canned lmao
Yes
bin is worse but it's cute
i should probably just get a ram kit before my stuff arrives
because im gonna end up just running 6400 xmp for the first couple hours and that sucks
its honestly not bad
I have run jedec/standard on my 285 and 265 when I get tired of tweaking shit
what cooler will you use on the 265k?
for now my d15s but i'll get a 360 aio later on
axp90x47 
d15 will be fine
upshift downshift oh sh-
i have had to power limit mine since mitx
swag
this this pretty efficient yall were rightsies
It’s arguably the best value 50 series
Considering the next step up is like double that yeah 
literally 😭
it was 694.20 but
It was 694.20 lol
then I shall eat my words back
so nice
lmoao
it was the first real offer i gave
an offer he couldnt refuse
Bros getting a z790 mpower for $70 
lmao
one of the 1700 are going to my gf for free so its okay i got scammed out of 100$ shipping and my 250$ edge
mpower is just a cool board to me so i'll probably keep it
i need am4 and am5 itx next
for myself
It is pretty cool
just curious, is $700 new for a pny 5070 ti worth it ?
If you want a 5070Ti yeah
yeah def
i just paid 700 for a partially used one
basically new
i did not realize how much walmart employee discount gave lol
tis a good price for sure
is PNY a good brand ? never had em before
make all of nvidias FE cards
err, quadro
used to make the FE cards when they were just blowers but i dont think so anymore
long as they are reliable lol. thats all i care about
alrighty then im gonna pick it up then
I’d take PNY over Zotac
yes
replacing a 3070. and im tired of the lag
tbh both are the same thing just different aesthetic
I’d take either one- pretty equal footing to me
paris new york technologies incorporated >>>>
its a shame TVs don't have 1 Gbps wired
dude wtf is up with that
quite silly init
its so dumb - I have to use wifi to get actual speed
my TVs wireless NIC is faster than wired
yeah
why is it that wifi is faster
It’s so stupid
its straight stupid why are you giving me fast ethernet on a 2025 device
like...literally Fast Ethernet
yup
optimal teamwork
like its stable... but slow - meanwhile i flip on wifi and its doing 600 mbps
ive never seen anything more optimal
no way thats real right 💀
hwinfo does NOT see my dimms
perhaps a side effect of 4 volts
(these dimms just have a shitty pmic)
china board delight
btw michael im still using the x550
i have an edge sir
need that all intel goodness
it was me pocketing the mpower ddo NOT come up
this would geniunely be a wild turn of events
If it happened I would simply believe I was cursed and sell everything and buy an Xbox
I figured it was decent considering the OC I was running
did you set like 1.8v soc
Yes
1.3vsoc on an asrock board is gluttony for punishment
SoC tile screaming in agony rn
Fighting the urge to go check on the 9800x3d
I told myself I was not allowed back upstairs till midnight
be me, practicing HD2 to play with my xbox buddies come tomorrow
My pc is right next to my bench
ez life bro
EXPO yawn
i can also play this in less than 12 hours
5nail you know I’m not satisfied with “just works”
you need a 265k
you bought a 9800x3d tho
the whole point of 9800x3d is it just works
yeah I need it to just work with a good memory tune LMAO
New Mission Impossible is pretty good
I find Tom Cruise boring
its still fun
the submarine section was incredible
It feels like MI is just a series of quicktime events ngl
this one is good
i've only seen 8 but i thought it was pretty decent. def gets more hate than it deserves
i watched reckoning part 1 and they really didnt capitalise on the emotions tbh
Luther
yes
absolutely ancient
not bad though considering i only paid 25 cad for the 980ti like, a year or two ago
not sure why it says asus though, it's an FE
board partners used to do reference cards no
is it bios flashed
i don't think so
probably idk, 980ti is unc technology now
i don't know much about it other than it works and it was cheap
is it a reference card
iirc a 1080ti reference by msi
it's an FE
i had a 980 evga that was nvidia referencee
i saw one listed
FE wasnt a thing beforce 10 series
asus reference model
that makes sense
never knew they had cards from AIBs that just had a cooler from nvidia
mhm
but it looks like this
oooo
wack
i wonder if the cpu is running cooler now that there isn't two gpus blocks just absolutely fucking the flow and dumping heat into the system
but the kryonaut i used is probably also dry as fuck so idk
i need to go repaste the cpu but that requires me taking out the motherboard and lord I cannot be bothered rn
wait hm?
@merry stirrup @shell void @pure garnet @topaz veldt

nice
is zotac gaming geforce rtx 5060 amp 8gb gddr7 gpu a good card for like games that arent cyberpunk 2077
oh wait
2133 fclk?
its not great but its worth a sh it ton on ebay
I purposely made the FCLK low to solely test the IMC
so stinky
🦀
i think it's time to drop vsoc down to 1.25 to see if you dont have to max that shiz out
350 cad still profit (probably, ebay fees blow)
atp idgaf if it needs 1.3vsoc that’s what it’s getting lol
too much work
Would be nice to run lower obviously lol
Aww no funky yellow
Instead you get fkn 16 usb ports on the rear and 8 more front panel ones https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-launches-x870-livemixer-motherboard-with-25-usb-ports-at-229
ASRock launches X870 LiveMixer for content creators ASRock X870 LiveMixer WiFi launches with 25 USB ASRock has released the X870 LiveMixer WiFi, a content creator focused AM5 motherboard built on the AMD X870 chipset. It supports Ryzen 7000, 8000 and 9000 series processors. The board targets versatility and connectivity rather than top tier over...
hmm
that is actually a decent amount of money but i don't really want to get fucked by ebay
cause ebay tends to be buyersided
so if it breaks during transport im fucked
Weeb board
yeah
i want the mispelled z790 one
i think the red looks nicer
The Behemoth’s tray WORKS
evgenanklegion
If I ignore the upper left it does look sick
Mother fucker that would actually look aight with my stupid clown lips ram
need the clown lip gpu to go with it
Oh no
Oh no no no no
Make it stop
@shell void lol it can barely do 6400 it seems
1.25vsoc errored instantly
but hey beggars can’t be choosers
oh a BSOD that’s wild
this unfortunately means I probably won’t be able to do 6400 with super tight primaries
or maybe I can idk
trying 1.275vsoc now
I hope this chip can do decent FCLK if I have to run VSoC this high
Perfectly fitting for Z790 since with 13th/14th Gen.... Y'know 
gpu cooler just chilling but what’s this
a second clown lip hidden in the corner
lmaoo
1.275vsoc seems happy
now we test 1.26v
@shell void how long of Karhu runs do you do when you’re minimizing VSoC
1.25 errored in 13 seconds and 1.275 went 10 mins without error
testing 1.26 now
oops just errored
1.265 time
error 🙁
i think i used occt memory test to figure it out before i downloaded karhu, it was early into me learning about memory
iirc i was just running 6000cl30 xmp with 8/8/32 and 65535
holy
set nitro timings mac
0/2/1 i think
does that even help IMC?
I’m running 6400 loose af, ram shouldn’t be the limit
honestly if I needs high VSoC I can’t really complain
I asked for 6400 and so far I’ve gotten 6400
it might be a good idea to just slam 1.3 if you want to commit to 6400
I haven’t tested FCLK at all, want to minimize VSoC for best chances at decent FCLK
latency afaik
couple nano seconds
yeah who cares when I’m IMC testing
set and forget type setting
it is your destiny to pursue 6000cl24 with geardown disabled and 2200fclk
hell nah im cooked
register minimum tcl lol
I think you overestimate how attainable c24 is
yeah
bezos bin
if you’re failing this quickly with 1.27 then you have to either set 1.3 or give up
mac dont give up
Trying 1.275
my soldier rage
my soldier charge
Again
Bro I'm going to the theaters for the first time and HOW MANY FUCKING ADS ARE THERE
my soldiers fight
but letting it run this time
double digits
You can unironically show up 20 mins late and not miss any of the movie
I showed up early
Brutal lol
25-30 min
Ok so 10 more minutes
My friends were rushing me since I was late for the screening but I was still on time when the movie started
depends on the theater and movie but it's usually 25-30
but muh idle power draw 
I just wanna watch the F1 movie with dbox
who cares abt idle it can vaccum it
I’m just kinda expecting my FCLK to suck at this VSoC but who knows
Ain't no way Ford put a V8 noise over their mustang Mach e ad
i haven’t observed any difference personally
wdym
2200fclk isn’t stable at 0.850vsoc or 1.2vsoc for me
for my samples it doesn’t really matter
Is 2166 stable no matter what?
i haven’t tried 2166, i just dropped down to 2133 at 6400 because 2200 is buggy
Because my 7700x can’t even boot 2066 at 1.3vsoc. But it can do 2133 stable at 1.18vsoc.
that is quite a big disparity
right
i didn’t see that on either of my boards
AM5 ram meta has always been “minimize VSoC to maximize FCLK”
yeah i’ve heard zoid say it but it just hasn’t made a difference for me
It was a very dramatic effect for my 7700x
Then again that chip is DOGSHIT so
Because I needed 1.25vsoc for 6000c26 I ended up just dailying 2000fclk on that chip
my 7800x3d needs 1.15v or lower to boot 2133
2133 was stable on asus but this tomahawk lowkey cursed
yeah of course
many such cases
dude how’d my friend in front of me get 22 mins for his 2.4km
I got fuckin 16m 39s
maybe the app heard my airpods and gave me an artificial +50 horsepower
he got what for what
run i think
its a run
2.4km/1.5 miles
He was in front of me the entire time till the end of my recording where I passed him
yes
Im 50/50 on it but the more stuff I hear about it the more I want it
its a very fun and trolling game with friends
I feel like its not much like halo but everyone compares it to halo
But halo is my entire childhood
i dont have a childhood
Not like that has much to do with the game but it makes me want it hearing comparisons lol
Your favorite build is alive
I got bored of the gameplay loop quite quickly
Have they added more significant content since launch?
it gets boring in single and duos
quad player is fun especially with the newbies
even I do some questionable shit
oh look a card thats losing support
I put about 10 hours or so in the game and never really bothered with it again
Ah yes the radeon 1080 thats losing support
I dont think the radeon 1080 ever had support but ok
What CPU
7600x
Is this setup safe?
how safe like safer then 5090 with 12VHP?
Bruh
lol
Well theres the 1st time my 5090 lost to the 9070XT :/
gonna have to power limit me thinks

so real
super close on my first release of "Game OS" its a lib manger app for games, apps, media. has a store (needs addons) basic friends system and is styled like og xbox one
Xenia ach support, steam api key for steam ach and also supports steam emu achivements as well 🙂 plus a wip for switch ach
if anyone intreasted i have a whole discord server dedicated and inc porgress reports, pics and vids of what ive done so far
Yes, you've been advertising it for months
Is the Windows "Murdering your SSD" getting more widespread?
because after mine getting killed this weekend, a v.important box at work now doesn't see any SSDs in the bios
and fuuuuuuuuu
what the actual fuck is that?
PCI 64 bit? How old is that fuckin' thing?!
Also the hard drives are baracuda 7200.11
Iykyk
7200.10 was probably worse
But the worst part is
not only it had a firmware bug, but also it was the noisiest of them all, cause they had to drop AAM in 7200.10 i think
That seagates firmware flasher shit sucks ass
Took me way to much time and effort for it to tell me to fuck off
Look at this
Like wth
Intel details Clearwater Forest at Hot Chips 2025 Intel used Hot Chips to give a clearer picture of Clearwater Forest, its next Efficient core only Xeon built on the 18A process. The chip targets cloud and scale out servers and replaces Sierra Forest in the high-density slot. The package moves fully to chiplets. Twelve compute […]
Do I need second A750
L link boring link
xeon 7 my beloved
did you link this yesterday and I missed it
Yes I think
i linked it and we talked about it briefly
CHIPS N QUESO
Chips and cheese > linkfarmingcardz
ah this is def a better article
I gotta get back on top of my discord intel posting
So it looks like I got fucked TWICE by the windows killing your ssd
I found my solution to playing expedition 33
everyone needs a little clearwater forest
Which is to not use the 5090 💀
Sometimes the solution is more e cores
Oh
New discord status? 🤔
I'm gonna miss the old one
where is my beloved Intel Core 9 291E ? >:(
nova lake will feature 300 e cores
five hundred efficiency cores
CWF will have 2S options soooo
yessuh 576 darkmont cores
the world could use more e cores
Oh no
The naming convention
Isn't Nova lake using Arctic wolf e cores
yuh
Not Arctic wolfmont 😭
Unless the name change signifies a different approach to the e core
@shell void do i put the 8000 kit in the 12900k for jokes
gotta break away from the mont suffix in order to generate more aura
if you’re bored sure
finally making use of the post code readout on the z690-e
NVL is all about aura man
more cinebench accelerators yayyyy
I <3 my E-cores
bro got filtered by e cores
downloading myself a Windows 10 ISO justin case i would need one after support ends (for example because of Macbook Bootcamp). Better safe than sorry once MSFT yanks the ISOs
I mean we can still get XP ISOs I’m sure 10 will be around for awhile lol
mgrave
you can find dos disks too
Archive org
brb running dos with my 5090
BRB running 500 instances of dos simultaneously on a 5090
Real
im reinstalling my 5090 rn
wtf
i prefer to download one from microsoft directly instead of archive 🙂
brb using my moms car to go pretend to not scalp 5090s
Is scalping 5090s even a thing anymore
Mornin'!
A bad one
Docker.... calm down
i am laughing at how unbalanced my 2018 mini is right now
Core i5-8500 (6c/6t), so low. 64GB RAM - maxed out. 250GB SSD, absolute minimum. 10Gigabit NIC - maxed out 😄
I mean its OK
well yeah, for Kubernetes it will be OK, if i will have storage elsewhere
I think this docker vm has an nfs mount that didnt' come up
K8s should not have persistent volumes soooo
Lets go!
it sitll needs storage tho for stuff. Like where does database store stuf ? 😄
you planning on having a 200GB database?
Also thats my biggest gripe - databases should not be in k8s
Don't get me on my anti container rant
the year 5nail goes verboten for any level of hypervisor
Every software deployment gets it's own bare metal!
I've yet to understand docker/k8s
Also in 2025, thanks to broadcom, its cheaper to run bare metal than a VM lol
Every time I've tried to deploy even something as simple as jellyfin has led to a mess
I’m setting up a fail over between two servers but my question is how bad is it to have npm and pi-hole on the same system with them in docker containers? Npm is only being used to relay internal traffic. Thinking of using bender instead and using pi-hole with a local only domain. im not looking for security flaws as much as im looking at compatibility problems.
oh cmon 5nail I told them to come here for better answers, be nice
oh i thought it was ironic
because I was literally just talking about how people run shit in containers and don't know wtf is going on
no lmao, they asked in tc1 first and I was like "lol no"
rubin out for ai??
wat
What are you trying to accomplish?
Its not tall enough
what do you mean out for AI
its not named after the sandwich, not interested
Oh I could go for a real Ruben
sameeee
from what i seen, it will be out for ai stuff in the near future, but the public will have to wait
You put some respect on Vera Rubin
yes mam
I'm quite literally drooling over this
Think about this for a sec - just like crypto miners... why would Nvidia release, to the public, bleeding edge AI (or crypto capable) ASICs so there's a fair playing field? Wouldn't it make sense to let the insane uplift shift hit the market like 6 - 9 months after you've already utilized it yourself?
legit
just one think running my pi-hole and npm on one service without it crashing or causing lan access failure.
When you say "NPM" which service are you referring to
nginx proxy manager
Yeah so its a home setup, yes?
Did you know that pci slots where common in server and shitty low end hardware for way too long. I have a office computer from 2016 that has a motherboard with multiple pci slots. Why would motherboard makers waste the little pci lanes they have on pci slots instead of usingthem to add more pcie slots.
yes
true
So you can set up CARP or something, clustered solutions, K8s vs. docker, but at the end of the day... its for home
i have two pis im setting up failover.
Because some people needed newer compatibility of core hardware while retaining the ability to use old hardware for machines/automation
tbh I wish I had a rig with some pci slots
I have too many old motherboards with pci
there's an old pci-based oscilloscope card that I wanna get
legacy applications, industrial, pci is the only interface for some things
sometimes you NEED pci
i think theres even lga 1700 boards with pci lol
so it was more of a question if nginx and pi-hole would cause issues with each other (outside of port 443 and 80).
Well isn't there a market for legacy compatible mordern hardware
It sounds stupid, but have you cross-checked your plans w/ copilot or something
why force yourself to make 800 different things when the original ones work just fine and make you more money?
not copilot.
Copilot stinks
Dude copilot is actually fairly accurate
Also can you just adapt pcie to pci
somewhat
ah yes another failure point lets go
Like honestly how many people even need pci
we just told you
a lot of industrial applications use pci based addin cards 😭
I miss Alex from LTT
wait alex left??
Yes
you are not the target usecase of modern pci 😭 nor is really any consumer
rip alex, will miss
Well don't industrial stuff use different hardware anyways
I don't trust after I was working on a PowerAutomate workflow and tried to ask it for help and specifically stated "Do not change the workflow, do not touch it or twist it in anyway, just give me advice" and then it just changed the whole thing and I had to start from scratch
not always
And that still doesn't explain why a office computer from 2016 had more pci slots then pcie
because pci is an easier interface to have more of
??? npm and pi-hole will run side by side and will work well but im not sure longgevity or potiential problems. yes i have done a small amount of research and found it will work if i change web gui ports for pi-hole. im just asking longevity of something like this.
most office computers have 1x16 slot and if youre lucky a 1x1 and the rest being pci
if there is anymore slots, or room for them
calling nginx proxy manager as npm is one of the worst way to shorten the name 😄
Oh also the one time I tried to use pci it didn't even work cause mordern operating systems couldn't use the drivers anymore
Because sometimes those office computers are deployed in an industrial application
Sometimes
Nginx Proxy Manager is freaking awesome. I am so happy with it.
Most of them probably not
broski i am in one of those cases
For most people, NPM is https://www.npmjs.com/, not https://nginxproxymanager.com/ 😄
WOW and would you look at all these pci cards that are for motor control!! It's almost like there is a market for this crap!!
there is 30 machines about 200ft to my left in a warehouse
I'm not your "broski"
Two different things
LOL
You can run all of those pci x64 slots off 2 old pcie lanes
i have been using it for a while but transfer it to a Pi.
Most of thoose are scsi cards and news flash they exsist for pcie, I fact I have 2 of them
I've got it running on a VPS to reverse proxy things on my home network over a VPN.
Then why the fuck is there no pcie x16 slot on the motherboard
It's almost like scsi connectors are also used for other purposes besides storage?..
Because ancient server
i see most people call it NPM as well its how i learned of it being called that.
It's not like they only had 16 pci lanes
Pci is not pcie
NO WAY I can buy the same resin printer I worked on in high school
https://www.almamachinery.com/machine/used-z-corporation-industrial-3d-printer-z406-5285/
sorry i ate the e
Actually maybe that shitty old low end xeon only has 16 pcie lanes
there is also Ivy Bridge board with ISA slot, that is even crazier
LOL
i see modern boards with at least rsome form of pci constantly because of the industrial applications
even H81
im sure thats one of them, dual mpcie+pcie+pca+isa
i would need to find a free VPS that is reliable to do that but since its lan only access and i find it easier to deal with than setting up pi-hole to do it a vps wouldnt work.
HD620-H81 uses the LGA 1150 socket to support the 4th Generation Intel® Core™ processors. Thanks to the Intel® H81 express chipset, HD620-H81 not only provides high performance I/O ports but enhances both capability and manageability. The integrated Intel® HD Graphics engine supports VGA and DVI-D displays with HD transcode performance incr...
even 9th gen https://www.dfi.com/product/index/1502
lol
Yeah I just pay a provider for a beefier one. I've been paying a locked in discounted rate for a while to run Minecraft and stuff.
🤯
Just another nifty thing to run on that box. Really worth the money IMO
I doubt any of my motherboards would be classified as that
It's almost like its NOT YOUR MARKET
so 9th gen, PCIE, ISA, PCI, SATA, is that floppy ?
So much IO. Very very based.
thats lpt in the lower left corner
I'm fresh out of PCI slots on my motherboard. I kinda wish I had that many :p
ah for me its only local stuff. my minecraft server is being ran on a different network with a different system.
hes got just the thing for you apparently
or not to waste bandwidth...
lowkey thats kinda cool
(also unlike the china adapters, this has reasonable power connector orientation)
I use my VPS to run lighter stuff and also use it to forward traffic for heavier stuff to machines on my home network. It's turbo port forwarding lol
Lets me use my domain name for everything
i dont port forward on the network using npm.
I wish there was a opposite of this
pi-hole its just the dhcp server for that network which is why i use it.
Very cool
I am tempted to setup pi-hole someday but I am worried about causing problems
why do you want pci
i once scored a board for pretty much free once, which makes next to no sense whatsoever with it's naming etc
PCI is dead ass dead
NUH UH
got too many PCI 😄
Apparently alot of people here like legacy trash trash stuff
but im trying to reduce computer over head and shutdown a computer that is being used just for npm.
It's not trash if people are finding a proper use for it.
I mean pcie as well lol. Just in general I am out of em :p
The last slot I recently filled with a capture card
are you baiting or just this baffled that theres uses for old things 😭
which is why i asked about the long gevity of running npm and pi-hole together.
PCI has a bandwidth of 133MB/s shared across all the slots.
PCI x64 was double that, but again, shared across all the slots.
Broski's obv baiting
baiting
I don't see why it would cause problems. I run Nginx Proxy Manager alongside a bunch of other things. It's just a docker image.
dockers whole point is to run a crap ton of containers at once
Pci is fucking stone age shit bruh and no I'm not "baiting"
and then on other side i got this Z87 board which is way better than that ASUS H81 GAMER, but unfortunately this one refuses to see an NVMe drive in any PCIe adapter i got
so like double no worries
Yeah it should be totally fine
in terms of "this tickles my fancy and i want to goof around with shizz" it's fun
But like, to actually want to use it is beyond baffling
you put my words in quotes and then proceed to use words like "bruh"
You are 100% baiting & being an uneducated banana
I could go to my work and find 100s of pci devices
you're not grown dawg just accept that industrial applications are decades behind and because they dont need anything more complex 😭
this would be a red flag to me
im sure i can go into the warehouse and find something with a pci card in it
Says the person who uses "broski"
we still use Sharepoint 2010 stuff
It's almost like 32-bit is plenty enough for 99% of robotics & automation systems!
my oldest stuff i actually use (if you can call that) is a Z77 system for one specific task. Above that i got some X99 and AM4 systems which barely get any use, but i don't see the point in trying to sell them
I've got one of these. Freaking awesome little capture card if all you need is 1080p for capturing consoles. Very very low delay even in the preview window, and no delay perceptible at ALL in passthrough.
and i use it proudly, ur just trying to flame me because your arguments dont make any sense
i talk the way i talk because i want to
How can yall even use pci cards in 2025, last time I tried nothing worked
Dude you're looping, step back and reevaluate the conversation. You're getting heated and therefore annoying
There aint no mordern drivers for shit
i am not using a pci card im saying there are plenty of businesses using pci
dont run a modern os 🤯
Linux
to this DAY
Unless your drivers are for Win9X I don't see what could be a problem.
Linux distros were thinking about removing Pentium support like 1-2 years ago
do you think i have use for an industrial motor controller?
They probably are...
no not really...but someone does lol
its not like pci ethernet (most of the time, youd be surprised but thats usually negligence)
i did at one point.
Also like I tried installing them on server 2008r2 which is honestly a shit os
Oh I get it, you just don't know what you're doing at all
I don't understand why you wouldn't just use up-to-date software in the year 2025 if you're just doing home lab stuff
coffee people are.... different:
You'd have no idea when I'd tell you to do vdi stuff
imagine young people trying to use Windows Home Server 2011, they would be so confused
Do you mean dvi?..
virtual desktop
Virtual Desktops? I've run those before.
not that deep
Citrix was a pain in my fuckin' ass
Nope vdi
