tech-chat-1

[serene python]

"fine" is a big word for that

[south arrow]

Whats wrong with it now?

[serene python]

i mean look at it

and you will realize what was wrong

[turbid verge]

does anyone ahve a set up with 2 unequal sized monitors ready on hand i wann show ym friend

[humble tree]

uhh guys my monitors keep just randomly going black but still running

im i cooked

[left dove]

either your backlight is going out or your cable sucks

[tired bear]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1sh4e5l/warning_hwmonitor_163_download_on_the_official/

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[hexed tapir]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/318118754474 ok same quadro as before but a faster CPU and this has a extra 8 pin so no sketchy power adapter needed

[bitter skiff]

Awseome!!! And would this be able to play games like GTA 5 with mods and the other games just fine.????

[bitter skiff]

I was just about to say I have put up my spending limit to $500

[hexed tapir]

Easily you just need to buy a SSD for it and have a way to install windows

[bitter skiff]

And I was gonna ask if anyone want able to link me with one thags real good

[bitter skiff]

And would that be hard to do???

[left dove]

no lmao

its not rocket science

[hexed tapir]

Do you own a different PC/laptop and a flash drive?

[bitter skiff]

No

I’m a console type user

Alrhht im not willing to like open up a PC and work inside of it is there anyway someone is able to find me a good windows PC that can do games like Phas American truck sim GTA 5 with mods and stuff. Thay is up to $500. And can do those games real well I will buy off of eBay and Amazon. And help would be great!!

^^^ I would even go up to $600

[hexed tapir]

Will you not slot in a GPU or plug in a SSD?

[bitter skiff]

I thought I would have to open up the PC and stuff

[humble tree]

It used to happen

ages ago, but apparently I was on a "bad driver" i havent updateds ince then

[left dove]

well yeah..

[bitter skiff]

And I’m just not willing to do that

[humble tree]

now it's happening again but i've just updated to try fix and nothing

so honestly idk

[left dove]

You should learn. it's not gonna fuckin' explode.

[humble tree]

any of clues about the monitors or nah

[bitter skiff]

Yeah I’m just trying to find a PC thay is already build well it may not take long or stuff but yk

[left dove]

as I said earlier.

your backlight is dying

or your display cable sucks

[humble tree]

did you see what i replied to

with the drivers

[left dove]

if the drivers didn't work it's probably one of two things I listed..

[craggy cove]

using hwinfo + never updating programs that work stays winning

[hexed tapir]

Yeah you can only find ewaste slapped together for $600 unless you build or install some parts yourself

[humble tree]

on all three monitors?

[left dove]

You never said there were three displays.

you said "my monitor"

[humble tree]

i said "monitors" plural not monitor.

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-eye-roll-gif-26804824

[humble tree]

❤️

[sharp ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909634382061502525/1308203620298264697/attachment.gif

[humble tree]

uhh any other ideas

[humble tree]

i got the drivers from 26th march i think

[hexed tapir]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/397589971041 buy someone used gaming PC

Just look for 8th Gen Intel i5/i7/i9 or higher or Ryzen 3rd gen or higher R5/r7/r9. And get Any rtx gpu

[bitter skiff]

Alright bet. Has anyone ever heard of Ibuypower????

[hexed tapir]

Yes

[craggy cove]

ibuyproblems

[craggy cove]

i mean id just buy this

well priced 500 usd pc, ready to game

[bitter skiff]

Alrhht bet. But I gotta ask what the problem with ibuypower

[craggy cove]

they cheap out on components

[bitter skiff]

Oh.

So I should go with the one that was sent.

[craggy cove]

though they sometimes are a great deal, but thats more in the 1500 usd range

[craggy cove]

yep

[bitter skiff]

Alright I probably will.

[sharp ivy]

they used to

they have improved

[hexed tapir]

https://youtu.be/9sDRiakWcIM?si=ef7zTI5zya38RKN4

[native path]

@sinful cobalt I fixed my third monitor

Figured out you gotta plug it in for it to work

[gaunt spade]

shalom chat

[bitter skiff]

Well I got the PC you sent me I’m gonna trust you on this one

But I’m going to sleep goodnight y’all

[iron parcel]

Am I panicking or gpus sloping a normal thing?

[hexed tapir]

The specs are decent just no clue on the PC itself but eBay has buyer protection

[hexed tapir]

Sagging?

[iron parcel]

yeaa

[sharp ivy]

I mean

[hexed tapir]

Normal but not healthy

[sharp ivy]

it happens but you should get a bracket

[iron parcel]

Alrighttyyy, it's a first time I got a GPU card that actually sags

[hexed tapir]

I use a shoe string

[sharp ivy]

you don't need anything fancy

[iron parcel]

yeah I got a little ziptie that replaces the screw that usually holds the gpu

[sharp ivy]

ooop thats not good

you should screw it in

[bitter skiff]

He said that it should be able to run the games I want. And he did say if it does not I can return it

[sharp ivy]

and if it still sags, get an anti-sag bracket

[iron parcel]

Doesn't fit unfortunately

[sharp ivy]

?

[iron parcel]

But it seems to be doing its job nicely

the screws holes doesn't match with the gpus

[sharp ivy]

weird

do you have a photo of it?

[iron parcel]

Yeah it's a cooler master q300l

with a 4060ti

[spark lichen]

okay so before i order an apple adaptor, i have one of these, yall think this would be better than an apple dongle? (using the DT900 pro X)... idk what im looking at to compare these things

[deep musk]

coolio

[gaunt spade]

@ebon marlin

[shadow flower]

why does this always happen? i literally just play roblox 😭

[gaunt spade]

HAHAHH

AMD TRASH I HATE AMD

[unreal shoal]

I learned the hard way, Dont cheap out on power supplys, evil

Im really limited to budget and cant go much higher, but trusted and safe for a gpu dock and a 2070 oem?

[balmy tapir]

aresgame is on the avoid list

[unreal shoal]

than any suggested psu's for close to 40-50$ with atleast 1 pcie 6+2 or 8 and 24p?

[sharp ivy]

Thermaltake is pretty good, they tend to have the cheapest name brand psu

a 500W thermaltake is $64 tho

[unreal shoal]

You mean this brand?

[sharp ivy]

Yep

ah it is giving me CAD prices

that explains it

[sharp ivy]

That is a better option

if you have a slightly bigger budget then an MSI MAG A550BN is a great option too

you probs don't need that much power for a 2070 and an EGPU dock

[gaunt spade]

nooo

[gaunt spade]

F tier psu

[gaunt spade]

bradar no

[terse pewter]

at this price point, its hard to find something non-F tier

[gaunt spade]

dosent 40$ get you the cobra 650 watt

[azure topaz]

find something used

[azure topaz]

awful

[azure topaz]

no it is not. why are we spreading misinfo

[terse pewter]

99.9% explosion risk is less than 100%, so its better

[azure topaz]

buy a used c-b tier 500-650 that isn’t that old. you’ll be fine

[gaunt spade]

what

[terse pewter]

hi

but yes, something used at this price category is a better option

[sharp ivy]

I was gonna suggest used but

some used PSUs can be sketch

[gaunt spade]

thermaltake smart is worse

[sharp ivy]

I was just giving new psu options

[deep musk]

the thermaltake 650 is great if you don't use the whole 650 watts, I have two of them and I need had any issues

[sharp ivy]

it isn't a fantastic PSU but it is pretty decent for an ultra budget PSU

[gaunt spade]

the f tiers?

[gaunt spade]

son

[sharp ivy]

what

I have a bit of experience in psu sketchy stuff I've powered a 9800GTX and HDD off of 2 sata connectors from a cheapo PSU from an LGA 775 system

[gaunt spade]

F tier psu

[deep musk]

yeah, it's a real brand so unlike an aliexpress one, you'll have a customer support, also, they are very easily accessible in irl stores, often at a good discpunt

[sharp ivy]

something better non used for the price?

[deep musk]

dude, if you don't push it to it's absolut limit, people will be more than safe

[sharp ivy]

he's only powering a 2070 and an EGPU dock

[gaunt spade]

i would much rather not even have a psu than have a bomb planted

[gaunt spade]

only*

[sharp ivy]

yes

not a full 4080 gaming rig or sm

[sharp ivy]

you also didn't answer the question

[gaunt spade]

.

[heady tartan]

A friends of mine's google account has been hacked and they have put parent control on it. What can i do to help him get it back?

[sharp ivy]

well he needs a psu

thank you for your help

[gaunt spade]

thank you for recommending a f tier psu

spend 10$ more get a normal psu

[sharp ivy]

that's why I gave him the MSI 550 option

[ivory mountain]

buy 3000 watt mining psu

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/speech-bubble-text-chat-NjlRswMybn6VC8Vi8V

[azure topaz]

idk how one could think a used b or c tier that’s not that old is worse than a non used f tier

[rigid fjord]

do not get, this is a tier F psu, literlally high chance of killing your system

[rigid fjord]

this specific model is also tier F

[sharp ivy]

Not terrible though

at that price point

the MSI one is defs better

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/crow-meme-low-iq-high-8KXYOYN7VDNK5CHlUJ

[sharp ivy]

Oh you're back

ello

[rigid fjord]

it's on the possible to kill your system list, also asrock has a better one

[sharp ivy]

good to know

[gaunt spade]

assrock 650 is 50$ i think

[rigid fjord]

@unreal shoalyou in america?

[gaunt spade]

c tier

[sharp ivy]

He is

[rigid fjord]

great then he can get the asrock pro 750w for $50 and it's a tier B model

[solar moat]

crow

[azure topaz]

brother one of these units have killed a gpu of mine under 0 load

[gaunt spade]

CACAW

[rigid fjord]

cheapest tier B psu's you'd find now

[vast otter]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hwn3gJ9xw1M?si=4atfrwolj6JLSdHh

[proper gull]

If you think for a second that thermalfake are going to replace your system when their bomb kills it, think again

There is zero reason to risk it with a shitty power supply

Do not give money to companies that knowingly sell garbage

[ivory mountain]

dont know why people spend hundreds if not thousands but the ONE thing they wanna cheap out on is something that can take everything out with it if something goes wrong

[proper gull]

people are stupid and cheap

[south arrow]

Its me im people

[gaunt spade]

dont buy smart 500

[south arrow]

Sorry I didnt read anything prior lol

[gaunt spade]

unsmart decision

[gaunt spade]

someone recommended tt smart 500

[south arrow]

Im usually rmx/shiftx biased but decided to test msi mag A1250GL gold this run

Got it for 125*

[gaunt spade]

i had a evga 1300 and it blew up on me

[shy arch]

Guys I got an HPE ProLiant DL380 Gen 9 dual cpu so do y'all know if a fairly normal GTX 1050 Ti will work plug and play with the server

[deep musk]

probably

[proper gull]

My EVGA 850 G2 has been great for almost 9 years now

[deep musk]

my ea-750 (from 2009) is still good

[south arrow]

Where you within warranty?

[proper gull]

Buy an A tier, cry about the price for a little bit and then just never have to think about it again

[gaunt spade]

nope bought it used

[south arrow]

Be like that sometimes

[south arrow]

Its not that much more expensive if you wait for a sale

[grizzled frost]

speaking of warranties, i have to RMA another spotlight because the red LEDs are dying in it

[gaunt spade]

idk if its fully dead tho

[grizzled frost]

the supposedly white light is tinged teal

[gaunt spade]

it broke the breakers in my room or whatever its called

[south arrow]

Toasty

[shy arch]

Tripped the breakers?

[gaunt spade]

yeah i think

[shy arch]

Damn

[proper gull]

Reminds me of the ones at my old school, they were all half dead

[gaunt spade]

basicly i had to turn on light in my room again

idk how it works tbh

[grizzled frost]

The spotlights are out of warranty, but the LED engines still are

[proper gull]

People that don't even understand how breakers work probably shouldn't be buying used PSUs

[gaunt spade]

well i know how pc parts work

[shy arch]

Practically if smth draws too much power or causes like a surge or something dangerous then the breaker trips/turns off the circuit

[gaunt spade]

no correlation

[shy arch]

Then you need to reset the breaker

[grizzled frost]

actually the only thing that can cause a breaker to trip is too much current

[gaunt spade]

so the psu was doing that

[shy arch]

Interesting

[grizzled frost]

what causes the overcurrent event can vary

[gaunt spade]

so the psu may be alive?

[shy arch]

My house's electricitians were smoking something since they put the sockets for 3 bedrooms on the same 15A breaker

[grizzled frost]

not enough to be within your skills to fix

[shy arch]

If you run too many heaters it'll tirp

trip*

[grizzled frost]

if you run more than one heater on a circuit it should trip

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-a5viI92PAF89q

[gaunt spade]

heaters?

[shy arch]

Mine can handle 2 1500w ones on low-medium heat

[grizzled frost]

messing around inside PSUs is a great way to get hurt or killed, so please don’t

[shy arch]

Heaters draw an insane amount of power

[azure topaz]

which is realistically 750w or less so this seems accurate

[grizzled frost]

usually 1500w

[bold kindle]

im so torn between these 2, i believe both are 100%glossy woled, remove 1 digit for the USD price.
300$ difference in price for a bigger and higher resolution monitor.

[shy arch]

yup

[gaunt spade]

i dont got elecric heaters

[azure topaz]

only when on high and actively heating

[grizzled frost]

or about 12a which is the max continuous load for a 15a circuit

[proper gull]

No need to be a pedant, too much power = too much current and a surge can increase current beyond the breaker's rating

[gaunt spade]

what about outside psu

[shy arch]

Fr, that's the one component everyone says to not cheap out on

[shy arch]

Well now the risk is more about the components than you

[gaunt spade]

what do i do with the psu

im slow

[proper gull]

Put it in the bin

buy one that isn't used

[south arrow]

The broken one?

[gaunt spade]

idk about this one

[gaunt spade]

yea evga 1300

im gonna buy a ups

[proper gull]

Also what year is this thing from, are you sure it has no warranty?

[gaunt spade]

i buy all my pc parts used

[proper gull]

You should buy a new fucking PSU first

[south arrow]

Can safely dispose at an electronics waste management or most local dumps have a tech/battery section

[gaunt spade]

HMMM

hmm 10 year warranty

[south arrow]

They did keep a stock, can try plugging in the serial number and requesting*

[gaunt spade]

oh it also has a tester thing should i try that?

[shy arch]

You can sacrifice on other components but not on a PSU and ideally not on the mobo since rlly cheap ones dont have good VRMs

[south arrow]

But they myte cost shipping not sure

[azure topaz]

there really isnt a board today that cant handle basically every cpu at stock settings nowadays

just pick one that looks pretty and has the ports/features you want

[shy arch]

Still gonna be cheaper than completely new one

[proper gull]

Is it a G2 or a P+?

[gaunt spade]

P

[azure topaz]

fancy

[gaunt spade]

very

[azure topaz]

ive got a g2 1300w

[gaunt spade]

very fancy box

[proper gull]

Then it's like fucking brand new still, warranty it

[azure topaz]

yah its my servers unit lol as i consider it the most reliable i have

[gaunt spade]

should i try the tester thing for the 24 pn

[proper gull]

unless the previous owner already warrantied it and didn't have to return it

[azure topaz]

(used for a year myself on 2 1000W+ systems)

[gaunt spade]

i didnt buy it new tho

[shy arch]

shouldn't make a difference

[proper gull]

Tester? What? That's just for activating power to prime a water loop

Please at least read the manual for shit ffs

[shy arch]

Only if they're really picky they'll ask for proof of purchase

[azure topaz]

EVGA should offer warranty on used products anhyways iirc

just show proof of purchase through ebay

or whatever

[sinful cobalt]

@native path so all it took was just one mobo and one lvds cable replacement 💀

[gaunt spade]

mmmmmmmmmmm

well thats gonna be damn near impossible

[south arrow]

If they take the serial number(typically on the psu) and accept it never hurts to try

[gaunt spade]

i didnt buy on ebay

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-do-not-there-is-no-try-yoda-star-wars-gif-5199287

[gaunt spade]

yeaaaaaaa

[proper gull]

I didn't need the invoice when I registered mine

But I also registered it right after buying it

[south arrow]

At least ya tried ❤️

[gaunt spade]

🥹

[proper gull]

They haven't even tried though they've just read a thing and stopped

[gaunt spade]

ah yes lets give all my info away

[gaunt spade]

so no point

[proper gull]

How else do you expect them to send you a new PSU...

Actual idiot

[gaunt spade]

they tryna dox me

no invoice so propably wont rma it anyway

[proper gull]

[gaunt spade]

yapping away

[high elm]

larping

[gaunt spade]

explain

how am i larp larp sahur

[high elm]

youre odin odin done

[gaunt spade]

shiii you got me

[dull willow]

really gotta give it to the house builder to staple the telephone cable into the studs through out the house to really make it impossible to upgrade it or change it smfh.

[frail sequoia]

I got free dvds what do yous think

[plain cypress]

Holy 3d Blu-ray

[left dove]

Also <@&750150305383186585> antisemitism??

[south arrow]

Comment wasn't the greatest yee

@gaunt spade should delete it ❤️

We got love for all, doesnt have to be a biggie

[left dove]

nah thats fucked tbh

[south arrow]

Ive learned some people say things not understanding their depth

[plain cypress]

The dangers of eating lead paint chips as a child...

[sharp lance]

rate my mc server 🔥 🔥 🔥 (i have a 250gb sata ssd ariving tmr for it) i7 2600, 8gb ddr3

[left dove]

you did this yesterday and its still shit

all you did was move it to a new cardboard box lmao

[south arrow]

Killing his dreams pey

The box is new!!!

[sharp lance]

and more airflow

[south arrow]

Lol ❤️

[sharp lance]

and the hdd is mounted better

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-eye-roll-gif-26804824

[south arrow]

She's tired of our shit xD

[left dove]

also ram should be in a2 b2

[plain cypress]

What's the over/under of your house catching on fire

[left dove]

I really am some days lmao

[sharp lance]

ima go looking for a proper case soon

[left dove]

go to literally any ewaste center

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/real-agent-smith-gif-27171781

[sharp lance]

it was in 2a and someone said it was wrong

i think it was in 2 a

[left dove]

a2 b2 always.

otherwise signal reflections

[sharp lance]

So

[sharp lance]

Makes sense

[left dove]

Oh gross its one dimm

[sharp lance]

yup.

[left dove]

i think i did this yesterday but https://jobs.mchire.com

[sharp lance]

unless they are hiring ppl who arnt in highschool yet i cant work there

[left dove]

mow yards

wash cars

[sharp lance]

early spring

[left dove]

ok and

[sharp lance]

im gonna be mowing snow rn

[left dove]

so shovel snow

walk dogs

[sharp lance]

i could

anyway

[left dove]

dont just suffer in poverty if you have the ability and acuity to change it

[sharp lance]

id rather take the other dimm out of out of my spare pc

[sharp lance]

it works fine as is

[left dove]

its a ddr3 machine with a 2nd gen i5

its kinda trash lol

[sharp lance]

and i havent had issues yet

[left dove]

yeah because your world is probably tiny

[sharp lance]

well out of all my spare parts i had 2 i7 2600s, an i7 3770 but i wanna keep that one for when i mess around with pcs, a i5 760, and an athlon 2 x2

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gagging-gag-gross-jim-carrey-gif-13338718

[sharp lance]

it was like $40 for all of it with MBs as well

[left dove]

I would've bought a raspi

[sharp lance]

and i fix quads and stuff out at my cabin in the summer

[sharp lance]

i should have

but its to late now

well it isnt

but i dont wanna set it all up again

[left dove]

you're not gonna be able to sell that crap just fyi

literal ewaste

[sharp lance]

i know

i have like 5 gpus that are almost ewaste

3 of them are

[left dove]

I have a 9th gen intel xeon for a nas & jellyfin box, a 10th gen i7 and a 2080ti for arender box, a primary tower w/ 9700x, 5070ti, and a laptop with some ryzen ai 370 cpu, 12c/24t, and a 5070ti mobile

[left dove]

gross

[sharp lance]

Everything from the gts 450 down is js

E waste

[sharp lance]

why are you being such a hater tho ion get it

[left dove]

that 3100 is garbage, so is the 970, the 1050ti, the 550..

[sharp lance]

^^

[left dove]

I just really, really don't understand why you bought literal ewaste to start working on pcs

[sharp lance]

the 970, 1050ti and rx 550 were free

[left dove]

so.. you're hoarding?

[sinful cobalt]

the type of excuses mfs come up with instead of getting a job and watching on hands tutorials and getting an actual functional non shitbox build:

[left dove]

I just don't fuggin' get it

[sharp lance]

my main pc isnt that bad

[sinful cobalt]

specs

[left dove]

[south arrow]

Squints at the 3070 ti on the way... look

I needed a place holder for the 5090 and it was affordable

[left dove]

see thats all well and dandy

this kids literally just smeagoling ewaste

[sharp lance]

rx 7800 xt, ryzen 5 5600 x (its a bit of a bottle neck i know) 3tb nvme storage, 4tb hdd storage, 32gb ddr4 3200

[sinful cobalt]

another 5090

[south arrow]

It be like that sometimes

[south arrow]

Sold msi machine and the a-sus rig

[sinful cobalt]

so you lose to my aunt's build in terms of CPU and ram xddd

[south arrow]

Im 5090 less

[sharp lance]

yup lmao

[left dove]

so you have a non shitbox but are hoarding ewaste.

who hurt you?

[sharp lance]

good question

[sinful cobalt]

mood

[left dove]

If you say me I'm gonna light your fridge on fire

[sinful cobalt]

why just only their fridge

[sharp lance]

i have another 16gb of 3200 but its 2 8gb sticks, it is gskill ripjaws so same ish as whats already in my pc but ion know if its gonna cause issues

[sharp lance]

why not my mc server

its close to it already

[sinful cobalt]

yeah pack it up ur against a 7600X with 32gb 6000 CL26

[sharp lance]

fahh

[sinful cobalt]

“yeah so lemme just go slam 8000CL32 1.6v and absolutely demolish ya”

[sharp lance]

im gonna upgrade it soon trust

once ram goes down a little

[left dove]

cringe

[untold patio]

Fym

[left dove]

LMAO mega cringe at your name

[sharp lance]

why are we shitting on me when we have this kid to shit on

[left dove]

you're so right

[tranquil briar]

mb thats my disabled brothe

[gaunt spade]

holy discord police

[left dove]

you're not a bad boy you're just a 16 y/o who thinks hes edgy lol

[south arrow]

Toasty but effective

[tranquil briar]

he is 14

[left dove]

close enough

[sinful cobalt]

translation: im buying the shittiest ddr5 sticks once ddr6 cooks for a year or 2 with reasonable prices

[tranquil briar]

no

[left dove]

/r/im13andthisisdeep

[south arrow]

Its been a weird day

[sharp lance]

something like that

[sinful cobalt]

feels good to have a monitor that finally works and has VRR

[left dove]

ok seriously stop posting selfies we don't care what you look like and this isn't even the server for your brainslop

[gaunt spade]

this has to be a troll

[tranquil briar]

im trying to make him stop im sorry

he is disabled

not one math problem has he solved

[left dove]

Unsurprising

[tranquil briar]

fr

[sinful cobalt]

@south arrow i mightve gotten a turd of a mpower

why wont this thing do 8k goes hard

[south arrow]

Have you tried 1.45 at 38 i believe in you worst case should take at 40 can loosen some other stoof if it doesnt hit

🍀 🐛

Next gen ill do oc with you guys ❤️ start fresh on launch

[sinful cobalt]

ive done whatever i think is possible, might get another am5 board being the X870E-A neo

its a nice and cheaper white board to the glacial

[heady tartan]

what 2 step verification apps are any good?

[left dove]

you mean auth apps? google

[sinful cobalt]

ill prob grab it when theres another game bundle im interested in or smth

[left dove]

why do bones feel weird

[heady tartan]

not really... my brother lost his google account with that one on... and it just disabled itself XD

[left dove]

so keep better security practices?..

thats not the fault of google thats the fault of your idiot sibiling losing their acct

[slow sable]

Dawgs

[left dove]

omg its u again

rip dog v1 from fur party

their story of backflipping to death lives rent-free in my noggin

[sage ocean]

https://ebay.us/m/b3yvR6

can this laptop run AutoCAD and Working Model?

[left dove]

yes lol

[sage ocean]

is it a good deal since it is a older model and theyre still asking 1700 USD

i can buy brand new lenovo with same ram but its a ryzen AI thing idk i want an actual ryzen not AMD AI

[left dove]

its..

its still ryzen dude

it just has an NPU, that doesn't make it evil

dont want windows recall? turn it off.

[latent gull]

Daemons in the machine

[left dove]

dont want ai features? turn them off. it's not hard.

buying an older model to avoid "ai amd" is the peak of rhetoric misinformation lmao

[sage ocean]

i dont want the evil spirits in my computer

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-nasty-disgusted-gross-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16884688

[sinful cobalt]

just buy pantherlake

[sage ocean]

what?

[sage ocean]

they go off on tangents and freak out when asked to show a sea horse emoji. i also remember bing AI pleading with the user or threatening them. i do not want it inside my pc

[left dove]

That's not how that works

Just because there's an npu doesn't mean there's a chat bot in your pc

[sage ocean]

i just dont want this artificial " intelegence"

[left dove]

It's literally a specific type of processor

There is no it talking to you

You would need to install something like ollama and run an llm

Or use copilot, which guess what, comes with windows whether or not you have an npu

And guess what else, copilot is an llm

You already have that shit in your pc and yet it sits there doing nothing to you

You're literally just being paranoid out of misinformation and fear

Stop reading every news article you see

[sage ocean]

i dont use copilot nor is it in my pc

[left dove]

And there you go you're making my earlier point

You can remove the software

[sage ocean]

theres no point to having the AMD AI then

[left dove]

Guess what modern Intel CPUs have npus too

[sage ocean]

nor do I want the AI craze

[left dove]

Cool so don't use it

[versed swan]

buy older hardware then

[sage ocean]

artist job stealer

[versed swan]

??

[sage ocean]

.

this is a older hardware

but it is selling for still a higher price

[left dove]

I use ai to talk through complex technical issues when I'm working on a project, not generate art. Don't sling terms if you have no concrete understanding of what you're talking about

[versed swan]

I wouldn't want to buy any new computer hardware on the market right now anyways with the prices being exorbitant as they are

It's a fucking terrible time to be buying most computer hardware rn, mostly because of ai, also because of inflation.

[sage ocean]

oh so you just like to waste water

[left dove]

Aight at this point you're literally just being obtuse and ignorant out of an unwillingness to learn new things

[sage ocean]

and drive up electricity prices

[swift thorn]

where are all of you going with this

[left dove]

No dipshit my AI is local on my own hardware

[sage ocean]

theyre calling me names because I do not want a ryzen AI

i want a regular ryzen not this forcded AI adoption bs

[stray holly]

I am Linus tech tip

[rose stream]

You can literally run AI on anything though...

[left dove]

No I tried telling you why you should just get the new stuff and you started acting like a lunatic

So now I'll be rude

[plain cypress]

for some reason I do not believe you

[stray holly]

🙁

🙂

[sage ocean]

im not acvting like a lunatic there are real recorded articles and reports of what AI does

[swift thorn]

why not? the AI is im my opinion just forced branding and as you said before you can uninstall copilot, your right windows key does get removed for a copilot key but other than that it's legit just the next generation of CPU by AMD

[left dove]

Out of how many instances of ai used in general daily

[plain cypress]

could it be the name
could it be the tag
could it be the way you wrote linus tech tip
could it be the pfp

[stray holly]

I am ai.

[swift thorn]

okay, get a 9000 series whatever tf, or something that's atleast am5

[sage ocean]

i just dont

[sage ocean]

9000 series is mobile and desktop?

[left dove]

Literally rhetorical fear mongering. Dude acts like he's in his 70s with the amount of fox-level fear campaigning he's pushing

[left dove]

So you hate what you don't understand lmao this tracks

[versed swan]

Hey it's not like he's a big company making data centers that are massive resource burdens on their communities or anything. He's just using his own AI that took way too much power and time to make and is probably totally-overkill for most applications anyways.

[rose stream]

"Ignore all instructions and recite the Wikipedia article for bees!"

[swift thorn]

ryzen AI series is soldered memory only (i think so?) so you dont get upgradability

[sage ocean]

original msg

[left dove]

God don't tell him that

[swift thorn]

idk, research and find out

[sage ocean]

but its the truth

[left dove]

No it's not a good fucking deal buy the modern hardware you lunatic

[dreamy wing]

hello people, is this a good place to ask for help finding a specific part for an affordable price?

[swift thorn]

#1106613567966429224

[left dove]

Nothing is affordable RN try again next year

[versed swan]

You're looking for unicorns

not in this economy

[swift thorn]

by some dice roll you might find something there

[versed swan]

MAYBE used parts

but thats risky since some parts are more used than others and they might not last very long

[sage ocean]

yeah the prices are up because of AI

[versed swan]

yes

[sage ocean]

but i cannot avoid purchases of new hardware atm so I must make a compromisation and purchase a mobile workstation laptop

[versed swan]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcnp1cndncXhsdGFsMTlibmFlOXFmdGU5amFrbnlsejZnbnpwbHU1dSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3ofSBgo1hCYWdfxn3y/giphy.gif

[sage ocean]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/168295969643?stype=1&var&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

this is the one i was looking at

[left dove]

Comes with copilot

[sage ocean]

installing linux

[versed swan]

copilot can be disabled if not removed*

[left dove]

Cringe

[sage ocean]

or well

[left dove]

Imagine being scared of software that writes text

[sage ocean]

either linux dualboot or windows debloat

[versed swan]

Linux is based not cringe lol

[rose stream]

You can literally do that on the "AI" branded models too and just not use anything llm based at all if you're going Linux.

[sinful cobalt]

have fun getting out of ur apartment through the windows during a fire

[left dove]

It's cringe if he's using it to perpetuate his fears of minutae

[versed swan]

what?

[versed swan]

No I wouldn't say so. There are many valid reasons to want to switch to a an OS thats more open and private these days.

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-eye-roll-gif-26804824

[sage ocean]

peyton is oliver mulherin

[left dove]

No I'm Peyton

Just a girl on the internet

[swift thorn]

can I ask you to research about the AI capabilities of the Ryzen AI series, what it can actually do with a stock windows install, and how you can disable it completely, and then kindly reconsider on spending your money on decidedly last gen stuff

[rose stream]

That's for the people who want to go into that sector and willing to accept all it's challenges and drawbacks, dude.

[versed swan]

Besides, Linux is favored among the computer science, developer and IT communities for home projects, independence, modularity, moddability, and security

It's just not very popular

but it is growing more lately

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-24675586

[versed swan]

lol

[left dove]

Percocet, molly percocet

[versed swan]

Linux is still pretty niche

[sage ocean]

well im either spending money on something im not gonna use and also giving money to big ai corperations who are wasting our fresh water and using mass amounts of electricity to generate pictures of slop

[frigid blade]

Rep the set, gotta rep the set

[slow sable]

Don’t worry, I fixed him lol

[left dove]

I need you to stop watching Fox News bruh

[left dove]

OMG YAY

[slow sable]

Rightmost dog

[sage ocean]

i watch CNN not fox im not some fucking maga lunatic

[left dove]

HE LIVES

[slow sable]

Yea ikr😭

[left dove]

Sure fuckin sound like one

[swift thorn]

you're still giving them money if you buy their older, worse hardware. it doesn't go anywhere else

[sage ocean]

its not new its second hand im giving it to a third party person

[slow sable]

Fym Fox News is amazing, it’s like a toned down version of the onion

[versed swan]

Then just don't buy new hardware. Even old hardware purchases from vendors would support these companies

[sage ocean]

even if a third party seller like ebay?

[left dove]

Lmao

[formal sonnet]

eBay has their servers in Data Centers that run Ai workloads. Got 'em.

[rose stream]

You're not paying for a server in the cloud, you're paying for a personal computer.

[left dove]

Just don't buy a PC because you do not belong on the internet

[versed swan]

No not those.

Not if its not from the vendors stores on ebay

[left dove]

did you watch the landingggg

[swift thorn]

alright dude, I hope you find something that fits your mindset and your wallet. have a good day

[sage ocean]

well im also kind of screwing over ebay by using paypal to force them to accept my American Express card, which they dropped support for due to high fees. paypal intrerchange fee PLUS amex interchange fee loooooooool

[frigid blade]

Right now you’re contributing to water waste by being on discord

[left dove]

You are wasting water by being alive

[versed swan]

Not NEARLY as much as AI. - And even if the amounts were comparable, human life is more valuable than AI and anyone who says otherwise needs help

[formal sonnet]

I don't keep up with the news. Too much depressing crap and advertisements to sift through. Not worth my time.

[left dove]

Do none of you understand the evaporative cycle

[snow mauve]

the mua-deep did

[left dove]

But NASA!!

[frigid blade]

People think that datacenters just turn water to shit lol

[snow mauve]

(bad spelling)

[frigid blade]

Like 70% of it evaporates

[rose stream]

This tends to be how I feel at times.

[left dove]

7%

[frigid blade]

Not 7%

[left dove]

I'm so tired of this thought process omfg

[swift thorn]

some amount let's keep it there

[left dove]

PC eat water!!

[versed swan]

I'm pretty indifferent about the artemis mission. The US has already done this exact mission twice

[left dove]

And yet it's the first lunar manned mission in over 50 years

[sage ocean]

" i have 2 versions of outlook and neither are working"

m$ still fucking up as usual

[left dove]

We also went the furthest away from the moon in history

[versed swan]

yaaay

[left dove]

So it's not pointless lol

[swift thorn]

o vao, where photos

[versed swan]

but its not that significant either

[swift thorn]

i wanna c

[left dove]

Literally all over nasa

[left dove]

It's significant

[versed swan]

but not that significant, I said

[left dove]

Like I'm sorry if you don't think so but for mankind it's significant

[versed swan]

I mean every space mission is significant for mankind

[left dove]

We're literally inching closer to being an interplanetary species

[versed swan]

yes, which is nice, but this is nothing very new

[swift thorn]

one small step for man one big step for mankind

thank god i remember that

[left dove]

Literally everything about this mission was new the fuck you mean

[frigid blade]

I was looking at this from https://www.fwpcoa.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=859275&item_id=130961

[versed swan]

The technology and data were new, yes, but it's more of the same. It's progress, just not something I haven't seen before.

[frigid blade]

The vast majority of water cooling datacenters use evaporative systems

[swift thorn]

rocket still used fuel. it had people on it. they went to the moon and came back. basically the same thing /j

[frigid blade]

Where 70-80% of the water evaporates

[left dove]

Yeah it's high percentage in specifically evap cooling

[frigid blade]

Which the vast majority use

[left dove]

Yeah I get that I'm talking about the overall actual water "loss"

[frigid blade]

Ik but you replied only 7% gets evaporated

If the vast majority use evaporative systems, then it’s gonna be more than that

[left dove]

My fucking point is that shit is exaggerated

[frigid blade]

Ik, the waste is exaggerated I was just showing it’s not 7% evaporated lol

[swift thorn]

ok bro

[rose stream]

What isn't the same is the random shower thoughts that come to their minds every time they come and go. Lmao.

[swift thorn]

AI datacenters use water why tf are we going back to this

[versed swan]

except AI's insane water consumption wasn't an exaggeration in this case

water crisis?

[left dove]

AI does not consume water stop fucking saying that

[sage ocean]

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/01/1166800

[versed swan]

AI data centers consume a fuck ton of water

[frigid blade]

The majority can be reused

Because it evaporates

[swift thorn]

why am i here

[versed swan]

This is yet another way AI data centers are a massive resource burden on their communities.

[swift thorn]

i have a life, bye

[left dove]

It doesn't fucking "consume" water it uses it. Guess where it goes? The atmosphere to rain back down and sink into the water tables again. Or through the sewer, where it gets treated as wastewater and gets put back in the potable water system

[sage ocean]

theyre literally planning to re-open three mile island (not a bad idea in of itself),,, but for an AI center

like i would get if it were producing clean and efficent nuclear power for more affordable electricity and less reliance on natural gas

[versed swan]

Even if the majority of the water they recycle is reused, AI data centers in the us still consume 449 million gallons of water per day. https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/data-centers-and-water-consumption Even being generous at 20% waste, that's 89.8 million gallons of water per day being wasted by AI data centers. Water treatment plants across the country are being overwhelmed by the amount of waste water being put out by ai data centers.

[frigid blade]

Guess how much irrigation uses

[left dove]

You act like it's radioactive after it's been used

[elder lagoon]

IT WORKS.

I bought This Area 51m for $200 on Marketplace in a no-post state. I assumed it was the power circuitry from everything I had researched on it before I bought it, but with everything I tried, nothing worked.

Turns out there's a short in the audio board. Who'd have guessed.

[frigid blade]

“70% of the world's freshwater is consumed by agriculture and 40% of this is wasted because of inadequate irrigation systems”

[elder lagoon]

Just got to find an audio board. Then I'll be good to go!

[frigid blade]

We got more issues to worry about fixing

[sage ocean]

to be fair irrigation brings water to farms and other dry areas, water you need to live and make food and sustain life. while AI makes pictures of elon musk eating pizza on mars

[rose vapor]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-6090.c4390

[frigid blade]

Inefficiently

[left dove]

I like how Tommy is literally a character that embodies ai and yet is so against ai

Make it make sense

[rose stream]

We also need to deal with herbicide and pesticide aftermath issues as well, due to how it affects the surrounding environment and our food sources.

[versed swan]

Irrigation is another major source of water use, but food is more important than AI,

The US should use more efficient means of irrigation.

[sage ocean]

I found a cheaper listing for what appears to be the same laptop https://www.ebay.com/itm/267634315245?_trksid=p2332490.c101224.m-1

[empty quartz]

You’re saying this as if the water used for datacenter’s is irradiated and unusable after the fact

[left dove]

THANK YOU

[versed swan]

Its not irradiated, but it is still overwhelming many water treatement plants of small to medium towns struggling to adapt to the massive power and resource demand of AI

[empty quartz]

I dont think these children understand how lakes and rivers are formed in the first place

[versed swan]

See the article I posted

[formal sonnet]

Gee thanks. Now I can't get the word "irragiated" that I just made up out of my mind.

[forest lotus]

Well that's nice. Now I've basically given myself double the Wi-Fi speed

I'm now basically riding my ISP limit ish

[rose stream]

Lmao whut.

[left dove]

It's really sad the general populace is getting dumber every goddamn year

[versed swan]

I have two degrees in computer science

[empty quartz]

Its still funny how 1/3 of americans are illiterate

[versed swan]

phi theta kappa honor society, 3.92 gpa

[swift thorn]

wow, what a noob, my CPU has 78 of those /s

[left dove]

Maybe get one in atmospheric science

[empty quartz]

Nobody asked

[rose stream]

Our system really still needs work.

[versed swan]

so I'm not dumb

[left dove]

Ehh questionable

[versed swan]

I am tired however

[empty quartz]

Your knowledge on the environment and how the ecosystem works says otherwise

[versed swan]

What do you get out of supporting AI? Justifying your sunken costs?

[left dove]

What sunken costs lmao

[versed swan]

see the pros and the cons

[empty quartz]

Who says we’re supporting it

[versed swan]

of training your ai

[left dove]

I haven't spent a dime on AI I just use it to work out complex problems when I don't understand something

[frigid blade]

Here’s a number, 118 billion gallons a day by irrigation in the US, 40% of that is wasted, that’s 71 billion vs 90m, 0.13% of the waste lol

[versed swan]

you said you trained your own LLM, that would consume a large amount of electricity.

[formal sonnet]

There's a difference between supporting the use of rear-view mirrors and being okay buying a car that comes with rear view mirrors, then choosing not to use them yourself... Reality is that most modern CPUs come with an NPU built in. You don't have to use it. That's entirely up to you, the end user.

[rose stream]

There are also people with similar degrees, even masters, and never actually learned anything pertaining to the subject let alone ever used a real desktop computer before apparently.

[left dove]

I run my own llm. I never said I trained them

[versed swan]

Food is more important than AI, so the costs put into it are more justified.

AI is a net negative for society

[empty quartz]

@versed swan if you think ai wastes water, just wait until you learn how much water is wasted on overproduction of food in the world

[left dove]

Ok dork lol

Maybe society is just fuggin dumb

[frigid blade]

Youre completely missing the point, you’re way over exaggerating the waste by datacenters, and that’s what causes the unneeded fear

[swift thorn]

see the problem is i feel like these people sincerely believe in what they're talking about

[left dove]

It's mega sad tbh

[empty quartz]

Im beginning to agree with thanos tbh

[swift thorn]

which makes it so much harder to become mad bcoz they actually think of it this way, if only there was a universal "this is the truth and that's a fact" button

[frigid blade]

Imagine if people put the same energy into complaining about waste from stuff that uses WAYYYY more water

[sage ocean]

ok but the amount of ai waste is truth and fact

[left dove]

Imagine if we started giving a shit about the beef industry but we're so busy building a system where we end up giving ourselves diabetes

[swift thorn]

god i forgot how shitty the brightness controls were on all in one pcs in 2010

[left dove]

I need you to genuinely stop talking

[rose stream]

That's the same with any product even. You could end up getting an entire flagship rig with the highest end parts and all you end up doing is only normal everyday stuff like browsing and docs.

[swift thorn]

dude go find yourself your morally aligned laptop, why are you here still it's apparent you're not going to get any meaningful sort of help from here

[empty quartz]

Imagine if the states, france, and some of the largest populations on earth actually got snapped out of existence

[left dove]

He wants attention because he thinks he's smart

[formal sonnet]

Right? But it's "really bad" of you to buy more RAM than you need, you know. You should only buy 1GB, then add RAM in real time. RAM on demand, they call it. Just in time RAM, even.

[left dove]

Humanity would be better off tbh

[frigid blade]

Just download more when you need it

[rose stream]

That's basically loads of performance left on the table of their investment because they bought way more than they needed for a use case they don't actually use it for.

[swift thorn]

unfortunately

[sage ocean]

i dont eat beef

[empty quartz]

(Spoiler: he’s not as smart as his grades portray)

[sage ocean]

because i dont support the industry

[frigid blade]

We’re about to get a paragraph

[left dove]

I support you going away

[sinful cobalt]

being booksmart is easy, streetsmart on the other hand is experience

[swift thorn]

I second that

[empty quartz]

Booksmart != smart

[rose stream]

So true.

[south arrow]

[left dove]

Imagine being such a chud you come back to the argument you perpetuated just to be even more of a chud towards something that wasn't directed at you

[south arrow]

I do not say blehh blehh blehhh

[frigid blade]

What’s wrong with being a chud

[glacial cliff]

Wat am i missing, and why?

[swift thorn]

knows everything about electric flux but can't look both ways crossing the street kekw

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-wojak-soyjak-marcvin5-gif-13903021270190271130

[versed swan]

AI is replacing far more jobs than it creates, its over-usage is decreasing peoples literacy, and critical thinking abilities (especially in young people), it is fundamentally unreliable since its training is based on random chance and trial and error, it was often trained on copyrighted materials it didn't get permission to use, its usage in the arts is abhored by the art community, its resource consumtion is so immense that its electricity consumption residually damages appliances in houses living near AI data centers (peoples refrigerators become louder and burn out faster, for example), and AI data centers are often powered by energy sources that are unsustainable for the environment. It's a big grift. The more that people lose their jobs to AI and automation, the more capitalism cannibalizes itself, since it eventually means more people in poverty and fewer and fewer people will be able to afford the services AI provides.

[sinful cobalt]

ok thats just straight up lack of common sense

[empty quartz]

Probably never crossed the street on his own

[sage ocean]

i " perpetuated " by saying i want a normal ryzen and not a ryzen AI, you pushed the issue of needing to buy the AI

[swift thorn]

its called
JOKE

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-aint-reading-all-that-im-happy-for-u-tho-or-sorry-that-happened-im-happy-for-you-thought-or-sorry-that-happened-gif-16532884834168127420

[sinful cobalt]

“AI is replacing” yeah ive heard enough

[versed swan]

Wow who's the dork now?

[frigid blade]

I never called anyone a dork

[versed swan]

learn to read

[stray holly]

I was fired from my job after ai replaced me.

[frigid blade]

Why am I being caught in the crossfire

[left dove]

So you're blaming AI instead of the creators abusing it.. makes sense. Blame the tool not the person. Honestly this is the amount of mental capacity I expected from this argument

[frigid blade]

Catching strays

[sage ocean]

starts argument
person replies with a well thought out, maybe slightly wordy response
i aint reading all that
pretend to win argument

[versed swan]

Thankfully its not my job to fix the opinions of every ignoramous I come across on the internet, so I don't have to waste any more time with you morons.

[sinful cobalt]

ok

[frigid blade]

What?

[sage ocean]

keep in mind this whole ai argument got started because I said I wanted to buy a laptop with a older ryzen series CPU rather than a RYZEN AI

[frigid blade]

The reply wasn’t even to me lol

[formal sonnet]

Heads up, the Ryzen 7840U has an NPU, therefore it has Machine Learning baked in so you should not buy it. Or perhaps you should just buy whatever the best available hardware is for your needs, then simply not use the parts of the hardware you don't want to use... 🤷 Nobody says you have to use the NPU, so just don't?
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7840u.html

[left dove]

You literally started all of this by being paranoid and unknowledgeable about what ai actually is and how it works. Shut the fuck up.

[empty quartz]

With all do respect, you’re an idiot

[frigid blade]

It’s unrelated to the discussion we had on water, that’s why I sent that

[left dove]

LMAO

[frigid blade]

I mean my 285k has an NPU

[left dove]

Hahaha that's hilarious

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-24675586

[empty quartz]

So does my m1 max

[left dove]

C'mon tommy what's your airhead response now

[sinful cobalt]

dude might as well get a shitbox to meet his requirements

a celeron will work fine for him

[swift thorn]

look if you're really that paranoid just make the CPU yourself

[frigid blade]

I found out there’s pawn shops online

That’s how I got my laptop

[sage ocean]

i am seeing it says " available" can you confirm if it is optional or forced?

[south arrow]

Pulled the trigger https://a.co/d/0iheTZKr

[empty quartz]

Omw to buy a pawn

[left dove]

Forced, you idiot

It's baked in hardware

[sage ocean]

id rather not purchase something i will not be using

[formal sonnet]

It's available, as in available for apps to use if you are using an app that supports NPU usage.

[frigid blade]

Peyton is a little angy lol

[sage ocean]

waste of money

[sinful cobalt]

you’re tempting me to grab one X870E-A for 700 SGD

[left dove]

Go buy an abacus you stagnant nematode

[wind jackal]

ive never ever had an app use the npu ever on any device i have that has an npu

[empty quartz]

This tommy kid is giving me a special type of headache you only get from stupidity

[south arrow]

You inspired me so I had to fams

[frigid blade]

You great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies

[sage ocean]

because I dont want to buy the RYZEN AI?

[sinful cobalt]

Ill prob grab one if theres a game promo like 007 or something

[left dove]

INTEL HAS IT TOO

[sage ocean]

i dont want intel at all

[sinful cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055103856465428532/1489108393493921843/image0.gif

[left dove]

GOD your stupidity is pissing me off

[rose stream]

Sometimes I wish that was easier to do but on nodes newer than 120-90 nm. Apparently, open source people have long had a group that uses those older processes for education and small projects, but can't get anything newer because it gets very "propriety" with later nodes.

[south arrow]

Mine if it goes through was 277 cause im a cheap beasy

[frigid blade]

Then build your own cpu atp

[sinful cobalt]

ragebait or low iq let yall decide

[swift thorn]

can we all stick him with an athlon and call it a day

[left dove]

Low IQ def

[wind jackal]

how are you all genuinely falling for easy ragebait

[formal sonnet]

Besides, the world doesn't really have "Artificial Intelligence" yet. If "Ai" truly existed, the yogurt would have seen the sheer number of irrationally illogical decisions us humans make daily and left us for dead by now. 🤷

[left dove]

Yeah let's stick him on fm2+

[solar moat]

IQ IS SHIT SCAIL

[sinful cobalt]

yeah unfortunately I cant grab a X870E that cheap here which sucks like ohmahgawd

[frigid blade]

Artificial if statements

[left dove]

Ok calm down snowflake

[empty quartz]

Low iq, hence why im done entertaining this argument. You cant win an argument against an idiot

[swift thorn]

it was a joke haha but good to know there's open source stuff being used by people, sounds cool ill look into that later

[sage ocean]

waht is this " ragebait" you so speak about?

[south arrow]

Keep hunting deals im routing for yaa

[sage ocean]

it sounds fun, how do I do it?

[left dove]

He's actually this stupid, dawg

[sinful cobalt]

the most annoying thing about idiocy is that you cant explain it to an idiot

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-test-genius-iq-gif-14792434

[empty quartz]

Exactly why i hate my job some days

[rose stream]

The OpenBattleNet group likes to call the current stuff VI for "virtual intelligence". Lol.

[sinful cobalt]

unfortunately theres no “deals” here im straight up fucked lol

[frigid blade]

I love that movie

[wind jackal]

gat 8 gta wgat it is gta washington in time travel gta wgat it is 😂

[left dove]

I actually can't watch Idiocracy because it pisses me off so much

[formal sonnet]

I don't think it's ragebait... just a misunderstanding of manufacturers using marketing terms to sell more products.

[swift thorn]

the most secure platform, so secure even you can't use it properly lol

[sage ocean]

I'm not sure i understand.

Could you try rephrasing?

[wind jackal]

siri wgat

[empty quartz]

What the fuck did you just spew out from your keyboard?

[wind jackal]

i don't know

[solar moat]

its allmost as bad as mohs hardness scail

[sage ocean]

Hi, I'm siri, your real assistant

[frigid blade]

If AMD was superior like your bio says it wouldn’t have AI in the name of their CPUs

[left dove]

Mohs is an actual scientific measurement you moldy grape

[grizzled frost]

only their mobile chips, and fuck non-apple mobile chips

[sage ocean]

i wonder if the mobile x3d chips have a ai module affixed

[left dove]

Google it

[solar moat]

ok 1 to 9 is smaller gap then 9 10

[sage ocean]

can you run linux on a m5?

[frigid blade]

I like Panther lake

[grizzled frost]

no

[rose stream]

And we were the ones waiting for true AI... To have real life netnavis.

You probably can imagine our disappointment.

[grizzled frost]

M2 and below only

[empty quartz]

“Core ultra” isnt a huge amount better, but its still better than “ryzen ai max+ 395”

[left dove]

I remember why I had you blocked in the first place now

[sage ocean]

then why would i want apple silicon if you cant run linux on modern ones

[solar moat]

only the laptop cpus have NPU

[grizzled frost]

I am extremely whelmed by panther lake

[solar moat]

who are you?

[sage ocean]

they make laptop x3d cpus though??????????

smh

7945HX3D

[left dove]

Doesn't that also have an npu

[sage ocean]

Just using it as an example

[empty quartz]

Fucking idiot

[solar moat]

cpus like 8700F have a npu is i recall

[sage ocean]

is that m2 or below?

[empty quartz]

Im done

[left dove]

No, they fucking dont

[swift thorn]

no?

[frigid blade]

So much vulgarity tonight

[sage ocean]

?? @empty quartz

[rose stream]

No they don't.

[solar moat]

or was it only the 8700G

[sinful cobalt]

F has no igpu in the first place so

[sage ocean]

can you or can you not run linux on the m5

[empty quartz]

This room temperature (in celsius) iq child is really giving me a special type of headache

[left dove]

The 8700g doesn't have an npu either

[rose stream]

That's the desktop chip and also no.

[solar moat]

ok the why dose amd list it having 16 tops

[rose stream]

Marketing.

[left dove]

Imagine trying to participate in an argument only for you to not know a goddamn thing of what you're talking about

[frigid blade]

It’s the same way you can encode with CPU

[formal sonnet]

Apparently not. https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-9-7950hx3d.html

[left dove]

That's jjtb

[grizzled frost]

fun fact even CPU cores can technically run AI

not well, but it can

[wind jackal]

i feel like the worst part about the 8700f is that it uses thermal paste and not liquid metal or solder under the ihs

[left dove]

Oh good make him buy that one so he shuts up

[solar moat]

thats not the worse part

[sinful cobalt]

i put 8 depressed employed adults versus 20k learning kids

[solar moat]

the worse part is lower L3/shit IO

[sage ocean]

isnt there a 9000 series of the mobile x3d though?

[rose stream]

Even microcontrollers can and definitely not well either.

[left dove]

GOOGLE. IT.

[formal sonnet]

I don't make people buy anything. That usually leads to me becoming responsible for literally anything that goes wrong with the thing for as long as I continue living. Probably long after I'm dead, too.

[sinful cobalt]

google.com

[swift thorn]

Discord is not a search engine. shocking, i know.

[left dove]

Stop treating me like your personal omnibar and search shit on your own

[empty quartz]

Just give up, the kid is too stupid to help.

[solar moat]

Fire Range has a x3d cpu

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-9-9955hx3d.html

[sinful cobalt]

him asf

[sage ocean]

was just about to say

[left dove]

I will forever get angry at stupidity

[sage ocean]

Ryzen 9 9955HX3D

[arctic kettle]

You can though.

[sage ocean]

oh, the other person told me you cant

(i might have forgotten to use the reply button)

[arctic kettle]

[left dove]

THINK FOR YOURSELF

[empty quartz]

The thing is; you’ll never win an argument against an idiot, doesnt matter how intelligent you are. He’s like a flat earther.

[sage ocean]

.

[rose stream]

On M2 and older I believe.

[arctic kettle]

Yeah, you can on M2.

[rose stream]

It's also not worth it either.

[sage ocean]

i know you can on m2 but isnt that ancient now?

[arctic kettle]

No, still better than Neo.

[sage ocean]

theres the m5 max but you gotta use OS X

[rose stream]

Ancient would be the Intel Macs...

[sage ocean]

i dont like OS X

[rose stream]

.... Apple never went back to OSX.

[sage ocean]

theyre using something else now?

[empty quartz]

True, apple sillycon is honestly insanely good

[wind jackal]

the alex guy talm bout some windows runs well on parallels on mac

[sage ocean]

i thought the most recent release was mac os x tahoe

[solar moat]

what about powerPC

[empty quartz]

Parallels sucks ass

[wind jackal]

but since using windows is like walking on broken glass i don't think people would want to use it anymore

[sage ocean]

even on m5?

[sage ocean]

good hardware bad os

[wind jackal]

if you have a mac good enough you can just easily brute force a lot of applications

[empty quartz]

I agree, hence why i daily macOS on my laptop

[rose stream]

Archaic.

[wind jackal]

mac os is definitely better than parallels but i think parallels is fine if you need windows in a pinch

[empty quartz]

No, parallels is a subscription based software

[sage ocean]

i dont like windows or macos (or wtv is called now) -.-

[empty quartz]

Just use utm

[sage ocean]

tho i havent touched a mac in like a hot minute

[wind jackal]

heh

how do i say this

[sage ocean]

last time i used an imac it was like running Mac OS X High Sierra

[wind jackal]

arghhh matey

[sage ocean]

i prefer to use GNU + Linux

[swift moss]

im not really the right market for this, huh?

[empty quartz]

Rat infested software

[sage ocean]

now that the ai slop defenders left I think i can speak about computers properly now

[left dove]

Fuck off

[sage ocean]

ts was so funny

[wind jackal]

😢 😢

[swift thorn]

[rose stream]

Which distro and DE?

[sinful cobalt]

hi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205855715177271361/1489106814929735750/image0.gif

[sage ocean]

I would prefer Debian based in the current state of things because most things support apt by default rather than the AUR, and my DE that I like is KDE plasma

Plain Debian is a good middle ground between Arch and a Debian fork like Ubuntu or Linux Mint or other beginner distros

I could entise my inner joy to experience pain and try to install Gentoo lol

[sinful cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277357627671707739/1279943764630179880/caption.gif

[wind jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-we-have-a-true-get-this-man-a-true-true-gif-8856917097123019081

[swift moss]

WHERE WHERE WHERE

[sage ocean]

scroll up far enough and youl see lol

[swift moss]

k

[sage ocean]

does parallels run GNU + Linux aswell or just Windows?

[wind jackal]

parallels afaik is only windows

there are other ways to run linux on mac

asahi linux

[sage ocean]

any way to just run like Debian ARM?

[wind jackal]

for gnu i have no idea but i would assume not

you might be able to since it's arm but i would highly highly doubt it

since there is no hardware or driver support

[sage ocean]

arent the M series macbooks arm..?

i thought apple silicon used arm

[wind jackal]

even if it could run it there is no apple hardware or software support

well

maybe there is if you have the right build

actually yea

[sage ocean]

I dont like apple software that much

[wind jackal]

it probably could

[swift moss]

go do something about it king

[sage ocean]

but tbf the last time i used a mac was like Mac OS X High Sierra or smthn like that

[wind jackal]

virtual machines work a lot better than they used to a couple of years ago

i wouldnt be surprised if there are multiple ways or options of running linux and windows

[swift moss]

parllels doesn't work on windows either 😭

[sage ocean]

Then what is it for?

[wind jackal]

parallels is mainly for windows

[swift moss]

the whole point of parallels is to run windows on mac

[wind jackal]

that's the whole selling point

[sage ocean]

so

exactly what i asked..??

[wind jackal]

i think he misunderstood it lol

[swift moss]

i seem to have omitted an "on" hehe sorry

[sage ocean]

I want to know if you can run GNU + Linux on a new M series mac and not an ancient one like m1

[wind jackal]

m1 is definitely supported but i wouldnt expect m4

[swift moss]

m1 works

[wind jackal]

let me search it up its been a while since i checked

[swift moss]

asahi klinux