#tech-chat-2

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turbid locust
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yup

merry stirrup
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ill buy core ultra or wait for nvl and my sister wants a fractal terra computer so she'll get the edge and KS

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and some shitter video card overkill fr

pallid marsh
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I didn't know your sister was a gamer

merry stirrup
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not really tbh but she wants a computer

pallid marsh
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13900ks regular computer?

merry stirrup
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sure

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gf will get mpower and 14900k and i will surely tune it

merry stirrup
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nah more like a 2070s or something

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not that shit

pallid marsh
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Damn

merry stirrup
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its like 6 years old dont damn me

pallid marsh
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Just use the integrated graphics?

merry stirrup
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it needs to be moderately capable she kinda plays games

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not often but she expects them to work lol

fervent scaffold
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Kinda loving this $20 redragon mouse

topaz veldt
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nice

merry stirrup
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i use an attack shark x3 at work its nice enough

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superlight clone and they really mean it

turbid locust
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I bought an attack shark R6 and I liked it at first but went back to my Viper V2 Pro cause it was kinda small for me

merry stirrup
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going to try and finalize an 8k tune this weekend

fervent scaffold
merry stirrup
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i have an 8k profile that failed yc after 12 hours

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straight pain

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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i play 1440p tho

turbid locust
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I just have an extra AM5 board idk what to do with because I dont have the box or socket cover

hoary hatch
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I fucked up so bad

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I decided to make Japanese curry with beef tonight

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Didn't read the part where I have to let the meat simmer for 2 hours

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It's 9pm and I still have almost half an hour till it's ready

turbid locust
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happens to the best of us lol

pure garnet
turbid locust
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still kinda useless without a box to ship it in

pure garnet
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im shipping my strix in a b760 board box

turbid locust
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no

pure garnet
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atx is atx nodders

hoary hatch
pure garnet
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im kinda tempted to pickup 265k and an aorus master

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but i'd also need to order a 360 aio and a new case to fit said aio

hoary hatch
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Recipe writer says "while onions are cooking for ~20 minutes, prepare the rest of the ingredients"

Bitch it took me at least an hour to prepare everything

pure garnet
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so i'm less tempted because that's like a $800 investment total

turbid locust
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look on Newegg for some AIO bundles

wise bear
turbid locust
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ik awhile back they were giving AIOs for free

hoary hatch
hoary hatch
turbid locust
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But yeah anyways, back on topic, I wanna sell a buncha stuff

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All my AM4 stuff, spare case, monitor, etc

oak vector
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Henlo TC2

oak vector
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Why is discord mobile so bad

fervent scaffold
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Single monitor gang

turbid locust
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discord fullscreen is based

oak vector
fervent scaffold
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Currently rocking a single 27ā€ 1440p 180hz ips

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Really want to get a 4k 32ā€ 240ā€ oled

oak vector
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That’s alright
But i love a big main monitor

oak vector
fervent scaffold
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I feel dumb with a single 1440p 180z ips on a 5070ti

oak vector
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Idk id say that’s probably the sweet spot for a 5070ti

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At 4K there’s not many games you’d be able to run at 240 fps

fervent scaffold
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At 4k

oak vector
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True

fervent scaffold
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And 240fps at 1440p on others

oak vector
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How’s your experience with framegen?

astral portal
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I'm not in a dedicated headphones server, not an active one anyways so sorry need purchase advice and asking a few places and seeing who answers first.

If I have roughly $150-160 to spend and it has to be noise canceling, can I do better then the Sony wh 1000 xm4s (dam this is a long name) on amazon for $165 renewed?

fervent scaffold
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Mostly just use dlss and get great frame rates

fervent scaffold
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But also $

fervent scaffold
nova trout
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i don't understand this

fervent scaffold
nova trout
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PCIE3 says (PCIe 4.0 x16 slot)
same for PCIE1
but for the first it says "used for x16 lane width"
the third says "used for x4 lane width"

pure grail
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the () refers to the physical length of the slot
but electrically only x4 is connected

nova trout
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ok that makes sense

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they should put that on the box

astral portal
nova trout
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the only person i trust on the internet and would take their word for granted is based tyrone

fervent scaffold
astral portal
fervent scaffold
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Get bang for your $

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I dont know a ton about audio in terms of headphones, but I do for stereos, I very much appreciate good sounding stuff that doesnt break the bank

astral portal
nova trout
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What is it
Where is it
How

oak vector
brisk eagle
nova trout
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Have to look up where everything is all the time

brisk eagle
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Oh yikes

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I love bios search fxn its so nice

nova trout
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That moment when every second feels like a decade

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Also when you wish you bought that ups

brisk eagle
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That moment when you flash a modded bios to your server board with absolutely no protections

nova trout
frank cypress
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wait, damn the 265k is cheap nowadays

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honestly kinda a good buy for power users

fervent scaffold
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Which i know is standard, but its my only monitor

green marsh
brave lava
nova trout
green marsh
minor herald
# topaz veldt

i wonder what the odds of ddr5 6000 ram being faster on zen5

vestal granite
brisk jolt
wraith steeple
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Just finished up some late night mock ups

brisk jolt
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i just got my sf850 back

wraith steeple
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Doing a mock up for the "Kid: Mom, I want a Fractal Torrent. Mom: We have Fractal Torrent at home. Fractal Torrent at Home:" case I bought a couple years ago during Black Friday sale on Amazon

strange ginkgo
wraith steeple
green marsh
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oh well, RIP, the friend who was selling me the 2x32GB + 2x16GB + 1x8GB SODIMM DDR4s for 160 euros found out that one of the 32GB modules is dead. Still at least that saves me 40 euros compared to new, which is still a lot. So at least my Mac Mini 2018 will be now maxed out from RAM standpoint, will see how the ones i might get from work will end up being upgraded from their 8GB status. Maybe 32GB, maybe 64GB.

nova trout
vestal granite
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they should stop putting benches in some places and instead put leanin walls like little walls u can just lean on and it has like a elbow spot so you can use your phone comfortably

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would be good for the people of the world cause they dont gotta hunch over on their phone on a bench

snow holly
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My Bagel shop > Your bagel shop

green marsh
nova trout
green marsh
nova trout
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5700xt
Ryzen 5 3600x
Got em in October 2019

green marsh
nova trout
green marsh
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he had stuttering, but who knows how does it behave for you

nova trout
shell void
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@topaz veldt youre going to have to get one of these for your collection

nova trout
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Rn on fresh windows and good driver so software is ruled out

green marsh
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LOL Apple

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but to be fair, it depends on what one considers user installable. They got SODIMM slots, but you have to unscrew a total of 15 screws and disconnect 3 cables to reach the modules

pure grail
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sticky notes needing updates is a level of enshittification i didnt expect

nova trout
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Ran a second 8 pin from psu to gpu

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Been running six years on single 8 pin to two 2-6 daisy chained
I blamed psu for providing such cables ngl

green marsh
cyan canopy
nova trout
nova trout
cyan canopy
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everything works. except under these specific conditions wich is hard to recreate

green marsh
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it could still be a CPU degradation or something else, but again, switching GPU to 2 power cables is a free option to test out šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

nova trout
nova trout
cyan canopy
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depends how hard you fucked it

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if its running at 100% all the time yea easily

nova trout
cyan canopy
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i was going to say "depends, did you use lube or not" lul

green marsh
nova trout
nova trout
nova trout
green marsh
# nova trout If pc survives stress test tools is cpu still dying and only shows its weakness...

it could be having issues at specific tasks. For example my 5950x was fine, if i disabled global c-states. If i didn't do that, then it would freeze randomly after it sat at idle and then some tasks wanted to run on a core the CPU couldn't wake up from sleep. You could have a CPU whcih degraded a bit, so it runs fine at low or full load, but at specific frequencies or load situations it hits an issue where for example voltage is not enough for that specific frequency.

green marsh
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that's why it is good to start with fixes which can be done for free first. Btw just in case, how many memory modules do you have ? 2 or 4 ?

nova trout
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Two

green marsh
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ok then, that is just one more situation when for example 4 modules sometimes need increased SOC Voltage. But with two, you should be fine

brisk jolt
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yo why does the girl at the beginning of e33 run so fast

pure grail
brisk jolt
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does she have like 700 horsepower

nova trout
pure grail
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how did u determine its xmp stable

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also its corsair lpx so +1 to sus

nova trout
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For oc it’s xmp
And it’s stable meaning it doesn’t crash restart and reset to 2666 like it used when I first got it in 2019

nova trout
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Idk honestly

pure grail
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its been training for 6 years for a rematch

nova trout
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That’s so funny it should be illegal

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Might cause a heart attack

unreal trout
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getting random crashes.. display goes out.. tired a lot of things..now i want to check if updating my bios fixes the issue

my concern is it safe to update bios in this state?

nova trout
# nova trout

Update: it didn’t do it
Although I got more consistent fps after running another power cable but the crash ultimately came

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@green marsh to update you

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It is a good thing to do either way

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So we got that out

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Is there a definitive way to know if it’s the cpu

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Or know if it’s anything

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Without swapping them out because people don’t usually have spare stuff laying around lol

nova trout
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Actually no the bios itself reset itself

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Because I lost fast boot too so bios reset

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Idk man

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Could be the ram could be the psu could be the gpu could be the power cable could be the cpu could be the temps. Could be the software could be the bios could be windows could be Microsoft. Could be a conspiracy by these companies CEOs to keep us suffering while they profit from making chips that are intended to fail within 30 years or less could be a lot of sugar in our diet
Idk anymore this is too much for a human being to deal with

nova trout
nova trout
pure grail
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i mean it could just crash without bsod

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try playing with 2133 if it still crashes
there should be buildzoid or pinned guides in oc for ddr4 if u want to claw perf back

nova trout
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I’ll run a game with the that speed and wait for a crash

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If no crash we’ll know ram is sus

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The ram always been sus ngl

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But below 3200 everything feels slow

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I tried 2666 once really feel the slowness

fringe vigil
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C5 on sale

edgy laurel
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not here

nova trout
shell void
edgy laurel
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Ā£1,099.00 is the best ive seen in the UK

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so MSRP

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~$1500 US

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jorj is just saying things

shell void
fringe vigil
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But with discount I can get down more

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Yeah UK sale

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Why would I care about US

dapper plaza
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Guys is this psu good?

turbid locust
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Man I love work calls at 9am on a Sunday

young void
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What a box

spare tinsel
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is my pc drunk

fringe vigil
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yh

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust ship it.

turbid locust
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Noice lmao

shell void
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you should be able to do it on the Apex

wise bear
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Mooornin'

topaz veldt
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I like this tune because its a good combo of bandwidth and latency

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we all know AM5 dies around 100 GB/s

shell void
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yeah the 9950X3D is basically capped at ddr5 6400 anyway

turbid locust
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I know I’m going to eventually do a 2:1 tune on the 9800X3D but I’m going to enjoy 1:1 bliss for a bit

shell void
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but you will get more bandwidth if you run 8400/2100 because of the higher fclk

topaz veldt
shell void
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my 9800x3d has fantastic memory controllers but it acts funky with 2200FCLK which pisses me off

topaz veldt
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Going 8400 to 8600 on Intel is like 4-6 GB/s on RAM bandwidth

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8800 CL38 I am like almost 140 GB/s, AM5 could never

shell void
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iirc the difference betweeen 2000fclk and 2200fclk is like 7GB/s

turbid locust
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9800X3D plz have decent IMC pepePray

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late stage silicon plz pepePray

shell void
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so i just run ye olde 2133

shell void
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i pray you dont get one like graphically challenged who can barely even run 3000uclk

wise bear
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graphically challenged

shell void
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yes thats his channel name xd

wise bear
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beautiful

topaz veldt
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Maybe on paper but never actually measured that huge of an increase

shell void
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it may not be the same on dual ccd

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my 7GB/s figure comes from remembering going from 63GB/s -> 70GB/s on 9800X3D

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you obviously dont get 126->140GB/s on dual ccd chips

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so it probably doesnt scale the same

topaz veldt
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Maybe that's possible I have never tried - on dual CCD the hard cap is like 105-106 GB/s but those people are running chillers and shit with massively OC'd RAM and CPUs. The most I have ever seen is maybe 101-102 GB/s on very aggressive tuning.

turbid locust
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MSI where’s my AM5 mpower

topaz veldt
shell void
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god bless good guy amd using the same dirt cheap chiplet packaging since ryzen 3000

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majority shareholders smiling ear to ear because of the profit margins

turbid locust
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I think my 9800x3d is either gonna be the biggest Mac bin or super swag

shell void
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my crystal balls says 3100uclk 1.25vsoc

topaz veldt
shell void
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bog standard asf

topaz veldt
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I predict 6000 CL28 @ 1.3vsoc

turbid locust
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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5600 CL34 @ 1.28vsoc

shell void
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this failed at around 3 3/4 hours last night

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im guessing it's because trc48 is extremely aggressive

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ill retest it with trc64 tonight

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because this passed ages ago and had higher trc

topaz veldt
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80 is soft

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im like 70

shell void
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im gonna test it with 126 tras and 64 trc tonight

turbid locust
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has to be better than my 7700x right

topaz veldt
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i dunno dude there are some fuckin dud 9800x3d's

shell void
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your 7700x is below average so yeah you are likely to get a better 9800x3d

topaz veldt
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I mean if I were AMD I'd be willing to release some mid af 9800x3ds knowing 90% of the builds will be 5600-6000

turbid locust
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I just need 6600 1:1 stable ngl

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Simple ask

topaz veldt
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lol

shell void
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just message sugi0lover and ask to buy his unicorn bin 9800x3d that asus gave him

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out of like 125 samples or something

topaz veldt
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7600 1:1

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was talking CPUs with a friend and they were like "its a shame AMD has to run gear 2 for 6800"

shell void
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intel never ran ddr5 in gear 1 xd

topaz veldt
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I didn't get their reference at first .. turns out they thought intel runs gear 1

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yeah

shell void
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ddr5 gear 1 is a silly quirk

topaz veldt
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they thought intel was 1:1

shell void
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pushing VSOC near the safety limit just to run low speeds šŸ”„

turbid locust
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now that I think about it.. are XMP/EXPO profiles for gear 2 speeds even stable

shell void
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8000? no most boards cant even do it

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on chiplet cpus anyway

turbid locust
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I mean with how sweet spotty the voltages are

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Even if your cpu and board could do the speed, there’s no fkin way it knows what voltages to use

shell void
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i think it's more a matter of having tuned impedances when youre nearing board limit

topaz veldt
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Sorry not Hopper64, LuftManu

shell void
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if youre using an expo kit on the qvl then your board probably sets those better

shell void
topaz veldt
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also...

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doing CA CK and CS ODT Group B to 60 bro was able to get to 8200 GDM off on similar tune

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damn he's under 120ns trfc

shell void
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i have never learned about CA/CK/CS

topaz veldt
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8300 CL34 could be nice

wise bear
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why does ram have to have like 30 parameters

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can't it have, i dunno, 5?

shell void
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no

wise bear
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šŸ˜”

fringe vigil
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top of the morning

shell void
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@steel stream @hoary hatch šŸ‘€

wise bear
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triple lan and so much usb2

shell void
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a pantherlake miniPC test board of sorts

green marsh
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huge success. Now it's time to install Linux šŸ˜„

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you are asking who ?

young void
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Michaels* but doesn't quite look the same

green marsh
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meanwhile in china they go full crazy with stuff like 8845HS

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they at least use the rear of the motherboard too šŸ˜„

young void
brisk jolt
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i cannot escape ts

frank cypress
topaz veldt
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When is it enough @shell void

shell void
topaz veldt
shell void
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you asked

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if x870e taichi ocf is cheap because of the asrock kaboom then i’ll be interested

topaz veldt
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yeah no thanks on that one

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A) hideous - bad karma for OC B) ASRock clearly doesn't know whats happening to AMD CPUs in their boards

shell void
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it do be super fugly

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i slightly regret not grabbing the z890 OCF while it was briefly $350

topaz veldt
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yeah that was a good deal

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I wish OCN had a section for AMD Gear 1 vs Gear 2

shell void
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you don’t wanna hang out with us gear 1 copers? šŸ„€

pure garnet
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3 weeks of karhu or unstable fr

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
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I still cannot run E33 without it shitting itself

raw zinc
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Why does my PC not show my home network but shows other ones?

shell void
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glossy gen 4 w-oled my beloved

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2026 cannot come soon enough

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2160p gen 4 woled monitors, zen 6, and novalake 😻

torpid cargo
torpid cargo
shell void
torpid cargo
shell void
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if youre talking about the old lg display roadmap then that was false info

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well not false, just incomplete very early info

torpid cargo
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Ahh okay. Damn.

shell void
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the "rgb" panels on that are the "primary rgb tandem w-oled", aka 4th gen w-oled

torpid cargo
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Oh that’s lies

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šŸ˜‚

shell void
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i need 32" 5120x2880 glossy oled pls

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not qd-oled though

brave panther
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microoled and as big of a screen you want

shell void
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yah head mounted displays are near future endgame i think

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they need to improve a bit more though

vale cosmos
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nah, embrace crt

fringe vigil
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Wasup

brave panther
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when does tobi eye tracking patent expire?

shell void
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bigscreen beyond 2 is a great form factor but i would need higher resolution displays to be happy

shell void
topaz veldt
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its a shame VR headsets have kinda died

shell void
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i dont think they have

brave panther
shell void
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bigscreen beyond 2 and vision pro are cool, and i think valve has a new one coming

topaz veldt
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there's been no new anything

brave panther
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and bunch more from pimax

green marsh
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apple and their arbitrary timeframes

shell void
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scav mask

topaz veldt
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Its only 2560x2560 per eye

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my years old vive pro 2 is 2448x2448, thats meh increase

brave panther
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"only"

topaz veldt
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yeah only

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have you played much VR @brave panther

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2448x2448 is only barely usable as a virtual monitor

shell void
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we need 15360x15360 per eye before we're even beginning to approach diminishing returns

brave panther
topaz veldt
brave panther
topaz veldt
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that's not what i said

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yeah I have played on earlier headsets too

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development has died big time on headset resolution

shell void
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i want to play blade and sorcery at 15360x7680

topaz veldt
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I just want 4K per eye

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2560x2560 is lame af

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for $1k no less

brave panther
topaz veldt
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Yeah pi max is out on its own island of wtf

shell void
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im gonna be disappointed if the valve deckard is only 1440p per eye and cheap to be competitive with the quest 3

brave panther
shell void
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but im sure that's what it will be

shell void
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5090 is a HUGE upgrade over the 4090 for high resolution VR gaming

topaz veldt
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yep

brave panther
shell void
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good luck discerning anything with 1440p per eye

topaz veldt
shell void
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6090 will be another huge vr upgrade if it gets those 42.5Gbps G7 chips

brave panther
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ill upgrade soonā„¢

topaz veldt
brave panther
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i only use quadros as encoders

cerulean cosmos
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how did THIS work?

shell void
topaz veldt
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I think if I had a 1080 and VR I'd think things were fine, too

cerulean cosmos
cerulean cosmos
shell void
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produce waste heat

brave panther
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WTF is this

topaz veldt
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thats an OEM card

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modded with blower

shell void
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i dont think those will be very popular

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4090 48GB is cheaper

brave panther
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but le china
its le banned

cerulean cosmos
shell void
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having 16GB more vram per card is more useful for most things

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and theyre cheaper

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itll be interesting when we start seeing 5090 64GB and 5090 96GB chinese cards

topaz veldt
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we need 4k per eye vr

green marsh
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not even 20 minutes after saying it will take over 4 hours to install macOS šŸ˜„

topaz veldt
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Intel MacBook fail

spare tinsel
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does anyone know why my task manager has two lines

vestal granite
spiral quarry
green marsh
spare tinsel
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cpu yeah

wraith steeple
vestal granite
# spare tinsel cpu yeah

okay i dont have a followup, right click the graph and see if it says something like kernel time

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the dotted area is something like "how much time is the CPU spending in OS related stuffses", lower = snappier experience

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assuming kernel time is checked in the right click menu of the CPU graph

topaz veldt
green marsh
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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wtf did apple call those, warp drives or something?

green marsh
green marsh
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not the 2018 mac mini šŸ™‚

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took like 30-40 minutes for full reinstall, it's just that it started with estimate of over 4 hours

topaz veldt
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oh then thats nicer, the laptops all (I think) had the 128 or 256GB "SSD" slapped on a spinning disk

turbid locust
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I hope this cpu knows it's getting shot with 9mm tmr if no good imc

green marsh
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this is a 2018 mini with i5-8500B and 250GB SSD, upgraded RAM to 64GB, now i am preparing the Ubuntu installer ISO

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust I have never really tested this 9800X3D i have

topaz veldt
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not sure what I'd replace with, or if its even a good cpu

turbid locust
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if it has a decent imc I will pay retail

topaz veldt
turbid locust
topaz veldt
wraith steeple
turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
zenith fog
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I find it funny how jawa says they cut down on scalping and put a price cap yet allows $3000+ 5090’s

turbid locust
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it's not really scalping when new models are available under that

shell void
turbid locust
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if you're paying 3K+ for a 5090 when they're readilty available new for 2.5k or lower... lol

zenith fog
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Well yeah that’s why I’m saying I think it’s funny

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Why get a used one for more when you can get a new one for less

wraith steeple
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Deciding on what to do for that "Fractal Torrent at home:" case that I bought some time ago

shell void
cerulean cosmos
turbid locust
zenith fog
turbid locust
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anyone else will be buying a cheaper 5090 lol

zenith fog
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Ah yes why buy a 5080 when I can buy a 4080 for more

edgy laurel
cerulean cosmos
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lol

edgy laurel
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looks like garbage

cerulean cosmos
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just curious if any of you know abt it

vestal granite
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yeah I know quite a bit about it

edgy laurel
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classic fuck up my computer script

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the fuck is it doing

vestal granite
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its a 1982 american science fiction action adventure film written and directed by steven lisberger

cerulean cosmos
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i ...

shell void
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@merry stirrup my friend who bought the same 2x24 8000cl36 patriot kit has had a bad time xddd

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his heatspreaders literally fell off

wraith steeple
shell void
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i tried to rip mine off and i couldn’t, i think he got really unlucky with QC somehow

vestal granite
cerulean cosmos
# edgy laurel classic fuck up my computer script

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turbid locust
shell void
turbid locust
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as a ram heatspreader hater

edgy laurel
vestal granite
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i think humid air carries more heat so just put a humidifier infront of your intake fans and itll improve cooling performance

shell void
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well now we know that these are the chips patriot is using for their 8000cl36 1.4vdd kits

edgy laurel
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crap like this is the stuff people run and then later complain in here and tech support when their PC is fucked

vestal granite
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i dont have news for you i just like saying hoowee have i got news for you

edgy laurel
vestal granite
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wow im sure this means a lot to people who run it

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people who run this script are sure to know what these things do and mean

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sorry in what universe do you need to clear windows event logs to optimize anything

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if your machine cant handle windows event logs you have much larger problems

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am i crazy here surely im not crazy here

wise bear
turbid locust
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do not buy that in 2025

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especially at that price

toxic grotto
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Don’t cross post, and notice how you got the same answer?

turbid locust
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@edgy laurel Do you still play The First Descendant?

edgy laurel
turbid locust
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I was wondering if I should revisit it

fringe vigil
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SILKSONG is gonna be so good

topaz veldt
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Still going, only because I have no reason to use that PC today lol

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FWIW if anyone is curious what the 6000 CL26 1.45v sticks do at 1.6v for almost 24 hours...

shell void
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throw on some furmark for the remaining 3 hours

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
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temps are flat lining

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I don't see issues usually until 56C, so 6+ C headroom

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solid 600W load on 5090, fan curve silent

turbid locust
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I may go for some gear 2 stuff if I get a B850 Mpower

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Idk if i wanna bother on the HDV

topaz veldt
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after all these part exchanges mac i feel like you could have just picked up an apex

turbid locust
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AM5 or LGA1700 apex?

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because ive not spent that much in all actuality considering im selling stuff

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My whole intel adventure was funded by my XTX lol

pure garnet
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honestly you've probably gotten more hours of entertainment out of the multiple platforms too

wraith steeple
spiral quarry
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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I just... cant bring myself to spend that much on a motherboard lol

topaz veldt
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i know but you end up trying to max out stuff that is relatively unpopular as a whole and then only get like 7/10s there

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trust me i get it but with x870e at least you'll get zen6 on it

shell void
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yeah i’m just gonna buy high end 2 dimmers from now on because my tomahawk failing to give me 8000 pissed me off

vestal granite
turbid locust
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motherboard the price of a 5070Ti

pure garnet
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it’s a relatively common speed on that board

wraith steeple
shell void
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the -E seems like a fine board nowadays

pure garnet
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the -e is also like 500 bucks tbf

turbid locust
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lol theres a newegg bundle with the apex and 9800X3D for 1k

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plus free MSI AIO

pure garnet
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i originally wanted to do an x870-e but at $480 i didn’t

turbid locust
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nah I still cant justify the apex dude

wraith steeple
pure garnet
turbid locust
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I think the B850 Mpower will be a really good board assuming it ever releases

turbid locust
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thats why I have a x570 CH8DH

pure garnet
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i haven’t owned a 2 dimmer since like my crappy compaq pc but if reasonable priced atx one exist i’d be interested

shell void
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$700 board with an 8 core cpu is lulz

pure garnet
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yeah the intel boards justify themselves a lot more

merry stirrup
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its either, the power supply is a good first step

pure garnet
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i’m tempted to get the master but it’s still 4 dimm

shell void
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the taichi ocf is ā€œonlyā€ $500 but its butt ugly

turbid locust
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like I just cant justify a $750 board when I can get like 85% of the experience with a $140 board and 95% of the experience with a $300 board lmao

pure garnet
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master at $360 is the most id want to pay for a board atm

wraith steeple
# spiral quarry <:PauseChamp:870596594079236116>

Yep decided to try to finally cook something for the "Kid: Mom, can we buy Fractal Torrent? Mom: No, we have Fractal Torrent at home. Fractal Torrent at home:" case that I bought a couple years ago from Amazon during Black Friday sale

turbid locust
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I just want the mpower damn it

pure garnet
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ehhh

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i don’t really want the 265k rn

wraith steeple
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Even used isn't safe from ROG tax

pure garnet
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my amd system is just pissing me off

wraith steeple
pure garnet
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i know either way once i get off this 8 core i need a new case and a 360 aio

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the d15s is not doing 250w comfortably

shell void
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there is a not insignificant chance that my next board is either a W680 for BTL-S A0, or a W890 for GNR-W

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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the HDV isnt bad, my 7700x is

shell void
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yeah it would be nice to just buy an Apex and know for a fact that if you can’t get 8000 to work then it’s a skill issue

turbid locust
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mpower would simply be my last AM5 board

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if they ever release the damn thing

spiral quarry
pure garnet
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$700 vs a 6200 g1 setup

turbid locust
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8000 on AM5 is faster than anything gear 1

topaz veldt
pure garnet
turbid locust
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fk no

merry stirrup
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when has the edge of memory tuning ever been noticably better

turbid locust
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what

merry stirrup
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what

frank cypress
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265k is cheap now in Canada too šŸ‘€

merry stirrup
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like, bleeding edge

shell void
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WE yes WE need this

pure garnet
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my point was just it’s more cost effective to get a g1 cope tune setup

frank cypress
pure garnet
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similar performance with far less stress

merry stirrup
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my point is that its not his goal to get a meta g1 cope tune setup

shell void
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i need an unlocked version of that

pure garnet
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yeah mac isn’t buying an apex tho

frank cypress
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šŸ‘€

pure garnet
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that die looks crazy

frank cypress
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oh yeah it says 48 p cores

merry stirrup
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lol

shell void
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yah it’s xeon 6 granite rapids

frank cypress
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I just saw 48 and went neurons activated

merry stirrup
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we all wish bro

shell void
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up to 48 big cores per compute tile, and up to 12 channels of ddr5 8800mt/s

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best cpus in the world atm

turbid locust
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if the mpower never releases I may grab a cope itx board

pure garnet
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isn’t the mpower a different chipset that didn’t launch

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b850e or something

merry stirrup
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seems like it

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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theres an 870i wifi

frank cypress
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the things I would do for one

turbid locust
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I just need AM5 to have a good mATX board that isnt the Gene

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if I wanted to pay for a Gene i'd just get an apex

shell void
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i imagine the b850 mpower will be released whenever 9700F and 9500F are

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i’m not sure what the date on those is

turbid locust
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They said Q3 on the mpower which theoretically gives them till the end of september

shell void
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that would line up with a lot of monitors becoming available in late september

merry stirrup
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because yeah its a b850e board

shell void
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i hate that AMD has used like 10 arbitrary names for the same chipset

merry stirrup
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its got terrible IO surprising

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7 usb a and 1 display output

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5g ethernet tho thats nice

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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that is sad

shell void
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the 6980P (128 core) is $6000

merry stirrup
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my edge doesnt have great io either

pure garnet
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the gene really does sit alone

frank cypress
merry stirrup
frank cypress
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(i have $10 cad in my wallet)

merry stirrup
frank cypress
topaz veldt
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gene was cool but irrelevant now

turbid locust
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hardly

frank cypress
topaz veldt
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totally is

shell void
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it’s so annoying that china gets cheap 2 dimm atx boards

merry stirrup
shell void
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like b650 tachyon and z790 ayw oc

merry stirrup
frank cypress
merry stirrup
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whats it need flashback for

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its z790

frank cypress
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its useful to have anyways no?

merry stirrup
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theres no cpus incompatible with the board out of the box

frank cypress
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and i can't imagine it's a cheap board so

pure garnet
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if it’s late z790 there’s literally no cpu it won’t boot on stock

merry stirrup
turbid locust
frank cypress
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I feel like its something it should have by virtue of being not cheap

frank cypress
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y'feel

merry stirrup
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theres no bioses that are locked and force you not to downgrade either

merry stirrup
frank cypress
merry stirrup
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theres no pins on the board to clear cmos

shell void
frank cypress
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this is the one thing I really enjoy about msi boards

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rear cmos clear is very convenient

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I will give it to msi

topaz veldt
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most higher end boards have that

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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and if they don't it sa $0.99 button from amazon

merry stirrup
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if that button breaks like the flashback did on my z790e-e its game over

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no more cmos clear and this board is useless

topaz veldt
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i bet you can take the io cover off and find the two pins the button shorts

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its not plug and play but yeah its not life ending

merry stirrup
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probably but that would require taking apart my entire computer and at that point id just replace whats in there

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go to z890 or whatever

topaz veldt
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over a CMOS clear? yeesh

merry stirrup
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yes

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im likely going to put macs mpower in my rig cause i think it looks cool

pure garnet
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i mean how likely is the button to fail

topaz veldt
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like 0.0001%

merry stirrup
shell void
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i’ve pressed it on my tomahawk like 500 times

merry stirrup
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me as well

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although i have working safeboot

turbid locust
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ill be back home on AM5

merry stirrup
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get something not shit like itx or something

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b650i boards are cheap

turbid locust
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when they release a board worth buying I will

merry stirrup
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b650i strix would be a suitable upgrade

shell void
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might have a new low voltage winner

turbid locust
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otherwise HDV is love HDV is life

shell void
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now that i posted that it will fail in 5 minutes

frank cypress
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arghhhh I dont want to have to drain it noooo

merry stirrup
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r u swapin

frank cypress
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pain in the ass PepeWhy

frank cypress
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and friend is asking me to go buy and test a card so

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its gotta come out

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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wait mac i got something for you

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the b650i night devil

turbid locust
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I really dont want ITX

merry stirrup
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(its ass)

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its made by... jginyue

shell void
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@topaz veldt just try every $250 1dpc board in existence instead of buying an apex

merry stirrup
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the same peopel who make x99 china boards yes

merry stirrup
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i should give them more credit i think they made am4 stuff too

turbid locust
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"every $250 1dpc board" like I dont sell em

merry stirrup
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you can only scam me so many times before i catch on

turbid locust
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scam? floppa im losing money on the mpower lmfao

topaz veldt
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how many boards have you gone thru?

merry stirrup
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yeah im playing i know

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however its for funny number cant be that mad

shell void
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this board fucks

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i wish the z890 master ai top looked like this

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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those wack ass pcie slots y r they like that

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for what purpose

topaz veldt
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z790 apex is only like $350-375 on ebay

merry stirrup
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for a cringe white one

shell void
turbid locust
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yeah intel makes me wanna shoot myself so idc

shell void
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he cant handle the power of a 14900k

merry stirrup
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apex encore>

topaz veldt
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a04 > encore

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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we'll see i made a spreadsheet of words of the deraged (voltage combos) and we'll see if its all rng

topaz veldt
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bro is casting smokey mountain PC spells on us

turbid locust
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I want it to be a skill issue

merry stirrup
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ignore the "rng bro"

topaz veldt
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were you able to get the vid table

shell void
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@topaz veldt would you buy an asus xtreme if it was 1dpc

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or do you have no interest in eatx

merry stirrup
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msi cant do it and ayw oc is technically lower end than prime

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so it doesnt get vid tables

topaz veldt
shell void
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pain

topaz veldt
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if eatx actually offered anything i'd consider it

shell void
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this is interesting

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$100 all mesh case and a free triple pack of high end fans

topaz veldt
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how much? a zillion

shell void
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šŸ—£ļø

merry stirrup
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that is me

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i proceed memory testing

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the spreadsheet grows

cyan mountain
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guys so im a lil stuck on what to do so i need a new pc
but i only have £140 to get 1 that handles fiveM should i buy a pc and keep it or
would you recommend flipping pcs i dont know much about building pcs i only know about pcs

devout ridge
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whats wrong with your current PC

cyan mountain
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quite alot

devout ridge
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does the screen function

cyan mountain
devout ridge
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i see no problems with your current setup

merry stirrup
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small mousepad

devout ridge
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140eur won't get you a better laptop than you already have

merry stirrup
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a better mouse ig lol

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just peripherals

cyan mountain
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well on facebook marketplace it would im running a i3

devout ridge
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"i3" means absolutely nothing

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that could mean literally hundreds of different chips

cyan mountain
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i can't remember what exact cpu i know its a 11th gen core i 3

devout ridge
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that is a pretty solid CPU

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again, you won't really do better than that with 140eur

pure garnet
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at 140 quid just save your money

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i don't think you can get anything meaningfully better until 300 or so

merry stirrup
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or just buy better peripherals if you care that bad lowk

pure garnet
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better display maybe that tv looks older than mine

merry stirrup
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you can get a better monitor or a new keeb and mouse and mousepad

fringe vigil
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bruh metro redux is a crazy game

rocky torrent
wraith steeple
hoary hatch
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So far the $40 1080ti turns on

turbid locust
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lol im playing a not-real-money blackjack game online and the dealer just pulled a fuckin 6 card blackjack are we fr

merry stirrup
fringe vigil
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20 of these mf chasing you

rocky torrent
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bro hell nah

fringe vigil
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fr

hoary hatch
rocky torrent
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i got stuck early in exodus over some nonsense that was almost certainly less threatening than that

fringe vigil
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crazy

merry stirrup
hoary hatch
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My keyboard and mouse aren't working

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Uhhhhh

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All I did was change the GPU

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Update: keyboard was set to mac mode and mouse battery was dead

merry stirrup
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lmao

hoary hatch
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Time to download a donut

merry stirrup
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oh it’s going to blow up

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be gentle just run valley or something

young void
topaz veldt
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Kind of wild, ordered a part for my tractor on eBay and it's shipping for 7 miles away lol

hoary hatch
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Heaven time

fringe vigil
merry stirrup
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pov navy

hoary hatch
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Green LED on the power connector

merry stirrup
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oh i thought he said it cant plug in

topaz veldt
hoary hatch
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He didn't say much

merry stirrup
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green leds on both or just that one?

shell void
wraith steeple
# topaz veldt

Welp.... I guess my prediction of Steve meeting a fate like Icarus from Greek Mythology was right on the money

pure garnet
wraith steeple
hoary hatch
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11fps but 1900MHz

topaz veldt
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Come on Steve

merry stirrup
shell void
topaz veldt
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My God dude go to bed

wraith steeple
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HEY LOUIS

hoary hatch
merry stirrup
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lol

topaz veldt
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Like bro his eyes are just going to leave his body

hoary hatch
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It is just 1 led at the power connectors

merry stirrup
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a scuffed fix is possible

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ah

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
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Louis' approval is not the flex he thinks it is

wraith steeple
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He and Steve will end up like Icarus at this rate

hoary hatch
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So first step should be trying IPA and q tip on the power pins

merry stirrup
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prolly

hoary hatch
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But I doubt that's the issue

merry stirrup
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idk a file? šŸ’€

merry stirrup
hoary hatch
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How accurate is hwinfo

merry stirrup
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obviously clock stretching mega hard

hoary hatch
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It says my peak power is 95W

merry stirrup
hoary hatch
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Can PCIe slot power exceed 75W briefly

merry stirrup
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yes but usually no especially on nvidia

turbid locust
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lol only took 1 mobo swap to make windows key freak out

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got the activate windows watermark for the first time in forever

hoary hatch
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Curious

merry stirrup
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see

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nvidia gpus hate slot power

turbid locust
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kinda excited for my cpu tmr

merry stirrup
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my gpu as well

turbid locust
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somehow only my second AM5 chip

pure garnet
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hopefully you get a good soc tile

merry stirrup
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nope he got played

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he’s gonna bezos bin

turbid locust
pure garnet
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he’s been through it i’ll hope for him this time

hoary hatch
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One 8pin is kinda working and the other just isnt

pure garnet
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if he got a 1.3v soc 6000 sample i’d laugh though

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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Like now the GN story isn't China AI GPU smuggling, it's Bloomberg

wraith steeple
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That's why I always bring up Icarus from Greek Mythology when talking about these too

merry stirrup
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it might just not be connecting bro

wraith steeple
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The Hero complex they have is exactly the same with how Icarus flew into the sun

shell void
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corpo rats

wraith steeple
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It's just..... IDK dog

topaz veldt
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They just think they're going to dethrone enterprises

hoary hatch
topaz veldt
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Also showing up to Bloomberg HQ it's like lolwut

wraith steeple
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In terms of career

turbid locust
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it's entertaining lmao

wraith steeple
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It's game-overing

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Warship moment but you get the idea

merry stirrup
slim pebble
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Or anything for that matter, the only way to talk to them would a through a court after you file an injunction

hoary hatch
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But the q-tip came out directly so I cleaned something
Idk if it's burned plastic or dust tho

edgy laurel
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@turbid locust BL4 is UE5. Fuck. Randy don’t fuck this up.

merry stirrup
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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on shit computers comparatively

merry stirrup
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yes lol

turbid locust
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YOOOO

merry stirrup
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been watching him for like forever now

turbid locust
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Same but not as much anymore

merry stirrup
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yeah

edgy laurel
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Max settings, 4K DLSS Balanced, below 60 dips

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Sounds like Stalker 2

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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pretty good

turbid locust
cloud skiff
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Quick question guys, for anyone who plays project zomboid. I got a older laptop and upgraded it to a SSD drive. Can these handle project zomboid?

Intel Core i7-5500U processor, 16GB of DDR3L RAM, a 500gb SSD, an NVIDIA GeForce 940M graphics

edgy laurel
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a 5080 shouldn’t be doing that

vestal granite
edgy laurel
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But I have no idea what the CPU is

turbid locust
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vcache plz carry pepePray

edgy laurel
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Plz

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(Remembering how Stalker 2 performed)

turbid locust
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Yeah same I literally refunded that game because of how it performed

vestal granite
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people used to recommend a 1080Ti for 4K 60FPS btw

edgy laurel
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BTW Stalker 2 is getting a major UE5 upgrade. 5.1 or 2 to 5.4.x something or other

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Going to be a major change

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Oh, moving to 5.5 actually

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Potentially huge

shell void
edgy laurel
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Refuse the jank!

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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the 1080ti used to be new btw

vestal granite
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we are stuck at 4k60

merry stirrup
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not really

fringe vigil
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hi

edgy laurel
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All depends on the point in time that it’s said

merry stirrup
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there’s 4k 144

vestal granite
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we as a society are emotionally stuck on 4k60

merry stirrup
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that’s just what people target

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notice how it’s getting to a lower tier of gpu slowly?

edgy laurel
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1080Ti could probably play 2017 games at 4K60

merry stirrup
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AKN had a 4070 for 4k gameplay

vestal granite
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now you'll need a 5080 for 4K gameplay

merry stirrup
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meanwhile now the halo cards are like 4k 120

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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but it worked with dlss balanced which is usually not that deep to average people

fringe vigil
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My C5 is gonna be amazing

vestal granite
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I just blast my display with Xray radiation so I don't notice when FSR is enabled

merry stirrup
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same

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i’m on nvidia rn shhh

shell void
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DLAA my beloved

merry stirrup
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i’m on a real cpu it draws 3x more than yours does just ram testing

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my legs are so warm rn

turbid locust
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oh yeah the power draw diff will be nice I forgot about that

merry stirrup
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it’s like basically the same in games but during stress

turbid locust
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no more randomly hitting 180W in games

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
turbid locust
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how

merry stirrup
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prolly was at like 1.35v in games cause you didn’t play with loadline enough

turbid locust
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h8r

merry stirrup
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i had to run like level 2 loadline on my asus board for my voltage to be reasonable in game

merry stirrup
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deepest apologies

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bros gonna use his utter rage and transform that 5070ti package to a pipe bomb with magic

turbid locust
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yup

slim pebble
turbid locust
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5090 at 600W feels less hot as my XTX did at 450-550W

merry stirrup
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my graphics card is in portland

turbid locust
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woooo

merry stirrup
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hurray hurray

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tomorrow yippie

turbid locust
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yippie

merry stirrup
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mayhaps a week before shunt

turbid locust
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550W 5080 SOON

merry stirrup
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perhaps real

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i have a power limit slider tho dont i

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how low it go on modern nvidia let me peep a vbios

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-17%

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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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i can just do a 67% shunt

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but if its vrel limited like michael said it wont draw that much more power

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but we'll see how it does in 3dmark

turbid locust
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it's 100% voltage limited stock

fleet marsh
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i have a 3070. looking to upgrade. idk if i should wait for the 5070 super... or. a 7800 xt for 400. or a used 5070 for 540 ? what yall think ?

merry stirrup
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but then i just get a funny black pcb

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and attach it to 3 magic points on the gpu

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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hey google 3080 to 5070ti performance increase

fleet marsh
merry stirrup
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allegedlt 45% in raster

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7800xt is probably not worth it

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7800xt=3080

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(a slightly faster 3080 but it has worse features so like 50/50)