tech-chat-2

[steel stream]

I think they will be sending a samsung service technician to my apartment

[edgy laurel]

it was new, right?

[desert knot]

gpu doesn't boot up

rest is powered up

[brisk jolt]

time to take the cctv out

[steel stream]

yup

[edgy laurel]

troubleshooting steps are above. you're also in the wrong channel

[edgy laurel]

Damn. Hopefully its easy to replicate

[steel stream]

It happens within seconds every time

left it unplugged all night, plugged it in this morning and BAM

nothing else on the same circuit has problems with power whatsoever

And it's not like it's drawing that much power at boot

My woot return period ends on Sunday so

[edgy laurel]

Damn. Well, who knows maybe the tech will replace the board and it'll be fine

[steel stream]

I hope so

[topaz veldt]

You need to invest in a dimmer

[steel stream]

woot has still not responded to the emails I sent them

[topaz veldt]

Oh no what's wrong

[steel stream]

power supply issue for sure

TV just constantly flickers off and on

SO i've emailed woot, and just got off the phone with samsung

[edgy laurel]

oh?

[turbid locust]

Slightly larger money ballin time yes

if houses were affordable then maybe I would

Gen z has given up on the idea of homeownership

[edgy laurel]

when they coming out?

[steel stream]

no idea, will get a call from them soon

[oak vector]

Im 17 and renting 💔

I wouldn’t recommend it.

[oak vector]

If you’re homeless js buy a house

[arctic bronze]

Why are you renting at 17??

Is that even possible

Bc 17 is still considered a child

[oak vector]

It’s
A big story. Yeah.

[pure grail]

america moment

[oak vector]

I’m Australian

😔

[frank zealot]

Reservoir, Pump, Radiator, O-Rings, and Fittings are in hand now.

Tubing and Block should be arriving today

[steel stream]

hell yeah

[frank zealot]

I'm probably gonna set it up at work on an old board just for giggles / testing

[steel stream]

valid

Tomorrow I get my Headphones, Amp, and Speakers so big audio revolution incoming

[frank zealot]

and the general "does everything work right?" test before redoing it in a box I might actually care about

I didn't realize how heavy some Res' were

this thing is an absolute brick of acrylic

[turbid locust]

Making too much money as a 21yo and still renting with roommates 🫡 it’s the method

[oak vector]

Goated

I have 2 house mates

They’re kinda fire actually

[shell void]

i’m using smart bulbs, i can dim them

[turbid locust]

Where else am I gonna get my pc hardware money?

[oak vector]

One is like
A neat freak so our kitchen is just always clean

[shell void]

they’re 1200LM (allegedly) at max, not sure what white point they claim that with

even on 20% the grey/red tint is still obvious

[frank zealot]

they don't list a weight, but it's a chonker:

[shell void]

you can see in the second photo that the lighting is dim

[shell void]

👁️

[turbid locust]

0% tint on the whip

[frank zealot]

I didn't realize it was a 200$ block/pump combo when I offered 55.

[oak vector]

What material?
I assume acrylic or smth, but I’ve never worked with or researched water cooling parts

[turbid locust]

I’m almost out of moisturizer fuck

[frank zealot]

acrylic

and whatever other stuff the pump is made out of

[frank cypress]

ddc pump in the rear?

[frank zealot]

P5D

[turbid locust]

Just stabbed myself in the gums lfg

Tried to hit the fakie 1080 YY ladder stall w my toothbrush

do not recommend

[steel stream]

wat

[frank cypress]

oh wack

seems like some sort of weird proprietary bitspower thing

[turbid locust]

google it

buddy probably doesn’t know how to instaswap in BO2

smh my head

[steel stream]

I do not

[edgy laurel]

I have no idea what that means either

[steel stream]

damn, Samsung can only make it here on the 21st?

[edgy laurel]

welp

so, lets say you don't return it

which you'd have to do by friday

er, Sunday

and the tech comes and they can't fix it

Surely it would be arranged at that point to be replaced by Samsung

[steel stream]

🤷

no idea

I've got this warranty included, which means they should replace it?

[edgy laurel]

Yeah, ok so they'll probably just replace it

[steel stream]

I am fine with that

any new TV they would replace it with will get the warranty as well which is nice, but I probably have to drive home soon to go and grab the box

[topaz veldt]

So you intentionally hate your experience lol

[turbid locust]

No offense I wouldn’t expect you to

[hoary hatch]

I love smart bulbs

Dimming + tunable color balance

(just tunable white, I don't need RGB)

[turbid locust]

#itintmytailightssotheyworkless

[shell void]

no

the tint is still obvious with dim lighting and i don’t like sitting in a dim room

i wonder when the MSI B850 Mpower Mommyboard will be available

[steel stream]

I am convinced Michael was granted eyes from the gods (I see it too though)

[turbid locust]

Supposedly Q4

Wait no they said Q3 wtf

So hopefully by next month

Out of fear they’ll have limited availability I will probably buy one and a 8500G 🙏🏼

Because apparently the B850 Force is bad

[topaz veldt]

I dunno my wife does color correction shit on hers and uses a data Spyder thing, no complaints. You should tone down your super eyes.

No QD issues here

[turbid locust]

Damn. AirPods transparency mode does not handle helicopters well

[steel stream]

or a strong gust of wind

or whistling

[turbid locust]

True lmao

But yeah a chopper was landing on the building as I was walking to work and they were not happy lol

[hoary hatch]

Helicopter is certainly a stress test for earbuds

[turbid locust]

With that being said I’m almost sure the ANC would’ve just handled it perfectly

I just… don’t use ANC lol

[hoary hatch]

Blasphemy

[turbid locust]

I love transparency mode

It’s the closest thing I can get to open back earbuds

[shell void]

you get any hot weather yet?

it’s gonna be 91 and uncovered sun here again today

[hoary hatch]

There are literally open back earbuds

[shell void]

real feel 96

[hoary hatch]

Not from apple tho

But I've thought about the nothing ear open

Then I stopped going into the fab and lost all interest

[edgy laurel]

what I always wondered about airpods that I see people wearing all the time

I've tried with the transparency mode on my Sony XM4's and its.. not fantastic

[shell void]

the transparency mode on airpods is so good that they got allowed to be classified as hearing aids

[hoary hatch]

Airpods pro 2 transparency is magic

[turbid locust]

it’s so good dude

I will be getting Pro 3’s when they come out

[edgy laurel]

or maybe it is, because it does kinda feel like super hearing and I just need to experience what Apple's is like. For all I know its the same and I just hate it

[hoary hatch]

They should add a helicopter noise reduction mode just for you

[turbid locust]

Listen man choppers land here a lot it would kinda be sick lol

[turbid locust]

You should definitely try it out. Have you never tried them?

[brisk jolt]

apparently gta 5 now has mfg lmao

[edgy laurel]

Nope, don't own them.

[turbid locust]

lol wtf why

Games cpu limited

They did this whole enhanced thing and it still only maxes 1 thread on PC

[edgy laurel]

I don't recall being CPU limited

[steel stream]

It's crazy, and they are so much more affordable compared to other hearing aids

[turbid locust]

I had like 70% gpu util at 4K native Max RT, and 1 core on my 14900K was pegged to 100%

[topaz veldt]

Nah 78-82 breezy. I did have a heck of a time with the tide yesterday on the boat

[edgy laurel]

Hmm, i'm pretty sure I recall maxing out my 4090 with the game cranked

but its been a while

[steel stream]

I forgot that you switched to a 14900k

[turbid locust]

Yes

[turbid locust]

Ok tbf this is basing it on Online mode, cause that’s what I play

It could be different in story

[edgy laurel]

Oh yeah I've never touched online

and never will

[turbid locust]

Online is notoriously harder on cpu

[shell void]

sounds splendid

[brisk jolt]

mfw did the latest driver nuke its statistics overlay

[turbid locust]

Chase and Capital One raised my limits again but Discover fucking refuses for some reason

[turbid locust]

Mine freaked out really hard one time after I updated but haven’t had any issue since

[astral edge]

So Bois my buddy wanna make a brand new pc since his pc it's getting outdated give us build adviced. EURO currency and Amazon italy thanks in advance budget 1700 to 2000 and he just plays games and code i gave him some recommendations but i wanna hear more

[frosty prism]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1106613567966429224

[brisk jolt]

Every driver update I am getting further away from the auto fan stop

[turbid locust]

My card basically doesn’t make noise so idk

[frosty prism]

Well the seller of the laptop lied

No noise from fan and speakers sound amazing

The only actual issue is that the camera privacy side button slider is broke

[slim solstice]

We talking about lev
Novo laptops now?

[frank zealot]

@topaz veldt
I found a heatsink you don't have on your wall (and would never use)
https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/sunbeamtech-tuniq-tower-120-premium-heatsink-with-120mm-blue-led-fan-ti120-led-d

....
Who the fuck designed some of these monstrosities?
@edgy laurel @steel stream

lolwut:
https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/prolimatech-super-mega-cpu-heatsink-for-intel-amd-prtch-super-mega-d

you can has a lil bit o copper

[steel stream]

those look so stupid I love them

[frank zealot]

they're on clearance at performance pc's cheap

[edgy laurel]

those are all very old school

[frank zealot]

oh i can tell lol

if anyone wants some truly aesthetic ethernet cables for their desk, they've got some of those on clearance, too:

[frank zealot]

but the design decision of "lets just leave the side of the heatsink wide open so the air from the fan can just leave without doing ANYTHING" is a choice

[edgy laurel]

damn

[frank zealot]

So, I will never have imposter syndrome again.

I've seen a product that is more of an imposter than I can ever be:

who decided that a 960 (of all things) needed watercooling?

[edgy laurel]

the chip in the test bench

. Intel’s Pentium Extreme Edition 955 is a dual-core chip that is based on the 65 nanometre Presler core (two Cedar Mill dies on the same chip package). It runs at a lofty 3.46GHz and, according to Intel, the chip has a TDP of 130W

[hoary hatch]

Which models is it compatible with

[frank zealot]

and then there's this monstrosity:

[frank zealot]

https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/alphacool-nexxxos-gpx-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-m03-with-backplate-black-ac-11263-d

[frank zealot]

a lofty 3.46 ghz

[topaz veldt]

I have that one

[frank zealot]

I have a GTX 970 sitting on my shelf.
Do I buy a waterblock for it for 10 bucks for the lulz and toss it into the rig?

[frank zealot]

this one's just adorable:

[pure garnet]

looks like an rpi cooler

[arctic bronze]

Put it on ur gpu

[frank zealot]

the fan tells me just how ancient this is, but...

The design is kinda neat looking:

[hoary hatch]

Why make a block for the most basic versions 😔

[green marsh]

i had the black smaller version of it

[frank zealot]

anyone need a block o copper fins for any projects?

[green marsh]

want weird, look at scythe

copper ninja

[edgy laurel]

Severe lack of Zalman

[turbid locust]

Still not preordering but thought this was funny

[frank zealot]

retail cousin:

[frank zealot]

we're gonna just gently hug the fan blades:

[turbid locust]

Also just interviewed a guy and dudes wearing a t shirt and sweatpants

It’s 90 degrees outside why tf are you in sweatpants

[edgy laurel]

this seems like a decidedly terrible idea

[frank zealot]

remember when this would have been amazing to own?

10/100 Ethernet

Jesus christ on a cracker >.<

[edgy laurel]

i don't even know what i'm looking at

[green marsh]

they made few revisions of that

[frank zealot]

USB / Ethernet dual HDD External enclosure

[edgy laurel]

on the plus side, it might cool your RAM a bit

[frank zealot]

on 100mbps ethernet

[frank cypress]

I was going to say thats shockingly cheap for what it is till I saw what socket it's for

[edgy laurel]

If someone showed up to an interview here in sweatpants, they're almost certainly not getting hired.

but I dunno what sorta job you have

[frank zealot]

yup. Repurposing for another use? Cool.
Original socket? I'ma laugh you offa this discord

[turbid locust]

Oh yeah we’re not hiring dude lol

[shell void]

i’ll become your boss and then wear sweatpants every day

[turbid locust]

I didn’t even go through everything i normally do

[edgy laurel]

you can do whatever you want if you're my boss

[green marsh]

@frank zealot

[edgy laurel]

ya I start cutting it real short. I can tell if someone isn't or isn't going to work out real fast

[shell void]

i don’t enjoy wearing sweatpants in public tbh

[frank zealot]

for when 140mm towers are just too pedestrian?

[shell void]

they don’t look good and i don’t feel comfortable

[green marsh]

the never actually made monstrosity

[shell void]

i’d rather just wear jeans or cargo pants

[turbid locust]

Yeah I think i literally took 10-15 mins start to finish lmao

I had like another paper or two with information I never even took out of my folder lol

[green marsh]

Scythe "we make weird shaped coolers"

Scythe "maybe we put the same shape horizontally this time"

Scythe "how about an angled tower cooler?"

oh nevermind, they made the monster, it's called Scythe Susanoo and it fits 4x 120mm fans, cause why not

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/super-troopers-mother-of-god-shocked-surprised-omg-gif-5431091

[frank zealot]

side panel?

You don't need to stinkin side panel

[green marsh]

tho they had competition in stupid in brands which died quickly

(Alpenföhn Everest in the picture above)

[merry stirrup]

good morning

[frank zealot]

I'm surprised Noctua didn't copy this and sell it as a 175-200$ CPU Cooler

(100-120$ worth of fans alone, and then the cooler on top)

[shell void]

this would probably work well with a case that has a vented sidepanel

[green marsh]

and doesn't have the power connectors in midle of the card

[frank zealot]

and isn't any taller than the card in that image

[green marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fccKX2mJNiw

[frank zealot]

Imagine stacking 4x P12 Max on top of the susanoo

it came with a rheobus:

[shell void]

put four Arctic S12038-8Ks on it

[frank zealot]

I didn't want to break whatever board it's attached to lol

[green marsh]

there are better coolers for that

[vestal granite]

i had wingstop yesterday for the first time in my life and as a professional zaxbys enjoyer i have to say, wingstop is pretty good

i would say 90% of zaxbys' goodness

wingstop atomic sauce tastes bad and their tender things that ubereats gave me for free and i would have not otherwise ordered were mid as heck

but their buffalo original hot stuff is great, their barbeque is good, their hot honey flavor thing is pretty good too little bit sweet though

[frosty prism]

Welp I'm going all AMD

Can't have a bent pin in the socket if there is no pins to bend well old amd

[vestal granite]

amdo that

[shell void]

im sorry for your loss

[vestal granite]

im happy for your loss

welcome to the matrix, samurai

[edgy laurel]

this fan has its own fan

[frosty prism]

Client came with pc and it was one I thought I fixed but has been having issues a long time

[edgy laurel]

the inner fan is to cool the hub/motor/bearing

[shell void]

yeah it’s interesting

[frosty prism]

Bent the pin a bit better again and it worked well again but I suspect it will start having issues again

[edgy laurel]

I gotta look at the specs. it claims to be incredibly efficient

[shell void]

it’s not any better than a P12 Pro or P12 Max at equal volume, but i’d like to see how the airflow feels at 8000rpm

i looked at them with tkitch in here and unfortunately it’s basically tied with P12 Pro at equal volume

[green marsh]

(i bought a AM5/LGA1700 bracket for it 😄 )

[shell void]

all copper heatsinks are pretty

[frank zealot]

only a 4lb heatsink

[frosty prism]

I am going to buy a replacement board and pray he does not need it

[shell void]

i’d like to see a NHD15 G2 made solely of copper

[green marsh]

We did an actual test in our lab with TRUE Copper installed on a system inside an upright tower case and ran for a week. The motherboard did not show any sign of ill condition. Even so, we do not recommend TRUE Copper be installed on a vertical platform and we do not recommend users moving about the case when TRUE copper is installed inside.

[shell void]

this would probably actually break a board if you didn’t have it horizontal

[green marsh]

the middle one is NH-D14, left one is the Thermalright TRUE. The copper of TRUE was 1.9kg, i don't want to even think about the weight of NH-D14 or D15

[frank zealot]

I just ordered mounting hardware to go on my res, plus a waterblock for a GTX970 for the lulz. (the block was 10 bucks, so whatever lol)

and I do have a GTX970 on the shelf at home, hopefully it fits

[brisk jolt]

my 9070xt has been sitting on the sofa as a display item xd

[topaz veldt]

These types are hard to display unfortunately

[green marsh]

modern version of those would be anything from

to

not counting AXP120-X67, cause that is 120mm

(the previous ones are 92mm)

[topaz veldt]

I have those also

I have all of those lol

[brisk jolt]

these mfs be the type to complain while wearing the most stupid shit

[vestal granite]

how do you know theyre sweatpants and not jogger pants hmm do you know the fabric composition of his pants hmm

[vagrant cargo]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-MPG-274URDFW-E16M-DisplayHDR/dp/B0F4KM6G5K/ref=sr_1_2?asc_source=01H1P39M5ZSG9J6WR6B1HBK9M0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.U2ZI6-r1jbW4iIMT8IZfve-d8aBwWDilGgRgMpSFD1kXJEbb97z16wZReHxIQrk1OUZLwBunzh-Qe0drBL4vrCFRhVbX-IhWeZMk0m6ICkxrZtrHpAuNqqLomufTsSorNeOHgsS8GiejpHRP6Vpk-WUu2dS8_GtyHRH-d8TUvcxt0qqESuahDQ0g1j6hoWsQGYC0V3djlHsODqKpRRYNNDNnL_dTIxRN4R3vZ9Xvdr8.ISYFgxZlFrWRpz2c0tFTRfNz2Tehb_z81oa5hDc136Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=MSI+MPG+274URDFW+E16M&qid=1755018572&s=computers&sr=1-2

so im assuming my monitors i pre-ordered arrive in september

i want them now though

[turbid locust]

Either way it’s not appropriate for an interview lmfao

[shell void]

i will go band for band with you in sweatpants

[vestal granite]

jogger pants can be very business casual

[turbid locust]

no

[vestal granite]

yes

the future is now old man

[edgy laurel]

no they can't

[vestal granite]

the world disagrees

[civic schooner]

Me looking at my monitor slowly die

[edgy laurel]

Amen 💪 🤘

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1modkwv/battledads_have_more_fun/

[frank zealot]

joggers are not business casual

Jeans or Cargo Pants? Potentially, sure.

[vestal granite]

see i think the issue here is the definition of jogger pants because i thought cargo pants and joggers were the same thing

[brisk jolt]

why are we doing a 1v1 with the cs

[turbid locust]

CS 1v1

Dust 2

[edgy laurel]

heyo florida, you ready

[steel stream]

dw, I got this

[steel stream]

Played a round of comp CS2 yesterday, I think I went like 2 and 14

[edgy laurel]

gotta do what I did, just play against bots

in some game mode I didn't understand

[brisk jolt]

you almost went pi

[steel stream]

oh that would have been neat

[steel stream]

CS2 is a lost art for me

[merry stirrup]

put the fans out the window trust

[steel stream]

I was somewhat decent at BO6, haven't played enough BF6 yet

[merry stirrup]

is it still open beta?

[edgy laurel]

thursday

[steel stream]

it comes back this weekend

[merry stirrup]

mmm

[edgy laurel]

4 days for everyone

[merry stirrup]

fiiiine

[edgy laurel]

1 more map, few more game modes

[merry stirrup]

i should try it i guess huh

[edgy laurel]

looking forward to seeing that Brooklyn map

[steel stream]

finally pushed my C4 to the back of my desk, this is wack

[edgy laurel]

did you do what I did, and realized its so much better?

i can't believe how long I was using it with so much room back there

[steel stream]

pretty much lol

gotta get used to it though

[shell void]

you’re probably not going to enjoy 100% scaling anymore if that’s what you were using

125 or 150 is cozy depending on preference

[steel stream]

let me see what I am using

125%

[brisk jolt]

love it when I have to 1v1 customer support

[steel stream]

that's been me with Samsung and Woot support

[turbid locust]

I had mine all the way back and had to pull it closer a little bit

But my desk is deep af, like 40” I think

[steel stream]

you have a 39" deep desk though right

what does it say about me that I know a discord users desk size

[brisk jolt]

found a standing desk with quad legs that I honestly will cop but the pictures look like they were taken in 144p

[edgy laurel]

I think my desk is only 31.5" deep, i've still never measured it and online diagrams have varying reports

[green marsh]

80cm is normal depth imo. My desk is 2.5 meters wide tho 😄

[brisk jolt]

the longest 1v1 ive ever had was with asus

[edgy laurel]

This is the desk but i'm setup against in this one would be the left side, the deeper side, flat. I wonder... I haven't played around with a corner setup in ages...

my deeper side is the right, it came in both configurations

[steel stream]

bare minimum for 42" imo, but 36" is pretty nice

[green marsh]

a picture from over a decade ago 😄

[edgy laurel]

it already feels pretty far away

[green marsh]

for context, that middle monitor in the picture back then was 30", the side monitors 27" 😄

[edgy laurel]

I knew someone with that bitfenix case

[ancient vapor]

Does anyone have any monitor recommendations to go with an RTX 5070ti?

[green marsh]

that was a watercooled 2600K + GTX670

[edgy laurel]

Ahh yes, the 30" gang

[steel stream]

I might move it a little closer, but I am loving this

[edgy laurel]

still rocking that desk. I'd love to refinish the top

13 years old now, its seen some shit

[merry stirrup]

is it the one i think it is? it’s not loading

yes it is lol

[edgy laurel]

the tiny one thats like a plastic G5/mac pro

the handles were flimsy and would cut into your hands

[merry stirrup]

mhm the classic

[edgy laurel]

oh fuck yeah

[merry stirrup]

dayummmm

thAt looks good

[edgy laurel]

many battlefield hours

[wise bear]

evac the state and let it sink already ffs

[merry stirrup]

me but italy

[steel stream]

why italy lol

[merry stirrup]

taking my teams oc records

[steel stream]

ah

[merry stirrup]

and its also sinking

[steel stream]

venice is toast

[merry stirrup]

roman took care of it for me nvm

(france is actually the closest to the states)

[pure garnet]

back on the noctua

240 aio was not the move

[merry stirrup]

whys that

[fringe vigil]

THAT SHOULD BE ME

HOLDING YOUR HAND

[pure garnet]

it was just obnoxiously loud even with fan control setup

vs my noctua brick of metal at 800rpm

[vestal granite]

no

[fringe vigil]

That should be me, making you laugh

[steel stream]

Justin beaver

[vestal granite]

too early to know with certainty but most models predict it being more likely to miss

[topaz veldt]

Takes me back bro

[topaz veldt]

Won't hit

[rapid dawn]

Your boondock saints poster is crooked

[fringe vigil]

Sure let’s go into Time Machine

[rapid dawn]

Is this five guys?

[vestal granite]

theres physics and then theres texas being a magnet that pulls all storms toward it which results in florida getting hit all the time

[rapid dawn]

What does that have to do with five guys dude

[vestal granite]

god does not like texas i think

[edgy laurel]

so we're just blaming texas

[topaz veldt]

Nah we're good

[vestal granite]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

Atlanta is so filthy storms avoid

I dunno what this is but he's happy

[vestal granite]

the storms need to hit every once in a while to powerwash things

just a little storm every once in a while not anything major just like little bit of wind

[topaz veldt]

Just booked another vacation lol

While on vacation

[rapid dawn]

That's worth at least 2 dollars

[rapid dawn]

Lazy

[topaz veldt]

He's smiling ear to ear so that's plenty

[rapid dawn]

You should destroy it to teach him about life

[fringe vigil]

Why don’t you show your son something better like yu gi oh

[topaz veldt]

@vestal granite marina says they can move my boat up to Miami for not much. @edgy laurel should I try haul over in November?

[rapid dawn]

Or magic fr

[topaz veldt]

He's 6

[edgy laurel]

yes, but must film it

[rapid dawn]

So?

[topaz veldt]

I'd probably end up on the YT lol

[rapid dawn]

Stop age gateing

[fringe vigil]

So

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel btw my son came up with the perfect boat name and it ties in my obsession with 311

[edgy laurel]

Amber Waves

[topaz veldt]

Beautiful Disaster

[edgy laurel]

fuck

[topaz veldt]

I'm doing it

[fringe vigil]

hes not very bright is he

[edgy laurel]

ominous name for a boat

fucking jorj lmao

[topaz veldt]

It's always irony

[vestal granite]

how do they move the boat do they sail it or do they tow it

[topaz veldt]

Short distance so they'll captain it there

[vestal granite]

thats cool

[topaz veldt]

Yeah if it can stay in the water the price is reasonable

[buoyant hedge]

How does my PC know the brand of my projector when it's connected via DP to VGA (VGA cable on the projector side, DP on the PC side)? I thought analog couldn't transmit data like that

[vestal granite]

it must be transmitting data of some sort is my guess

[edgy laurel]

EDID, works over VGA and DP. That it works over an adapter is interesting.

[granite dirge]

The sails of a nation?

[edgy laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Display_Identification_Data @buoyant hedge

2 or 3 pins of VGA carry this digital signal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel

[rapid dawn]

Lmfao

Boats are dumb

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/boats-and-hoes-gif-7706065958210804814

[rapid dawn]

What's on the sea anyway? Water?

[steel stream]

yes that's the whole point

[rapid dawn]

I can look at water right now

In my hotel room

BOOOORIIIING

Buy a killdozer next time

[steel stream]

Clearly you don't own a boat

[rapid dawn]

Why would I critique owning a boat whilst owning one?

Are you dumb?

[steel stream]

ad hominem

[rapid dawn]

I don't speak Arabic buddy

[steel stream]

this is the shittiest rage bait I have ever seen

[rapid dawn]

Go back to your dumb boats water boy

[edgy laurel]

I dont even know, but I must have made the right choice at some point in the past.

[rapid dawn]

Certified loser

[vestal granite]

i also made that choice for whoever is speaking

[steel stream]

ad hominem once again

[shell void]

ad hominem

[steel stream]

they just keep coming

[vestal granite]

mapplethorpe

i know words too you books readers

[steel stream]

idk what that is but I like the enthusiasm pepe

[edgy laurel]

it must be really bad if everyone is just spamming ad hominem

[pure garnet]

appeal to authority

[vestal granite]

flummery

[shell void]

not too bad tbh

he just kept saying that boats are stupid and people who buy them are stupid

[hoary hatch]

Does this mean they left or does it mean they blocked me

[shell void]

he was either kicked or left

[hoary hatch]

So I didn't miss much

[topaz veldt]

Is littleyoder the lightbar guy?

[steel stream]

blocked I think?

I've got a little yellow symbol when I click into his profile

[steel stream]

just a shitty rage baiter

[hoary hatch]

No that's gabe

[topaz veldt]

ah right

[vestal granite]

i think he lives in china but hes US expat or something

[merry stirrup]

yeah they blocked you

[hoary hatch]

Excuse you

[merry stirrup]

WOAH

[topaz veldt]

i was just double parked for 20 mins waiting on my wife shopping and I come back and there was some outrage?

[merry stirrup]

ACCIDENT I SEWAR

[steel stream]

@rapid dawn what did I do man :(

[merry stirrup]

littleyoda why dont you like boats

[heavy mantle]

Waiiit

[shell void]

IT WAS A MISINPUT

[steel stream]

little green gremlin why are you so bad at rage baiting

[vestal granite]

he just got mad that someone has boat because ocean is just water and he has a boat so he can say it that boats are bad you know

[merry stirrup]

CALM DOWN

YOU CALM THE FUCK DOWN

[steel stream]

MISINPUT

[tribal blaze]

[heavy mantle]

Isnt that yoda dude the same person who had beef with peyton and who had beef with allyal about the steamdeck ??? Ik he is irish living in china and that’s about it

[vestal granite]

oh irish

[steel stream]

probably

[pure garnet]

well he left already so

[hoary hatch]

Lip Bu posting is fucking wild Michael

[vestal granite]

i can see why he wouldnt be a fan of boats looking at the water in shanghai

[topaz veldt]

Ban

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pat-gelsinger-papa-computer-chip-gif-4422124117738847315

We only do pat posting around these parts

[steel stream]

amen

[shell void]

i miss pat so much i could cry

a goofy engineer ceo that was pouring money into the foundry

literally peak

[vestal granite]

was he engineer ceo i thought he was an accountant

[steel stream]

intel didn't know how good they had that

[vestal granite]

whos the accountant

[steel stream]

lip

[heavy mantle]

Is that jiffy?

[frail cradle]

Why is on lightmode 🙏

[hoary hatch]

It is daytime.

[edgy laurel]

we've been asking him that for years

[frail cradle]

its 9 pm

[hoary hatch]

mobile
Day time
Contrast

[vestal granite]

no he did a bachelors in physics in singapore and then he got a masters in nuclear engineering from MIT and then he went to san francisco and got master of business administration i checked his wikipedia

[hoary hatch]

Light mode is so much easier to read

[vestal granite]

i thought there was an accountant CEO that i didnt like

[frail cradle]

Dark mode >

[hoary hatch]

I'm not a monster I use dark mode at night

[frail cradle]

lowkey i kinda like lightmode ngl

[hoary hatch]

Dark text on a light background is generally easier to read

[shell void]

dork mode

[steel stream]

oh

[vestal granite]

pat gelsinger never got the Robert N Noyce award from the IEEE fellas

which is kind of a slap in the face because Lisa Su got it

[pure garnet]

i use oled black at all times but then i just don’t use my phone outside

[steel stream]

Well Pat has my heart ok

[hoary hatch]

Pat's in my prayers 🙏

(I worship PTL wafers)

[steel stream]

One day, NVIDIA will name one of their arches after Pat

[heavy mantle]

Pat sounds very simmilar to “bad” so

[spiral quarry]

especially when in the sun. Got mines set on a routine so dark/light mode are automatic.

ironically I don't have to crank my screen brightness as much with light mode so there is that.

[hoary hatch]

Oh yeah I should explain the concept of "outside" to some of these people

[shell void]

nvidia architecture named after pat gelsigner when?

[steel stream]

[vestal granite]

itll be the worst launch ever and then after the following generation comes out everyone will be like damn we shouldve appreciated what we had before

[topaz veldt]

Lip-Bu for president

[shell void]

you must buy a 4p8e4lpe12xe3 pantherlake laptop

[green marsh]

when i think back how 2080 Ti launch was like "damn, why is it so expensive" and these days we look back at "we wish the top GPU was only $1200" 😄

(also LOL @ 3080 launch MSRP never happening IRL)

[edgy laurel]

what does any of that mean

[green marsh]

4 p-cores, 8 e cores, 4 low power e-cores 12 xe3 cores ?

2nd from right

[edgy laurel]

that shits crazy. what happened to just cores

[shell void]

those specs aren’t right and that’s novalake but yeah

[vestal granite]

oh he mistyped it, its 4p8e4lpe 12xe3 gpu cores

now find the typo

[edgy laurel]

dafauq are "island cores"

[vestal granite]

anything to not say chiplet i think

[shell void]

low power cores in the SOC chiplet to allow the main compute chiplet to idle during low load

[edgy laurel]

this sounds complicated

[green marsh]

that is happening sometime later. first we will have that 52 mixed core thing with nova lake. Then P-cores and LP cores are going away. Titan lake in 2028 is going to be 100 e-cores

[shell void]

it’s the future

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/avril-lavigne-gif-9619884

[green marsh]

(speculation)

[pallid marsh]

I have only tried mozzarella sticks so far and they were perfect, I got it 61% off since we are having a deal 20% off your employee discount so $396.91 with tax

[shell void]

i only trust Jaykihn for intel leaks

he’s the only one who has posted highly detailed specs months before launch and been right

[hoary hatch]

I wish but I cannot express how useless a new laptop is for me right now

[green marsh]

well, i am glad AMD 'hybrid' architecture is just "higher clocked cores" and "somewhat lower clocked cores" within the 2 or more chiplet CPUs

[hoary hatch]

Yes

On what the naming means

PTL compute is 4+8 and I think 4+0?

[green marsh]

imagine Intel naming CPUs like monitor companies name their monitors

[shell void]

unfortunately i have memorized many monitor model names

[hoary hatch]

So it's a lot closer to U series and P series laptop silicon sizes

The only good monitor name is the Corsair flex

Er xenenon flex

[steel stream]

give me please

[green marsh]

CPUs like this still give me nightmares https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/226264/intel-celeron-processor-7305-8m-cache-1-10-ghz/specifications.html

[fervent scaffold]

My friend just overnights most of a pc to my house and tells me to build it for him

[edgy laurel]

Ryzen 8300G moment

[fervent scaffold]

Back at it again

[frank zealot]

which ryzen 5?

[fervent scaffold]

7600x

[edgy laurel]

too low res, what motherboard is that

[hoary hatch]

I used to have the specs of every flagship android phone (released in north America) memorized from 2012-2015

[frank zealot]

asrock pg lightning i think

[edgy laurel]

ya but what series

[fervent scaffold]

ASRock B650I Lightning

[edgy laurel]

ok, all good

[frank cypress]

yummy

[hoary hatch]

Yummy

[frank cypress]

chilling by the dell booth listening to Mark explain DGX to some dude

[frank zealot]

no, I require x870E for my itx board 😉

[fervent scaffold]

I picked out his parts, helped him, assumed he would take some time to decide

[frank cypress]

that is yummy indeed

[fervent scaffold]

Instead he just overnighted it all to my house

[steel stream]

the Mark??

[frank cypress]

yessir

[hoary hatch]

What expo are you at

[frank cypress]

Siggraph

just finished 2 industry sessions

[steel stream]

you lucky duck

[frank zealot]

imagine 100k being a landmark for important computer part sales

[steel stream]

tell him TC2 says hi

[frank cypress]

one was a talk from ILM and one was pixar renderman

[pure garnet]

can you even take advantage of the lanes from x870e on an itx board

[hoary hatch]

1993 was a different era

[frank cypress]

he'd quite busy but maybe when he's not so busy

[edgy laurel]

I want to know more about current generation Renderman

[frank zealot]

not in the slightest, thus the joke

[frank cypress]

renderman xpu?

super exciting stuff

way faster than RIS in scenes that don't have a gazillion lights

cause it can leverage both cpu and gpu

[edgy laurel]

i dunno what that is, but i'm mostly interested in the hardware used for modern pixar films

[frank cypress]

and the astonishing part is that renders from RIS, XPU CPU, XPU GPU, and XPU all look the same basically

[frank cypress]

l40s

and threadrippers

[edgy laurel]

surely not workstations

i'm talking the film itself

[frank cypress]

uhhh they didnt really talk about it but id assume standard server hardware

[edgy laurel]

i remember reading about the server farm used for Toy Story, and how a single 4090 could do all that did in 1/4 of the time

[frank cypress]

oh yes I absolutely believe it, the og toy story was super limited by the tech of its time

[edgy laurel]

so impressive for 1995 https://youtu.be/v-PjgYDrg70

[frank cypress]

100%

[frank zealot]

my soft tubing came with a note:

"Put a drop of water on the o-ring inside of your fitting"

soft tube barbs don't have that....

[edgy laurel]

well not with barb fittings yeah

compression fittings do.. i think?

[frank zealot]

soft tube compression exist? I didn't think that'd work well

[edgy laurel]

yeah I only used compression fittings way back when

[frank zealot]

I know hard line uses compression

[edgy laurel]

calm down @merry stirrup

[fervent scaffold]

How comparable is a I5 14600k and Ryzen 5 7600x for gaming

[frank zealot]

#ReviewsExistForAReason

[fervent scaffold]

Just in terms of power, ignoring 14th gen issues lol

[frank zealot]

look up a 9600x review, and it'll show 7600x, 9600x and 14600k

[fervent scaffold]

Wow I woulda guessed the 7600x is more powerful

[narrow gate]

no

[edgy laurel]

I wouldn't have

[narrow gate]

In productivity 7600x gets destroyed sadly 🙁
"Depends on app also"

[fervent scaffold]

Idk AMD cpus all that well

But I know theyve been doing great lately with the newer am5 stuff

[narrow gate]

(Price to perf) and upgrade wise yeah

[edgy laurel]

only the x3D stuff stands out in gaming

from everything else, i mean

[fervent scaffold]

Gotcha

I knew that cause of the cache

But x3d chips arent that cheap usually

I picked him out a 7600x cause he plans on getting a gpu later

[edgy laurel]

but what that graph should tell you isn't "damn i'm going to be slower than 14600k's", but rather "ok so basically near as makes no difference in gaming"

[narrow gate]

At 720/1080p especially
+1440p not really worth anymore:)

[fervent scaffold]

I was just curious cause I have the 14600k

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah I get that

Essentially the same performance

[edgy laurel]

on average, in games

[narrow gate]

Basically i wouldnt ugprade for another like 2-3y

[fervent scaffold]

Oh I just built this PC a few months ago, I dont plan on upgrading for a long while

Im building him his now with the 7600x

Hence the curiosity

[narrow gate]

Ah i see

[fervent scaffold]

I just got a 5070ti for mine

[edgy laurel]

he'll be just fine. turn on PBO

[fervent scaffold]

Dont know what that is but I will research and make sure I do lol

[edgy laurel]

in that case, maybe leave it off

[fervent scaffold]

Oh yeah no

[narrow gate]

Wouldnt be auto on? As far as i have seen on am5

[fervent scaffold]

For him im leaving that off

Its going in a mini itx build and he wont be doing any heavy gaming with it

[narrow gate]

Nice
What psu

[fervent scaffold]

Sfx Vetroo modular 850w

For when he does plan on getting a gpu in the future

Short future

[edgy laurel]

PBO in the BIOS often says Auto as a default, but thats effectively just "off"

[narrow gate]

That i meant yeah 🙂
Because it has also
Auto, enabled ,disabled and some more usually on am5

[frank cypress]

HNNNRRRGGGGG

imma bust

[icy mortar]

I kinda like the ideas of NAS, what would i need for one and what does upkeep cost?

[devout ridge]

any pc, and the electricty to run it

[steel stream]

bro this is NSFW content you can't post this here

[icy mortar]

ye idk how much it isss

[steel stream]

depends

[devout ridge]

depends on the area you live in

electricity price changes a lot based on where you live

[topaz veldt]

got one recently

[devout ridge]

I didn't know i could be more jealous of you

[topaz veldt]

its for a lab at work, but still

[devout ridge]

still jealous

[topaz veldt]

snuck the order in lol

[steel stream]

this is so cool

[edgy laurel]

if its a decently modern platform and all its doing is storing files, probably uses less power than a normal incandescent light bulb. Considerably less if you're smart with it

[frank zealot]

@steel stream I had the dumbest idea ever

[steel stream]

hit me

[frank zealot]

4 of these on our motherboard, screw the cover plate

[merry stirrup]

1366 bussstt

[steel stream]

oh is that those little M.2 pcs

[merry stirrup]

just the gpus

[frank zealot]

M.2 GPU

[steel stream]

that would be hype

[merry stirrup]

im supposedly fixing a gaming pc at work sometime

[wraith steeple]

[frank zealot]

it's terrible because M.2 has so little power budget

But it's hilarious

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=M2_VGA#Specifications

[edgy laurel]

i can't imagine those things are any more capable than a DisplayLink adapter over USB3

[frank zealot]

oh shit, they're only x1....

USE THE RISER LOL

(But why would I want 4x vga outputs lol)

[devout ridge]

definitely feels like a "why not" situation

[topaz veldt]

PCIe 2.0 x1 GPU ftw

[frank zealot]

4 of them would be around 500 bucks, and.... lol

[devout ridge]

500 bucks for the meme

[frail cradle]

Hi, 👋 Is there anyway to reduce the filth you get in your pc by having it on the floor? I wanna do triple monitor setup but don’t have space on my desk if I don’t put down my pc

[devout ridge]

don't have it on the floor

or have a cleaner room

[frail cradle]

brah

[steel stream]

put it on a plank of wood?

[frank zealot]

put either a board or something under it, or build a riser to keep it off the floor directly

[devout ridge]

what did you want the answer to be? "if you stand on your left leg and touch your right toe to your nose, all the dust disappears"?

[frail cradle]

I have pets I Cant be asked to vacuum every day 🥲

[devout ridge]

then we're back to option A

[frail cradle]

I mean I’m not sure, maybe there was something you could buy to put under to rise it

[devout ridge]

peice of wood

[icy mortar]

i mean idk, 39,39 ct/kWh it seems and i have a r5500 and a 6700xt, GPU would be a waste tho

[frank zealot]

do you have carpet, hardwood or tile

[frail cradle]

Hardwood

also I know I should know this, but can vacuums still create enough static to damage or kill ur pc?

[edgy laurel]

What does that hardware have to do with a NAS.

[icy mortar]

wai maybe i understand NAS wrong, explain plis

[frank zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMIX-Monitor-Computer-Storage-Organizers/dp/B0C3TBSCG5

Build something like this

[hollow hull]

NAS is basically a computer that is dedicated to holding a bunch of storage, and no other purpose

[edgy laurel]

I've been cleaning my PC's with the nozzle from my vacuum and a detail brush for literally years. Helps to just not be incompetent about it and you're fine.

[frank zealot]

NAS = Network Attached Storage

AKA: Server on the network with a boatload of storage

[edgy laurel]

If you wanted to use that as your NAS, well you'd remove the GPU first off.

[frail cradle]

I’ll have a look

[edgy laurel]

set the CPU which is already low powered into and even more low powered Eco mode, and 99% of the time it'll sit there sipping power.

[frail cradle]

What do you mean by “incompetent” 😅

[edgy laurel]

Just being a gorilla with the nozzle and shoving it into delicate things.

[wraith steeple]

Koolance finally has the QDCs I've been looking for in stock!

[frank zealot]

don't be stupid and break shit

[frail cradle]

Oh yeah of course, but was more wondering about electric static

[edgy laurel]

I use the brush to move the dust and the nozzle to suck it up. The vacuum alone won't remove dust from the surface.

[frank zealot]

just touch the case, which is grounded

[frail cradle]

But should I unplug it?

[edgy laurel]

I don't know what kinda of stupidity you have to get up to for this to actually be a problem but I've never encountered it in 15+ years

[frank zealot]

being plugged in grounds it

[devout ridge]

leave it plugged in but the PSU switch off

[edgy laurel]

Ok, refer back to the incompetence part... 🤣

[frail cradle]

lol

[edgy laurel]

How to work inside exposed electronics 101

[frail cradle]

I might just move it to be safe, I’m pretty lets say good at breaking stuff

[edgy laurel]

technically speaking though, I guess @devout ridge has a point keeping it plugged in will allow it to stay grounded, just switch off the PSU. Frankly I don't put half this much thought into it, I just clean my shit

its not nearly a big a deal as the internet makes it out to be

[frail cradle]

And when I like deep clean my shit I buy a can of air and go outside

[devout ridge]

It doesn't really matter, but leaving it plugs in essentially allows every bit of static to be discharged

[edgy laurel]

you can, but it still doesn't remove the surface dust, just the big chunks. Also moving multiple large computers is a pain so doing it inside and sucking up the dust is easier and cleaner for me

[frail cradle]

Holy flex 🥲

[devout ridge]

How you clean is rather subjective

[edgy laurel]

just do it, most importantly

speaking of.. i need to...

[devout ridge]

tiny PCs are the flex to some

[frail cradle]

yeah, atm I run with side panel off

[edgy laurel]

why?

[frail cradle]

cause better cooling

But I got a better cooler underway

[devout ridge]

• complains their pc is dirty
• runs without a side panel
  make it make sense

[edgy laurel]

sort that out, shouldn't need to. the better cooler won't help if you aren't supplying it with fresh cool air, and exhausting the hot air

[frail cradle]

I mean the tempsture is fine and all, but when I have it on for long the fans get really loud quickly

[devout ridge]

then turn them down

[edgy laurel]

thats dependent on you and the curve you set

[frail cradle]

I didn’t complain one time my pc was dirty

[edgy laurel]

all user configurable

[fringe vigil]

bobby shmurda

[frail cradle]

It’s not that, it’s just that it’s an ahhh cooler I’m running rn

[icy mortar]

just named my leftover hardware and thought thatd make more sense than to buy something new

yeah i was planning on just buying a big HDD where i can put my very regular normal and legal games onto (theyre normal game but i mean the origin, im realizing this sounds VERY weird now) , and just move them back when i need it

[frank zealot]

if you're that worried:

Canned air will get a ton of stuff out and be nearly idiot proof

[frail cradle]

Running stock amd cooler atm 😔✌️

[frail cradle]

Im not worried bout that

Cleaning I can do fine

Imma head off, I need my beauty sleep

[pure garnet]

actually fair the wraith prism i had was obnoxious to hear

[frank zealot]

random TX number calls
"Hi! I'm calling from company, and I see our record show you're a Technician at <Former Employer>."

Not anymore.

"Oh, is that out of date?"

... by about 10 years?

"Oh, well, okay then. Thank you!"

[frail cradle]

I have no idea what that means, but I’m getting a new cooler along with my new cpu

[pure garnet]

the stock amd cooler

the taller one with the rgb

it was indeed quite loud

[frosty prism]

Just lower the fan profile

[frail cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/deaf-cat-deaf-aagghh-aagh-cross-eye-cat-gif-4205790747075254931

[frosty prism]

Also do not use the super duper fany mode

[pure garnet]

the fan still has an obnoxious noise profile

[frosty prism]

Get rekt

[pure garnet]

like my artic p12 pros sound different from my a12x25s

[frail cradle]

I mean it’s not loud loud but there was once where the fans kicked in like 2x the speed or some shii and it scared the heck outta me

When I had the sidepanel on

[frank zealot]

all fans sound different

it's one reason that reviews frequently include a recording of it

[fringe vigil]

bobby smhrumda looking ahh

[hollow hull]

yuup, like on paper tr pa120 has less sound intensity than scythe fuma 3, but fuma 3's peak noise is at a lower frequency so it sounds more pleasant

[edgy laurel]

imagine ever letting fans spin fast enough to hear them

[pure garnet]

i might just pick up one more a12 so i can not have mixed fans on my splitter

the p12 pro works but it has a lot wider rpm range

[frosty prism]

The 100$ hp is in cs2

[shell void]

this is all that i think about whenever someone complains about a fan being loud

[frosty prism]

Lowest I can put it and 720p let's see dem frames per minute

[shell void]

all fans can be silent, so all that really matters is noise normalized performance

[frank zealot]

as long as your cooler has the backbone to handle the tdp, that's all you really need

[pure garnet]

i’m still figuring out the fan curve for my new board since msi didn’t have presets

[shell void]

you should join static low speed gang

[hollow hull]

900 rpm at idle, 100% above 80C ez

[edgy laurel]

and a well ventilated chassis to not require pressure to get the air in and out

[fringe vigil]

you know what we came to doo

[shell void]

static 800-1200rpm depending on your noise floor

[pure garnet]

i have it basically static 800rpm rn

[shell void]

maybe 600 if you have an exceptionally quiet room

[pure garnet]

with ramp up to 50% at 85c then max at 100c just in case

idk what the heck was going in with the pump though

it would just get louder on resume from sleep and never go back down

[green marsh]

i literally got called by a apartment complex representative because of some natural gas meter change... for a apartment i leased from someone a decade ago 😄

[shell void]

oh right im home now ill check out the bios for you

it’s still there for me on A61

it’s probably an artificial restriction similar to the 8000MT/s limit on ryzen 7000

thanks good guy AMD

[pure garnet]

is 8000 actually the cpu limit

til

[shell void]

it’s an artificial limit on ryzen 7000 yes

[pure garnet]

most amd thing ever

[shell void]

this is how i do manual fan speed in here

[pure garnet]

lock down same io die

[shell void]

i only have to change the top right number to change the static speed

[pure garnet]

and then sell the exact same chipset silicon 2 generations in a row

[shell void]

being 50% in that photo

makes it so ez

[pure garnet]

how interesting

[shell void]

<@&750150305383186585> scam bot

[pure garnet]

guess i need to purchase a 9800x3d

need that slammed timing

[topaz veldt]

buy mine

[molten iron]

Has anyone ever used Convertio? I want to convert hvec screen captures into mp4 and mp3.

[pure garnet]

@shell void new record

[green marsh]

use virtualdub to split the video file into audio and video, and then use something like handbrake to convert hevc to mp4 ?

[fringe vigil]

i saved herr

[keen wigeon]

Hello @steel stream ! Sorry, really really long days getting GB10 running

[shell void]

[pure garnet]

my pc crashing logged me out of steam

bizarre effect of mem oc

[wild trench]

Can i ask about Purchase recommendations here? I got 3 options (or more if you suggest) not sure what to do

[shell void]

yah sure

interesting

[pure garnet]

must be below the minimum

[shell void]

i got that popup after updating to the latest 580.97 driver in the nvidia app

[pure garnet]

which game

[shell void]

no game

that popped up after updating drivers xd

[pure garnet]

interesting

5090 too weak for windows 11

[wild trench]

1. used, good condition NUC12DCMi7 (intel NUC 12 extreme) 1,076.29 USD

• I7-12700 12 core, 25% faster than the ryzen according to cpu userbench
• Samsung 980 PRO M2 1TB
• Kingston fury renegade m2 4TB
• intel arc b580 that i guess ill take out 🤷
  can also probably get this one for $980 after talking to the seller

2. i buy the minisforum um790 pro new 1116 USD

• minisforum 833 USD

• R9 7940HS, better wattage since its a laptop cpu but worse performance than the i7 as stated

• 32GB 5600MHz RAM

• 1TB M.2 (with space for another one im pretty sure)

• for reference 4tb m2 is 283 USD for me
  seems to be a worse CPU, better RAM, rest idk

those are the main ones
then there's also

3. ASUS NUC 14 Pro RNUC14RVKU700000I 1230 USD

barebone with Core Ultra 7 155H and get the rest separately
barebone is at 791.15 USD
just over 300 for the storage in total
130-140 for the DDR5 memory

-# heres the links i would buy from if u wanna have a look (norwegian sites) https://www.proshop.no/Stasjonaer-Mini-PCBarebone/ASUS-NUC-14-Pro-RNUC14RVKU700000I/3275263 https://www.proshop.no/Stasjonaer-Mini-PCBarebone/Minisforum-MINI-PC-Minis-Forum-UM790-Pro-Ryzen-9-7940HS-32GB-RAM-1TB/3345948 https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/415046426?ci=3

i'd use it as cloud storage for 3d and video files and probably some note taking, i wanna try to set up video streaming which would be 4k HDR to a tv and/or to a galaxy tablet, an occasional minecraft server host, preferably capable of handling a heavy modpack like atm or rlcraft, these modpacks are particularly heavy.
maybe some other game servers sometimes, discord bot host, website host
Also if i went with the used one i guess i could use the dgpu as a tiny render farm for blender 3d projects, though this is not at all necessary just a little bonus 🤷

all i can think of on the spot

[slim pebble]

Jorj still pulling all the shawties!

[wild trench]

If anyone with more knowledge than me could give their two cents that'd be great (the bar is not high 😂 )

[slim pebble]

Don’t use usebenchmarks, they’re kind of a meme

[wraith steeple]

He's big with the Shawties in Japan up in da club, ya hear me?

[zinc valve]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-gif-6194237760116490386

[pure garnet]

honestly i’d take the ryzen

i don’t think you’ll benefit from the power of the nuc enough to justify the cost

[slim pebble]

But but.. userbenchmarks said the Intel is faster!

[pure garnet]

the 780m is also quite good for light stuff

[slim pebble]

😆

[wild trench]

Right i forgot to correct that rhe 25% part is not true my b

Apparently userbench is a famously bad source compared to other benchmarks

[pure garnet]

it is yeah

they change the scoring methodology to make the intel chips better

you’ll see cases where like an i3 “beats” a 5950x

[wraith steeple]

I wonder if the owner of UBM is a distant relative of Jufus

[wild trench]

Im open for options, my pockets arent that deep and i listed what i want to be able to do

Probably not got everything ill end up doing there as i havent done this before so ill probably explore and find some stuff i wanna try

But I got no clue what to buy

[slim pebble]

This one is better: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_9_7940hs-vs-intel_core_i7_12700k

I think the 12700K is slower single core, but faster multi-core

[wild trench]

Yep exact one i saw for correction

And minecraft needs single core afaik

[slim pebble]

So it depends on whether your workload is heavily multi-threaded or single

[wild trench]

Also the used pc i sent has dgpu and i do some 3d work, this would allow me to offload renders to the secondary pc and continue using my primary one

Either way yeah if anyone know better alternatives for what i should look for that'd be great

[frosty prism]

What GPU

[wild trench]

Arc b580

[frosty prism]

Nice

[wild trench]

Either way gpu not the primary goal, the other stuff i mentioned is what i wanna have it do smoothly and as i said i will probably explore what else i can do once i have the pc/server

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-dance-anime-dance-anime-dance-gif-dance-anime-gif-gif-26157981

[arctic bronze]

What kind of server you want?

[frosty prism]

From like 15 to almost 50

[wild trench]

Not sure what you mean, i wanna do this #tech-chat-2 message (see bottom paragraph of the linked message)

[wild trench]

^

[arctic bronze]

If you want good transfer speeds, id get something with a 10gig nic

10gig gets up to around 1.2GB a sec

[arctic bronze]

Fyi, the full steam fps graph stuff lowers ur fps by alot. Try only enabling the fps counter

[frosty prism]

Dam

[arctic bronze]

On a game me and a friend is playing, i went from 84fps to 170

[frosty prism]

Well anyhow I did some tweaking

[wild trench]

10gig what?

[arctic bronze]

Nice job

[wild trench]

Bits etherned?

Net

[arctic bronze]

10gig nic

[wild trench]

What

[arctic bronze]

I said it here lol

[arctic bronze]

Nic, network interface card

Its a network card

For wired networking

[wild trench]

My wifi is lower than that and the cables are cat5e if wifi speed doesnt matter locally over erherner (idk how it works)

So could only do 1gig

[arctic bronze]

You get 2 nics and a cat6e line

[arctic bronze]

Thats like 100MB a second max

2.5 does like 300MB/s

[wild trench]

Speaking wizard language here. The cable routing through the walls of the entire house is 5e and would be hard to upgrade

[arctic bronze]

No if you know what ur doing

[pure garnet]

5e can do 2.5 fine

[arctic bronze]

You just get ur cat 6e line, tape it to ur old line, pull the old line out on the other side then cut to spec and attach the connector

You will need a spool of it

That will cost around 200 for the spool

For cat6e

[pure garnet]

i think tearing out the entire houses ethernet is outside the scope of their project

[frosty prism]

I am kinda doing 10gig with 5e

[wild trench]

Maybe but that would come way later than getting the pc i need help with that part someone pls i beg 🙏 😭

[arctic bronze]

I have a cat 8 😏

100ft

😏

[pure garnet]

i told you get the minisforum

it’s cheaper and will be fine, you don’t need a dgpu you won’t use

[arctic bronze]

Igpu is totaly fine for most server tasks

[wild trench]

And you dont think the 145 ish cheaper used one (145 cheaper not counting the 400$ gpu)

Is better?

[pure garnet]

if it's cheaper than get that one

i saw 833d usd in the essay and assumed that was the cost

[wild trench]

Pls double check rhem im also worried i need the minisforum for ddr5 or amd cpu 😂

[pure garnet]

if you can get the other one for 980 then yeah get that one and sell the b580 to make even more back

[wild trench]

Also are others here in agreement? Can we get a census 😂

[frosty prism]

Using gg45 too?

[arctic bronze]

If you wanna be a cool epic gamer like me, go custom @wild trench

[pure garnet]

nuc is ddr4

[arctic bronze]

Its only a single cable but yeah

[pure garnet]

but ddr5-5600 vs ddr4-3200 isn't much difference

[arctic bronze]

Depending on the workload tbh

[pure garnet]

wheres the cool epic part of that pic

[pallid marsh]

Cool gamers don't have spinning rust

[pure garnet]

i see a thermalright cooler on a tuf ddr4 board

🥀

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-yo-stupid-gif-19991709

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-fight-beat-up-beating-punching-gif-13866624219462802987

[pure garnet]

[wild trench]

I mean i built my own pc but cant really build it custom with a laptop cpu. Id rather spend a bit extra to not have to spend the time to figure all that out

Idk i feel like i don't have an answer for what i should do

Doesnt have to be a laptop cpu either just figured since it's small quiet and power efficient, perfect for server

Anyways i got no clue what to do

Mainly looking at the minisforum and the used one but if anyone got other alternatives im all ears

[wild trench]

In my subjective anecdotal experience minecraft modpacks running on a normal windows computer hiccup like crazy with too low snd or slow ram

[steel stream]

Oh I am sure! Hope you are having a good time, Ennui has been sharing some awesome photos!

[arctic bronze]

Why do you want a laptop cpu?

[arctic bronze]

Snd?

[wild trench]

I have yet to run the cost calculations but it would be smaller quieter and more power efficient like i said

[wild trench]

And i dont want that to happen

[arctic bronze]

Unless ur sucking hundreds of watts, it wont matter

[arctic bronze]

What is snd

[wild trench]

Not s typo?

a typo 😂

[wild trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sand-eat-eat-sand-yummy-gif-20549525

[pure garnet]

https://www.techspot.com/article/2402-intel-alder-lake-memory-scaling/

[vestal granite]

neat

[frosty prism]

The laptop was doing 100 fps in TF2 max settings

But then it died

[steel stream]

you're wasting food smh

[fringe vigil]

i wanna be one of chris browns dancers for his shows

[steel stream]

I believe in you jorj

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

thats going in the collection

[merry stirrup]

i am doing a homie favor

[wraith steeple]

man about time those came back in stock

Though with the prices... Yeah but it is what it is

( ._.)

[fringe vigil]

shut up

[steel stream]

how dare you talk back

[pallid marsh]

Any updates on the failed QC tv

[fringe vigil]

some of his dancers are so sexy

the one from poland is fine

i was right at the front and got to record them all up close

[steel stream]

woot still has not responded, Samsung is sending a technician on the 21st

[frosty prism]

Just make sure he does not cut the tv

[steel stream]

Yeah luckily I am still WFH so will be keeping my eye out

[pallid marsh]

Lmao I just had to send a few photos and boom new tv in the mail

[steel stream]

lucky SOB

I should take some videos of the TV acting weird, I got photos of the dead pixels already

[pallid marsh]

But your getting a whole technician coming to your place to say yup the PSU is fucked

[steel stream]

hopefully repair/replace with that too

If woot gets back to me first, I will ship it back

[pallid marsh]

I think I got this lucky since it was discontinued

[steel stream]

ah

Ok just got a video of the weird behavior

[pallid marsh]

My work said we had another shipment coming when I first opened it and saw the broken local dimming spot, waited 4 months called them back and the said oh sorry it's actually discontinued

[steel stream]

I just want one working TV

[merry stirrup]

my first gt 730 lets gooo

[steel stream]

we watched blade runner 2049 the other night on it and it was awesome