tech-chat-1

[deep musk]

No idea

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[worn willow]

how to install fastfecth

[vapid ibex]

What distro

[worn willow]

one with apt

[vapid ibex]

Sudo apt install fastfetch

[worn willow]

unable to locate

[vapid ibex]

Means distro too old or u didn't update

Do sudo apt update

[worn willow]

oh

IT WORKS

THANKS

[vapid ibex]

Welcome lol

[worn willow]

@deep musk i will send the fetchw ait

[remote swallow]

lmao sapphire done lost they mind

[median warren]

1000 euro for a 9070xt is crazy

[errant thorn]

Hey guys I have a choice between a iiyama g master GB3271QSU-B1 and a Samsung odyssey g3 also in 32 inch, what would be better out of the two for gaming and general watching

[gilded harness]

what browser are yall using

[frail sequoia]

From what ive seen only Ubuntu and kali are bloated

[gilded harness]

finally a 9070xt nitro without 12vhpwr

[worn willow]

i use the kali

[abstract wigeon]

better keyboard than k400 for 30 money?

[clear canyon]

30 MONEY!?!?!?!?!?!

:O

[open rock]

Whever i try to download arch arm for my pi it keeps loading then stops without downloading

[clear canyon]

are you out of storage?

[open rock]

No i have 880gb left

[native path]

on ur pi?

[open rock]

From my pc to flash the sd card for the pi

Other downloads work fine

It does the same on my laptop

[clear canyon]

then its an issue with the website

[open rock]

Do u know of a alternative sorce were i can download it

[clear canyon]

no

[cold skiff]

Wasn’t a 3060 at 1 point $1000 at the time due to crypto boom? Id say a 9070xt isn’t crazy money but its damn expensive

[median warren]

Yeah probably, I bought my 3070 during crypto boom for £990

[median warren]

It isn't crazy but it's not good either

[cold skiff]

Daaamn 8gb for a grand

[median warren]

Yeaaah well you know what it was like

Desperate times

£630

I wouldn't pay 1000 euro if I can get one for £630

[frail sequoia]

I would rather use Ubuntu ir install arch using only commands instead of the archinstall command than use kali

[abstract wigeon]

i got mine for £595 a couple months back

[median warren]

Not bad

[abstract wigeon]

its that xfx one from quicksilver, gone up quite a bit cus ram i guess

[median warren]

Yeah it is

Tbh it's still not bad, and there will be sales

[abstract wigeon]

yeah its not unreasonable

[median warren]

£590

[abstract wigeon]

eeeeh "pre-order"

[median warren]

Yeaaah ik

[deep musk]

God am hungy qwq

And I still have to way for like 45 mins qwq

[abstract wigeon]

arch arm?

you should just use debian/pios

arch arm is not worky greaty

[quasi moat]

Windows installer

Lol

[median warren]

Unbelievable that this fits into a single usb stick

And that this is what billions used to install their operating systems

[restive plinth]

Does the Steam controller work on Windows (outside of Steam)?

[spring latch]

insane OC/Undervolt

Core: 1366 to 1395MHz
Voltage: 1150mV to 1030mV

vRAM: 1750MHz to 2070MHz (any more was unstable)
Voltage: 950mV to 900mV

[rose stream]

It probably does, though I'm not sure how many of the inputs will natively.

[spring latch]

i realized voltage didnt show there

[restive plinth]

I just saw this on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1sxtyx5/pcmag_steam_controller_doesnt_support_game_pass/
Idk how true this is

There's like some confusion regarding this. Steam controller apparently doesn't support the Windows GameInput thing microsoft released in 2025?
they also don't have the older xinput thing

[old sleet]

rode wireless go gen 3 is insane for the price

[rose stream]

Hmm... Well, it's at least very easy to fix.
One could technically do it themselves with fixes found by the open-source community till Valve decides if they want to implement that or not.

[restive plinth]

Yes it is easy to fix
If this support is not there, I hope they add it though because this is still a significant market for them. They're not releasing the controller with the steam machine, so getting the xbox controller market could also be good for them

[rose stream]

Would definitely be worth the shot, yeah.

[flat cliff]

AI generation stuff are you all the don't talk about that it will just take jobs learn real skills the more you talk the faster it does that or can I ask for video generation and image gen help?

[normal cipher]

Anyone knows if 55 euros for an in good shape second hand gtx 1060 aero itx 6 gig is a nice price?

[flat cliff]

Go on eBay or whatever local buy sell place is used in you country, check listings and see what people sell it at. I think its an OK price but idk, I tend to stick to 8gb vram models.

[normal cipher]

fair enough, I did check to see similar models but they all seem to be higher in price

[flat cliff]

No I mean like what 1060s themselves go for.

[normal cipher]

yes i meant that sorry!

they go for ~80

[spring latch]

alrighty my overclock might be too far

vkmark bench test:

stock GTX 1080 Ti: ~9,800

my insanely overclocked 4GB RX 580: 12,441

[flat cliff]

Just make sure you have some buyer protection on it or can test it when you pick it up (like PC in back of car with UPS).

[normal cipher]

im going to try, however its being shipped to me. Still it looks to be in perfect condition

[normal cipher]

woah

[sharp ivy]

nice

1060 6gb is a good card

[sharp ivy]

crazy

[spring latch]

THIS BEING SAID
the 1080 Ti isnt great in vulkan so I should test OpenCL

[normal cipher]

fair enough haha

[normal cipher]

i am in love with it, its compact and it does what i will need it to do

its going in a second portable build, i scored a random itx case for 5 bucks

[sharp ivy]

kewl

[normal cipher]

its an aliexpress case but i mean for 5 bucks, i dont care xD

[flat cliff]

Oh just make sure the shipping platform has some sort of I'm scammed give me my money back buyer protection.

[normal cipher]

the platform i use has it, its just a couple bucks extra but i dont care

[flat cliff]

OK that's good

[deep musk]

oof, might have some reeeeeaaaallllyyyy loose tolerances

[onyx idol]

Whoever here owns a modern TCL TV, how the hell do I access the Game Mode menu, not just turning it off/on/auto? I got access to it once but now I can't

[normal cipher]

yea i took 10mm off the clearance and such

or did u mean something else

bro it looks like the gpu comes in its own box too

[deep musk]

I meant manufacturing tolerances

[normal cipher]

what would it affect, im not sure what that means 😭

[deep musk]

it means the case might not have the holes at the right places and stuff like that

[normal cipher]

i got a good drill so if i need too.....

oof i cant add the pics for the gpu here

[deep musk]

the pcie bracket might also be off, cheap cases are cheap because they aren't made with any precision at all

[normal cipher]

fair, but for 5 bucks i just couldnt pass it off

its the t40 by metalfish if that helps

[sharp ivy]

Why not?

[deep musk]

send like 3 three of them instead of 4 of them

[normal cipher]

nope i just got warned again

[deep musk]

test

works for me

[normal cipher]

hmm maybe i dont have enough levels or something similar

[clear canyon]

@normal cipheryou gotta go to the ltt forum and make an account and link it to ur discord

[normal cipher]

i never chat in this server

[clear canyon]

white roles cannot post images

[normal cipher]

ohhhh whoops!

[clear canyon]

gotta be green

[normal cipher]

how do i get to the ltt forum

[clear canyon]

google it

[normal cipher]

ty!

[clear canyon]

np

[deep musk]

ohhhh makes sense, but @sharp ivy is able to send images tho (I've seen her send stuff before)

[clear canyon]

its a public forum

[normal cipher]

i think i did it

[clear canyon]

yes

try now

[clear canyon]

idk about that one, but you are suppose to have a green role in order to post images

[normal cipher]

ayyyy it worked, thank you so much!

[clear canyon]

yeah np

[deep musk]

[sharp ivy]

I can

[normal cipher]

yoooo peak fursuit

[clear canyon]

ew

[grizzled frost]

ew, grass

[sharp ivy]

not mine but that is me wearing it

[normal cipher]

still very cool!

[sharp ivy]

thx

[grizzled frost]

cool fursuit

wish there was less grass in the image though

[normal cipher]

grass is just a made up thing to be able to sell gardens

[grizzled frost]

REAL

[sharp ivy]

I made a cardboard protogen for this meet just for sillies

[grizzled frost]

how much does something like that cost?

[sharp ivy]

this cost me 1 cardboard box

[normal cipher]

protogen!!!

[deep musk]

this one?

[deep musk]

oh dat one

[grizzled frost]

i mean the real fursuit head that you showed

[sharp ivy]

I think 2K+CAD?

[grizzled frost]

what

[deep musk]

qwq

[sharp ivy]

maybe less

I don't remember sorry

[normal cipher]

holy smackaroonies

[deep musk]

damn, so happy to not be a furry (what I want isn't medically feasible tho )

[sharp ivy]

I'm working on finishing up my proto partial fursuit printing this week

still have a lot of small pieces to print

[grizzled frost]

i really need to get me a 3d printer

but i also wanna buy a gpu compute node

[sharp ivy]

but I have all of the electronics and the front of the face printed

[normal cipher]

i wanna print gpu covers so badly

[snow mauve]

those 2 things vary greatly in price though right lol

[iron glen]

why does it have toothpaste on its tongue

[normal cipher]

so it can eat orange juice trust me

[grizzled frost]

1.2kusd for the GPU node i want, or around 800usd for a nice 3d printer and some filament

[snow mauve]

wait when yoiu say node...like cloud instance? 1.2k usd for anything local gpu seems low lol

[chilly vigil]

It’s better to get the 3d printer

[grizzled frost]

i mean like a legit GPU compute server for my rack

4x P100's and 2 P4's

64GB HBM2, 16GB GDDR5, 49.512 TFLOPS aggregate FP32 performance

for reference, a 4080S gets 52.22TFLOPS in FP32

[gaunt spade]

i just got my cases from china and the boxes sound like shatteree glass

[snow mauve]

all that for 1200??

used?

[grizzled frost]

my usecase is also rather memory bandwidth limited though, so a 4080S has 736.3GB/s of memory bandwidth, and the GPU's in the planned server would have 3313.4GB/s aggregate bandwidth

[deep musk]

Oof

[grizzled frost]

they're decade old GPU's, ofc they're used

[snow mauve]

missed that part 😄

still though...i think thast a good deal but if you're a regular 3d printing enthusiast. maybe that's a better roi for you

[grizzled frost]

I'll probably build the GPU server first, since there's nothing i need to do rn that i can't do without a 3d printer

[gaunt spade]

i touched it it seems ok i cant open it tho im otw home rip maybe

[grizzled frost]

Dual Intel Xeon Gold 6252 with 6x8gb ddr4 ecc per CPU, each being roughly equivalent to a 7800x3d in my usecase

again, memory bandwidth limited, so i wanted to fill every dimm slot, but capacity isn't super important

[thorny saddle]

I think I get like 220 GB/s with a fully pop'd 6200 Xeon

[grizzled frost]

I'm going 2133 to save some money, since the CPU performance isn't the most important thing anyways

the GPU's will run laps around the CPU's, but might as well use them if i have them

12x8gb 3200 would be 600usd
12x8gb 2133 would be 200usd (i already have 4 dimms)

1/3rd the price for about 2/3rd the theoretical bandwidth

[gaunt spade]

expensive

[thorny saddle]

Damn I don't think I have had a single DIMM below 32

the 8'ers and 16'ers drop off so fast

[grizzled frost]

a single ddr4 ecc 32gb 2133 RDIMM would be 75USD at the bare minimum

[thorny saddle]

yep

[grizzled frost]

and to get the same performance as the 8gb dimms, i'd still need 12 to fill the memory channels

[thorny saddle]

might be able to save a few bucks with 4Rx4

[grizzled frost]

so that's 900usd, and that's still only 2133 32gb dimms

[grizzled frost]

75usd is 4Rx4

[thorny saddle]

oh word

[grizzled frost]

well actually it says 4DRx4, what's the difference?

[thorny saddle]

thats different yes

4DRx4 is functionally 2Rx4

[grizzled frost]

75usd is still the absolute cheapest 32gb dimms i see

[sharp ivy]

for fresh breath

[iron glen]

read that as something else

[grizzled frost]

sometimes you can find single dimms for a bit less, like 60-65usd, but usually that's only 1-2 dimms at a time

buying 12 dimms 1-2 at a time is just plain painful

also you won't be getting matched vendor dimms

[sharp ivy]

9800X3D with 9800GTX

[thorny saddle]

most people will sell the same SKU in lots

[grizzled frost]

Yeah usually people that do that are charging more than 75usd

the only people dumb enough to list under 75usd are the ones that only have a couple dimms

most listings are more like 85-100usd

[snow mauve]

yipee some corporate cringe training just got updated and i have to redo it after completing it last december..sigh

[thorny saddle]

welcome to employment

[grizzled frost]

4gb 3200 is an option, but even i don't want to lose that much capacity

and that would still be 450usd

[deep musk]

[iron glen]

hope it grows mold

[grizzled frost]

buying more of the same dimms i already have makes the most sense, since i only have to buy 8 dimms vs 12 dimms

[deep musk]

Meanie

[iron glen]

im just humble like that ❤️

[snow mauve]

yep. but do they all contract with the same cringy production studios?

[thorny saddle]

a lot do yeah - entire industry made around training

I used to work for a biotech/pharma hosting provider and I had to take all the training of our clients lol

[flat cliff]

Guys help me fill out my LTT cart I want to get a scribe driver and maybe a screwdriver but just the pen alone is $30. If I get the screwdriver that's $90 so better (I'd do the random one I don't care colors) so better but its $120 for free shipping?

Also I really want the pen and I get why it is so expensive but dam $30 for a pen if that's all I buy, not like overpriced just a lot for me to pen spend.

Anyways what else should I add to cart for the shipping? I'd just do LTT cables but they no stock so I can't do that. Think they are gonna come back in stock before the end of ship storm?

[grizzled frost]

corporations are uniquely skilled at making extremely cringy training videos

[snow mauve]

i would like to assume a majority of people have common sense and brains. you cant legislate/train away bias or hate. everybody has it. have i worked in male dominant roles with some rough convos before yea? but i've never been abusive or made fun of anybody due to a trait, etc and almost never seen anybody do it. so the few idiots have to ruin it for us

also what congressman going for this has a buddy who made money off the corporate training?

[snow mauve]

military wasn't much better lol. 90s were worse

[thorny saddle]

Here's the best part - you're told that you're full of bias and hate and you're a racer.

Also the orgs telling that narrative were just found to be getting money and paying people of hate/bias/racers to build the narrative.

[snow mauve]

yep. woke bonus points

[thorny saddle]

Take a look in the news "SPLC"

[snow mauve]

how about come after somebody with remedial training AFTER an incident, and save the rest of us from doing it

[snow mauve]

i'm well, well aware

they aren't the only one but first domino

[thorny saddle]

I had to take a training last year that I reported to legal lol

[snow mauve]

how much you wanna bet its 99% the time the male is the aggressor in the videos

[thorny saddle]

The training was like "Pick which bias you have that stands out over others"

Uhhhhhhh what about "No bias"?

[snow mauve]

lol, we all have it! you just shouldn't let it influnece employment decisions and such at work

[thorny saddle]

PICK YOUR HATRED

[snow mauve]

somewhere, there is a broncos guy that hates a raiders guy. a japanese guy that hates that irish guy. that fat guy that hates the skinny guy. you will never erase it. be mature and grow up

[latent gull]

the two personalities, racist or sexist, pick one

[snow mauve]

right, allt rainings are like 'youre either fully racist, or you're a closet racist /bigot, lets explain why, and how we can change you'

the whole premise off the bat is accusatory

[thorny saddle]

Don't worry - its not actually a prolific problem, an NGO was being paid to stir up hate speech so that it seems that way

[snow mauve]

to me, all people start at 100 in my book, and whittle yourself down based off behavior and experience, regardless of trait, i think most people function this way

isn't it crazy that 'non governmental' orgs tend to sway and influence gov so much? magic

i like a spotlight has been shined on this, but some poeple will continue to dig their heels in. not trying to be political, but it's a huge problem if some people are trying to paint the picture that half the nation is evil.

sorry /rant complete

[thorny saddle]

Here's my take - I don't care what your opinions are just get your work done and don't fight with people lol

[snow mauve]

i agree. i also don't need a story/thesis/diatribe about who you are, why you are, what you do in the bedroom, what dangles between your legs (or lack thereof), all those things may be important to you, but NOT to work. i think that'st he issue people don't like. it's not lack of tolerance, it's having irrelevant stuff thrown into your face and interwoven into workspace

here's how a story used to go back in 1999...hey man gonna bring your wife to the bbq? ...nope i'm gay...brief pause..oh cool gonna bring your husband? yeah. convo ended

[gaunt spade]

theyre both alive 🥹🥹

[deep musk]

Yayyayayayayaya

[gaunt spade]

2 fishtanks and this tiny weird thing

[deep musk]

Itx or matx?

[gaunt spade]

itx

its one of those where u need a gpu in the back with riser

[deep musk]

Ohhhh nicey

[snow mauve]

ever seen one of those 'open design' build where a guy has 2 radiators and the gpu completely offset? similar to a mining rig but not a mining rig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2Gwi49wmE

i likey....

i've also seen others where guy did computer/furniture as a single piece in mind, was great but $$$

[empty quartz]

@thorny saddle

[pure trellis]

https://www.techpowerup.com/348604/eu-now-requires-usb-c-charging-for-new-laptops-up-to-100-w

[worn willow]

How to fix android

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[worn willow]

It broke so hard

It doesnt let me use play store

Or most of apps

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-talking-hohoho-talking-ben-laugh-gif-25277063

Reinstall

[worn willow]

Or buy iphone

[median warren]

Nah Google pixel and grapheneos

[north hill]

does anyone know how far the ViewSonic VG2756a-2K can be safely overclocked?

[deep musk]

No

[jaunty apex]

stop running vms on your android

[south arrow]

I dont rec pushing monitors past their spec

[deep musk]

To the point where it stops displaying (serious answer: no idea)

[deep musk]

[median warren]

What if I want to

[deep musk]

no

[median warren]

Can I overclock you

I want to see how fast you can run

[deep musk]

[median warren]

Come here let me inject adrenaline and steroids, and drink some ln2

[deep musk]

That feels sexual for some reason

[south arrow]

XD

[median warren]

It's not, it's not intended to be

[deep musk]

(The overclocking part)

[deep musk]

I know x3

[south arrow]

Its been shipped no going back now

Rule whatever of the internet

[median warren]

Honestly I'd hope it's not sexual, just imagine all the people getting sexual with their ram and CPUs

[deep musk]

I just found it funney

[median warren]

I know DW dw

[south arrow]

Just teasin

[median warren]

A bit of foreplay with your ram Never hurts, puts them in the mood

Yeah lmao

[north hill]

it can supposedly do 75Hz, but Windows messes up the resolution if i set it to 75Hz in the settings

[latent gull]

im curious about the 100w or less requirement, why not just make PD standard and say the requirement is only up to 100W

[south arrow]

Probs just run 60 in that scenario

[azure topaz]

WHAT.

[median warren]

Lmao

[deep musk]

It must be 75 at a lower res type of thingy

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-talking-hohoho-talking-ben-laugh-gif-25277063

[south arrow]

I dont hardware shame so im just gonna leave it

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/ram-computer-compsci-gaming-pc-ram-prices-gif-7364287740815407372

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/memery-motherboard-gif-13187739

[median warren]

How else do you expect people to overclock their ram

[south arrow]

Notes whisper sweet nothings before my next oc

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

Oh my god I hate this gif

[median warren]

Good idea

[south arrow]

Im ready for the 2026 jensen eat gif tbh

[restive plinth]

What is going on here.....

[south arrow]

Should drop a new one yearly

[median warren]

He's actually rich enough to eat graphics cards everyday

Not that his body would digest it but

[deep musk]

No idea

[south arrow]

The light doesnt touch this place simba be weary

[remote swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-huang-dancing-nvidia-rtx-chinese-new-year-gif-14147625543772139099

[pure trellis]

This is the first step for unification and let industry adapt

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-graphics-card-gif-15030686106937744416

He was a lot fatter back then

[pure trellis]

Is that gtx680?

[median warren]

Or he is just like that now?

[median warren]

I can't make it out

[pure trellis]

He always was on larger side

If you want to see his physic,check university lectures he given

[azure topaz]

that’s what i do

[azure topaz]

quadro rtx 8000 or 6000

dual slot turing quadro

[median warren]

Good man

[median warren]

Graphic card

[rose stream]

M a n . . .

[median warren]

😫

[azure topaz]

man

[latent gull]

i dont think it would be extreme for higher end laptops to also have a usbc-PD port that goes up to 100W

[knotty bolt]

😋

[snow mauve]

if you press that G in the middle are you hitting the G spot?

[empty quartz]

Apple has had that since 2016 for the pro’s and 2018 for the air’s

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-eating-laptop-man-buff-gif-603140484438629296

[empty quartz]

We dont talk about the 2015 macbook though

[pure trellis]

Apple is 4th in the laptop market by units shipped

[median warren]

FINALLY FOUND IT

[empty quartz]

And 1 in build quality

[snow mauve]

teehee

[empty quartz]

Except for literally every butterfly keyboard mac

[snow mauve]

my comment was 100% clean and innocent

[pure trellis]

Also,top 2 is about 80% of market

[empty quartz]

Its funny how so many laptop companies are starting to have more similar designs to apples laptops

[snow mauve]

i used to be a dell repair tech. i was very annoyed at the extreme variance in all their stuff you could tell who had diff design teams. some were solid , easy to take apart, not convoluted, and others wer just a cluster

i'd get some sony vaios too sometimes

[restive plinth]

I meann.. I don't think a lot of laptop companies are "copying". For thin laptops, there's realistically only one kind of design you can do tbh

[snow mauve]

but i made mad money on the side

[restive plinth]

Top 2 is 80%?
Lenovo and HP?

[pure trellis]

Yep

[restive plinth]

Damn that's crazy

[empty quartz]

I get lenovo being in the top 2, but fucking HP??

[restive plinth]

HP probably leads in the cheaper laptops segment
Their product is really good for the price

[empty quartz]

H: hinge
P: problem

[thorny saddle]

Is this good or bad

[empty quartz]

Build quality is a issue in all of hp’s laptop’s

[gaunt spade]

goofy ahh 5080

[empty quartz]

What board?

[thorny saddle]

what do you mean

[restive plinth]

So they centered the keyboard and kept a large trackpad. I wouldn't call it "copying". Realistically there's only one way to design a thin laptop with a large trackpad and that keyboard

[deep musk]

yesn’t

[deep musk]

Is that a single slot 5080?

[empty quartz]

Never said copied

I said having similar designs

[deep musk]

Wait, no it’s dual slot

[restive plinth]

For the price, you get a good balance of build quality, processor, memory, etc
They also probably have a lot of partnerships with a lot of companies ig

[empty quartz]

You dont get build quality with hp

[restive plinth]

Ah fair my bad

[empty quartz]

Lenovo, you do

[latent gull]

...small?

[restive plinth]

From what I've seen, it's actually not that bad. But maybe yeah compared to Lenovo laptops in the same price range, it is probably worse. But spec wise, it's good for it's price

[median warren]

Slim so probably just less slots taken up

[restive plinth]

Also it's not 80% according to this chart
Top 3 are close to 70%

[latent gull]

its still fuckin massive

[median warren]

That's true but it's slim

So you can't fat shame it now, it lost weight

[empty quartz]

I will never spend money on dell, hp, or acer

Apple or lenovo ftw

[gaunt spade]

giant

[median warren]

Did any of you set your default browser to edge to try and win the million bucks and the car

[restive plinth]

Acer, I agree
HP higher end models are actually really good
Dell XPS is goated

[latent gull]

dell is actually okay in a lot of cases, but id definitely prefer lenovo

[empty quartz]

Dell is shit

[median warren]

Alienware

That's hp

[latent gull]

dell is... complicated, they have some bad and some good

[median warren]

Nvm

[empty quartz]

Spent $2100 on a dell laptop and its metal hinge was glued onto the metal clamshell

[median warren]

What's wrong with glue, I love sniffing it

[restive plinth]

nah
Alienware is Dell right?

[empty quartz]

Yes

[median warren]

Same thing

Dell Hp, same shit as Aldi and Lidl

[empty quartz]

If i need an editing laptop, ill go apple.
if i need gaming, ill go asus.

[restive plinth]

Dell lower end models are really shit
But tbh you can't expect apple level quality when you're paying so less.

[snow mauve]

ace, really an atty?

[restive plinth]

Get a desktop and do both

[empty quartz]

I have a desktop

3 actually

[restive plinth]

crazy

[empty quartz]

1 nas
1 main
1 workstation

[latent gull]

except now you can, with the neo

[restive plinth]

Except, it's only in some places where it's cheap
And Dell low end models are A LOT cheaper than neo

[empty quartz]

The neo is better than pretty much anything in that price range

[thorn pewter]

well that is new ig

[restive plinth]

In that price range, yes but so many people are buying laptops in a price range that is a lot below neo

[thorn pewter]

a m2 air used would be more powerful imo for abotu the same price

[latent gull]

the neo definitley changes a lot of the economics of sub 800$ machines

[empty quartz]

A18 pro is around m2 performance

Faster than the m1

[oak rampart]

Is $400 good for 64gb 4x16gb ddr5 7600mhz cl36

[empty quartz]

Dont get 4x16 unless you’re using a workstation

[oak rampart]

Im gonna resell

[empty quartz]

Consumer systems will shit the bed with 4 dimms

You need a cpu with quad channel to actually be able to utilize 4x16 properly

[median warren]

I hate you

[oak rampart]

Im gonna resell 2 kit 2x16gb

[oak rampart]

Dont hate the player hate the game

[median warren]

I hate the player for making the game worse

[empty quartz]

We all hate both

[snow mauve]

that's still good though, i'd get it just to resell it yeah

even at walmart you're looking at $400 for 32 2 x 16gbs

[empty quartz]

I could easily sell half the ram in my workstation (128gb) and make back all the money i invested into the system

[snow mauve]

i have 96gb collecting dust and several other 64gb kits in boxes not really able to be utilized. but i will fire up that 96gb server soon even if it's just for a PBS node 😄

[empty quartz]

What processor?

[deep musk]

Why?

[tidal geyser]

not their pic

[delicate wedge]

It’s on twitter ofc

[tidal geyser]

<@&750150305383186585>

[empty quartz]

13th reason

[tidal geyser]

im criminally online

[thorn pewter]

yeah but you do get more os suppourt with the 18 pro than m2 so thats that, but in return you dont get touch id on the lower tier and only 8 gigs max of unified ram

[delicate wedge]

Touch grass

[empty quartz]

No

[tidal geyser]

no

[thorn pewter]

no?

[empty quartz]

You’ll get more os support on the neo

[thorn pewter]

yeah thats what i ment

m2 is 4 yo atp

[empty quartz]

I misread lmao

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/free-gas-gasoline-gas-pump-gas-prices-gif-25071443

[empty quartz]

Still getting 6 more years out of the m2

[restive plinth]

The base model Dell laptops are like $360-$370
It's now touching 400 because of RAM prices but usually it is in that price range. You get 512GB SSD as well.

If people are buying these sub 400 laptops a lot, I really doubt they will spend $100 more to get a neo.

For that specific range of neo, it's extremely competitive. But below that it isn't.

[empty quartz]

Well 8 more if you count security

[latent gull]

where?

[haughty compass]

I need help. I've been struggling to install drivers for my pc (has kept saying gpu not detected) and I was finally able to get the Nvidia app to install but now when I try to install drivers it just says an error occurred... How can I fix this?

[empty quartz]

Even my 2010 macbook pro 17” got 10 years total of support

8 years of major updates, and 2 of security

[restive plinth]

India
But that is kinda irrelevent because Neo is like $740 here so people are definitely not going to consider that at all. Cheaper Dell/ Lenovo/ HP models are a lot more valuable for it's price.

[thorn pewter]

add opencore to add 1 more year

wiat nvm mroe than 1

up till now i believe

[deep musk]

Use Linux and it’s even better

[latent gull]

yeah, the econommics there are extremely different from the US

[empty quartz]

I think i have monterey on it rn

I wanna get a 2011 17” though, 16gb of ram would make it more usable

[thorn pewter]

yeah tahoe is slow af but i think sequoia is the next best thing

[thorn pewter]

i know anything before 2015 they where user upgradeable no?

[empty quartz]

2012 and older for the 13” pro, 2011 and older for the 15” & 17”

[thorn pewter]

ah i see

[empty quartz]

2017 is the last year of upgradable storage for the 13” non touchbar pro

[restive plinth]

Yeahh

It's still such a large market they are missing out on ngl. The use of iPhones has skyrocketed here over the past few years (mostly for the status symbol) but there's still a lot of growth possible.

[empty quartz]

Fact: buying a phone as a status symbol makes you look broke

[latent gull]

its one of those cases where they probably cant make it happen, itll just have to happen naturally as the economy changes

[thorn pewter]

wait how long does apple going to give m1 supourt for?

[restive plinth]

How long is a macbook usually supported btw
And after that, what happens to the software? Apple app updates continue to be available I hope

[empty quartz]

With intel it was 10 years total (except for the 2020 intel macbooks), m series is unknown since its apples in house sillycon, so its probably gonna be longer

[restive plinth]

They can actually
Even iPhones made in India (without any of the import taxes and stuff) are still priced higher than most of the American states

[haughty compass]

I was about to say that's cheap until I realized that's liters

[median warren]

For me it's around 185-195 pence per liter, diesel

[empty quartz]

4 litres is roughly 1 gallon

[haughty compass]

Me over here with $3 per gallon

[median warren]

£1.9 per liter is insane

[empty quartz]

Im paying $2.079 cad per litre

[latent gull]

whats that in real money per actual unit?

[median warren]

That's less than £1.9

[restive plinth]

This is the thing
They show the EMI plan in bold and people think that's a good deal.

I have seen people that struggle a lot with their earnings, but will still be okay with spending this much per month on a phone just to show that they have an iPhone. It's sad tbh but it's their money and their choice

[empty quartz]

2.079

[median warren]

£1.9 is like 3 dollars per liter

[latent gull]

thats fake money and fake units

[restive plinth]

A little over a dollar per litre of Petrol here

[haughty compass]

So I just calculate, $3 gallon is like 80 cents a liter right

[empty quartz]

The dumbest thing i see some of the indian people do here is try to finance the latest top spec iphone 17 pro max when they see how much it is before tax

[median warren]

Yeah about that

[snow mauve]

now days you gotta choose between gpu or flagship phone 😄

[iron glen]

Roughly 961,19.61 irani rials per 0.006289811 oil barrels

[haughty compass]

Damn I'm sorry for you Mr ace

[median warren]

Depends on the phone

[haughty compass]

Gas way to expensive for u

[latent gull]

5.74USD/gal, wild, thats california prices

[empty quartz]

Thats why im planning on getting a e-bike or electric motorcycle

[thorn pewter]

In Texas right now its about $3.8

[restive plinth]

If I am getting you right, they try to look at the prices and try to see if they can make it work, but without considering the taxes?

[snow mauve]

i'm in rural az, it's asbout 4.50

phoenix over 5.00

[iron glen]

Oh man what a perfect time
Wanna buy my dirtbike

[haughty compass]

3.06 usd/gal, Georgia 🤑

[latent gull]

ours is slowly creeping up, its close to 3.50 or so right now but its steadily increasing

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/platypus-gif-23897459

[thorn pewter]

ripp

[latent gull]

yeah, but you have to live in georgia

[empty quartz]

They ask how much the top spec is, i tell them, and then they ask for financing, and mention they have poor credit

[ivory mountain]

3.99 here in NC

[snow mauve]

can you handle 7700 feet?

[median warren]

Sure

[thorn pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-the-avengers-mark-ruffalo-bruce-banner-much-worse-gif-15684530

[empty quartz]

Poor credit is an immediate denial from the company my work uses for financing

[haughty compass]

Yeah it's nice. I live near the largest airport so I can fly almost anywhere direct flight. And we get decent amount of events here

[snow mauve]

i was raised in NC. fayettenam

[plain cypress]

We checking gas prices?

[latent gull]

you keep making it worse

[iron glen]

My condolences

[haughty compass]

Wdym?

[snow mauve]

my dad was a ft bragg boy

[ivory mountain]

NC is so far away from NC

[thorn pewter]

time to go to spicewood

[haughty compass]

[iron glen]

Foot grab boy?

[plain cypress]

Oregon

[restive plinth]

Ahh yeah makes sense

[snow mauve]

when you realize in hindsight your friends dads were sf/rangers/delta/assassins

[odd marsh]

brutal

[empty quartz]

@haughty compass the funny thing, i can either drive my honda and periodically get something nice for myself or drive my trailblazer and not be able to afford insurance every month

[snow mauve]

my dad was 82nd airborne, i was 101st. clearly a rivalry 🙂

[odd marsh]

@plain cypress I'm sitting at 3.89 and 4.99

[empty quartz]

My trailblazer is horrible on gas, and insurance for it is like $300 a month

[plain cypress]

$33.06 on gas this month, brutal

[snow mauve]

300/mo for one car?

[empty quartz]

Rookie

[snow mauve]

are you either under 21 or have a dui? lol

[odd marsh]

wait that seems pretty good? The month is almost over

[iron glen]

I love not having to pay for fuel

[plain cypress]

Oh no, I live close to work
Whatever shall I do

[haughty compass]

Bro I miss when gas was $2 😭

[snow mauve]

i dont miss the 1 hour each way commute .

[odd marsh]

I think I spend about $100 on gas each month but it depends

[empty quartz]

Thats not accounting for the refund, i just use tap, so it takes $200

[snow mauve]

i've done la traffic, dc traffic, denver traffic, st louis traffic, austin traffic, sf traffic. i hate it all lol

i literally had my life being sucked away on the road

[latent gull]

yeah my monthly fillup has gone from 20$ to 40$, it sucks, but not gonna break my bank :P

cause i live 20 minutes from work

[odd marsh]

@plain cypress what's your MPG again

[plain cypress]

18-20

[median warren]

So far I've spent £115 on fuel this month

[iron glen]

@odd marsh how long has gandalf been your pfp

[median warren]

Diesel

[odd marsh]

oh ok, I'm about the same in my 2014

[median warren]

55 mpg btw

[odd marsh]

good question at least a year, if not longer

[iron glen]

Just now realized its gandalf

[latent gull]

i know your pfp is gandalf but its so small it always just looks like a bed sheet ghost

[odd marsh]

that's the issue with Discord PFPs isn't it

[plain cypress]

Hacks

[latent gull]

i mean, mines pretty recognizable :P

[odd marsh]

I look at someones PFP and when I actually look closely it's something completely else

[median warren]

Nah just efficient European engineering

[odd marsh]

clefable?

[median warren]

2014 Audi A4 2.0 turbo diesel engine

[iron glen]

Mines pretty easily distinguishable id say

[empty quartz]

Heres how much i spent on gas in march

[odd marsh]

yeah it's pretty easy to tell

[median warren]

Let me see what my worst month was for gas spending

[latent gull]

when tf did you spend 72$ on gas?

[odd marsh]

that's like a full tank for me now sadly

[empty quartz]

Before the whole war, i would spend like $13-23 cad on a 200km drive

[median warren]

Yeah that's not too shabby

[empty quartz]

Only using like 13-15l on average

[median warren]

For me I spent £42 ISH for a... 450 mile drive

Before war

[iron glen]

Does canada have a news segment called "what are the neighbors up to now?"

[latent gull]

a whole tank for me now is 40$ish and it can do between 320-350 miles depending on how i drive

[empty quartz]

No, we’re largely affected in terms of gas prices by the us of a when it comes to the orange man’s shenanigans

[median warren]

Thats so cheap wtf

For me an entire tank BEFORE the war was £85

[latent gull]

its a small tank

[median warren]

Yeah I can imagine

[latent gull]

only a mid size suv

[iron glen]

Idk if everyone is largely affected but everyone is definitely affected

[empty quartz]

On a really good day, i can only use like 5.7l/100km in my honda

[odd marsh]

damn, what car

[latent gull]

toyota rav4

[odd marsh]

wow

[haughty compass]

Sorry to interrupt the convo but does anyone know how I can fix this? I don't want to use ddu again and try again because for some reason Nvidia literally won't detect my gpu... I took hours to finally be able to get this old version of experience to work... And even then I can't install the Nvidia app for example cus it still just gives me error

[latent gull]

gets lik 23mpg around town and if i treat it nice on the highway i get like 27-30

[empty quartz]

@latent gull ive literally never had to fully fill my tank from empty because my honda is fucking amazing on gas

[haughty compass]

Bro I drive my mom's car and ts the most gas hungry thing in the world... Like 21 mpg on roads and 18mpg on highway

[latent gull]

ive had to fill it from 20 miles left, the low fuel light has only come on once, and it was cause i was too lazy and couldnt be asked to fill up in the rain one day

[iron glen]

Lwk feel bad for the truckers and their "litre to the metre" machines

[empty quartz]

@latent gull @haughty compass heres my usual economy. Its a bit worse than usual, but thats because i haven’t cleaned the air filter yet

[split laurel]

Nvidia drivers are really bad on the 50s my 5080 couldn't run cs2 probably gonna have to try ddu or just use older drivers

[empty quartz]

This is with a clean filter

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/kia-soul-kia-soul-my-beloved-hollyweencandy-my-beloved-gif-19820271

[plain cypress]

19 mpg since I started logging in January

[odd marsh]

interesting

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/samsung-galaxy-s5-s5-mini-my-beloved-gif-959086288472795690

[gaunt spade]

who do they build with this shitty psu still

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/costco-hot-dog-150-my-beloved-costco-hotdog-my-beloved-gif-4315337909445947152

[odd marsh]

peak

[odd marsh]

yeah I have a 19.5 gallon tank, and a supposed 20mpg average but it does not feel like it

[empty quartz]

@odd marsh what kind of car & engine?

[plain cypress]

Crying with 12 gallons on a good day

[odd marsh]

2014 Nissan Pathfinder, one of the hybrid 4 cylinders

[plain cypress]

Have you found your path with it yet?

[hexed tapir]

My mostly highway miles 3.1 v6 car from 1994 gets 22-23

[plain cypress]

I'm all city bb

City and idling

Lots of super short trips

I hear it's great for the engine

[odd marsh]

nope still looking

I think the transmission is giving out though, typical Nissan

[latent gull]

those cvts are super reliable

[hexed tapir]

Do you not do regular like 20k miles cvt oil changes

[odd marsh]

afaik the transmission in this car has never been serviced, other then when it blew up at 40K

[latent gull]

40k? damn, usually they give out closer to 80, mustve been a lemon

[hexed tapir]

The all mighty AI says 30-60k

[odd marsh]

yeah luckily we got it replaced under warranty, the current one is at about 120K

I'm just not touching the transmission now as I think the current oil has turned into glue that is holding it together

but everything else in the car is serviced within proper intervals

[hexed tapir]

So cvt Nissan owners should change it ever 7-10 regular oil changes if you change your oil every 5k miles

[odd marsh]

yeah this car is fucked

I can feel the engine "shudder" at times

[plain cypress]

My transmission is actually just hamsters

[odd marsh]

so does that mean your transmission will die a horrible death like other hamsters

[plain cypress]

Real life photo of my car

[plain cypress]

The smell is awful

[proper gull]

Japan

Korean car

[odd marsh]

same shit different smell /s

[plain cypress]

Pixel studio anime preset

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/road-trip-gif-24032534

[plain cypress]

Anyways the soul is kill

[sleek ibex]

Me and the homeboys on a roadtrip

[plain cypress]

But the fucking Hyundai venue is still alive on the same platform for some reason???

[hexed tapir]

My brothers hamster died a death from 2 wall throws , bit him the so he hucked it at the wall, he picked up the injured hamster and it bit him again so it met God on the second throw

[odd marsh]

what the fuck

typical hamster death though

[plain cypress]

Kia has seltos which seems to be taking the place of the soul
I don't see any Hyundai on seltos platform so I guess the venue/soul platform will continue to live under Hyundai until they build a Hyundai on seltos platform

[odd marsh]

personally I just think they should get rid of all the shoe cars

Flex, Soul and all those things

[hexed tapir]

We should get rid of SUVs even more so for compact SUVs

[plain cypress]

Or maybe they're different platforms doesn't matter the soul is dead fucking rip

[odd marsh]

no more hamsters

[median warren]

I agree

[hexed tapir]

Make station wagons great again

[stray portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889349880152195135/1246758173621223450/togif-1-4-1.gif

[snow mauve]

even the hideous ones with the wood panels?

[deep musk]

Kia soulless

[hexed tapir]

They are sexy

[median warren]

We're back

Discord API was bugging

First message in tech chat 1, GG

[snow mauve]

hey all in case you didnt just know, discord was down 😛

[haughty compass]

I used ddu and now I can't even install the drivers again

Bro I'm gonna crash out in 😭 😭

[stray portal]

Why is discord tweaking out

[latent gull]

drugs probably

[shy whale]

Had to deactivate my Tailscale, then it worked again...

[tulip sparrow]

hmm several servers are showing up with a ! on them and yeah I am on normal internet here

This one is back bnut others are still dead looks like Discord has an oputage somehwere

[prisma adder]

Tada

Not sure if the smudges are from my fingers or not

[sleek remnant]

lol

[tulip sparrow]

We all good now?

[prisma adder]

I was told to take the motherboard out of the case to put on the cooler

But I'm gonna try it within

[obtuse yew]

all of my servers are slowly shitting themselves

[deep musk]

Only big ones are hitting the floor

[empty quartz]

Thats discord for ya

[empty quartz]

@odd marsh

[odd marsh]

it's fineeee

[obtuse yew]

yeah I was tryna type here and it died again

[spare pewter]

yea I saw that and tried to load in here to discuss it and was greeted with no channels in one window, but in my other window i can connect fine? but when i refreshed my browser tab on my portrait monitor it's just stuck loading still lol

and some things in the server here are still broken like the member list

[snow mauve]

question is, is it discord itself or higher up cloudflare. cloudflare DOES sh ow an active situation regarding duplicate xff headers BUT I don't see that directly related to this issue

[frigid blade]

discord borked

[snow mauve]

expect things beyond discord potentially...

[fringe prairie]

W speed

[frail sequoia]

Uh....... what the fuck i disabled bitlocker

All I did was disabled secure boot

[split laurel]

What cpu is that the videos compression through discord is to blurred to read the text lol

[frail sequoia]

It says 7700x

[split laurel]

Don't we jus love windows

[prisma adder]

yes

[prisma adder]

Yeah video be arse

I'm on the Samsung 24

[split laurel]

I had a s24 plus before my zfold 7 camera isn't bad Im also on mobile data rn so my videos are at like 480p

[prisma adder]

Oh that's very cool! This is auctually my first ever phone I got around my birthday

20 year old with his first phone

[frail sequoia]

Its time for arch

[prisma adder]

No one believes me and thinks I have had other phones- but yeah no never had a phone even through Highschool

[deep musk]

Oof epic embed fail

[split laurel]

Damn thats impressive

[prisma adder]

Will power

Also robotics and game dev had me on a hook in school

[bold kindle]

it's ironic that people say OLED has poor text readability, but it's my old asus IPS that is struggling on that front now that im comparing in a dimmed setting.

one of my fav things so far is that i can have the oled however dimmed i want, and everything is as clear as day, if i move the dimmed window over to my IPS, it becomes a grey mess.

[normal blade]

Finally sold my iPad

Got me a Lenovo 300e 2nd gen, wasn’t my choice tho cuz I got it for free

Hit 9 hours of battery with cachyos

That’s more than double the iPad

[deep musk]

Good

[normal blade]

I didn’t like how limiting the iPad was

[frail sequoia]

😭

I have arch now tho

[restive plinth]

You probably have it enabled in like one or two drives

Anyways you must have the key synced to your ms account

[frail sequoia]

I do, deleted windows and ARCH WONT LET ME CONFIGURE MY DISPLAY, CON ECT TO BLUETOOTH AND CONNECT TO WIFI WHAT YHE FUCK

[ivory mountain]

arch moment

[frail sequoia]

Im boutta CRASH THE FUCK OUT

[median warren]

Early birthday gift

[ivory mountain]

happy bday

[median warren]

It's on may 12th

[stark flicker]

Yeah this is such a neat thing with oled I agree

[gaunt spade]

it will all be fine

[stark flicker]

Arch never not let you do anything, you just don't know how to do it

You can go in #linux to ask for help

[deep musk]

Nicey

[shy ice]

I understand now why LTT true spec cables are so important. I spent 10 minutes rummaging through my drawer of different cables blindly checking each one until I found one that did what I needed it to. None of them have any markings.

[stark flicker]

Yeah it's annoying, though you don't need ltt true spec cable but just good cables and mark them yourself

But they are nice sure

[shy ice]

My best quality cable is the shortest one that came from Samsung

[steep heath]

is it noticeable the preformance, gain if you stop rununing everything off one drive?

[stark flicker]

No

[gaunt spade]

just mark ur cables

[boreal vine]

just me or was this server inaccesible an hour ago?

[south arrow]

Was bugged for an hour or so

[stray portal]

Me when i use a purposefuly hard os and then complain its hard

[gaunt spade]

mustve been the wind

https://giphy.com/gifs/sticker-nazoom-mustve-been-gxL7Ny6ze4JFAzm9mZ

[fickle ivy]

God 2.4ghz wifi sucks

[median warren]

It's so fucking good

I edited the equaliser a little bit

It's so good

[deep musk]

I love my xm5

[median warren]

They're so good

[gilded harness]

Cook brooo

[median warren]

Look at the %...

There's no way

I can't escape it

[gilded harness]

folk ✌️

[median warren]

I found this on Reddit (best source ik) and it sounds really good

[tulip sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eLGIqya7g4o

[frail sequoia]

Its not that

Its the first time arch hasn't let me connect to wifi, bluetooth and the display drivers not working

So imma get cachyOS

Since I used it before (for about a month)

[shy ice]

Why does auto update never work on Xbox

[frail sequoia]

Cause it doesnt

[shy ice]

Auto update is a lie. It is pain trying to play any modern game on Xbox because there’s always an update

Steam somehow has flawless auto update. I never had a problem with it

[hoary tree]

Damn, YouTube premium is cheap af in my country

It’s just 8 bucks

[stray portal]

Did windows update cursors? I had the colored cursor specifically because it had the thicker outlines...

[haughty compass]

I tried ddu, I reinstalled drivers. But only one specific version of Nvidia experience works on the pc and rest just don't detect my gpu. But then this version won't update 😭 😭

What do I do

I've spent since last night trying to fix this

[median warren]

What GPU do you have

[latent gull]

year of the linux desktop moment

[deep musk]

@sharp ivy I think it was with you that we were arguing with someone about the thermaltake 500watts smart psu, linus literally recommended for budget pcs in the last video, we were right, it's not catastrophic https://youtu.be/koZcaQHNBPI?si=60NoO67NH5E8Fg3W

[deep musk]

@gaunt spade I think it was you that was firmly against that psu

[sharp ivy]

twas him

[deep musk]

yeah, so weren't crazy, the psu is fine

[empty quartz]

Its funny how sony still holds the crown for the highest res phone display

(I dont really count foldables because thats 2 separate displays)

[median warren]

@deep musk why did my xm6 just talk to me? It said "it's 12am" as soon as it turned 12

[haughty compass]

1080ti

[deep musk]

wtf?? never got this from mine, might a new thing with the xm6, check in the setting app

[vast otter]

https://youtu.be/fiRMfnB6rdw?si=_Q1sYt8HihMIv-qq

[median warren]

Nvidia has ended Game Ready driver updates for GTX 10-series (Pascal) GPUs, with the final optimized driver release occurring in October 2025.

That should be in quotation marks

But yeah, no longer supported, that's why you probably can't update it

[median warren]

Yeah I was so confused 😭😭

[boreal tiger]

Can't the open source community take over? And provide drivers?

[median warren]

Uhm not sure about that one and I don't know if people will

Either way, driver support has ended for the 10 series

So solved the guy's issue at least

[frail sequoia]

Bonk

[median warren]

Also that's a lot of work for people, so I doubt it but not impossible

[boreal tiger]

But 1080 ti is still useable

[median warren]

Yeah but no drivers

Also it is USABLE, but there are games now which demand at least 20 series card

So the 10 series as suggested by Nvidia dropping support for it, is being fizzled out

[boreal tiger]

11gb vram is still very good

Especially for local LLMs

[grizzled frost]

11?

[boreal tiger]

1080ti has 11gb vram

[median warren]

Yeah

[median warren]

Yeah

But 12gb versions exist of the 3060, 5060, then there's the £300 b580 with 12gb too

Then there's the £400 9060xt too

There's just better cards than the 1080ti that will last you longer and will perform better and still being cheap

[frigid blade]

You can always indefinitely borrow a GPU from someone else

[median warren]

1080ti and 10 series had its glory days, but you have to remember, it's an 8 year old card...

[frigid blade]

If you’re doing LLM stuff it’s probably cheaper to rent out a 4090 lol

It’s like $1/hour

[deep musk]

@vapid ibex is this you?https://youtube.com/shorts/OE_cPVOe2uY?si=ccFDfj75ChYc4Yg0

[deep musk]

yeah but dead driver support

[frigid blade]

Oh wait you guys are talking about locally running models, I thought you meant training

[frigid blade]

Just put 8 in SLI

[median warren]

They were talking about the 1080ti and how it's still usable

And yeah to some extent it is

[deep musk]

I have a 1080 and a 980 and a 1030 in my server, very usefull for vms, only reason why I use them

[median warren]

@deep musk do your ears get sweaty with the xm5

Mine do

[deep musk]

yes, the cushion get hot sometimes

[boreal tiger]

Yeah I think people should start making their own drivers

[median warren]

Is there a wickedcushion or cooling gel replacement I wonder

[boreal tiger]

Where?

[median warren]

As if that was easy

[deep musk]

not to my knowledge

[frigid blade]

vast.ai

[deep musk]

on linux, maybe

[boreal tiger]

Trust me there are geniuses around who can do that

[frigid blade]

A 5090 is 30 cents per hour

[deep musk]

really? damn

[boreal tiger]

Oh wow

[median warren]

Yeah but why would they start supporting a dead platform

[frigid blade]

Yah, for non permanent stuff it’s quite cheap

Obviously it adds up over time

[deep musk]

I got used to it really fast tho

[boreal tiger]

So two hours of gaming will cost me 1 dollar?

[deep musk]

linux mad scientist might

[frigid blade]

RTX Pro 6000 is $1.21/hour

[median warren]

https://wickedcushions.com/products/sony-wh1000xm6-replacement-earpads lmao

[frigid blade]

You do not get a display like you think, it’s a console, it’s mainly for AI stuff

[deep musk]

I never found any for mines qwq

[boreal tiger]

Cuz the hardware is still wide spread and very capable

[median warren]

Maybe only for xm6

[frigid blade]

You have to enable VNC or stuff like that

[deep musk]

mayb

[boreal tiger]

Cloud gaming ☁️

[median warren]

Yeah I don't think they will but it's also not impossible

[frigid blade]

I mean it already exists

[boreal tiger]

Not for 1 dollar

[frigid blade]

I actually have $4.41 worth of credits

Let me see if I can get a remote stream into it

gonna see how this goes

[median warren]

5090

From fucking china

[haughty compass]

No I literally had it updated like 2 weeks ago in my current PC until I upgraded my gpu

U can Def update them

[median warren]

But they also definitely ended support for them

[haughty compass]

And they're still releasing security patches for the next 2 years

So there will still be more updates

[median warren]

Well I can't imagine that having an outdated card helps your issue tho, driver support has officially ended in October of 2025 so that probably has something to do with your issue

But I'm not sure

[frigid blade]

yur

[haughty compass]

I believe the issue to be relating to the version of GeForce experience I'm on

[median warren]

Yoghurt

[haughty compass]

But the issue is the drivers won't install on any other version, even the ones that Nvidia recommends

[frigid blade]

its also cheap af if youre not running the GPU, its down to only $0.072/hour if youre not using the GPU actively

its on demand

[haughty compass]

The version I'm on is from 2018 and it doesn't seem to want to update to a newer onr

[median warren]

That is strange

[grizzled frost]

i wish offering GPU compute made money

[median warren]

Iroh is typing send my beloved gif

[grizzled frost]

every site i looked at had abysmal pricing

[median warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1498648214633713734/heart-locket-8f0e116e.gif

[frigid blade]

i mean it obviously does if people do it

https://tenor.com/view/iroh-my-beloved-beloved-heart-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-27121731

[grizzled frost]

I mean from a consumer, using a middleman perspective

i'm talking like 7c an hour

[frigid blade]

well yah, but its 7c/hour more than you wouldve gotten not doing it

[grizzled frost]

factor in the electricity cost though

and 7c an hour is only if you have a top spec card, if you have a more reasonable card you're looking at 1c to .5c an hour

4090/5090 gets you 7c an hour

[frigid blade]

wdym, its 30c/hour+ for 5090

or do you mean the company, ie vast takes the majority of that?

[grizzled frost]

Yeah, i mean the middle man takes a lot

[frigid blade]

thats dumb

[median warren]

It is

Israel strike avast next

[frigid blade]

this vm is taking forever to start

[median warren]

You guys ever accidentally cut yourself with a graphics card before, I have

[frigid blade]

i dont touch my gpu enough for that to happen

[median warren]

The good old 3070 took some blood with it before I let it go

[grizzled frost]

okay i have real numbers,
4090 makes on average 19.5c/hour
5090 makes on average 24c/hour
P100 makes 1c/hour
4080S makes 6.4c/hour

if you don't have a 4090/5090, the pricing just makes zero sense

[median warren]

Wow I can make a dollar in about 20 hours

[grizzled frost]

now subtract electricity cost

[haughty compass]

Iroh do you by chance know what I could to be able to fix my gpu not updating...? My pc will only install this specific version as all the newer ones just say I don't have a compatible gpu

[median warren]

Wow I can make negative 5 dollars in 20 hours

[grizzled frost]

i know what the problem is, stop using geforce experience and use the NVIDIA app

[haughty compass]

I can't it doesn't detect my gpu

[grizzled frost]

what gpu

[median warren]

1080ti

[haughty compass]

1080ti

[frigid blade]

just download the last supported driver from their website

[median warren]

It ended driver support in October 2025

[grizzled frost]

try installing the drivers directly without the use of the app

[haughty compass]

I did thay

[haughty compass]

Installed the 1080ti drivers from Nvidia and they don't work

[grizzled frost]

did you install the 1080ti driver?

[haughty compass]

Yep

[frigid blade]

596?

isnt that like current drivers

[grizzled frost]

doubt, 596.36 is the current driver, which the 1080ti doesn't support

[haughty compass]

That's what the website gave me after putting in 1080ti

[grizzled frost]

for me, it's about 17c/kWh, so if i ran my 4080S for one day, i'd earn about $1.54, and spend $1.31 in electricity, a net profit of 23c

[frigid blade]

its not

[grizzled frost]

Just looked it up myself, you definitely did something wrong on the site

cause i got the same result as daniel

[haughty compass]

I clicked find on the Nvidia webeite

And downloaded what came up

[grizzled frost]

you have to search for the 1080ti

[haughty compass]

Yes that's what I did

[grizzled frost]

screenshot the page

[frigid blade]

obviously not because i didnt get the same result lol

[haughty compass]

I entered 1080 and selected 1080ti windows 11

[haughty compass]

I'm not on it rn

[grizzled frost]

go look it up then mate

[haughty compass]

Ok

[frigid blade]

you selected one of these?

[haughty compass]

I put this in

[grizzled frost]

now click find, what does it then show

[haughty compass]

OK bruh istg it did not show this

[grizzled frost]

kek

[haughty compass]

I did the same exact thint

[grizzled frost]

kek

[frigid blade]

yah you miss clicked or something

[median warren]

G G

[grizzled frost]

happens to the best of us, just be glad it's an easy fix

[median warren]

Multi hour, multi headache solved with a few clicks

[haughty compass]

I somehow ended up with a billion other versions that wasn't the one I needrd

[median warren]

It's okay dude, happens to all of us as they've said

[grizzled frost]

you have no idea how many times i've banged my head against a wall for hours trying to fix something, i finally ask for help, and someone goes "did you try X step" and i'm like "YEAH OF COURSE I DID THAT", then i try it again, and it works

still better than it being a painful fix

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/i-suppose-gif-24625286

I still did have to go through this tho

[grizzled frost]

i've spent about 12 hours aggregate trying to get a server to work, just to find out something on it is dead and there's nothing i can do to fix it

yeah, that hurts

mind you that also represents about a 400usd investment

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-fade-smile-fade-to-dumb-happy-to-straight-face-smile-fade-to-shock-smile-fade-to-curious-gif-4098180333973202457

[grizzled frost]

Be happy there is a solution, and it was easy

[haughty compass]

Ty

[grizzled frost]

Happy to help, i'm just glad it's working now

[haughty compass]

I don't think I would have tried that again if u hadn't said

[grizzled frost]

Sometimes you just need to have someone else come in to give you a fresh perspective

At work i'll grab someone new whenever i have a problem and let them have a crack at it, or at least come up with ideas

they might not find the answer, but they very likely will help me think up some new idea

[haughty compass]

Yknow that's such a good way to go about thinga

[grizzled frost]

Also gives the new folks experience, it's a win-win situation

[carmine yew]

Print your own custom keypads?

[grizzled frost]

Works well enough for a single layer PCB, i'm curious to see where this goes though

for PCB design it's a nice idea, helps a lot with turn around time

print out PCB, try it, fix a problem, print the new rev, repeat

[carmine yew]

Hundred percent

[grizzled frost]

instead of order PCB, wait 3-4 days, try it, fix problem, order new PCB, wait another 3-4 days, repeat

[carmine yew]

Get 3 revs in a day instead of 2-3 weeks

[latent gull]

it is kinda funny how "you dont need a special machine, just a 3d printer"

[grizzled frost]

Depending on the size and the printer you're using, you could probably get 5-6 revs in a day

[carmine yew]

They're totally commodity today

[grizzled frost]

the amount of things you can just 3d print nowadays is insane

[latent gull]

sure,its just funny how a 3d printer isnt even considered a special machine anymore, even though id be willing to be a majority of households still dont have the,

[grizzled frost]

also cuts down on the e-waste, since most PCB manufacturers have a minimum batch size of like 5

now you only have 1 bad PCB per rev instead of 5

[latent gull]

like, they are still a fairly expensive special piece of machinery for an everyday person

[carmine yew]

Bambu A1 mini as an entry is like 200$ on sale. Far from unreasonable

[grizzled frost]

300usd and you have a printer and some filament, and you're off to the races

Bambu printers are pretty plug and play as well, so it's easy to get someone with no experience to use it by themselves

[carmine yew]

I got my printer for free

[grizzled frost]

Obviously you don't get the biggest, or highest quality prints from a A1 mini, but for the vast majority of people, it's plenty

Spend a bit more and you get an A1, that's a 256mm^3 printable area

[carmine yew]

I usually suggest the A1 over the mini due to size

[latent gull]

not unreasonable, no, still not ubiquitous though

[grizzled frost]

yeah, the A1 mini becomes obsolete kinda quick due to the small size, A1 is the perfect entry level printer

256mm^3 is comparable to most more expensive printers, and it does just fine

300usd for that is an insane deal

A1 mini would still be plenty for most people, but spending 100usd more gets you so much more printable area

[carmine yew]

And it's what, 150 for the 4 color ams?

[grizzled frost]

100usd if you buy it with the printer, 400usd total for the combo

stand alone it's 200usd (on sale)