tech-chat-1

[fringe prairie]

core ultra x7 and x9

[deep musk]

ohhhhh

[fringe prairie]

but hey x3 means better igpu sooooo

[median warren]

Furries are gonna love that one

[serene pumice]

Slackware

[median warren]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-talking-hohoho-talking-ben-laugh-gif-25277063

I have no idea about Linux, I'd like to state that for the record

[midnight wind]

don't use linux just use freebsd instead

[empty quartz]

:3

[median warren]

Don't use Linux, use macos

Trust

[iron ruin]

O U C H

[median warren]

Not horrendous

Xbox elite controller costs more

[ivory mountain]

xbox elite is horse shit

[median warren]

Ye but one of the most popular and probably most bought controllers that go for above or similar price to the steam controller

So comparing it to that

The steam controller is good value

[ivory mountain]

controllers arent worth it if they dont have hall effect, simple

[median warren]

Halls aren't worth it if they don't have effects

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-meme-funny-one-piece-writing-gif-5206510315195397953

[median warren]

Literally me btw

You could have also ended your sentence at "controllers arent worth it"

To be truly pc master privileged

[ivory mountain]

i play everything on controller except fortnite

[median warren]

Honestly I love them for racing games

But guess what controller I use

A custom Xbox elite controller from 2018

With 1 thumbstick missing

And no rubber grips BC they came off

Almost 10 years and it still has 0 stick drift

[deep musk]

I'm gonna cry https://youtu.be/tiCc6eez7FA?si=7UDlkIKg0arokXCf

32gb of ddr5 being 100 USD

qwq

[sweet fiber]

god i thought that cooler was a vantec aeroflow and i was about to cry

it might have been Linus' first aftermarket cooler? I forget

[deep musk]

it looks so much like it

[deep musk]

yessss it was

[sweet fiber]

it took me like 5 years to find one but i finally have it

i haven't powered it on yet but i don't have a socket 478 system to use it in either 💔

[deep musk]

awww nuuuu

[chrome cosmos]

anyone here have an oled monitor? Im curious if its worth the prince. My 34" ultrawide died toda and I am looking to get a replacement. but are olded worth double the price?

[sweet fiber]

just oled or any version of oled

[chrome cosmos]

honestly im not sure of the differences

[sweet fiber]

my last purchase was a qd oled and while it sucked that i had to RMA it (alienware 2725df) the colors are the best thing i have seen since CRTs

[chrome cosmos]

rma it?

[sweet fiber]

i am colorblind and it has been a huge upgrade

[sleek ibex]

Did linus put an Alphacool metal fan on an LP cooler?

[deep musk]

yep

[sweet fiber]

it went into a test mode by itself and never came out of it so i had to send it back to dell

[deep musk]

noctua lp cooler

[median warren]

Fucking love Spain, I love their funny little language

What a neat little country

[deep musk]

spannish?

[median warren]

Yes

[deep musk]

oh oki

[median warren]

Very funny language

I actually spent the last 20 seconds reading Spanish words and dying of laughter as I pronounced them

[chrome cosmos]

is there one that you would recommend. It seems like this dell is on sale for a decent price. At least i think its a decent price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F6724X5N?tag=hardwunbox-20&th=1&geniuslink=true

[median warren]

I don't know what it is about the word amigo that just makes me laugh

[deep musk]

it means friend

[sweet fiber]

wow my monitor is like half the price i paid for it now ☠️

[deep musk]

(basically)

[median warren]

Yeah I know, just the pronunciation is funny to me

[frigid blade]

ah me go

[median warren]

Welcome to the club

[chrome cosmos]

damn. My old one was too. but its a VA panel

[deep musk]

[frigid blade]

displays are really the only electronic that goes down in price consistently

[sweet fiber]

flat panels at least

[chrome cosmos]

I mean i can get a VA panel that is also an ultrawide for 300

[sweet fiber]

i still use a crt at work every day

[chrome cosmos]

so i am having a hard time convincing myself that oled is worth it

[median warren]

Time to buy oled

[sweet fiber]

have you used IPS before

[frigid blade]

you can get an oled 1440p for like $350 if you shop around

[sweet fiber]

34"?

[deep musk]

va panel isn't worth it for 300, that's a scam (basically)

[median warren]

Nah maybe not 34

[chrome cosmos]

yes but not for an ultrawide 🙁

[sweet fiber]

yea i think they are looking for 34" specifically

[chrome cosmos]

at least not that I have found

[chrome cosmos]

yeah...

[sweet fiber]

all of the times i jumped panel technologies it felt like a good investment to me

(except crt to lcd)

like tn lol

tn -> va -> ips -> qd oled

[sleek ibex]

There are now quality 4K panels that are OLED (and other OLED variants) that are cheaper than how much I paid for my LG 27GN950 5 years ago

[chrome cosmos]

im open to recommendations

[median warren]

Get more money

Buy 42 inch ultrawide

[chrome cosmos]

sheeeeet

[median warren]

They're sexy

[knotty osprey]

mhhhm quality

[median warren]

Tandem oled

[sweet fiber]

i will not lie, i do wish my monitors were 4:3, like a 4:3 qd oled

i miss the vertical space

[median warren]

Yes me too

[frigid blade]

$320 after tax and cash back i got my gf a 1440p 240Hz qd-oled monitor 27 inch though
new on bestbuy

[deep musk]

[sweet fiber]

is tandem oled better than qd oled

i haven't looked into it

[frigid blade]

yah it is

[median warren]

Yeah

But like qd oled is really good too

This is like the difference between hmmm do I get a 5080 or a 5090

[frigid blade]

i just got it because it was really cheap

[sweet fiber]

speaking of i just got two GTX 690s recently

[frigid blade]

why

[median warren]

69 nice

[sweet fiber]

to live the dream of 4 way SLI

these were the days man

[frigid blade]

isnt anything above 2 with SLI not worth it because of the performance decrease from overhead

[sweet fiber]

i want to go back to that time but not be a kid with no money

[sweet fiber]

there are some rare cases where it's actually good but yeah for the most part it is stupid

[knotty osprey]

Anyone got opinions on Sonys new DRM crap?

[median warren]

4 way sli with 1080tis

[sweet fiber]

i miss dual GPU cards

[median warren]

That's what I want

I miss missing something

Give me something to miss

[sweet fiber]

8 way SLI

[frigid blade]

just nvlink 2 3090tis

[median warren]

Honestly

[median warren]

1080ti the legendary card, most notorious card in history and also 4 of them probably cheaper than a 3090 lmao

[frigid blade]

yah but whats the performance like

[median warren]

Dunno but 3 1080ti s hold the world record

For some benchmark I can't remember

It's unbelievable that 1080tis are still at the top of the leaderboard

[sweet fiber]

i think 8 way SLI slayed iirc because the voodoo2 had excellent scaling

but i would have to go back and check

[median warren]

Slayed?

[sweet fiber]

like actually did well

[median warren]

Are you a 19 year old white girl who goes to starbucks 3 times a day

#slayqueen

[sweet fiber]

i can be 🥺

[median warren]

You're just fine the way you are

[frigid blade]

your pfp looks like someone from a show i watched as akid

[sweet fiber]

the backyardigans

[frigid blade]

yah that

[fringe prairie]

yes easily

[frigid blade]

i didnt know crocs had sandals

i thought they were just crocs

[sweet fiber]

if i won the lottery i would start up a CRT R&D and manufacturing company

we need them with today's manufacturing

[frigid blade]

why

[sweet fiber]

16K 3840Hz CRT

[ivory mountain]

in the place where we belong where we'll probably sing a song and we'll maybe dance along

[sweet fiber]

driven by your 6090

[frigid blade]

do you know how large that would be to hold the vacuum

[sweet fiber]

nah i am saying we get more precise

the dot pitch is far improved

maybe we use advanced photolithography or something for the masks i am not sure

we could also throw more guns in rather than just 1

[frigid blade]

less than .2mm

[median warren]

Excuse me?

£515

For a card that doesn't receive driver support anymore

[sweet fiber]

how much does a 1080ti go for now

i remember buying one for like $1000 at launch (EVGA)

[sharp ivy]

with cool blower fans and see-through panels

[ivory mountain]

god damn ur old

[median warren]

To be fair there are cheaper ones

[frigid blade]

i saw one for $80 on fbmp

[median warren]

He's from 2002 that is not old

[sweet fiber]

nah i got lots of christmas money

[median warren]

I'm 2003 I was there when it launched just didn't get it cause I got 1070

[sharp ivy]

still pretty cool

[sweet fiber]

i had an evga 1070 before that

[frigid blade]

my first gpu was a 1060 3gb

[sharp ivy]

I bought my first gaming pc in 2024

[sweet fiber]

i remember when the economy was good to allow dumb upgrades like that

[sharp ivy]

GTX 1060

[median warren]

Mine was in 2018

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/brushing-sand-off-nat-geo-explores-paleontology-fossils-dinosaur-fossils-gif-18644634

[median warren]

Yeah we all started the 10 series it seems

[sweet fiber]

2014

[median warren]

I went from 1070 zotac, to aorus 3070 (£1000 during GPU shortage times) to an asus tuf 4080 super (also £1000)

[frigid blade]

1060 3gb -> 3070 Ti -> 4090

[median warren]

Fair

[frigid blade]

I still have all 3

[median warren]

Nah I sold mine

[frigid blade]

Well, my gf uses the 3070 Ti for her pc

[median warren]

3070 is in my friends pc (that I built for him)

[frigid blade]

she had a 2060 so it was an ok boost for free

[median warren]

We're so similar wtf

[median warren]

Yeah noticeable for sure

[ivory mountain]

i went from 3060ti to 5700xt to 6900xt and im getting a 5070ti soon

[median warren]

Interesting path

[frigid blade]

i need to buy her a new one as a gift or something

[median warren]

Nvidia amd amd Nvidia

[median warren]

How much do you love her? Get 9950x3d2

[ivory mountain]

the 3060ti died in like 2022 so i went to a 5700xt temporarily

got a deal on a 6900xt in 2023 for 400 usd

then AMD proceeds to not care about pre-rdna4 card owners anymore so im going back to nvidia, birthday is coming up and i can probably snag a refurb/open box 5070ti

dont really care about the model i dont look at my pc

[deep musk]

Mine was free

[median warren]

All valid reasons and good plan

[median warren]

Grrrrr

[ivory mountain]

mind you the 2080ti, an 8 year old card, still gets native modern-dlss support

[median warren]

I love that card

[ivory mountain]

well not the 2080ti i meant the 3080 oops one gen behind

[sweet fiber]

i went from a pentium 3 or k6-ii to a mobile pentium or celeron to an athlon ii to phenom ii x6 1065t to an fx-8370 to a 6600k to a 6700k to an 8700k and 6850k to 14700k

i have it underclocked but we shall see if i have to buy a new platform sooner than later...

[rose sorrel]

Best laptop for Cad to make 3d printer models I have desktop

[red light]

Just had breakfast

[sacred trout]

Eggs and hot dogs are an unbeatable combo

[alpine heron]

Computer is one again showing a solid white light. Last time clearing CMOS helped. Now no dice

Big regret doing self assembly this time. Can't just huck it at the store when it misbehaves

Lesson learned for next time

B850m riptide mobo.
9800x3d and 9070xt

Any advice?

[sinful cobalt]

is the card properly plugged in?
is it sagging?
are any power connectors loose?

[alpine heron]

Yes. No. No

Does seem to get into this state if left on overnight

[sinful cobalt]

reseat the card entirely

[alpine heron]

Already did to no avail

[sinful cobalt]

are you using a riser

[alpine heron]

No

[sinful cobalt]

did you plug in the port securely
is the monitor on

[alpine heron]

Yes

White light on mobo means "VGA malfunction"

Any chance this is the burnouts folks were getting on this cpu?

[sinful cobalt]

its likely just mobo related

the dead ones were those related to “sleep” and red cpu light

technically red and yellow for dram since the chip isnt alive

[alpine heron]

And can't really test the gpu on another pc due to the stupid new connector

[alpine heron]

No error lights when gpu removed

No output since x3d though

[tulip sparrow]

Did you update bios?

[alpine heron]

I took no direct actions between working and not

Am using win11 so its updates do whatever they please

So theoretically maybe? If win / mobo maker chose to

[gaunt spade]

old man

[alpine heron]

I lied. Didn't give it long enough. Red and yellow

[sinful cobalt]

zen 4 and 5 x3d has igpu

[alpine heron]

Oh? Snazzy didn't know

Taking the gpu out for a bit and leaving it out for a bit maybe has revived it? No solid error lights for noe but also nothing on screen

Are there any good repair places these days? Troubleshooting this I'd pretty frustrating

[sinful cobalt]

just test if the igpu works properly

[alpine heron]

Seems like no?

No display port image at least

[bright surge]

so, hypthetically, its some where around 2008, you have a PC with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700, what GPU are you upgrading it to?

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-gif-2361821020017150027

[bright surge]

hey hey hey, this is for retro PC gaming, lol

and keeping some hardware out of the landfill as long as possible

lol

i COULD pare it with my RX 580 china edition

[deep musk]

What ever is the best gpu that came out in 2008

[alpine heron]

Frick... Removing gpu. igpu works

[bright surge]

but, i would rather save that as a last ditch back up for my more modern systems

[alpine heron]

So high probability it's the gpu? :(

[deep musk]

Maybe

[sinful cobalt]

cant be sure unless gpu tested in another system but for now yes

[alpine heron]

Time to start the rma I guess. Been just under a yesr

[deep musk]

580 china edition?

[bright surge]

uhm, hold on

[deep musk]

Oki doki

[sinful cobalt]

I’d see if theres any friend’s PC to test the card with first

[formal sonnet]

The era-appropriate nVidia 8800 GTS Crysis Edition™, obviously.

[alpine heron]

Warranty is 2 years. Gives me time to try to check stuff

[bright surge]

lol

[deep musk]

Jie shuo tm x3

[alpine heron]

Don't have any nerd friends without 1000 miles

[bright surge]

the 2048SP model

[gaunt spade]

xiao hong shuu

[deep musk]

Start walking, you have 2 years xD

[alpine heron]

How beefy of psu is needed?

Will see if my old pc happens to have cables

[sinful cobalt]

friends family relatives? or just walk into a pc shop and ask if they have a bench for you to test

[alpine heron]

No dice on the old pc. Only have cables for 2x8

[alpine heron]

Nearest family member is 1500 miles away. Nearest friend is over 1000 miles away

Joys of work tossing ya randomly

[sinful cobalt]

find a pc shop and ask if they have a test bench for you to test lol

likely chances they have one to help you

[alpine heron]

Will Google pc shops and try but not in a particularly techcentric spot. There's best buys but figure that's a no go

[deep musk]

Put the new psu in the old pc

[alpine heron]

That'll be a next day I have off me problem

So about 3 weeks from now I'll let y'all know how it goes

[deep musk]

Oki doki, (still a good thing to do in case it’s the cpu’s pcie lanes and/or the mobo’s pcie lanes

[alpine heron]

Or any recommendations for a new psu? To save time taking things out as much?

Scratch that. Will find a store as first option

Second option. Psu rec

Gonna be tedious to figure out how to get the psu into the old case

Has a psu cover thingy making it not obvious how it comes out

They all have bankers hours :( so can't go to a repair shop without taking off work

[manic panther]

Lol it's time to consolidate

There should be like 1 launcher that can launch every game, as a standard

[steel umbra]

use -EpicPortal if you want to run mostly drm-free games without the launcher

[ivory mountain]

i use playnite for that

[manic panther]

We should have another one clearly

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

(I just set up Gog with everything, turns out I only have a handful of games outside of steam or gog anyway so meh)

And of course battle.net doesn't play nice with others

[rose sorrel]

Turned my pc off and on

No I have no RGB

There it goes again turned it off and on again

[mint umbra]

Why is the steam controller price in Canada higher than the exchange rate

[gaunt spade]

cuz timezones

[formal sonnet]

Because "screw you, Canada!" as it has been for all electronics since at least the mid-2000's if not longer.

[steel umbra]

1 usd = 999 cad always

[rapid grail]

yall think winslopr is worth using???

[formal sonnet]

Nope. Install Windows as normal, uninstall the apps you don't need / want, and adjust other Settings as necessary.

[rapid grail]

how so?

[formal sonnet]

I never recommend de-bloating an Operating System using someone else's scripts unless you read through literally every single line of code to ensure it's only doing what you want and nothing else.

[bright surge]

Ka ching

[rapid grail]

i mean i just used it and its fire

[formal sonnet]

Then why bother asking? If you've run it already, any damage is already done.

[bright surge]

Cpu, gpu AND ran for my 20 decade old pc, AQUIRED for $25 us

[shy arch]

Tbh my opinion but i don't wanna download something to remove stuff

[shy arch]

lucky

[rapid grail]

im tryna convince my friend to bc he has a slow pc + its completely safe to use

[bright surge]

EXTREMELY

[steel umbra]

even open source projects can hide malware to the naked eye

you've probably seen the corner tricks

[bright surge]

Saw a listing for the CPU and maybe ram on FB Marketplace for 5, and it snowballed, lol

[shy arch]

sad but true

[steel umbra]

where the whole code is written as usual and then the malware is placed to the most right, in most UIs the code would be displayed without the code until you slide

[bright surge]

Intel core 2 quad, and a radeon card

[formal sonnet]

Just remember, if you break it, you keep both pieces.

[shy arch]

Once I saw an ancient custom pc for $12 on kijiji, it had 4gb ram, some ancient amd cpu i forgot the name of and some 1gb amd gpu. Tbh it would've been really interesting to get since it was some custom, proprietary thing but got sold before i could get it

[bright surge]

Radeon 5830

[bright surge]

Oooooh, interesting

[rapid grail]

i mean you can pick and choose what you want to delete so i see no issue with it. its just more efficient.

[shy arch]

That's not even that bad

[bright surge]

Ye

[shy arch]

I was rocking an HD7730M for a few years in my gaming laptop, which is why I rarely played pc only games at the time

And i didn't feel comfortable jailbreaking my ps4 since that was my main console

Now though I've been blessed with a heavenly 5060 ti

[bright surge]

9070XT

for older GPU fans, were they stiff when you try to spin them?

[frigid blade]

Why do companies still put those warranty void if removed stickers they can’t legally do anything

[bright surge]

to be fair, this IS DDR2, lol

[frigid blade]

Oh I didn’t even realize

[bright surge]

the stickers are MUCH less common on new stuff

[bright surge]

lol, no worries

its 4 WHOLE gigs, lol

[gaunt spade]

the seal that cried

[bright surge]

so, for OLD GPUs, were the fans as free spinning as modern ones if you just spin it with your finger?

Basically, im trying to figure out if this is normal for an old gpu

[golden urchin]

Anyone here have experience on hardware mods for consoles? I dont mean just modchips.

I have a project in mind I want to do but I want to know the limitations of what I can and cant do

[shy arch]

Whats ur question (”Don’t ask to ask, just ask”)

[golden urchin]

I know that I can easily replace a PS4 Pro hard drive with an SSD and replace the thermal paste(possibly with a PTM thermal pad) and use mini copper heatsinks on the ram modules to keep it all as cool as possible too.

Here is what I am wondering what can be changed,
Front USB ports, can I replace a USB port to a C type?
Is it possible to put the whole motherboard in a different housing (such as a pc case)?

Oh, and can I replace the internal fan with something else such as Noctua fans?

[formal sonnet]

Unsure on the USB ports; in theory, if the USB-C ports map to the same pins the existing USB-A ports map to, yes, however, don't expect there to be wiring traces for the full USB-C specification.
As for the PC Case transplant idea, definitely. Just depends on how much effort you're willing to put into it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4Mods/comments/hic8ww/ps4_pro_case_mod/

[bright surge]

ok, based on Linuses old unboxing of the 5830 from Power Color, indicates that the fan SHOULD be free spinning

[formal sonnet]

I believe yes, so long as the replacement fan correctly reports fan speed to the motherboard.

[golden urchin]

Thank you for your input. My ps4 is modded, and I can also change what temps I want it to be, but the fans get loud so its about time for a cleaning

It tries to sit around 70c at idle, which isnt normal

[fallow yacht]

sup nerds

[latent gull]

...wheres the cpu

[prisma adder]

Ragebait builders

In the box

[latent gull]

but why

[golden urchin]

Youre killing me here

[prisma adder]

Because I have no ram or gpu yet

[golden urchin]

[latent gull]

ya know what, yuou dont deserve it

ram privileges revoked

[prisma adder]

Dude I've been building this since 2024

[latent gull]

revoked

[prisma adder]

NOOOOO

[golden urchin]

Since 2024

[elder seal]

something im curious about is if the new steam controller will work for things like xbox, android and iOS devices, etc. i dont think i would mind if it didnt, but MAN would i appreciate having some gyro control while playing something like battlefield 6 with the bois

[latent gull]

i am curious how it will work with stuff like touch controls on the switch

[elder seal]

personally i think gyro controls shine the most when youre playing a game and you have to carefully move your joystick to a veeeeeery specific area to be able to pick something up, and then because your sensitivity is too high or something you end up going left right left right right leleft riiiiiiight GOT IT

[elder seal]

i dont own a switch but i imagine a steam controller would SLAP with the switch lol

then again idk if the switch would wanna take the trackpads as they are, i imagine youd have to pre-emptively bind the trackpads to something before the switch even knows what to do with it

[steel umbra]

skull 8k uhd

[cold skiff]

There was a steam controller in 2015. It had one Haptic Touch pad. Tbh I liked it but it never really took off. I’m not sure why people think the steam controller 2 will be much better for them. It’s not a massive change.

People critiqued that the Haptic Touch pad was too hard to actually use and wasn’t as natural as thumb sticks so…

Like genuinely, it’s an awful shape. Unless you like the touch aspect, just buy a normal controller

It’s also going to be £85, which tells you the steam machine is likely to be at a minimum £900 given traditional console market price scaling

[gaunt spade]

900pounds for rx 7600 performance would be wild

[bright surge]

any where i can look for some advice on replacing the fan on an OLD GPU?

[frigid blade]

Strap a new one to the outside of it

[bright surge]

[frigid blade]

We’ve had a few of those here

[bright surge]

valid, though i would prefer to do it properly, lol

[frigid blade]

That is the proper fix

[bright surge]

IM NOT JANK

though i enjoy watching OTHER people do jank,

[frigid blade]

One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure

Or woman’s

damn I really don’t have any jank examples from myself

[gaunt spade]

Or woman’s

[frigid blade]

I really stopped doing janky shit

Did you guys know there’s anime girl scented thermal paste

[gaunt spade]

are we deadbutt

[gaunt spade]

ive heard of scented but anime girl scent?

idcooling too

[frigid blade]

Oh no it’s not anime girl scented

It’s just anime girls, and scented oops

[gaunt spade]

ill buy it anyway

[frigid blade]

lol

[south arrow]

XD

[cold skiff]

Console official controller to box cost is around 10-15% historically.

As life time goes up normally reduces to 5-10%

[bright surge]

Uhm, WUT...

[cold skiff]

That controller is going to recoup some of the machine box cost because £85 for the steam controller 2 is fucking wild

[bright surge]

Lol

[gaunt spade]

still even during ram shortage if the steam console will be close to 1000 its too much

[cold skiff]

It might aswell have razer branding on it to be a steam controller slightly reconfigured with an extra thumb stick… for double the price of the old controller

[junior valve]

tung sahur

@gaunt spade puter

[gaunt spade]

go back to jailbreak

[cold skiff]

Like £40 for steam controller 1 in 2015 a bit steep yeah. However no one did touch pads, so worth a buy. Now? £85 to just have another thumb stuck? Day light robbery

[gaunt spade]

show me ur phone case bud

[junior valve]

i got muted for 3 days here last time i did it

[gaunt spade]

lol

[cold skiff]

Describe it in 3 words

[junior valve]

bird with balls

[gaunt spade]

perfect

[cold skiff]

Gotta be seen

[gaunt spade]

its legendary

[junior valve]

some arts are beyond human imagination

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/speech-bubble-text-chat-NjlRswMybn6VC8Vi8V

[cold skiff]

Remember it’s disgusting to look at a naked cartoon but Michelangelo’s David is “beauty” and “art”

[manic panther]

They only say that about the ones you look at

[gaunt spade]

albert and einstein

[junior valve]

aight back to scamming jb players and sell their cars for money

[cold skiff]

Honestly. Looking at Blippi cartoons is disgusting so I can’t fault that one

[frigid blade]

Would this include AI art

Because they’re not human

[cold skiff]

Well they kind of are

[frigid blade]

“Art”

[frigid blade]

Yah this is art should belong in a museum

[rose stream]

Mmmm yesn't.

[cold skiff]

If it’s base instruction or even any instruction from a human developed it, is it not human?

[frigid blade]

I think eventually if you let AI run on its own it could generate its own art without telling it to

So you remove the human instruction part

[rose stream]

I bet the results would be no different though.

[frigid blade]

Or a prompt like “make art”, it’s not instructing it to specifically make some kind of art

[rose stream]

Sure, an eventual mess. Lol.

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ai-slop-reading-the-script-aP93dHbxv4URK0Z9NC

[frigid blade]

Btw, I don’t think AI “art” is real art

I wanna make that clear

[rose stream]

Neither do I.

[frigid blade]

But I’m also not the person who goes “oh you are bad, because AI”

[rose stream]

Same.

My thing is that if you're using it, understand that:

• The credit due will not be to you, only the machine that made it.
• It doesn't look any better than what already exists that it's based on and is very manufactured in style and semblances.
• Generative AIs cannot accomplish artistic intent, so things will not make sense visually or will be off in a number of ways for no reason.
• They also get gradually worse over time as they generate stuff, eventually leading to a massive visual deterioration in the images becoming barely recognizable to anything, or even virtually incoherent to where everything is a hideous mess.

[frigid blade]

It will get mid

[rose stream]

The last two are a major separation between a human artist and a generative AI.

[rose stream]

Naww, it'll turn into literal throwaway trash with no inherent value, even of which is sentimental.

[frigid blade]

I use generative AI to give ideas for our home

[rose stream]

Those models basically can destroy themselves overtime by just feeding off their own output.

[frigid blade]

I showed it earlier today I think

Made this hall tree with storage and bench for us to send and get a quote

It’s cool to get an idea of what it would look like when done

Without it

[gaunt spade]

i have that kind of bench ive never sat on it

[frigid blade]

Yah it’s probably just for looks anyway lol

It came out good tho I was happy with the way the AI made it

It followed my instructions very seriously

[gaunt spade]

it looks really good but genuinly useless

[frigid blade]

Prompt also AI generated but we don’t talk about that

Wait wtf it even got the shadows right for the handles for the shoe storage from the light above

[gaunt spade]

🙏

[snow mauve]

i like the idea of using ai to generate good prompts for use elsewhere in ai 😛

i think i'd only do that for text to image stuff heh

[frigid blade]

thats the only time i use it yah

[snow mauve]

dude i mean....that's way more thought into a prompt i thin i've ever done lol. i was just thinking about this earlier, how much does my model make a diff vs my crappy prompts. its like unlocking a whole descriptive language you aren't used to doing unless you're maybe a creative writer

i have a hard time with physics effects like liquid metal dripping, etc. i am going to try the flux 12b next and see if that helps

[native path]

im a kind dude

[frigid blade]

i also have used it to show my fathers clients (hes a carpenter) what potentia additions would look like, its very useful

the original photo is the first one

[snow mauve]

that's a great use case

[frigid blade]

it saves a ton of time

[snow mauve]

could probably use it to show plastic surgery before and after too lol

[frigid blade]

maybe yah

[snow mauve]

"sir this is you after botox, whatcha think?" lol

this is you with booty implants

lol what a society we have become

[frigid blade]

It’s good and bad

On one hand it saves you money, on the other hand it is taking away jobs

[snow mauve]

the carpentry thing, a wholesome thing 🙂

well. i dont think it has to take away jobs, i mean some yah. i see it as a shift to 'different' jobs if people are willing. the same diversity of jobs? yes will diminish

[frigid blade]

For example, it took away the work from the person who would model the potential addition to show the client, but then the client doesn’t have to pay for it, so they’re happy they save money

[snow mauve]

can you imagine, your surgeon, right as you're getting ready to go under anesthesia to have your appendix taken out "just let me consult Grok...." fade to black

[frigid blade]

Equivalent of pulling out YouTube mid surgery

“How do I perform X on X”

[snow mauve]

yea, but how many people DIDN'T invest in an upgrade because they couldn't see a real enough simulation to make it click? goes both ways

back to not taking, but shifting

i know it may sound obtuse just thinkin macro scale

i'm on the tism scale so i have no filter

[frigid blade]

I don’t mind, helps me think also

[ionic atlas]

Not even MrBean needed YouTube guide

[snow mauve]

heard an interesting story about him

did you know he commandeered an aircraft the pilot died/passed out and saved the whole craft

not sure if it was just his fam or not but still

[frigid blade]

Never heard of that

[snow mauve]

"mr bean guy"

[ionic atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-bean-bean-paint-painting-gif-22134997

[snow mauve]

rowan atkinson or something right? yea he's a hero

[ionic atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-middle-finger-fuck-you-fuck-everyone-smh-gif-5650690

Yes

[fresh escarp]

Heck does this mean lmao

[abstract wigeon]

maaaan no trigger vibration is the only dealbreaker for the steam controller, i like it going vrrm when i drive cars in cyberpunk

[sinful cobalt]

i might grab one to go along with my 8bitdo

[abstract wigeon]

im using an xbox one controller rn, wouldve upgraded instantly if not for lack of vibration

[snow mauve]

i mean, it's super descriptive, not vague at all lol

[fresh escarp]

dw i figures it out myself, windows insider build be peace of shit sometimes

[gaunt spade]

you gotta use force bud

[haughty compass]

Question, I just upgraded my pc as well as the bios and now windows freaks out and says that boot device is inaccessible. I was able to get it to boot via safe mode but I'm not sure what to delete to fix this now

[formal sonnet]

It means something caused the OS to bugcheck, resulting in a Blue Screen (now Black Screen) of Death, but it's Green because you're running an Insider (unstable / unsupported / experimental) build of Windows.

[fresh escarp]

ye ik, tho i clrearly denied it from installing it, it probs found a way to still do it while ive been away at somepoint out of home, but i have something going on and will be able to fix it, jus tthat its on H drive now rather than C but i'll get it sorted, if its still gonna be weird then ill reinstall which ion want cause i have alot of projects and client work on it lmao

[haughty compass]

I just tried to use ddu in safe mode this happened...

[fresh escarp]

cinema

[cold skiff]

I don’t know if user error or winblows

Sure you had it in safe mode buddy?

[frail sequoia]

It says the stop code is "driver unloaded without cancelling pending operations"

[fresh escarp]

fixed own pc, didnt loose anything lets goooo

[haughty compass]

Yes I literally couldn't load into non safe mode

I just upgraded my pc and it was doing this

So I went into safe mode to use ddu

[fresh escarp]

cant access boot drive

[haughty compass]

Yeah it worked in safe mode

[fresh escarp]

hm intresting

[haughty compass]

I was able to boot into normal windows now but neither gpu or cpu drivers are letting it be installed

Both think I'm not using the right parts

Idk what to do, it's a 1080ti but it won't work

[sharp bramble]

i have a thermalright peerless asssassin 120 se cooler for a 5900xt and whenever a slight load goes on it like a package install it sounds like a jet engine, anyone have any idea to why?

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[fickle ivy]

How are OLED displays for phones so much cheaper than monitors to the point in which they can be put on budget phones

I would think with the even higher pixel density they would be pretty expensive

[fresh escarp]

what os exactly you using rn that you wanna install the drivers?

[haughty compass]

windows 10

[fresh escarp]

any reason of choosing that over win11? not being as in insult, but thought asking

[haughty compass]

This drive predates windows 11 by 2 years

2019 ssd

[fresh escarp]

what does that mean

[haughty compass]

I install windows on this ssd in 2019.
Windows 11 no exist until 2021.
Impossible to have windows 11 on this

And I don't feel like installing windows 11

[restive plinth]

Windows 10 should still work, but windows 11 is just a simple update from Windows 10 if your hardware is supported

[ocean axle]

Being physically smaller, the mfg line is a lot cheaper. Iirc oleds are made in a vacuum chamber

[haughty compass]

I just don't like how it looks or feels so I'm not going to go out of my to update it

On a new pc I'll install win 11 but I'm keeping this guy on 10

[restive plinth]

Okay so right now are you having a driver issue?

[fresh escarp]

never heard of that being a thing, but well hmm

[restive plinth]

I suggest installing win 11 after the EOL (or moving to the LTSC version)

[fresh escarp]

that all can be changed, tho ofcourse that's effort which i can tell that won't be the case

[restive plinth]

What all stuff did you change?

[haughty compass]

So um my gpu isint showing up on device manager and idk what to do atp cus I went and found the specific 1080ti driver install

[haughty compass]

Gpu, cpu, psu

[fresh escarp]

win 11 ltsc should be pretty nice, and the feel of things can be changed one way or another, after that's done should be all good for years ( kinda )

[haughty compass]

1060 3gb to 1080ti 11gb
I5 8400 to i7 9700
500w psu to 650w psu

[restive plinth]

Do you still have the old hardware?

[haughty compass]

Yes

[restive plinth]

wait one sec. Lemme check how this can be fixed

[fresh escarp]

bro finna GPT that real quick 😭

[restive plinth]

nahh I am trying to see about possible Bios issues

[fresh escarp]

have you specifically downloaded the driver rather than using the installer they provide?

[haughty compass]

I also updated my bios to latest version to support 9th Gen cpu

[restive plinth]

Windows is booting without any issues right?

[haughty compass]

I went through Nvidia website and filled out my gpu

[fresh escarp]

hm instresting

[restive plinth]

Install the correct chipset for your CPU first
And then restart

[haughty compass]

I tried installing drivers for my cpu

But uh that also said not detrcted

[restive plinth]

uhh
which version of windows 10 is this btw

Usually, any driver related issues is automatically handled by a windows update

[fresh escarp]

technically windows should have a loooong list of stuff in the Windows Updates section, alot of laptops and pc's i've installed win10 and 11 has given all the normal things there, maybe rarely have to manually find a specific driver

[haughty compass]

10.0.19045

[restive plinth]

Check for Windows updates first

[haughty compass]

I tried installing this and it says this

I know it's not k but is that the problem?

It just says 7-10th Gen graphics

[restive plinth]

Check windows updates first

[fresh escarp]

^

[haughty compass]

O

[restive plinth]

Along with that, see the "View optional updates" section

It might have some drivers stuff

[haughty compass]

Should I install these?

[glossy vine]

ayyy

[fresh escarp]

ah now i see the issue lmao

[restive plinth]

Do the other updates first
Then we can look at this section

[haughty compass]

Yeah I haven't used the pc since August of last year 🥴

So drivers a bit out of date

[fresh escarp]

i have a fix, but dunno if i can provide cmd commands to get windows update service going

reason alot of stuff arent installing like i said in my long message

[haughty compass]

Hm I see

Bro this update is gonna take so long 😭 😭

[restive plinth]

you havent used any scripts to block the updates right?

[haughty compass]

This pc doesn't have wifi support and the usb dongle is literally dying (1-2mbps download)

[haughty compass]

Don't think so

[fresh escarp]

okay so i have another idea which arent gonna be sus, if u wont mind me writing for 2 mins lmao

1. Windows Key + R on your keyboard to open the Run dialog box.
2. Type services.msc and press Enterr
3. In the list of services, scroll down until you find Windows Update.
4. Right-click on it and select Start. THO If "Start" is greyed out but "Restart" is available, click Restart instead.
5. Repeat this process for the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS), as Windows Update relies on it to download the files otherwise ye
   before all this show what the Windows Update service says before u change anything, would be nice

[haughty compass]

Wait so should I do this before restarting my pc for updates?

[fresh escarp]

if u have stuff rn installing then u can wait those out, after those are done then u can do this, then the long list with red errors as u showed here gonna be able to do there thing

[haughty compass]

Oke

It's like almost done... I think idk

This wifi dongle so slow

[fresh escarp]

u dont have ethernet port / cable to use?

[haughty compass]

Not one close to this pc

[fresh escarp]

i use USB to Ethernet as my Eth port is fred or just buggin oout

[fresh escarp]

ah fairs

[haughty compass]

128 ping and 9mbps 😭 I usually have 5ms and 500mbps to closest server on ethernet...

[fresh escarp]

gawd daym

[haughty compass]

This gonna take all night at this rate

[opal gull]

Anyone online atm?

[fresh escarp]

nah

[haughty compass]

No we all asleep rn

[fresh escarp]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/19059559221.png

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-magica-kyuubey-madoka-kaname-homura-akemi-slap-gif-17925194312208790207

[opal gull]

Then, do you mind quickly helping me? Trying to figure out something with my PC.
Mainly at my motherboard.

[fresh escarp]

well u can just as the question

[haughty compass]

😭

ok wait leyt me go onto my pc

https://www.speedtest.net/result/19130278905.png

not too bad

[restive plinth]

you could use your phone for USB tethering

[haughty compass]

true!

[restive plinth]

thats usually faster than slow af dongles

[haughty compass]

i forgot about that

[fresh escarp]

ye tru, with my old phone it came in clutch

[haughty compass]

Yeah that's a lot faster

[restive plinth]

lets goo

[haughty compass]

The update froze tho 😭

Might have to restart cus it's stuck at 20 % now

[fresh escarp]

naaa patience brother

[haughty compass]

[restive plinth]

It will reconnect automatically dw
It takes some time

[restive plinth]

Are you a Windows insider btw

If yes, Experimental or Beta?

[fresh escarp]

i left that shit, had green screen cause of it, but remembered way i can fix it and managed to do it, i cant remember on which one, but the one that gives the latest latest

[restive plinth]

The old canary channel then probably
They renamed everything and switched to just 2 channels where you have a lot more options

I'm on the beta channel. I am considering switching to the Experimental one, but this is my main system and I need this for uni soo its difficult to consider the unstable option

[fresh escarp]

neva choosing insider build even if it has something that me as a software dev see handy lmao

[restive plinth]

yeahh
The more stable insider builds are fine. It is only the new "features" that might be buggy

The core OS itself is going to be stable

I joined Beta to get the XBOX mode quicker

[formal sonnet]

As someone who's had to reinstall many times back when I was running Experimental Windows 10 Insider builds, 0/10 would not recommend on a production system.

[fresh escarp]

yea

[formal sonnet]

Not always. Especially if you have graphics, network, or other third party drivers. NVMe firmware and GPU drivers were what caused me to leave the Insider program forever. That and I finally realized why Microsoft reduced their QA team back when Windows 8 launched. 😉 I ain't being paid to beta test Windows.

[restive plinth]

lmao
The core OS in the Beta channel is stable atleast. It is messed up in the other channels. Windows specifically mentions beta as "stable but with buggy and new features" while Canary and the other channels are unstable.

I just want the new features faster. If it wasn't for the xbox mode, I might not have joined the beta. But this also fixed the File Explorer issues (like faster startup, no white flash anymore, etc). Soo i'm sticking with this

[haughty compass]

OK so I just restarted windows update and the other other one in the services page

What would that have changed?

Everything still seems the same

[haughty compass]

Idk what to do atp

Can't get this to work

[odd sparrow]

Guys how much money would i have to spend to be able to play games in 2k? I have 3070, i9 10850k, 32gb ddr4 and im not sure is it worth upgrading it

[fresh escarp]

depends what graphuics in the 1440p res

[sinful cobalt]

2k is not 1440p

[fresh escarp]

yeah its technically 2048 x 1080

2.5K would be more 1440p

[haughty compass]

After so long... Literally just had to go to the aorus website to find the exact version

😐

[fresh escarp]

bootrec /fixmbr (Repairs the Master Boot Record)

[kindred halo]

The Frostbite engine supports DLSS 3? That's interesting

Doubt they have it for BFV

[odd sparrow]

Preferably biggest or close if too expensive

And i meant 1440p mb

[kindred halo]

You can sell that 10850K & board for mad cash btw

[odd sparrow]

How come

[kindred halo]

Get LGA 1700, downgrade in terms of pure CPU power (which won't be much of an issue in 1440p) and use that cash + money from selling the 3070 to get a new GPU

[kindred halo]

Oh wait nvm

Sorry, mistook your CPU for something else

[odd sparrow]

Hm

Darn it

But im not sure is it worth getting 1440p, heard the difference is minimal

[kindred halo]

Depends on the game

Your GPU can run 1440p to a degree but the VRAM may be an issue

[odd sparrow]

I play a bunch

Maybe i get 4k?

[kindred halo]

Oh wait you CAN sell it for some good cash

The CPU itself can go as low as $250 on EBay

That's minus the board

[odd sparrow]

Low?

[kindred halo]

I mean that's as cheap as it can be sold for

[odd sparrow]

So 250 is minimal

[sinful cobalt]

you’d need a 5070 minimum for 4K else its not a nice experience

[kindred halo]

Pretty much, atleast what EBay suggests

[kindred halo]

Oh yeah what Setsuna said
5070 or equivalent earlier card

With a 3070, 1440p is your highest resolution

[odd sparrow]

I mean i can prolly put 3k€+ selling old pc

[brave brook]

maybe you have a DCH driver installed ? download the DCH driver

[kindred halo]

.. Unless you really like early Source games

[odd sparrow]

Huh

[sinful cobalt]

I wouldnt even use a 3070 for 1440p
3080 else I dont recommend

[kindred halo]

So.. Your budget is €3000 + the money from your current PC if you sell it?

[sinful cobalt]

i dont like having just 8gb vram for modern titles in 1440p

[kindred halo]

Tbh you can just sell the CPU, Board, and GPU

[odd sparrow]

Maybe bit less

[kindred halo]

Me neither, just saying it's his highest option theoretically

[brave brook]

next time use the nvidia app

[kindred halo]

Some games can still work at 1440p with 8GB
Not many, but some

[odd sparrow]

Ddr4 wont be too slow?

[kindred halo]

It'll be fine

Are you willing to spend around ~€2000+ for a 4K PC?

[sinful cobalt]

if you’re going 4K you’ll be more GPU limited anyway

[odd sparrow]

Also i gotta get new case, i broke the headphone jack and some usbs dont work

[kindred halo]

Or would you rather save money and get something good enough for 1440p?

[odd sparrow]

Welll im 16, ion got much to spend on ngl

[kindred halo]

.. I guess

Okay, before I try to make a build list for you, final chance

Do you want to spend all that money to play at 4K? Or save most of it and upgrade your current PC for 1440p?

[kindred halo]

Even then they'll probably need DLSS upscaling on most modern titles

[odd sparrow]

Actually lets save, upgrade my pc to 1440p

[kindred halo]

But atleast at 4K you have a decent amount of pixels to work with soo

[kindred halo]

Aye aye

So, first off

That can't be guaranteed, with the direction games are going, but it won't be impossible

Okay so
Do you do anything other than gaming?

[odd sparrow]

Yes, but its not really heavier than gaming

[kindred halo]

Which is?

If it's stuff like programs within Microsoft Office, then that's fine

[odd sparrow]

Listening to music, sometimes coding, developing games in roblox, microsoft office yeah

Browsing the net

[sinful cobalt]

every viable card benefits from DLSS at 4K lol

[kindred halo]

Okay those are definitely usable with a PC that can do 1440p

[kindred halo]

Okay fair enough lmao

[odd sparrow]

Phewww

[kindred halo]

Second question
Where are you from? It's so I can input the country in PC Part Picker, and get items closest to your location

[golden sage]

damn, im playing the finals on max graphics on 1440p and while its been months since i owned this card, cant help but to enjoy whisper quiet sound and lower temps compared to my 3080

[kindred halo]

@odd sparrow

[kindred halo]

64° C at 258W, oh wow

[odd sparrow]

Croatiaaaaa

[sinful cobalt]

mine does like 60c at 300w or smth

[kindred halo]

Oh </3

[kindred halo]

Okay, one second

[odd sparrow]

Wait my psu is kinda weak i think

[sinful cobalt]

@golden sage didnt u grab the aorus master or was that the mobo

[kindred halo]

Oh bullocks
Croatia isn't a country option on PCPP

Guess we'll have to do this the old fashioned way

[golden sage]

Nope. these are my specs @sinful cobalt

[sinful cobalt]

as in the GPU model

[kindred halo]

Okay, first off
What sort of used marketplaces do you have in your country

[odd sparrow]

yeah of course...

[golden sage]

Oh right, this one's a PNY RTX 5080

[sinful cobalt]

o i thought u had the aorus master xd

[odd sparrow]

dont you worry about that, just tell me the parts and ill try my best to find them
Just that they are not super niche

wait is market place used stuff?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[odd sparrow]

uh i was planing new stuffs

[kindred halo]

Okay
First off, how much is a 5600x, 12400F, 13400F/14400F, or 5700x used

[kindred halo]

Are you sure? Used parts can save you a ton of money if bought from a reputable source

[haughty compass]

The Nvidia app doesn't work 😭

[odd sparrow]

yeah but there is not really much and im pretty far off some big cities so its hard that i finna find anything

[kindred halo]

Okay then, fair enough

Well, check those some CPUs new

[haughty compass]

Like like 2 images before u can see it doesn't work

[kindred halo]

Tell me their prices

[haughty compass]

And now ts gonna piss me off more

[odd sparrow]

5600x 130€, i5 12400F 135€, i5 13400f 164€, 7 5700x 164€

[brave brook]

disconnect internet, DDU, restart, still disconnected internet, install driver, then reconnect driver. As i said, 99% you are trying to install normal driver over DCH driver

[kindred halo]

5700x?

[odd sparrow]

i edited the message

[kindred halo]

Oh ight

[kindred halo]

Okay, in that case
What exact model is the cheapest B550?

[median warren]

1990s fashion was so cool

[odd sparrow]

80€

[haughty compass]

I've done all of that

Ive done ddu like 6 times at this point

And my pc doesn't have wifi so it's automatically tuned off unless I connect my phone to it to download something

I'm gonna end up pulling my hairs out over this 😭 😭 😭 😭

Bro to even boot into my pc I have the go through 2 different menus and idek why they pop up 😭 😭 😭 😭

I get one saying that my pc/device needs to be repaired. I just click f9 and then it takes me to menu to pick boot device..? And then I cna load into windows

[kindred halo]

What model is it

[odd sparrow]

Asus PRIME B550M-K ARGB, AM4, AMD B550, mATX

[kindred halo]

Show me a screenshot of the cheapest boards available

Asking about each one specifically will take too long

[odd sparrow]

im lookig at 50 stores bru

[kindred halo]

Oh

[odd sparrow]

wait i got it

[restive plinth]

Create a windows installation thing and keep it with you and update to windows 11 ig

[odd sparrow]

sorry if some are repeated

[opal gull]

Considering that no one is here atm, if someone knows the answer, can you please answer it?

I have an ASUS X99 Pro USB 3.1 Motherboard and I'm wanting to be able to charge stuff like my phone or a tablet
at a reasonable rate, not fast charging. I've read online that my motherboard has a USB Charger+ Port but I have
no idea which one is that port. Can anyone help me, if you can?

First image is the bottom half of the IO Shield, the second image is the top half. And I do apologize for the relatively
low image quality, both of them were taken on my phone (a Sony Xperia XZ; Yes, its old I know, but it works for what
I normally do on it).

And before you ask me, "Does your case have a USB-C (Type-C Port) on it?", yes it does. However, the charger I'm
trying to use is a USB-A. Plus, I've tried to use that port, but its never worked with me; Or, if it has, it did a very
poor job.

[odd sparrow]

i can send more if needed

[kindred halo]

It's fine

[kindred halo]

Left image, second row, second column
The B550M-A/CSM

It's the cheapest board I can recommend you

[odd sparrow]

why not get more expensive one, like i have the moneys

[kindred halo]

Not saying you shouldn't at all, it's just the cheapest one you can use pretty decently

[haughty compass]

Atp updating to windows 11 might be the only way to fix this

Hope that does fix it tho

[kindred halo]

Okay your best option here is the last one in the right image, B550 Eagle

Oh btw I'd recommend the 5700x if you can spare the money for it

[high elm]

they prolly all charge at the same rate

[kindred halo]

Now.. GPU
How much does a 3070 sell for used? To see how much you can sell yours for

@odd sparrow

[odd sparrow]

but its not aestheticaly pleasing iykwim

[odd sparrow]

i think i had that one on old pcc

[odd sparrow]

lemme chcek

[kindred halo]

Ight

One second

[odd sparrow]

cheapest one 250€ but around bit more than 300€ on average

[kindred halo]

Okay yeah nothing on the list has both good specs and good looks

[kindred halo]

Then you can probably sell yours in the ~€200 minimum range

[odd sparrow]

on that list, im sure if i spent a few more bucks id be able to find sth

[odd sparrow]

i belive more ngl

[kindred halo]

Maybe

Send more options, also check X570s too

[gilded harness]

because why the hell would you spend a lot on old platform

[kindred halo]

Anyway I'll be back in a bit

[gilded harness]

when you can just save

that platform is dead as hell, you wouldnt want to spend so much money on it

[kindred halo]

He already has 32GB of DDR4, and a 5700X is only €164

[odd sparrow]

platform?

[gilded harness]

am4 socket

[kindred halo]

Platform means CPU slot family

In your case, it's AM4

[open rock]

Did u guys here there are signs of a cpu shortage coming

[kindred halo]

Yes

[open rock]

Hear*

[gilded harness]

wait what

[open rock]

We are cooked

[odd sparrow]

i mean i can get newer cpu ig

and i cant find x570

[kindred halo]

Intel & AMD have started focusing on Xeon & EPYC production

[gilded harness]

💔

[kindred halo]

Not that
You can use an AM4 with no real issue, especially since you already have 32GB of DDR4

Wait
What speed is that DDR4?

[gilded harness]

i might have to cop core ultra 7 270k plus now

[kindred halo]

Is it 2 or 4 sticks?

[odd sparrow]

3200mhz im pretty sure, 2 sticks

[kindred halo]

Okay perfect

[gilded harness]

you already have the rams so thats all okay

[kindred halo]

Yeah honestly I'd just say to get the B550M-A/CSM at the cheapest

[gilded harness]

i mean u could get 5700x3d or 5800x3d but those things went extinct

[kindred halo]

B550 Eagle at the most expensive

[kindred halo]

@odd sparrow How much are those for you?

Didn't recommend yet as I am unsure of how much everything will end up costing

[rough salmon]

I speak for us all when I say we are not getting the over priced steam controller

If it worked on Xbox I’d get but it’s only for steam games

[gilded harness]

yea it really went extinct..

[odd sparrow]

it was translated by google so might be bad

[median warren]

No advertised store seems to offer this product

[gilded harness]

the 5800x3d is more expensive than 9800x3d here in thailand

even used, its so bad

[median warren]

That's crazy

It's less than £200 here

[odd sparrow]

fuhh i gotta go to school for 15 mins

[rough salmon]

I might turn my spare pc into a gaming pc

[gilded harness]

dude its like $200 more expensive than the 9800x3d i can just get ddr5 atp 😭

[rough salmon]

Am I able to upgrade a 2015 pc to a low end gaming device less than £100

[gilded harness]

Possible

[median warren]

Very hard with current prices

[rough salmon]

Ram is fine as it’s 32gb ram

[median warren]

You can get like an SSD and a fan basically

[rough salmon]

I used it for Minecraft server

I already have a 2tb ssd on it

[median warren]

Ah that's good

[rough salmon]

For now I could get the max cpu the motherboard accepts

[median warren]

You don't have a lot of options for 100 but since you said gaming probably you could get a used GPU

[rough salmon]

Then later on the low profile gpu

[gilded harness]

hope its an xeon pc idk

[rough salmon]

Yeah I was gonna look on Facebook

It’s a HP 💀🙏🏻

[gilded harness]

i think i used to own 4790k pairing with 6700xt once

[rough salmon]

I just wanna be able to try pc gaming and I think this way is a good way for starting

[gilded harness]

arc a380 is nice

idk if you are able to cop 1080 for $100 tho

but thats also comes with psu limitation of the prebuilt

[rough salmon]

Mehhh I might just save and wait for steam machine

Which is def not coming out this year cuz ram

[gaunt spade]

i dont think it will be worth it

[rough salmon]

Will it be a weak over priced machine for 2027

[gaunt spade]

yes

[rough salmon]

Steam does something and loses

They should stick with doing nothing and they win

Like people are already annoyed bout the controller

[gaunt spade]

100$ for that bs

[brave brook]

meanwhile over here 1080 Ti goes for 150 euros

[median warren]

This is just 1 bad example tbh

But I see them go for £130+ ish

[high elm]

price carried by “nostalgia”

[gilded harness]

paying for the name ahh gpu

[gilded harness]

what the hell

this has to be during the shortage and they just forget to lower the price lmao

[median warren]

I think maybe because they still have everything and in its box

Mint condition

And ofc it's the asus Rog version

So that adds style points

[gaunt spade]

ts not worth 150$ even

with mint box and allat

[median warren]

Its honestly a collector's piece

[valid fiber]

how about using the onboard gpu of an x3d cpu 🤷‍♂️

[median warren]

What about it

[valid fiber]

then you are not in a hurry and can wait for a cheap offer

[gaunt spade]

what a joke

[median warren]

I am in no hurry

I was just looking at 1080tis

For curiosity's sake

[valid fiber]

oh

[gaunt spade]

i wish i had a gaming laptop

gaming in bed

[rough salmon]

Don’t wish that gng

For now if u want gaming in bed on a basic laptop use GeForce now if u don’t mind paying like £10 a month

[gaunt spade]

i live in 3rd world country so internet is shit

and im not payng a subscription

[restive plinth]

Gaming laptops are w fr but I wouldn't use it on the bed

[median warren]

I just wouldn't use gaming laptops to begin with

[valid fiber]

subscriptions are the worst

[gaunt spade]

i guess thin laptop would work with parsec connected to main rig

[median warren]

Why gaming laptops if steam deck exists?

Which is easier to hold in bed than a laptop

[gaunt spade]

worst take ever

steam deck no performance plus no mouse kb

tiny screne too

[restive plinth]

Gaming laptop has a lot more flexibility and use case
Not just for gaming but for other stuff

[valid fiber]

but gaming and laptop seems also like a bad combo

[median warren]

Would you rather have the flesh burnt off your thighs because you opened up 2 applications on your gaming laptop as it tries its best to run at 40fps or have a handheld which can handle 60fps and your thighs will be intact

[gaunt spade]

i love handhelds but a handheld is not a laptop replacement

[median warren]

But for just gaming, you said gaming in bed

[gaunt spade]

steamdeck aint running shit

[median warren]

It's easy to game in bed with a handheld than a laptop

[gaunt spade]

i dont wanna play all low at 720p

[median warren]

Yeah it is? It's a genuinely good gaming device

[median warren]

You're underestimating it

[gaunt spade]

no i had the rog ally which is stronger and its bad performance

[median warren]

I'm checking benchmarks

[rough salmon]

Yeah like if the gaming laptop has a 5090, it’s only half as powerful

[gaunt spade]

rog ally is like 1,5x stronger atleast

[restive plinth]

Spend 10 usd to get a bed table and keep laptop on it. Problem solved

[gaunt spade]

if ur checking performance test

[rough salmon]

My WiFi is ass, 10mbps gng

[gaunt spade]

son

[rough salmon]

On Xbox I get 100mbps and 9ms latency

Which is a good balance for gaming

[gaunt spade]

more like a tier down so a desktop 5080 but yea worse performance

[rough salmon]

Ye

[restive plinth]

Gaming laptop with a big screen, also can be used for literally anything else

• This thing for gaming in bed 👍

[median warren]

Tbh nah I think even worse

[median warren]

Gaming laptops to feel too bulky for bed use

[gaunt spade]

around there

[median warren]

Sad part is, it's not even cheaper than like a normal 5090

[restive plinth]

Well yeah but I would prefer having a powerful laptop which can do everything over a gaming focused device with a small screen just because I felt like gaming on my bed for a few minutes

[median warren]

Hm yeah

Although I find just doing anything on a laptop is annoying to me

I hate the keyboard, I hate the trackpad, I hate the screen sizes

[restive plinth]

That's why I think the next xbox should have a proper windows mode so that we can use it as a desktop, but also as a console

[median warren]

And at that point If I'm buying a separate, monitor, keyboard and mouse I might as well get a pc

[gaunt spade]

i love laptop keyboards

[median warren]

The thing is, if it did that would bring in soo many security risks tho, like the average consumer knows fuck all about computers right, so they just play Xbox and play their games and join parties with friends, 0 risk because they're not downloading anything dodgy

[gaunt spade]

trackpad yea for games ofcourse not

[median warren]

But if you bring in a windows mode, people will get so many viruses

[restive plinth]

I have no other choice
I prefer desktop but I'm in uni and I need portability, but also performance.

The trackpad is quite good on windows with all the gestures, and the screen is 15.6. I use a controller for gaming so keyboard is not a problem

[median warren]

I bought a laptop, I used it for a few months and it hasn't been touched since

I just couldn't, I always felt I pulled out my phone to browse the internet rather than the laptop itself

[restive plinth]

It's going to be optional. No one connecting their xbox to their tv will use windows mode. But if I want to, I should be able to.

It will also be able to run non xbox games and games from outside any launchers

[median warren]

I don't know if Xbox will do that tho

[restive plinth]

Well, the helix is rumoured to do that. Game mode and a separate xbox mode. Both pc games and console games

[median warren]

And how much will the helix cost

2k?

[gaunt spade]

fuh na

[median warren]

It's gonna be expensive, obviously not 2 grand expensive

[restive plinth]

No idea
Rumoured to be around 1.2k but probably less than 1.5

[median warren]

But it'll be interesting to see for sure

[restive plinth]

But if it can replace your desktop then

It seems worth the money

[median warren]

You can probably build a better pc yourself with the same money tho

So at that point it's just like a fancy prebuilt

[restive plinth]

But you won't be able to play console games

[median warren]

You can already play Xbox games on pc with the Xbox app

[median warren]

Yuh uh

[restive plinth]

If they release the pc version early, it's gonna get cracked and pirated. they'll stick to console version for as long as they can.

[gaunt spade]

ts wont work out

[median warren]

They're not really doing anything different they're basically selling a prebuilt with console mode which all pc users can already basically do with the Xbox app anyways

[restive plinth]

Let's say helix released before gta 6. Then we can go to the game mode to play gta 6 on xbox console, but also use windows mode to play gta SA og

[median warren]

Yeah and you can just do that on a pc anyway tho

[restive plinth]

Console games do not work on windows xbox app

[gaunt spade]

both of them releasing 2028 son

[opal gull]

Alrighty, thanks for the heads up. Sorry that my response is late, I kinda set all discord servers I'm part of on mute.

[median warren]

Which games tho

[restive plinth]

Nope
Ac 4 black flag resynced is available on xbox console, but not on pc xbox

[median warren]

Its available on steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3751950/Assassins_Creed_Black_Flag_Resynced/

Steam

Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced

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Price

$59.99

Release Date

Jul 9, 2026

[restive plinth]

Yes
But not on pc xbox app

Xbox app on pc cannot run console versions of games

[gaunt spade]

fuck the xbox app

[median warren]

But if there's a windows mode you can get steam, so what would even be the point

[opal gull]

He's got a fair point.

[median warren]

I really don't know what their target audience is here

[restive plinth]

For this game, yes
Assume that ac 4 resynced did not release on steam / PC (like most games are these days)
How would you play that on pc?

With helix, you can jump into console mode and play it.