tech-chat-2

[turbid locust]

I mean it’s a little heavier than most people give it credit for

bro 1650 was most popular until like a year ago lol

[edgy laurel]

speakin of upscaling. I can't remember where I saw it but somebody asked why their game looked so bad. The settings showed they were on a 1400x900 display with Ultra Performance FSR

[shell void]

a lil 475x297 gaming

[turbid locust]

but like I can see a reality where FSR Ultra Quality could be the difference between 240fps 1% lows and not

for some

[edgy laurel]

Oh, if I hop on W3 tonight its off to Toussaint, in glorious 4K Ultra+ HDR.

[shell void]

and then you try to hit a shot down mid but jett looks like a smeary apparition seen in a bigfoot sighting video

[turbid locust]

Listen if they can half ass add FSR to CS2 then Val can get some upscaling options

I think CS2 uses fuckin FSR 1 or some shit

Looks like shit

[shell void]

at 1440p

[turbid locust]

Like extra shit not normal FSR shit

[shell void]

my val prime was on my 1440p144hz tn with my 1070 and 10900f 🙏

bless up GFT27DB the goat

[turbid locust]

mine was on 1440p144hz IPS with 5600x + 6700XT lol

[shell void]

at least we had enough sense to not be using 1080p

[turbid locust]

I got off 1080p as soon as I had something more powerful than my 1650 Super

My old 24” 1080p 144hz TN display is my bench display now

[pure garnet]

it ran at 1080 60 on my xe igpu

[turbid locust]

anything capable of producing an image should be able to do 1080p 60 lmfao

[pure garnet]

i used to play csgo at like 1204x768 stretched at an unstable 30 on my laptop

had an i3-6100u with 4gb of single channel memory

[shell void]

im not so sure the two rdna2 cores in the am5 ryzen SOC could do it

[turbid locust]

I used to play GTA 5 at 720p 30fps on my laptop iGPU. Ryzen 3500u + 16GB dual channel

[pure garnet]

rich man had ryzen

[turbid locust]

I actually think I tested this and it barely got over 60 lol

[turbid locust]

$300 laptop purchased with saved up birthday and Christmas money lmao

[strange lotus]

hey i want to buy this computer, do you guys think this is worth it or should i look elsewhere? https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-ruby-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-amd-ryzen-7-9700x-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-cr9700x9060xt16gb2/p/N82E16883360850

ive looked around and this is one of the best ones ive found so far that isnt nvidia

[turbid locust]

lmao why are there AM5 prebuilts with 6400MT/s ram

[turbid locust]

price is mid but that’s all prebuilts tbh

[pure garnet]

surely they’re just binning cpus for 1:1 support right

[turbid locust]

for sure for sure

[supple ingot]

i was wondering if anyone could help me pick a cpu to upgrade to

[strange lotus]

if i buy this am i making a mistake is what im asking

[pure garnet]

you’ll probably want to do some tweaks in the bios to the memory

but otherwise it’s certainly a computer

[strange lotus]

why is that?

[pure garnet]

6400 in 1:2 mode is going to be considerably slower than 6000 1:1

[shell void]

which explains why threadripper latency has always seemed so bad

reviewers were running 5600-6400 in 1:2 because threadripper doesnt support 1:1

[devout ridge]

threadripper doesn't support 1:1?

[shell void]

nop

[pure garnet]

i think you need what, 7600? for 2:1 to even make sense

[shell void]

as far as i know consumer ryzen is literally the only ddr5 platform that supports ddr5 in gear 1

you were never intended to run ddr5 in gear 1

[devout ridge]

Even intel runs in 1:2?

[shell void]

yah

[devout ridge]

Is that why Intel has better OC support?

[turbid locust]

7600 on AM5 is only good if your cpu can’t do 6200

[shell void]

no not necessarily

[turbid locust]

Intels been on that Gear 2 train for awhile

[shell void]

always for ddr5 afaik

youre not supposed to run ddr5 in gear 1 xd

[pallid marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WCBPqH you'll be getting a slower PC vs a diy build

[devout ridge]

idk much about memory tbf

[shell void]

it's just a scuffed thing we do on am5 to reduce latency because the infinity fabric chokes bandwidth anyway

[turbid locust]

Gear 2 has been meta for Intel since what? LGA1200?

[devout ridge]

I wonder what the upper reasonable limit is for Threadripper memory OC

Like what frequency can you get with a 9965

[shell void]

it seems to be similar to am5 ryzen on good boards

7600-8600 depending on board/ram/luck

[devout ridge]

I kind of want to see a 9965 at 8600 now

Let me just take out a home mortgage so i can try it

[shell void]

skatterbencher was able to post and test 8400MT/s with 8 channels on his 9975WX

couldnt get it daily stable tho

[devout ridge]

Only 32c tho

[turbid locust]

Oh @shell void @merry stirrup I think we came to the conclusion that the mpower needs resistance/termination tuning for above 7600 to be stable. Auto sucks with two sticks.

I was able to do like 8400 fine on one stick

[shell void]

that's lamesauce

[turbid locust]

I posted 8800 with one stick

[devout ridge]

And only 8 channels of the possible 12

[shell void]

peak memory config rn is only achievable on a xeon 6980p

you can run 12 channels of 8800mt/s on that like it's a walk in the park

[turbid locust]

lol nice

[shell void]

(and cut down forms of the same cpu)

zen 6 epyc and xeon 7 will run 16 channels of these 12800mt/s mrdimms https://www.rambus.com/rambus-unveils-industry-first-complete-chipsets-for-next-generation-ddr5-mrdimms-and-rdimms-to-deliver-breakthrough-performance-for-data-center-and-ai/

[turbid locust]

lolwtf

[shell void]

12800cl52 1.1v nun crazy

[gentle gale]

andromeda insights has better priced ones

[gentle gale]

https://andromedainsights.com/products/ultimate-budget-gaming-pc?variant=46647262871778

[shell void]

are you gonna argue with the board to try to get 7800 or 8000 stable

[turbid locust]

Possibly in the future. For now I’m gonna tune 7600 and enjoy the system.

Waiting on this 14900k to be better than my 7700x tbh

[shell void]

it should already be measurably better than the 7700x in games

[pallid marsh]

Not great prices tbh

[turbid locust]

Well that’s the thing, I didn’t measure

[shell void]

[edgy laurel]

its funny how that works. if you can't notice the difference without side by side numbers...

[shell void]

went from one 2022 cpu to another 2022 cpu tbf

it's gonna be mostly similar aside from having twice the multicore for faster compiling and such

[gentle gale]

for prebuilt it's not bad

[strange lotus]

https://www.newegg.com/stormcraft-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-intel-core-i7-14700f-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-sirius/p/N82E16883420027 how is this pc?

anything to note?

[gentle gale]

5060ti is massively slower than the 9070xt

[strange lotus]

with it being 1:1 is that worth the trade off?

[pure garnet]

no

[strange lotus]

got you

[pure garnet]

you can just punch in 6000c30 timings to that other prebuilt

and it will be fine

[strange lotus]

ok thank you

[edgy laurel]

9070xt / 9600x is a far faster gaming PC than anything with a 5060Ti

[strange lotus]

sounds good, appreciate the help guys

[edgy laurel]

just don't plug it into a 1080p monitor

at that point, doesn't matter what you buy

[dense python]

Hi, brand new here.
Just wondering would anyone know how I could benefit using 2 GPUs of different architectures for gaming/performance/resource management?
I've got old AMD and NVIDIA cards, but I don't quite know if there are too many downsides or anomalies for doing this way.

I can list my PC build and my GPUs if it helps.

[edgy laurel]

Extra monitors

[fervent scaffold]

The game

[edgy laurel]

otherwise, its just a waste of energy

[fervent scaffold]

You just lost

The game

[hollow hull]

if you already have a good GPU like a rx 6800 xt, you could fit a arc a310 for av1 encoding/decoding

but kind of meaningless for gpus newer than rtx 40 or rx 7000

[edgy laurel]

They didn't say what cards they have, or how old they are

or what they main card is

so it all depends, without details

but one good card is usually better

[dense python]

Here is my PC build.

Motherboard
GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE AM5 LGA 1718, ATX, DDR5, 4x M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB4, Wi-Fi 7, 2.5GbE LAN, EZ-Latch

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series (Zen 5) 12-Core 4.4 GHz - Socket AM5 120W - Radeon Graphics Processor

RAM:
Patriot Viper Venom RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000)

Storage:
KingSpec XG 7000 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0x4 NVME 1.4 (7400MB/s Read - 6600MB/s Write)

PSU:
SAMA XP 1000w ATX Power Supply - 80 Plus Platinum Gold - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - Fully Modular - Low Noise Intelligent ECO Silent Fan

GPU
MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor Mk2 8GB DDR5 (Primary)
NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB (Secondary)

Unfortunately, GPU market is still too overpriced, but was promised a free AMD Radeon 7900XT (20GB) GPU whenever my family upgrades their GPU to an NVIDIA architecture, but don't know how long that will take.

I was originally using a GTX 1050 (2GB)... then upgraded to a GTX 1060 (3GB)... then not too long ago I managed to get my hands on the AMD RX 580 (8GB) for about $75. Originally was thinking of using the GTX 1060 for encoding and such for OBS or of the sort, but don't really know how to "properly" set it up.

[hollow hull]

is this an advertisement

[edgy laurel]

its the same person that asked about the multiple GPU's

[dense python]

yeah

[turbid locust]

You just choose the encoder in OBS

[edgy laurel]

weirdly modern system with some old low end GPU's

[turbid locust]

if you’re insistent on running both, you can use the 1060 for NVENC

Wait does pascal have NVENC lmao

[edgy laurel]

1060 has NVENC, yes

[turbid locust]

wooooo

[edgy laurel]

"how to setup OBS + Nvidia NVENC"

should return all the video and written guides you could want

[dense python]

Yeah, there was a sale, so I dropped about $1000.

I normally used my RTX 3070 Razer Laptop as my main, but my desktop was so out of date.
I was originally using:
ASUSTek B150M-A D3 motherboard
Intel i5-5600 CPU
2x8GB DDR3 RAM 1600MB

[pure garnet]

x870 and a 9900x with a 580 and 1060 is a wild combo

[turbid locust]

It’s one of the pc builds of all time

[dense python]

Yeah, pretty much state that this PC is the best in the house, but only the GPU lacks

[shell void]

kinda based config if it's a creator pc

[pure garnet]

like even a 5060 would be dividends of an upgrade

[dense python]

I'm not even a creator... just a gamer

[turbid locust]

personally I just buy a used 3080

[shell void]

not based then

[dense python]

granted I like mods and rendering stuff, so...

[turbid locust]

oh you majorly fucked up then lmao

[dense python]

nah, I know what I'm going for

[pure garnet]

[turbid locust]

[edgy laurel]

Any combination of those cards is a waste of time. Just pick one, but neither are good for anything more than 1080p low in modern games.

[shell void]

oh youtube added 4x speed

[dense python]

My GTX 1060 is 3GB

[pure garnet]

the 580 doesn't have a media engine iirc

[shell void]

man you cant even understand what people are saying at 4x xd

[fervent scaffold]

Anyone here ever try out CarX Street?

[shell void]

i guess you could read subtitles

[pure garnet]

so keeping both of them in there is "somewhat" useful but like

[edgy laurel]

This just keeps getting worse

[dense python]

kekeke

[pure garnet]

sell both, contribute some money at the problem

and bam you got like a used 3080 or sum

[turbid locust]

I’m just trying to figure out the whole “I’m a gamer” + 9900x thing

[edgy laurel]

Use the damn iGPU at this point, rid yourself of those cards lmao

[edgy laurel]

that parts fine, they just need a suitable GPU

[hollow hull]

maybe they got it as a bundle

[edgy laurel]

they said there was a sale. no matter, its perfectly competent.

[turbid locust]

nah 9900x is super questionable value for the money lol

[dense python]

yeah... again, I'll be getting a 7900XT GPU in the future for free (hand down), so... I just needed something to get by until then.

[turbid locust]

ah alr

[pure garnet]

are either of those cards considered get by tier anymore

[shell void]

you could play minecraft on either of them

[dense python]

...although we're probably talking about a year, just depends on how long it takes for them to upgrade.

[shell void]

and roblox and wizard101

[pure garnet]

even a 2070 super which is already firmly 1080p only is 2x the perf

[shell void]

all you need fr

[dense python]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm at least able to play some Elden Ring: Nightreign just fine (just make sure that everything is set to low, otherwise VRAM dies)

[edgy laurel]

which is all one needs lol

[edgy laurel]

called it

[shell void]

for realskies

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d dropped to 70fps doing open world ffxiv content a couple minutes ago

it must be replaced asap, unusable 🥀

[shell void]

brutal

[dense python]

1440p, 144hz (120fps in-game), it's just textures that kills the GPUs...

[shell void]

you need big cache novalake and a z990 apex so fucking bad

[pure garnet]

1440 120 in what

league of legends?

[dense python]

NightReign, Marvel Rivals

[edgy laurel]

If you really wanna get stupid and maybe have a little fun screwing around, there IS this.... https://www.reddit.com/r/losslessscaling/comments/1jtaoau/official_dual_gpu_overview_guide/

[dense python]

Halo MCC, and Halo Infinite

[dense python]

yeah, literally just finished watching that video about this a few minutes ago

[edgy laurel]

$7 entry fee

[pure garnet]

dedicated frame gen gpu to avoid the ebay 3070

[dense python]

But that's what I'm wondering, if it's something possible to have my monitors connected to my GTX 1060 (3GB) for my visuals, but set my games to run using my RX 580 (8GB)...

I just don't know how much of any improvements that would give.

[pure garnet]

that would just hinder since the card has to route display though something else

[edgy laurel]

yeah and thats not what that guide and the dual GPU framegen setup with losslessscaling is trying to accomplish

the second GPU just acts as a headless accelerator

[dense python]

plus, I play Emulators with friends via Parsec/Moonlight, Sunshine, so...

[frosty prism]

i really should test that out

[edgy laurel]

man those guys love pumping up their weird and inconvenient hackjob

When set up properly, a dual GPU LSFG setup can result in nearly the best performance and lowest latency physically possible with frame generation, often beating DLSS and FSR frame generation implementations in those categories. Multiple GPU brands can be mixed.

[dense python]

And just recently, I managed to get a method working where I hooked up my Xbox console to my Desktop PC, have a laptop running Parsec (connect to my PC) and send a PS5 controller that's connected to the laptop to be read on my Xbox.

(using OBS as a screen for the laptop user to see)

[edgy laurel]

Parsec on your LAN?

[dense python]

It's a test for my friend who's in another state. I just had to test to see if it was possible.
Which it does... but haven't tested it yet with them.

[edgy laurel]

I will say, Moonlight/Sunshine to send a stream to another PC and then capturing that stream in OBS is a fun way to dual PC stream

I've set this up myself and the latency is imperceptible

[dense python]

Yeah, using Moonlight/Sunshine for local network is very nice, especially when I need to use another computer in the house to watch videos too.
I use Tailscale/ZeroTier to make that local network with friends to have that "local network".

[fringe vigil]

and what on earth is that keyb

[dense python]

It's just we have to suffer from that physical distance latency of 100ms... if only there was a way to reduce that.

[edgy laurel]

Logitech K750

[dense python]

Just a Logitech K750

I technically have another one below my desk (one of those rolling bed tables).

[fringe vigil]

82 dollars for that

[edgy laurel]

long since out of production

[dense python]

yeah, but they work well.
Especially when I find like 3 more of them at Thrift stores for about $3

As long as you have the dongle though.
I actually like the Unify software... I didn't think I'd like it as much as I do.

[fringe vigil]

rog strix solid keyb

[dense python]

I can't stand the mechanical keyboards though... too loud and clicky.
I do have that Halo Infinite Razer Keyboard, but same issues with those Green switches.
My sibling uses Cherry Red switches, but I want some force, not just butter taps.

[devout ridge]

so get a silent mechanical keyboard...?

you can basically get any kind of mechanical keyboard you can think of

silent, clacky, thocky, linear, tactile, hall effect, etc

[frosty prism]

tbf could just do what beast does

[edgy laurel]

you want tactile, not clicky or linear. but then force is determined by thd switches you get, its all variable (you've opened a can of worms)

[frosty prism]

high end membrane

if that is even a thing

[devout ridge]

You can get a sample set of switches for not that much to figure out what you like the best

Since it's so highly personal

[dense python]

expensive
I've been on a budget. Things I've saved for years that I've dedicated to (like my Desktop upgrades... which is why I can't just get a higher GPU... I've spent all of those funds already).

[devout ridge]

my last silent mechanical keyboard cost less than 100usd

[dense python]

I'm used to spending no more than $25

[devout ridge]

do you have a job?

[devout ridge]

then you're gonna get a really shitty keyboard

[dense python]

at this time, unfortunately no.

[devout ridge]

get a job

[edgy laurel]

ok this doesn't need to turn into life financial coaching, little off topic

[dense python]

I've been trying so hard to
Trying to get into the IT field.

[turbid locust]

unironically oversaturated af rn apparently

[frosty prism]

somehow

[devout ridge]

i mean when budget is their primary limitation it is kind of relevant

[turbid locust]

I was applying to IT shit I was massively overqualified for and wasn’t getting interviews

[edgy laurel]

i think they get that.

[frosty prism]

maybe that is why people are having such a hard time to do the most basic shit

[split pine]

fr fr

[turbid locust]

Thankfully I just got promoted in a field that’s not even remotely related to what I studied 👍

[frosty prism]

IT people just do it instead of just teaching you why and how

[frosty prism]

wait yea you do something with hospitals now or smn i dono

[turbid locust]

yeah lmfao

[devout ridge]

That and the overuse of mobile devices with oversimplified UI

[frosty prism]

im just a student and that is it

[turbid locust]

and I have three quarters of a bachelors degree

three quarters

[frosty prism]

well at least here in Norway most schools use laptops

[hoary hatch]

People who DM on LinkedIn are so weird

[devout ridge]

Most schools in the US use chromebooks

[turbid locust]

75% of a bachelor’s and they were like “fuck it, promote em”

[dense python]

I feel you, in a way. I'm having this issue for just part-time retail positions just to get some funding, but I am overqualified.
However, when it came to IT jobs, I felt as if I had half of Level 1 and Level 2, but not all of it, so I didn't qualify for either.
I've NOW gotten my certs for A+, Net+, Sec+, and going into CyberSecurity soon, but still struggling for some reason.

[turbid locust]

it may also have something to do with the fact I held the best performance metrics the department has ever seen for 10 months straight but I digress

[frosty prism]

OLED in a dark room is so fun

[turbid locust]

Honestly it’s who you know man. If you can get your foot in the door literally anywhere that’s a start.

[devout ridge]

Glad you didn't get stuck in the trap of "too good to promote"

[dense python]

Yup... doesn't help that I've relocated to different states 5 times within the last 3 years

[turbid locust]

Yeah individual growth within a company still exists in 2025??? thought that shit was dead

[devout ridge]

Yeah that makes it look like you won't stay with the company for long from the POV of the company

[turbid locust]

But yeah when I was unemployed for like 2 months I had a harder time getting traction with entry level positions at large corporations than I did with mid level stuff and more niche places

[hoary hatch]

Air Force?

[frosty prism]

my plan going forward as its been for way too long is to start making projects and publishing em on the interwebs to try and build up my skills and just try to find any place that might want my skills that they can actually see

i got a year to do this shit again while im getting most of my rent from the state

[turbid locust]

Like literal grocery stores wouldn’t call me back

[frosty prism]

too bad

[turbid locust]

Sales Marketing and promotion at a beverage company? hired.

Job market is fuckin stupid

[hoary hatch]

My company has 0 positions open in the US right now

[turbid locust]

Then I got my job at the hospital that I didn’t entirely hate and I was just gonna ride it out until I was able to finish my degree but… opportunities arose and I capitalized on it and… we ball now??

Still plan to finish my degree but like lol

[dense python]

Father's retired Marine (I'm just the "Former" Military Brat)
We were moving due to selling our home and finding a place to live with job opportunities and better living conditions (Colorado was too high altitude).

[turbid locust]

I found out the other day our parent company is worth like 60B lmfao

[dense python]

Buuuut... as a last saying, I won't be able to upgrade my GPU for the time being (until I find employment), so I need to make due to what I have now with the RX 580 (8GB) and the GTX 1060 (3GB).
Just wanted to know if I were to re-install the GTX 1060 back into my PC, how could I benefit from it (despite it being that old)?
I am already aware of utilizing certain software to change the encoding and preferred GPU, but if I were to create a scenario:

• I have my two monitors (see images above)... should I connect both into one GPU or split them?
• I know in Windows Graphics Settings, I can change my preferred GPU to my RX 580, but what if I were to just have my monitor connected to my GTX 1060 GPU while running the RX 580 for my games (sorry for repeat)?
• What would happen if I were to watch a Youtube video on one monitor and play a game on the other? How could I set that up without the GPU dying due to lack of VRAM?

[pure grail]

you do nothing because that is almost a non issue and just use the 1 better gpu

[dense python]

gotcha

[hoary hatch]

Our stock is worth like 12 trillion yen

I think that's about 2 thousand dollars

[topaz veldt]

lol

that made me laugh

[hoary hatch]

When I was in Japan it was cheaper each day for me to take out 10k yen

Started the week paying 71-72 and ended paying 68-69

Or something like that

[dense python]

me, trying to get back to Japan

[hoary hatch]

I'd love to go back and not spend my entire time in a factory

Actually I'd happily go again for work

But I want a personal trip at some point

[turbid locust]

I would like to visit Japan someday but like I wanna know a local and get into that underground street racing shit

[dense python]

well... I couldn't say how the work conditions are (besides torturous)
but I have family there, so...

[merry stirrup]

sooo we fafoing

[turbid locust]

yeah basically

I posted 8800 with one stick

[hoary hatch]

I went for a week of training

[merry stirrup]

yeah

so whats the meta way to do that across 2 people

you take one half of combos and i take the other or like

well ig woodrist

[turbid locust]

yeah idk

Per dimm terminations about to go brazy

[dense python]

Last question I'll ask for today before I have to dip, and unrelated to "tech-chat", but as we were talking about "employment"...
what would be the best way for me to find some sort of entry-level IT position when I'm extremely limited in transportation (because they always want someone driving place to place, when I want stationary)? Any tips would help.

[topaz veldt]

god damned you half-japanese girls

[dense python]

training via Air Force?

[turbid locust]

Basically anything remote/work from home I suppose

I didn’t read sorry

[topaz veldt]

or just secretly live in the basement of the place you get the job at

[turbid locust]

[dense python]

well, I get that, but it's usually the terminology,
Sounds so easy, but why it feels so hard ||don't take that out of context||

[hoary hatch]

Noooo
Semiconductor manufacturing

[fringe holly]

is rx9070xt good for streaming ?

[dense python]

Aaaaahh... I see

[hoary hatch]

The only air force I'm familiar with is Nike Air Force ones (not really I wear shoes from Costco)

[pure grail]

basically any gpu in the last like 8 years

[hoary hatch]

It should be fine

[frosty prism]

that one 20% better for twitch

[dense python]

Nontheless, all good.
I just recently got my A+ and Net+ certs, so I just hope I can land a stepping stone soon.

If I got any more weird tech discussions, I'll drop by again... probably how to get my Kinect working as a poor-man's mo-cap

[pure grail]

amd has worse encoders but i dont think most people have viewers that will watch in 4k then pause the stream and put their eyes 2 inches from their screens to pixel peep

[turbid locust]

Well like no offense but A+ basically means you know what a computer is

[frosty prism]

why do you think i said that 😐

[hoary hatch]

EposVox on YouTube may have a streaming-centric review of it

[turbid locust]

Net+ is nice tho

[frosty prism]

the h264 encoder on it is about 20% better then last gen

[dense python]

I've got A+, Net+, Sec+...
what's funny is that I got Sec+ first (3 years ago), then just got my A+ and Net+ last month

[turbid locust]

lol I wouldn’t have even bothered with A+ atp

[dense python]

eh... I thought so too, but I wasn't getting any jobs within 2 years, so...

plus, I've got my state workforce services that are helping with the funding, so... I took advantage.

[frosty prism]

aint some of those like, what port does DP go into

[heavy spire]

Iirc its much better than previous AMD gens. Still not as good as Nvenc, but its good enough for it to not matter for casual streaming.

[frosty prism]

you should apply for nasa if you can tell the difference between a 9070 and i dono 5070 when streaming in terms of raw quality

[heavy spire]

Yeah, need to do pixel-peeping to tell a difference between em these days

[frosty prism]

before yeeeaaa nooo amd did not do great

it was still more then usable but nothing to write home about

[turbid locust]

I think I’m gonna subject myself to some counterstrike today

Haven’t played in awhile and I’m feelin freaky

[edgy laurel]

i'm doing this with BF2042 right now

feeling a BF kick

[frosty prism]

i bought it but then secure boot and i could not be bothered

[turbid locust]

last time I played 2042 I got smacked by some movement gods

[frank cypress]

I heard there's a new battlefield soon?

[fervent elm]

Bf6 got announced

[south shuttle]

i’ll stick to bf1 thanks

[hoary hatch]

Is it possible to be allergic to chicken

That's like saying you're allergic to water

[south shuttle]

not impossible

[south shuttle]

yes that exists

there are people who cannot drink water

[turbid locust]

FanControl takes a weirdly long amount of time to kick in on boot on this platform

[south shuttle]

not because their body cannot digest it but well, if your body gives a histamine ->immune response before digestion it kinda is but whatever

[hoary hatch]

Update
They claim to be allergic to chicken but are okay with chicken "being on half the lasagna, they'll just eat the other half"

Like the whole thing will be chicken contaminated

[turbid locust]

I havent queued in like a year how long do we thinks for it to pop

[south shuttle]

so the part he eats does not have chicken like pieces?

[hollow hull]

chicken allergy is very rare

[heavy spire]

Might just be digestion related issues

[hollow hull]

allergy to raw/undercooked eggs is uncommon though

[south shuttle]

does he have on paper that he actually has the allegry/body response?

[turbid locust]

ffs

[hoary hatch]

I think they just didn't want to say "I don't like chicken"?

[south shuttle]

alr

[hoary hatch]

I guess this would cover can't eat chicken but okay with chicken contamination 🤔

[vivid osprey]

Guys is ryzen 5 3600 good for rx 570 8GB?

[devout ridge]

both are near e-waste

[south shuttle]

price?

[vivid osprey]

60$ i think new (249pln)

[south shuttle]

for both?

[vivid osprey]

I have alr gpu

[buoyant ether]

noooo what theyre totally decent for like 1080p gaming

[devout ridge]

1080p60 low mayhaps

[south shuttle]

oh so 60 for a 3600 is a joke deal

[hollow hull]

maybe they recently watched a video with chicks

[edgy laurel]

6 years ago

[buoyant ether]

theyre that old??

[heavy spire]

I guess it would be intolerance instead of allergy in that case now that I think about it

[vivid osprey]

67.6$

[south shuttle]

even wirse

[buoyant ether]

i mean tbh i cant rlly be talking, i get like 200fps in most games at medium and use 75hz monitors ☠️

[hollow hull]

interesting, $67 is enough to buy a RX 580 and still have some money left over

[vivid osprey]

Ryzen 5 5600 is 117.3$

[devout ridge]

ryzen 5 3600 is 6 years old, rx 570 is 8 years old

[edgy laurel]

Yes. The GPU 8 years old, the CPU is 6.

[vivid osprey]

I alr have i5-9400F and i have 100% cpu and 95% gpu in cs2

[south shuttle]

for $70 buy like 5600 or used 5600x/5700x/5800x or x3d if lucky

[vivid osprey]

Wait how much is b550 mb in your country

[buoyant ether]

okay im just old atp, mentally the 5xx0 amd series is still the latest to me

[south shuttle]

as for gpu $70 gets you a 2060/s or a 1070/ti

[edgy laurel]

been replaced twice over now

[south shuttle]

rx 5600xt/5700

[vivid osprey]

I find the used rx5500 xt 8GB for 125$~

[south shuttle]

really bad price

[buoyant ether]

oof.. i could get it for that price in like 2020

[vivid osprey]

The rx 580 is like 90$

[hollow hull]

$125, you can get a rx 6600 for a little over that price

[vivid osprey]

On poland you can get new rx 6600 for 200$~

[devout ridge]

what country are you in?

[vivid osprey]

Poland

Where you guys find this stuff soo cheap

[hollow hull]

urban US market

[fervent elm]

You can get a 2060 for about 140 on ebay
Or a 6600

[devout ridge]

You can get a 5600xt for like 450PLN (121USD)

[vivid osprey]

New?

[south shuttle]

ebay, my specific region markets (without buyer protection, most of them are legit tho, but always be cautious)

[devout ridge]

Used...

You should be looking at used hardware for your budget

[hollow hull]

I'm planning on selling my rx 6600 for like $90 this year, local pickup only of course

[vivid osprey]

Oh still deal

[buoyant ether]

fr, here in the uk and in my home country (russia) everything is so expensive

im yet to find a single good deal on any tech tbh

[devout ridge]

You can get a 6600xt for 670PLN (181USD)

Looking on Olx.pl since that's the first site that popped up for "polish used electronics"

[fervent elm]

6600 on Poland ebay for 555 pln
https://www.ebay.pl/itm/197572460723

[vivid osprey]

Yea its prety popular

[vivid osprey]

20$ for shipping is a crime

[fervent elm]

Could probably go get it
Its in Germany

[buoyant ether]

Try looking on sites such as olx

[devout ridge]

6600xt for 66eur/280PLN/76USD
https://www.ebay.pl/itm/406080801781?

[fervent elm]

Broken probably

[devout ridge]

ah it is, google translate failed me

[buoyant ether]

yeah no.. its defective or broken

[devout ridge]

Wow the polish market is bad

[buoyant ether]

sorry about the russian but i dont want to put my laptop in english cuz my english is terrible

[devout ridge]

dw i still understand "Defekt!"

[buoyant ether]

i think on other websites such as olx and facebook marketplace the market is rlly good

[vivid osprey]

I think i will first upgrade cpu bcs im limited by cpu rn ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 56$ new and ryzen 5 3600 new x-kom 67$ / allegro 63$

[south shuttle]

ypu have b450m hdv? yeah keep it

for some ryzen 5 it’s ok

[split pine]

^

[south shuttle]

buy a 5600/x not 3600

[vivid osprey]

I have msi b360M pro-vh and if i event wanted to upgrade to like i9-9900K vrm section will throtle

I have:
CPU: I5-9400F
CPU Coller: Be Quiet Pure Rock 1
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400 MT/S CL20
MotherBoard: MSI B360M Pro-VH
GPU: RX 570 8GB Sapphire Pulse Dual Fan
Disk 1: 128GB M.2 Sata (Intel)
Disk 2: 960GB Sata (Msi Spatium S270)
PSU: SilentiumPC 500W Vero L1
Case: Natec Bolia

Disk 1 with windows free space 58%
Disk 2 free space 92%

[buoyant ether]

personally im cooked if i want to upgrade my pc at all, in 2021 i switched from a custom build pc with like 7th gen intel to some predator prebuilt and if i want to even upgrade my case it'll cost me about 50k rubles (619,18 usd)

[vivid osprey]

I get like 55$ pocket money monthly bcs im not poor but nor rich

[buoyant ether]

tbh unless ur doing any overclocking i think itll be fine

[vivid osprey]

Im doing oc only with gpu

[south shuttle]

sus psu

[buoyant ether]

💣

[vivid osprey]

Well know psu brand in poland

[south shuttle]

spc/endorfy? yeah shit

i had their cases, fans, coolers

[vivid osprey]

Endorfy is kinda good

[south shuttle]

it’s borderline horrible

they can’t even get paint on monitor stands to not peel off or crumble

[vivid osprey]

I have this psu and its not loud its most likely quiet unless pc doing over 300W/500W

[south shuttle]

threads that last one unscrewing

plastic their use on budget fans does not like heat and it degenerates fast

that cheap

[edgy laurel]

We've arrived.

[vivid osprey]

I never had issiues and yes that are for budget pcs

[turbid locust]

dropping to 150fps in CS smokes lmao cool

[vivid osprey]

Bro you saying 150fps is bad on smoke hear me out

[buoyant ether]

lwk wish i could have my games look like that, my bottleneck is my stupid monitors cuz i cant afford better ones

[vivid osprey]

I have drops to 30fps bcs of new animations throtle my cpu by ussage 100% cpu and gpu

[south shuttle]

it’s a cheap platform for sure

[turbid locust]

new animations just look weird

[south shuttle]

E tier at best

or avoid

[vivid osprey]

I paid for my pc 850PLN (229$)

[frank cypress]

ur better off saving for a new gpu

[edgy laurel]

It’s pretty nice.

[vivid osprey]

With cpu gpu psu disk 1 disk 2 coller case motherboard

[south shuttle]

alr, endorfy is shit please don’t be loyal to the brand

[frank cypress]

god I want an oled display

[vivid osprey]

Im not

[buoyant ether]

this is my pc(s) if anyones curious, i didnt rlly wanna copy and paste it from telegram cuz it messes up formatting but the main pc is based off a predator po3-630 and has a 360mm aio hanging out the side 💀

[south shuttle]

they have couple ok psus but they’re expensive and not that awesome

few decent fans but nothing too exciting

[buoyant ether]

damnn, this is kinda what i would want my setup to look like at some point

[frank cypress]

wait, Witcher 3?

[edgy laurel]

gahhh i'm never going to finish this expansion, i'll be taking screenshots the whole time.

[devout ridge]

@topaz veldt Is it normal for a r630 to scan through each boot option in order instead of picking the USB bootable media immediately?

[south shuttle]

their cases are okay for $30, no more

[edgy laurel]

yes

[frank cypress]

damn it holds up well

[vivid osprey]

My cs2 have lag issiues bcs of my 100% gpu or my 100% cpu?

[buoyant ether]

hold up this reminds me of a photo i took in like feb lol

[south shuttle]

and heatsink… that gets rarely messed up so i don’t see issue there, spc coolers don’t have history of weird defects

[edgy laurel]

It got a big "Next Gen" update a few years back. I've also got an HD texture overhaul mod + RT

[frank cypress]

ahhhhh

[south shuttle]

does hwinfo for example say 100% usage for both?

[vivid osprey]

Yes

[south shuttle]

9900k and 580 8gb are solid for cs2 so could be something else, are you running highest settings?

[vestal granite]

now wheres next gen graphics update for real life

[vivid osprey]

I have i5-9400F i said if i had i9-9900K

[south shuttle]

oh

[vestal granite]

can apple vision pros boost the saturation of stuff

[buoyant ether]

Nevermind, said photo was literally of a snowy mountain in the Norwegian winter

[south shuttle]

even 8700k or 8068k would be decent upgrade but probs nt worth it

[vivid osprey]

And rx 570 8GB

[buoyant ether]

wouldnt it be worth buying one of those ebay motherboard and cpu bundles

[south shuttle]

i would upgrade the whole system tbh

[vestal granite]

yeah that photo of a mountain in beautiful blue-green waters and trees and disney castle reminds me of this street

[vivid osprey]

I want to do that like upgrade cpu first next gpu yk?

[south shuttle]

i would do it at once

[vivid osprey]

Why is the sidewalk so small?

[vestal granite]

america

[buoyant ether]

lemme send my one, its on my old s22 ultra so it might take me a while to connect to my new wifi

[vivid osprey]

I don't have enough money for this

[vestal granite]

we dont do big sidewalks in america is all

new york does atleast

[south shuttle]

can you upgrade later? or not possible

well, if not possible then get a new mb and cpu

[pure garnet]

buying a 9900k is a bad idea in 2025

[buoyant ether]

this is the photo i thought it was like lol, completely different

[pure garnet]

intel halo chips retain value like crazy

you'd be better off saving up for used am4 or lga1700 stuff

[buoyant ether]

if it comes with the box then thats peak

[vestal granite]

thats cool wheres that

[pure garnet]

peak bad idea yeah

[vivid osprey]

Well i get first 3600 and upgrade next to ryzen 7 5700

[pure garnet]

that is also a bad idea

[south shuttle]

no don’t get 3600

[pure garnet]

just wait till you can get the 5700x and board

[buoyant ether]

i think trosmo norway, honestly not sure cuz ive been to like so many countries for work this year already

[vivid osprey]

So what 4500?

[frosty prism]

Like I said in tc1 Intel chips somehow hold their value

[pure garnet]

it's only the halo ones that do really

like nobody wants a 6500 in the big 25

but the 6700k has some retro appeal

[frosty prism]

Stinky country

[fathom gust]

Guy whats to do if new laptop is not giving correct or average cinebench scores in multicore for the specs

[frosty prism]

Almost like it does not support windows 11 and is only 4 cores

Officially

[vivid osprey]

Reinstall windows

[buoyant ether]

norway?

[frosty prism]

Cry also it's normal

[pure garnet]

okay so use 8500 and 8700k then

[devout ridge]

accept that you have a laptop and performance varies wildly even for “the same” specs

[pure garnet]

it's the same thing just an example

[frosty prism]

Very

[fathom gust]

Hp omen giving 15.9k should give 24l

[devout ridge]

“the same specs” can have wildly different performance based on the power budget and thermal solution

[vestal granite]

thats cool here in the US we dont go to other countries cause theyre so far so we only really go to canada or mexico u know but sometimes we do go to europe but usually not for business only vacations unless very big company with multiple continents offices or nature of the business requires it u know

[frosty prism]

Replace thermal paste with ptm

[vivid osprey]

Install the drivers ig

[fathom gust]

I bought it yesterday man

[turbid locust]

Update: CS2 still feels like shit and is a chore to play lmfao

[frosty prism]

Ffs

[vestal granite]

yeah they changed the viewmodels and its yucky

[turbid locust]

Wish they would just re-release CSGO

[frosty prism]

What performance profile is it set to

[vestal granite]

the animations feel like im playing fucking roblox bro

[pure garnet]

laptops are going to be just thermal throttling in multicore loads

[fathom gust]

Yeah I started that right out of the box

[frosty prism]

Light mode

[buoyant ether]

the us is very very nice tho, ive been to about 5 different states i think (so doing good for 20 years old) but its not really that nice here in europe tbh

[pure garnet]

unless the games are performing bad just like

don't worry about it

[vivid osprey]

Install drivers duh?

[gentle gale]

omen max needs repaste

[turbid locust]

No i mean issues that have been a problem since beta and is seemingly unfixable. The engine and netcode is just bad

[fathom gust]

Will do

[vivid osprey]

Yes will do

[fathom gust]

Eeven tho its new wtf

😭😭did I do a mistake buying a junk so expensive

[gentle gale]

yes stock paste is apparently not good, otherwise it's a solid machine

[pure garnet]

they made it worse recently too, if you send too many inputs per tick they just drop all of them until the next tick

[vivid osprey]

Just install drivers

[turbid locust]

lmao awesome

[vivid osprey]

Bruh

[buoyant ether]

ive seen that so much recently but is it actually worth upgrading from arctic mx6 to it?

[fathom gust]

I dont know anything about windows and laptop so I will learn how to put in perfomance mode

[pure garnet]

what does installing drivers have to do with making a laptop not thermal throttle

tiktok comment section invasion

[turbid locust]

Literally all they had to do was give us graphically updated CSGO and 128 tick servers and it wouldve been peak

[south shuttle]

thats even worse

[vivid osprey]

Did you instaled gpu drivers

[vestal granite]

it always depends on the part of the US you're in of course, our states vary wildly. im guessing a european tourist wouldnt go to, for example, Mississippi. but it unfortunately exists.

[frosty prism]

Only on laptops and direct die like GPU is it even worth considering tbh

[fathom gust]

Expected scores are blue ones

[frosty prism]

O yes it's you

[pure garnet]

no man i run everything through the windows basic display adapter

like obviously i have a driver installed

[vestal granite]

that is to say mississippi in its current state? hooowee we have failed that state

[frosty prism]

I ask again, what performance profile was it set to

[gentle gale]

oh not omen max
make sure it's set to turbo profile

[fathom gust]

370 fps in valo max settings

[vivid osprey]

Ik but i need new platform bcs i wont upgrade to intel again they change socket like socks

[gentle gale]

888 mc is quite funny, lower than m4 mba

[fathom gust]

I dont know

[south shuttle]

get a 5600/x

[frosty prism]

What

[vivid osprey]

Bro 65$ vs 120$

[frosty prism]

The people you are comparing scores too are ofc using it so why are you not

[south shuttle]

9400f to 3600 no don’t

[vestal granite]

but the major cities in the US? usually very nice places and its unique from the vibe of european cities. some are fucking boring with 10 miles between stuff because of large parking lots and plazas, but northeast US is older construction, more dense and easier to travel around

[south shuttle]

upgrade once you have money

[gentle gale]

check in omen gaming hub

[pure garnet]

you are on lga 1551-2 several years past its relevant support date, what does an early socket change possibly mean to you

[vivid osprey]

Still an upgrade

[buoyant ether]

ive been to nyc, boston, la, dallas and somewhere in florida
idk if thats like the places where everyone goes or smth but i work for the royal bank of canada and they make me go everywhere

[pure garnet]

am5 has one more revision before its expected to be over as well

[south shuttle]

waste of $30

[vivid osprey]

1151

[pure garnet]

boohoo i made a typo

the point still stands

[frosty prism]

1151 v2

[pure garnet]

thank you for the second typo correction

it definitely changed the intent of the message

[frosty prism]

1151-v3

Anyhow Intel is sad

[fathom gust]

Ah han and like what other stuff to try and test if its works fine?

[pure garnet]

and it also was never v2 if you wanna be a smart ass, it was 1151-2 or 1151 rev 2

[vestal granite]

the further west and the further south you go in the US, the newer the cities typically are. NYC & Boston are older cities, i like that kind with the brownstone buildings & brick construction and such. LA is a much newer city, its population is mostly recent decades so its very sprawled and its like 20 frickin miles wide. Dallas im not super certain on but i'm assuming its "new-ish", maybe around 1850s is when it started to really pick up - not an original colony so it doesnt have that english influence on the construction, im guessing the oldest buildings are churches (and definitely very sprawled)

[fathom gust]

Valo fps for 4060 and i7 14650HX are 370ish

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel I finally finished Jedi survivor

[frosty prism]

SET IT TO THE SAME PERFORMANCE PROFILE THE OTHER PEOPLE YOU ARE COMPARING IT TOO IS USING.
That is all I want to say as this is such a pain in the ass when people start doing this shit

[frosty prism]

Kill me

[frosty prism]

End my suffering

[vivid osprey]

Okay give me adress

[fathom gust]

I will try that too thanks

[edgy laurel]

Nice. I have a feeling I never quite did. like 98%

[frosty prism]

The program should be like omen command center or some shit

[buoyant ether]

tbh i want to move to the usa so bad but one minor thing that throws me off is the prices of carriers and samsung doesnt allow bootloader unlocking in the usa which is quite major for me especially since im a samsung rom dev

[fathom gust]

Alright

[topaz veldt]

You would know

[frosty prism]

What

I really do not see a lot of people wanting to move into the US right now

[vestal granite]

we do have very minor inconveniences scattered around that europeans will run into (we dont have milk dispensers at our bodegas)

[buoyant ether]

i mean i would want to more because of like the country itself, my honest thoughts are f*ck politics

[buoyant ether]

milk dispensers????

[frosty prism]

Well when they get ya shot I dono

[vestal granite]

yeah i heard that some places got milk dispensers in their bodega u like buy glass bottle of milk and u can refill it for cheaper price if u keep the bottle

i think germany

it seems like something germany would have

[frosty prism]

296

[frail wyvern]

The US might be better than the shithole I live in but hell naw I don't wanna live there

[buoyant ether]

ah in places like germany and france, in the uk its just a rainy and crap usa
russia has some kind of stuff like that but its from the soviet era

[turbid locust]

i forgor

[buoyant ether]

also rate the amazing gaming rig 🥶

[vestal granite]

is windows 11 set up for rounded corners on the display

[frail wyvern]

Ugreen cable/10

[buoyant ether]

(old photo cuz i got rid of windows on that phone a while ago since i used it only to show off and occasionally play cs2 on it)

[vestal granite]

see this but this ones in new zealand so maybe im thinking of new zealand not germany

[buoyant ether]

nah this is like native windows 11 on the phone, its like barely even got drivers

[gentle gale]

the surface devices have rounded corners so maybe idk

[frail wyvern]

Bro made windows phone 2.0

[buoyant ether]

i love ugreen so much, literally the best cable company

[vestal granite]

i just use pinecil power cables for everything

silicone; very cool

[buoyant ether]

it lwk needs more recognition, i hope someday lmg makes a vid on it of some sort

[buoyant ether]

ive been fully ugreen since 2020 i think now, literally this usb c cable im using rn ive had since 2019 and its perfectly fine

[frail wyvern]

I was thinking about getting one of their chargers but never really got around to it, spent the moneys on other stuff

[frosty prism]

My phone just came with a 125w so I'm good

[frail wyvern]

Not gonna buy it anytime soon cuz I need a mouse

[frosty prism]

I think the cable should be able to take some heat

[buoyant ether]

oh i only have ugreen cables and dongles, the charging bricks are a variety from samsung 25w bricks to 65w anker nano bricks

[vestal granite]

i use random 65W charger off amazon

GaN

[buoyant ether]

this is the kind of phone i want tbh, ive been samsung for like forever tho because of my love for oneui but since they're discontinuing oem unlocking in oneui 8 i think im gonna switch to a oneplus 13

[vestal granite]

i use pixel i like pixel i love google thank you google for being a friend 🙂

[frail wyvern]

I have a 9 pro xl :D

But google ain't a friend

No 1b+ corpo is

[vestal granite]

i have a pixel 6a and i have no need to upgrade until android versions stop being supported on it which is taking a long time

[buoyant ether]

pixels are a w but aosp based skins are a bit mehh for me, i prefer coloros and oneui if possible with phones

although my z fold 7 was probably the worst investment ive ever made

[vestal granite]

hey

we arent phone nerds here we're computer nerds here what the hell does any of that mean

what is aosp

[hollow hull]

pixels are great, you can use it as a webcam too if you connect it to your pc with usb

[shell void]

dayum what's wrong with your fold 7?

[frail wyvern]

I hate OneUI with a passion, my last smasnug phone was an s8+ and it sucked ASS

[vestal granite]

pixel UI i have to say is absolutely splendid

[buoyant ether]

Android Open Source Project
what pixel based android skins are and it can be built off a script

[vestal granite]

thats cool those are words i like

[edgy laurel]

just started this now

[buoyant ether]

oneui 7 is honestly amazing, i remember porting it to the s22 when the first beta came out for the s24 in november 2024 and i was so impressed

[frail wyvern]

It is. Tho I use Niagara launcher on mine

[vestal granite]

i dont like things i want as few things as possible it makes me anxious to have launchers and such

[frail wyvern]

Imo it still looks like ass, at least the icons do but that's avoidable by installing a launcher

[vestal granite]

i like that i can screenshot stuff and then click pencil and then insta edit it and then im done u know like thats so streamlined u know i get a little bubble thing

[buoyant ether]

£2000 for no s-pen support and no bootloader unlocking
its basically a foldable iphone

[frail wyvern]

Also this. Samsung are building an eco system, I friggin hate ecosystems

[buoyant ether]

i personally hate custom launchers, sue me but its like the smooth animations would be gone

[vestal granite]

also live caption thing i like the live caption thing

[frail wyvern]

Not on Niagara lul

[vestal granite]

niagara falls isnt as tall asi thought it was i saw a photo of it recently

[frail wyvern]

You can drag the widget up, thus making room for a bigger list

[vestal granite]

no the waterfall

[frail wyvern]

My home screen

[frail wyvern]

Oh I'm stupid

[buoyant ether]

it kinda reminds me of the new windows 25h2 start menu

[vestal granite]

other peoples screenshots of windows always look better than mine

[frail wyvern]

They actually make each individual themed icon

[buoyant ether]

haha i just have like 3 tweaks to make it look nice cuz i use this laptop at university and idk a ugly layout makes me not motivated

[vestal granite]

see its not that tall

like its a big waterfall but its not a tall waterfall i always thought it was way taller

[frail wyvern]

I use one hell of a wallpaper on my desktop

With wallpaper engine

[devout ridge]

i hate the dell r630 so much, why is it such a pain to boot from a USB

[buoyant ether]

i cant afford it

[devout ridge]

finally got it working, but i'm unhappy

[frail wyvern]

... It's 5 dollars

[buoyant ether]

i have no money after buying all of samsungs 2025 foldables

[devout ridge]

work a job for 30 minutes

[frail wyvern]

Lol, trying to boot from USB on dell laptops is a pain

[frail wyvern]

But why tho

[devout ridge]

dell server

[buoyant ether]

get paid on the 12th of august but also im the cheapest person on earth

[frail wyvern]

Dell-anythings

[buoyant ether]

so i could get imeis to dump their firmware

[devout ridge]

SHE LIVES!

my proxmox install worked!

[buoyant ether]

Then i realised that samsung hasnt actually put the eu version of it on their servers yet, so i cant pull it

[buoyant ether]

i LOVE proxmox although ive never had an excuse to use it 😭

[frail wyvern]

Tf is proxmox lol

[buoyant ether]

linux distro for servers specialising in vms

[frail wyvern]

Ooo

[buoyant ether]

kinda like truenas scale i think (dont kill me if im wrong)

[devout ridge]

very wrong

[frail wyvern]

🔫

[devout ridge]

i love truenas, i hate proxmox with the fury of a thousand suns

[buoyant ether]

yeah ive never actually used either despite working in IT
my company is lwk kinda boring all the servers are hosted in datacenters and we have a 10 gig link between the office and datacenter

[edgy laurel]

Proxmox and TrueNAS are not two flavors of the same thing at all. PVE can function as a Type 1 hypervisor but TrueNAS (scale) is just a full fat NAS operating system. Two very different things.

[frail wyvern]

I see them both as "fancy server stuff for people with more IQ than me"

[devout ridge]

i got proxmox installed so i never have to deal with IDRAC again

IPMI>IDRAC

(I shouldn't have to pay a subscription to use a 10 year old machine's core features)

i wonder if i could install a proxmox VM on proxmox

[buoyant ether]

fr, i just use windows 10 on my server

[fervent scaffold]

Use i5 14600k and 5070ti to play PC Building simulator

Gonna upgrade to a i9 14900k and 5090 for an even better PC Building Simulator experience

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure how this applies

@devout ridge you don't ahve to pay a subscription for iDRAC

[topaz veldt]

yeah - you set boot priority

[devout ridge]

I was under the impression certain features were locked behind a key

[queen orbit]

Not all of Dell's servers are sold with a license for iDrac, you wind up with one that doesn't have the license and it's just not going to work, hardware might be there but some things may just not be turned on.

[devout ridge]

Ik that you can get one time keys, idk why i said "subscription"

[topaz veldt]

there is just idrac enterprise vs idrac express or whatever, but its a one time thing

[topaz veldt]

I am very aware. But there are ways.

i mean at the very least you can just send $12 to a dude on ebay

[devout ridge]

I ended up having to set it to UEFI for some reason

[queen orbit]

For sure, ways that might get someone looking at you crosseyed here.

[topaz veldt]

no, you can buy licenses on ebay

[queen orbit]

I've seen those but luckily haven't had a need to test if they work.

[devout ridge]

For now i'm using a 30 day trial license

i'll probably buy a cheap license off ebay if i need it later

now i need to figure out why proxmox wont see my sas drives

[queen orbit]

They don't show in the drives list at all? What type of storage controller are they attached to?

[topaz veldt]

are you using an hba or raid controller

[devout ridge]

Motherboard connector to a backplane

[turbid locust]

@shell void ok i see the 14900k buff now

[topaz veldt]

thats not how this works - we need to know what controller

[devout ridge]

How do I find that?

[queen orbit]

What type of server is it? It's obviosuly a dell but what model? (i'm actually too lazy to scroll back and look to see if you mentioned it)

[topaz veldt]

idrac 🙂

Its an R630, which can have like any one of 7 controllers

[devout ridge]

Where within IDRAC?

[queen orbit]

@topaz veldt is right, you should be able to see it in IDRAC, or in the lifecycle controller.

[topaz veldt]

inventory/storage, something

[devout ridge]

this is all i see under controllers

[topaz veldt]

is the server up

[devout ridge]

System is powered on, it's booted into proxmox

[topaz veldt]

it may not have a controller at all

[queen orbit]

Are the drives showing in iDrac?

[topaz veldt]

you can pull the lid off, the fans will scream

[devout ridge]

"physical disks" shows this

despite the fact i know the 240gb ssd is working and recognized since that's what i'm booted into

[devout ridge]

I will, one sec

[queen orbit]

Is that drive tied to the backplane or is it in a internal bay or a iBoss card?

[devout ridge]

Front bay, so i believe the same backplane

[topaz veldt]

all the front bays are part of the backplane

[devout ridge]

The SAS drives show flashing activity lights if that means anything, opposed to the SATA drive's solid light

[topaz veldt]

oh lol

so fun fact......

you can't mix sas and sata on the same backplane

[queen orbit]

I have some R640's, on those if you go into Configuration --> BIOS Settings that has sope options that might let you toggle the mode of the controller.

[devout ridge]

i thought it was a SAS only backplane

other than the two sata ports on the left

[warm kayak]

So I’m looking to build a NAS to hold files videos, photos, and other stuff for school and my family I’m considering building a nas using my old parts (I think ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2060 32 gb of ram) but unfortunately the motherboard is a micro, ITX and a case is a micro ITX small form factor so I would have to buy a new case to hold the drive bays my utter option for custom route is to build the nas using a Mac mini M4 so if for any reason, I don’t like using the Nas I can use it as a computer for my mum my other option that I went to Micro Center today to look at is to get the ugreen duo bay nas i’m looking at the prices right now if I go to custom route with the old PC parts it’s around 200 if I get used parts off of eBay, but if the case is slightly bigger, I might have to get a full size ATX power supply so that’s just at a cost

So give or take if I go custom PC using my old parts it’s around $250 without any of the dives

Mac mini probably 680 with the 3d printed enclosure

And you ugreen is around $500 with the drives

Going to post this on both channels

[devout ridge]

welp

[topaz veldt]

its SAS/SATA

people say you can mix on the backplane but i have never had luck, and don't

[devout ridge]

So if i install sata drives it would most likely just work

[topaz veldt]

maybe*

[queen orbit]

I've been able to do this on a R640 without issue, but I don't know about the R630's

[topaz veldt]

yeah i don't even mess with it

[queen orbit]

We wound up swapping out the drives with SAS for performance reasons in the end.

[devout ridge]

i'll get some sata drives to test with then, thank you!

[topaz veldt]

I use flash

I have R740s

[queen orbit]

Yea, these servers are all flash, but given the price difference between SATA and SAS ssd's it was worth trying to see if we could get away with it. Spolier alert, we didn't

[topaz veldt]

and a supermicro 36 bay

sas and sata SSDs perform the same so long as they're the same tier, for instance I am using samsung sm863 enterprise 3.84TB's

they're sata but high write endurance, etc.

consumer grade sata ssds don't do well

[queen orbit]

Yep, for our workloads the SAS drives are way better, it's not even close.

[devout ridge]

i can get 1tb sata ssds for 55usd

[topaz veldt]

this is just my homelab

its like 200TB of all flash lol

in real shit we're all NVMeoF

[merry stirrup]

gaming

[devout ridge]

i hate that they’re 2.5in bays, so limiting in terms of cheap capacity

maybe i should add a jbod for some 3.5in drives

[topaz veldt]

thats why i have a 36 bay supermicro

36 x 3.5"

[devout ridge]

looking at 300-500usd that way

[frank cypress]

game

[devout ridge]

i’ll probably stick with a bunch of 1tb sata drives since i intend on adding more nodes anyways

[turbid locust]

man it's always so funny to max out hardware with minecraft

[topaz veldt]

you ever play bedrock?

[turbid locust]

why would I do that

[devout ridge]

dream is 5 nodes

for now i’ll max out this node to the specs i want and add nodes from there

[topaz veldt]

so... anyway... i disabled igpu on my 285k, let my son play bedrock, and noticed the 5090 putting off heat. Does it not use CPU at all if theres a GPU?

[turbid locust]

bedrock is different I think

[topaz veldt]

too much shit - i have two hosts, each with 6248R CPUs and 768GB of RAM

[turbid locust]

Java basically barely uses gpu at all

until you install mods

[topaz veldt]

yeah i could not tell if bedrock did or not

and sometimes the gfx look really good

and there was def that "new heat" smell on the new 5090 Ice... but like... dafuq

[devout ridge]

with five nodes i have redundancy

so i can take one machine offline for service/upgrades without compromising the cluster

[turbid locust]

downloading bedrock now. Literally have never touched it lol

[topaz veldt]

i have a storage array

[queen orbit]

I was runnig like six at home and recently swapped out most of them with newer hardware that let me cut back to only having two nodes running everything that was spread out over the six previous ones.

[topaz veldt]

storage array and 2 nodes = redundancy 🙂

and less power, 5 nodes is bonkers for a lab

[devout ridge]

i kind of want 5 machines for shits and giggles

might need to extension cord in another circuit tho

[queen orbit]

That's fair, I was running a whole rack of hardware at home just becuase I could and I wanted to.

[topaz veldt]

i have enough servers to run 5 it just..... no point

[devout ridge]

fun is my point

[queen orbit]

Came in really handy during the pandemic but now I'm back into the office so don't need that at home any more.

[devout ridge]

I find joy in having multiple servers to fuck with

[topaz veldt]

yeah i dunno, not much fun after the 2nd one

[hollow hull]

that is beautiful

[devout ridge]

can i get a breakdown of what i’m even looking at

i see the JBOD and a synology NAS, and some cisco blades

[topaz veldt]

like 2.2kw lol

[queen orbit]

Still a nice looking setup, would be overkill for what I need at home now. I was able to take all my nodes and consolidate all the containers into a single Dell Mini.

[devout ridge]

i assume the EMC is the head server for the jbod, but what’re the orange ones

HOLY FIBER

[topaz veldt]

no the emc is just a 4 node toy

the supermicro "jbod" is a full server, redundant controller truenas all-flash

[devout ridge]

Oh!

[topaz veldt]

the 3 orange boxes are R740s with 6248Rs and 768GB

[devout ridge]

768GB ram each?

[topaz veldt]

the 3par shelf is a hanging off the 36-bay supermicro that's all 3.84TB SATA SSDs also

[topaz veldt]

ya

[devout ridge]

Jesus

[topaz veldt]

right now they have 576GB becaus I was testing additional servers, so I stole some DIMMs out of them

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt seems like it uses some gpu

[topaz veldt]

ok makes sense

lol

when i fully spin up environments in my lab it'll be 60 - 90 VMs and 100 networks, etc.

and then the heat really cranks out

[turbid locust]

yeah it looks like bedrock basically only uses any actual cpu power if you're loading new chunks

otherwise it's pretty gpu bound

[topaz veldt]

so i guess it was using the igpu prior

because the 9070 fans never came on

[turbid locust]

Ive hit 250W peak on gpu just running around

[topaz veldt]

but the 5090s do

[devout ridge]

my current setup

not fully functional atm tho, since i’m waiting on a replacement battery for my UPS at the bottom

the 4u is a really cursed dual LGA-2011 super micro system

the power supply isn’t secured at all, the motherboard only lines up with 2 standoffs so i duck taped over the others, and half the memory channels on one cpu are dead

[turbid locust]

man bedrock skeletons dont give a FUCK

[fervent scaffold]

How is cyberbunk still $60 on steam

[turbid locust]

because it's a AAA game?

[hollow hull]

it's why I only play on peaceful unless I need endermen or blazes

[fervent scaffold]

Its a 5 year old triple A game

[turbid locust]

Thats still being actively worked on and updated lmfao

[devout ridge]

we literally just got another content patch for CP2077

[turbid locust]

it also goes on sale literally every time theres a major steam sale

pull up on labor day weekend bro idk

[fervent scaffold]

Brother what

[turbid locust]

internet mfs when game devs arent just a corporate machine that churns out the same title every year

[fervent scaffold]

I asked a question

[turbid locust]

and we answered

[fervent scaffold]

Chill out bud

[turbid locust]

discord.

[topaz veldt]

literally

@turbid locust .

[turbid locust]

yo

[topaz veldt]

buy my whole 285k/5090

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-3dollars-broke-no-money-patrick-star-gif-9176068

[topaz veldt]

why

[fervent scaffold]

By this logic BF 2042 is still worth $60?

[turbid locust]

Hey pal, I dont give a fuck. Have a good day.

[turbid locust]

because BILLS bro

[topaz veldt]

LOL

bills can be late

you'll never get another chance at this

[turbid locust]

I dont really want a 285k tho

[topaz veldt]

that's what they all say

[turbid locust]

and I dont want to pay for a 5090 lol

[topaz veldt]

sigh

could i fit a 5070 Ti in my terra?

[wraith steeple]

We're going to have some fun modding this tonight

[turbid locust]

probably

My 5070Ti fit very comfortably in my A3

idk how much smaller the terra is

[topaz veldt]

its smallerer

[turbid locust]

according to google my 5070Ti would fit in a terra

[topaz veldt]

hngggg

[pallid marsh]

You should buy the 600watt 5090 would be perfect for this summer heat wave

[turbid locust]

real

as cool as a 5090 would be I literally play Valorant 90% of the time I get to have time to game

[topaz veldt]

are you racist against more fps in valorant?

[turbid locust]

When GTA 6 drops? hell yeah gimme 6090 or whatever lmao but until then

[turbid locust]

im on a 4K 144Hz display and already get 400+...

[pallid marsh]

I do the majority of my gaming on the steam deck

[turbid locust]

I regret selling my steam deck

[topaz veldt]

but wouldn't 800 be better

mac im really excited for BF6

I can't wait for Guilty to buy a 5090 for BF6

[pallid marsh]

I regret not seeing into the Future and waiting for the OLED deck

[turbid locust]

I physically cannot get myself to be even an ounce of hyped about a new FPS game nowadays

[topaz veldt]

i am sorry

i hope you get help

[turbid locust]

Ive just been burned so many times atp

with that being said im watching the trailer now

[pallid marsh]

Fps games just feel too trailered for ADHD brain rot kids, needing to be fast paced with obnoxious skins and emotes

[turbid locust]

I dont mind fast paced, I just dont like games where you can crutch certain things

Like I couldnt stand Xdefiant when people just started bunny hop spamming the entire time

if i get rekt by someone doing a high skill tactic then yeah whatever cool

but if im getting fkin pwned by some kid spamming as many buttons on his controller ass possible im over it lmao

[wraith steeple]

Sadly since it is the PC Port of WT, it does have this reputation of shitting itself every now and then and Definitive Edition is only for the PC version (luckily the GH repository were generous enough to have the ISO file on their site so that makes it less of a headache to get working)

[devout ridge]

fast paced games give my adhd brain anxiety

i’ll take my sandbox games any day of the week

[turbid locust]

RGH a 360, it's worth.

@topaz veldt trailer looks cool ig but it just looks like battlefield lol

If they go back to the old BF3/BF4 class system and make vehicles not overpowered as all fuck I may be interested but

ugh

[pallid marsh]

It's becoming like sport video games same shit just new textures and loot box mechanics

[wraith steeple]

https://youtu.be/-dRjv7FPw_4?si=36o9DBV_G4GBgvcj
This made me really want to invest in modding the living shit out of the game

[pallid marsh]

This is bullshit I need a operating system

[turbid locust]

Acai the goat been watching him for years

[wraith steeple]

Kermit on guitar, Mr Krabs on drums, Jimbo on bass, and Hatsune Miku on guitar and vocals goes hard ICL

[topaz veldt]

It'll be this

[turbid locust]

eh ill believe it when I see it

one clip of someone being cross mapped by an APC and im out

[pallid marsh]

https://youtu.be/u8ccGjar4Es?feature=shared add this song

[wraith steeple]

For Van Halen's Hot for Teacher, I want to have Misato on vocals, Rei on bass, Asuka on guitar, and shinji on drums (or pen pen)

[wraith steeple]

Noted

https://youtu.be/CidLgm7bjyQ?si=o1cXuOqRumg_rhLN
This is hands down the best one IMO

Winnie the Pooh on drums has me wheezing

[fervent scaffold]

2080 founders or evga gtx 1080ti ftw3

[pallid marsh]

2080

[fervent scaffold]

Nvm lol

It was listed for $150, building a first pc for my buddy, but I didnt see that it was 2 hours away

Fuck its a 2080 super

[brisk jolt]

its not too late to seek help

[turbid locust]

But it’s like

I’m okay at Val. I’m good enough to do decently without much effort

So when I just wanna come home after work and game it’s so easy to queue Val

[brisk jolt]

3 guns are all i need in valorant

Judge
Odin
Operator

[turbid locust]

die

[brisk jolt]

nah these guns are op

nobody in this bumfk elo know how to space themselves properly

@topaz veldt Has the astral white come out for u?

came out basically yesterday

[spiral quarry]

👀

[brisk jolt]

Launch a white astral on 5070TiS/5080 super when it comes out and my money is theirs

[modest gazelle]

Quick question, can we change the name of the network displayed there?

Network 163 is odd of a name...

[frail wyvern]

I hate people

hate them

im raging

[modest gazelle]

Hope it wasn't me, I found a solution

[frail wyvern]

nah not you

I lost a game lol

the gamer classic

[modest gazelle]

As long as you didn't lose... the game

[errant parrot]

i need a new cpu because my current i5 6500 isnt compatible with windows 11. Im thinking about getting an amd ryzen 5 5500 or 5600. (the rest of the pc would be a Geforce GTX 1050ti and 16gb of ram) Which of the CPUs is better or should I get an other one?

[wise bear]

well if you move to a 5000 series cpu, you're gonna need new ram & a new motherboard

ddr4 isn't physically or electrically compatible with ddr5

[errant parrot]

Currently i have one of these dell motherboards with out a 24 pin connector, so i need a new motherboard and even a new psu.

[wise bear]

Oof, yeah..

[errant parrot]

but isnt ddr4 ram compatible with most motherboards?

[wise bear]

ddr4 ram is compatible with motherboards that have physical ddr4 slots

[errant parrot]

and can i get a ddr4 compatible motherboard for tis cpu and use the ram i have in my current setup?

[wise bear]

no you already have ddr4

a 5600 uses ddr5

[errant parrot]

ah ok thanks

and is the 5500 good enough for games like Trailmakers or Minecraft with some mods?

[brisk jolt]

yes

[timid compass]

How long does installing Windows tame

Take

[errant parrot]

thanks btw

[brisk jolt]

like 30 mins

[timid compass]

How to do the trick to not use internet

[errant parrot]

sorry if i bother you but are you sure? At least some websites say its compatible with ddr4

[vivid osprey]

leave him alone he is living in not this world

hes is living in earth 1.1 we are at 1.0

[errant parrot]

so is this cpu compatible with ddr4 in our universe?

[vivid osprey]

yes

[errant parrot]

k, thanks

[brisk jolt]

lets try that again

[vivid osprey]

in his universe with ddr5

[wise bear]

I was in another channel, my b- yes, some cpus are listed as ddr4 & ddr5 compatible, but this requires a motherboard that takes am5 & ddr4 (this will be a substantial impact to gaming performance. ddr5 ram is p cheap)