#tech-chat-2

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slim solstice
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Oh

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Got it

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You get more vram

frank zealot
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blinks

wise bear
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Get one of these now that they're finally back in stock
https://www.amazon.com/Connect-P4498-Electricity-Monitor-Consumption/dp/B0CVS4WXM9

slim solstice
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In a 3050 you get 8/6 gb ram but in this you get 12

wise bear
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yeah but that one has a relocatable SCREEN

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i love mine so much

slim solstice
wise bear
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.....

slim solstice
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So now they have a seperate display?

wise bear
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If you look there's a wire

slim solstice
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Btuh

brisk jolt
wise bear
# frank zealot

yaaaas

btw lemme know when you wanna sling those usff rigs my way

slim solstice
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If they added the functionally of a smart switch ima snag

wise bear
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its a power meter, not an outlet switch.

frank zealot
slim solstice
slim solstice
slim solstice
wise bear
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why would they to a power meter

frank zealot
slim solstice
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Kill a Watt Smart Connect ™

wise bear
brisk jolt
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“but you can get a 3050!11”

cyan canopy
wise bear
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fury x still holding over 50%!!

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that's based

frank zealot
indigo tree
cyan canopy
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Are we under the impression that newer= better?

wise bear
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I don't know what the impression here is

brisk jolt
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yes bigger number also better

cyan canopy
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That's true

frank zealot
hoary hatch
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This server believes in a biggernumberbetter policy

brisk jolt
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RX7400>RTX5090 duh

frank zealot
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so, remind me: What numerical value is "Titan XP" ?

cyan canopy
frank zealot
brisk jolt
indigo tree
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Radeon 9600 Pro > RX 7600

cyan canopy
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Like comparing a 6950xt Vs a 5090 and it's a slam dunk peepogiggles

brisk jolt
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47 chromosomes better than 46

brisk jolt
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-$80 in the bank account is better than -$20

cyan canopy
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Haven't thought of that before

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20% interest on a loan is better than 5% interest.

brisk jolt
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buying a rtx 3050 for $200 is better than buying it for $100

wise bear
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Buying a gun is cheaper than buying yeezys

cyan canopy
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Buying a 5090 from a guy on marketplace for 5k is better than buying new for 2k

wise bear
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or w/e the new shoe trend is

cyan canopy
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Are the yizis still a thing?

hollow hull
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are those the cheap plastic shoes

cyan canopy
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All I know are the air maxes

wise bear
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idk I don't keep up with silly dude things

hollow hull
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I think zero-drop shoes and wide toe box shoes are starting to be come more accepted

slim solstice
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Ok bro I got the point

hoary hatch
cyan canopy
brisk jolt
cyan canopy
slim solstice
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Intel macbook better than silicon macbook?

cyan canopy
wise bear
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if I'm 20m away I'll just switch to mavericks n' yeet one at 600mph

hollow hull
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mutually assured destruction

wise bear
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oh, meters

brisk jolt
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buying a rtx 5050 is faster than a RTX 5090 (weight reduction ftw)

wise bear
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hard turn-in and fling a bomb inverted for the loft

cyan canopy
wise bear
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yeah thats not terrifying at all

cyan canopy
wise bear
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no rear MWS that's now the charge port

cyan canopy
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It's so hilariously bad lul

slim solstice
young void
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Can't send anything through Oakland lol

outer radish
young void
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All youtube does is load now driving me crazy

upbeat bolt
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Is this bad

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It dsoent have the cabel on 24 pin cabel

young void
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Before every video have to reload it like 6 times

outer radish
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Lol kill the app and clean the cache might help

young void
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Its more so when I try to jump from the embed I can look it up just weird

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Latest code need fixed or smth

outer radish
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Weird but YT has been updating their front end lately so weird bugs are to be expected.

young void
outer radish
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The Android TV app is starting to look like an Apple VLC lol

merry stirrup
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jorkin

merry stirrup
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🙏🙏pray to childish gambino

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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i couldn’t even decipher that image or message

young void
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Should only fit one way

merry stirrup
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yes

upbeat bolt
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Should this to to motherboard right

topaz veldt
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yes

merry stirrup
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if that means anything close to “goes in the board”, yes

upbeat bolt
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Aok ty

edgy laurel
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dunno why the +4 split is on a different side to the diagram above but at this point 🤷‍♂️

young void
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Scratch and snifff, having lady worm install the mobo later finally arrived Wiggles

steel stream
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nice!

young void
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Its good experience for her she felt like it'd be really hard at first but with the power of manuals she's done good so far getting the psu setup

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No one knows something, until they're shown or learn ya know

steel stream
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100%

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Best way to learn how to swim is to throw yourself in the deep end

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Drown in the deep, or rise from it

young void
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Thats the idea she's like uhhh is this right and have to just be like "I believeee in youu"

worldly compass
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yo how much better is a 4060 vs 3060 ti?

topaz veldt
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oof

young void
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Forsure I have no doubts in her bless

steel stream
topaz veldt
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how yous been

frank zealot
topaz veldt
steel stream
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Hifiman headphones are great

frank zealot
topaz veldt
steel stream
frank zealot
topaz veldt
steel stream
topaz veldt
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I have not tried the anandas, but may my aryas are so awesome

worldly compass
# frank zealot not really

im looking at both for like £200 used and benchmarks look a lil higher for the 3060 ti but idk if theres any other good reason 40 series is better?

steel stream
topaz veldt
steel stream
topaz veldt
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I paid like $1599 or somethign

frank zealot
steel stream
topaz veldt
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I love mine especially for gaming

steel stream
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or headphones for late night gaming

topaz veldt
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yeah i played Indiana jones on speakers but everything else is on aryas

steel stream
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Waiting on my 5070 Ti to finish red dead

edgy laurel
steel stream
topaz veldt
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before i was married I'd play BF BC2/BF3 on speakers like an asshole lol

frank zealot
steel stream
edgy laurel
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not just normal War Tapes

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literally called Very Aggressive Listening mix

steel stream
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oh i need to do that then

topaz veldt
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listening aggressively

steel stream
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this is a 10" sub for a 9'x12' I gotta be careful

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shit rocks

topaz veldt
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ew

edgy laurel
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painful

topaz veldt
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sounds painful

steel stream
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you bastards

topaz veldt
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you know whats funny about this art is fast guy? 294k subs

fringe vigil
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My back

topaz veldt
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what is wrong with your back jorjies

merry stirrup
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just no FG

steel stream
topaz veldt
steel stream
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ah got it

merry stirrup
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ei keep not being sure if my monitor is on

steel stream
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just gotta whip out the good old mouse wiggle

edgy laurel
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apple has that feature where the mouse pointer gets huge when you shake it

merry stirrup
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love it

steel stream
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yeah it's pretty great ngl

edgy laurel
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windows has

merry stirrup
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its a gross animation its arguably not worth turning on

steel stream
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i think power tools has smth too

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power toys whoops

merry stirrup
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close enough

steel stream
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yeah it's like a mouse spotlight

merry stirrup
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monkey gaming

steel stream
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goated for my physics lectures

merry stirrup
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real shit

topaz veldt
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Monkey Island

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
steel stream
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what did you do?

fringe vigil
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Gym, bike

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carrying heavy shi

merry stirrup
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this album so good he puts transitions on like all of it it smacks

pure garnet
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turns out my 6000 config was unstable this entire time

merry stirrup
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lmao

pure garnet
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i thought the board was just busted

frank zealot
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https://linustechtips.com/topic/1620367-damaged-12-pin-gpu-cable/
holy shit, dude caught this before his 5090 lit on fire

Linus Tech Tips

My PC has had random shutdown issues recently so I decided to reseat all my cables and when I took out GPU cable the coverings on two pins were missing and I think they are still in the power connector of my GPU. I'm not sure if this is the cause of my shutdowns, but I'm wary about plugging in th...

quick skiff
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guys is it bad taht my laptop has 2 cores 4 threads in the big 25

merry stirrup
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probably

quick skiff
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oh yipee!!!!

pure garnet
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i mean that’s like what, kaby and older?

merry stirrup
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yeah

pure garnet
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yeah you’re probably due for an upgrade

quick skiff
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so yk

pure garnet
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fire

frank zealot
pure garnet
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i went 6100u -> 2600x/v56 in 2019 and it was crazy difference

quick skiff
pure garnet
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yeah

edgy laurel
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I have a 7500u in a laptop and its basically unusable. how you're surviving on a 7200u in 2025 is crazy

quick skiff
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i close litterly evverythign when playign valorant and it still crashes

edgy laurel
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games shouldn't crash just because the hardware is slow

low sorrel
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it's a 2 core 4 thread i7?

edgy laurel
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yeah?

pure garnet
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that’s how intel mobile worked until 8th gen

low sorrel
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i thought they were always 4/8

edgy laurel
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not always, not on the low powered mobile stuff

pure garnet
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then it was 4c/8t until 10th

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where it was 6/12, now it’s whatever

edgy laurel
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7200u and 7500u are i5 and i7 but the only real difference is 1MB of cache and clockspeeds

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TDP is the same 15W

quick skiff
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chat i js realzied i cna update drivers on laptops

merry stirrup
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bad

quick skiff
merry stirrup
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200 hundred shots

steel stream
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oh caps lock

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I swear I'm not an alcoholic

merry stirrup
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see you soon to run up 20000 shots

steel stream
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hell yeah

merry stirrup
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somehow picking up guilty on the way even tho he lives past yyou

granite dirge
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Anyone else loving twisted metal season 2?

steel stream
merry stirrup
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its ifiiiiine

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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the problem is that he hasnt had enough alcohol

steel stream
granite dirge
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I don't have a problem with alcohol. I just don't drink.

steel stream
granite dirge
steel stream
granite dirge
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I mean the peacock website and app exist.

merry stirrup
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his tv is the swag tho

steel stream
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true dat

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I say as I have 3 other OLED screens in front of me

granite dirge
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I think that word changed meaning since I was in highschool does swag still mean secretly we are...

steel stream
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nope

green marsh
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2500W why not

granite dirge
merry stirrup
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gaming

steel stream
merry stirrup
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mhm

granite dirge
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The shadow of war is no longer in Mordor.

steel stream
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So do I or do I not light the beacons for aid?

fringe vigil
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shadow of war is acc so good

steel stream
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jorj you a LOTR guy?

fringe vigil
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ofc

steel stream
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hell yeah

merry stirrup
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should i swap to my 3080?

steel stream
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or just buy the 5070 ti coward

merry stirrup
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i dont really play triple A titles so its not a huge priority for me im enjoying buying benchmarking stuff

steel stream
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ah got it

merry stirrup
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bdie i bought does 4400 16-16-16 with no effort

frank cypress
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checking my email every 5 seconds

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fiending for that gpu

merry stirrup
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hmmm? whatd you get

steel stream
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fuck I missed the ice cream social at work

granite dirge
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I'm sorry what year is it....

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Did I some how get transported to the 50's .... Ice cream social.

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Is that you Fonzie?

steel stream
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Yeah I am about as cool as the Fonz

granite dirge
frank cypress
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absolutely fiending

steel stream
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🙏

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5090?

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hopefully our boy Mark hooked you up

molten iron
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Going from a 12700k to a 9800x3d. I usually play games at 4K, have discord running, maybe a browser or two tabs, OBS where I stream or record a video, but that’s mostly it. My 12700k does all of that great, but I would like to see an increase in frames for my games.

I’ve seen that the 9800x3d is great for games, however, I’ve seen people complain about multitasking. Are those bogus? Or what?

steel stream
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I think the 9800x3d will be about equal if not better in multi tasking

pure garnet
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9800x3d is similar to 13700k in r23 iirc

edgy laurel
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oh no, not again

steel stream
molten iron
# edgy laurel oh no, not again

Bro I’m sorry I’m still looking into it. I’m seeing so many different reviews and people and I’m getting hella confused.

steel stream
edgy laurel
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"multitasking" argument again.. i swear people have no idea what this word means

molten iron
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Enlighten me, sensei

steel stream
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12700k is about 22-23k, 13700k is 30k

pure garnet
edgy laurel
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Its 2025, you can run more than one application on a CPU at a time... especially a near top of the line Ryzen 7... this shouldn't be a concern.

pure garnet
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unless i’m misremembering

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i am in fact misremembering

edgy laurel
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People act like unless you have a 16-core 9950x, "multitasking" isn't possible. I guess every CPU before that couldn't run two applications at the same time..

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I'm not coming at you, Blast, but the infants who spew this word around without thinking for two seconds

pure garnet
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the only time my 8 core has sucked is when i was compiling things frequently

edgy laurel
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and confusing beginners

pure garnet
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but then i just used my 12900k instead, but that isn’t normal use

molten iron
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What is R23?

edgy laurel
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Cinebench R23

molten iron
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The app? 2023 version?

edgy laurel
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Yes, not Cinebench 2024

merry stirrup
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its cinebench R23

steel stream
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r24 stinks (I am afraid of change)

edgy laurel
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R23, the one you want

pure garnet
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i just don’t remember the scores for 2024

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so i use r23 still

molten iron
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Wait, why not R24? Is there a major difference?

merry stirrup
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he just said

molten iron
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He only said it stinks

merry stirrup
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no he didnt

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"i just dont remember the scores for 2024"

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that is the reason why nobody uses it

pure garnet
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cinebench 2024 is the newest version and is fine we just don’t use it because we’re used to the old one which is still good

molten iron
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Oh

devout ridge
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cinebench r23 has some compatibility issues with the newest workstation chips, but otherwise it doesn’t matter

molten iron
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I thought he was talking about versions of CPU’s and them being categorized by Cinebench versions or something

pure garnet
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no it’s just test versions

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i only brought it up to say your 9800x3d is comparable to the 12700k in multicore

molten iron
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Yeah I see that. It’s only 1k more

frank cypress
molten iron
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But multicore score doesn’t mean anything when focusing on fps right

pure garnet
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yeah

frank cypress
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for gpu benchmarking

devout ridge
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depends on the game, but usually no

frank cypress
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or well I did cause

merry stirrup
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nothing cinebench tells you is relevant to gaming performance

frank cypress
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2024 uses redshift which is the renderer I used to use

merry stirrup
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not even the single score

molten iron
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I just have to make sure my CPU runs in the 23k range when I first get it

merry stirrup
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no you dont just use it 😭

frank cypress
molten iron
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Or at least. I think that is what I need to do

pure garnet
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turn pbo on and just use it

steel stream
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Just use it

molten iron
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Pbo?

pure garnet
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no need for anything else

molten iron
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God I’m sorry

merry stirrup
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running cinebench is going to lead to you freaking out about temps and nobody wants to tell you 83 times that 95c is okay real talk

molten iron
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Imma cook my room lmao

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But what’s pbo?

merry stirrup
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temps =/= heat into room

frank cypress
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also cinebench isn't a stress test

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never let anyone tell you otherwise

pure garnet
frank cypress
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its a benchmark

molten iron
pure garnet
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it’ll make the chip perform the best it can while stating under conditions set at the factory

molten iron
merry stirrup
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power = heat into room

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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temp = how efficiently you get rid of the power draw

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a hotter system technically heats up a room lesss than a cooler one drawing the same power because the cooler one more efficiently cools

molten iron
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So when I get it started, I enable XMP and turn on PBO? Or is it automatically turned on?

merry stirrup
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everything else is a byproduct

molten iron
merry stirrup
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but that has nothing to do with how warm your computer is

frank cypress
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heat gets dissipated to the air causing ambient temperature to rise

molten iron
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I know heat is a byproduct

frank cypress
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cooler and fans just dictates efficiency of step 2

molten iron
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More heat = hotter room

pure garnet
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the power you burn playing games is what heats up your room

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300w at 60c is 300w at 95c

merry stirrup
frank cypress
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so how fast it can dump the heat created by the pc

frank zealot
merry stirrup
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35w at 95c = the same heat as 35w at 30c

merry stirrup
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there is no effective difference

vestal granite
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u know, something i dont get about all this heat stuff is the whole thermodynamics part u know like yeah

molten iron
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Yeah my monkey brain just can’t comprehend it. It’s like being introduced to the kilogram of steel vs kilogram of feathers

merry stirrup
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lmao

frank zealot
frank zealot
vestal granite
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like electrical energy go to heat energy or something right but at wat part does the electrical energy get used u know like why u know like idk im not no scientist

molten iron
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I guess with my experience many games I play aren’t as intensive as helldivers 2 is

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Helldivers is the one game I have that makes my pc run as fast as it can

merry stirrup
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converted

molten iron
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I play CS2, but it never gets as hot as Helldivers 2. It may not be pulling that many watts idk

frank zealot
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Energy is never created, nor lost. It is merely converted from one state to another.

vestal granite
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yeah i mean like used as in like when does the electricity turn to heat exactly u know cause like what it doing in there to be turned to heat does it just end its journey as heat u know

merry stirrup
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^

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something something efficiency idk

vestal granite
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electricity in the cpus it goes out and wiggles around the CPU then is it guaranteed to become heat afterwards or does it return somewhere

vestal granite
merry stirrup
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yes

merry stirrup
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and so does the rest of physics ykwimsayin

merry stirrup
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y not

vestal granite
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because electricity does not end in the toaster

merry stirrup
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yes it does

vestal granite
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it comes back to wall after going through the toaster

merry stirrup
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yeah but theres efficiency to everything

vestal granite
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so its not guaranteed to become heat

merry stirrup
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only some of it goes to the wall

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well actually other way around

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only some of whats pulled by the toaster goes to the toaster

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the heat is the other half of efficiency

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i reckon idk im stewpid

vestal granite
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this conversation sucks

merry stirrup
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yeah i think we should agree to never go into physics

fringe vigil
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guys should i cop

vestal granite
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no im asking questions about the physics of it i aint in any fault here

merry stirrup
steel stream
fringe vigil
steel stream
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you have 5 minutes before I leave for the gym

molten iron
fringe vigil
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so

molten iron
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“Should I play kino for a discount that is less than a meal from McDonalds?”

vestal granite
# steel stream What do you wish to know

if i put 10 electrons into a CPU and they go out and live their life doin stuff in the CPU, afterwards do those 10 electrons all become heat or do some come back to me

fringe vigil
molten iron
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Like I said

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Cheapskate

merry stirrup
fringe vigil
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sybau

merry stirrup
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i think so

merry stirrup
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i think most come back

merry stirrup
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10 vans into the cpu

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they enter and leave but stop and drop off energy

steel stream
molten iron
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Dawg, you came into #tech-chat-2 to ask whether you should buy a great game for 6 bucks. And you’re sitting here debating when you could be playing

steel stream
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current stays the same

merry stirrup
frank cypress
merry stirrup
vestal granite
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ok so the electrons they come back cause like its all a big conga line

frank cypress
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so assuming they're all open they'd all travel back or

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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any lost are due to efficiency

frank cypress
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this is too much for my brain to understand

vestal granite
frank cypress
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mmmm going to chipotle

merry stirrup
vestal granite
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why they drop off energy

merry stirrup
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cpu wants

vestal granite
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what it do with it if it just becoming heat

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how it consume it into heat

merry stirrup
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resistance

vestal granite
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see this is where youre losing me

merry stirrup
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heaters are 100% efficient

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all the energy they use is converted into heat

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empty electrons back into wall

vestal granite
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yes this is things i know of

merry stirrup
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this shit is HARD

merry stirrup
frank cypress
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I dont get electronics too hard crying

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me monkey

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it just works and it is magic

merry stirrup
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the rest is like leaking current

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cause gates draw a lil power even when off

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that makes heat

merry stirrup
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look at this old style sodimm ram layout

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actual magic

frank cypress
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magic circle fr

merry stirrup
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its pretty buns as a layout but looks wild

vestal granite
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electronics are just sewing for nerds

merry stirrup
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yeah basiclly

merry stirrup
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but all of me knows that its not even worth it

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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all i know is that ram guesses that the cpu is alive

frank cypress
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gonna make you oc even better peepowicked (probably won't but still)

merry stirrup
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nmah def not but its cool

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and may help explain specific timing relationships

shell void
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power usage is going to go up as they get more dense that's just how it is

pure garnet
merry stirrup
frank cypress
merry stirrup
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that assumes the denser chip gains no efficiency

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so i don’t think so

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just watched a cat catch a bug with his paws

frank cypress
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amazing

pure garnet
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are co offsets transferable between boards

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or do i need to retest

vestal granite
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i swear stuff just has outages all the time these days

merry stirrup
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damn

fresh grotto
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quick question for SFF cooling
I was thinking about getting the Thermalright AXP90-X47 Full, would that be worth it?

shell void
frank zealot
shell void
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i just look at 2080Ti and 5090 both being roughly ~750mm, and both running in the 1.0-1.05v range under load, but the 5090 is at 600W and 2080Ti is at 250W

shell void
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which leads me to believe that as we pack in more SMs/ROPs/etc the power usage is going to go up

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nvidia hasnt been cranking voltage to fake generational gains or anything, GB202 is just beastly

merry stirrup
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im into it iill watch it

frank cypress
merry stirrup
frank cypress
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its fucking wild

merry stirrup
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as advertised i guess

frank cypress
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I think he also made an orbital strike cannon that uses coordinates

merry stirrup
hoary hatch
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Performance power area

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If you take the same chip design and shrunk it (smaller node), it would take less area

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Same transition count on smaller node = smaller die

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More advanced nodes can typically hit the same frequency (performance) at a lower overall power

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Or, at the same power budget, can achieve more performance

merry stirrup
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so

hoary hatch
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I fucked up

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PPA is power performance area, not performance power area

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Plz forgiv

molten iron
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Currently looking at an AM5 motherboard from ASUS. It’s the X870-A Wi-Fi motherboard, however, it says the memory specifications only go up to DDR5-5200? Am I reading something wrong?

merry stirrup
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fuck you warship eat my shorts

frosty prism
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merry stirrup
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allegedly up to 8K

molten iron
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Allegedly… great

frosty prism
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even the amd website for their cpus says 5600MT at least

merry stirrup
frosty prism
merry stirrup
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just buy 6000

fringe vigil
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i found a hardd songgg

merry stirrup
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6k c36 or better (usually c30 isnt any more expensive and has better ics if you want to oc int he future)

shell void
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he was looking at 2x32 and there isnt any cheap micron for that anyway

molten iron
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Ok so it will work with 6000MT

shell void
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2x32 6000cl30-38-38-96 is the move

merry stirrup
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well if it allegedly works to 8k id assume that 6k is no problem lol

molten iron
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Wait, y’all are talking about the quality?

frosty prism
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your in tc2

molten iron
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Idfk the difference between RAM manufacturers and how they look and what they provide

merry stirrup
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then ignore us

fringe vigil
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blast wasup

frosty prism
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in short 99.99% of the time it will work

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at what it says

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at least with 6000MT on am5

molten iron
merry stirrup
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(id also trust that a modern x870 board can actually do 8K)

molten iron
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I have Corsair dominator memory

frosty prism
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well 6000MT cl30

merry stirrup
frosty prism
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xd

molten iron
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Idk what CL is

merry stirrup
molten iron
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5600mhz

merry stirrup
molten iron
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All I know

merry stirrup
molten iron
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I was expecting to get better ddr5 memory

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So go with 30 instead of 28 or something?

hollow hull
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there's also 2x16gb ddr5-6000 cl28 for $103

merry stirrup
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lower is better at the same frequency

molten iron
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I’m probably gonna buy it all off Amazon lmao

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Depending on price.

merry stirrup
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pc part picker at the tips of your fingers

molten iron
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I’ve got a Microcenter near me

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:P

frosty prism
fringe vigil
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cuh cuih

hollow hull
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microcenter doesn't have a lot of good options

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their cpu and gpu prices are usually fairly good though

molten iron
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That’s why I’m looking at that first

pure garnet
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yeah the microcenter bundle usually is just hard to sell ram/boards

fringe vigil
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cuh

molten iron
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If it’s cheaper at Microcenter, I’ll go there first

hollow hull
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their 9600X/7600X bundle is meh though

frosty prism
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250?

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and ofc 270

hollow hull
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+$50 for 32gb ddr5-6000 cl36 memory

frosty prism
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16

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32 as a whole

hollow hull
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so like 330 for 9600X, a bad motherboard, and medicore ram

just buy the $180 (sometimes $150) 9600X and run

frosty prism
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oof its gone up in price now, 270 for the 7600X

hollow hull
frank zealot
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do not get the 7600x or 9600x bundle.

This instead:

frosty prism
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that is 130 more

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but if you have the budget ofc

frank zealot
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the 9600x bundle is 340 + 50$ to get 32GB RAM

hollow hull
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okay but 1x16GB for am5 is just big dumb

frosty prism
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how much performance do you lose

hollow hull
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too much

frank zealot
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on a 7600x3d?

frosty prism
frosty prism
frank zealot
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Last I saw, 1 stick vs 2 on DDR5 wasn't that big a change

hollow hull
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it's a 1x16gb 6000 cl36 kit
rather spend an extra $60 to get 2x16gb 6000 cl30 and a much better motherboard

frosty prism
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much better how

frank zealot
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just get one of these and call it a day:

frosty prism
frank zealot
frosty prism
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HELL YEA

frank zealot
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5600 actually:

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and 28-34-34? That ain't bad

frosty prism
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i wonder if Marvell has fixed their 10gig stuff

frank cypress
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you guys have it good

frank zealot
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well, microcenter is a unicorn store

frosty prism
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i just have my HEDT bundles used

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x299

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so nice

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welp guess i have gotten into conan

frank zealot
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Sometimes I wish MC would just offer a discount on a different board of our choosing, over buying the bundle board

frosty prism
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there is a reason its a bundle

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not pick and choose

frank zealot
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if the "bundle" board was 130 bucks or something, give us a 100$ discount on a compatible board of our choice, so I can get ITX instead. >.<

frosty prism
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ITX bundle could be cool

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but remember the ram and cpu is preinstalled so it can just go into the mobo box

frank zealot
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no it's not

frosty prism
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i swear it was

frank zealot
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nope, I've bought bundles more than once, you get 3 boxes

frosty prism
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buuuu

frank zealot
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all retail boxed everything

frank cypress
frank zealot
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it's likely

frosty prism
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they 100% are

pure garnet
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the bundle exists to clear stock too

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it’s not like they pick the b650 tuf for its redeeming qualities

frosty prism
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well they have been using the same bundels for what like 3 years

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2

frank zealot
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last time I went to MC, this was the open box shelf:

frosty prism
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or smn but LONG LONG time

frosty prism
frank cypress
pure garnet
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good board but a 9900x and cl36 ram

frank zealot
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the Tuf ain't that terrible tho:
Perfectly acceptably io on back
3x m.2 slots is fine
PCIE is kinda lacking, but who really gives a fuck

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VRMs are totally fine

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like, what is someone missing out on in the tuf that any normal user actually needs?

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(if someone's buying a MC bundle, they're not getting into overclocking or anything else like that, so that's irrelevant.)

frosty prism
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it not being asus

pure garnet
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well yeah that’s why it’s bundled

frank zealot
frosty prism
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EVGA

frank cypress
pure garnet
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nah we can

merry stirrup
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thats not true

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theyre infamous for not supporting their boards

pure garnet
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the z790 dark doesn’t support 14th gen officially still

frank cypress
pure garnet
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nevermind any microcode fixes

frank cypress
pure garnet
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evga is top 3 glazed company in the pc space if not #1

pure garnet
frank zealot
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Asus? Gigabyte? Asrock? MSI? NZXT?

Like... there's literally nobody we can't shit all over for something....

So, aside from pointless whining about brand, what actually is wrong with the TUF?

frank cypress
frosty prism
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wat

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aaaaaaa

pure garnet
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the tuf works

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it’s just a very barebones board

frosty prism
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i remember

frank cypress
frank zealot
frank cypress
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the ultimate force like argh

vestal granite
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counter strike has done something

frosty prism
frank cypress
pure garnet
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thought they were biostar last gen

frosty prism
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no

frank zealot
frosty prism
frank zealot
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is it exciting? Nope. It's a fairly cheap board, none of those are exciting.

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but like what is it actually missing

frosty prism
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cheap boards are cheap, no way

frosty prism
frank zealot
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lol

merry stirrup
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ram overclocking

frosty prism
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i am wondering if kyoko has a nzxt board

merry stirrup
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i also do love full occver boards

pure garnet
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manual won’t open on my phone for whatever reason but i look for lanes when i buy boards

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that’s why i have my tomahawk

frank zealot
merry stirrup
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the edge has 2 dimm slots that is all

pure garnet
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the tuf is fine for the average person i never said it wasn’t

frank zealot
hollow hull
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it's all about where its placed

frosty prism
pure garnet
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me personally? it can’t do 3 nvme + 10gb nic

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it also won’t do 8000 like my current board

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but that isn’t a factor for the microcenter bundle

hollow hull
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it's just the cheapest mobo and ram possible i swear

frank zealot
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.... yes, that's why they're cheap

frosty prism
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cheap bundles are cheap since they are using cheap parts, no never

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cheap parts at scale only become cheaper

pure garnet
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we’ve completed the full circle

hollow hull
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their am4 deals were better

frank zealot
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a 9600x + 32GB RAM + Board for well under 350$ means you're getting some discounts somewhere

pure garnet
frosty prism
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am4 had such a shit spec

hollow hull
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buy a ryzen 5/7, get $50 off any of their compatible mobo and $5 off inland/samsung ssd

pure garnet
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you could get junk boards for super cheap

frank zealot
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80$ boards aren't things anymore

frosty prism
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i love how some 300 boards even got pcie 4

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had a b350 i saw in the bios logs got pcie 4

pure garnet
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like this is quite the board

hollow hull
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that one overheats

frosty prism
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with a 5600?

hollow hull
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I think the system crashed when it tried to run a 5900X long stress test or 5800X

frosty prism
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that board is very much not meant for those cpus

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at least not maxed out ofc

frank zealot
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yeah that board with 6 phase should not go over a Ryzen 5

frosty prism
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i do not think anyone ever marketed it to do that even

pure garnet
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that board is the 3600/5600 special

shell void
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get some little vrm heatsinks for a dollar from aliexpress and chuck a 5950x in that bih

hollow hull
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for 1 dollar more you could probably get a better mobo

frosty prism
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na

jaunty horizon
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asrock B650M-H is a funny one as its 83eur. whats the best cpu it can stand?

frosty prism
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9950X3D

jaunty horizon
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can it actually?

pure garnet
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the main good thing about am5 is amd kinda forced partners to make boards decent

frosty prism
hollow hull
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the initial release am5 boards wer egood

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now there's crap ones too

jaunty horizon
frank zealot
hollow hull
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but so far it's a little better than what am4 was

frosty prism
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but a 7800X3D it can do dat EZ PZ

hollow hull
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but this one

jaunty horizon
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so for something like 7500F it would work absolutely perfectly

frosty prism
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but with those they are ofc meant for like 7600 and such

frosty prism
pure garnet
frank zealot
hollow hull
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ohh you're asking for too much

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8300g with 3 cores disabled

frank zealot
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that fucker probably doesn't even have 16 lanes wired to the slot

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okay it does ACTUALLY have 2 nvme

merry stirrup
frank zealot
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and only 2 SATA? rofl

hollow hull
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like barely enough for a NAS

frosty prism
frank zealot
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well, anyone buying an A620 board deserves what they paid for

hollow hull
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the only good one is B650M HDV/M.2

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B850M-X R2 being the spiritual successor

pure garnet
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x670e gene

frosty prism
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thank god pure ai content will be fucked

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calling 5600MT impressive

pure garnet
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impressive for that piece of junk yeah

shell void
jaunty horizon
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in what world is A620 unbeatable

brave panther
brave panther
shell void
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hopefully this is priced fairly

jaunty horizon
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you can get B boards for basically the same price if its the cheaper ones

shell void
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three hunnid? tolerable but ill hope for less

hollow hull
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that's the one that never released right

shell void
hollow hull
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what's the power connector on the bottom for

shell void
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Q3 stretches up to September 30th so we still have to wait and see

merry stirrup
shell void
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if only there was a debug display there instead of a power connector

merry stirrup
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past mpower boards had it on a little daughter card

hollow hull
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specs look good tho

merry stirrup
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i think its thiis

merry stirrup
shell void
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this is heresy

pure garnet
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can’t wait for an external postcode to show only 15

shell void
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cant forget Ab

pure garnet
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which doesn’t even mean an error btw in the manual

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15 -> c5 -> aB or 15 -> boots is the only dialogue options my board has

edgy laurel
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00

fringe vigil
#

mr gulty

pure garnet
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99 is the last one i see before it posts and becomes a cpu temp readout

edgy laurel
pure garnet
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i knew people said the intel post codes were more useful but the amd ones are more useless than i imagined

vestal granite
#

what about 7/11 = 0.63 = 63 code

edgy laurel
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only thing its helped me with is confirm memory training was taking place

merry stirrup
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thats its purpose

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its useful for that

pure garnet
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granted my system works but i’ve only ever seen it fail on code 15

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never any other memory related code

edgy laurel
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well, 15 at least on AMD isn't a "fail", per say

merry stirrup
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yeah thats normal

frosty prism
merry stirrup
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mem training

edgy laurel
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ya, 15 is just mem training

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more informational

merry stirrup
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but if it gets stuck there it doesnt work

pure garnet
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“safe mode” doesn’t work on the tomahawk

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it’ll just hang on ab but i have a cmos reset button so it’s chill

edgy laurel
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but post codes are one of those things that drive me crazy with the departments in charge of writing manuals. 50/50 on if they'll actually be listed there

pure garnet
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the tomahawk manual has a good block diagram for lane allocation

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quite pleased with this board

devout ridge
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i hate nondescript post codes

edgy laurel
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MSI and Asrock started doing block diagrams last gen. I believe Asus is now on some boards this gen. EVERYONE should be required to do this

pure garnet
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i agree completely

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block diagram is such a basic yet incredibly useful thing to have

edgy laurel
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I even have mine saved as an image in my pictures I ❤️ it so much

pure garnet
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being able to do this is why i like the board so much

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disable some useless usb ports to have a third nvme? no problem

shell void
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it is crazy to me that (as far as i know) only MSI allows that

edgy laurel
pure garnet
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yeah i just don’t need usb 4

frosty prism
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adds a new standard of external port that can almost kinda do pcie hot swap, just to make it almsot optional

edgy laurel
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I could have benefitted from that, instead x4 CPU lanes dedicated to it

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and I don't use them

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i do find it neat that they piped the iGPU through them for display out

frosty prism
#

what happens if you do not have a igpu

edgy laurel
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then they won't work for display out

frosty prism
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sad

edgy laurel
#

I really don't like the decision to use a separate DAC, a good one at that, and only wire it to the front panel audio only

topaz veldt
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Just had some banging seafood pescatore

fringe vigil
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looks yum

merry stirrup
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trying bf6

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does this have direct storage? cause i load very fast

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like almost instantly

merry stirrup
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hate that it pulls out my first gun when i get revived for some reason

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or maybe i was twaking

versed crow
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i hate that it uses the netflix main menu but thats about it

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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ok fuck this, buying an amp. i fucking pissed at this schiit

topaz veldt
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What are you going to get dude?

edgy laurel
#

don't worry, nothing like what you have

topaz veldt
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Mine's not really anything special, I'm just always curious

edgy laurel
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i get my new cable and all is well but huh, where has my volume gone

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cranking the knob to max and still not satisfied

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ok, make sure its in high gain

topaz veldt
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Could the cable have added any resistance or something?

edgy laurel
#

it is.. switch to low gain and see what happens? huh, that did... nothing

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back to high gain, no change

topaz veldt
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Oh weird

edgy laurel
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jiggle the switch, occasionally get high gain.. BUT ONLY IN MY LEFT EAR

topaz veldt
#

Ffs

edgy laurel
#

i'm so over it

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maybe their expensive stuff is nice but man

topaz veldt
#

I had some schiit stuff for like 20 mins and could tell the switches and volume control were not going to be with me very long

edgy laurel
#

made in the usa 😐

topaz veldt
#

With chinesium parts

edgy laurel
#

fair

fringe vigil
edgy laurel
#

oh, oh.. i got it just right and i'm getting high gain in both ears

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
#

nah its good

edgy laurel
#

now i need to slide the amp back..

topaz veldt
#

Stake it in place

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Also not for nothing but my rebel is in low or med gain and it's loud as fuck

edgy laurel
#

i can't leave it like that

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lmao.. i don't wanna touch it

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phew.. they're back

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still getting something else

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Topping DX3 Pro+ looks attractive

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"Jigsaw Falling Into Place" - In Rainbows, Radiohead chefskiss

merry stirrup
#

yeah i still dont like modern battlefield

edgy laurel
#

@topaz veldt i mentioned this earlier but they added a new addition

fringe vigil
#

What are you talking about guilty

edgy laurel
#

different audio mixes in BF6

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
#

some games will be like that if your team is ass

merry stirrup
#

it amazes me this is still a problem i wont even sugar coat it

topaz veldt
#

should i work from here next week or just go home and have all my shit

edgy laurel
#

the DX3 Pro+ had no trouble bringing out the best fidelity in both Sennheiser HD650

sold

shell void
#

topping is the goat

topaz veldt
shell void
#

nobody else produces better measuring equipment for the same price afaik

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
shell void
topaz veldt
#

Its just interesting

edgy laurel
#

it says DSD64-512

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so why not

topaz veldt
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yeah if you have jriver just pick some audios up

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nothing super ultra mainstream is in dsd but its still good

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I only mess with DSD on headphones but there are some cool like 5.1+ DSD mixes

merry stirrup
#

how do i spawn with more mags

topaz veldt
#

support class

pure garnet
#

although i have hd 58x on it

edgy laurel
potent bronze
#

anyone here a photographer?

indigo walrus
topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel this 8Bitdo ultimate 2 whatever is fucking me up with the nintendo switch button layout

steel stream
#

Gentleman I hate to distract from tech chat but look at this bomb ass burger I made

merry stirrup
#

holy FUCK

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going to akns house rn

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
#

FUCCCKKK

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

that lookks awesome akn

edgy laurel
steel stream
#

homemade burger sauce, pickles, caramleized onions, bacon, patty, then a sunny side up egg

brisk jolt
#

yo drop the recipe pepoJuice

topaz veldt
#

On Windows or MacOS?

steel stream
#

It was so fucking good, figured food-chat-2 would appreciate

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

wait there's a fuggin Ultimate 3 now?

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
potent bronze
#

@indigo walrus @topaz veldt I'm planning during black friday to buy a canon eos r6 markii but im debating on which lens i should get? i like taking group photos (20ppl), scenery photos, and street photography and astrophotography. what would be a good lens?

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

oooof

edgy laurel
#

all low volume custom ordered carbon bodies

steel stream
hoary hatch
edgy laurel
steel stream
hoary hatch
#

I'll eat a burger with fork and knife if I have to

edgy laurel
steel stream
steel stream
#

We should get an award for buying something called Schiit and expecting it to be good

edgy laurel
#

sigh

brisk jolt
#

thanks to akn for making me hungry in the morning

steel stream
steel stream
edgy laurel
#

oh ya, quite a few years

#

I got the stack and the HD650's Chrismas 2015

brisk jolt
#

dude im boutta start class and this guy drops a banger of a hunger tease

topaz veldt
#

I forget which schiit I had but it was very uninspiring I think I had it a month

steel stream
edgy laurel
#

I guess its time to move on

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

Modius apparently reviews quite well

steel stream
#

Reviews sure. but how long will it last

edgy laurel
#

I'm also looking a bit at SMSL stuff

#

but this Topping really seems nice

steel stream
#

Also I think my 4070 knows it's getting replaced, getting anywhere from 20-40 fps more in RDR2 after booting it up for a while

edgy laurel
#

more than you did before?

steel stream
#

yes

edgy laurel
#

huh..

steel stream
#

one last hoorah I guess

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

Man we’re eating so good with displays these days

#

man i hate photography, or at least phone cameras. thats not what i'm seeing! why is it blown the fuck out and yellow

steel stream
steel stream
#

Also, the S90D is now on good behavior and working (I hope the Samsung technician or Woot gets this devil TV out of my house)

topaz veldt
#

OK @edgy laurel should "8bitdo Ultimate 2 Bluetooth Controller" work with dongle in my MBP 14?

brisk jolt
steel stream
brisk jolt
#

networking

edgy laurel
steel stream
#

eh go get some grub

brisk jolt
#

dude I have like… 2 options for food

#

fast take n go waffle or chicken rice

steel stream
#

I could fuck up a waffle rn