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Is the intel i3 12100F reccomended to use nowadays, or should I just straight up upgrade

its still very good
do you have 12100F?
I got the choice to get a new intel motherboard that supports my i3, and I have 64 gb ddr4 ram
Or
Switch to amd with a new motherboard and 1 stick of 16 gb ddr5 ram
Yup
But im in this iffy situation and idk what to do

whats it running bad?
The motherboard stopped working so I can either replace it and keep my cpu and ram and also upgrade to water cooling or just switch it all out to ddr5
When the side panel goes back on it doesn't matter.
Exactly
If you can’t see it it doesn’t exist
Trust
Although this is making the cable extensions in the front look strange
Mine doesn’t go back on for my home server
with in warrenty?
Eventually I want that in a proper case with the correct drive bays
anyway ddr5 costs crazy amount and will not be meaningfly faster may aswell just get replace ment board and keep ram/cpu unless cpu was not keeping up in your workload
Nah the motherboard was bought from someplace else sadly
RIP that ddr5 is slow vs good ddr4
Oooo ok
What’s your cpu now
i3 12100F
And my graphics card is the swift 210
Why does this exist
For devices that don’t need big fans
But it’s one single mini fan
This is a mini device
i can't because i dont have an ultrawide
Fire naming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70uei9-FqkE if monitor unboxed reccomends it, i listen, i'll keep my 16:9 for 5 years and wait for oled ultrawide to cheapen, then buy an ultrawide with a mild curve.
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an adjustable monitor is insane though.
adjustable curve....
Hey does anyone of Paradigit, I've never head of it im woundering if its legit becuase the price of a monieter that i want to buy is like €100 cheaper (https://www.paradigit.ie/gigabyte-gs27u-27/21824492/product)
This is the closes price i can get it in ireland https://www.currys.ie/products/gigabyte-gs27u-4k-ultra-hd-27-ips-gaming-monitor-black-10280838.html
till her next round of fillers
I had a 1500r screen once
800 shouldnt even be that much
The woman is something of a marvel. Not positively that is, but she’s a fascinating creature for financial, cosmetic and dating reasons. Especially now given her age physically, however I feel like she’s still stuck in her early 20s
Her low effort exploits of tabloids still working is also minor genius. The money she’d earn from proper social media engagement would make so much extra work. She built that system and still exploits it now.
(BaseBoard Product: ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz
ssd (c:)WDC WDS500G2B0A-00SM50)
looking to upgrade my friends computer, anyything here i should start with?
nothing
she a ho' and everyone knows it tbh
W help
if you cant list what running slow you shoud not upgrade anything
any upgrades is going to result in a platform change, if you want a better cpu, otherwise it's fine and or you can go to 40 series nvidia 05 a 9060xt
Made millions from being a ho. I’d do it too
you're already a ho' though a ho' for tech
Upgrade when you can, a 12600K isn't particularly expensive nowadays
mobo died
happy bdayyy
Does it matter if Normal thermal paste gets under the AM5 cutouts on the CPU or should i try and get it out 
its fine
still booted after this
kk
its just cause i got a brand new Mobo and a 9950X3D just wanted to make sure since ive used intel for 20+ years and finally swapped to AMD
RIP
pleass say your not a gamer
so perfect use case for 270k
at like 50% of price
7 more years and you'll be wishing your childhood back
I needed to make up for slow memory since I neeed some much for my Work XD and intel does not have the cache to do that
Blink 182 Adams Song made me not wanna be 23
most of my tasks are GPU bound and i have a 5090 for that, and the tasks that are CPU related are like 10-20% of what i do so i prefer the better gaming cpu
ah yes that 3% gain
9800x3d is cheaper and just better for gaming
8800MTS 
Again idk what you dont understand by a hybrid system but its a whatever thanks for the thermal paste input at least
Well quite simply put it makes no sense
I have a hybrid system for gaming and word processing is the same thing as what you said 
Multi-purpose, makes much more sense.
beating my 7800x3d by 50 seconds 😭
You also don't need to load models that exceed 100GB in memory or most likely dont have a system with 192GB of RAM or run Background servers that requires more cores
9950x3d is kind of just dose not make the landing for mixed use case
that song is for when you're in your 40's or older
because you have to math yourself into figuring it out
Corsair made this abomination of a diagram....
Hey guys, I have an issue. My pc says i got 16gb ram installed even though its 16x2
Both of sticks are lit up so i dont understand why it says 16 instead of 32
It used to be displaying 32gb now only 16
any solutions? I also noticed my pc became slow i get drop frames when i open 2 tabs of the same app sometimes
It means nothing without testing methodologies and brands
Are both RAM Chips inserted correctly?
Also when i remove my wireless wifi driver and put it in quickly my pc crashes and restarts
yes and are lit up
Holy fuck £15* for 3g of thermal paste? Thats not for me
I’d rather use something else or spend money on ptm
if thats the case wouldnt it not be lit up
like the ram sticks
Can still get power and the links not working
what should i do?
I know, but the axis are wrong, starting at 70 and I think they are not allowed by some laws in the EU atleast not to display other companies names because the tests were probably done by themselves and not by a free testing lab. But why have an all wrong diagram that displays nothing in the end, atleast its funny
Make sure it is seated. Check bios to see if both detected. That rules out hardware/software issue
also my pc been so slow lately like i open 2 unreal engine tabs and the app crashes and my mouse freezes
Marketing. The nubs will buy it
it never happened before, could it be the wiindows itself?
alright
Hard to tell if software or hardware again.
If bios shows both Dimms populated correctly with correct voltages, it’s probably a winblows issue
Thats a good first step, but check if both are really recognized by the system
Probably
Although hey it could be really good. You just don’t know
It could be but if they dont have real testing data, its all worthless
its not, one of them isnt because it say only 16
also in bios same thing
i just check it only say 16
Then only one is inserted vorrectly. First take one out at a time and check if the RAM chip is the issue
and then you can check the slots on the mother board
(if you have 4 slots try 1+3 and 2+4 )
If this isnt the issue, you can go on and check if its a siftware issue
then they realise, they're the worst thermal paste
them lighting up isnt really a safe way to say that the hardware is working correctly
"Lower number is better" ~ Corsair
After 12 hours of work (mostly waiting for things to load) I have finally figured out what I needed to do in unity
meanwhile £5 for mx-4/mx/6/mx-7 or £4 for helios
Its seems to be a common theme on the Corsair website to either not label and wrongly display axis...
alr wait ill try
by the way is it worth upgrading to a 5080 from a 4070 as an indie game dev
or nah
$180 for a 9950X3D IHS - Read more here: https://wccftech.com/user-buys-ryzen-9-9950x3d-from-amazon-finds-entire-cpu-missing-under-heatsink/
It depends on what you’re doing as a game dev and what engine you are working in
unreal engine and my display is 2k
it works fine but as i said my pc been freezing and im not sure if its a software issue or smth
What part of unreal are you working with
Environment, code or models+environment
Or all 3 tbh
Then the gpu won’t make much of a difference
Depends on the engine and what you want to do with it. But price to performance wise its not really worth it. You should check out other bottlenecks in your system first
Tbfh unless you’re doing models, with UE5 you should prioritise CPU. GPU has a benefit in environment, but it has a significantly bigger benefit to modelling
With code, your gpu is basically redundant
Should I get a new hinge?
Did you have issues so far with ue5?
Nah tape it
With what
duct tape and hopes and dreams. But fr get a new hinge or 3d print one
Oh
Could work but be careful with the screen compoments
The cable is already shearing(?) and at certain angles I get no display
Thats bad
I'm doing the best I can right now
oh god. is that a HP or a ThinkBook? it doesnt look like a thinkpad.
HP
Convertible x360 to make it worse, it's a 360° hinge
also, that hinge is ripped out of the display assebly. so you wont be able to flix it that easily. you need a new display assembly frame. display should be fine if i see this correctly. Maybe you can even get the next gen model, it should be compatible, but made out of magnesium/aluminium.
try aliexpress and all those chinese sites. they often sell stuff like this. maybe you even get lucky with HP support. even tho they are a nightmare to deal with.
and the cable should also be replacable unless HP decided to hard solder it to the display (unlikely btw)
what i definetly do NOT recommend is JB weld. it heats up when curing and will damage the display and everything around it. that stuff is toxic for computer components. also you will NEVER get that stuff off there if it decides to break again
I spent like $13 on this laptop it might not be worth it
how do you even break the hinges
its HP. what do you expect
if you want to get a durable laptop WITHOUT hinge problems, get a god damn thinkpad
HP stands for Hinge Problems
even on a HP (had a HP laptop that lasted from 2018-2024 and the board failed before the hinges did)
bro got lucky
i had 7 HP laptops through work in the last 5 years.. we finally switched to ThinkPad. (i personally went with macbook cuz all apple ecosystem) (ik, boo me, i like it)
the first 6 broke after just a few months of use, and the one that broke the straw was a HP OmniBook Ultra Flip 14 for 1500$ that snapped the hinges on the first day. right after unpacking.
NEVER AGAIN HP
Why does everyone call apple stuff over priced by not samsung
Both are overpriced. i got a great deal on it, that the only reason i even went for apple
600$ for a M4 Macbook Air with 24gigs of RAM and 1TB of SSD
yeah HP kinda sucks
Would you say Nvidia is over priced?
Hinge Problems is what you bought
I would say yes. However they have perks that AMD does not have. NVENC as example. fully native RT Cores. (idk if amd also has those now)
a few more things that i dont remember.
AMD is more consumer friendly on the other side.
exactly. that why we threw out all our HP laptops and replaced them either with thinkbooks or macbooks.
I only asked if it was over priced. Not to give me a list of features and compare to a competitor
Short answer, yes
Was like this when I got it
im kinda waiting for this AI bubble to burst, cuz then all the prices are going to drop dramatically. even the gpu prices. but idk how long this is still gonna last sadly
Hopefully not much longer
I'm hoping to get a steam frame for a decent price
yeah. i need new ram after one of my 4 sticks went kaboom.
My mom's still refusing to give back my desktop so I'm stuck with this shitty laptop
huh the fuck happened
It's got an i3 7100u, and it still somehow can't keep itself cool
Not to mention the HDD that makes things take forever
wait, lemme guess, ur underage, your mom got mad at you for no reason and took you pc away?
Yep
rip
She got mad at me cuz I bought it without her permission (with my money)
And made me return the PSU and I didn't get my money back for it
And won't even let me order my new camera lens 😒
do not take this as advice.
i had the same problem with my first laptop that i bought.
the took my laptop.
in return i took the battery out of her car lmao
shit went down pretty quickly after i got back from school.
TLDR, i got my laptop back and she got her battery back
I've already been arrested for this soooo
Yes
the hdr sunburn when im casually scrolling through reels
I doubt your mom would have you arrested. Also this is a family dispute. Most cops won’t do jackshit.
considering how a lot of 9070xt models are hitting $800 now when an open box 5070ti/refurb is $900, no
It was the cops choice or smth even tho there was literally no evidence of anything
Anyways I had to live with my friend for 6 months until the charges were dropped and the no contact order was over
Oof. That sucks.
Does anyone have those like rollerblade style chair wheels
do you guys think that a separate, strictly at home only device for password manager where it has literally zero internet connection not even bluetooth is practical or bruh moment
I just spent 12 hours figuring out how to use unity to upload a custom vrchat avatar just to realize I didn't make it quest compatible 😔
not super practical
and it’s kind of less secure than most options
use a well known password manager like nordpass, then have a strong password you only use for that manager
like my password for my password manager is in 3 languages, and has random numbers and characters
then all of my passwords are 30 character alphanumerical nonsense
Does anyone know why my Windows Vista pc doesn't have an option to acess BIOS when starting it. It has options like safe booting but I genuinely can't find bios on this thing
spam delete as it boots
tried that, it only took me to the safe boot menu
I've tried all the keys
you can always just pull the boot drive and boot like that
huh
like just unplug the drive that the OS is on
and then turn the pc on?
yeah
ok I'll give it a try
it’ll force it to boot into bios since there’s no bootable media
change whatever settings you want in bios, then turn off the pc and plug the drive back in, turn the pc and you should boot back into windows like normal
friendly reminder, don’t connect a windows vista machine to the internet
ever
I've never understood ppl why download diff os for their phone
it's the android crowd, what did you expect
they love being able to make their phone their own, even if it's objectively worse
(not hating on android, just people that use android)
it wont boot into bios it just says disk boot failure
it wont let me do anything else
You can’t press escape or something like that when you’re on that screen?
ok it finally pulled it up on like the 5th try
Ok so apparently my pc cant use usb as a boot device so if i need to use hirens bootCD on there how do I even make it compatible
im cooked
I'm never gonna get this stupid password bypassed, me and my sister tried everything to remember what the password was
Do you still got the bood cd or a pc that can burn cds?
solid chance your system is proprietary and doesn't support BIOS
yeah I have a cd burner
the pc im trying to bypass the damn password on btw lmao https://www.newegg.com/compaq-presario-sr5410f-student-home-office/p/N82E16883109010
Could I possibly burn a boot cd with hiren's bootCD on it? I have Music CD-Rs ?? idk if thats even the same thing though. I don't do this often but for my childhood memories I better be trying everything
If you have CDs with nothing burned on them yet you can use them possibly as boot CD you can use a dvd too. But I dont think this will solve the Password problem. Do you have a second user account ?
No, see I was gonna use Hiren's bootCD program to bypass the password
I saw people on reddit saying it was the easiest way. The pc only has my sister's old user and then the guest account. I wanted to get our old files off the pc and also be able to play my sims 2 disks on it
but I can't play the sims 2 without administrator permission and I don't wanna just wipe the drive of our old stuff
ur best bet would be to take it to a data recovery shop
How much do they charge usually
depends
no clue, since it's not corrupted im assuming it wouldnt be super expensive
You could likely recover data yourself if you really want
probably
I'd prefer that
what steps have you already gone through? i happen to have taken a class on this
just plug the drive into a known working computer
I only know solutions for win 7 and 10 on how to get admin rights, but this might help for windows Vista
http://www.chntpw.com/guide/
would that boot the same like its on the old pc? How does that work
im not the brightest
You'd boot into the other computer like normal
you don't want to boot from the windows vista drive
oh ok
The windows vista drive should still show up like normal, and allow you to pull files off it
oh ok
after I get all of the stuff off of the old pc is there an option to just reset the drive and take off everything from the account?
and restart like new
You can just reformat the drive
Was gonna tell them to do this but I wasn’t sure if they had another ide system (im assuming it’s an ide drive)
will i have to reinstall windows vista
functionally resets the drive
Yes, but you really shouldn't be using vista to begin with
well u could reinstall any other OS
Using windows Vista is a security risk
oh well i was just gonna use it offline to play sims 2 disks
You can get sata to IDE converts for pretty cheap
That's fine, you just shouldn't ever connect it to the internet
aw man
what could I even get besides windows vista on that old thing its this pc: https://www.newegg.com/compaq-presario-sr5410f-student-home-office/p/N82E16883109010
would it even run windows 7
most linux distros
wouldnt be fun but yes - id advise just linux though
honestly my opinion would be just don't use that computer, it is so old it's essentially e-waste
yeah but the issue is i cant afford sims 2 online rn and i have the disks for sims 2 but they dont run on modern pcs

😭
I hate hard drives, I've been waiting like 10 minutes for unity to load
anadius quit or whatever so
thats bad
time to be an apple shill, macbooks use really super duper ultra fast ssds
2.3€ green ram solution (fucked up installation not included)
(but at what cost)
I'll figure it out tomorrow its 7 am
I prefer kanye
Forgor about dat 
$600 usd
Sail the seven seas of the internet or look on reddit and you will have your sims 2
they use fairly standard SSDs
high quality ones, but nothing like that crazy
Show me where I'm getting a fully functional MacBook for $13 and I will
well compared to a HDD taking 10 minutes to boot up unity its super duper ultra fast
well any SSD is going to beat any HDD
not $13 but i just found a $19 USD macbook pro from 2012 fully functional
I would be using an m.2 SSD I. This thing but my mom lost it and I can't afford a new one
i also put it on the "wrong" side!
That's 2012, this is from 2018
now you're getting it, it's super duper ultra fast
but the super duper ultra fast
you could say that about any SSD based system
but its apple shill time
If I put my SSD in here if I knew where it was it would probably be faster
Any minimally average ssd will beat that (according it’s not an absolute clapped to the floor one)
Need to play a new controller
even gen 5 drives arent 600 dollars for 2tb
is this including ones clapped to the ceiling?
Might just buy a ps5 controller
sorry i only have 1% drive health
time to find that ssd
i wonder if crysraldiskinfo is supposed to be red
My mom has it and forgot where she put it
bruh
Yep, (I unintentionally translated a French expression without noticing
(claqué au sol))
Oh unity finally opened
je mapelle ssd
Now to wait like half an hour for my avatar to import then another half hour for it to upload
how much storage do modern MBA and MBP even come standard with
16gb, 256gb
512gb & 1tb respectively
256gb on mac is 1tb on windows
I'm not sure that's how numbers work
wb mbn
256
MBP is 16gb/1tb
MBA is 16gb/512gb
MBN is 8gb/256gb
MBP starts at 1699USD
MBA starts at 1099USD
MBN starts at 599USD
now this is the true apple shill
I'm not an apple shill, i make sensible arguments for and against every brand
except alienware and HP, fuck alienware and HP
nah just buy apple
i'm being forced into buying a windows machine for school, so sadge
Hp omen’s desktops started using standard mobos and psu recently
Windows bad macos worse
i’d highkey be down to get a 19 series iphone if any of them come with 512gb default
nerd out and build a home server, vpn in and use a vm
if "conforming to industry standards" is a new feature, it's not a good thing
that's called the bare minimum, not a bonus feature
They require a win11 machine to connect to the school's server farms
connecting to my home server/desktop, then connecting to the school's server from there is cursed asf
oh yeah u arent using a vm from home to connect to school servers
There's only one really good operating system I've used and it's only got 1 issue
I’m not considering this a new feature, it’s less bullshit, not saying it’s good, just saying they are going from never in the human history would I recommend one of their system to potentially recommendable
“im the waiter and I think we can sell out 200 plates today”
“im the manager and I think we can sell out 300 plates today”
im the chef and I think they should all shut the fuck up
Linux time? 
software is windows only
they have some proprietary software they use
running a VM on a macbook is listed as an option, but that sounds annoying as hell
Awww lame, you can at least dual boot 
Classic, but you can dual boot and use windwos only for the bare minimum, for example matlab (goat) runs on linux
for daily use, i do prefer windows to linux
Vm on a MacBook sounds like a stopping life enticing experience
its not too bad actually
I've tried running a win11 VM on my MBA, it's a pain in the ass and very non-performant
win 8 and win 10 fight to the death
I don't even know how to dual boot it kinda just happened
I accidentally dragged the wrong package in unity and now I have to wait for it to import before deleting it 😭
Now to drag in the correct package
Let them fight and see who wins xD
i fucked up reinstalling windows once and i dualbooted windows 10 and windows 10
Love that
Next step is triplebooting
windows 7 on my i5-3470 8gb ram pc feels faster sometimes than my am5 windows 11 build
why are there so many animations in windowssssss
You can disable them, no?
From whiner to winner
Yup. Just waiting on a decent thinkpad to get it other than X1
oh now it feels clunky
Legends say if you have all Windows versions you will get the ultimate windows, that is an actual good working os
probably cause im used to having animations
uhhh ill put it back on and keep whininng
5800x3d RERELEASE!?!
Rookie numbers, i have 2 8gb ssd’s
2242 ssd’s*
I'm so confused right now
Tryna do something in unity and the instructions say to do some thing and I have absolutely zero clue what it possibly means or how to do it
choosing "reset this pc" on windows wipes c: right?
nope
'reset this pc' removes everything except system files
yeah
thats what i meant
like if i choose "keep my files" itll wipe c: but keep the stuff on my other drives right?
yes
im just having some issues with my gpu and overall performance of win so imma try to reinstall
will prolly go through ddu too
but i think i need to accept my dying card ;(
it only touches C:, other drives require manual reformat etc
If I remember correctly, it deletes everything that’s not a readable file and the system files
You’re sure?
yes
ty regardless for your opinion! :)
Huh?
only place i could talk to israelis
i meant thanks for your input
Oh oki, me bwain is mushy today
a 🇲🇾 explains it all
nah its also partially me not fully englishing
I’m using a 9800X3D with a 120W TDP and an RTX 5090. My system draws a maximum of 850W under combined CPU and GPU stress tests. If I upgrade to a 9950X3D2 (with a 200W TDP), will my 1000W power supply cause any issues? PSU is ROG Thor 1000P3
It should be fine
Although probably 1200w is recommended because of spikes but if your math is correct and it's an 80w increase, then you should just be on the edge of being fine
as you can run pbo and tune it, you could essentially get it to run at a lower power draw so it's around the same as you're already doing, just note that TDP does not mean actual power draw
Always plan to pull max. So 160 on cpu for 9800x3d, 650ish for stock 5090. You change to a cpu that is a higher TDP. You can bet max is around 250ish draw for 9950x3d2
rule of thumb = real power draw of cpu = tdp x2
Until released we won’t know
true, but still, the general rule of thumb works til you're playing with a power unlock intel cpu
Yeah AM5 and arrow lake changed that a bit
that's when power draw just gets thrown out the window
- programs
Efficiencies are a good thing
so u have to reinstall them again
pantherlake changing it more than arrowlake
I’d estimate max for the x3d2 to be around 250-300w max possible power draw just based on current am5 CPU’s
Never gonna reach that if you just game though
i think its going to be very mid
Probably. It will probably be the extra cache and not extra power draw demanding the TDP rating be 200w
If 9800x3d is 160w max power roughly I’d still expect it to be higher so I’d hedge bets on atleast 200w
What is a good price range for a solid all in one cpu cooler
damn i really shouldnt have gotten a liquid freezer
an lf3 for sure if you're on amd
I was going to spend the extra money on that but didn’t want the pump noise
i am indeed on amd this gives me more peace of mind thanks
The Thermalright I got is quiet af
tbf i don't hear my lf2
Still need to clean out the now backup air cooler
i dont hear my liquid freezer either
I know the lf3 can be loud even when at 80%. Probably luck of drawer
i hear other case fans but not the lf3
Would vlc fix this?
K-lite and vlc
nope, but k-lite + mpc would
mpc comes with k-lite tbh, so no need for vlc use
What is the quietest aio tho, like not the fans cause those can be replaced, I mean the pump itself
Probably something from bequiet, it’s kind of in the name for me
depends on what you have the pump set at for speed, and between thermalright and arctic i'd say
sadly, not that quiet
Genuinely only hear the pump on my frozen warframe at 100%, it’s not massively loud either
Well I mean there isn't much customisation you can do in terms of pump speed can you?
you can have it on a curve or just run it flat rate at around 80% speed
Cause like I am building a server pc which will be running 24/7 so I'm trying to make it as quiet as possible
The latter sounds easier
He still looks the same as well
depends really on the aio used
Well probably lf3
I just use 80% and at 85c it goes to 100%. If I’m gonna TJ max at 89 it doesn’t make too much of a difference but above 80c it makes around 1c cooler
then you have a choice of cables it comes with, there's a 2 in 1 cable or 3 in 1
Vlc fixed it
You do not want an aio cooler in a server, get noctua’s passive cooler if you have the place in your case
@median warren
You do if it’s style over substance and longevity
Ooh thank you
there's an extra connector on the cable if it's also doing argb
I’m guessing those that report loud pumps are probably using the all in one cable
I just want to make sure it stays as cool and as efficient as possible cause the cpu will be running intensely constantly
Nah not needed, no rgb build
Yeah, but they only a stated that it has to be quiet
Holy letterboxing on the movie
possibly, though it could be poor curve setting using the 3 in 1 cable
If you put a 120 mm fan from them at low speed on it you’ll be fine
Hmmmm
tbf, the build depends if it's an actual server rack or a homebrew in a normal case
then a definite custom fan curve is to be set
Yeah, but in any case (used as situation, pun unintended) you want reliability and aio aren’t really known for their reliability
*when working 24/7
Aios can last a long time tho, like I've had an aio that lasted 8 years
this bit is "fun", the other 2 cables are purely pwm and tachometer sensor wires
Of power on time?
No, just 8 years of daily use
that's just luck, average aio life span is 3-5 years, to do better than that, you'd do a custom loop
currently my lf2 has 4 years of constant power on use
Yeah, that’s pretty different from being powered on 24/7, an air cooler will guarantee you a better reliability (especially if it’s passive) than an aio
@median warren which cpu is gonna be in your server?
*cpu
nah, it's flu, he's going to give it bird flu 😉

Probably the 14600k
I'm debating that or the 9600x
In an mc server??? 
For 25 players? With 200+ mods?
Yes
Ohhh yesh, makes more sense
why not?
Cause for a vanilla mc server it’s way overkill
ah
Air cooler sounds good tbh
if you're doing air on a 14th gen i would go for a beefy air cooler
You guys wanna know a fun fact, ive had a pc since 2018 and built about 5/6 PCs in my life, and never used an air cooler not installed one before
14th gets HOT
The Thermalright peerless assassin should be fine, but I was also thinking of the Noctua one
don't buy noctua
The original plan was an arctic lf3
They're sexy
spectacular quality, shit price to performance
they’re great coolers, but really fucking expensive
it's pretty much a slightly more reliable peerless assasin
shit price to performance because the price is so high, not because the performance is low
^^
Well they have a good reputation for a reason
You're paying a premium price for premium performance
the difference just isn’t all that great
the performance isn't that much more premium than any other cooler
I was also thinking of an ek nucleus with Noctua fans
not enough to justify the price
you’re paying 5x the price for like 10-20% better cooling
cisco switches also have great performance over tplink switches
Yeaaaaah
you dont need cisco switches at home
which doesn’t equate to 10-20% performance improvement
but rather more like 1-2% performance improvement at most
well you’re paying for the noise level not necessarily performance
There’s the redux serie
Because of how cheap they are with 77cfm
I don't know the name off the top of my head but yes
I need 2 more thermalright fans
Never said that
I’m even saving to go see my gf in Belgium this summer cause she has to go back, and visit the uk too

The cleanest looking aio on the market, nzxt kraken
LOL
Love that case
It is a unique looking case I'll give you that
id love that case as well
id get pissed off
Mine, top and sides come off, the motherboard tray comes out.. The internal drive bays are kinda a pain in the ass but other than that I didnt hate building in it
You have to put on everything yourself, the metal legs holding the glass panel, the back panel to hide your cables, the GPU bracket(this one is in 3 parts), the PSU bracket, cable channels, etc
That doesn't sound too bad yeah
Send pictures
Oh my lord, pink cheese grater
I did too
Oh another fun fact with this case, when I put in those big metal legs that hold up the glass panel, they were misaligned and the holes didn't line up with the glass panel so I had to pull them up/down to line it up properly with the glass panel and then force them into place once the glass panel was attached and lined up
Not sure if it was intended to be done this way, but that's what I had to do
Quick question, does white or black header go to the motherboard from argb hub
based on the color and writing, the white should be the connection to the motherboards ARGB header
but if there was any documentation for that hub, that would be where we need to look
There is no documentation at all
Question: how does a typical 5080 compare to a 3090 in modern 4K gaming?
I'm considering upgrading my aging GPU
maybe selling the 3090
Where would it lay on that list?
I think,4080 lvl
Some redditors are saying that 5080 4K raster beats 3090 enough to warrant the upgrade but that 16GB of Vram concerns me a bit
if you can get a used 3090 for a good price i'd still get it for ai though lol
I don't do AI
I'm interested in 4K raster performance
I already have the
3090 but it's starting to show its age in modern 4K games
its a bit of apples to oranges though. i was just saying since 3090 is kinda out of the general comparison now its still a good buy if you can get it cheap. high vram though
4k AAA in general reserved for 4090 and 5090
i think the best 'bang for the buck' upgrade for me gaming wise is just the 5070rtx the 16gb vrsion
are you really gonna use it to its max though? are you doing like unreal engine stuff?
4080 slightly faster than 3090 in 4k , that's your reference point
Does this card have rizz?
Not considering 5090?
5090s are like $3K to $4K rn
4k?
That's insane to pay for a graphics card
average windows memory usage be like
I got mine for msrp a few months ago.
No longer possible
Use 196gb
Like, genuinely
Why’s that?
memory shortage
4x the price
When was this shortage start
December
2020
So I'm just wondering, if I mostly play games at 4K high settings, would I see a noticable uplift from a 3090 if I upgrade to a 5080
6 years 😭
yes
Its just using all the GBs you paid, how kind of Windows...
Like what percentage increase are we talking here?
@rigid fjord Can this do 4k?
I bought a dead RX 580 for the cooler thats how bad this shit is
what gpu is that?
Gtx 1070 ichill x4
Well, I guess i should also ask. I currently still have an i9-12900KF, would that substantially bottleneck a 5080 at 4K or would it be a GPU bottleneck at that resolution?
then, 4k at like 2fps
Atleast 4k
about 20-30% difference
depends on game
4k is gpu only
Minecraft shader and war thunder mid settings
so 12900KF is still strong and relevant for 4K raster then
What is a gpu without 4k?
i could do 4k with my 5600x tbh, just depends more so on what gpu i'd choose to do that with
How much could I get for my 3090 on the used market rn?
RIP slow ram
Hrmm
Rip I got 3200
about 600
Minecraft
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down
*1k
not that bad
nope, 600
What if its an EVGA 3090, does that bump the value up a bit?
400 maybe even
Ye a game and unbound or idk top shader on curse forge
it could. providing it doesn't have the fucked pwm controller
ebay is almost always overpriced
it was never added. RTX 3000 / RX 6000 was never re-tested when they upgraded their test platform (12900k --> 9800x3D)
We have to take like 20% or ×.2 for fees
@modest flame
its soo frigging bad
how does a broken card cost more than a working card
It's 13% fees iirc
dead core but good vram
10% ebay fee + 3% payment processor feee
AMD Ryzen 9 3900x
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
64 gb ddr4 ram
Swift 210
2 tb ssd
I got a question, what CPU from the 5000-7000 series would be most reccomended to upgrade to under 200 dollars?
You can't upgrade to 7000
Oh alr, then w the 5000 series which one would you reccomend
as it's am4, only 5000 series, and a 5600x/5700x
13% feels like itd be more, its pretty mehh
Tysm :D
14%, pretty close
Still pain
not to forget any other hidden charges
Yes, but it's not 20%
Im assuming 5090 is lightyears ahead of even a 5080 right?
Notable that im counting out shipping cost
don't look at uk vat
I'm in Sweden
Its not a biggie still easier then selling in person, but means everything's inflated that percent by most sellers
Unless willing to take the L of ones time
true, just uk vat is something like 21% currently
Sweden is 25%
fuck that with a barge pole
Ooofs
I agree
sideways even, not long ways
I'm probably still going to purchase most of my electronics in the states
Main expense I can get away with doing that

ryzen >> amd
Which one out of both of these would be better for 3d modeling softwares and productivity / gaming?

the 5700x will have more of an edge due to 8c 16t
Thank you so much!!
So essentially at this point
Yall think the upgrade from 3090 to 5080 would be worth?
I can get a 5080 for very close to MSRP
Is the reason it takes so long for me to import packages in unity because of my HDD
It takes like 45m+ for like 1gb
definitely worth it, you also have access to dlss 4/4.5/5
EWWWW a swede!
at least no parsnip or turnips
Sorta wrong, I just got a job here
I assume it plays alright with Linux using the proprietary drivers right?
Same here. 
I havent hit any issues with my 3090 at least
Oh, so you are a part of Sweden s problem then 
well linux's default drivers work for amd straight away, you'd have to check when it comes to nvidia
Proprietary drivers work fine for my 3090
No, I moved from the USA
Oh god, that's even worse!
Looks like I can nab a PNY 5080 at Best Buy for like $1280
The country that's known to be gay... And IKEA.
anyone recommend any specific brand of partner card of 5080?
They just have nice features is all, ill probs never actually move. Too poor
Stockholm, because that's where the company is
Oh god, my condolences
I just sit at home and make game run fast
Meanwhile I'm making the snacks for the gamers
I wouldnt pay 28% above MSRP for that
If 5070Ti is still below 1K for you thats the go to option
ideally its below $900
well main reason I'm looking at Best Buy is because i can use the 12 month interest free financing since I have their credit card
split my purchase over 12 months
financing something in general is something I would not encourage
regardless of interest
Klarna is fantastic
I've done it before for my phone, didnt run into any issues
literally just paid 1/12 of the full amount every month for 12 months with no interest
is this one of those sit around do nothing jobs?
like microsoft customer support?
Is my phasesheet contact ok?
and if I sell the 3090 afterwards id just put all the money into my credit bill
reduce my monthly payment even further
I'm down paying my S26 Ultra, and I'm paying $165 a month for 12 months at 0 interest.
I did the same but for an open box (excellent condition) google Pixel 7 Pro, split the roughly $500 purchase across 12 months
great thing about working for Best Buy corporate is that I still have access to retail systems. i can check the inventory system and see how long an open box product has been sitting in a store and what damage condition its in
Also the employee discount is pretty incredible
I saw they had a pny 5090 last week for 1999 but must've sold out super fast never saw it go in stock
when the RAM shortage began and 64GB DDR5 kits shot up to $1000, there was a short period where my employee discount still worked on RAM. I grabbed a 64GB DDR5 6400mhz Corsair kit for only $280
MCJE graphics
Decided it would be worth it, my existing kit was a bit old and if it failed at any point id have been fucked
guy on reddit posted a benchmark comparing vulkan vs bedrock mc on their laptop
90% of the comments were about how since they dont hage a dgpu, they are invalid
didnt think you could be elitist on the most popular game of all time lmao
Any benchmarks of it right now aren't useful
Redditors genuinely believe that if a person can't afford a dedicated GPU then they shouldn't be allowed to game
It's sad
I haven't done any optimization passes on it yet
r/pcmasterrace is a cesspit
Just wait until redditors find out the 780m, 890m, and 8060s are all probably more powerful than their 13 year old gpu
8060s is honestly insane
its not once u realize how it works
Its a gpu with a cpu slapped on it
Mi300a?
Anyways, how are PNY's graphics cards? I've never owned one before, but I'm looking at their 5080
it will perform like a 5080
Why do things that seem like they should be simple have to take a billion steps
I've been trying to figure this out for like 18 hours now and I don't know if I'm anywhere near being finished
Anywho
Just buy the 5080 bro
Buy an nvidia b300
Ah yes of course
Alternatively I should just take the Quadro P620 I have in my home media PC and move it to my main build
trust
Deciding if I want one of the 5080s with RGB or not
my 3090 has it and I feel like I'd probably miss it
I think I'm doing something wrong
fix your syntax
I don't even know what that means
give it all to grok
Why does this have to be so complex
i dont think windows is too accurate lmao
I should just be able to download a file put it in a folder and use it
lol
I might just give up because I don't even know what I'm doing wrong I'm just following the instructions
I got it down to 60 errors and most of them say "Error while saving prefab '_'. You are trying to save a prefab with a missing script. This is not allowed"
what models are there?
so just use github copilot to fix your code
It's not code
And ofc the thing I need got its GitHub page removed 3 days ago so I just wasted 12+ hours of my life for nothing
rgb only matters when it's on the display you're using
wayback machine the link
so what is it if its not code inside of a somewhat obvious IDE
Im so sick of this bullshit why does it have to be so fucking complicated
also github = code
and you're either in vs or vs code
Let me just download a fucking file and put it in a folder it should just be as simple as fhat
Because it forces you to do that for some fucking reason
Like as I said it should be as simple as dropping a file into a folder but nope, it has to be super difficult for some reason
probably needs something to be ran in vs code to properly compile it
feels like something you'd have to do for a custom firmware for a 3d printer
How good is the Raspberry Pi AI Hat 2+ for coding? Would be quite nice to have it onboard too
look up jeff geering, he has a video on it on youtube
ight thanks
Acting like I know what that means
180 is just pretty rough haha
This is so stupid, they expect you to know everything about unity
so use the BUILT IN AI to talk you through the issue
you have tools to HELP YOU and you're sitting in here dry-begging for help while being vague as fuck
What built in AI
And if it's AI it's not like it's gonna be a help anyways
ok so you're just stubborn and high off your own farts
It's literally built into visual studio
Idc anymore
cool then shut up about it in here
Peyton is this windows usable?
its windows 10 idk what you want
I cant wait to try windows 10 but I might get pc from shopping website
It's nothing here so later
Is it run locally?
You can make it do that, but I'm using anthropic's claude
why are you paranoid about locally ran llm for programming if you're just trying to fix a fuckin' unity issue
like there's literally unity plugins
That it would take genuinely forever
You don't understand how slow my laptop is
I don't think it would be of any help anyways
so use a model hosted by someone else?? like how it's built-in?????
you can pay or use the free integrated models
like at this point you're moping to mope
stop it
help yourself with tools VERY EASILY available to you.
Welp, I've gone and done it
i'm still trying to figure out what models i can get away with with my modest setup. i have like a 'bare bones' UI of stable diffusion. i have sd_xl_base_1.0.safetensors and v1-5-pruned-emaonly.safetensors. both are 'OK' at things but i probalby just need to learn to twist the nerd knobs and prompts better
Acer Predator PALLAS II DDR5 6000MHz 64GB (32GBx2) RGB RAM CL30 Intel XMP 3.0 & AMD EXPO Compatible Computer Memory PC5-48000 Black - BL.9BWWR.437 https://amzn.eu/d/06RvTB6L
hey guys, any idea if this kit is good? Acer not as widely known for memory as, say, corsair
So you're saying I can just click a button and ai will fix all my problems or something?
prompt it. "hey, can you understand this project and help me integrate this file into whatever it is I'm trying to do?
If you tell it what you're doing, it'll fucking work with you
give it documentation, give it whatever it needs
I don't even know where to find it
So ask google for help
you are literally brainrotting yourself by not thinking how to help yourself
Its a neat tool and growing super fast
They all communicate to grow off eachother
In the deep backend
snrk
Idk why you're getting pressed that I don't know about it if it's not made obvious enough
Because you refuse to help yourself and instead mope in here to anyone who'd listen
Like, life isn't just gonna hold your hand
this was listed for 120€ :o
You certainly this this ai will and fix all my problems though
If you work with it, it'll work with you
explain the situation, ask what it needs from you
ai isn't this omnicient being, you have to feed it sufficient info for it to help you
I open chat.
"Why is Peyton being so mean?"
I scroll up
"I think i wanna be mean too now"
I have good reasons
almost worth it for the 1070 ti
you sohulda seen the public chat argument
peyton vs some french dude that doesn't understand how arguments work
also like, if you'd tell me what exactly you're doing, I can help you with a prompt for the ai to help you
Tryna download a custom VRchat avatar and upload it so I can use ut
okay, so ask something like windows copilot how to go about creating and adding a custom vrchat model
give it the documentaion you have, give it the issues you're stuck on
gonna try and get it for 100€ for my brother
Is the i5 10400 still usable??
Very much so
How is it compared to a 12400
a bit slower 🔥
What are you trying to do?
Would 650w be enough for i7 9700 and gtx 1080ti?
Game
yes
Trying to pair it with a 3070
As long as you don't OC anything
depending on the psu, yes it could be
id try to go 12400(f) but the 10400 is totally usable
actually no, he could OC still
well they have the non k
Motherboard options for both?
i see it, and go, "who poked peyton before she has her first mug of coffee?"
b560 for the 10400 vs b760 for 12400
I mean for OP, what are their options they're shopping for?
@fluid olive when it comes to mobo
I have an asus z490 thats just lying around
that only is good enough for 10/11th gen
Oh, then get a CPU for that.
Should i just use the mobo or should i get a mobo for the cpu
I havw a bunch of incompatible parts🙏
if you went 12th gen you'd have to get a newer mobo as well
Yeah
though tbh, there's better options than going for a 3070
Do you already have the 3070?
Where i live for some reason 3070s are common so i was just planning to go for that
on the levels of 1 to death, how close are we to seeing you pile drive them into the ground?
common because vram is the issue
like a 2
Dont know why nvidia sticks with 8 gbs
not everyone needs 16gb+ of vram lmao
cause people still buy their cards anyways lol
I just think its neats, only 244$ and plays all titles just fine. Lil backup gpu
Myte check temps and repad it eventually
I mean... if you already have a working board, and you're on a budget, there's not a big reason IMO to buy a whole new board that's only one generation newer. Especially when used parts for 13/14gen are such a crapshoot.
Either save a buck and run the 10400, or spring for a modern socket like AM5 or whatever Core Ultra uses. Don't take the half measure with LGA 1700. @fluid olive
Spend the savings you would have from buying a 1700 board towards a GPU or monitor. You're gonna see way better results that way.
Like, odds are you're NOT gonna notice the difference in CPUs unless you're buying a $600+ card
Like, I run a 5070ti and I'm on AM4.
you clearly dont know me
No, but I know someone who does. (Two people, in fact!)
so when i turn on VRR, i can't use my monitor for anything other then 60hz in windows.... why is that. i had to turn it off for windows to be able to tune my asus to 240hz
it's the AQDMGR
just no
HELP
ThinkPad P16 (RTX 5000 Ada) vs. MacBook Pro 16" (M5 Max)
Hey everyone, I’m looking for a high-end workstation primarily for software development, running local LLMs, and AI development and im confused within the two above
HankVenom and the McChill
Thinkpad
Cope
damn, they must of got you just after the first coffee of the day
does asus have some nice big program that i can fix my monitor and mobo settings ?
Yo, has anyone tested DMFG in COD/warzone? I already get like 280 fps in 1440p, but would like to get more out of my monitor with minimal reduction in frames. Won’t be home for another week or so to test and there’s not much information about how dynamic frame gen performs in competitive fps when youre already getting solid frames. Anyone have any experience?
Hello elijah
nvidia moments tbh, 12gb on a 3060 then drop 8gb on a 3070 to then later release a 6gb and 8gb 3060

Is the lack of CUDA really a complete deal breaker or is Metal/CoreML catching up enough for the dev cycle?
it's only a bad choice if it doesn't make you smile after
I'm their tech support friend LMAO.
I spent 5 hours last night helping Michael with his crashing PC. Unfortunately not successful.
I got to meet Michael last Twitchcon, have not met Mr.Venom IRL yet but will one day im sure
Want a 64gb 5 minute video?

Oh you were there at Twitchcon??? I wish I'd checked, I would've said hi! Or maybe I did and just forgot?
I was in a big NCR Ranger suit, hot and dehydrated. Memory is a bit fuzzy lol. But if you saw Fallout New Vegas guy, that was me.
dehydration does that to you
Many layers of leather in the California heat will cause that. I hit up the ice cream stand like 5 times.
Guys i’m getting this instead of the 5070 W or L?
I can feel the pixels
It’s cuz of my cooked phone
i mean efficiency wise the 5070 is better but in terms of a pure performance the 9070xt is better, it's up to you what gpu will you opt for
it's so weird going from 32'' down to 27'' 😄
0h okiO
If you want, next time I convince him to go to a convention with us I can let you know haha
Why would you do that tho does the 27 have better resolution
you will* but whatever yep depends on your preferences :P
I don’t use stuff like blender and people say 5070 is good at stuff like that
will they be at Twitchcon EU LMAO
damn ignnored🥀
hmm if u want blender and other graphics rendering apps that utilize cuda cores properly and it's a benefit from having gddr7 then 5070 is the way to go but for gaming 9070xt
Ant definitely won't. Michael... we're unsure. He might have to drop money on an unwanted PC upgrade/repair soon, we're not sure.
not ignored, just no idea about metal, it's so "apple like" that I never bothered touching it
Plus he's busy working on that secret project he probably told you about
so I didn't want to give false info
I think apple pro-res hdr might be the least space efficient video format ive ever used
9070 has more VRAM than 5070. 5070 is the odd "bad" one i would say. No idea what was NVIDIA thinking giving it 12GB VRAM
9070 xt has 16gb right?
yes
yes, both 9060 and 9070 series have 16GB VRAM
Alright i’ll go with 9070 then
I really don't see why someone should go 5070 in the current market.
If you need NVENC just go 4070ti. You get 2 of them.
hi, just wanted to check if anyone has ever used a b250 btc mining board, for something else than mining. i was thinking of building a cheap server/storage device, and i can get a working motherboard for around 15$
People have indeed used them before


