#tech-chat-2

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edgy laurel
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ngl i'm pretty sure the 200mm fans on top were trying to pull through that rad, i don't think I yet understood how fans on radiators work

merry stirrup
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LOL

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guilty you are so silly

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your younger self had no idea how air worked…somehow…

edgy laurel
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you guys look back on stuff in 15 years, it'll be fun

frank cypress
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I dont need to look back to feel dumb

merry stirrup
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let me find the og floppa puter

frank cypress
edgy laurel
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i'm looking at that pic and I see the wheels on the case. i was sitting on the case rolling it through a hotel lobby at a LAN party and one of them broke. After that LAN, I went ITX

shell void
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i only really went full send into pc hardware knowledge after i got my 14900k and was forced to learn how to tune

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dont have to look back 15 years to find me saying or doing stupid things

edgy laurel
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15 years from now

frank cypress
wraith steeple
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I remembered how widely hated hard-line tubing was when it was first introduced

frank cypress
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that sounds handy

shell void
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it looks cool in photos but i would never hard tube my own pc

edgy laurel
shell void
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90 degree turns are not optimal for flow, and it's a pain in the ass

frank cypress
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I dont need to imagine that to know that it sucks

shell void
wraith steeple
# shell void i still dont like it xd

Though TBF this was back when only 12mm was still around. Daniel of SC (one of the OGs of Custom Watercooling YT) even experienced the backlash of that sentiment in the comments of his videosCB_kermit_lmao

edgy laurel
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i'm behind the camera. these were the days

frank cypress
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or early 2010s?

edgy laurel
frank cypress
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oh yeah you said 15 years ago

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derp

fervent scaffold
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Lan purdy

edgy laurel
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big-ass probably 720p TV looking like its about to fall off the wall

merry stirrup
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i cannot find my og pc

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depending on what one you count

vestal granite
edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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it was either an optiflex 790 with an i5 2400 and an rx 570 and a bomb power supply

vestal granite
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this dude is 100% going to knock that cup over

merry stirrup
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or or or an i7 3770 custom build

vestal granite
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move the mouse too hard its flyin into that guys laptop

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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thermaltake TR2 600W

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all i can say is that it somehow isn’t the worst thermaltake product

fervent scaffold
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It is pouring rain outside and my $600 shitbox daily has front windows that dont roll up lmao

vestal granite
merry stirrup
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that goes to the thermaltake smart

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
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the added dpi is what does that

merry stirrup
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thing is most mouse sensors have less latency at higher dpi’s and this tends to scale until a wall

merry stirrup
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i play at a wacky dpi number of 900

frank cypress
edgy laurel
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what was the OG deathadder

merry stirrup
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yeah

frank cypress
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not sure if thats true

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idk i play at high dpi cause no mouse space

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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i am a hybrid (hella wrist and hella arm) lowish sens player

frank cypress
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oh i use 2400 - 3200 dpi

merry stirrup
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i should just move to mouse acel but a lot of people said that long term it made them worse

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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i use 900 dpi and 1.24 cs sens (well apex, but since they’re the same engine, it’s the same)

edgy laurel
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my wrist could never

frank cypress
topaz veldt
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I use like 800-900 dpi and 11.35 in warzone

edgy laurel
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eventually it will start to bother you, had to learn to keep my wrist steady and move my arm

merry stirrup
edgy laurel
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i've been stuck on 800dpi for ages

topaz veldt
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I just like it

merry stirrup
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i think i played at like 7 in cod

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idk the conversion from the top of my head

topaz veldt
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I had a Corsair mouse with a hotkey that dropped dpi to like 400 for sniping

edgy laurel
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game sense is weird since its not universal

merry stirrup
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yeah

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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i genuinely convert all of my sens to be the same

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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I never could get used to those buttons

merry stirrup
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i use a site that seems to be pretty accurate and i suggest that if you want to play shooters and be good that you do the same 💀

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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i am a sweat lord

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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you TELL ME TO GET AN OLED

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what is that.

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FINE

fringe vigil
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What is that monitor

frank cypress
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this was before the miniled 😭

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its my second pc man

frank cypress
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circa prehistoric age

shell void
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👁️

merry stirrup
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it’s okay my first monitor was so old i couldn’t even find it on google

shell void
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youve had this the whole time and kept using 2080Ti?

frank cypress
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but then I sold it cause I never gpu rendered

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and I had access to 4090s

merry stirrup
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fuckin atx giants

frank cypress
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ok point is tho

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my mouse space

vestal granite
merry stirrup
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get a monitor arm and use your monitor slightly off centered and position yourself the same

fervent scaffold
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“Mouse space” lol

merry stirrup
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and then you’ll have more space

fervent scaffold
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I sent that pic in here a while back and people got really angry lmao

vestal granite
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i would bang my arm on the PC too often if i had my setup like that

fervent scaffold
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It was never permanent, it was just after I got the ltt desk pad

frank cypress
fervent scaffold
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Pc sits way further over now

merry stirrup
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i bang my mouse on the wall and the mousepad doesn’t even reach over there bro

edgy laurel
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old picture, old (shitty mouse) but there is so much room for activities

merry stirrup
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i have a large artisans worth of space

frank cypress
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its spilling over to the mouse pad

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I should get a 75%

merry stirrup
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epomaker shadow x calling your name

fervent scaffold
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Wife got me the desk pad. Definitely didnt pay attention to the size lmao

merry stirrup
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you can put a cute cat on the screen

fervent scaffold
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Desk blanket

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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And it’s cheap

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i got the wisteria linears for mine at home and the flamingo semi tactile things at the work one

frank cypress
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hmm ok I put money aside for that

merry stirrup
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i like the flamingos more lowkey i might swap em out 💀💀

fervent scaffold
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Is there like a goated, matching, keyboard and mouse set

frank cypress
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I want to get a small display first tho

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single monitor makes me angry

merry stirrup
vestal granite
merry stirrup
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just get independent ones that are the same color that are good

fervent scaffold
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Cause I like em to match, not a necessity but I like em to

merry stirrup
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my scyrox v8 truly is like peak gaming mouse i’d never give it up

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(maybe for a wl beastX)

fervent scaffold
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Isnt that like

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Ass backwards

merry stirrup
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double ball action

neat shuttle
merry stirrup
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and those are lookin different bro, you should get that checked out

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might have cancer or somethin

neat shuttle
hoary hatch
edgy laurel
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ok, 28 Years Later was actually good, im impressed. fucking weirdo ending

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I think it just came out

vestal granite
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yeah i think so, just saw it on the online website front page i was just on

edgy laurel
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it was apparently filmed alongside the 4th one

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and the ending did set things up for that

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i don't actually remember the second one

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this one felt a lot like the first in the style

topaz veldt
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oh sorry, Years is new

edgy laurel
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well, yeah lol

topaz veldt
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my b

edgy laurel
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oh, ok so yeah Danny Boyle didn't do the second one. thats why this feels a lot like the first movie

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anyway, if you know the first movie, see this new one

topaz veldt
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what a weird build

shell void
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looks optimal to me

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
shell void
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im not sure how youd go about manually assigning threads to cores with a 285K because the cores arent in a consistent order

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like you cant just say worker count 8

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well i guess you could but it wouldnt be a good idea

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P P
E E
E E
P P
P P
E E
E E
P P

topaz veldt
shell void
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i think you just have to pray that itll work on its own

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i wish they just kept the cores in a front to back config like ADL/RPL

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minor heat distribution benefits do not outweigh fricking up scheduling

iron relic
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Rampage 3 extreme base / black edition or evga x58 classified x3 is meta

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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on my E30 I did suspension travel sensors

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I never truly, fully dialed it in, but it was cool data

edgy laurel
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and I guess act as a trigger for things

topaz veldt
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I fed it into the ECU for logging and you can technically do like torque demand and such

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it gets super crazy nerdy

pure garnet
shell void
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idk ive never looked at process lasso

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floppa used that extensively to cope with his 6+6 nightmare

merry stirrup
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yes

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and it mostly worked and stopped it from being as slow as my 11700K

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thanks amd

pure garnet
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i almost got a 7900x3d but i didnt want the asrock board newegg was bundling

edgy laurel
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well well well

merry stirrup
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i got mine cause it was cheap

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then i sold it and bought intel

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do not regret

frank cypress
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🙏

shell void
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peggle wouldve been completely unplayable

merry stirrup
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lga 1700 full tune just smacks

pure garnet
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it would’ve been better than my 13700k in the sense it wasn’t dead but yeah i’d probably have replaced it already

frank cypress
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buying a 7900x3d is like buying two defective cpus glued together

merry stirrup
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cause it is

pure garnet
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14900k is still 440, i sleep

merry stirrup
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380 🙏

frank cypress
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me and goppa paid less for our 13900ks

shell void
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three people in here bought i9s after snail and i stopped using ours

pure garnet
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yeah but then i don’t get intel application optimization without advanced mode so its ewaste fr

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is there any logic to slamming cas latency or do i just send voltage and pray

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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step of two

pure garnet
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oh i might be able to go quite down then

merry stirrup
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don’t get your hopes up

pure garnet
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i’m stable at cl30 at 1.3v vdd/vddq

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so 28-26 may work

merry stirrup
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do 1.4c28 and see if it works

pure garnet
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i don’t think a 14900k would be happy on a lf3 240 anyway

shell void
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6000cl28 is easy as shit

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go for 1.5vdd 1.4vddq 1.4vddio 6000cl26

frank cypress
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why not 280mm tho

shell void
pure garnet
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because the h5 flow is a fisher price computer case

shell void
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it can barely run at 253w

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my lf3 420 could maintain 320w

pure garnet
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i can do 280 up front but the artic won’t fit with my gpu

frank cypress
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id be roasted alive if you and goppa didnt help me out

shell void
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my 14900k is running at 8c8t 3.2ghz max :p

frank cypress
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its been so warm here

shell void
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turned that jawn into a pentium

pure garnet
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am i bothering with any other primaries or just cl

frank cypress
merry stirrup
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trp can go low on hynix a i think you told me it was h24m

pure garnet
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26-36-36 it is then

shell void
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i cant run 26-36 it straight up wont post

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26-38 is fine though

pure garnet
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probably should’ve grabbed testmem but it’s fine

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well i didn’t hang on the dram light so get owned i guess

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it posted until it didn’t

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now to trip safe mode on purpose so i can fix it

young void
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Config
"CPU" { [1,4,5,8] idk, I know how to limit cores not how to choose specifics linkthink well guess i havent tried really to assign specific cores, sometimes can also use "SetThreads" xx but that still would be a limiting vs specifics

pure garnet
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if i gotta pull the cmos already gonna be mad

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stupid -f board has no button for it

shell void
turbid locust
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In actual use in games and shit? totally fine

merry stirrup
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what wattage? is that ht off?

pure garnet
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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and its hitting 90C? damn

pure garnet
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okay i got too greedy

merry stirrup
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safe to say delid is effective fuck

shell void
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p12s are buns that's not surprising

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as is the intel bracket for the og lf3

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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i have generic china fans that are probably 100mm effectively

pure garnet
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i’ve officially hit an overclockers rite of passage

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i have in fact corrupted the windows bootloader

turbid locust
shell void
merry stirrup
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is it the error screen where you can press enter to retry

pure garnet
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yeah

merry stirrup
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spam enter

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or change your settings back then spam enter

pure garnet
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lemme back off to stable yeah

merry stirrup
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if you spam enter before making it stable itll definitely corrupt windows

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but thats the meta for benching sometimes

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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sometimes itll just lock in no idea why spamming enter works

merry stirrup
shell void
young void
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Pop that battery out gib 10-15 seconds i believe in youuu (also boot is gonna mem training again)

shell void
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accept that youre a brokie and enjoy the b850 tomahawk which is perfectly adequate

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or buy a new apex

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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okay 26-36-36 just ain’t happening

merry stirrup
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you dont need to direct die if you delid shawty

pure garnet
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this is not posting again

merry stirrup
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dont question mark me

turbid locust
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Am I misunderstanding what delid means

merry stirrup
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do you not know the ancient methods

young void
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Mem training after clear is gonna take a few mins*

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Itll sit on orange led training

pure garnet
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nah i didn’t pull the cmos till just now because i didn’t wanna get on my floor

young void
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Silly goose

merry stirrup
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you can delid, replace the stock thick ass layer of solder with liquid metal, scrape the glue off, plop the IHS back on and youll have 10-15c lower temps

merry stirrup
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oh

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and the contact frame holds it in place

pure garnet
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holding enter at jedec did nothing floppa

merry stirrup
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and a delid tool is 11$

turbid locust
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I wanna get one of those goofy full copper IHSs lmao

merry stirrup
shell void
merry stirrup
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this is true

turbid locust
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but like copper copper

shell void
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but it's valid to buy one of those if youre too lazy to lap

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theyre basically just prelapped ihs

merry stirrup
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if you buy a decent one thats actually flat

shell void
turbid locust
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yes

shell void
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they just have a thick nickel plating and engraved text

merry stirrup
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theres even gold on it

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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Anyways I’m not nuking resale value anyway

merry stirrup
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i guess thats engraving but you cant really feel it

shell void
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laser etching so badass

shell void
merry stirrup
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and it wears away with LM so

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its definitely not engraving in a traditional sense

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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mac you have a 14th gen core i9, you nuked the resale value when purchasing it

turbid locust
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Nah

merry stirrup
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nobody wants a second hand one

turbid locust
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“14900k manually tuned its entire life in daily system” will sell on hwbot lmao

pure garnet
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oh wait floppa it just boots now

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alr whatever windows sucks

merry stirrup
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i fixed it remotely dw bro

pure garnet
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locked in my brother

shell void
pure garnet
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now these are some TIMINGS

shell void
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so meta

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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people on hwbot will probably sell you a binning reject they say is unbinned

turbid locust
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Real

merry stirrup
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selling daily 14900K unbinned only tested from rma

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(doesnt do 7200)

topaz veldt
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I love my G9 Neo but man the pixel refresh is totally weird compared to qd-oled

turbid locust
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If I had a 14900k that didn’t do 7200 it would simply receive 9mm straight to IHS

pure garnet
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26-38-38 also resulted in windows no boot, these sticks suck

turbid locust
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what sticks are they

shell void
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are you giving it a decent amount of voltage

pure garnet
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even the bios is showing up as corrupted

pure garnet
topaz veldt
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what sticks

shell void
merry stirrup
pure garnet
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old fart m die moment

merry stirrup
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idk how well mdie scales

shell void
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maybe i underestimate how much voltage M die will need to slam timings

merry stirrup
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or if old mdie can even do c26

turbid locust
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oh yeah you’re not doing that shit on old M lmao

topaz veldt
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My m die run 6000 cl26 at 1.37

shell void
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i have bottom of the barrel bin dual rank A die and it does 6400cl26 at 1.6

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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i do have an a die kit, but it’s also just about as old

turbid locust
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My old M die kit doesn’t boot above 6800

pure garnet
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older actually, 2023 kit

merry stirrup
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a die is just like swag

topaz veldt
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My new M die kit 8000 CL32 🤙

pure garnet
turbid locust
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If you booted 8K it’s not old M die

pure garnet
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my record was like 56 seconds of tm5

turbid locust
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Old M die maxes at like 7200 deadass

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16GB sticks?

pure garnet
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24

merry stirrup
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different game

turbid locust
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yeah that’s not even old m die lmao

pure garnet
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turbid locust
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entirely different die

topaz veldt
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24G won't do CL26

merry stirrup
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i dont expect it to naw

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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not unbinned crap

shell void
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i think gskill sold a 2x24 6000cl26 kit

turbid locust
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yeah

merry stirrup
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they do

pure garnet
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i thought all 24gb hynix models were m die

topaz veldt
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not without like 1.5-1.6v

merry stirrup
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they are you cant get a on 24gb

topaz veldt
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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H16M and H24M

pure garnet
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ah

turbid locust
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H16M is old M die

topaz veldt
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H24M = 8000+

pure garnet
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well i have that and a 2022ish a die kit

merry stirrup
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but with typically worse primaries and i think trrds

topaz veldt
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"New" 16G M-die are binning at 6000 CL26

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but typical 6000 CL30 M die is not going to do it

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or not without a shit ton of volts

turbid locust
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I need to bin my greenies for 6000cl26 now that I can unlock PMIC on mpower

merry stirrup
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my buddies h16a kit couldnt even boot 8k at the settings mine can which stokes my ego cause i have a pretty shit kit

merry stirrup
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maybe those are your ticket to 8k 💀

topaz veldt
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Yeah I had H16A XMP 7600 taht would barely do 7800-8000

pure garnet
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throwing more voltage at the problem then

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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oh mine does over 8k easy

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i too post 8400 on juan stick

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
pure garnet
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1.6/1.5 is getting me into windows

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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I run 8600 on this 24/7, 9000 tinker

shell void
merry stirrup
turbid locust
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It didn’t make it to windows, but it posted

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8400 booted and ran

merry stirrup
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i have bench os ill send basically anything

turbid locust
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But yeah I think my green sticks are unironically decent

topaz veldt
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I just did a mild CPU OC on this 8600 setup, getting 44600 in R23 multi, Warzone stable, tm5/karhu stable, its fine

turbid locust
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shit does 6000 28-36-36 at like 1.35v iirc

shell void
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i would love to see how my 9800x3d performs on an apex with 1r dimms because it has pretty great memory controllers

turbid locust
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I wanna see zen 6 IMC man

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Do we think they continue with gear 1 shenanigans or do they full send gear 2

shell void
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hopefully g2 but idk how well having one memory channel per IOD is gonna work out

devout ridge
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Did zen3 use ddr4 gear1 or gear2

devout ridge
merry stirrup
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synced

devout ridge
merry stirrup
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FCLK:UCLK:MCLK are all equal

shell void
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UCLK (memory controller clockspeed), FCLK (infinity fabric clockspeed), and MCLK (memory clockspeed) all set at the same speed

merry stirrup
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2:1 js where uclk runs at half the speed as mclk

pure garnet
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wow ram fan is actually putting in work rn

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
shell void
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a true ram tuner far ahead of his time

pure garnet
brittle trellis
shell void
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it's optimal bro

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(it's probably worse than just slapping a 120mm fan directly on the memory)

pure garnet
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i can get a new in box 870 tomahawk for 210 on ebay

vague cobalt
hollow hull
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it's a used product

indigo walrus
arctic bronze
indigo walrus
merry stirrup
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both my sticks hit 8600

pure garnet
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resistance tuning time

indigo walrus
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Perfectly adequate amount of shipping. Yup. These are all fine. No problems here. /s

vestal granite
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thats perfect, you need the air in the box to insulate it

arctic bronze
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😌

vague cobalt
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Is this one good https://a.co/d/gYfcd4S

indigo walrus
arctic bronze
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Its quite the steal

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14 bucks for 64g ssd

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Amazing

merry stirrup
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i got my intel ssd for 12$ and it’s 180g and enterprise

young void
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Usually at least come in the small wd box(non branded brown box)

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With the lil plastic legs

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Happens though some peeps lol

frank cypress
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thats cheap

arctic bronze
young void
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These lil boxes are decent

young void
turbid locust
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@merry stirrup @topaz veldt considering graduating my 7700x and board to home server/NAS

turbid locust
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It will be a project that takes some time but I could do it

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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man sfx PSUs are kinda expensive lmao

brisk jolt
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i got my sf850 like 23% off

pure garnet
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sf850 was just on sale today i think

young void
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Most psu rn are kinda marked up for some reasons

brisk jolt
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corsair did do a summer sale with 20% off

turbid locust
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well frick

brisk jolt
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my sf850 is still with my guy

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he’s serving the military rn

brisk jolt
pure garnet
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did you get the 2024

brisk jolt
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yes

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sadly it isnt the latest batch with black fans

frank cypress
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the mac i know would never buy intel

turbid locust
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Yeah I bought a z790 Mpower and 14900K a couple weeks ago lmao

frank cypress
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i feel like they're mixing you up with michael but idk if i missed smth

frank cypress
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akn officially took over mac's identity

turbid locust
brisk jolt
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his mpowet was stuck in customs for like 2 weeks iirc

frank cypress
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that's why we haven't been seeing him recently

brisk jolt
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@steel stream wakeup

rare fern
turbid locust
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and the mpower isn’t as good as I thought, I haven’t been able to stabilize >7600MT/s with two sticks yet

brisk jolt
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im gonna get a U7 NVL with a Z990i nova or whatever asrock shits out

frank cypress
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you don't have an asus board, i forgor

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sick thoughm, how are you liking it so far?

turbid locust
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Honestly from a daily use perspective… almost identical experience as my 7700x lol

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Cool to tinker with though, and the buff in some game performance is nice

brisk jolt
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nah he was doing bbq in minecraft with the 14900k

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he doubled the fps in valorant (hes still on 144hz)

turbid locust
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I did smoke my entire system with Minecraft yesterday yes

turbid locust
frank cypress
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are you running with e core and ht disabled?

turbid locust
#

HT disabled yes, E core no

pure garnet
#

that sounds like an awful way to use it

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8 threads total

frank cypress
#

that's how michael uses his iirc

pure garnet
#

no he has e cores on

turbid locust
#

I haven’t noticed the E cores doing anything useful yet

pure garnet
#

ran cinebench yet?

frank cypress
#

oh mb

turbid locust
#

Yeah but that’s all I’ve seen them do lol

pure garnet
#

that and fortnite are the only 2 times they've been loaded on my chip

frank cypress
#

my use is perhaps a bit more niche

pure garnet
#

pretty sure apo just flat out parks them in ffxiv

turbid locust
#

I launched some games that load the shaders and whatnot at the very start and… every game just set the 8 P cores to 100% and the E cores did nothing

pure garnet
#

i'd run ht off but i only have 8 ecores on the 12900k

#

i'd love to grab a 14900k but they're priced in a way i could almost just get a 265k instead

turbid locust
#

I was able to buy mine new for $350

pure garnet
#

rn they're 430 or 460 i dont remember, my computer is kinda unsuable with vt3 going

#

started reading about resistance timings but i do not have confidence in dialing those in to try 8000 again

brisk jolt
#

im gonna settle with my 6200 cl28

pure garnet
#

im going for 6000cl26 rn

#

it looks stable so far, about an hour in

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

i would assume they are roughly similar

fervent scaffold
#

Do I have to worry about my mobo when selecting a cpu? Like for power reasons?

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Like if I wanted to upgrade from my I5-14600k to a I9-14900k down the road

brisk jolt
#

no unless its for OC

fervent scaffold
#

Gotcha, thanks

edgy laurel
#

only if looking at extremes

fervent scaffold
#

I dont think itd be worth it anyways

#

I think the 14600k is a pretty decent balance with this 5070ti

edgy laurel
#

as in buying the $85 uber budget board for your i9

fervent scaffold
#

I dont think its worth anything close to $200 anymore but Im still happy with it

#

Oh well maybe it is

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Idk tho, I cant ever seem to find my mobo, its kinda weird

#

I have the MSI Z790 gaming wifi, but if you search it, all you ever see is the Z790 Gaming Plus Wifi

turbid locust
fathom gust
#

Guys why my i7 14650HX id not performing well enough in multicore test of cinebench but performs well in other tests

brisk jolt
fervent scaffold
#

I found out they make 2 different mobos that are almost identical but not the same after trying to do a bios update

turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

ye

turbid locust
#

Should be able to do 6000cl26 at 1.55-1.65v VDD

#

What VDD are you running for c28

brisk jolt
#

1.5

turbid locust
#

what cpu

brisk jolt
#

98

pure garnet
#

that sounds high req for a die

turbid locust
turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

iirc I did 1.55v for 6400 c28 and it was unstable

pure garnet
#

1.55 vdd 1.45vddq is what my 24m is on rn and i was under the impression it needed more voltage for timings than a die

turbid locust
#

have you tried c26 at all Setsuna

pure garnet
#

7800x3d

turbid locust
#

what SoC voltage

pure garnet
#

1.25 vddio 1.15 vsoc

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2133 fclk

turbid locust
#

raise VSoC to like 1.25v and retest c26

pure garnet
#

i mean it’s testing rn

turbid locust
#

drop FCLK to 2000 for now

pure garnet
#

i’m like hour fifteen into vt3 passing on loop with furmark open

brisk jolt
#

i didnt try 1.6

turbid locust
#

yeah 6200 is harder lol

pure garnet
#

i actually think my memory sticks are fairly decent since they’ll get into windows at 8k in 1.4/1.4 but i don’t have the board for it

turbid locust
#

anways what I’m getting at here fellas is the harder you slam primary timings in gear 1/1:1 the more VSoC you’ll need

brisk jolt
#

i dont rmb my soc voltage lmao

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

For example, my 7700x can do 6000 1:1 at 1.18v SOC all day. BUT. It cannot do 6000c26 at 1.18v soc.

#

Needs 1.25v soc to do 6000c26

pure garnet
#

so far im beating michael in the getting 26-36 to post but im also at a higher voltage so that may not count

#

if i drop the vdd voltage at all the board just garbles corrupted colors everywhere

brisk jolt
#

mines at 1.26 for soc rn

turbid locust
#

personally I would try more than ycruncher but

turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

i didnt directly tweak the SOC i just put in a random number tbh

pure garnet
#

but i let vt3 run overnight

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

oh actually are these the configs people like using

turbid locust
#

anyways I think my goal is 7600c28 on my 14900K for now

pure garnet
#

kinda wanna see if the 12900k can do 7200 at all but i dont have windows installed on that pc

#

and i kinda need it for stable purposes rn

turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

i most certainly cant do 6400 cl28 nor 6200 cl26 as ts unstable

#

6400c28 boots into safe mode

turbid locust
#

Well like, fortunately for you chasing tCL is solely for the flex/bragging rights lmao

#

It ultimately doesn’t really matter as long as it’s not egregiously loose

pure garnet
#

im out of things to mess with outside of tcl

#

if i go to 6200 then i lose my 2133 fclk so it's not really a gain iirc

turbid locust
#

I kinda ram tune backwards than what’s recommended lol

fervent scaffold
#

I wish I understood this talk more lol

brisk jolt
#

iirc 5nail said to do 1.28soc if I were to attempt c26

#

but likely id also need to do like 1.6v

pure garnet
#

i ran the buildzoid old fart timings for a long time and now im using a mix of my own settings + updated guidance doc

brisk jolt
#

my ASSrock mobo limits it at 1.6v

#

cant go any higher than 1.6

turbid locust
#

You’re supposed to tune tertiary/secondary timings first and then dial in primary timings but I always start with primaries lol

pure garnet
#

i'd be cool with losing a few fps to get 8000 stable just to have the aura of 8000 stable but im not gonna buy another board rn

turbid locust
#

Well let me be the first to tell you gear 2 on AM5 is kinda miserable to get stable so

pure garnet
#

i would have to adjust the electrical timings to even attempt it again, and i'd rather not do that

#

when i upgrade cpus i'll either get a 2 dimm board or a quality 4 dimm one

turbid locust
#

In gear 1 you have a lot of wiggle room with things like VDDQ, VDDG, VDDIO, etc

#

In gear 2 if those signaling voltages are even barely off what they need to be you’ll error lmao

pure garnet
#

my record at 8000 was 56 seconds of testmem5

merry stirrup
#

22 hours

pure garnet
#

was at like uhhhhhhhhh 1.37v viddio then 1.55/1.5 i think?

#

i don't think the dimms even need that much voltage but i was kinda lost for ideas

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

(cpu hardly has a functioning io die)

pure garnet
#

im like 90% sure if i borrowed an itx board it would pass fine

merry stirrup
#

this is why we buy the immasculating tiny board

pure garnet
#

i need more pcie slots than that board sorry

devout ridge
#

if there’s an ITX board with nitropath it should be even easier

#

i think that’s what that weird socket upgrade was called for ram

pure garnet
#

a girl likes her 10gb nic that rarely goes into 10gb mode anymore

merry stirrup
#

from the slot thats on the back of the board

#

im gigabrain dont even

pure garnet
#

i don't think 4.0x2 is enough

merry stirrup
#

its x4

#

bro what do you think this is the fucking stone age?

#

we have boards that can have like 4 full laned drives on them why would itx be different

pure garnet
#

no i just kinda forgot what nvmes are because they're not interesting to me

brisk jolt
#

i want a z990i nova

merry stirrup
#

16gbits yo

pure garnet
#

yeah x4 would work but that's a level of jank i dont think i'll be doing

#

card is 3.0x4

#

my old one was 2.0x8 though

merry stirrup
#

dayum

#

a lil one lane guy

#

it would work in an 011 mini or something dont even lie

pure garnet
#

i have an o11 mini it's giant it would obv fit

#

the o11 mini uses full atx boards

#

i just don't use it because i hate it visually

brisk jolt
#

I want a B850 aorus elite just so I can access another pcie slot

pure garnet
#

if i had infinite money to blow i'd get an apex but realistically i'd buy an ebay new stock x870 tomahawk for 200 before i buy an itx board and risers

brisk jolt
#

my x870 steel legend also looks mid

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

ill use the SL as a donor board fr

merry stirrup
#

you wouldnt see it

#

but you would have tiny board

#

costs 😔

pure garnet
#

tiny board has no aura :c

merry stirrup
#

tiny board has all the auuuuuuuura its twooooooo diimmms

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

no post code unless you got macs i guess

#

does an external board really count

merry stirrup
#

its goated

pure garnet
#

i just want a postcode, a reset cmos button, and 8000 support really

#

that's all i miss from this -f

merry stirrup
#

z790 mpower but for amd

#

fucking losers never dropping the b850 mpower

pure garnet
#

well that and a usuable amount of lanes but this is consumer amd so that's a pipe dream

merry stirrup
#

buuusstt

#

wait kyoko

#

hear me out

#

this ones released

#

B850 AYW Wifi

#

i think its biggest flaw is general IO but like on goofish its pretty cheap

#

hunnid dollar

pure garnet
#

the fuck is goofish

merry stirrup
#

china ebay

#
pure garnet
#

how do i get this to america

merry stirrup
#

ask mac how he got his mpower

#

its pretty simple for the most part i think and fees are surprisingly not bad

turbid locust
#

I did not understand half the shit that was being said to me because Google translate was questionable

#

I just kept paying them money and it eventually shipped lmfao

pure garnet
#

i know a friend that handles a lot of arcade imports from japan so maybe they'd have a clue on forwarding it in english

turbid locust
#

I went through superbuy though

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

B850 forces are good but ONLY for memory OC

#

4 USB ports

#

and for some reason 3 NVME slots

indigo tree
#

I need help

turbid locust
#

But I paid for the item from the seller, the seller shipped it to superbuy’s warehouse, I paid their warehouse stock fee which was like $8, and then once they processed it they sent me shipping options and I paid those and they sent it out

indigo tree
#

Why do I tell my camera to capture RAW when all I ever do is use the JPEG and RAW confuses me?

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

oh the force isnt the one i sent

pure garnet
#

i know someone who likes the strix aesthetic enough to sell this board to

merry stirrup
#

the force is this ungodly thing

pure garnet
#

superbuy says 113 with their fee rn

#

so then whatever shipping+customs is

merry stirrup
#

OH MYG OD

#

AH. i see

#

that is NOT making it through customs

fervent scaffold
pure garnet
#

passed 2 hours of vt3 so im gonna run testmem5 extreme till happy gilmore ends

merry stirrup
#

google translate hits different

pure garnet
#

then i'll go back to vt3 overnight

#

wow extreme is making this pc die

merry stirrup
#

wait this thing is advanced

pure garnet
#

if i sell the 12900ks system i could just cop this

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

apex for a 7800x3d has to be some form of aura

merry stirrup
#

lmao

turbid locust
#

Floppa is it bad I’m considering importing a AYW OC

merry stirrup
#

dude i am too

#

150$ whattt

turbid locust
#

for real

merry stirrup
#

do you want to sell me your mpower maybe and i can sell off my edge

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

if you go that route

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

extreme seems like quite the unrealistic load

#

temps are higher with it just doing than vt3 and furmark were

fervent scaffold
#

Chef Boyardee canned spaghetti and meatballs

hoary hatch
#

You have to have it

turbid locust
#

But basically if it passes extreme it’s stable imo

pure garnet
#

we’re about done with the first cycle

floral spear
#

Me when that pension fund hit after 60 years of Minimum Wage

pure garnet
#

cl26 was not stable but i don’t care to adjust more tonight

#

checked tm5 bc i wanted to eep without bright lights and 22 errors 🦖

midnight cairn
#

how would anyone here rate the AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS

warm falcon
frail wyvern
lone scarab
livid flame
#

Probably get featured on the WAN show for that one if you also ping Luke

brisk jolt
wraith steeple
#

For me it's getting off of work

#

I'm tired

brisk jolt
#

because I work in a vegetarian restaurant lmao

#

it gets so goddamn busy I run around like some psychopath

wraith steeple
#

Ah

#

It's 6 AM where I'm at. Sleep schedule is beyond fucked (not that it existed anyway)

brisk jolt
#

like that shit is genuinely fun looking back

#

like it wasnt directly a job, but an internship

wraith steeple
#

7 AM or PM

livid flame
brisk jolt
versed crow
#

anyone know a good mechanical tactile but non clicky keyboard for under 100

versed crow
topaz veldt
versed crow
edgy laurel
versed crow
#

found out they are all linear for the 75%s in my price range so moved to different places

#

i dont really care for sound i just want a non clicky tactile

faint violet
versed crow
#

tbh ive never tried it, but i have red linear and blue clicky and dislike both so im guessing its the way to go

#

i want something that feels like membrane but better

edgy laurel
#

ya, keychron is a very safe "babies first real keyboard" option

topaz veldt
#

I have many switches

edgy laurel
faint violet
#

Im waiting for the parts for my bridge75 build and I already want another 😅

final glacier
topaz veldt
#

Game looks good*

edgy laurel
#

big *

topaz veldt
#

that too but that's real BF

granite dirge
edgy laurel
#

(i'm still going to play it)

topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel I was trying to remember what map I have in my head, I don't remember which game it was.... but it was a huge map, bunches of helis (I'd say more than usual, maybe), and the general environment was like a big, big mountain field/valley but it was grassy and green not snowy/rocky/desert

granite dirge
#

The only battlefield I ever played was 3 and there was too much going on for me

topaz veldt
#

I think some of my most favorite maps were from BC2. Valparaiso was prob my fav.

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
#

it was like gigantor valley/mountains and snipers would go up on the mountain tops and there were huge distances

edgy laurel
#

ohh, mountains. Well I can think of one just like that from 2042

topaz veldt
#

yeah no it was older

#

I can picture in my head but I literally can't figure out what its from

#

It may have been part of one of the vehicle expansions or something

edgy laurel
#

first i thought you were talking Golmud Railway https://youtu.be/dTbHygU7z1g?t=167

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topaz veldt
#

no its close but that's not it

#

but those types of hills/mountains, but little bird wasn't in it, so I think it was pre BF4

undone relic
#

Guys!! I’ve been making a front end app to replace explorer.exe shell in windows.

It’s styled like Xbox one orginal os and auto finds games, Roms, apps and emulators!

Using API keys and tokens for owned games.

Addons will be like kodi but for store front, by default comes with steam, Xbox ect

#

What features could be useful? I’ve got a games store, friends system and self hosted servers for games

topaz veldt
#

banzo

edgy laurel
#

coming down the jungle hill on attack, making that left hand turn then way back up the hill. lighthouse out on the right

#

classic Rush better come back

topaz veldt
#

Yup - I always went lighthouse

edgy laurel
#

Hello, robot.

dusk agate
edgy laurel
#

5nail what is happening

misty wasp
versed crow
# edgy laurel ya, keychron is a very safe "babies first real keyboard" option

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CMWJSQMB/ got any thoughts on this? not a huge fan on the screen but the 'gift switch' is tactile from what i can see

#

would prefer if there was an option without the screen for a nice price.,,

turbid locust
#

7600c28 doesn’t boot and 7600c30 errors

#

chat this is so sad

#

Alexa, play “In the End” by Linkin Park

topaz veldt
#

People really pissing me off today

versed crow
#

my pc just had a really weird crash where do i see why it did that

turbid locust
versed crow
#

uninstalled a steam game and got bsod

edgy laurel
#

and its still there in the Open Issues section

topaz veldt
# turbid locust me daily

I just designed this lab/pod for this GPU team. XE7740s, 4xH200s per, blah blah.

Turns out they just ordered some HP workstation w/ RTX 6000

#

Like wtf are you doing

shell void
#

they want blackwell aura boss

#

hopper is stone age technology

topaz veldt
#

they can want all they want... they can't get to the data from a workstation

#

These people have no idea how shit works - the PBs of data that will be in the dataset is not accessible from their desk in god knows where lol

#

These are big, huge, systems on 100 Gbps+ networks

vocal plume
#

@topaz veldt "but muh money savings"

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
wise bear
#

"CFO said this is a better plan execution to downsize the datacenter.."

shell void
#

are you able to return the HP box(s)

topaz veldt
wise bear
#

OH BOY

topaz veldt
vocal plume
#

Ooooof

topaz veldt
#

We're a 6000 person company, CFO is not looking at this

wise bear
vocal plume
#

Do that and tell them they are bad dogs and they shouldnt be ordering shit they know nothing about

wise bear
#

Actually, just pour water on the idiot who auth'd it

shell void
wise bear
#

Make sure it's water from j-bends

#

from the staff lounge

brisk jolt
shell void
#

ten floggings for each person who orchestrated this mutiny snail

brisk jolt
#

send’em to the gulag

wise bear
topaz veldt
#

Its just very frustrating, I've got them 4 x 564GB of vram.... they bought 3 RTX 6000s on their own hooked up to the network via 1 Gbps in some branch office ... like... what the fuck are you doing

wise bear
#

Even more reason why I refuse to work in corpo

brisk jolt
#

well fuckin done

shell void
vocal plume
brisk jolt
#

meta? nah thats LETA

topaz veldt
#

They just blew $500k+ and then spent another like $30k on workstations why

topaz veldt
#

They do not understand infrastructure, which is fine, but they also don't understand like.... bigger picture all the time

wise bear
#

tc1 has already annoyed me and it's only 7 am

shell void
#

putting in a $30K PO because you just wanna play with new cards isn’t acceptable

topaz veldt
#

They don't even think about this shit

brisk jolt
#

1gbps is the worst part of the bunch

topaz veldt
#

Thats a factor but also like... I deal with big iron data center arch, these dudes ... I have no idea where they are in the world

#

Data locality is a real thing for this

brisk jolt
#

the pro 6000 thing was whatever, but 1gbps is incredible slow for enterprise

topaz veldt
#

I am talking like.... office space seats

#

No enterprise is running 10 Gbps to seats, etc.

brisk jolt
#

ah, Not sure if enterprise was the correct word for that

topaz veldt
#

And honestly even 10 Gbps is slow. The platforms housing this data is on like 4 x 100 Gbps MPIO - 800 Gbps+

hoary hatch
#

But all of our thunderbolt docks are gig

#

And presumably the keystones under the desk are designed for gig

brisk jolt
#

I’d settle for 5G ethernet, im still using fugging wifi godamnit

hoary hatch
#

And most people don't even have Ethernet to their thunderbolt dock and just use wifi

shell void
#

10Gbps is extremely slow

#

one gigabyte per second wow exhilarating

hoary hatch
shell void
#

unfortunately

midnight scarab
hoary hatch
#

Lmao

shell void
#

for local data transfer 10Gbps is extremely slow regardless though tbh

#

1/15th of a gen 5 ssd 🔥

shell void
#

my wan connection at home is only 300/20Mbps now so i’m very well aware that i’m being a prude

wise bear
turbid locust
#

laughs in 11 IoT LTSC

wise bear
#

also just.. right click > uninstall

shell void
#

25h2 comin soon

wise bear
#

"wuhh muh telemetries"

turbid locust
fervent scaffold
#

Im done lol

shell void
#

not ltsc though because that’s the point of ltsc

hoary hatch
topaz veldt
#

But these dudes are putting workstations at their feet somewhere and plugging into an office port .... that A) cannot even get to the data security-wise, B) we're running data on Oracle Exadata/Powerflex that do like 200M IO... down to a.... a 1 gbps its just so stupid and grrgrgrgr

hoary hatch
#

However 10gbps is fine for home local data transfer because most people use floppy disks for their NAS

brisk jolt
#

i can walk faster than that 1gbps

wise bear
#

I'm still annoyed that my stupid trailer park isn't getting ftth

hoary hatch
#

That's why I live in a city

hoary hatch
#

Gigabit is fine for me cause I have a shitty laptop and use outlook/SharePoint

wise bear
hoary hatch
#

If I had a proper workstation at work I'd want faster networking

hoary hatch
#

JFC that's basically nothing

#

But it's like brand new I guess

wise bear
#

if I find a trailer home on actual property I may just move into that so I don't have a fucking land management group taping notices to my door

hoary hatch
#

I'll check in on the coverage in a year

wise bear
#

North springfield has a stupid amount of ftth coverage because it's all overhead utilities

#

south of main? hardly any

#

So fucking dumb

topaz veldt
#

I mean its the whole point of RTX 6000 at the end of the day

#

but they want to test against RAG and shit that lives in much bigger,better, faster environments

shell void
#

i’m rockin that 300 down 20 up cellular internet because it’s the best option where i am unfortunately

topaz veldt
#

They have been doing a lot with OpenAI and other Azure shit, which has got them in trouble but also logistical mess

shell void
#

at least i get a static public ip

#

and it’s been pretty stable

topaz veldt
#

have you always been on that internet?

shell void
#

the upload bandwidth just sucks

#

i was on spectrum cable up until a couple months ago

#

which was extremely unreliable for years even after changing out all equipment and cables

topaz veldt
#

ah word

shell void
#

and they only gave me 40Mbps upload anyway for double the price

topaz veldt
#

yeah thats how xfinity is

#

I think have like 1.2 Gbps xfinity but tis like 40 mbps up

fervent scaffold
#

My mom has that internet and it sucks ass

shell void
#

it’s all they can do because they haven’t rolled out high split docsis 3.1 equipment

fervent scaffold
#

But i think she got a real low download/upload speeds

shell void
#

but that’s on them solely for being lazy and greedy

shell void
topaz veldt
shell void
#

both your home location and where you place the gateway in your home

fervent scaffold
pure garnet
#

symmetrical gig is the only plan my isp offers for my neighborhood now

shell void
#

it has to be right next to a window that’s facing the tower or else your signal is gonna be weak and the service will drop periodically

wise bear
shell void
#

i get around -86 to -90dBm with the spot i have it in right now, and i get the full 300/20Mbps with like 99.9% uptime

#

i had it in a different room before and only got -107dBm which performed a lot worse

edgy laurel
#

Now hack in better external antennas and put them on the roof

shell void
#

that’s meta for sure

topaz veldt
cold vale
#

has anyone experienced their PC slowing down after doing winaero tweaks?
yt takes wayyyyyy longer to load now, and im kinda scared

shell void
#

if you hang an external antenna on a pole with t-mobile home internet then you can get like 1000/100Mbps

#

Verizon limits you to 300/20Mbps though so it would be pointless for me

edgy laurel
cold vale
edgy laurel
shell void
pure garnet
cold vale
cold vale
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gg wp

wise bear
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Couldn't hurt to stop trying to break windows because you can't move on from an outdated os skin

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but what do i know

edgy laurel
# cold vale gg wp

I took one glance at that software when J2C showcased it a week ago. First thought was "yep, some kids are going to watch this and wreck their systems. we'll see them in discord"

And here we are

cold vale
wise bear
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"wheres my old right-click context menu" under more options

topaz veldt
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first thing i do on new install lol

edgy laurel
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i can't find cortana on my systems, i dunno what y'all are doing. might have disabled it ages ago i guess

wise bear
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^

cold vale
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if i watch a linus video on it, and just completely copy what he does
would that be my best move?

topaz veldt
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btw @edgy laurel remember I replaced my xfinity router with Dream Router?

clear juniper
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What would yall chose for 1440p a gtx titan xp 12gb or 2070 super 8gb?

wise bear
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def not a titan x pascal

shell void
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pascal has no access to dlss and loses driver feature patches starting in october of this year

topaz veldt
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lol im sitting here on 285k and the 5090 Ice fans are turning im like wtf, card is warm/hot, wtf..... im on Discord

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..... with BF 2042 open in the background 🤣

slim pebble
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Oops

edgy laurel
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lmao

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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I recall you did that, yeah

topaz veldt
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100% WAN uptime since

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I dunno why... but there's something borky about the xfinity router

edgy laurel
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I don't doubt it for a minute

topaz veldt
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the modem portion (bridge mode) is fine, and yeah 100% up time now

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it was dropping often prior

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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Makes me want to get one for OCNJ

shell void
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concast

topaz veldt
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but OC is actually the cable network sucking

shell void
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you need to pester verizon about serving you

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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but not all do..

topaz veldt
wise bear
fickle karma
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idk if stuttering whit the b580 is so nomal anyone knows?

edgy laurel
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I'm so weird, I make sure to alt-tab when getting up to walk away and I make sure my GPU usage drops down to idle lol

edgy laurel
wise bear
topaz veldt
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I am going to have to do some wiring in my office

edgy laurel
wise bear
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same

fickle karma
topaz veldt
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The outlet my 285K is on is on the same circuit as my 9950X3D which is not an issue usually, but with iGPU disabled on 285K it uses the 5090 for Minecraft... my son and I both playing up here might get sketchy

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I have a big ol 220v on the other wall for when I was mining, and my mini split is on a separate 220, but they are on opposite walls with bad access

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if I ever sell this house people are going to be confused by this office