tech-chat-2

[fringe vigil]

oh god

[topaz veldt]

Like cancer

[fringe vigil]

Really

[topaz veldt]

Yeah

[low sorrel]

holy shit gun shots in ready or not sound a hell of a alot bettter

[fringe vigil]

I’m sorry hope she gets better

[topaz veldt]

Same but it's bad

Hoping, but bad

[fringe vigil]

She’ll be fine, god will make her better

[topaz veldt]

Wish I had your optimism

[fringe vigil]

What the hell snail this is deep

you never said

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I haven't shared

[fringe vigil]

You making us do mom jokes too

[topaz veldt]

Found it last week or so

Ironically the same cancer that took my wife's mom

[fringe vigil]

Oh god

Im praying for yall

[topaz veldt]

Thanks jorj

She's got a good attitude

[steel stream]

Wishing all the best

[topaz veldt]

Kind of reframed some shit for me

@fringe vigil https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-JAtwolReQg&si=cV_HIdBlzVOFhZwd

Hug your parents

[fringe vigil]

Yes

[low sorrel]

gimme a penny

[fringe vigil]

bald rat we don’t need your shit rn

[karmic folio]

rude

[fringe vigil]

Well read the room

sorry rat

[steel stream]

My headphones are on the fritz again what the hell

[topaz veldt]

what you got

[steel stream]

Some Sennheisers HD6XXs, and Schitt magni unity

Seems to be happening when my pc goes to sleep after inactivity atm?

[topaz veldt]

should be alright

[steel stream]

Yeah if my PC goes to sleep, it starts squeaking like a hamster from hell

[topaz veldt]

weird

[steel stream]

indeed

This means I have to buy a new amp and pair of headphones to test and make sure

[brisk jolt]

ugh have to install schoolware into the laptop

[turbid locust]

Bro someone wants to buy my XTX and discord never sent me a fuckin notification

[topaz veldt]

sigh

just reply

[turbid locust]

Hope they respond to DMs an hour and a half late

[topaz veldt]

Get back to Moonsault

[turbid locust]

bro I did lol

they're offline now tho shits sad

[brisk jolt]

hope u can sell the xtx for a good price to recoup that cost gang

[shell void]

itll be fine bro theyll text back tomorrow maybe

[edgy laurel]

so thats with the internal DAC.. which is their new "unison" USB controller. thats supposed to be much improved. RIP.

[steel stream]

Schitt Shit

[topaz veldt]

they texted me said "Do you know Mac" and I said "Yeah he's a real crumb bum"

[steel stream]

It's pushing me to buy new Amp and a pair of Planars

I'll order next week

[topaz veldt]

my rebel amp + arya stealth?

[steel stream]

I don't have 1000+ dollhairs to spend sadly

[topaz veldt]

you making a down payment or wtf

[steel stream]

I was think JDS labs amp and Hifiman Edition XS

[topaz veldt]

help me buy a donzi

[steel stream]

If I can borrow it occasionally

[topaz veldt]

its fine

[edgy laurel]

a Donzi??? really wanna live that floridaman life I see

[topaz veldt]

thats the miami part

[edgy laurel]

yeah for sure

does Donzi really even exist outside of Miami

[topaz veldt]

Its actually called Donzi (Miami)

[edgy laurel]

oh

[topaz veldt]

Guilty if I move to Miami will you make sure my house here is well kept

[edgy laurel]

The E34 needs to be taken around the block once a week right??

[topaz veldt]

Neigh - twice

[edgy laurel]

Sold

[topaz veldt]

I think im going to go to the ocnj place for a week or two

[steel stream]

It just squeaked like a hamster when I had the PC on

Curse you Schitt

[topaz veldt]

could it be a usb driver issue thing

[steel stream]

What a fool I am for buying a product literally named Shjit

[turbid locust]

swear you go on vacation monthly lol

[edgy laurel]

their whole thing is they don't have drivers, or at least beyond the default Windows drivers

so its not like there is anything to download

honestly @steel stream see if you can get some free Schiit from them

email and complain

whats the worst that can happen, they say no?

[steel stream]

I suppose so, Im just out of warranty

[edgy laurel]

that amp has the DAC on a card, I suspect

since its modular

[steel stream]

Yes

[edgy laurel]

i wonder if it can be replaced

[topaz veldt]

i kind of have to

[steel stream]

I can see the card through the holes

[edgy laurel]

that daughter board on top

[steel stream]

I will have to email tomorrow

[edgy laurel]

i guess it would be nice to know if it happens on another PC

[steel stream]

"Email shit" scheduled for 9:30 am

[edgy laurel]

you have a laptop you can plug it into and put it to sleep

[steel stream]

Yeah but now it's squeaking and crackling even when in discord

this fucking thing makes me crazy

[topaz veldt]

get a cell phone clip

[steel stream]

the issues are so intermittent and hard to replicate

[edgy laurel]

honestly it was the same with my Modi DAC, so intermittent

[steel stream]

Anytime it happens I feel like I have a eureka moment and then it doesn't happen for hours

[topaz veldt]

its like owning an AMD GPU

[steel stream]

pretty much tbh

(I've never owned an AMD gpu)

[shell void]

i had connection issues with my modi, and both my magni and my magniius died from minor static shocks

[topaz veldt]

but now you don't have to

[shell void]

i regret ever spending money on shit

[frank cypress]

I still want the thing with the big dial

[steel stream]

Anytime I tell this story the people immediately point out that I bought Shit

[steel stream]

I'm ordering within the next week no joke

[frank cypress]

let's fucking go

we must hear more

[steel stream]

If imma upgrade from shit might as well get something good

[edgy laurel]

man they really like to talk about trying a different USB cable

https://www.schiit.com/guides/usb-problems?srsltid=AfmBOoouhzaqj-MatfpEV3CYK_maelCxmpdAzcdPDqXphj13HEEAM1FE

[topaz veldt]

usb is very complicated

[edgy laurel]

Honestly, not a bad idea

[steel stream]

So they just supply shit cables or smth? But I've tried with other cables and I am pretty sure I get the same thing

it's been a while

This is just the first time it's squeaked since March

[edgy laurel]

LMAO

[steel stream]

Fuckers

[frank cypress]

its time for you to build a new pc akn

285k + 2x 5090s

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-upset-mad-complain-gif-7882092

[topaz veldt]

peak

[edgy laurel]

no joke though, USB power states might have something to do with it if it triggers after waking from sleep

[steel stream]

I couldn't find the GIF with subtitles but I think you guys all know what is going on

[steel stream]

I think I have "high power USB" on this board so I will try that

see if that does anything

But hearing deranged hamster squeaks when trying to listen to music is shitty

pun very much intended

[edgy laurel]

could try disabling these

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-family-guy-chris-family-guy-meme-gif-2247706679335020877

[steel stream]

great reference thank you

[frank cypress]

its been stuck in my head

[edgy laurel]

in fact they even suggest doing so on that page

then using an externally powered USB hub

[steel stream]

I'll do it, but does not change my opinion on these fuckers if it does anything. I do appreciate the help

[steel stream]

Refer to Chevy Chase GIF above

[brisk jolt]

“And Ricchard forgets the abbreviation for America”
USB

[regal wigeon]

For my 7800x3D in amd ryzen master should I leave it in default or use precision boost or auto overlocking

[hollow hull]

pbo

though you should do it through BIOS

[edgy laurel]

You can play with PBO and CO, but in the BIOS. Just uninstall Ryzen Master

[regal wigeon]

Alright I only used it for info before. Like power usage and the such

What’s wrong with ryzen master

[hollow hull]

any settings you applied in ryzen master only works while ryzen master is running in the background

[turbid locust]

It can also fuck up because it’s software and send funny voltages to your cpu

[edgy laurel]

Relying on software to make BIOS level changes is sketchy

so just skip it

[shell void]

i will be old and grey before Asus launches the XG32UCWMG

[fervent elm]

+1 week until launch

[turbid locust]

Streamlined LTT Discord experience

[wraith steeple]

And I'll be either six feet under or ashes will be spread across the globe via the wind

[fervent scaffold]

Bootleg wifi and cable mess

[subtle bear]

that card looks really really wide lol

[fervent scaffold]

Kinda is, also bad pic lol

[subtle bear]

yea

[fervent scaffold]

This is whats in it

[subtle bear]

slim case?

[fervent scaffold]

Very much so

[subtle bear]

ah thats why

[fervent scaffold]

I thinks it’s whatever the lesser variant of mid tower is

Atx

I cant figure out how to get these things to share wifi

[subtle bear]

huh?

[fervent scaffold]

My PC has a wifi connection, the one on the ground has no way to connect, so I plugged the Ethernet into mine and the one with no wifi

Theres a way to share the wifi over Ethernet I just cant quite figure it out

[subtle bear]

this

?

[fervent scaffold]

Yes sorta

I allowed mine to share the WiFi over Ethernet

[fervent scaffold]

But its still not giving this other computer an internet connection

[subtle bear]

oh idk i didnt even know that was possbile

[fervent scaffold]

I only need to install windows on this other pc lmao

Thats the only reason im doing this

[subtle bear]

theres a way to skip intenret log in when installing windows

[fervent scaffold]

I saw but im giving this pc to a friend that has no clue

So I figured Id get it all updated and finished so he can just plug in and go

[subtle bear]

how come not just plug ethernet into the pc?

[fervent scaffold]

Dont have a long enough cord and router is too far

[subtle bear]

hmmm

[fervent scaffold]

Wouldn’t have a way to have a display by the router

[subtle bear]

its times like these which im glad i have portable monitors lol

powered by usb

[fervent scaffold]

I technically could

But it would be a shit load of work and moving shit around just to install windows

[subtle bear]

yea

your issue is you cant get into windows to actually set up network sharing on the new pc right?

[fervent scaffold]

I cant get the sharing in properties anymore for some reason

[subtle bear]

oh

[fervent scaffold]

So my pc is connected to wifi, I have an Ethernet connecting the two

Im just trying to get my pc to share wifi to the new one so I can finish installing windows

And update it and everything

[subtle bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_Irr5VZJ8

[subtle bear]

idk if youre missing settings, but this one seems straight forward

@fervent scaffold

[subtle bear]

wait does your main pc use an wifi adapter? if so steal it and slap it onto the new pc lol

[fervent scaffold]

Unfortunately no otherwise I would have already

Built into the mobo

[subtle bear]

this work for you?

[fervent scaffold]

I got it

[fervent scaffold]

Yes that was what helped, thanks

[subtle bear]

np

[fervent scaffold]

I watched 2 other vids too but they didnt work

[subtle bear]

did they have an indian accent?

if not thats probably why

[fervent scaffold]

Unfortunately not

[subtle bear]

yea thought so

[fervent scaffold]

That must be it

[subtle bear]

always find the tech viedeos with indian accent, they always work

short straight to point and always got your back

[fervent scaffold]

I did but they mostly just try to get me to extend my 25 year old cars warranty

[subtle bear]

😭

[fervent scaffold]

Ok this actually isnt working

[subtle bear]

ok nvm

[turbid locust]

wtf are you guys doing

[fervent scaffold]

Says the new pc is connected to internet, but every time I press next, just says lost connection

This is cancer

[subtle bear]

at this opint just move the setup to the routher lol

[fervent scaffold]

Ok now its randomly just working?

[turbid locust]

are you… trying to use the internet with an Ethernet connected to another pc…?

[subtle bear]

yes

[fervent scaffold]

Correct

[turbid locust]

That’s not how that shit works

[subtle bear]

😭

[fervent scaffold]

Actually it is

Its working now

[turbid locust]

[subtle bear]

it worked?!

epic

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah randomly decided to work this time

[subtle bear]

its because mac had doubt, and the pc felt offended

ty mac

[turbid locust]

inb4 windows just cached the update and is now sharing it over LAN and not actual internet

[subtle bear]

idk what that even means

[fervent scaffold]

It is 100% connected to internet

[turbid locust]

Hm I watched a little bit of that video and it seems legit but I’ve never heard of people doing that lol

[subtle bear]

me neither till now

[turbid locust]

my brain instantly went “how tf would that second machine get an IP from the DHCP server?” But 🤷‍♂️

[fervent scaffold]

Its working

Just finished setup now doing update

[subtle bear]

epic

indian tech tip internet man always got your back

[fervent scaffold]

I cant wait for this things new cpu cooler to be in

Stock intel coolers sound like rocks in a box

[subtle bear]

im hoping for my psu to get rma because this one sounds like rocks in a box too

[fervent scaffold]

Good lil beginner unit for him

[turbid locust]

Intel inside

[fervent scaffold]

I5 9400f unfortunately

Just a smokin deal

[turbid locust]

not enough ram sticks

[fervent scaffold]

Got literally everything minus gpu for $150

[turbid locust]

Can always grab a 10900k later

[subtle bear]

the ketchup mustard cables

[fervent scaffold]

New case, new psu, new nvme, new ram, used asrock z390 and used i5 9400f, all for $150 usd

[turbid locust]

wait a second

[subtle bear]

also is there a reason thata ll hdaudio cables are still ketchup mustard

[turbid locust]

9th and 10th gen weren’t on the same socket im high

[fervent scaffold]

No this mobo doesnt support 10th gen I think

[cobalt walrus]

What

[fervent scaffold]

Pretty sure I9 9900k is the highest this mobo supports

[turbid locust]

not as familiar with Intel sorry I corrected myself lmao

[fervent scaffold]

Everything is done

All updated and set up

Beautiful

[turbid locust]

I’ve owned one singular desktop Intel cpu and it’s currently in my pc so

I must learn the Intel sauce

[pure garnet]

not sure if i’d trust a 9900k on that board but it’s the theoretical max

[turbid locust]

naw full send it

There’s a couple VRMs in there

[pure garnet]

my main desktop has been primarily amd but skylakes memory controller sold me on buying raptor lake

then my i7 up and died lmao

i got my 3700x back from my sister on account of her board completely dying and it’s still incredibly unable to train memory reliably even at jedec

[turbid locust]

I’ve been on AMD since AM3

Bought the 14900K solely to experience Intel

[pure garnet]

i’m probably a bit younger but am4 was my first desktop, 2600x

[fervent scaffold]

I told him if he upgraded go I7

[turbid locust]

I started slow, once I got adult money I got upgrade-itus lmao

I have… too many AM4 CPUs lol

[pure garnet]

i got my first desktop by working 2 jobs at once in hs then buying parts the second a check came in

got my 3700x for free by trading in my old phone then bought a 5800x3d when i got the 3080 since it was holding it back

[fervent scaffold]

This pc is connected to internet, with the slowest connection ive ever seen lmfao

[turbid locust]

I think I currently have 6 or 7 AM4 CPUs in my possession

[fervent scaffold]

Says 52 minutes for 170mb

[turbid locust]

Have owned 8 or 9

[fervent scaffold]

Now says 1hr

[subtle bear]

my current pc is my first pc, but ive had many laptops before

[pure garnet]

i have 1, owned 4 if you count an ebay purchase that was retuned immediately as one

[turbid locust]

Once my brother upgrades I’m yoinking that 5600x I gave him back. That chip has a sick IMC.

[fervent scaffold]

Makes sense

[subtle bear]

i wana build more pcs

[pure garnet]

just kill his board

[turbid locust]

It’s a trap

[subtle bear]

😭

[frank cypress]

I've only had 3 😔

[turbid locust]

Was considering buying him a 5950x or something. He video edits and whatnot so could use the cores.

But atp I may just give him my extra AM5 board and throw a 9600x in it or something

[frank cypress]

might as well trade him your 14900k lol

has shit ton of cores + QS

[turbid locust]

Maybe once I’m done with it idk.

I have another China only board on the way so

[frank cypress]

u liking it so far?

or still undecided

[turbid locust]

The Mpower isn’t as good as I thought it was so it’s kinda been disappointing so far but hoping the new board will change that

As far as actual daily use, I can’t tell the difference in 99% of scenarios lol

[frank cypress]

sounds accurate

[turbid locust]

The dream is to daily above 8000MT/s for the flex 🙏🏼

[pure garnet]

that’s my dream on friday

i know it’s considerably easier on am5 but i want it

although my sisters board may be able to do it? i’ll try a second anyway since im building it (b650e-i)

[turbid locust]

My 7700x full power resets if I start any ram stress test at all on 8000MT/s lol

7800? Totally fine.

[pure garnet]

i clicked on an old bz ram buying video for background noise and he actually covered my exact kit and liked it

it does seem pretty nice since it’ll get into windows at ridiculously low voltages for high speeds

[turbid locust]

I purchased one of my ram kits based on a BZ video

And I’m glad I did because the kit almost immediately went EOL

[pure garnet]

my first kit was bought with no awareness but magically was h16a, michael helped me pick out my current iirc

i think i picked 6400 very intentionally since 7000 series couldn’t run it at xmp reliably

[turbid locust]

First kit I had was some random Samsung ic bullshit that came with my bundle. First real kit was H16M, and then I bought H16A after discovering my H16M kit was in fact H16M and couldn’t post above 6800 lol

[pure garnet]

wild how different h24m is

[turbid locust]

I have another green stick OEM H16A kit too that’s a surprisingly good bin

It did 6000 28-36-36 at like 1.35v iirc

[pure garnet]

i run 6000c30 at 1.3v atm but i was getting into windows at 8000 1.4v or so

[turbid locust]

Depends on timings really

[pure garnet]

i have the buildzoid h24m timings sheet to use as a reference

trying to get cl38 stable i think?

it’s not a performance gain at all but i’d rather just see 8000 for the hell id it

[turbid locust]

Im probably not gonna bother with a H24M kit until I own a platform that actually benefits from it

[pure garnet]

i bought it as a capacity upgrade but didn’t want dual rank

ended up just being this really weird different type setup now

[turbid locust]

just use 4 sticks

[pure garnet]

well i was under the impression the corsairs were dead

basically my pc was dying in games, ran occt, error error error, bought new modules, same issue, bought new board (idk what i was thinking here honestly), same issue, cpu was the issue

instead of returning everything else i ended up keeping it

[turbid locust]

lol rip

[wraith steeple]

Four Single rank DDR5 24 gig sticks getting those speed dims with down clocking for tighter timings sounds hot

[pure garnet]

then about a week later the raptor drama went out public

[turbid locust]

You see, most people don’t run 4 sticks because it lowers speeds

I don’t run 4 sticks because none of my motherboards have 4 dimm slots

We are not the same

[pure garnet]

i only got 4 dimmer budget

i’d love an apex but i can’t justify the cost in any way even with tuning being fun

[wraith steeple]

I wasn't being serious, but yeah mainstream DDR5 boards really should just have two dimm slots TBH

[turbid locust]

None of my 2 dimmer boards are worth over $200

[pure garnet]

i can’t join the itx life

[turbid locust]

None of my 2 dimmer boards are ITX

[pure garnet]

matx boards that fit in an nr200 may as well be itx

[wraith steeple]

mATX isn't too bad

[turbid locust]

mATX is pretty kewl

[pure garnet]

i could probably get away with an matx board but i enjoy my slots

that’s why i’m actually really excited for the tomahawk

[turbid locust]

I have a z790 AYW OC on the way though

Aka “Chinese Apex”

[pure garnet]

i can disable 2 useless usb c ports to run 3 nvme + gpu + my x550t2 at full speed

[fervent scaffold]

Z790 is what I have

[turbid locust]

Bro it’s 2:31am and I have to be up at like 8 lmao

[wraith steeple]

I'm on lunch break at work

[fervent scaffold]

That is also exactly what I am dealing with

2:31am and up at 7:30-8

[turbid locust]

yup

I have to ship a GPU later

[fervent scaffold]

If I dont my wife beats me up

[pure garnet]

oh who bought the xtx

hws?

[turbid locust]

some dude on HWS

[pure garnet]

now i gotta list my 4070

[fervent scaffold]

How much

What country

[pure garnet]

us

[fervent scaffold]

Lol

Ok how much

[pure garnet]

probably like 430ish

it’s a asus dual

[fervent scaffold]

8gb?

[pure garnet]

12gb

[fervent scaffold]

Oh wait

[pure garnet]

i didn’t know they even made an 8gb

[fervent scaffold]

Im dumb

I was looking for a reference and opened a 5060 asus dual

8gb 🤮

[turbid locust]

My 5070Ti is going up for sale the moment 60 series is announced lol

[fervent scaffold]

I JUST bought my 5070ti and feel a slight regret

Feel like I shoulda held off a bit longer

[turbid locust]

I don’t. I like mine. And I came from an XTX

[pure garnet]

wtf there’s a 4070 10gb

oh never released

[fervent scaffold]

But I feel at the same time I have a real solid balance

And I should just not touch my pos pc for the next 5 years if my 14th gen lives that long

[wraith steeple]

I wonder if Mr. Leather Jacket Man at Novideo will send me a 5090 FE for free for the lulz

[pure garnet]

i didn’t really need the performance bump but im really happy with the card

[turbid locust]

You know you can just… manual tune right

My 14900k doesn’t even see 1.3v VID

[pure garnet]

tbf i doubt a 14600k does often either

[fervent scaffold]

I only have a 14600k and I just did the bios flash immediately after I installed the brand new cpu

[turbid locust]

Then ur probably good

[fervent scaffold]

I assume I am

[turbid locust]

The protections are enabled by default

[fervent scaffold]

Not like i really have to worry much about this “lower” end 14th gen

[pure garnet]

unless you have an asus board that does really awful svid settings i wouldn’t worry about it

[fervent scaffold]

Even if I lose it, I’ll probably just get the i7

[pure garnet]

on intel defaults preset the board tries to fry my 12900ks

[fervent scaffold]

Msi z790 gaming wifi

[pure garnet]

like 1.5v vids on desktop

bonkers

[turbid locust]

My MSI board behaves so far

[turbid locust]

Well I mean 1.5v VID with no load isn’t that bad

[fervent scaffold]

I still overtalk about and laugh about the deal I got on my board

[pure garnet]

i change a couple settings (no undervolting) and it’s under 1.3 so

[turbid locust]

My 14900k was hitting 1.42-1.47v VID on two cores for 6Ghz stock settings

[pure garnet]

rn i can’t mess with that system though im using it for work

[turbid locust]

But I manually tuned so now they don’t even see 1.3v

I’m running like 5.6Ghz on P cores and 4.4Ghz on E cores, HT disabled

[fervent scaffold]

Can you believe i sold this pos for $350

[pure garnet]

i tried 5.4p cores but power draw went crazy

got the mac bin prebinned 12900k

[wraith steeple]

My 285K is smooth sailing

[turbid locust]

My 14900K does like 270W under stress tests

[pure garnet]

i have a 241w pl2 rn

[turbid locust]

Or Minecraft mods

[pure garnet]

at 5.4 it was doing like 320

[turbid locust]

Oh both my power limits are set to 4096W lmao

[pure garnet]

i probably could’ve tamed it but i didn’t feel like messing with it

[wraith steeple]

And nothing but solid on air

[pure garnet]

my p14 pros are still a week out from delivery

so i have broken corsair fans on my rad atm

[turbid locust]

I’m running an OG LF3 360 and it’s fine

Gets warm under stress tests but runs nice and cool under actual use

[pure garnet]

i have a 280 but it’s just not able to move air off it

[frank cypress]

unfortunately I believe they default to intel fail safe

[pure garnet]

they do

[frank cypress]

which is code for fry your cpu svid behaviour

[pure garnet]

it feels like malicious compliance

[frank cypress]

frick u asus

[frank cypress]

100%

[turbid locust]

As soon as my AYW OC comes im just gonna insta manual tune my cpu again so

Won’t get the Asus experience

[pure garnet]

i’ve been on am5 so long now trying to configure my intel system feels foreign

[wraith steeple]

#BringBackABit

[turbid locust]

Imagine this but you had never touched Intel before ever

that was me about 2 weeks ago

[pure garnet]

honestly we’re probably equal skill on my current board

[turbid locust]

Now we manual tune and disable CEP

[pure garnet]

my z790 tomahawk was easy to mess with loadline and stuff in

[turbid locust]

(don’t disable CEP if you aren’t manual tuning)

[pure garnet]

the asus bios is nicer but i never dug around with it

[wraith steeple]

ABit was a legend. Their boards were often times more premium than Asus I may argue

[turbid locust]

The AYW OC has the wack ass blue Asus bios which sucks but lol whatever

[frank cypress]

anything is nicer than msi bios

[pure garnet]

pretty sure i have cep off but i also undervolted back then

[frank cypress]

msi bios feels ugly af

[pure garnet]

the new msi bios is honestly really nice

but the one on the z790 was hot trash

[wraith steeple]

It is but they have this annoying habit of renaming settings because reasons

[frank cypress]

ok fair, haven't experienced it myself

[turbid locust]

the bios on my mpower is totally fine

[frank cypress]

my x570/x570s/z690 all had the same look

[frank cypress]

I just hate how it looks

[turbid locust]

The worst bios I have ever used is my Asrock B650 HDV lmao

[pure garnet]

do you have the sleek one or the 6 tabs

asrock bios feels worse than the default gray one at times honestly

[narrow gate]

[pure garnet]

especially if you end up with a weird oem sku they made

[turbid locust]

Asrock bios is hatecrime

[narrow gate]

Msi has the most easiest one to look by

🙂

[turbid locust]

I think my favorite bios is Gigabytes Aorus

[pure garnet]

yeah i never tried geardownmode off on my asus board because its renamed something completely different

[wraith steeple]

AwardBIOS goes hard

[frank cypress]

I dont care if its functionally better or more efficient it just looks ugly xd

[turbid locust]

Asus pisses me off with this shit

[frank cypress]

[pure garnet]

i have an irrational hatred of every single gigabyte product because my b550i aorus pro was the worst motherboard i’ve ever owned

[indigo walrus]

I miss this so much. Back when the POST process would actually provide useful diagnostic information.

[pure garnet]

it would constantly require cmos resets to boot and had 0 debug leds of any kind to help diagnose boot issues

[frank cypress]

I wonder if they got rid of it because of standard consumers

[wraith steeple]

Literally every custom built PC from circa 1994 - 2003

[turbid locust]

From a previous message of mine in #overclocking : “Every other bios will have shit called “Fork” and it would be listed as “4ProngEatingUtensil” in Asus bios”

[pure garnet]

yeah gear down mode is called “ADDR_CMD_Mode”

[narrow gate]

Ddr5 name is even shittier for it

Mobile moment

[turbid locust]

Dee Dee Arr fiev

[pure garnet]

i couldn’t find nitro either but that may have been skill issue

didn’t bother fine tuning anything when the board sucks to oc with

[turbid locust]

me w my mpower rn

[wraith steeple]

Also sure there were no seven segments display but at least the BIOS will let you know why it isn't booting and actually explained it without being vague

[turbid locust]

AM5 boards are hilarious with this

code will be like “idk system sad 😔”

Also no real safe boot lmao

I think I’ve seen safe boot work one time on AM5

[pure garnet]

it only works if you set settings that are completely cooked

like when i accidentally set trfc to 25

if it’s trainable but voltages unstable it won’t do anything

[turbid locust]

Dude my Asrock B650 HDV bios? shits really funny.

[pure garnet]

like my bios was artifacting when i hit load defaults

[turbid locust]

It reads my EXPO ram kit with all timings +1

Like the kit is 6000 26-36-36 right

Asrock reads and loads it as 27-37-37

[pure garnet]

what the hell

[turbid locust]

Unreal shit lmao

[pure garnet]

wouldn’t gdm then make it process as 28-38-38

i thought gdm rounds up odd timing values

[narrow gate]

Usually yes

[wraith steeple]

Mix of both wacky American Megatrends Inc. (AMI) and AMD stuff I would imagine

[turbid locust]

I need to get an external dimm slot so I can start writing SPDs

I want to write XMP profiles to my kits that don’t have them

[wraith steeple]

There were three main BIOS' back then:
AwardBIOS, PhenioxBIOS (what you saw in Intel reference boards and OEM board, which were Intel reference boards with some added stuff thrown in and custom boot logo), and AMI

Back when you could throw in an AMD CPU to an Intel chip based board

[fervent scaffold]

You need to go to bed

[frank cypress]

didnt amd start off making chips for intel?

being outsourced or whatever

[wraith steeple]

Yep they were basically licensed by Intel for a bit before the Am386s became a thing..... And that ended up being in a lawsuit over the 386 name. Even Cyrix was targeted

As for IBM Blue Lightning and Texas Instruments CPUs for computers, they were basically made by Cyrix

And the courts sided with Cyrix and AMD as we see their 486 chips

90s Big Blue had a history of playing dirty and unfair stuff against their competitors

[frank cypress]

never left

[wraith steeple]

Yeah... Also wouldn't surprise me if they were somewhat behind why very early AMD boards from the Slot A and Socket A era face glaring QC issues. Intel had always been known for playing dirty and being discreet about it

[frank cypress]

actually aren't they still fighting eu over antitrust fines lol

[merry stirrup]

asus*

asus has always had weird names for things lowk

[brisk jolt]

“asus XG32…. y’know what fuck me-“

[merry stirrup]

i think they started via a clone of the 8080

so not exactly for intel ^

[frank cypress]

ough

150 doll hair quadro 4000 hmm

[merry stirrup]

ooh

not bad not bad esp since that’s car

i could let my buddy know about it

[frank cypress]

i kinda want it but i vowed

no more turding (that is not tu102)

[merry stirrup]

fair

is it close?

[frank cypress]

yes

[merry stirrup]

my friend is interested

[frank cypress]

aoigjahhqhv I just remembered

[merry stirrup]

do you want his discord?

[frank cypress]

new tariffs n shit

[merry stirrup]

oh really? how bad

[frank cypress]

bad, but starts August 29th?

[merry stirrup]

oh he could prolly pay rn

[frank cypress]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/suspending-duty-free-de-minimis-treatment-for-all-countries/

[frank cypress]

well I need to talk to the guy on fbm

[merry stirrup]

okie

i’ll have him friend you

he’s the one who bought the 5600 combo from me

[frank cypress]

oo

[merry stirrup]

and he actually paid for the whole bundle and i’m paying him back lol

[frank cypress]

oke I'll prolly go look into it tmrw

[merry stirrup]

get paid tomorrow 🙏

[frank cypress]

I slep now

[frank cypress]

oh shit the bdie

the word paid made me remember

im like a sleeper agent

[merry stirrup]

LMAO

bro got activated

[frank cypress]

I think we went through this a couple times

"hey I got bdie, r u interested"
"shit I get paid soon remind me"
"oke" promptly forgets

cyclical

[merry stirrup]

me as well it’s okay

[frank cypress]

if ur interested I can toss it in the package if ur friend is buying the card

since it's not gonna add much weight

I think after shipping tho it'd be close to 180~ cad for the card

[merry stirrup]

my broski lives like 12 hours away

where i used to live

[frank cypress]

which is a little bit uncomfortably expensive for a quadro 4000

[frank cypress]

ah

not to mention exchange rate, so maybe 185/190 cad

[merry stirrup]

he just bought a 1660s for 100US locally so i think hed be fine for that

[frank cypress]

argh

that is wild

[merry stirrup]

yeah hes transitioning from a free pc i gave him to something way better

new case new everything

[frank cypress]

idk turding in big 25 tho

its not unusuable cause dlss but...

[merry stirrup]

i mean its what my mom has and playscod on

[frank cypress]

not sure if worth buying other than for compute

[frank cypress]

yah but inf. value by virtue of free

[merry stirrup]

gotta consider avg pc is still like a 3060, so a 2070 in gaming power isnt far off

[frank cypress]

probably close to a 2060/2060s no?

cause low power

[merry stirrup]

nah i tested

[frank cypress]

oh word?

[merry stirrup]

its about 100w worth of 2070 super die

[frank cypress]

faster than I thought tbh

[merry stirrup]

which puts it at basiccally a 2070

[merry stirrup]

me too lowkey its not so bad

i played games on it just fine im sure my roomamte with a 2070s wouldnt be that disappointed

its only sad cause you cant oc on quadro drivers

so any gains come via a power mod

[frank cypress]

:o

[merry stirrup]

would be a decent gain considering im giving him 150 back for the 5600 combo and he can resell the 1660s

[brisk jolt]

god istg my guy’s pc knowledge is all from fucking tiktok

“uh so yk how my 5700x3d is now way stronger than my 3060ti”

[hybrid basalt]

the 5700x3d sucks because its amd

[zenith apex]

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1952732206176112915

Logan Kilpatrick (@OfficialLoganK)

Introducing Genie 3, the most advanced world simulator ever created, enabled by numerous research breakthroughs. 🤯

Featuring high fidelity visuals, 20-24 fps, prompting on the go, world memory, and more.

X · Aug 5, 2025, 2:03 PM

Everyday the simulation theory becomes more real

TLDR
It's like the AI Minecraft thing
But it's actually good.

Game engine level kind of good

[silent fox]

Will this cable handle 3440x1440 at 240Hz?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09W4SZMMF/?coliid=I1X46RQMBAO6VQ&colid=IQCS5QWQP0C6&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

[drowsy pumice]

While playing games my CPU and GPU stick around 50-60°C, should I leave my fan curve as it is or can I lower it so the pc is quieter?

[karmic folio]

50-60c is not hot

[subtle bear]

thats normal temp, if anything more on the colder side

[scarlet iron]

That's literally the temperature water boils at

[subtle bear]

what 😭

[scarlet iron]

Yeah man

[karmic folio]

new discovery

[topaz veldt]

It does boil at 50C

In a vacuum

[brittle trellis]

...

[steel stream]

for a computer those are some fine temps

[edgy laurel]

In listed specs, yes. But given the no name random brand, who knows.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LGOLED/s/IfeSOkFxU0

[steel stream]

lucky bastard

[cold bone]

somebody explain to me why my unifi dream machine claims it detected a network loop when i patched an ethernet wall port through to a switch

[edgy laurel]

What a deal

[cold bone]

i hooked up a network tester to make sure the port on the patch panel actually points to the one on the wall... although the LEDs for pin 4 and 5 didn't blink... not sure what that means

twisted pair, i assume but it's been sooo long since i learned that stuff at school. Maybe i pulled the wrong ethernet cables out of the box. But even then... this shouldn't generate a loop

hmm... maybe this was just a false alarm... the warning is gone now

[edgy laurel]

hopefully this has cleared up by the time i get home tomorrow evening

[steel stream]

damn

[subtle bear]

aint no way

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel Tell all the English boys you meet about the American boy back in the states

[edgy laurel]

I never really did understand the name of that song

[topaz veldt]

No?

[edgy laurel]

but now its going to be stuck in my head and i'm ok with that

well I do know lol

[topaz veldt]

Lol og

Never going to get it right. Never going to get it

[edgy laurel]

Its so funny listening to these songs now and the nostalgia. Life was so simple

[topaz veldt]

Yup

[frank zealot]

dude, that dumbass trying to pump the shitty no-name SATA 128GB was... whoa

[turbid locust]

XTX leaves my house today yayyyyy

[brisk jolt]

leaves ur house to be stolen by UPS

[turbid locust]

I love how all of TC2 continuously prays on my downfall

[brisk jolt]

thats the fun in it

[topaz veldt]

feels good right?

[topaz veldt]

I am lifting you up brother mac

[turbid locust]

The money in my bank account? Yes

The idea that I had a 700 dollar paperweight on my desk for a couple months?

[topaz veldt]

nah the hardware in a box on the floor - i would honestly consign someone to just sell my excess shit for me

I have like three or four 750-1000W PSUs with no purpose. They're heavy, annoying to box, check the cables are in there, and list/sell.... and its not for the money its so I don't have 4 PSUs literally sitting around. But its like almost no money, so I don't do it.

[turbid locust]

Any of em SFX?

[topaz veldt]

None of em

[turbid locust]

Damn

[topaz veldt]

I only have one SFX and its the SFF1000 which I use

[brisk jolt]

ugh reminds me

some1s still using my sf850

[edgy laurel]

🤷‍♂️ normal clueless people

[edgy laurel]

last I saw no one wanted it so congrats

[brisk jolt]

nobody here would touch a XTX ever again themselves

[frank zealot]

like, what? in what 2025 world is a 128gb SATA SSD something you'd ever want to buy

[topaz veldt]

this read kind of brutal lol

[topaz veldt]

ultra crazy budget nerds

[frank zealot]

but that's still a terrible thing to buy

it's SO easy to overfill a 128gb drive

[topaz veldt]

I don't disagree but there are people in here still building 5600 and 1660s and shit

[arctic bronze]

I pray for the xtx to be broken via transit 🙏

[topaz veldt]

wtf

[frank zealot]

a 5600 isn't terrible, at least.

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

[brisk jolt]

Honestly if any friend asked me to build them I’d in the very least shove a 8400f in their face

[arctic bronze]

Im just continuing the joke

[frank zealot]

Sure AM4 is a dead end platform, but a 5600's at least still functional

[turbid locust]

Nah you’re right

[arctic bronze]

My 5600x goin strong in my rack mount computer

[steel stream]

builds character

[arctic bronze]

(Its only there to manage my 2 switches)

[topaz veldt]

a 128GB SSD is still functional too...

[brisk jolt]

I would buy an XTX if i was stupid as f-

[arctic bronze]

Barely

[hoary hatch]

Router 🤔

[brisk jolt]

nah bro u gotta get those 16tb ssds for like 20 bucks

[arctic bronze]

Yeah it works, but you cant do much

[frank zealot]

functional is... potentially generous

[topaz veldt]

I would venture to say that 95% of the 12,000+ VMs we run are < 50GB on disk

[hoary hatch]

Yeah that's the only use I can find for a 128gb; for router host

[topaz veldt]

They generate oodles of revenue

I bet I use < 100GB on my mbp

[arctic bronze]

What does

[topaz veldt]

a 50GB VM

[steel stream]

explain how

[topaz veldt]

expl- what

[steel stream]

How to make money

[topaz veldt]

lol

[arctic bronze]

@topaz veldt also, rate the meal prep burrito.

Ingredients:
Low carb tortilla
Lean beef meat
Red potatos
Roma tomatos
Red bell peper
White onion
Taco bell taco seasoning
Paprika

[brisk jolt]

our dear akn wants to get the knowledge to get his 4070 out and a 5070ti in

[topaz veldt]

im not big into burritos but i don't want lean ones

[brisk jolt]

shove some iron in it and pull the tr-

[steel stream]

yes

[hollow hull]

it needs something crunchy other than onion

iceberg lettuce

also red beans

[topaz veldt]

brown beans?

[steel stream]

rabbit poop

[edgy laurel]

fresh bell pepper is crunchy

[granite dirge]

I'm trying to figure out where I'm ordering out from today. I'm thinking something... Beef cause Ive had chicken for like every meal since Saturday

[hoary hatch]

Ingredients: taco bell

[shell void]

MY BODY IS READY https://youtu.be/NHkBKIFZa34?si=hKb2qTc35pCz8rTO

[arctic bronze]

Its for weight loss

[steel stream]

I think the issue is that a meal prepped burrito when microwaved will make anything inside not crunchy

[hoary hatch]

I need to meal prep some breakfast sandwiches or something

[granite dirge]

My body is not. Because I fell yesterday off my bed last night and everything still hurts.

[shell void]

that frickin sux

[hoary hatch]

Lately I've been into omelettes for breakfast; but they aren't quick 😔

[granite dirge]

On the positive. I'm getting the old lady shuffle down pat

[brisk jolt]

lately ive been into spicy stuff

[steel stream]

wat

[arctic bronze]

Lmao

[hoary hatch]

Anthony I make for breakfast is a vessel for hot sauce

Anything*

[fringe vigil]

Bish

[granite dirge]

That's one of the ways to clean a potentiometer

[brisk jolt]

mala.
MAX SPICY.

https://tenor.com/view/maruzensky-gif-21261473

[granite dirge]

It's common in electric bass/guitars to clean it up akn876

[edgy laurel]

lmao mine is like this. garbage pots

[steel stream]

but would it really do something if I haven't moved the pot in a while?

[edgy laurel]

you're literally cleaning the contacts by twisting it back and forth

[granite dirge]

Usually yes

[shell void]

analog pots are stupid

[edgy laurel]

i don't change the volume on my magni ever, but if I do, its scratchy and horrible

[steel stream]

This is aimed at Schiit not the people helping me, fuckers

[shell void]

they’re fragile, lower fidelity, and cause channel imbalance

[edgy laurel]

ya, if its real bad it may cut out one channel until you fiddle with it. just terrible

[granite dirge]

I mean... The last potentiometer I bought was at RadioShack so that statement checks Michael

[shell void]

oh i am definitely buying the XG32UCWMG

[steel stream]

What's happening to the C4?

[shell void]

it’ll replace the 48” LG A2 at my bed tv setup

not sure what i’ll do with the A2

[brisk jolt]

eh its only hdr400

[hoary hatch]

I just alternate between Cholula and Sriracha depending on the dish

[shell void]

i don’t use HDR on pc

[hoary hatch]

$5

[brisk jolt]

oh

[hoary hatch]

Ya know what I'll bid $6

[shell void]

it’s definitely not a flawless product but i’m not coping on 144Hz for another 12 months

[shell void]

okay i’ll take note

highest bid so far

[hoary hatch]

$7 final offer I know what you got

[hoary hatch]

Damn I forgot this shit is 90% tortilla

[steel stream]

so yummy

[turbid locust]

Think UPS just scammed my ass but idgaf atp

[brisk jolt]

$10 including shipping

[arctic bronze]

Mine is 90% not tortilla lmao

Mine is stuffed to the brim

[hoary hatch]

I'll pay $12 shipped

Hindsight I'm kinda upset for sleeping on that Samsung deal a while back

[steel stream]

ehich one

[brisk jolt]

honestly i might just go with the LG version

[hoary hatch]

65" QD-OLED going for under $700 or something cause best buy wasn't moving enough

S90B or something?

[steel stream]

sounds about right

would be 2023 model

[hoary hatch]

That sounds right

[shell void]

it was probably S90C

[brisk jolt]

what are yall thoughts on dolby vision

[hoary hatch]

May have been more like $600

[shell void]

S90B wasn’t a thing

[hoary hatch]

Perchance

[shell void]

pain in the ass in windows

[young void]

G8 open box availables at $687
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/samsung-32-odyssey-oled-g8-g80sd-4k-uhd-240hz-0-03ms-smart-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-silver/6573686/openbox?condition=1&sb_share_source=PDP, and 32 lg 4k oleds also on open box ❤️

[steel stream]

it's cool

[shell void]

works well for watching streaming content on low end tvs

[brisk jolt]

like wdyt about HDR10 vs dolby vision

[steel stream]

But it is a nightmare for streaming and home media servers

[shell void]

well pretty much only LG and Hisense

nobody else does DV streaming well

[shell void]

just use HDR10 on PC

[brisk jolt]

thanks g

[hoary hatch]

I don't use HDR on pc

[shell void]

same

[hoary hatch]

HDR true black 400 isn't enough

[edgy laurel]

speaking of that DV option in Windows disappeared for me @steel stream

[steel stream]

Oh I thought this was for watching on a TV or smth, just use HDR

[young void]

I havent maxed my brightness to see if mines any good yet

[hoary hatch]

I would very much like to use HDR, but I think true black 600 is absolute minimum and ideally 1000

[brisk jolt]

nah man i dont use the tv lmao

[steel stream]

tbh DV just isn't needed for windows rn, I can only imagine what a headache it would be

[edgy laurel]

yeah I don't know what problem that was trying to solve. it just doesn't work

[steel stream]

With HDR sliders and calibration I have no idea what DV would do

[edgy laurel]

Theoretically, we know, but we have a long way to go

[frank zealot]

Guilty, Friday Linus mentioned being in a Movie (and then potentially cut from it, too)?

snickers

This is the movie he mentioned:

[edgy laurel]

Media/games designed with variable HDR metadata in mind but lets just focus on static for now and get that working well

[steel stream]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

yeah I briefly saw something about that movie, linus and it being bad

didn't really dig into it

[frank zealot]

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war_of_the_worlds_2025
Currently:

0% Critic
17% Fan

[steel stream]

give us the directors cut

[frank zealot]

Z E R O
PERCENT

how... how do you

[steel stream]

with Linus

[frank zealot]

His acting clearly can't be worse than that

[hoary hatch]

Give us no cut

Can Amazon get a refund on this

[edgy laurel]

yeah I kinda just went "huh" in my head and kept scrolling

[hoary hatch]

I'd rather watch kpop demon hunters on Netflix smh

[frank zealot]

Keep that Anime's name outta your damned mouth

That was a good flick

[hoary hatch]

Isn't it legally not anime

I thought anime was 2D

[frank zealot]

IDC the legality specifics, and I don't care.
It's intented to be an anime

nope, there's plenty of 3d anime

as CG takes over more from hand drawn, we're getting more 3d

[hoary hatch]

It's technically not anime but it borrows heavily from anime tropes

Also sony pictures animation (plz forgive if I got the studio wrong) has done some wonderful looking pieces lately

Kpop demon hunters
Spiderverse
Mitchells and the machines

All gorgeous films

[brisk jolt]

What even is ts

[frank zealot]

a movie that Linus was supposed to be a supporting character in

but apparently his parts ended up on the editing room floor

[brisk jolt]

war of the worlds sounds like a terrible name

[frank zealot]

blinks

You do realize that the world didn't spawn into existence in 2001, right?

[edgy laurel]

[frank zealot]

why is there grey goo leaking out of my ear?

[edgy laurel]

uuugh

[frank zealot]

Do you think I should tell him about Radio?

Or is that too advanced?

[hoary hatch]

Beuh

[edgy laurel]

speaking of radio and TWOTW

[hoary hatch]

I read the book a couple times in middle school

[turbid locust]

We blastin Timbaland today

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[frank zealot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)

[edgy laurel]

yuuup

[brisk jolt]

icl i just searched it up and I saw the 2005 one, it looks familiar as fuck

[hoary hatch]

That's the one with Tom Cruise?

Yeah it is

[turbid locust]

Guys I had a dream last night I had tREFI control on AM4

[hoary hatch]

I've seen bits and pieces of it

[brisk jolt]

Yes, looked at some of the scenes and it deadass feels like some movie I watched years ago

[strange oak]

hey guys, my PC shows no display on boot, though everything powers on—fans, lights, etc. It only boots properly after being off for several hours. Restarts work fine, but if I shut it down and turn it on again soon after, there's no display. I think it's GPU-related.

[frank zealot]

because they're all based on a story by HG Wells, who was one of the best sci fi writers

[edgy laurel]

Required reading. Then make sure to post in #1027757333117415424 https://linustechtips.com/topic/42440-readme-how-to-respond-to-a-no-post-or-no-power-up-situation/

[merry stirrup]

meow

[wise bear]

mewo

[strange oak]

i hv posted a longer msg there! pls check if u can

[frank zealot]

mornin

[wise bear]

I am awakey

[frank zealot]

overrated

[frank zealot]

I've been awakey for way too long already.

Fucking cats woke me up at 4:15 and I haven't been back to sleep yet

[hoary hatch]

Can't believe Amazon did that to his story

[wise bear]

[granite dirge]

is cm to mm, x100 or x10?

[merry stirrup]

“i decided the safest option was to stay out of his way”

[merry stirrup]

10 then 100 for cm to m

[frank zealot]

10

10 mm = 1cm
10 cm = 1 dm
10 dm = 100 cm = 1M

[granite dirge]

is 115MM on each side, a good amount of air intake?

[frank zealot]

(yes decimeter is an actual measurement unit, just not one that gets used especially often)

[wise bear]

i love this

[frank zealot]

4ish inches for intake is probably fine

[hollow hull]

12cm is good

[wise bear]

deci = 10!!

I always find it funny when people want to decimate something
Like you just want to reduce x by 1/10?

[hollow hull]

(10!)! is insanely huge number

[granite dirge]

thinking of removing the top center board to fit, the 440 mm wide case, in

[hollow hull]

what am I looking at

[granite dirge]

an ikea kallax 2x2's dimensions,

[granite dirge]

just not sure if its the right amount of space,

as my case intakesfrom front and left, and exhauses right and rear

[arctic bronze]

The answer is greater than 0 but less than 200

[frank zealot]

punch a couple holes in the back and add a usb fan intake and exhaust?

[granite dirge]

there is no back?

[hollow hull]

I see, looks like an interesting project

[frank zealot]

to the kallax?

[granite dirge]

kallax are open back

[brisk jolt]

“how to spark a war on reddit”

[granite dirge]

its literally making sure, it has enough space for the case, a gd-11 in the kallax for intake

[frank zealot]

in that case, you're probably fine

[wise bear]

fuck ur math its 120

[granite dirge]

judging by the ikea dimensions, its, 77cm a little more than that since, the board it self is not there,

and then, the case is 440mm, per silverstone website

so i think, my math is right ill have like, 125mm on each side?

[frank zealot]

that is also correct, but so is the image

[brisk jolt]

fuck the 3 of you the answer is “more than 1”

[granite dirge]

i really hate that they didnt teach metric in school i have no idea how to use it like this

[frank zealot]

~115mm yeah

[hollow hull]

look at it again

[granite dirge]

and thats enouugh space for intake/ exhaust for a case?

[frank zealot]

should be

[granite dirge]

well, i may have a solution then and only need to spend like 30$ to posisbly resolve this...

[hollow hull]

ideally about 6 inches or 15cm on both ends, but like 10cm realistically enough too

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream should weigh in

[granite dirge]

im lost...

[frank zealot]

you're just bad at math

[young void]

Im so tired lol

[steel stream]

both answers are correct

[young void]

After calculus sequencing what's the point

[edgy laurel]

well i have no idea how that works but i'll trust you

[frank zealot]

one is just the "I'm a jerk who knows not helpful math tricks" answer

[young void]

Oh just 10÷2

[brisk jolt]

its just different ways math was taught lmao

[young void]

But no pemdas

[frank zealot]

incorrect

[granite dirge]

im so confused now, so 115mm clearence is not enought, and i need 6inches, or 15 cm oir 10cm, .... which is it that i need?

[hollow hull]

it can be 5! it's just that it can also be 120 too

[brisk jolt]

as i said, how to start a war on reddit

[hollow hull]

it is enough

[young void]

Why 5?

[edgy laurel]

is this some core math bullshit

[frank zealot]

120 = 5!

[frank zealot]

negative, we learned it in the 90's

[young void]

Yeah some dumb rule i forgot thats applicable in probs .001 situations

[steel stream]

5! denotes 5 factorial, meaning you multiply the number by all lower numbers till one, so 5x4x3x2x1 which equals 120

[hollow hull]

5! = 5*4*3*2*1 = 120

[edgy laurel]

its 120, unless I was lied to

[frank zealot]

it is. 5! = 120 as I said

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-this-done-angry-mad-hell-naw-gif-13088053

[young void]

Whats the reasoning though

What does 5! Mean

[steel stream]

factorial

[hollow hull]

5 factorial

[frank zealot]

5 Factorial

[young void]

Oh ok

[hollow hull]

alone, it's only found in like taylor/maclaurin series ig

[brisk jolt]

1: find the speed of the truck speeding towards you
2: the velocity of the impact
3: the probability of you surviving

[edgy laurel]

oh so this is just some bullshit

[young void]

Intergers... gross

[steel stream]

It's used a lot in taylor series or Discrete Structures

Any sort of series really

[edgy laurel]

yeah I don't know what that means

[pure garnet]

every single math problem posted on the internet is designed to cause a discussion

[frank zealot]

what is the angle of the front of the truck, and how tall is it

[young void]

Sequencing on top

[hollow hull]

but you see it much much more often in combinations and permutations

literally what it is

[brisk jolt]

more than 1
more than 1
0%
more than 1
more than 1

[frank zealot]

and honestly:

Most of it is only because they use the division symbol poorly, and that makes answers difficult (to impossible) to answer correctly

[steel stream]

yup

[pure garnet]

that or they’ll remove parenthesis to obscure it

[vestal granite]

its because people dont pemdas properly

[steel stream]

yeah that's pretty much it

[vestal granite]

you see, its M & D, A & S not M -> D -> A -> S

[frank zealot]

sometimes, but more often than not it's the ÷ symbol

[vestal granite]

if division comes before the multiplication its still calculated first even though the D is after the M in the pemdases

[brisk jolt]

who tf started this fire

[edgy laurel]

not billy joel

[brisk jolt]

tkitch ur the culrpit

[vestal granite]

we didnt start the fire

[brisk jolt]

stop adding fuel ppl

[frank zealot]

no

[vestal granite]

it was always burning since the worlds been turning, quite frankly

[edgy laurel]

beat me to it

[brisk jolt]

well

[hollow hull]

it's time you go back to calculus II

[vestal granite]

never went

[young void]

10 years after being in school I've used that 0 times buttttt maybe one day

[steel stream]

No I already passed that class and don't want to do it again

[young void]

Thank god mitochondria is the power house of the cell

[vestal granite]

i dropped out after pre-algebra so fuck all yall with your math

[young void]

Useless ass syllabus

[edgy laurel]

ffs its the example on the wiki page

[brisk jolt]

thank god a square plus b square equals c square

[vestal granite]

factorials are just excited numbers you ever think about that

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-locket-quadratic-formula-formula-quadratic-gif-17389447399699544686

[scarlet iron]

Kebab helps climate I think everyone should eat some kebab

[whole coral]

Yay finally i might get a Holter monitor

[hollow hull]

kebab and microplastics mmmm

[whole coral]

Gonna catch heart palpitations

[vestal granite]

im gonna be perfectly honest i have no idea what the hell that could possibly be

[young void]

Once I got here everything became meh forgot a ton of old rules

[brisk jolt]

let it be 2077 and instead of blood we go on immunosupressants

[vestal granite]

yeah the answer is 7

thousand

[young void]

It's answered pretty sure good as it gets lol just simplifying

[frank zealot]

this is why the ÷ symbol is never supposed to be used, it makes equations really hard to define:

[edgy laurel]

i thought chatgpt would have my back against the heretical math. I was wrong.

[young void]

Without context yiss

[frank zealot]

if things are properly isolated with parenthesis? Sure, go for it.

But rarely are things

[vestal granite]

this is why math is sucks cause like if i just knew what i had 230 of and what i used 220 of then id easily be able to tell whether or not its supposed to be divided by 2 like what am i doin the math for you know

[young void]

Used to be pretty good but how time gets ya

[verbal berry]

first tc2 message kinda nervous

[vestal granite]

its ok we're nice here

[brisk jolt]

Idk the fucking math method name but the priority is (), multiply, divide, plus then minus which was what I was taught here

[vestal granite]

tech-chat-1 on the other hand will murder you

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-the-unicorn-shun-the-non-believer-gif-3479764

[brisk jolt]

TC1 is murder, public chat is a straight public execution

[frank zealot]

there are a few names, including PEMDAS or BEDMAS

[vestal granite]

i go into tech-chat-1 and everytime i do theres either a ruckus or i cause a ruckus

[steel stream]

I <3 matrix algebra

[whole coral]

It’s basically a portable EKG that you wear for like 48 hours. Occasionally 7 days

[edgy laurel]

Its so easy to cause one. Just correct the first wrong thing someone says which is usually immediately.

[whole coral]

It’s pretty easy to setup and take off

[vestal granite]

or say some wrong stuff then when people agree say haha i lied youre wrong

think for yourselves tech-chat-1

[young void]

In the end its just so we can learn to create our own functions for our own contexts (and for the occasional asspiring mathematician). Math has alot of uses depending what you're up to

As long as you get the basics you'll be alright

Most carpenters I've met may not know calculus but man is their geometry spot on

Just depends what clicks with you

[steel stream]

Honestly geometry is probably the most important math class for most people

[vestal granite]

i could never be a carpenter triangles scare me