tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

Nova Lake looks sick

[pure garnet]

that's a whole movie

[cerulean cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/skating-basketball-slam-dunk-ice-gif-24361241

@topaz veldt $60 HOOOOLY

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[cerulean cosmos]

its probably an upgrade to what i have

[topaz veldt]

that board was cursed

[cerulean cosmos]

good foot in the door for am5 am i wrong?

[brisk jolt]

thats not a video thats a movie

[topaz veldt]

thats the abridged version

yeah

the original video they show each mornings breakfast and dinner

[cerulean cosmos]

guess

[topaz veldt]

its a diving board

[cerulean cosmos]

"network modem card RJ11 8 bit ISA ISA62"

[frank cypress]

lol

you see, here's the part im confused about

I'm not sure if i was sleeping or awake

when I try to remember what happened

what I remember was, I woke up, fell back sleep, fell into sleep paralysis, my body went back to functioning then I checked the time and it was a time that wasnt right then I woke up

but I don't feel like that makes sense

I only really vividly remember feeling terrified about something but not being able to move

[topaz veldt]

turns out you just had diarrhea

[whole coral]

Interesting

[cerulean cosmos]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375736663607? 🤤 (for me)

[hoary hatch]

@merry stirrup how broken could it be

@merry stirrup hmmm

[cerulean cosmos]

??? wha---

[pure garnet]

i have this board and really like it

[hoary hatch]

I have no use for it but I can easily find a CPU on marketplace

Or I could water cool

[pure garnet]

$120 for skylake in the big 25

[shell void]

all that motherboard for a tiny 4 core cpu

chat these are horrendous don’t bother buying them even if they’re dirt cheap

[hoary hatch]

But look at that board!

[cerulean cosmos]

...

i agree but on the other hand im eating one right now

Not specifically that brand though

[cerulean cosmos]

What is this anyway?

[fervent elm]

TV tuner?

Or rather display switch maybe?

[hoary hatch]

Okay I see burn marks

[teal orbit]

that's not good

[shell void]

oh i love instant noodles

just that specific one i posted is awful

[cerulean cosmos]

Never mind I was wrong it is the same brand

The orange chicken one but yeah I don't like that flavor either

[slim pebble]

“Lead boomer brain”? That’s new 🤣

I’m stealing that

[teal orbit]

what are good instant noodles, i've never really had any

i think my dad has a bunch of whatever the generic maruchan ones are

[thick parcel]

indomie mi goreng hot and spicy

[fervent elm]

Maruchan chicken or beef noodles are great

[hoary hatch]

Nope not at all

I suspect there is more wrong with that card than some char on the power pins

[shell void]

i like these

[cerulean cosmos]

I seriously can't figure out what this is it seems to be like VGA or something

[merry stirrup]

probably worth it

[merry stirrup]

not worht it

i paid 150$ for my z790-e

[shell void]

as a general rule z690 boards are buns

[merry stirrup]

two are valid

the dork which is hardly an option and the tachyon which is also hardly an option

[fervent elm]

Some kind of display switch maybe?

[merry stirrup]

not vga

too wide me thinks

[cerulean cosmos]

But it has like the screws and the little dimples on the top just like VGA

[fervent elm]

Parrelel switch?

[cerulean cosmos]

But also there's only one to one input and output

[fervent elm]

Several old connectors used that

[pure garnet]

was that used

[cerulean cosmos]

Well yeah but also I can kind of tell just by the shape

[fervent elm]

Too wide to be vga
Might be serial

[cerulean cosmos]

Could it be like one of the printer ports?

[fervent elm]

Serial

Or maybe parallel

[merry stirrup]

thats what i awas thinking

[cerulean cosmos]

Yeah that's what I was thinking of the parallel

[merry stirrup]

its not vga

[merry stirrup]

mm mm okie

[cerulean cosmos]

Wasn't there a wider more teal one as well

No I was thinking of parallel when I said printer

I didn't know the name of it off the top of my head

[pure garnet]

checked my amazon and i blew 230 on the z690-e new

i like the board but it’s probably not a memory oc winner

[fervent elm]

Parallel came in a number of colour's
The wheel and number switches say probably a controller to switch to a specific device

[pure garnet]

but i’m also on alder lake which is guaranteed memory oc loser

[fervent elm]

Printer a-3
Or fax machine k-8

[cerulean cosmos]

Which one is the square wave symbol that's mirrored

[hoary hatch]

I offered $20 and bro hasn't responded

[cerulean cosmos]

Apologies for not knowing the names I'm still trying to learn all of it

[fervent elm]

Baller io set in 2003

[pure garnet]

i still use things that rely on parallel ports

[cerulean cosmos]

Which one is the teal one

[cerulean cosmos]

Cuz lower down there's the darker blue one which I know for a fact is VGA

[merry stirrup]

its worth for 40 tbh

just clean or replace the power connectors

that one on the right is super melted i bet if you were to clean it out and disconnect that pin (optional) it would just work

i reckon the 8 pin doesnt seat right because of that

but we both know the 8 pin pcie connector has a stupid amount of safety

[fervent scaffold]

Am I supposed to tell my wife how much I actually spent on my PC or do I just forever tell her that I got really good deals lmao

[brisk jolt]

say you robbed a homeless man

[analog plover]

Anyone done a threadripper build? finding bits and speccing one out is proving very challenging for me

[brisk jolt]

#1106613567966429224

[analog plover]

Its still a tech chat topic and this is a way that I could get info much faster

[brisk jolt]

you literally just asked the most vague question for TR ever

[analog plover]

I just wanted to get a convo rolling, then after that specifics are important

[brisk jolt]

[analog plover]

I see lots of builds with them when googling but finding parts, especially ones that ship to me, is proving challenging. Just looking for anyone who can help, which is most of the point of this whole server.

[brisk jolt]

what a fucking roundabout way to do shit

[fervent scaffold]

Has anyone ever built a PC, how do

[analog plover]

My bad for trying to get help finding in a tech youtubers discord, I'll just call geek squad next time lol

[brisk jolt]

????????

[analog plover]

Exactly what I saw, like how do I even get the bits

[fervent scaffold]

You should, let us know what $3,000 usd gtx 1660 build they spec you

[analog plover]

lol

[analog plover]

Whats your problem man, chill out, maybe take a bath and go for a walk lol

[fervent elm]

For some reason pcpp hasn't added any new hedt parts since 3000 series tr

[analog plover]

I saw that too, I was so lost

[brisk jolt]

Your the problem here, you didnt specify your issue you need help with?

so we’re supposed to magically know what you want/have

[fervent scaffold]

I agree with @brisk jolt

[analog plover]

Yes I did lol. I said I want help shopping for threadripper stuff, and even gave more detail after a few messages even tho it wasn't needed to start the convo.

[fervent elm]

Building a tr system is tye problem
Finding them is the issue
Simple as, no need to be hostile

[fervent scaffold]

I get you want help but that wasnt a real question

[brisk jolt]

dont ask to ask just ask b r u h

[fervent elm]

ª

[analog plover]

I have a real intention on getting one if I can lol

[fervent scaffold]

What is your use case to justify a threadripper build

[analog plover]

I guess. My thought process was to find someone who has done it so they could show me where they got they're stuff.

[brisk jolt]

Can anybody get a translator down there on what he’s trying to tell me or is he just repeating what he said initially

[fervent elm]

He plan buy threadripper

[brisk jolt]

cool

[analog plover]

It's not exactly justifiable right this moment, I use softwares like davinci resolve and blender and while my 7950X can siffice for now I want to explore more options.

[fervent elm]

Newegg has 7000 series tr boards and cpus
Look for tr5 boards

And 7960x, etc

[analog plover]

Its not that hard lol, Im trying to find a guy who has built a TR system so they can show me where they got their parts

[analog plover]

All the listings I found on newegg were sketch

[brisk jolt]

and you really took the roundabout way of expressing it

[analog plover]

Sorry? you know what you need to now so your just wasting energy beating a dead horse. I didn't ask a good question, my bad. I corrected it.

[fervent elm]

The boards at least seem fine to me
Shipped by Newegg from the manufacturer

[brisk jolt]

in all honesty I’d look/ask around for discord servers related to TR

[analog plover]

I didn't see any boards on there so I'll look. It just sucks that the CPU listings were mad sketch.

[fervent elm]

For the cpu
Might have to buy straight from amd

[analog plover]

This is a discord server for tech enthusiasts and people aew already amking progress

[fervent elm]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=str5+motherboard

[fervent scaffold]

Im not sure I can see a TR build justified if a 7950x is sufficient. Why not 9950x3d?

[analog plover]

Thats a good possibility

[analog plover]

The 9950X3D doesn't seem worth it to me

[brisk jolt]

bcs tho LTT has some peeps who do TR, most of us just deal with regular consumer items

[analog plover]

thanks

[brisk jolt]

By finding a dedicated dc you get more accurate answers

[analog plover]

they're being quite helpful so I think ill stay

[fervent scaffold]

What TR are you looking at for a $600ish usd cpu to not be worth it

[brisk jolt]

My apologies for being a dipshit I dont have a lot of patience

[analog plover]

Something with more cores. I honestly considered getting an older p620 with a 5975wx

[analog plover]

your good brotha

[fervent scaffold]

5090 at 720p. Take it or leave it.

[fervent elm]

Amazon has the cpus

[final flint]

Is a 750 watt psu enough for a 7900xt and 5700x3d

[analog plover]

they dont have a singe matx board bruh. I saw tons of old builds with matx boards. Maybe it'll come later down the line.

[analog plover]

they were sketchy when i looked

[brisk jolt]

yes

[fervent scaffold]

Yes

[final flint]

Ok thanks

[analog plover]

An 850 is barely any extra cost if you dont already have the 750

[fervent scaffold]

No point to it tho

[brisk jolt]

sorry to say but you are one indirect person 💀

[final flint]

I already got a 750 and dont plan on overclocking at least for a while so I should be good for a while

[analog plover]

dude your just bad at reading\

[fervent elm]

Sold by amd itself through Amazon it seems
Just low reviews because not many ppl buy these
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-ThreadripperTM-7980X-128-Thread/dp/B0CK2R6DVS

[analog plover]

your good my man

[fervent scaffold]

750 is probably fine for OC if it isnt a decade old

[brisk jolt]

that was a pretty yes or no question

[analog plover]

not really. If he doesn't already have a psu an 850 is little extra cost. If he already has one theres no point in upgrading. If this doesn't make sense thats on you.

[fervent scaffold]

@analog plover its you’re*

[fervent elm]

Y'ro'ue*

[analog plover]

thanks

[fervent scaffold]

eu’or’Y*

[analog plover]

Alright guys thanks for your info but this feels more like 4chan than discord now so im out. I appreciate you guys who helped/

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-agnes-tachyon-tachyon-agnes-anvil-gif-6509626087963579393

[fervent scaffold]

No need to announce your departure

Sent with love

[analog plover]

I did that specifically so no one would tag me lol

[fervent scaffold]

Love taken back

[fervent scaffold]

• another tag

[analog plover]

Ill just mute this discord for a while, I love you too btw

[fervent elm]

Ah, computers
I remember why I stopped being active in the community

[fervent scaffold]

Bottom fans

[fervent elm]

Im more of a top fan preference myself

[fervent scaffold]

I personally hate bottom mounted fans, but there is a singular build I saw where I actually didnt mind them

[brisk jolt]

now as i wait for cisco packet tracer shit to load

[fervent scaffold]

Was this thing

[brisk jolt]

msi detected nuke him

[fervent elm]

Both is nice
Esp with front and bottom intake
Good for gpu

[fervent scaffold]

Heard you like dragons, so I added dragons on my dragons

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-build-kamen-rider-cross-z-evol-cross-z-evolto-gif-5068415518095923548

type shit

[fervent scaffold]

Does msi make ram? Need more dragons

[fervent scaffold]

Ordering msi case, cpu cooler, and ram rn. Just for you babe

[fervent elm]

I love my internet
Constan bs

[fervent scaffold]

Xfinity FTL

[fervent elm]

Nope
Local dsl, unchanged since bush

[fervent scaffold]

C U B E

[fervent elm]

8mbps up n down baybe
Half that in reality
As unreliable as Intel gpus on linux

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-banjo-build-clown-cross-z-gif-20834514

[fervent scaffold]

Dont worry it was only $850 usd for those 3

I need $3 added to my amazon order to get free shipping. Is this what I use as an excuse for a 32” 240hz 4k oled?

[brisk jolt]

yes

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna start spamming you with cross z gifs

[fervent scaffold]

5090 at 480p

Upscaled to 1080p

Still wont run crysis

@oak vector my EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1080TI FTW3 will tho

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/reverseglaze-gif-9948558892119541219

[fervent scaffold]

Spoonful of peanut butter

Entry level am5 cpus are still fun to look at

Well duh but its still entry level in a sense

[brisk jolt]

reminder I have a fuckass build with a 7600x and b580 inside the ch160

[fervent scaffold]

CH160
C U B E

[fervent scaffold]

That 7600x is for your favorite Terra build rn

[brisk jolt]

fuckass* terra build

[fervent scaffold]

FAVORITE*****

[brisk jolt]

sybau

[fervent scaffold]

I didnt spec it

Well I mean I did. But then mostly was ignored

[brisk jolt]

Nothing beats a Jett 2 Holiday! Right now, you can save 50 pounds!

Nothing beating Jett 2 Holiday:

50 pounds next on the chopping block:

[fervent scaffold]

Lizard

[brisk jolt]

the cable is against the glass

[fervent scaffold]

Would probably work better if you backed it out a little

[brisk jolt]

physically not possible

the glass is still hitting it regardless

no

[fervent scaffold]

Straight up lie. Remove glass

[brisk jolt]

its just

not nice to look at

[brisk jolt]

nothing beats a jett2 holiday and right now you can save 50 pounds per person thats 200 off for a family of 4

[fervent scaffold]

LIZARD

Lizard deez

[brisk jolt]

.

[fervent scaffold]

Idek whose build that is ^

it was just in this chat one day so i ss it

[merry stirrup]

-this one confuses me

[merry stirrup]

looks like its probably ace's

[brisk jolt]

thats a sf850

[merry stirrup]

put it in the case brother

[brisk jolt]

the cables aint long enough lol

[merry stirrup]

no wayyy

make it be a shift power supply

[merry stirrup]

@clear radish

[merry stirrup]

this one is gross

ftw3's were good yeah

[fervent scaffold]

Thanks, really tried

Lmao. It was some junk i put my 1080ti in for fun. Glass panel wouldnt close with it in

[merry stirrup]

a sentencce that has maybe been said

[vestal granite]

yall ever think about the word headphones

2 phones, on your head. headphones.

[merry stirrup]

acrylic is terrible

you must love 100 million scratches

[fervent scaffold]

I sold it like this. With the ram in the wrong slots because I yanked out the other 2 and forgot to switch it lol

[merry stirrup]

whats the problem with glass

[vestal granite]

1 phone is a thing that communicates and connects to cellular and plays fortnite and unlocks the world's secrets but if u have 2 of them its just a thing that makes noise

it made more sense when we had landlines cause 2 of those on your head yeah basically its just a thing that converts electricity to sound right but now phone word doesnt make sense for headphones cause phones are more now u know

[brisk jolt]

KRATOS

[fervent scaffold]

BOMB

[teal orbit]

how do you break your PC case glass

[brisk jolt]

i drop a hydrogen bomb on it

[vestal granite]

its tempered just tap it with a thumb tack

[fervent scaffold]

Frisbee

[teal orbit]

That would do it

[fervent scaffold]

Tempered glass is weird because its really strong, unless you touch it just right. Like with a fine point. Its also considered safety glass because the million pieces wont injure you as bad as the giant sharp shards as normal panes would.

Also on the corners of tempered glass are like a “just right” touch

Also tempered glass has rounded edges/corners as standard that dont cut you. As standard panes arent and will cut you bad

There is your glass information for today, join back tomorrow for more

[oak vector]

😍

My evga 1650super

[fervent scaffold]

As much as I hate the 1650. Its beautiful

[fervent scaffold]

😩

[wheat void]

is this accurate? or is there nuance to it

Calculating Static Pressure at Different RPMs:
You can estimate using the square law relationship:
P₂ = P₁ × (RPM₂/RPM₁)²
For your examples at a more reasonable 1200 RPM:
Arctic P12 Pro: 6.9 × (1200/3000)² = 6.9 × 0.16 = 1.1 mm H₂O
Noctua NF-A12x25: 2.34 × (1200/1700)² = 2.34 × 0.498 = 1.17 mm H₂O

[frosty prism]

Good thing we have computers

And now those computers can almost think

[teal orbit]

they can pretend to think

they won't fool me. I know what they are.

[wheat void]

I already have the answer, the line is parabolic not linear

so even more scarier

hoping that if one can normalize static pressure ratings at rpms people actually would use outside server rooms it could actually be a useful metric

but it seems that cant be calculated outside of direct testing

the math is actually fairly close

[oak vector]

It is

This 1650s is going in my sisters optiplex rig 🫶

[left oxide]

Recommendation for a new gaming monitor? ive seen the 34" Dell Alienware AW3423DWF

[brisk jolt]

what do you want in a monitor

I just came out of a practical assessment and basically everyone got walled by 1 question being “pc no boot”

[oak vector]

What course is the assessment for?
Also how’d you answer it?

[brisk jolt]

computer maintenance

“If the PC doesnt boot and it makes a beeping sound, how do you troubleshoot it”

[left oxide]

Ive just bought a 5080 and replaced my whole pc, and i just want Oled high res quality screen after being on a Samsung 32' curved for a while. I did look at 4k screen, but i dont think ill be able to play most titles in 4k... So 1440p seemed lige more than enough. Im used to 144hz so i didnt think more than 165 hz would be required

[brisk jolt]

So we’re targetting 1440p?

Do you want 27” or 32”?

If you want curved there is indeed that alienware 34”

The endgame monitors are 4k240

[left oxide]

Yea but that a very high price, and what game would i be able to use that in 😅 this is the one im going for
https://www.proshop.dk/Skaerm/34-Dell-Alienware-AW3423DWF-3440x1440-WQHD-165Hz-Quantum-Dot-OLED-QD-OLED-USB-32-HUB-Curved/3139265

[brisk jolt]

Also, sorry for your loss buying a 5080 and not saving money with a 70Ti

[frank cypress]

kick it real hard

[brisk jolt]

Whats your current?

+What games do you play

[left oxide]

I cant find my current monitor, but its a curved 32 inch Samsung 144 1440p. I play loads of stuff, which include big aa titles aswell as indie. Ive had bad experience with the Ti series 😅 so im happy with my 5080.
I have an amd processor if that makes any difference

[brisk jolt]

Your looking at the wrong options then

you should def go for a 4k240

[left oxide]

But do i need 4K? What games can take advanges of 4K? And 240?

[brisk jolt]

Its not a matter of advantages when ur talking 4k

Just having the panel OLED while same specs is not worthwhile

Sure the 5080 is an entry level 4k card but I rather get 4k for a new display than be stuck with qhd

[left oxide]

What display would you recommend. I went for the alienware because it seemed like thats all LTT talks about, when it comes to monitors

[brisk jolt]

4k 32”

Whether its 144/165 or 240 its up to you

[left oxide]

But is there like a go to? Or should i just look around? I heard that when it comes to OLED you need to pick the QOLED

[brisk jolt]

QDOLED has better colours but will suffer with its blacks when it comes to room lightning making the blacks purple

WOLED achieves better brightness but typically comes in matte, where for OLEDs you want glossy

also avoid dirtying ur OLED to minimise the need to clean, I put it quite close to play FPS games to aim better, saliva got on it, tried to clean, even if ur careful you can leave micro scratches. Now mine has a scratch there but not noticeable during use

[brave panther]

Well that applies to all non touch displays

[brisk jolt]

it isnt a big problem if its matte

the glass they use for these monitors are shit

we need some manufacturer to start using gorilla glass or smth

[brave panther]

If you saw what Hr ladies do you would disagree

[brisk jolt]

?????

[left oxide]

Okay so Q or W doesnt really matter that much?

[brisk jolt]

read what i said

[minor herald]

hellooooooo

[frosty prism]

No

[clear radish]

Whar

[left oxide]

Oh yes of course. Didnt mean like doesnt matter, but your opting for W since you want better brightness than colors? My room can get completely dark, so Q might be better for me? Dont you think.

[brisk jolt]

to the latter, yes

For me, Im either waiting for a manufacturer to use better glass or just get a 32” and put it further back

[left oxide]

Thank you. Ill have to look out for a 4kQOLED

[livid flame]

5080 is an entry level 4k card? There’s like 2 GPUs better than it. If that’s what you call entry level…

[brisk jolt]

did i stutter

[livid flame]

I guess the rest of the world is wrong calling it a good 4k card and all those recommending 5070ti’s for 4k entry level are wrong

[brisk jolt]

4k60 is pretty entry to me unless ur definition of entry is 4k30

[livid flame]

Depends if you’re talking native performance

As 4K its seen as using upscaling is a necessity and you don’t rate by native, generally speaking.

If you’re rating by native I guess crack on. Although realistically, it’s not entry level by any stretch with the way gamers play in 4k

[brisk jolt]

same guy who argued about DLSS and MFG btw

[livid flame]

Different levels for different people. I told you this. You still can’t comprehend complexity I guess

[brisk jolt]

lol

mf argued against these features now he’s arguing them as a “oh so ofc they gon use this”

[livid flame]

You’re one very angry little individual.

[brisk jolt]

keep whiffing that copium buddy

[cerulean mason]

So i had this issue where my ethernet would disconnect and go from 1gbps to 100mbps and then it wouldn't disconnect again, i got a new ethernet cable a new router and latest drivers, now it stayed at 1gbps for like 36 hours and it randomly started happening again and its forcing it to 100mbps again, i turned off all the bs powersaving stuff in settings, forced it to 1gbps full duplex.

[turbid locust]

Just found a 4080 Super FE on FBM for $360. What are the odds the core is still on the PCB?

[turbid locust]

Yeah I had no major issues with my 5070Ti at 4K. DLSS is great.

[turbid locust]

Yeah 4K gamers are always gonna be using features like this lol. Even with my 5090 I’m still turning on DLSS Quality. No reason not to tbh. Makes it a little easier on my gpu with virtually zero visual hit.

[left oxide]

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1304549/gaming/spiludstyr/gamingskaerme/asus-32-4k-gamingskaerm-rog-swift-pg32ucdm

What do ppl think about this monitor?

[turbid locust]

Looks good but probably overpaying because “Asus” lol

[left oxide]

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1309532/gaming/spiludstyr/gamingskaerme/samsung-32-odyssey-oled-g8-gamingskaerm-ls32dg802

This seems like the same thing, but cheaper

[cyan canopy]

quick tip. stay away from the curved monitors from samsung

the glue on the top of the monitors are prone to let go of the display

[frosty prism]

Rip

[lunar comet]

Shame LianLi stopped production of their TL series. Im missing 2 more 💀. Well on that note, do you guys recommend any good 140 fans?

[livid flame]

4K is just 4k yknow. I’ve always stated purchasing a graphics card and expecting MFG to do the work is a big no no. Upscaling is necessary for the experience you want at 4k in particular. Like I used 1440p with upscaling, even frame gen on occasion too. However when one of the kids broke my monitor I had a choice and I actually went back to 1080p. Not because I wanted to be cheap or because 1440p couldn’t run well enough for me. I play competitive games and OSRS so 1080p just works better. I applaud anyone playing comp games at 4k though.. or osrs like, that shit is built for super high sens and it’s just not me 😂

I actually ended up after 1 year on 1440p of using super scaling to downgrade resolutions to 1080p as sharp as they could so it was just a waste tbh

[heavy mantle]

doesn’t osrs like runes on a potato

I dont see why people nowadays would struggle to run it in 4k?

[frosty prism]

guess the specs

hiny its 11k NOK so 1080USD

ffs they using a fake pic

[heavy mantle]

Yikes

[heavy mantle]

Ah yes an amd cooler on lga 1700

[turbid locust]

Hyper 212 in 2025

[frosty prism]

not sure why but komplett loves it to death

[turbid locust]

Cheap and not stock

[frosty prism]

they do not get stock

they ofc only buy tray

[heavy mantle]

Pay like 20 bucks more and a thermaltake 120 se will be infinitely better

[turbid locust]

Yeah that’s not what makes money

[frosty prism]

thermaltake 120 se?

[heavy mantle]

Wha

[wraith steeple]

Wrong thermal

[heavy mantle]

Oh

Ig you know what i mean lol

Tho the hyper is used jn prebuilts that would give off cool rgb gamer vibes ig

[turbid locust]

Kinda unrelated but why has nobody made a line of CPU coolers that all use the same mounting mechanism? Do you know how nice it would be to upgrade your cpu cooler and not have to swap mounting hardware?

Would be fkin sick dude

[frosty prism]

well amd

if you have the right cooler i think the brackets are the same from like FM2 to am5

[shell void]

noctua

[frosty prism]

you know the outer clips

[turbid locust]

Noctua?

[frosty prism]

i have seen am3 coolers on am4

just people using coolers from am3

[livid flame]

It does. I don’t play full screen though, so on 4k it would be fkn tiny in window.

Was only just doable in 1440p tbh

[left oxide]

@frosty prism you helped me alot building my pc, and i trust your knowledge... Is there any thought on these two displays?

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1309532/gaming/spiludstyr/gamingskaerme/samsung-32-odyssey-oled-g8-gamingskaerm-ls32dg802#

And

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1304549/gaming/spiludstyr/gamingskaerme/asus-32-4k-gamingskaerm-rog-swift-pg32ucdm

[frosty prism]

bet they use the same panel

[topaz veldt]

wow @turbid locust

[left oxide]

So same thing? Just alot cheaper the Samsung?

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

are we fucking serious

[topaz veldt]

I dunno if this is an error or wtf

[wraith steeple]

A non FE 5090 for $2000. And from Asus no less

[topaz veldt]

Right, but the wild part is that its MSRP is $2759

[turbid locust]

There’s 5 in stock at my MC

[topaz veldt]

Sounds like you're going to do a return/exchange

[turbid locust]

Of fucking course this would happen

[brisk jolt]

blud just got omega juked

[topaz veldt]

There's something fucked here - because its $2759 on ASUS, thats the MSRP for that SKU#

[turbid locust]

MC only holds pickups for 3 days

Meaning I’d have to drive up before work

[shell void]

👁️

[brisk jolt]

cmon mac its $700

[topaz veldt]

but tariffs111!!

[brisk jolt]

or was it 600 i forgor

[wraith steeple]

Only one left at the Madison Heights Micro Center

[topaz veldt]

yeah they must be purging that SKU

[turbid locust]

duuuuuuuuudeeeee

[frosty prism]

they both have their pros and cons but i suspect they use the same panel anyways, if you wanna be a bit cheaper than the samsung should not be a different experience than the asus while also having built in smart features

[turbid locust]

Actually annoyed af rn

[brisk jolt]

2 weeks after I bought my 5090 the AMI only dropped $60 kek

[topaz veldt]

call out lol

[brisk jolt]

No other 5090 price drops

[topaz veldt]

Yah its uniquely that SKU

[turbid locust]

I can’t dude lmfao

[wraith steeple]

Though MC's stock isn't always accurate so it's probably long gone now

[topaz veldt]

yeah especially at this hour

[turbid locust]

I would have to drive up, time it perfectly with them opening, do the swap, and immediately drive back and go to work

[shell void]

the fat bald spraytanned clown with venous insufficiency is the cause of me having to wait until October and pay more for the XG32UCWMG

[topaz veldt]

Sounds fine

[brisk jolt]

Its time to get those soft tires out

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[shell void]

it’s true

[topaz veldt]

oook

so anyway, back here on earth

[turbid locust]

It would deadass save me $450

[brisk jolt]

do it mac

go grab ur money

[topaz veldt]

for sure

I can't figure out if it indicates a 5090 Super coming or if they just haven't moved that PN# much

it would get me $1000 lol

[shell void]

very low chance of 5090S/5090Ti launching IMO

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust lol

[brisk jolt]

Have fun with the MSRP tuf decision guys

[topaz veldt]

Its not MSRP

it's way below MSRP

[brisk jolt]

As in the 5090 msrp-

[topaz veldt]

Yeah but thats not how MSRPs work

its MSRP is $2759

[brisk jolt]

Im not going over this again thanks xd

[topaz veldt]

Economics is hard

[brisk jolt]

Only MSRP 5090 Ive found was the Gamerock

[frosty prism]

wat

[topaz veldt]

what

[brisk jolt]

now doesnt exist

[frosty prism]

the rtx 5090 MSRP is meant to be 2000USD

[topaz veldt]

no its not

that's the Nvidia 5090 Founders Edition SKU MSRP

I dunno why people struggle so hard for this

[frosty prism]

and that is not a rtx 5090?????

[topaz veldt]

So Nvidia, who makes the core only, gets to set the base price of what it will cost an AIB to assemble a card?

[turbid locust]

Stock number went down by 2 in the time we talked about it so I got scared

[topaz veldt]

No, the Nvidia produced 5090 Founders Edition that you can hardly get has an MSRP of $1999... the manufacturer is Nvidia, so their MSRP is $1999

[frosty prism]

the rtx 5090 MSRP is still 2000 it does not matter if asus decides to make a card of gold and list it at half a million and calling that msrp

[topaz veldt]

That is not how any of this works

The Mk5 Toyota Supra is 90% BMW parts. Toyota does not set the MSRP to the BMW Z4 which is the same car, essentially.

This is standard economics, please gentlepeople read a book

[frosty prism]

that is not even the MSRP you said before

[turbid locust]

sigh I guess I gotta swap 5090’s tomorrow

[topaz veldt]

Nvidia, who produces the core for themselves at zero mark up and can determine their entire solution pricing is not the baseline for everyone else

[left oxide]

Thank you! Is there a completely third option u would choose?

[topaz veldt]

Yes, because I don't memorize every SKU MSRP, but its not the Founders MSRP because its not a fucking Founders lol straw grabber

I would love it

[frosty prism]

i only said rtx 5090 MSRP was 2000

[topaz veldt]

its not

There is no universal RTX 5090 part

[frosty prism]

is the core the same as a 2000$ FE card and a 4000$ rtx 5090 whatever brand

[topaz veldt]

The Nvidia Founders edition 5090 MSRP is $1999

[frosty prism]

yes that is the one i am refering to

[brisk jolt]

5nail’s reference of MSRP is different from the standard referring to what was advertised- he’s referring to more real world pricing for aib cards

[topaz veldt]

the engine in the Toyota Supra is the same as the M440 why isn't the Supra $75k?

[shell void]

the original MSRP for the 5090 TUF non-OC was $2450

i don’t think it ever sold at that

[brisk jolt]

it never did

[topaz veldt]

Its almost like there's an entire assembly around the core/engine that costs a manufacturer money

[shell void]

i wanted a FE this gen but nvidia only shipped like five of them to the us

the rest fell off of a truck in china

[topaz veldt]

but but but MSRP

[brisk jolt]

I want a FE to go into a SFF build- They ship 0 here

[livid flame]

A better analogy in Europe would be the VW Golf and the Seat Ibiza. They’re 100% mechanically the same car, including the chassis. They just have a different styling and design of the skin, exterior and internal non mechanical parts

[turbid locust]

Hey guys remember a couple days ago when we were joking about going to get my 2nd 5090

[wraith steeple]

[frosty prism]

so a gpu is a car is what you are saying

[brisk jolt]

Theres ur 2nd 5090 LOL

[frosty prism]

most brands now a days are stuck only to one core

[turbid locust]

Like I gotta do it that’s $450

[livid flame]

To put it in car terms. Both 5090s are like a be golf/seat Ibiza. The same but not

[frosty prism]

your not gonna see a rtx 5090 sapphire

[turbid locust]

That’s a whole 9800X3D

[frosty prism]

its also not the same cooler or PCB

[brisk jolt]

Thats basically 300 pounds off a Jett2 Holiday for a family of 6

[livid flame]

A 5090 sapphire would be sick though

[frosty prism]

i bet nvidias design costs 2x more to make than most other AIBs

[livid flame]

Well yeah it has more parts

And longer assembly time

[frosty prism]

the main issue now has just been making the cores

and as economics 101 are tons of demand no stock price goes sky high

stock comes back and its finally able to hit MSRP

[livid flame]

Unless you lock it in place like an FE

But if you have none of that stock… then it’s the Wild West

[wraith steeple]

Remember when XFX made cards for Nvidia? Pepperidge Farms remembers

[edgy laurel]

i had one

[random flame]

I have never even seen, let alone heard of that before.

That's news to me.

[frosty prism]

even if a gpu is not sold at MSRP it does not change what the MSRP is

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price

[livid flame]

Economics 101 if you have more than 1 5090. You’ve got more money and less sense

[frosty prism]

Suggested

[edgy laurel]

Originally, XFX produced only Nvidia graphics cards; in 2009, XFX began manufacturing AMD (known as ATI at the time) graphics cards.[3] XFX continued selling mid-range Nvidia cards through early 2010,[4] then ceased producing any Nvidia graphics cards in October 2010

[random flame]

I wonder what made them switch at the time...

[frosty prism]

i cant understand how the first thing a person think when they think MSRP and gpus is cars

[brisk jolt]

corpos out there with multiple TRs and 6000 BW: I guess I have negative sense

[brisk jolt]

because men

[edgy laurel]

some hints in here I think https://www.techpowerup.com/118821/xfx-abandons-geforce-gtx-400-series?cp=4

[brisk jolt]

“XFX is getting cozier with AMD by the day, which is an eyesore for NVIDIA” made me chuckle

[edgy laurel]

the 200+ comments on that article

or is that 200+ pages, dunno

[frosty prism]

does nvidia have any exclusivity thing now

or at least something like cheaper per core if you only make gpus for nvidia

[random flame]

Hmmm... Interesting.

[topaz veldt]

I can't believe you're confused by any of this

[frosty prism]

does BMW or whatever you said have a MSRP for the car their engines get put in

[topaz veldt]

Yes

And their engine has an MSRP

And they don't tell Toyota what to price a car with the same BMW engine in it

Because they don't control their product line....

[frosty prism]

and the main part of a car is a engine and only the engine?

[topaz veldt]

And msrps only apply to a part number not a universal platform

[brisk jolt]

or do you want me to explain in growtopia terms

[topaz veldt]

Lol you are aware there is more to a PCB than just the core right?

[frosty prism]

no shit but its not most of the price

[topaz veldt]

Lol

I'm arguing with a dude who tries to flip computers for like 30 bucks. What is the point of this?

[frosty prism]

what does that have to do with anything

[topaz veldt]

You were demonstrating you have no understanding of how manufacturing or economics works

[frosty prism]

what

me trying to make money the best i can while having fun is not understanding economics

i also understand a car is not a gpu even tho some have one in them

[topaz veldt]

Foolish

It's almost like cars from different manufacturers use the same core components just like how gpus from different manufacturers use the same core components and then the manufacturers are left to price their product based on their supply chain costs and the scalability of their production lines

So it's almost like two cars with the same engine and essentially the same components wrapped around. It might have two different MSRP

[brisk jolt]

Take into account the base price of the 5090- everybody wants a piece of that pie

[topaz veldt]

Just like how the founding source, hence founders edition might have a different price than a third-party aib who has to design a cooler, a circuit board, source, its memory, components, etc

Ps this is not a novel concept. This is literally how things are made

[frosty prism]

the issue is, nvidia are the only ones that actually make a desktop core like the 5090, with engies or other parts you can just source them from other places if the price is too high

[shell void]

$2000 is a very fair price for a 5090FE

[frosty prism]

its also 400$ over what the 4090 MSRP was

so yea 2k would make sense

[shell void]

yeah it’s a lot more GPU than a 4090

[frosty prism]

like now a lot like A LOT of people interested in AI are looking at intel gpus as nvidia is unable to hit MSRP and stock, even at that price other are still not too happy

[shell void]

steveGN asked everyone he spoke to in china about the intel arc cards and they all laughed and said nobody wants that shit

[frosty prism]

we are getting competition we will see brands try to hit lower prices to entice more people buying products as way more sales over a few sales but your making tons from each sales can be better

tbf its still not really out

[brisk jolt]

And people still complain its a 4090Ti when its a pretty equal trade 25% increase everywhere- price, specs, power, and vram

[frosty prism]

but it is nice to see amd ai gpus actually selling

[frosty prism]

50% the vram for kinda the same TDP and ofc a pretty nice performance jump

[shell void]

in some games it’s 50% more powerful, and even more when using RTX HDR or rendering high resolution VR

[brisk jolt]

sim where did u shit 2x from

[frosty prism]

i meant 50%

[brisk jolt]

where are you still shitting 50% from

[shell void]

[frosty prism]

eh more like 40

4GB off

i think i was thinking of a 5080

[brisk jolt]

Intel B60 with 48GB apparently launched for $1200

[frosty prism]

das is 2X

[shell void]

try a 4th time

[brisk jolt]

Ok imma wait

I was gonna say it

[frosty prism]

i really need more sleep its just 8 more so 25%

[shell void]

three more weeks until iphone 17 pro and airpods pro 3

[shell void]

try a 5th time

[brisk jolt]

LMAO

[brisk jolt]

yo what since when did airpods p3 get announced

[wraith steeple]

[frosty prism]

33

[brisk jolt]

My P2s casing are getting falling apart rn lmfao

[frosty prism]

there we go

[brisk jolt]

try a 6th time

[frosty prism]

now you need to do math

[shell void]

5th times the charm 🔥

[shell void]

they didn’t

[brisk jolt]

No, its 33.33333334% with the 4 just being rounded up

[shell void]

i have my ways

[frosty prism]

well no its 3 for ∞

[brisk jolt]

I put 4 as a roundup else 3 would as you said, go on infinitely

[frosty prism]

anyways, bump in vram and bump in performance for no real power use change

well eh kinda

how many 4090 AIBs did go for the TDP

[brisk jolt]

Both are on TSMC 4N so dk what you really expect, Ada was pretty specced out architecture wise

[frosty prism]

i swear with 5000 AIBs have started trying to hit what nvidia is doing as hard as possible

[shell void]

reflex 2 release finally maybe?

[frosty prism]

i thought it was already out

[shell void]

no

[frosty prism]

rip

[brisk jolt]

Its only out for like valorant and few games iirc?

[frosty prism]

i swear they did the trailer for it a long long time ago

[shell void]

it’s not out for any game publicly afaik

they demoed it with 50 series and then it didn’t come out

[frosty prism]

7 months ago

[brisk jolt]

They did the trailer with 50 series launch

[shell void]

geforce gamers will be at a legitimate advantage with half as much input latency 🔥

[brisk jolt]

With reflex 2 coming out even on older gen RTX cards they are actually aging like wine

[frosty prism]

the amount of ghosting

[shell void]

i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 40 series + only

[shell void]

blablabla half the input latency cope mald and seethe

[brisk jolt]

No they apparently want it for 20 as well

[frosty prism]

if you smoke screen yourself it aint gonna be much help

[brisk jolt]

ok afaik R2 is on the finals and valorant

[shell void]

i can tell you that it’s not

ive been playing valorant with mac every other day

[shell void]

not publicly anyway

[frosty prism]

first 50

[brisk jolt]

I was getting like 4-7ms PCL on val, Ive yet to get a sample from my friends

[frosty prism]

o wow they were using a 7950X3D for testing

[shell void]

they should make it GB202 exclusive

[frosty prism]

only since that is what you have

i bet its not out yet to make sure they do not do a amd

[brisk jolt]

lowk right if I were to get a black 5090 I wouldve gone with the tuf like icl

[frosty prism]

but it looks like it need to be built well into the game

[topaz veldt]

No, its exactly the same. If Gigabyte wanted to make a GPU they can choose a 5090 core or a 9070 XT core. But once they're designing for it they can't just... switch. Just like Toyota building the Supra around the BMW B58, which comes with the ECU, all the electronics, the gauge cluster, the transmission, turbo, intercooler, everthing is a package. You can't just... "I tihnk I'd rather have a GM engine in this now" - its an insane production line and sourcing issue, its not what you're talking about at all, actually. Its very much the same exact situation.

[shell void]

don’t worry i will make the 5090 master black look good

i have to wait until october though because of.. market uncertainty

[topaz veldt]

You are saying "RTX 5090" has an MSRP and it doesn't - there is no "reference design" there is a Founders Edition that Nvidia chose to make/sell/distribute at very low volume. It is NOT a reference card. If you have watched any video @frosty prism you'd know that Nvidia spent (possibly for nought) oodles of money and time making their specialized PCB and coolers. That GPU is not "MSRP" its what Nvidia sells, basically, as a promo.

[brisk jolt]

I like the gigabyte design not putting walls in between each fan

Makes the design cleaner and more “flowthrough-ish”

[frosty prism]

well yes like i said the FE costs way more than what other AIBs coolers do

[topaz veldt]

Yes and the misnomer is that its "MSRP" - its not

It's MSRP is $1999 decided by the manufacturer, Nvidia.

But Nvidia is the ONLY producer of 5090s who don't actually make their money by selling the GPU

[brisk jolt]

They only had to do that single design for the FE- Other brands did multiple and still have to account for their own profit margins, distributor/retailer margins

[topaz veldt]

They make their money by selling the core and tech to AIBs

So, again, there is no "MSRP 5090" universally. Every SKU has an MSRP.

You can disagree with the value behind a GPU compared to an FE, but considering an FE is basically, still, unobtainable....the concept doesn't even make senseto compare a SKU to SKU vs SKU to "Platform" -- just like a car line that shares an engine/drivetrain as another

[frosty prism]

if someone else were to make something that could compete with the 5090 if it was priced lower would people be more interested in that instead, i only see it as nvidia having no competitions in that space to force AIBs to try and hit lower price goals, the AIBs only get more money as they cant make enough to sell to everyone so if someone is able to do even more why not and they have no choice as there is nothing like it.

[topaz veldt]

That's an entirely different conversation

Do you understand that MSRP follows a partnumber/SKU and not a product line?

[frosty prism]

and the 5090 core is not that?

[topaz veldt]

... you must be intentionally trying to be obtuse

That is the only explanation

[frosty prism]

Suggested

[topaz veldt]

Yep

Not "baseline"

[austere isle]

How much would this PC be worth?
Graphics card - RX 6600 XT
CPU - Ryzen 5 7600x
Ram - 16Gb DDR5
Motherboard - B650M-H/M.2+
Storage - 1TB M.2 Ultra fast
Power Supply - 600w Bronze plus Gamemax
PC Case - CiT Level 1 Micro-ATX

[topaz veldt]

not "what everyone else should charge"

[frosty prism]

yes and what does nvidia suggested AIBs sell their cards for

[topaz veldt]

They can't

That would be illegal

Which is why its by SKU and not platform

[wraith steeple]

Fuck me sideways, is this khara still going?

[oblique nymph]

whats aib

[topaz veldt]

lol

[shell void]

there is no global 5090 aib msrp, that’s the whole point of snails conversation

[topaz veldt]

I have no idea why people are so brainrotted over this topic

we need to apply critical thinking

lol

@digital hinge so what 5090 does Gigabyte offer at "MSRP" (lol)

[wraith steeple]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

[topaz veldt]

since Nvidia requires it

[brisk jolt]

the closest match would be the fuckin windforce lmfao

i said closest-

[topaz veldt]

And it's not even "MSRP" by these peoples definition

So like dude just broadcasted a statement - which is wrong - but how did they even get there, justify it.

[brisk jolt]

nvidia literally stated "Starting from"

[topaz veldt]

And Nvidia is willing to sell THEIR 5090 at a loss, likely, because that's not their revenue stream

[brisk jolt]

This "Forced MSRP" thing isnt necessarily at 2000 at all

[topaz veldt]

AIBs cannot afford to sell them at Nvidia-native pricing, because they BUY FROM NVIDIA

[shell void]

the models with AIB RRPs are 5060, 5060Ti, and 5070Ti because there are no founders editions for those cards, but even those are not mandated afaik

[turbid locust]

If $1999 was the most they were allowed to charge we’d have some boring, basic ass cards

[frosty prism]

what is stopping every company that sells 5090 cards from rising up the price at the same time

[turbid locust]

with that being said $1999 TUF LMAO

[green marsh]

when youtube shorts hit you with simpletons who say things like this. This kind of people are the ideal customer for any company

[shell void]

they did

[frosty prism]

but why not anymore

[shell void]

they hit the ceiling of what people were willing to pay

[wraith steeple]

Short form content was a mistake

[shell void]

some wealthy people couldn’t help themselves and grabbed them for like $6500 in bundles, but most 5090 buyers decided that ~$3000 is their stopping point

[frosty prism]

if the companies just kept them at the raised price there would be no choice

[brisk jolt]

I'd also cop if I could tbh

[shell void]

+-500 depending on features and design

[turbid locust]

Returning my $2449 gigabyte

[frosty prism]

what would be stopping some company from just pricing their card at lets say 1800

[green marsh]

i mean "what mac aws best for me this eyar". Why do people need to buy a new Mac every year. For majority of mac users, whatever mac they pick is going to be OK, as long as they don't run out of RAM/storage space

[turbid locust]

business

why sell at 1800 when they’ll obviously sell at 2600

That’s just braindead

[frosty prism]

but they could sell a whole hell of a lot more

[brisk jolt]

I'd personally just grab and keep since I already have a AMI, but ya bottom line model for bottom line model while getting back ur moneh

[edgy laurel]

/r/TVTooHigh leaking. thank god the commenters understood the assignment https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield6/comments/1mtgbjl/beta_is_still_on/

[shell void]

this pains me

[turbid locust]

I’d argue the TUF is better than most of the entry level 5090s

[frosty prism]

that would then crash right into what michael already said, people are not actually willing to buy it at those prices

[edgy laurel]

very michael scott-esque

[shell void]

real

[shell void]

people are willing to pay $2600

[frosty prism]

like if they price it at lower prices more people will go maybe i should pay a bit more for a 5090 over a 5080

[brisk jolt]

I meant bottom line of the brand's lineup, since prime doesnt exist for a xx90 sku

[shell void]

the market decided that the stable 5090 price is $2400-3400

[frosty prism]

some people

[turbid locust]

Fair

[turbid locust]

Who’s to say they want to? lmao

[brisk jolt]

I'd take the TUF over the windforce actually, the fan design is nicer

[frosty prism]

their investors?

nvidia

[brisk jolt]

Plus the windforce has the huge heatsink sticking out

[turbid locust]

Unfortunately the TUF is chonkier so it won’t fit in my A3 without me swapping some parts but yolo

[brisk jolt]

Get that A3 out and get a big chungus for a case

[turbid locust]

I’m in a 216X for now and will be for awhile as I’m swapping to an ATX board

[shell void]

i think Dough is actually dead now

took them long enough to bleed out

[brisk jolt]

im excited for the airpods P3 ngl, might just be degradation but I want something better

[topaz veldt]

...nothing, that's why they were all $3000+. Its a free market. PNY had their fucking base ass 5090s are like $2800

[brisk jolt]

hivemind

[turbid locust]

Actually I think I could make the TUF and my 1000e work but I couldn’t use an AIO

[frosty prism]

and that did not have anything to do with low 5090 die production with massive demand

[edgy laurel]

i feel like this could have been done cleaner

5090FE in a G5 case

[shell void]

that’s clean but not aesthetically pleasing

[edgy laurel]

fair

[topaz veldt]

What are you actually arguing? What is your stance? On one hand you're saying MSRP (universally) is $1999 that Nvidia sells their FE for. On the other hand you are saying that shortages are why we have $3000 5090s. Which is it?

[brisk jolt]

I hate how odd the 5090FE with its 2 slot cooler is in full ATX builds- unless its vertically mounted

[shell void]

yeah it looks lonely

[edgy laurel]

i'm not sure if the other side panel is removable on G5 cases, or if thats just also the motherboard tray

[brisk jolt]

I think its passable with matx, its really for ITX tho imo

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt that best buy thing still seems to work just fine.

[topaz veldt]

which one

[edgy laurel]

i keep seeing posts along the lines of "didn't think it would work"

[topaz veldt]

oh just walking in/

[edgy laurel]

the FE order

[topaz veldt]

ya ya

[brisk jolt]

FE is nice but getting one is like trying to navigate through a highly anticipated concert to get tickets

[edgy laurel]

well, apparently not

if in the US and near a Best Buy

[topaz veldt]

They still have to order it

I don't think they are on hand

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

Ok

[steady wyvern]

think it'd be worth getting a asus 5080 prime at MSRP or wait to see whats going on with the super refresh?

[brisk jolt]

if ur a 1440p guy just get it and move on

[steady wyvern]

got a 4k monitor not too long ago

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-mood-me-face-gif-7842240

[brisk jolt]

DLSS and MFG would be ur best friend for 4k assuming demanding titles

[shell void]

i would grab a card now

the super refresh is going to hold higher prices because of their increased vram, especially for a few months after launch

[frosty prism]

5090 MSRP is 2759$

[shell void]

sim you are making me feel like this gif that snail posted

[frosty prism]

are you saying snail is a liar

he was the one who said it?

[brisk jolt]

he was referring to the tuf on asus's website

[brave panther]

what the hell is that carbon fiber wrapped mx master?

[frosty prism]

yea me too??

[quick skiff]

is a racign sim cpu or gpu intensive

[brisk jolt]

which

[quick skiff]

good question

[brisk jolt]

.

[quick skiff]

idk like forza

[brisk jolt]

w h i c h f o r z a

[quick skiff]

horizon

[brisk jolt]

its mixed

[quick skiff]

can the rx 9060xt run it at 1080p 320hz

[brisk jolt]

if you have a 9800x3d sure

why do u even want 320hz for racing in the first place anyway

[quick skiff]

ryzne 7 5800xt

[quick skiff]

i play esport titles normally

[brisk jolt]

lets go 320hz for an arcade racer

[quick skiff]

: )

[edgy laurel]

Already been shared in general terms, but there are some more specifics here with a list of drives that have and haven't exhibited problems. Takes a minute or two to understand the test data. https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

[brisk jolt]

microsoft try not to break something with their updates challenge

[edgy laurel]

maybe chill with any large writes for now

that list of drives is by no means comprehensive so there really is no telling what is/isn't affected

[topaz veldt]

You are like 1200ms from being the only person on my block list simply out of ignorant shitposting

[frosty prism]

i think someone in TS already have this issue

[brave panther]

i have this from last week but i dont know if its related or random occurance

[frosty prism]

i hope its just read only mode and not actually the NAND being dead

[brave panther]

no its dead jim

[frosty prism]

how old was the drive?

[brave panther]

device is still under warranty

[brave panther]

we have live backup in place so no user data is lost

[frosty prism]

my best guess for the issue is windows trying use as little ram as possible and when you get something with HBM i suspect it thinks its getting more ram than windows is giving it maybe, i dono

[frosty prism]

i really need to set it back up

[brave panther]

being able to reinstall peoples device whenever is great

[frosty prism]

ye

imagine the laptops with soldered storage

[brave panther]

no value lost, it was already trash

[frosty prism]

there goes every mac

good thing they are not windows

[brave panther]

not every mac has it soldered

[frosty prism]

yea about change it to modern

[brave panther]

more like entry level

[frosty prism]

i still remember videos of people replacing HDDs inside macs with a SSD and having to add in trim

modern mac laptops

[turbid locust]

@edgy laurel have you seen where you can look up your Weekend 1 stats of the BF6 beta lol

[edgy laurel]

i saw someone post about that but didn't look into it

i'll claim ignorance there, better off not knowing

ok i caved, and I wish I hadn't

[oak vector]

[frosty prism]

i so badly wanna play arc raiders again

[turbid locust]

Not bad

[edgy laurel]

where are the important stats, like points captured 😆

[brisk jolt]

jesus christ 1.99

[turbid locust]

Idk how assault is my most played I feel like I played Engi way more but

[turbid locust]

honestly I expected higher ngl

[edgy laurel]

I went and did the challenges for the other 3 classes this past weekend

[turbid locust]

I played like 3 matches the second weekend and got dumpster’d

[edgy laurel]

finished all challeneges but 2, cba to capture Rush/Breakthrough points

[turbid locust]

Breakthrough is one of the gamemodes of all time

[raven citrus]

is there anyway to fix a joycon witha broken bumper button

[edgy laurel]

whats wild is while this game may be great once finally launched, I think its making me appreciate the 2042 maps

[frosty prism]

broken how

[raven citrus]

the bumper button clicks but no registers press

[frosty prism]

could be a dead button

[edgy laurel]

maybe something in there https://www.ifixit.com/Search?query=joycon&doctype=guide

[raven citrus]

it was working 3 months ago and i just let it sit on my shelf from then

but now it doesnt work

[shell void]

it would’ve been 2.10 if not for that game we played last night fr

[edgy laurel]

well every guide imaginable is on that link, and i'm sure they even have replacement parts

[turbid locust]

Nah that’s only weekend 1 stats. I went positive in that match last night lol

[frosty prism]

this one looks right
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+fix+stuck+Joy-Con+Triggers/157293

[edgy laurel]

now i wanna see weekend 2 stats

[shell void]

i think 2/3rd of my kills in that one match we played were just the tank gun

[turbid locust]

probably had a .4 K/D weekend 2

Oh guilty I have a clip to show you. I spawned literally 1.5ft behind an enemy last night.

[edgy laurel]

the mounted .50 on the tanks/IFV's is deadly

[shell void]

it’s op

[edgy laurel]

i really hope they add a test range like BF4, i wanna figure out the helicopters

[final glacier]

https://videocardz.com/newz/colorful-shows-off-igame-shadow-ddr5-on-ryzen-7-9800x3d-running-at-9600-mt-s-with-oc

[turbid locust]

@edgy laurel

[turbid locust]

1.35v SOC

degradation territory

also 30 mins of MemTestPro lmao

but yeah that chip is probably just giga binned

3600Mhz UCLK is kinda nuts. Wonder if he's at that high vSOC just for cl24

[edgy laurel]

LMAO yeah that probably shouldn’t happen!

[shell void]

holy optimal

timmyjoetech posted a new video 👁️

[topaz veldt]

this is like unicorn level CPU binning

[final glacier]

wonder how many they tested to find that one

[turbid locust]

it's also 1.35v SOC lol

[topaz veldt]

lol that too

I personally don't think 1.3-1.35v killed the CPUs

[turbid locust]

But I wonder how much of that is to just slam primaries

[topaz veldt]

I think it was possibly just over target stuff

[shell void]

1.35 is probably fine if they think 1.3 24/7 for years is fine

[turbid locust]

I just wanna know more about that kit. it's a 6400cl28 1.4v kit which is technically better than the 600c26 1.4v gskill yeah?

[shell void]

i could run 6600g1 if i could do like 1.32vsoc but my chip isnt stable with 2200FCLK so its kinda pointless

[turbid locust]

I think I find out if my 7700x can do 6200 at 1.35vsoc lmao

[turbid locust]

must collect all god bins

[shell void]

i need 32gb 1r godbin

[cerulean cosmos]

@merry stirrup @fervent elm "a Macliberty Adapter, computer accessory specifically designed to connect vintage Apple Macintosh computers to standard VGA monitors"

[edgy laurel]

yep

[cerulean cosmos]

weird but very smart

[brisk jolt]

[hollow hull]

that does work, but it prevents the CPU from boosting to a higher clock speed

it's a good enough solution for laptops with very bad cooling

[frank zealot]

a laptop reaching 90c+

Working as intended

[turbid locust]

They’re China only ffs

[topaz veldt]

because its too expensive to bin here lol

gotta get those sweat shops staring at benchmark screens

[teal orbit]

when you make the CPU slower it gets cooler :supershocked:

[vestal granite]

there is a wasp in my home and i am trying to be merciful

[merry stirrup]

interesting, very wide lookin but i guess its the perspective, neat

[pure garnet]

boba

[teal orbit]

hello

[merry stirrup]

ur blue

when did this happen

[pure garnet]

couple days ago

[merry stirrup]

🤝

i havent been charged for floatplane in months

[teal orbit]

kyoko being an ltt fan explains everything

[pure garnet]

you’re one to talk

[merry stirrup]

indeed

[teal orbit]

I am not an ltt fan unfortunately

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[pure garnet]

mom van

[wraith steeple]

Me and Michael first got FP at the same time

[merry stirrup]

did not take me long to copy the swag

[frank zealot]

then why the fuck are you on the ltt discord

[teal orbit]

fun

[frank zealot]

"I don't like these people, I'm gonna go join their discord to be a problem!"

[teal orbit]

I'm not a problem

[spare tinsel]

whats the difference between 8400f and 7500f

[loud depot]

found gigabyte rx 7600 at 160e

[green marsh]

to be fair, for some years now "every mac" also has TB3/USB4, so while limited internal store is annoying, you can get pretty good external storage for them

[loud depot]

is that a good price

[edgy laurel]

8400f is an old Intel chip, 7500f is a much less old AMD chip. Lets make sure you have the correct two chips first

[floral spear]

I like these people! I'm not going to join their discord to be a good guy!

[green marsh]

also today a friend dropped a list of components he wants to sell, seems like i might have scored 2x32GB DDR4 SODIMM, 2x16GB DDR4 SODIMM and 1x8GB DDR4 sodimm for 160 euros total. which is around like 60% of what a new 2x32GB DDR4 kit sells right now ;D

[brave panther]

no, both are amd

[green marsh]

i don't think 8400F exists on Intel side. i5-8400 didn't had F afaik

[brave panther]

intel 8400f does not exist

[floral spear]

It was revealed to me in a dream

[loud depot]

should i get this instead of the b580 (at 280e)

[green marsh]

8400F i think has worse lanes because of the APU design

and less cache because of the APU design

[brave panther]

worse lanes and less cache

[edgy laurel]

half the cache

[frank zealot]

Ryzen? The 8400f is garbage

[frank zealot]

8400f also exists as amd

and it's just as trash tier as the 8400g

[merry stirrup]

(there is no 8400f on intel)

[frank zealot]

(now, if you ask me "WHY TF does that exist?!?!" I can't answer that, it's truly a pile of bullshit cpu)

[merry stirrup]

(theres a 9400F, which was very popular once upon a time)

[green marsh]

yield maximalization

[merry stirrup]

yeah amds thing

[topaz veldt]

but whats the MSRP

[brave panther]

they started F series in 9th gen

[merry stirrup]

upselling you recycled cpus

[green marsh]

"What do we do with these 8400G's with bad IGP?" "Let's sell them as 8400F" 😄

same as how we got to 5500X3D from 5800X3D 😄

[frank zealot]

right, the 8000 are all monolithic

[brave panther]

trash cpu for prebuilds

[teal orbit]

is there something wrong with that

[merry stirrup]

okay wait hollon

lets be clear the 8000 series isnt that bad

there is just no reason to purchase it

[frank zealot]

the 8400g was already shit tier for anyone building a PC
the 8400f is only worse

[merry stirrup]

if you somehow end up with an 8700G, i wouldnt complain

[brave panther]

F series is bad

[teal orbit]

is it expensive or something

[green marsh]

5800X3D -> 5800X3D rejects = 5700X3D -> 5700X3D rejects = 5600X3D -> 5600X3D rejects = 5500X3D 😄

[merry stirrup]

computer is computer at the end of the day

[teal orbit]

what's the problem with a slower cpu simply existing

[frank zealot]

if you're buying a minisforum PC? it's fine.

For anyone building a PC, it's garbage

[merry stirrup]

still better than anything on the am4 socket im sure

[green marsh]

there are specific use cases for IGP enabled 5000 series CPUs, 8000 series is more questionable

[frank zealot]

the 8400 chips have 4 lanes for the GPU instead of 16

[merry stirrup]

(okay maybe not the 8400, but)

[green marsh]

(cause every AM5 CPU has IGP, even tho very weak)

[merry stirrup]

well, ram overclocking applies to both

cant forget the super nerd applications

[hoary hatch]

Always depends on the price

[merry stirrup]

id love a ry 8k chip

[green marsh]

i mean i got 5700G because i needed an IGP CPU for the HTPC (i already had a board for it)

[merry stirrup]

i love my 5700G despite it being degraded cause it does 4800 on mem

with freakin b die

you ever see 4800 flat 16's?

[frank zealot]

again: if you're building a HTPC? The 8600G or 8700G are pretty solid options to run in a tiny box.

But if you're building with the intention of adding a GPU, all ryzen 8000 chips are garbage

[merry stirrup]

yeah

ending up with one for free from work somehow in 2 years wont be the end of the world type shit

[frank zealot]

half the cache, bullshie PCIE Generation and lanes

[topaz veldt]

I mean... sorta. They have zero GPU value.

[merry stirrup]

something rather than nothing and in this case the something isnt that terrible

[topaz veldt]

Intel still stands as the HTPC ideal for media stuff

If you are going discrete GPU for gaming then whichever

[green marsh]

but if you already got the platform, and you just repurposing it...

[topaz veldt]

well then yeah anything is better than nothing

[frank zealot]

Would I be willing to replace my HTPC with a Ryzen 8000?
Probably would. Find a nice little case, slap it down, and you're golden.

But if you're building a PC as an enthusiast, do not.

[green marsh]

yes, i feel dirty for using this as HTPC 😄

[hollow hull]

eating good

[green marsh]

X399 taichi is the server, upgraded to 9950X as main platform, so both of my X570 systems are used for not ideal jobs

[merry stirrup]

this is where the 5700g lived

[hoary hatch]

I should make an AM4 router

[merry stirrup]

jfc

[green marsh]

i use an N100 with dual 2.5GB ethernet for that

[merry stirrup]

the fucking soc is going to draw more power than your current router alone navy

[frank zealot]

my htpc is in this lol:

[hoary hatch]

Skylake with dual 2.5 for me

[topaz veldt]

AMD should go to a like 2200 pin PGA

[hoary hatch]

And a 500W psu

[merry stirrup]

believe it or not thats probably more efficient than am4

[shell void]

id be shocked if it wasnt

[merry stirrup]

at least for low power ykwimsayin

[green marsh]

AM6 is having 2100, but close enough

[shell void]

yeah you really dont need much cpu for a router

[topaz veldt]

but not PGA

[green marsh]

(in same socket size as AM5)

[shell void]

a 6700 with hyperthreading and turbo disabled would be fine

[wise bear]

devils canyon w/ 9 drives

it's so efficient

[merry stirrup]

n100 is the meta for a pfsense box

[green marsh]

PGA is dead

[frank zealot]

a 6500? lol

[hoary hatch]

i5-6500

[green marsh]

N150 too, but those are not that common yet

[topaz veldt]

obviously. I want a 2200 PGA. That was my statement.

[merry stirrup]

this is fire