tech-chat-2

[minor herald]

dont change anything apart for just lowering to ddr5 6000

unless you messsed with shit in bios

in that case reset the bios

[noble urchin]

i dont wanna reset bios, my perfect PBO settings are very good, give me extra 10% performance or higher for less temps and power

[minor herald]

RESET THE BIOS

since PBO can very easly make crash

so can ram overclock

[noble urchin]

well my pbo never cause crashing

[minor herald]

LOL

[noble urchin]

i tested it for weeks

[minor herald]

and did you mess with ram after?

[noble urchin]

basic ram stuff.

[minor herald]

https://tenor.com/bfKYp.gif

just resset the bios

[noble urchin]

hell nah, i cant

[minor herald]

if you mess with ram it changes all the CO vaules

[noble urchin]

co?

[minor herald]

curve opmizer

[noble urchin]

ram has curve optimizer?

[minor herald]

no

[noble urchin]

then it doesnt mess with it

[minor herald]

lets say cpu can do -30 allcore stable then i get fancy 1200mhz ram since i had 800mhz before
now only -25 is stable

i had that happen to me and other in #overclocking meany times

[noble urchin]

with ram settings all ive done is enable EXPO, set the speed aswell manually to the speed, and memory training is skipped for faster boot times

[minor herald]

and that can easly brake PBO settings

[noble urchin]

not for me

[minor herald]

welp i not going to help if you cant remove PBO settings

[noble urchin]

why do i need to do that?

[minor herald]

sicne i dont trust them if where messing with ram

[noble urchin]

i mean that wasnt the case with my other system

i had the same ram speed & pbo settings for 4 years and it was fine. the reason for crash was the limit of the silicon 😄

but that was AM4 & ddr4

[minor herald]

have fun on your own then

[noble urchin]

i asked for simple hardware questions, and it went to reset my bios cause the ram can tweak the pbo. which is true, but it didnt

[minor herald]

ddr5 6400 offen dose not work in 1;1 on 7000/9000 cpus

[noble urchin]

i was aware with that, and worked until it randomly started crashing, and even with latest bios updates & firmware didnt help

but these crashes occured like once a month or like once every 2 weeks, so i didnt care

[minor herald]

run VT3 for a bit and see if scores are all the same

[noble urchin]

VT3?

[minor herald]

y cuncher workload

[noble urchin]

generating digits of pi will determine my stability?

cuz im not following

[minor herald]

math

shit loads of math

[noble urchin]

doesnt give me an answer what i was looking for

[minor herald]

.

[noble urchin]

i have to create account for VT3, hell nah

[minor herald]

if there drops/fails offen means unstable offen very hard on memory system

[minor herald]

? you dont its free sharewhere

[noble urchin]

not for me ig

[minor herald]

what site you on

[noble urchin]

idfk

i never heard of these apps

the pi one i have

[minor herald]

?

[noble urchin]

?

[minor herald]

https://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/#Download

[noble urchin]

thats how much im not following

[minor herald]

is this not the site you on?

[noble urchin]

you told me VT3 before

[minor herald]

its a y-cuncher workload

as i said

vertor tranfomer V3 if i recall is what VT3 stands for

[noble urchin]

i have a CMD open now for y-cruncher, what now?

[minor herald]

2

8

18

0

[noble urchin]

does it matter if i do the stress test + i have lots of other apps that eat my ram up?

[minor herald]

close everything

[noble urchin]

well too late

does it matter though?

[minor herald]

just close everthing

[noble urchin]

i cant

[minor herald]

?

[noble urchin]

too much shit to close

[minor herald]

ok bye

[noble urchin]

adios

like idk how you cannot be straight forward

yes it matters, no it doesnt, or something similar

[livid flame]

Probably because it got lost in 2008 with the 12 year olds raving about it

[floral kiln]

Me literally every day:

[fringe vigil]

Bumbaclrt

[edgy laurel]

that is something

Silverstone always has something surprising

[fervent scaffold]

Evga gtx 1080ti ftw3 or msi Ventus 3060 12gb

[oak vector]

Well we all know about your 1080ti ftw3
But what’s the context here

[fervent scaffold]

For my buddies PC im slapping together, has a I5-9400f in it

I already have the 1080ti obviously but this guy only wants $140 for the 3060 12gb

And idk which would be a better option for my buddies first PC

Id like to keep the 1080ti but if I do I dont have a use for it

[brisk jolt]

3060

he gets DLSS 4 and longer driver support

[fervent scaffold]

Thats kinda what I was thinking too

[brisk jolt]

+VSR and HDR if applicable

[fickle karma]

yall would recommend this m.2?

is 49 usd

[fickle karma]

so it's bad?

[topaz veldt]

I'm not going to read to you

It's enough that I googled

[fervent scaffold]

$49 usd for 512gb?

And its gen 3?

Seems a little unreasonable to me

[pure grail]

what country amazon is this

[fickle karma]

italy

[pure grail]

or r there any other stores u can buy from

[edgy laurel]

lmao

[fickle karma]

in my city there are no stores that sell pc things

[oak vector]

Yeah I was gonna say the same. If it was like a not important or highly practical rig id say 1080ti ftw3 for the lols
But 3060 wins here just cos its newer honestly

And yk that 1 extra gb of ram

[pure grail]

i just checked and 1tb nvmes start at €60 in italy
so 42 for 512gb is ngek

[fickle karma]

where

on amazon 1tb is 120

[oak vector]

Why do 11gb gpus exist
Like wouldn’t that be more annoying to make than a 12 or 10gb card

[pure grail]

...i just searched 1tb nvme on amazon.it

[fickle karma]

ur rigth

from crucial too

[livid flame]

Nvidia had a lot of 1gb chips laying around and was like LOL let’s charge for 12 but only supply 11 by using up these spare chips

Profit > VRAM

[fickle karma]

5060 ti 16 gb in italy is 500+ $ lol

[pure grail]

where are you checking

[edgy laurel]

its dependent on the memory bus width they decide for a card for its performance needs + what size chips they have available. A 352-bit card like a 1080Ti, 1GB chips, 11 chips total.

[fickle karma]

amazon

[edgy laurel]

They could have added another 1GB chip for 12GB total but then that would require a 384-bit memory bus, thus likely adding cost.

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/google-gif-google-gif-for-messages-google-gif-gif-1045234766527568383

1024 bit bus when

[oak vector]

Thanks guilty and deth

[brisk jolt]

gta7 min requirement

[edgy laurel]

1080Ti had the 12th memory pad on the FE cards

[pure grail]

how reliable is Alternate cuz theres several 16g models 460-480 there

[plush smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjjgWc is this build good?

[edgy laurel]

reference, whatever you wanna call it

[edgy laurel]

are you located in the US?

[pure grail]

expensive 32g 6000 cl30

[civic reef]

Boutta see just how much of a bottleneck a 4460 will be to a 5700 XT

[fringe vigil]

Where’s patois skunk

[edgy laurel]

what

[civic reef]

I don't assume anything significant since it's still 4 decent cores

[topaz veldt]

Exhausting

[civic reef]

But still funny to see what a Haswell i5 will do with a 5700 XT

[fervent scaffold]

People are funny lol. $1200 usd for a 6650xt and 5800x

[civic reef]

You should see here

Some guy was selling a 3770 w/ a 960 for 200

[edgy laurel]

5800x/RX6600 is my second PC here, i'd love to get that much for it

[fringe vigil]

The guy in here

[fervent scaffold]

But would you actually ever get that lol

[edgy laurel]

Of course

[neat shuttle]

I couldn’t connect to your Wi-Fi network

[fervent scaffold]

It also has 16gb ddr4, 1tb nvme, and a 650w white

[civic reef]

650W white.. What model

[plush smelt]

nah

[fervent scaffold]

Doesnt list it

[civic reef]

If it's a thermaltake SMART I am going to laugh my ass off

[fervent scaffold]

Thats how you know its good

[brisk jolt]

“high end”
also nice battery

[edgy laurel]

Then we have no idea that build is good since the prices don't make any sense

[civic reef]

Just like when companies don't list cpu generation

[fervent scaffold]

I think the nicest part is the nzxt aio

[civic reef]

"Ryzen 5" "i5" "i7"

[brisk jolt]

i7 from like 20 years ago fr

[civic reef]

1500X
4460
3770

[oak vector]

Me when 1st gen i7

[edgy laurel]

It should be noted that my 5800x/RX6600 machine has a premium Corsair SF750 Platinum. Now give me my $1200.

[fervent scaffold]

Really trying to be a salesperson

[oak vector]

(1st gen i7 obviously beats every i3 because it’s an i7)

[civic reef]

You're getting a gamer max super power 650W

[plush smelt]

I already found almost all the components on amazon for less than 1000$

[fervent scaffold]

Reliable and efficient

[civic reef]

80mm fan and condiment cables

[edgy laurel]

If we ignore value since we can't see prices, thus can't really say if you can do better/worse anywhere, then yes, its a goodish PC and will work well.

[plush smelt]

my bad not less

[brisk jolt]

my cardboard box has a sf850 so it should be worth $2000

[oak vector]

Cardboard box pc goes so hard

[plush smelt]

i just don't know what PS to get, that what i mainly need help figuring out.

[oak vector]

Same with an optiplex with a gpu and sata power to 8pin pcie adapter

[plush smelt]

i just choose the highest rated one

[edgy laurel]

the one you had selected is perfectly fine

[fervent scaffold]

My EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3 is a high end card capable of 1440p, so give me $1440

[edgy laurel]

And don't forget it!

[oak vector]

😭 not this again man

[plush smelt]

oh ok that's good to know, so generally I can trust reviews. obviously I gotta do more research but trusting reviews isn't the worst

[fervent scaffold]

Hey it goes hand in hand with that PC, every sticker is more $

Oh I guess I didnt send a picture of the sticker bombed front

[plush smelt]

any recomendation for a 1440p 240hz monitor on the market? (amazon)

[civic reef]

Someone was selling a 2060 super for 170 lmao

Not as bad as your encounter but still silly

[brisk jolt]

try a 3060 12gb for $600 SGD

[civic reef]

MAYBE but, maybe not:
ASUS Chimera with a 1080 for 2K

[civic reef]

😭??

[fervent scaffold]

I have 2 people near me asking $300 for a 3060 8gb and $300 for a 3060 12gb

[civic reef]

The secret GDDR7 PCIe 5.0 3060

[oak vector]

3060 8gb exists?

[civic reef]

3060s here are like 170 and 12gbs are 200

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-phainon-cheer-phainon-hsr-phainon-honkai-star-rail-phainon-star-rail-gif-13712427772456106633

[civic reef]

.. Yeah?

[oak vector]

lol I’m a moron 😭

[fervent scaffold]

I have someone near me also asking $150 for a 3060 12gb

[oak vector]

I genuinely thought there was just a 12gb

[fervent scaffold]

All within 30 minutes of me you can pay double for a worse card

[civic reef]

That's good

[oak vector]

I can’t actually recall seeing someone with an 8gb variant

[civic reef]

I thought the 3060 12gb was a refresh

[fervent scaffold]

It is

[civic reef]

It's the original launch 3060

The 3060 8gb came after

[fervent scaffold]

3060 came in 8gb and 12gb, 3060 ti only came in 8gb I believe

I think even the 3070 only came in 8gb

Even the ti possibly but I am definitely not sure on that

[oak vector]

Probably explains my thought process then

[civic reef]

3070 10gb

[brisk jolt]

other than 306012g everything till 3080 was 8gb

[civic reef]

Which was stupid

[brisk jolt]

whys a double whopper so expensive tf

[fervent scaffold]

Theres also an Asrock Rx 6600 near me for $120

I keep thinking about grabbing that

[civic reef]

In a perfect world, a GPU increases VRAM by 2GB or so every generation

Not ALWAYS, but when it works

[fervent scaffold]

But idk how much better a 3060 12gb would be over a rx 6600 8gb

If it is any better

[brisk jolt]

its better

[civic reef]

1060 6gb = 2060 8gb
1070 8gb = 2070 10gb

[brisk jolt]

u get DLSS4 instead of shitty n grainy FSR3

[civic reef]

2060 8gb = 3060 8gb bc it was good at the time - 12gb spike peculiar

2070 10gb = 3070 12gb

[fervent elm]

About 5-10%
Unless its something that can overfill an 8gb card's vram
Then the 3060 pulls ahead farther

[fervent scaffold]

Evga GTX 1080ti FTW3 = 3090

1080ti better than 50 series

[brisk jolt]

find me a evga 3090 bruh

[fervent scaffold]

Sarcasm

[civic reef]

Sure

[civic reef]

There's lots here

[fervent scaffold]

Same here actually

[oak vector]

There’s plenty

[brisk jolt]

one was fucking listed here for 2k sgd like wtf

[fervent scaffold]

They just ask way too much

[oak vector]

Evga 4090 goes hard

[civic reef]

There were more, but most sold out

[brisk jolt]

im in sgp

[civic reef]

I know just flexing :3c

[civic reef]

Lol expensive.... Try 450-500 dollars,,,,

[oak vector]

Does anyone here besides ltt have one of those evga “4090” gpus

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah idk why everyone asks so much around me

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-hsr-honkai-star-rail-cat-smirk-gif-3821013939146542985

[oak vector]

Also I can’t remember does that “4090” actually work???

[fervent scaffold]

And my buddy told me to get a 3090 instead of my 5070ti because “theres a lot of good deals around us right now”

Brother $1k for a 3090 is not a good deal

[civic reef]

Oh BTW quick question

[brisk jolt]

i want a 1k sgd evga 3090

[civic reef]

Does this RX 5700 XT look well - seller sent me these images

[fervent scaffold]

Definitely looks like a gpu

[civic reef]

Ofcourse will test the GPU itself but some opinions on atleast the physical integrity are appreciated

[fervent scaffold]

Why 5700xt? Good deal or something?

[oak vector]

Looks pretty clean and doesn’t have obvious signs of liquid based damage

[fervent scaffold]

Around me there are rx 7600s for $150

$150-$180ish

[oak vector]

Looks like how it should I guess

[civic reef]

Wawa

[oak vector]

Rip

Did I see smth

[brisk jolt]

the astral would be the perfect gpu if it wasnt by asus

[oak vector]

Oh yeah you’re the asus hater
Why 😭

[civic reef]

130 dollars, don't know how good or bad that price is
Also, only getting it specifically because everyone who had a better GPU listed is a LYING BASTARD

[south shuttle]

☑️

[oak vector]

I don’t have anything asus in my setup I just realised

[south shuttle]

testin

[fervent scaffold]

All EVGA

[civic reef]

7 people just tether said their 3060 12gbs/6600 XTs aren't available anymore - Or ghosted

[oak vector]

I have a gigabyte psu
Case
Motherboard
Gpu
I sort of wanna go all out with the gigabyte theme here

[civic reef]

Why keep a post up if you DON'T HAVE THE CARD

[civic reef]

I had an RoG Strix 1050 Ti

[brisk jolt]

bad experience all round

[civic reef]

It died due to overpressure

[south shuttle]

sus

[oak vector]

Aaaaa

[civic reef]

?

[civic reef]

I saw most of your message

I get what you mean

[brisk jolt]

i should paste a sticker over my laptop’s “asus” logo

[civic reef]

And yeah, literally no idea why people keep posts up if they don't even have the card

[oak vector]

Yeah.
Like it was harder to put the post up then to take it down bruh

[brisk jolt]

+20 igpu mhz clock effective immediately

[fervent scaffold]

Paste a MSI dragon over it

-10 customer support

[brisk jolt]

im not pasting multiple serious issues

[oak vector]

and surely it would be annoying to have to keep telling people

[civic reef]

Literally two clicks

[oak vector]

But hating a whole company is crazy work I could never

[civic reef]

It was a great card

[brisk jolt]

bro istg im gonna paste DDLC sticker over the asus logo

[fervent scaffold]

Brother what

[civic reef]

Even used external power lol

[fervent scaffold]

$960, “like new”, box isnt a founders

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-cyberpunk-johnny-sad-depressed-gif-13977917930994183030

[oak vector]

Probably an upgrade from founders but still

[civic reef]

That's when you use the 100% coupon

[brisk jolt]

i think i should paste the dokidokiliteratureclub sticker over the asus logo

[fervent scaffold]

You’re asking $1000 usd for used hardware, give an accurate description lol

[brisk jolt]

problem solved

[civic reef]

Also quick question

How silly is it to use a 5700 XT with an i5 4460

[fervent scaffold]

I think you should print out the cover art to the game you sent me thats “better than halo” to stick over it

[brisk jolt]

i would hate gigabyte as well but their white shit this gen is spot ob

[fervent scaffold]

What game is job interview

Lol

[brisk jolt]

its a manga chapter

[fervent scaffold]

Still?

Oh wait nvm

You said that last one was a short read

[brisk jolt]

as you can probably guess he went for a j*b interview

[brisk jolt]

which 1

[fervent scaffold]

No clue, you were just saying how you were using a 5090 to do a like, 3hr read

And that was a couple days ago

[brisk jolt]

that was the visual novel about an imaginary friend

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah that one

[brisk jolt]

yeah its short but good

its not prolonged

[karmic vault]

im contemplating what i shoud do, i need a laptop but i only have 60k on hand, if i sell my pc + a few more money from savings

i could buy a zephyrus laptop or something alike (around that price point 150k php [phillippine peso])

i could use that laptop for a year then by june 2026 next year i can build a desktop again with like 9800x3d or whatever (dont mind my choices here im just thinking of the pricepoint i i could get haha)

then by november-december 2026 i could get a gpu 9070xt or something in that pricepoint

should i run it with these plans?

[brisk jolt]

why a overpriced zephyrus

[karmic vault]

hey hey read im just thinking of the pricepoint

[brisk jolt]

and what r u even looking at

[karmic vault]

im not saying im buying that

[brisk jolt]

in specs

[karmic vault]

something i could game with on the go since im out the house alot. having a place to plug it in is not an issue, 14" screen probably since it feels like the more practical size to carry around

[fervent scaffold]

So much random junk im dealing with rn

[karmic vault]

also since im already spending that much money. i might as well get the best i could get

[fervent scaffold]

Had to hunt down a full tower atx case with a lot of bays for a friend

Tossing together that other PC

And I just had 2 more friends message me asking to build them cheap ass PCs

[brisk jolt]

i just had my friend order and sent to his place lol

[fervent scaffold]

He wanted a deal on used

So I searched marketplace and got that corsair case for $60 usd

750D airflow

[brisk jolt]

i asked him to abuse sale vouchers for new parts- used parts arent worth the hassle unless its some god tier must buy

[fervent scaffold]

I think $60 for that 750D airflow is a half decent deal, everything included in like brand new shape with original packaging

[brisk jolt]

he spent like $80 sgd on the LL lancool 207

im a fucking genius when i compared it to some fuckass youtuber in the same country

[fervent scaffold]

Thats what they go for new here

like $82 before tax

[brisk jolt]

+extra tb and A tier 850w psu compared to his unknown 600w

[fervent scaffold]

Included?

[brisk jolt]

its essentially the same price but his had a new gpu while my guy was reusing the 3060ti

plus he went for fuckass 5060 n 9060xt 8gb for gpu options

[fickle karma]

lol how did nvidia and amd release 8 gb models if 1080p low cs2 consumes 8gb of vram

[fervent scaffold]

How the hell would cs2 at 1080p consume 8gb of vram

[fickle karma]

idk look

ignore the 40 fps is fake cause is on 2nd monitor

[fervent scaffold]

Second monitor is your answer

If I had to guess with no knowledge

[brisk jolt]

btw he fucking compared both in CP2077 with the XT at native whilst the 5060 at mfg4

[fickle karma]

no when i click on counterstike i read 250 fps

when on intel i see 40

[fervent scaffold]

Im saying for a full 8gb vram being used

[fickle karma]

i got b580

oh

[edgy laurel]

second monitor has nothing to do with it

[fervent scaffold]

I was just guessing, no actual idea lol

[fickle karma]

my pc consumes 2.3 in idle

[fervent scaffold]

I feel like thats

Higher than it should be

[edgy laurel]

sounds normal

[fervent scaffold]

I should stop adding then lmao

[edgy laurel]

i'm seeing 3.1 used right now

3.2!

just playing a video in Youtube. Totaly normal

[fervent scaffold]

Yeah idk what causes vram usage other than higher resolution

[edgy laurel]

The system will manage that all on its own

[fervent scaffold]

All I know is I have 16gb of gddr7 lmao

[brisk jolt]

you know you want to see /32gb guilt

[fervent scaffold]

And that gddr7 or gddr6 or whatever doesnt really matter

[fringe vigil]

i cant wait to play mafia the old country

[brisk jolt]

get a 5090 to play it

its the minimum requirement for you jorj

[fringe vigil]

the minm are you okay

[shell void]

trueeeee

[brisk jolt]

dude even michael agrees, do not bow ur head to others who say otherwise

[edgy laurel]

I just tested CS2 at Medium preset in a 1080p windows. 7.9GB used total

12 at 4K Very High

[vestal granite]

alright titan quest 2 runs at 60fps at medium settings 1080p maximum FSR upscaling (says 3x but doesnt say resolution so im assuming im rendering at 640x360) on my 5800X & RX 6600

might be time for an upgrade unfortunately

[pure garnet]

i hope mafia is good

i need a game that actually loads my card

[vestal granite]

try titan quest 2

[shell void]

360p ☠️

[pure garnet]

i need one i want to play not just one that loads it

[edgy laurel]

i forget I have that same system here

[vestal granite]

its a tragedy guilty its a tragedy

im assuming the performance problems are just cause its early access

okay yeah thats what it is

[brisk jolt]

wait wait give me a moment im counting the pixels

1… 2… 3..

[vestal granite]

its also a UE5 game so the FSR isnt even like... good

it has that aura around every moving object

[brisk jolt]

fsr3 is never good

[vestal granite]

its better when you arent upscaling from 360p

[brisk jolt]

im going back to counting the pixels actually rendered on ur screen brb

[green marsh]

so it seems the Seagate Archive 8TB issue i got in ZimaOS is down to the LSI HBA not liking those drives "erratic" speeds. Copied 70GB of data on them when connected directly to the SATA controller so far (which is less than the 'cache' section of the drive) and zero SATA issues so far

[edgy laurel]

this actuallly looks like an interesting game

[vestal granite]

yeah thats why ive waited many decades for it

theyll work out the performance and if they dont ill just wait for 7090s

[brisk jolt]

whats titan quest 2

give me the tldr

[edgy laurel]

it just looks like an ARPG

Diablo, PoE

[vestal granite]

so titan quest 1 was a greek mythology diablo-like game released in like 2005 for the PC and titan quest 2 is sequel to the game and i havent played far enough into it to tell you more

its made by thq nordic

or it was made by thq nordic back then thq nordic made games and didnt just publish them so now its just published by them i guess

[warm kayak]

I’m pricing a ugreen home nas what type of hard drive should I get

For basic photos video and documentation back up

[vestal granite]

and the thing that i liked about titan quest 1 is that it has a cool skill mastery system thing

and the classic tiled inventory stuff

[vestal granite]

its not a super complicated choice, just make sure you arent buying a used/refurbished HDD

[green marsh]

WD Red or Seagate Exos (SATA version). Just don't buy SMR drives

[vestal granite]

and if you find an option and arent sure about it, post it here and we'll yell at you violently about it

[warm kayak]

I was looking at 8tb versions

Seagate BarraCuda 8TB

Western Digital 4TB WD Blue PC Internal Hard

Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS Internal Hard Drive

Are a few

[shell void]

why did i have to get a good 9800x3d sample

[pure garnet]

are your cores good or just the imc

[shell void]

i can’t justify buying an Epyc 4585PX because i’d be worried about getting a crap SOC and having to resell the 9800X3D

[shell void]

both

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-herta-asta-walk-away-walk-gif-13607704391417812923

[warm kayak]

These are a few I’m trying to stay under 500 including the nas

[pure garnet]

i haven't really tried pulling a ton of voltage out of my cores

but my soc tile is quite unremarkable but not awful

[shell void]

oh are you not curve optimizer minimized?

i would do that on the tomahawk before you start memory tuning

[frosty prism]

That Seagate is SMR

If you are in the US look at serverpartdeals

[warm kayak]

Which one

I’m on Amazon sadly only one who can do affirm

[pure garnet]

i haven't cared

saving 100mv on a chip that uses 1.1v is nothing

[frosty prism]

Save up and actually buy it

[pure garnet]

this is on desktop

[green marsh]

find P/N on the amazon page, open seagate page, open spec PDF, look at it

[shell void]

higher cinebench scores and faster shader compiles tho because you’ll hold higher allcore clocks

[pure garnet]

im running a flat -20

[frosty prism]

It's SMR

[pure garnet]

i don't really care to go further

[warm kayak]

Ok thx sorry still half asleep

[shell void]

oh you’re probably close to the limit anyway

i figured you weren’t using CO at all by what you were saying

[frosty prism]

All of their desktop drives that are bigger are SMR

[green marsh]

https://www.seagate.com/content/dam/seagate/en/content-fragments/products/datasheets/barracuda-3-5-hdd/barracuda-3-5-hdd-DS17-1-2501US-en_US.pdf

[pure garnet]

nah i set it up a bit ago

[frosty prism]

Surprise surprise

[pure garnet]

core cycler is just even slower than memory testing that i won't go more into it

[shell void]

i don’t use core cycler frick that

i just do per CCD CO and use y cruncher

[pure garnet]

i got a buyer for my strix

[green marsh]

i am still raging about LSI hating on Seagate Archive 8TB SMR drives. Today i tried it multiple times via LSI card, it went to read only mode every single time. Now i switched to SATA from mobo, it works fine...

[pure garnet]

so the tomahawk is gonna cost me 80 out of pocket

not bad for post code and ddr5-8000

[green marsh]

(200GB copied, no error, no slowdown yet)

[brisk jolt]

what in the holy fuck did i just get texted

“is there any itx board with 2 pcie slots” gang

[topaz veldt]

Did you get it running and karhu/TM5 stable at 8000

[pure garnet]

it's currently sitting in unfulfilled shipping land so no

[frosty prism]

I think I have a WD drive that is dead or at least super dying as the sata PCIe card I have does not want to boot with truenas and when it does I can't wrote more then a few gigs before it all just dies, luckily I did not use those drives in my main pool

[green marsh]

but the controller is fine, works fine with WD Red drives. Seagate drives are also fine (except the one which is dead). It is just combo of them which makes an issue. Will do few more tests, but i hate if it is incompatibility. Will have to use all the free motherboard SATA connectors if this is the case, and it will also look uglier

[shell void]

and ez release QoL features

and wifi 7, and better m.2 support

[warm kayak]

Thx u I probably need coffee and do more research before I go full in kinda was looking at using my old computer as a nas but cpu doesn’t have ingrated graphics so would have to use my gpu

[shell void]

80 dollar board upgrade pretty solid

[pure garnet]

wonder if my sisters new board can do 8000 or not

[frosty prism]

Also please save up and actually buy it

[topaz veldt]

Didn't you have some issues with Tomahawk @shell void

[pure garnet]

she's getting a b650e-i since the b550 died

[shell void]

yeah it didn’t like outputting bios to my secondary portrait monitor

[frosty prism]

From my understanding Seagate drives calculate ecc error fixes or something differently

[shell void]

the other issues were nvidia driver problems

[shell void]

probably still doesn’t but i only have one monitor rn so i can’t check

[pure garnet]

bios going on both monitors is not a killer app for me

[green marsh]

from what i see, it is SATA command issues, so who knows what is going on

[frosty prism]

My plan going forward might be some Toshiba 20TB

[warm kayak]

Planning too but if there a sale probably won’t wait but was going to do the 3 month plan

[warm kayak]

I saw that one too but cost more than the ugreen maybe when I get into architecture school those files are a lot

[edgy laurel]

@turbid locust @topaz veldt HAVING FUN

[frosty prism]

Trust me save up and while you do look used or something maybe, just do more research and do not rush into it at least.

[green marsh]

yep, it's LSI hating on seagate archive drive. Barely started copying:

[  502.834695] sd 7:0:1:0: attempting task abort!scmd(0x000000004824960e), outstanding for 30105 ms & timeout 30000 ms
[  502.834708] sd 7:0:1:0: [sdc] tag#2367 CDB: Write(16) 8a 00 00 00 00 00 1b fb 46 58 00 00 40 00 00 00
[  502.834712] scsi target7:0:1: handle(0x000b), sas_address(0x4433221105000000), phy(5)
[  502.834717] scsi target7:0:1: enclosure logical id(0x5d4ae520ac07d305), slot(6)
[  503.422178] sd 7:0:1:0: task abort: SUCCESS scmd(0x000000004824960e)

Later it would completely brick the FS (i mean switch to read only mode). Time to set up the SATA cables then and return the drives to the chasis

[frosty prism]

I really need to order that 16i

Been a bit lazy

And poor

[heavy mantle]

how much molla

[rotund moth]

Setting up my first pc rn and watching the ltt set up video and he say to put the drivers on the same thumb drive as windows does it just instal the drivers for you?

[frosty prism]

It's like 80$ for something I do not have any real need for

[frosty prism]

Do you use Ethernet?

[rotund moth]

No

[frosty prism]

Aka cables "internet"

Then you need the wifi drives on the usb stick

[rotund moth]

Can I just do all the drivers?

[frosty prism]

Why

Also there is only like 2

3 when wifi

[rotund moth]

So I don’t have to later like all the motherboard drivers

[frosty prism]

The motherboard does not have drivers

What cpu and GPU

[frosty prism]

No

[rotund moth]

Ok

So wireless LAN and Realtek lan driver?

Ok

Thank you

[frosty prism]

.

[rotund moth]

R5 5500 and intel a750

[frosty prism]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/discrete-gpus/arc/software/drivers.html

all you need and wireless

[turbid locust]

My 2042 experience so far has been my team absolutely steamrolling the other team, so I mid frag with a good K/D. Or, my team is being steamrolled but I mid frag with an ok K/D lol.

[frosty prism]

also what a sad combo

[rotund moth]

Bro what

[frosty prism]

MAKE SURE rebar is on

[rotund moth]

Sorry I don’t have 1000s of dollars and had to get something cheap

[rotund moth]

It is

[frosty prism]

5600 is like 20$ more

[rotund moth]

Out of stock everywhere I looked bro

[stray wigeon]

its not that bad depends how much you spent on it

[turbid locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/ryzen-7-9800x3d-left-core-14900k-in-the-dust-in-battlefield-6-early-streamer-tests-both-systems-included-an-rtx-5080-but-the-3d-v-cache-system-was-roughly-30-percent-faster @edgy laurel lol so much for Intel optimization

[frosty prism]

nothing against the 750 but like at least where i live the 6600 is like 100 while the 750 is like 180

[rotund moth]

500 full build

[frosty prism]

i make like 500$ puters for a livin

[stray wigeon]

100 what? dollars?

[edgy laurel]

lol yeah we were talking about that last night. Kinda bullshit "testing" but we'll see. Just thought it was funny based on that Intel article

[brisk jolt]

consider just bombing it and getting a 5700x3d or a 5800 if its a good price

[frosty prism]

about

[stray wigeon]

well probably could've got better but not bad

[stray wigeon]

man what i wish i'd live where you are. in my country it costs around 190-230 dollars

[frosty prism]

i have 3 6600s i got for about 100

[brisk jolt]

another one bites the dust

[frosty prism]

im gonna be making a 5 3600 and 6600 pc for like 250 in not too long

[stray wigeon]

like a whole pc?

[frosty prism]

both of these i got for 150 each

update the bios slap in a 5 3600 and a 6600 and call it a day

[brisk jolt]

i might go settle for a evga 3060 if i want a evga card ngl

[frosty prism]

well ofc

[frosty prism]

the left one got a 1TB ssd too :3

[stray wigeon]

dang in my country it would cost at least 300-400 dollars if you go with the absolute cheapest parts

[frosty prism]

i went for the cheapest then got it cheaper

[stray wigeon]

thats nice

[frosty prism]

this was 300

looks great, and should just be great

[frosty prism]

i wonder if i can manage to sell the 1660 for about the price of a 6600

[frosty prism]

wait

how does that work

[rotund moth]

Wym

[frosty prism]

where does the air get pushed in

[rotund moth]

From the bottom

[frosty prism]

so there are fans under there?

[edgy laurel]

all the money on RGB and none on a proper CPU cooler

[rotund moth]

I’m getting some but it creates negative pressure and I can feel air being sucked in

[frosty prism]

well yea but like physics

no air being pushed in is just bad

fishtank cases even with good side fans are worse or A LOT worse then the non fishtank cases

[rotund moth]

No the ram was cheaper than all the non rbg options because it was on sale

[frosty prism]

like the montech xr vs xt pro ultra is like a 10c difference cpu and gpu or something while the xt pro is just like 20$ more

[frosty prism]

used

[rotund moth]

I watched a video with this exact build with a different gpu and temps where fine

New

[frosty prism]

no shit

like 50w cpu and 150w gpu

its literally a laptop cpu

[rotund moth]

Yea so why u bitching about my case if temps are fine

[frosty prism]

since upgrading will be a nightmare?

[rotund moth]

I was just asking for help with my drivers sorry I’m poor you ain’t gotta roast me

[frosty prism]

and yea temps can be fine but if some parts are A LOT hotter then they should be its not good

[rotund moth]

Like I’m doing the best I can

So hop off

[stray wigeon]

@rotund moth how much the gpu costed? i just looked up in my country the a750 and rx 7600 cost the exact same

[rotund moth]

160

[frosty prism]

just saying if someone else asks you about the case just try and get em to go for something with good fans

[stray wigeon]

ok WAY cheaper than i could find it for. fair

[rotund moth]

Yea I got a good deal

[frosty prism]

i so badly wanna buy a arc card buuut then it tends to just cost too much for a gpu that gets beaten by others and they are cheaper sometimes by a lot

[stray wigeon]

yeah i wanted to get an arc gpu too but they just cost too much

[brisk jolt]

fuck me i cant find a evga 3060

[frosty prism]

the b580 tho is like 250 while 3070 is 300

[rotund moth]

If you can find a good deal I feel like they worth it

[brisk jolt]

i can find a 3070 for $300 singapore dollars tbh

[stray wigeon]

once again man in my country the cheapest b580 costs around 400 dollars new

[frosty prism]

new ew

[stray wigeon]

oh youre talking about used? maybe you can actually find a used for that price but i doubt it

[frosty prism]

used is best

[brisk jolt]

ffs I cant find a singular evga 3060 12g on the market

[turbid locust]

lol they’re reporting that BF6 was running at 190fps at 1440p on the 14900k and 300fps on the 9800X3D

[frosty prism]

why evga

[brisk jolt]

I dont want to deal with VRAM issues on the 3070 :/

[brisk jolt]

monke like design

[frosty prism]

get a b580

[brisk jolt]

i already have one

[frosty prism]

get another one

[brisk jolt]

no

[frosty prism]

cmon you know you wanna

[brisk jolt]

no i want a evga card

my options rn are 3070 for $300 or a fucking 3080ti for $650

[fresh grotto]

Saw this piece of gold 😂

[brisk jolt]

on wallpaper engine*

[stray wigeon]

it can pull 4k windows 10 it's a great game runs at stable 58 fps

[brisk jolt]

its in singapore dollars and the evga market here is hella limited

these 3060 sellers also have a fucking ego trynna sell for 300 sgd lmao

[fringe vigil]

i thought patioskunk was patoi skunk

omg thats embarassing

[edgy laurel]

what are we pulling

[frosty prism]

yea it can do full 4k

4k 120hz in fact

[rotund moth]

Where do yall recommend buying a activation key

And yes I know about MAS

[fresh grotto]

the cheapest most reliable source available to you

[frosty prism]

microsoft.com

[fresh grotto]

so the microsoft store

GOD DAMNIT MY JOKE#

[frosty prism]

yea mascrosoft store

[rotund moth]

No I mean those cheap ones

[frosty prism]

yea microsoft store

o no

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/808903373448282142

[edgy laurel]

We don't, because that will be gray market and that's not to be suggested or discussed here. Google is available. https://youtu.be/yJkRd9py5mA?t=448

[frosty prism]

he already knows of it 😐

might wanna delete it my guy

[topaz veldt]

27-12 nice what modes do you like

Also listening to J2C explaining memory in terms of kitchens 🤔

[edgy laurel]

anything with Vehicles I can blow up

So many points. So so many points.

I've mostly been playing that "Featured" Control playlist

[turbid locust]

Avoiding watching this video for my own sanity

[fringe vigil]

What was it

[edgy laurel]

jorj do you know what context clues are

[fringe vigil]

tell him dm me

[edgy laurel]

[fringe vigil]

Jk I already got it you sent it me

[spare tinsel]

how many ssds is too many

[edgy laurel]

yes

too many is when you have no where to plug them in

[spare tinsel]

i suppose thats true

im just wondering if anyone has tested if adding more actually starts to slow them down as well

[edgy laurel]

thats a very "it depends" question.

How they're connected, what sort of resources they're sharing, how you're trying to access them... Is this one of those school yard "what if" questions or do you actually understand how this works

[tropic idol]

Is a 3060ti for £215 a bad purchase (I don’t play nor intend to play anything that needs more than 8gb of vram)

[spare tinsel]

from my understanding for normal desktop cpus
well idk the exact numbers
i think maybe 2 can still run at or near full speed
and then after that you start to hit the limits at some point

from my own experience my first two ran at near/full speed and then the 3rd is noticeably slower

[edgy laurel]

Ok so desktop parts. Assuming each drive has 4x dedicated lanes to the CPU that are not shared, they can all reach their sequential transfer speeds at the same time.

[spare tinsel]

thats the thing tho idk if the diagrams have shared lanes

[edgy laurel]

If and when this is possible depends on the motherboard used and how its PCIe lanes are arranged. This will vary greatly.

What is the purpose of the question, overall? Are you building a PC? For what?

[spare tinsel]

yeah its such a old and uncommon topic most people wont talk about

im getting a 4th ssd soon and im wondering
its still better than nothing of course im just thinking if theres any negatives as i add more and more

[edgy laurel]

Because many beginners come into this and have this idea in their head of "shared PCIe lanes" like its the devil and suddently their SSD will run like a 15y/o HDD.

Which is wildly not accurate.

[spare tinsel]

the motherboard websites are also confusing as heck which doesnt help

[edgy laurel]

This is also assuming you're hitting each drive AT the same time with a maximum sequential read/write action, which is almost never done in a desktop environment.

[spare tinsel]

although to be fair i have no idea what the bottleneck is

all i know is something is
choking
sometimes

[modest bison]

Can i use a reference waterblock on the powercolor 7900 xtx hellhound?

[edgy laurel]

What board do you have, lets start there and hopefully this clears things up

[spare tinsel]

the thing is its not consistent so sometimes its "normal" and then other times it decides to be slow
havent decided on the new one yet my current one is hahaha gonna take awhile to find it

[edgy laurel]

The ultimate goal here is to hopefully help you understand why on a desktop board, 99% of people will have zero issues with SSD's sharing PCIe lanes to the CPU

Those that think its a problem, just like to hate on it conceptually but it will still never affect them

[spare tinsel]

testing is the main thing
like
surely i am not hallucinating right
its iffy its one of those things like
Loading screens you really need a side by side comparison to see who is faster/slower

[edgy laurel]

Stop there. Loading screens, what are you referring to?

Please tell me its not games

[spare tinsel]

booting wendows
for one

games is another thing

[edgy laurel]

Ok, so lets back up

Assuming we're talking about NVMe..

[spare tinsel]

like some people say "fast" or "slow" without quantifying is their fast/slow like 2 seconds or 30 seconds or 1 min

[edgy laurel]

Modern drives are SO much faster than what is needed or could even be taken advantage of by things as pedestrian as loading Windows or loading screens in games.

[spare tinsel]

i mean if one guy loads in 15s and the other guy in 30s
clearly there has to be some reason for the difference

[edgy laurel]

These actions don't even get close to maxing out the raw bandwidth of an old Gen3 NVMe drive, and in some cases old SATA drives

[spare tinsel]

tbh the same could be said of whats the point in having "better" ssds if you never notice the difference
ssd quality is another topic that is just one big blank that nobody bothers with for the most part

[edgy laurel]

Game loading screens and Windows boot times should never even be brought up when being concerned about sharing PCIe lanes, its completely irrelevant

If you want to actually test raw throughput, use proper drive benchmarking software

[spare tinsel]

its funneh how there isnt a "real world benchmark" and you jsut click some canned benchmark and a bunch of numbers show up on screen

[edgy laurel]

But please understand, and this cannot be understated, a Gen3 drive from 5-6 years ago doing 3000MB/s sequential reads and a modern Gen5 doing 15000MB/s sequential reads are going to boot windows at the same time.

This is the concept lost on most beginners

[spare tinsel]

eh
its not that i dont believe
im just saying it would be nice to have a demonstration of that

[edgy laurel]

But at this point, i'm not sure what motherboard you have was clarified

[spare tinsel]

its like most of the time when i see topics abotu ssds its mostly just anedots of i think this or i think that

[edgy laurel]

Well, alright. I'm not sure what the actual question is at this point.

[hoary hatch]

the gen5 will be 0.3 seconds faster; totally worth it

[young void]

[hoary hatch]

but really even a sata SSD will boot windows fast enough that you won't notice a difference

theres a lot of other factors that go into windows boot times

[pure garnet]

general os stuff relies on random read perf which hasn't really gotten a lot better unless you go optane

[young void]

Original xbox booting in like 10 seconds with an ide was noice

Talk about sped, pentium powaaaa

[hoary hatch]

top of the line gen4 ssd lol

(the windows report is probably inaccurate i know)

[edgy laurel]

I don't think this has anything to do with storage speed, this specific number that is

[hoary hatch]

not at all

thats why just having an SSD is more important than the speed of the ssd

there are many other factors that contribute to boot times

[cobalt walrus]

Randoms

[edgy laurel]

The Last BIOS time is the amount of time in seconds it took the UEFI BIOS firmware to identify and initialize hardware devices and running a power-on self-test (POST) before it begins booting Windows when you power on the computer.

[heavy mantle]

Sandel time is better name

[civic reef]

But you see.. People like seeing PCIe 5.0 instead of PCIe 3.0

It's like FPSes and the RGBs

[edgy laurel]

So everything that happens before your storage starts to count and Windows begins loading.

[civic reef]

The more colours and lightses you see, the more FPSes you gets because it looks betters!

[hoary hatch]

ah, well, windows loads pretty quick after that

BUT

[smoky bone]

Just a quick question, do y’all run truenas bare and use the truenas kubernetes/docker thingy or do you run it in a vm in proxmox and run your docker containers/… separately (vm/lxc in proxmox), or even another configuration? I’m unsure what’s best, how efficient the truenas kubernetes/docker is compared to docker in proxmox VM/LXC and if there are complications passing the disks to the truenas vm in proxmox etc… Additionally, I’m unsure if I need vm’s/proxmox in the future for other purposes then just docker. What would y’all recommend me to do? Run TrueNAS bare or virtualized in proxmox.

[edgy laurel]

given that, this is pretty poor. What on earth is your board doing.. training memory every boot?

[hollow hull]

hmm

[hoary hatch]

I've never had a fast booting pc

[hollow hull]

I haven't restarted this computer in like 2 weeks, let me do that rq

[edgy laurel]

Even my AM5 system which seems to take ages is 10 seconds less lol

[hoary hatch]

this is actually pretty quick for me

[cobalt walrus]

Mine takes about 20 minutes for memory training lmao

[hoary hatch]

used to be close to a minute on AM4

[cobalt walrus]

And until a recent bios update it would do it every other boot

[civic reef]

Are you sure your windows is on an SSD

[pure garnet]

thats memory training usually

[edgy laurel]

That doesn't sound right. 128+GB of RAM?

[civic reef]

Oh right mem training

[hoary hatch]

this is probably 10ish seconds less than my Z690 system

[cobalt walrus]

192 yeah

[edgy laurel]

ffs

[pure garnet]

i run mcr off so it full trains every boot

[edgy laurel]

Peope sort your BIOSes out LMAO

[pure garnet]

but im tuned memory so that's my choice

[hollow hull]

that is some hard drive level of speed

[civic reef]

You should check your BIOS

[civic reef]

I can affirm that

[hoary hatch]

yes lmao
gen4 TLC with DRAM cache

[edgy laurel]

unrelated to drive speed. #tech-chat-2 message

[hoary hatch]

now this is my kinda boot times

[civic reef]

My RE3 from 2008 is around.. A minute

I usually click le PC on and go grab something with the downtime

Oh wait I forgot, Windows is on a 256 SATA SSD
I am pretty sure it's just my system being shite, but I'll check BIOS

[edgy laurel]

I improved UEFI initialization time by disabling the Thunderbolt controller I don't use.

[civic reef]

Not fast enough
You need a Gen6 SLC drive

[hoary hatch]

I also have fast boot disabled

and a lot of USB devices

[civic reef]

Ah

I don't know what I have enabled or disabled; I don't really mess with the BIOS

[hoary hatch]

optane

I do need 905p

[civic reef]

Last time I fiddled with it was to try and lower CPU processes as much as I could

[edgy laurel]

ya each of these needs to be initilized

[edgy laurel]

This has nothing to do with the BIOS

[hoary hatch]

and thats why ssd speed doesn't matter

just having an ssd is enough

everything else contributes more

[civic reef]

As in, turn off anything related to overclocking

I was still running my CPU on a dying cooler then

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I don't think people really understand how many orders of magnitude faster modern NVMe drives are than what can actually be made use of for things like boot times and game loading. Software side of things is MILES behind actually being optimized to use such raw throughput.

[civic reef]

So I was just trying my best in terms of getting to do something on it until I bought a cooler

[edgy laurel]

<@&750150305383186585> scammer spam

[civic reef]

Last time it was Drake

So much free money (to the scammer)
Who'll be it next time?

[edgy laurel]

Thanks

[hoary hatch]

being said I may have memory training on I need to check that

but USB + fast boot off + other stuff is contributing more than ssd

[edgy laurel]

100%

[heavy mantle]

Me in downtown, where ya work 😎

Or ur company hq mb

[hoary hatch]

completely different state lmao

idk where the HQ is or what the building looks like other than it is now in downtown

[heavy mantle]

Didnt ya say main hq moved to Austin or am dumb dumb

Ahh

[hoary hatch]

they moved from like austin industrial area to actual downtown

[heavy mantle]

Oh so prolly from west austin to downtown

Thats cool

[hoary hatch]

uhhhh I think it was south but i've only been once so not positive

[heavy mantle]

South?

[hoary hatch]

it was like between downtown and the airport maybe?

I could be completely wrong on the directions here

but they're in downtown now is what i know for sure

[heavy mantle]

Oh airport then yeah no its east

[hoary hatch]

ah my b

[heavy mantle]

Fully east that area also nxp have a huge factory there so around that area

[heavy mantle]

LMAO

Wait actually it isnt that hard to locate exact area lol

[edgy laurel]

no, not at all. took less than a minute

already knowing it was austin made it simple. Go 3D, locate that distinct angled building by spinning the city around, move backwards till you find the blue tennis courts. Done

[heavy mantle]

Ahh

[edgy laurel]

Also finding IRL places in google maps is a fun mini-hobby of mine

[heavy mantle]

That court is were me and some pf my dads retired friends play there , tbhey mad eit blue not that long ago

Thats neat tho

[green marsh]

these shots are nice, too bad all the wasted space on parking spots (in US i mean)

[edgy laurel]

we've grown accustomed to it but google maps is absolutely crazy impressive

[heavy mantle]

Show that to Amish person and i would love to see there reaction

[frank cypress]

calm down rainbolt

[edgy laurel]

not even close to the same level

[green marsh]

wish they would invest as much work outside US for these map features

some of these are outright terrifying

(and yeah, we got very weird buildings)

[plush smelt]

is it a bad idea to get a micro atx motherboard when i am not that experienced with building PCs?

[green marsh]

no, mATX is just 3 slots less, not as problematic as mITX

[plush smelt]

ok, i was wondering about that because a friend of mine was complaining about how hard it was to build a pc when he got a micro atx MOBO

[cobalt walrus]

The difficulty depends on many other factors

[green marsh]

it mostly depends on the case i suspect, but a "normal" mATX case isn't any harder than an ATX case, it is just 6cm shorter downwards

[plush smelt]

my case is ooler Master MasterBox Lite 5

am getting this deal https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-7600X-GIGABYTE-Motherboard/dp/B0BV3C5GTL?utm_source=chatgpt.com&th=1

with 5060 ti oc

i am willing to pay that extra little bit for better cooling

or whatever that is the 5060 ti oc offers more than the normal ti

actually the only differences i know about are stuff chat gpt told me about i have no clue what OC mean

[fresh grotto]

Why is it got a air cooler on top?

[green marsh]

that is a full atx case, only issue will be that cables to bottom header connectors will be unsightly, that's all

[green marsh]

that is the core of the structure LOL

[green marsh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_Radio_Building

[fresh grotto]

What cpu is it ran on?

😂

[topaz veldt]

Its like... i mean he isn't wrong but its a bit convoluted

[fresh grotto]

Weird aio ngl
It looks funky but it looks to be missing the top half of the building

[vestal granite]

yep this sounds like its right up my alley

[topaz veldt]

wish i were fishing today

[turbid locust]

Just mag dumped a lightbulb in 2042 cause I thought it was a sniper glint

[topaz veldt]

rofl

we should play mac

[turbid locust]

I’m down

[topaz veldt]

let me fire up my pc, could use a distraction

[turbid locust]

I’m shit but I’m down

[topaz veldt]

same dude no worries - warzone im picky, 2042 im like whatever

[vestal granite]

im no good at fishing but as a child my grandfather caught a lotta fish and had me pose for photos with the fish acting like i caught it so he could brag to the waitress at Dairy Queen

[civic reef]

How are RX 5700 XT drivers now? - General results through searching say that it's stable, but a second opinion if possible could be appreciated

[vestal granite]

as stable as theyre gonna get

[potent cliff]

why is my pc only getting megabyte per second

[civic reef]

Elaborate?

[potent cliff]

should be getting 100

100gb

[vestal granite]

The drivers are As Stable As They're Going TO Get At This Point

[civic reef]

Ah, alright, thanks

[potent cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/ay-cabron-cat-smoke-smoking-cigar-gif-773313026608743745

[granite dirge]

Still trying to figure out how to get this to fit it's off by so little ..

[topaz veldt]

I didn't see your username i was like who the fuck is this albanian dude providing weirdly specific random info

[vestal granite]

forgot i changed it

[shell void]

https://youtu.be/vxWxZIr2mJ8?si=Nqc9s-mtVUegKckD

intel saving rx 6000 and rx 7000 users yet again

because amd abandoned them

[fringe vigil]

Snail u like khelani

[topaz veldt]

sorry mac and i are busy cracking skulls

[topaz veldt]

haven't heard, seems OK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIY_lEg8kBA

mother f'er just flew this giant plane and shot at me

[fringe vigil]

Khelani is so good I love her

Listen to folded

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/area-88-shin-kazama-eject-pilot-plane-gif-5521655030094906736

[fringe vigil]

what u playing

[topaz veldt]

BF 2042

I am so bad

[granite dirge]

snail was it you who was trying to get me to get better audio for my setup the other day?

[topaz veldt]

I don't know

[granite dirge]

because im using tv speakers

[fringe vigil]

its just bad

[topaz veldt]

its not

[topaz veldt]

thats not great

[granite dirge]

honestly it dosent sound horrible

i was thinking about possibly getting a sound bar to put in the kallax, 6.5inx27inx15in cubbie, but not sure what ould be a good idea with no sub to get,

the problem being, acording to rtings, theris only one option uner, 200$

and its a roku

[topaz veldt]

yeah i only have one soundbar experience and it wasn't very cheap

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

samsung q990 is goated

@topaz veldt what sound mode do you use?

like standard/surround/game/adaptive in the samsung app

[green marsh]

100% confirmed it was just LSI controller disliking those Seagate Archive drives. >1TB copied to it already at pretty much constant 90-100MB/s rate, zero errors when connected to the Intel SATA controller through SATA cables.

[topaz veldt]

standard

the other modes do weird shit

[granite dirge]

amazon is so helpful..../s

[hoary hatch]

Is a sub a deal breaker?

Like, is a wireless sub suitable?

[granite dirge]

with my upstairs neighbor yes

[hoary hatch]

The Vizio no-sub model I have and it's fine
But it was also $100 when I got it, not close to $200

Might not be the exact exact same SKU but they look pretty similar

[hoary hatch]

https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/reviews/best/budget

Referring to this list

[fringe vigil]

https://youtu.be/14PLRhIEAy8?si=91zxRDojvZqaDao1 listen

[granite dirge]

that vizio is too large for the dimensions i gave

[hoary hatch]

Oh I wasn't even looking at the sizes

Yeah the Samsung one they listed is the smallest but also $250 new which is quite a bit

[fringe vigil]

the c5 is slowly dropping in price

will get this winter

[toxic isle]

Will 750$ get me to am5 or nah

[shell void]

$750 for cpu, board, and ram? yeah easily

[toxic isle]

Ang gpu

[shell void]

☠️

[toxic isle]

Yeah i thought so 💔

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/blippi-griddy-griddy-dance-griddy-gif-dance-gif-25618071

gridi

[shell void]

still can but it cuts it close

assuming youre american

i would go for a 13400f instead

[hoary hatch]

That wasn't in the original question

You can't scope creep like that

[frosty prism]

If you are close to a mc am5 is 250

[shell void]

i dont even know if this guy is american

[toxic isle]

The original question was 1 day ago and i think that yall forgot

Im not American bro

[shell void]

yeah i have no idea what things cost for you then

[granite dirge]

it can https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfQYGJ

[shell void]

you can do an i5 13400f or 7600x build with an arc b580 or rtx 5060 for less than $750 here (for just cpu/ram/board/gpu)

but our american part lists are useless to you

the things will cost different amounts for you

[hoary hatch]

Really Newegg

You can't do free shipping on a $2400 GPU?

[shell void]

u lookin at a 5090?

[toxic isle]

I do t know how much stuff would cost here but a 5600 is 130$ idk if it is the same in America

[hoary hatch]

Naw just checking the market

It seems a bit better?

[shell void]

yeah theyve come down quite a bit

[hoary hatch]

$2400 zotac gaming solid 5090

[shell void]

when i bought my master for $3000 you couldnt really find a 5090 in stock for less than like $2900

[hoary hatch]

But $12 shipping 💀

Shipped and sold by Newegg too smh

[shell void]

@merry stirrup https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-oc-gddr7-pci-express-5-0-graphics-card-with-triple-fan-black/6616903.p

msrp 5080 super rare sighting

[toxic isle]

Gt520?💔

[fringe vigil]

bro cannot gridi

[granite dirge]

You listed a budget of 750usd using the american dollar sign and no letters to denotate a different , country, i got it under, 500, as you had added a new requirement incase you had to add more,

[frosty prism]

There is no American dollar sign?

[shell void]

this is a really cool form factor, but $1000usd for a 4k165 edge lit LCD monitor is delusional

i welcome the idea of curved 37" monitors tho that's sick

much more realistic than flat 42"

[frosty prism]

I am 10000% getting curved

Dad's got a shitty curved with massive massive ghosting but my god, 32 inches all in your sight in a game and the world does not exist.

[merry stirrup]

explode

[upbeat bolt]

im transferring icloud images from my pc to my hdd and the percentage went from 54% done to 52% done, is that normal? It also isnt escaping that 52-54 range

[merry stirrup]

its prrolly pulling more images from icloud as its moving em

[brave panther]

I use a flat 32 at work and its not special at all

[merry stirrup]

are more showing up on your pc as you refresh the explorer window?

[upbeat bolt]

well theres 39k+ images so i selected the first 2416 so i dont think it should be pulling more

[frosty prism]

Yeah see

Curved is the dub

[brave panther]

Triple is the dub

[upbeat bolt]

it just happened again it was at 54 and went down to 52. All other states stayed the same but somehow the time until finish went down?

[frosty prism]

I already do /:

[brave panther]

27?

[frosty prism]

Main is 27 and the rest I think 21

Main is also 1440 vs 1080 on the sides

[brave panther]

They got to be same res and size for magic to happen

[frosty prism]

Yup

Also pure 32 will just be better and cheaper

I have had my eye on dem new 32 4k i think 240hz

Oled ofc

[upbeat bolt]

is oled rlly that good

idk if the switch is worth it

[shell void]

yes

[upbeat bolt]

they hellaaa expensive tho

[frosty prism]

This one might be it, sell the one I got and get this one is what I would be doing if I was a bit dumber

[frosty prism]

I sono 400 for 1440 240 qd oled it's not that expensive for such a monitor I would say but I dono just get a j*b or something.

[low sorrel]

man i wanna try modded skyrim:

the first mod i download

[half lantern]

Do you guys think Intel will get back up on its feet soon?

[frosty prism]

Maybe

[pure garnet]

every time i try to mod skyrim i realize it's going to take hours to download so i give up right away

[half lantern]

It's just so weird how the CPU market just like swapped so quickly
like 5 years ago, most people would still recommend Intel over AMD
and now, very few people talk about Intel (at least that's how I feel, I see basically nobody talk about Intel on social media)

Everyone chooses an AMD CPU

for a current gen build*

[frosty prism]

What

People were talking about both like 8 years ago

After zen for diy amd has been eating hard at Intel

[half lantern]

Oh I really don't count years correctly lol

[frosty prism]

Since am4 and zen amd has had a massive chance

[merry stirrup]

maybe zen2

[half lantern]

yeah i think Ryzen 1000 was a little rough

[merry stirrup]

and 2000

ry3k is when amd started showing a real form of competence

[frosty prism]

Ofc but like seen bulldozer

Or Intel at the time of amds 8 cores

[fringe vigil]

khelani

[merry stirrup]

i mean yeah im not saying zen wasnt a big jump for amd but really only when you look at amd alone

because bulldozer was so bad that anything wouldve been a massive improvement

losing to sandy bridge often

[frosty prism]

Wasn't 8 cores on intel like 1k+ when the Ryzen 7s came out?

[merry stirrup]

yeah and those same ryzen 7s gamed like intel chips 3-4 gens back, so at a tradeoff

[ember cliff]

Anyone got exp an msi raider a18? I'm getting the 5090 and ryzen 9 model

[frosty prism]

Sad

[merry stirrup]

zen pushed intel past quad cores but now were kinda in the same boat with 8 cores lol

[frosty prism]

Well tbf amds 8 core ccds do be fighting hard with Intel

[merry stirrup]

next gen zen/intel supposeddly fixes that though

[frosty prism]

Amd went doe ipc and smt while I tel went e cores

[merry stirrup]

yeah real im not saying were in a bad spot

just rn were in a weirdd situation where no manu rn has a cpu that gives >8cores usable in games

both manus not just amd

[ember cliff]

Is amd better heat wise?

[merry stirrup]

no such thing

[frosty prism]

Heat wise?????

[merry stirrup]

what are you asking, reiterate

amd chips can draw lower power, but if youre just playing games, the ddifference between the two is negligible for like raw heat into room

temps =/= how much heat goes innto your room

[ember cliff]

I'm not getting a desktop

[merry stirrup]

okay then just assume theyre both not going to be great temp wise 💀

[frosty prism]

It's the msi laptop guy

[merry stirrup]

people tend to say amd is the better pick for mobile so ig that idk

[frosty prism]

Amd has such insane low power performance

[merry stirrup]

yeah but not ultra low power