tech-chat-1

[mortal plume]

hey chat would it be possible to send someone a full vpn package fully downloaded not the installer? my friend's in the uk and her provider is literally blocking the installer from functioning same with the website and it's only an issue on pc for her

[kindred halo]

If it's $100 then that's my entire standard salary

[mortal plume]

her phone can run a vpn fine but her pc literally blocks any vpn site and installer

[kindred halo]

¼ or ⅔ my salary if I am getting extra pay

[median warren]

I knew it

I should have placed a bet

[deep musk]

Oof

[deep musk]

Yeah, when it’s from a trans puppygirl, it’s very often too nsfw for public chats

[median warren]

Tis discord after all

[deep musk]

Yeah that too x3

[empty quartz]

mrrp :3

[kindred halo]

Mrrreeeooow

[deep musk]

Arf arf

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tail-wag-tail-wagging-tail-puppy-gif-15072456614447568043

[median warren]

What is going on in this chat

Sigh

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dangoheart-dango-heart-minecraft-puppy-dog-gif-6758323516366007076

[azure topaz]

if it’s blocking the site it’ll probably also block their servers which is a fancy way of saying it won’t work

[mortal plume]

so there's no way to send the fully installed version with all the files and only an installer will make it work

that blows, so does the uk

actual surveilance state

[deep musk]

She can burn the isp offices. Anarchy!!!!!

[median warren]

What? I've never heard of an internet provider blocking VPNs

I'm in the UK

[mortal plume]

yeah there's a law that lets them do that

[deep musk]

(“For legal reasons this is a joke”)

[mortal plume]

some are more trigger happy than others about it

[median warren]

Which provider is she with

[mortal plume]

most just block the big ones but virgin apparently blocked mullvad

she managed to find a workaround tho fortunately

[median warren]

I am currently with Virgin and I've used nordvpn and proton before with them, those worked fine

[mortal plume]

well that's fucked

[deep musk]

ISP can basically block what ever they want if they stated that they have that right in the contracts

[median warren]

And continue to

[mortal plume]

either way she got it fixed fortunately

[median warren]

Yeah makes sense

[mortal plume]

and the uk is still trying whatever they can to outright ban them

[median warren]

You can always download it with a hotspot through mobile data

[deep musk]

She can still go and burn down their buildings

[mortal plume]

nah didn't work either oddly enough

[median warren]

There's always going to be a work around

Also there's routers with built in vpns

[deep musk]

Burning the buildings!!!!!!!!!!!

[mortal plume]

had to fuck around with wifi adapter properties

[median warren]

That you can buy

[median warren]

Yeah oh no

[deep musk]

That’s not an isp related issue

[mortal plume]

yea ig not in this case

[median warren]

Proton VPN has a setting called stealth which helps bypass VPN blockers

[mortal plume]

that was the main reason for it not working that kept showing up tho

either way good news it's fixed, bad news is uk still sucks despite that

it is what it is

[deep musk]

helps (these technologies are really good but they can always be detected one way or another)

[median warren]

Indeed

Use Linux GG

[flat cliff]

How much does thinking influence token usage? I was using DeepSeek with Ollama but then they nerfed free plan (supposedly until more capacity is added) to make priority for paid users. Now I am using a different model and idk if its because it has ri think now if DeeoSeek was well optimized or something but I'm blowing through a lot more tokens and usage now. I went a week with good heavy use and didn't run out of tokens now its gonna be 2-3 days maybe 4 at most if that even and I'm gonna run out again and for the first time I do worry about my session limits per few hours running out as well. Not sure what models to use or switch to and trying to keep my token usage to a minimum.

[median warren]

you know what helps even more? Getting your own 3rd party router

So you make it much harder

[deep musk]

Yes, like me, but you’re still limited by your isp’s restrictions

[median warren]

Definitely helps you fight back tho

Gives you more privacy that's for sure

[deep musk]

Yes but still not that much better, mostly give you better control over the hardware

[deep musk]

Meh, depends

[median warren]

Custom DNS server, 3rd party router, VPN, firewalla, Linux, tor browser

I'll do what I must

[deep musk]

Yes but your traffic still goes through your isp one way or another

[median warren]

At least I can mask it

Or use those things which spew out random traffic

Mix my traffic with random traffic and mask it

Fuck it develop your own internet provider company

[deep musk]

(Good luck, wouldn’t be that difficult but you would need to buy your own ip address)

[median warren]

Money

Gimme

[deep musk]

They are really expensive and no one wants to sell them unfortunately

[median warren]

You know, I bet there's a price they'd sell it to you for

A couple of billions, I think they'd budge

[elder quarry]

Obfs4

[deep musk]

Yeah, but that’s basically impossible to do, cause multiple times they’ll force you to get moar than one at a time

[median warren]

Grrrr

[median warren]

Thank you kind sir

[native path]

thats if you can install it, from what im reading in this chat they can't even get proton in

[native path]

could she tether her phone's data to her computer and use a hotspot with her mobile data?

[median warren]

Yeah, Ive got it installed thankfully but yeah they struggled to

[rocky pewter]

what games can i play on this setup? core 2 duo e6400, gt 740 evga (good airflow), 8 gb memory

ive mainly played team fortress 2 and dota 2

[deep musk]

Amazing retro gaming setup

[empty quartz]

Retro games? Yes
Anything newer than 2019? No

You might get away with 2016 and newer games, but that gpu is a major limit

[steel umbra]

battlefield 1 on low

[coarse grotto]

RTCW:ET (pro) 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUyl3AmIz2Q

[sturdy harness]

I need help
I tried manual updating my truenas scale to a version that supports 10 series gpu with a GitHub mod
And now my NAS is not booting and stuck at VGA during post
Even after I remove the gpu from my system
My CPU has a built in iGPU
Tried cold boot tried clearing cmos

[deep musk]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[haughty compass]

Trying premium gas for first time 🫨

Hoping to this actually helping with fuel economy

[grizzled frost]

only really helps if your car requires premium

also what the fuck, that’s what i pay for regular gas

[frigid blade]

Yah if your car doesn’t say that’s what it needs, waste of money

You might think it’s better fuel economy or something but it’s placebo

[balmy sphinx]

My psvr is very happy right now

[rose sorrel]

Why does my phone get hot when I use fast charger ?

[brave sonnet]

Like my sleeper?

[left dove]

electromagnetism and inefficiency loss as heat

[wet ember]

What adapter do I need to use this ancient keyboard with my computer

[frigid blade]

Looks like a ps2 connector

[pulsar root]

Why do people care about AI being in video games?

[frigid blade]

Actually maybe not

Idk if that nudge is normal on them

Show the pins, top down view

[left dove]

its ps/2.

[frigid blade]

AI slop

[left dove]

you can get adapters very cheaply

[frigid blade]

Literally $2 on aliexpress probably less

[wet ember]

Would the keyboard even work with modern PCs

[left dove]

yes

[azure topaz]

my board even has a port

and its brand spankin new

[haughty compass]

My car recommends premium but I've always gotten 87

[wet ember]

My cars minimum octane rating is 91

I put 93 in it

Putting 87 in it is not that big a deal as long as your knock sensors are working

[frigid blade]

Waste of money then to put 93

[wet ember]

The station had either 87 or 93

[frigid blade]

Ah ok

Thats dumb lol

[haughty compass]

East coast has 93 while west coast has 91

[frigid blade]

It seems like more and more modern cars are getting separate fuel economy tests and values so you can choose between them

[haughty compass]

Only few places have both

[wet ember]

Putting lower octane fuel results in poorer fuel economy because the ECU is setting back the ignition timing which decreases power

[solemn tendon]

is there an actually decent in windows partition manager that doesn't want money from me

[empty quartz]

Today i learned the apple studio display xdr has as much ram and storage than alot of peoples phones

Its also powerful enough to even run cyberpunk 2077 on its own 💀

@frigid blade

[frigid blade]

How much

[empty quartz]

12gb of ram, 128gb of storage, apple a19 pro

[frigid blade]

Bruh

[vital gyro]

Forgot Discord organized images like that. Gonna edit them with numbers

1 2 or 3

[vital gyro]

I'm actually trying to compare the 3 without any sort of bias.

Which is why I omitted data.

[vapid ibex]

2 is best

Hands down

[vital gyro]

I think 3 is the worst.

[vapid ibex]

3 is washed out

2 is honey money

[vital gyro]

That's what you get with budget VAs.

[vapid ibex]

What display is that

[vapid ibex]

I mean... Just up the vibrancy ngl

[vital gyro]

1 is a 21.5" iMac (not the 4K version sadly, 1080P), 2 is an Acer Nitro 27" (1080P 165Hz), 3 is an MSI MAG 27CQ-6F.

There is a "better mode" on the MSI, but that almost looks too vibrant in a lot of situations (looks like max gamma on an HDTV from 2008 if you know what I mean).

It's also way sharper with that mode enabled.

[vapid ibex]

Acer

iMac backlight bleed

[plain cypress]

1 has terrible blacks

Uhhh 2 has more pleasant colors

[plain cypress]

Yeah the non retina iMac is a rather unimpressive display

[vital gyro]

It's definitely better in person with the brightness turned down though. Still not as good as 2, but much closer.

[sage ocean]

anyone know why im getting this?

[vapid ibex]

You have been compromised

Celestial life is invading

Nah jk try another browser like it says

[sage ocean]

im using firefox it should work

[formal sonnet]

You likely have some kind of script blocker, anonymizer, or an add-on that's messing with CloudFlare's anti-bot system. Could be as simple as tightening up the built-in privacy settings or disabling certain JavaScript settings. If it works in another browser, you'll know it's Firefox.

[sage ocean]

It works fine in Microslop ForcedBrowser™

[formal sonnet]

Not sure what that is but okay. Anyway, that proves you've modified Firefox from its default state. You'll have to find out what exactly what changed / added / removed and then undo that if you want to pass CloudFlare bot checks.

[vital gyro]

I wonder if it's one of those weird sites that only likes chromium-based browsers.

Also, try opening the website in Private Mode (disables all extensions etc.)

[formal sonnet]

Could be. I know CloudFlare lets you specifically target User Agent strings (in addition to a bunch of other identifiers), so one could make it so that Safari browser users must complete a captcha whilst all other browsers can sail right through the check.

[sage ocean]

if cloudflare breaks from having PrivacyBadger running then maybe I should stop giving these website makers my visit

[formal sonnet]

Conversely, if Privacy Badger prevents CloudFlare anti-bot verification from working, the website admins could argue you're not allowed to visit their site. 🤔

To be clear, I'm not for or against whatever your or anyone else's preferences are - I'm just telling it like it is, that's all. Website admins have a ton of tools at their disposal... Sometimes they need them to prevent DDoS attacks, which in turn sometimes also means you can't access the site if you disable scripts or block elements on the page, for example.

[sage ocean]

maybe im not allowed to visit if im not giving them my personal data

just like some websites now want to make you pay to reject cookies

you will own nothing and be happy type shit

[formal sonnet]

Yep. Enshittification is here to stay unfortunately.

[sage ocean]

the enshittification of Mozilla has me getting ready to pack my bags, but probably to a fork or something, since Gecko is like the only option that isnt Chromium Based

[vital gyro]

Too bad Safari is the only purely-WebKit browser that exists on computers (I specified PCs/Macs because the PS4's browser was also webkit)

[sage ocean]

I also love how website makers that have site features that only support chromium tell me to use a different browser to continue like lmao no im just gonna close your site and never visit again

[fringe prairie]

gnome web does exist. linux only though

uses webkitgtk

[granite comet]

looking for a cheap (500-800$) small, slim, and long battery life laptop. Currently looking at an ideapad with an 8845hs for 450, but i figured id ask for recommendations here

would LOVE a thinkpad, but 7840/8840 thinkpads are crazy pricey

i cant do gamery stuff. Ive gotta take this to work so no rgb and gamery logos

[sinful cobalt]

a hs series is NOT good battery life trust me

[bold olive]

cookie clicker on a server seems like a good place to game without being caught

[sinful cobalt]

if anything you should grab a wildcat lake chip

[granite comet]

better than my other options at this pricepoint

[stray portal]

Narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean causing a commotion cuz they are so awesome

[native path]

jayden daniels man so inspirational

[supple basin]

battery life go 8840u or Ryzen 7 250 if looking Ryzen

[restive plinth]

Browser not supported

[gaunt spade]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-cat-lol-gif-7440154390406958397

[native path]

supporting what kirashi said but it looks like a modified version of a browser (in your case firefox), website makers disable some user agents for security sake

[fallow yacht]

sup nerds

[dusk acorn]

I see this asus swift pg27aqdp for sale from 1399 to 899. Should ai grab it or should I wait for the gigabyte mo27q28gr?

[stray portal]

what website is this and what browser

[sage ocean]

seeds.gg on firefox

[stray portal]

normal firefox or hardened?

[sage ocean]

wym hardened

[stray portal]

modified

for privacy resasons

[sage ocean]

I have like a few extensions like UBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Canvas Blocker, NoScript etc

but nothing too like major

[stray plinth]

i have a job interview on monday and im thinking of getting this psu with my first couple of pays, is it good? it will be powering a ryzen 5 3600 and an asus prime b450m-a and eventually an rtx 5060

[stray portal]

maybe its a shitty website and doesnt support firefox

[vapid moon]

What cable do I use for the gpu, I’m kinda confused on the one that came with the gpu on the other end of it is 3 heads of 8 pin connector

[sinful cobalt]

what card is it

[vapid moon]

9070xt nitro+

And Super Flower Leadex III 1000W ATX3.1 Gold psu

[sinful cobalt]

wait no

[sinful cobalt]

use the pure black one

i thought that was a 8pin xd

[vapid moon]

12pin

[sinful cobalt]

use the one that plugs directly into the psu

[vapid moon]

So it’s that little cable that powers the gpu? Why have I seen people connect a huge cable to the gpu then?

[sinful cobalt]

what huge

you mean those that are rgb flashbangs?

[vapid moon]

I think so

Some of them aren’t rgb

[sinful cobalt]

those are exagerative and useless

tiktok cable

[vapid moon]

Ah I see

Well both of these cables are 12pin but the one that came with the gpu has a different connector in the end

[sinful cobalt]

thats the adapter
the best measure is using the one from the PSU

[vapid moon]

Alright thanks

Was I supposed to hear a click when plugging the 600W cable to the psu? The 12v 2x6

[sinful cobalt]

hear/feel

[vapid moon]

I don’t hear any click with that cable

Is that not all the way in? I’m using a quite a bit of force and I’m not sure if it can get any lower

[sinful cobalt]

yeah if you cant push further it should be in

[vapid moon]

But it does have a visible gap and it says to not have one

No?

[sinful cobalt]

that seems to be fine

[vapid moon]

So that’s the maximum that it can go in? Does it look like that for everyone?

[bold olive]

oof i type slower with my mechanical keyboard

maybe its the high profile that i just cant get used to

i always keep pressing other keys

cuz of how wobbly it is

[teal sphinx]

i am trying tasker with the free trial, it's not going well, kinda shit

compared to automate and macrodroid a lot of things doesn't work out of the box. and you would need to download extra plugin which cost more money

however powerful it could be, i just can't get some of the features to work, and the developer basically just said it's what it's because of the restriction of xiaomi having on their device. but i know it could work because it worked on macrodroid

[brave brook]

are you sure you aren't plugging it other way around ? I mean isn't that the GPU side plug ?

[vapid ibex]

What the hell did you download

Or is this a custom ROM

[teal sphinx]

pardon me

[vapid moon]

Yeah it’s the correct way both of the sides are the same

[teal sphinx]

the auto correct auto corrected tasker into tasking

[vapid ibex]

What is tasker lol

[teal sphinx]

automation app for android

[brave brook]

is the 600W label on both sides ? Because to me it looks that side should be on the GFPU side

[vapid ibex]

Why use that

[vapid moon]

Yes it’s labeled 600W on both sides and both sides have the same connector

[teal sphinx]

to automate some tasks

[vapid ibex]

If u do use it free is always an option

Ifykyk

[brave brook]

i would say it is not plugged in fully, but it's your PC/house to burn down /s

[vapid moon]

Does it always look like that for every one or is it fully inside?

[brave brook]

i don't have superflower PSU, but yes, on every PSU i had it had to go all the way inside

[solemn pewter]

Tasker is massively overrated.

[teal sphinx]

sadly i can't get write secure settings to work on tasker

i need that

other ig while people complain about it's very difficult to use, it's actually fine for me

[wheat torrent]

RTX 6000 q3?

Predictions?

[solemn pewter]

Why predict when you can be patient and have real information?

[brave brook]

predict what ?

RTX6000 is already a thing 😄

[wheat torrent]

So life more fun

[wheat torrent]

Not blackwell

[brave brook]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/rtx-6000/

[wheat torrent]

Next gen.

[solemn pewter]

Ah, I apologize, I am not that dopamine starved

[wheat torrent]

No one cares about ada either

[brave brook]

so you say GeForce RTX6000 series. And no, i don't expect 6000 series before end of 2027 at all

[wheat torrent]

When was 5000 released let me see

Wait it was released in, 2025?

I thought it's been 3 years already bruh

Ok we have a long way to go then

[brave brook]

there were 2.5 years between 4000 and 5000 series. Now we have also the shortages. So late 2027, early 2028 is the most optimistic scenario

[wheat torrent]

I really thought it's been a lot longer

[wheat torrent]

At this rate we will be lucky if we even get super ti versions

I still remember people telling me to wait for 5000 ti super to release, exactly a year ago

They were saying it's only one month away!

[brave brook]

before NVIDIA got greedy, it would have been ~in 2-3 months from now (they usually had around 18-24 month cadence of releases). After 3000 series, whent hey realized they hit a goldmine with AI and stuff, they said screw you little guys

[wheat torrent]

Yeah fair enough its tough

[sinful cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343696552006520963/1345889957499244566/attachment-5.gif

[wheat torrent]

I wish doubling vram of existing GPUs were easier

[brave brook]

AI by itself is not an issue, but doing so at expense of smaller market is

[wheat torrent]

I was talking to this one guy the other day and he told me he was able to get 4090D 48gb easily

Just opened eBay and bought one

[junior valve]

those are common for chinese market

[wheat torrent]

Yeah but he's from US

not china

[junior valve]

ask chatgbt on how to buy stuff from china

[wheat torrent]

Lol

What I'm saying is he bought it easily from ebay

In US

If you go on eBay now there is plenty of offers

[sonic stag]

Man im working on some weird stuff

[eternal cloak]

It's also pretty easy to get those in the US lol

They're functionally 4080s with more VRAM, so idk how much they're worth it though

You can grab em off of ebay even, they're just $4000

[cinder rivet]

Can't get signal after bios update and new cpu

It's a b450m ds3h V2 on f67 bios

[wheat torrent]

Omgg

That's what I said 😭

Like 2 times

[dusky spindle]

did the bios update complete fully?

[vapid moon]

Is it fully in now?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[cinder rivet]

Yes

Now the original CPU won't boot too

[dusky spindle]

what cpu is it?

& have u tried to put it in a diff mobo?

[brave brook]

B450, so the old CPU support was probably removed by the update

[cinder rivet]

Rn I'm trying to get the old CPU, the 3400g, to boot but it wouldn't work

The new CPU the 5700x won't boot

So neither CPUs can work

[dusky spindle]

maybe new cpu is faulty and after bios update you cant test the old one because support is removed as parandroid said?

[cinder rivet]

This is ridiculous

Should be noted that after the bios install the old CPU did boot

[red light]

My home screen tablet

[tidal geyser]

eh i got a a320 that can do ryzen 1000 and ryzen 5000

but yea worth checking

[undone star]

kinda an odd question, but I need a camera to monitor remote equipment in my workshop, I only need maybe 1fps at maybe 720p tbh, could be REALLY low spec, but i want something that is lan enabled with no cloud nonsense and won't RAT my entire network if I connect it to wifi, is there a product that meets these needs for $20 or less?

I use I think wyze cams to monitor the exterior of my shop because i don't have to expose my data on the cloud, but that's a little pricey for a camera that just has to face a machine so i can do a quick "is it on fire or broken" check every hour or two

it also does not need sd card recording capability

[errant galleon]

Guys What is this port for?

[undone star]

is this below the port or for something else hidden behind that copper heatpipe

if it's below the port in question then it is likely for a wifi card

given that it is labeled WLAN(wireless local area network)

[errant galleon]

Oh shi i didnt notice that, Okayyy

Thanks for the headsup👌🏻

[undone star]

hard to tell from the angle, the WLAN label could be under something else

but if it's labeled wlan it's for wifi

[brave brook]

what laptop model it is ? But it is either for WiFi or mobile network modem (do you have a SIM card slot?)

[brave brook]

could be M.2 key E slot, but not 100% sure

(the one on the left)

[errant galleon]

I think yours is a M.2 sata ssd

Btw guys, Google says this is for 2280 but I think 2280 is too long

NVME*

[spring quail]

looks like 2280 to my eyes

[solemn tendon]

I;d say 2280 as well

[spring quail]

consult the manual

[solemn tendon]

what''s the pc model

easiest way to check

[low mortar]

is my monitor cooked

[solemn tendon]

did you bake it

[low mortar]

the bottom half is like flashing with black horizontal lines and it started out of nowhere

[solemn tendon]

tried reseating your display cables?

[low mortar]

yeah

[solemn tendon]

different input on the monitor?

[low mortar]

its display port

[solemn tendon]

is there only one display port on the monitor

[low mortar]

yeah

[solemn tendon]

that's unfortunate

[kindred halo]

Don't know if this is an IoT LTSC thing but my bloody Trackpoint works different now

Pressing the button between the trackpad's left and right click doesn't keep the cursor in place whilst scrolling up and down with the Trackpoint anymore

[deep musk]

Could be a driver issue

[kindred halo]

This might be better, idk

[kindred halo]

No it seems like an actual feature

It's showing me new symbols during it

[deep musk]

Ltsc shouldn’t be making a difference with how the hardware is working

[kindred halo]

Although Trackpoint scrolling doesn't work on anything that isn't chrome lmfao

[kindred halo]

Oh
I'll check for updates idk

[deep musk]

Ohh interesting, maybe the driver wasn’t installed on the previous installation

[kindred halo]

Hoooooly shit

[deep musk]

Might be a setting in the Lenovo app if there’s one

[kindred halo]

I've got like a dozen updates 😭

[deep musk]

Oof

[kindred halo]

I have a synaptics - mouse & Lenovo system driver update

Probably that

@plain cypress

:3

Lots of forums and videos on what to choose
Plus you're being way too general

[deep musk]

You’re the type of person that needs windows (allegedly) upcoming better update system

[kindred halo]

I just want to switch to Mint.. But it's still so annoying to use to a degree </3

[deep musk]

What do you need it for? which currency? (And don’t say “dollars”) which features do you want/need?

[kindred halo]

You quite literally said
"Best laptop under 1400 dollars"

You could be in the US, Canada, Malaysia

That dollars could be USD, CAD, AUS

You could need a professional or a gaming laptop

What you sent is quite literally what someone would type into Google

So, please, be more specific
What exact currency, where you're from, and what're your use cases

[deep musk]

My grandma is using mint on her t430 :3, she’s pretty happy with it (but when you have to use windows stuff like the office suit it is annoying)

[kindred halo]

LibreOffice could work but atp it's just too much of a hassle to try and install it - mostly because I am so tired of installing and updating 💔

Going to let Windows update itself for now

What sort of work are you doing

Yeah but what sort of work

[deep musk]

Yeah, I get you, I was on a 10mb/s connection at home before we finally upgraded to 500mb/s

[kindred halo]

Are you going to use Microsoft Office only or something that actually needs to be $1400

Assuming that's USD and not CAD or AUS

[deep musk]

@spark tusk

[solid quail]

hmmm, I noticed that 4GB DDR4 dimms are still somewhat cheap

like 10€ per stick cheap

[deep musk]

You’ll max out at 16gb on a typical consumer mobo

And the speed might be atrocious

Worth the gamble in my opinion

[kindred halo]

You can still get like, 2x8 2666 for around the price that 4x4 would cost

[solid quail]

I need to put together a secondary rig and I really don't feel like pairing any of my other 2X8 kits with a 9600K

[kindred halo]

Mmmm
Fair enough

[solid quail]

And also 2400mhz is fine for such CPU. Based on my testing 9th gen did not really dislike slower memory the way ryzen does

the online marketplaces are full of these

where as 2x8 even at 2666mhz is around 100

[kindred halo]

Honestly
Worth

You can probably OC them manually to 2666-3000 too

[deep musk]

Yep, really worth it

[kindred halo]

Corsair Vengeance kits will probably do 3000 easy lol

[solid quail]

I'm starting a new job in a few weeks so I'll have some extra. Really considering on spending maybe like 80€ for some of those kits

[low mortar]

i could return it and get my money back, what do i get for 400 dollars

[solid quail]

it's good to have some at hand

especially with all the projects I have

[kindred halo]

4 kits of 2x8?

For €80?

That's honestly good to a degree tbh

[deep musk]

Which currency (and no, “dollars” isn’t a currency)?

[solid quail]

2x4*

[kindred halo]

Oh oops

[solid quail]

2x8 are like 80€ per kit

[low mortar]

$400-450

[kindred halo]

That's a pretty stupid markup
But, oh well

[low mortar]

us dala

[deep musk]

Oh oki

[kindred halo]

US Dollary Doos

[low mortar]

so whats good around the 400-450 range? looking for a gaming monitor with decent colors

[deep musk]

I have a sceptre 24” 1080p 144hz monitor that I absolutely love (curved too) it’s in your price range, let me try to find it)

[low mortar]

so uh my second monitor is a curved 165hz 1080p 24.5"

[kindred halo]

Googled their 24in 1080p offerings, they look pretty good tbh

[sinful cobalt]

stone age resolution

[low mortar]

yeah

[hexed sage]

I forgot I was good at cooking 😭

[fierce raven]

i just switched to a 1440p monitor

[sinful cobalt]

1440p is also an ancient resolution from the zhang dynasty

[low mortar]

4k resolution is propaganda

[fierce raven]

i also upgraded to qd-oled

[sinful cobalt]

4k is the modern standard and 5K is up next

[calm idol]

modern standard for tv's. not monitors

[long cradle]

I'm curious, does this cooler still work well in a pull configuration? A lot of people said to me "You're cooler is installed wrong"

[sinful cobalt]

nah bro keep coping on your dinosaur age 1440p resolution

[low mortar]

setsuna got his first 4k monitor and now his ego is through the roof lul

[sinful cobalt]

i was using DSR 4k on my 1440p panel back then

[pulsar root]

And why do people dislike AI slop if they can’t tell if it was made by AI?

If the companies just didn’t reveal something was made by AI, no one would have an issue with it

[cinder rivet]

I have to get a new motherboard

So should I get a b550m pro v dh WiFi or a b550 aorus elite ax v2

[low mortar]

ai slop means that something is clearly ai

[pulsar root]

No way someone was able to tell this was made by AI

[robust trail]

that doesn't look like it was made my AI, it looks like it is rendered by a game engine

[sinful cobalt]

the one that is cheaper and has the IO you want

[worn willow]

Ai girl ?

[cinder rivet]

The b550m is cheaper by 100 but doesn't come with an extra pcie for lossless scaling

[sinful cobalt]

needing lossless scaling to do what you want is lowk skill issue

[cinder rivet]

Yeah but it's cool rocking dual gpus

[pulsar root]

You couldn’t even tell it was the art what was AI generated

[worn willow]

She looks like 20 yr old from the

[sinful cobalt]

in the game lore diana is literally an AI anyway

[worn willow]

Idk

[worn willow]

Atleast she isnt a baby in jar like the other game

[low mortar]

its a very simple drawing its very easy for an ai to make it

[pulsar root]

Yeah but why does it matter whether AI made it or not ? It looks fine

[rose stream]

It would've got it wrong anyway. Lol

[pulsar root]

If there were random text gibberish then it would make sense to blame AI

[low mortar]

no?

[cold frost]

Samsung Odyssey G3 LS24DG302EUXXU 24" 180Hz 1ms FullHD Gaming Monitor - 1920x1080, HDR10, HDMI, Displayport, Freesync, Height Adjust
https://amzn.eu/d/0egdrQ04

[robust trail]

Microsoft invests in OpenAI. I use Codex desktop to gut windows services and telemetry. The circle of life.

[cold frost]

What makes this monitor so cheap?

The specs sound like it should be a lot more expensive

[deep musk]

Too “precise” for a kid’s drawing

[worn willow]

Can be ai generated

[deep musk]

The stars are way too well done and there’s some kind of perspective with the rectangles around the drawn character for it to be made by a kid of that age (I was a summer camp animator, I’ve seen plenty enough of drawings made by kids around that age)

And there are some kids that draw really well but it’s really rare

[sinful cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343696552006520963/1345889957499244566/attachment-5.gif

[pulsar root]

Isn’t Diana an AI anyways

[deep musk]

Yes, and?

[pulsar root]

an AI making AI generated art seems appropriate for the character?

[deep musk]

Yes, and? I don’t see what it has to do with the drawing being made by an ai (in the real world)?

[rose stream]

I agree with that honestly.
There are certain details that an AI will do too well to match what it was asked to portray.

[pulsar root]

so if AI did it well would there still be a problem?

[rose stream]

It looks like a copy+paste.

[worn willow]

Couldnt they hire a kid to draw it

[deep musk]

Yes, wasting fish’s water

[rose stream]

Or do it themselves with a pencil and paper. Lol.

[sinful cobalt]

nah in a way how they did the AI drawings with diana its a passionate thing

[stark flicker]

I may be dumb but I don't understand how using water to cool datacenters is an ecological problem

The used water will just go back in the nature no? It's not polluted in any way to my understanding

The ecological problem to my understanding would be more like the insane energy required to run them and thus the pollution created

[deep musk]

(The clouds move and said water will only potentially come back in a very long time)

[robust trail]

Old datacenters use evaporative cooling to deal with heat. New datacenters recycle water and use heat exchangers. The ecological problem is that evap cooling pumps shitloads of water and dumps it into atmosphere.

[stark flicker]

Yeah but does it take that long to come back for it to become a problem?

[robust trail]

If only people realized how much water is wasted by the massive amount of ethanol corn corps the US grows. The estimate is in the 10s of billions of gallons of water every day.

[stark flicker]

Also if new datacenters don't do that then it's not really a problem anymore?

[deep musk]

And in the majority of the world, electricity is produced with focile fuel and charcoal

[robust trail]

People latch on the to absolute worst secenario without educating themselves

[stark flicker]

Yeah the energy part is what I always think about indeed

[robust trail]

the energy part is the problem. The water part is... also a problem but extremely overblown due to media coverage/ragebait

[rose stream]

Really, I feel that just the combination of everything is the problem, not any singular thing happening.

[stark flicker]

Do we know how much kwh is used when asking say one question to chatgpt?

[deep musk]

(If you use beetroots instead the whole thing is more eco friendly since the beetroots capts more co2 than burning it’s ethanol produces)

[kindred halo]

VA Panel

[robust trail]

very little power. If you're asking it to freewheel for 24 hours than probably 24kwh

[stark flicker]

Yeah ok

[robust trail]

but then multiply that by however many questions are being asked

[kindred halo]

It's around the price you should expect a VA gaming monitor

[robust trail]

get rid of the crops all together and plant solar panels instead

https://klipy.com/gifs/math-correct--k01KR6E05PYVDFREAT90FWCVGM5

[stark flicker]

Yeah who needs food

[robust trail]

we don't eat that corn.

[stark flicker]

What

[robust trail]

it is grown to be turned into ethanol to be put in your car

[stark flicker]

Oh yeah biofuel

"bio"

[robust trail]

extremely little corn is actually grown for food

[stark flicker]

When you could eat the corn, get calories, take a bike and here we go, biofuel

[deep musk]

Beetroots also uses much less water than corn (iirc)

[robust trail]

turn the human poo into biofuel 😄

[stark flicker]

[robust trail]

farmers would be way better off if they invested in a massive solar array

and they wouldn't have to farm.

[rose stream]

Could, especially for grid energy.

[robust trail]

they would have passive income

[kindred halo]

Also don't data centres just use a stupid amount of electricity

iirc the average data centre uses enough power to almost match the output of a single RBMK Reactor identical to the one in the Chornobyl plant

[clear canyon]

Brother what

[robust trail]

at some point there will be a fusion reactor for every datacenter. Hopefully before I shit the bed

[rose stream]

Not really. Some of them actually live off their crops and livestock, and that food has to come from somewhere.

[stark flicker]

You are hopeful mol

[deep musk]

That corn isn’t good for us (and also, corn as a food is wasteful, your body can’t process the outer shell)

[deep musk]

Yes

[deep musk]

Someone saw technology connection’s marvellous video?

[rose stream]

At least we can grow other crops for food, though we'd probably be doing it at lower volumes.

[deep musk]

(It’s really good)

[deep musk]

Indeed

[robust trail]

I have been into clean energy since I was a child

there's a youtubes with this info? Is it good?

[deep musk]

Same but he made a really good explanatory video about solar panels fields

[robust trail]

oh shit

I will googles

My neighbors are like "You know those solar panels will never pay for themselves."

[deep musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

This one

[robust trail]

bitch, how much u payin gas right now? Cause I ain't paying anything to charge my truck AND my house is almost independant from grid power

https://tenor.com/view/take-that-thats-right-get-it-what-gif-14099219

[kindred halo]

No to mention the resulting light and earth population

[deep musk]

Watch the video till the end before showing it to them, trust me there’s a very good reason

[robust trail]

Firing up

[deep musk]

Yeshshshshsh

[robust trail]

now I have to see the end of it first

[rose stream]

Really what we need is more gardens for growing food than massive industrial farms, unless for cotton and such.

[stark flicker]

Do you have a really short tldr? I can't watch

[kindred halo]

Speaking of renewable energy I kinda want to do silly shit like install small solar cells on everything

[deep musk]

Solar panels= good and much much better than crop fields on various points (it’s been a while so I don’t 100% remember which ones) and then he goes on a very good and important political rant about solar power

[kindred halo]

Like, as small as the ones on calculators or such

Or small cells that you see on larger panels

[deep musk]

(Sometimes these are fake unfortunately🤦‍♀️ (facepalming towards the stupid concept of putting fake solar panels on calculators))

[kindred halo]

Aw

Well atleast the ones on Casio calculators are real

I own one from some brand named "Unit" though

[deep musk]

nuke type of a rant @stark flicker

[stark flicker]

OK yeah

[kindred halo]

@deep musk Thinking of something silly like putting a solar panel on a car and connecting it to a small hybrid inverter which then connects to a battery

[deep musk]

Ohhh nicey cars uses dc tho so no need for an inverter (iirc solar generates dc)

[kindred halo]

Oh no I am not talking about connecting it directly to the car's battery

But to a separate battery

Maybe something like a 12V 50Ah or 100Ah

With a basic UPS system connected to it, would let me plug something into it whenever needed

[deep musk]

Ohhh (still having an inverter would add more losses since you would still need to convert it back to dc)

[kindred halo]

Oh
So I can just.. Directly connect it all to the battery?

Or should it go through the UPS first

[deep musk]

(To charge said battery)

[kindred halo]

Also I am pretty sure it's not called a UPS, the system that handles all this
I just don't know its name in English

[deep musk]

With a dc battery management system and charger

[kindred halo]

Everyone just calls it a UPS

[deep musk]

Dc -> ac is an inverter

[kindred halo]

Oh
Yeah fair enough

Would only be needed for powering a home

Bweh I should probably cut the discussion here since I am talking about things I can only do when I am an adult lmao

[ionic peak]

Did you got the laptop?

[kindred halo]

Yeah!!

[ionic peak]

How is it?

[kindred halo]

Laptop is good, Windows is not

[ionic peak]

11 or 10?

[kindred halo]

11

Enterprise IoT LTSC

[grizzled frost]

#1027757333117415424

[whole citrus]

mb

[sinful cobalt]

my friend is at the point where he’s considering a 5070Ti laptop with 16gb ram 💀

[kindred halo]

What 😭

[sinful cobalt]

5050/5060 laptop is 2.2k region mainly with the 14700HX config while the 2.7k 5070ti 16gb ram has a 275HX

SGD*

thankfully ram isnt soldered but its a bugger

[kindred halo]

Should probably wait for the 5070 12gb mobile tbh

If he wants

[sinful cobalt]

thats expensive icl

[kindred halo]

Less expensive than a 5070 Ti

I'd personally just recommend a 5060, it'll be okay enough if given proper wattage

[plain cypress]

15" MacBook air

[sinful cobalt]

i rec’d a 5050 but jesus laptops are so shit

[kindred halo]

The only ""good"" budget laptop is the Lenovo LOQ

Lenovo Legion 5s enter the quotation-less good range

[sinful cobalt]

idk how he went from increasing his budget from 2k sgd to 2.7k

like dude wants to spend all his financial assistance on a goddamned laptop

[kindred halo]

An LOQ with 16GB and a 5050 should be anywhere from 7-800 USD

Or, converted, 880-1050 SGD

They have 100% sRGB 1080p 144hz screens at their lowest end

[sinful cobalt]

10% electronics tax and 9% GST included

[kindred halo]

Eitherway, I really wouldn't go below an LOQ

Victus laptops have lower power budgets, worse build quality, and worse screens

[sinful cobalt]

bro that 5070ti is a strix model with a 115w tdp

[kindred halo]

5070 Ti 115W
What the fuck ❤️

[sinful cobalt]

with a 275hx, matte IPS 240hz screen

im not sure on the screen res

he’s doing engineering work but surely this is fucking overkill

atp he might as well just keep his 4050 with the mcdonald sound from the charger and get a proper desktop like bro

[deep musk]

Yes

That’s what he should do

[kindred halo]

A desktop will definitely be cheaper

Used parts can come in clutch

If he sells his 4050 laptop then even better

[sinful cobalt]

if he gets another laptop he’ll sell the 4050

[kindred halo]

Does he need a laptop
Does he actually travel enough to justify the purchase

Because 2000 SGD is definitely enough for a complete setup

[sinful cobalt]

the 5070ti laptop is alright if he wants to “game” with an external monitor bcs its about a 5060 desktop but… 16gb is not cutting it and he still wants a desktop

this guy is dumb and ass combined rather than taking the IT guy of the group’s advice

[kindred halo]

He wants both a laptop and desktop?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

but like whats the point overspending on the laptop

you yourself also stated its heavy at 2.5kg

[kindred halo]

He can just, like

Use DLSS on his 4050 laptop

Enough compute and resulting FPS to be usable

Spend the 2K SGD on a desktop

If he really wants to he can sell the 4050 laptop and get a 5050 one
Around 4060 mobile performance, and should be cheaper than a 4060 laptop

But, imo
Just get a desktop

4050 will be enough

[sinful cobalt]

thats what ive been telling him

best part is I can sell a 2tb ssd to him for relatively cheap and lend him a 24gb stick of d5

[kindred halo]

Ig fair

[tribal sentinel]

When upgrading a mobo can I just take my ssd out an put it in the new one or do I need to wipe it

[agile wraith]

Building a new Pc
Installed a RX 6600
With the windows basic driver, it works
As soon as I start installing the Adrenaline software, the GPU shuts off
The fans stop spinning and I have no video anymore

[latent pasture]

nah dont need

[tribal sentinel]

Ok thanks

[dusky spindle]

is it a fresh install

[agile wraith]

Of windows? No
I have removed all old drivers with DDU tho

[dusky spindle]

have you experienced problems like this in the past or is it just occuring now

[agile wraith]

It's occurring now, it's essentially a fresh build

[empty quartz]

Did you buy the gpu second hand?

[agile wraith]

No, brand new

[empty quartz]

What cpu do you have?

[agile wraith]

Ryzen 5500

Maybe it changed the resolution but it's not supported by the monitor?

[empty quartz]

No igpu, so this might be a bit harder to diagnose

What psu do you have?

[latent pasture]

inb4 300w type shit that cant handle even the 120w rx 6600

[empty quartz]

Real

[agile wraith]

Risemode Zeus 550W

[empty quartz]

Tf is that

[agile wraith]

Brazil bro

80 plus bronze, apparently

[empty quartz]

Sounds sketchy at best

[agile wraith]

It's not like the whole computer shuts off, but it looks like the GPU doesn't send signal anymore.

[latent pasture]

it cant be that bad

[agile wraith]

CPU fan is still spinning. And I use the shortcut to reset the graphics drivers and I can hear its beep

[latent pasture]

have u tried any other monitor cables

[agile wraith]

That's a possibility

Yeah it was the cable

The fans not spinning is just passive mode

Thanks for the help

[empty quartz]

Is that a 2013-2015 macbook pro?

[sinful cobalt]

“zeus! your son has returned! and I bring about the destruction of ur pc”

[quasi moat]

Idk it’s my girls

She has an iPad that has a way better processor

[empty quartz]

Does it have usb-c?

[quasi moat]

Yessuh

[empty quartz]

Can i see the keyboard?

[quasi moat]

https://tenor.com/view/az-gif-11018987280820467714

[empty quartz]

Im an apple nerd

I can identify the gen by the ports and keyboard

[empty quartz]

Oh

Its an m1 macbook air

2020

[quasi moat]

Life changing info

[empty quartz]

You can usually tell if a mac has an intel processor or apple silicon just by the planet icon on the function key

[pure trellis]

NVIDIA Rubin & Rubin Ultra Platforms Facing Design/Spec Issues As Per Rumors While AMD MI500 Positioned For 2H 2027 Launch. Oh,no it's happening again

[empty quartz]

Whats happening again?

[pure trellis]

AMD can compete with Nvidia

[empty quartz]

They already were able to

[pure trellis]

Nvidia will panic and skip a gen,half bake in process

[ionic peak]

😭

[latent pasture]

has nvidia ever panicked against amd post like, 2013

[fierce breach]

You can tell by the touchID button. Intel Airs don't have touchID. The only one where it'd be confusing is A2338 vs Intel Touchbar models

But camera notch generation has the fat touchID sensor

Depends on what currency your country uses and what you need it for

That means nothing

Are you going to be doing any intensive activity, or just web browsing and light coding

[sonic stag]

Looks like my paper is going to get peer reviewed

[fierce breach]

Liberal arts, so a lot of writing

[sonic stag]

Paper im working on has 224 pages lol

[fierce breach]

Ryzen 5, Core Ultra 5/i5, 16GB of RAM, that'll give you plenty of headroom to do most things that aren't gaming

[latent pasture]

get macbook neo and be done with it

[fierce breach]

You should be able to do something with 500-600

[fierce breach]

Neo is hard capped to 8GB, and Apple walked back their "actually 8GB is enough" BS

Like, to just have? Or for your laptop

You put a GPU in the laptop your price for one worth having jumps to 700-1000

[latent pasture]

for what

[fierce breach]

You don't need a dGPU for that if you aren't gaming or rendering

iGPU can handle high refresh rates outside of 3D render just fine

[sonic stag]

Very small part of paper Hybrid setup:
A nested 10 mK support architecture that replaces direct Vespel rods with a multi-material, thermally intercepted suspension.

Instead of running solid supports straight from 4 K to the mixing-chamber/sample stage, the load path is split into:

1. Kevlar 49 tension fibers

   • Carry mechanical load with very low conductive heat leak.
   • Main purpose: reduce direct conduction into the 10 mK node.

2. G-10CR flexures / structural guides

   • Provide alignment and lateral stiffness.
   • Used where geometry/control is needed without creating a large thermal short.

3. Thermal intercepts at intermediate stages

   • Heat is dumped progressively at 4 K, 1 K, 100 mK, and finally 10 mK.
   • Each intercept removes parasitic heat before it reaches the sample node.

4. Final Ag-sinter / high-conductance sample link

   • Provides strong local coupling from the cold stage to the diamond/sample.
   • Target effective conductance: G_eff ≈ 1e-5 W/K.

Purpose:
The hybrid setup prevents the support structure from acting like a heat pipe into the 10 mK stage.

Claimed model result:
Direct Vespel rods: ~2.88 µW into the cold node.
Hybrid intercepted Kevlar/G-10CR design: ~0.167 nW into the sample node.
Improvement: ~17,200× lower support heat leak.

Why it matters:
This is the part of the architecture that makes the 10 mK thermal budget plausible. Without it, the support conduction alone can dominate the cooling power and warm the sample stage. With it, support conduction becomes a small nW/sub-nW term instead of a µW-scale failure mode.

[fierce breach]

For non-gaming laptops your options are 60, 90, 120, 240

Must you talk like that

[kindred halo]

What do you plan on playing

Also did you answer the question I asked you before of which currency

[fierce breach]

USD

[kindred halo]

Oh, interesting

[fierce breach]

Nah kids dont talk like that lol its intentional

[kindred halo]

^

[unreal bay]

Kingston XS2000 is it good? do u recommend any better ones? i want something that lasts years without losing any data or something and abit of durability

[kindred halo]

An ARC B390 iGPU is around the power of a 50W 4050

[fierce breach]

But anyways, 500-600 for a decent 60hz no GPU laptop, MAYBE 120. If you want a GPU and/or 240 then you're anywhere in the 700-1400 range

Check out the newest ASUS vivobooks

what

[fierce breach]

Unless I just don't know, your wording feels off.

Does Core Ultra have DG2 cores?

[latent pasture]

and are sold on laptops in the price range of rtx 5060/5070

aka dead

[kindred halo]

It's a TLC drive, should last fairly well

[fierce breach]

Any x86 PC is either having great battery life or great performance, you can't have both, its literally impossible

[kindred halo]

DG2 Cores?

[fierce breach]

DG2 is Arc dedicated graphics right? And DG1 was the Iris XE stuff

[latent pasture]

is 20hr battery life not good enough
bc thats what core ultra 200v+ gets

[unreal bay]

That's good to hear do u recommend any other ones?

[fierce breach]

Look at the newest ASUS Vivobooks, already said that

[kindred halo]

Besides standard Cores, TMUs, EUs, and ROPs, it has 96 XMX cores & 12 RT cores

[fierce breach]

Does it have a DGPU?

[latent pasture]

20hr is not as good as 30hr on macbook arm or snapdragon but even x86 gaming laptops can get 10hr battery life easy

[fierce breach]

Oh dang

[fierce breach]

Not while doing any 3D rendering

[kindred halo]

I am not one to ask, sorry

[unreal bay]

i see thankss

[fierce breach]

not funny

x86 refers to Intel/AMD CPUs

[kindred halo]

Just get anything that's atleast 5-10 Gigabit, made by a reputable company, and has a TLC NAND

[fierce breach]

You want a lenovo thinkpad x1?

[kindred halo]

ThinkPad X1s? Bad idea for you

[fierce breach]

L

[kindred halo]

They usually carry U-SKUs, which don't boast good iGPUs most of the time

Are soldered only, and have less thermal dissipation space

[fierce breach]

When you say soldered only are you referring to RAM?

[kindred halo]

@deep musk Returning the favour in showing you silly convos

[fierce breach]

Honestly in today's market, that's not really something worth worrying about

[latent pasture]

goalpost moving
$600 oled screen x86 20hr battery laptop

[kindred halo]

Yes

[kindred halo]

What if the ram dies? Or you want to move them to another laptop?

It's especially important in today's market

[fierce breach]

Even Chrome renders 3D. My point was that under normal circumstances any x86 laptop with a dGPU is not getting 10 hours battery life on Windows

[latent pasture]

arm is good if u want to charge like every 2 days instead of every 1 day

[kindred halo]

Oh trust me I am barely anything in terms of ThinkPad knowledge

Lmao

[fierce breach]

Those "heavy load" tests aren't running 3D render they're running GPGPU compute

[kindred halo]

They are
I got called slurs in their server

I take the same approach to ThinkPads as I do the furry community

Simply enjoy the content/product, stay away from the community

[latent pasture]

almost all laptops with dgpu turn the dgpu off on battery
amd gaming laptops get 10-12hrs fine lmao

[kindred halo]

VFM?

[fierce breach]

hmm fair

[latent pasture]

and if they turn off their dgpu theyre back to igpu
aka the same as the competition thin n lights

[fierce breach]

If you buy soldered RAM, moving the RAM to another laptop is a weird point to harp on

But RAM dying is a completely valid concern. If you aren't able to RMA the board then your only cost effective option is for a local shop that does BGA to replace the RAM, same goes for upgrading

However with the current price of RAM on top of the added cost manufacturers slap onto modularity, I begrudgingly say soldered RAM is a better value at this time

[fierce breach]

Of course LPCAMM is a thing, but barely anyone adopts it

I am not listening to an LLM lol

However, most of what it said is correct

[kindred halo]

Oh fair

Yeah that's true
I got a ThinkPad T14 G1 with a 4750U & 16GB for only $300

[latent pasture]

both amd intel have options at 10hr+

and at the same config the apple arm m2 only lasts an hour more

[fierce breach]

That Ryzen AI HP Omen is actually super impressive for x86

Bravo AMD

[kindred halo]

Okay that's fair
Although you can still find middle of the road options like the modern T14, comes with both soldered and socketed

[latent pasture]

intel is also up there with core ultra 200H/V

[deep musk]

I’ve lost all words

[fierce breach]

LLMs are a good research tool when you already know what you're looking for

They are not a good research tool when you don't know what you're looking for, which you've expressed that you don't

[latent pasture]

its all dependent on how the manufacturer sets it up for battery
the stuff at low battery have the same specs but last shorter bc theyre less aggressive at throttling performance, turning off rgb etc

[fierce breach]

Overreliance on LLMs and other AI products leads to mental stagnation

[kindred halo]

The Ultras with ARC iGPUs in the 200 series are honestly really good

[fierce breach]

Ofc ofc

[kindred halo]

If your laptop can pull more than 65W you can definitely game on it

[latent pasture]

no

[kindred halo]

Not GREAT gaming, like.. 2050/3050 4GB (maybe 3050 6GB) performance, but still good for an iGPU

[fierce breach]

First ask yourself if you want to pay for a 16 inch screen, if you need to

[kindred halo]

If you want a cheaper-ish gaming laptop buy a Legion 5

9-10th gen, no 8th or older

[fierce breach]

And what is your budget

[kindred halo]

The Legions are good laptops with adequate cooling and decent parts

[kindred halo]

US$1400

[fierce breach]

Oh shit get an MSI Summit then

[kindred halo]

A Legion 5 - Like the 15AHP10 or 15IRX10 is in the 9-1200 range

[kindred halo]

The models of those that have dGPUs usually get low wattage

[latent pasture]

we dont even know what store/country/options u can buy from

[kindred halo]

Like, 45W 5060s lmao

[latent pasture]

how do u make recommendations with no info

[deep musk]

Brain usage

[fierce breach]

They're business/productivity laptops, not gaming laptops

But they're very nice and having had one myself, they can game fine

[latent pasture]

there are times where rtx 4050 gaming laptops sell for $450 in which case its totally unbeatable in price:perf

[fierce breach]

working on it

[latent pasture]

go to ur local mall and hands on with actual laptops then come back with examples of what u liked

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-we-screaming-rebecca-fakes-103-what-are-we-shouting-about-gif-26722146

[kindred halo]

I understand that, but at the price point he can get something fairly decent

[dusky spindle]

can anyone help me why is this happening on idle

[kindred halo]

Summits are like, what, 1000-1200?

[latent pasture]

ppl hjarp about specs so much but in reality its the screen and keyboard that u use 99% of the time

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ehhh-gif-4258233419175246211

People being smart in here? Where? This tc1 not tc2

[fierce breach]

Yeah the summits are "fairly decent" wut

[kindred halo]

Worded wrong, sorry

I meant, fairly decent in terms of compute power compared to a summit, whilst not sacrificing much in build quality

[tawny lava]

Which one of these two offers better cooling performance?

https://a.co/d/08FzTNIw

https://a.co/d/0ihrPgTU

[kindred halo]

They're identical

Only difference is fans, which I assume are the same model but with lighting

Lemme check though

[fierce breach]

@spark tusk found it

https://www.newegg.com/msi-16-0-qhd-touch-screen-intel-core-ultra-7-255h-geforce-rtx-4050-laptop-gpu-32gb-memory-1-tb-nvme-ssd-ink-black/p/N82E16834156789?item=N82E16834156789&source=region&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-2-in-1+laptops-_-N82E16834156789&negg_topt=0&id0=Google&id1=19483683775&id2=150664106852&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-2432941444784&id6=&id7=9007925&id8=&id9=g&id10=c&id11=&id12=CjwKCAjwtvvPBhBuEiwAPMijrzOSLBicILyjHYv3Zh29XVlYU3GBNgLnQss-_UfFqCxXyqxM9lugshoCQ1MQAvD_BwE&id13=&id14=Y&id15=&id16=645903621356&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla_with_promotion&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16834156789&id25=US&id26=2432941444784&id27=Y&id28=&id29=&id30=7453989884158596964&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=4&gad_campaignid=19483683775&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmOBfJyzMRavMjmn8RifCQi-a&gclid=CjwKCAjwtvvPBhBuEiwAPMijrzOSLBicILyjHYv3Zh29XVlYU3GBNgLnQss-_UfFqCxXyqxM9lugshoCQ1MQAvD_BwE

165hz iirc

[deep musk]

Yep

[fierce breach]

Pretty nice

I used an older model

But this is the same chassis

[kindred halo]

Identical

P12 Pro vs P12 Pro-ARGB Fans

600-3000 RPM, 77 CFM

6.9mmH2O Static Pressure

@deep musk Moment of truth, time to see if the new Windows download was worth it

AMD Drivers downloading

Yay it works

I can finally do shit on my laptop

[deep musk]

Let’s hope it works

[deep musk]

Yayayayayayyayayaayyayayayayayayayayayay

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tail-wag-tail-wagging-tail-puppy-gif-15072456614447568043

[kindred halo]

Where this gif from? I love it lol

[shy olive]

I just came here

[kindred halo]

Just silly wagging whilst stuff burns,,,,

[deep musk]

Tenor

[deep musk]

And?

[fierce breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053789932004585494/1385291971458760915/alex-northridge-northridgefix.gif

[kindred halo]

No I meant, actual content source

[unreal bay]

i found this one at my local market:
Samsung T9 2TB Portable External SSD
is it a good option?

[shy olive]

guys my minecraft is suddenly getting lag spikes and low fps for no reason, i used to play at 32 render distance and still hit 200 fps to 300 but now its very low. I tried allocating half of my ram (16gigs so 8gigs) and it did fix it a bit but im still lagging as hell can someone help

[deep musk]

Ohhh nu idea unfortunately

[deep musk]

why would I give a shit?

[shy olive]

2 messages

Just stop man there’s no point anymore

[kindred halo]

A wagging tail is apparently too much

[deep musk]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[deep musk]

Yeah, people are truly boring

[deep musk]

Not a man

[kindred halo]

Check your temps, maybe throttling or something?
Did this happen after an update?

But still, go to #1027757333117415424 like Poignée said

[shy olive]

All i said was i just came here ahahaha

i never even said the gif was too much xD

[kindred halo]

I mean.. "I just came here" whilst replying to it sorta gave that vibe

[shy olive]

No just randomly i don’t even know why

[deep musk]

Feels like a cope out ngl

[shy olive]

Yeah assumptions man

[kindred halo]

Also @deep musk I am getting ads for Radeon W7000 lmao

Because I am installing the Radeon Pro Drivers (default option that AMD gave me)

[deep musk]

X3

[deep musk]

Still not man, neither of us

[shy olive]

Ion know man

[kindred halo]

AMD thinks I am a professional user with actual professional needs.. No sillies!! I am a dumby who bought a Zen 2 laptop for gaming!!!! (And work to a degree)

[deep musk]

And is so silly sometimes

[fierce breach]

Theoretically if a board designer wanted to be lazy and not route traces in a way that cancels out EMI, could they just throw a grounded EMI shield overtop of that board area?

[deep musk]

Ever seen an original nes’s insides?

[fierce breach]

Nope

[deep musk]

(Basically, Yes it’s possible)

[fierce breach]

I see

[deep musk]

Big shields

[fierce breach]

A couple years from now, provided I have the funds to get Intel/AMD to even allow me to get a couple CPU's for prototyping and electrical specs, I'm strongly considering designing an ITX (or mATX) embedded board for NAS's

Because all the Chinese stuff, even the expensive ones, just don't have what I would need

[fierce breach]

wild

[kindred halo]

That looks interesting
That entire metal part is shielding?

[supple basin]

That's awesome

[deep musk]

Yep, basically

[modest flame]

When tech youtubers say "upgrade to an OLED" are they usually referring to a traditional WOLED or a QD-OLED?

which panel is superior?

[fierce breach]

Basically, I would want to cram 8 SATA/SAS (or 4 SAS at 12gbp/s) drives (through 2x SFF-8643), plus 1 or 2 eMMC footprints (BGA-153), on top of two PCIe 4.0 M key slots compatible up to 22100, and a PCIe x8 slot (or x16 should I have the physical space for it)

If I went the mATX route, I'd probably go for 3x SFF-8643, with an additional PCIe slot that could be used for whatever

1 or 2 2.5G ethernet. Or 1 10g and 1 1g, the reasoning behind this is PCIe lanes are needed more for storage IO than networking

The hardest part would be designing a properly robust power system and EMI concerns. I'd hire someone to do firmware writing because nobody can force me to code not even myself

An N100/N150 isn't capable of what I'm describing, but something newer could

[supple basin]

Qd

[fierce breach]

Alternatively if I had access to PCIe 5.0, I could do some bifurcation shenanigans with the chipset to get more 4.0 lanes

[deep musk]

Thats a ton of stuff to cram in an itx board, also this class of coy will never be able to run all this stuff

[supple basin]

Wtf lol

[fierce breach]

China can cram 8 full size SATA ports onto an ITX board, 2 SFF-8643's isn't unreasonable (actually it's far more reasonable)

And yeah the Intel N class is not capable of this, I know. That's just my reference point because that's what's on the market

Realisticallyt I'd probably have to do something core/ryzen. But then there's the problem of an embedded CPU VS a mobile CPU. Mobile will not have the same amount of lanes as an embedded one

But idk if Intel/AMD even make embedded CPU's more powerful than what would be considered super budget

I guess you could technically put solder balls on the bottom of an LGA CPU, but that's beyond cursed

Also the reason for embedded over socketed is to keep cost low for the consumer

The idea behind the particular type of NAS i'd want this for is something that does files, and a little bit of docker. Maybe light AI with a dGPU. Not making gaming VMs

[kindred halo]

Super silly and interesting

[fierce breach]

Oh and also the china boards typically have like 10 million COM headers.

I'd have 2 USB 2.0, 1 internal USB port for a flash drive, 1 USB 3.0, maybe 1 USB 4.0, FPANEL, ideally fTPM in the CPU, and 1 chassis fan header meant to be used with a hub

[supple basin]

Thats not alot at all

[fierce breach]

ATX 24 pin, no 4 or 8 pin AUX power if avoidable

[supple basin]

But very niche

[fierce breach]

I know, the point is to save board space for robust IO IC's and power delivery

[kindred halo]

Ryzen 9000 embedded can have anywhere from 6 to 16 cores, with 28 Gen 5 lanes

[fierce breach]

holy based AMD

[supple basin]

Robust io and power delivery for efficiency?

[fierce breach]

Reliability

[kindred halo]

Although only NVMe for storage allegedly

[fierce breach]

A NAS is supposed to run 24/7 forever

[deep musk]

Yeshshshshsh

[fierce breach]

Thats not how storage works

[kindred halo]

I am just saying, that's what they list for storage interfaces

[fierce breach]

There are SATA/SAS controllers that run off of PCIe rather than dedicated southbridge lines

[supple basin]

Anything runs off pcie

[fierce breach]

Oh gotcha

[deep musk]

So basically no native sata

[deep musk]

Not really

[fierce breach]

SATA as a standard was designed with special data lines straight to the CPU/southbridge. Running it through PCIe is technically a hack

[kindred halo]

Yeah that's what I was warning about

[deep musk]

A ton of stuff runs on pcie but not everything

[kindred halo]

@fierce breach

Embedded goes anywhere from 9600X to 9950X3D

[fierce breach]

Oh that's more than realistic hell yeah

[kindred halo]

If you need the cores there's the embedded 9700X

L3? 9800X3D Embedded

[supple basin]

It's an exaggeration but almost anything data related can be worked with pcie

[kindred halo]

Even more cores? 9900X/9950X

[fierce breach]

Guy who runs a repair shop invents a new NAS board more at 7

God it'd be so cool if I actually reach the position where I can do that

[kindred halo]

If Russian and Chinese resellers can resocket boards, you can probably do more

They legitimately saw off sockets and put new ones

[deep musk]

They also hack the bios so im not super sure if it’s that easy

[fierce breach]

I actually haven't seen any Russian boards on the market

[kindred halo]

Don't know what they do for chipset though

[fierce breach]

As long as processor and chipset generation match it's relatively trivial from what I do know

[deep musk]

Also saw it off most of the time

[kindred halo]

Not saying it is, just mentioning what the "average" consumer can do

[fierce breach]

The main concern is electrical compatibility

[deep musk]

And software support

[kindred halo]

Hilarious

[deep musk]

Certain chipsets don’t support cpu from the same generation

(Mostly older ones)

[deep musk]

Ohhhh okii

[fierce breach]

I'd be looking to make a legitimate product from the ground up

That's why I said the biggest barrier to entry is cost. Intel/AMD are going to want me to be willing to buy a tray of probably 50-100 CPU's before they even entertain letting me get access to electrical information buried under a million NDA's

[kindred halo]

Brb peeps going to resocket my Haswell B85M and turn it into an A620

[fierce breach]

lol

[kindred halo]

Let's see if AMD kept any DDR3 compatibility from the AM3 days

[fierce breach]

Highly unlikely

[kindred halo]

Else I'll saw off the RAM DIMMs too

[kindred halo]

Probably not on purpose, would be FX hiding in the landing gear bay

[fierce breach]

Now that I think about it

The Chinese boards have so much COM and GPIO because they're probably repurposed industrial designs

[deep musk]

Yes, that’s why, they wanna be able to sell them to as many people as possible

[fierce breach]

Makes sense

My hypothetical design is the ultimate home/small business NAS board. Its primary purpose is a NAS and only a NAS

The lower the cost is, the higher the adoption rate is

Of course I have a financial incentive, but my main thing is this product doesnt exist and it should

[undone star]

kinda an odd question, but I need a camera to monitor remote equipment in my workshop, I only need maybe 1fps at maybe 720p tbh, could be REALLY low spec, but i want something that is lan enabled with no cloud nonsense and won't RAT my entire network if I connect it to wifi, is there a product that meets these needs for $20 or less?

[supple basin]

Aliexpress

[undone star]

I use Wyze brand cameras(i think) to monitor the exterior of my shop because i don't have to expose my data on the cloud, but that's a little pricey for a camera that just has to face a machine so i can do a quick "is it on fire or broken" check every hour or two. it also does not need sd card recording capability

[fierce breach]

Just do it proper and go unifi

[undone star]

i don't love the idea of aliexpress wifi enabled devices on my network, i thought about maybe buying a cheapo camera module and an esp32 but i'm not sure if an esp32 has the bandwidth for a video camera

if it wasn't a wifi device i would buy the cheapest chinesium camera for like $4 in a heartbeat

[steel umbra]

buy from reputable brands

[frigid blade]

This isn’t AI generated btw

[steel umbra]

everything is made in china anyways

[frigid blade]

You’re either misunderstanding a joke or trying to get others to

The reason people say it’s “AI generated art” is because the girl is a robot child

all of the drawings are made by humans

[steel umbra]

aliexpress is not the only retail or marketplace where malware has been found

look at amazon, resellers sell the same junk found on alibaba

[deep musk]

“No, my shirt was made in bengladesh” (im just messing with you)

[steel umbra]

noooooooooo i’m wrong noooyoyoyo

[deep musk]

X3

[steel umbra]

aaaaa

[grizzled frost]

S tier electrical work

[steel umbra]

SSS++

[grizzled frost]

who needs insulation when you got copper

[supple basin]

S for scary

[steel umbra]

i luv coppah

[sharp ivy]

com of puter

[supple basin]

This was also S for scary

600B only has one pigtail 8-pin pcie

😭

[iron glen]

hows that

looks fine to me

[supple basin]

No it really wasn't I stopped after one test because it was squealing loud asf

[iron glen]

maybe it was hungry

[steel umbra]

are you sure the cables and connectors are within specs

[supple basin]

None of this is within spec, pcie 4x4 oculink to m.2 to 9070 XT powered by evga 600B but I need two molex to make a third 8-pin

[deep musk]

Just listening to the wan show and for some reasons I feel like the next product might be an electric toothbrush (because Linux mentioned sanitary issues with a potential satisfaction guarantee)

[steel umbra]

do you want to kill your card

[iron glen]

if you say the magic words youll be fine

"itll be alright" or alternatively "shut up"

[supple basin]

Was just limit testing

[deep musk]

Huh?

We’re u went @stark flicker (got warshipped i think)

[steel umbra]

the limit test won’t be a shutdown but melted connectors or wires

alternatively they short each other

[fierce breach]

what the fuck