tech-chat-1

[restive plinth]

Learn from Google!

[jaunty apex]

No

No don't, they might kill copilot altogether

[restive plinth]

Learn from Google regarding the aesthetics and implementation in any Operating System. Their implementation has been solid.

[tranquil wharf]

they can't say no if the upper management forces them to do it

[dusky spindle]

isnt that a good thing?

[jaunty apex]

Debated adding the kekw

[restive plinth]

Honestly, AI is quite useful. But the implementation has to be nice

[restive plinth]

lmao

Remember bard?

[dusky spindle]

true, copilot if you look at it has good planning but bad execution, really feels like someone is forcing you.

[jaunty apex]

No

[tranquil wharf]

I don't think I've ever even tried using copilot

[restive plinth]

The thing is, copilot is not needed everywhere. It has to be a different kind of integration. The new Notepad has "Writing tools" instead of Copilot. That's much better. What is the need of a "copilot" in a Notepad? Tools to improve text is fine. But Copilot?

[restive plinth]

Copilot in VS code is so damn useful. Helps me skip a lot of lines while typing code.
That's a good implementation. IT integrates so damn well into VS Code and works perfectly.

[jaunty apex]

If I wanted an AI text editor I'd be using Zen
Not that its on windows yet but

[restive plinth]

You can turn it off in settings. It's just one tap

[dusky spindle]

i mean yeah you got me there

[tranquil wharf]

well yea I use claude code

just not specifically copilot

[dusky spindle]

i use cline

[jaunty apex]

The fact I have to and it isnt a windows setting globally kinda peeves me

[restive plinth]

What I also meant by "Learn from Google":
Google recently added the "Ask Gemini" button to Chrome. But just right click it, and the option to unpin it is right there.
For Edge, turning it off will take you to the settings. From the settings, you need to have 2 more clicks to turn it off. That sucks. It should be one click turn off.

[jaunty apex]

At least in Firefox its a global setting. And one slider

[dusty torrent]

well, for the first time in 10 years I have switched teams from green to red. I purchased a 9700xt today and I will be glad to finally leave this mess that nvidia has created recently.

[restive plinth]

Notepad is an app in MS Store now, so it makes sense why it has a separate settings.

It also has more features like auto save, tabs, etc. So having a settings makes sense ig

[placid citrus]

Norway??? Ayo??

[jaunty apex]

But its literally a fucking Microsoft product, I don't have to set dark mode for every app

[restive plinth]

no but you can if you choose to

[tranquil wharf]

maybe hot take but personally I don't really see that big of an issue with some AI button/tab in things as long as I can just easily and intuitively disable it, never to be seen again

[placid citrus]

If I hadn't JUST bought a laptop a month or two ago... gruh

[restive plinth]

You have all these settings. You cannot put them in Windows settings

[jaunty apex]

Hell dark mode applies in all apps under LINUX and Microsoft can't do this for their settings and logins?

[restive plinth]

Uhh it happens automatically for all apps. But if you want to change that and make it independent, you can

[jaunty apex]

AI?

I mean the independence is a given there if there isn't a global windows setting for it

[tranquil wharf]

huh? I definitely don't want the global settings app to contain settings of every application. settings page for an application being within that application makes infinitely more sense to me

[restive plinth]

You can uninstall the copilot app and it will never disturb you. For AI buttons within apps, you can turn it off within the settings, or just never use them. It doesn't activate unless you specifically ask it to turn on.

[jaunty apex]

I mean for Microsoft products specifically. And the copilot features.

[tranquil wharf]

dark mode is a global setting because it's basically part of your system theme, it's not really application setting (unless you want to override per application)

[placid citrus]

OOF, if I wanted to match my current laptop specs (I'll give it to them, the processor would be better) the price for a framework 16 inch would be over DOUBLE what my similarly specced laptop cost... Definitely understand there's some premium and I got a good deal on my laptop but stiiiiill.... that was steeper than I anticipated

[restive plinth]

That's where Microsoft has gone wrong with the branding. All copilot is not entirely copilot. That's the confusion.
Within a notepad, the AI Copilot is for generating text, correcting grammar, shortening or lengthening text, improving the style, etc

The copilot app is for the Copilot chatbot.

[restive plinth]

There's a lot of new features, so it makes sense to have it per app. I dont want AI inside Notepad, but I want it inside VS code.

[tranquil wharf]

anything with the capabilities you mentioned is going to be MUCH more comfortable to use if you can give any of these instructions in freeform text, which already makes it a chatbot anyway

[jaunty apex]

Which is fair. I just want it to opt out in all apps by default with said theoretical windows setting. Allow turning on per app of course but

[tranquil wharf]

for example the coding assistants ARE chatbots, just with integrations to do stuff with your code directly

[restive plinth]

well yeah but having these settings is also useful (for people that use it)

[glacial cliff]

wats the safe websites to get windows license at?

[dusky spindle]

i think winkeys, im not sure though

[restive plinth]

One thing they need to do is probably add a question when you open it for the first time "Do you want the writing tools to be enabled"

[mellow sonnet]

you can get keys for free

[tranquil wharf]

are they? the underlying LLM can handle nuance from the text input, so it can essentially do a thousand different things to your text if you ask it. limiting it to a few predefined prompts is quite restrictive

[jaunty apex]

Hell I'd accept that tbh. Especially if they clarify what it does in the same prompt

[dusky spindle]

yea and they should also add a little grey text saying "This option can be changed later in settings"

[tranquil wharf]

if you only have these and one of them doesn't do exactly what you want, with text input you can just describe in a sentence what you want it to do differently. if all you have is predefined prompts, you're SOL

[restive plinth]

True
It would be good to have Both ig

I haven't used the AI features yet, so idk if a textbox exists or not
But it's nice to have them if I need it

[tranquil wharf]

yea both would be fine, especially if they use the same context so you can go to text input and that part knows what it just did before from a button press

[dusky spindle]

maybe what they should do is that when a user first launches copilot, then get a box which they can say how they want their ai to be, makes it more personalized

[tranquil wharf]

wdym "how they want their AI to be"

what does that even mean?

[jaunty apex]

I just don't want to feel like its even present for me ootb.

[restive plinth]

"Respond like Michael Scott all the time"

[tranquil wharf]

"call me master"

[restive plinth]

You can uninstall it easily. I wouldn't complain about that much yk
It's like one click

[dusky spindle]

like how they would like it to be, how chatgpt gives you the option in settings to be for eg. "give straightforward answers"

[placid citrus]

Jonsbo N5 case, says it's Micro-ATX but supports ATX PSU. So safe to assume that means my silly ass needs to buy a micro ATX motherboard if I want to use it? :/ Maybe a Fractal 7XL is better for me then after all? Building sort of hybrid NAS/Server thingy

[dusky spindle]

is micro-atx the max it supports or what?

[tranquil wharf]

well yea generally if it says it's micro-atx, that means it doesn't fit ATX

at least in terms of motherboard

[placid citrus]

It says so on the page but when I filter on the website it still shows the N5 so I'm a little confused, can't seem to find some proper info on it'

[tranquil wharf]

you could check if it gives exact supported motherboard dimensions there

and compare those to ATX standard size

[placid citrus]

Like when I google I find even eATX supported so I'm getting conflicting info

[tranquil wharf]

because EATX is not a standard per se, it's just a catch-all term for "anything bigger than ATX"

[dusky spindle]

go to a tech reviewer or smth, you can visually grasp the size ig

[placid citrus]

Ok so on a review I'm finding EATX, ATX, Mini-ATX, Micro-ATX

[swift thorn]

someone had a nas upgrade with the n5; idk if it was plouffe recently or the latest AMD ultimate tech upgrade winner, but you should be able to get some solid reliable info from that video

[placid citrus]

Yeah that's main reason I'm looking at it

I guess I'll rewatch the video ty for reminder

[rigid fjord]

eatx technically doesn't exist but it's been used as generalized term for any mobo over the size of atx

[placid citrus]

damn, he used mATX, so that gives me no useful info lol

[oblique jay]

Is it possible to get a chip replacement from intel even if Ive got the cpu from my mates prebuilt?

[rigid fjord]

the n5 is an atx case, it's the n3/n4 that's micro atx

[dusky spindle]

if he used mATX, did it fill the whole case or did it fill 3/4 or smth

[oblique jay]

Shits just constantly playing up, massive fps drops, crashes, freezes

[dusky spindle]

maybe if its under warranty

[swift thorn]

from the manufacturer's website it says upto eatx; my two cents is trust the manufacturer's website and then return it if it doesn't fit

[placid citrus]

speeding through to see

[rigid fjord]

if it's in the n5, no it won't, ther's going to be a fair bit of space left over

[dusky spindle]

yeah thats what i was going for

[placid citrus]

yep yep seems to be the case (heh)

[oblique jay]

I think I checked before, I dont think it is. It's 14700f and from what I can find it seems to be a known issue with mirco-code apparently.

[swift thorn]

if you have the receipt then yeah probably

[rigid fjord]

this is what it would be like using matx in the n5

if you was to use an atx instead it would be like this

[dusky spindle]

i mean, check intel's website for a replacement for this issue, they would probably provide a new one, otherwise if it isnt under warranty or not under any repair program then you have some bad luck

[dusky spindle]

yeah 'round 3/4

[rigid fjord]

"eatx support" which actually is ssi-eeb/ssi-ecb

[oblique jay]

Where specifically can I find that on their site? Havent had to try get a replacement before.

[dusky spindle]

just search, "intel 14th gen micro-code repair program" or something along those lines ig.

[native path]

@sinful cobalt new tables are done until I get cable management racks and stuff

[rigid fjord]

you're not really saving anything going matx with the n5 tbh, the extra slots will be more helpful with an atx board and using a hba board or a few sata expansion boards instead

[sinful cobalt]

i have a working monitor but not working VRR

[dusky spindle]

yeah, specially with a nas if your mobo doesnt have much nvme ports or sata ports you can connect pcie expansion cards

[placid citrus]

are all IronWolf Pro NT filled with Helium or whatever these days? Like if I buy 4x 8TB instead of 2x 16TB? I just seem to recall reading something about a 10tb and up thing

[native path]

whats vrr

obviously im some tech genius but just for the people unaware in this channel

[placid citrus]

gsync/freesync "Variable Refresh Rate"

[native path]

ah

[rigid fjord]

that would be dealt with any bios updates for the mobo you're using tbh, and the ones that was affected really was cpu's with a tdp higher than 65w

[placid citrus]

Having a cheap-ish tablet to have as a "control panel" for a home server/plex/NAS, useful?

[dusky spindle]

ive been having some issues with windows, when starting it doesnt let me click any apps until i do ctrl + shift + esc to then restart explorer, is it just windows or is there smth really wrong

[dusky spindle]

probably, if its touchscreen and has hdmi

[placid citrus]

I just thought maybe it's useful to have something like that that can just be nearby the physical server for sort of "quick access/checkup"

[rigid fjord]

afaik, they should be, also the tablet would be more for remote access which if you're using the likes of truenas/proxmox or similar, has a web access gui @placid citrus

[placid citrus]

HDMI? I mean it would be connected over internet I would assume

[placid citrus]

yeah definitely remote but like, physically close

[dusky spindle]

i thought he meant something connected to the computer directly as a gui type os

[rigid fjord]

not needed, you can run many nas's and servers headless

[placid citrus]

ahh yeah no it'd be headless as rauko said

[tranquil wharf]

you can still use it for the web frontend though

[rigid fjord]

not needed, quite literally has a web page gui

[placid citrus]

the only case I'd consider actually having GUI and stuff setup is if I want to also use it as a living room gaming couch gaming thing

[tranquil wharf]

but there's no need for it to be connected

[dusky spindle]

oh

[placid citrus]

Which might be part of the plan but that's for future me to figure out

[dusky spindle]

wait i think then i can convert my old chromebook to a server

[placid citrus]

plex has web gui, truenas too as rauko said, literally just a "control panel" dedicated device or something idk

just a thought that popped up

[tranquil wharf]

server, sure, but for NAS I doubt it has sufficient IO

[dusky spindle]

yeah, it only has 2 usb ports

[rigid fjord]

for a nas or server you can either ssh in to access it, or use a web access/page gui

[rigid fjord]

proxmox and hexos also tbh

[tranquil wharf]

web ui for IPMI kind of stuff is pretty cool, wish more boards had that

updating BIOS by drag&drop of the bios image into a web ui is pretty convenient

[placid citrus]

If I wanted to use the system as both a living room couch gaming thing but also NAS/Plex server, do you have any recommendations or maybe a "don't do that"? I have a 4070 that's gonna just sorta be left over if I don't put it in there. Planning to put either 5600X or 5800X in as CPU

[dusky spindle]

charge your tv is probably a phrase i have never heard

[tranquil wharf]

depends on your budget really

[placid citrus]

also looking at 8TB IronWolf Pro NT as they seem the best price per GB without going as high as 24/28TB which would be way too expensive for enough drives for data parity and such

[dusky spindle]

nope i have not

[placid citrus]

Well the budget is I have everything except case and HDDs, the CPUs and motherboards I already have, as well as boot drive and the GPU

[rigid fjord]

definitely don't do that, it be wiser to have the nas/plex server separate from any gaming use

[dusky spindle]

for hdds i suggest some wd red plus or seagate, their reliable, specially for a nas

[tranquil wharf]

but yea for NAS you want to focus on stability. I can't think of a solution that would work well for both NAS and gaming purposes at the same time

[rigid fjord]

you can make use of remote gaming when it comes to steam for example, there's also remote pc access via proxmox and other bits

[abstract wigeon]

new pixel 9, set battery limit to 80, worked for a day, now its charged up to full

[dusky spindle]

or you can use sunlight and moonlight to stream from your main pc if you have one

[rigid fjord]

i can, but that means remoting in to the gaming pc

[oblique jay]

No clue what the problem is then. Before I updated bios a couple days ago I was getting auzio buzzing / freezing and crashes on stuff resulting in powering off/on to fix. I havent had one since bios update (yet 🤞 ) but getting frame drops in games now that I shouldnt be getting them in at all

[tranquil wharf]

I've encountered battery powered monitors before, but I don't think I've seen battery-powered TVs 🤔 I'm sure it is a niche that exists but definitely not something you'd necessarily encounter by keeping up with tech

[oblique jay]

But as far as I can remember, before swapped to the 14700F from the 13600K I didnt have these problems.

[rigid fjord]

you might find the frame drops happen because some kind of background program/task load up happening, which sometimes can be sorted with a few command line tweaks

[oblique jay]

afaik nothing is open

I mean I got the 14700f off my mate for 150 and sold the 13600k for like 165

[rigid fjord]

anything "open" is a foreground program, not background

[placid citrus]

I see I see. Would it be useful to still have a dGPU like the 4070 for the PLEX part of the server or is the 5600X or 5800X enough for the transcoding or whatever? I've only ever run the plex media server on my gaming PC before so never given it any thought

[grizzled frost]

14700 is a bit better than the 13600

[oblique jay]

I mean I researched and I was under the influence that it is better.

[placid citrus]

Yeah I'm looking at 8TB IronWolf Pro NT, best GB per currency before going as high as 20TB which would be way overkill and too costly since I'd want at least 4-6 or even 8 drives total for RAID/Redundancy

[oblique jay]

I didnt just upgrade because it's an "i7"

[rigid fjord]

if you've paid for plex, then yes, it's way better for the transcode, but tbh you could just use 10/20 series nvidia for that instead, hell even 30 series nvida if you want something newer

[oblique jay]

Worthwhile doing?

[rigid fjord]

it can be yes, some of it can sort out micro-stutters that happen

[placid citrus]

Even to the point where it's worth just selling that 4070 and buying that 10/20 series? I have wanted to acquire a 1080ti founders just for a collection piece so.... yeah?

[oblique jay]

What do I need to do?

14700f not 14700

[native path]

@sinful cobalt now my 3rd monitor isnt connecting gg time to get the oled

[rigid fjord]

alot of googling tbh, or wait a bit and i can dm a list of some command lines you can use, there's also some registry tweaks that could help

[oblique jay]

Yeah sounds good 🫡

[placid citrus]

Still need to decide whether I use the 5600X or 5800X for the server, then... I guess I could list both for sale and keep whichever isn't sold first

[native path]

5600x me thinks

it feels more power efficient (dont quote me on this im talking out of my ass)

[rigid fjord]

because you plan for plex, the 5800x

[placid citrus]

Ty, will do

[rigid fjord]

eh, not really, around the same power draw as the 5800x would be

people see the tdp and assume that's what power it uses, it's not

[placid citrus]

So, 1080ti, 5800X, 32GB 3200MT/s, forgor MOBO, Jonsbo N5, 4-8x 8TB IronWolf PRO NT, sounds pretty good. 650wPSu enough surely?

[rigid fjord]

i would suggest using jellyfin instead of plex personally, especially with the extras you can run for it

[placid citrus]

nvm I have a 650W

[tranquil wharf]

people are also comparing X vs Y at max load. when for efficiency for a given task, you'd have to compare them at the same load

[rigid fjord]

sounds good to me, but like i said, for anything newer, don't need to go above 30 series for plex/jellyfin

[placid citrus]

I'll keep that in mind, Plex only because that's what I've already used but I'm open to alternatives and have heard of jellyfin before and considered but not looked deep into it

[rigid fjord]

radarr/sonarr/seerr are some of the extras you can run alongside jellyfin

[south arrow]

Me every time I see intel pushing 10-15% at 220w+ vs amd at 170w

[placid citrus]

I think looking more into software has to be a later project when I have the system built tbh, too much to plan ahead right now

[azure topaz]

annoying to setup though, also should use a VPN

[placid citrus]

I do appreciate the enthusiasm

[rigid fjord]

gives you a good chunk more functionality over plex, even intergrating the ability to download films/tv series on the go

[placid citrus]

Mullvad my GOAT I will do this too if I recall

[native path]

could just send a docker compose

[azure topaz]

if you’re downloading erm, linux iso’s you basically need a vpn

some isps don’t care but still risky business

[tranquil wharf]

I looked into the arr stack at some point but I'm way too opinionated on how I want to organize and choose things to ever use it

[placid citrus]

dw I keep my Linux ISOs out of the prying eyes of ISPs, connected to VPN even on my laptop

[rigid fjord]

well, america for sure vpn it all, elsewhere in the world, it's a coin flip

[iron glen]

i hate this cable turns out

[azure topaz]

it’s not that bad

[placid citrus]

they are bitchy where I live I've heard but not like HUGE on it either

better safe than sorry

[azure topaz]

my arr stack pretty goated especially since i have 8 users on my setup

[iron glen]

all the wires are twisted together and when i try to untwist them they break off

[azure topaz]

no manual user requests (contacting me) and i don’t have to find them

[native path]

im using this, no seer cause just me and my brother and no flaresolver cause idk how to get it to work

[azure topaz]

flare solver pretty easy

[distant frigate]

Awesome portable charger

20,000 mAh

[azure topaz]

+jfin in a separate ubuntu instance+proxmox+truenas in proxmox for share

[native path]

i just moved 2 tables into my room

[tranquil wharf]

nice

[native path]

thanks

they were free, $50 shipping but it is what it is

[distant frigate]

Not sure why everyone just doesn’t buy these

20,000 mAh is like so much

[native path]

powerbanks, yes people buy them

sometimes u dont want 20,000mAh because they are so big and bulky

[distant frigate]

True it’s definitely bulky

[native path]

i have a 20k in my tech pouch and a smaller 5k magsafe one in case i need it

[tranquil wharf]

I bring a fully charged 20000mAh with me at all times unless I'm on foot without a backpack

[odd marsh]

nice speakers

[distant frigate]

I had another one that was 20,000 mAh and it was all metal and it was even more bulky

Well more heavy

[native path]

thanks someone recommended them to me i wonder who it was

one downside to these new tables is somehow my 3rd monitor isnt being detected anymore

[distant frigate]

What the hell there’s a 50,000 mAh portable charger too

[odd marsh]

ah damn that sucks

[distant frigate]

Two USB-A ports and one USB-C port

[native path]

its an excuse to upgrade my main monitor

[odd marsh]

real

[native path]

if this is still here in like 3 months im getting it

[tranquil wharf]

what model is that

[native path]

edifier m60s

in purple bec its my fav color

[tranquil wharf]

ah. I have audioengine a2+ which look kinda similar

[native path]

hold on they do look similar

[oblique jay]

I think this system is completely fucked

Loaded a project in FL Studio and it's just struggling to run it entirely when before it was flawless

So not actually sure what my options are.

[rigid fjord]

i have an anker ones with about the same mAh battery but also has something like a 65w PD

[valid garden]

lmao I got scammed and that RX 580 died
SO
im not giving up on my armor OC 580. The Armor OC and GAMING X 580 have the exact same PCB so if I swap the gaming X's thermal components such as the cooling plate and tha acellero III onto it in theory the VRMs shouldnt overheat much

[oblique jay]

@rigid fjord Is it possible to pinpoint what may be the problem on my system? Super stressful that I havent been able to figure it out.. If it's the cpu then Im more than happy to go replace it but Im just confused as fuck

[valid garden]

reinstall windows

[oblique jay]

Seems annoying. I dont wanna lose the shit Ive got on here

[valid garden]

backup your data

[oblique jay]

Tried once before and it indeed did not work and I lost everything

[valid garden]

replace thermal paste if its old and crusty your CPU might just be suffering

also was it a sudden drop or was it gradual

[oblique jay]

Its new-ish (to me), I bought it off my mate a few months back. Thoguh when he had it he had problems too, like it was running super hot

[rigid fjord]

it's possible, but a long list you can work through til you find out the exact point

[oblique jay]

before it was crashes / freezes (like the audio was buzz and screen freeze), I havent had it since I updated bios but now getting frame drops in roblox out of all things (20-30fps from 200++), and then when I was trying to run an FL project, that was just running like complete ass

[rigid fjord]

this in itself could be the main issue, it could be slightly degraded

[merry nest]

oh damn resident evil 9 is optimized optimized

the graphics are amazing

[oblique jay]

I mean could possibly have been a shitty chip to begin with? He had a pretty decent cooler. He was using a noctua cooler that was like £60+, cant remember the model of it.

But his chip was getting quite hot even with that, playing cod on low-mid graphics

I havent noticed hot temps when checking so not sure

[valid garden]

what CPU is it

oops

[oblique jay]

14700f

[valid garden]

I misread LOL

[oblique jay]

Ah lol

[rigid fjord]

one thing to check first then, power draw and thermals when under a good load

[valid garden]

whats the cooling solution

[oblique jay]

Mine currently?

[valid garden]

what cooling does it have is it like a big air? aio? small air?

[oblique jay]

thermalright peerless assassin

Was fine on my 13600k

So cant imagine it should be an issue for this chip

[south arrow]

I forget what F stands for. But if in bios you can disable multicore enhancement you'll save 10c ish and maybe lose 5% max performance

[rigid fjord]

means no igpu

[oblique jay]

Tempted to just buy a 13600k back or some shit and get rid of this garbage

[valid garden]

WOW this acellero cooler with the gaming x face plate is working wonders

1366MHz core 1750MHz vRAM, 44 degrees, before with the stock cooler the vBIOS would crash for saftey

[south arrow]

12000-14000 series intel are pretty wicked

But yeah they come oob pretty toasty

A few tech heads have been preaching it should be disabled by default, but tbf it is technically within its 95c tdp. So I get why mobo manufacturers dont

[oblique jay]

Any recs what I can really do in this situation? Pretty sure Ive done all the updates I can on gpu / bios

Cant imagine its a gpu issue anyway

[south arrow]

This 1 setting

[rigid fjord]

tbh, 14th gen just ain't worth it

[south arrow]

Once set to disabled in bios save and quit

Or drop watts by 40 easy cooling not alot of loss

[oblique jay]

It's recent issues though which is why Im confused. I had the chip for months with no problems

Its just a recent issue like last 6 weeks ish

[south arrow]

On pl1 and pl2*

So those 2 options or well can also limit to a set thermal point like 85 or 75 in bios and itll throttle itself

So 3 options any 1 option should do

[oblique jay]

I dont think thermals are the problem

[south arrow]

My mistake i only came in here at this point

If a new cooler check for the plastic on the copper. Ill backread

[wild basin]

Can yall help me find the right pads to short to clear the cmos?

For the life of me i cant figure out which ones is it

[oblique jay]

Nah my thing is fine

Plastic always off

[south arrow]

Your battery appears to be out ❤️

[oblique jay]

Just loaded that said project that wasnt working afew mins ago again and it worked fine this time

[south arrow]

Its clearing rn, need to put the battery back in to its plastic lock mechanism carefully at an angle you'll see the 2032 battery*. Then upon boot memory training/cpu configuration myte take 5 minutes or so

[oblique jay]

So Im just baffled why one moment it works then the next its being stupid as fuck

[native path]

"I have no clue how people get so easily scammed on ebay is it not that hard to check shit"
-general chuckles

im glad i remember that

[vast otter]

It's not a very good example of humanity when this is one of the top searches.

[rigid fjord]

none of the pads there, it will be a specific 2 pin header on the mobo

also fuck you warshit

[wild basin]

Figured it out already, gigabyte wont show the schematic on their website and god knows they are too greedy to just put a manual for that kind of stuff in the box

[rigid fjord]

ffs, no it's not duplicating you fucking idiot bot

[valid garden]

the funny thing is I did check it

scammed was a strong word

[rigid fjord]

because the bot is a fuckwit

and the likes of this also @oblique jay

[oblique jay]

Whats this 😬

[rigid fjord]

memory mitigation, can help with some issues

there's even command line codes to do tweaks for amd or nvidia gpu's

[south arrow]

I never buy from somone with 0 listings/reviews unless its clearly a real person and item

And never from China cause they getcha on the they accept returns

But the post office is gonna charge a leg so if its faulty or inaccurate your burnt

[rigid fjord]

first part of this is for registry editior, second part is the same but as a power shell command line

@formal sonnet iknow you said about setting your page file up to be 1gb minimum with up to half you total ram amount as the max
this is a powershell line command to do the same, just would need to change the max size

powershell "Disable-MMAgent -MemoryCompression"
wmic computersystem where name="%computername%" set AutomaticManagedPagefile=False
wmic pagefileset where name="C:\\pagefile.sys" set InitialSize=1024,MaximumSize=32768
powershell "Get-NetAdapter -IncludeHidden | Set-NetIPInterface -WeakHostSend Enabled -WeakHostReceive Enabled -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue"
netsh winsock set autotuning on
bcdedit /set disableelamdrivers Yes

[south arrow]

If you have the extra ram space not being utuilised cant hurt. Increments of 2mb per hugepage, keeping a few gigs free for the os (1GB is 1000MB)

[tranquil wharf]

yea I wouldn't run like a million line of config changes you don't exactly know what they do

[rigid fjord]

true, but you can have it set to run alongside the ram you have already with the pagefile, as that's where windows essentially holds info for programs that's been closed down and in anticipation of you re-opening said program again

[lapis talon]

Glad you asked dawg

[rigid fjord]

cache, ram, ssd, hdd

optionally optical drives also

[placid citrus]

ding ding ding what about cmos or does that go under cache

[tranquil wharf]

cmos, bios and a crapton of firmware storage chips

[placid citrus]

like how deep are we going

[lapis talon]

Well yes, I'm just surprised that there's a question like this

[rigid fjord]

essentially cache

[placid citrus]

yeah that's what I was kinda thinking, but bios is a good point

[tranquil wharf]

I wouldn't call CMOS a cache

[rigid fjord]

though it's an eeprom that gets updated

[tranquil wharf]

CMOS keeps configuration. configuration storage is almost never considered cache

[placid citrus]

add it to the list then I suppose, cmos, bios, hdd, ssd, optical, ram, firmware storage chips

[lapis talon]

I might finally be able to learn about RAID storage

[placid citrus]

whooo

[lapis talon]

Was always curious, but too lazy to look into it

[rigid fjord]

closer to an mcu for cmos

[lapis talon]

What's the m? Guessing CU stands for control unit?

[rigid fjord]

that's just an array of drives as a storage set in specific ways and amounts

[rigid fjord]

micro/mini

[lapis talon]

Still don't understand what that means 😭

[lapis talon]

Ah

[rigid fjord]

raid = redundant array of individual drives if memory is correct

[tranquil wharf]

multiple physical drives combined to be used as if they were a single drive

[rigid fjord]

so a collection of drives set in a specific way to act as a single storage point

[lapis talon]

Computer Science is my thing, but last year during my Cambridge IGCSE (not really IGCSE, it was GCE) exams, I managed to get 15 free marks even though I didn't answer that one question lol

[lapis talon]

Yup

[rigid fjord]

there's also jbod, but that's Just a Bunch Of Drives of random sizes combined together as a single storage space

[lapis talon]

Ohhh

[lapis talon]

That's cool

[tranquil wharf]

though paradoxically, RAID0 does not provide the R part

[lapis talon]

Is it possible to do that with NVMe M.2s?

[rigid fjord]

yeah, it's essentially the dumbest one in raid terms

[rigid fjord]

yes

only optical/removable media you'd never set up jbod/raid with

[placid citrus]

I guess that's what the 0 is saying idk lol

[lapis talon]

I could use that, but sounds like there might be some big disadvantages in the long run

[lapis talon]

Oh

Well uhhh

What if the generations are different

[tranquil wharf]

generations? 🤔

[lapis talon]

I've got two SSDs lying around, Gen3 and Gen4

[rigid fjord]

as long as they're the same capacity, pcie gen shouldn't matter

[tranquil wharf]

in theory probably works but the gen3 would be a bottleneck

[placid citrus]

What if I put 2x 9100 Pros 4TB in Raid1

[lapis talon]

Both are 1tb, but they're like 932gb and 918GB

[lapis talon]

Rich

[rigid fjord]

the dumb part about raid 0 is that if a drive dies, you lose EVERYTHING

[fallow yacht]

get 'em he has ssd

[jovial swan]

Fellas, what do i do? My pc just had a BSOD. All i did was mess with the Nvidia app Tuning

[jovial swan]

Ive turned off the tuning now, idk if it will fix it

[lapis talon]

This don't help much without the error code

[lapis talon]

Oh that makes sense

[placid citrus]

I bought 2x 990 Pro 4tb + 2x 9100 Pro 4tb when I noticed they were underpriced, got lucky with the timing and saved some money since I was planning to build a PC soon anyway (Building tomorrow hopefully) but I obviously don't need 16tb storage in my main rig when I'm also building a 32tb or whatever NAS

[rigid fjord]

then you have 4tb total capacity and it's got another drive mirroring it for rednundancy of the data

[lapis talon]

You answered your own question dawg

[tranquil wharf]

if it doesn't keep happening, not a big deal

[placid citrus]

well yes but also waste of money surely lol

[jovial swan]

It didnt give one, PC screen just went black, and then rebooted.

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[rigid fjord]

getting a gen 5 drive is just a waste of money to begine with

[lapis talon]

Sheeesh

[tranquil wharf]

put them in the NAS and have your NAS contain both an HDD and an SSD pool

[placid citrus]

Considering selling two of them, though, either at my buy cost or slightly above idk

[rigid fjord]

and he never sees the speed from them because he's using it for gaming

[placid citrus]

🙃

It be like that man I saw big number

[lapis talon]

If I were to buy 4tb SSDs and sell them in my country, all I'd get are the laughing reactions on Facebook because people here are just that dumb and think the drives are priced absurdly

[tranquil wharf]

hey at least I think my use case can actually benefit from the gen5 speeds

[rigid fjord]

stupidly saw the sequntial speed and thought you'd be seeing that all the time

[lapis talon]

Id take one at buy cost if I hadn't gotten my 2tb drive recently lol

[tranquil wharf]

considering I'm frequently loading like 30-50gb LLM models from disk into vram

[placid citrus]

Probably yeah

[lapis talon]

lol

[placid citrus]

buy cost was already high just fyi lol, like 583.25eur (6500NOK)

[rigid fjord]

it can, code compiling also benefits from the speed and cache, as well as video editing and 3d rendering does

[lapis talon]

Oh yeah that's a lot

[placid citrus]

25% VAT included ofc, and Norway so smaller market higher prices

[lapis talon]

I saw a 990 Pro for like $380 USD 3 months ago

Decided to get my MP600 Pro XT for $180 USD instead

[rigid fjord]

@lapis talon the simplest image to cover raid

[lapis talon]

Whewww

[tranquil wharf]

I've been considering grabbing a 9100 8tb for 1k eur, considering only one place here has it at that price and elsewhere it's waaay more expensive

[placid citrus]

they went up in price a lot but then suddenly stopped for a bit and I was like "huh, but they're still going up just not at this vendor...." so I bought some, then saw the 9100 Pros seemed like they should be more expensive

since they were the same price, 6500 NOK/ 583eur

[lapis talon]

Does higher number mean more drives?

[tranquil wharf]

no

[lapis talon]

Oh

[rigid fjord]

raid 5 has a redundancy to it with the ability to lose 1 drive and still maintain all the data, raid 6 does the same but allows for 2 drives, and you can do raid 5 with a minimum of 3 drives

[lapis talon]

Wait then what's the difference

[rigid fjord]

it can

[tranquil wharf]

redundancy

[lapis talon]

Oh that's neat

[rigid fjord]

it really depends on what raid you're using

[tranquil wharf]

I mean it can mean a higher minimum number of drives

[lapis talon]

Does setting up raid3 and raid5 have different requirements?

[tranquil wharf]

raid 3 isn't really a thing that is done anymore

[lapis talon]

I'm just using that as an example lol

[rigid fjord]

like raid 10 requires 4 drives minimum because your's doing raid 0 first then raid 1 after

[lapis talon]

Sounds like a lot of work

But isn't RAID what a NAS uses though?

[snow mauve]

sup brosef

[rigid fjord]

nas's can use many forms of RAID yes or it can use JBOD

[lapis talon]

Holy

Sounds like a whole new rabbit hole

[tranquil wharf]

the differences in general between different raid types are:

1. how likely it is that you have data loss if a specific number of drives fail
2. read and write speeds
3. speed of restoring after a drive has failed
4. minimum number of drives to even use it
5. available storage for use
   and choosing one is based on which tradeoff you go with between these

[rigid fjord]

JBOD is the more jank form for doing a nas

[lapis talon]

So depends entirely on your needs

[rigid fjord]

to this question, yes it will differ, but raid 2 and 3 are basically dead as a form of raid use

[lapis talon]

Ouh

[valid fiber]

never even heard of them before

i use a raid 0 in my PC

[lapis talon]

Bold

[rigid fjord]

raid 2 = 4 drives for storage + 3 drives for parity
raid 3 = 3 drives for storage + 1 drive for parity

[valid fiber]

i just need a big drive and that was the easiest way to do it

[rigid fjord]

i would never do raid 0 on it's own

[tranquil wharf]

same

[rigid fjord]

then get a larger drive, that's easier than doing raid 0

[valid fiber]

4 sata drives with 1.2 tb

[tranquil wharf]

raid0.... across 4 drives? yikes

[rigid fjord]

raid 1 is the minimum raid setup anyone should do

[rigid fjord]

this is dumb for the cost a 4tb drive would have been at the time

[placid citrus]

acquired over time maychance

[tranquil wharf]

I mean if it's literally for data that you can easily redownload/reextract with minimal effort, I guess it's not that bad

[valid fiber]

well i have enough of them and have to use them for something

[rigid fjord]

raid 10/50/60 them

[placid citrus]

lmao did you rob somewhere

[lapis talon]

Weird order but ok

[snow mauve]

i just want some 4TB sas ssd for under $100 per is that asking too much 😄

[rigid fjord]

seriously, use a nested raid setup

[valid fiber]

jbod is great too

[rigid fjord]

only good for combining mixed drive sizes

[lapis talon]

Lend me 1tb for my games

[rigid fjord]

i.e. 160+ 320+500+750gb into a single drive doing nearly 2tb

[valid fiber]

the 4 drives that is installed internal are the raid
the rest is just jbod via usb-c

[snow mauve]

lol wow

[valid fiber]

whatever works

[snow mauve]

just get a power edge with 24 bays 😄

[jovial swan]

Ok i need to get a new case and PSU, to pave way for some stuff.
Is this a good combo?
In future i will get 9700X3D and 5070

[tranquil wharf]

I guess you've got everything that matters stored in a more stable way, so I suppose that's fine

[rigid fjord]

@lapis talonthis is why JBOD is jank as fuck

[rigid fjord]

case is a solid pic, psu totally fine

[distant frigate]

https://x.com/225mph_ef4/status/2042617148816711925?s=46

JohnsonWx (@225MPH_EF4)

YouTube can genuinely go fuck itself

“I’m gonna raise our prices because…well, I feel like it”

X · Apr 10, 2026, 2:54 PM

$21 a month god damn

I will still buy YouTube premium though because having no ads on videos is so good

[jovial swan]

aight, ill purchase it on sunday, going to flea market tmrw.

[valid fiber]

the problem is i can't do raid for the drives connected via USB
i tried everything i could think of but nothing worked

[tranquil wharf]

my only issue with fractal north is that the PSU shroud is not removable, which made it a massive PITA to connect additional PSU cables later on

[placid citrus]

proshop mention giga W

[valid fiber]

eh adblock is doing that for free 🤷‍♂️

[distant frigate]

Lmao you can’t ad block on iOS

[placid citrus]

saw someone else say they got increased to 15.99 so are they doing dynamic pricing lol

[distant frigate]

Well atleast from what I know

[placid citrus]

or is it just region/currency but both were USD I thought

[devout scarab]

im so opsec that i made that i can access my selfhosted vpn only locally

[tranquil wharf]

not really, adblock just causes a loading spinner for a while to appear before the video plays

[jovial swan]

proshop best scandinavia store. komplett sucks

[rigid fjord]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nested_RAID_levels
@lapis talon if you want to delve into raid at any point

[valid fiber]

i gave up on youtube ob mobile devices

[placid citrus]

Komplett is alright in Norway at least, I do order from them but I'm not loyal to any one store, I buy where I get the best deal or service

Komplett gives me free shipping regardless of order price which is nice

gave me a 10% off voucher, too, so I used it to buy a 5090 lol

[distant frigate]

Also YouTube has been cracking down on ad blockers unfortunately

[valid fiber]

happens sometimes (and it's not adblock doing it but youtube)
but mostly works great. still better than ads

[jovial swan]

how big of a downgrade is the Ryzen 5 7600X3D as compared to the Ryzen 7 7700 (got that rn) in gaming

[rigid fjord]

raid 01 vs raid 10, essentially the same but different implementations of it

[placid citrus]

no benchmark comparisons out for your CPU/GPU combo?

[jovial swan]

damn, my budget is only 4k dkk rn for stuff., but i think i might just sell my whole pc. so i can buy a new one

[jovial swan]

no clue

[tranquil wharf]

it is adblock not really helping that much because the wait is gone if you have youtube premium. so the point, premium still saves you time, whereas adblock just makes the ad that you'd wait for invisible while you're still waiting anyway

[odd marsh]

are you planning on switching to a 7600x3d?

[placid citrus]

oof, but depends on what you're looking for tbh, if you have a 7700 surely you could get a 9800X3D?

[rigid fjord]

tbf, revanced is what you'd want for mobile/tv use

[jovial swan]

if its cheaper than a 9600X and faster because of 3D V cahce then yeah

[odd marsh]

imo it's not worth switching off of the 7700

[tranquil wharf]

I don't really watch youtube on anything but a PC (I use my TV through a PC too)

[jovial swan]

no i cannot, not without going over budget, if i sell my current desktop i have a budget of 13500 DKK

[valid fiber]

it really is. I'm using it daily and only maybe one in 20 videos has a delay

[placid citrus]

but if you have 4k DKK and a 7700 right now couldn't you get a 9800X3D as a drop in upgrade?

[lapis talon]

Had a sort of off topic question.

A relative went to a different country a few days ago with their family. A stranger at the airport had met up with them as they had booked stuff from the same travel agency.

My relative was traveling with his parents and they ended up sorting of "bonding" with that stranger (?) and this resulted in something crazy happening. The stranger asked my relatives to check his baggages in along with my relatives' by saying that the stranger himself was a relative and this would make the process faster. That stranger checked in 4 ENTIRE SUITCASES which totalled to around 75kg full of illegal stuff. Relative's parents are a bit on the older side so they didn't suspect anything when that stranger initially asked them for the favour (they didn't know what was in the suitcase either). Relatives landed at their destination and then were stopped by police. Those suitcases they checked in had NO labels, and so my relative was fined around $5000 USD.

What do y'all think?

[tranquil wharf]

I get it far more frequently. not every video but like half of them maybe

[lapis talon]

Holy message bomb

[placid citrus]

surely the 9850X3D or 9800X3D aren't more than 4k DKK??

[rigid fjord]

similar to how i have it there

[placid citrus]

I think I don't see the tech relevance tbh

[lapis talon]

Just asking here since I know more people here than the main chat

[placid citrus]

also sounds like a mule thing

idk they'd have to somehow prove their story?

[rigid fjord]

i forgot to link this also for raid reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS @lapis talon

[placid citrus]

I am very confused at the whole thing

[lapis talon]

Wot this

[lapis talon]

Yeah that's the bad part, they cant

[placid citrus]

your relative's parents need to be more skeptical

[jovial swan]

i have a half dead A-620 lol also the 9800X3D is 3.2K
i could get the 7800X3D for 2400 dkk but its sold out everywhere

[placid citrus]

how was the person supposed to collect their baggage?

[lapis talon]

This is what I heard from them so I don't know the whole thing

[lapis talon]

One of them is pretty sick iirc, so they were kind of caught off guard

[rigid fjord]

zfs, same as raid but slightly different, essentially raid z1 = raid 5 and raid z2 = raid 6 ifi i remember correctly

[lapis talon]

That's what I don't know yet

[placid citrus]

yeah but FOUR pieces of luggage at 75KG? Sheeeesh

[placid citrus]

that's the key in this whole thing as far as I can see at least

[lapis talon]

But apparently it happened at destination airport's baggage claim belt

[lapis talon]

😭

[tranquil wharf]

mirror drives are the best with zfs

[lapis talon]

My theory is that they were supposed to meet up at baggage claim

[placid citrus]

whole thing sounds absolutely absurd but only thing I can imagine to get them out of that fine is to catch the real guy

or the guy who picks up

sting operation at the airport 😂

[lapis talon]

Basically more simple?

[rigid fjord]

parity also tbh, which makes the like of raid 5+1/6+1 even better

[valid fiber]

i just do external backups. and create recovery data manually is i think it's usefull

[lapis talon]

The thing is, airport staff at my airport could've been bribed as well 🗿

[rigid fjord]

in a sense, yeah

[lapis talon]

No labels on the suitcases is nuts

[placid citrus]

to do what??

[lapis talon]

What about compatibility

[placid citrus]

Like i don't understand, if they were bribed surely it'd be to get the illegal stuff to the criminal

[lapis talon]

To allow the suitcases to even reach the plane

[lapis talon]

That's what I'm saying

How else could SEVENTY FIVE kilograms of shat go to a different COUNTRY on a passenger plane unnoticed

[lapis talon]

WLMOUSE?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[rigid fjord]

well many people use it, i believe several nas OS's have it

[lapis talon]

Same mouse 🫡

[jovial swan]

https://www.proshop.dk/Grafikkort/PowerColor-Radeon-RX-9060-XT-Reaper-16GB-GDDR6-RAM-Grafikkort/3371307

this a good card?

[sinful cobalt]

i have a huan im collecting in 2 days

[lapis talon]

Lmk how it feels irl

I was considering it but the shape threw me off

Wanted something small and beast x mini seemed perfect

[sinful cobalt]

i bought it for the design and wanting to try smth new

[lapis talon]

It's fun to use

[sinful cobalt]

so ig we’re ignoring what was behind the mouse xddd

[lapis talon]

I never used something this light

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/sparxie-honkai-starrail-honkai-sparkle-spank-gif-6638160262656647081

[lapis talon]

Bottom side? Yeah I was surprised

[tranquil wharf]

zfs is a filesystem. raidz is effectively raid handled entirely in software by the zfs filesystem drivers, meaning you don't need any special hardware and you can just move the drives to any other system and run zfs on there and it can read them just fine. this is contrast to hardware raid, which means it's managed by special hardware (raid controller) and you might need the exact same hardware to be able to access the data later, possibly leading to data loss if you can't procure another one of the same controller

[placid citrus]

Chat, Titan X Pascal or 1080ti (Both Founders edition but the Titan is BLACK, honestly I like the silver on the 1080ti more)

[lapis talon]

So basically more simple but risky

[sinful cobalt]

I wanted a 5070FE but atp I’d rather just wait out and grab a 6080FE via connections

[lapis talon]

It's kind of like, it's tied to your HWID

[placid citrus]

but also titan X does look kinda epic

[lapis talon]

How do people know gen get FE cards? Never saw a way to get it brand new

[south arrow]

Usually sighn up and they send an email or snag one on a best buy restock

[tranquil wharf]

probably just because they don't sell it in your area. FE cards are often released in much fewer regions than AIB cards

[lapis talon]

Sounds like a lotta work

[south arrow]

But ive never been selected from the email reg

Have to check it like every day mostly around thursdays

[sinful cobalt]

im probably gonna end up buying a scalped one here unless theres a miracle lmao

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-cute-gif-10287523737689143680

[lapis talon]

Yeah doubt it'd be sold in a South Asian country in the next hundred years at the very least 🥀

[lapis talon]

Speaking of scalped

The nitro+ 9070xt I bought jumped to $1150 USD

I got it for around 800

Perks of bugging the shopkeeper for 3 whole months

Got it before it any other consumer even knew about it in my country lol

Might also be why I lost silicone lottery though 🥀

[placid citrus]

no opinions on the epic 1000 series of GTX? 😭

[lapis talon]

Uhhh one looks shinier, other looks glossier

Wait what

I meant glassier

[placid citrus]

Honestly it seems like it's u to whichever seller wants to ship but I do hope the Titan X seller will ship

they just say in the listing they prefer pickup

I guess meetup is nice if they can demonstrate the card isn't shitting the bed idk

[high elm]

amos yee 67

wansuey

[sinful cobalt]

this guy was living rent free

[placid citrus]

surely he was working for his stay

[pliant snow]

PG34WCDN vs 341CQR which 5th gen qd-oled should i get?

[sinful cobalt]

the one that is cheaper or more appealing to you

[pliant snow]

price doesnt matter as much i was thinking the asus b/c it has full hbr20 for the dp

is one better then the other?

[sinful cobalt]

oh is the msi only dp1.4

[pliant snow]

db2.1a uhbr 13.5

[pure valve]

Chat I need to format a 1 TB Toshiba Hard drive to use on a PS4

I read I should use FAT32, but neither Windows nor MacOS offer such option

[pliant snow]

windows does not support fat32 on larger then 32gb by default to format so you need another program to format

[pure valve]

Know any good and free one you'd recommend?

[pliant snow]

shouild i get the asus?

[south arrow]

Guiformat

Dont click any of the ad spam
https://fat32format-gui.en.lo4d.com/download

Allows to format up to 2tb to fat32

[placid citrus]

I like the stand on the ASUS tbh

other than that I see such little difference

tbh kind of tempted to buy that asus one now lol

I've been wanting a new monitor for my new pc just haven't been able to settle on which monitor

looked at the G9 miniled 57" super ultrawide (aka 2x 32" 4k monitors stacked side by side basically)

still tempted by it tbh lol

[pliant snow]

my plan is to also get the lg 39 5k2k then have the 34 on top

and when i go to school next year i would just bring the 34 with me

[placid citrus]

but the 57" brooooo

it looks so GOOD, but so many reviews all over the place

some hate it some love it, some in the middle

[pliant snow]

will probably get the asus

i can backorder that on newegg

[placid citrus]

video reviews seemed alright though, but even if I spent like 3500 on the GPU it feels hard to spend 2600 on a monitor lol

[pliant snow]

msi is just sold out but its also $400 cheaper

[placid citrus]

MSI one was 400 more where I found it lol

well where I live, Norway

[pliant snow]

on newegg msi is 950 usd and asus is 1300

[placid citrus]

damn, here the MSI was 1600 or something and asus 1300

or 1700 and 1400 or something

[pliant snow]

i will probs get the asus

have rog motherboard and gpu

[gaunt spade]

goofball mouse

[placid citrus]

for comparison on the 34" 21x9 vs 57" 32x9

that G9 is a BEAST

[placid citrus]

matching is very satisfying

[iron glen]

i don't get the point of matching pc components by brands or smth

[placid citrus]

satisfaction

[iron glen]

like color yeah i get it, its the first thing you see

[placid citrus]

but other than that idc about matching

[pure valve]

I'll give it a try. Thanks!

[south arrow]

Just be sure to select the correct drive, you got this

[rough salmon]

oh boy apparenty we get gta 6 on pc in feb 2027

[placid citrus]

I don't really intentionally match brands as I shop for what seems like good value or quality and often that perception aligns on the same brand

but my laptop is ASUS and phone is samsung

[cold skiff]

Good one

[placid citrus]

Though admittedly I have a lot of samsung stuff

[placid citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-gonna-fall-for-it-deputy-trudy-wiegel-reno911-s2e07-i-wont-believe-that-gif-23582457

[cold skiff]

You think GTA is actually gonna be released in November? After firing 20% of the work force during the last delay to delay it even further? Rockstar on crack making people believe it’s a 2026 release

And may I add, fired them for wanting to unionise after working 80 hour weeks…

[rough salmon]

theyre too scared to announce another delay cuz they know everyone gonna be pissed

look at the hi everyone

[cold skiff]

They really don’t care

[pliant snow]

less rgb software

[cold skiff]

They know people will buy their game regardless

[south arrow]

Probs more so releasing with ps6 as a bundle

[cold skiff]

They’re firing people against the law for wanting better rights. So rockstar really couldn’t give a fuck about anything but getting it right to keep reputation and maintain sales

[tall sandal]

Intel core ultra 270k plus

[placid citrus]

I really hope it isn't gonna be this way but I definitely expect GTA6 to be overhyped

[tall sandal]

So I’ve seen preformance is insane, cinebench r23 scores are wild, beats i9 19400k and has better gaming performance

[cold skiff]

GTA has been over hyped for years

Why would it change now

[tall sandal]

Crazy stuff, man Intel really cooked here

[cold skiff]

I wish I had a 19400k tbfh

[grizzled frost]

you got that unreleased intel 19th gen?

[cold skiff]

Would probably play GTA6 when it’s released

[tall sandal]

19400k wth

You mean 14900K, that’s got all that voltage issues

[grizzled frost]

They're largely fixed i believe

[cold skiff]

No I mean 19400k, like you said

[cold skiff]

I mean if it was AMD that had that problem. Everyone would say never buy AMD ever again 🤷🏼‍♂️

[tall sandal]

Just to understand, which CPUs have lower rates of defect at stock not related to wear?

[empty quartz]

Not the amd shills

[tall sandal]

It’s probably rare, but it’s something that like we need to look for actively to reveal before declaring a pc stable, I know Jays2cents does lots of stress tests

[grizzled frost]

anything that isn't 13th and 14th gen

[tall sandal]

Prob, but those are wear and tear?

I don’t think it was a defect, it happened over time

[grizzled frost]

DOA CPUs are extremely rare outside of physical damage

[tall sandal]

Nah not DOA, I mean a fundamental issue with the CPU, an unstable cpu that works. I’ve always wondered this

I wanna expand my pc knowledge

That for example it’s the sole reason of an unstable system which usually is caused by other factors.

[grizzled frost]

Every CPU has some sort of defect somewhere in the silicon

That's why binning exists

[tall sandal]

when I say defect I mean a fundamental issue, like a cpu that’s haunted. A pc that behaves abnormally. For example things I’ve seen and heard are like freezing up, blue screen, black screens

Things like this. I have had black screens in quite a few laptops previously I’ve owned for example, but they were occasional. Like I remember the device froze up and black screen needed a hard reset

[snow cedar]

this is usually software tied, or bios tied
hardware errors are pretty rare
gpus dying is much more common than a cpu dying
I've rarely seen any chip die unless pushed too hard

eg pushing an old i5 chip to run cyberpunk would probably stress it too much and can cause damage due to heating cycles

in the same way, pushing an i7

• more threads to distribute workload
• low overloaded.bottlenecks
• lower temps (avg)

but on newer chips, none of this really matters anymore.
all of them are very powerful

[tall sandal]

Yea I mean I thought this too, usually rare for hardware to cause such issues, for the CPU

[tall sandal]

Why would a newer i7 have lower temps, old i5 will run at a lower wattage

Like what would happen if you overuse and abuse an older i5 running cyberpunk for example frequently even with very good cooling, and there was say excellent thermals.

[woeful leaf]

barely used hp pavilion x360 14 inch 2in1 i5-1335u 16/512 for 1350pln (370usd) is a good deal right

[snow cedar]

good cooling, good psu, good motherboard,
nothing at all
all safe

the only possibility would be an issue with the cpu itself, either manufacturing defects and so on

[cold skiff]

Ali. They used to make CPUs by hand.

Don’t worry about defect rates in 2026

[snow cedar]

when bro
pre 2010? lol

since 2011 all are machine made

[tall sandal]

Yea I mean I wonder is true manufacturing defect rare?

[cold skiff]

Which is why you don’t need to worry

[snow cedar]

yes usually

[tall sandal]

That a haunted feeling Pc for example people have had, it’s only due to CPU

[cold skiff]

I think 2011 is a little late also

[tall sandal]

and nothing else, but it’s not a dead chip just there is fundamental defect, things like this.

[snow cedar]

true
but 2011 is when we started having very stable chipsets
especially due to asml's fabs

[tall sandal]

Cuz pc builders always love doing stress tests

For hours on end, maybe 24 hours. They do it very aggressively

They are trying to reveal any issues. So that’s why I ask

[snow cedar]

24 hrs
no way

also stressing a computer continously does not reveal defects

[cold skiff]

IIRC it was like 2002-2004 the switch was made. AMD might have even went a little later as global foundries wasn’t used until 2009

[snow cedar]

multiple cycles of cooling and heating cycles yes, this can reveal defects very reliably

[woeful leaf]

is it a 2in1

i need a 2in1

[tall sandal]

Yea some do that, or at least a few hours. I’ve heard

[gaunt spade]

bruzz

look at this cool ass projector

[distant frigate]

https://fixupx.com/techdroider/status/2042526496313454829?s=46

TechDroider (@techdroider)

Honor has no honour left

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LOL

[gaunt spade]

honor and xiaomi

atleast its not honor 17

[flat cliff]

What's the odds a random brand off Amazon for a battery bank is actually gonna be the capacity it says it is, not the good kinda battery banks from like ugreen or anker like the random company ones?

[gaunt spade]

what games can i run on integrated

[north hill]

should i get a 2080-Ti or 3070?

both are around the same price used

[gaunt spade]

i would go for 3070 but price and models depend

[snow cedar]

*and usage, incase its been used for some serious gaming or crypto mining in the past, avoid it

[carmine yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjEMcPKIDM
"The LTT Cables do what they say on the tin."

[snow cedar]

bro wt blurred captions background?
lemme guess, apple stuff

[north hill]

FE seems to be the cheapest

[gaunt spade]

3070 fe?

[north hill]

yeah

[gaunt spade]

damn

[north hill]

2080-Ti blower cards are the cheapest

[gaunt spade]

blower big nono

what are the prices

also 3070 fe has the crappy connector

[north hill]

2080-Ti is $240 to $300 for the blower

3070 FE is about the same

[gaunt spade]

300$ is like 3080 price

what cpu do u have

[north hill]

it'll be an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

32gb DDR4

[gaunt spade]

rich bomboclut

[north hill]

so false

[gaunt spade]

5900x and 32gb ram talking

[placid citrus]

valid for a home nas if I need some more sata connections?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011798479750.html

I can't see why not personally but idk this stuff very well

[gaunt spade]

i saw it for a milisecond and then

[placid citrus]

weird lol

"Precisionn RTL9100 Chip PCI-E To 6 Ports SATA 3.0 6 Gbps Expansion Card PCI-E Adapter Card For Win8/10/11 4X" full name on aliexpress lol

[gaunt spade]

idk anything about nasa and space i cant help sorry

[placid citrus]

lol what

[gaunt spade]

i just game i dont store

[deep musk]

Guess who’s done? I made sure it’s correctly pined while the psu was off by probing

Ill need some extensions tho

[distant frigate]

RISD museum WiFi. Not bad!

Access point

[north hill]

so like... 2080-Ti or 3070?

i see no real performance difference

but the 2080-Ti has more VRAM

an entire GTX 1050M more of VRAM

[gaunt spade]

i guess bro

[gaunt spade]

no blower cards

[north hill]

they're not that bad

i can cool one properly, so i see no issue with it

[craggy cove]

the problem is noise

i thought i could stand it, i sold that shit the next week

[north hill]

nothing can beat my laptop

it IS the loudest machine

[craggy cove]

i was also a gaming laptop user!

[north hill]

i also don't even mind the noise

[craggy cove]

and an acer nitro

[craggy cove]

the problem is it even idles loudly

the frequency is really annoying

[north hill]

as long as it doesn't get too hot, then i'm fine with it

[craggy cove]

ehhh sure but i really recommend getting a regular one, they usually arent much more either

[north hill]

fan 2080-Tis are like $40 more

[craggy cove]

get 3070 idk

[north hill]

melty

[craggy cove]

or 6700xt

[craggy cove]

how

[north hill]

wasn't the 3070 the one with the melty power connector?

or just 30-Series in general

[hexed tapir]

Dont go amd unless it current gen for fsr4

[craggy cove]

bought a 7700xt today :o

[north hill]

this will probably be what i get if i don't get a 3070

[craggy cove]

sort of a 4090/ 5080/5090 exclusive problem

[north hill]

looks pretty nice

has a vapor chamber lol

[hexed tapir]

Now you have a stinky upscaling

[craggy cove]

i will definitely need that for cs2

then again amd scales pretty badly in cs2 and has weird problems

[north hill]

CS2 is NOT that hard to run

my shitass 1050M can run it pretty well

[rigid fjord]

what chip is it using?

[placid citrus]

couldn't tell, found another

JMB582 + JMB575

[craggy cove]

well its not hard to run but its hard to run well

200 fps in cs2 feels like 60 in cyberpunk ngl

[placid citrus]

still harder to run than CSGO

[craggy cove]

the 0.1% suck

[placid citrus]

I didn't play CS2 much because it just felt bad to run

I guess like http says it was because of the 0.1% making it feel bad

even if avg FPS was fine

[rigid fjord]

skip this one

[placid citrus]

Oh?

[rigid fjord]

the initial chip only handles 2x sata from the get go

[placid citrus]

ASM1064 ?

[rigid fjord]

look for ones with a marvell or asmedia chip instead

[placid citrus]

it's only a 4port expansion card with the ASM1064

[rigid fjord]

yeah but the chip itself does 4x sata at full sata 3 speeds

[placid citrus]

good to know

[rigid fjord]

google, it does wonders when used right

[placid citrus]

really does, brain all fried from medication right now

but I am learning a little I think, mostly ASMedia good

[rigid fjord]

yeah they have some good chips, marvel has a couple also good ones, which work great for raid use

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K2VGN9M i'm using this in my main pc to give me extra sata drives, the marvel chip on it is fine for software based raid, which in the case of a nas is really good

4-6 port would be your limit for a pcie x1 expansion card, though above 4 port many of them may not work well for raid use unless you go for an lsi hba card

[hexed tapir]

Nah man bing it

[rigid fjord]

well the posh lot just 'ask jeeves' as it is

[hexed tapir]

Boomer saying

[gaunt spade]

noooo blower

[north hill]

the cooling on the case should be pretty damn good

[hexed tapir]

Blower are loud

[gaunt spade]

blower kill itself

[north hill]

the card is basically another output fan

[gaunt spade]

only if ur ok with super loud noise and hot gpu

[craggy cove]

yeah it doesnt help

[north hill]

so 3070 FE?

[craggy cove]

if at a reasonable price, yes

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[north hill]

i can probably get one for like $240 + tax

[craggy cove]

tax?

[north hill]

yes, tax

Ebay does that

[craggy cove]

i thought the seller had to pay that :o

[north hill]

the buyer does????

[craggy cove]

idk never used it before, never had to

[north hill]

seller can pay shipping tax, but the buyer pays the government tax

[craggy cove]

when i try to buy its just this

[craggy cove]

its a used item why would there be tax

[north hill]

dude, i don't know

[craggy cove]

funky

[rigid fjord]

depends on country, sometimes it's directly in the price, others it has to be added on

[craggy cove]

i mean id just buy from marketplace then

even tho its a cesspool

[rigid fjord]

even that can have the same issues depending on location

[ivory mountain]

Shouldve thrown multiple instead of one

[craggy cove]

modern day "political activists" really cant plan ahead smh

[deep musk]

6 is the max for pcie x1

(At least for pcie3)

[flat cliff]

I bought the dbrand touch grass skin and case for my phone because I wanted da memes and for the pixel 9 pro fold UNFORTUNATELY you can't just buy the skin alone, its bulky as hell like so much and not even magsafe, is there skin options from not them or even just a way to add magsafe easily? I LOVED it in third party cases when I had my pixel 7 case.

[rigid fjord]

which i stated earlier, it's basically the max for pcie x1 no matter the gen, for more than that you'd want pcie x2 or better

[deep musk]

even for gen5?

[rigid fjord]

even for gen 5 you'd be limited there

[deep musk]

damn

[elfin solstice]

Guys i need help ASAP

[grizzled frost]

Maybe, just maybe, you should tell us what you need help with instead of just asking for generic "help"

[hexed tapir]

Call 911

[frigid zenith]

Ongod

[elfin solstice]

It’s that i’m getting a mid range build as a first ever pc but the psu can fry the motherboard and i can’t upgrade it any day soon

[rigid fjord]

ask for a doctor,

[frigid zenith]

Huh?

Also lads whats the take on chrome vs firefox vs safari for a macbook

I've been using firefox for the longest time and its the browser I use on my windows machine too but I will shortly be in a position where longer battery life is going to be super helpful. I'm considering potentially also starting to use safari especially for video streaming and meet calls

Also is it even worth switching given that firefox is non chromium?

Plus I'd miss not having Ublock origin

Also I dont reckon I'd switch over fully becaue frankly firefox just works for me + has fantastic extension support

[snow mauve]

i fried a lot of psu when i deployed to europe in early 2000s lol. stock were 110 and were in 220

or wahtever eu is

[obtuse yew]

Does anyone know how to remove the shitty gigabyte m.2 clips

I cannot figure out how the latching mechanism works, same with the actual clips that hold it onto the board

[hexed tapir]

Look at the manual

[obtuse yew]

Holy god

They just take an uncomfortable amount of force

[wispy thunder]

RTFM and pull

It's a stupid people proof design that causes issues for stupid people

Gigabyte somehow does it again

[hexed tapir]

Like bear proof trash cans

[wispy thunder]

They got like 3 or 4 types of nvme locks

And often mix 2 or 3 on the same motherboard like WHY

[wispy thunder]

Dumb as bears ig

[hidden frigate]

My friend is looking at getting a gaming PC, but he only has around 400 USD which really isn't a lot, but he found a PC with a 1050-TI for around 400 bucks. Idk why they bundle in some shitty monitor with it, but is this a somewhat decent deal or it it not even worth considering for 430 USD? I don't know the american market very well, so I'm not sure what things cost over there. https://a.co/d/08BXxGb7

He's just lookin to play GTA and american truck simulator mainly, and looking at benchmarks, it seems like GTA runs pretty well.

[obtuse yew]

That is the first part of my troubles done with

[hexed tapir]

A reskined dell optiplex

[obtuse yew]

Now how do I get these off? The other clips on the heatsinks could be pushed through with a screwdriver but these won't even budge if I try to force the clip closed

[hidden frigate]

Yeah i've noticed a lot of those going around, but are the specs that bad for the price?

I honestly don't know what you can get for only 400-450 USD these days

[obtuse yew]

I still wouldn't, not for a PC that is literally unupgradable by design

[hexed tapir]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011559973277.html

[obtuse yew]

That is already done

I already knew that

[hidden frigate]

Oh dayum

[craggy cove]

loses to a child like a boss

anyway wtf is cs2 scaling

[hidden frigate]

Looking at some benchmarks and it's sad that GTA performs so much worse than the 1050-TI

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jR3V6B or

[hidden frigate]

but other than that, it seems nice

Sadly building a PC is out of the question-

[hidden frigate]

so you'd pick this mini PC over the 1050-ti dell optiplex any day of the week?

[dim storm]

Need help for my niece, budget is $1,400 no micro center here

It’s for gaming

[craggy cove]

#1106613567966429224

[hexed tapir]

The dell doesn't officially support windows 11, so if you like being tech support for friends you can get it

[hidden frigate]

ahh good point

[craggy cove]

i mean past the install does it matter

tho i wouldnt get that anyway

[hidden frigate]

how trustworthy is Aliexpress these days?

[bitter skiff]

Hey do yall recommend this? https://a.co/d/02Fzdotf I need one for gaming like amercsin truck sim. GTA 5 with mods and stuff I wanna be able to play with controller and I wanna be able to get my games from Xbox onto my computer

[frigid zenith]

I reckon at that price point you should be able to snag a build with a 1650 easily

That should offer like 20% better performance I believe?

Plus also be a lot better on compatibility

[frigid zenith]

Hell if hes a bit savy he could get a 1660 or a 2060 at that price range too

[bitter skiff]

I’m the one looking for it

If you got a link mainly trying to buy off Amazon and stuff like that. I know someone mentioned the mini PC. I’m just trying to mainly get it for like games like GTA V with mods or American truck Sim with mods and big games like that you know.

[frigid zenith]

Thats a zen3 laptop chip so I dont really know how much mileage it would give yu

[bitter skiff]

Oh. Do you have any good ideas for one?? Trying to really spend under $435 USD. Just cause I don’t want to go to crazy on one

[frigid zenith]

Fair enough, does that number have to include tax and the peripherals or just the PC

Because monitors and mice and all cost too

[bitter skiff]

Just the PC

[frigid zenith]

Ah good shit

[bitter skiff]

I mean if I can find a good PC monitor and stuff with to be that close that’ll be awesome but if I can only find the PC that’s OK

[frigid zenith]

What games do you want to play?

[bitter skiff]

So any help would mean the world just trying to play huge games with mods. That the Xbox can’t do

[bitter skiff]

GTA 5 with like the LSPDFR mod an AMERICAN truck sim with mods. Phas Minecraft madden and stuff.

I want to be able to also play with my controller so I can answer my controller on the PC and be able to get my Xbox games onto the PC

[frigid zenith]

Ah gotcha

Seems like its more important to have a good CPU in that case than a GPU

[hexed tapir]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/397235053657 https://www.ebay.com/itm/276329017403 for under $400 just need a second bigger ssd

[frigid zenith]

Ideal scenario would be 16 gigs of memory, a 8th gen+ CPU preferably i5 or i7 and a 1650+

[bitter skiff]

I’m not gonna like I don’t even know how to type that into eBay to find one LMAO. You able to help me out with that

[frigid zenith]

Oh yeah this is fully a great deal

[bitter skiff]

Hey, so this PC would be for me do you think this PC would be able to hold games like GTA V would like the LS PDF R mod Phas American trucks and games like that

[hexed tapir]

Rtx 4000 is rtx 2070 ish performance

For sure

[peak swan]

Holy bad naming

[frigid zenith]

Genuine question, Quadro or a 1660super?

[frigid zenith]

Oh shit thats pretty solid

I'm out of touch on the quadros

[hexed tapir]

Quaro is way better

[bitter skiff]

Alright I’m gonna trust you. Hope I can trust you.

[frigid zenith]

Yeah just that the 1660 super can be had for like 110 bucks

[hexed tapir]

Quadro even has USB c if you want to do vr

[bitter skiff]

Do y’all know if I can like use my Xbox controller on it if I can put my Xbox games on it and stuff like that

[hexed tapir]

But no raytracing support and new games like Indiana Jones requires it the game won't launch without it

[frigid zenith]

Ag fair enough

Also wonder if somethign like this would be more worth it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/257442914591?_skw=2060&epid=22084378655&itmmeta=01KNWQHZX5MTQ86Y013JA5PT46&hash=item3bf0cb211f:g:K-0AAeSwmeRp0Vwk&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAAwGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDETUWJ%2FGdSjgz6zfLZz0UeNW2srdhBfznNQ%2BXBkejKIgE3ujk2uMAm1dFmy5VzhXXuX4mgpUlLPuWBJjJduncXrb2s9TiF%2Fci0uAGZCpWmo2Oi0ZBpJ9m4pWrUhZudr7umDDTVelifefJZlG6J03Rkqi52FbU9ET6H4xUMI5V5qURPTw8%2B35ZUTu4VEn3xhIf1xqZ6PD9awb%2F5RrmGv%2BS%2FcAFzMpjQo2PN%2BP5EiAW1YA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_r-x5evZw

its 2 quadros for 200 bucks. Perhaps there might be resale potential?

[bitter skiff]

All right, I’m about to press bye. I just want to confirm that I can use my Xbox controller on it. I can put my Xbox games on it and it can run big games like GTA with mods steam all that.

[hexed tapir]

Yup

For wired

[bitter skiff]

Wait

[frigid zenith]

Hold up, xbox games on it?

[bitter skiff]

I don’t know how to insert that card into the PC

[frigid zenith]

Dont you need a separate license?

Or is that no longer a thing in todays date

[hexed tapir]

Oh you can't use your current Xbox library on steam/pc

[frigid zenith]

You will have to buy the games again

[bitter skiff]

Damn

[frigid zenith]

/buy gamepass which should work on both

Also Coopa, Why not go for a 2060 super, its probably better for gaming and similarly priced

[left dove]

actually stupid logic lmao

"its a different platform and different code you gotta buy it again"

[ivory mountain]

only game ive bought more than once is minecraft and skyrim

[frigid zenith]

Man I'm not gonna lie I've forgot everything I knew about GPUs pre 3000 series

[ivory mountain]

"you bought our game on xbox but lets lock away your license when its available on pc in our same store app!!!"

[hexed tapir]

Needs PSU power, the fell optiplex doesn't have a extra power connector I'm pretty sure, the quaro just needs the slot power no added connector

[frigid zenith]

Hard agree

[frigid zenith]

Solid thinking, I wouldnt have caught that

[frigid zenith]

Same for minecraft. Had it on the Playstation back when and just bought Java recently

[ivory mountain]

minecraft is valid tho cuz its only like 20 dollars

and well, its minecraft

[frigid zenith]

30 now rip

[hexed tapir]

Wait I lie it needs a 8pin

You need to buy a sata to 8pin power adapter for the gpu @bitter skiff

[left dove]

FUCKING DO NOT

NO.]

NEVER suggest those

[serene python]

i need to bring out the meme pc pic

[grizzled frost]

🎶 “We didn’t start the fire! it was always burning since the world’s been turning”🎶

[bitter skiff]

So definitely don’t get those

[grizzled frost]

If you can’t tell, it is an absolutely horrible idea

unless you’re an arsonist

[bitter skiff]

I’m not good with PCS I have always been a console type guy. Just now wanting to get a PC for better games

[bitter skiff]

https://a.co/d/0aTCol4w this is my last kinda thing I’m gonna look at what do y’all think about this PC

For big games that I have talked about

[grizzled frost]

Borderline ewaste

[serene python]

i have no idea how ts worked

[hexed tapir]

It only needs to do 60-80*watts card tdp is 160 pcie slot can do 75

[south arrow]

I mean i dont knowww, maybee

[serene python]

what do you think about this chat?

[south arrow]

Google said over 54w on sata is mehhh

8 pins are cheap, fire damage is not

But would probs work just more towards its limit

[south arrow]

Does it do what you need it to?

[serene python]

well it did

[south arrow]

_>

[serene python]

i just didnt know how it didnt catch fire

[south arrow]

Well then probs was a fine pc, all things considered looks like it did its best