tech-chat-2

[vagrant cargo]

very tempted to buy this https://www.etsy.com/listing/4301697780/anime-manga-style-keycaps-black-white?gpla=1&gao=1&variation0=5396990178

[frank zealot]

they also stan AMD, because reasons

[oak vector]

idk i miss when intel just did cpus without e core p core stuff.
like
I just want 6, 8. 12 or 16 cores, all of the same power and no overhead for scheduling.

but yeah, intel 3d vcache would be interesting

[pure garnet]

amd is also working on/shipping big little parts

[edgy laurel]

would take being better and cheaper in bargraphs, really all it comes down to

otherwise they keep what they have and know

talkign about the masses, not the 5 uber nerds

[pure garnet]

if novalake is good i’ll be jumping

[edgy laurel]

the uber nerds are 0.00001% and don't really matter here

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

i mean really all of diy is a meaningless figure

[oak vector]

sorry what does that mean I'm slow 💔

[merry stirrup]

e/p core

[pure garnet]

p and e core parts

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sketch-whats-up-brother-funny-twitch-gif-18084904052923259782

[merry stirrup]

intel called it big.LITTLE

[oak vector]

oh yeah
that makes sense.

amd why would you do this

[pure garnet]

it’s just the actual name for it afaik

[pure garnet]

arm chips follow it as well

[oak vector]

why cant we just keep full cores 💔

[pure garnet]

an e core is a full core

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/sketch-jynxzi-kobaine-sketch-gif-please-give-to-me-on-discord-sketch-kobaine-erm-gif-1479647463471272032

[pure garnet]

this isn’t fx

[merry stirrup]

amds ecores unless changed are stupid

just normal cores with half the cache 😭

[steel stream]

god this guy has some great GIFs

[oak vector]

sigh yes
but
cores of all the same power :c

[merry stirrup]

quote amd idk 4 years ago "our pcores are ecores"

[edgy laurel]

are they? like, the guys in the engineering meetings that developed them for enterprise applications fucked up?

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[oak vector]

if you make a core efficient and powerful then it can do anything 💔

[brisk jolt]

I feel like a bastard rn ngl after a game of valorant

[edgy laurel]

he's kinda funny in small doses

[pure garnet]

have you ran into issues with e cores or do you just hate them on premise

[frank zealot]

why do you need that

[vagrant cargo]

unbox therapy did a video on that and he didnt not what a gpu bracket was

[edgy laurel]

@vagrant cargo did you see this one

[merry stirrup]

they are a creation for sure

[vagrant cargo]

the pc has a 5090 and guess what he left hanging there with little support

[merry stirrup]

i dont think they fucked up but imo its an odd way of doing it

[edgy laurel]

oh..

[pure garnet]

isnt zen 5c like barely any smaller

[merry stirrup]

25%

[vagrant cargo]

yes , i mentioned it yesterday its a pc prebuild i would like that to be its own case though that be neat

[merry stirrup]

has half the cache shared with it over a normal core

[vagrant cargo]

i would buy it

[merry stirrup]

and is slower cause its designed for efficinecy or something

[frank zealot]

you realize that Arrow Lake e-cores are as powerful as 12th gen P-Cores, right?

[merry stirrup]

so theyre not any different than a normal core but

theyre ecores i guess

[frank zealot]

they also run on sub-10 watts full tilt

[vagrant cargo]

guys whats a good website for america and uk to get a custom pc keyboard built for me?

[pure garnet]

ordering parts and assembling it yourself

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[vagrant cargo]

or a good store front i might go on fiver to check how much people charge on there

[merry stirrup]

it is actually true they threw all the shade at intel then proceeded to copy them with C cores literally less than a year later

[vagrant cargo]

i tried to build my own pc my current one ages ago i kept making diy fuck ups including a screw falling under my mother board that happened 7 times

[frank cypress]

lmaooo I feel like they both do this shit all the time

[steel stream]

won't get better till you try

[steel stream]

Typical AMD copying Intel smh

[frank cypress]

"your cpus are glued together"

proceeds to glue cpus together

[pure garnet]

modern keyboard kits are hotswap so it’s lego basically

[merry stirrup]

real 💀

[steel stream]

nah but intel is def better or smth

[frank zealot]

not if you want LCDs under each keycap

[frank cypress]

true

[oak vector]

wow the cores match another cpus cores from 3 generations ago amazing 💔

[pure garnet]

that sounds like quite the wiring project

[merry stirrup]

yes yes

[frank cypress]

it is amazing?

[oak vector]

sorry if im an ass, its stupidly late i should go sleep.

[vagrant cargo]

i just nstumbled upon this on google https://www.rgbkb.net/

[merry stirrup]

frickin austrailian

[frank cypress]

ecores are stupidly tiny

[oak vector]

ik 💔

[frank zealot]

so you just hate for the sake of hating. Got it.

[steel stream]

yeah but you can have 4 of them in the space of one P core

[floral spear]

What does he mean by this? https://youtu.be/2JzOe1Hs26Q?si=iKve0FRD0i2ZRfia

[merry stirrup]

(and at like 15w)

[frank cypress]

like, I think on raptorlake you can fit something like 4 ecores in the space 1 pcore takes

[frank cypress]

what he said

[oak vector]

im hating because i have a lack of understanding honestly
and I just hate the world past 2 am

[frank zealot]

same for arrow lake

[pure garnet]

e cores bad because i can't have 16 full cores i can't use anyway

[frank cypress]

just start doing real pc tasks

[frank zealot]

if they changed a 285K to be all e-core? It could have 64 e-cores onboard.

[vagrant cargo]

what in the hell did i just find

https://falbatech.click/products/akuwrist-tm-handcrafted-oak-wrist-rest-with-brass-acupressure-nails

[frank cypress]

[pure garnet]

well i do make use of my e cores tbf

[vagrant cargo]

yes i want to rest my wrists on nails

[steel stream]

52 core NVL will save us

[vagrant cargo]

who the hell thought of this

[merry stirrup]

holy shit i know what im going to do for money

[pure garnet]

my 12900k was quite happy compiling things last semester

[merry stirrup]

hammer nails into boards

[frank zealot]

why not, it'll work fine

[frank cypress]

I really do want to see how it'll turn out

[merry stirrup]

so legally i have to be the first one to buy nvl right

[oak vector]

interesting, so they physically take up less space.
hmmmmmm.
whilst sipping like nothing.

how's the task scheduling work, like
does your system just know "oh yeah that's a game chuck that on the p core over there, oh that's a single chrome tab chuck that on an e core so it doesn't interfere"

[vagrant cargo]

just look at this

[steel stream]

gonna be hella interesting, more cores w new arch + new node

[vagrant cargo]

accidentally move your arm down now you got a wrist rest in your arm with nails

[frank zealot]

know what I'd love to see, because it'd be crazy cool

[oak vector]

acupuncture wrist rest goes hard

[vagrant cargo]

thats possibly the most cursed thing ive seen in awhile

[frank cypress]

something like that probably

[oak vector]

amazing

[frank cypress]

idk, i dont play games on my raptorlake cpu

[steel stream]

if you made NVL all E-Core I think it would be like 100 cores

[frank zealot]

I wanna see 64 e-cores on a single chip, but also 4 iGPU dies.

Let the arch share iGPUs separately to various VMs as needed.

[pure garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvceKhoLY8

[floral spear]

192GB of RAM
RTX 4000 x 7
AIO Cooling?
AMD 7995X

[frank cypress]

aren't there cpus with more now?

[steel stream]

e-cores yeah

[floral spear]

Idk what you need 7 RTX 4000s but have fun I guess Mr swedish man

[frank zealot]

but not 4 igpu's

[steel stream]

theres a Xeon with 144 e cores

[merry stirrup]

2 b60 duals or whatever theyre called

[pure garnet]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/240362/intel-xeon-6780e-processor-108m-cache-2-20-ghz/specifications.html

[frank cypress]

Gazillion screens

[pure garnet]

ai

[steel stream]

renders

[frank zealot]

I want 4 on the cpu itself.

[steel stream]

• ai

[floral spear]

Looks like a bomb

[frank cypress]

type shi

[steel stream]

you've been looking at shitty bombs

[merry stirrup]

w/dual seasonic primes? nah

[floral spear]

I like the open air look though

[pure garnet]

it just looks like a testbench

[frank cypress]

yeah it just doesnt look like a finished pc

[merry stirrup]

sobbing

[pure garnet]

someone will end up paying that

[floral spear]

He said he's doing it for no reason

He said at the end of the video he did it for speed and for the lolz and because "he could do it"

[merry stirrup]

24gbx2 7200 corsair kit

for hunnid

[pure garnet]

h24m floppa tune

[merry stirrup]

kinda tempting

[shell void]

WHAT

[merry stirrup]

mike we needed you

[shell void]

did someone say novalake

[floral spear]

Michael we need you to test out this new 1080hz OLED 34 inch ultra wide monitor by LG

[brisk jolt]

ew 1080p

[merry stirrup]

yes we want it

[brisk jolt]

144p or nothing

[shell void]

don’t worry guys ive got it

[floral spear]

That's not p

It's hz

[pure garnet]

michael is today a good day to purchase shares of paris new york technologies

[brisk jolt]

hertz? mb i saw wrongly

[steel stream]

if it's a display it must be tested

[brisk jolt]

nice try diddy

[merry stirrup]

almost got me

[pure garnet]

7 bands for a 5080 prebuilt

[merry stirrup]

its got an asstral tho

[pure garnet]

i need a 5090 astral

[merry stirrup]

costs 70 bands for that upgrade

[shell void]

i’ll let you know when to buy

a little insider trading never hurt anyone

[merry stirrup]

this is true

[steel stream]

as long as it benefits me I don't give a shit

[frank zealot]

hooo this is nuts:

[merry stirrup]

250$ blower 1080ti 💀

[pure garnet]

a 4.5 slab is wild

[merry stirrup]

my bad, 2080ti, same thing

[pure garnet]

at 4.5 just toss that in a dragon shield

[steel stream]

aight I think im just disregarding my 4070 trade in and giving it to my brother

[frank zealot]

holy shit, I remember when I wanted one of these:

[merry stirrup]

value went down considerably compared to when i last checked

[steel stream]

dude went from a 2060 super -> B580 -> 4070 in the span of a year, as well as getting a 1440p OLED

[steel stream]

Mine would be 350 if I were to still send it in

B580 -> 4070 is just a huge jump for 1440p so might as well let him have it

[pure garnet]

idk if my sister would even notice 2060 -> 4070 at 720p

i offered to give her my 1440p monitor and she said no

[frank zealot]

uhhh 400 bucks for what?

awww, adorable, you think these will sell?

well, the LP 730 might be useful

might

[frosty prism]

I did not know EVGA made 730s

[merry stirrup]

oh man...

[frank zealot]

that seems perfectly useful /s

[merry stirrup]

for something

[frank zealot]

that a galaxy s25 can probably run better lol

or an iphone

[frank cypress]

my 1 slot is superior

gt610 fish card my beloved

[hoary hatch]

$15 z490 board with only 1 working dimm slot 🤔

[frank zealot]

the 730 is 1 slot

[merry stirrup]

but is it a fish

[frosty prism]

mine is 2 🙁

[merry stirrup]

that implies the slots are actually broken innit

[frosty prism]

well 1 actual slot but 2 in size

[hoary hatch]

Or the user is an idiot

[merry stirrup]

how

[frank zealot]

or the pins in the socket are bent

[hoary hatch]

Have you ever met people

[merry stirrup]

this would result in entire channels being dropped

[frosty prism]

the ones in my class bend pins

[hoary hatch]

As in classic marketplace fashion
No troubleshooting info provided, just "1 ram slot works"

[merry stirrup]

💀

[frank cypress]

yes but my one is fish shaped

[merry stirrup]

true

[frank zealot]

@shell void if you want the GN Movie, you can torrent it here:

https://archive.org/details/the-nvidia-ai-gpu-black-market-investigating-smuggling-corruption-governments

[wraith steeple]

https://youtu.be/Pmljs1yaRVw?si=-jnu3NEfdg7SNAfY

[frank cypress]

and its hot pink

[hoary hatch]

Of course I'd also have to buy a LGA1200 CPU which uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why would I want that

[merry stirrup]

more fun for ram oc tho

[frank zealot]

that's trippy

[frosty prism]

i got a z590 and 11900 for 200

[hoary hatch]

There might be a z590 around

[merry stirrup]

i have one if you want lmao

that is at least mostly functional if not fully

[frosty prism]

it looks like thermalpaste in the dimm slots

[frosty prism]

also i feel like all of dis is missing

i swear there should be something there

[merry stirrup]

well yeah but its 15$

[frosty prism]

yolo

[merry stirrup]

yeah it looks fine socket wise

theres a bit of gooch in it at the obttom

but one potential pin does not mean 3 slots droppped

[hoary hatch]

That's why I think the owner is a bit daft

Or they're not telling the whole story

[frosty prism]

o yes

[hoary hatch]

But I don't have a cpu

[merry stirrup]

yeah

i have 10th at work i cant rob quite yet

[frosty prism]

HMMMMM

[frank zealot]

for a house?

[frosty prism]

tbf i think there are single gpu units that do cost dat

[edgy laurel]

🙏

[frank zealot]

if by "single unit" you mean GPU Racks

[merry stirrup]

sadly the engineering sample skus on lga 1200arent cheap yet

[frosty prism]

ok if we mean the house itself and that is one of those factory made ones than 2 years ago

anyways the video defo took too much money to make if dat true

[hoary hatch]

Their video budget was half a mil?

[frosty prism]

das is what uh a fuck it jellyseer says

[hoary hatch]

Is that English

[merry stirrup]

n

saw this in hwbot and thought it was funny

[frosty prism]

ja det er englesk men dette er ikke

[frosty prism]

i saw a MASSIVE red heatspreader on a stick at school thought it was a ddr3 stick but nope 2133"MHz"MT

and it was 4GB'

4GB ddr4 sticks makes me sad

[merry stirrup]

theres 2133 DDR3 lol

[frosty prism]

but i also saw the pins

or was it, o well i think it was

[frank zealot]

They spent tens of thousands on flights alone

[pure garnet]

8gb in 2015 was a fair amount of ram at least

[frank zealot]

And I'm sure there were some payments to informants

[frosty prism]

my computer in like 2018 that was already VERY used and was from 2012 had 16GB

[pure garnet]

that doesn't make 8gb not a perfect useable if not decent amount

[frosty prism]

tbf the further back we go the more relevant 32 bit stuff was

[pure garnet]

it’s not 32 bit so much as just computing requirements ballooned a lot in recent years

[frank cypress]

reject X is crayz

[pure garnet]

now if you’re laptop shopping you want at least 16gb

[frosty prism]

8GB is fine if its just web browsing aka why i got a surface

but after i got a laptop with 16 and a way better igpu for half the price and just better in all ways but weight

[pure garnet]

@shell void someone actually bought the strix 4060

[frosty prism]

what da fuc

[frank cypress]

bruh

[pure garnet]

i love that card so much

[vagrant cargo]

is there any new keyboards like the MOUNTAIN Everest Max

[frank cypress]

they could've gotten something way better if they spent less on the cooling solution for cpu and got a cheaper higher tier gpu

[frosty prism]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/834558873398411335

[frank cypress]

I love it cause it's dumb but nobody should buy one

[pure garnet]

7800x3d + 4060

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[frosty prism]

i also love how you can max that cpus performance on a like 10$ single tower

[frank cypress]

wait did they really

[pure garnet]

yeah

[frank cypress]

💀 💀 💀

stop the x3d glaze

[pure garnet]

the second you see a fishbowl on tiktok you know it’s a treat to scroll though

[frank cypress]

this is why we get people like this

[pure garnet]

some of the most horrendous builds possible

[topaz veldt]

eh

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-cooking-castorice-rice-cooking-hsr-castorice-cook-castorice-let-her-cook-gif-14385460857527842210

[shell void]

thankfully i watched it already

[shell void]

heresy

[topaz veldt]

I couldn't get thru the whole GN video

[frosty prism]

o sick

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-english-agent-yawn-tired-rowan-atkinson-gif-17502421

[topaz veldt]

"No it will actually be really super good this time we swear"

[frosty prism]

dam came out a while ago

pretty nice amd is at least doing stuff

[steel stream]

Just stay still and don't move the camera and look at a stationary object

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel I was wrong about Iwa Jima 2042

[shell void]

radeon team gets embarrassed by the intel arc team when it comes to upscaling and framegen

and also gets embarrassed by lossless scaling which is very sad

[brisk jolt]

No bro, just compress it into 10 seconds

like the bee movie

[frosty prism]

at least they are trying

[shell void]

i’m not giving a billion dollar company a participation trophy

if you can’t beat a $7 app developed by a couple guys with no funding that doesn’t even read motion vectors then idk what to say

[wind adder]

should you keep hardware accelerated gpu scheduling on? i got a 5070 ti

[shell void]

yes

[brisk jolt]

“But but- FSR4 is so goo-“

-Shit Implementation
-Steamrolled by Nvidia in official implementation and override
-Shat on by Intel giving out XESS 2 for some older cards
-FSR 3 looks like shi-

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[shell void]

holy based

pewdiepie built a real computer

[brisk jolt]

omg saving that to watch later

[steel stream]

it's fake frames anyways so it don't matter

[brisk jolt]

How did you possibly make FSR 3 shittier than FSR 2

like genuine question for AMD

[merry stirrup]

your turn bro

[shell void]

STOP

[steel stream]

5070 Ti -> 5090 -> Threadripper pipeline

[frosty prism]

what

[brisk jolt]

quality wise FSR2 wins

FSR3 is a fucking shimmering mess

[topaz veldt]

FSR was super ass

FSR3*

[frosty prism]

can you show me a video

[topaz veldt]

Its universally accepted

FSR3 with foliage or fences is insane

[spiral quarry]

lol if I win the lottery, this is how you'll tell I won

[steel stream]

playing games with FSR is like playing games without your -9.0 eye prescription

or is it +9.0 idk

[topaz veldt]

I think - or + 9 is bad

but its blurry yes, but also it sizzles with artifacts

[steel stream]

yeah but one would indicate near or far sightedness, I'm just getting too technical with my joke

[shell void]

negative is myopia correction which is for distance vision

positive is for fixing close vision

[steel stream]

Ah so +9.0

[shell void]

i am -1.50

[steel stream]

I am like -.75

[spiral quarry]

Oh yea so I figured out the issue with my schiit magni amp. Potentiometer gotta be replaced soon or I buy a whole new amp.

[merry stirrup]

nuhuh uhh

[steel stream]

just get rid of it

Shit

[shell void]

unfortunately it sucks for games

[topaz veldt]

I am -4.75

[merry stirrup]

you play wizard 101

[shell void]

it’s too much of a downgrade in gaming performance

[merry stirrup]

they hit like 5.3 "single" core

[shell void]

9800x3d is already barely good enough for cyberpunk with population density on high man

[frank zealot]

I gotta say the LTT Murderbox turned out pretty great

[shell void]

yeah it’s 5400 on ccd0 and 5000 on ccd1-3

before +200

[merry stirrup]

so 5.6 theoretical

[spiral quarry]

Gotta make it last a tad longer but otherwise if I power cycle it the channel imbalance issue fixes itself. But by then I would already be moving to different headphones so new amp lol.

[merry stirrup]

whats wrong with that bro

[frosty prism]

well 3.1 is better in a few things but worse in others than 2.2 in others but yeeeaa amd aint doing great

[merry stirrup]

and a better memory controller???

[shell void]

have you looked at gaming testing

sometimes it’s fine but it’s often awful

[merry stirrup]

4th gen performance is how god intended

[shell void]

i think you could fix it by full tuning 8000mt/s memory and forcing process affinity

but that’s effort when 9800x3d just works

[merry stirrup]

1 x3d sku later

[frosty prism]

i wonder if i could manage 8000MT on my chip

[merry stirrup]

probably

[steel stream]

till Asrock mobo and kaboom

[shell void]

unfortunately all the reviewers tested it with 6400 gear 2 expo memory and auto affinity so it performed pretty badly

[merry stirrup]

harder on the board and such

since u have b650 iirc prolly wont be doable

[frosty prism]

well

i was young when i made it, x670e

[merry stirrup]

not because of the chipset, but most b650 boards cant do 8k lol

[topaz veldt]

285K in BF2042 💪

[merry stirrup]

depending on which, could be fine but still prolly not

[steel stream]

putting it to WORK

[frosty prism]

its not a major jump in performance anyways

[merry stirrup]

not over 6400

do you have shit kit or not i dont remember what binzo

[wise drift]

how is intel doing for you? i've wondered about switching to intel

[frosty prism]

no i got that nice kit

[shell void]

no update on w890 since february i cry every time

[topaz veldt]

it works well, very similar to 9950X

[frosty prism]

should set fclk to 2133

[wise drift]

have intel promised socket longevity?

[merry stirrup]

scls are a little wack

[topaz veldt]

no

[wise drift]

guess we're sticking to AMD then 🙁

[merry stirrup]

WE?!

[wise drift]

yes we

[merry stirrup]

aw hell naw jigsaw

[frosty prism]

scls

[merry stirrup]

set to 8/8, forget

[wise drift]

socket longevity is a must have

[merry stirrup]

bro i keep a cpu and motherboard for 6 months if im lucky

idgaf

[wise drift]

well some of us aren't rich'

[merry stirrup]

im not i just enjoy hardware

its not that difficult to buy 700$ worth of things when you have at least half a year in between the purchases

[wise drift]

I prefer having a pc that works at all times due to work 😭 but I would really like having an intel cpu. 700 dollars is a lot

[merry stirrup]

i mean i kept my 11700k for i think 2 years and thats the longest ive kept any piece of hardware

700$ is a lot but over 6 months its less so

[merry stirrup]

tras at 84 is fine it can stay

[wise drift]

700 dollars is almost a months salary for me currently, aka. a lot

[merry stirrup]

is it 6 months salary? 😭

[wise drift]

I could use that money for so many other things though 😭 saving for a car is what I am going for

[merry stirrup]

and thats totally fine 😭

[wise drift]

I miss when intel was superior

[merry stirrup]

im not telling you to buy hardware every 6 months i just dont care about socket longevity

[frank zealot]

Adam Savage geeking out over a laptop hinge:

[merry stirrup]

it all comes down to the workload now

workload and type of user

[wise drift]

I use intel at work and it's epic

[frosty prism]

welp time to restart

and change some timings

good thing i have a clear cmos button on the back

[merry stirrup]

ive used intel for basically ever at this point (dalied a single am5 cpu for 2 months)

and i must say i enjoy it more than anything amd ive used

but i also have an extremly odd and pretty uncommon set of requirements out of a computer

[shell void]

oh you have 48GB M-die sticks idk if what i suggested to you will be stable

[merry stirrup]

theres not many people who care about how well designed their memory controller is and how capable it is

[shell void]

you can try tho ig

[merry stirrup]

what you said should work

[frosty prism]

yolo

i should save what i have now tho

[wise drift]

I use an e14 with ultra 125u for work, it works really well, for me both work really well, but people hating on intel made me a bit nervous so I didn't go intel

[merry stirrup]

i usually set tRC to whatever tras is in the XMP profile

[merry stirrup]

go with what you want tbh at the end of the day the most different theyll be is like 20%

my 7900x3d was terrible but when it worked properly it was totally fine

it just didnt work often...

[frosty prism]

i still cant believe you went dual ccd

[merry stirrup]

wanted more than 8c

[frosty prism]

soon

[merry stirrup]

shoulda just bought a 7950x i probably wouldve liked it more

maybe i wouldve kept it

[shell void]

7950x3d for $464 was goated

[merry stirrup]

tru

i have to get rid of my edge at some point soon

if anyone for some reason wants it

[frosty prism]

touchscreen on a laptop is life

[frank zealot]

the 7900x3d when it was 300 was also pretty baller

[frosty prism]

Was dis right

[shell void]

that looks correct to me

[frosty prism]

yolo

[shell void]

if it doesn’t post then it’s probably because of trc48 and twr48

almost guaranteed

more likely trc out of those two

[frosty prism]

its on and booting windows

and yes i have occt

[shell void]

download y cruncher

[edgy laurel]

sim what have you done

[shell void]

occt memory test is nice for quickly testing if you’re using enough VSOC, but i wouldn’t use it to validate memory timings

[frosty prism]

i should also do fclk to 2133

[steel stream]

ram-chat-2 has returned

[edgy laurel]

😭

[frosty prism]

lets hope 0 is it

[merry stirrup]

WHY cry

[merry stirrup]

all

[frosty prism]

so 1

[merry stirrup]

yea

[shell void]

yes all core and then VT3 test

[shell void]

oh you’re doing the benchmark instead of the stress test

[frosty prism]

whoopse

aaaa 2

[shell void]

i would hold off on doing this until you’re ready to sleep tbh

[merry stirrup]

2,8,18,0

[shell void]

because you should be running y cruncher vt3 stress test for 8+ hours

[merry stirrup]

tesla m40 modified with an og gainward phantom cooler

[frosty prism]

me puter is right next to sleepy place

welp if i can game stable i will call it stable

[shell void]

☠️

[frosty prism]

just gonna do what i did last year with my 6400MT kit at 1:1

just do not worry about it for a year

[topaz veldt]

game stable != stable stable

[pure garnet]

why is my kernel corrupted a week later type testing

[frosty prism]

might aswell just do OCCT for 1hr and clean or something

[shell void]

game stable until your pc locks up mid game and then can’t recover windows after rebooting

[topaz veldt]

1 hr aint shit

[frosty prism]

well would it not lock up anyways

[pure garnet]

you should use more than just vt3 as well

[topaz veldt]

I had 9000 running over night Karhu stable for 3 hours and then bloorp

[pure garnet]

i need to pick up karhu

[shell void]

my standard is 12 hours of stress test with gpu loaded too

12 hours of furmark + ycruncher or karhu

[topaz veldt]

I don't care about GPU load in parallel

[shell void]

if your gpu is watercooled then you don’t need to

[topaz veldt]

but at least a true mem and cpu test in parallel

[pure garnet]

i'm like 14h vt3, tm5 extreme, and 5h of p95 large

[shell void]

but if you have an air cooled gpu then you need to load the gpu too

because your memory will be heat dumped by the gpu in games

[topaz veldt]

or just have good design/ram fan

my 285k/5090 is air cooled gpu no prawbs

[frosty prism]

yeeaa

[topaz veldt]

for the most part people are not on the ragged edge of DDR5 temps, they are combatting their mobo/IMC

[shell void]

i just go off of my own personal experience

[topaz veldt]

yeah that's fine

for most purposes if you can Karhu for 20 hours its going to work

[shell void]

i ran karhu for 14 hours and y cruncher for 9 hours and then crashed mid game, so i loaded up stress tests again but with gpu heat and they failed

now i use gpu heat every time

[topaz veldt]

I would just run the same exact thing and do better fannage

[frosty prism]

how big is your power bill

[topaz veldt]

Also crashing mid game can be a game 🙂 BF2042 crashed over lunch on 6400 M/Ts 285K stock lol

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream how we judging this ratio of pb, banana and what looks like blackberry preserve

[shell void]

pcs aren’t shit when it comes to power bill bro

window air conditioners are way worse

[merry stirrup]

too much peanubuttter

[topaz veldt]

yeah for ordinary peeps

[merry stirrup]

not a huge fan of it

[topaz veldt]

i think my mini split only pulls like 240w in "normal" and like 400-500W when its trying to do shit

[merry stirrup]

i like a smacking pbj but

[shell void]

we have five window units and those running contributes a lot more than my pc xd

[edgy laurel]

it looks toasted, too. I haven't had that yet. I wanna try

[shell void]

they’re all dumb units they don’t have smart inverting

[topaz veldt]

definitely yeah 5 window units is more, but central air too

yeah i have inverters, it helps somewhat

what kills me is 1300W in my basement constant load

[frosty prism]

i just imagine your house in the winter

[topaz veldt]

I have free heated floors in my kithen

[devout ridge]

wasn't this a grow house?

[frosty prism]

Welp it was not stable

[topaz veldt]

heh

[frosty prism]

Sooo what should I change

[iron bluff]

Hi, I use the 990 Pro 2TB on Windows 11 24H2 and a week ago I install this security update called KB5063878 that's apparently causes SSD corruption and failure but my model isn't on the list of affected models as I checked, at least for now it seems so. What should I do? Should I uninstall the update? It's supposed to improve security or something

[topaz veldt]

unaffected

[frosty prism]

Just download the latest version

[iron bluff]

latest version of what?

[frosty prism]

Windows

Well update

[frank zealot]

if your drive isn't affected, you're in the clear

[frosty prism]

With issues like these they tend to be suspended and fixed quick

Also you have dram

[iron bluff]

but what if it will be affected and these lists aren't final or something?

[edgy laurel]

I don't think there is any concrete information on what drives are or aren't affected.

[iron bluff]

there are list on the internet but I don't know whether they are concerete or not

[frosty prism]

They only saw any issues on dramless phison I think it was

[edgy laurel]

exactly

[hoary hatch]

I expect the travel budget (hotels, rental/transit, flight) to be in the $50k range

[topaz veldt]

theres no fix yet

[frosty prism]

If you have no issues you have no issues

[pure garnet]

just uninstall the update if you're worried about it

[hoary hatch]

I guess if they've been working on it for what, 6 months?

[topaz veldt]

its also not definitively a specific SSD controller, but 990 Pro doesn't have the one that they think is related

[iron bluff]

well I don't wanna start having them...

[hoary hatch]

I wonder what the opportunity cost of that project was

[frank zealot]

so can anyone verify for me:

is https://www.amctheaters.com borked borked

[frosty prism]

Download the latest update on windows

[hoary hatch]

The company is pretty shit

[edgy laurel]

uninstall the update, or don't. I'm not because yolo

[pure garnet]

loads fine for me

[devout ridge]

did they fix the SSD issue

[frosty prism]

Ofc

[edgy laurel]

(also it failed to uninstall but we don't worry about such details)

[frank zealot]

hmmmmmm

[iron bluff]

will I miss out on some important security patches if I uninstall?

[frosty prism]

Or at least it gets removed

[frosty prism]

No

[hoary hatch]

re

[frank zealot]

you do not need to uninstall

[hoary hatch]

You silly American

[young void]

Reee

[hoary hatch]

Theatre

[edgy laurel]

you'll temporarily miss out on this until MS issues a fix https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/august-12-2025-kb5063878-os-build-26100-4946-e4b87262-75c8-4fef-9df7-4a18099ee294

Whats in there and if any of it matters for the time being, couldn't tell you

[young void]

Can't provide secure connection also*

[iron bluff]

So should I keep it as is? Uninstall? Pause updates for a week?

[edgy laurel]

pause updates? no.. if they release a fix you want it

[pure garnet]

i'd just leave it alone

[edgy laurel]

you leave it or you uninstall

up to you

[iron bluff]

I store my data on a different partition too so it means less risk probably

[frank zealot]

no

[edgy laurel]

partition on the SSD you're worried about?

[frank zealot]

Partitions wouldn't matter, they're on the same drive

[frosty prism]

Same nand even

[edgy laurel]

the "issue", if it even is a problem for you, effects the whole drive

[hoary hatch]

https://www.amctheatres.com/

[frank zealot]

but if your drive doesn't use the Phison controller that's affected, you won't be affected.

[steel stream]

I'd fuck that up, but I think I would like more peanut butter

[steel stream]

just a little more

[hoary hatch]

It's theatreeeeeeees not theaters

[edgy laurel]

see @merry stirrup wants less. I think its just right

[iron bluff]

I guess I'm gonna leave it as is and maybe make a backup of important stuff just in case

[frosty prism]

Always have an active backup process

[steel stream]

huge peanut butter guy so, it looks really good already but I might try and get a little more

[devout ridge]

theater is the room/building, theatre is the artform

[edgy laurel]

the fact that its toasted and the PB is a little melty looks good

messy, but good

[hoary hatch]

I'm assuming tkitchs url was typo'd unless amctheaters.com is supposed to be an actual (different?) website also I'd think they would have both domains and redirect the other one

[frank zealot]

huh, TERS was auto-completed in my browser... interesting

[hoary hatch]

A little surprised they don't have both and redirect the typo to the actual site

However my local theater chain growing up also spelled theatres as such

[iron bluff]

also on an unrelated issue, I am having a weird problem in a specific game - Ghost of Tsushima and after like 40 minutes of playing my FPS drops from 110-120 FPS to like 30-60 FPS and doesn't go all the way back, it can temporarily go back to 80 but then it drops again... I even reinstall Windows and it didn't help. I use the R7 7800X3D and the RTX 4070 SUPER and I play DLSS frame-gen on. I had this build for more than 1.5 years now and this problem started a few months ago as I remember, I abandoned the game for a while so I wouldn't really know exactly when it started, also in the past I had shorter play sessions

[steel stream]

yeah for sure

[hoary hatch]

I cannot recall if they've always used just harkins for the url or if they dropped the theatres from the url over time

[pure garnet]

sounds like you're running out of vram honestly

[frank zealot]

that would make the most sense

[steel stream]

what resolution

[iron bluff]

1440p

[steel stream]

4070 super is 12gb right

[iron bluff]

yes

but I don't think it's a vram problem though

[steel stream]

might be

[iron bluff]

the game runs fine for like 40 minutes

[steel stream]

I ran out of VRAM a couple of times 1440p

[edgy laurel]

data, data will tell all

[steel stream]

on my 4070

[edgy laurel]

which graph drops off, there is your problem

[steel stream]

Especially if you are using frame gen + high settings

[iron bluff]

I am

[edgy laurel]

at the point where performance changes, a main stat's graph will also change.

be it a temperature, a clockspeed, etc..

[hoary hatch]

Especially for a company of that size

[iron bluff]

but I saw that people who have vram problems like have this message about not having sufficient memory and the game doesn't work ata ll

[pure garnet]

if the game runs out of vram it swaps into real ram which hurts perf

[edgy laurel]

no point in guessing, start watching the numbers

[steel stream]

could be an issue potentially

[pure garnet]

which sounds identical and you can just play with rtss to see it go over

[iron bluff]

so what should I do exactly?

[pure garnet]

play the game with monitoring software

and look at see what goes wrong/down when you drop perf

[iron bluff]

and monitor vram usage?

[edgy laurel]

everything

[iron bluff]

so like enable everything in afterburner?

[edgy laurel]

data collection. what changes over the course of gameplay

pertinent things

temps, clockspeeds, usages, amounts

[iron bluff]

and why does this happen into 40 minutes of gameplay?

[edgy laurel]

thats what the data will tell you, or us if you can't decipher it.

This is where OSD's are useful, also being "aware" of what your systems temps, clockspeeds and usages for both the CPU and GPU are in "normal" operation. Then you can identify quickly when they aren't

[iron bluff]

so how do I get this data?

[frank zealot]

because a packet hit a pocket on a socket on a port
And the buss is interrupted as a very last resort
And the address of your memory caused a socket to abort
Then your socket packet pocket, caused an error to report

[edgy laurel]

Steam overlay, Afterburner+RTSS overlay, Nvidia overlay

[frank zealot]

HWInfo

[edgy laurel]

hwinfo is good if you have another monitor to keep track of it, but the sensors page can be a little overwhelming

[iron bluff]

and the most interesting thing is that it doesn't happen in other games I play, current I also play God of War 2018 and it doesn't have that issue

and it's also 1440p maxed out with DLSS frame-gen on

[topaz veldt]

The checksum cannot match,
All the data's lost.```

[frank zealot]

different games use different resources so the results will be very different

[iron bluff]

so I do statistics logging in NVIDIA overlay?

[topaz veldt]

imho i'd use hwinfo64 it gives a nice clean csv output

[iron bluff]

installer or portable?

[topaz veldt]

installer

its a tool you should have

[iron bluff]

it has all these options

[frank zealot]

sourceforge or local

[iron bluff]

do I have to have something preinstalled to install the SourceForge version?

[lean cradle]

is this good enough for a modded minecraft server with max 10 people at any given time

for hosting that is

[edgy laurel]

clicking local is far easier

[iron bluff]

okay thx

[cyan canopy]

It would probably work.

[edgy laurel]

to those who know the meme of the clueless dream build and how you can always tell because of the Threadripper 3990x...

these kids just select the most expensive thing on PCPP each each category, clueless to the fact that its a 6 year old CPU

[topaz veldt]

wow 12 mins ago post with a 3990X

[edgy laurel]

i've seen this same build many times. people think they're being funny but that stupid 3990x always gives it away

that was the last gen carried on PCPP

and its still pulling the listing for some third party reseller

[topaz veldt]

well and the $1200 kit of 64GB DDR4

But yeah we have these dudes pop in here or TC1 from time to time

"I am building the most best PC no budget...."

16TB SSDs over and over

@edgy laurel I had a contractor I ended up not renewing and dude was in to PCs, he talked a lot of talk, we would bullshit back and forth he finally sent me a build.gg link and it was one of the weirdest setups I had ever seen

[edgy laurel]

post it for shaming

[vestal granite]

im makin shepherds pie

any shepherds pie enjoyers

love me a shepherds pie

[topaz veldt]

I have to find it - it was a cryptic username

[hoary hatch]

Yes

[hoary hatch]

How many Shepherds did you slaughter for it

[vestal granite]

no shepherds only sheps

[hoary hatch]

🐏

[vestal granite]

only lamb no beef, beef is cottage pie not shepherds pie cause shepherds is sheeps not cows

[topaz veldt]

we have a running joke with one of my ireland dudes, he hit a sheep

[vestal granite]

that's like hitting a person there

that's messed up sheep are nice they're chill and they make clothing and it's not even like bad for them like they're cool about the arrangement

people who don't make their mashed potatoes by hand are missing out I used to be a instsnt mashed potatoes enthusiast until I made them by hand and now I'm like whaaaaaat

cause usually I grow green onions and herbs n stuff in a window and so I make a lot of mashed potatoes

[topaz veldt]

well we now call him Slayer

[vestal granite]

oh like christian rituals to slaughter sheep for god

at the tabernacle

[topaz veldt]

like something like that

[green marsh]

when half of your RAM slots on the old X99 board is dead

[next sun]

https://de.thermaltake.com/toughpower-gt-750w-atx31.html

how is this psu?

[fervent scaffold]

Are wireless keyboards worth it? I can only see it getting annoying to have to charge it. I can see the point of a wireless mouse but the keyboard is weird to me

I guess if I was sitting across the room I can see the point, but not if im not leaving my desk

[final glacier]

influx of new dead cpus again on asrock boards

[topaz veldt]

Yeesh

GN should make a 4 hr video on it

[green marsh]

well, ASRock is going to have fun refunding all the dead CPUs

[topaz veldt]

That first one is a B650

[green marsh]

ROFL these prices

[topaz veldt]

welcome to the niche 2nd hand market

[hoary hatch]

Maybe they're all missing a decimal...

[topaz veldt]

one of the dudes I resell to recently asked if I had any DDR2 or X5670 or whatever CPUs

[green marsh]

aren't those sold on aliexpress for cents ?

[hoary hatch]

But yeah, this is why I ended up buying myself arrow lake and gifting my GF 12700k instead of upgrading her 8400

All "upgrades" on z390 platform didn't make financial sense

[green marsh]

yeah, Q6600 is selling for whopping 3.4 euros 😄

[topaz veldt]

Imagine you're not allowed to buy from china

[lean cradle]

is this a bad cpuu to host a minecraft server on

[topaz veldt]

more than enough

[civic reef]

It's great

[hoary hatch]

Please buy that for $170 new in 2025 plz plz plz

[green marsh]

ebay then

[lean cradle]

i foundu thihs for 500

[topaz veldt]

Yes, where the DIMMs are going for like $42/ea lol

[civic reef]

You can get a decent X99, Xeon, and RAM for like sub 100

[green marsh]

i scored a supercheap system with 9900K, Z390 ITX board and 32GB DDR4-3000. Gifted it to brother, cause i had no use 😄

[civic reef]

Specs?

[topaz veldt]

There are businesses out there who are, for contractual reasons, still having to support DDR2 shit

[lean cradle]

i might be able to get a 7800 x3d

[topaz veldt]

So working/tested 32GB DDR2 FBs is like gold

[civic reef]

.. For a server?

[lean cradle]

yeah

[green marsh]

i meant the CPU, not the RAM

[civic reef]

Sarcasm needs to be more subtle y'know

[lean cradle]

no im jjust stupid

[topaz veldt]

Oh yeah, those are dirt

[green marsh]

i am still glad i got the 2x32GB DDR4 SODIMM + 2x16GB DDR4 SODIMM + 1x8GB DDR4 SODIMM for 160 euros 😄

[topaz veldt]

I don't f with sodimms

[devout ridge]

xeon is less than ideal, consumer chips are actually preferable for mc servers

[green marsh]

finally i will max out one of the mac minis and will half max out the other one

[lean cradle]

i need a second pc but im tryna build one ini pc part picjker with some thjing

[green marsh]

mac mini only does sodimm

[civic reef]

I meant, as a basic server based solution

[green marsh]

and the last 8GB stick is to upgrade dad's AIO

[topaz veldt]

i just buy big mac mini lol

[civic reef]

I've seen those kits for like 50-60 dollars

[green marsh]

with 6700T was cheaper than it is

[civic reef]

Ofcourse something with an 8th gen or higher i5 would work, or some Ryzen 2-3000

[green marsh]

this is a mini from 2018. Just reusing it as a kubernetes learning platform

[topaz veldt]

with its mighty 2 cores 🙁

I gave a 2020 or so MBP i7 to a coworker for his kids to play on

[fringe vigil]

mr

[topaz veldt]

meeseeks

[fringe vigil]

should i call you mista

[civic reef]

Mista white

[lean cradle]

ok hows thihs sound guys

AMD Ryzen 7800X3D CPU with 360mm AIO Liquid Cooling, Radeon RX 9060XT 16GB GPU, 32 GB 6000 MTs (MHz) Cl30 RAM, MSI 1TB PCIe 5.0 SSD, Gigabyte B650 Motherboard with built-in Wifi, Rosewill 850 Gold rated Power supply

Minus the GPU, for 965 USD

[green marsh]

i am waiting for my 2019 16" MBP (with 9750H/16GB RAM/512GB SSD) to lose current OS support in April 2027, then it is either Windows 11 (unsupported cause no TPM) or Kubuntu on it

[civic reef]

Also who's the Mr,,,, I don't see anyone with a Mr in their user

[fringe vigil]

❓

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gobble-gif-1825124555203003299

[topaz veldt]

too slow

[fringe vigil]

frig off lahey

[devout ridge]

what is that file name

[green marsh]

GN

[topaz veldt]

the-nvidia-ai-gpu-black-market-investigating-smuggling-corruption-governments.mp4

If you thought GN Steves videos were long... look at the filenames!

[green marsh]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1P5Yxz1Edn/ if you want to watch it

[wraith steeple]

God even his fucking names are yap fests

[topaz veldt]

yup lol

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

told mister macintosh that ill pay the diff for fast shipping

[topaz veldt]

bro give him my ups account

i'll schedule a pickup next day air

[merry stirrup]

well its your UPS account

smh

[topaz veldt]

yeah bill to account

[merry stirrup]

wonder if work could print a label actually

[topaz veldt]

you have it

[merry stirrup]

well, create a label

[topaz veldt]

123 Mac Street to 978 Floppa Ave

[merry stirrup]

i reckon we get cheaper shipping rates than a normal person

[topaz veldt]

honestly pirateship/paypal rates are lower than my commercial account at work

only difference is 3rd party insurance vs. UPS

[merry stirrup]

true but insurance is sketch and on a 700$ video card a little worrying

[fringe vigil]

mr seesees

[topaz veldt]

what do you mena

[merry stirrup]

rahter the UPS insurance, although i think theres a like value cap on theirs

[topaz veldt]

there's not

its like $50k

they'll go higher if they box it

[merry stirrup]

ah okay

i thought it was 500 i just took away 2 zeros

[topaz veldt]

The problem is that unless you go to "ups.com" and buy the label and then schedule a pickup, you're dealing with a UPS Store which is not UPS, and not UPS insurance

[merry stirrup]

interesting

[pure garnet]

i think in total like $70 was spent shipping me my 5070ti never pay retail rates

[topaz veldt]

UPS Store gouges and also use 3rd party insurance

Usually when I do a big sale I will buy directly from UPS.com and schedule a pickup thru pirateship

The only sketchy part is that you have no tracking until the truck gets to the hub

[pure garnet]

would you not get tracking if you dropped it off at a ups store

[topaz veldt]

But on the other hand if you buy the label from UPS.com and drop off at UPS Store and it gets lost they both argue they never had possession

[pure garnet]

oh fun

[topaz veldt]

Not always - in fact, I had a $4200 package not get a single scan until it was delivered... across the country

[merry stirrup]

yeah ive had that happen lol

[topaz veldt]

Yah imagine it was $4200 🙁

[merry stirrup]

not 4200$ worth but like, an SSD or something

[edgy laurel]

Flappy buys 5090, you buy TR9000. Ezpz

[topaz veldt]

My buyer was very cooperative but we were both irritated

[merry stirrup]

i could maybe get behind this

[wraith steeple]

[green marsh]

i am glad delivery services have nothing like this in my country; on other side international shipping is stupidly expensive.

I mean DPD and Packeta both allow you to send packages inside country for like 3-4 euros if you deliver the package to their box delivery system or partner.

[topaz veldt]

Don't shame them wtf

[edgy laurel]

Nice try

[merry stirrup]

thats wild, how fast is it?

[green marsh]

i mean not sure what is the english name for these

[topaz veldt]

We have wildly cheap alternatives but w/o insurance and all

[merry stirrup]

idk just a big mailbox ig

[green marsh]

DPD overnight, Packeta 2-3 days usually

[merry stirrup]

locked mailbox? lol

[green marsh]

insurance is usually to 1k-2k euros

[green marsh]

well technically it is not. It can be used for both sending and delivery, and you have 2-3 days to pick up a package from it using a code or app

[topaz veldt]

I ordered a supercharger from Budapest, wired the money thru some sketch af site, bro took it to Fedex, about 45 lbs and huge package... it was at my doorstep in PA, USA in like 18 hours

[merry stirrup]

ours are similar, you can send out packages from those im sure, im sure fancier ones are code locked

[shell void]

i need 5090 for cyberpunk still

[merry stirrup]

bno no no i just buy A 5090

not particularly yours

[shell void]

o

[topaz veldt]

amazon locker is cool

I use amazon locker for my vacation houses and you just walk up and scan your phone and a door opens

[green marsh]

i mean these "boxes" are literally everywhere in cities, i got like 5 or 6 them withing a 1km distance. smaller settlements usually have just one or they got a partner instead

[merry stirrup]

DAMN

yea we dont see locked mailboxes like that unless at an apt complex or similar

not the standard

[topaz veldt]

or a post office

[green marsh]

packeta you press a button inside the app, and the door opens. Everyone else has a 6 digit code you enter and it opens

[merry stirrup]

yea true

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats how amazon locker works here

[merry stirrup]

we just have a mailbox that locks

[topaz veldt]

I just have a front door

and a shotgun

[merry stirrup]

i cant shotgun things i cant see 😔

[topaz veldt]

you need AI

[merry stirrup]

IRL DMA hacks

[topaz veldt]

5090 shotgun mod

[valid anvil]

who here has a nas, i need an opinion.
i have a nas with 7 HDD, 6 3tb hdd and 1 500gb hdd (the 500gb is going to be a temporary recycle bin drive dw about it), what raid configuration should i do with the 6 x 3tb hdds?

[merry stirrup]

man 3tb hdds

[topaz veldt]

3TBs are notoriously faily

[merry stirrup]

arent those l;ike the worst offender of unreliable

[topaz veldt]

I'd do RAID6 or raidz2

[merry stirrup]

confirmed lol

[valid anvil]

they came with the NAS

[topaz veldt]

are they WD Reds

[valid anvil]

whats raid 2?

[merry stirrup]

Z2

[topaz veldt]

raidz2 is a zfs thing, similar to RAID6

[valid anvil]

seagate barracuda

[topaz veldt]

RAID6/raidz2

[valid anvil]

let me see if the nas supports raidz2

[topaz veldt]

it won't

what brand is the nas

[valid anvil]

Thecus N7700PRO

[merry stirrup]

this is an alternate OS typa thing

[valid anvil]

it supports RAID 0, 1, 5,6,10,JBOD

[valid anvil]

i see

i was hoping to do something like raid 1 on all drives (excluding the 500gb)

[topaz veldt]

It supports RAID6, do that

[valid anvil]

ok

[topaz veldt]

that would be a "RAID10" and you'd have 1/2 the usable space for no real benefit

in some ways RAID10 can be less reliable than RAID6

RAID6 you can lose any 2 disks and still read data, with RAID10 you can lose only the right 2 disks

[valid anvil]

didnt say raid 10

[topaz veldt]

RAID1 on each drive is RAID10

[valid anvil]

i see

[topaz veldt]

RAID10 is striped RAID1s

aka "mirrors"

[valid anvil]

ahhh i see

[topaz veldt]

in a 6 disk RAID10 you could lose 3 disks, but so long as their partner mirror isn't one that fails

but if you lose the wrong 2 disks in a RAID10, you're done-zo

[valid anvil]

you mean 3 disks?

theres 6 drives

[merry stirrup]

no, if you lose a drive and its partner that segment is gone

[topaz veldt]

in RAID10 you will lose data after the 2nd disk failure if its in a mirror, in RAID6 you will lose data after the 3rd disk fails

[valid anvil]

i see

[vestal granite]

if u have a photograph on disk 1 and its mirror is disk 2 then u lose disk 2 and disk 1 then u dont have photograph anymore

[topaz veldt]

RAID6 has a write penalty in that it has double-parity but this is a 6 drive NAS its not going to blaze anyway

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/fiberglass-chopper-one-piece-tony-tony-chopper-gif-26949907

[vestal granite]

what is this fiberglass reference you keep talking about

[topaz veldt]

lol

you're in FL right

[vestal granite]

yes

hopefully not for much longer

[valid anvil]

ahhh i see now

[valid anvil]

should i do any hotspare drives or no?

[vestal granite]

oh well that was not a nice thing to say to me then how dare you and also i dont go on boats im scared of the ocean

[topaz veldt]

no

[valid anvil]

should i use all 7 drive bays for raid 6, or should i do something special for the 7th drive bay?

[topaz veldt]

you can't mix drive sizes

[valid anvil]

like if i accidentally delete something and it gets sent there.

[topaz veldt]

you'd do 6 drives in RAID6 and then a RAID0 of the 500GB

[valid anvil]

yeah i know, i have an extra 4tb hdd i can put in

[topaz veldt]

or single disk, whatever that NAS does

ok well no matter what you do you can't mix disk sizes in the same virtual device

so that 7th drive will be solo

[valid anvil]

so they all have to be 3tb?

[topaz veldt]

yes or larger, but you'd only get to use 3TB of it

[valid anvil]

yeah, im aware about it using the smaller size

[topaz veldt]

very confusing, but ok

[valid anvil]

i was just asking if i should use the 7th drive for if i accidentally delete something, i can use it as a recycle bin that deletes every month in case i delete something important on accident

[topaz veldt]

thats your call

you can also prob enable a recycle bin on the main pool, whichever

[valid anvil]

it came with 6 3tb hdd, and 1 500 gb hdd, idk why

[valid anvil]

wdym?

[topaz veldt]

most NAS support having a "recycle bin" on the actual shares/etc.

[valid anvil]

i see

[topaz veldt]

if you have a separate recycle disk, it has to move the file

[valid anvil]

oh, i see. then ill just do that and make the drive all 3tb (in volume size)

[topaz veldt]

yea

[valid anvil]

thanks for the advice

[topaz veldt]

np

[valid anvil]

im good if i make the NAS wireless right? cuz i cant make it wired for various reasons

[topaz veldt]

maybe? not the fastest or reliable connection but maybe ok

[merry stirrup]

i reckon okay if you have good wifi

[valid anvil]

ok, cuz router is located in parent's closet

[merry stirrup]

cant make it wired is an interesting one tho, id talk to your mom to see if you can just leave a computer plugged in to the internet in their closet lol

[valid anvil]

so no then

[merry stirrup]

wifi in this use of the word does not mean connection to the outside world

[valid anvil]

im aware

my router can be shit sometimes

[merry stirrup]

i probably wouldnt trust it to nas great

itll probably work but yknow exceptions or whatever

[valid anvil]

i dont plan on having the NAS running 24/7

[merry stirrup]

why not?

grand scheme of power bills, a nas is nothing

even if your power is like 20 cents a kwh

[valid anvil]

its probably only going to be used a couple times a month

i dont even know where im going to put it tbh

[merry stirrup]

well i mean since its on wifi it can go anywhere

ive seen nas/servers/computers tucked behind couches w/nothing but a power cable (and ethernet) plebnty of times

not like tucked, but a couch kitty cornered yk

[pure garnet]

i keep my think center self hosting everything just on top of my dresser headless

[merry stirrup]

my t5810 is just under my tv lol

[valid anvil]

i was thinking of keeping it in the garage somewhere hidden, the issue is my mom doesnt care about technology and might clean it with a wet wipe or something

or move it

so thats why i dont want it running all the time

[merry stirrup]

piece of painters tape and a marker warning idk

that one is a pickle but

[valid anvil]

did something similar to that once, didnt work

[merry stirrup]

garage is definitely fine

[valid anvil]

ok

yeah, she a laptop once, thankfully it wasnt one that was actively being used or needed

[merry stirrup]

oof

[frank zealot]

is it not in a case?

[valid anvil]

wdym?

[frank zealot]

is the nas in a case

like a computer case

[valid anvil]

yes, the nas is in a massive case

[frank zealot]

then a wet wiipe won't do anything to it

unless she like, hoses it down with liquid cleaner

[fringe vigil]

YO

[shell void]

hello jorj

[valid anvil]

this is what it looks like^

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-dance-black-dance-get-it-gif-14992825767124506528

[frank zealot]

a wet wipe won't hurt that, unless she like soaks the whole thing in an absurd amount of cleaner

the only thing on a laptop a cleaner might hurt is the screen coating

[valid anvil]

i see

[cerulean cosmos]

Huh https://youtube.com/shorts/6_50iVPuK-A?si=K2aG-e8GfzfiSfN0

[valid anvil]

and the moving it around to clean under it?

[merry stirrup]

@iron relic got another one

i find it funny how many times the signal clips get posted

[cerulean cosmos]

Lol

[valid quail]

guys is 5950X better than 7500F?

[iron relic]

thats our april fools clip that is an actual tip

[valid anvil]

depends on how you define better

[cerulean cosmos]

Yea I know I posted it to troll

Hehe

[wraith steeple]

[iron relic]

this got me today.... was listening to YT while working and got slapped by one of our ads

i didnt even know we sponsored karl jobst

[cerulean cosmos]

Lel

[valid quail]

for gaming streaming etc

[wraith steeple]

Noooiiiice

SRGB getting more recognition I see

[iron relic]

we are giving away a toaster

[cerulean cosmos]

Guess how much this costs

[frank zealot]

y'all got some unhinged social media, just sayin

[cerulean cosmos]

"Toast toasts toast toast"-Luigi

[merry stirrup]

i have done this before

[shell void]

new interesting kit https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mQBFf7/patriot-viper-elite-5-ultra-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-8000-cl36-memory-veu548g8036k

2x24 8000cl36 1.4v $165

i’m tempted to get it to play with

[next sun]

is the thermaltake thoughpower gt 750 w the best psu i can get in that price range? for 80 euros

[shell void]

@merry stirrup thoughts?

[merry stirrup]

pay one singular dollar more for the 8200 c38 bin

[shell void]

apparently the one i linked uses nice pcbs

[frank cypress]

if i win I will check how waterproof it is

[shell void]

very W memory kit

[merry stirrup]

only way of telling is to buy both clearly

[next sun]

can anyone help?

[frank cypress]

gonna test it in the bath tub

[shell void]

well i asked buddy nepnep who is practically an oracle

[frank cypress]

for bath toast

[shell void]

he told me the kit that i linked uses brainpower brand low loss pcbs

[hollow hull]

it could be

[shell void]

he also said that my novalake information is correct as of now

[next sun]

is it b tier?

[merry stirrup]

i would imagine this may matter if you had anything 2 dimm or capable of over 8K

[shell void]

tomahawk can do 8K so i kinda wanna buy some 1r memory to play with

all i have is 2r adie

[merry stirrup]

that is valid but idk if you want a playing around kit id buy 1r adie

cause thats most competitive

mdie would be fun