tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

id look into like intel 7th gen

if you already have it, its great

[lean cradle]

yeah i got it for free

[merry stirrup]

if you are looking to buy something, make sure youre buying properly

[brave panther]

i got proliant ml30 gen 9 for 50$ (skylake/kabylake)

[merry stirrup]

fire

[lean cradle]

i do have a 3 U server in my game room

[merry stirrup]

id love that

[fringe vigil]

Yo Peyton

[brave panther]

guy has lots of them, i bought 2x

[fringe vigil]

How’s the bald guy

[merry stirrup]

those are switches

[lean cradle]

yes.

[merry stirrup]

the one below it might be a server

[lean cradle]

10/100

[merry stirrup]

those arent servers

unless you meant like a 3u rack

[lean cradle]

yes

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I think I was on 3090 Ti maybe? I remember it being very long

[brave panther]

you need to take care of rack depth, servers are usually very long

[merry stirrup]

i get cfl and cfl-r free from work so its chillin

[lean cradle]

just a shell, i don’t know where to go to buy a motherboard for it

[merry stirrup]

dont!

definitely too old to be worth it

[lean cradle]

i mean it’s like an empty shell, won’t i be able to buy a new mobo?

[merry stirrup]

its proprietary almost 100%, you cant put anything but the orighinal board in there

id bet money on that being correct

from the looks of it its an old HP server

[lean cradle]

oh it’s just a generic shell with different mounting points

[brave panther]

only thing that i hate abt it is that i am not able to use RDIMM which i have lots of

[lean cradle]

would i be better off buying a 3 u atx server case

[merry stirrup]

oh i mean maybe you can find sumnthin

[lean cradle]

and then building a normal pc in it

[merry stirrup]

or just an already rack ready server

idk what would be cheaper cause rack servers are kinda cheap

and rack atx cases for some reason arent

like.... really cheap...

[lean cradle]

do you have anyone in mind, i don’t really know what to look for

[lean cradle]

i think that’s too big for my rack Lol

[brave panther]

are you in US or EU?

[merry stirrup]

probably but at 100$ just put it next to it 💀

[lean cradle]

US

[merry stirrup]

i think most things would simply bee too long idk

[merry stirrup]

L

[lean cradle]

hey floppa can i get back to you later? i definitely need someone’s help to point me in the right direction and i have some more q

but at work rn

[merry stirrup]

yes if im alive

[lean cradle]

ok bet

[merry stirrup]

me as well youre actually curing my bordem dont leave

[hoary hatch]

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/skymont-in-gaming-workloads

More E core glazing content 😩

[merry stirrup]

gaming testing with a b580

guess thats not the point here so its ifne

[brave panther]

intel give us 32 e core only chip that fits in a consumer platform and supports ecc

[shell void]

i need 16p32e

[hoary hatch]

32 e core would be relatively small silicon

[hoary hatch]

Well, you're gonna get kind of that

(8+16)+(8+16)

[merry stirrup]

but not cool

[hoary hatch]

• 4 meme cores

[merry stirrup]

yeah fuck you mister i dont want your 50/50

[brave panther]

small and cheap

[hoary hatch]

Genuinely surprised LPE isn't gonna be disabled on desktop

[vagrant cargo]

i dont know ow i went from looking up custom pc cases on etsy to browing phone cases for my 25 ultra linked to games or even lovecraft

[merry stirrup]

can we disable every core type besides the LPe and benchmark it

[hoary hatch]

Uhh

[merry stirrup]

how many extra cinebench points do they get me

[hoary hatch]

Good question

I don't think bios lets you disable all P cores

[merry stirrup]

that would be racist

[hoary hatch]

But you can set windows affinity?

[merry stirrup]

eh i guess thats true

[hoary hatch]

Idk how 3 tiers works

[merry stirrup]

does anyone?

[shell void]

indubitably

i have basically every piece of info about novalake at this point except for benchmarks

[hoary hatch]

Huge cinebench

It will be the dual channel memory cinebench king

[merry stirrup]

why dont we just get 4 channel on desktop

[shell void]

100K+ pts in R23 if DLVR doesnt keep it in chastity

[hoary hatch]

Are we stupid

[merry stirrup]

what flavor

if its the erm actually kind i dont care that ddr5 is 2 channels per stick

[hoary hatch]

256bit interface

[brave panther]

needs more pins

[merry stirrup]

thats clearly not a problem for anyone

[brave panther]

just put HBM on the cpu substrate

[merry stirrup]

now this

[hoary hatch]

Yoooo

Put ram on package

[merry stirrup]

hes thinking

[hoary hatch]

I'm calling pat right now

[merry stirrup]

first of its kind im sure

[merry stirrup]

bring the whole crew in here get lisa too

this needs to be known

[hoary hatch]

Tim apple should consider it

[merry stirrup]

nah bro they dont even need memory anymore

[wise bear]

bob dell

[fringe vigil]

pweyton yo

[wise bear]

👋

[fringe vigil]

hows the bald guy

[wise bear]

He's fine?

[brave panther]

they downloaded all of it from https://downloadmoreram.com/

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-uh-oh-woah-here-we-go-baldy-gif-496932662422229584

[merry stirrup]

yeah they actually just tell the cpu to work anyways and it just works™

[lean cradle]

hey floppa just popping back in to ask, would a itx build be a good fun build for a server pc

[brave panther]

maybe we can use qlc nand instead of ram

[lean cradle]

something like this

[brave panther]

go with matx, it has more expansion options

as well as lower cost

[lean cradle]

okay bet

can i build something with like 64 gb ddr5 and a decent cpu with other parts for like sub 600?

or what range should i look at for money

[brave panther]

ram will take really big chunk of that budget

[shell void]

@hoary hatch i think the 4p8e compute tile in the novalake ultra 3 cpu might just be a 4p8e pantherlake 18a tile

[lean cradle]

yeah, what cpu should i get if it’s gunna be server hosting

[hoary hatch]

It absolutely is

I mean I don't actually know but it surely has to be PTL

[shell void]

i dont see why theyd spend the money and time designing a 4p8e novalake tile

if they could just steal the 18a pantherlake tile and have better margins

they both use cougar cove so nobody is really gonna care

the ultra 3 could end up being an interesting cpu if it's priced aggressively

[hoary hatch]

We know any large 18a tile was canned a while ago

For plebs anyways

Afaik Xeon is still planned fully on Intel foundry

[shell void]

this is what i have as of now
"Coyote Cove" P-cores, "Arctic Wolf" E-cores, TSMC N2P
(8P 16E)+(8P 16E)+(4LPE) 288MB L3 (improbable)
(8P 16E)+(8P 16E)+(4LPE) 180MB L3 (skeptical)
(8P 16E)+(8P 16E)+(4LPE) 72MB L3 (likely)
(8P 16E)+(4LPE) 144MB L3
(8P 16E)+(4LPE) 36MB L3
(4P 8E)+(4LPE) 20MB L3 >> [potentially recycled Pantherlake 18A tile]
AVX10.2
2x1R 8000MT/s
24x 5.0 CPU, 8x 5.0 Chipset, and 16x 4.0 Chipset
Xe3 iGPU
Xe4 Display & Media Engine
NPU6 (75 TOPs)

[hoary hatch]

I think it's a real shame we never got any desktop chips using Intel 4/3

[shell void]

yeah it has to be, they need to sell high margin products

[hoary hatch]

They have to have tested raptor lake on EUV, right?

[brave panther]

what will you host?
something modded, vannila?
how many players

[shell void]

there were meteorlake desktop cpus

idk if they wouldve ever tested monolithic skus

[lean cradle]

modded, light mode maybe, like distant horizons. maybe some extra blocks. 20 max at a time

[hoary hatch]

With how uncompetitive lower end core ultra 200 desktop is, they may have been better off with cheaper/better margin MTL for core 3/5

[lean cradle]

but realistically no more then 6

[hoary hatch]

This makes me sad

[lean cradle]

it’s just for me and my friends

[hoary hatch]

What's improbable/skeptical

The cache or the core count

[shell void]

the cache

[hoary hatch]

I don't know about high core + high cache

Ah okay yeah cause early leaks said you either get tons of cores or tons of cache

[shell void]

MLID thinks theyre going to do double bLLC and i dont think that's physically possible

im not even expecting a 9950x3d situation

[hoary hatch]

Not at 50% margin at least

[shell void]

i think theyll just do two regular tiles to give people a high core count option on mainstream

and then do a single tile bllc option for gamers

which is why i marked the two potential bllc dual tile options as improbable and skeptical

[hoary hatch]

High core count doesn't need high cache

It's just geared for a different work load

[shell void]

yeah i dont think it would be smart to launch a big cache dual tile cpu from a business standpoint

[brave panther]

just get one of the tiny mini micro systems with something like 32gb of ram
(lenovo tiny, dell micro, hp mini)

[shell void]

amd did the market research for them

[hoary hatch]

So uhhh

[brave panther]

should be like under 100$ on ebay

[shell void]

7800x3d and 9800x3d MASSIVELY outsell the 900x3d and 950x3d

[hoary hatch]

It sounds like the ambitious 18a node was too ambitious

[shell void]

it's not even close

[hoary hatch]

Probably should have saved backside power for 14a

[lean cradle]

they work well?

ill take it apart and frankenstein it into my server rack

[hoary hatch]

Dude holy fuck

[shell void]

18A isnt a flop by any means, it's going to make all the compute tiles for xeon 7

[hoary hatch]

AMD figuring out how to sell 8 cores for $500 in 2025 is amazing

[shell void]

and then it will live on as 18A-PT for base tiles for future cpus

[brave panther]

no need, it already fits

[shell void]

this is why putting BSPD in 18A was valuable

[random flame]

Did they ever do backside power for their older nodes? I can't remember.

[shell void]

no backside power delivery on 18A is an industry first

[hoary hatch]

I just
Why isn't Intel products using it for NVL? Is Nova lake actually going to be competitive with Zen6, especially X3D, anyways?

[shell void]

nobody has done it on a mass production node before

[lean cradle]

ok bet

how much are they used if u know off the top of ur head

[hoary hatch]

Either there isn't enough volume for Xeon + consumer in late 2026 (okay I guess Xeon gets the waffles), or the performance isn't better than N2

[random flame]

No, I meant did they ever do it for their 14nm or 10nm nodes at some point?

[hoary hatch]

And if it's the latter, will they still be competitive with Zen6 while paying more for wafers from Taiwan?

[hoary hatch]

Noooo

[shell void]

no bro it's a brand new tech

[hoary hatch]

14nm is ancient technology technically speaking

[lean cradle]

will amd ever release a gpu more powerful then the xtx

[shell void]

18A is the first node to ever use backside power delivery

[vagrant cargo]

i would buy a HYTe 70 case but i dont like the usb ports been on the bottom of the cass

[hoary hatch]

Intel 10nm was too aggressive and they had to relax it for ESF (Intel 7)

[vagrant cargo]

case*

[hoary hatch]

Also I don't think intels older nodes support TSV?

[shell void]

my armchair engineer guess is that they need 18A fab capacity for Xeon, and 18A isnt as dense as N2P which could limit their ability to cram a bunch of SRAM in the compute tiles

[hoary hatch]

So they can't use them for stacking

[fickle dirge]

Does anyone know why I dont have the ability to turn on hyper virtualization on windows 11

I cant use blue stacks without it

[vagrant cargo]

what is hyper virtualization?

[hoary hatch]

Call me crazy
What about 1 compute tile and 1 cache tile next to it

[random flame]

Alright just making sure.

Especially because it's also sorta a missed opportunity for a potential backport (at least for 10) because right now, they're just floundering and that tech probably would've made the older nodes more viable, especially after they finally got into EUV.

[fickle dirge]

Im not too sure tbh it just says I cant use bluestacks with that disabled

On AMD its called SVM or something

[shell void]

my good sir did you design the 5775c

[edgy laurel]

Hyper V

[fickle dirge]

But I cant find it in my bios

[hoary hatch]

Granted, I suspect a lot of core 400 series laptop parts to be rebadged panther Lake except for H/HX

[fickle dirge]

I did that and it still didnt work

[shell void]

that would be smart

[hoary hatch]

I basically guarantee it

[shell void]

enterprise and laptops being higher margin is crucial

[edgy laurel]

You need to enable it in the BIOS.

[fickle dirge]

I couldn't find it in my bios either after everything I tried

[hoary hatch]

U/P is likely PTL-R

Remember that laptop 200 series contains

Alder lake
Raptor Lake
Meteor lake
Arrow Lake
Lunar lake

[edgy laurel]

If this is a relatively modern system, its in there. Dunno what hardware it is so can't really help further

[hoary hatch]

Alder and raptor are ehhhhhh close enough to the same thing

[brave panther]

50-100$ and then get more ram separatly as they usualy come with 8gb
alternativly you can also buy a new mini pc like this one (max memory 16gb) https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-EQ13-PCIE3-0-Computers-Support/dp/B0D5QXTFHH

[hoary hatch]

Lunar is it's own bespoke design

[shell void]

it does look like theyre reusing pantherlake and wildcat lake designs for NVL-H

NVL-HX is just desktop novalake underclocked like usual

[hoary hatch]

H might be NVL

[hoary hatch]

Because MTL refresh kept core counts but only used on lower TDP lines

So we didn't get a MTL refresh H sku iirc

Presumably those are dies?

[shell void]

yeah those are different steppings

[hoary hatch]

Wtf is 4+4+4+10

[shell void]

4p4e4lpe 10xe3 i assume

[brave panther]

go to "turn windows features on or off" and checkmark it there

[fickle dirge]

Thats for AMD

[merry stirrup]

it’s very similar

[fickle dirge]

I did that and its checked but still disabled on task manager

[random flame]

That's what it sounds like to me too.

[fickle dirge]

Yeah but I dont see a SVM mode or hyper v setting in bios so im confused

[merry stirrup]

find SVM or Virtualization tech in your bios

[merry stirrup]

you must be blind

[fickle dirge]

I tried I went to advanced cpu and its not there

[merry stirrup]

turn on braille mode

[brave panther]

did it download the "windows update" and did you reboot afterwards?

[edgy laurel]

its gonna be in the same place.. use your search

[shell void]

BTL-S A0 WHERE ARE YOUUUU

i want to see how monolithic 12p0e raptorlake performs

[fickle dirge]

I haven't yet downloaded the update

[merry stirrup]

why do you care if it’s on or off?

[fickle dirge]

I cant use bluestacks without it

[brave panther]

well after it downloads you will have to reboot

and it will work

[merry stirrup]

i need 500 shots this instant

[edgy laurel]

Everything you want will be in CPU settings / Advanced CPU settings. Look for VT-D, VT-X, Virtualization support.. something along those lines is in there, I promise you. Unless this is some very weird non-retail board with a custom BIOS, it exists. You need to use the search.

[fickle dirge]

Alright let me screenshot it and try it real quick i'll send a pic if I dont find it

[devout ridge]

check your front doorstep, should be a couple handles

[merry stirrup]

thank you my goat

[edgy laurel]

A screenshot that doesn't show the settinsg won't really help us

[vagrant cargo]

there has to be a phone case with a led display on the back

[hoary hatch]

Uhh

[merry stirrup]

uhhh

this is useless i’m afraid

[vagrant cargo]

tbh i also brought one of those led display backpacks where you can put any image you want or gifs on it

[hoary hatch]

Reminds of the HTC one m8 pixelated case

[edgy laurel]

no there doesn't... our phone cases have screens on the front

[hoary hatch]

Rog phones have had tiny back OLED in the past?

[vagrant cargo]

i want a flip case that has led displays

[brave panther]

ill make you one for 2000$ *shipping not included

[vagrant cargo]

i own so many led displays on stuff i like fully custimising stuff through led displays

[fickle dirge]

Not here

[vagrant cargo]

i even own a mask with has a display on it the qudi 2

[random flame]

This... Honestly makes me just want to say that you have enough then and you can live without an extra one. Lmao.

[edgy laurel]

i'm sure i'd find it. i'd be digging through Settings, not tweaker

[vagrant cargo]

i normally use it if i go out to clubs with my girlfriend and my friends and when i say club i dont mean night club more clubs that do rock music and stuff for some reason int he town i live in drunk guys keep looking at my face and assume im pulling a face when im just chatting to my friends

[brave panther]

settings > miscellaneous

not in tweaker

[fickle dirge]

Found it in miscellaneous

[edgy laurel]

also again BIOS search is your friend... so easy to find things

[vagrant cargo]

also tbh always been a fan of stuff like daft punks helmets

[fickle dirge]

Thanks

[random flame]

Mmmmmm in that case, don't even bother with an LED case then.
Just go full-on LED mask only... Or a light-up DP helmet, use the cosplaying excuse.

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-purge-mask-gif-18646631

[molten iron]

I updated my graphics driver to the version y’all said was pretty stable. Same problem kept occurring.

566.36 works fine

[fickle dirge]

Still staying its not enabled in task manager though

[merry stirrup]

me and bro locked in

[fickle dirge]

..bruh

[edgy laurel]

somehow i'm not grasping the logic of trying to avoid confrontations with drunk dudes in bars by donning a mask with glowing LED's... but thats just me

[random flame]

Same. Lol.

[merry stirrup]

if anything i’d be like “dayumnnfnd bro thays sick af”

and start yapping

[random flame]

Cosplaying is asking for attention really, same with having anything eye-catching like light-up devices.

So having a phone case with LEDs on it won't really do much, it'll just draw people's eyes to you and make you more a center of attention than you're probably comfortable with, regardless how few in the room it is.

Especially when it's the drunk af ones.

[vagrant cargo]

i own and wear a qudi mask 2 some days when im out i have had some people mention its weird and some people think it looks cool

[edgy laurel]

like.. in public?

[vagrant cargo]

one old lady in her 70s said shes happy that kids now are embracing future tech even wearable stuff

[vagrant cargo]

yeah like i said i wear it sometimes in public i have hemophilia and sometimes it leads to random bruises uo my face and even marks on my face so wearing the mask covers that up but allows the mask to track my emotions

qudi 2 has a dynamic mode and uses sensors

[violet smelt]

i found an msi mag b660m mortar dd4 board at goodwill for $10

[vagrant cargo]

i do sometimes where it to clubs aswell

if i go to them

[violet smelt]

its actually worth like 350

[vagrant cargo]

when i dont have my mask on me and its at home charging i have other stuff i use to cover my face with

mostly i will one of those pull up half face masks that covers upto my nose and then wear sunglases people can see my eyes under or chemion glasses

ive owned those for ages and they are starting to die on me

lasted ages

[merry stirrup]

💀

im all for going to good will and picking up cheap shit but the board is NOT worth 350

it is actually a decent board, iirc, one of the few that allow non-k oc (idk about that on b660 tho). but its worth 100, maybe 150

[young void]

Snails you gonna be hunting a hynix 5090?

[topaz veldt]

My wife didn't find it very funny

A 5090 Matrix?

[edgy laurel]

do you think he needs more???

[young void]

Not sure but saw a pic of a dude with a few 5070s but one as hynix

[edgy laurel]

Hynix.. the DRAM manufacturer?

[topaz veldt]

I'm confused

[young void]

Brb

[edgy laurel]

same

[young void]

Most are made with samsung

At least my 2 5090s are

But some are coming out with hynix that are slightly more efficient but was just curious

[topaz veldt]

Ohhhh

[edgy laurel]

oh, what VRAM it has. Realy up to the AIB and what they have access to at the time

[young void]

All good either way

[topaz veldt]

You mean with hynix vram

[young void]

Yeah

[topaz veldt]

Exodus! Movement of jah people

[edgy laurel]

whoa

you have a little moment there?

[topaz veldt]

Bob Marley and the Whalers

I'm remaking all my favorite albums covers in AI

[young void]

For keks why nots

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[edgy laurel]

thats so confusing

[edgy laurel]

oh wow, ok... damn

[topaz veldt]

See?

It's all puns

[edgy laurel]

i don't think i've really ever looked at that for 20 years so

[topaz veldt]

Lol

[edgy laurel]

did you tell it to do an art style

thats an animation style i think i recognize, can't put my finger on the movie(s) i've seen it in

[young void]

Ai can be fun sometimes

[topaz veldt]

I asked for claymation

Imagine if this were the original album art

[knotty haven]

Suggestions. I’m debating on using Tailscale, twingate, or setting up a vpn on a cheap tp-link router. Which would be more advisable? I am leaning twingate to play with then fall back to Tailscale if I don’t like it but it’s more of an opinion question of if I should do vpn or play with twingate or just go to Tailscale with what I have setup on an old system.

[topaz veldt]

Whichever

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

someone call me a moneymancer

my only spells are summon dollar and get coin

[knotty haven]

Also would upgrading a router nic to 10gb bet worth it on a 1gb network or upgrade switches to 2.5gb first? I currently using a cheap 125$ router atm with a 2.5gb connection and cabling I’m already getting cat 6a.

[edgy laurel]

summon $2000 and get a 5090

Solar Bay Extreme added to 3DMark

free

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3941790/3DMark_Solar_Bay_Extreme/

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[topaz veldt]

It just tells you that your PC stinks

[edgy laurel]

it tells me that, yeah

[topaz veldt]

it tells everyone

[edgy laurel]

its about that time to go terrorize some tankers with C4

[topaz veldt]

when does it come out for reals

[edgy laurel]

6?

uhh, October 10th I wanna say?

[turbid locust]

Sounds about right

[merry stirrup]

what about clankers

[edgy laurel]

my two best from last night

[topaz veldt]

is the beta going now/

[edgy laurel]

no

[topaz veldt]

so dumb

just let 'er run

[edgy laurel]

everyone goes boom

there were some leaks on /r/battlefield today showing the big maps

[topaz veldt]

i hope there's fun shit

[merry stirrup]

no discrimination

[topaz veldt]

was talking to a coworker yesterrday and he was like "remember that map... rush... and you start and there's a light house..."

VALPRAISO or whatever

[edgy laurel]

YUP

I sure hope Rush isn't locked to 12v12

[topaz veldt]

what mode is iwa jima

imagine a 64 v 64 rush lol

[lusty tinsel]

Yo you guys are still around. Wild

[topaz veldt]

well... aren't you also?

[edgy laurel]

64v64 Conquest or Breakthrough, which i'm going to try now. only did Conquest last night. I hear Breakthrough you storm the beach on Attacker

[lusty tinsel]

I meant on this server of course

Not living/dead

[edgy laurel]

I live here

[topaz veldt]

o h i see iwa jima 24/7

[topaz veldt]

right but aren't you also still here then?

[lusty tinsel]

I haven't frequented this server in quite a while. Been busy

But now I'm building another pc

[topaz veldt]

but you're still here

do you see what I am saying?

[lusty tinsel]

Still in the server, yeah

[edgy laurel]

Ok yeah 64v64 Conquest and 32v32 Breakthrough

[topaz veldt]

but how do you know we didn't just show up today also?

[lusty tinsel]

That's fair 😂

How ya guys doing?

You both helped me out a ton on my first build.

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel I love the animation of the sabot round or whatever into the tanks

[merry stirrup]

whats that tank that shoots like a wacky burst

[topaz veldt]

AA?

[merry stirrup]

i thinkt his thing

[fickle dirge]

Can someone pls help me I did everything in bios I enabled it in windows and my virtualization is still off and I cant play bluestacks

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[edgy laurel]

This guy battlefields

[topaz veldt]

it all comes back

[nimble maple]

Battlefield was so good man. Might have to get it at some point just don't know when.

Is anyone else having this error trying to uninstall this update that's supposed to be bricking SSDs?

[fickle dirge]

Bro @edgy laurel

[topaz veldt]

I did alright Guilty

[fickle dirge]

Idk what to do

[edgy laurel]

yeah yeah yeah lol

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/celine-dion-its-all-coming-back-to-me-now-gif-24006867

[edgy laurel]

dude the Breakthrough is fun on this map, its a pretty epic setting

just did attacker, well i still am, and stormed the beach

[topaz veldt]

do you want to team up

breakthru is kind of nuts

[peak solstice]

is deleting ene.sys a bad idea

[topaz veldt]

no

[peak solstice]

should i just do it then? https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1407902036007059628 this is my problem

my other thought was installing rgb fusion and uninstalling so maybe it updates ene.sys or something

[topaz veldt]

no idea

[hoary hatch]

Oh

The bad guy in the new mission impossible is just chatgpt

Cool

[topaz veldt]

I can't carry this whole team ffs

[vagrant cargo]

so guys amd rx 9080

when do you guys have predictions amd will announce it and reveal its release date?

[edgy laurel]

we've know for a while that won't be a thing

its not coming, never was

[hoary hatch]

Lol what u smokin

[heavy mantle]

why not front?

[buoyant hedge]

Remember when Avast was like half-decent and recommended by several people about 10 years ago and now it's probably as bad as Norton and McAffee at this point?

Then they started bloating it like crazy in 2016-2017.

I actually used it for a while, but then the bloat got out of hand so I reinstalled Windows (which I had to do anyways since I accidentally installed Windows on an MBR drive on accident) and replaced it with the free version of Bitdefender.

[vagrant cargo]

im curious how well the 5080 would of reviewed if it didnt have 16gb vram but more

so for example 24gb

[edgy laurel]

so 5080 Super

which you'll see next

[turbid locust]

Do we think 50 supers will be worth a damn lol

[devout ridge]

no

[turbid locust]

I haven’t been paying attention to leaks/rumors

[devout ridge]

anything below the 5060 is almost certainly going to be not worth it

or did you mean 50 series super

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[devout ridge]

it'll probably be like last gen where the supers kind of replace most of the normal cards

[shell void]

i swear uve been in chat when we've talked about them

[ripe needle]

I’m getting a new build, i wanna know if its that much better than my old one

[turbid locust]

Doesn’t mean I’ve been paying attention lmao

[devout ridge]

if what is that much better than what

[turbid locust]

All I’ve noticed is “vram buff” lol

[vagrant cargo]

eh if they do what they did with the 4080 and 4080 super i doubt there gonna upgrade the vram

[devout ridge]

hope and pray the super generation is just all the same cards but +4/8gb of vram

[edgy laurel]

bud this has been known for a while

[ripe needle]

i7 12700f + 4060 is old, ryzen 7800X3D + 3080 ti is new

[vagrant cargo]

yeah but i feel like its something nvidia needs to do is make the 5080 or the 5080 super 24gb vram wise

[edgy laurel]

.... they are

[shell void]

that is pretty much it unfortunately

5070: GB205 / 48SMs 80ROPs / 6x2GB 28Gbps / 250W
5070 Super: GB205 / 50SMs 80ROPs / 6x3GB 28Gbps / 275W

5070Ti: GB203 / 70SMs 96ROPs / 8x2GB 28Gbps / 300W
5070Ti Super: GB203 / 70SMs 96ROPs / 8x3GB 28Gbps / 350W

5080: GB203 / 84SMs 112ROPs / 8x2GB 30Gbps / 360W
5080 Super: GB203 / 84SMs 112ROPs / 8x3GB 32Gbps / 415W

[ripe needle]

Y’all still on the 50 series?

[shell void]

and a lil higher wattage for a lil more clockspeed

[turbid locust]

fuck else would we be on

[ripe needle]

Nvidia 90 series

[devout ridge]

big upgrade

[vagrant cargo]

i currently own the 5080 palit game rock oc gpu

[shell void]

5070 super could be nice if it's actually available at $550

[turbid locust]

I am on a 90 series

[devout ridge]

what

[shell void]

a card good enough to play whatever you want on a 2160p monitor if you arent opposed to dlss

[ripe needle]

Should i sell the 3080 ti for a 5070 super tho

[merry stirrup]

nah bruh i’ve got a riva tnt 2

[devout ridge]

i can't make any recommendations for or against the 5070S given it doesn't exist

[ripe needle]

It doesnt?

[devout ridge]

i ain't a fortune teller

there are no 50 series super cards at the moment

[turbid locust]

so minimal raster buff

[shell void]

my crystal ball is 8k

[ripe needle]

I meant ti

[shell void]

yah basically just pre-overclocked and more vram

aside from the 5070 getting 2 more SMs which is a nothingburger

[devout ridge]

it's a 32% performance increase compared to the 3080ti

[turbid locust]

no 5090 Super

[merry stirrup]

i got something better

[ripe needle]

Bur its cheaper 😭

[shell void]

no way man they save all the good samples for the pro 6000 xd

[devout ridge]

then buy it

[merry stirrup]

how is a 5070ti cheaper than a 3080ti

[edgy laurel]

michael where is my background games framerate limiter

[turbid locust]

Just means our 5090’s hold value

[edgy laurel]

can you check your Global tab?

I don't have it

[ripe needle]

Well im wrong on the price but 3080 ti brand new is like an extra 100 bucks over the 5070ti

[merry stirrup]

that is not a three

[shell void]

i dont remember seeing that feature

[ripe needle]

Then again the 3080 ti used is like 400-500

[shell void]

aside from you mentioning it the other day

[merry stirrup]

nah it’s a thing

[edgy laurel]

the link you shared the other day i grabbed a screenshot from it

[turbid locust]

4080Ti doesn’t exist

[merry stirrup]

guilto i can check my control panel on ampere

[ripe needle]

Typo mb

[merry stirrup]

mac when do you think the AYW comes in?

[edgy laurel]

i mean you can but, its a new feature i saw in a screencap of the App

[merry stirrup]

i see

[turbid locust]

eh probably a week

[merry stirrup]

many thoughts hm hm

[edgy laurel]

see

Background application max framerate

thats from Nvidia .com showcasing the new App update

[merry stirrup]

you cool with waiting until next check then so i can nab both n 1 go?

[ripe needle]

Holy rich

[merry stirrup]

or i could split idk

[shell void]

it's under legacy

[merry stirrup]

knew it wasn’t new

[ripe needle]

Holy rich

[merry stirrup]

i’ve seen that in my 1050 laptop

[ripe needle]

Why does everyone have 5090

[turbid locust]

Wait guilty did you get a 5090 lmao

[edgy laurel]

well that makes no sense, in the screenshot it isn't..

[shell void]

most of the tech chat 2 daily users are full time employed adults and love hardware

[edgy laurel]

no?

[merry stirrup]

^

[vagrant cargo]

personally at the moment what intels cooking up and see if they make any higher end 4k gpus or and what amd will cook up aswell

[turbid locust]

Oh the screenshot you sent confused me

[ripe needle]

I’m bouta be a full time employed minor due to child labor law changes

[vagrant cargo]

because the 7900 xtx does compete with 5080 on some things its struggles alot with some games

[ripe needle]

Im basically making minimum wage but still

[merry stirrup]

i make 20 dorra

[edgy laurel]

grow up and get a real job, then you can have nice things.. also bills (which these 20y/o's don't have yet )

[ripe needle]

I make 14.50

[merry stirrup]

20 dorra

[turbid locust]

this is double min wage

[merry stirrup]

quite exactly even

[ripe needle]

Mcdonald not real job?

[ripe needle]

Yeah youre right

[turbid locust]

14.50 at McDonald’s holy shit

I fucked up as a teenager wtf

[edgy laurel]

not the sort i'm referring to, no

[ripe needle]

You shouldve waited to exit the womb

[vagrant cargo]

in uk minuim wage is 12.21 per hour i do part time kitchen work but thats not even my main income

my freelance work brings in the most money

[turbid locust]

I made eight dollars an hour in high school lmfao

[vagrant cargo]

i do kitchen work because at least i know my work is stable

[ripe needle]

I made 12 in middleschool 😭

[ripe needle]

I wanna get a job in cybersecurity eventually

[vagrant cargo]

the stuff i do freelance just isnt stable enough some times i get work but there can be a month to a month and a half where i go zero work

i get*

[ripe needle]

Damn

[turbid locust]

first post-promotion check hits next week am excite

[ripe needle]

What do you work in if you care to share

[turbid locust]

Technically healthcare lol

[ripe needle]

Nursing?

[turbid locust]

nah

[ripe needle]

Dang

[topaz veldt]

nice - second 5090?

[topaz veldt]

"milking"

[turbid locust]

third*

[turbid locust]

HUH

[topaz veldt]

bro i feel threatened

[ripe needle]

What!

[topaz veldt]

he works in dairy

[ripe needle]

Thats a sus job

[topaz veldt]

hes a cow nurse

[ripe needle]

Oh 😭

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/cornbread-refrigerator-majsbröd-love-gif-3915142564711260912

[topaz veldt]

dude where is that guy

[shell void]

snail runs a food cart on the corner of 7th ave & 37th street in new york

[topaz veldt]

I would never run anything in new york

[turbid locust]

Dude first time I visited NYC I saw like an ice cream truck right

cause it was hot asf and I was like “YOOO ICE CREAM”

it was $14.

[shell void]

robbed

[turbid locust]

fourteen dollars

[topaz veldt]

honestly thats not even bad

[turbid locust]

think it was ground zero too

[topaz veldt]

you can do much worse

like even where Guilty and I live we have mostly little ice cream shops and yeah $14 is easy to hit

my NJ place is in a shore town, $14 is without any toppings lol

[turbid locust]

right but those we’re actual places

This was a truck on the street

[topaz veldt]

yeah no i mean, we ahve that too

its jsut spensiver than back home

[turbid locust]

Yeh

[brisk jolt]

💀

[topaz veldt]

we got an ice cream truck that comes to my work its subsidized by the company and its still like $5-6/ea

[vagrant cargo]

i dunno why so many think nvidia will release or announce the 5080 super before January next year

[topaz veldt]

so they pay like god knows what to have it show up, and then they charge employees

[turbid locust]

lol brutal

[topaz veldt]

they have some local business that does lobster roll....

[shell void]

meanwhile a half gallon of stewarts ice cream is like $4.00

stewart's my goat

[topaz veldt]

dude 90% of these places charging $10 a dish are serving breyers anyway

local place - $8.25 for a halfy

[shell void]

is it good

a lot of people glaze ben & jerry's, but i think it's bland and overpriced

i am so spoiled by stewart's

[turbid locust]

I think my favorite part of moving up to management is walking into the office and there’s suddenly food

It’s great

My director got us lunch last week from a local Mexican place and that shit was BANGIN

[shell void]

getting paid to sit in a chair and eat food

[turbid locust]

shits lit

[shell void]

do you occasionally send emails inbetween getting paid to shitpost on discord

[turbid locust]

the days I get all my stuff done in like an hour and a half and then have to vibe for the next 6 hours…

That’s when the imposter syndrome hits LMAO

but nah I usually stay pretty busy between interviews, orientations, and paperwork lol

Just depends on how much shit hits the fan and if anyone randomly needs something lol

[shell void]

absolutely ideal

my favorite days

i love when i have nothing to do and i forget that im even at work because im just watching youtube on my phone

[turbid locust]

I do have to just be kinda “present” most of the time

yk, immediate reporting manager type shit

Idk I enjoy the chaos lmao

[oak vector]

I either want to be a fixed wing pilot
Or bomb technician… I’m not sure yet. But certainly as a bomb tech, if I’m not present that could create a major Oopsy

[wide fern]

Current Build:

OS: Windows 11 Pro

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF (12 cores / 20 threads, 3.6 GHz)

Motherboard: ASRock B760M Pro RS

RAM: 32 GB DDR4 (31.7 GB installed)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti

Storage: (not listed in the specs, but assume SSDs/HDDs)

PSU/Case/Cooling: (not listed, stock setup details not provided)

What I use my PC for:

3D rendering (resource-heavy)

High-end gaming (with shaders/mods)

What I’m looking for:
I’m not really bottlenecked at the moment, but I feel like there’s room to improve my setup, especially for rendering performance and smoother gaming at high settings. I was wondering if it’s worth upgrading my CPU (maybe to a newer-gen i7/i9 or even switching to DDR5), or if there are other upgrades that would give me better gains for my workload.

Question:
For someone doing both 3D rendering and high-end gaming, what upgrades would you recommend to future-proof and push my performance further?

[topaz veldt]

I don't

[wise turtle]

can the new windows update mess up the ssd on my laptop

[edgy laurel]

did you read an article about that?

https://wccftech.com/phison-acknowledges-ssd-failures-on-windows-11-due-to-kb5063878-kb5062660-updates-starts-investigations-on-its-controllers-to-resolve-the-issue

[oak vector]

I love bullying my boyfriend 💔

[wise turtle]

no i did not

[edgy laurel]

as you can see above, yes, yes it can. Assuming thats actually the problem and whatever you're experiencing isn't something else entirely

[wise turtle]

i dont have any problems currently i just dont want to have my laptop bricked

im just gonna delete the update

[buoyant hedge]

Should I be concerned if after only 4 years and 2264 hours of being powered on my Samsung 980 (non-Pro) SSD is already down to 92%? For context, the Silicon Power SSD which I bought in 2020 has 5891 hours and is at 98% health, and my Samsung 870 Evo is at 98% after 2 years and 3362 hours.

[edgy laurel]

hours don't matter, terabytes written matter

[edgy laurel]

do you have a drive with a Phison controller?

[wise turtle]

no idea

[oak vector]

I have a 250gb ssd lying around with like 2% health

I forgot how many tbw
But it was a bit.

[edgy laurel]

neither of my drives use Phison controllers, nor have they been among the noted drives that have died due to this. So I don't really care

[wise turtle]

i got a dell g15 5511

[edgy laurel]

thats a laptop, not an SSD

[buoyant hedge]

980: 12.749 TB
870 Evo: 15.360 TB
Silicon Power P34A60: 9.144 TB

[oak vector]

Dell optiplex 7060mt my beloved

[dark stratus]

No not particularly.

[wise turtle]

yea but if my laptop has a phison controller ssd

[oak vector]

I want an optiplex case as my main rig honestly

[edgy laurel]

yeah but I or anyone couldn't tell you that based on the model of laptop

[buoyant hedge]

I used an old Vostro 230 case for a long time.

[oak vector]

I love optiplex cases

[topaz veldt]

Which drives use them?

[oak vector]

They’re so ugly and impractical I want it

[edgy laurel]

Phison? A TON

[buoyant hedge]

Thankfully back then Dell used the standard Intel front panel pinout and they didn't even use proprietary PSUs like modern systems.

[edgy laurel]

this is nothing

[radiant shoal]

he keeps me in a basement and im not meant to be here

[topaz veldt]

but like obv samsung doesn't, SK Hynix?

[oak vector]

😭

[edgy laurel]

depends on model, looks like the SK Hynix Gold P42 does

[buoyant hedge]

Although tbf the 980 only has a TBW of like 600, but that should mean that it's only degraded 2% in terms of write capacity?

[topaz veldt]

Interesting - P41 is said to use The SK Hynix P41 SSD, specifically the Platinum P41, uses an in-house controller called Aries (model number ACNS075 PHC633.00S-2)

So looks like nothing I own uses it

[edgy laurel]

"Aries", whatever that is

[topaz veldt]

its in house

[buoyant hedge]

Also, isn't 600 TBW actually lower than a 2TB+ 870 QVO?

[dark stratus]

"Supposedly" affects drives using E12 (old as balls), E16, E18, and E21T, the latter two being of "more concern". Phison claims that its false information though.
https://wccftech.com/phison-statment-false-documents-sent-to-customers-claiming-windows-11-ssd-breaking-update-specific-to-their-controllers-legal-action/

[edgy laurel]

its probably more than just Phison, they're just a popular option for a lot of drives. Silicon Motion is another

[dark stratus]

So take it all with a grain of salt I suppose. Blame microsoft.

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I own a bunch of 980 Pro, 990 Pro, and SK P41, and the new WD SN8100, so I don't think I have them

[oak vector]

Is an 8700g a good upgrade over an r5 5600 😔

[edgy laurel]

SanDisk/WD's drives are built on custom Silicon Motion controlers

[oak vector]

Considering I’ll be getting it cheaper than the 5600*😔

[topaz veldt]

8800 CL40, this is the most success I have had in Karhu yet... only thing I did was run my 8600 stable tune then did DIMM fit for 5 hours, now 8800 is running properly...

[topaz veldt]

The SN8100 I think is different

oh no, its SMI SM2508

[edgy laurel]

yeah

modified with their secret sauce

[dark stratus]

Closest thing you've got for an "aftermarket" controller is WD's SN8100 SM2508 repackaged but with custom/tuned firmware, definitely not Phison. Not like I would personally say using drives with such controllers are high risk.

[topaz veldt]

that drive is so needlessly OP

[edgy laurel]

so it performs quite a bit better than other drives with stock SM2508's

[dark stratus]

P41 Plat... does have an unresolved pSLC cache regeneration problem though.

[topaz veldt]

4TB PCIe 5.0 that doesn't overheat

[topaz veldt]

Nah fixed, actually

I dont even know whats in this pc...

[wise turtle]

mines samsung so i should be fine

[dark stratus]

It doesn't seem like it has proven to have helped given nobody's properly or publically benchmarked it.

[edgy laurel]

maybe, maybe not. I just tried to uninstall KB5063878 and it failed

but w/e

[wise turtle]

i need a pc anyways

[wise turtle]

my keys are starting to not work properly

[topaz veldt]

I don't even see that on my system

ah there it is

[dark stratus]

Still going to take it with a grain of salt though. I'll have to wait and see if any large outlets prove it's been fixed.

[wise turtle]

ive had it for a week

im just gonna leave it

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I just tried

Failed lol

[topaz veldt]

Mine said worked and needs reboot

I think it's part of a cumulative

[meager saffron]

im unable uninstall the other one on laptop which has a ssd m.2 that uses phison

[edgy laurel]

I’ll be fiiiine

[topaz veldt]

Just experimenting

Success

[slim pebble]

One thing I can’t talk shit about ARL, the memory controllers on the 285K are nice

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

i have gotten paid

i wait for the macintosh to respond

[topaz veldt]

you buying his ti?

[merry stirrup]

yurp

[topaz veldt]

nice

[dense stump]

hes trying to upgrade my athlon!

[merry stirrup]

then promptly blowing it up

[slim pebble]

Now CB23 that bad boy

[topaz veldt]

rams won't do nothin

[merry stirrup]

990 pro for 65$?

my bad, 990 evo plus

[slim pebble]

You’re right. That’s CB24

[merry stirrup]

yes

more so than 23 anywyas

[fervent elm]

1tb?

[topaz veldt]

AA in BF is so fun

[topaz veldt]

yeah gross

[merry stirrup]

yea

[merry stirrup]

y

[topaz veldt]

Hybrid weird

[fervent elm]

Not horrible price tbh
65 is like 5-10 above average 1tb m.2 price

But its gen 5x2 so
Speed i guess?
Itd be same as 4x4 no?

[merry stirrup]

it auto pcie switches itself to pcie 4x4

...somehow

[topaz veldt]

It's weird

[merry stirrup]

or 5x2

[topaz veldt]

It's 5x2 in a 5 slot

And 4x4 in 4

It kind of makes no sense

[fervent elm]

Saving pcie lanes i guess?
For those boards with like 5 m.2 slots

[topaz veldt]

But it doesn't ever matter down to 2 lanes

[fervent elm]

Would need to have some weird ass pcie switch setup to really take advantage

In any case
Its a fine price
You could get an nv3 or a p3 plus for 60 tho

[fickle dirge]

Can someone help nothing has helped and I cant get it on

I went in bios I've changed setting on windows idk wat to do

[fervent elm]

What cpu?

Why do you want that

[merry stirrup]

bluestacks,. something 10th or 11th gen, b560 ds3h motherboard

[fervent elm]

ª

[fervent scaffold]

Office chair > gaming chair

[pure grail]

coldest take on earth

[fervent scaffold]

I am aware, I just didn’t realize how big of a difference it was

I have purchased 3 gaming chairs for $250 at minimum, other 2 at more

And I just spent $140 on an office chair and my spine is so much happier

[fervent elm]

Gaming chairs are all based on sports car seats for
Reasons?
Like pretty extreme ones too
Much rather have a plush chair

[indigo walrus]

Can confirm. My last employer's Herman Miller Mirra 2 with Mesh Back is the most comfortable computer chair I've ever used. They can pry this chair from my cold, dead body. I'm not saying gaming chairs are bad; they're just not for me. The best chair is the one that doesn't break your back as you sit in it for hours and hours per day.

[devout ridge]

no matter what chair you get, adjusting your posture frequently really helps

it’s less about good posture and more about variable posture

the one thing my adhd is good for, i can’t sit still to save my life

[fervent scaffold]

I think cause aesthetics if I had to guess

[devout ridge]

a “cool” look sells well to people that are less knowledgeable

[fervent scaffold]

Like the office chair I just bought is the only chair ive owned that does NOT have a recline feature, I could not care less considering how much better I feel

[devout ridge]

often times it’s a parent buying it for their child, so the “gamer design” makes them think it’s well suited for their “gamer kid”

[fervent scaffold]

I can definitely see that

I just think its absurd the amount of money gaming chairs cost for the lack of comfort too

Like $400 for bleh comfortability is not okay imo, obviously it can vary person to person but its still ridiculous for the $

[brisk jolt]

I regret my gaming chair lmfao

the material is mid af

but ive got bigger concerns than that

[fervent scaffold]

I thought the same thing till I realized im sitting in it for at LEAST 2hrs a day

But im also a mechanic, so my lower back be lower backin

[brisk jolt]

its functional and gets the job done, not the most comfortable for my liking but yeah

[fervent scaffold]

A better chair made a huge difference

[brisk jolt]

I need a desk change, maybe get a mesh system

[fervent elm]

As someone who used some red tiny round chair from like 1988
A chair matters a lot
Man it hurt my ass

[fervent scaffold]

It was only ever my lower back. This singular week in this new chair has finally made my daily pain start to fade

And im in my mid 20s lmao

[brisk jolt]

I dont have those problems but the material and space I’d prefer something better

[fervent scaffold]

Tbf it definitely wasnt just the chair causing my problems, but the new chair is making a huge difference

[brisk jolt]

I need a new desk first of all, and consider investing into a mesh wifi system

ts expensive icl

also im 2 years away from it but WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT MAKING CDC VOUCHERS GO INTO HOUSEHOLD ACC AND NOT INDIVIDUAL

I dont want to fucking deal with my family wtf

[fervent scaffold]

I have an extremely basic desk, works for what I got tho

[fervent scaffold]

I had to google what this was

America 🇺🇸

[brisk jolt]

basically vouchers to buy shit

like food, tech, whatever as long as the shop is certified and accepts it

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah I get that now lol

Provided by the government to support local businesses? I think?

Is what I got from a quick search

[brisk jolt]

yep correct

I dont get it till 21 (currently 19)

They want to merge from individuals to the household itself which sucks balls

Because I hate my family and I got the fuck outta there and in with my aunt

[fervent scaffold]

United states sucks for that, ive been out for years, had my daughter, and after a while moved back in with mom so we can actually save enough for a house

Moved back in like 2-3 months ago and plan on staying here for a year or two so we can have a decent enough downpayment on a house, because everything needs to be ridiculously overpriced for no reason. Even tho me and the wife make really solid $

C U B E

[low sonnet]

Cool looking pc

[fervent scaffold]

Yes its a mess underneath the desk I just got all sorts of shit in the mail to fix it

[fervent scaffold]

and thanks, building it for a buddy, @brisk jolt hates it

[oak vector]

does it deserve the 1080ti ftw3 though?

[brisk jolt]

formd t1 supremacy

[fervent scaffold]

Too goated, wont fit

[molten crater]

Can somebody rate this laptop (for its price) in AUD

[frosty prism]

Na

[fervent scaffold]

No

[molten crater]

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/lenovo-loq-essential-15-6-fhd-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5geforce-rtx-3050

[fervent scaffold]

Awful (I didnt even look at it)

[oak vector]

do you need to get a laptop
if not, it's a waste of money.

[molten crater]

I need something portable

[low sonnet]

Lowkey just get a mac 💔

Most laptop nowadays run 2 hours max without the charger

[fervent scaffold]

Anything that doesnt have an EVGA GeForce GTX 1080ti FTW3 is a waste of money

[molten crater]

Yeah but they suck at gaming and can’t run anything

[pure grail]

whered this misinformation come from

[oak vector]

And what does it need to do?

[pure grail]

you can have big gaming laptops that last 12hrs lol

[low sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875383136308043857/1399332517978443907/brandbird_1.gif

[fervent scaffold]

Biggest question here

[molten crater]

Mac’s don’t support a lot of applications and steam games

And I would rather stay on the pc side of things.

[oak vector]

Can I like
Stop having food intolerances please holy crap.

[pure grail]

even the worst worst gaming laptop here (does not have igpu, so its forced to turn on the rtx gpu) still lasts 3 hrs

[fervent scaffold]

Get a better gaming chair

[oak vector]

What does the laptop need to do?
And why does it need to be portable

[oak vector]

Ah yes that’ll solve my bodily issues 🙏

[molten crater]

Dam that’s a good question

[fervent scaffold]

What.

[molten crater]

Anybody know anything about Linux here?

[low sonnet]

Will you glaze it to your graves?

[oak vector]

If you wanna game but don’t need super portability, build a small pc with a portable monitor

laptops are
Not it man.

[pure grail]

that ones even worse lmao

[oak vector]

Well
If you’re just going to a mates house occasionally it isn’t that dumb imo

Price effective? Probably not.

[molten crater]

I have a shitty laptop I want to try to install some different operating systems on it to find one that’s easy to use but not as clunky as windows

[fervent scaffold]

S M O L but overpriced

[pure grail]

the main downside of laptops is that its not price:performance good
the thing ur suggesting is something that is you urself admit also isnt price effect, but also a 100x more hassle to move around

[oak vector]

😔

So true

[fervent scaffold]

That terra build is almost $1k usd without a gpu

So wack

[low sonnet]

I wonder if people just build the pc and look at them everyday

[fervent scaffold]

My buddy wanted it, told him he didnt need what he put into it, wouldnt listen and got that stuff anyways

[low sonnet]

Damn that guy is rich

[fervent scaffold]

Hes getting a gpu for it, just not for like a month or 2

[oak vector]

I had a mate who had a 1000aud budget and bought all new

😔

[fervent scaffold]

I had a budget of like $500 for my pc…. Actually spent like $2k usd

[teal orbit]

ask #linux

[oak vector]

5600x and a 4060
With some god awful motherboard

640us btw

[low sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-off-airpods-richoffairpods-stack-band-bandforband-gif-4351078540525453133

This is probably the seller

After fooling yet another person

[brisk jolt]

real shit

[oak vector]

He bought the parts himself 💔

[fervent scaffold]

That terra build has a 7600x and 64gb ddr5 6000 cl28 🫠

And a 850w psu, which he “needs” for that + a 9060xt

[oak vector]

.............

[fervent scaffold]

I tried VERY hard to convince him he doesnt need anymore than 32gb

[oak vector]

you just cant help some people man 💔

[fervent scaffold]

He mailed me 64gb anyways

He mailed me all the parts

I picked out most of them for him, he just changed stuff out

Thinks 64gb is “future proofing”

[frank cypress]

you dont?

[frank cypress]

is in a way

[fervent scaffold]

I do, while using it, lol

[oak vector]

in a moronic way that doesn't make sense yet really

[fervent scaffold]

64gb + a cpu he wont ever change out, is in fact, not future proofing

[oak vector]

I still rock 16gb, and yes I'd like more for me, but that doesn't even apply to everyone honestly.

[fervent scaffold]

He will 100% not change anything in this pc

[frank cypress]

I mean if you know there's a decent possibility that you're gonna use more than 32gb but not more than 64gb, it's future proofing to go 64gb

[oak vector]

64gb with a 7600x is kinda dumb

why does he think he need 64gb, I'm curious now

[low sonnet]

I dont treat her like my wife sorry

[oak vector]

Yes.
But.
With that cpu, needing more than 32gb is kinda unlikely??
not impossible, but.

[jaunty horizon]

yes

[fervent scaffold]

No shit lol, I tried really hard to tell him, get 32gb, if you somehow find a use for more, then change it. Cause I can pretty much guarantee he wont

[frank cypress]

there are totally valid reasons to buy a 7600x and 64gb of ram

[fervent scaffold]

He ignored

[low sonnet]

I've seen people getting a 3070ti for like 200 bucks, how do they even come across these deals

[frank cypress]

its just dependant on what you have in mind

[low sonnet]

It's basically a steal for the buyer

[oak vector]

I just doubt they apply in this situation 💔

[frank cypress]

oh me too

[fervent scaffold]

Because he leaves browser pages open on his phone

[frank cypress]

im just stating that such exceptions exist

[merry stirrup]

ennui send me a money spread

[fervent scaffold]

No joke

[merry stirrup]

sorry i meant hello

[frank cypress]

is monopoly money fine

[merry stirrup]

actually for the bit this sounds fire

[oak vector]

oh I agree but
I feel like this other person's budget could've been better allocated

[frank cypress]

I dont have monopoly in my household

[merry stirrup]

i think macintosh is asleep

[merry stirrup]

thats cad already silly

[oak vector]

my mum thought I was a genius when I closed all 20 of her apps on her iphone 6s

[frank cypress]

everything in my wallet

[pure grail]

whats the price of portable monitors in au again

[merry stirrup]

10 dorra

[fervent scaffold]

Does your bio really say rip your 2080ti ftw3???? Not even a EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 ti FTW3 😒

[oak vector]

it's beautiful

[merry stirrup]

little does this fella know

[low sonnet]

This cant be real

[frank cypress]

plastic bills are actually pretty nice

[fervent scaffold]

I drag the joke out really hard when @oak vector is around

[frank cypress]

im still mourning my loss

[merry stirrup]

2080ti kinda swag

[frank cypress]

hasn't even been a week

[low sonnet]

Did you fried it

[oak vector]

it is 💔

[low sonnet]

Dropped it?

[frank cypress]

no

turding gpu moment

[oak vector]

i eated it

[low sonnet]

Why it died

[fervent scaffold]

😩

[low sonnet]

Of course you'd be going around eating people gpu

[merry stirrup]

i plan on getting a 5070ti and blowing it up with an EVC

[frank cypress]

assuming the bga on one of the ics failed

[frank cypress]

goppa noooooo

[oak vector]

the way the flux rolls down the throat 😋

[merry stirrup]

well mac is giving me a certified worth it™ deal

[frank cypress]

oh?

[fervent scaffold]

Resistors are tasty

[frank cypress]

you should get him to sign it

[oak vector]

I am genuinely wanting to get a ftw3 3080 or 3090 because of you now

[merry stirrup]

no thats a fucking curse

[frank cypress]

dude max is positively ballin rn

[merry stirrup]

dont do that to meyoure trying to scam me rn

[frank cypress]

5070ti, and 2x 5090s

[merry stirrup]

true

[frank cypress]

bro is half a 5nail

[merry stirrup]

well i think they just gave him 200$ back for the old 5090

[brisk jolt]

i can get a ftw 3080 but its useless to me

[fervent scaffold]

I really want a evga 3090 just to put next to my 1080ti. Too bad theyre still 1k usd

[frank cypress]

wait huh

[brisk jolt]

they gave him $450 back

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah my bad

[frank cypress]

didnt he pay 2.5k for the first one

[merry stirrup]

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah my bad

[brisk jolt]

2450

[frank cypress]

💀

[brisk jolt]

they gave him 450 back, he got a better model and borderlands 4

[frank cypress]

thats a Lotta cheese yo

[merry stirrup]

then two kay

[oak vector]

💔

[merry stirrup]

for his tuf

and im buying his Z790Mpower and the 70ti

[frank cypress]

no joke his gpu might be more than my entire pc is worth rn

[merry stirrup]

for 8 hunnid or something

his gpu is worth more than my entire setup

including oled, etc

[oak vector]

it certainly is worth more than mine

[fervent scaffold]

Like I REALLY want one. But id be so dumb to drop that money

Does a 3090 outperform a 5070ti? I dont think so right?

[oak vector]

oh same.

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLBkBq
straight meowing

[frank cypress]

oh thats basically a 5070ti for a slight discount and a free mpower

thats not bad at all

[merry stirrup]

naw new 70tis were 750 on bb like yesterday

[frank cypress]

oh

$50 mpower

still meowing fr

[merry stirrup]

well its a used 70ti so realistically 100$ mpower

[frank cypress]

cheap either way

[merry stirrup]

yesss

[frank cypress]

so when custom loop direct die

[merry stirrup]

im not sure

whatever board i dont use its going to my gf

and she'll run some stupid cpu+high ram config

[fervent scaffold]

1080ti > 5070ti

[merry stirrup]

RX 560D> 1080ti

[frank cypress]

pascal has to be the most glazed generation ever

[merry stirrup]

fuck yo 1060

[frank cypress]

reallll

[fervent scaffold]

I would know, I had both in the same pc haha

[merry stirrup]

i have UHD 770 or something thats better than my 3080

[fervent scaffold]

Its sarcasm

[frank cypress]

hmm I wonder if its can sell off my bdie for more now

[brisk jolt]

just the 5090? i call miscalculation

[frank cypress]

[merry stirrup]

literally pcpp list below

[brisk jolt]

oh shit

our 5090s even Mac’s 2k TUF is also worth the entire-

[merry stirrup]

psu isnt an a1250gl

a1000g but its not on pcpp

[frank cypress]

you can make a custom part

[merry stirrup]

too lazy for that in the moment

[frank cypress]

fair

hey soon now most of the tc2 regulars will be on ada or newer

just realized

[merry stirrup]

YIPPIE

ill blow mine up then be on a 1660ti

[frank cypress]

nooooooo goppa noooooo

[merry stirrup]

explosions

[quasi lintel]

Kaboom

[frank cypress]

at least use the 4000 quadro

[merry stirrup]

oh i forgot i had that

thanks 💀

[frank cypress]

💀

[merry stirrup]

realistically i should sell it cause theyre overpriced

[quasi lintel]

Guys is it fair if I decide to downgrade from 1650 to GTS 450

[frank cypress]

but theyre kinda neat