tech-chat-1

[sinful cobalt]

could also be in the reverse gear

[exotic cape]

Filled your car with gas?

[serene python]

thing is to minimize harm in any way possible , when you learn that something is bad you should try and reduce it/remove it

[sinful cobalt]

surprise people we’re now in an economics lesson

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-w-tokusatsu-die-meme-gif-17630707254793344547

[exotic cape]

Everything is bad

[native path]

all that and i can get more for a fraction of the cost + parity

[cold skiff]

We had this in the uk with overclockers.co.uk in the early 00s. Owner funded the British National Party on far right. They’re still here 20+ years later. The business they do is not the owners political beliefs, thus the business did, does and continues to do good business

[vague talon]

Yo, Should I take the x870 aorus elite wifi7 or the x870 tomahawk?
Both are on a similar price, plan to oc ram

For 7800x3d

[frail sequoia]

No shit sherlock

[cold skiff]

Once you start to become like Steve from GN, you may aswell just stop buying anything

[sinful cobalt]

my case has no space for hard drives- I literally put model kits in it

also how else would I justify a Z890 aorus master?

[native path]

you dont 😭

[alpine heron]

Compare their io and see if one seems better fit ourr uses than the other?

[exotic cape]

At one point you just have to realise your money is going to bad places whether you want it or not.

[abstract wigeon]

i think ceo had a bad reply to OP

i think if he had had a better reply it would be a non issue

[serene python]

exactly

[abstract wigeon]

its like accidentaly negligence vs purposefully being negelectful of an issue

[serene python]

if the reply was "ok sorry we didnt know, werent informed we are terminating this" it would have been 1000% fine

[vague talon]

The tomahawk has better and better vrms but look less good so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sinful cobalt]

yayy another vrm comparison for another probable measly 100w gaming 9800x3d

[exotic cape]

Unpopular opinion on motherboards.
Pick the most sold one of your socket type.

[serene python]

this is so true

most edge case tested

[native path]

i did this and my nic doesn't work how i want it to im mad

[exotic cape]

For 99.67% of people those small things doesn't matter.

[native path]

but in most cases yes it's true

[deep musk]

Yes, unless you need special features

[abstract wigeon]

or the first one that hardwareunboxed call good in a video

popular opinion on motherboards
go am5

[sinful cobalt]

i absolutely need a X870E apex for 1dpc, nitropath, x2 pcie 5.0 x16 slots, and 3 pcie5.0x4 ssd slots

and i most definitely need to put a 7500f in there

[vague talon]

Wdym

[exotic cape]

Go to store, sort by socket type, sort by most sold. Pick that one

[sinful cobalt]

brb lemme pair my $160 cpu with a $700 board

[vague talon]

B850 aorus elite wifi7
X870 gaming x wifi 7
X870 aorus elite wifi7
X870 tomahawk wifi 7

All are max 50$ difference

[exotic cape]

And

Do you need the extra gimmicks?

[sinful cobalt]

who wants to tell them they are all essentially the same and as equally gimped by AMD

[vague talon]

It's mostly down to look and io I guess

[exotic cape]

This is the mobo most sold on my store.

[vague talon]

The aorus elite looks better but the tomahawk has better io and vrms, and on tests it support higher clock speed for ram

[native path]

this motherboard would actually solve my problems

[deep musk]

I got my gigabyte eagle wifi6 mobo for my server (won’t use the wifi) because it’s one of the only 3 model i know of that have a bunch of physical pcie x16 slots (wired in x1)

[sinful cobalt]

inb4 they disable vrm throttling and explode their mobo and then complain

[vague talon]

I order from Amazon us (I'm not from the us or eu, just ordering there)

[exotic cape]

FAFO

[deep musk]

Huh, almost as if it was a bad thing to do on a lot of boards

[abstract wigeon]

hey i pressed 'let it explode' and it exploded

[vague talon]

Any other recommendations for 200-250$ budget?

[deep musk]

For what?

[exotic cape]

B850

[abstract wigeon]

i have gigabyte b650 gaming x ax v2 and im guessing the b850 is just as solid 🤷

[vague talon]

7800x3d

[vague talon]

Right now I have B850M-X R2.0 and it's absolute trash

[vague talon]

Which one

[exotic cape]

I use this for my 9800x3d

[vague talon]

I need to use Amazon

[abstract wigeon]

how come

[deep musk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ELmdKlPvnPE?si=q8gRtRI00ZbEcae_

[exotic cape]

Stupid cap limit and i cant share the name without adding text here.
ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS WIFI

[abstract wigeon]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DQNW4J1G

just grab one of these

[vapid hollow]

hmm, commodore 64 would be $600 and i wouldnt have use for it, but would be fun and cool and golden

[edgy folio]

Hello there, can ur gpu crash for having ur ram sticks in the wrong slots , like a1 and b1 instead of a2 and b2 ?

[grizzled frost]

general system instability can cause a crash to be reported as resulting from the GPU

[bold olive]

can't live under 120hz and yet i can handle a 60 hz tv just fine

[abstract wigeon]

https://github.com/thatbluebean/shadowchat
first ever github repo - going public to investors and adding crypto next week stay tuned

[cold skiff]

ASRock’d

6+1+1 poor quality VRM setup ftw

[deep musk]

How about no?

[sinful cobalt]

you cant even blame it on asrock this was straight user stupidity

[cold skiff]

It is. Even better is also this on the mobo site

[deep musk]

The user might have used an aio (no way they were custom water cooling) and the vrms might have been designed to require some sort of airflow to properly cool

[cold skiff]

The VRMs are partially exposed

They’re on a budget board

They’re going to be as comparable as a PRIME motherboard in quality

[twin shuttle]

would a 4080 bottleneck a 5950x amd processor?

[cold skiff]

On 1080p? Yes. On 4k? Not really

On 1440p? Probably not. Maybe game dependant.

[twin shuttle]

should i just go to am5 then or get a x3d processor then?

[bold olive]

will 4k 60 bottleneck a 7600 and a 5060 ti?

[cold skiff]

You’re still gpu limited

On 4K you’re generally hella gpu limited

[deep musk]

Yeah, having air flowing on them will help, (also putting small heat sinks on them like i do on my server boards is a good thing to do)

[bold olive]

yep the tv's for productivity use

[cold skiff]

Having better quality and a proper heatsink helps more

That’s why it throttled to begin with

[sinful cobalt]

its user error anyway

[deep musk]

Yes but when the only decently priced am4 mobo with many x16 slots isn’t a top of the line one, gotta do what I gotta do

[terse pewter]

from the LTT video talking about the 7500f

[rigid fjord]

@flat cliff which country you from?

[rigid fjord]

what board is this?

[rigid fjord]

dude, 4k res relies heavily on the gpu, and you shouldn't be looking at it with anything less than a 3090 or better in peformance

[rigid fjord]

this only shows what most people already know, that when it comes to 4k res, the cpu doesn't matter

[median warren]

Cex ram prices

[lapis talon]

Just found out you can play Pragmata in VR

[rigid fjord]

totally fine for a low end board tbh, it's more of what this person did with the board

[median warren]

Not horrendous

For uses ddr4

They also had a uses 9070xt and 4080 s

[rigid fjord]

the streamdeck there is the better option

[median warren]

Yeah I thought that was quite cheap too for 100

[terse pewter]

clearly joe didnt know though?

[median warren]

Considering they're over what 220?

[median warren]

They had a zotac 4080 s for £865

[rigid fjord]

i believe he's been told a few times already way before

[terse pewter]

i just thought it was a good visualisation

stop yelling at meeeeee

[rigid fjord]

that's ... not to bad a price for a 4080, considering what they go for currently, and yeah easily £150+ for the streamdeck

[rigid fjord]

i ain't yelling....yet, there's been enough caffiene and rum in my system to prevent that

[terse pewter]

[median warren]

4080 super

[rigid fjord]

yeah, looking at around 1.2-2k currently for that new

[median warren]

Yeah exactly

A cool £400 off

9070xt was... £675 I think

Acer nitro

[grizzled frost]

Cheapest i see rn 710usd

cheapest in the UK is 595 pounds

[median warren]

Yikes

[grizzled frost]

FYI 595 pounds is 802usd

[median warren]

It is?

[grizzled frost]

UK prices suck

[median warren]

Wdym they suck

[grizzled frost]

Mhm, the exchange rate used to be pretty close to 1:1, but it's since inflated

[median warren]

The £ is strong as a currency

[grizzled frost]

More expensive than USD

[grizzled frost]

Not as strong as the USD

[median warren]

Isn't it stronger than USD

[rigid fjord]

stronger than the usd

1gbp = 1.35usd

[grizzled frost]

oh wait i'm being a dumbass, it is technically stronger than the USD

[median warren]

Yeaaah

595 for a 9070xt is a good deal

Considering 9060xt is 400

[grizzled frost]

It doesn't help that the US political climate is incredibly volatile, that makes global markets less confident in the USD

[median warren]

US is just fucked all around

[rigid fjord]

reasons why the uk will never use the euro, because we're stronger than the alternative to it

[median warren]

Hungary needs to start using euro

They're using forint FFS

1 euro is like 400 something forint

It's ass

[median warren]

£ is goated

[rigid fjord]

then you look at kwd

[median warren]

What is kwd

[rigid fjord]

a place where they pay in oil than in coin

[median warren]

Oh wow

Is kwd the strongest currency?

[rigid fjord]

yup, because oil

usd is something like 7th place at being a strong currency

[languid isle]

is this a good monitor upgrade. (going from a 1080p 165hz)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0FF3MB6NT/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1

[cold skiff]

USD to get weaker as China progressively phasing it out of their trading

[native path]

id say so

[cold skiff]

That’s what Iran is all about isn’t it. Petrodollars now it deals in CYN and Rubles

[devout scarab]

we LOVE chess.c*m

[rigid fjord]

true, but the weaker the usd gets, the more it affects the BHD and OMR

[cold skiff]

And in comes the pound just pounding its way forward pap pap pap

[rigid fjord]

shows you how much the GBP can maintain itself tbh

as a currency, it's not affected by the usd or eur,

but the moment we have to start bartering in pebbles, i'mm go all fallout and hoard bottle caps

many many corona's will be consumed for this

[abstract wigeon]

anyone know why google AI studio is refusing to generate me an API key?

[rigid fjord]

google.com might

otherwise nope

[cold skiff]

Does Discord look like Google AI studio support?

[abstract wigeon]

i never used AI before man i thought you guys would know

[jaunty apex]

Gotta love when your PC starts to bootloop

[deep musk]

People in here don’t really love remotely hosted ai stuff, we prefer to host it on our own usually, if you ever have questions related to hosting your ai model on your own machine you’ll have a ton of help for that

[jaunty apex]

If my POST lights show VGA for a moment (i get video as if some init began), memory flashes before it reboots.. Does that mean my memory might be fucked

Reseated slots 1 and 3.. Booted at least

[restive plinth]

Is it giving some error?

[deep musk]

Might be, might be the memory controler on your cpu, might be a bios issue, you can try to reset the bios to see if it helps

[worn willow]

is charging phone while it has 80% safe

[abstract wigeon]

safe?

how else would you get past 80%?

[worn willow]

but it had 80% and i plugged it in

[abstract wigeon]

yeah internet failed me so i gave up

[restive plinth]

Ah
I have setup an api key using google ai studio

Is the issue related to billing?

[deep musk]

How long ago did you plug it in and does it have a battery life extension setting that prevents it from charging more than 80%?

[worn willow]

no

i plugged it when it reached 80%

[jaunty apex]

Honestly the CPU feels most likely to me. Already had to force base clocks (no boosting) to keep it stable

[restive plinth]

I just tried it and it worked for me
Strange
Try again after some time

[deep musk]

What’s your cpu? And that’s definitely an issue

[abstract wigeon]

this is after a couple days of waiting, across 2 browsers on 2 devices aswell
sadge

[jaunty apex]

Doesnt act like it did before doing that though, its a lot more sudden

[jaunty apex]

Ryzen 7 5800x

[restive plinth]

Do you have another account you could try

[deep musk]

Shoot, the warranty might be expired, when did you buy it?

[sonic stag]

Oooooh deep research im doing might be plausible

[jaunty apex]

Around launch lol. Doing a memtest right now, still no issues halfway in pass 1/2

[abstract wigeon]

nope, not one with access to gemini pro

[sonic stag]

Im actually writing a paper with an llm

[deep musk]

So if I understand correctly you were either running four ram sticks and it wouldn’t boot until you removed two of them or you were running two ram sticks and moving them to the other slots made it boot?

[restive plinth]

Man that sucks
Ask gemini for help to guide you through it-

[jaunty apex]

Neither. I just reseated slots 1 and 3. All sticks present still

[sonic stag]

Think that sounds interesting?

[jaunty apex]

Almost removed 1 and 3 but my PC was still powered lol, snapped them back in and tried again out of curiosity

[deep musk]

Oh, interesting

[deep musk]

Really weird

[empty quartz]

@deep musk ive learned what one of my favourite types of alcohol is

:3

[jaunty apex]

I always have the least diagnosable issues smh

Put that red x on my last motherboard lol

[deep musk]

What is it?>w<

[empty quartz]

Tequila

Fucking goated

[deep musk]

Ohh nicey

[empty quartz]

Then again, ive been drinking every day since the 14th 😭

(Im not an alcoholic, im on vacation)

[jaunty apex]

#tech-chat-1 message

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/xwf-harvey-steve-harvey-alcohol-alcoholic-gif-9090029671315053901

[worn willow]

whats best cpu rn

[hallow jasper]

Maybe 9995WX?

/s

Please expand your question

[worn willow]

best chip that is affordable

[hallow jasper]

Best at what

[worn willow]

performance

[jaunty apex]

Affordable for who

[hallow jasper]

performance at what

[worn willow]

work

[deep musk]

What do you plan on doing with it?

[hallow jasper]

You may think i'm being difficult, but what you think is a simple question, isn't. it depends

[worn willow]

working

[deep musk]

What kind of work

[worn willow]

remote

[stray holly]

What programs.

[hallow jasper]

lol, I can't. Have fun

[worn willow]

visual studio

[stray holly]

M4 macbook air.

[worn willow]

m4 is old

[hallow jasper]

Buy a 270k Plus and be done with it

[deep musk]

Remote like remoting into a computer or remote like work from home?

[worn willow]

work from home

[versed ferry]

Depends on what you're doing.

[kindred halo]

Yeah personally an M4A1 or similar is much MUCH better

[jaunty apex]

M5 Mac mini

[kindred halo]

Full auto & modular

[worn willow]

didnt release yet i think

also i dont have keyboard or screen

[deep musk]

Will you compile code on your computer?

[worn willow]

yes

[jaunty apex]

You're asking for a CPU bro

[versed ferry]

We only decompile here.

[deep musk]

Large stuff or small stuff?

[worn willow]

depends

it also needs to run chrome

excel
word

[deep musk]

What’s the average size of compiling that you do, cause if it’s comparable to the Linux kernel get the same machine as Linus torvals in the video ltt made

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/look-pim-lost-cause-smiling-friends-gif-1264940406406447253

[worn willow]

i want a laptop

[deep musk]

Any processor can run chrome

[clear canyon]

What power mode is ur battery, and are you actively plugged into the charger

[worn willow]

good battery needed

a screen

[deep musk]

Get a MacBook (arm windows/Linux laptops aren’t really there yet)

[worn willow]

air or pro or noe

[deep musk]

Pro

[worn willow]

what chip

how much ram
how much storage

[deep musk]

Idk, you said m4 is too old so get the m5 I guess

[jaunty apex]

..lol

M5 isnt out he thinks though

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[worn willow]

for imac mini

[deep musk]

How can m4 be too old then??

[jaunty apex]

Rumors point at June IG for the mini. Idk.

People still like M1 so

[worn willow]

maybe on vwdc we will know

[jaunty apex]

If you plan to compile AOSP, might want at least 32GB memory.. Storage depends on how much you're installing and using the main drive. Storage costs more for apple usually than using external drives

[rigid fjord]

are your brain cells competing for last place?

[worn willow]

my current laptop isnt enough for me anyone

[terse pewter]

i dont want to look like an asshole, but it feels like this convo was like talking to a caveman 😭

[deep musk]

What is it?

And don’t say “my laptop” cause I’ll kill myself

[worn willow]

lenovo with
ryzen 7 7435hs
24gb ram
rtx 4050
512 gb ssd

[jaunty apex]

I need rock
"What kind of rock?"
Hard
"How hard? How large?"
Won't break.
"What are you using the rock for"
Breaking.
"Breaking what?"
Depends.

[deep musk]

That’s not enough?? You could upgrade the ram and and do a fresh install of windows to see if it helps, if it’s still not enough upgrade to another better laptop

[worn willow]

ram soldered i guess
i dont need another windows because windiws is fine

[deep musk]

Are you sure the ram is soldered? And doing a fresh install of windows can help a lot especially if it’s never been reinstalled

[worn willow]

its 1 year old and few months
it cant be windows fault

[deep musk]

It can be, trust me

[jaunty apex]

windows is a machine that turns updates into major bug #20

[worn willow]

microslop windows turns my ram into used ram

I CANT WHY

[deep musk]

Yeah, reinstall it cause you very probably have random stuff running in the background using said ram and upgrade the ram to at least 32gb

[worn willow]

should i screenshot taskmanager

[rigid fjord]

sounds like they have a LOQ essential which means the ram isn't soldered, also the 7435hs is a 7735hs that's had an issue or 2, so not that great a mobile cpu

[deep musk]

Yeah but it’s still better to reinstall windows, upgrade to 32gb and see if it’s still not enough than just outright buying a new laptop without even trying anything

[worn willow]

i need figure out what eats up my ram

[rigid fjord]

the user

[deep musk]

Yeah, that’s what I thought, a gaming laptop without soldered ram would have been weird

[jaunty apex]

Open task manager, sort by ram highest to lowest.

[jaunty apex]

Shrimple as that

[worn willow]

atleast i get stable fps

[deep musk]

No shit you’re over utilizing the ram you have at least one virtual machine running

[worn willow]

its a background task maybe

[midnight harbor]

ltt should start selling panel mounted truespec cables fr

[deep musk]

And games too

[deep musk]

Not it’s not

[jaunty apex]

2 games and 6 VM processes.. I wonder what's taking the memory

[worn willow]

im playing the game

[deep musk]

It’s a vm running in the background

[jaunty apex]

Man I dont wanna contact google, but this latency is so bad ATP.

[worn willow]

oh its just 2 vms

[deep musk]

“Just two VMs” they are eating up at least 9 gig of ram total

[midnight harbor]

get more ram

[jaunty apex]

Yeah.. I think my memory is fine. I hate this

[worn willow]

13 gb

[deep musk]

No, before buying more they should shut down the damn vm instead of complaining that windows uses all of their ram

[deep musk]

Even worse

[rigid fjord]

2 sticks to make up that 32gb?

[midnight harbor]

oh
the issue here is neither getting more ram or 2 vms

[worn willow]

oh thats why it lagge

[midnight harbor]

delete windows 🙏

[rigid fjord]

ah, mind sharing your timings you got set?

[deep musk]

Yes, it’s the two VMs running in the background using 13 gb of ram

That’s a problem

[midnight harbor]

btw whats the context
why are there 2 vms running in the background

[worn willow]

couldve bought a mac

[deep musk]

No idea, they came in here asking for help about getting a new laptop cause theirs wasn’t cold enough anymore, complaining about windows using to much ram, then we learn that there’s two random ass VMs running in the background

[worn willow]

still 8gb taken

[deep musk]

Can’t play roblox nor your other game on that

[jaunty apex]

Me disabling core windows processes for performance.. Naw let's run 2 vms and games, and get a new laptop for performance because this one isnt working well anymore

[deep musk]

Yeah, the game you’re playing maybe?

[midnight harbor]

holy shit why would you run 2 vms in the background while using a laptop

[worn willow]

windows updates

[jaunty apex]

😩

[midnight harbor]

sounds stupid

[deep musk]

No idea

[midnight harbor]

how is windows update related

[deep musk]

Huh? No…

[worn willow]

updating windows

[deep musk]

In the VMs?

[worn willow]

yes

[jaunty apex]

Bro probably got ratted months ago

Some attacker is just mining crypto or smth on their system lol

[deep musk]

Im sorry, im really not trying to be mean, but how can you be techy enough to use virtual machines but don’t understand that, that’s why your ram is filled up???

Is this like a prank or something??? Am I missing something??

[worn willow]

youre missing that my ram is eaten by vm

[jaunty apex]

16-18-18-38

[deep musk]

Im very much not missing that part

[worn willow]

i just do stuff with my laptop

[rigid fjord]

that's only the primaries, when in windows run zentimings to show it

[worn willow]

and the vms are just a vm

[jaunty apex]

Loonix

[deep musk]

This has to be a prank or something my brain can’t process this situation otherwise

[jaunty apex]

i suppose they are listed for me for a reason, this likely isnt the first time

[midnight harbor]

probably someone trolling or ragebaiting or something of this sort

[deep musk]

(I wasn’t talking about you qwq)

[jaunty apex]

No I know

[rigid fjord]

believe there's a version of hwinfo that will work with it, and that has a way to show the timings

[worn willow]

i minimismised the windows and i thought it will remove ram usage

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/riro-riro-ron-vtuber-anime-sad-gif-11862576451543336106

[midnight harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311002460030111795/1311003613790994505/Linux_terrorist.gif

[worn willow]

and it didnt

[midnight harbor]

[jaunty apex]

HardInfo2

[rigid fjord]

hmm, pain, though found this from googling the model number on the sticks, does it look about right for it?

[jaunty apex]

Is that.. not kinda what I showed? I feel like Im missing something. That says 16-18-18-38 yeah?

[left dove]

3 6 9 DAMN FEELIN FINE

to the windoooooows

to the walls

[rigid fjord]

this is showing the full timings not the primary timings only

[jaunty apex]

Ahhh

[rigid fjord]

if i was to compare my ram to the image i found on google for the ram kits

[jaunty apex]

If thats not it Ill boot to windows rq I suppose

Eh ill just do it ig

[rigid fjord]

just comparing my oc on my 3200 kit to the stock timings for their 3600 kits

very close to stock on mine, fair enough

[rigid fjord]

hmm, you might find you can OC and push your kit to 3800 cl16 instead

[jaunty apex]

I might try to OC it again, idk. Right now Im just having intermittent issues

My CPU cant boost else it just panics after a bit, load or no

[rigid fjord]

with a good pbo tune, eh, you shouldn't see past 4.9-5ghz tbh

[jaunty apex]

Another random shutdown.

(No boosting)

[rigid fjord]

that'll be either power or heat related, what cooler you using?

[cold skiff]

Ram overclocking is reserved for tc2 😉

[jaunty apex]

Just bootlooping again now.

[jaunty apex]

Kraken x53

[rigid fjord]

well technically #overclocking

[rigid fjord]

those are known to die fast tbh, would be better off with a decent air cooler or an arctic/thermalright aio

[deep musk]

Only time I saw this was when the first pcie slot of a mobo was dead and putting the gpu in the second slot resolved the crashing issue

[jaunty apex]

I was worried it was either my mobo or PSU the other day.

[jaunty apex]

That GPU hasn't left its slot in over 3 years

[cold skiff]

That’s not the meta for ram overclocking

[cosmic marsh]

microsoft just sponsored sphyerPK to basically do a windows advertisement, i feel like theyre getting worried about the growth of linux lol

[median warren]

Yeah they should be and I'm all for it

[deep musk]

Yep was also the case with the dead slot I had to troubleshoot

[median warren]

Especially after France is converting 2.5 million windows computers to Linux

[cosmic marsh]

yeah me too

[jaunty apex]

I agree.. Can't afford to switch it out yet but my temps dont go above 70 far as I'm aware, certainly not near idle

[cold skiff]

The French doing recycling

[median warren]

Hell yeah

[cosmic marsh]

microslop ts is NOT tuff

[median warren]

rare french w

[rigid fjord]

screw meta, they can jump into a pit of hydrochloric acid

[jaunty apex]

They reach above 80 when i run mprime but.. Thats a stress test too.

[worn willow]

in my country linux is "big scary terminal os"

[grizzled frost]

that's like every country other than power users

[median warren]

It's like that for most people

[grizzled frost]

vast majority of people hear "linux" and either have no idea what it is, or thing it's some scary computer hacker thing

[cosmic marsh]

your country also prolly uses linux for their servers rn

[median warren]

You're too right

[worn willow]

while my parents know linux and windows but dont know macos 😭

[grizzled frost]

The people that actually know what linux is, and are open to using it is the vast minority of people

[rigid fjord]

his country is in his own head

[jaunty apex]

Windows makes me feel terminal

[grizzled frost]

half the time using the terminal to do something in windows is easier than using the wack ass UI

[median warren]

I mean I know people that when I used words such as ram, operating system, aio, GPU, they just completely tune out and when I explain it they always respond with "idk that's too complicated for me, I don't get it", I think people underestimate how NOT tech savvy the average user

[cosmic marsh]

i absolutely despeise the fact that control panel is begging to phase out

some control panel options take you to windows settings

[grizzled frost]

Now that smart phones are so ubiquitous and oversimplified it's only going to get worse

[median warren]

Absolutely

[grizzled frost]

I 100% blame the smart phone for the trend of oversimplifying UI

[median warren]

I mean these are also the same people that think once you move something to the recycling bin and empty it, that it completely deletes it from your pc

[jaunty apex]

No shit though. I had 3 computer classes with my peers, every time they listed what parts are inside a computer. Said peers were clueless

[median warren]

It's actually kinda sad and frustrating at the same time

[grizzled frost]

or the people that think if you sign out then all the data on it is irrecoverable

[median warren]

That's a good one too

[deep musk]

Or others that think that minimizing a VM’s window will stop it from using ram

(Actually happened, in this channel not too long ago)

[jaunty apex]

Same guy reading Green eggs and ham in 10th grade still gets to me lol

[median warren]

I once helped someone install curseforge, right? If you installed it before you know you need to uncheck some stuff so it doesn't install random software with it like overwolf

I had to walk this person through how to install it and it took us 25 minutes, because they just immediately clicked on everything and read nothing

And then I had to teach them how to use revo uninstaller

It was actually kind of painful but I understand them

[cosmic marsh]

thats why i always use anydesk whenever i have to help my friends

[grizzled frost]

I blame companies for setting that precedent, there's so many things you need to agree to when you install software now that most people just click accept on everything

[cosmic marsh]

having to repeat myself like 6 or 7 times pisses me off so much

[jaunty apex]

I just wish people were more open to learning rather than letting everything they do be a means to an end

[grizzled frost]

I guarantee you that is how the vast majority of people get viruses

[median warren]

I want to be able to teach them so Im not constant tech support guy

[grizzled frost]

my extended family luckily hasn't realized just how proficient i am with computers, so they don't bother me

[median warren]

Yeah that is true, it is definitely mostly their fault but some blame goes on the users too for being lazy and not reading something

[grizzled frost]

Oh 100%, it's also getting worse due to a lack of computer literacy classes in school

They've largely been phased out because "everyone is on their computer anyways"

[cosmic marsh]

valid, but yk they also have chatgpt or gemeni

[jaunty apex]

Yikes.

[median warren]

I sold my old pc to my best friend (10700k, 3070, 32gb ddr4 + p310) and he renamed me tech support on discord as he always asks me stuff about how to do something on pc

[grizzled frost]

Like, NO, You need to teach these people how to properly use their computer

[median warren]

He is figuring it out tho, slowly, I've had less requests

[grizzled frost]

handing a toddler an ipad and calling it a day is not okay

[worn willow]

they learn

[median warren]

Yeaaah but they can be wrong

[grizzled frost]

No, they won't, that's the problem

[worn willow]

they just click stuff

[median warren]

Yeah and tbh if anything, there needs to be more IT classes and lessons around it

[grizzled frost]

They will simply be passed along in the school system, and fail to be a functioning member of society

[deep musk]

Not a super good source ngl, and telling people use ai for that can lead to them asking everything to the ai

[worn willow]

ai hallucinates somebody

[grizzled frost]

One of my coworkers genuinely did not know how to copy and paste

[worn willow]

it once told me i need rename my chip to intel so it works

[jaunty apex]

Literally they drilled into your head what spam was when i was a kid. And even then it still took me till I was in high school to understand I wasn't getting those free Robux.

[grizzled frost]

Like not even that they didn't know the shortcut, they just flat out had no idea that was even a thing

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/riro-riro-ron-vtuber-anime-sad-gif-11862576451543336106

[grizzled frost]

How do you even live to adulthood in the US, and not know how to copy and paste

like how is that even physically possible

[worn willow]

ctrl c ctrl v

[median warren]

It's actually sad

[cosmic marsh]

id rather that then be on a call for 30 minutes explaining the same thing

[grizzled frost]

They didn't even know how to do it by right clicking, like they didn't know copy and paste even as a concept was a thing, let alone how to do it

[sinful cobalt]

iroh do I get b-die ddr4 or ecc ones if I wanna do a home server and play with some tuning

fun or logical

[grizzled frost]

ECC always

[worn willow]

i know people who cant turn on a monitor and a mac mini

[sinful cobalt]

what consumer cpu/platform do ya think i should target, 1700 or am4?

[grizzled frost]

neither handle ECC well

[sinful cobalt]

yeah fuck me

[grizzled frost]

i don't think they even sorta support it

[deep musk]

Almost all am4 supports ecc, only a couple of intel chips supports it and with a very specific chipset Thats basically impossible to find a mobo with (for intel)

[grizzled frost]

I was planning on going LGA 2066 for my next build

[grizzled frost]

All AM4 unofficially supports it

[cold skiff]

More pins. More power.

[jaunty apex]

I'm gonna buy a skateboard. I'm just gonna let my PC rot for a while I guess because i can't afford PC parts rn

[grizzled frost]

Some AM4 boards do actually officially support it though, mostly just server specific boards

[rigid fjord]

if you go am4, only the cpu's ending in 'X' and only on certain mobo's will it work with ecc ram

[dawn garden]

hey guys

[sinful cobalt]

I might consider a 5800x/XT in this situation?

[dawn garden]

^_^ thanks for helping me figure out my ram the other day

[deep musk]

Not the non pro apus

[sinful cobalt]

i have the sudden urge to do a useless backflip outta my couch

[rigid fjord]

it's also cpu dependent when it comes to am4

[cold skiff]

Can you actually backflip

[grizzled frost]

5000 series has unofficial support, so it'll probably work with any of those chips

[left dove]

pls dont break yourself lmao

[sinful cobalt]

thats a good question

[dawn garden]

i have a 5700 (non g non x )

amd r7 5700 that is

[deep musk]

Not if it’s a non pro G cpu

[grizzled frost]

every 5000 series AM4 CPU has at least unofficial support for ECC memory

the Pro chips have official support

[dawn garden]

im not sure what ECC memory is so i cant speak to that D_D

i just find it hilarious that i have a cpu that google says doesnt exist

and yet..here i am. XD

[rigid fjord]

only 5#00x's do, the 'G' sku's and ones without the 'X' on don't

[grizzled frost]

Error Correction, it essentially uses parity data in transit to ensure that all data is received correctly

[dawn garden]

oh okay

[grizzled frost]

consumer DDR5 is also technically ECC, but it's unbuffered, so it only has on dimm ECC

[median warren]

It's stable ram

[grizzled frost]

So it verifies the data sent by the DIMM is correct, but it doesn't verify that it was received correctly

[dawn garden]

iroh is a master id trust him on this

[grizzled frost]

True ECC will verify both, that the data sent is correct, and the data received is correct

[dawn garden]

i heard he makes a bangin jasmine tea too 😉

[ivory mountain]

id rather get vilod to make me mead with juniper berries mixed in

[grizzled frost]

Dragon of the West* and former General

[dawn garden]

haha okay

im glad i get both those references. im one of the cool kids mom

[deep musk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1f0gxyk/which_am4_motherboards_support_ecc_memory_for_the/

They can’t even run it properly

[dawn garden]

hey guys i have a kind of random not really hardware (unless you count monitors) question

is there a POINT to youtube always setting all my videos to run in 4k if available if i only have a 1080p screen?

like???

[grizzled frost]

Ah, so almost every chip supports it unofficially, except the -g lineup has no support for it, but the -g pro lineup has official support for it

[grizzled frost]

higher bitrate

[dawn garden]

oh really??

[grizzled frost]

1080p isn't always the same as 1080p, the bitrate is also super relevant

[dawn garden]

so basically i should use 4k even tho i have 1080 monitor?

[grizzled frost]

1mbps 1080p is gonna look a lot different than 5mbps 1080p

[dawn garden]

sweet thanks mr Dragon Sir

[grizzled frost]

there's no downside to it

[dawn garden]

i was just wondering if i was using more of my network than i need to

[deep musk]

Yes, the g chips can’t even boot with ecc (I have a 5600gt and ecc ram, trust me the standard g chips just can’t)

[grizzled frost]

Got it, i was just misunderstanding the nuance there with the G series chips

[deep musk]

Oki doki

[balmy bison]

can someone help me, everytime i go into fullscreen on youtube the video goes really dim when i have hdr enabled in windows settings but its normal if im not in fullscreen

[dawn garden]

what can a AMD Ryzen 7 5700 do?

with no G no X no T. just 5700

google tells me it doesnt exist and yet its what is on my board

[deep musk]

Anything a regular Ryzen 5000 cpu can do

[dawn garden]

except integrated graphcis right?

[gusty wagon]

the 5700 is the predecessor of the 6700

[deep musk]

Cause her only turns on in full screen

[dawn garden]

google says my cpu doesnt exist

[gusty wagon]

i went from the 480 to the 6800xt so i had a huge jump in comparison

[dawn garden]

and that i probably meant the 5700x... 😐 😐 😐

[deep musk]

Only the g variants have integrated graphics

[gusty wagon]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700.c3305

[dawn garden]

yeah thats what i thought, p-d-p

[deep musk]

(It’s the cpu, not gpu)

[dawn garden]

i shall call you p-d-p if you dont mind

since idk how to do accents ^_^

[deep musk]

Ish oki wif me

[gusty wagon]

just call her pretty lady

[dawn garden]

actually p-d-p sounds a bit much like pewdiepie

[gusty wagon]

walking down the street

[grizzled frost]

AM5 chips by default have integrated graphics unless it's the F series, on AM4 chips by default do not have integrated graphics unless it's the g variant

[gusty wagon]

the kind i'd like to meet

[deep musk]

Yeah, they aren’t available (easily) on an English keyboard

[deep musk]

(On am4)

[grizzled frost]

funny, my keyboard only lets me do å, not a standard accented a

[gusty wagon]

what about the R9 9800FG?

[grizzled frost]

fuck you sif

[gusty wagon]

QwQ

[deep musk]

[rigid fjord]

this is an abomination that should never exist, as it's a 5700g with the igpu disabled

[rigid fjord]

yes and no

[gusty wagon]

well that's how you get the macbook neo

by binning

[deep musk]

Why not?

[gusty wagon]

https://youtu.be/GnOpIQJnYWU

[deep musk]

Oh wait, it might not have ecc support

[gusty wagon]

it has ecc

and pcie3.0

[deep musk]

The 5700? Isn’t it a g variant without an igpu?

[worn willow]

LAPTOP PRO

[rigid fjord]

as it's a 5700g with the igpu disabled, it performs considerably worser than going for a 5600

[deep musk]

Oof, all other non g have pcie4.0

[dawn garden]

rauko i see

[deep musk]

*5000 series

[worn willow]

tim cook 🪦

[dawn garden]

i didnt go for it to be fair. it came with my prebuilt

from when i first got into having a desktop i didnt know what i was doing and i got this pc at walmart

[deep musk]

It’s not that bad for a first pc (that is a prebuilt)

[rigid fjord]

the cache is what sucks mostly on it, that and the only good thing for 5700g's is the igpu

[deep musk]

Ohh okii

[dawn garden]

ibuypower sold it to me for 999$ and it came with this setup : gigabyte b550 ud ac y1 (rev 1.0), amd Ryzen 7 5700, 16gb apacer 3000mt/s DDR4 ram, MSI Nvidia GeForce 3060 Ventus 12GB OCx2 (or something like that), WD BLUE SN570 1TB

and a wlan card that was obsolete when i bought it and running wifi4

(but i didnt know that )

[deep musk]

Damn, that’s the mobo I should have gotten instead of the b550 eagle wifi6

[rigid fjord]

most of that is decent, just need a cpu swap out on it to make it better

[gusty wagon]

my first prebuilt that i bought myself that was pre-built was a 2100 that i upgraded to a 2600

[dawn garden]

yeah cpu huh. the scariest part

cpu swap out is like boss mode pc upgrade

[rustic lynx]

Should I get a contact frame y'all?

[dawn garden]

;-; im scared of thermal paste

[deep musk]

Which cpu?

[rustic lynx]

LGA1700

Not a CPU but it doesn't matter what cpu

[rigid fjord]

it's one of the easiest things to do tbh, and the paste app is even easier

[deep musk]

Hmmm, you can get one but not required

[deep musk]

Why tho? (Juss curious)

[rustic lynx]

The cpu is 5 years old so idk bro. What would you do?

[dawn garden]

because i have a mental disability and i will forget to put it on i know it i just knooww it

[worn willow]

just put enough of it

[deep musk]

I would bother with it personally

[rigid fjord]

apply it to the cooler ahead of time instead

[median warren]

It's not conductive, even if you spam a bunch directly into the socket, it will still work

[deep musk]

sticky note enters the chat hello i can en very useful to not forget stuff 👉👈

(not trying to be mean, trying to be funy)

[dawn garden]

do cpus come with coolers

[median warren]

If you know you're forgetful then take measures to remind yourself, set a reminder on your phone or use sticky notes like poignee said

[dawn garden]

when you buy them? maybe thatll be my next purchase

[median warren]

Some, but most don't

[rustic lynx]

Most

[rigid fjord]

with what you've been at, i wouldn't trust you near any pc

[dawn garden]

also, about my windows situation

if i change cpu do i need a new license?

[median warren]

No

[rigid fjord]

totally incorrect

[rustic lynx]

Alr bro

[deep musk]

Depends

[rigid fjord]

only some do, and that's a limited few compared to the many that don't come with a stock cooler

[median warren]

Some am4 cpus and older intel CPUs came with stock coolers but cpus nowadays don't

[deep musk]

All low tier to mid tier ones usually come with one. All of the high tier one don’t

[median warren]

I dunno man

[rustic lynx]

These coolers aren't very good for cooling high end cpus so

[dawn garden]

one of the fans in my case doesnt work right

idk why it never comes on

[rustic lynx]

Is it plugged in

[median warren]

Connection issue

[dawn garden]

duno how to check that... :S

[rustic lynx]

Uh

[dawn garden]

i have 5 fans so i am just like "eh"

[carmine yew]

a wlan card?
That mobo should come with Wireless

[rigid fjord]

eh...yesn't

[deep musk]

Follow the fan’s cable and check if it’s plugged into something

[dawn garden]

it didnt it came with some kinda intel ax3610 or something?

i had to uninstall it when i got my wifi 6e card from gigabyte a month or so ago

well its running right now

so its plugged in.. just sometimes it doesnt ?

[rustic lynx]

Check if it's plugged all the way in

[dawn garden]

and the rgb is always lit up even when its not running...

[worn willow]

if not
plug it in
else
check if its plugged

[dawn garden]

i see... but my psu is hard to get to :S

i will try tho

[rustic lynx]

Psu?

[dawn garden]

the case they gave me is awful. its like 60 lbs for the tower

[rustic lynx]

They are in the Mobo..

[dawn garden]

oh...

well that should be a lot easer then 😄

[rustic lynx]

MOST of the time

[dawn garden]

(i dont know what im doing here sorry i didnt install them and i never messed with fans)

[deep musk]

People usually won’t go and buy a tray cpu if they don’t know a lot

[dawn garden]

https://tenor.com/tAHy.gif

[rustic lynx]

Go and check all the connections on the motherboard

[deep musk]

It’s fine don’t worry we’ve all been there

[dawn garden]

...should i mess with it while its running

[rustic lynx]

No

[dawn garden]

or wait until i notice it stops ?

[rustic lynx]

Turn off the pc

[sinful cobalt]

💀

[dawn garden]

or completely shut it down and tthen do it

[rustic lynx]

Shut down

[dawn garden]

oh ok

[deep musk]

Yes

[dawn garden]

ill leave it alone for now

i dont wanna take the glass off my case...

its so heavy -_-

[rustic lynx]

You should do it now

[dawn garden]

all so my wall can see into my mobo... #genius

[rustic lynx]

You might forget later or smth

[dawn garden]

nah i tend to remember stuff like this i just forget steps

sometimes it will spin a bit and then stop and then spin a bit and then stop

like its having trouble running the motor or something?

[rustic lynx]

Maybe clean the pc

[dawn garden]

i do every 2 weeks :S

but i was told not to blow air into the fans

[rustic lynx]

Compressed air. Please hold the fans while cleaning

[dawn garden]

yeah that

cos spinning creates charge right

[rustic lynx]

Probably connection loose

[carmine yew]

your mobo should have onboard wireless:
the two round gold things are for the antennas

The little card behind them is the wifi card

[rustic lynx]

Not enough to damage a mobo but not worth to test

[dawn garden]

yeah it did but it was crappy

[carmine yew]

it can, but as long as you don't spin them to crazy high speeds, it's not usually a problem

[dawn garden]

i uninstalled it and replaced it with a wlan card from gigabyte

in late feb

[carmine yew]

It's WIFI AC - WIFI 5

[dawn garden]

mine wasnt wifi5 i dont think

the driver became obsolete according to intel

they werent supporting it anymore after like 2021

i got the pc in 2023....

then one day windows update borked it where it would only connect to wifi4

so slow..... 🙁

[carmine yew]

it's not an intel wifi card

[dawn garden]

i still have it want a picture

it says intel o.o

[carmine yew]

uhhh not at all

[dawn garden]

its definitely intel

[gusty wagon]

gottem

[dawn garden]

that is what i pulled out of my mobo

[carmine yew]

interesting, because that's not what gigabyte lists as coming with the board

[dawn garden]

they probably took the real one and replaced it with this

b550 ud ac rev 1.0?

i got my pc from ibuypower they are shady

they skimp on parts and then charge you premium ;-;

when i was buying it i didnt know much about pcs

and i had money burning a hole in my pocket

so i was like "WOW IT LOOKS SO COOL" and yeah

[carmine yew]

hmmm, looks like the 1.0 might have had intel. hmmmmmm

[dawn garden]

3168ngw

thats the model of intel wlan/bluetooth card it is

now i have a gigabyte ax210

[carmine yew]

ax210 is nice

[dawn garden]

its awesome 😄 i get 600mbps down sometimes

and im like 90 feet from my gateway

that was my first "real" tech upgrade

then 2 days ago i doubled my ram and upped my mt/s

from 16gb 3000mt/s to 32gb 3200mt/s

and then sold the 16gb for 10$ gas money

so it cost me 150$ to double my ram in middle of rampocalypse

which ik ik, its a lot for ddr4 but yeah

its my only chance i am very poor

[deep musk]

could have sold it for a bit more than just 10 $

[dawn garden]

yeah but id have to figure out who to sell it to

[knotty bolt]

What mousepad should i buy?

[dawn garden]

i live in very rural area and im not on fb

[deep musk]

oh oki

[dawn garden]

you should buy an LTT deskpad 😄

[deep musk]

facts

[dawn garden]

but do it on friday and leave a message and tell linus hes very short

then i can point to my screen and go "OH MY GOD I KNOW THAT GUYYYY"

[deep musk]

yesssss

[deep musk]

same

[worn willow]

linux is short?

[stray portal]

I like intel

[worn willow]

i like apple

[stray portal]

Blue

[dawn garden]

i like lamp

[rustic lynx]

Get ethernet

If you can. It's million times better

[dawn garden]

again, 90 feet from gateway through entirety of house

[worn willow]

screen

[stray portal]

I hope my cpu will never die, stay strong 5700x 🫡

It can still handle most games tho

[deep musk]

I like my plushies

[stray portal]

If i ever have to upgrade and ram prices wont be normal ima have to get 8gb

[rustic lynx]

I do that lol

[worn willow]

just get 8gb and 8gb and 8gb

that makes it 16

or 24

[stray portal]

That would be triple channel kinda stank

[worn willow]

8gb and 8gb and 8gb and 8gb

triple+1 channel

[stray portal]

But wait if i ever get am5 i will say screw it and have 4 sticks of ram

[dawn garden]

i have 4 sticks of ram

is that bad??? >_>

[worn willow]

no

[dawn garden]

whats the point of having 4 slots if you cant use 4 sticks... :S

[worn willow]

prices

[dawn garden]

oh

you can get 3600mt/s ddr4 16gb for 85$ at walmart rn

thats what i did. bought 2 kits and joined them

[deep musk]

Not with ddr4 (your cpu is ddr4), with ddr5 you often can’t run the ram at full speed if there’s 4 stick instead of 2

[worn willow]

glue or not

[sinful cobalt]

simply for capacity

doesnt really apply to large capacities bcs you’ll be imc limited

[rigid fjord]

gigabyte being correct on the nic usage is about as consistant as a pie not being a lie when i comes to am4 dude

[deep musk]

A pie not being a lie?

[rigid fjord]

dumbest part, the drives for the nic is most likely on the intel version of the same mobo when it comes to gigabyte and an amd mobo

[rigid fjord]

yes, when a pie isn't a pie, it's a lie

[deep musk]

Ohhh sowwy, didn’t understand first time

[north hill]

is the Corsair FRAME 4000D RS a good case?

[craggy cove]

yes

[rustic lynx]

Why are these budget 150$ motorolas actually good lol. Trying the G56 rn and it's so smooth

[north hill]

looks big af, which i like

[craggy cove]

only for genius?

[rigid fjord]

a true pie has a short crust body/base with a puf pastry top, when it doesn't have this and is still called a pie, it's not a pie

[north hill]

i'm a pie!

[craggy cove]

do you have a 120hz display on your main phone

[north hill]

or used to be...
now i'm a liquid metal or some shit

[rustic lynx]

Yeah..

[rigid fjord]

yes it's a decent case and yes it will handle the lf3 pro 240

[craggy cove]

oh then idk xd

[north hill]

changed that for a Thermalright PA120 SE

less hassle

[rustic lynx]

That Motorola ain't my phone btw... I never will switch to a Motorola from my lovely ximi and pixel 6

[craggy cove]

air cooler respect

[north hill]

and plenty enough to cool the 5900X

[rigid fjord]

slimmer rad, makes it easier to install

[north hill]

air is fine

[craggy cove]

only problem with an old phone is the battery tbh

replacements for mine are stupidly expensive/scam garbage batteries

[rustic lynx]

Fr

[craggy cove]

next phone of mine is going to be the x8 pro max with 8500 mah

unless they release something else better value idk

[rigid fjord]

like the sheppards/fish/cottage pies are called pies but are technically a savoury casserole and not actually a pie @deep musk

[rigid fjord]

air coolers be perfectly fine, but i meant for if you chose a thermalright aio

[rustic lynx]

X8 pro is so good. Wish I could have it over my F6. The F6 is still solid but the X8 pro is 🔥

8500 is crazy work

[north hill]

maybe next upgrade

[craggy cove]

important to get the pro max variant

[north hill]

in 2028 or whatever

[craggy cove]

amazing naming scheme

maybe next year's f series will have the insane si/c batteries too

[rigid fjord]

they be bullshitting a bit there, x3d cpu's totally fine for 1440p, the only reason to go non-x3d is if you're doing more than just gaming

[rustic lynx]

They fucked up with that. Like went from 15 series and their T, T PRO to pro, pro max and to 17 instead of 16 like bro wtf

[craggy cove]

rn they only have like 6500 mah ones

[worn willow]

try razer fold moto

[rustic lynx]

Never Motorola as main

[craggy cove]

but how does the cpu scale in 4k smh

[rigid fjord]

realistically it don't, 4k = all on gpu

[craggy cove]

i think hwunboxed needs to make another video on this

[worn willow]

i have moto main

[craggy cove]

cause people still dont learn apparently

[rustic lynx]

Which one? I heard shit tons that Motorola's are ahh

The G56 is so smooth tho

[worn willow]

g60s
and i want to turn on airplane mode
open window
throw

[rustic lynx]

Damn lol

[craggy cove]

ah well he got you there

[rustic lynx]

If only the Samsung flips were cheaper bro

[worn willow]

buy iphone 6

[craggy cove]

1440p performs better on the 9700x cause you have more budget for the gpu

[rustic lynx]

Hell yeah bro🔥

[craggy cove]

an iq too high?

[rustic lynx]

Yeah

[rigid fjord]

he hasn't though, 1440p is on both the cpu and gpu, still mostly on cpu,

[rustic lynx]

Yo I'm bouta get the pixel 6 pro as my secondary in 10 mins I'm so excited

[rigid fjord]

@deep musk in full

[worn willow]

i want get iphne 17

[rustic lynx]

They are good. Overpriced imo

[craggy cove]

rtx 5050 costs 600$ and 9070 xt costs 629$ idk

[rustic lynx]

I'm sorry for people who bought the 16. 17 is so much better

[worn willow]

bigger screen
120hzfpsc

[craggy cove]

9700x vs 7800x3d on aliexpress is like a 20€ price difference so idk what he was talking about even

[rustic lynx]

Hzfpsc? That doesn't exist

HZ.. not whatever that

[worn willow]

120hz = 120fps = 120 c

[rustic lynx]

Well no..

If the phone is weak ass it won't pull 120FPS

[worn willow]

mine barely pulls 10 fps

[craggy cove]

wow the non pro has 120hz now? welcome to 2020 apple

[rigid fjord]

and the 5050 is aimed at 1080p only, where as the 9070xt is aimed at 1440p while giving you the choice of trying out 4k

[rustic lynx]

Mine pulls 90 in genshin on max. I don't really see why you need THAT performance on a phone but whatever

Playing games on mobile is hell

[dawn garden]

i havea iphone 17 pro max

[worn willow]

mine pulls 30 fps on anything that isnt a game

[carmine yew]

5050 is 600?
what?

The 5060 TI 16GB is around 500

[dawn garden]

i dont use it for gaming

[rustic lynx]

Overpriced and overrated but still good. IMO

[craggy cove]

16gb of vram is too powerful so scam altman had to ruin it all

[worn willow]

lets trade phones

[craggy cove]

(bad sarcasm)

[worn willow]

you get ewaste with screen
i get iphone 17 pro

[rustic lynx]

Yeah I'll trade my for the IP too

[dawn garden]

idk its my most expensive piece of hardware

[worn willow]

every 17 series is usable except air

[dawn garden]

i think it was ...2500$ ?

[rigid fjord]

9060xt 16gb going for around 400, aimed at 1080p but can do 1440p

[dawn garden]

or 2000?

[worn willow]

double and give it to next person

[dawn garden]

luckily at&t lets me pay 50$ a month installments

for 36 months

[rustic lynx]

Why..

[rigid fjord]

i have an iphone 14, i should really test it's screen out later

[dawn garden]

because im poor

[rustic lynx]

For a phone that's uhn

[rustic lynx]

Don't get a phone that's so expensive then ?

[dawn garden]

;-;

[craggy cove]

msrp is 350$... i hate how ive gotten used to these prices

[dawn garden]

i upgraded froma iphone 7s

[craggy cove]

though its still better value than anything else suppose

[dawn garden]

so .. this is going to last me a while 😐

[craggy cove]

its not the only one with a fake msrp

[rigid fjord]

it only floated around msrp at release and for a week or 2 after sadly

[abstract wigeon]

any ideas why my steam deck while docked can output 1080@120 fine, but when i set it to 4K@120 it gets super super choppy and probably runs at an unstable 10ish fps very choppy

[deep musk]

They might make a 9gb 5050 version too, i don’t even understand why

[deep musk]

Because it can’t play games at 4K??

[craggy cove]

wasnt too hard to get at msrp, required a lot of patience tho, just like how the 5090 fe was obtainable at msrp for a while

no chance of that happening anymore tho

[abstract wigeon]

not in games...

[fringe prairie]

$2000 on a phone? wow

[worn willow]

why new ceo apple
did steve jobs die

[deep musk]

Can the apu output a 4k120 signal?

[abstract wigeon]

yep

[deep musk]

No idea then tbh

[rigid fjord]

had to be super lucky to get a 5090 at msrp, otherwise nah, scalped to fuckery after release

[abstract wigeon]

cable can do 4k120 from my pc to tv aswell

i have no idea what issue could be

[craggy cove]

lying to best buy was the meta

[rigid fjord]

many apu's can do that, some aren't that great for it though

[worn willow]

auxliary power unit?

[rigid fjord]

go back to ztt

[worn willow]

what

[rigid fjord]

did i stutter?

[worn willow]

is ztt a

z tech tips?

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[rigid fjord]

it's where most of the trolls come from

[abstract wigeon]

any ideas what the issue could be? my brain is saying its some setting in my TV making it act wrong

[deep musk]

Do you have another display you can try this with?

[rigid fjord]

yes, the igpu, 4k on it won't be great at all

[abstract wigeon]

not another 4k120hz display no, it is able to output 1400p120hz on my monitor though

[abstract wigeon]

not in games, i mean in the steam menu it is looking all wierd

surely the IGPU can output 4k120hz on the steam app

[rigid fjord]

you'd need to reduce it to 30/60hz for the apu to be somewhat smoother

[deep musk]

Do you know the official max resolution/refresh rate of the apu?

[abstract wigeon]

i know that it can do 4k120

[rigid fjord]

remember, 4k res is all on the gpu performance

[halcyon turtle]

new intel lineup for the framework 13

[abstract wigeon]

valve website

[dawn garden]

i was wrong btw guys i paid 1400$

not 2000$

still its more expensive than my pc was

my pc cost me 999$ in 2023

[rigid fjord]

in the case of it, what an igpu is marked up to being able to do, and being actually able to do is different

[deep musk]

Does your adapter from usbc to hdmi support 4K 120?

[deep musk]

Damn, lucky

[abstract wigeon]

yes, works on my pc to run 4k120

[deep musk]

Not the cable

[carmine yew]

there's technical / fiscal reasons behind it.

[deep musk]

Really? on the 5050??

[carmine yew]

yes

[abstract wigeon]

oh sorry, yeah it does

[deep musk]

Welp, weird

[carmine yew]

getting 3x3GB Chips is vaguely cheaper than 4x2gb chips

[deep musk]

Then like @rigid fjord Said, your unit might not be able to output a 4k120 properly

[abstract wigeon]

[deep musk]

[rigid fjord]

also kinda easier on the bit bus

[carmine yew]

yup

it doesn't really make the 5050 any better going up to 9gb, other than it has slightly more memory

[rigid fjord]

try it at a lower refresh rate and see if there's a difference

[deep musk]

For some people that think bigger number==better it will make them buy it over an 8gb 5060

[rigid fjord]

can pretty much guarantee that due to 4k being purely on the gpu (igpu in this case) and the amount of ram the steam deck has, you're not going to have fun with 4k res

[deep musk]

Or oem will be able to say 9gb gpu instead of 8gb which will also work with these people

[abstract wigeon]

right about to

[rigid fjord]

you might not gain fps but you should gain a more smoother apperance dude

unless a 5090 got shoved into the steamdeck, you'll never have good 4k res usage

the design of the steamdecks pcb has it's limitations

ram being one of them, but tbh can't really knock it, it's got good performance for a handheld while being able to run a choice of OS's

[abstract wigeon]

4k@100hz is butter smooth

strange

im running it at 4k cus i want to stream with sunshine and moonlight

[fiery solstice]

my screen has a sticker on it that says it can run 120hz but when i go to display and try to increase the hz its stuck on 60 and below im new to windows so could anyone help me??

also my pc can run 120 hz

[frigid blade]

what resolution?

if its higher its probably because you plugged the cable into the motherboard HDMI instead of the GPU

[fiery solstice]

1080p

[cosmic marsh]

uhhh do you have gpu drivers?

[fiery solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[cosmic marsh]

seems like you also dont know

[fiery solstice]

mhm

[cosmic marsh]

open task manager and check in performance if you can see your gpu name

is you see microsoft basic display adapter that means you need gpu drivers

[fiery solstice]

amd radeon (TM) graphics

its a prebuilt (sort of its a mini geekom a6)

[abstract wigeon]

do you have a discrete gpu?

[abstract wigeon]

thats a mini pc right? does it have a descrete gpu?

[frigid blade]

i think thats iGPU

[fiery solstice]

i think its an igpu yeah

[abstract wigeon]

what cpu

[fiery solstice]

amd ryzen 7 6800h with radeon graphics

[frigid blade]

its probably the 6800H since thats all it is on the website

could it be the cable?

[fiery solstice]

not sure

how do i know for sure

thats why i came asking here

[rigid fjord]

vega igpu basically, and you may need to deal with the osd on the monitor instead

something like an overdrive setting for it to be recognised

[cosmic marsh]

check the amd control panel

maybe it lets you change it there

[rigid fjord]

it has no control panel

adrenalin is the software for amd gpu's

[frigid blade]

theres a windows app where you can set more resolutions and refresh rates, i forgot what its called

[fiery solstice]

amd software: adrenalin edition??

[frigid blade]

not what im talking about

[rigid fjord]

multiple apps for this, it can be done within adrenalin also as a custom res, but people are completely ignoring the monitor itself

[fiery solstice]

tried that before didnt work

[frigid blade]

can it be the cable?

[rigid fjord]

if you set a custom res and refresh rate in this it can try to force it but may cause issues

[rigid fjord]

totally can be

[fiery solstice]

i tried doing that it didnt let me

[frigid blade]

What’s your monitor model

[fiery solstice]

samsung syncMaster SA950

[rigid fjord]

it clearly does but you need to know the correct settings for it

[fiery solstice]

when i only changed the refresh rate it said something about the pc not allowing it

[frigid blade]

Ok so it is 120Hz

[rigid fjord]

dvi -d connector, which can definitely do 120hz on

it also does DP

[wild magnet]

yo, wassup. honestly, seeing u guys struggle with custom resolutions and drivers in 2026 is crazy. 💀

if ur tech needs this much "forcing" and "fixing", maybe the hardware isn't the problem, but the bloated setup. windows for games, mint for everything else. works out of the box without 20 pages of tech support. hehe

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/random-get-away-leave-me-alone-get-outta-here-gif-17872308

[fiery solstice]

the geekom is connected via hdmi cuz i have 2 pcs and my mac is using the dvi

[deep musk]

This is 100% a fucking cringe ai response

[rigid fjord]

so you're doing hdmi to dp ?

[fiery solstice]

for the mac ues

for the geekom hdmi to hdmi

[deep musk]

You cannot be humain and come up with such a fucking weird response

[rigid fjord]

you just said you're doing dvi for the mac

[cosmic marsh]

it reinstalls itself?

[fiery solstice]

does dp mean something else? i thought it means dvi port