tech-chat-1

[flat cliff]

Turning an old raspberry pi, a slim keyboard, a portable monitor and a large battery bank that can give me I think a few hours of battery into a laptop with my 3D printer.

100% of the modeling is gonna be rectangular and flat corners and 90 degree angles besides maybe where the two halves connect because my monitor is the exact width of my build plate.

Is this an easy cad project and if it is what cad software do I use what's a good start point and how much time would it take to model?

[empty quartz]

Easy? Depends on your skill level

Make sure the slim keyboard has a built in trackpad so you have a “mouse”

[flat cliff]

I've opened blender and I have messed around but it will take a a good sec to cut a round hole in a square block.

[empty quartz]

Use tinkercad if your a beginner

Its what i use, blender is a pain in the ass

[flat cliff]

It doesn't but I might buy one that does. I'm trying to build our from scraps. Other then the battery I don't use the rest of it.

[empty quartz]

(Im saying this as someone who learned how to use blender out of boredom)

[flat cliff]

But I know I wanna learn. Like part if me doesn't want to learn a software that will cap me. Like if I learn it for real it can't be tinkercad so part of me doesn't even want to start there.

[empty quartz]

30 hours still wasnt enough to learn blender tbh

[flat cliff]

Out of boredom dam

[empty quartz]

Partially boredom anyways

It was for a project

[flat cliff]

I know you gotta add another zero to fully start to learn like for day to day but still..

[empty quartz]

Took me 4 hours to learn the basics of the physics engine

[flat cliff]

If I do use tinker cad assume I've never uses cad before in my life and I'm what's cad (I'm not that bad but let's do worst case) how much it gonna take to measure out and get printed test parts?

[flat cliff]

That's not bad?

[empty quartz]

C.A.D
Cardboard
Aided
Design

[flat cliff]

Idk I know tinker cad can work for this and part of me wants to cut corners but part of me wants to pick a learn for life end game software and just start with that you know?

[empty quartz]

Tinkercad is actually really good for a free web based app

[flat cliff]

I know that was just saying.

[flat cliff]

For web based my PC can very run real blender it has 32gb of ram and a 13th gen (I think) i7 and a 4060 8gb.

That's just my laptop.

But idk before I decide if I'm cutting corners how much it gonna take to cad out test parts on tinker cad?

[empty quartz]

With 32gb of ram, and a 14 core cpu, my system still had trouble with physics baking lmao

[flat cliff]

If it gonna be quick quick maybe I wait on starring blender?

[flat cliff]

OK so my desktop has 64gb and a 9070xt and a 7700x.

I got the ram RIGHT before the price hikes

But again assuming I just use tinker cad how much time is this project gonna take? Is it a get to printing test prints in a weekend?

[rigid fjord]

totally true for woodwork, fabrication and fibreglassing

[flat cliff]

Is this a get done in a weekend or do I wait before starting? Gonna be busy next week for sure.

[stark flicker]

Blender isn't made for cad, use a cad software to make cad stuff

[flat cliff]

My end game is I know some software for minor cad and can make real models.

[stark flicker]

Well blender isn't made for cad, it's not a cad software

It's a modeling software for stuff that are made to stay in the digital world, like animations, game assets or whatever

[flat cliff]

Isn't modeling technically cad?

[stark flicker]

Nope

I knew a bit of blender, I've tried making some stuff to 3D print, but real useful stuff

It's basically unusable for that

[flat cliff]

Computer aided design sounds like on a technically...level bender counts and I've used it to do real STL file edits before.

[stark flicker]

It's OK if you want to print a w40k figurine or whatever, but not for anything a bit close to some engineering

[stark flicker]

You can look it up you'll see

[grizzled frost]

CAD is a specific piece of software

[stark flicker]

If you want to do cad stuff blender isn't the software to use

Fusion360, onshape, freecad are

[flat cliff]

If I learn cad and idk if I will that would be 70% why I did.

[stark flicker]

For w40k you don't do any cad

It's modeling/sculpting

And yeah blender is nice for that, but that's not cad

To make it simple :
Something artistic : blender
Something engineered : cad

[flat cliff]

All I'm gonna say is I've heard it called cad. Not that its gonna be war hammer 40k specifically but I wanna mostly learn for modeling (if I learn at all) with a slight OK I can make rectangular shapes and what not to do this project that I'm trying to do now.

I would think there is a software that can somewhat do both?

[stark flicker]

Yeah well modeling isn't cad it is how it is

And no modeling software are not cad software using one for the other and vice versa is super annoying

Blender is already uber insane because even in the world of modeling before we had many different software for each type of task, like texturing, modeling, animations etc etc
But blender "blends" them all

But blender doesn't do cad well, even if you are proficient with it it's just better to use any cad software

[ionic peak]

I want answers why my half broken gpu sits on 55⁰ max on workload with only 2 fans

[stone gazelle]

should i re-enable my iGPU for use in like handbrake and such while my dGPU and CPU do other stuff?

[stark flicker]

Well what's the gpu, what's the power output and % use?

[ionic peak]

A 1070 with 8 pin and between 55% and 99%

[empty quartz]

What card is that?

Havent seen a gpu with a cooler like that in ages

[ionic peak]

Inno 3d ichill 4x 1070

[ionic peak]

3090 has on and 3080

[ionic peak]

Looks cool

It is cool

And keeps being cool

[flat cliff]

But back to my original question if I wanna just use tinker cad and cad out some basic rectangular shapes and prototype this project its all rectangular (I think) anyways how long is it gonna take?

[frozen bay]

Guys

anyone know how to force oneui 8.0 for unlock bootloader?

[stark flicker]

I don't know the project but few hours not that much

[frozen bay]

cuz i want try to install magisk at s25u

[ionic peak]

And is it ok with half of the fans?

[lavish needle]

When can I buy entire PCs for reasonable price? I have PS5 and it's really good but I want the option of playing with smarter players who don't have a peanut size brain

[stark flicker]

Well if you don't go above 55°c it's OK, maybe it's even why it doesn't start the others idk

[flat cliff]

I just need a flat panel with bezels to slide the monitor in from the top, a thin strip to snap in or screw in to hold the monitor in place. Another flat panel to cover the raspberry pi and battery with one hole for passing in cables (shoot they probably don't make 3in cables or something stupidly short maybe I stuff a 1 foot somewhere so solder my own? I need a really really short display cable?) And some way to attach the keyboard to this and fold closed.

I'm thinking only 6-8 parts less I want sides to better cover where the raspberry pi goes.

I know how it would all work besides attaching the keyboard so what do I do for that? If I just wanted to make this a monitor computer and keyboard separately (I don't wanna) it be 6 parts including the sides for the back and it would only be 90 degree angles and cuts 100%.

Just realized I do gotta do the keyboard attach and I don't yet have good idea for that.

Its only this many parts because my build plate is 3 inches off of making the frame one part.

[modest flame]

Would this be a trustworthy buy?

Claims to be OEM but they always could just be lying

has good reviews though

and this matches my PSU

[flat cliff]

The second you buy a cable not from the OEM you risk plugging it in and frying the components. If its not OEM and they lie and the pin out is different? Extension cables just have all pins live and make the real cable send the power on the right lines to avoid this.

Its the number one way to fry components. What do you need a new cable for? Can you not just ask thermaltake support? Also what PSU thermaltake PSUs are usually not great quality.

[empty quartz]

I love copying 64gb files </3

I need to get myself a faster enclosure

[stark flicker]

Well just start trying to make it you'll see how it goes and iterate on that

[vast otter]

This is why I like technology.

https://youtu.be/q84ddbwSzXM?si=y2UAJ2rQHPeijjUZ

[dawn zephyr]

Can someone help me I made a post

[ivory mountain]

hey bub

[empty quartz]

Have patience

[unreal shoal]

Sad, gpu died on me again and than now this application wont close out

[craggy cove]

my gpu after a bad undervolt

[flat cliff]

I can for the top for the bottom I don't have ideas yet so maybe it will come to me maybe it won't but I don't know that something will come to me on connecting the top and the bottom so I'll need help on ideas for that?

[modest flame]

I've decided to just go ahead and change out the PSU for future proofing and safety reasons

I have a Toughpower GF A3 1050W and I'm just gonna change it for a Corsair RM1000e

I was able to snag a new one for around $130

[rigid fjord]

doing it for safety is fine, but also, futureproofing doesn't exist

[modest flame]

well yeah but saying it makes me feel better LMAO

[rigid fjord]

also would have gone for an rm1000x instead of an rm1000e

[modest flame]

i wanted the ATX 3.1

[rigid fjord]

which you can get on an rm1000x tbh, though atx 2.0 is still fine

[modest flame]

oh wait the x is 3.1

is the difference between the rm1000e and rm1000x going to be noticable

[unreal shoal]

Finally seemed to find the sweet spot for this gpu, 130w max out of 200 and bit of a underclock but the gpu is still flickering on and off some times

[modest flame]

like what am i sacrificing for the lower price?

[stark flicker]

Well I'm sorry but it really isn't really comprehensible and yeah ideas will come by themselves

Also I hope you have a 3d printer

[rigid fjord]

mildly noticable, technically the components are better in an RMx

[unreal shoal]

Does anyone know why this happens? Disable the object in the benchmark program, gpu all of a sudden hits 300 fps but than starts whining and than enable, 80-90 fps but than the coil whine becomes alot quieter

[rose stream]

And don't live in Washington, NY, or Cali in terms of 3d printer ownership. Lol.

[modest flame]

in terms of actual PC usage though what would i notice besides noise

(extra noise doesn't bother me)

[rigid fjord]

well the fan is controllable, connectors will be practically the same, and depending on the case you have, there's the shift version of the psu which can allow for better cable management as the connectors go through the side and not the rear of the psu

[modest flame]

I have an NZXT H9 Flow 2025

with the dual chamber

[fringe prairie]

c1000 nzxt

[modest flame]

PSU is mounted behind the mobo

[rigid fjord]

so you can take advantage of the shift more so then

[fringe prairie]

there’s also a1250gs for $119

[modest flame]

is it more just quality of life features or is getting the rm1000e over the x a safety risk

id go for the nzxt one, but id have to ship it

the rm1000e i can pick up tomorrow

[nova solstice]

Where do I find power supplies like this one:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BWNLSKNR/
But in decent quality. I need one that lasts under load. It's for a mini PC. 12v@5A/60W. Any tips on what I should get?

[ionic peak]

They 2 try it but at some speed they spinn sll

[tired thunder]

I have a question. I’m looking at different ways to get better audio so I could hear footsteps better and other audio to use while playing games. Does anybody have any recommendations?

[unreal shoal]

Coil whine?

[ionic peak]

Coil cry?

[steel umbra]

probably, could be also bad bearings

try tuning your fans i you can find the rpm range where the bearings make that noise

unless it’s coil whine

[median warren]

Your dignity

[limpid ivy]

Since you mentioned that I should try that with my gpu

One of the fan bearings is making noise now

[steel umbra]

rip

[limpid ivy]

Probably a temporary band aid until I pull my system out from the shelf

But as all temporary solutions go....it's gonna be permanent

ayo I have fan control on my psu

[rigid fjord]

got pawnio loaded up for fan control there?

[limpid ivy]

yep

[rigid fjord]

sweet

[limpid ivy]

Anything to not have to go into the bios or install msi stupid msi center

[jaunty apex]

What do we think about this website? I was wanting to buy this board but honestly seems sketch https://www.activesportsgearshop.com/product/arbor-street-daisy-complete-skateboard-8-5/

[quasi moat]

When you see it @south arrow

[wispy mulch]

hi iam think about buying a new monitor this one ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ5A QHD does anyone knows if its good and if i should buy it

[quasi moat]

Spot the jump scare

[hexed tapir]

Seems like an average ips display

[strange atlas]

everytime i use my ssd hard (like donwloading something )i hear burn smell why could that cause that

[south arrow]

Gonna be noice

[jaunty apex]

you hear burn smell?

Id see a doctor about that

[strange atlas]

😢

i smell something burning*

[wispy mulch]

so is it good or not

[hexed tapir]

Good I guess

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dvkqqs/acer-predator-x27u-z1bmiiprx-265-2560-x-1440-280-hz-monitor-umgxxaa103 I would save up for qd OLED as a qd OLED user

[snow mauve]

haigais

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GKG2FT/ktc-m27t6-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-m27t6 or $270 mini led if $380 is too much for OLED

[wispy mulch]

ok but i only have like 220€ and i need a new monitor because my main monitor keeps turning on and off

[ivory mountain]

why do u have a fucking stethoscope in your car

[median warren]

Bro, clean

[buoyant thunder]

Can someone reality check me rn?

Is this actually just like 32gb of PC ddr5 for $150?

This is insane deal right?

[kindred halo]

I am pretty sure it is, lemme check PCPP

[kindred halo]

Also scan the QR, check what CL

Hi Poignée :3

[deep musk]

not really, pretty sure it's still higher than before the crisis

[deep musk]

hewowowowowowowowo

[kindred halo]

No pre-crisis this'd be a tad less than $100 I think

Since for $150 you could get good 32GB kits

Hell, corsair kits were $100

[deep musk]

ohh, wait, that's ddr5, woups

[kindred halo]

Haiiiaiaiiaiai x333

[hexed tapir]

What European country are yeee in

[kindred halo]

Yepppps
DDR4 Pre-crisis was ~$30-40 for 16GB

[wispy mulch]

Germany

[buoyant thunder]

Fkkk, they don’t have

[kindred halo]

Aw

[buoyant thunder]

Screw bestbuy

[kindred halo]

https://tenor.com/view/totr-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-totr-gif-17298088886638545299

[deep musk]

yesh, I paid 50 CAD for 32 gb 3200

[kindred halo]

Ooooooh

I was going to buy a 2x8 3200 kit of ADATA Spectrix RAM for $50 US some time ago

It had a silly liquid cooled Heatsink!!!

[deep musk]

have cross checked that the monitor was the issue? (by using another monitor to make sure)

[deep musk]

ohhhh coolio

[wispy mulch]

yeah i did

[hexed tapir]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/kJP8TW/aoc-q27g3xmn-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-q27g3xmn not €247?

[deep musk]

goody

[kindred halo]

Now my RAM options are just getting SODIMM
LOL

Also yeah ceasefire has already been violated

[quasi moat]

That’s what I do

[kindred halo]

Sooo

[deep musk]

[kindred halo]

Waiting for next month's salary to dictate what I buy

Legion 5, or M715?

[hexed tapir]

Free drugs

[ivory mountain]

that makes more sense

[kindred halo]

Dirty car

[wispy mulch]

its still to expensiv i only have 220€

[deep musk]

do you like sterilize it?

[deep musk]

(save up)

[quasi moat]

You should see the back of the ambulance

[kindred halo]

There're some decent 1440p monitors for like round €200

[deep musk]

what's the m175?

[kindred halo]

Atleast here, which means it's probably the same price or cheaper out there

ASUS TuF panel, lemme see which

[kindred halo]

M715, the Lenovo Tiny

2400GE, 32GB, 1TB SATA + 256GB NVMe

[deep musk]

ohh yesh, forgor

[kindred halo]

$250

[hexed tapir]

Damn I would really try to get that €247 monitor I sent mini led is a huge jump over regular led displays

[kindred halo]

Look for this

asus tuf gaming vg27aql5a

[wispy mulch]

i want to buy this one is it good ? https://amzn.eu/d/0gDnXmse

[wispy mulch]

ok yeah but i realy only have 220€

[kindred halo]

One second

[round marsh]

is 90$ good for 32 gb ram 3200 mhz (its used)

[kindred halo]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-vg27aq

Seemingly blurry at any refresh rate

[blissful sonnet]

Are you sure about that

[deep musk]

no, but if you absolutely need it, it's not that bad for crisis price

[kindred halo]

Do you need 16GB

[round marsh]

i dont really need it, i have 16 gb ram atm

[hexed tapir]

No way to make money,sell things you don't need or ask your parents for €30?

[kindred halo]

Then no need to upgrade

[cloud sparrow]

Watching a monitor unboxed video, and I have no clue what this is
I know what response time is, but ghosting rate?
And grey to grey

[craggy cove]

google.com "monitor ghosting"

[wispy mulch]

i got 250€ now so should i buy that one or do you think there is a better one for 250€

[snow mauve]

I miss having a micro center near me 🙁

always had great deals on stuff like decent monitors, etc

[drifting fern]

😭

they cracked optimisation

[naive swan]

i don’t think anyone is gonna get fired over this but someone is definitely gonna get a long conversation over there

also hi i just joined this discord

[brave brook]

when people say pre-crisis, it was actually between crises 😄

2014 - expensive cause new.
2016 - low price
2018 - most expensive DDR4 ever
2024 - absolute low
2025/2026 - expensive, but still only half as expensive as in 2018

[craggy cove]

sorta maybe related but kill all the people who said "wait for 50 series super"

[snow mauve]

there was an issuer earlier, i don't remember if it was hard disk or memory, but a tsunami cut out a lot of manufacturing and was a temporary pricing issue

Indonesia right?

[brave brook]

i had a good laugh reading few months old "why are you buying 2x5070 Ti for LLM, just get a 5090" posts now in 2026. 2x 5070 Ti is 2200 euros, 1x 5090 is 3800 euros. Not even in same ballpark anymore

only issue with 2x 5070 Ti setup is space used

[haughty compass]

Super random but I found a ps4 slim with a camo controller at the thrift store for $69 thing is idk if it works or not... Should I bite the bullet and buy it?

[craggy cove]

but the manufacturer suggested 2000 dollars!

[craggy cove]

only if it has a good software version

[brave brook]

i mean the case is full LOL #tech-chat-1 message )

[craggy cove]

usually they let you test electronics, no?

[haughty compass]

No

Not this one. They usually bag electronics and have them at the counter as untested

And ur not allowed to open the bags. Like I got a psp from here before

[craggy cove]

using another gpu as a sag protector >>>

[craggy cove]

damn thats a trash price then

ok tbh idk ps4 prices much, tried to buy a ps4 pro for 100€ once but it was sold, and thats as far as my experience goes

but that seems way too much for a non pro ps4 thats untested, with no refunds i assume

[mint umbra]

why would ppl buy headphones when iems 10x cheaper

[haughty compass]

People don't like in ears

[craggy cove]

(me)

[mint umbra]

I think inears are more comfortable

[craggy cove]

im okay with in ears on my phone but not on my pc

[haughty compass]

Like for the gym I wouldn't wear iems cus they would slip and fall out if I tried, so I wear overheads

[craggy cove]

idk why

[brave brook]

i can literally hear my breathing when i use inears

[rose stream]

I'm one of those people with logical reasons for it.

[mint umbra]

top of my head hurts wearing headphones too long

[haughty compass]

Both sides are valid

[mint umbra]

headphones uncomfortable

[craggy cove]

idk get better headphones

my m40x does that because its too small for me

[mint umbra]

I had good headphones

[craggy cove]

which

[mint umbra]

I have hd560s and fiio ft1

[rose stream]

Oh, I had m30x a long while ago. There were good while they lasted.

[brave brook]

even if some are uncomfortable, i prefer that over hearing my breathing so loud as i can hear them with in-ears

[mint umbra]

brother how loud are you breathing where thats eve an issue

[craggy cove]

yeah i found these for 15€, only reason why im not buying bigger ones

[mint umbra]

how is it any diff that breathing normally when not wearing anything lol

[brave brook]

the isolation inears do are causing that. I don't breath loud, inears cause me to hear them more prominently

[mint umbra]

Ive never had this issue

first time ive even heard of this complaint

[craggy cove]

google it

[brave brook]

i even had an issue where closed headphones caused me to have trouble breathing - the pressure change or whatever causes it

[craggy cove]

but hmm yeah those are good cans

[rose stream]

Then I got M420 Studios and those were great, up until the contacts in the (propriety) plug became too loose.

[mint umbra]

I dont use them anymore

[rose stream]

Now, I'm on HD 400 Pros.

[mint umbra]

I just use like 50 dollar iems that sound better

[mint oak]

Wanna sell my laptop, i5 12 gen P, 1.5 tb SSD ( 512+1tb both ddr4), 16gb ram and 2050 4gb vram, in just 755 dollar, bargaining available
Shipping included and everything

[craggy cove]

hifiman and their open back magnetic stuff sounds great but their qc record is spotty

[mint umbra]

I just use Simgot EW300

[craggy cove]

i have jq 4u pro (yeah idk what they are either, but theyre reviewed okay from what i found) and tbh i dont really hear an "improvement" from my headphones

[mint umbra]

sound better and more comfotable

headphones cause discomforton top of head

[brave brook]

i usually have to enable some base "white noise" sound, that usually makes it less prominent. I suspect the isolation/noise cancelling of most inears is too good for my body and that makes them annoying for me

[brave brook]

sounds like you are making them too tight ?

[craggy cove]

the audiophile juice is just not for me ig, i do not really hear the difference between headphones and iems

except soundstage ofc

[mint umbra]

not really its just the weight of the headphones thats causing it

as usually have headphones on quite loose

[rose stream]

And also after having tested out Shox by owning a pair of OpenMoves, I might just not touch earbuds, IEMs, or really anything that goes into my ears ever again.
I'm bound to get another bc headset that is better than it or similar. Probably might try OpenDots next.

[frigid blade]

Gonna install Windows on my RPi4B soon

Waiting for the ISO to write to the SD

[deep musk]

Epilepsy warning the hell??

[restive plinth]

Wow will it run

[frigid blade]

It should, my issue is that I don’t have any way to get display out rn, don’t have the cable

I had to figure out an autounattend.xml that can install headless and enable RDP

[restive plinth]

Good luck getting it to work

[formal sonnet]

Have you posted the laptop for sale on places like Craigslist, eBay, or whatever local-to-you used services exist? That's where I would start.

[mint oak]

you can take 55 dollars, please list for me

[tired bear]

lol

[mint oak]

Because idk how to properly do it

[formal sonnet]

huh? I don't provide such services... Look at how other laptops have been listed online, then do the same with your laptop.

[wispy thunder]

just... yk... look at other listings and plagerize it?

[median warren]

Nexgen will help you for free

Won't you nexgen?

[deep musk]

"how to make a fb marketplace, ebay, craigslist, etc" on google.com

[mint oak]

I am feeling so tired

I have to upload pics from back and front

For that I have to click pics first, and that bag also, acer predator bag

I am selling mouse also, it's Hp mouse

So that also included

[median warren]

Now type this into the description

Or do it tomorrow if you feel too tired right now

[formal sonnet]

Yep, you're getting it. Selling items takes some amount of effort. The number of listings in my local area with a single photo or a bunch of poor quality photos is far too high. And then people wonder why things don't sell. 🤣 Anywho, take some well-lit, in-focus photos showing all angles of the laptop, along with the accessories.

[mint oak]

I am really telling I will give that person 55$ who sell for me

[tired bear]

minimal effort would be go to a pawnshop and sell it there

[snow mauve]

just realize a pawnshop likely gets a clueless guy who will loo up stuff on ebay and completely lowball you

[formal sonnet]

Even if I offered "used good brokerage services" I would have to charge $150 CAD/hr to make it worth my while. Anywho, if you don't want to take the time to list it yourself, take it to a pawn shop.

[median warren]

Dude for that amount of money I'll write the description and title for you

But don't

[mint oak]

Ok then add 755+ your fees and try

[median warren]

Keep the money and just spend 15 minutes

[snow mauve]

i'll go get you a beer as well

[median warren]

Thank you man

[mint oak]

Yeah it make sense

[median warren]

You're giving 55 dollars to someone for max 20 minutes of work

[mint oak]

Hwo many chances that I will able to sell it ?

[median warren]

It will sell

[mint oak]

I was doing foolness, thanks

[median warren]

Okay good

[snow mauve]

😄

[median warren]

You had me concerned

[mint oak]

So ebay, pawnshop and ??

[median warren]

Facebook marketplace

[mint oak]

Ok

[formal sonnet]

Craigslist, if available in your area. The more places you list it, the more people see it, increasing the chances someone will buy.

[median warren]

But tbh you can copy and paste the description and title

So you won't need to rewrite it 4 times

[mossy sparrow]

What’s a good thing to de bloat windows with?

[deep musk]

If I remember correctly, windows 11 Iot ltsc, comes debloated (no ai stuff, etc)

[median warren]

Chris Titus tool, winaero tweaker

[mint oak]

Chris titus utility

Select Standard

[mint oak]

Yeah obviously 😄

[thick birch]

i play alot of siege and i was thinking about treating myself to a good headphones but i don’t know much. does anyone have any good suggestions? budget is £200. thank you!

[mint oak]

I am going to build pc after selling this laptop

[median warren]

You'd probably be better off getting a separate headphone and mic

The best headphones with the best audio quality are often ones without a mic attached

[thick birch]

i already have a good mic so just need a good pair of headphones

[median warren]

Oh right

Probably #audio-tech

They're big nerds about audio

[thick birch]

i never really thought headset and was the mic aswell and headphones were just the headphones

[median warren]

Ye ye

[thick birch]

until this very moment

[median warren]

The more you know

[formal sonnet]

Nothing. Install Windows normally, then simply remove the apps you do not wish to use and adjust things in the Settings app.

You're welcome to use whatever you feel is necessary, however, if you break it in doing so, you must keep both pieces.

[median warren]

Revo uninstaller is a great app to help you remove things

Even let's you uninstall things like the xbox app

[mossy sparrow]

Okay, thanks guys

[formal sonnet]

The main problem with "debloat" scripts (aside from the glaring security risks associated with running someone else's script on your computer) is that many people don't keep track of what these scripts are changing. This leads to questions like "help, my PC won't launch the Xbox Games App so I can't run any of my Game Pass games!" when things eventually break, after which we start asking questions, you reveal that you debloated Windows but don't remember the settings used, leaving our only suggestion to be "reinstall Windows."

I'm not saying don't remove OS features / apps you don't use... but if you do so without understanding what you're doing, don't be surprised when your Windows breaks in 1-18 business months.

[mossy sparrow]

Yeah I do prefer going it manually so I know what I’ve done, never heard of REVO uninstaller though, will check it out

[latent gull]

my favorite was "i cant find control panel anymore" cause the control panel got yeeted for some reason :P

[mossy sparrow]

Tbf I heard it’s not worth it uninstalling windows apps because they just get reinstalled with updates anyway

[formal sonnet]

REVO Uninstaller is a decently okay application, however, I only recommend running it for stubborn applications whose normal uninstallers don't work.

[mossy sparrow]

Why?

[formal sonnet]

Mine have never re-installed themselves... so I really don't know what people are doing to their systems. I've always just right-click -> Uninstalled modern Windows apps.

[rigid fjord]

especially as revo also removes any registry entries of the programs

[mossy sparrow]

What does that mean?

[rigid fjord]

did i tell you about the soundcard i got?

[latent gull]

huh, if thats the case i might need to remember this tool for the future. I usualy do windows uninstall troubleshooter tool but you have to go into the registry to get the app ID manually for that

[rigid fjord]

normally when you uninstall programs, there are entries in your system's registry that are still left there, revo can also remove these

[mossy sparrow]

Ahh, okay

[formal sonnet]

Many programs leave traces of themselves behind because their software developers are too incompetent to provide end users with the option to fully cleanse their PC of the program. (Yes, I will die on this hill; I expect an uninstaller to let me choose to remove EVERYTHING associated with the program, including any identifiers used to indicate I had a free trial of the program.)
Anywho... REVO Uninstaller attempts to find these leftover items and lets you remove them. The problem with this is when REVO thinks files or registry keys belong to the program you're trying to uninstall when they don't belong to that program at all. It's entirely up to you to decide if it's safe to remove these items.

[rigid fjord]

yeah, when you use it to uninstall stuff it will do an extra scan for any registry enteries left by the programs, it removes those cleanly from it

[mossy sparrow]

Okay.

[latent gull]

apparently theyre fucking depricating this for Win11 (because of course they are its microsoft and why would they leave any good tool untouched) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/fix-problems-that-block-programs-from-being-installed-or-removed-cca7d1b6-65a9-3d98-426b-e9f927e1eb4d#id0ebf=windows_10

[wispy mulch]

Hi wich Monitor should i buy for max 250€

[latent gull]

this tool removes registry entries for programs that it can detect, but it has trouble detecting the program a lot of times, so you have to go get the app id manually to point it to the program

[rigid fjord]

this has given me a much improved audio quality on my system @formal sonnet

[latent gull]

sound blaster is still a thing?

[sleek ibex]

[restive plinth]

Don't
You'll end up with more problems if you don't exactly know what you are doing

[rigid fjord]

creative labs is, and they still produce this for use with win 7/10/11

[sleek ibex]

Fuck Creative Labs for killing Media Vision/Aureal

[formal sonnet]

Nice. I haven't bothered to dabble into advanced audio products yet. I likely won't until I have space in my own place, and even then, I'm far too invested into the simplicity of the Sonos ecosystem, even with all of its quirks and arbitrarily high cost. (I'd love an open source solution, but I'm not prepared to program my own ESP32 hardware and if it costs as much as Sonos... I'll just use Sonos.)

[sleek ibex]

[mossy sparrow]

I mean I have an idea on what to uninstall and what not to, it just confuses me when it gets to settings etc

[latent gull]

nice, and it looks like theres a cheaper version without the optical ports

[rigid fjord]

£80 if i got it new, but paid £30 on ebay for it

[restive plinth]

Is this the troubleshooting thing? Has that ever worked properly to fix things?

[restive plinth]

Is your system working smoothly?

[mossy sparrow]

Building a new system soon, waiting for that

[latent gull]

yeah i used it all the time when i was doing MSP work, any time i needed to fully uninstall a borked program or something that got corrupted

[formal sonnet]

Windows 11 Settings you mean? You just go through the settings, toggling on/off things you want. If a setting doesn't make sense, you Google it to understand what it does. If it still doesn't make sense, then you can hop in here and ask about it.

[rigid fjord]

for simple things it works, but when it comes to corruptions, eh fuck no

[mossy sparrow]

Yeah but there are so many setting routes you can go down, it would take AGES.

[sleek ibex]

I will die on that hill

[restive plinth]

If it runs smoothly then just ignore. You might want to check the privacy settings and customisation options. Everything else, you can ignore.

What's the reason you want to "debloat" it?

[formal sonnet]

It took me about 15 minutes after installing Windows 11... granted, I've been using Windows since the days of Windows 3.1 so I'm sure that makes it easier.

[rigid fjord]

cheap to get as it is @sleek ibex

[formal sonnet]

Also, this. So many people think they need to debloat or change things because of something someone else said. Just because someone says it needs to be done does not mean you need to do it.

[restive plinth]

Does the troubleshooter do that?

[mossy sparrow]

I just keep seeing online that windows on itself uses tons of ram etc

[mossy sparrow]

Yeah that

[formal sonnet]

Then don't bother... install Windows, customize the settings how you like, and remove apps you won't use. Done. Enjoy Windows.

[mossy sparrow]

Okay

[latent gull]

worked for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy sparrow]

Thank you

[restive plinth]

Not at all. Unused ram is wasted ram. Windows will free the ram automatically when you need more of that.

I have a 16GB ram laptop and many games run with such great fps.. but my ram usage with some apps open is like 8 to 10. When I open any game, the ram is automatically reallocated to prioritise the game.

[rigid fjord]

using google you can learn command lines that you can use to improve your system's performance

[latent gull]

honestly windows 11 on a local account with old context menu is perfectly fine

[wispy mulch]

hi wich monitor should i get for max 250€?

[restive plinth]

I'm not sure the troubleshooter did that. It would just suggest windows compatibility mode most of the time and that wouldn't solve anything. It doesn't delete any registries iirc

[mossy sparrow]

Okay thank you all, and what browser do you all use? Is it just down to preference?

[formal sonnet]

The things you're reading online should actually say "Task Manager shows lots of RAM being used... here's why that's not a bad thing."

To be fair, I blame Windows / Task Manager for this - they just show a high-level overview of what's used... not HOW it's being used, or that it's mostly prefetch caching.

[latent gull]

its not the built in windows troubleshooter, its a microsoft tool called the uninstall troubleshooter

[restive plinth]

Preference
I use chrome and edge

[rigid fjord]

it only frees up ram to pagefile.sys, and this should be set up in a way to run alongside the physical ram, with it starting at 1gb (1024GiB) for minimum and then half to double your ram for maximum

[restive plinth]

Ahh okay
First time hearing about that

[latent gull]

the best way to use the page file is to let windows handle the page file

[mossy sparrow]

Okay

[formal sonnet]

Oh, righto, you just reminded me to set this on my laptop. 😄 It's been set this way on my desktop for years, but I never configured this when I setup my laptop.

[restive plinth]

It's best to suggest someone to ignore it as long as the system works fine and is giving them good performance. Otherwise we're gonna get a lot more tech help questions about borked up windows installations because someone suggested something and they did something in the terminal

[rigid fjord]

powershell "Disable-MMAgent -MemoryCompression"
wmic computersystem where name="%computername%" set AutomaticManagedPagefile=False
wmic pagefileset where name="C:\\pagefile.sys" set InitialSize=1024,MaximumSize=32768
powershell "Get-NetAdapter -IncludeHidden | Set-NetIPInterface -WeakHostSend Enabled -WeakHostReceive Enabled -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue"
netsh winsock set autotuning on
bcdedit /set disableelamdrivers Yes

example of said command to do it in powershell for setting your virtual ram aka pagefile.sys @restive plinth

[rigid fjord]

use the command i sent and change out the max to the size you want

[restive plinth]

Thanks. I'm still just gonna let windows handle it because everything is working fine

[formal sonnet]

Nah, I just do it through the GUI. Win+R, type "sysdm.cpl", Advanced (tab) -> Performance -> Settings -> Advanced (tab) -> Virtual Memory -> Change. Make appropriate changes, voila - done.

[rigid fjord]

windows can be a pain at times when it automatically manages it

[formal sonnet]

(Not against scripts; I'm just faster on a keyboard for some settings changes since I've been doing it this way for over 20 years.)

That's one thing I dearly miss about all the old Windows 95-era settings screens. It's so much faster to navigate through them with a keyboard using TAB and SHIFT+TAB, the arrow keys, and ENTER / ESC than the Windows 11 Settings app is.

[latent gull]

windows 11 setting app changed a lot of things that had no need to be changed :(

[rigid fjord]

fair enough, i used to do it the way you did, though win key + pau brk = system info hotkey combo

[restive plinth]

This is why I think they need to keep control panel as it is, while also updating the new settings app. For users who are experienced with the legacy stuff, let the control panel remain. Settings is to keep things simple

[formal sonnet]

I agree, but... on the other hand, this means double the amount of work for the dev team, and it greatly increases the risk that the Settings app and Control panel style settings end up doing wildly different things, to the point of breaking Windows.

My biggest gripe when Windows 8 was released was the fact that Microsoft, a multi-national company whose software runs most of the business world, thought it was completely okay to say "oh, yeah, we'll eventually move all the Control Panel settings into the modern Settings app."

[rigid fjord]

i also know the command to have the help/troubleshooting when pressing 'f8' before windows loading screen appears to go from the current look to the old classic look

goes from this

to this

[formal sonnet]

Okay, good to know you'll move everything to the Settings app. WHEN THOUGH? It's FOURTEEN YEARS LATER, and we're still waiting...

[restive plinth]

The settings app was the last thing on everyone's minds when windows 8 released

[formal sonnet]

True that. I remember being stoked for the era of modern, touch based PC's everywhere... only to be sorely let down by Microsoft not requiring touch or that developers conform to any sort of UI/UX design standard, which in turn completely ruined the full screen app-based experience they were hoping for. I also really wanted Win Mobile to become the 3rd competitor to Android and iOS, but they botched that, too. 🙁

[restive plinth]

Compatibility issues will mean the control panel will continue to exist. Settings does most of the work anyways now

[restive plinth]

Go to file explorer. Press the arrow next to this pc and select control panel. Click on it again and select this pc. Voila windows 10 file explorer.

[restive plinth]

Idk if it still works

[latent gull]

i legitamitely cannot find the paging file settings now. Its supposed to be under system > advanced> ? and its just not there?

[latent gull]

yeah thats the window im looking for

how do you get to the window

[rigid fjord]

no, this is not to do with file explorer, this is a bootmenu

[formal sonnet]

#tech-chat-1 message

[restive plinth]

Yeah I was telling how to open the old file explorer. The old stuff still exists for compatibility reasons ig

[rigid fjord]

@latent gull

[latent gull]

okay but i just mean through settings navigation. without running a command, cause no one should have to do that for something that used to be in settings

[latent gull]

again, yes, thank you, i know how to change it, im trying to figure out how to get tot he menu through settings, cause on win10 it was just in settings

[formal sonnet]

Oh yeah that's more difficult. One moment please.

[latent gull]

google says it should be system > advanced > and its just not there

[rigid fjord]

the command doesn't have to be done, but yeah, it makes it easier than having to go through several menu otions

[restive plinth]

It's an obscure setting not used by 99.9% people. Idt it has to be easy to access. These things should be in control panel only imo

[latent gull]

okay, so how do you do it without the command. thats my problem

[rigid fjord]

win 10 or win 11?

[formal sonnet]

Google is likely wrong. Never ever trust Google's AI results. Ever. Always verify.

[latent gull]

but it USED to be, why the fuck would they take it away

[rigid fjord]

win key + pau/brk button for system info

then advanced system settings

advanced tab

[latent gull]

okay, yeah, i see it, i missed it cause i had already checked about, but man, thats dumb, and google is dumb

[restive plinth]

They probably haven't taken it away. It's just not noticeable at first glance, unlike the other commonly used settings like "mouse" or "display"

[rigid fjord]

for win 10 users it be like this

[formal sonnet]

"Mouse settings? What ever do you mean? Why would anyone EVER want to disable mouse acceleration? That's just dumb!"
-- Microsoft in 2030, probably, following in Apple's footsteps.

[rigid fjord]

it gets burried/obscured due to being moved to different locations

[latent gull]

i found 3 different ways to log into a microsoft account and a billings and a subscriptions tab all before i found the setting i was actually looking for.

[restive plinth]

There's the "commonly used settings". But then something that's above that is microsoft's OS level ads

[rigid fjord]

this is a fun small set of commands to use at times @formal sonnet

these also

[gritty marten]

turns out you can fix a lot of fps issues with just a control panel guide

[sharp ivy]

$10CAD from a garage sale

brand new

[deep musk]

Damn, mega worth it

[gritty marten]

got this for 1$ cad

[sharp ivy]

🥓

[deep musk]

What’s the catch?

@sharp ivy what’s your favourite video connector?

(If you have one)

(Mine is dms59)

[sharp ivy]

I've grown to like DVI

I'm not sure though

[deep musk]

Ohh nicey

[deep musk]

(DMs59 is two dvi signal in one connector :3)

[sharp ivy]

ooohOOOH

2X the dvi

2x the fun

[deep musk]

Yehshshsshshshsh

[rigid fjord]

or 1 vga + dvi in a single connector

[sharp ivy]

-Pizza hut or sm

[sharp ivy]

gigadvi

[deep musk]

Yeah (but I don’t like vga so I unconsciously forget it)

[rigid fjord]

dvi is almost what DP came to be as essentially

[sharp ivy]

I don't own a single DP cable :3

[rigid fjord]

at least you've not dealt with ega and cga

[quick stag]

Guys is this a valid response

[sharp ivy]

DB25 video out

[sleek ibex]

I actually have a couple Matrox cards with that connector

[deep musk]

Yeah, some dvi cards natively support hdmi video via a passive adapter

[sleek ibex]

[rigid fjord]

db9

[sharp ivy]

bet y'all don't have a gpu with NVS connector

[deep musk]

I’ve had to deal with my Belgian gf’s scart stuff (god i hate scart)

[rigid fjord]

because DVI can do both analog and digital signal

[woeful phoenix]

Fat fuck

[snow mauve]

remove the r has a whole other meating too 😄

[deep musk]

I might have seen one not sure

[deep musk]

Yeshshshshs

[deep musk]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[snow mauve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bushes-spicer-correction-COYGe9rZvfiaQ

[rigid fjord]

you can convert that to vga pretty easily then convert it out from vga to whatever you want

[deep musk]

(Yes but i have personal issues with the physical connector)

[deep musk]

What’s that connector?

[rigid fjord]

it does diva like vga alot

[deep musk]

Yeah….

[rigid fjord]

isn't that just a renamed dms-59?

[deep musk]

<@&750150305383186585> scam

[deep musk]

everyone, get his ass, he has ram

[fickle ivy]

If I'm running like 40fps will swapping from 768p to 720p make a noticeable difference

[deep musk]

probably not

[tender relic]

Might as well play ps2 at that point

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/fire-tv-stick-hd-sideloading-warning-3658819/ considering its linux based with VEGA OS I am not surprised honestly

[pulsar root]

It’s crazy that a 5060 has better perf than a 2080ti

[frigid blade]

Why

It’s 4 generations old

[pulsar root]

A 5060 is an entry level card whereas a 2080ti was the best card money could buy

[deep musk]

titan rtx enters the chat

[pulsar root]

Well all the streamers had 2080ti

[frigid blade]

Yah 7.5 years ago

It’s like comparing a 7th gen intel cpu to newest gen

[pulsar root]

Yes but a 5060 today is $300 today and 2080ti was $1k at that time

[deep musk]

not really, the cpu's gap is much bigger than the gpus (you are right but it's not the best comparison)

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah that would be 7+ gens worth of CPUS compared to 3 gens worth of GPUS

Would it be a 9 or 10 gen difference on the Intel side now?

GPUs MOVE a whole LOT slower in their gens comapred to CPUS

[deep musk]

even more than 7 gen

[tulip sparrow]

Hence my 9 or 10 gen statement

[deep musk]

ohhh okiii

[formal sonnet]

Not really. It's been the same with Processors for as long as Intel has been using a similar incremental naming scheme. Tis why some modern day i3 processors outperform some olden day i7 processors. Tis why I upgraded from an i7-4790k to an i5-12600k instead of a modern i7 processor.

[tulip sparrow]

For 10 years or so core is all performaned roughly the same for my needs LOL

[pulsar root]

Uh I’ve been conditioned to think i3 is really bad for some reason lol

That’s interesting

[tulip sparrow]

It wasn't until Coffee Lake/ Zen 1 that I FINALLY felt the need to upgrade from my Ivy Bridge based i5 3570k and that was ONLY because of the increase in core counts on mainstream FINALLY

[formal sonnet]

You should maybe... Try not to let other people condition you. Do your own research and formulate your own opinions, both when it comes to tech and literally anything else in life. 👍

[deep musk]

every cpu has a usecase (unless it's a bottom of the barrel chip)

[frigid blade]

Why would you compare generations for completely different things than time

[wispy thunder]

a 3060ti beat the 2080S and was somewhat close of the 2080TI, and that was 5 years ago. You better hope the 5060 would beat the 2080ti.

[tulip sparrow]

I was NOT paying $1k+ for a 6+ core CPU over my i5

[pulsar root]

Oh wow

[wispy thunder]

I went from a Xeon based system (performed around a 3770) to a 7700K just because I got a free CPU at the time.

[tulip sparrow]

and everything was running fine byu itself on my i5 it would only fall fglat when I tried to throw things together at one time hence the increase in core count being needed

[deep musk]

to help people understand better, not a comparing cpu to gpu but showing the same phenomenon

[wispy thunder]

Only upgraded from that 7700K to a Ryzen 7 7700 because Windows was like "oh yeah we aren't gonna work on 7th gen intel"

[tulip sparrow]

Intel basically sat on their lauarals for a decade thanks to zero real compeition from AMD

I went from the i5 3570k to a AMD 3700X

[frigid blade]

Yah but then it’s not applicable because there’s more time to develop a GPU than CPU between generations, so developments between their generations differ, if you give them the same amount of time it is more accurate

[deep musk]

[deep musk]

(I know that's why I said it wasn't the best example)

[wispy thunder]

When this 7700 system dies, I'm probably looking at going Intel again though. I've been thoroughly pissed off by just random instability that I never had with any intel system I've built.

[frigid blade]

The example is fine, it’s just some people don’t understand it

[wispy thunder]

you'd think once you've been doing something for over a decade you'd be decent at it

[tulip sparrow]

I still have the old i5 3570k currently acting as a HTPC and its paired with a 2060 Super that came out of my Ryzen system. Replaced the 970 that was in the i5 system thanks to the low vram amount causing newer games to just straight up crash at times

[wispy thunder]

I'm stuck running DDR5 5600 on my system

because 6000 is unstable for some reason

[tulip sparrow]

the FPS numbers were fine with the 970 still it was just crashing thanks to running out of vram in games so yeah

[wispy thunder]

and a system I built I felt bad because they were stuck on PCIe Gen 3 because Gen 4 just crashes the 4090 that was in it.

[frigid blade]

What FPS do you run at?

[wispy thunder]

I don't game..

[frigid blade]

Most likely the difference between 5600 and 6k isn’t noticeable for lower fps, you mainly notice 1% lows

[tulip sparrow]

I upgraded my 3700x+2060 Super system to the 5800x3d and 3070 Ti and yeah the 3070 Ti needs another upgrade thanks to the 8GB of vram NOT being enough once again

the CPU is more then enough for anything I throw at it

[frigid blade]

You said that like I shouldn’t make the assumption lol

[wispy thunder]

5600 to 6000 (with expo timings) is a fair improvement if you do anything memory intensive...

[tulip sparrow]

32gb in a 4x8gb 3200mhz with it running at 3200mhz cl16 without issues

[wispy thunder]

but rn I'm running 5600 JEDEC (CL46)

[frigid blade]

I was talking about gaming

[tulip sparrow]

So yeah I am glad I am set on RAM and won't need to upgrade my cpu/ram/mb any time soon

[wispy thunder]

would you believe me if I told u I got 3600 CL16 stable running 4 sticks on my 7700K?

[tulip sparrow]

Wouldn't surprise me lol

This is LPX ram to boot

[wispy thunder]

I don't think I've ever had memory issues with intel

Oh damn

I always used ripjaws v

[frigid blade]

My 13900k was able to run 4x48 5400 stable but my 285k can’t get above 4400

[tulip sparrow]

ultra's LOVE CUDIMMS

[wispy thunder]

uhhhh

tho... I can't deny Ryzen chips are just cheaper... this was two years ago and was just a tray CPU, but perfectly legit.

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wchwh-quceA

@frigid blade might want to watch that

[frigid blade]

Why what’s in it

[frozen bay]

It means AMD much better from performance and costs than intel?

[tulip sparrow]

@frigid blade Just syaing if you want to get the most out of your Core ultra CPU you may want to watch it

[rose sorrel]

Is threre a big difference between 2.0 and 3.2 thumb drive

[frigid blade]

max speed

480Mbps vs 20Gbps

[tulip sparrow]

USB 3+ drives are going to be much faster

[deep musk]

sketchy, not really worth it tbh

[flint pulsar]

Is it actuall 200 bucks?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1681213096656666/

Listing if someone want to check it out

[deep musk]

which currency?

[flint pulsar]

usd

The seller is an hr away from me

[azure topaz]

yes

[flint pulsar]

FB profile... seems leget

[deep musk]

hyte lists it at 180 usd

[tulip sparrow]

Just nope for me on the fishtanks

[deep musk]

(same)

[tulip sparrow]

My current case is a Pop Air Solid

[deep musk]

so it's too sketchy (for me at least) @flint pulsar

[tulip sparrow]

and since it apparently isn't sold any more RIP

[flint pulsar]

Is there downside for this kind of case?

[deep musk]

mine is the qube 500 flatpack macaron edition (I'm only using the pink panels)

[deep musk]

the y70 seems to be good

[tulip sparrow]

My case isn't sold any more is what I was talking about

[deep musk]

ohhh oki

[tulip sparrow]

OEMS want to sell tons of FISHTANKS these days

[ionic ember]

hello!

Just got here, glad to be around

[rose sorrel]

It’s for my 3d printer so does it matter

[deep musk]

not really, your printer might only have a 2.0 port

[tulip sparrow]

Be surprsed if it did

[rose sorrel]

32gb is over kill but $6

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah they are cheap these days LOL

I can find 256gb ones all day for $10 or less

[deep musk]

if it's a real drive, worth it

[tulip sparrow]

but then again those are likely usb 2 ones

[flint pulsar]

It does look too good to be true... seller is pretty firm for the price, I ask for no GPU riser and Fan for 30 bucks he is not willing to budge

[ionic ember]

I guess I should post my build:
9950X3D
Peerless Assassin 120
128GB DDR5-6000
4070 Ti Super
Too much storage
Silverstone FARA 513 Case
Super Flower Combat 850W PSU
And yes, I have an optical drive

[flint pulsar]

Not sure is this a good or bad thing

[deep musk]

yeah, he might really want to get right of it completely (with the fans and the rizer) but it's still too weird for my liking ngl

[deep musk]

please tell me this was built before the crisis

[ionic ember]

bought the first 64GB in October of last year and then I got the second kit second hand in december as I saw them starting to get out of control

[ionic ember]

the memory doesn't match but the timings, capacity, and speeds are the same, and it's stable, so :/

I do like this case a lot, as un-flashy as it is. My preference for office PC cases kinda puts me out of most of the market

[limpid ivy]

👀 ohh a dvd reader

[ionic ember]

I collect physical media and run a plex server so it was important for me to have

[limpid ivy]

blu-ray? Mines isn't but I got for free so can't complain

[ionic ember]

yeah mine is blu ray

[rose sorrel]

PNY

[ionic ember]

said plex server, built from the bones of my old 8700k rig, running TrueNAS scale

[deep musk]

that's fine af for a 3d printer

[ionic ember]

also I don't really recommend that case

it's got major airflow issues, which is why I had to cut a hole in the top panel and throw a fan on it to get air to my PCI devices

my HBA card kept overheating and dropping drives and after the third one I killed I figured out that those things expect forced air

[rose sorrel]

Even for other stuff too ?

[ionic ember]

my solution

[deep musk]

yeah, won't be the fastest thing ever but it's gonna be fine

[ionic ember]

also PNY generally makes good stuff

I say generally because the thermal paste they used on my GPU squeezed out completely, and putting PTM on it dropped temps by 20 degrees on the hotspot

it's good now but I can't tell you how much I was racking my brain trying to figure out why it was running so damn hot all the time until I decided to finally crack the card open

[dawn garden]

hey guys

i just bought 2 16gb ram kits

3200MHz PNY

i mean 3600*

but i can only get them to post as 2666MT/s

my xmp profile is on..

and my computer takes like 2 full minutes to post each time

:S

[ionic ember]

DDR5?

[dawn garden]

ddr4

[deep musk]

which cpu?

[dawn garden]

i am on am4 socket with ryzen 7 5700

on gigabyte b550 ud ac y1

[ionic ember]

when was the last time you updated your bios

[dawn garden]

is my cpu just too poopy to handle the MT/s?

well... a few months ago

but ive installed fedora and stuff since then

and now im back on windows...

[ionic ember]

OS shouldn't matter

[dawn garden]

do i have to reupdate my bios?

okey dokey..

[ionic ember]

doesn't hurt to reflash bios

[dawn garden]

how do i reflash ?

[deep musk]

do you have any other ram kit that runs at 3600? (also, if you use only one of the kits (try both), does it post with 3600?)

[deep musk]

nah, your cpu is fine

[dawn garden]

i only have a 3000mt/s 16gb kit

from apacer and it ran at 3000mt/s

[ionic ember]

download the bios from gigabyte's website onto a thumb drive, unzip it, restart your computer, del/f2/f11 on startup to get into the bios, update from there

[dawn garden]

heckin okey

[clear canyon]

Bruh

[blissful horizon]

does anyone know why my gtx 1080 is crashing and the only way i can seem to fix it is underclocking

[clear canyon]

Ur gpu id old, that happens

[ionic ember]

DDR5 has lots of issues with memory training times and running at the correct speeds so that's why I asked

[blissful horizon]

yeah that makes sense

its my old computer so its fine just a bit annoying

[deep musk]

tried repasting?

[blissful horizon]

I have not but it doesnt seem to be a heat issue

[ionic ember]

like, it takes my PC 10 full minutes to boot after a bios update because of damn memory training

[clear canyon]

They wont go that low

[deep musk]

never hurts to repaste an older gpu

[mint umbra]

Yep no more Linux for me

[blissful horizon]

I might try that at some point then thanks

[mint umbra]

I bricked my os just by changing a wall paper on a wallpaper engine plugin

Linux too easy to brick system

[ionic ember]

yeah I was probably mixing up stock speeds

[deep musk]

no worries

[grizzled frost]

Linux lets you do whatever you want, caveat, it lets you do whatever you want

[dawn garden]

i spent all morning installing windows on my laptop because i couldnt figure out why my realtek wlan driver wouldnt install

[mint umbra]

All I did was change a wall paper with a plugin

[dawn garden]

turns out my laptop has mediatek wlan card

https://tenor.com/38Ap.gif

[ionic ember]

lol and also lmao

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.destructoid.com/a-games-company-released-agentic-tools-to-generate-infinite-ai-slop-and-of-course-you-have-already-guessed-that-its-roblox/

[deep musk]

that plugin might have been the issue, also, why didn't you use the system settings to change it?

[mint umbra]

The plugin was in the settings

[deep musk]

[mint umbra]

Was a wall paper engine plugin

[dawn garden]

@deep musk i blame lenovo tho. my laptop info sticker on the bottom is transparent with black text on a black laptop...

like who tf designed this ish... so i mistook a 6 for a b for 2 hours and it kept telling me i needed realtek drivers

[deep musk]

yeah, boo lenovo

[ionic ember]

lenovo's consumer hardware is hot garbage

[dawn garden]

meh its just my cruddy lil spare

[grizzled frost]

a TENS unit on the lower back feels so good after a long day at work

[deep musk]

my gf's laptop network was clapped out by lenovo's bs software

[dawn garden]

btw guys

i have latest version of bios available for my board

[deep musk]

had to cmpetely reinstall windows (without lenovo's bs) to solve the issue

[dawn garden]

f5h 🙁

[grizzled frost]

aren't you all special and all

my board is running the same bios as when i built the thing

[deep musk]

might be an issue with one of the kits, try one kit at a time

[dawn garden]

iroh i mean it isnt gonna help me to update my bios to fix my mhz/mts issue

[ionic ember]

they keep issuing thinkpads at work very randomly, I will see thinkpads for like a year and then it's back to business class Dell laptops for the next 3 and then thinkpads come back

[grizzled frost]

what is your "mhz/mts" issue?

[ionic ember]

can't run at rated speeds

[dawn garden]

just bought 2 16gb 3600MHz PNY DDR4 kits

[grizzled frost]

what CPU, what ram config, what ram speed

[dawn garden]

installed all four cards in my ram slots

[grizzled frost]

4x16?

[dawn garden]

4x8

[grizzled frost]

what cpu

[dawn garden]

32gb total. 2 16gb kits (of 2)

[mint umbra]

I can't even boot into my os anymore

[dawn garden]

ryzen 7 5700 (not x just weird oem chip from cyberpower)

[grizzled frost]

any other EXPO options?

[dawn garden]

only 1 profile is available it says its for 3600 but then it stays at 2666mt/s in windows task manager

[grizzled frost]

lol what mobo

[dawn garden]

gigabyte b550 ud ac y1 (rev 1.0)

[grizzled frost]

i love you

[dawn garden]

uhhh

[grizzled frost]

thank you for not omitting half the motherboard specs

the amount of times people say "gigabyte" is incredible

[dawn garden]

haha..ive been troubleshooting this for a few hours without success before coming here to bug yall

so..its fresh on my mind lol

[formal sonnet]

Was gonna say.... most people just say B350M without even mentioning the brand or revision number. It's great to see someone mention the full motherboard make, model, variant, and revision number.

[grizzled frost]

try manually setting the speed in BIOS

[dawn garden]

...im not sure how to do that?

[grizzled frost]

pick some really loose timings just to see if it posts at 3600

[spring raft]

I just turned on my pc after a day of being away, and it made a loud hissing sort of squeeling noise until it finally booted. Anyone got any idea why?? I'm scared to see if it will happen again when I power off and on again.

Now its all fine apparently

[grizzled frost]

look on the back of the ram dimms, should list the timings on it

[formal sonnet]

You'd have to listen closely for where the squealing sound was coming from. It's likely a fan bearing.

[grizzled frost]

manually enter that into bios, (leave voltage as whatever the default is), then add like 2-4 to each number

[deep musk]

(or an hdd failing)

[dawn garden]

how do you do all this...

it only lects me select the main profile and "off"

:S how do i manually enter settings

sorry im trying to keep up!~

[azure topaz]

expo does not exist on ddr4 💀

[deep musk]

it's in the adanced settings, press f7

[grizzled frost]

bro idk floppa, i only do d5 oc

[dawn garden]

brb let me boot into bios and hop on my laptop on discord to see if i cant follow your instructions in real time

[azure topaz]

its okay iroh i love you you got this

[tiny jungle]

Hey guys I think I broke my RGB headers by clearing power last night from my computer when turning my PSU off, I’ve got a CPU post code but everything works besides RGB. I already reset BIOS and reseated RAM my CPU. Any advice what I should try I might unplug the headers on the back of my PC that connects the fans to the RGB header

[grizzled frost]

wuv you too

[azure topaz]

3600 4x8 on what board/cpu?

[grizzled frost]

gigabyte b550 ud ac y1, r7 5700 (non-x)

[spring raft]

ok ty

[spring raft]

i dont have any hdds in this pc

[azure topaz]

should check with something not built into windows (hwinfo memory tab), & then fafo with voltage @ xmp clocks to see if itll post that way

[deep musk]

oh oki

[azure topaz]

gaming

how in the WORLD am i getting 40 frames

[odd marsh]

You need a 5090

[azure topaz]

its WaW 😭

[dawn garden]

Meh

Idk how to edit anything even in advanced mode

I’ll take a pic

[azure topaz]

picture

thank you

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/haz-gif-26447444

[south arrow]

What platform/app you running it on?

[azure topaz]

advanced memory settings

[azure topaz]

memory subtimings

[dawn garden]

Ohhh lawd there are a lot

[azure topaz]

add +2 to tCL, tRCD, and tRP, then add +10 to tRAS and tRC

[ionic ember]

post a picture of both sides of your memory kit's packaging

[azure topaz]

its fart poopoo die

[azure topaz]

this guy takin hella photos for no reason

[azure topaz]

mystery meat ic its probably cdie or some hynix crap

if you dont want to fafo that much just turn on XMP and then set the memory frequency to 3200 and then youre fine

[odd marsh]

sharing with the world

[gaunt spade]

did u eat

[dawn garden]

ok floppa thats mad weird that that worked

why wont 36 work but 32 does :S le cryyy

oh whale im happy with 3200 came from 3000 and only 16gb

[odd marsh]

because higher frequency is harder to run

[dawn garden]

and now my pc posts super fast again

so im super happy 😄 THANKS!

[ivory fox]

Any help here with the rog ally z1e? I’m getting one on Monday and I’m between keeping windows, or steamOS OR bazzite. Can anyone weigh in on the benefits or experience yall may have had? Thanks!

[dawn garden]

sorry for pic spam. i was trying to give as much info as possible sinc ei wasnt sure what would be necessary

[deep musk]

[deep musk]

it's fine, don't worry

[dawn garden]

double the ram at 200mhz faster speed

[azure topaz]

its up to the cpu/board as well as the memory

[dawn garden]

😄

[azure topaz]

if you want to continue to fafo with it im sure 3600 is possible, however, its not really worth it, so, 3200 is fine

[dawn garden]

yeah i agree

im not gonna mess with it i just didnt want to wait 4 minutes everytime i boot

[azure topaz]

🫡 meow

[dawn garden]

^_^ epic!

[azure topaz]

yeah thats it failing to post 3600 (3 times) and then going into safemode

[dawn garden]

yeah i figured as much

my cpu is a oem htat wasnt publically available i think its technically a mobile cpu

from what little i could find out about it

[azure topaz]

its probably cezanne, so a 5700 G without the G lol

[dawn garden]

(got this pc as a grad gift in 23)

yeah its cezanne

[azure topaz]

yeah so that chip can easily do high memory clocks

[deep musk]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700.c3305

[dawn garden]

😠 then its the ram. im going to sue walmart!

[azure topaz]

cezanne is capable of 5000+ MT/s

[deep musk]

found it

[dawn garden]

yeah thats what i read too

[deep musk]

*depending on the chip

[azure topaz]

yeah probably, although 4 dimms is technically harder to run

[dawn garden]

because of voltage right?

[deep musk]

*pny, don't sue, rma the ram

[azure topaz]

more manual tuning skill required, not really rhe ram's fault

[azure topaz]

nah

[dawn garden]

well i was just jokinga bout sueing lol

[gaunt spade]

dont run 4 ram sticks on am5

[azure topaz]

its am4 shh

[dawn garden]

im actaully suuuper happy because for my christas i wanted ram and at christmas these cards were like 200 bucks

[gaunt spade]

im not talking about his system

[azure topaz]

the extra memory sticks rely on physically longer traces, making the signal worse, so 4 sticks will always* be a little slower

[dawn garden]

got them for 85$ per kit today

[azure topaz]

especially if you are of the lesser skilled variety at ram oc/tuning

[deep musk]

quite good for the crisis

[gaunt spade]

170$ for 32gb ddr4?

[dawn garden]

yeah even for 3200mt/s i think its good for 32gb

(ddr4 tho)

[gaunt spade]

cl 18 too

[deep musk]

woups, no not that good

[azure topaz]

its not really, but it doesnt super make a difference regardless

[ionic ember]

you can't stop me you're not my mom

[dawn garden]

yeah rico

[gaunt spade]

i will not but the mobo will

[azure topaz]

i ran 4800 on 4 sticks on ddr4, but it takes a lot more time to setup

[gaunt spade]

crazy high price

[deep musk]

just max out every settings /s

[dawn garden]

how cheap was it before?

[azure topaz]

half the price

[gaunt spade]

well how much before

[ionic ember]

[dawn garden]

🙁 why do i only get into tech after everything goes to heck

[azure topaz]

70-95$ for 32GB of d4

[dawn garden]

ah so i basically paid double pre-pocalypse prices

[gaunt spade]

even cheaper before d4 got expensive again

[azure topaz]

yeah if you got lucky

sometimes like 50-60

[gaunt spade]

hmmmm

[azure topaz]

used 40$

[deep musk]

cause it got a ton of attention due to the crisis

[gaunt spade]

expensive ram

[azure topaz]

i paid 35$ for 2x8 bdie

[dawn garden]

ive been watching WAN for years

[deep musk]

I got 32gb 3200 for 50 CAD (before crisis)

[dawn garden]

but i was scared to mess with my pc then my wlan card went out and i had to replace it

since then ive been slowly tinkering and replacing parts with upgrades

the only thing stock on it from the oem is the mobo case psu and cpu

[azure topaz]

boooo

[dawn garden]

i kinda wanna start from scratch

but i am super intimidated by cpu installs

[azure topaz]

its not that hard

[deep musk]

cpu is good enough to keep it, no need to upgrade

[dawn garden]

when my new ram took 4 minutes to post the first time i was like sweating

[azure topaz]

youll be fine you probably arent a moron

yeah itll be scary but you got dat

[mint umbra]

so much for linux being able to do anything

[dawn garden]

damocles have yo utried reinstalling the os

[mint umbra]

computer wont let me delete this wallpaper engine plugin

[deep musk]

gaming laptops that took 10 min to boot after reseting bios and deplugging and repluging the battery

[azure topaz]

diagnosis:lack of skill

[dawn garden]

it should only take like 15 minutes

poignee that sounds like torture lol

[mint umbra]

The plugin that is causing me issues says acess denined when trying to delete it

[deep musk]

att least they are on am4 and not on lga 2011 like my first ever cpu upgrade

[dawn garden]

i was sitting there sweating thinking "omg this 180$ ram just bricked my pc"

[azure topaz]

lmao

[mint umbra]

never again will I use linux after this shit

[azure topaz]

sopranos

[dawn garden]

damocles linux is awesome

what distro were you on?

[deep musk]

it was, that 1700 CAD laptop was only 3 monyh old too

[mint umbra]

bro one small thing brinked entire system

[grizzled frost]

inbf arch

[mint umbra]

catchyos

[dawn garden]

cachy is new

[mint umbra]

I was told by everyone to use it

[grizzled frost]

FUCKING TOLD YOU

[dawn garden]

its going to have issues

[grizzled frost]

5 years old mind you

[dawn garden]

no i meant

[mint umbra]

eveyone told me to use it mate what do you want from me

[dawn garden]

everything in cachy is on a rolling release

[azure topaz]

fart shit os # 67

[grizzled frost]

nah i'm just kidding, cachyos is cool

[dawn garden]

things bork all the time

cachy is cool but you gotta be prepped for dday

you should try a more basic linux first to get used to the general ecosystem

preferably not arch forks

try debian/fedora or mint

[pine atlas]

"iPhone is secure"

https://youtu.be/OFLvXF8NmOo

[dawn garden]

fedora kde is sweet as heck

but i went back to windows currently so i can make use of apple music app

[deep musk]

[mint umbra]

ppl said it was just as easy

to use catchy

was originally planning to do fedora

[deep musk]

@azure topaz the average combined pressure of the dual leverages of the 2011

[mint umbra]

I think I fixed it after reinstalling all packages

But still can't delete the plugin

Ok something still bugging so I need to reinstall

[prisma smelt]

Can someone please help me, I've done everything I know to fix my problem and I cant get it fixed. windows event viewer is just showing me forcing a shut down. (my pc Keeps freezing up randomly, I haven't been able to find the cause)

[pine atlas]

What are the PC specifications

[prisma smelt]

Ryzen 7 2700X, 16 gigs of ddr4, NE-1TB 2280 is my ssd and a 6gb rtx 3050

[oak rampart]

I got a 2tb 870 evo ssd for $100 is that good deal?

[sleek ibex]

Arch do be like that

mind you, Arch/based is not a good choice for newcomers

[mint umbra]

So do I reinstall catchy or switch to fedora ?

[gaunt spade]

what if

[gaunt spade]

thats why i have pigeons

[prisma smelt]

when it freezes it keeps supplying power to my mouse and keyboard until they're unplugged and plugged back in. as well as it gives constant signal of the freeze frame even if its left for a couple hours.

[abstract rampart]

thoughts between 2 SSD's: which is more practical for a boot drive a WD SN850X or a WD SN8100?
does the controller & nand flash matter on either?

[ionic ember]

one of my previous builds in a silverstone TJ08. That fucker was DENSE and somehow I had zero thermal issues

incredible build quality though

big fan of silverstone tbh

like, the panels on that case had thicker steel than any other case I've ever used and the power button sprang back with this authoritative CLANK

mildly disappointed that my most recent silverstone case wasn't built with the same quality but it is what it is

[hexed tapir]

Get the one I sent

[glossy veldt]

brah

tidin tidin tidin

[charred ledge]

After nearly a decade of running my media server.. I just realized I never put my LAN network address into Plex's server settings and it's been streaming remote on my local network. Well at least it's fixed now.

[glossy veldt]

i love my rattle machine

[ionic ember]

classic blunder

I have my remote users knocked down to 10mbps which is still 1080p

[charred ledge]

I probably should do that considering I only have 40Mbps up

[ionic ember]

yeah not a bad idea

probably would do 8 in your case

a lot of stuff on my server streams at less than 10 because anime can handle quite a bit of compression before it starts looking too terrible

[charred ledge]

I want to transcode my entire library to h265 but I can only do that CPU right now and its not worth the electricity. Waiting to build a new server and throw my old GTX 1080 in it.

I got this one, an old Dell Precision T7600 workstation with dual Xeons and 32GB ECC RAM with a 1300W power supply for $400 nearly a decade ago off ebay. It was legit one of the best purchases I ever made. Still running strong today. But I just ran into my first issue after a drive was starting to show some worrying SMART errors so I pulled it pre-emptively.

I think my H310 HBA is not liking modern drives at all. Signal issues it seems. And I'm not sure I can replace the card with a newer one because of Dells propriety power cable is like a giant hydra of cables all in one really limiting my options. And drives are too expensive right now to chance it haha. So I'm capped out at 20TB currently and I want more

[ionic ember]

oh man yeah there's a few things going on there

[charred ledge]

Yeah I tried 3 different drives and none were recognized in the BIOS even. Luckily I was able to return them, but I don't want to gamble with that again. And drive prices keep skyrocketting unfortunately. And no way Im paying the same prices for a 10 year old drive hoping it works

[ionic ember]

so I think you can get adapter cables that can convert standard ATX connectors to ones that will work with Dells, which fixes that problem

I would sell the 1080 and put that money towards an a310 so you can get AV1 and HEVC

my HBA's kept overheating and would start acting in a similar manner, strap a 40mm fan to it and you should be good because I thought my drives were also failing but nope, the HBA was on the fritz

[kind ingot]

Opera browser is being laggy 😂

[charred ledge]

I'm open to any suggestions. I've been trying to use AI to help diagnose the best course of action, but it hasn't been too helpful so far. As far as I know I don't know if an adapter works for my rig. It has a dedicated power distribution board with proprietary connectors. And even if I got one, this amalgamation of a cable pretty supplies everything including drive data so I'm not sure if I can replace that with anything. If there is a solution that would fix like 100% of my problems haha. I would immediately buy a new HBA and some drives.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115343276392

[ionic ember]

#1 - AI is sinister and untrustworthy
#2 - those look like standard ATX 24pin connectors in that listing
#3 - my solution is to just rig up two separate Flex PSUs in these cutouts on the back of your case and boogie:

[bold olive]

why did i mistake it for an optiplex

[ionic ember]

because it's still a Dell lol

[bold olive]

🙄

[ionic ember]

and looking at the motherboard for that system, there doesn't seem to be any weird plugs out of the ordinary on the board, despite it being a very Dell form factor

the backplane on the other hand is a bit of a different story but it's not insurmountable

[north hill]

new thermal paste

[charred ledge]

Hmm I'll have to look into that. As far as I know there is only those two connectors for power so I probably would have to run a flex PSU for powering the drives and just connect them to the hba with sata cables over the the aio sata connectors the cable I'm using now has. But I don't know where I would fit it or how well that would work. I probably should just build something more modern to get away from the proprietary issues, but I'm looking at at least $1500 and thats without any additional drives than I have now and using consumer RAM.

Yeah the backplane could also be a bit of an issue. That monstrosity of a cable is my biggest hurdle right now.

[north hill]

old was rock-hard

[ionic ember]

https://tenor.com/view/kleomenis-tool-gif-14328067

cut those holes!

[charred ledge]

So would I leave the existing cable there, but use a flex psu for powering just the drives so I can run a data cable to a newer HBA?

[ionic ember]

nah you're going to need two separate flex PSUs to get 2x 24pin for the motherboard

[charred ledge]

Ive never used a flex psu before, so not sure how that all works