#tech-chat-2

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topaz veldt
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i used to love the viper gts

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never meet your heroes

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@edgy laurel I am seriously considering ZF8HP swapping my E34

fervent scaffold
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Stock vipers are cool, but built vipers are insane

edgy laurel
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nearly a smile

topaz veldt
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yeah like... barely almost

topaz veldt
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the comments are kind of brutal - I do think the dad was like "son thats cool but you'll sell it and go to college"

fervent scaffold
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Was it a built R8?

topaz veldt
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out of a 99 M3

fervent scaffold
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Why would you ditch the manual for an auto

topaz veldt
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because the zf8hp is so much faster

fervent scaffold
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Who cares

topaz veldt
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uhh

fervent scaffold
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Makes it more boring too

edgy laurel
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I think the ZF suits what that car is about better

topaz veldt
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Nah have like 5 cars with the trans, they are still fun

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which zf lol

edgy laurel
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oh

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the auto

topaz veldt
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yeah

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a big zf8hp with some upgrades and its violent

edgy laurel
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its not a canyon carver, its a straight line build

topaz veldt
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yeah its a highway car at this point

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I do wonder if i'd just get in trouble more

fervent scaffold
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Zumiez had a good shirt for once lol

topaz veldt
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multi pattern drilled wheels should be illegal

fervent scaffold
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Do you know what LM GT2s are lol

edgy laurel
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who doesn't

topaz veldt
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No I have no idea what cars are

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I am sort of new to cars

fervent scaffold
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Then why the multi pattern hate, I can see the hate for cheap shit Chinese castings, but those definitely arent that

topaz veldt
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Because I think it looks cheap regardless

molten iron
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hey, uh, dumb question. I'm researching the 9800x3d and i'm looking at performance charts and benchmarks... I'm seeing the 9800x3d running at a consistent 90 degrees in many titles at 4k?

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is that... .uh... normal?

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dusky juniper
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cpus are meant to operate under extreme heat

molten iron
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i run my 12700k mostly at 60-80 degrees, mostly 60 range

frank zealot
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Mother of god

dusky juniper
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that's a way weaker chip compared to the 9800x3d

molten iron
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i always thought the 90 degrees is a no-no zone

fervent scaffold
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I have a 360mm aio on a 14600k, super unnecessary but keeps it super cool

edgy laurel
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anyway what I was watching was Rimac and Koenigsegg going tit for tat in the 0-400-0 world record. Christian just beat them again yesterday at 25 seconds. Mate Rimac and CVK duke it out.

dusky juniper
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stronger chip uses more power, produces more heat, and it's running a 4k title game too

molten iron
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right

dusky juniper
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modern cpus can usually operate under a maximum temp of 110c i think

fervent scaffold
dusky juniper
molten iron
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i dont mind adjusting my AIO fans to not blow as hard when it's running hot... but 90 degrees? should i even be worried? i have a Lian Li Galahad Trinity SL-INF AIO. It's really good at keeping my temps below 73 during most hardcore gaming sessions

dusky juniper
frank zealot
dusky juniper
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for the 9800x3d, according to google it's 95c

frank zealot
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Ryzen 7000 chips are very likely to run at 85c or higher. 90-95c is very common

dusky juniper
molten iron
dusky juniper
molten iron
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oh

edgy laurel
molten iron
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uhh, i'm in texas.... so humid...? with a big question mark

frank zealot
dusky juniper
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nah humid as in like southeast asia

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where room temp is like 30 - 35c

molten iron
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in freedom units, please

frank zealot
molten iron
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oh

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well, ambient temperatures reach above 100, but we have air conditioning

dusky juniper
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ic so quite humid too ig

frank zealot
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No

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Texas is relatively not humid

dusky juniper
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37c room temp is kinda similar to asia countries already

molten iron
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lmao... but i'm looking to upgrade my 12700k to something better. and I would prefer a CPU that's had time to iron out the kinks than risking being an early adopter

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it seems 9800x3d is my best bet, but it runs super hot..

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i'm fine if that's what it's supposed to do, it just threw me off with what i'm used to

frank zealot
dusky juniper
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i'm talking bout without ac 🤦

molten iron
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hells yea

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i burn my freedom gas for freedom cooling in my freedom country driving my freedom car built in the land of the free while going 100 freedom units per hour

frank zealot
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Lol

dusky juniper
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most likely ur car is imported but 🤷

frank zealot
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Anyways:

On ryzen 7000 and 9000, seeing high Temps is not a problem. It's by design.

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The important thing to check:

Make sure your boost clock is boosting appropriately for your cpu's rated speeds.

If yes, you're fine.

molten iron
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"Make sure your boost clock is boosting appropriately for your cpu's rated speeds."

Sorry, i don't fully understand what that means. Is the boost clock like the 5.4Ghz or something I see on the CPU information?

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all i know is how many frames i get, how hot it gets, and I don't touch the voltage or try to undervolt it

frank zealot
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Frames and Temps are not especially meaningful numbers to use

molten iron
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i went from a 9700k to a 12700k that I used for nearly 3 years

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i dont know much about cpu performance and stuff

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don't get me wrong, the 12700k has lasted me a very long time and has been VERY good to me

heavy mantle
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@merry stirrup soo in ma bedroom pc i think ill go with the 7920x

frank zealot
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Google your cpu, and see what intel / amd lists as proper speeds.

They both list:
Base clock
Turbo/Boost clock

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To look at cpu numbers, use HWInfo64

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That'll tell you clock speeds and everything you need to know about what your chip is doing

molten iron
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the most i've seen my CPU do is 4.9Ghz when trying to do a Windows Defender scan KEKW

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it says 9800x3d base is 4.7 and the boost clock is 5.2

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in what situation would the CPU not be receiving the proper clock speeds? does that happen randomly? it's not like I monitor it while gaming

frank zealot
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Cpu's don't receive clock speed

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They give clocks based on load, temperature, power budget, as well as other factors

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Same for gpu's

molten iron
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i should probably circle back to your original statement about appropriate boost speeds, then.

what you're saying is that if the temperature of my CPU is 90 degrees, I have to make sure it's not pushing past its 5.2 boost clock speed?

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or am i missing somethign

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i do apologize, this is the FIRST i'm hearing of this ever

frank zealot
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It can go higher, that's fine

edgy laurel
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You don't have to do anything

topaz veldt
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Also computational algorithm dictates what frequency a CPU will run at

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Avx for instance

frank zealot
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If it doesn't reach reasonable boost clocks, there's reason to investigate

edgy laurel
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Run Cinebench. Is CPU returning a score in the ballpark of other stock 9800x3D's? Yes? Free to go about using the computer. No? Why?

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Hard to find stock results these days.. PBO undervolting is so simple

molten iron
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oh, when I initially get the thing, run a test on it

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that's what you mean, make sure the clock speeds are where they should be or higher

edgy laurel
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as long as your score is inline with where it should be, temp and clockspeed don't matter

molten iron
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hmm

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so it's like verifying i didn't get a shitty cpu

topaz veldt
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Maintaining clocks is relevant

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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Compare all-core venxhmarks

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What hinders modern CPUs that boost is inadequate cooling

edgy laurel
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a quick google for stock operation in R23 is ~20000-21000 points

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if it scores in that range, your cooler works and the chip is doing what it says on the box

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case closed

molten iron
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i see

edgy laurel
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at that point you leave it, or you gain the sickness and start making that number go up

molten iron
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i see

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ok. when i get the CPU i'll have to probably adjust the fan curve so my fans dont have to blow so hard like they do with my 12700k if the temps get that high

edgy laurel
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always. with adequate cooling in a good case, shouldn't need to make much more than a whisper

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at max load

frank zealot
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I can 100% load my cpu and I can barely hear it over the ambient noise floor

topaz veldt
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same

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at 46k R23

molten iron
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thank you for all the help

topaz veldt
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EK Velocity 3 is kinda mid

shell void
topaz veldt
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STOP

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@shell void you ever notice how mid the velocity 3 blocks are vs 2

shell void
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nop i dont shop for watercooling stuff

topaz veldt
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šŸ™

edgy laurel
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EK Supreme HF is better (only one i've ever owned..)

shell void
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from the little amount of stuff i've seen EKWB and Der8auer have the prettiest blocks

topaz veldt
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they do, but velocity 3 is a weird downgrade from velocity 2

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maybe the "blind" fasteners on the 2 did them in

shell void
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looks nice to me

topaz veldt
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compare it to velocity 2

edgy laurel
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I feel like 5nail is arguing with BIO and we're only seeing his side

topaz veldt
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like those are not evolutions they're just completely different (and the prices are as well)

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No I am shopping for my intel rig and debating on getting the "newer model" but its clearly.... less

edgy laurel
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other good car in this show

topaz veldt
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mmm

edgy laurel
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fuck me that looks good in wagon form

topaz veldt
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yeah the wagons are always good

shell void
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you know you want a DD block snail

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you don’t need to resell don’t be a square

topaz veldt
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I don't really have a CPU worth doing i tto

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was just looking at the tg heater

turbid locust
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Can confirm Mike is a real person

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confirmed today

topaz veldt
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this from a guy who lies about haircuts

turbid locust
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yup

shell void
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i expected mac to sound like a teen nerd

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not a grown man

edgy laurel
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bro

topaz veldt
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i could hear mac and guilty talking the other day

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but my game crashed so i left the state

turbid locust
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yeah bro expected me to sound like a squeaker what

edgy laurel
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if Mac told me he was 45 i'd believe him

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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he smokes

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hes 20 but he smokes

turbid locust
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5nail I do not lmfao

edgy laurel
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lol

topaz veldt
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he's from like the smokey mountains or some shit

topaz veldt
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Its not "Smoky Mountain"

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jfc

turbid locust
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Ok my fault

shell void
topaz veldt
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wait til you guys hear me talk

turbid locust
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Mike I can’t tell if that’s a dig at me or Guilty

topaz veldt
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it'll blow your mind

edgy laurel
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meanwhile 5nails the squeaker

topaz veldt
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I have a very thick Ukranian accent

turbid locust
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I’ve played games with 5nail like 3 times and never heard him speak

edgy laurel
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I already know that ain't true

turbid locust
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always an excuse

topaz veldt
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because fuckin EA can't make in-game voice work

turbid locust
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yeah yeah pal

shell void
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i still dont know if snail is white or asian

turbid locust
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It’s okay to be shy KEKW

topaz veldt
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meet me at R-r-r-r-r-r-oooosevelt Mall

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What you got against asians

shell void
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youre laotian aint you mr kahn

topaz veldt
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I am from Laosia

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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omg its bump mapped

turbid locust
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5nail needs to play BF6 with us this weekend

edgy laurel
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lol that wasn't me, that was another guy

turbid locust
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5nail make it happen

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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I can’t believe you don’t have a pc in the other house

topaz veldt
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I invited my sister down

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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yeah i don't even have an oled tv here

turbid locust
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Yeah ik ik but like cmon

shell void
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need a 65" lg c5 for the beach house

turbid locust
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how many 5090s do you own? Surely one can make it to the beach house lmao

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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going beyond 1 is just insane but it is what it is

topaz veldt
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rofl

turbid locust
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Mike and I were talking and I’m gonna wait to see where 60 series is at when Zen6X3D drops

topaz veldt
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that is so judgemental

turbid locust
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Because I think 60 series launch is gonna be miserable

topaz veldt
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ehh can it get worse than 50?

shell void
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if 6090 is awesome then itll be overpriced and out of stock which will lead to people buying up used 5090

if 6090 sux then people will buy 5090

topaz veldt
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@edgy laurel how mad are you right now

shell void
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impossible to lose frfr

edgy laurel
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gotta lie on your back to see the damn thing

topaz veldt
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rofl

shell void
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to justify putting a 65" C5 up there

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
acoustic fog
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Does cyberpunk 2077 actually use 100% cpu?

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I heard in an older post that project zero i think the studio is called but basically they said the new update will probably use 80 to 90% cpu power

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Nvm

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CD project red

frank zealot
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Roflmao

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shell void
topaz veldt
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frank zealot
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frank zealot
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Doesn't matter if your cpu isn't up to the challenge

acoustic fog
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Hmm

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Its 100% gonna make my cpu suffer

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But I heard it has a really good storyline

topaz veldt
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@edgy laurel watching all these GTR videos makes me feel better about my cold start lol

frank zealot
acoustic fog
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So it might be actually worth it to atleast try running it

frank zealot
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The original game has 5 endings? (Maybe 6 now?)

acoustic fog
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Ig it really is a story rich game

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Is it a choice kind of game?

frank zealot
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Yes

acoustic fog
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Like detriot become human?

frank zealot
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Never played that

acoustic fog
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So basically my choices affect the ending

dusk girder
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much like mass effect

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dusk girder
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or somewhat

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dusk girder
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you can choose to be a good or a bad in how you make your decisons in the game's storyline.

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paragon or renegade

frank zealot
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One ending requires specific choices along the way

dusk girder
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you choose which characters stay alive and who dies (ashley or kaidan)

acoustic fog
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Ending*

frank zealot
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One ending let's you drive a tank which is awesome

frank zealot
edgy laurel
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if you make enough save files...

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technically you can roll back as far as you like

odd mantle
edgy laurel
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but like.. ain't nobody got time for that

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frank zealot
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If you piss off certain characters, you will be locked out of certain endings.

edgy laurel
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if what ending you get is so important, how to get each one is documented

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games been out for 5 years

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dusk girder
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lolol

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dusk girder
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it's a game where you choose what you want and how you want.

frank zealot
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They're all various levels of suck

edgy laurel
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dusk girder
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@edgy laurel lolol

frank zealot
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edgy laurel
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TKitch of all people going along with this is entertaining to say the least šŸ˜†

frank zealot
edgy laurel
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I've finished that game 3 times in 5 years, I couldn't tell you what endings I got. i just play the game

frank zealot
acoustic fog
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He only game ive ever gotten 100% in is judgesim

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The*

edgy laurel
dusk girder
edgy laurel
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he's annoying as fuck when he keeps popping up

frank zealot
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Part of me actually felt for the guy

edgy laurel
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I appease him till i get his Porsche, then he can fuck off šŸ™‚

frank zealot
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Also Keanu

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frank zealot
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Yup

acoustic fog
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Isnt that John wick?

frank zealot
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Yes

edgy laurel
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what is happening

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frank zealot
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He's Johnny silverhand in cyberpunk

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edgy laurel
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oh fuck off

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this is just ragebait lmao

acoustic fog
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Im confused

frank zealot
edgy laurel
acoustic fog
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Also im not trolling, im genuinely asking

edgy laurel
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shell void
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im surprised he's as beloved as he is

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he's only in like the first two hours of the game and he's kind of annoying

edgy laurel
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Yeah I mean he's gone pretty quick, but yeah his character is a bit unbelievable. overdone

frank zealot
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Choice:
A) burn a few cheap consumables and save my best choom?

B) fuck his stupid face, he can croak.

misty wasp
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how to do shift+a shortcut in file explorer on finder?

frank zealot
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Or:
I really hate that shit in MMOs when I'm standing there in healer spec watching a beloved npc croak. Like... I have enough mp to heal a 5 man dungeons group in seconds. I can save your dumb ass before you die...

frank zealot
heavy mantle
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Hello

shell void
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@edgy laurel a random amazon reviewer that seems to actually be using filmmaker mode

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enough to make a man cry

tranquil shore
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.

shell void
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no 9300K vivid mode slop

edgy laurel
frank zealot
frank zealot
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Old enough to have dvi? No thanks

brisk jolt
ionic geyser
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I've got an old PC with a couple of terrabyte of storage that I want to make into a nas-like system.. but which software should I go with? Probably getting a proper NAS in a year or so, just need something to replace my onedrive as a stopgap

frank cypress
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and its free

ionic geyser
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Yea, I just downloaded truenas šŸ˜„ I was considering HexOS that linus invested in, but didnt think it'd be worth it since I'm not sure what I'll be going with once I get myself a real NAS

brave panther
ionic geyser
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Yea, but I was considering if it might be easier for a NAS beginner

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But I'll muddle through with the guides and documentation on the web

spare tinsel
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is it normal for wendows explorer to do this

hollow hull
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it can take some time if you have a bunch of files

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Any good motherboard to go with the 9800x3D? currently I want to get the Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F my tower is for ATX motherboards

frank cypress
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nah jk, just get something with all the features you want

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for as little as possible

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frank cypress
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x3d isn't particularly power hungry, and modern boards all have overbuilt pd

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I would just advise against asrock in particular because they had an issue with blowing up 9800x3ds for a while

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not sure if its fixed, but thats why I mentioned it

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I just dont trust asrock

frank cypress
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thats fair

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yh

frank cypress
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idk if that board provides you what you want for a decent price then id opt for that

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Its mostly for AAA gameing without it sounding like a small jet

frank cypress
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motherboard has no bearing on that

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thats cooler and fan dependant

frank cypress
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frank cypress
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ehhhhh idk they're aight

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go watch some reviews

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personally id rather get a ps120 or something but thats up to yoy

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Yh

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frank cypress
hollow hull
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yes

frank cypress
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alright then

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honestly I think my next board im gonna go gigabyte

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I dont like msi, I don't trust asrock, my asus board kinda stinks

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I think its gigabyte/aorus angle next time

low sorrel
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battlefield 6 is hella fun

hollow hull
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im for either asrock or gigabyte

low sorrel
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rush is fire

hollow hull
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I don't like the bios of msi, asus, and biostar

frank cypress
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asus can't stop giving arbitrary names

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and ngl their boards are overpriced

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proart more like profart

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ai top >

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I'd say thats perfect

hollow hull
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is it though

frank cypress
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wait ari what did you have before

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I swear you had something faster than this

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or maybe im thinking of someone else

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was not me

spare tinsel
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i was thinking what about 420
(and i guess cases)

hollow hull
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you're getting scammed with that ssd price

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hollow hull
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if you're getting a high end ssd, then something like a SK Hynix P41, it performs better than a Samsung 990 Pro after firmware update

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but you should also consider getting something cheaper like a MP44L
or go in-between and get a 1 TB P41 and a 2TB MP44L

languid bloom
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average self hosted spell-checker

lilac crater
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@young void Hi man how are you, I had a question is there any chance you can help me with one thing? The reason I ask is cus my problem is still there and in the tech support channel nobody responded and it’s been over two weeks. I genuinely do hope you’re okay though. I didn’t ask you how you were just so I can get a favour. Cya around!

(BTW I pinged you in the location I mean so yk that I’m not capping)

wraith steeple
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Dual x8, Dual 10G lan, and get this....

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A 7 segment debug display

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B850 AI Top board is honestly pretty reasonable for the price given the specs it has

brisk jolt
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I am not buying a board named ā€œAI topā€

wraith steeple
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Fucktarded name aside, that board makes the vast majority of X870(E) have an existential crisis

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That board can do almost everything the X870E Aorus Xtreme can do.....

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But on a B850 Chipset

pallid marsh
frosty prism
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bubu muh overpriced everything

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i know the 750w should be plenty fine with the 5080 buuuuuut i would still like to see something a tiny bit bigger

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maybe a board with 2.5 lan but other then that way better build

pallid marsh
frosty prism
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noice
-# and well maybe 3nvme slots can be nice

pallid marsh
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they can buy a pcie nvme card

frosty prism
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i know but mo effort and uses up a pcie slot

pallid marsh
frosty prism
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perfection

pallid marsh
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asrock had some 4 nvme slotboards but on reddit they still have cpu burning post

frosty prism
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yup

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those boards are cheap for a reason

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asrock has turned into intel

spare tinsel
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does it actually matter what temp the gpu is

brisk jolt
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me omw to find out what it can do

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wtaf its quite good for a b850

honest cove
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does anybody wanna rate my pc?

frosty prism
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No

honest cove
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thanks

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pallid marsh
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wont matter for a 9800x3d

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Howcome?

brisk jolt
frosty prism
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frosty prism
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There are more parts to it

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There is literally liquid in it

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Better cooling for demanding titles

frosty prism
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Wat

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It's not like the aio is cooling the entire pc

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Ik

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I just dont rlly like air coolers

frosty prism
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So get one?

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No need to worry about liquid leaks, no need to worry about clogging or pump failing

shell void
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it won’t make your cpu perform better than it would with a $35 thermalright phantom spirit, but if you like the appearance, and you want lower cpu temps then that’s your best option

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@steel stream i don’t think you’ll be buying one ā˜ ļø

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any better case then the h9 flow?

shell void
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ewaste case imo

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shell void
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most modern cases have adequate airflow and you should pick something that you think looks cool and fits your parts

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i’ve been looking at HAVN HS420, HAVN BF360, and Lianli O11D Mini V2

steel stream
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it's fine it's whatever I didn't want it that much anyways

shell void
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xd

spare tinsel
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what is a "mid range case"

shell void
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i interpret that as a case that is middle of the road in terms of pricing

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$50-70 is low end though IMO

spare tinsel
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im not really an expert
im guessing most people arent reviewing the cheaper end and sponsors probably want to plug their elites

wraith steeple
brisk jolt
wraith steeple
brisk jolt
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its like entering a hypercar into LMP1

wraith steeple
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I need a translator. I don't know car speak

brisk jolt
wraith steeple
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Ah okay

brisk jolt
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basically in WEC hypercar as a class was deleted and replaced by the slower LMP1

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The classes follow like hypercar>LMP1>LMP2>GT3

edgy laurel
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You cool for worst case scenario, a proper benchmark/stress test.

edgy laurel
brisk jolt
edgy laurel
fringe vigil
#

My friend bought me a burger

#

she knows best

shell void
steel stream
#

Apple TV + Apple Vision pro lol

#

Also is that Ant man? The figurine on the desk next to the ps5

wraith steeple
#

Jorj eating our national dish

edgy laurel
#

Oh, its not

#

"Ultraman"

steel stream
#

oh

edgy laurel
steel stream
#

I just realized that dude loves Apple products

#

I see Apple TV, Mac Studio, Vision Pro, Macbook pro, and a homepod

shell void
#

LUNARLAKE RAHHHHHH

#

steam deck down bad

edgy laurel
#

steam deck is old, I'd sure hope there would be improvements by now

shell void
#

it’s down so bad

#

there needs to be a zen 6 + rdna5 steam deck 2

steel stream
shell void
#

those poor lil rdna2 and rdna3.5 handhelds are going to get horrifically butchered by pantherlake

#

8 Xe2 already takes them to school

#

12 Xe3 will be unfair šŸ„€

edgy laurel
#

at this point they're not even in competition

edgy laurel
#

better be twice as fast for twice the price, or more

#

just making sure all the facts are on the table!

#

i have no interest in handhelds, no horse in this race

steel stream
#

Also I managed to factory reset the S90D this morning, I can't even get through the setup anymore lol

edgy laurel
#

Hope the dude can fix it on the spot

steel stream
#

hopefully

#

I might even get a replacement cause of the dead pixels

shell void
#

mfw the 9800x3d ($480) isn’t 3x more powerful than the 9600x ($165 on prime day)

steel stream
#

woot support finally got back to me at 3 am the other day

shell void
#

what they say

edgy laurel
#

i dunno what it is but something about the name woot support inspires very little confidence

shell void
#

it’s supposedly an amazon subsidiary so i’m surprised they took so long to reply

edgy laurel
#

that too

steel stream
#

So I sent like 5 photos and a video of the screen flashing

edgy laurel
#

oh man, i hope they don't see that potential damage on the bottom right (i think) and try to deny you

steel stream
steel stream
#

there is a possibility that my friends messed it up when unboxing it but I will deny deny deny

severe helm
#

Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone faces the same issue as me: Once I sign in to Windows using a PIN, it keeps on Welcome for like 40 seconds plus…. And it seems the services are already loaded (could listen to music from a window that was left open on shutdown)…

#

Config: 7800X3D, 32 GB DDR5 6000, RTX 4070 Ti Super

steel stream
# shell void deny defend depose

Exactly, I can believe that my friends messed up the panel when unboxing, Samsung makes their shit way too thin, but the screen flashing off and on is def something wrong with a board and that is not my fault

edgy laurel
shell void
#

yeah this obsession with razer thin tvs needs to end

#

they’re a colossal pain in the ass to handle

edgy laurel
#

Unboxing my dads 65" C3 its insane how thin the whole top 75% is. It seems SO delicate.

steel stream
shell void
#

i see a fellow samsung soundbar enthusiast

steel stream
#

yes sir

shell void
steel stream
#

woot has received multiple paragraphs and lots of media from me

shell void
#

glorious

#

buddy you can’t even use lianli wireless fans in this case

#

total HOGWASH

edgy laurel
#

meanwhile akn has a roommate with an ir blaster fucking around

steel stream
steel stream
topaz veldt
#

Wow, I just woke up

edgy laurel
#

man, whats that like

#

rarely i'll sleep this late on a weekend and I feel like i've wasted half the day

topaz veldt
#

Bro I haven't done that for like 7 years

#

I some how slept while people were playing knights and armor and jail

turbid locust
#

Vacation sleep goes crazy

#

No BF6 for me this morning linuth

#

slept in more than I wanted to and have to go into work early for some bullshit

wraith steeple
#

I don't even know what a sleep schedule is

steel stream
turbid locust
#

Yep

#

Servers opened at 4am EST

topaz veldt
#

I wish GF Now had it

turbid locust
#

Welp

topaz veldt
#

I'm a lowly game streamer

steel stream
#

poor soul

turbid locust
#

ffs guys I have the most first world problem in history rn

#

I have an iPhone 16 right

#

Uses USB C

#

Work just called and told me they’re getting my work phone ordered and whatnot

#

It’s gonna be a 14… which still uses lightning

edgy laurel
turbid locust
steel stream
#

bro what BF6 won't let me use DLSS?

edgy laurel
#

skill issue?

turbid locust
#

The menus kinda suck

#

It’s in video/graphics settings under advanced or whatever

#

It’s not the most intuitive UI in the world ngl

edgy laurel
#

the menus are confusing until you realize that hitting Esc takes you ALL the way back out, but clicking the back button only goes back one page, which you expecte Esc to do

turbid locust
#

Yeah that fucked me up so many times

edgy laurel
#

stupid design

steel stream
#

nah man all I see is XeSS and FSR lol

edgy laurel
#

I had that issue with AC: Shadows, turned out to be Steam Input somehow..

#

DLSS just wasn't in the list of upscalers until I turned that off

#

somehow I don't think thats related here though

steel stream
#

i've got reflex somehow though

edgy laurel
#

restart game?

#

I didn't have any issue in the last beta with DLSS

#

oh @turbid locust people are pissed at map size, and the new NYC map added for this weekend is apparently even smaller

severe helm
edgy laurel
#

also Rush is limited to BF2 style 12v12

edgy laurel
severe helm
#

I have never reinstalled Windows 11 since like 2 years now…. Oh and for more config: It is a PCIe Gen 4 SSD WDSN850X

edgy laurel
#

since Shutdown isn't truly Shutdown anymore

severe helm
#

Total storage 6 TB: 3 SSDs

#

NVMes

edgy laurel
#

Simply sounds like a case of a messy install with way too many startup apps

#

Troubleshooting would require disabling all but the absolutely essential and seeing if your problem persists

severe helm
#

Right… but the only question is why wouldn’t it go to the desktop screen instantly (considering I have decent specs) and continuing to load later

edgy laurel
#

if it doesn't happen in Safe Mode you can rest assured its likely one of your 3rd party apps

severe helm
#

Oh yes, safe mode instantly loads the desktop screen…. No problems in that

edgy laurel
tawny dew
#

is ts enough start up apps 😭

severe helm
#

I do use Synapse 4!!!

edgy laurel
tawny dew
edgy laurel
#

Task manager > Startup apps tab

tawny dew
#

you on about roblox exploits or some?

edgy laurel
severe helm
tawny dew
#

wtf is AMD dual core optimizer

#

bro what am i downloading i got intel šŸ™

edgy laurel
#

that system is a disaster

#

this is the kind of thing I expect from all the people in #1027757333117415424 when they complain about low performance

#

thats actually insane

severe helm
edgy laurel
#

99% of that should be disabled

#

ask any experienced enthusiast here

#

thats a horrible way to maintain a performant system

#

and explains exactly why you're having issues

#

99% of that does NOT need to be starting itself up automatically on login

#

there is no excuse

severe helm
#

Well, I need Apple stuff because all my passcodes are linked to it
I am always connected to VPN
Need Adobe Reader (professional)

Maybe I can turn off logitech g hub, magicpods, notion, and perplexity…

The rest I think I really need them

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

Needing software that you can launch any time from your task bar/start menu and needing software to start on its own slowing things down on every bootup are two very different things

severe helm
#

What would you folks suggest reducing?

edgy laurel
#

disabling startup apps isn't uninstalling the software

severe helm
#

Yes I know that

#

I will post results on the login time after disabling them

edgy laurel
#

how you have thigns configured now is basically anythign you install is launching on its own all at the same time even if you don't need it immediately. and you can't possibly need all that immediately

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

I'm not at my home PC but I have maybe 3-4 things enabled in that menu

brisk jolt
#

his looks like double digit bruh

edgy laurel
#

ya thats one of the worst i've seen

severe helm
#

Damn, that bad

edgy laurel
#

people that have system problems its one of the first things I check and its always a mess

brisk jolt
#

those people are hella scary

edgy laurel
#

I'd disable more than you really want now, then do a full Reboot. if its better, add back things one by one that you didn't want to disable

brisk jolt
#

I was gonna say lets start with a list

But id deadass delete everything below AMD noise suppression šŸ’€

edgy laurel
#

disable*

severe helm
#

Good idea… I will try to find the culprit…. I am assuming there is a ā€˜rate limiting step’ due to maybe one or two bad programs that increases the welcome screen time

young void
#

Landed a white zotac ill get back to you gents if its booty or has fan issues down the road like last gens

edgy laurel
#

don't you have a card?

young void
#

I have 2 now

young void
#

Just a second build for now so I can play with the misses, and then use it as a workstation when she's not using it

indigo tree
#

Is "aluminum alloy" a high enough melting point that it won't melt before my CPU is deliddable?

#

asking for a friend

frank zealot
#

aluminum alloy is a category of things, not one thing. So nobody can answer.

#

but the odds of something that's under 125c hurting an aluminum alloy is fairly low, so it's probably fine.

#

although

#

why are you worried about heat with delidding? what exactly are you doing

young void
#

5090 solid oc

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

bro, pure aluminum requires like 1200f. I highly doubt whatever alloy you're using melts 10x sooner

young void
#

I kinda like the looks while I typically dont like zotac wanna give them a try

indigo tree
brisk jolt
#

The zotac is pretty solid looking for what it is

indigo tree
young void
#

Im optimistic I also know their support will just send it if it ends up having issues after long work loads

edgy laurel
#

so the vice you're holding this CPU in is aluminum

#

first of all, shitty vice

young void
#

Was debating saving a few hundred on ebay and warranty

#

Landed with just taking the small L

frank zealot
brisk jolt
young void
#

$2500 isnt bad could be better but, im hoping

indigo tree
frank zealot
#

I saw a 2200$ 5090 at MC in georgia today

hoary hatch
#

@shell void can you drop a link for that raptor lake CT scan wallpaper thing

edgy laurel
young void
#

Saw some ventus on sale for like 2300

#

But its a ventuss lol. Had similar feeling about zotac. But alas

brisk jolt
#

venshit

#

Zotac has actual cooling

#

Not top tier, but not bottom tier dogshit

young void
#

They look like they tried this gen at least. The fan durability is usually my only qualm and uhh ill be running it at 70-85% 24/7 so weee shall see

indigo tree
steel stream
#

idk what any of this means

brisk jolt
#

msi this gen fell off hard

steel stream
#

but cool

young void
#

Just that 5090 at over 24hr runtime chilling at 63c life is good

#

If the zotac fairs similarly ill be content

steel stream
#

ah damn what are you doing on it?

brisk jolt
#

A 5090? I dont remember

young void
#

Thats the msi 5090 gaming trio

brisk jolt
#

So its just another 5090

young void
#

Well swapping the msi to go with the msi mobo and the zotac into the white build

indigo tree
#

If this guy is selling non-working opterons, I wonder how confused he will be if I buy a second one...

severe helm
#

I am so tempted to buy the 5090 …. But then it would involve me buying also an OLED monitor?

#

/TV

steel stream
brisk jolt
#

The 5090 is a real beast

#

and my 1440p display is indeed the bottleneck

#

currently im playing the og GOW with the shitty 120 fps, its only eating max 300w

#

essentially im using a 5070ti rn kek

severe helm
#

Could use a slash s

wraith steeple
#

If only Mr. leather jacket and GPU oven man could give out 5090 FEs like Halloween candy

brisk jolt
#

Im waiting for the 50 series refresh but honestly, since my next card’s going into the T1 with NVL it might be at the point where ill get a 6070 instead

#

it’ll be paired with a modest 1440p portable display

severe helm
brisk jolt
shell void
#

if youre only interested in gaming and general use then i would recommend buying a 5070Ti for $750 right now instead of waiting for that card

pure garnet
#

the 5090 is the real sweet spot

edgy laurel
#

lol

brisk jolt
#

After a while of the 6090 drop, would we still consider the 4090 a 4k card?

#

Specifically 4k 120
Allowing DLSS but not FG

shell void
#

no youll need to take it to your nearest electronic recycling facility

pure grail
#

specifically, mine

#

yes do it

pure grail
#

how would we know what perf games will be out by then
why not try to remember history of old flagships like 3090 2080ti etc see where they are now today

slim pebble
shell void
#

60->120 framegen will have decent input latency once reflex 2 exists so yeah i think 4090 will continue to be viable for 4k120 gaming

#

but keeping a 90 class card until it's worthless is not optimal

#

youre better off selling while it still holds value

slim pebble
#

While you can still sell it for what you bought it for

brisk jolt
#

aka, now and get a 5090 whoa

slim pebble
#

Which is insane for a card that’s a few years old

shell void
#

now would be the perfect time to sell a 4090 for like $1600-2000 and then get a $2400 5090

turbid locust
slim pebble
#

Only the PNY goes for $2400

shell void
#

i think ive seen the pny for as low as $2200 at microcenter

slim pebble
#

Maybe zotac?

brisk jolt
turbid locust
#

type shit

brisk jolt
#

Where it was 2400 tho, not sure

shell void
#

everywhere pretty much

#

@edgy laurel šŸ‘€

#

sell your 4090 while it's still worth over $1500 bro

slim pebble
#

My new TUF 5090 was $2700

brisk jolt
#

mac its time for you to grow iron balls and get a 5090

#

that 5070ti is now indeed ewaste

shell void
#

šŸ„€

shell void
#

fritz the goat

edgy laurel
#

i'm content

brisk jolt
#

hit up bb and get one of those "call me when in stock" 90FEs

shell void
#

im very curious to see what nvidia does for their next FE cooler(s)

steel stream
shell void
#

i dont see how theyd be able to meaningfully improve on the 5090FE design if they want to keep it the same form factor

slim pebble
brisk jolt
#

I wonder if they'll stick with the 2 slot SFF or go back to 3 slot region

shell void
#

they might be forced to go back to 3 slots if they start giving us a fused double gpu and two 12v-2x6 connectors

#

but if they dont then idk how they could make a better 2 slot cooler

brisk jolt
#

5090FE feels inadequate in size

shell void
#

they might have to start doing funky stuff like embedded microchannel cooling

fervent elm
#

Maybe some odd aio stuff?
Idk how thatd work

frank zealot
slim pebble
#

I doubt future cards will raise the wattage higher than the ridiculous level they’re at, they’re going with a smaller process node

brisk jolt
#

whats amazing about the FE is that they simultaneously went from 450w 3.5 slot to 600w 2 slot

fervent elm
shell void
brisk jolt
#

I dont think we're getting dual 12vhpwr nor another PL increase like Pac said

shell void
#

5090 only runs at like 1.03v at 600w

#

and rtx pro 6000 can be <1v at 600w

#

we run cpu cores up to 1.45v out of box

frank zealot
fervent elm
#

Teconologia

shell void
#

i would be surprised if they refrain from going above 600W

brisk jolt
#

I think the 70 series will get another PL increase

frank zealot
#

well, you can live in your imagination land, but I'll live out here in reality and say "that won't work."

shell void
#

nvidia has been pretty consistent

#

more dense chips use more power and make more heat

brisk jolt
#

20>30>40 have all been +100w per gen

pure garnet
#

pump in rad at a custom sized radiator could work with small tubes to be 4 slots, no?

brisk jolt
#

40>50 was another 150w

shell void
pure garnet
#

it’s not worthwhile to make though

shell void
#

nvidia isnt just cranking the new chips, that's just how they are

pure garnet
#

i don’t think they’ll go over 600w because they’ve conned the entire market into only having 1 12v cable

shell void
#

their datacenter double fused chips are 800w and use two 12v-2x6 connectors so i expect similar in the consumer flagship eventually

pure garnet
#

not having an atx 3.1 psu is saving me money

brisk jolt
#

goodbye to my PSU if they do 800w lol

frank zealot
pure garnet
#

i just need to buy another cable

fervent elm
#

5090s scale all rge way up to those insane 1000w vbios don't they?

frank zealot
frank cypress
#

honestly I expected more

fervent elm
fervent elm
pure garnet
#

i don’t think xoc people run them past like 800-900w rn

frank cypress
frank zealot
brisk jolt
frank zealot
pure garnet
#

jay ran a pass past 1000w?

brisk jolt
#

yes

frank zealot
#

yes

brisk jolt
#

he got the 1000w bios

frank zealot
#

2000

pure garnet
#

i know he has the bios

brisk jolt
frank zealot
#

he ran the 2000 on video

brisk jolt
#

I didnt watch all his vids

pure garnet
#

yeah i saw those awhile ago

edgy laurel
brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

its 8 minutes, you didn't get through it that fast

fringe vigil
#

This kid is annoying

pure garnet
#

mafia the old country

fringe vigil
#

Enzo

slim pebble
brisk jolt
devout ridge
#

you now have a 780w psu

brisk jolt
#

damn

shell void
brisk jolt
#

its quite simple, ill overclock the psu-

shell void
#

i was looking at the 1200 because it’s an interesting shape

oak vector
brisk jolt
#

But it isnt a key buying point for a psu

oak vector
brisk jolt
#

I bought it bcs there was like 0 white PSUs at its price range

steel stream
#

subwoofer has arrived

frank cypress
modest gazelle
#

someone just gave me a BX500 480 GB SSD ... for free

#

why do people buy these and not use them lol

brisk jolt
steel stream
edgy laurel
#

free bulk storage, about all DRAM-less SATA is good for

turbid locust
edgy laurel
#

@steel stream

#

lmao

steel stream
#

Ok so I'm not crazy lol

turbid locust
#

God I hope I don’t have to use.. shudders… FSR later

edgy laurel
#

i'll be alright, but quality was nice

steel stream
#

don't torture yourself

turbid locust
#

What version

steel stream
#

I think 2.1

turbid locust
#

Oh word

brisk jolt
#

Xess over FSR 3 anyday

modest gazelle
slim pebble
devout ridge
#

you wanna adopt me

slim pebble
#

He only had an 850

#

Not bad, he has a 7800X3D

steel stream
#

smth interesting about using XeSS I now have 2 upscaling quality settings

frank cypress
slim pebble
frank cypress
#

word? good on him

slim pebble
#

His sense of taste, not mine lol

frank cypress
#

haha I was just asking cause the fans looked very nzxt

#

something bout the blades

floral spear
#

A blessing and a curse at the same time

slim pebble
#

It’s a lower tier gigabyte board. He bought the Microcenter $499 7800X3D bundle with 32GB RAM when it was cheap

brisk jolt
slim pebble
#

He had a 2080 in it before, it was past time to upgrade. He used the old card to build his gf a PC.

brisk jolt
#

Oh I see

slim pebble
#

I think 5090 recommends a 1000 watt, so we went with that

brisk jolt
#

I hope they dont do another +150w for thr 6090

#

else my PSU is gonna retire sooner than expected

devout ridge
#

imagine they go dual 12v-2x6 and do 1200w

steel stream
#

would be magnificient

brisk jolt
frank zealot
#

@edgy laurel holy shit:

CPU: Atom D525
dual core 1.8ghz from 2010

wise bear
#

awww, the lil heatpipe sticking out the io shield

vestal granite
#

what if we used VGA to transfer heat

#

dvi

#

you get the point

devout ridge
#

thermal transfer through copper is rather slow

shell void
pure garnet
#

we’re gonna run into wall power problems

frank zealot
#

hahahahaha

devout ridge
#

1200w is fine for the US

vestal granite
#

what if u have other stuff plugged in

devout ridge
pure garnet
#

no monitors for my 1200w gpu

devout ridge
#

you can have 240w of stuff that isn't the GPU

thick frost
#

1200watt with a 5600g and no gpu

vestal granite
#

isnt it like 1800w for usual US house circuit thingies

#

15a * 120v

thick frost
devout ridge
#

so 1440w for continous load

vestal granite
#

oh like minutes in a day

#

wait no secodns in an hour

#

wait no minutes in a day yeah

pure garnet
vestal granite
#

oh jeepers

devout ridge
vestal granite
#

cows arent spheres but they are constructed of many spheres

brisk jolt
vestal granite
#

deers are just bumps in the road

shell void
frank zealot
#

dis neat:
265K + 3090 Kingpin

shell void
#

we already use 220/240 for major appliances, i welcome adding my desktop to that category

slim pebble
devout ridge
#

time to use a 240v 50a breaker for my pc

brisk jolt
#

hes gonna overclock the ac

slim pebble
#

Gonna overclock that electric bill

shell void
#

scale up

#

i’ll take a 3000w pc

pure garnet
#

who has a basement

devout ridge
#

keep it in the attic

frank zealot
#

this case looks... uhhhhh

brisk jolt
shell void
#

nahhhh

#

keep that bih chilled

thick frost
slim pebble
thick frost
#

What can you even use 2 5090s for

brisk jolt
#

work

frank zealot
#

cuz kingpin cards were allways the most baller cards made

thick frost
slim pebble
pure garnet
#

between a kingpin 3090 hybrid and a 9070xt i’m taking the radeon

#

kingpin has hype factor but ampere is not great

steel stream
frank zealot
thick frost
steel stream
thick frost
pure garnet
#

i really like the gold on the titan rtx

#

but it’s too expensive to buy one for collecting

slim pebble
thick frost
steel stream
frank zealot
slim pebble
thick frost
frank zealot
brisk jolt
thick frost
frank zealot
#

cell data

brisk jolt
shell void
#

assuming both were new and i wasn’t worried about a 5 year old pump dying soon

steel stream
brisk jolt
#

im taking the 3090 bcs its kingpin KEKW

#

(and bcs I already have a 9070xt laying around)

pure garnet
#

hey michael i think i figured out why pc wouldn’t sleep

frank zealot
#

This would be a seriously baller SLI rig to setup for high end SLI Gaming

pure garnet
#

my pc just rebooted during tm5

#

after 14h of vt3

shell void
#

unreal

#

i believe it tho i’ve run y cruncher for 12 hours before (without gpu load), and then errored in like 7 minutes with the same config, but with gpu load

pure garnet
#

i think it was the low voltage i was running

#

went back to 1.35 and i’ll run it again

slim solstice