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steel umbra
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my board likes dynamic/auto refclk which makes the base value at 99.8 instead of typical 100mhz

solar geode
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just .2 makes it that much worse?

steel umbra
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it was causing bsods, errors with my ram oc

sinful cobalt
solar geode
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How can a company take something so usable. So functional

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and put electron on it

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SKYPE WAS FINE

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JUST MAKE THAT BETTER

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The outcry for native apps is justified

steel umbra
solar geode
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It really was

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Then they tried being a phone service, for some reason

empty quartz
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@steel umbra

mint umbra
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I don't understand why ppl hate denuovo or whatever it's called so much

empty quartz
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Dont question why my 11 pro has 2 separate batteries

mint umbra
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Most of the time it don't effect performance that much

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Unless your one of those who's just trying to pirate the game

steel umbra
shadow hedge
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it can cause fps drops

unkempt blaze
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Recently shifted to solar energy. This is my setup, this is what it shows. PV is greater than output, does that mean solar energy is covering everything already?

midnight wind
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you should probably check the user manual for that specific device

stark flicker
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Hello,

I have crackling pops sound issue on my system, any ideas as to why?

Rtx 5080 out putting in hdmi into a denon avr x3700h outputting in rca into a 3E audio acting only as a power amplifier for the front speakers or directly to the speakers for the rest
And the denon also outputs to two subs

The speakers are 2x focal aria 948, 2x aria 906, 1x aria cc900, 1x focal sub1000f, 1x arendal 1961 1S

Any tips on why I would have crackling audio?

limpid dune
stark flicker
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And it got measured and had a good dac

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But yeah maybe it's still the gpu
I need to check if I have an optical out and cable or smth

limpid dune
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TOSlink is ideal, yeah. And it's a bit of a crime to feed such a nice AVC off of motherboard audio, but it's worth a try just to see if it helps.

stark flicker
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Oh wait, I didn't understand the sentence sorry

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Yeah I have to try that

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I really hope it's not a hardware issue from the audio gear

tidal geyser
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intel doing some magic

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i do not understand how amd cant manage to do this

steel umbra
south nova
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i am thinking about getting a 5060 8 gb to go with my ryzen 5 9600x

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is this a good idea or should i get a different gpu

tidal geyser
tidal geyser
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a 2 year old igpu giving playable framerates while the game still looks amazing, all while the framegen output still needs to display out on a 3440X1440

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tho for some strange reason framegen in this game seems to have some kinda issue with input latency or something

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it just makes me want a panther lake even more to see what it can do

vapid ibex
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Dude what kinda fire ass name is that man

tidal geyser
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m yes tech chat

vapid ibex
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M yess

tidal geyser
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amazing

vapid ibex
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Idk why

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But he looks hopeless

limpid dune
# tidal geyser intel doing some magic

the magic being shared GPU memory? AMD has been doing that since at least 2011 afaik, the main thing that makes that iGPU fast is the fact it has stupid fast DDR5-8733

median warren
tidal geyser
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and yes i already had a argument about that shit

median warren
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If you can get the 5060ti 16gb version but if you can't it's okay, 5070 is also 12gb

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9060xt is also a 16gb model that's cheaper than the 5060ti and pretty good

tidal geyser
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people think unified memory is a apple only thing or whatever

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anything with a igpu has it

solid spear
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Hi

tidal geyser
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but the way memory managment software level is different is what makes apple different, almost like making a OS around your own self made chips comes with benefits over stuff having to deal with many many many years of backwards compatibility

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and even then apple has some amazing translation layers

keen stratus
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Can someone help me chain my fans together

tidal geyser
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more info needed

keen stratus
# tidal geyser more info needed

My new fan has
1x sata
1x 2 pin connector
1x 2 pin socket
1x 4 pin socket

I have 3 fans already in my case 1 exhaust 2 intake
I'm trying to link them together so the rgb syncs

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My existing fan has the same but only 1 existing fan has the same connector rest 2 have only 4 pin connector which goes into the 4 pin socket

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These are all the connectors my new singular fan came with

1 existing fan also has these which Is already connected and running

grave jay
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if i say windows 11 is efficient enough as it is, more efficient than macOS....

steel umbra
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Damn i've got so weak can't even carry this

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Not even 6kg

solid spear
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Hey can someone help me with my windows installation issue 🥹🙏🙏

steel umbra
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Wat is the problem

solid spear
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I dont rlly wanna flood the chat with messages

steel umbra
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It's tc-1 and the channel isn't very active

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rn

solid spear
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So basically I had a processor and I decided to swap the gpu + cpu + ram into a new case cooler and nvme m.2 ssd
And i followed linus' tutorial on how to setup windows 11
And i downloaded the windows installer on a usb stick
And started the upgraded pc and and spammed f8 and booted from the usb stick and did the installation process
And i don't rlly know what happened but it seemed like it succeeded in installing the windows and it restarted itself multiple times
With the asus (motherboard) logo and at the final restart
The mouse keyboard and monitor isn't receiving anything
And the power button on the processor is blinking with gpu, fans etc working completely fine
And its been like that hours
Note: after moving the components to a new case and motherboard it still had its old ssd (it was outdated and short so I couldn't screw it in and it kept hanging there) and I could boot normally and play games normally but then there was a windows update and I updated it and I think it corrupted my old ssd windows when it turned off accidentally

rugged tusk
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Check that there is no loose screw floating around the case, or motherboard screw not tight, maybe give the case a gentle shake. Then try reinstall windows from your usb key.

south nova
tidal geyser
stone shard
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windows found a ps1 script on my laptop, who can i send it to for them to tell me what is does

south nova
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i am wanting to buold a new pc

tidal geyser
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full system specs

south nova
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gigabyte b650 motherboard and ryzen 5 9600x is all i have so far

tidal geyser
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why build a new pc then

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just upgrade the gpu

south nova
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no

tidal geyser
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yes

south nova
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that is the new pc im building

tidal geyser
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not what i was asking

south nova
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ryzen 5500 3050

tidal geyser
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there we go, how much budge do you have planned out for the new pc

south nova
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uhhh im just going w ith the flow fr

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i dont want to spend more than 400 on a gpu

tidal geyser
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DO NOT budget like that

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prices change constanly

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how much do you plan to spend for the entire new pc

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the ram alone will be like 200-400$

south nova
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nah ik thast

tidal geyser
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if you go am5

south nova
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i got my cpu for 100$ case for 50$ motherboard for 160

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im not worrying about total im just buying stuff i need to build it

tidal geyser
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wat, motherboard for 160

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even here in Norway you can get a good b650 for 140$ brand new

tidal geyser
south nova
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wait

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mb 140LOL

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154 countingm shipping

south nova
tidal geyser
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prices change and you waste money for parts that lose their value and become worse that you cant even use

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well they do not become worse but rather the average goes up

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not really a true waste but just bad managment of money, could rather i dono invest it or just have some spare change in case anything happens

ionic peak
tidal geyser
median warren
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Cup of butter

tidal geyser
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discord is so broken

median warren
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Fork found in kitchen

last barn
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very insane reach but is there anyone here who is/knows someone who has a first authored paper on arxiv in CS?

ionic peak
mortal mantle
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how is this thing using so much fucking VRAM

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(almost maxed out)

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(and yet again 60FPS)

tidal geyser
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well

mortal mantle
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(below the min reqs and without framegen)

tidal geyser
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there is a reason why people are freaking out about vram

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also it looks like you are over maxed out

mortal mantle
tidal geyser
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it has some amount of headroom just in case

native path
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its there for you to use why not use it

mortal mantle
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the fuck

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FSR and framegen literally change nothing

tidal geyser
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tbh it more so looks like you have vsync or smn on

tidal geyser
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many things i still have more to learn

mortal mantle
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what engine could this even be

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UE?

tidal geyser
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RE Engine

mortal mantle
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and ofc without V-Sync it jumps to over 100 FPS

tidal geyser
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xd

mortal mantle
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where the fuck are they getting these numbers out of

tidal geyser
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one thing i do have to say, wow the lowest settings on certain games still look unreal

mortal mantle
tidal geyser
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you might have optimized it a bit more here and there while they might have gone for the lowest fps on maybe a demanding erea

mortal mantle
tidal geyser
mortal mantle
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how the fuck is blocking screenshots

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(Win+Shift+S does nothing)

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(print screen worked)

tidal geyser
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at least in directive 8020 it got native xess 3 and WOW its stunning i can run at ultra performance and hard to notice any defects on anything but moving objects and even then its not the worst

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oh jebus yea 9GB

mortal mantle
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(somehow)

tidal geyser
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well yea its spilling into ram

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but upscaling is off

mortal mantle
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in-game FPS

tidal geyser
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ok

clear canyon
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@tidal geyser wanna hear a joke

tidal geyser
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o no

dusky spindle
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do i have any chance to get my data back

mortal mantle
proper gull
teal sphinx
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you guys reckon the price of the pc components will ever go back to pre price hike?

dusky spindle
mortal mantle
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then go into Boot Manager and pick Windows Boot Manager (or if you are on Linux then UEFI OS) and then backup whatever the fuck you have on that drive

quasi moat
tidal geyser
dusky spindle
tidal geyser
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then its not important

stray portal
tidal geyser
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anyways high chance the ssd is in read only mode

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you should either borrow a computer or install windows on another drive in that pc boot into it recover what yo can and back it up to a offsite NAS or the cloud

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i just want to drive it home that if you have stuff you care about then make sure its in a safe place

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your ssd can always fail, your hand could always slip and so on

native path
rapid wave
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Hi I need help finding the right authenticator app Microsoft uses on PC I think I used the wrong one can anyone help please

stray portal
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I dont like the white minimalism bs it feels empty and unnatural and most of the time its not done right

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Also its hard to maintain properly

native path
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my white case is because it was cheaper than the black cases

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#realone

stray portal
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Hmm

ionic ember
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my case is only available in black and it also doesn't matter because I am vehemently anti-windowed side panel

native path
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my side panel is away from me

ionic ember
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tbh if a case isn't going to use a windowed side panel it should at least have some ventilation in it, that's my major gripe with my current one

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excellent front ventilation though

clear canyon
ionic ember
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ripped out the stock fan and replaced it with a noctua + added two noctua 140's in the front

native path
ionic ember
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peerless assassin 120 time

native path
ionic ember
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it's enough for a 9950X3D, it's enough for whatever processor you're running

ionic ember
native path
ionic ember
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what about it?

native path
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i cant just let it rot in a closet

ionic ember
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what's stopping you?

native path
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i would feel bad cuz i spnet like $130 on that

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well $100 usd

ionic ember
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peerless assassin 120 is 35 bucks and cools anything

native path
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well doesnt matter i already have my lf3

ionic ember
native path
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i put a peerless assassin in my server i've been happy with it

sinful cobalt
ionic ember
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air cooler gang

native path
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i only bought it because i wanted to try something new :(

native path
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which ive realised doesnt matter because its on the floor anyway i dont look at the darn thing

ionic ember
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yeah that's valid, I tried to return to CLC's and everything was way too fiddly for my liking but that could have been down to my choice of fans at the time and my inability to tune a good fan curve

sinful cobalt
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I have a fatass assassin 4 VC sitting in my closet

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that thing is quiet as fuck

native path
sinful cobalt
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its also hella big tho

clear canyon
ionic ember
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you can get around not tuning a fan curve though by just shoving noctuas everywhere which is what I ended up doing

native path
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i dont tune my fans i just put them in and hope for the best

native path
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my air purifier makes more noise

clear canyon
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I only did a fan curve with my ippc industrial noctua fans bc they are loud as shit

ionic ember
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lol my air purifiers are those cleanairkits ones that use PC fans

clear canyon
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Same lol

ionic ember
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I was looking at a pile of random fans I had been holding onto for years and it was the only way I could figure out how to use them

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anyways, computers

sinful cobalt
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colin are you the guy with the 4070TiS

ionic ember
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sure am

sinful cobalt
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aite i have shit memory remembering peeps

ionic ember
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all good lol

ionic ember
sinful cobalt
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hell nah LOL

ionic ember
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they work incredibly well actually

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the nice thing is that when the filter dies I can just go 5 minutes down the road to the hardware store and pick up more

native path
ionic ember
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just not recommended if you have pets/kids running around because the filter is way too easy for a cat to sink their claws into

native path
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Oh I want a cat

median warren
red light
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Is this an electronic waste?

native path
median warren
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Penguin bro

brave brook
native path
median warren
ionic ember
brave brook
glossy veldt
ionic ember
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the only thing better than "next to free" is actually free, so if you're given it for free then more power to you

native path
glossy veldt
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@native path this FUCKER here who sleeps soundly PISSES the shit out of my motorcycle

native path
glossy veldt
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yes but they pee on the floor or on some vertical surfaces if they're male

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cats will spray their pee

native path
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It’s ok

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You can’t convince me otherwise

glossy veldt
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they pee on places you didn't think were possible in the animal kingdom

native path
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I know I want a cat 😭

glossy veldt
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female cats are nice tho if neutered they can live for decades

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but you need to buy them food for neutered cats or they'll suffer

ionic ember
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god bless micro center, I don't need any of this but it's nice that they're still offering reasonably priced bundles

ionic ember
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yeah that's really good in this market

glossy veldt
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in my country Argentina just the 7800x3d goes for 500-600 usd

ionic ember
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200 bucks for ram though larry

glossy veldt
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it's two ddr5 16gb sticks

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those go for exorbitant prices down here

ionic ember
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I know but I am still in disbelief that memory is as expensive as it is

median warren
glossy veldt
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a 32gb ddr5 trident something kit in my country goes for well over 700 usd

median warren
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Sad times

glossy veldt
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I'm fine with my 16gh ddr4 2666 crucial

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it does what it needs to do just fine

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my A2000 runs good for the games i need to play

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like, it can run Subnautica 2 at medium settings with 50 fps

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i think game's not that optimized though

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6gb of vram sucks but oh well

ionic ember
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you can still make 6gb of vram work and devs that demand 12 should be publicly shamed

calm quarry
calm quarry
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But that’s a next month problem

fallow yacht
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damn this upgraded train station looks CLEAN

serene python
steel umbra
turbid reef
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time to change laptop's thermal paste? constantly whining and idle temps over 50C

ionic ember
tidal geyser
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well you are using a avg of 6.4w

turbid reef
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lets see

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with 30% load about 70C

oblique shoal
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I know Forza Horizon 6 is still not fully released to the whole world but does anyone know how well a 9070 xt paired with a 7800X3D would run the game?

turbid reef
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100% hits 92C, cores 89-90C

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fan giving it all

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max cpu power was 19W during 100% load

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tough dunno is 3dmark's cpu profile a good benchmark

ionic ember
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prime95 will bring any cpu cooler to its knees but I think that might be too much for your little laptop

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as is, I think a repaste would do you well, and you could also replace the thermal pads with putty

turbid reef
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ordered PTS from local supplier

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tough they're out of stock, but new shipment of 100 should be within 2 weeks

craggy cove
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ptm helps a lot with laptop chips

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usually i just dont bother with pads

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only worth it with like gddr6x or if its realllly bad

turbid reef
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well I have liquid metal but I have been constantly been advised not to use with chips that do not have heatspreader 😄

ionic ember
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tbh I just flat out do not recommend liquid metal anymore

tidal geyser
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i never did and never will

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LM under a BGA chip, gg

ionic ember
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I do have liquid metal under the lid on my old 8700k but I delidded that thing like a decade ago when I applied it

tidal geyser
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that was the last gen to use paste right

ionic ember
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if not that then close to it

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that cpu just runs my NAS/plex server these days

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little overkill but whatever

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I'd be interested in upgrading that platform to something else because I am running into PCI lane limitations but it's not a big enough deal for me to mess with atm

steel umbra
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it also tends to corrode a lot of things

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none of these are pretty much an issue with pastes

ionic ember
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yeah but I've seen so many horror stories of factory liquid metal on GPUs and laptops leaking out and frying everything

steel umbra
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just don’t put paste where the socket is and you’ll be fine

ionic ember
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I have PTM on my GPU and stock thermalright paste on my CPU (which seems to be working fine) so I have no reason to mess with it right now, but if I ever have to pull of my CPU cooler I'll probably put PTM on that as well

ionic ember
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the liquid metal in my 8700k has been stable for like a decade now but I'd probably not buy it again

steel umbra
ionic ember
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only reason I did it that time was because there was a measurable 10-15 degree drop with a delid at the time

ionic ember
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temps are still fine on the 8700k

steel umbra
ionic ember
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that's just TrueNAS

steel umbra
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interesting

ionic ember
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even when you zoom out to a month it's fine

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those little spikes are probably when stuff was getting written

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I'm also using that pink thermal grizzly stuff on it because i have no intention of actually doing any maintenance to it besides cleaning out dust when I actually power it down once a year

steel umbra
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personally i use hwinfo to log

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not only you can check sensor info but you can log it directly through hwinfo into a .csv file

ionic ember
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hwinfo isn't available on truenas scale but it also doesn't matter, my nas is less of a computer and more of an appliance

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I pay about as much attention to my NAS's health as I do my refrigerator or dishwasher

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clean out the dust once a year and then throw it right back into service

steel umbra
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i wish manufacturers would pay more mind to lifespan of appliances

ionic ember
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yeah but then they can't sell you new ones

steel umbra
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instead of AI slop for example

steel umbra
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agaisn’t them

ionic ember
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oh no the industrial stuff is miles better than consumer grade

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it's also 10 times more expensive

steel umbra
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i sell you a device that lasts a limited amount of time, so why should you sell me devices that last long? when you can do the same

ionic ember
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You can buy a Maytag washing machine for 800 bucks and it will do the job just fine but your local hotel will be using a Speed Queen to wash hundreds of pounds of bedding a week and that machine will cost $8000

ionic ember
steel umbra
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which have their own requirements

ionic ember
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despite the citizens united verdict corporations are actually not people

steel umbra
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doing planned obscolecence or products with short lifespan due to ignorance fuels fake economy instead of anything positive

ionic ember
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it does do a positive thing and that is to make the balance sheet look better and if you think these companies care about anything else I have oceanfront property in montana to sell you

steel umbra
ionic ember
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it's the philosophy of designing stuff to a budget instead of a purpose

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"we want to sell this prospective new product for $800, where can we cut corners to get the cost down to $600 (or whatever) so we can make $200 on each sale?"

worn willow
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wy my ram filled

steel umbra
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coating costs few cents to spray on

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but let’s say the process costs $5 in the upper range for some reason

ionic ember
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versus on the commercial/B2B side they are more concerned with increasing the reliability of the product so they don't get hit with warranty claims by the businesses they're each selling hundreds of units to

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lose one consumer who might buy your product? drop in the bucket
lose one business who buys a thousand every year for hundreds of thousands of dollars? there goes a quarter of your company's revenue

clear canyon
worn willow
clear canyon
worn willow
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maybe virus

clear canyon
steel umbra
worn willow
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windows is running

steel umbra
limber nacelle
clear canyon
ionic ember
worn willow
clear canyon
steel umbra
worn willow
clear canyon
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Bruh

steel umbra
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the last drop was when my a52s touch screen died almost right after warranty

clear canyon
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You have 24gb of ram

steel umbra
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and the battery has degraded a lot

limber nacelle
clear canyon
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And 20gb is being used by VB

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Thats ur issue

limber nacelle
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yeah my battery degraded like crazy iirc

worn willow
clear canyon
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@worn willow

clear canyon
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Use dynamic allocation

steel umbra
ionic ember
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anyways yeah corporations only care about how much money they make, any notion of a better product is a result of competition in the space they operate in or laws that prohibit them from selling junk advertised as gold

steel umbra
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turn into spicy pillows if you don’t use your phone for 2+ years

worn willow
clear canyon
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Give it the ability to use up to how ever much you need but with dynamic allocation, it wont use/set aside that ram

clear canyon
worn willow
steel umbra
clear canyon
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Bc it can be useing like 3gb of ram but if you gave it 20gb, it will say its using the full 20gb

tender relic
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Just some advice please
Would this fit in a montech 95 king pro

steel umbra
worn willow
steel umbra
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sumsan

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better than samsung

turbid reef
steel umbra
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indium is fun

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you can easily forge it with just a hammer

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and bite the metal

ionic ember
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LM technically has the best thermal conductivity but the juice isn't worth the squeeze when PTM is available and only performs like 20% worse (versus regular thermal paste which is somewhere to the tune of 80% worse)

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LM made sense when we were delidding to get 20 degrees back, it's kinda dumb these days

steel umbra
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could be up to 5x better

ionic ember
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have fun bricking potentially multiple components in your system with today's hardware prices

craggy cove
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how tf does an igpu artifact

steel umbra
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if you apply lm on something like 7800x3d w ihs (you don’t do that), i doubt you would notice bigger than a 2-5c difference

ionic ember
craggy cove
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interestingly enough before it just didnt give me a video out

steel umbra
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the ihs is just way too thick, the die is too dense and you have the cache on top of the die

steel umbra
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not sure if such scenario exists though

steel umbra
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delicious nickel tarnished by le evil lm

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btw unlike zinc corrosion or copper oxide, nickel oxide or other forms of nickel corrosion are poor conductors of heat

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the amount of damage lm does over time isn’t that much but it could be notiable especially on nickel

ionic ember
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I haven't removed my delidded 8700k from its socket since I installed it and I have no intention to at this point, if it dies it dies, but it's been going for a decade now and I don't think it's going to go anytime soon

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if anything it might be the mobo that goes in that system but even then, it's a ROG Maximus X Hero which is a pretty solid motherboard

mortal mantle
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wait Pragmata's demo is this short

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beat it in 20 minutes

iron glen
craggy cove
steel umbra
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hill

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o2

craggy cove
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also on the topic of copper oxide

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totally never sent this before

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i just dont know what to do with this

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feed it to wildlife maybe

steel umbra
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you can easily clean it off though it’s not recommended

craggy cove
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no mounts + trash cooler

steel umbra
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you’ll exhaust the copper and it’ll corrode faster over time

craggy cove
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is that why they have those stickers

steel umbra
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anyways if you want to remove it regardless, vinegar + salt

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it works like magic

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but you have to thoroughly and i mean thoroughly wipe it off

limber nacelle
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ngl, with how cheap a decent single tower is now.... just buy a new one mate

steel umbra
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literally as soon as you drop the solution the corroded copper tends to instantly turn into brand new looking coppah

ionic ember
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cheap, cools anything

iron glen
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Looks kinda like mold

steel umbra
ionic ember
limber nacelle
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not to say it's a bad cooler at all, just may not be what they need

steel umbra
#

4 heatpipe 120mm tower coolers can be found for $10 on places like aliexpress

#

you gotta replace the fan though

#

but for some the stock fan’s going to be acceptable ig

#

they’re just dc

worn willow
#

ow can i take pic of my cursor

limber nacelle
#

are the thermalright tl-c14 any good?

#

been just looking for something decently quiet and PWM that's cheap

steel umbra
limber nacelle
#

not expecting like noctua levels of performance, just anything better than what i currently have

#

though in fairness to the shit fans.... they're not too loud actually

steel umbra
#

thermalright has good stuff expect fan bearings

limber nacelle
#

argh

steel umbra
#

they tend to be a miss most of the time

limber nacelle
#

cheap though 😔

steel umbra
#

sort of the nidec gentle typhoon fan noise at low rpms

latent gull
limber nacelle
#

i guess you get what you pay for

#

tbh i feel like every fan that i've owned that's not the a12x25 has disappointed me

steel umbra
#

a12x25 bearing supermacy

limber nacelle
#

i was considering the silent wing 4 140mm but i also don't want to pay $40 cad per fan again

steel umbra
#

it’s just $30 >;(

#

too muccch

limber nacelle
limber nacelle
steel umbra
#

i was highly disappointed by them

limber nacelle
#

no good 140mm fan options

#

literally 1984

steel umbra
#

be quiet doesn’t even know what they sell because they misadvertised the minimum rpm for the bq sw 4 hs 120mms

limber nacelle
#

GADDAMNNNNN

#

damn the chromax is the same price as the non chromax? fuck me

steel umbra
craggy cove
#

got it from a dumb seller

limber nacelle
#

i know those are the fans on the new nh d15 but uh.... $113 for two fans is a bit much for me :^)

craggy cove
#

and not in a "4090 for 200 dollars dont need it anymore dumb"

#

but "i will ship this motherboard, cpu and cooler across the country in a plastic shopping bag"

#

looked unused just with no mounts

steel umbra
#

.

craggy cove
#

like why

limber nacelle
steel umbra
#

yeahh no

limber nacelle
#

i kinda dont want another pair of arctic fans either so now im stuck

#

OH i just remembered

#

@verbal prawn you don't have p12 pros

#

it was the p12 max that i bought

#

fuck the max

#

i mean they are very high static pressure but they're annoying as FUCK

limber nacelle
#

i used to not care but not anymore

steel umbra
#

same experience

limber nacelle
#

never again

steel umbra
#

ticking issues at low rpm

limber nacelle
#

are the p14 pros alright?

steel umbra
#

didn’t test those

limber nacelle
#

fair enough

#

i might just get a pack of them cause if they're closer to like, the p12 pst which i remember buying and them being alright, it's decent for $75 cad for 5

steel umbra
limber nacelle
#

are you fucking kidding me

#

🥀

steel umbra
#

sadly nou

limber nacelle
#

bro imma just pay for the noctuas at this rate

#

actually have you had any of the redux fans?

steel umbra
sinful cobalt
#

ive had a phanteks t30 sit in my drawer for the past 4 months

#

it yearns to go somewhere

steel umbra
limber nacelle
#

argh

limber nacelle
steel umbra
#

i might have to look as well because i haven’t been really active lately with fans, at least as i used to be

ionic ember
#

noctuas are the pay to win solution to your fan problem forever but that doesn't mean they're great value

steel umbra
#

well, if you want the best bearing i can’t think of anything better or equivalent

ionic ember
#

hey, I say all that as a guy that runs noctuas wherever possible

steel umbra
#

i mean if your fans last a long time (noctuas do last) maybe a worthwhile investment for $30/fan

#

idk

#

i also try to not buy them bc it’s $30 and psus don’t need $30 fans

ionic ember
#

the only non-noctua fans in my build are on my processor because I'm not paying 4 times the price for a noctua tower cooler that might be 5% better under very specific circumstances over a peerless assassin 120

steel umbra
#

i’m also not buying noctua coolers

ionic ember
#

I think my GPU's fans might be louder than my CPU's fans anyways

worn willow
#

i got cursor

clear canyon
steel umbra
#

i usually buy heatsinks by heatpipe count, thickness, fin density and size

clear canyon
steel umbra
#

and ofc mounting as well

steel umbra
steel umbra
solid spear
#

Guys is it safe to use a gen 4 nvme ssd on a gen 3 motherboard?

ionic ember
#

yeah it'll just run at gen3 speeds

steel umbra
#

what’s wrong here?

#

guess

ionic ember
#

that's not a noctua cooler or fan

steel umbra
steel umbra
#

yeah i experiment with these cheapo coolors

solid spear
# steel umbra yes

Would it show any errors when im tryna boot from that ssd after downloading windows from a usb ? I did it and booted from that ssd but it did the restarts and now it's still running with the mouse n keyboard off

#

I never installed windows

#

This my first time

steel umbra
#

or motherboard

solid spear
steel umbra
solid spear
#

Should I just let it do it's thing for a couple more minutes? I don't rlly know how long it takes to do em

steel umbra
#

i ran out of ideas on how to fix your pc

#

there’s probably one that i forgot ofc

solid spear
#

😭 ✌️

steel umbra
#

which will fix your pc

ionic ember
# steel umbra took you record 5-10 seconds

yeah the lack of noctua branding was the dead giveaway but also the injection molding on the fan looks worse than I've seen with any of the fans I have, plus the blades themselves don't have the indentations in them that you'd see on an actual noctua

#

it's like they just took the 80mm noctua and scaled it up

steel umbra
#

the fins are flimsy as well

#

you can literally remove them

#

so cheap they didn’t even… it’s just too cheap to explain

solid spear
steel umbra
#

well maybe time

solid spear
steel umbra
#

@solid spear you tried to install another windows installation media on a different flash drive?

ionic ember
#

on second thought I might swap in a NH-U12A for my peerless assassin 120 just so everything can match but it's going to be a tight fit in my case

steel umbra
ionic ember
solid spear
ionic ember
steel umbra
solid spear
#

I used my very precious 512tb usb it's like so stable

steel umbra
#

idkkdkdkd then

solid spear
#

I doubt it would make it install a faulty or fail to be read

#

😭😭😭😭😭

ionic ember
#

@solid spear when's the last time you updated your BIOS?

ionic ember
#

I think I found the problem

solid spear
#

Can u clarify

steel umbra
#

but you said it worked before or?

solid spear
#

It worked completely normally before

ionic ember
#

can't hurt

steel umbra
solid spear
#

Like i had a diff ssd in without a m2 screw in and i could play vid games etc then there was a Microsoft update and when it restarted it was repairing windows and it got corrupted so I had to clean install but then I decided to use a diff ssd that's mountable so I js got a different ssd card and I also resented the bios by pullin out da cmos battery and ye

#

That's basically the whole thing

steel umbra
ionic ember
#

most recent windows build might not play nice with the bios/hardware configuration

solid spear
#

Alr

steel umbra
#

just if you do flash be careful

sinful cobalt
steel umbra
#

if you brick your motherboard and it has no way of reverting it like bios flash back

solid spear
steel umbra
#

you’ll have one less motherboard potentially forever

solid spear
#

What do u exactly get to flash it

steel umbra
steel umbra
#

similar to windows installation

solid spear
steel umbra
#

you install it on a flash drive

#

and put into motherboard i/o in the manual where it says flashing supported

#

sometimes your mb doesn’t have it indicated, in that case plug it anywhere on your mb’s i/o

limber nacelle
#

@steel umbra huh it turns out the p12 max we bought might've had double ball bearings instead of fluid dynamic bearings

limber nacelle
#

🥀

clear canyon
steel umbra
#

i’m ruining your dream sorre

limber nacelle
#

every pc fan sucks

#

only noctua is worth it 🥀

#

it's joever boss

steel umbra
#

turned your 50km/h vehicle into 0km/h

#

ajajaja

steel umbra
#

well it stopped it seems

#

but it did leak some lightly tinted yellow lube

#

idk how that happens

#

btw there is no p12 max dbb white

clear canyon
steel umbra
clear canyon
steel umbra
#

creeper is crazyeye

#

@clear canyon this better than yor house

#

bowling.

ivory mountain
#

i use p12 pro and p14 pro

gleaming rose
#

I'm getting a pixel 10 pro

#

speak now or forever hold your peace

steel umbra
clear canyon
steel umbra
steel umbra
#

although imo the best thing is measuring frequencies with a sensitive mic for that purpose at a set % to get a more normalized audio recording

#

to get the fuller picture

#

although mics that properly pick up those noises tend to be expensive

#

and not everyone has a sound chamber

#

so i’d not rely only on db/c

pulsar root
#

does anyone like the asthetic of the founder edition cards much better than the other variants

keen stratus
#

I installed warzone and it said I needed bios firmware update so I updated my bios to latest version but now when I started warzone again it again told me to update my bios
Is there a fix for this?

median warren
#

Yeah try googling it and see what it says

#

Just always try Google first, there's going to be a fix most likely or a random Reddit post

alpine heron
#

I ultimately need 2 racks that are 34U or taller, they ideally are kinda shallow during transport so I can easily get through doorways etc as needed, the associated other supplies are all living in https://www.therestaurantstore.com/items/199449

alpine heron
#

Note security isn't a concern for the racks

#

They're holding cheap displays and BNC connectors so odds of someone wanting them is low

tired bear
#

36u of it lol?

#

8u ones are way more common in av

alpine heron
#

Yeah. I'm pushing a meme hard with this

tired bear
#

if its just patch pannel shit you can actualy mount it on both sides of rack

alpine heron
#

16 of these is what I'm transporting

#

8 per rack.
4u each
Add another couple U for a BNC patch panel and a power supply

#

Each is 12v 1.5A or whatever.
So a 12v 20a CCTV power supply which is only 1U should more than handle a rack of 8

tired bear
#

this is all equipment that is really shallow right

alpine heron
#

Yep that's why the thing I linked is only 15in deep

#

Which is still overkill. I need probably like 8in really other than the power supply

tired bear
#

tbh i would fabricate some shit that folds on itself

alpine heron
#

Not sure what you mean

#

I did consider fabbing something but that takes time and I sadly don't have tons of fab time available these days

#

And it's not something I can easily hire someone to fab for under a couple grand probably

tired bear
#

two of these, hinge on the base and top
folded it would have this equipment on both sides of rack, unfolded it would be like two racks side to side

alpine heron
#

True. Main concern with the 2 post stuff is I figure they're tippy

#

And not sure about attaching wheels

limber shale
#

genesis aio opinion?

hexed tapir
limber shale
limber shale
#

well its not just visuals

hexed tapir
#

But longevity of air-cooler outweighs the $15 voucher

limber shale
#

my vrms overheat, and instead of buying 3 fans, i can just buy an aio

limber shale
tired bear
limber shale
#

arctic 7x

limber shale
#

like from thermal throtling at 4ghz to letting me use 4.4ghz on the i5

hexed tapir
#

That's why artic added a fan on their aio

limber shale
#

vrms are up on my mb

hexed tapir
limber shale
#

bro

#

all of this has air drawing upward right

hexed tapir
hexed tapir
limber shale
#

yeah but thats when the vrms are on the left right

#

so they get hit by a fan

hexed tapir
#

Left and top

limpid dune
#

stupid idea: a motherboard with a bajillion fan headers, and you select the fan profile by just choosing which header you want 🤣

snow mauve
#

well, having the physical range to choose from is still helpful

#

especially considering routing of wires, etc may m ake some locations better

sharp ivy
#

I've looked this up on the internet, but I bought a Dell laptop a couple days ago that hasn't been used in a few years and as such is quite behind on windows updates

#

I don't want to connect it to my home wifi because it hasn't been updated in a long time

#

how would I update it without internet?

#

it seems to involve a USB drive and microsoft downloads but it isn't making sense

craggy cove
#

wow my facebook marketplace smurf account has (estonian) ebay built in

craggy cove
#

like just download windows 11 installation media on your main pc, make a bootable usb and then format and download windows

#

not a detailed guide by me but you get the idea

quasi moat
#

Crimson Dawn is one hell of a test for this gpu

#

I’ve never seen my shit struggle like this

#

DLAA + Ray reconstruction and max everything in 4k

#

Had to turn fake frames on to get over 140 fps

#

Still not even there really

craggy cove
#

is that a 5090

#

600w 🔥

quasi moat
hexed tapir
fast girder
#

Picked this box for $50 at the flee market! It's an RX 5600xt 6g.
My son has GTX 1080 right now, will that be an upgrade?

sharp ivy
#

I'm just worried that if I reinstall windows I'll need to activate it

#

and I don't have the key

#

people have said that I won't need the key cause it's built into the motherboard, but I don't know if the laptop has that cause it's an older model (Dell Latitude D530)

hexed tapir
#

It's really title dependent in world of tanks at 1440p the 1080 was much better

craggy cove
craggy cove
craggy cove
#

well i mean why wouldnt you just update it and use it if you want win 10

#

unless you open weird stuff you'll be fine

#

my grandma is using a win 7 pc and that pc is fine

#

if you install a new windows 10 installation it won't be updated out of the box anyway

ionic atlas
#

Asus 2026 new laptop prices are kinda apple.

#

the 16" here costs 6470eur. that's way more than what my macbook pro 16 max costed. whoa

sharp ivy
#

I was worried about it getting infected cause it was last used in 2016

formal sonnet
sharp ivy
hexed tapir
#

Non arm based laptops are stinky but arm based windows laptops are stinkiest

formal sonnet
#

This is on Windows 11, so you'll have to find where it is on Windows 10. Should be in a similar place.

formal sonnet
# sharp ivy

Ah, so it might not even have a legitimate Windows 10 license anyway...

sharp ivy
sharp ivy
formal sonnet
#

Oh jeeze yeah I wouldn't upgrade that to Windows 11 even if you had a license. That needs to be replaced.

sharp ivy
#

?

#

what needs to be replaced

#

the windows?

formal sonnet
#

The laptop. It's almost 20 years old. The Latitude D530 was released in 2007.

sharp ivy
#

I wanted to keep it on the most up to date version of 10

#

oh the specs sticker is lying

#

it has Core 2 Duo T7250 and 3GB ram

limpid ivy
# sharp ivy

Oh lord a centrino I have one of those laptops still lying around lol.

sharp ivy
#

I was gonna install mint XFCE

#

but I wanted to keep the OG windows

formal sonnet
sharp ivy
#

$15CAD at Value Village

formal sonnet
sharp ivy
#

I run Mint XFCE on my MSI laptop

#

Which has Core 2 Duo T6600 and 4GB of RAM

fast girder
empty quartz
#

1 week until whale lan pipebombinyourmailbox

#

Chat is dead today

formal sonnet
#

Chat just needs the touch of a freezing cold hand on their face to wake them up.

limpid ivy
#

relaxed day 🙂

formal sonnet
# limpid ivy relaxed day 🙂

110% this. Now that I've dropped off my defective monitor for return, the rest of this long weekend is nothing but sipping beers on the back deck in the sun.

jovial swan
#

Mhmhm yes collection

cosmic stratus
#

Unlocking nimo n154s. deviousTeef

#

Need to unlock voltage settings so I can tune the i3 1215u

sly chasm
#

i am going to throw me pc at the wall if it wont stop crashing

latent gull
azure topaz
#

both

#

both is good

formal sonnet
latent gull
#

that ones fine, too syrupy imo. The zero sugar ones goated

formal sonnet
#

I can't do any zero sugar sodas. Aspartame gives me headaches. Stevia makes me need the services of a plumber.

latent gull
#

thats a great excuse to drink full sugar drinks

sly chasm
#

what is a reasonable temp to see your gpu hotspot at

limpid dune
limpid dune
#

unless it's a laptop, in which case: it will be a bajillion degrees no matter what

sly chasm
#

so this is bad

limpid dune
sly chasm
#

7600xt

limpid dune
#

oh yeah that's quite hot... not danger-hot, but hotter than it should be

#

consider a repaste

#

my 4080S was at 110C for a while, turns out the OEM paste was just crap. I PTMed it and now it doesn't get above 80

sly chasm
#

that somehow isnt my crashing issue tho

limpid dune
#

it might be, since silicon gets less stable as it heats up

#

what does the full OCCT spreadsheet look like?

sly chasm
#

the test i was running finished

limpid dune
# sly chasm

your 5V supply is 4.7V, and your 3.3V supply is 3.0V 😅 that's not too bad but it's unusually low, maybe give your PSU a check

sly chasm
#

its like 5 years old its a seasonic 850 focus gold

limpid dune
# sly chasm

yeah, having an average temp at 75C and your peak at 100C is a very wide gap, which hints that some of the GPU is uncooled (eg. the paste got crusty or something), a repaste should help. This is what my 4080S looks like (although it's a very different GPU ofc)

sly chasm
limpid dune
#

and this is what my 4080S looked like with the messed up OEM paste 😅

fleet raft
#

I know nothing about android under the hood and I saw a pop-up I've never seen before

#

stock pixel 8 pro settings app says "can't communicate with (ipv6 address)" any ideas what that is?

sly chasm
ivory mountain
#

FSR stroking out as usual

limpid dune
#

CPU actually looks alright, 70C on what looks like a ryzen 9 is pretty good actually, mine is hotter 😅

sly chasm
#

so i'm starting to belive my power supply is why im crashing because it doesnt happen on a seperated cpu+ram and gpu test but if i combine them it crashes immediatly

#

thats the temps running a cpu ram test

ivory mountain
#

havent heard of that anime in a while

limpid dune
#

For some reason, sometimes the motherboard can cause problems with the 5V/3.3V rail 🤷‍♂️

sly chasm
#

not a 4th motherboard

#

ive been through 3 already

azure topaz
#

what unit?

limpid dune
# sly chasm

@azure topaz check out her 5V and 3.3V rail in this graph

sly chasm
azure topaz
#

its not within spec

swift moss
azure topaz
#

so, yeah, replace the psu

limpid dune
#

hear ye hear ye, we shall consule ye excel spreadsheet of greatness

azure topaz
#

3.14 is the spec minimum of 3.3 rail

#

probably turning off cause uvp on one of the minor rails

#

so yeah replace it

swift moss
limpid dune
#

yeah, this is not +/- 5%

azure topaz
#

youre also hardly within the 5v spec

#

so yeah the unit is just bad atp

limpid dune
# swift moss

not a Forza expert but I feel like the car is supposed to stay on the road? maybe I'm just old fashioned

sly chasm
swift moss
azure topaz
#

the wattage capacity isnt why it failed, so no

swift moss
azure topaz
#

if you want to get a high power unit in hopes of it lasting longer do that thtats fine

#

i typically dont buy under 1000w, but i also buy used power supplies cause im a freak so dont listen to me

swift moss
proper gull
limpid dune
#

@vale briar Try running OCCT with your benchmarks and send us its values for the GPU. Also what CPU/GPU, what benchmark, etc

gray sierra
swift moss
gray sierra
#

duck_walk sup

swift moss
#

ciao

gray sierra
#

bonjournooo

swift moss
#

i'm lowk knees deep in work lol

gray sierra
#

what work

swift moss
#

took 5 minutes out of my day to goof around on fh6

gray sierra
#

is it good

swift moss
swift moss
gray sierra
#

i mean

#

i expcetd that

languid isle
#

just got my upgrade y'all

||RTX 3060 > RTX 5070 12GB||

hexed tapir
#

Happy you didn't get a 5060ti 16gb PES2_Pray

languid isle
#

I was thinking abt the 5060

#

but they were both basically the same price

hexed tapir
#

5070 has way more raw powa

stray portal
#

Holy shit, i might be changing my monitor soon and i have to redo all my cable management 😭 😭

hexed tapir
languid isle
#

£540

#

and bru

it drops the next day (in my current situation I could really use that extra £30)

stray portal
#

Worst part about cable management ngl

hexed tapir
stray portal
#

Huh no way usd is so bad now

limpid dune
#

yesterday I was trying to benchmark Linux RT performance and I kinda realized... I don't play any RT games 😅

...except for Indiana Jones ATGC, CyberPunk, and War Thunder, there really arn't many games that actually use RT in the big 26

hexed tapir
stray portal
hexed tapir
stray portal
#

Imo ray tracing sometimes looks worse

limpid dune
# hexed tapir With Linux you can run Indiana Jones without raytracing

I took my RX 6600, disabled the hardware RT unit, and used the RADV_EXPERIMENTAL=emulate_rt emulated raytracing option and... it only lost like 10% performance, it actually worked just fine. So I did some more reading through AMD's docs and it turns out that, on RDNA 2&3, raytracing is pretty much 90% emulated anyway, so removing the RT unit only actually changes the way VP_INTERSECT is handled 🤣

the extra funny part: turns out that the RX 5700XT has faster emulated raytracing than the 2050Ti hardware raytracing lmfao

ivory mountain
hexed tapir
sly chasm
limpid dune
#

the 5-ish volt rail

sly chasm
#

more like 4 and a half

limpid dune
#

the 5V rail (80% cash, 20% shares)

#

just DLSS an extra 0.4V onto that rail

sly chasm
#

ay that will do it

#

whats the amd version of that

languid isle
# hexed tapir Yeah..

isnt it just a conversion tho? aren't you still technically paying the same price just in a different currency

unless the 5070 is actually $800-$900. then thats like £6-700 (sry for u know what)

limpid dune
sly chasm
#

lol

hexed tapir
nimble burrow
#

anyone know what burn prevention stuff the hp omen transcend 14 has?

sharp ivy
languid isle
#

I was going to try running the 3060 as well for my two side monitors and the encoder/decoder for obs, but games kept using the 3060, and I didn't know what to do

sharp ivy
#

I think it's a setting in Nvidia app?

#

I know there's a graphics priority setting in windows

civic patrol
#

hey y'all, I've been stimming over these 40-60usd portable monitors and want to buy more for display boards home assistant etc, I was wondering if anyone is familiar or knows of any writeups that compare specs of all the different brands. There are a ton of choice from 40-80usd I got this one but I wanna compile the best choices in each price range or ref a good list https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B9NNWXVP?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

languid isle
#

currently overclocking this badboi

jovial jasper
#

Nord VPN might leave Canada if Bill C-22 passes. Due to the bill requiring the capture of logs

unborn oyster
#

trying to set custom res using CRU, but its not letting me use the full refresh rate, only below 199HZ works, any solutions/reasons why?

limpid dune
unborn oyster
#

well I can create it at 60hz in CRU, and then change to 240hz in the display settings, so i guess that works

empty quartz
#

My mom once threw a shoe at me, and i slept through it

tidal geyser
#

xd im following some game i guess modding tutorial and they are just using a cracked version of the game

empty quartz
#

ayo

limpid ivy
#

My grandma does this and barges into my room if I’m sleeping past noon

#

And not just a simple barge but a full on door kick

limpid ivy
empty quartz
#

L

limpid ivy
#

Still lasting a whole day so that’s fine

empty quartz
#

@limpid ivy checkmate

limpid ivy
#

Right now not so much

#

Race weekends=rip battery life

tired bear
empty quartz
tired bear
#

if you have apple care i assume

empty quartz
#

nope

#

you dont need applecare to get your iphone serviced

#

it costs less with applecare, but otherwise doesnt matter if you have it or not

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apple may have abhorrent pricing without applecare when it comes to broken laptop displays, but they're not entirely scumbags

tired bear
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i wanna see how phones will look when new battery regulations kick in

empty quartz
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i hope apple says fuck you to the eu, and stops selling phones there

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i prefer a water resistant phone

south arrow
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Most agro ive ever seen ace heart2

tired bear
empty quartz
empty quartz
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(exxageration, but i dont care)

south arrow
empty quartz
tired bear
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ip67 while new iphones have 68

empty quartz
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even freshwater

tired bear
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macbook neo is new rule compliant (except pentalobe screws) and no one is complaining

empty quartz
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has a metal panel

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i dont understand why people hate on apples non genuine part warning tbh

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how else would you know if you're getting screwed over by a repair shop

tired bear
empty quartz
tired bear
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ik

south arrow
empty quartz
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last time i had a 3rd party repair, they charged the same price as the apple store would've charged, and they gave me a non genuine screen, and an aftermarket battery

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the non genuine screen looked like absolute shit and had issues not even 20 seconds after i got the device back

tired bear
boreal elbow
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Just installed this motherboard can anyone tell me y it's taking between 1-7 minutes to enter the bios

ionic ember
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memory training perhaps

gleaming rose
pulsar root
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Visually what’s the best graphics card ever made?

ionic ember
sleek ibex
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That is very subjective

ionic ember
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if so, the yeston husbando gpu

sleek ibex
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Though if I were to choose

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I do dig the look of those Titan cards with that Gold Rose finish

ionic ember
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any gpu company that puts cool graphics beyond different styles of their logo on their cards is cool to me

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looking at you asus

sleek ibex
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Oh the ones who made the Ishtar Gate GPU

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Or as it's officially called "Astral Dhahab"

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Dhahab is Arabic for "gold"

ionic ember
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of course asus would make a gold gpu for the saudis

sleek ibex
sleek ibex
ionic ember
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it can't be for any reason other than the saudis

sleek ibex
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Damn Khaleejis

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Us Levantines/Mesopotamians can't have shit

pulsar root
ionic ember
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the yeston husbando gpu

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say what you will about yeston but at least their designs have personality

sleek ibex
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I remember when everyone in the mid 2000s were doing this (albeit it was on blower style shrouds)

ionic ember
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yeah they should start doing that again